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Log from 2009-01-08:
--- Day changed Thu Jan 08 2009
00:04 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has joined #armagetron
00:04 <nsh22> hey smooth
00:06 <smoothice> nsh22; hi.... you are?
00:06 <nsh22> neal
00:06 <smoothice> ah... ok... hi
00:06 <nsh22> i ended my server
00:07 <nsh22> . H . e . l . l . o . nsh22 . H . e . l . l . o .
00:07 <nsh22> lol
00:07 <nsh22>  ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Hello nsh22  ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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00:07 <nsh22> x\xxxxxx\xxxxxxx\xxxx\x8 nsh22 \xxxg
00:07 <nsh22> xx\xxxxxx*xxxxxxx*xxxx\* nsh22 x\x...m
00:07 <nsh22> xxx*xSweetxxxxxDreamsx *  nsh22 x*xc
00:07 <nsh22> ???
00:07 <nsh22> ... ((( nsh22 ))) ... nsh22 gives nsh22 a happy to see ya hug! ... ((( nsh22 ))) ...
00:08 <nsh22> 'P'Ô'ü'Ñ'Ç'ë' nsh22 Tackles nsh22 in a great BIG hug!! 'P'Ô'ü'Ñ'Ç'ë'
00:08 <smoothice> nsh22: why ended?
00:08 <nsh22> becaue i dont like the host. i think the install was bad on it and there was barely any configs
00:08 <nsh22> want something??! MtDew !..!Sprite!..! COke~..! 7°UP !..... ! Pepsi !... Diet ...!Dr.Pepr!...!Grape!...!RtBeer!...!Bud !....... !Bud lite!....!COORS®!
00:08 <smoothice> what host?
00:08 <nsh22> dragonservers
00:08 <smoothice> o
00:09 <smoothice> ok
00:09 <nsh22> . H . e . l . l . o . smoothice . H . e . l . l . o .
00:09 <Flex> z-man, i don't think she's demanding for a lock, i don't see that anywhere.. i think she's requesting one so to speak.
00:09 <Flex> doesn't need a lock, you're right
00:10 <z-man> yeah, I was just formulating it that way for emphasis :)
00:10 <Flex> so it looks bad? you evil person
00:11 <Flex> jk, but yes it's an x internal affair.. but the server was hijacked by epsy so this isn't x server we're talking about anymore, i think
00:11 <Flex> i made a post!
00:14 <nsh22> nice
00:15 <Flex> wrtlprnft needs to make it clear and resolve this issue, because i don't think we all know exactly who's server it is anymore, so we're arguing over rights that might not be ours faily. if that's the case, then we'll stop everything and whoever is in charge can say the final say and we'll move on. with that said, then if epsy believes he owns the server, it shouldn't be labeled as x server.
00:15 <Flex> because it's clearly creating these types of drama..
00:18 <PinkTomato> why did english become the preferred language?
00:18 <PinkTomato> (of the world)
00:18  * madmax loves tron drama
00:18 <PinkTomato> it is too irregular
00:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, The british empire? (guess)
00:19 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Yeah, my/our fault i guess :)
00:19 <Flex> english is for stupid people, i prefer Mandarin
00:19  * BabyBug isn't British
00:19 <PinkTomato> thats why i made it a choice :)
00:20 <PinkTomato> To be fair, wales had no power when britian did what it did.
00:20 <Flex> what is wales?
00:20 <PinkTomato> Flex: I would like to learn mandarian if it wasn't so bloody difficult! :D
00:22 <BabyBug> Wales is a country...
00:22 <smoothice> prove it
00:22 <PinkTomato> go to maps.google.com
00:22 <nsh22> lol
00:22 <smoothice> lol
00:22 <PinkTomato> scroll right a bit
00:22 <Flex> maps.google.com, says no
00:22 <smoothice> #myip
00:23 <@armabot> smoothice:
00:23 <smoothice> muahahaha
00:23 <PinkTomato> umm...
00:23  * nsh22 hacks smooths ip and puts hi on the screen
00:23 <PinkTomato> well wales is a country
00:23 <PinkTomato> Just accept it :)
00:24 <smoothice> nah
00:24 <smoothice> lol
00:24 <nsh22> it WAS a country, it is now part of Great Britain so therefore part of the united kingdom
00:24  * smoothice mehs at nsh22
00:24 <BabyBug> wrong nsh22
00:24 <PinkTomato> A Kingdom is a group of countries
00:24 <nsh22> lol
00:25 <PinkTomato> The whole United bit
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00:25 <nsh22> im not up on my british history (even tho we are part of the commonwealth
00:25 <PinkTomato> You need more than one country to be united :)
00:25 <Flex> Lizmatic, wo ai ni, mei yi ye.
00:25 <BabyBug> Wales is not part of the UK!
00:25 <smoothice> nsh22: commonwealth schmmonwealth
00:25 <nsh22> i agree
00:26 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: How is it not?
00:26 <Flex> Gu dan de wo, xiang nian shui, shui ming bai?
00:26 <BabyBug> Proof ---> http://www2.meridiantv.com/itvlocal_docs/uploads/flags.jpg
00:26 <BabyBug> xD
00:26 <smoothice> nsh22: prove it
00:26  * nsh22 is referncing the post on arma
00:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: OK, you have a fair point :)
00:27 <BabyBug> ^^
00:27 <BabyBug> and we were missed out on the map of europe that one time =x
00:27 <Flex> that part of UK, simply belongs to England..
00:27 <Flex> wasn't even a fight
00:27 <smoothice> PinkTomato: no response from vaserv :/
00:28 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Like I said, just go for it ;)
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00:28 <nsh22> 6 ppl so far are joining the tronic bowl (acccording to my fb group)
00:28 <PinkTomato> only 250 to go
00:28 <nsh22> lol
00:28 <PinkTomato> i won't Join a facebook group, then you would be able to see my face ;)
00:28 <nsh22> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=34135542763
00:28 <nsh22> go join
00:29 <nsh22> NOW lol
00:29 <nsh22> jkjk
00:29 <nsh22> lol then join the event
00:29 <nsh22> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=43719975797
00:30 <smoothice> meh
00:30 <nsh22> or do what i did and change my pic to a cartoon
00:30 <PinkTomato> but then you'll still see my face...
00:30 <nsh22> ^
00:30 <nsh22> ||
00:30 <PinkTomato> But then people will think I'm a cartoon
00:30 <nsh22> so? we play a cartoon
00:30 <nsh22> ho wmany players are going to be in this?
00:31 <nsh22> nvm, 512
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01:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: that's basically what I told taz too
01:11 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I'ld be suprised if you had a facebook by will :)
01:12 <nsh22> lke, did u seee codehunters control panel?
01:12 <nsh22> luke*
01:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, and he claims he's just a happy customer, not the hoster
01:14 <nsh22> ya i saw that
01:14 <luke-jr> and for the record, he did make good on the $20
01:15 <nsh22> i deactivated my server and changed my info just incase he does have access to my info
01:15 <nsh22> oh well thats good
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01:15 <nsh22> finnally shamed him into it?
01:20 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: did you reach a resolution though?
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01:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yeah
01:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: nah, supposedly he changed his mind on his own
01:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: he sent me $40 for some reason; I refunded haldf
01:31 <luke-jr> taz implied/said he's trying to do some kind of reform
01:31 <PinkTomato> ah I see :)
01:31 <luke-jr> he made good, so I'm ok with that
01:40 <nsh22> ya taz keeps  saying hes changing t6o a better person
01:40  * nsh22 has ate untill he feels sick, again
01:44 <smoothice> nsh22: lol
01:46 <Concord> lol
01:57 <Concord> pinktomato you still around tonight
01:58 <PinkTomato> For about 10mins to an hour :)
01:59 <Concord> ok, cya there, is it on the master list, or private?
