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Log from 2008-12-14:
--- Day changed Sun Dec 14 2008
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00:07 <BabyBug> .ls jenny
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00:07 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: BabyBug seems to be on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) right now.
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00:39 <armabot> lpbugs: [307790] configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined.
00:51 <epsy> bug 307790
00:51 <epsy> blah
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00:51 <dlh> blah indeed
00:52 <epsy> http://launchpad.net/bugs/307790
00:52  * epsy clicks
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00:53 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft do you think it is OK to make a backup of rain's FTS and lay the task down to concord?
00:53 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:54 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft I'm talking bout the task of working on these settings, of course :)
00:54 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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00:55 <epsy> bug 307790
00:55 <teabot> Launchpad bug 307790 in armagetronad "configure: error: conditional "AMDEP" was never defined." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307790
00:55 <epsy> good bot
00:57 <epsy> gah, I remember someone posting a video on which he increased the distance rubber kicks in to show How the cycle moves once it starts being affected by rubber
00:57 <epsy> I really can't find it again :s
00:59 <epsy> was it perhaps you, dlh ?
00:59 <dlh> nope, wasn't me
01:00 <dlh> was it on youtube or a similar site?
01:01 <dlh> is it this? http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1684 Jonathan's headlight mod?
01:03 <epsy> probably not, I guess it was on youtube, but I can't really find anything relevant on it
01:06 <epsy> dlh, also, I could fix the unistd.h issue by actually doing what the doc says
01:07 <epsy> (same happened for SDL when not compiling a dedi
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01:14 <Lucifer> I hate myself for loving you, can't break free from the things that you do, etc...
01:14  * Lucifer loves Joan Jett
01:14 <luke-jr> ……
01:17 <dlh> epsy: thanks. I just fixed it myself and it also fixed the error in the bugreport
01:17 <dlh> oh wait, I'm at a previous rev.
01:17 <dlh> maybe not
01:18 <epsy> check your diff
01:18 <antric> oh, black betty, bam ba lam
01:19 <Lucifer> hey, I didn't know Lita Ford and Joan Jett were in a band together
01:19 <Lucifer> that's hot
01:19 <Lucifer> I wonder if they ever kissed on stage
01:19 <antric> i think ive only ever heard one lita ford song, and it was with ozzy
01:22 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/slyshot/quimica-2.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
01:23 <epsy> let's sum up today's work..
01:23 <epsy> I added two lines in a wiki article..weeh
01:24 <epsy> 2 of them being just titles
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01:28 <epsy> good night
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01:31 <madmax> #later tell epsy subtle!
01:31 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
01:32 <Lucifer> antric: she also did "Kiss me deadly"
01:33 <Lucifer> I want to be the bass player in an otherwise all-girl band
01:34 <luke-jr_> anyone know where the PHP arma client is?
01:43 <Lucifer> hey, any of you germans can help?
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01:44 <Lucifer> I want a torrent of all of Nena's stuff, but I'd like both german and english wherever both are available :)
01:44 <ivantis2> guess where i am
01:44 <ivantis2> my G1!
01:45 <ivantis2> who was it that was talking about the google phone a few weeks ago?
01:45 <ivantis2> StickyNoob?
01:45 <ivantis2> this is such a great phone
01:46 <ivantis2> :)
01:47 <StickyNo1b> what?
01:47 <ivantis2> werent you talking about googles android a few weeks ago?
01:48 <StickyNo1b> possibly
01:48 <StickyNo1b> yeah its quite good
01:48 <ivantis2> i got a G1 yesterday
01:48 <StickyNo1b> i got a bit pissed when i found out that you can only upload signed kernels
01:48 <ivantis2> you have one? or the SDK with the emu?
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01:49 <StickyNo1b> no i dont have one
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01:49 <StickyNo1b> i may get one if the prices come down
01:49 <ivantis2> yeah and since RC30 you do not get root on tmobile ones
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01:50 <ivantis2> maybe i should have gotten a dev phone
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01:52 <Lizmatic> Aaron?
01:52 <Lizmatic> aren't you asian? your name should be something like Liu Liong
01:52 <ivantis2> racist
01:53 <ivantis2> i know some asian people whos names sound not asian
01:55 <Lizmatic> please, gtfo with 'racist' and take your witchhunt elsewhere
01:55 <Lizmatic> :P
01:55 <StickyNo1b> asians(or atleast chinese) tend to have 2 names
01:56 <StickyNo1b> a western name and a chinese name
01:56 <ivantis2> ...
01:56 <Lizmatic> see? HA!
01:56 <Lizmatic> plus it was a joke, sage knows that, but next time I say something to a person that isnt you I'll consider your feelings, Ivantis
01:56 <ivantis2> is this not a really racist conversation?
01:56 <ivantis2> see?
01:56 <StickyNo1b> ivantis2: its true
01:57 <Lizmatic> omg, racist? people throw the word "racist" way too quickly.. seriously.
01:57 <ivantis2> im not asian, but i really dont like racism
01:57 <Lizmatic> ITS NOT RACISM
01:57 <Lizmatic> if my name is gunther and someone says HEY THAT DOESNT SOUND DUTCH, it isnt racism
01:57 <ivantis2> okaay
01:57 <Lizmatic> thanks
01:58  * StickyNo1b turns to chinese girlfriend and asks here what her chinese name is again
01:58 <ivantis2> yeah ppl say 'are you russian' to me a lot because my na,e
01:58 <ivantis2> name is ivan
01:58 <Lizmatic> do you call them a racist?
01:58 <Lizmatic> ;s
01:58 <ivantis2> no
01:58 <Lizmatic> so what was racist about this whole thing again?
01:59 <StickyNo1b> but isnt stating a fact about another culture raceist?
01:59 <Lizmatic> my thoughts exactly
01:59 <Lizmatic> ..i'm really bored
01:59 <Lizmatic> lol :x
01:59 <ivantis2> saying that because sagelord is asian that they should have an asian name
02:00 <Lizmatic> <Lizmatic> plus it was a joke, sage knows that, but next time I say something to a person that isnt you I'll consider your feelings, Ivantis
02:01 <ivantis2> hold on..let me find a youtube video that you will laugh at in this circumstance
02:01 <StickyNo1b> the term asian is ambigous anyway
02:01 <StickyNo1b> *ambiguous
02:03 <ivantis2> i cant find the video, but look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Woman
02:03 <ivantis2> yeah, my G1 has copy/paste
02:04 <ivantis2> :P
02:05 <StickyNo1b> sweet, best feature ever
02:05 <madmax> what phone these days doesn't!? oh wait...
