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Log from 2009-01-15:
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00:00 <PinkTomato> (which isn't where you want hacky code, i know that :))
00:01 <BabyBug> lol
00:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, do you ever use classes? lol
00:04  * epsy understands building a class instance every 2ms is not the first thing a php programmer will think about
00:04 <PinkTomato> I should figure out how to use them :). I hope its not too bad... at least it uses includes...
00:08 <BabyBug> why split the pages up, like addsetting.php and addsetting2.php? wouldn't it be easier to have them as one?
00:10 <PinkTomato> Should I do if(isset($_POST)) then?
00:10 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure on the cleanest way to do that
00:10 <PinkTomato> ah It would be a $_GET['step'] I guess?
00:10 <epsy> check for what vars the form fills
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00:11 <epsy> *cough* abuse mod_rewrite all you want *cough*
00:12 <PinkTomato> I haven't used that before
00:12 <PinkTomato> I'm aware of it though
00:14 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
00:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, why do you have 2 files to under a mysql user and pass in?
00:18 <BabyBug> in the root dir, and www dir?
00:18 <BabyBug> oh wait
00:18 <BabyBug> ignore me
00:18 <BabyBug> blonde moment
00:21 <PinkTomato> :)
00:24 <BabyBug> although i love how you have a class (sort of) for one and not the other xD
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00:24 <PinkTomato> I should note I didn't write the class in the / directory :)
00:25 <BabyBug> lol ^^
00:26 <BabyBug> might want to make a simple templating system for the www directory, rather than mixing PHP and HTML code (if you hadn't already thought of that)
00:26 <PinkTomato> I didn't think of that :)
00:27 <PinkTomato> the book I learnt PHP from was very old.
00:27 <BabyBug> lol ^^
00:27 <PinkTomato> it annyoyed me when $_SESSION didn't work.
00:28 <PinkTomato> or it was a significant change along those lines
00:28 <BabyBug> lol
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00:39 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Pure-wrath-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
00:41 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
00:43 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Halls-of-Death-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
00:44 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Kingdom-Blood-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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00:47 <Durka_> PinkTomato: \o
00:47 <PinkTomato> Durka_: \o
00:48 <Durka_> so i think im gonna buy it
00:49 <Durka_> do u have time to help me possibly?
00:49 <Durka_> :O
00:49 <PinkTomato> oo,  not really though, early day tomorrow
00:50 <Durka_> how early?
00:50 <Durka_> what time gmt?
00:50 <PinkTomato> its 12 atm, not too early, probably 8am maybe.
00:51 <PinkTomato> Won't you have to wait for it to process though:?
00:51 <Durka_> it says 10 min
00:51 <Durka_> :O
00:52 <PinkTomato> that's fast!
00:54 <ct|kyle> o0 what's Durka_ going to purchase
00:54 <PinkTomato> One of those VPS things
00:54 <ct|kyle> one like smoothice got?
00:54 <PinkTomato> same company yeah :)
00:56 <Durka_> i read the wiki tho
00:56 <Durka_> i think i understand it
00:57 <PinkTomato> You can do all the file organising in SFTP
00:57 <Durka_> yea i have a program i can do that with
00:57 <Durka_> i just gotta figure out this SSH stuff
00:57 <Durka_> luke jr was tryin to walk me thru it
00:57 <Durka_> but i couldnt understand him
00:57 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: talked about keys?
00:58 <Durka_> no
00:58 <Durka_> he basically said
00:58 <Durka_> RTFM!
00:58 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
00:58 <PinkTomato> Yeah, it is not too hard
00:59 <PinkTomato> just ssh [username]@[host]
00:59 <PinkTomato> will prompt for password
00:59 <PinkTomato> and your done
00:59 <ct|kyle> RTFMP
00:59 <ct|kyle> Read The F****** Man page
01:00 <PinkTomato> xD
01:00 <luke-jr> …
01:00 <PinkTomato> Hi luke-jr :)
01:02 <ct|kyle> I'll probably get one of those VPS's someday, I want CTWF US :)
01:03 <PinkTomato> They are really cheap Oo
01:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
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01:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that's too much :P
01:04 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Halls-of-Death-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
01:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: and i want to manage my own scripts an stuff
01:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what's too much?
01:04 <luke-jr> and you CAN manage your own scripts
01:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: your price
01:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: cheapest on the market afaik
01:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I know but I also like updated binaries
01:06 <luke-jr> and?
01:06 <ct|kyle> I want a place i can test new code
01:07 <luke-jr> so work with me on a bandwidth-based plan ;p
01:08 <PinkTomato> is Durka_ still there?
01:08 <luke-jr> e_n_d_e_r: poke
01:08 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: Durka_ is never here for more than 5 minutes
01:09 <Durka_> im here :x
01:13 <PinkTomato> Durka_: So are you purchasing a server?
01:17 <luke-jr> should get a server from meeee
01:17 <Durka_> yea
01:17 <Durka_> not from luke :p
01:17 <BabyBug> luke-jr, if i come up with a decent bandwidth billing plan do i get a free server? :D
01:18 <luke-jr> Durka_: should be from me :/
01:18 <luke-jr> my servers r best
01:19 <BabyBug> i'll take that as a nooo then...
01:20 <luke-jr> BabyBug: first GB free ;p
01:20 <BabyBug> hrmm..OK!
01:21 <BabyBug> It's gonna take a while to use a GB surely :D
01:21 <PinkTomato> what does a GB get?
01:21 <PinkTomato> I'm not too sure BabyBug
01:21 <BabyBug> a GB of traffic just from a tron server
01:21 <PinkTomato> Um...
01:21 <BabyBug> surely it must take ages to use that much..
01:21 <PinkTomato> More like 30GB
01:22 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, what are you on about? =P
01:22 <PinkTomato> That's what Hyper.Vm say I used last month Oo, not that I believe it.
01:22 <BabyBug> luke-jr, didn't you get some server usage stats?
01:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: yeah
01:26 <BabyBug> got them to hand? :P
01:28 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
01:28 <nsh22> hey hey hey
01:28 <PinkTomato> hi nsh22
01:29 <nsh22> hey pink
01:29 <BabyBug> ct|kyle! someone to scare!
01:29 <BabyBug> :D
01:32 <nsh22> u also tend to ick him when he trues to cuddle you lol
01:32 <nsh22> kcik8
01:32 <nsh22> kick**
01:33 <BabyBug> well duh! he's trying to cuddle me!
01:33 <BabyBug> he has no right to
01:33 <luke-jr>  279 MB	= 8-slot
01:33 <luke-jr>  202 MB	= 4-slot for 3 weeks + 26-slot for 1 week
01:33 <luke-jr> 2038 MB	= 4-slot + 6-slot + 10-slot + 4-slot
01:33 <luke-jr>   70 MB	= 0-slot
01:33 <luke-jr>  548 MB	= 32-slot
01:34 <PinkTomato> hmmm... maybe I'm being DoS'ed and I don't know about it
01:34 <luke-jr> for the past month
01:34 <BabyBug> how does a 0 slot use 70mb?
01:34 <PinkTomato> Wrtlprnft's scripts etc
01:34 <luke-jr> BabyBug: server polling
01:34 <nsh22> what are those stats for?
01:35 <luke-jr> TALK_TO_MASTER
01:35 <nsh22> oic
01:35 <luke-jr> nsh22: btw, did you ever send the app? did I get back to you?
01:35 <luke-jr> >_<
01:35 <BabyBug> ok well first off, you should offer the first 100mb a month for free then
01:35 <ct|kyle> so sinewav's servers use 2 GB / month
01:35 <nsh22> i sent it via email after you pmed me to email it instead of pm
01:35 <luke-jr> BabyBug: cmon, you need to give me somethign non-obvious ;)
01:35 <luke-jr> I thoguht you meant a well thought out setup
01:35 <luke-jr> LOL
01:36 <luke-jr> nsh22: crap, I misplaced it?
01:36 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i will make make a well thought out setup =)
01:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: possibly, just tellme what info you need and ill re email it
01:36 <BabyBug> I was just talking aloud to myself there really
01:36 <PinkTomato> how much is 548 MB	= 32?
01:37 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ?
01:37 <luke-jr> 548 MB/mo is the demo server
01:37 <ct|kyle> how much RAM is used for each :P
01:37 <luke-jr> so it's kindof an anomoly
01:37 <BabyBug> just give me a weee bit of time though luke-jr :D
01:37  * nsh22 is wondering if he should post a link to his food site in the arma forums.....
01:37 <luke-jr> nsh22: what Sender name should I look for?
01:37  * nsh22 thinks no
01:37 <nsh22> nsh22
01:38 <luke-jr> u sent where? O.o
01:38 <nsh22> both to ur arma forum account and to you dashjr account
01:38 <PinkTomato> 32 Slot is £12.. hmmm... £2 150MB.
01:39 <nsh22> it was in my sentbox, but i looked one day and it was gone 0.o
01:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: nothing from 'nsh22' in email :/
01:40 <PinkTomato> That means sine server is £26 a month
01:40 <nsh22> oh, i found a sent pm with the stuff you want it
01:40 <nsh22> wanted*
01:40 <nsh22> the server request
01:40 <nsh22> where u want me to send it?
01:40 <luke-jr> luke_armairc@dashjr.org is fine
01:40 <nsh22> kk
01:41 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: basing this on an anomoly is a bad idea
01:42 <nsh22> kk i sent it
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01:44 <luke-jr> from?
01:44 <luke-jr> I have no new mail
01:45 <BabyBug> luke-jr, do you have statistics for individual servers? or do i have to try and calculate that =P
01:45 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that's them
01:46 <BabyBug> Hrmm..there's nothing indicating how often the servers get used either >< which could make things difficult :P
01:47 <BabyBug> in fact, from them statistics there's no way in hell you can reliably calculate the prices for a bandwidth plan ><
01:47 <luke-jr> lol
01:47 <nsh22> did u get it yet?
01:47 <BabyBug> you might as well of given me a leaf to work with
01:47 <BabyBug> lol
01:48 <PinkTomato> also depends on how much money luke-jr wants :)
01:48 <BabyBug> well, you can figure that out from his current price/slot
01:49 <BabyBug> Except when changing a pricing plan, it's tradition to make things more expensive, while making them seem cheaping =)
01:49 <BabyBug> cheaper*
01:49 <PinkTomato> price by byte then
01:50 <PinkTomato> wait, do MB, then you can go cheaper in the future
01:51 <BabyBug> luke-jr, if you're going to want a bandwidth based plan, you're going to need to be able to get bandwidth per server...so get them stats to me =P
01:53 <madmax> BabyBug: *have given
01:54 <BabyBug> madmax, what?
01:55 <madmax> some 76412 lines up, "you might as well of given" :-P
01:56 <BabyBug> madmax dear..
01:56 <BabyBug> shut up..lmao
01:57 <arrow> #tea
01:57 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:57 <madmax> I can't resist correcting the so called native speakers
01:57  * nsh22 wonders if luke jr got my email
01:57 <BabyBug> madmax, native?
01:59 <madmax> where are you from?
01:59  * ct|kyle kicks BabyBug
01:59 <BabyBug> missed!
01:59 <BabyBug> madmax, Wales
02:00 <PinkTomato> in the valleys
02:00 <PinkTomato> #night
02:00 <@armabot> Good night PinkTomato!
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02:01 <madmax> isn't english your first language then?
02:01 <BabyBug> madmax, newp
02:01 <madmax> welsh?