01:59 <PinkTomato> Ah, did you want me to set it up the rotation now? or just test the settings?
02:00 <Concord> just test the settings
02:00 <PinkTomato> OK :). copying settings now
02:01 <Concord> okiedokie
02:01 <Concord> :I
02:01 <Concord> no capital I, ah
02:01 <smoothice> Who says okiedokie anymore?
02:01 <smoothice> lol
02:02  * Concord does
02:02  * smoothice says "Ok... w/e"
02:02 <Concord> okiedokie thats swell
02:02  * ct|kyle says okiedokie
02:02  * smoothice meh
02:02 <ct|kyle> :P
02:02 <Concord> looks like you are the only fellow around these parts that does not
02:03 <smoothice> nsh22 doesn't
02:03 <Concord> 1nd thing 2st
02:04 <smoothice> 3st
02:04 <smoothice> lol
02:04 <smoothice> 3rd
02:04 <smoothice> 3st
02:04 <Concord> 9rd
02:04 <Concord> 9rd=nerd
02:04 <Concord> 2th=tooth
02:04 <smoothice> LOL!
02:04 <Concord> 4st=forest
02:04 <smoothice> 4est
02:04 <Concord> fourst
02:04 <Concord> eh
02:04 <ct|kyle> have them pick from a list randomly
02:05 <ct|kyle> once picked take it out, reset the list at EOM
02:05 <smoothice> #alias add fourest say 4st!
02:05 <ct|kyle> or start of Round 1
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:05 <smoothice> #fourest
02:05 <@armabot> 4st!
02:05 <Concord> #alias add forest say 4st
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <Concord> #forest
02:06 <@armabot> 4st
02:06 <smoothice> #alias remove fourest
02:06 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <smoothice> #fourest
02:06 <Concord> #alias add nerd say 9rd
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <Concord> #alias add tooth say 2th
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06  * PinkTomato does not understand what you are doing.
02:06 <smoothice> #alias add TheCord say that's Concord
02:06 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:07 <smoothice> #TheCord
02:07 <@armabot> that's Concord
02:07 <Concord> lol
02:07 <PinkTomato> @i18n tooth. Isn't it already exist?
02:07 <teabot> PinkTomato: t4. I3t it a5y e4?
02:07 <Concord> you #nerd
02:07 <smoothice> #nerd you are, Concord!
02:07 <@armabot> 9rd
02:07 <Concord> it has to be first eh?
02:07 <Concord> anyway. . .
02:07 <smoothice> yeah
02:08 <PinkTomato> Concord: Sorry, I was copying the wrong files
02:08 <smoothice> #alias add YouAreANerd You are a nerd, $1.
02:08 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:08 <smoothice> #YouAreANerd Concord
02:08 <smoothice> #YouAreANerd Concord
02:08 <Concord> lol, np we can just try, later if you have to go
02:09 <nsh22> wtf did i miss
02:09 <smoothice> lol
02:12 <Concord> not much
02:13 <PinkTomato> #sd "S P O R K"
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02:16 <PinkTomato> #sd S%20P%20O%20R%20K
02:16 <PinkTomato> Concord: up and running :)
02:16 <PinkTomato> armabot is just being stroppy with me
02:17 <Concord> kk whats it called
02:17 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
02:17 <PinkTomato> S P O R K
02:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 46 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Birdy's Nest (Oddest Version Of Loose DF) (7/8), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d (2 more messages)
02:18 <ct|kyle> #si S P O R K
02:18 <@armabot> ct|kyle: S P O R K: Players (1/26): Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums)
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02:19 <ct|kyle> Concord: ^^
02:19 <Concord> kk
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02:24 <nsh22> wher3 r we meeting concord
02:24 <Concord> pink tomatoes spork server, is where i am atm
02:25 <Lucifer> guru3: heh, no, lock it when it degenerates into a big-time flame war, but it probably won't
02:25 <nsh22> kk ill be ther ub a while
02:26 <Concord> kk
02:27 <ct|kyle> it's gone far enough for the dr to get a call though :D
02:28 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: !
02:28 <PinkTomato> :)
02:28 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: ?
02:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: u know I see email long before forum PM
02:29 <Lucifer> hey, in that thread where you were talking about alpha2, your problems installing, were they from the tarball?
02:29 <PinkTomato> sorry for my rudeness, I tested your patch,
02:30 <PinkTomato> it seemed that the input was ahead of graphics?
02:30 <PinkTomato> I need to test that on 0.2.8, sounds like a rubbish machine i was using
02:30 <PinkTomato> Regarding windows build, I used Bzr.
02:31 <PinkTomato> Compiling the release version failed
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02:31 <PinkTomato> had the underscore problem i said earlier
02:31 <PinkTomato> but the debug did not have this, so couldn't make a check
02:32 <Lucifer> ah, afaik, nobody's updated the 0.3.1 branch for the windows build
02:32 <Lucifer> I can't yet because I can't run the makedist.bat file (or any batch file) in wine
02:33 <PinkTomato> yeah, I had to add files, and I couldn't get the versioning correct
02:33 <PinkTomato> but it was compiling so i was happy :)
02:33 <Lucifer> there's two new files added that might make the windows build break anyway
02:33 <Lucifer> camview :)
02:33 <PinkTomato> camview worked :)
02:34 <Lucifer> I'm considering finding a pirated windows to put in a vm and see what I can come up with
02:34 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe camview has been added to the project and I didn't notice it?  ;)
02:34  * Lucifer didn't read his commit emails yet
02:35 <Lucifer> oh hell, I"m not reading those commit emails, I'll look at the log instead
02:37 <Lucifer> heh
02:39 <nsh22> hey lucife
02:41 <Lucifer> hi nsh22 (hi there!)
02:41 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: does it sound wierd to you that the debug hasen't got a fault?
02:41 <nsh22> howdid the recruiter go today?
02:41 <Lucifer> debug build in windows?
02:41 <PinkTomato> the debug build is fine
02:41 <Lucifer> nsh22: didn't happen, I managed to sleep in until really late for no good reason
02:41 <PinkTomato> release is what fails
02:41 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: the debug build IN WINDOWS?
02:41 <nsh22> oh
02:41 <nsh22> that sucks
02:42 <PinkTomato> Sorry, duidn't make that clear, talking windows at the moment
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: yeah, I felt dumb waking up at 5pm
02:42 <nsh22> 5pm ? when u go to bed?
02:42 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: heh, I had to clarify it, I've seen too many people refer to an alpha package as a debug build ;)
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: 4am
02:42 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
02:42 <nsh22> thats.... 11 hours
02:43 <Lucifer> Umm, I don't know why there would be a difference, but the one you noted is a where input seems to happen way before you see it graphically?
02:43 <Lucifer> that sounds like you might need to fool with gl settings
02:43 <Lucifer> glFlush comes to mind, I don't remember where the option is
02:43 <nsh22> are you going to see him tomorrow?