02:05 <ivantis2> that episode is really funny
02:06 <StickyNo1b> sinefeld really dosnt translate well to europe
02:06 <ivantis2> okay, im out
02:06 <ivantis2> later everone
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02:07 <StickyNo1b> it seems to be a massive hit in America but almost never shows around UK
02:07 <mkzelda> spelling it like that made your quote epic
02:07 <StickyNo1b> heh
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02:38 <Lucifer> oh, rock me amadeus
02:38 <luke-jr> y
02:39 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: aren't you a kangaroo lover?
02:39  * Lucifer waits for the racist card to be played
02:40 <Lucifer> I've got an Asian penis.  You don't want to get involved in a land war in it.
02:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: flag fort:P
02:42 <Lucifer> heh
02:43 <Lucifer> not right this minute, but maybe a bit later ;)
02:43 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: Kangaroo lover? wtf
02:43 <Lizmatic> theyre cute I guess
02:43 <Lizmatic> :D
02:43 <Lucifer> I hate myself for loving you, can't breka free (etc)
02:44 <ct|kyle> heh, i thought it was past 10 PM EST
02:44 <Lucifer> I want to figure out the guitar parts for this song and kinda rewrite the lyrics
02:45 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: er, maybe you're not the liz I thought you were, heh ;)
02:45 <Lucifer> oh man, that song's not finished downloading
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04:19 <ct|kyle> .flag
04:19 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (4/10): ctt_sine.wav, Figi, Jesus, Kitty
04:21  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
04:21 <BabyBug> ;)
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05:35 <Paralyzed> hey guys quick question
05:36 <Paralyzed> will making tron top priorty like on windows task manager will that give you better game peformance
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05:50 <Lucifer> yes
05:50 <Lucifer> heh
05:50  * Lucifer loves answering questions after people have left, with the answer they wanted
05:53 <ct|kyle> .flag
05:53 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (5/10): /NEWB#1, C$ Nitrous, ctt_sine.wav, luke-jr, paco la chimpa
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06:05 <Lucifer> Nena has the most beautiful voice ever
06:12 <ivantis> here are the asian-racist quotes i was getting at in the wikipedia thing:
06:12 <ivantis>     * Elaine: Donna Chang?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: I shoulda talked to her. I love Chinese women.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: Isn't that a little racist?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: If I like their race, how can that be racist?
06:12 <ivantis>     * Estelle: Who are you?
06:12 <ivantis>     Donna: I'm Donna Chang.
06:12 <ivantis>     Estelle: (recoils) You're not Chinese!
06:12 <ivantis>     * Elaine: She's not Chinese?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: No, not Chinese. Not even Asian.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: So, what is she?
06:12 <ivantis>     Jerry: Well, she's... like you.
06:12 <ivantis>     Elaine: Oh, how disappointed you must have been.
06:16 <luke-jr> ivantis: why did you waste my bandwidth with that?
06:16 <ivantis> luke-jr: you arent hosting calkins
06:17 <luke-jr> ivantis: and?
06:17 <ivantis> luke-jr: &&?
06:17 <ivantis> do you have a G1 luke-jr?
06:18 <luke-jr> do you have a penis ivantis?
06:18 <ivantis> answer me first
06:18 <luke-jr> no
06:18 <luke-jr> I don't have to answer to you
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06:18 <luke-jr> n00b
06:18 <ivantis> i dont have to answer you
06:18 <sinewav> haha
06:18 <ivantis> but i will anyway: "yes"
06:19 <luke-jr> ivantis: I didn't ask you to lie.
06:19 <ivantis> good thing i didnt
06:19 <luke-jr>   693M djvision
06:19 <sinewav> ah, hermaphodite...
06:19 <luke-jr> biggest bandwidth user on that server :þ
06:19 <luke-jr> other than hiro
06:19 <sinewav> is that a bad sine?
06:19 <sinewav> `heh
06:19 <luke-jr>  1769G hiro
06:20 <sinewav> hmm
06:20 <sinewav> well, that flag fort is a pretty neat game, but CT is gonna hijack it
06:20 <luke-jr> y
06:21 <sinewav> because they want a euro version
06:21 <luke-jr> sue them for patent royalties
06:21 <sinewav> `ping!
06:21 <sinewav> isn't my idea anyway ;)
06:21 <luke-jr> …it was a joke
06:21 <luke-jr> sinewav: Yandere in #Anime ?
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07:27 <luke-jr> grr
07:27 <luke-jr> how to disable anti-spam crap?
07:46 <Lucifer> awwww, where'd durka go?
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13:18 <Lizmatic> o/
13:20 <BabyBug> \o
13:21 <Lucifer> \o/
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13:29 <Lizmatic> *yawn*
13:32 <epsy> omg NO
13:32 <Lizmatic> :|
13:32 <epsy> :O
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13:39  * BabyBug pokes epsy 
13:40 <hoop> epsy how does it work switching from fort to sumo and vicevers in fort test server?
13:41 <epsy> external script watching for players
13:41 <hoop> armahacktron?
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13:41 <epsy> nope
13:41 <hoop> what does the script read?
13:41 <epsy> regular logs
13:41  * Lizmatic is eating c00kies
13:41 <epsy> \o BabyBug
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13:42 <hoop> epsy: how does it know if players are(n't) in spec mode?
13:42 <epsy> can't remember
13:42 <hoop> may i have the script?
13:42 <epsy> second
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13:44 <epsy> well, I just erased it while trying to make an archive otu of it
13:44 <hoop> epsy: the "half fortress" script is done, I'd like to merge in it sumo when players < 4
13:45 <hoop> though it uses the ct hack to work
13:45 <epsy> well, watch for these ladderlog messages at the end of the rounds
13:45 <epsy> blah, fuck me
13:45 <hoop> I'm stuck with it
13:45 <epsy> how come?