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02:02 <BabyBug> i only speak english on the internet and when i go to england (rarely) =P
02:02 <BabyBug> Aye Welsh =)
02:02 <nsh22> welshes grape juice?
02:02 <nsh22> lol
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02:02 <BabyBug> that's Welches dear...
02:02 <nsh22> oh ok
02:02 <nsh22> lol
02:03 <nsh22> close enough
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02:03 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: between 90% of our servers (not forums) CT uses 60 GByte
02:03 <nsh22> of bandwidth?
02:03 <ct|kyle> ya
02:03 <nsh22> holy sh!t
02:03 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I think I have a plan :D
02:03 <ct|kyle> that's everything but CTWF, dogfight and CT ladle 2
02:03 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, for all i know either yours or luke-jr's method of monitoring bandwidth is fucked up...So it's best to base the prices on lukes figures :P
02:04 <nsh22> appearently theres this elderly lady witha 40gb/second connection
02:04 <BabyBug> luke-jr, a plan?
02:04 <BabyBug> do i still get my free GB?
02:04 <madmax> speak some welsh!
02:05 <BabyBug> na (that was welsh for no)
02:05 <madmax> I have no idea of the differences heh. /me goes to wikipedia
02:05 <BabyBug> Ermm...quite alot of differences :P
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8821 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/Makefile.am resource/Makefile.am):
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Fixing build from tarball.
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Oops, \ -> /.
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Added new python stuff to EXTRA_DIST.
02:06 <nsh22> luke jr: did u get the email yet?
02:06 <BabyBug> madmax, dw i'n siarad Gymraeg iaith gyntaf (I speak welsh as my first language) That's not perfect welsh though, as we like to shorten things very much like English get's shortened into slang
02:06 <z-man> Oh crap, now that I read this, this should not have been merged at all :/
02:06 <luke-jr> nsh22: not sure yet
02:07 <nsh22> i think hotmail hates me
02:07 <z-man> Oh wait, no, wrong.
02:08 <madmax> gah, quite different indeed -_-
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02:08 <BabyBug> madmax, yes =P lol
02:08 <BabyBug> we also have a slightly weird alphabet =)
02:09 <BabyBug> "ch" <-- That's one letter in the alphabet for example...That's NOT two letters together..
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02:09 <madmax> yeah, I was looking at the wiki page, 'ff', wth!?
02:09 <nsh22> oops, pressed wrong X
02:10 <BabyBug> lol
02:10 <nsh22> what i miss?
02:10 <BabyBug> DD, FF, LL, PH, RH, TH
02:10 <BabyBug> all single letters :P
02:10 <BabyBug> NG aswell
02:11 <nsh22> ??
02:12 <BabyBug> nsh22, trick question: How many letters are in this word: Llanelli
02:12 <madmax> it's a trap!
02:12 <nsh22> 7?
02:12 <BabyBug> no..
02:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r785 Merging from 0.3.1:...
02:12 <BabyBug> how the hell did you get 7
02:13 <nsh22> iunno
02:13 <nsh22> guessed
02:13 <BabyBug> madmax, take a guess! :P
02:13 <BabyBug> although you could just count the letters...
02:14 <nsh22> 8?
02:14 <BabyBug> Wrong
02:14 <nsh22> 0?
02:14 <BabyBug> wrong ><
02:14  * madmax feels inclined to say 2
02:14 <BabyBug> ...
02:14 <BabyBug> 6!
02:14 <BabyBug> there's 6!
02:14 <madmax> ^^
02:14 <BabyBug> Ll, a, n, e, ll, i
02:14 <BabyBug> 6..
02:14 <nsh22> ah
02:14 <madmax> there could another weird rule that stitched all of those together
02:15 <BabyBug> lol
02:15 <BabyBug> There's no weird rule...
02:15 <BabyBug> So
02:15 <BabyBug> Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch <-- Count the letters in that one!
02:15 <nsh22> pi
02:15 <nsh22> count the didgits on that
02:15 <madmax> haha, is that a word?
02:16 <BabyBug> madmax, yes. It's the name of a village
02:16 <nsh22> wtf
02:16 <nsh22> how would u use that in a sentance ;)
02:16 <madmax> oh, I think I've seen a picture of a plate with that
02:16 <madmax> or at least something similar
02:16 <BabyBug> "I went to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"
02:16 <BabyBug> that's how you'd use it in a sentence
02:16 <BabyBug> lol
02:16 <BabyBug> you twit =P
02:16  * nsh22 hides
02:16 <madmax> here's one, Pneumoultramicroscopicossilicovulcanoconiótico
02:17 <nsh22> a bcteria
02:17 <nsh22> ?
02:17 <madmax> a person that has a particular pulmonar disease
02:17 <nsh22> 0o
02:18 <BabyBug> Well now that's just silly
02:18 <BabyBug> It least we shorten ours for every day use (Llanfair PG)
02:18 <madmax> related to vulcanic ashes (©wikipedia)
02:18 <BabyBug> at*
02:18 <nsh22> thought si
02:18 <nsh22> so*
02:18 <madmax> that one is the longest portuguese word :P
02:19  * madmax has serious doubts the people of that village know its name
02:19 <BabyBug> lmao
02:19 <BabyBug> it's not hard to pronounce once you know how =)
02:20 <madmax> well know you'll have to upload a recording pronouncing it
02:20 <BabyBug> i don't have a mic
02:20 <madmax> er, *now
02:20 <BabyBug> there's plenty of recordings on the internet anywhoo
02:20 <madmax> :-/
02:21 <BabyBug> or there was a couple of years ago
02:21 <BabyBug> lol
02:22 <madmax> there's on youtube I see
02:22 <nsh22> the longest name of a ciyt is for bankok
02:22 <madmax> well it takes pretty long nonetheless lol
02:23 <nsh22> lol
02:24 <BabyBug> all the videos on youtube are english numnuts pronouncing it wrong =P
02:24 <madmax> lol
02:24 <Lucifer> confucious say man who go sideways through turnstile going to bangkok
02:25 <nsh22> lol random quote
02:25 <nsh22> whats up lucifer?
02:25 <Lucifer> not much
02:25 <nsh22> lol
02:25 <Lucifer> well, this week's been a good week, mostly
02:25  * nsh22 is waiting to see if luke jr got the email
02:25 <nsh22> well thats good
02:25 <nsh22> whats so good about it?
02:25 <Lucifer> well, today I had a phone interview that went very well
02:25 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: except for your problems in the bed :P
02:26 <Lucifer> The guy invited me to go down to the office on Friday and meet everyone there
02:26 <nsh22> oh, with the recruiter?
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02:26 <madmax> hey, good luck with that ;)
02:26 <Lucifer> it's not quite an interview, so I'm thinking I've got the job, but I don't want to prematurely celebrate
02:26 <nsh22> ya
02:26 <nsh22> just dont sleep in till like 2 this time lol
02:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yeah, except for that
02:26 <luke-jr> nsh22: Server location Preference:
02:26 <Lucifer> still, first time with someone since the divorce is good, right?
02:26 <nsh22> conneticuit
02:27 <nsh22> lol u got a new girl?
02:27 <Lucifer> nsh22: I haven't yet been able to get a recruiter to talk straight to me
02:27 <nsh22> oh ok
02:27 <Lucifer> no, this was, ummm, just that once
02:27 <nsh22> lol 1 night stand
02:27 <Lucifer> as ct|kyle (hi there!) indicated, there won't be a second time with her, heh
02:27 <BabyBug> anyone, what song is being played at the beginning of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wohlwyxr3PI
02:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: Billing Address
02:27 <nsh22> coulda just said that
02:28 <nsh22> want me to just email it to you?
02:28 <nsh22> rather than putting it over the irc?
02:28 <luke-jr> shrug
02:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: an annoying song that i got a friend pissed off
02:28 <nsh22> did u get the last email?
02:28 <luke-jr> yes
02:28 <BabyBug> luke-jr, nsh22, why dont you two love birds just /query?
02:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no idea
02:29 <Lucifer> although, after hearing that lady pronounce the word, I'm still undecided if that makes welsh women sexier or less sexy
02:29 <BabyBug> it would probably help if the woman was sexy, no? lol
02:29 <madmax> BabyBug: it's a theme song from the muppets afaik
02:29 <madmax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPRB4XF74-Q
02:30 <BabyBug> ahhhhhhhhh
02:30 <BabyBug> ty!
02:30 <nsh22> ok, i got place, adress....
02:30 <nsh22> what eelse
02:30 <Lucifer> I thought that sounded like a muppet song
02:31 <nsh22> http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 funny song and vid (adultish themes)
02:31 <luke-jr> nsh22: version
02:31 <luke-jr> nsh22: you said 2.8, but 2.8 is like 10 years away
02:31 <BabyBug> 100*
02:31 <nsh22> is 0.2.8 better?
02:32 <luke-jr> :þ
02:32 <BabyBug> well lets work it out (i'm bored)...How many years has arma been in development?
02:32 <nsh22> ?
02:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: u don't want it to start today?
02:32 <nsh22> yes i do, im putting that in there as well
02:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: like 9 years
02:32 <madmax> BabyBug, odaf yn gynnar yfory, da bo chi!
02:32 <madmax> where do I get my degree now...
02:32 <nsh22> starting date: ASAP
02:33 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: will 2.8 have Ramps?
02:33 <luke-jr> :þ
02:33 <nsh22> what does that mean?
02:33 <BabyBug> madmax, did you use a translator for that?
02:33 <nsh22> lol 2.8 will be 4D probably
02:33 <luke-jr> …….
02:33 <madmax> nope :-P
02:33 <nsh22> :/
02:33 <BabyBug> i can't make any sense of it
02:33 <BabyBug> lol
02:34 <nsh22> any other info?
02:34 <madmax> :-O
02:34 <BabyBug> something about you cumming tomorrow?
02:34 <BabyBug> lol
02:34 <madmax> haha
02:34 <nsh22> lol
02:34 <Lucifer> that's fucked up
02:34 <nsh22> "
02:34 <Lucifer> after watching that video I jizzed in my pants
02:34 <nsh22> lol
02:34 <nsh22> haha
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02:34 <madmax> BabyBug: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language look under example sentences
02:35 <nsh22> its fucked, but i (being a 16y/o) find it hilariuos
02:35 <Lucifer> hey babybug, if you have a sexy voice with a sexy accent, we could use some sound samples...
02:35 <nsh22> i open a window and a breeze come in and i..
02:35 <madmax> she said she doesn't have a mic!
02:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no mic
02:35  * madmax tried
02:35 <Lucifer> oh
02:36 <Lucifer> probably for the better
02:36  * nsh22 is playing the song via teamspeak
02:36 <Lucifer> we wouldn't want our player base to jizz in their pants
02:36 <nsh22> haha
02:36 <madmax> haha
02:36 <BabyBug> madmax, i'm still confused what you meant.. lol
02:36 <madmax> did you check the page?
02:36 <nsh22> ""she asked" cash or credit" and i jizzed in my pants""
02:36 <BabyBug> yes
02:36 <BabyBug> lol
02:36 <nsh22> lol funny song
02:37 <Lucifer> well, the girl last night isn't scared off, but she's back in cali and wont' be back in austin for a couple of weeks
02:37 <nsh22> 1 more hing im gonna pay by cheque
02:37 <madmax> that was supposed to be something like "I'll get up early tomorrow, bye"
02:37 <nsh22> i just ate a grape and i ....
02:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8822 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs package from https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=266788
02:37 <BabyBug> madmax, that should be Codaf, not odaf >< and welsh for bye is 'hwyl'
02:38 <madmax> does welsh have a random syntax too? :P
02:38 <madmax> heh, I saw 'da bo chi' as an informal goodbye
02:38 <Lucifer> madmax: as I understand it, it's loosely based on C syntax
02:39 <BabyBug> informal way? :s
02:39 <nsh22> kk i sent another email, luke
02:40 <Lucifer> I thought welsh was a dead language
02:40 <luke-jr> I am winful.
02:40 <madmax> so I guess my main obstacle is the morphology?
02:40 <nsh22> ?
02:40 <BabyBug> madmax, that's more a preaching christian way of saying goodbye.. =P
02:40 <madmax> lol
02:40 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no it's not dead you ho
02:40 <madmax> I blame the Internets then, http://www.101languages.net/welsh/basics.html
02:40 <Lucifer> 'ho'
02:41 <Lucifer> you need the apostrophes, because it's really  just the word "whore" spoken with a particular accent
02:41 <nsh22> a garden hoe maybe?
02:41 <Lucifer> a backhoe?
02:41 <Lucifer> oooo
02:41 <Lucifer> a crackhoe!
02:41 <madmax> anyway, hwyl is quite messed up as it is
02:41 <nsh22> LAND HO!!!!!
02:41 <Lucifer> that made me jizz in my pants
02:41 <BabyBug> lmao madmax you're messed up :P
02:42 <nsh22> hahaha lucifer
02:42 <madmax> come on, only languages with vowels make some sense
02:42 <nsh22> i think your the only 1 who actually watche dthat
02:42 <BabyBug> we have vowels!
02:42 <Lucifer> y is a vowel
02:42 <BabyBug> we have more vowels than english does..
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: I probably am, heh
02:42 <nsh22> haha
02:42 <nsh22> i know some1 hwho can recite this by heart
02:42 <Lucifer> well, I think I'm a go cook dinner and then jizz in my pants
02:42 <nsh22> lol
02:43 <madmax> erm, a vowel in english?
02:43 <nsh22> you have fun with taht
02:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how did you know y was a vowel?
02:43 <nsh22> y is a vowel in english
02:43 <nsh22> ssometimes
02:43 <BabyBug> no it's not..
02:43 <nsh22> like in "why:
02:43 <Lucifer> because here in america, we learn that the vowels of the english language are a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y
02:43 <nsh22> lol
02:43  * nsh22 sings that little song
02:43 <BabyBug> y is not not an english vowel
02:43 <nsh22> yes it is, sometimes
02:43 <Lucifer> yes it is
02:43 <BabyBug> no it's not
02:43 <nsh22> slie in why
02:43 <Lucifer> ok, what's the vowel in sky?
02:43 <Lucifer> glyph?
02:44 <Lucifer> myth?
02:44 <nsh22> crypt
02:44 <nsh22> spy
02:44 <Lucifer> dyckeater
02:44 <BabyBug> perhaps i need a real explination of a vowel..
02:44 <nsh22> lol
02:44 <nsh22> ok, seroiously you guys, can we.....
02:44  * nsh22 continues with song
02:44 <Lucifer> a vowel is vocalized in the back of the throat, using only your tongue, you know, where my, um, yeah, back there
02:44 <madmax> that's Lucifer's cue
02:45 <Lucifer> consonants use the front of the mouth, tongue, lips, and teeth
02:45 <Lucifer> so, vowels are deepthroat, and consonants are just regular stuff
02:45 <Lucifer> to put it in terms you'd understand :)
02:45 <nsh22> rly i didnt know that. i just learned something from tron yay
02:45 <BabyBug> ok well...welsh still has more vowels!
02:45 <nsh22> my life is fufiled
02:46 <BabyBug> there you go Lucifer, Welsh people are more sexy, we give more deep throats =P
02:46 <Lucifer> in most sane languages (i.e. non-slavic and non-germanic), vowels are needed between consonants because you can't pronounce two consonants in a row without inserting a vowel sound
02:47 <BabyBug> well in answer to madmax's earlier comment of " come on, only languages with vowels make some sense" ...w is a vowel...so hwyl is totally fine
02:47 <Lucifer> w isn't a vowel in english
02:48 <nsh22> J*zz in my pants Lyrics
02:48 <nsh22> Lock eyes from across the room
02:48 <nsh22> down my drink while the rhythms boom
02:48 <madmax> ok so, regular vowels!
02:48 <nsh22> take your hand and skip the names
02:48 <nsh22> no need here for the silly games
02:48 <nsh22> make our way through the smoke and crowd
02:48 <nsh22> the club is the sky and I’m on your cloud
02:48 <nsh22> move in close as the lasers fly
02:48 <nsh22> our bodies touch and the angels cry
02:48 <Lucifer> #kick nsh22
02:48 <nsh22> leave this place go back to yours
02:48 <nsh22> our lips first touch outside your doors
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02:48 <BabyBug> Lucifer, in welsh it's pronounced as oo, as in ..."zoo"...so...yeh..
02:48 <BabyBug> it's fine
02:48 <madmax> we only have a,e,i,o,u in portuguese
02:48 <Lucifer> really?  you don't have j as a sometimes vowel?
02:49 <Lucifer> er wait, nvm
02:49 <BabyBug> h is sometimes a vowel here
02:49 <Lucifer> I guess that wouldn't make sense
02:49 <BabyBug> y is always a vowel
02:49 <madmax> no
02:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: why don't you guys just use a different alphabet?
02:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, we do?
02:49 <Lucifer> that way those portuguese people wouldn't think you're weird
02:49 <Lucifer> not that iberians have any sense of what's normal, mind you
02:49 <BabyBug> a, b, c, ch, d, dd, e, f, ff..etc etc...
02:50 <madmax> pffft.
02:50 <BabyBug> Totally different from the english alphabet :P
02:50 <Lucifer> I mean one that's not latin in origin
02:50 <BabyBug> uhh
02:50 <BabyBug> Why should we?
02:50 <Lucifer> [19:49] <Lucifer> that way those portuguese people wouldn't think you're weird
02:51 <BabyBug> ok let me rephrase
02:51 <BabyBug> Why should we give a hoot about what Portuguese people think?
02:51 <madmax> how could that be better?
02:51 <Lucifer> ah, indeed, you've asked a very deep question, BabyBug (hi there!)
02:51 <BabyBug> >< lol
02:52 <BabyBug> The Welsh accent rocks though! We always sound like we're singing it's so beautiful =D
02:52 <Lucifer> heh
02:52 <Lucifer> get a mic
02:52 <BabyBug> lol
02:52 <Lucifer> hmm, maybe that's how the english conquered you so easily
02:53 <Lucifer> you were too busy singing
02:53 <madmax> speaking of welsh, the Dakar daily is on (yeah, totally related)
02:53 <Lucifer> the english brought swords and longbows, and you brought songs
02:53  * madmax is off
02:53 <BabyBug> Lizmatic keeps pestering me for a mic...i don't want you doing it to ><
02:53 <Lucifer> I have purely professional arma reasons for wanting it
02:53 <Lucifer> assuming your voice and accent are sexy, of course
02:53 <BabyBug> such as.....?
02:53 <BabyBug> what uses would they be
02:54 <@armabot> lpbugs: [317324] *DEAD* Prefix Missing From /team Message
02:54 <Lucifer> well, you've heard the announcer's voice in 0.3.0?
02:54 <BabyBug> yeh
02:54 <Lucifer> the plan is to have many things the announcer says
02:54 <Lucifer> and a way to disable them, of course
02:54 <Lucifer> (which there isn't right now)
02:54 <Lucifer> we'll need someone to provide the voice for the announcer at that time
02:55 <BabyBug> in a sexy womans voice instead of an stupid mans voice?
02:55 <Lucifer> not just sexy, but english with a sexy accent (british accent isn't sexy enough)
02:55 <BabyBug> I probably wouldn't be able to record it...
02:55 <Lucifer> I was wanting an eastern european accent, but I'll take any sexy accent that comes along
02:55 <BabyBug> I giggle way too much
02:56  * ct|kyle can't wait for the new splash screen :P
02:56  * Lucifer hasn't received it yet
02:56 <BabyBug> what splash screen?
02:56 <Lucifer> let's not talk about it
02:56 <ct|kyle> lol
02:56 <BabyBug> ...
02:56 <BabyBug> talk
02:56 <BabyBug> now
02:56 <Lucifer> oh, time to make dinner, bbiab
02:56 <BabyBug> no!
02:56 <ct|kyle> no you don't cuddle anymore
02:56 <ct|kyle> :P
02:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer...... ><
02:57 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i'm not allowed to cuddle =x
02:57 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I'm not allowed to speak about that thingy
02:58 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, nothing's going to happen if you do though.
02:58 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: may kill me
02:58 <BabyBug> no he wont
02:58 <BabyBug> i'll stop him
02:58 <ct|kyle> actually the temp will stop him LOL
02:58 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
02:59 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 3.9°F (8:58 PM EST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Rising).  Wind chill warning in effect from midnight tonight to 12 PM EST Friday...
02:59 <BabyBug> ok well fine
02:59 <ct|kyle> wow that hot still
02:59 <BabyBug> tell me then =P
02:59 <BabyBug> You tell me, and i'll give you a cuddle!
03:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no you won't
03:00 <BabyBug> yes i will
03:01 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no you won't you're not allowed to
03:01 <BabyBug> i'll only get a spanking which i'll enjoy
03:01 <BabyBug> so tell me
03:01 <ct|kyle> well if you enjoy the spanking why don't you just cuddle me
03:02 <BabyBug> because i need bribe material against you
03:03 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I told you as much as i know already
03:03 <BabyBug> you haven't told me anything
03:04 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: exactly because the rest of the details are unknown
03:04 <BabyBug> so you know nothing?
03:04 <ct|kyle> nothing more than what i stated i was waiting for
03:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:04 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, then no cuddles
03:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Fail
03:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:05 <BabyBug> I said tell me and you get a cuddle. If you know nothing more, you can't tell me, because it's impossible to portray nothingness
03:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06  * ct|kyle smacks BabyBug
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <BabyBug> just because you know i'm right
03:06 <BabyBug> lol
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <BabyBug> and lucifer isn't here for his "typical girl logic" crap
03:06 <BabyBug> \o/
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you said you had a plan before..what plan?
03:07 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:07 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: still has kinks
03:07 <BabyBug> ...
03:07 <BabyBug> you'll end up scrapping it
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03:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: http://rafb.net/p/eEbYXo63.html
03:10 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: LOL
03:10 <luke-jr> <.<
03:11 <ct|kyle> #g 60 euros in USD
03:11 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 60 Euros = 79.02600 U.S. dollars
03:11 <luke-jr> #g 120 euro in USD
03:11 <@armabot> luke-jr: 120 Euros = 158.05200 U.S. dollars
03:11 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that 60 GB was only on 1 of those 2 Dedicated servers
03:11 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: next time say so, so I don't bother trying
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03:13 <ct|kyle> lol :S luke-jr, and that also has online player information in it too
03:13 <BabyBug> luke-jr, just out of interest, how are you planning to monitor the bandwidth they use?
03:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: netfilter
03:14 <BabyBug> luke-jr, so why not use that to get some real statistics and base your plan off them?
03:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: i did
03:14 <luke-jr> i pasted them earlier
03:15 <BabyBug> Uhh no. That was a collection of arma servers...
03:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r981 Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs pac...
03:15 <BabyBug> Not individual arma servers..
03:15 <luke-jr> individual customers
03:15 <luke-jr> all but one of which were single-server
03:15 <BabyBug> but still...to generate a decent pricing plan, you need to figure out what an individual server uses..
03:16 <BabyBug> and know how often the server gets used
03:17 <luke-jr> …
03:17 <luke-jr> I ended up taking the sum of all the paid accounts (minus 100 MB each) bandwidth and comparing it to the income provided by those same accounts
03:18 <BabyBug> that's a flawed way of doing it =P
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03:20 <luke-jr> is it?
03:20 <BabyBug> yesh
03:20 <luke-jr> how so?
03:21 <luke-jr> oh, I forgot to mention +$5 maintenance fee ;p
03:21 <ct|kyle> and luke-jr I can run up to 400 GB bandwidth for $10.00
03:22 <kattollikisd> can someone here tell me how do I change the color of my car?
03:22 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, that's on a forever repeating timer btw
03:23 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it just is =x
03:23 <BabyBug> I'm shit an explaining things so don't know how to say why
03:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: can you?
03:23 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya
03:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I mean, sure, I will believe your bandwidth cap is $10, but I doubt you can actually DO that with just Armagetron ;)
03:23 <luke-jr> s/$10/400 GB/
03:24 <luke-jr> to hit 400 GB with Armagetron, I bet you'd need a dedicated machine a number of times more powerful than what your VPS is
03:24 <ct|kyle> ya
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03:25 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: would you please kill that timer every 5 seconds
03:25 <BabyBug> lol you ass
03:25 <BabyBug> =P
03:26 <BabyBug> mwahahaha that'll teach you to try cuddle me :D
03:26  * ct|kyle cuddles babybug
03:26 <ct|kyle> :P
03:26 <BabyBug> *kicks away(
03:26 <BabyBug> **
03:26 <ct|kyle> lol
03:27 <ct|kyle> #si -v racing 2
03:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing 2” at the moment, sorry.
03:28 <BabyBug> #si -v racing II
03:28 <ct|kyle> #si -v racing II
03:28 <@armabot> BabyBug: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II ( running 0.2.8_alpha20081214 unix dedicated, url: http://www.DeliciousDesserts.co.nr, Description: “There are currently 12 maps in rotation. Come race with us, it's whoever gets to the finish line wins! Good speed racing, different views, fun people, and many maps. Some maps have different axes.“, Players (11/14): ., 1225, (1 more message)
03:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II ( running 0.2.8_alpha20081214 unix dedicated, url: http://www.DeliciousDesserts.co.nr, Description: “There are currently 12 maps in rotation. Come race with us, it's whoever gets to the finish line wins! Good speed racing, different views, fun people, and many maps. Some maps have different axes.“, Players (11/14): ., 1225, (1 more message)
03:28 <BabyBug> beat you!
03:28 <ct|kyle> ^^ they should update
03:29 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:29 <BabyBug> JOIN!
03:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: No, you kick me
03:31 <BabyBug> Is that an order to kick you?
03:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no that was an order to cuddle me :P
03:32 <ct|kyle> stupid girl logic
03:32 <BabyBug> *kicks*
03:32 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:32 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): BabyBug
03:34 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:34 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): BabyBug, paperclip
03:34 <BabyBug> :D
03:34 <ct|kyle> #si -v open sumo
03:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo ( running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090115 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Team Sumo Settings. First to be 1337 wins.“, Players (0/12):
03:40 <madmax> nexus9 still alive?
03:41 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:41 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (3/16): BabyBug, MFC, paperclip
03:41 <BabyBug> madmax!!
03:42  * madmax isn't going
03:42 <BabyBug> why?
03:42 <madmax> I'm trying to finish something until 3:30
03:42 <BabyBug> awww come on
03:43 <BabyBug> just a couple of rounds
03:43 <madmax> heh nope
03:43 <BabyBug> paperclip is asking for you!
03:44 <BabyBug> more importantly..i'm asking for yooh!
03:46 <BabyBug> pweaaaaaaase madmax =(
03:47 <madmax> lol can't
03:48 <BabyBug> one match!
03:51 <ct|kyle> #si -v wild fortress.
03:51 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (crazy-tronners.com:4534) running 0.2.8_alpha20070830 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “There's like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (0/14):
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03:52 <mib_v2ktww> hey yo all u out there
03:52 <mib_v2ktww>  any one here me???
03:52 <luke-jr> nope
03:52 <luke-jr> sorry
03:53 <mib_v2ktww> great
03:53 <luke-jr> might check your microphone
03:53 <mib_v2ktww> how do you make your trail a different coler then you charector in the game
03:54 <mib_v2ktww> nvm
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03:56 <ct|kyle> LOL
03:57 <ct|kyle> IRC n00bs
04:04 <BabyBug> madmax!! :@
04:07 <BabyBug> madmax, oi! get back on.. lol
04:24 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, actually, you'd take the sum of the bandwidth used by all servers and divide it by the cost of the bandwidth for all servers
04:24 <Lucifer> that is, if you don't want to have to meter bandwidth for individual server operators
04:29 <BabyBug> shh Lucifer
04:35 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: and don't forgot to subtract 70*#ofServers from it first
04:36 <BabyBug> ?
04:36 <BabyBug> 100 actually ct|kyle
04:37 <ct|kyle> 70 MB	= 0-slot
04:37 <BabyBug> we said earlier to round it up to 100
04:47 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
04:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 2.5°F (10:46 PM EST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Rising).  Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM EST Friday...
04:47 <ct|kyle> 0F
05:05 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 60°F 16°C / Humidity: 17% / Wind: S at 2 mph
05:05 <Stewah> :D
05:06  * BabyBug tickles Stewah 
05:06 <Stewah> D:
05:06  * Stewah giggles
05:07 <BabyBug> giggler!
05:07 <Stewah> sorry! D:
05:07 <Stewah> it's an impulse >.>
05:07 <BabyBug> Noooooo don't be sorry!
05:07 <BabyBug> Gigglers are funny!
05:07  * BabyBug is a giggler
05:07 <Stewah> oh phew D:
05:07 <Stewah> I thought I was a rare one
05:08 <BabyBug> no no, you're perfectly common xD
05:09 <BabyBug> (you walked into that one)
05:09 <Stewah> I totally did
05:09 <Stewah> and didn't expect to get out of it
05:09 <BabyBug> =P
05:09 <Stewah> it happens to often honestly >.>
05:10 <BabyBug> lol awww bless...i would give you a cuddle but i'm not allowed =x
05:10 <Stewah> why not?
05:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic would shout at me
05:10 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> Lizmatic: stop holding back her style
05:11 <BabyBug> lol she's sleeping shhhh!! don't wake her up :@
05:11 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> sorry D:
05:12 <BabyBug> =D
05:12  * BabyBug must seem like a 12 year old...
05:12 <Stewah> You totally do >.>
05:12 <BabyBug> lmao
05:12 <Stewah> but then again, my fiance is acting younger and younger each day also...
05:13 <BabyBug> the internet is the one place i can be left alone to be immature =D
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:13 <Stewah> That's how normal people cope with it :P
05:13 <Stewah> if we can call anyone on the internet normal >.>
05:13 <BabyBug> Oh she's probably thinking that she'll be getting married soon, that makes her instantly old, so she's acting younger to counter act that!
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:14 <BabyBug> as soon as ya married that's it, you're official classed as old!
05:14 <BabyBug> officially*
05:14 <Stewah> Naw, she probably does it cause I say she's cute when she does it :D
05:14 <BabyBug> lol
05:14 <Stewah> Which is true >.>
05:14 <BabyBug> how old are you/she?
05:14 <Stewah> 19 :D
05:15 <Stewah> er
05:15 <Stewah> me = 17
05:15 <BabyBug> she's 19?
05:15 <Stewah> yeah
05:15 <BabyBug> you're engaged at 17? lol
05:15 <Stewah> :D
05:15 <Stewah> she agreed to it :D
05:15 <BabyBug> O.o wow...I'm a mother and still wouldn't even think about getting engaged yet.. =x
05:16 <BabyBug> (i'm 18)
05:16 <Stewah> Hrm
05:16 <Stewah> How old is the baby?
05:16 <BabyBug> 4 months today \o/
05:17 <Stewah> Awww :D
05:17 <Stewah> Happy 4 months :D
05:17 <Stewah> xD
05:17 <BabyBug> xD =D
05:17 <BabyBug> That's why i'm so immature on the internet...no spare time for it in rl anymore xD
05:18 <Stewah> Well you'll fit in in most places
05:18 <BabyBug> i still can't believe you're engaged..omg.. lol
05:18 <Stewah> lol
05:18 <Stewah> Sorry that I'm in love? :D
05:18 <BabyBug> haha
05:18  * BabyBug is in love too you know! =P
05:19 <Stewah> Awwww :D
05:19 <BabyBug> despite his constant moaning and repeated rants i still love the git =P
05:19 <Stewah> Who's the lucky guy/girl?
05:19 <Stewah> lol
05:19 <Stewah> Awww, does he atleast giggle?
05:19 <BabyBug> guy...lol, His name is Richie, he's the father aswell =)
05:20 <Stewah> Awww
05:20 <Stewah> So he's not afraid of commitments? :P
05:20 <BabyBug> he doesn't giggle no...but he's really easy to wind up which makes me giggle =D
05:20 <Stewah> xD
05:21 <Stewah> I don't really have to do anything to make my fiance giggle xD
05:21 <BabyBug> Ermm.. well...He left me as soon as he found out i was pregnant.. (even though we previously agreed we'd keep the baby if i got pregnant) and then we got back together 2 weeks before she came.. lmao
05:21 <Stewah> Oh...
05:21 <BabyBug> i can laugh about it now =P
05:21 <Stewah> lol
05:21 <BabyBug> And it's great wind up material.. =P
05:21 <Stewah> rofl
05:21 <BabyBug> he just got scared..i can understand =D
05:21 <Stewah> Awww :D
05:22 <Stewah> Another girl that can understand guy's mistakes! :D
05:22 <BabyBug> All girls do secretly..we just never tell you that xD
05:22 <Stewah> lol
05:23 <BabyBug> We have to take our anger out on someone! =P
05:23 <Stewah> Pfft, there are different ways of doing that >.>
05:23 <Stewah> She teases me a lot xD
05:23 <BabyBug> lol =D
05:24 <BabyBug> i'll tease anyone..it's funny ^^
05:24 <Stewah> rofl
05:24 <BabyBug> get the person horny and then walk away... =D
05:24 <Stewah> You sound just like her xD
05:24 <BabyBug> haha x)
05:25 <Stewah> But like when we go to the mall, she goes and teases some guy, then walks off to me :D
05:25 <Stewah> It's fun to watch their reactions :D
05:25 <BabyBug> lol yup =D
05:26 <BabyBug> It's always nice getting a free drink in a club and then walking away with it aswell xD
05:26 <Stewah> rofl
05:26 <Stewah> that's just mean xD
05:26 <BabyBug> lmao =D
05:27 <BabyBug> you'd do it if you had tits! =P
05:27 <Stewah> PFft
05:27 <Stewah> I have tits... just not boobs
05:27 <BabyBug> or would you be a typical bloke and spend the whole day in the shower playing with em? =P
05:27 <Stewah> Also: No milk comes out of mine.