02:44 <Lucifer> but see, it's an unstable release, so we might want to release it as a debug build anyway so we can get backtraces :)
02:44 <Lucifer> nsh22: don't know, I'm going to use my telephone tomorrow
02:44 <Lucifer> why are you so concerned with what I do for work?  heh
02:44 <PinkTomato> It was 40MB big :), not excactly host friendly :)
02:44 <nsh22> ok. well, gl
02:44  * Lucifer also woke up to an email expressing interest in my resume
02:44 <nsh22> i dunno
02:45 <nsh22> i r very borred atm. i have two choice, do french homework or ramble on in irc and team speak
02:52 <Concord> neal, I can play now, or later, I only have 23 min remaining on battery, but I'll have more later
02:53 <nsh22> ok
02:53 <Concord> ok to what?
02:53 <nsh22> to playing
02:53 <Concord> now?
02:53 <nsh22> sure
02:53 <Concord> kk
02:54 <nsh22> where? spork?
02:55 <Concord> pink tomatos fortress
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03:15 <dlh> damn I hate sed
03:15 <ct|kyle> #bzr
03:15 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
03:17 <Lucifer> dlh: I reverted the version script and just pushed it
03:17 <Lucifer> it's only needed to generate reasonable version numbers for bzr builds, we don't need it to work right for 0.3.1, at least
03:17 <Lucifer> we don't need epsy's changes in 0.3.1, we need it to work like the older version :)
03:18 <dlh> Yeah, it was a bad time to make that change
03:18 <Lucifer> so whenever it doesn't work again (because somebody will probably merge the broken trunk version back to it)
03:18 <Lucifer> heh, not so much a bad time to make it, more like a change made badly
03:18 <Lucifer> epsy's fixed it like 3 times now, and it still doesn't work
03:20 <dlh> where did you push it to, 0.3.1?
03:20 <Lucifer> yeah, that's all I'm working with right now
03:20 <Lucifer> it's revision 766
03:24 <Lucifer> that script really needs to be rewritten in python, I think
03:24 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
03:24 <Lucifer> the windows batch file still needs to be updated, and I'd just as soon move all of our build shell scripts to python scripts
03:25 <dlh> Lucifer: i was thinking the same thing
03:25 <Lucifer> so that we don't need separate bash/bat scripts
03:25 <dlh> too much to juggle all the differences between gnu/other toolchains too.
03:25 <Lucifer> yeah :)
03:26 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: what is the difference between file.THIS file.OTHER and file.BASE when bzr merge has errors
03:26 <ct|kyle> (hi there)
03:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: beats me
03:26 <Lucifer> one is the old file, one the file you have, and one is probably a copy of the file with the conflicts marked
03:27 <Lucifer> the current file will have the conflicts marked with >>>>>>>>>>>>>  and <<<<<<<<<<<<<
03:28 <dlh> You should have a LEFT and RIGHT version. Use a gui tool to merge the changes. It is easier to visualize that way.
03:29 <Lucifer> mac users and their gui tools....
03:29 <ct|kyle> ya i'musing gui tool just don't know where to put changes are what should be the final code
03:29 <dlh> or you can use emacs
03:29 <dlh> :)
03:29 <ct|kyle> ya I read that
03:29 <dlh> but FileMerge.app is nice
03:29 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
03:29  * Lucifer just wants the conflict syntax highlighted
03:30 <ct|kyle> it must be .BASE that you put the changes into
03:33 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going to rewrite the sortresources shell script to a python script and eliminate it
03:33 <Lucifer> then makedist.bat will become a python script too ;)
03:33  * Lucifer wants to build a windows release with wine
03:33 <ct|kyle> heh
03:34 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game || Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure
03:35 <dlh> er...
03:35 <Lucifer> what's broke now?  ;)
03:36 <BabyBug> packages worked ok Lucifer =)
03:36 <Lucifer> BabyBug: cool, thanks :)
03:37 <Lucifer> so you're not getting the crash in the server browser that you get when you build from source?
03:37 <BabyBug> I can't build from source. configure checks to make sure you're NOT running the release candidate now
03:37 <Lucifer> I find the biggest problem in writing utility scripts is figuring out what to name them
03:38 <Lucifer> no, I mean, from when you were able to
03:38 <BabyBug> UtilScript1
03:38 <Lucifer> i.e. no code changes have been made to fix that bug, just that check in configure added to ensure nobody can build it
03:38 <BabyBug> ^^
03:39 <BabyBug> Oh right sorry i misread the question completely
03:39 <BabyBug> No it doesn't crash =)
03:39 <Lucifer> :)  thank you
03:39  * dlh is building 0.3.1 alpha2 now
03:39 <BabyBug> and the characters are displayed correctly aswell
03:39 <Lucifer> that hopefully means that I've successfully linked ftgl statically, so we can worry about that bug some other time
03:40 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to call it copyresources.py
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03:49 <Flex> I'd like to build window releases, but I can't seem to figure it out.. or I would keep it updated.
03:50 <Lucifer> right now the windows build system is missing things
03:50 <Lucifer> as usual, heh
03:50 <Flex> it's been like that a while, i think
03:50 <Lucifer> more than likely, we lost our full-time windows developer some time ago
03:51 <dlh> I'm going to do a date-versioned 0.3.1 release right now. Some things have changed since the 0.3.1_alpha2 tag.
03:51 <Lucifer> ko
03:52 <Lucifer> I'll see if I can make enough changes to where I can build a windows release in wine, then maybe in another day or so we can alpha ffor all three platforms together :)
03:53 <Flex> if you explain how you did it exactly, i can copy and maybe help out.. i wanted to a while ago..
03:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8777 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha20090107.macosx-universal.dmg
03:53 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
03:53 <Flex> right now, there's no proper way to do it, you've just got to figure it out yourself, and when i tried, i failed
03:54 <Lucifer> there is a proper way to do it
03:54 <dlh> I'm glad I automated the release process for aabeta. It is a pain to do it manually.
03:54 <dlh> now if only sourceforge releases could be automated...
03:55 <Flex> it's out dated or something.. i think i had library or something along those lines.
03:55 <Flex> issue^
04:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r768 No tTrueVersion.h when using Xcode. || [0.3.1] r767 Add missing files... || [0.3.1] r766 Reverted to working version of version script
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04:46 <Concord> dlh did you build work
04:46 <dlh> yes, it is on aabeta
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04:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8778 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases_filter.php: Show universal build only if hiding old releases. Don't also show an older ppc build.
04:49 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
04:51 <dlh> Concord: http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3
04:51 <Concord> nice, I got my trunk build to work, don't know if you saw
04:51 <dlh> I did not. :)
04:51 <Concord> thanks for all the help :D
04:53 <dlh> NP. Sorry for all the difficulties. :S
04:54 <Lucifer> grrr, I think I opened a can of worms, heh
04:57 <dlh> with the resource sorting script?
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05:02 <Lucifer> yeah
05:02 <Lucifer> it's not the script itself that's a can of worms
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05:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8780 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases_filter.php: Trying to trigger an aabeta update
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07:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8781 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha20090108.macosx-universal.dmg
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07:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8782 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: removed broken build
07:25 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
08:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r649 Merging with 0.2.8.* r975
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08:40 <Lucifer> epsy: ping
08:40 <epsy> dlh: ping :°
08:41 <epsy> woop, time to run xmodmap
08:41 <Lucifer> xmodmap?
08:42 <epsy> yeah, you know numbers are obtained using shift on a french keyboard?
08:42 <dlh> pong
08:43 <epsy> is bzr out of your $PATH ?
08:43 <dlh> no. that wouldn't be very useful :)
08:43 <Lucifer> heh
08:44 <Lucifer> epsy: would you mind rewriting version as a python script instead?