13:46 <hoop> when round starts it logs NUM_HUMANS, but it's too late to change the map
13:46 <epsy> same happens on FTS
13:46 <epsy> well, happened
13:46 <hoop> ok, so the game changes in next round?
13:46 <epsy> yeah
13:46 <hoop> even if players become 4 i guess
13:46 <hoop> *from 3
13:46 <epsy> or use wait_for_external script
13:47 <epsy> it should read stdin
13:47 <epsy> now I gotta ask you for your code :<
13:47 <hoop> no way, NUM_HUMANS is logged when the round start counter has reached 1
13:48 <epsy> ah
13:48 <epsy> what about round_score?
13:48 <hoop> for what?
13:48 <epsy> .misc tell epsy cfg ladderlog
13:48 <epsy> .misc tell epsy [cfg ladderlog]
13:48 <epsy> counting players?
13:49 <epsy> gah
13:49 <hoop> yea, not bad
13:50 <hoop> my script is based on start position, it's a bit silly
13:50 <hoop> but the way the team are positioned every round is quite silly too
13:50 <epsy> or just count players as they enter
13:50 <hoop> ladder_log is not exaustive
13:50 <epsy> not sure if that works correctly with spectators, tho
13:51 <hoop> exactly
13:51 <epsy> only round_score will tell you about team..grr that'stupid
13:52 <hoop> http://rafb.net/p/98eAHo17.html
13:53 <hoop> with that, defender switches every round
13:53 <hoop> (when players < 8)
13:58 <epsy> I think I use a copy of that script of x sumo.....
13:58 <epsy> I used*
13:59 <epsy> there's even the !feedback stuff, phew
14:01 <hoop> cant u just get it from fts?
14:01 <epsy> I just said I erased it while trying to make a tar out of it
14:02 <hoop> so fts isnt working like yesterday? XD
14:02 <epsy> well, it's still in RAM I guess
14:02 <hoop> ah
14:03 <hoop> heh, is it my fault u deleted it then? :s
14:03 <epsy> well no
14:07 <hoop> bbl
14:08 <PinkTomato> hmm... couldn't you count the players byt the score they got/
14:08 <PinkTomato> ROUND_SCORE?
14:08 <epsy> thaT's what I said :P
14:09 <PinkTomato> lol, sorry epsy :)
14:14 <Lizmatic> my mac has weird colors over the screen all of the sudden O_O
14:14 <Lizmatic> yay, my first bug!
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14:14 <epsy> LOL
14:15 <epsy> love the sleep mode kicking in
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14:16 <Lizmatic> FIX'D
14:16 <epsy> WORKAROUND'D
14:23 <BabyBug> You left me =(
14:23  * BabyBug kicks Lizmatic 
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14:42  * Lizmatic cries
14:42 <BabyBug> good
14:44 <Lizmatic> haha
14:45 <Lizmatic> bitch :(
14:45 <armabot> fts_feedback: epsy¦×¦ - test
14:45  * ct|kyle cuddles Lizmatic while throwing BabyBug in the quicksand 
14:45  * BabyBug doesn't let go of ct|kyle 
14:46  * ct|kyle custs off BabyBug's arms and legs and then throws her in the quicksand 
14:46  * BabyBug bites onto kyle and blows up
14:46 <BabyBug> mwhaha
14:47  * Lizmatic saves BabyBug
14:47 <BabyBug> took ya time >< I'm already in a million pieces!!
14:48 <Lizmatic> :D
14:48 <Lizmatic> more2love!
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14:49 <BabyBug> haha
14:56 <Lizmatic> mmmhungry
14:56 <epsy> @sd fort
14:56  * BabyBug wants a god damn curry but can't have one ><
14:56 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Test Server: Players (7/16): -»|hoop, CTT_speed, CTxTadd, epsy¦×¦, mary jane, mr.µ²³r@ze|, ~*<y<lo*~
14:57 <epsy> come over here :>
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14:59 <Lizmatic> a curry?
14:59 <BabyBug> yes a curry =P
14:59 <Lizmatic> http://www.bestofholland.es/winkel/products_pictures/Hela-ketchup.jpg this is curry here
15:00 <Lizmatic> xD
15:00  * BabyBug face palms
15:00 <BabyBug> Erm...Do you know what Chicken Tika is?
15:00 <epsy> BabyBug, Lizmatic: come at FTS
15:01  * BabyBug is busy =x
15:01 <epsy> pfff
15:01 <Lizmatic> Chicken Tika? no...
15:01 <Lizmatic> I don't like chicken.
15:01 <BabyBug> Hrmph..
15:01 <Lizmatic> I'm more of a hamburger type!
15:01 <Lizmatic> :D
15:01 <BabyBug> I don't know how to explain a curry!! xD
15:01  * Lizmatic lol'd
15:02 <BabyBug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry
15:02 <BabyBug> curry!!
15:02 <Lizmatic> I knew what you meant all along but its funny to tease you
15:04  * Lizmatic giggle
15:04 <BabyBug> !!
15:04  * BabyBug kicks Lizmatic again
15:04 <Lizmatic> =D
15:08 <antric> <BabyBug> Erm...Do you know what Chicken Tika is?
15:08 <antric> YUM!
15:08 <epsy> APT
15:08 <antric> GET
15:09 <epsy> PACMAN
15:09 <antric> SHAMAN
15:10 <Lizmatic> random
15:11 <antric> oh, im a dummy. i didnt even realize til now why he said apt in the first place
15:15 <armabot> fts_feedback: Ct_Concord - perhaps we need team colors, when two teams look practically the same
15:25 <armabot> fts_feedback: Ct_Concord - we should set team colors so this doesn't hapen
15:55 <armabot> fts_feedback: ¦×¦ Lizmatic - racism!!1!!
15:57 <epsy> lol antric
16:00 <Lizmatic> time for some WoW ^^
16:01 <epsy> w0wz
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16:02 <ivantis2> boring
16:02 <epsy> ivantis, got your G1 ?
16:03 <ivantis2> ya
16:03 <epsy> [n=Android@m2c0e36d0.tmodns.net]
16:03 <ivantis2> had it since friday night
16:04 <epsy> and you don't even wait for xmas?