05:27 <BabyBug> haha
05:28 <Stewah> Well I don't need mine anymore :P
05:29 <BabyBug> well you don't mind older women so i instantly like you! Too many men are sooooo egotistical around here and wont go with older women
05:29 <BabyBug> they're wankers
05:29 <Stewah> Well it was scary at first xD
05:29 <Stewah> well
05:30 <Stewah> not scary
05:30 <BabyBug> just different? =P
05:30 <Stewah> yeah lol
05:30 <Stewah> But I'm glad I stuck with her :D
05:30 <BabyBug> awwww ^^ =)
05:31 <BabyBug> So when are you two having kids? xD (not to scare you or anything)
05:31 <Stewah> xD
05:31 <Stewah> Uhm....
05:31 <Stewah> We haven't thought about it at all >.>
05:31 <Stewah> Or atleast I haven't xD
05:31 <BabyBug> lol aye...she has...she defiantly has xD
05:31 <Stewah> xD
05:32 <Stewah> She might think I little me running around would be scary xD
05:32 <BabyBug> hahah
05:32 <Stewah> a*
05:32 <BabyBug> how long have you been with her?
05:33 <Stewah> 2 and a half years...
05:33 <Stewah> er
05:33 <BabyBug> Wow..
05:33 <Stewah> 1 and a half*
05:33 <Stewah> finger slip xD
05:33 <BabyBug> Oh
05:33 <BabyBug> LOL
05:33 <BabyBug> how long engaged?
05:33 <Stewah> actually 1 year 6 months 1 week :P
05:34 <BabyBug> haha awwww bless...i wont how long it'll be until you stop remembering that =P
05:34 <Stewah> for the 6 months 1 week
05:34 <BabyBug> who proposed to who? =P
05:34 <Stewah> Me to her xD
05:34 <Stewah> but it was planned >.>
05:34 <Stewah> lol
05:34 <BabyBug> ... planned as in she knew about it? O.o
05:34 <Stewah> yeah
05:34 <BabyBug> >.<
05:35 <BabyBug> lol
05:35 <BabyBug> if Richie tells me he's going to propose before he does i'm soooo gonna castrate him :@
05:35 <Stewah> rofl
05:36 <Stewah> Well... she was sort of hinting at it as I was thinking about it
05:37 <Stewah> So I asked her if she wanted me to and it got planned from there xD
05:37 <BabyBug> lol
05:38 <BabyBug> Richie's give hints to me...trying to see if i'd respond...but i don't...If he wants to propose he needs to get the balls to do it without hints xD
05:38 <Stewah> lol
05:38 <Stewah> I was trying not to give hints xD
05:38 <BabyBug> lol nah, you were just upfront and said "hey, wanna plan the proposal?" xD
05:39 <Stewah> xD
05:39 <Stewah> So if she were you, I would be castrated now? xD
05:39 <BabyBug> oh yesh
05:39 <BabyBug> lol
05:39 <BabyBug> I want the surprise!
05:39 <Stewah> lol
05:41 <BabyBug> Hey wait...i thought the legal age limit is 18 where you are? lol
05:41 <Stewah> They can't put an age limit on marraige! D:
05:41 <BabyBug> wait you haven't slept with her yet? O.o
05:42 <Stewah> Oh that >.>
05:42 <Stewah> Uhm... "legal" >.>
05:42 <BabyBug> ? lol..i hate cryptic people =P
05:43 <Stewah> lol
05:43 <Stewah> means it isn't legal xD
05:43 <BabyBug> but you have slept with her? =P
05:43 <BabyBug> actually no don't answer that
05:43 <Stewah> xD
05:43 <BabyBug> i'm asking far too personal of question =P
05:43  * BabyBug slaps herself
05:44 <Stewah> Thanks xD
05:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer's old so i can ask him stuff all i like xD
05:44 <Lucifer> you shouldn't do it when I'm horny
05:44 <Stewah> I'm sure when I turn 18 I'll answer that question :P
05:44 <BabyBug> lol Stewah
05:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, why not? =(
05:45 <BabyBug> That's the funniest time to do it!
05:45 <Stewah> Lucifer: are you horny now?
05:46 <Lucifer> am I ever not horny these days?
05:46 <Stewah> I wouldn't know
05:46 <Stewah> BabyBug: get to asking him personal questions
05:46 <BabyBug> Stewah, question, Feel free to completely ignore this question aswell though. Would you mind if she slept with another girl while with you?
05:46  * Lucifer points at the other tab
05:47 <Stewah> BabyBug: not at all
05:47 <ct|kyle> lol
05:47 <BabyBug> we'll continue this in the other channel...
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05:53 <p0l0na1sE> Hello, what is the F2 clan website?
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09:28 <PinkTomato> guru3: spam: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202289#202289
09:29 <Lizmatic> I see BabyBug has been misbehaving again, geez that girl her questions.. xD
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10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8823 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp):
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat message, not
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: as a console message. This fixes any clientside decorations.
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8824 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. build/WorkMakefile build/configure): (log message trimmed)
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8798 to 8822:
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8822 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-15 02:37:25 +0100 (Thu, 15 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Daniel Lee Harple: Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs package from https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=266788
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  (not merged, diverged)
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8825 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): (log message trimmed)
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8822 to 8824:
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11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad:  r8823 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-15 10:53:35 +0100 (Thu, 15 Jan 2009) | 4 lines
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad:  author: Manuel Moos
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad:  Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat message, not
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad:  as a console message. This fixes any clientside decorations.
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11:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r786 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8822 to 8824:... || [trunk-build-work] r157 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8798 to 8822:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r982 Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat mess...
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12:08 <glandon> ok so i have the game installed but for some reason the resolution is outside of the 1440x900 that my 19 inch high def monitor will handle can anyone tell me how i can fix this
12:10 <glandon> anyone?
12:10 <glandon> ok is anyone out there period
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12:39 <guru3> try deleting your user.cfg
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13:44 <glandon> where do i find that? still not all that familiar with the file layout of ubuntu
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14:57 <Lizmatic> o/
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15:57 <Lizmatic> \o/
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17:59 <BabyBug> BOOoooOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOoooooOOOOoo
18:02 <K-Yo> ^o)p
18:02  * BabyBug slaps K-Ho
18:04 <PinkTomato> AAAAhhhh!
18:08  * K-Yo slaps BabyBug back
18:08 <K-Yo> .ping
18:08 <BabyBug> missed!
18:08 <PinkTomato> #ping
18:08 <@armabot> pong
18:08  * K-Yo re-slap BabyBug back again
18:08 <K-Yo> #slap BabyBug
18:08 <BabyBug> missed again!
18:09 <@armabot> K-Yo slaps BabyBug for being a raving moron.
18:09 <K-Yo> arf
18:09 <K-Yo> bim
18:09 <K-Yo> gotcha!
18:10  * BabyBug resists the urge to #kick :@
18:13 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: de puta madre
18:14 <PinkTomato> That didn't sound nice.
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 CONSOLE_MESSAGE
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg MSG
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 MESSAGE
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: ADMIN_KILL_MESSAGE: admin_kill_message_help || CENTER_MESSAGE: Prints a big message on the screen of all connected clients. || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || FULLSCREEN_MESSAGE: Prints a big message all over the screen, interrupting gameplay for a configurable timeout. Use with care. || MESSAGE_OF_DAY: Message sent to clients on (1 more message)
18:18 <PinkTomato> FULLSCREEN_MESSAGE...
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18:56 <BabyBug> epsy!
18:56 <epsy> BabyBug?
18:56 <BabyBug> Hiya =)
18:57 <epsy> hi
18:57 <epsy> ah, they gave me  invites again Oo
18:57 <epsy> 5*
18:57 <BabyBug> to where?
18:57 <BabyBug> and who? :P
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19:00 <epsy> who - Id software
19:00 <epsy> where to - quakelive :)
19:00  * epsy is looking forward to waste them
19:00 <BabyBug> ohs
19:00 <BabyBug> #google id software
19:01 <BabyBug> #google quakelive
19:01 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.30 seconds: id Software: <http://www.idsoftware.com/>; id Software : Quake II: <http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/>; id Software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software>; Doom 3: <http://www.doom3.com/>; Intrinsic Development : Services: <http://www.id.com/>; QUAKE 4: <http://www.quake4game.com/>; Doom3FrontPage - (1 more message)
19:01 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.20 seconds: Welcome to QUAKELIVE: <http://www.quakelive.com/>; id Beta Center: <http://quakelive.idsoftware.com/>; Quake Live - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Zero>; Gametrailers.com - Quake Live - E3 2008: Exclusive Debut Trailer HD: <http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37086.html>; Quake Live Screenshots - Voodoo Extreme: (2 more messages)
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19:03 <BabyBug> well Flex, you lasted long with your "won't come on IRC anymore"
19:04 <Flex> i'll come on irc if i please.. what's it to you?
19:04 <Flex> seriously.. where the fuck did you come from?
19:05 <BabyBug> Just pointing out yet another example of how you never do anything you say you will...you really are pathetic
19:06 <Flex> lol.. jeez
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19:10 <Flex> me coming on irc has nothing to do with you or whatever i say to anyone else.. you little nosey child
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19:13 <Flex> you have a kid right? i bet its as fucked up as you are..
19:13 <BabyBug> Flex, Why moan at me for being nosey? You say you're the one who got Lisa to talk to me, so you only have yourself to blame for me having an opinion =)
19:14 <BabyBug> you're calling me fucked up? You're a shitty little cry baby attention seeker. With your "blocked and deleted you" statements..what a load of crap..
19:16 <BabyBug> You've come back on IRC far too early though. You've held out for a week before on previous statements
19:17 <Flex> yeah, i also introduced her to the game, and told her to install irc and even chose her funny name.. i've got a lot of things to blame myself for. yup...
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19:18 <Flex> i've been on this channel far longer than you have.. so coming on here or not is NOTHING to do with you.. because 1.. you don't own this channel or have any authority and #2 it's none of your concern.. again with your big fucking nose
19:19 <epsy> she has
19:19 <Flex> she has what?
19:19 <BabyBug> lmao
19:19 <ct|kyle> http://xkcd.com/323/
19:20 <epsy> haha yeah I loved that one
19:21 <PinkTomato> hehe
19:29 <Flex> BabyBug, if you had any sort of idea, you would know not to even get involved in matters that do not concern you. Do you assume you're some sort of role model that you can tell her what decisions to make? You're what 18? with a child.. do you even work? how the fuck do you pay rent or take care of your child?
19:29 <epsy> please, don't restart trolling
19:30 <luke-jr> epsy: #armaTWGetron !
19:30 <Flex> seeing as how you make yourself concerned in matters that don't concern you, does JSA make life easier so you can join chat channels and act like you're some mature person? lol
19:30 <epsy> or talk in /msg
19:30 <luke-jr> flex too
19:30 <Flex> stfu, i'll respond to what someone started
19:30 <epsy> respond to her in PM
19:30 <epsy> we don't care about this
19:30 <BabyBug> xD
19:31 <PinkTomato> And it was a small statement that has esculatted
19:32 <luke-jr> epsy: Flex
19:32 <epsy> luke-jr: I don't want to play IRC games
19:32 <BabyBug> epsy, sure you do!
19:32 <Flex> so.. JSA make your life good BabyBug?