08:44 <epsy> umm
08:44 <epsy> I pretty much know nothing about python
08:44 <Lucifer> see, there's also an update_version.bat that needs to be updated too
08:45 <epsy> where is it at?
08:45 <Lucifer> win32
08:46 <dlh> The problems with version are because of incompatibilities between different toolchains.
08:49 <Lucifer> #ping
08:49 <@armabot> pong
08:49 <Lucifer> we have a number of problems that are because of incompatibilities between different toolchains
08:50 <Lucifer> many (but not all) of which would be solved by eliminating most/all of the shell scripting in favor of some cross-platform script
08:50 <Lucifer> and since we're already using python in parts of our build system, that's the logical way to go
08:52 <dlh> What is the min version of python we require?
08:52 <dlh> 2.3?
08:52 <Lucifer> afaik
08:52 <dlh> it is pretty backwards-compatible though
08:53 <Lucifer> syntactically we're fine, just not sure of what modules we're using
08:53 <Lucifer> I'm avoiding anything that says "Added in 2.6" at least ;)
08:56 <epsy> so python & bzrlib ?
08:57 <Lucifer> that's a winner for me
08:57 <Lucifer> windows developers will need to install bzr with the python installer, but that's fine
09:24  * guru3 waves
09:41 <Lucifer> \o
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10:35 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
10:40 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game || Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure
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10:54 <MrBougo> armablah?
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11:06 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
11:11 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
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11:26 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || Software Packages in Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex", Subsection Games ... || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
11:31 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game || Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
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13:13 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
13:18 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
13:19 <Flex> @ping
13:19 <teabot> pong
13:20 <ivantis2> #ping
13:20 <@armabot> pong
13:23 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
13:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r770 Added armabuild python module to collect python build stuff ... || [0.3.1] r769 Replaced sortresource shell script with python script
13:34 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
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14:38 <Lizmatic> http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=70
14:41 <MaZuffeR> Lizmatic, http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/
14:41 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress
14:42 <Lizmatic> Mazuffer, oh :/
14:42 <Lizmatic> Flex, idiot!
14:43 <Flex> lol
14:43 <Flex> cool, ok
14:47 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
14:52 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || Software Packages in Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex", Subsection Games ... || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
14:58 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0. Free Full Game || Armagetron v0. Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
14:59 <PinkTomato> post was deleted?
15:00 <Lizmatic> yeah i asked about tst and brawl being on the same date ;p
15:04 <PinkTomato> oops :)
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15:39 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress
15:45 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
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16:22 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
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16:28 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
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16:38 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
16:48 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
17:10 <BabyBug> \o
17:11  * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
17:12  * BabyBug wuddles ct|kyle 
17:13 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
17:13 <PinkTomato> \o
17:13 <ct|kyle> armabot: why do you keep saying that
17:14 <ct|kyle> :P
17:14 <PinkTomato> and I can't click it
17:14 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: updated ct+sty with latest 0.2.8.*
17:14 <BabyBug> That bug's fixed now ct|kyle?
17:14 <PinkTomato> I saw :), thanks :D I'll grab it later :)
17:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no :/ just zone > wall interaction, all it slows down is ctwf :)
17:15 <BabyBug> ahhhhh
17:15 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I'll have to make sure epsy can login with this one
17:16 <PinkTomato> :)
17:17  * Lucifer cuddles ct|kyle
17:17  * BabyBug stabs Lucifer...cheater!
17:18  * ct|kyle points Lucifer to BabyBug to get cuddles
17:18  * Lucifer cuddles BabyBug's knife
17:18 <BabyBug> o.o
17:18 <PinkTomato> ouch
17:18  * Lucifer loves knives
17:18 <PinkTomato> I hate knives
17:18 <PinkTomato> evil things
17:19 <Lucifer> if it's got a blade and I can poke BabyBug with it, I love it
17:19 <BabyBug> knife fantasies are great \o/ :P
17:19 <Lucifer> how about sword fantasies?
17:19  * Lucifer looks around for his sword
17:19 <BabyBug> nah, that's just weird
17:19 <Lucifer> oh
17:20 <Lucifer> I have this weird fantasy involving my fencing foil and, er, I should probably just stop there
17:20 <BabyBug> no no, continue hun :P
17:25 <Lizmatic> I love knives too
17:25 <Lizmatic> knifeplay, lucifer? ;)
17:25 <Lucifer> wouldn't want to hurt the baby :)
17:26 <Lucifer> which also rules out stickplay, sadly
17:26 <Lucifer> I can launch a rocket at you, though
17:27 <Lucifer> I've decided I want to be just like Data
17:27 <Lucifer> the only problem is, I'm already human, so I can't go on a quest to become human
17:27 <Lucifer> and trying to become an android is just silly
17:27 <Lucifer> so I've decided to try to become a cartoon character
17:28 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
17:28 <Lizmatic> you're a weird kind of adult, luci
17:29 <BabyBug> only noticing that now Lizmatic? =P
17:29 <Lucifer> heh, yeah, she's a page behind
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17:48 <ct|kyle> epsy: Ping
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18:03 <PinkTomato> #weather eastbourne, uk
18:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:03 <PinkTomato> #weather brighton, uk
18:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 37.6°F (5:03 PM GMT on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady).
18:03 <PinkTomato> #finc 37.6
18:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 3.11111111111
18:04 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
18:04 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 17.2°F (11:59 AM EST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
18:04 <ct|kyle> colder than i thought
18:04 <PinkTomato> well your much colder than me ;)
18:04 <PinkTomato> so I can't grumble
18:04 <ct|kyle> #finc 17.2
18:04 <@armabot> ct|kyle: -8.22222222222
18:05 <ct|kyle> -5?
18:05 <PinkTomato> -8, I don't even think I have had -8 weather ever
18:05 <ct|kyle> lol
18:05 <PinkTomato> That's in the day too!?
18:05 <PinkTomato> It's dark here
18:05 <ct|kyle> i think as a kid we had -20 F windchills
18:05 <PinkTomato> brrrr!
18:06 <PinkTomato> it is always the wind that makes it cold though
18:06 <ct|kyle> 10-15 years ago (dam i feel old)
18:06 <PinkTomato> the sudden change in temperature
18:06 <ct|kyle> ya
18:13 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
18:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 71.2°F (11:10 AM CST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
18:14 <PinkTomato> In winter?
18:14 <PinkTomato> Texas is hot...
18:15 <Lucifer> our winter hasn't started yet
18:15 <Lucifer> I think it's currently scheduled for next week :)
18:16 <PinkTomato> But temperature's can't fall that much.
18:16 <Lucifer> ummm, yes they can
18:16 <Lucifer> within a few hours, we can go from 71.2 down to 40
18:17 <Lucifer> we usually have several freezing days, and we've already had a few this winter
18:17 <Lucifer> actually, what usually happens is the cold blows in early january and leaves in late february
18:17 <PinkTomato> really!? weather is extremely confusing
18:17 <Lucifer> so it's a little behind schedule right now
18:18 <Lucifer> our fall is a continuing oscillation from low 70s temperatures to mid-40s
18:18 <Lucifer> and the oscillation isn't day/night oscillation
18:18 <PinkTomato> what's summer like?