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16:04 <epsy> pf
16:04 <ivantis2> early present
16:04 <ivantis2> from my parents
16:05 <ivantis2> maybe you need one
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16:06 <ivantis2> they are quite awesome
16:07 <epsy> T-Mobile exclusive isn't it?
16:07 <ivantis2> well yes if you buy it from tmobile
16:08 <ivantis2> or you can get a dev phone from google
16:08 <epsy> france is one of the few regions in the world to be free from t-Mobile, if I remember correctly
16:08 <ivantis2> well, get a dev phone
16:08 <epsy> however there are other people to annoy us >.<
16:08 <epsy> ivantis2, price?
16:08 <ivantis2> use at&t or something
16:09 <epsy> at&t is only in USA :P
16:09 <ivantis2> the dev phone may be a little out of range: $400 usd
16:09 <epsy> @calc $400 is €
16:09 <epsy> gah
16:09 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:09 <epsy> @calc $400 in €
16:09 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
16:09 <epsy> @calc 400 US$ in €
16:10 <teabot> epsy: 400 US$ = 299.42361 €
16:10 <ivantis2> @calc 400 usd in £
16:10 <teabot> ivantis2: 400 U.S. dollars = 267.504849 UK£
16:10 <epsy> that's probably as much as my possible new phone contract..with the phone
16:11 <ivantis2> well, think about this: someone may have already haxed the tmo one to use with different CPSPs
16:12 <epsy> well, in france we had THE RIGHT to be free of it..
16:12 <ivantis2> mine was $179
16:12 <epsy> but operators didn't follow the law and THE LAW BENDED FOR THEM
16:12 <ivantis2> online
16:13 <ivantis2> it bended?
16:13 <ivantis2> cool
16:13 <epsy> yeah, they are allowed to lock them for 6 months
16:13 <epsy> bs..
16:13 <ivantis2> how much was your current phone?
16:14 <Lizmatic> ivantis, your name sounds russian
16:14 <epsy> you can still have it unlocked before 6 months, but you must pay for it, and the price is chosen by the phone op
16:14 <ivantis2> ivan or ivantis does?
16:14 <epsy> after 6 months it SHOULD unlock AUTOMATICALLY
16:14 <epsy> but almost none does that
16:15 <ivantis2> mine worked when i opened the box and pressed the red button
16:15 <epsy> you can't even get them to give you the unlock code via client phone line, you must even send a freaking recommended letter for that..
16:16 <epsy> this mess really needs to be fixt
16:16 <epsy> my current phone..hm
16:16 <epsy> let me check
16:16 <epsy> @calc 16.90 * 12 + 10
16:16 <teabot> epsy: (16.90 * 12) + 10 = 212.8
16:16 <ivantis2> it is disgusting what goes on around the world
16:17 <epsy> @calc € 212.8 in usd
16:17 <teabot> epsy: € 212.8 = 284.27952 U.S. dollars
16:17 <ivantis2> wow
16:17 <epsy> yeah and we're herer to fucking discuss phone op shit >.<
16:17 <Corn> :/
16:17 <Corn> our dollar is fucked up because of W
16:17 <ivantis2> what company?
16:17 <epsy> virgin mobile with a nokia 6300
16:18 <epsy> gonna move away from them
16:18 <ivantis2> yeah
16:18 <ivantis2> G1
16:19 <ivantis2> come to
16:19 <ivantis2> #android
16:19 <epsy> what for?
16:19 <ivantis2> fcku, i keep thinking return is shift
16:20 <epsy> ah it's from HTC?
16:20 <ivantis2> talking about your new investment
16:20 <epsy> glad they're moving away from windows mobile
16:20 <ivantis2> HTC?
16:20 <epsy> HTC .. HTC G1
16:21 <epsy> not going to be sold here until spring
16:25 <epsy> @calc 21.90*12+149
16:25 <teabot> epsy: (21.90 * 12) + 149 = 411.8
16:25 <epsy> @calc 26.90*12+49
16:25 <teabot> epsy: (26.90 * 12) + 49 = 371.8
16:26 <epsy> @calc 21.90*12+49
16:26 <teabot> epsy: (21.90 * 12) + 49 = 311.8
16:26 <ivantis2> @g is the g1 awesome?
16:26 <teabot> ivantis2: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=Android3&thread.id=21579 - Alt-Tab for G1........Awesome find!! - Help &amp; How To - T-Mobile Forums
16:26 <epsy> it's 8ball
16:26 <epsy> @calc 26.90*12+1
16:26 <teabot> epsy: (26.90 * 12) + 1 = 323.8
16:27 <ivantis2> doing homework?
16:27 <epsy> does that look like homework?
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16:27 <ivantis2> to me it does
16:28 <epsy> @calc 24*12+49
16:28 <teabot> epsy: (24 * 12) + 49 = 337
16:28 <epsy> it's quite easy to guess what kind of stuf I'm computing
16:29 <epsy> 337 sounds decent
16:29 <ivantis2> for you
16:29 <epsy> what is 12 for?
16:29 <ivantis2> ah
16:29 <epsy> see :)
16:29 <ivantis2> monthly bills
16:30 <ivantis2> for G1???
16:30 <epsy> no, I just said G1 wasn't going to be sold here until spring 2009
16:30 <ivantis2> aw
16:31 <ivantis2> well, get one then
16:31 <ivantis2> late xmas present
16:31 <epsy> naw ^^
16:32 <ivantis2> naw? naw???
16:33 <ivantis2> nöö, attempt failed in getting you to buy one
16:33 <epsy> yeah, I still prefer the double slider
16:33 <ivantis2> bah humbug
16:34 <ivantis2> time for some music... on my phone! has replaced my ipod completely
16:35 <epsy> how's the G1's music player?
16:35 <ivantis2> good
16:35 <ivantis2> i like it
16:35 <ivantis2> very easy to put stuff on it
16:35 <ivantis2> no crap like itunes
16:36 <epsy> I mean the music player, not how it is locked
16:36 <ivantis2> ?