19:33 <epsy> Flex, PM
19:33 <Flex> epsy stfu
19:33 <epsy> armabot, op
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o epsy] by armabot
19:33 <luke-jr> Flex: #ArmaTWGeTRON
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o BabyBug] by epsy
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o epsy] by epsy
19:34 <Flex> oh look.. epsy with admins
19:34 <Flex> that's a surprise
19:34 <epsy> I knew you would love
19:34 <@BabyBug> epsy, >< lol
19:34 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@tramshed.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #armagetron
19:34 <luke-jr> #kick epsy
19:35 <epsy> BabyBug, feel free to do whatever you like with him
19:35 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "luke-jr"]
19:35 <madmax> this is a whole new level of awesomeness
19:35 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #armagetron
19:35 <luke-jr> wasn't me! <.<
19:35 <epsy> :D
19:37 <@BabyBug> madmax, indeed it is! :D
19:37 <Flex> so.. JSA right?
19:37 <@BabyBug> arf...
19:37 <Flex> do i pay your bills?
19:37 <luke-jr> FLEX
19:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*i=Flex@*.bmly.cable.ntl.com] by BabyBug
19:38 -!- Flex was kicked from #armagetron by BabyBug [Wooooo Authority rocks doesn't it? FYI, i'm not on JSA, i have a bf and you completely missed the point of what i was trying to say AS USUAL!]
19:38 <@BabyBug> I'll remove that in 2...
19:38 <epsy> no need to hurry, none really cares
19:39 -!- Flex [i=Flex@unaffiliated/flex] has joined #armagetron
19:39 <Flex> lol, thanks. i'm done ;)
19:40 <madmax> this looks like a dick size contest
19:42 <luke-jr> BabyBug: Flex wants kick again :D
19:42 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*@unaffiliated/flex] by BabyBug
19:42 <luke-jr> he won't play
19:42 -!- Flex was kicked from #armagetron by BabyBug [better give him what he wants!]
19:42 <epsy> lol :)
19:42 <luke-jr> XD
19:43 <luke-jr> u should come play too
19:43 <luke-jr> madmax: too
19:43 <@BabyBug> We'll never see eye to eye...Sorry for bringing that into this channel though, that was my fault really.
19:49 <epsy> @as
19:49 <teabot> epsy: This data is 7 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (12/16), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (7/8), Norm's Home - Open Gameplay (5/16), SPACEZONE III (4/15), |FA| Black Ice! (3/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (3/16), -=PruTurboCTF=- (3/10), (1 more message)
19:49 <epsy> zomg moar
19:49 <teabot> epsy: {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (3/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (3/14), -  [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ]  -         . (2/8), Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<< (1/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (1/10), Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress! (1/8)
19:50 <epsy> boo
19:50 <epsy> uhm, café anyone?
19:52 <luke-jr> no wai
19:52 <luke-jr> TWG!
19:53 <sinewav> how about flag fort?
19:53 <epsy> what's that?
19:53 <luke-jr> sinewav: #armatwgetron
19:53 <sinewav> really?
19:53 <sinewav> it's a fort ctf hybrind
19:53 <sinewav> `hybrid*
19:54 <luke-jr> epsy: CTF with conquerable home zones
19:54 <epsy> so bases can be conquered? or flags needs to be earned, like in warsow?
19:54 <sinewav> both
19:54 <luke-jr> sinewav: need 1 more player for TWG
19:54 <sinewav> you can capture a flag or a base
19:54 <sinewav> respawning...
19:54 <sinewav> fort physics
19:55 <sinewav> luke-jr: I'm terrible at TWG
19:55 <luke-jr> so?
19:55 <sinewav> I'm not fast enough, mentally
19:55 <luke-jr> practice
19:55 <epsy> sinewav, I'm in
19:55 <sinewav> epsy: I'm actually there now
19:56 <epsy> @ls sinewav
19:56 <epsy> @ls epsy
19:56 <luke-jr> #ls sine
19:56 <@armabot> luke-jr: ctt_sine.wav seems to be on Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<< right now.
19:57 <epsy> @ping
19:57 <teabot> pong
19:57 <epsy> dead already
19:57 <epsy> or not
19:57 <teabot> epsy: sinewav has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 4 days 19 hours 51 minutes ago.
19:57 <teabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress! right now.
20:06 -!- sinewav is now known as sinewav_away
20:10 <madmax> #fetch http://forums.armagetronad.net/
20:10 <@armabot> madmax: timed out
20:12  * PinkTomato has trouble also
20:13 <@BabyBug> #fetch http://forums.armagetronad.net/
20:13 <@armabot> BabyBug: timed out
20:13 <@BabyBug> armabot usually loves me ='(
20:13 <epsy> is this usual?
20:13 <PinkTomato> It does love you!
20:13 <PinkTomato> For me it never replies
20:14 <@BabyBug> lol ^^
20:14 <PinkTomato> at least you can get a grunt :D
20:14 <PinkTomato> epsy:  not usual :), it is site down
20:17 <madmax> guru3: forums down?
20:17 <epsy> obviousely
20:19 <luke-jr> need bug testers in TWG
20:19 <luke-jr> plz
20:21 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:22 -!- sinewav_away [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
20:22 <PinkTomato> #fetch youtube.com
20:22 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'youtube.com' is not a valid url.
20:23 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #armagetron
20:23 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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20:23 <epsy> http://
20:24 <PinkTomato> ah, well It's working now, my sanity is saved :).
20:27 <epsy> won't work here
20:27 -!- UGPSouthU3 [n=chatzill@plmomi-l10-104.dsl.tds.net] has joined #armagetron
20:28 -!- UGPSouthU3 is now known as apparition
20:28 <apparition> yo dudes
20:28 <epsy> hello apparition
20:28 <sinewav> yo
20:28 <apparition> how's the day going?
20:28 <sinewav> #weather 60130
20:29 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is -1.5°F (1:28 PM CST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -16.6°F. Windchill: -14.8°F. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Falling).  Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM CST Friday...
20:29 <sinewav> that's how
20:29 <apparition> #weather 48104
20:29 <@armabot> apparition: The current temperature in Greenhills School, Ann Arbor, Michigan is 7.9°F (2:29 PM EST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: -7.6°F. Pressure: 24.98 in 845.8 hPa (Falling).  Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon Friday...
20:29 <apparition> dang, little nicer here
20:29 <sinewav> ah. you can relate
20:29 <apparition> i want to talk about t-shirts
20:30 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
20:30 <sinewav> arma t's?
20:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 0.7°F (2:30 PM EST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.8°F. Windchill: -13.0°F. Pressure: 30.56 in 1034.8 hPa (Steady).  Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM EST Friday...
20:30 <apparition> yep
20:30 <sinewav> what about appa?
20:30 <apparition> have t's been done for arma before?
20:30 <sinewav>  dunno
20:31 <apparition> i don't know either and i can't get on armagetron forums to search around/post
20:31 <apparition> won't load
20:31 <sinewav> can't armabot do it?
20:32  * apparition shrugs
20:32 <apparition> i don't know the ways of armabot
20:32 <epsy> do what?
20:32 <sinewav> I see it's not loading for me either
20:32 <sinewav> search forums
20:32 <madmax> #google site:forums.armagetronad.net t-shirts
20:32 <madmax> \o/
20:32 <sinewav> \o/
20:32 <@armabot> madmax: Search took 1.56 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Search: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_author=Sticky&sid=38561a53d17011a7e6a1f3638d25ac22>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Plan for upgrading: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=37952>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Survey to see how much money we ...: (3 more messages)
20:32 <@BabyBug> lol
20:32 <@BabyBug> fail
20:33 <madmax> #more
20:33 <@armabot> madmax: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1279>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - New clan!: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=13661&highlight=&sid=e63b51b90665d0831dd22950939fed0c>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Developer services thread: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=173981>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Breakfast artwork request: (2 more messages)
20:33 <epsy> #alias add forums google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*
20:33 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:33 <epsy> @alias add forums google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*
20:33 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:34 <apparition> can anyone else get on the forums?
20:34 <PinkTomato> nope
20:34 <apparition> well, let's talk about this a little then
20:35 <apparition> who thinks arma shirts would be cool?
20:35  * BabyBug doesn't!
20:35 <sinewav> sh
20:35  * apparition thinks babybug is lame
20:35 <PinkTomato> what the frick is with t-shirts?
20:35 <epsy> if the t-shirt looks cool
20:35 <sinewav> yeah design is key, content is secondary
20:36 <PinkTomato> hmm.. no cafepress,
20:36 <apparition> i'm not thinking about designing it. i could have one of my graphic designers do it, but i think it'd be cool if we had a tronner design it
20:36 <@BabyBug> who's gonna model them?
20:36 <PinkTomato> if it was done properly
20:36 <sinewav> It couls be a shirt about cancer and I'd still wear it if the design kicked.
20:37 <apparition> you're going to babybug
20:37 <@BabyBug> no.... ><
20:37 <sinewav> then find us a girl with nice boobs then
20:37 <@BabyBug> lizmatic!
20:38 <apparition> lolz
20:38 <sinewav> ain't seen em
20:38 <sinewav> I'll take your word
20:38 <@BabyBug> ^^
20:38 <PinkTomato> oh model them!
20:38 <PinkTomato> I thought you meant model them.
20:39 <sinewav> as in a 3D model?
20:39 <@BabyBug> my boobs are too small to model =x
20:39 <sinewav> but you just had a baby?
20:39 <PinkTomato> yeah 3D model :)
20:39 <@BabyBug> sinewav, yes
20:39 <PinkTomato> breast size != modelling interest
20:41 <@BabyBug> pssht
20:41 -!- pikey [n=pikey@ce21.osiedle.net.pl] has joined #armagetron
20:41 <@BabyBug> pikey == pike?
20:43 <pikey> yup
20:46 <luke-jr> apparition: #armatwgetron ☺
20:47 <luke-jr> pikey  #armatwgetron too
20:47 <apparition> :) i'm at work and couldn't really get in the game
20:48 <luke-jr> we're just testing bugs now
20:48 <madmax> wiki down too, we're doomed
20:49 <@BabyBug> wiki isn't down
20:49 <@BabyBug> im on the wiki
20:49 <@BabyBug> lol
20:50 <@BabyBug> #fetch http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
20:50 <@armabot> BabyBug: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
20:50 <@BabyBug> oh
20:50 <apparition> lolz
20:50 <madmax> win
20:50 <@BabyBug> Ok well i WAS on the wiki...
20:50 <pikey> :)
20:50 <madmax> yeah, here I browsed for a bit then that
20:51 <Lucifer> #ping
20:51 <@armabot> pong
20:51  * BabyBug tickles Lucifer 
20:52 <sinewav> apparition: so, do you have any designs yet?
20:52  * Lucifer pins BabyBug and says "I have to go to work"
20:52 <@BabyBug> Eh?
20:52 <@BabyBug> i thought you dont have a job
20:52 <@BabyBug> lol
20:52 <Lucifer> I still work at the school, it's just not anywhere close to a living wage
20:52 <@BabyBug> oh
20:52 <@BabyBug> i see
20:53 <Lucifer> 7 hours a week at $10.75/hour
20:53 <apparition> i don't design much anymore. we have graphic designers working for us now \m/
20:53 <@BabyBug> oh ouch =x
20:53 <Lucifer> I could probably blow it off today and do the job next week, I'm sure my geology boss wouldn't mind
20:53 <Lucifer> classes actually start next week, so I'd rather not drive just yet
20:54 <Lucifer> and who knows?  maybe the weather next week will be better for bike riding
20:54  * Lucifer needs to check his schedule again and see where the breaks are
20:54 <@BabyBug> O.o
20:55 <sinewav> Lucifer: Hey, I'm dedicating the next month of free time to designing sounds for Arma. I'll be in touch.