18:18 <Lucifer> pretty constant high 90s/low 100s
18:18 <Lucifer> humid, though
18:18 <PinkTomato> ah, I hate that humid hot
18:18 <Lucifer> we'll hit 95% relative humidity in late july and hold it until late september
18:19 <PinkTomato> everyone goes crazy when we reach 100 here
18:19 <Lucifer> we don't hit the highest temperatures in the world in absolute numbers, but in terms of joules/m^3, we're the hottest place on the planet
18:19 <Lucifer> even then, Austin isn't the worst, you have to go farther south :)
18:20 <PinkTomato> ouch :)
18:21 <Lucifer> humid subtropical :)
18:21 <ct|kyle> Lucifer still has not figured out how i survive in such a cold climate
18:21 <PinkTomato> me either ;)
18:21 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's not just cold, it's unsuited for human habitation!
18:23 <ct|kyle> works fine for me :)
18:24 <PinkTomato> There is such a big contrast from the north and south, and you still can go a long way more north-east than where kyle is.
18:24 <PinkTomato> (without reaching canada)
18:24 <ct|kyle> ya
18:24 <Lucifer> true, but the bitter cold winters are in the mid-west
18:24 <Lucifer> the closer you get to the oceans, you milder it gets
18:24 <Lucifer> you're in the UK, right?
18:24 <ct|kyle> they were 30 mph last night
18:24 <Lucifer> why does the UK have such a mild climate when it's so far up north?
18:25 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it doesn't....
18:25 <Lucifer> ?
18:25 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: ?
18:25 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ?
18:25 <Lucifer> I seem to recall it has a climate much like Seattle, which is also pretty far north
18:25 <BabyBug> The UK...It doesn't have a mild climate..
18:25 <PinkTomato> On a flat map its on level with canada
18:26 <BabyBug> It was -9 here 2 days ago....that is soooooooo not mild
18:26 <BabyBug> lol
18:26 <Lucifer> heh, what do you consider mild?
18:26 <Lucifer> -9 C?
18:26 <BabyBug> yes
18:26 <Lucifer> #cinf -9
18:26 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
18:26 <Lucifer> fuck off armabot
18:26 <ct|kyle> that is what it is here basicall
18:26 <BabyBug> #g -9c in F
18:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: (-9) degrees Celsius = 15.8 degrees Fahrenheit
18:26 <Lucifer> that's not too bad
18:26 <BabyBug> yes it is...
18:26 <Lucifer> now, does it stay like that all winter, or is it just a few days or a couple of weeks?
18:26 <PinkTomato> #weather Prince Albert, Canada
18:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan is -9.4°F (11:00 AM CST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Windchill: -22.0°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
18:26 <Lucifer> what are your summer highs like?
18:27 <PinkTomato> #cinf -9
18:27 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
18:27 <PinkTomato> #finc -9
18:27 <@armabot> PinkTomato: -22.7777777778
18:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Thats Canada ;)
18:27 <BabyBug> Lucifer, just few days..lol...its' never really need that cold...we're not used it....So not used to it that the main water pipe coming from the resevoir to a water treatment works froze xD
18:27 <ct|kyle> I wanna go :)
18:27 <Lucifer> my understanding is the UK is cool and rainy most of the year
18:27 <BabyBug> Ya it is
18:27 <Lucifer> THAT'S A MILD CLIMATE!
18:28 <PinkTomato> I don't think it rains as much as we complain as it does though
18:28 <Lucifer> no extreme heat, no extreme cold....
18:28 <Lucifer> the reason your climate is so mild is because the ocean stores up heat through the summer and releases it in the winter
18:28 <Lucifer> and the gulf stream goes right around the island, that helps a lot too
18:28 <Lucifer> but the midwest and much of canada have no such help
18:29 <ct|kyle> mine can get from -5F to 90(or more)F
18:29 <BabyBug> I don't get any warm breezes :(
18:29  * BabyBug is right in the middle of a valley
18:29 <Lucifer> no, but you don't get the raging cold that comes down from canada, hits a few buffalo, and blows into Texas :)
18:29 <ct|kyle> we usually get about 2-3 weeks 90+
18:29 <Lucifer> (there are mountains on the northern texas border to keep out most of the cold winds)
18:30 <Lucifer> yeah, we get 90+ from early May all the way into November
18:30 <ct|kyle> I've even gotten used to working outside in that heat :)
18:30 <Lucifer> but we only have a few days of freezing temperatures, and snow is a once every few years event
18:30 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
18:30 <PinkTomato> Do you get warm rain where you are?
18:30 <Lucifer> snow that sticks is even rarer than snow that falls
18:30 <Lucifer> yeah, we get hot rain
18:30 <Lucifer> man, we get it where the sun heats up the street, then the rain falls, then the sun heats it up again
18:31 <Lucifer> so you can watch the water evaporate
18:31 <PinkTomato> sweet :)
18:31 <Lucifer> steam coming off the roads, it's really neat
18:31 <PinkTomato> Rain here is always cold,
18:31 <Lucifer> we have it rain and shine sun at the same time
18:31 <Lucifer> I really hate that
18:31 <PinkTomato> That's probably the temperature the UK should be if it didn't have a sea
18:31 <PinkTomato> That hardly happens
18:34 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: if your in a valley, surely you don't get any cold breeze's either?
18:34 <ct|kyle> we get hot rains every once in a while
18:35 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron and earlier and Armagetron A
18:35 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it's just a cold breeze going round and round in circles :P
18:36 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
18:36 <Lucifer> BabyBug: warm it up a bit, then!
18:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i'm hot..but not that hot :P
18:37 <Lucifer> I was actually thinking you should expel hot gasses into the cold breeze
18:37 <epsy> Lucifer always loved doing that
18:38 <Lucifer> hey, how did you think Texas got so hot in the first place?
18:38 <Lucifer> all the geological evidence indicates it started to get really warm after Mexican food was invented
18:38 <ct|kyle> epsy: see if you can login on Crazy Tronners Fortress Server now
18:39 <epsy> @sd Crazy Tronners Fortress Server
18:39 <teabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Fortress Server: Players (0/32):
18:39 <Lucifer> so, do you call an SSG "Staff Sergeant", or just "Sergeant"?
18:39 <epsy> @sd -v Crazy Tronners Fortress Server
18:39 <teabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Fortress Server ( running 0.2.8_alpha20090108 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Crazy Tronners master fortress Server. Contact us on http://crazy-tronners.com/“, Players (0/32):
18:40 <ct|kyle> epsy: i merged ct+sty with 0.2.8.* last night
18:40 <epsy> works
18:40 <ct|kyle> ok :)
18:41 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you should change your own version to note that it's ct+sty
18:41 <ct|kyle> ya what file is that?
18:41 <Lucifer> check the file minor_version for how
18:42  * epsy is out of sync already
18:43 <ct|kyle> so basically add in ct+sty at the start of line
18:51 <Lucifer> aw man, I'm too old for the coast guard :/
18:52 <PinkTomato> :(
18:52 <Lucifer> maybe they'll make an exception for an exceptional person?  ;)
18:52 <Lucifer> (which may not necessarily be me, heh)
18:53 <PinkTomato> :)
18:53 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: I'm reading the map rotation script for Racing II
18:54 <PinkTomato> I've always wanted to ask the logic for ROUND_COMMENCING -98 ?
18:54 <ct|kyle> -98?
18:55 <PinkTomato> dosen't ring a bell?