16:36 <ivantis2> i like how it plays
16:37 <ivantis2> decent speaker for a phone
16:37 <ivantis2> go get the
16:37 <ivantis2> sdk
16:37 <ivantis2> with the emulator
16:38 <epsy> ie. what I want in a mobile music player is a good song randomizatater, decent playlist managing, and stereo BT support
16:38 <ivantis2> yep
16:38 <epsy> hmm.. I'm considering zapping the windows parition
16:38 <ivantis2> has all that
16:38 <epsy> let's see how's my tables
16:38 <epsy> well, my s40 has all that too, but it's not done properly
16:40 <epsy> oh well, I got stuff between /home/ and the windows partition, but these were just swap and the partition to exchange files with wingblows
16:40 <ivantis2> ya, good stuff like that
16:40 <epsy> I gain 25GB
16:41 <epsy> now I guess I should first see how do I make a backup CD
16:41 <epsy> for wingblowze
16:41 <epsy> then I can has stupid SDKs
16:41 <ivantis2> 25gb on a cd?
16:42 <epsy> windows install CD
16:42 <ivantis2> i sense that not working
16:42 <ivantis2> oh
16:43 <epsy> and then zap windows and extend home partition
16:43 <ivantis2> you know, i dont understand how a processor can time things
16:43 <epsy> I wonder if bz2 would pack my 154GB on 40GB
16:43 <epsy> complicated stuff
16:43 <ivantis2> how does it work?
16:44 <epsy> just in case things go ...WRONG
16:44 <epsy> I don't know :P
16:44 <ivantis2> its crazy
16:44 <epsy> yeah, well it took time to get to this point
16:45 <ivantis2> i get that it could do everything else, but that it could time...
16:45 <ivantis2> i mean, how does it tick?
16:46 <epsy> hm?
16:46 <epsy> hrm I'd better buy a new harddrive
16:46 <ivantis2> how does it meassure how fast it ticks?
16:46 <epsy> actually two
16:46 <epsy> I don't know lol
16:47 <ivantis2> i have always wondered that
16:49 <ivantis2> epsy, do you ever text message during classes?
16:49 <epsy> happens
16:50 <ivantis2> bad!
16:50 <ivantis2> cheat on tests?
16:50 <epsy> proffessor's fault
16:50 <epsy> no
16:51 <epsy> if they had an interesting thing to teach [and do teach it correctly], I wouldn't be using me phone in their class, simple
16:51 <ivantis2> whats your number and time zone? ill send you one during school
16:51 <epsy> look at my whois info
16:51  * epsy roffels
16:52 <epsy> not responding to ctcp time, apparently
16:53 <ivantis2> whats ur number then¿
16:53 <epsy> my clock shows 16:52, I am in CET
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17:19 <epsy> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjQ3Ng
17:19 <epsy> O_O
17:19 <epsy> « .. but through the use of this Intel Graphics Execution Manager, the Intel i915 Linux performance has been improved by 50% in OpenArena and glxgears is running 60% faster .. »
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17:56 <smoothice> epsy
17:56 <epsy> hello
17:57 <smoothice> epsy: Xcode returns a whole heck of a lot of errors.
17:57 <epsy> can you pastebin these?
17:57 <smoothice> 2222 of them?
17:57 <epsy> we're talking about 0.2.8+sty, and not 0.2.8+sty+ct right?
17:58 <epsy> well, trim it down
17:58 <smoothice> Yes
17:58 <smoothice> I have trouble compiling standard too.
17:58 <smoothice> Not just w/sty.
17:59 <smoothice> Now that I look at the errors again it seemed to me like it cannot find the SDL libaries.
17:59 <epsy> ah, so you're compilign a client?
18:00 <smoothice> I was trying to compile server....
18:00 <epsy> you must have missed something
18:00 <smoothice> SDL_opengl.g: No such file or directory
18:01 <smoothice> and sometimes SDL.h: No such file or directory
18:01 <epsy> well it wont look for SDL if it's trying to build a dedi
18:01 <epsy> @aawikis osx build
18:01 <teabot> epsy: no results for: osx build site:wiki.armagetronad.net
18:02 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Mac_OS_X doesn't say how to build a dedi..
18:03 <smoothice> armagetronad-dedicated is included in the xcode project
18:03 <epsy> isnt there some kind of dialog where you can select targets to build?
18:06 <smoothice> I put the Framework thing in /Library/Frameworks and now it failed with 3 errors :D
18:06 <epsy> paste
18:06 <smoothice> Ok
18:08 <smoothice> http://rafb.net/p/Bqseab74.html
18:10 <smoothice> And now I selected just the armagetronad-dedicated target and I get one error: /Users/admin/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/MacOS/../src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:49:31: error: nKrawallPrivate.cpp: No such file or directory
18:12 <smoothice> epsy: Any ideas? It looks like I'm missing that one file
18:13 <epsy> second
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18:15 <Hrmph> fricking internet
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18:20 <smoothice> epsy: ???
18:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: no, I don't mind at all. If someone is willing to tweak them, let them go ahead :-)
18:23 <epsy> smoothice, making sure it compiles here, before merging from mainling(=updating to be in sync with last code)
18:23 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ok :)
18:23 <epsy> I'll put it under revision control
18:23 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: note that you need to define the toggle key in the <MapModes> tag, not in the <Map> itself
18:23 <smoothice> epsy: I didn't mege any changes.... but branched
18:23 <epsy> yeah, I'm doing that
18:23 <epsy> you will have to bzr pull
18:24 <smoothice> epsy: wait... so I to obtain the code I did bzr branch ...
18:24 <smoothice> epsy: you're telling to do what differently?
18:24 <smoothice> me*
18:25 <epsy> nothing, for now just wait :)
18:26 <smoothice> epsy: ok thanks... :/ :)
18:26 <epsy> ok seems to compile
18:28 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: and it should be a different one than that in the <Map> tag
18:28 <smoothice> epsy: 0.2.8 sty?
18:29 <epsy> yes, pushed
18:29 <epsy> should be downloadable within a few minutes
18:29 <epsy> if not already
18:29 <epsy> smoothice, use a terminal, go to the dir where you put the source and type bzr pull
18:30 <smoothice> k
18:30 <epsy> in case it complains not knowig about where to pull from, use bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
18:31 <smoothice> All changes applied successfully.