20:55 <@BabyBug> sinewav, do i get sound previews? =D
20:55 <Lucifer> ok.  Try to get a sexy woman's voice with a european accent to do voice sounds ;)
20:55 <sinewav> Actually, I can get that.
20:55 <e_n_d_e_r> shweet
20:56 <apparition> so, i honestly think tron needs some shirts floating around. exposure, you know, plus who doesn't love shirst?
20:56 <apparition> shirts*
20:56 <e_n_d_e_r> id wear one hah
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> everyone already knows how much of a loser im am about this game :O
20:57 <sinewav> I'd buy one. Gotta have a sweet design though. I'll put that on the list of things to do for March.
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> !
20:57 <Lucifer> we just need designs
20:57 <sinewav> a contest?
20:57 <Lucifer> I'd be happy to set something up on cafepress if people want to give us designs for it
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> nice
20:57 <sinewav> :D
20:57 <Lucifer> then we can have a lot more than just shirts ;)
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> hats, buttons, underwear?
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> lol
20:58 <Lucifer> also, soon as there's money, we have to make extra special certain we don't infringe on Disney's copyright in any way
20:58  * sinewav could go for a new coffe mug...
20:58 <@BabyBug> underwear you be a turn off
20:58 <@BabyBug> s/you/would/
20:58 <apparition> dude we do everything
20:58 <Lucifer> underwear should have lots of rubber
20:58 <sinewav> lol!
20:58 <@BabyBug> noooooooooooo lol
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> haha
20:58 <apparition> dude, we print anything
20:58 <apparition> it doesn't even matter lolol
20:59 <e_n_d_e_r> i want some arma vans!
20:59 <Lucifer> apparition: do you provide an online storefront for it all?
20:59 <apparition> we print awesome promotional merch, too.
20:59 <apparition> yeah, check it out
20:59 <apparition> www.undergroundshirts.com
20:59 <@BabyBug> flash =x
20:59 <Lucifer> er, no, I mean an online storefront for us :)
21:00 <Lucifer> check out cafepress (I'm sure you know who they are, though)
21:00 <@BabyBug> #google cafepress
21:00 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.21 seconds: CafePress : Funny t-shirts, unique gifts, and custom t-shirts: <http://www.cafepress.com/>; CafePress .com : Sell Your Designs, Photos and Images on CafePress ...: <http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/>; T-Shirts & Clothing from CafePress: <http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/>; CafePress .com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
21:00 <e_n_d_e_r> cool
21:01 <apparition> no cafepress
21:01 <apparition> awful
21:02 <Lucifer> I've liked the stuff I've gotten from them
21:03 <Lucifer> the only real problem I have is that to preview something before someone buys it, I have to buy it myself
21:03 <Lucifer> not a big deal if it looks good, but if it sucks, I don't want to buy it ;)
21:04 <apparition> i guarantee their stuff couldn't compare to what we do
21:04 <Lucifer> I'm sure it doesn't, but they provide a self-service storefront that we can use
21:04 <Lucifer> regular print shops are almost always much better than cafepress, but we'd have to order the shirts and handle the store/selling ourselves
21:05 <Lucifer> and let's face it, that means someone has to put time into it, and most of us need to get paid for the time, and our community isn't big enough to support that kind of effort
21:05 <Lucifer> but if you guys want to do it on your own, I certainly can't stop you :)
21:06 <apparition> if someone would be willing to do it, they could get paid easily
21:06 <apparition> would you pay 10 bux for a shirt?
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21:06 <Lucifer> if the shirts sell, certainly.  I'm telling you they won't sell quickly enough to be worth the effort.  If someone's willing to volunteer their time to do it, then it's feasible
21:07 <Lucifer> and yes, I'd pay 10 bucks for a shirt
21:07 <Lucifer> if I had it, of course
21:07 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
21:07 <Lucifer> Hell, I'd pay 20 if I knew the project was going to use the money
21:07 <apparition> we do any size order though, that's the thing. we wouldn't have to buy a shit load to make it worth it
21:07 <PinkTomato> how can you break even for with $10 Oo
21:07 <apparition> we would make money off of selling them for ten bones
21:07 <Lucifer> heh, most of the time shirts that sell for less than $15 are being subsidized somehow
21:07 <apparition> i'm telling you, my company is gooooood
21:08 <@BabyBug> pikey, buy the shirts for $5, print for $3, sell for $10
21:08 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m380436d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:08 <@BabyBug> PinkTomato**
21:08 <Lucifer> we're not questioning that your company is good :)
21:08 <Lucifer> that's only $2 profit per shirt
21:08 <@BabyBug> and/
21:08 <Lucifer> now, say it takes 5 minutes of time to pack and ship an order and process the payment
21:08 <Lucifer> pay that guy $8/hour for it
21:09 <Lucifer> *IF* we get 12 orders per hour, we make...
21:09 <Lucifer> #math calc 2*12
21:09 <@armabot> Lucifer: 24
21:09 <Lucifer> duh
21:09 <@BabyBug> lol
21:09 <apparition> lol
21:09 <Lucifer> we pay him 8 and keep 16
21:10  * Lucifer thinks it'll take more than 5 minutes per shirt, however
21:10 <Lucifer> although, you do just print the address and stuff it in an envelope
21:10 <luke-jr> Lucifer: TWG?
21:11 <apparition> 50 one color ink shirts would be $5 a shirt printed.
21:11 <Lucifer> oh right, commissions
21:12 <apparition> plus i could get way more off because it'd be through me
21:12 <Lucifer> paypal takes what, 8%?
21:12 <Lucifer> and shipping overseas, eek
21:12 <PinkTomato> selling it in dollars would be bad in current exchange rates.
21:12 <PinkTomato> abuse your spending power
21:12 <apparition> we could some american shirts and euro shirts, it'd be sweet
21:13 <Lucifer> indeed, we'd have to be willing to sell in EUD and lbs as well
21:13 <Lucifer> paypal takes it, so we can let them handle it, but they charge for the conversion
21:13 <Lucifer> and ultimately, I believe the arma paypal account is in USD, but could be wrong (have to ask guru3)
21:13 <PinkTomato> I think the rate is pretty good though
21:13 <PinkTomato> you can add currencies to paypal
21:13 <PinkTomato> I think
21:14 <Lucifer> well, we could sit on it until we think the exchange rate is the best it'll get and then do the deed, but that's speculating
21:14 <PinkTomato> apparition: 50 t-shirts assorted size?
21:14 <Lucifer> happy to do it, but not happy to depend on it
21:14 <Lucifer> sizing would also be something of an issue, we'd need to provide enough sizes for the people who will order
21:14 <apparition> 50 shirts any size
21:14 <Lucifer> there will be leftovers in particular sizes
21:15 <apparition> we could get a sign ups for shirts going
21:15 <apparition> order the exact number of sized shirts, plus normal excess for future
21:15 <Lucifer> why not just get a sign up going for one print run, split the cost, and maybe a little extra to paypal over to guru3?
21:16 <Lucifer> then you can just order exactly what people want
21:16 <Lucifer> instead of running it as a money-making venture, run it as a group of friends going in together on it
21:18 <apparition> then it'd be $5 per shirt per person
21:18 <apparition> or whatevs
21:18 <Lucifer> you'll have to consider shipping to individuals, of course
21:19 <Lucifer> and $5 is dirt cheap for a t-shirt
21:19 <apparition> totally
21:19 <Lucifer> but see, let's say you managed to get like 50 people to do it
21:20 <Lucifer> that would tell us there's something resembling a market, and maybe we should consider a more permanent arrangement of some kind :)
21:20 <Lucifer> I would want a white shirt that I could tie-dye
21:20 <Lucifer> and if you wait until I have a job, I'd be willing to pitch in for a shirt ;)
21:20 <apparition> perfect, we sell tie dye shirts hah
21:21 -!- pikey [n=pikey@ce21.osiedle.net.pl] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
21:21 <Lucifer> but a cool design is a cool design, heh  ;)
21:22 <Lucifer> are the forums down?
21:22 <@BabyBug> yes
21:22 <sinewav> looks like it
21:22 <Lucifer> guru3: ping
21:30 <apparition> give me a non-USA postcode, someone
21:31 <Lucifer> 78729
21:31 <Lucifer> B)
21:31 <PinkTomato> BN23 7QR
21:31 <PinkTomato> Wait
21:32 <PinkTomato> That was stupid
21:32 <PinkTomato> ^^
21:33 <apparition> luci, what country
21:33 <Lucifer> Republic of Texas :)
21:33 <sinewav> cafe
21:33 <@BabyBug> lol PinkTomato you twit
21:34  * Lucifer doesn't understand PinkTomato's joke
21:34 <PinkTomato> I know! *grumbles*
21:34 <@BabyBug> Lucifer, That's his postcode, i.e he just told everyone where he lives
21:34 <PinkTomato> That's a postcode, which I should have thought about before I pressed enter
21:34 <Lucifer> does it tell even which specific house he lives in?
21:34 <Lucifer> postcodes in the US only give an area
21:34 <@BabyBug> ~15 houses per postcode usually
21:35 <PinkTomato> It gives a close idea
21:35 <Lucifer> ah, zip codes in the US are for a much larger area than that ;)
21:35 <@BabyBug> lol
21:39 <PinkTomato> Zip codes seem illogical
21:39 <Lucifer> how's that?
21:39 <@BabyBug> They're american
21:39 <@BabyBug> Need there be any other explanation? =)
21:40 <Lucifer> maybe on your little island it doesn't make sense, but we have a very large area to cover
21:40 <Lucifer> hell, Texas by itself is bigger than your "Kingdom"  ;)
21:40 <apparition> to ship one shirt over to the UK it would cost like $4-6 USD
21:40 <PinkTomato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZIP_Code_zones.svg
21:40 <PinkTomato> That's confusing :)
21:41 <Lucifer> that file only shows the first few digits
21:41 <Lucifer> see, my zip code is 78729
21:41 <PinkTomato> that's because it gets worse as you go down
21:41 <Lucifer> that svg file says 75-79 are in texas
21:42 <Lucifer> then, on top of that, there is an optional 4-digit code you can add to the zip code that zeroes in on a much smaller area, probably like your 15 house postcode
21:42 <apparition> now the arma site isn't loadin
21:42 <@BabyBug> guru3, Epic Pings!
21:42 <Lucifer> guru3: if you don't get the forums answering soon, BabyBug may never speak to you again
21:42 <Lucifer> guru3: so I recommend waiting
21:42 <@BabyBug> oh you bitch
21:42 <@BabyBug> lmao
21:43 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I suppose it doesn't need to make sense to me, only to the postal company
21:43 <Lucifer> company?  It's a federal service :)
21:43 <@BabyBug> not here it's not!
21:43 <Lucifer> there are private shipping companies too, but the baseline federal service is quite good on its own
21:44 <@BabyBug> here it's a private company which has a license
21:44 <@BabyBug> i think..
21:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I think too
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21:45 <PinkTomato> Public Limited Company
21:45 <@BabyBug> what do we do when the Royal Mail goes bust =(
21:45 <PinkTomato> At £13 to send a 1KG abroad I doubt they will
21:45 <@BabyBug> lol
21:46 <Lucifer> for some reason it makes sense to use a unit of force to measure how much it costs to send a unit of mass somewhere
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21:48 <@BabyBug> PinkTomato, how's your php thingy doing? =D
21:50 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I wrote a few bits :)
21:51 <PinkTomato> You can create teams now :)
21:51 <@BabyBug> You haven't pushed!