18:55 <ct|kyle> nope
18:55 <PinkTomato> I think it was the first/second round was always reported as -98
18:56 <ct|kyle> maybe first
18:57 <ct|kyle> i should look
18:58 <PinkTomato> I'm just checking now, first round is ROUND_COMMENCING -98 12
18:59 <PinkTomato> Our version hasen't been updated for ages
19:00 <ct|kyle> heh, i know, I'll probably add that rubberzone hack into ct+sty sometime
19:01 <ct|kyle> hoop gave me all the information for it
19:01 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
19:01 <ct|kyle> #help armablah
19:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (armablah [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armablah at the RSS feed <http://www.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?as_q=&hl=en&ctz=-60&c2coff=1&as_epq=&as_eq=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=a&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2008&lr=lang_en&safe=active&scoring=d&q=armagetron+OR+armagetronad&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=rss>. If <number of headlines> is given, (1 more message)
19:01 <PinkTomato> :),
19:01 <PinkTomato> #more ct|kyle
19:01 <@armabot> PinkTomato: returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
19:02 <epsy> @rss aanounce --remove armablah
19:02 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'aanounce' is not a valid url.
19:02 <ct|kyle> #list rss
19:02 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 0.3.1, add, announce, armaannounce, armablah, armacommits, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, rss, sty, and sty+ct
19:02 <epsy> @rss announce --remove armablah
19:02 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:02 <epsy> @help rss rss
19:02 <teabot> epsy: (rss rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
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19:03 <epsy> err, stoopid me
19:03 <epsy> #rss announce --remove armablah
19:03 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:03 <epsy> #rss announce
19:03 <@armabot> epsy: armacommits, lpbugs, fts_feedback, and armaannounce
19:04  * ct|kyle agrees :)
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20:48 <i2020> breep
20:48 <ct|kyle> beep
20:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r650 changing minor_version to show sty+ct
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21:23 <nsh22> hey
21:23 <PinkTomato> hello nsh22 :)
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21:44 <K-Yo> guru3, do you own armagetronad.net ?
21:45 <guru3> yes
21:46 <K-Yo> guru3, do you think you could set up some subdomains such as ladle.aa.net who would point to the wiki ladle page ?
21:46 <K-Yo> it makes an easier link for advertising on servers
21:47 <guru3> hmm
21:47 <epsy> what about http://armagetronad.net/ladle/ ?
21:47 <epsy> this way it might be better once we move from wiki to whatever for managing the ladle
21:49 <guru3> maybe something like competitions.armagetronad.net
21:49 <epsy> fight.armagetronad.net
21:50 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:50 <K-Yo> personnaly, I don't care about the name
21:50 <guru3> you could register something like aatourneys.com
21:50 <madmax> yeah, no one memorizes those wiki links for tourneys heh
21:50 <epsy> @linkladle
21:51 <epsy> (if teabot wants to work)
21:51 <K-Yo> yeah
21:51 <epsy> headshot
21:51 <K-Yo> guru3, that's a good Idea
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21:51 <K-Yo> I could do it if no one else wants
21:51 <guru3> i mean, as long as anyone could use it, fight.armagetronad.net would be ok
21:51 <guru3> but i don't keep track of all the tournaments
21:52 <K-Yo> I think of building something bigger
21:52 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module
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21:52 <K-Yo> but not in the foreseeable future :P
21:52 <K-Yo> epsy, exactly!
21:52 <epsy> yeah
21:52 <epsy> exactly
21:52 <K-Yo> anyway, I don't have time in the foreseeable future :P
21:52 <epsy> but I still need to do carpets before
21:53 <K-Yo> epsy, do you know http://ops.warrock.net/ ?
21:53 <epsy> no
21:53 <K-Yo> take a look
21:53 <epsy> ugh
21:54 <K-Yo> I really like the system
21:54 <guru3> it looks like clanbase
21:54 <guru3> (sort of)
21:54 <K-Yo> yeah
21:54 <K-Yo> it has all the players and all the clans
21:54 <epsy> the site looks ugly heh
21:54 <K-Yo> dates of fights
21:54 <K-Yo> results
21:54 <K-Yo> etc etc
21:54 <guru3> clanbase... that takes me back
21:54 <epsy> it's pretty much what I had in mind
21:54 <K-Yo> same :)
21:54 <epsy> just..uhm, with a cleaner website, heh
21:55 <PinkTomato> the site is ugly, I can't even fidn the register link in 15 seconds
21:55 <K-Yo> sure xD
21:55 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, topright :P
21:55 <K-Yo> ah no
21:55 <PinkTomato> I can see login box ;)
21:55 <K-Yo> yeah it sucks
21:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, IMO, if you're not logged in, the only thing you should see is 1/ a description of the service, a login prompt, and a mere preview of what's going on
21:56 <PinkTomato> top right is where it should be :).
21:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: and a register link?
21:56 <epsy> by login prompt I -of course- mean a register link
21:56 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah :D
21:56 <PinkTomato> its just this website only has a login box
21:56 <epsy> well, a hint on where to get an AAGID
21:57 <epsy> think of vimeo.com when you're logged out
21:57 <PinkTomato> now thats a nice looking website
21:58 <epsy> see, that's a better impression than the impression you got when seeing the site K-Yo mentionned
21:58 <epsy> So, you have a register form on top of the page, a login link, what's going on and what vimeo is
21:58 <PinkTomato> although K-Yo site has the functionality of what we want
21:58 <PinkTomato> so merge them, done :)
21:59 <epsy> merge into what?
21:59 <PinkTomato> take the style/layout of vimeo, and stick it into that clan system website
21:59 <epsy> haha
21:59 <PinkTomato> and it would be pretty clean, neat, and useable
22:00 <epsy> and find a lawsuit and merge it as well
22:00 <K-Yo> hmmmm
22:00 <K-Yo> so, what domain should we register?
22:00 <PinkTomato> Would we even need MCM whatever?
22:00 <PinkTomato> It's achieveable currently
22:00 <guru3> armagetronsayseatbabies.com
22:00 <BabyBug> O.o
22:01 <Lucifer> guru3: I've already registered that one
22:01 <epsy> If you mean the stuff definined here <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>, I'd say an official one would be welcome :)
22:01 <PinkTomato> how would it work epsy?
22:01 <epsy> answering that question is pretty much the job of the document I linked
22:01 <PinkTomato> Oh I see!
22:02 <PinkTomato> I was thinking more setting the team names etc
22:02 <PinkTomato> this is linking a group of servers together with some cool functionality
22:02 <Lucifer> what we need is a fairly simple package for coordinating a single tournament
22:03 <Lucifer> then, anybody who wants to run a tournament can use it
22:03 <Lucifer> it should export some sort of xml data that we can collect onto the main site, or a special site for the purpose
22:03 <epsy> Lucifer, I'd start with individual matches
22:03 <PinkTomato> So if I get this right, your playing in server 3, and when durka and sagelord win in server 1, it will be reported to you?
22:03 <epsy> it could
22:03 <Lucifer> epsy: sure, if it could do individual matches, then a human could use it to manage a tournament
22:03 <epsy> :)
22:04 <Lucifer> well, that level of integration with arma will take some time, and it won't be until Bacchus makes it out the door that it can be widely adopted (needs the scripting)
22:04 <epsy> totally
22:05 <Lucifer> but if we were to focus in the unix tradition on just doing one thing and doing it well, I'd say epsy's right, just coordinate single matches
22:05 <Lucifer> allow teams and players, and support armathentication (so people won't have to register if they're already registered somewhere else in armaland)
22:06 <Lucifer> once that functionality is there, making it support tournaments shouldn't be too tricky
22:06 <K-Yo> and maybe after a time could be automatically integrated to server?