18:31 <smoothice> Now on revision 881.
18:32 <smoothice> Compile with Xcode now?
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18:33 <epsy> yeah
18:35 <smoothice> Build succeeded!
18:35 <epsy> :)
18:36 <epsy> have fun
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18:44 <TaZ> Hi friends, and Lizmatic, luke-jr Lucifer
18:45 <hoop> i've solved it btew epsy
18:46 <epsy> it?
18:46 <epsy> oh
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19:00 <epsy> smoothice, better use --userconfigdir
19:00 <smoothice> epsy: ok
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19:01 <smoothice> epsy: when I run it I get this: http://rafb.net/p/7PduWZ47.html
19:01 <epsy> well, run it from the build dir or install it
19:01 <smoothice> I ran it from the build dir
19:02 <epsy> from a console?
19:02 <smoothice> Yes
19:02 <epsy> with pwd showing the path before armagetron-dedicated ?
19:02 <smoothice> Yes
19:02 <epsy> try using --datadir
19:03 <smoothice> to what directory
19:03 <smoothice> config?
19:03 <epsy> the builg dir, where textures/ and language/ reside
19:03 <smoothice> ok
19:03 <epsy> build*
19:04 <epsy> tpyoday :<
19:04 <epsy> :(
19:04 <smoothice> epsy: it worked!
19:04 <Lizmatic> parents are horrible creatures
19:04 <Lizmatic> -_-
19:04 <smoothice> epsy: You are magical :)
19:04 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: is mapmode suppsoed to be inside map, or is it supposed to be a separate beast?
19:05 <smoothice> epsy: what changes did you have to commit
19:05 <epsy> Lizmatic, how are the resulting creatures? :)
19:05 <epsy> I just merged from mainline(0.2.8)
19:06 <smoothice> epsy: so if I branch again those changes will be applied?
19:06 <smoothice> epsy: or do I have to bzr pull each time
19:07 <epsy> bzr pull pulls revisions to your tree if there are new ones on the tree to be pulled from
19:07 <epsy> branch creates a new branch
19:07 <smoothice> so if I branch again I won't have to pull
19:07 <smoothice> since branch gets latest changes?
19:07 <epsy> basically: bzr branch -> new branch; bzr pull -> update branch
19:07 <smoothice> ok
19:08 <smoothice> so creating a new branch won't always be fully up to date?
19:08 <epsy> it will
19:08 <smoothice> ok
19:09 <epsy> and you can also tackle with bzr merge, but you said you didn't know much about c++ so if there are conflicts you probably wont know to do
19:09 <epsy> if you do bzr merge lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 it will *try* to merge from mainline
19:10 <epsy> if you are lucky there will be no conflicts
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19:12 <smoothice> So when you did your stuff earlier you merged using bzr merge and then committed the changes?
19:13 <epsy> yeah, except I had a conflict to resolve
19:13 <epsy> and I also pushed the branch, as it was a branch instead of a checkout
19:13 <smoothice> ok thanks
19:14 <epsy> yw
19:14 <epsy> if you get problems with that, we're here
19:14 <epsy> if you need help with bzr in particular you can also try in #bzr
19:14 <SageLord> .tea
19:14 <tronner> SageLord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:14 <smoothice> epsy: thanks... and again... you're magical
19:14 <SageLord> :(
19:14 <smoothice> epsy: :)
19:14 <epsy> hehe
19:14 <epsy> thanks, you're welcome
19:15 <smoothice> .dns smootharma.homelinux.com
19:15 <tronner> smoothice:
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19:16 <hoop> SageLord: join fortress club plzz!
19:17 <armabot> lpbugs: [307911] SERVER_DNS doesn't set sn_myAddress
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19:20 <G5> Monkey_arma: any last instructions for the match? How will you do team building?
19:21 <Monkey_arma> I will just follow K-yo and epsy's rules
19:21 <Monkey_arma> which state that teams just form themselves
19:21 <G5> Ok ... then we do that. Any see what happens :)
19:21 <G5> *And
19:22 <Monkey_arma> im sure after each matchday, rules will get altered and improved
19:22 <Monkey_arma> 32 players now so...its a start
19:22 <redne> what tourney is it you are playing in? XD
19:22 <K-Yo> G5: you read the rules?
19:22 <Lizmatic> wait, is there a match today?
19:22 <epsy> oh yeah that's today
19:22 <G5> Yeah I did ... but Im not sure "on the spot" will work
19:23 <K-Yo> redne, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:23 <Lizmatic> am I in it? I forgot
19:23 <K-Yo> G5, we'll see, I'm not sure either
19:23 <redne> cool
19:23 <Lizmatic> oh, I am in it
19:23 <epsy> :D
19:23 <G5> We will do a final match, winner match 1 vs winner match 2?
19:23 <redne> what time does it go down
19:23 <K-Yo> G5, also, being the admin, you have the last word on a conflict during match.
19:23 <Lizmatic> its in an hour?
19:24 <K-Yo> in one hour yes
19:24 <epsy> yeah
19:24 <redne> ah
19:24 <K-Yo> G5, I don't think so, I think some ppl mentionned it on the forums
19:24 <Lizmatic> what server
19:24 <Lizmatic> ?
19:24 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, read
19:24 <redne> ill have to get on the next one for sure
19:24 <K-Yo> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:24 <epsy> @help linkff
19:24 <epsy> @help linkfff
19:24 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "linkff".
19:24  * Lizmatic is blind
19:24 <Lizmatic> doh
19:24 <teabot> epsy: (linkfff <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [bold FFF]: [linkformat http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/]".
19:24 <redne> rednender
19:24 <redne> hah
19:25 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r881 merging from mainline
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <K-Yo> :P
19:25 <G5> I bet there will be some free spots. We never had a match with all players showing up ...
19:25 <epsy> @alias add linkom "echo [bold Organised Matches]: [linkformat ]http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches"
19:25 <epsy> gah
19:25 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:25 <epsy> @alias add linkom "echo [bold Organised Matches]: [linkformat http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches]"
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:25 <teabot> Organised Matches : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:25 <K-Yo> @linkom
19:25 <hoop> epsy: need help on settings
19:25 <teabot> Organised Matches : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Matches
19:25 <epsy> hoop, yeah?