21:51 <@BabyBug> :P
21:51 <PinkTomato> well you can't join teams yet..
21:51 <@BabyBug> bzr commit;bzr push! *growls* xD
21:53 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you better push BabyBug
21:53  * PinkTomato push!
21:53 <PinkTomato> and pushed :)
21:53  * BabyBug pushes Lucifer off a cliff
21:53 <Lucifer> heh
21:53  * Lucifer is hungry
21:54  * Lucifer is out of rolled cigarettes
21:54 <@BabyBug> ..
21:54 <@BabyBug> You said you were gonna quit!
21:55 <Lucifer> I am gonna quit
21:55 <@BabyBug> no more cigarettes starting from now!
21:55 <Lucifer> but then I have no excuse for taking a long walk
21:55 -!- lis is now known as Lizmatic
21:55 <Lucifer> listening to music on the walk, etc
21:55  * Lizmatic offers Lucifer a cigarette
21:56 <@BabyBug> Lizmatic! ffs!
21:56 <Lucifer> maybe grabbing a bite to eat, because I'm fucking hungry
21:56 <Lucifer> of course, then I'd just eat junk food, and I don't want to do that
21:56 <Lucifer> hmmmm
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22:18 <Lizmatic> appa..
22:18 <Lizmatic> what's this about nobody showing up?
22:20 <Lizmatic> apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, !
22:22 <apparition_> here
22:23 <apparition_> i got emails from some people, and most people aren't sure they're coming
22:23 <apparition_> so, if we don't have enough to compete, we'll just join other teams as subs
22:23 <apparition_> whatever
22:23 <PinkTomato> Is that fort brawl?
22:23 <apparition_> yeah
22:23 <PinkTomato> Hmm, I think we lost one member for sure,
22:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
22:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o BabyBug] by guru3
22:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
22:30 <BabyBug> lol guru3 meanie =(
22:30 <PinkTomato> How do I pass an array of array's to a function in PHP, please :)?
22:30 <BabyBug> lol PinkTomato what?
22:30 <guru3> function name($argument)
22:30 <guru3> and then $argument = array(array());
22:31 <sinewav> that's so easy!
22:31 <PinkTomato> ah I Didn't have this in the function: $argument = array(array()); thanks :)
22:31 <guru3> that would be before the function
22:32 <guru3> if you do that in it you'll just reset the contents of what you passed to the function
22:32 <PinkTomato> Ah,
22:32 <guru3> there's no typecasting to functions in php
22:32 <PinkTomato> I thought it would do,
22:32 <guru3> so you have to make sure you start out with the right variable
22:32 <PinkTomato> so as it can't tell what the variable type is, it errors the function
22:32 <PinkTomato> I suppose this is why I should declare my variables before.
22:32 <guru3> no, it probably errors because you're passing it the wrong variable accidentally
22:32 <PinkTomato> :)
22:33 <guru3> try print_r($argument) inside the function to make sure it's what you think it is
22:33 <guru3> and then double check your function code to make sure it's doing what you think it should be
22:33 <PinkTomato> right.
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22:35 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Do you have this PHP code running anywhere?
22:35 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://armaserv.ath.cx is at revision 1
22:36 <guru3> looks exciting
22:36 <PinkTomato> guru3: It was a stupid typo
22:36 <PinkTomato> guru3: Hehe, needs a webdesigner
22:39 <guru3> that i don't do
22:40 <BabyBug> No php coders are web designers..Yet they always seem to -try- and do the design work!
22:40 <guru3> and that's how i wind up with shit like my website
22:41 <PinkTomato> I was about to say I would try to do some :D
22:41 <BabyBug> lol ^^
22:41 <guru3> the thing is, websites with javascript _always_ impress people
22:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, You really may want too look into a cleaner way of outputting the HTML before you develop it too far aswell
22:42 <BabyBug> Instead of doing stuff like this: echo("<form action='updatesetting.php' method='POST'>"); ><
22:42 <BabyBug> look in eval() =)
22:42 <BabyBug> into*
22:42 <PinkTomato> Yeah, that's a good idea, I'm going to figure out this templating stuff too
22:43 <guru3> i hate that stuff
22:43 <guru3> my systems always seem to be crap
22:43 <BabyBug> lol
22:43 <guru3> really, quite impressively bad
22:44 <BabyBug> All a templating system needs to do is seperate logic from display
22:44 <BabyBug> Is it possible to make that bad? :P
22:44  * Lizmatic hides from the neRd talk
22:44 <PinkTomato> So how would I do it? $pageOutputBody .=, and then include template.php?
22:44 <guru3> it's actually quite complcated when you start thinking about it
22:44 <guru3> PinkTomato: what about the page header? menu?
22:45 <BabyBug> guru3, no it's not shh =P
22:45 <guru3> how do you seperate it and keep it organized depending on what page is servered?
22:45 <PinkTomato> template.php -> include template.header.php?
22:45 <guru3> not header in that sence
22:45 <guru3> the <title> tag
22:45 <guru3> is within stuff that would generally be in a template
22:46 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, there's two ways you can do it. Either using include, or by using eval()
22:46 <PinkTomato> eval looks scary
22:46 <BabyBug> I prefer creating a wrapper for the eval() function
22:46 <guru3> eval... seems like a ginat security hole
22:47 <BabyBug> lol guru3 ><
22:47 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
22:47 <guru3> z-man: tell BabyBug it's true
22:47 <BabyBug> z-man, tell guru3 it's false
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22:48 <z-man> What I say is false.
22:48 <BabyBug> smart arse
22:49 <guru3> clever
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22:54  * BabyBug kicks guru3 and z-man 
22:54 <BabyBug> evil people
22:54 <PinkTomato> why so?
22:55 <BabyBug> cause i said so
23:05 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I designed my own website....
23:05 <BabyBug> Lucifer, exactly
23:06 <BabyBug> lol
23:07 <Lucifer> heh, I get people telling me it's nice most of the time
23:07 <Lucifer> er, looks nice
23:07 <Lucifer> of course, it's not written in php....
23:08 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you did notice she called two of three Evil Triumvirii "evil", right?
23:10 <apparition_> are the forums up?
23:10 <BabyBug> yesh
23:10 <Lucifer> looks like it
23:10 <apparition_> k, i'll post about shirts
23:10 <PinkTomato> Triumvirii :)?
23:10 <apparition_> peas out
23:11 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that is the correct form of that word, right?
23:11  * Lucifer doesn't know latin
23:11  * PinkTomato does not know latin either
23:11 <Lucifer> I thought all you europeans knew latin
23:11 <Lucifer> evidently the romans need to conquer you again
23:12 <Lizmatic> do americans even know what 'latin' is?
23:12 <Lizmatic> they probably think of latin-america
23:12 <BabyBug> only one i on the end though Lucifer
23:12 <Lucifer> americans are confused, because they use 'latino' to refer to people descended from the rape of native americans by spaniards
23:13 <Lizmatic> americans are always confused!
23:13 <Lucifer> BabyBug: for the plural?
23:13 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it means 3 men :P
23:13 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: that's because I spread confusion everywhere I go, and I'm in America :)
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23:13 <Lucifer> I try to tell people I'm 'latino' because I have Italian ancestors
23:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, triumviri itself means 3 men, How is there a plural of that? =P
23:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: beats me, all's I know is that it's typically only used in the context of a conspiracy or power-sharing deal (i.e. Caesar and his two friends)
23:14 <Lucifer> oh yeah
23:14 <Lucifer> z-man: the second triumvirate was successful, wasn't it?  It was Augustus and his two friends (whose names I've forgotten)
23:15 <z-man> Depends on how you define successful, I guess.
23:15 <z-man> History was never one of my strong points :)
23:15 <Lucifer> well, Caesar and his friends failed, he got murdered on the senate floor instead of crowned emperor
23:15 <Lucifer> but Augustus, who was Caesar's son iirc, was successfully crowned Emperor
23:16 <Lucifer> then he managed to defeat Marc Antony and kept the empire from falling apart
23:16 <z-man> Yeah, that's what I meant. That means the triumvirate was not stable.
23:16 <z-man> It got Augustus what he wanted, though.
23:16 <Lucifer> ah, I thought the purpose of the second triumvirate was to crown Augustus, I don't recall Marc Antony being one of them
23:16 <z-man> I don't remember.
23:17 <Lucifer> maybe I should look it up, Marc Antony might have been one of the triumvirs
23:17 <Lizmatic> this discussion makes me want to see Gladiator again for some reason o_O
23:17 <Lucifer> because you like watching muscular men sweat and beat on each other?
23:18 <Lizmatic> it's like you can read my mind, man
23:20 <Lizmatic> the part where he sees his wife and kid hung is pretty funny
23:21 <Lucifer> ah, the second triumvirate lasted for 10 years at least, it looks like
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23:32 <Lucifer> z-man: well, if we're going to go the fate of the second triumvirate, then I'd like to be Marc Antony, so I can sleep with the richest woman in the world
23:33 <z-man> Rich and beatiful.
23:33 <Lizmatic> marc anthony is with j lo again?
23:33 <Lucifer> right, whatever, as long as I get to sleep with cleopatra
23:33 <Lucifer> :)
23:34 <Lucifer> it means I"ll lose the civil war, but that's fine
23:34 <z-man> That time machine project is still incomplete, unfortunately.
23:34 <Lucifer> maybe you should switch to python?
23:34 <Lucifer> wait, can't we just use bzr to roll back to a parallel universe?
23:34 <z-man> import continuummodifier
23:35 <Lucifer> but if we get there and find out that cleopatra is BabyBug, we'll have to rethink this whole thing
23:37 <BabyBug> i'm who now?
23:37 <sinewav> greek?
23:37  * z-man facepalms
23:37  * sinewav kind of has a thing for greek women
23:38 <Lizmatic> cleopatra is greek? o_O
23:38 <sinewav> duh
23:38 <Lizmatic> shut up
23:39 <sinewav> sorry
23:39  * Lizmatic goes to download Gladiator, doesn't need any of you.. has muscly pecks!..eh..yeah.
23:39 <Concord> #seen whatup
23:39 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen whatup.
23:39 <Concord> #seen TwelveHundred
23:39 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen TwelveHundred.
23:39 <z-man> I should probably get my Wii to play video files properly.
23:40 <Concord> z-man, any chance that arma would see some new default textures to with tr2n?
23:40 <Concord> could make the game more appealing to new fans
23:41 <z-man> Sure. But don't expect them to be similar to the movie :)
23:41 <Concord> ;) hehe
23:43 <sinewav> No one has nay idea what tr2n will look like!
23:43 <sinewav> or I would do it myseslf
23:43 <Concord> there is a short sneak preview on youtube
23:43 <Concord> I made attempt when filming the tronic add
23:43 <sinewav> saw it 100 times. not actually part of the movie
23:44 <Concord> oh, anyway the ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlD9AnCADZI
23:44 <Concord> but, maybe just a general modernization of the textures, mostly the wall texture, sky
23:47 <sinewav> your textures look pretty cool. I've been thinking a lot about textures lately.
23:47 <sinewav> I won't have time to make any for a few more weeks though
23:47 <Concord> thnx, took me like 20 min, but
23:48 <Concord> I'm going to give it another go this weekend, or maybe tonight, depending on whats going on ingame
23:48 <sinewav> ;)
23:50 <Concord> ;)
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