22:06 <K-Yo> with an optino to activate the report or not
22:06 <Lucifer> however, writing a single web app to support all tournaments and be a central location to do it would be a big pain in the ass
22:07 <Lucifer> sure, give it a good rpc interface and we might be able to find ways to integrate with existing servers
22:07 <epsy> K-Yo, enable/disable a module/script/kangoroo
22:07 <Lucifer> but ultimately, we'd want some pretty strong integration that can only be achieved when scripting is standard
22:07 <K-Yo> Lucifer, I can do that, but in one? two? years
22:07 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah :)
22:07 <Lucifer> hey, look, if you guys can just get the easy stuff done (i.e. the grunt work), I can work up the rpc stuff
22:08 <K-Yo> .g grunt
22:08 <K-Yo> .g rpc
22:08 <Lucifer> hell, I don't want to make any more promises I can't keep, but if I find myself with a job, this is one of the things on my todo list
22:08 <Lucifer> rpc = remote procedure call (or something like that)
22:08 <Lucifer> basically a way for the server to report on the match :)
22:08 <K-Yo> okay
22:09 <PinkTomato> that would be easy to do insecurly, possibly?
22:09 <Lucifer> could do it securely too
22:09 <K-Yo> even better ><
22:09 <Lucifer> ssl is at a lower layer than the web app itself
22:09 <epsy> lol
22:09 <K-Yo> smthing like each server has an account with a private key?
22:09 <Lucifer> K-Yo: pretty much, yeah
22:09 <epsy> *cough* armathentication *cough*
22:10 <PinkTomato> so the server's log in to :D
22:10 <Lucifer> epsy: can servers authenticate?
22:10 <epsy> not yet?
22:10 <K-Yo> :P
22:10 <K-Yo> serventication!
22:10 <ct|kyle> lol
22:10 <PinkTomato> :D
22:10 <Lucifer> well, for a web-based protocol, we wouldn't want to do the same back-and-forth that goes on with armathentication
22:11 <Lucifer> maybe later, when there's real scripting
22:11 <K-Yo>  #ls -g café@wrtlpwnd
22:11 <PinkTomato> :D
22:11 <Lucifer> I'm just thinking of a basic xml-rpc or soap thing, or even simpler, but basically xml in the raw post data
22:11 <Lucifer> embed user and password in there, server rejects the whole thing if it doesn't have a user and pass for it
22:11 <ct|kyle> CSS for maps should be first :P
22:12 <Lucifer> heh
22:12 <Lucifer> I'm not intending to work on any extra project until I have at least finished the resource work on my plate, and that's after 0.3.1, and presumably after I get a job, too
22:12 <epsy> CSS for scoreboardz too! pff!
22:12 <PinkTomato> xD
22:12 <Lucifer> I've got some good leads, though
22:12 <PinkTomato> :)
22:13  * epsy really wonders what to use for scoreboards
22:13 <K-Yo>  #find a word for Lucifer
22:13 <Lucifer> http://austin.craigslist.org/web/982750259.html  <--- this one has my name all over it
22:15 <Lucifer> epsy: cockpit widget
22:15 <Lucifer> epsy: while you're at it, would you convert the console to a cockpit widget, too?  ;)
22:15 <epsy> oh yeah, we have that as cockpits already
22:15 <epsy> neat
22:15 <epsy> Lucifer, that's part of my eEvent roadmap :<
22:16 <Lucifer> isn't there a patch floating around for that?
22:16 <epsy> along with extending it with filters etc etc
22:16 <epsy> so you can get chat on one console etc
22:17 <epsy> K-Yo, grrrr..this is not minor :<
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22:25 <Lucifer> ok, I give up, I thought someone threw together a patch that made a cockpit widget for the chat stuff
22:25 <Lucifer> but I'm not finding it now
22:27 <K-Yo> epsy, it is not? ^o) just added one line
22:27 <K-Yo> well I never know how to comment this wiki stuff...
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22:34 <K-Yo> epsy, isn't providing an example "minor" ?
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22:35 <PinkTomato> So changing a small spelling mistake, or fixing a grammar point, is that minor edit? What if it was a whole paragraph?
22:35 <BabyBug> \o
22:35 <PinkTomato> \o BabyBug :)
22:36 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: what did i spell wrong
22:37 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: you have spelt nothing wrong :), just wondering when I should tick that minor edit button on a wiki
22:39 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Spork  Slowly coming along
22:40 <PinkTomato> "The First Spork is planned for Sunday 8th March 2009" Awwww...... XD
22:40  * PinkTomato will be patient :)
22:40 <ct|kyle> :)
22:40 <ct|kyle> probably should have set round's
22:41 <ct|kyle> really should have it the 15th, in case we have another ladle the 1st
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22:42 <PinkTomato> :), Reminds me I should get map rotation working and then the biggest hurdle is done
22:45 <ct|kyle> ya
22:45 <K-Yo> I know!
22:45 <ct|kyle> should be easy to do
22:45 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: ?
22:45 <K-Yo> epsy, Lucifer guru3 : what do you think of tronic.net ?
22:45 <ct|kyle> .org
22:45 <PinkTomato> haven't we got to move away from the name tron?
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22:46 <PinkTomato> didn't debian moan at us?
22:46 <K-Yo> yeah org
22:46 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, oh, mamybe
22:46 <PinkTomato> isn't it more of a network?
22:46 <guru3> K-Yo: is it taken?
22:46 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: one of them did
22:47 <K-Yo> guru3, let me check
22:47 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: I was assuming debian due to iseweasel
22:47 <PinkTomato> :)
22:47 <ct|kyle> PFedora
22:47 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato*: Fedora
22:47 <K-Yo> all taken
22:47 <PinkTomato> ah
22:47 <K-Yo> :(
22:47 <PinkTomato> what?
22:47 <PinkTomato> what are people using tronic.net for?
22:48 <K-Yo> to list directories
22:48 <K-Yo> xD
22:48 <ivantis2> guru3: would you consider unbanning *245. whatever? thats me at home
22:48 <K-Yo> #fetch tronic.net
22:48 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: 'tronic.net' is not a valid url.
22:48 <PinkTomato> tronic.org is a holding page.. it's silly
22:48 <K-Yo> #fetch http://www.tronic.net
22:48 <@armabot> K-Yo: HTTP Error 403: Access Forbidden
22:48 <K-Yo> hmmm
22:49 <ct|kyle> arma-comp.org
22:49 <guru3> cyclecompetitions.net
22:50 <ct|kyle> arma-tourny.org
22:50 <guru3> tourney?
22:50 <PinkTomato>  cyclecompetitions.net << how is this avaliable?
22:50 <PinkTomato> I don't understand, my money would be on that rather than tronic.net
22:50 <guru3> i don't know, didn't check
22:50 <guru3> just thought it was an interesting name
22:51 <ivantis2> guru3: ?
22:51 <PinkTomato> Oh I did check, I was surprised it was not taken.
22:52 <guru3> *!*@*.245.159.78
22:52 <ct|kyle> i think .org would be beter
22:52 <ivantis2> yes that one is me
22:52 <guru3> are you going to continue running ircbots from that ip?