19:26 <K-Yo> @bold blah blah
19:26 <teabot> K-Yo: blah blah
19:26 <epsy> K-Yo, need to try some more times?
19:26 <K-Yo> doesn't work here
19:26 <redne> i would fill in as alternate but im a little busy today :(
19:26 <K-Yo> epsy, u see the bold? I don't
19:26 <redne> nah
19:26 <hoop> epsy: can u join fortress club plz
19:26 <epsy> K-Yo, no, channel is color-filtered
19:26 <K-Yo> ok
19:26 <G5> Bold? Where?
19:26 <redne> lol
19:26 <G5> This is bold, I hope ...
19:28 <redne> bold?
19:29 <redne> hey hoop im gonna need some server help later this week if thats cool
19:29 <redne> new racing server should be up today
19:29 <redne> im a total noob when it come to hacks and compiling
19:29 <redne> and i really want the time hack to work on my server
19:30 <Lizmatic> Flex won't show up for the match..
19:32 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, remove his name then please :)
19:34 <Lizmatic> cba
19:34 <Lizmatic> just sayin', he won't show
19:36 <K-Yo> he told ya that?
19:40 <BabyBug> \o/ \o/ \o/ 'Cause you're hot then you're cold, You're yes then you're no, You're in and you're out, You're up and you're down \o/ \o/ \o/
19:44 <K-Yo> BabyBug, nowai!
19:44 <K-Yo> I was just singing this song in my head
19:44 <BabyBug> =D
19:44 <K-Yo> and I saw u wrote down the lyrics!
19:44 <redne> hehe
19:44 <K-Yo> well
19:44 <K-Yo> eating time
19:44 <K-Yo> ;)
19:45 <K-Yo> write what I'll sing on coming back ;)
19:45 <wrtlprnft_> Lucifer: inside
19:45 <wrtlprnft_> just the way it is in the default cockpit
19:45 <redne> :O
19:46 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: do you want to play in the place of Flex?
19:47 <BabyBug> If he doesn't show and there's no one else, sure =)
19:47 <madmax> wth is katy perry?
19:48 <BabyBug> madmax, go die
19:48 <epsy> wrtlprnft_, err, concord just had the Permission denied(Public key) error
19:48 <Lizmatic> he won't show.. we know that xD
19:48 <Paralyzed> @g armagetron map previewer
19:48 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17381 - Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Yet Another Map Previewer
19:48 <Paralyzed> not that
19:48 <BabyBug> You never know Lizmatic, he might get a sudden dose of maturity and sanity =D
19:48 <Paralyzed> -.-
19:49 <Lizmatic> lo0l
19:49 <epsy> "that" is the best one
19:50 <epsy> Paralyzed, where are you getting trouble at?
19:50 <Paralyzed> oh nothing i got it
19:50 <Paralyzed> i was just signing up a user for my resource and need a map prview
19:50 <epsy> ..but?
19:50 <Paralyzed> but i used CT
19:55 <BabyBug> madmax, surely you've heard this song -----> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlp9N8l8Tio
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19:56 <Monkey_arma> unignore hoop
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19:56 <madmax> BabyBug: hah yeah. had no idea who sang it though
19:56  * BabyBug face palms
19:57 <epsy> @title http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlp9N8l8Tio
19:57 <Monkey_arma> we'll see how it goes
19:57 <teabot> epsy: YouTube - Katy Perry - I Kissed a Girl (True HD)
19:57 <sinewav> That song sucks.
19:57 <madmax> BabyBug: but I don't like so
19:57 <BabyBug> .....
19:58 <Lizmatic> BabyBug LOOOOVES that song
19:58 <madmax> this one is better than hot'n'cold though
19:58 <BabyBug> =D
19:58 <BabyBug> hot'n'cold is ok...i prefer I kissed a girl though...but Katy Perry rox full stop!
19:59 <madmax> heh
19:59 <epsy> oh, that one..annoying
19:59 <BabyBug> she opened Youtube Live \o/
20:00 <Lizmatic> she's just singing it for attention tho
20:00 <BabyBug> It worked though didn't it? =D
20:00 <epsy> BabyBug, nice nick btw
20:00 <BabyBug> hrmmm?
20:00 <Lizmatic> definitly did xD
20:00 <epsy> @g babybug
20:01 <teabot> epsy: http://www.cricketmag.com/ProductDetail.asp?pid=10 - Babybug Magazine: The Award-Winning Magazine for infants and ...
20:01 <Lizmatic> lo0l
20:01 <Lizmatic> @g epsy
20:01 <epsy> well, google it
20:01 <teabot> Lizmatic: http://www.epsy.com/ - EPSY - Marketing and Social Research
20:01 <BabyBug> Woooo i own a magazine
20:01 <G5> K-Yo: Can an admin lock a team without being on that team?
20:01 <epsy> and also some sex toys
20:01 <K-Yo> G5, no, not from what I know
20:01 <epsy> G5, no
20:01 <Lizmatic> hahahaha
20:01 <Lizmatic> @ sextoys
20:02 <Lizmatic> a baby-magazine and sextoys.. well, that name fits perfectly!
20:02 <K-Yo> G5, can u op? /op <player> 7
20:02 <G5> K-Yo: On match 1 and 2 servers, can players (not logged in) lock and invite?
20:02 <epsy> zomg learn BabyBug is known for her sextoys
20:02 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:02 <K-Yo> G5, only if u op them
20:02 <BabyBug> O.o
20:02 <G5> K-Yo: ok ...
20:02  * BabyBug hides from epsy 
20:03 <K-Yo> G5, if u wanna try, I'm in 1
20:03 <epsy> :P
20:03 <BabyBug> How are they deciding the teams for the matches?
20:04 <SageLord> hey, what about winning team from group 1 vs. winning team from group 2 once matches finish?
20:05 <epsy> meh
20:05 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: was TaZ intentionally excluding you, I, and Lucifer from "friends"?