22:52 <guru3> (in this channel)
22:52 <ivantis2> no
22:52 <guru3> ok then
22:52 <ivantis2> i stopped that before the ban anyway
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22:53 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*@*.245.159.78] by guru3
22:53 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
22:53 <ivantis2> thanx
22:54 <ivantis2> i had a good idea for a server while looking at the tour de france map in my communications class today: tour de france
22:55 <ivantis2> its like the real race
22:55 <K-Yo> yes, .org is the shit
22:55 <ivantis2> the map is like a big map of france
22:55 <ct|kyle> #g 750C in F
22:55 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 750 degrees Celsius = 1382 degrees Fahrenheit
22:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: already done: http://www.tomscott.com/realworldracer/
22:56 <ivantis2> no in arma
22:57 <PinkTomato> hmm
22:57 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: what is 750 Centigrade!?
22:57 <PinkTomato> that's severely hot
22:58 <ivantis2> maps are different, each checkpoint is another match
22:58 <ivantis2> er, round
22:58 <ivantis2> another good idea: speed zones. when touched, increase your speed
22:59 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: someone experimented with speed zones, they couldn't find a way for it to work without causing odd stuff to happen
22:59 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: Not sure :P just wondered what it was
23:00 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: would require client support, I believe zonesv2 was going to support this
23:00 <ivantis2> really? and rubber zones and such did work?
23:01 <PinkTomato> they did, the cycles started to hop around
23:01 <ivantis2> what odd stuff happens?
23:01 <ivantis2> weird
23:01 <PinkTomato> from someone not looking at the code, I think the client draws the cycles at the speed predicting acceleration
23:02 <PinkTomato> yet the server applies the actual increase in position, and sends this to the client
23:02 <PinkTomato> which results in the player jumping.
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23:02 <ivantis2> most likely. did anyone try it using a local game on a client?
23:02 <PinkTomato> Um.. not sure
23:02 <ivantis2> hai TaZ
23:03 <PinkTomato> #g -1K in C
23:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-1) kelvin = -274.15 degrees Celsius
23:03 <TaZ> hey ivantis2
23:03 <PinkTomato> #g -100K in C
23:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-100) kelvin = -373.15 degrees Celsius
23:03 <ivantis2> #g 100K in C
23:03 <@armabot> ivantis2: 100 kelvin = -173.15 degrees Celsius
23:04 <PinkTomato> 0Kelvin is the lowest temperature that kelvin can go
23:04 <TaZ> does anyone have CT_voodoo's MSN?
23:04 <K-Yo> armatronic.org
23:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: a catalytic converter
23:04 <K-Yo> TaZ, hmmm he uses yahoo
23:05 <TaZ> Do you have his email?
23:05 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I wanted to verify it before saying
23:05 <K-Yo> yea
23:05 <TaZ> could you pm it to me?
23:05 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ah I see :D, that's still very hot :)
23:06 <K-Yo> TaZ, after my sumo :)
23:06 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: ya
23:06 <ct|kyle> hotter than i thought engine exhaust would be
23:07 <PinkTomato> that's supposed to be engine exhaust!?
23:07  * PinkTomato will not touch exhausts
23:08 <ivantis2> did you know that i could be signed into AIM and such all day and actually be there? i have an aim client for my phone
23:08 <ivantis2> tmobile G1 running Android
23:08 <TaZ> you have a g1?
23:09 <TaZ> you must have 3G too
23:09 <ivantis2> yeah. i am using it right now
23:09 <TaZ> nice
23:09 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: apparently they can get that hot
23:09 <TaZ> using an IRC client?
23:09 <PinkTomato> Unfortunatly at 4£ a MB that becomes unfeasible for me.
23:09 <TaZ> lol
23:09 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: wow .. :)
23:10 <ivantis2> TaZ: yeah androidirc
23:10 <TaZ> ah
23:11 <PinkTomato> For Spork, would there be any reason why we might have a different map_file but the same settings? or should I only link the database to a configuration file?
23:11 <ivantis2> there is already a tron clone in 2d for android
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201750#201750
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23:11 <ivantis2> #g 4£ in USD
23:11 <@armabot> ivantis2: 4 UK£ = 6.0688 U.S. dollars
23:11 <TaZ> is the G1 still the only phone with android?
23:12 <ivantis2> the australian android phone and the G1
23:12 <TaZ> ok
23:12 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: for what you are doing i would use configuration
23:12  * TaZ wants to go to CES
23:13 <ct|kyle> file
23:13 <ivantis2> i love it. early christmas present from parents
23:13 <TaZ> nice
23:13 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: right OK :)
23:13 <PinkTomato> no point making data redundant
23:14 <ct|kyle> for Ct's it works a lot better having each setting for each map
23:14 <TaZ> what made you get the G1, ivantis? :P
23:14 <K-Yo> epsy, I saw that ;)
23:14 <ivantis2> TaZ: uh, someone here talking about it. saw it and needed it
23:15 <ivantis2> my parents really like how i like computer programming, and i told them it was open source and i could write apps for it
23:15 <TaZ> lol
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23:24 <PinkTomato> #cfg FORTRESS_
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
23:25 <PinkTomato> @cfg FORTRESS_
23:25 <epsy> lol
23:25 <PinkTomato> is armabot out of date?
23:25 <PinkTomato> or am I doing it wrong?
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23:26 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 FORTRESS_
23:26 <PinkTomato> .cfg FORTRESS_
23:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: FORTRESS_COLLAPSE_SPEED: fortress_collapse_speed_help || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_KILL_MIN: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_KILL_RATIO: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_SCORE: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_WIN: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" from being conquered || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE: Rate a fortress zone gets conquered with for each enemy (1 more message)
23:26 <tronner> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
23:26 <epsy>  yup, outdated
23:26 <ct|kyle> I just updated it this morning
23:26 <PinkTomato> .more ct|kyle
23:26 <tronner> PinkTomato: in it || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_TIMEOUT: fortress_conquest_timeout_help || FORTRESS_DEFEND_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" for each defending player || FORTRESS_HELD_SCORE: Score you get for holding your fortress. || FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_SURVIVE_WIN: UNDOCUMENTED
23:26 <epsy> .cfg2 mode
23:26 <tronner> epsy: ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE: Last screen resolution || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE: Screen resolution || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED || BALL_TEAM_MODE: ball_team_mode_help || SWAP_MODE: Determines the commands used to sync graphics and input. 0: do nothing, 1: (2 more messages)
23:26 <PinkTomato> it was this one: FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM, ty kyle :)
23:26 <ct|kyle> i still want to know how to get the default values in it
23:27 <epsy> .cfg2 m_el
23:27 <tronner> epsy: TEAM_ELIMINATION_MODE: Defines the way ArmagetronAd should eliminate teams when there's more teams than TEAMS_MAX: Set to 0 it will try to keep as many players as possible, kicking teams that have the lowest score if teams are balanced; Set to 1 it will try to keep the best team colors (Team blue, then Team gold, then Team red, etc); Set to 2 it will kick out the teams that have the lowest score, regardless of (1 more message)
23:27 <epsy> .more
23:27 <tronner> epsy: balance.
23:27 <epsy> ..lol
23:27 <PinkTomato> lol, it would have been easier to print balance
23:27 <ct|kyle> .help cfg2
23:27 <epsy> yeah
23:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
23:27 <ct|kyle> #alias add cfg2 rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
23:27 <ct|kyle> there
23:28 <PinkTomato> hehe, thanks, should come in handy :)
23:28 <ct|kyle> ya
23:28 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 INV
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME: Time in seconds a cycle is invulnerable after a respawn. || CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED || LADDERLOG_WRITE_INVALID_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_invalid_command_help
23:28 <ct|kyle> bye bye tronner
23:28 <ct|kyle> .part
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23:29 <ct|kyle> i should make a .cfg3 for 0.3.*
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