20:05 <Paralyzed> @g tron-hq resource
20:05  * sinewav like the sage's idea
20:05 <teabot> Paralyzed: http://tron-hq.net/resource/ - Map Resource
20:05 <Paralyzed> :D w00t
20:06 <redne> :)
20:06 <luke-jr> fail
20:06 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: who cares about that dumb fuck
20:07 <luke-jr> http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/ <-- main resource repo
20:07 <Paralyzed> luke-jr: no one
20:07 <Lizmatic> =D
20:07 <Paralyzed> luke thats nice
20:07 <Paralyzed> thanks for the info man :]
20:07 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: you know, you could contribute properly instead
20:07 <luke-jr> like, make a nice design for the main repository uploader
20:07 <Paralyzed> oh really now
20:07 <epsy> or let it allow other stuff that just maps..
20:07 <Paralyzed> that'd be fun
20:08 <luke-jr> epsy: afaik, the main uploader supports anything with a DTD and resource XML base
20:08 <Paralyzed> How could i go about making a design
20:08 <epsy> config files don't have a DTD
20:08 <Paralyzed> access to anything or must i do it at my own base?
20:08 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: checkout the svn code and modify it
20:08 <epsy> what about textures?
20:08 <Paralyzed> Ok.
20:08 <Paralyzed> Wait, svn
20:09 <Paralyzed> its not php based?
20:09 <luke-jr> epsy: config files aren't resources
20:09 <luke-jr> epsy: neither are textures yet
20:09 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: sure it is
20:09 <luke-jr> Paralyzed: but like all code, it is stored in svn
20:09 <Paralyzed> Ok, is see.
20:09 <Paralyzed> I*
20:09 <Paralyzed> ill just make a sample form on my own
20:09 <epsy> blahblahblah...
20:09 <Paralyzed> and have someone like you or wrtl modify it in
20:10 <luke-jr> …….
20:10 <Paralyzed> you dont understand now
20:10 <Paralyzed> but you will
20:10 <luke-jr> what makes you think wrtl or I want to spend time working on such things?
20:11 <Paralyzed> im going to make the design
20:11 <Paralyzed> but i have no access so someone will have to input in
20:11 <Paralyzed> obviously
20:11 <luke-jr> obviously you can still make it with a read-only copy
20:11 <luke-jr> epsy: how can I disable spam protection?
20:11 <luke-jr> or bypass it..
20:12 <epsy> without code changes?
20:12 <luke-jr> yeah
20:12 <luke-jr> well, the client is wrtl's PHP lib
20:13 <luke-jr> so changes there are acceptable
20:13 <epsy> but it wont be fully off
20:14 <luke-jr> no?
20:14 <luke-jr> how do I make it fully off?
20:14 <luke-jr> :/
20:14 <K-Yo> .si flagfort
20:14 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress!: Players (3/8): Alex, cT¤K-Yo, ctt_sine.wav
20:14 <luke-jr> ⚀ User 1 kicked, reason given to him: You have been auto-kicked for spamming. You chatted too much.
20:14 <luke-jr> that's 1 line of chat -.-
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20:15 <K-Yo> .ls Alex
20:15 <tronner> K-Yo: Alex seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
20:15 <luke-jr> .si mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr): Players (0/12):
20:16 <luke-jr> .si mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr): Players (0/12):
20:16 <luke-jr> .si -v mcp
20:16 <tronner> luke-jr: MCP Attack (new game mode by Luke-Jr) ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080126 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org, Description: “Hosted on Luke-Jr's Armagetron Servers -- http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, Players (0/12):
20:21 <wrtlprnft_> epsy: you sure his client uses a key?
20:22 <sinewav> luke: you get that game to work yet?
20:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft_, well, we generated a key and so forth
20:22 <K-Yo> .si orga
20:22 <tronner> K-Yo: Organised Matches - MATCH 1: Players (5/26): ¦×¦ Lizmatic (Lizmatic@forums), BabyBug, MaZuffeR (MaZuffeR@forums), Monkey (Monkey@forums), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~
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20:23 <wrtlprnft_> did he use the default location?
20:24 <epsy> I hope so
20:24 <wrtlprnft_> ask him or use -i
20:24 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
20:24 <epsy> at the ssh line?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> 1
20:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
20:28 <wrtlprnft> i understand.
20:29 <luke-jr> sinewav: no, anti-spam breaks it
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20:31 <TwelvHunj> ho!
20:31 <Monkey_arma> hey TwelvHunj
20:31 <TwelvHunj> im here....
20:31 <Monkey_arma> kyo suggested just getting all people into one server after match
20:32 <TwelvHunj> yours?
20:32  * luke-jr burps.
20:32 <Monkey_arma> hmm  think he meant ours but ...hmm
20:33 <Monkey_arma> yes ours
20:33 <TwelvHunj> ok
20:33 <TwelvHunj> there's a situation in server 2. Do two captains pick one player at a time to form team on the spot or no?
20:34 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes, TaZ was intentionally excluding us from his list of friends
20:34 <Lucifer> it's a compliment, take it for what it's worth :)
20:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: interesting
20:34 <Corn> hey monkey you there
20:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I almost have a werewolf game working in arma chat ☺
20:34 <Corn> #echo monkey
20:34 <armabot> monkey
20:34 <Lucifer> #echo Cornholio
20:34 <armabot> Cornholio
20:35 <Corn> :o
20:35 <TwelvHunj> there's a situation in server 2. Do two captains pick one player at a time to form team on the spot or no?
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls freako
20:36 <sinewav> 1200, there is no rule for captains, so make one up
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls desolate
20:36 <MrBougo> #echo Lucifer
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
20:36 <armabot> Lucifer
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: Desolate has last been seen on Crazy Tronners fortress Test Server 2 hours 49 minutes ago.
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls szopin
20:36 <TwelvHunj> ok but isnt that how previous vip matches were carried out??
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: timed out
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls speed
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: xxxx speed xxxx has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 55 minutes ago.
20:36 <K-Yo> .ls I/O bus
20:36 <tronner> K-Yo: I/O Bus has last been seen on Fortress Café 19 hours 5 minutes ago.
20:37 <Corn> organized matches my ass these are very organized at all
20:37 <Corn> arent*
20:37 <TwelvHunj> for reals
20:37 <TwelvHunj> we don't even know how to form teams...i think there shud be 2 captains and they shud pick one at at time so it'll be even
20:38 <Corn> i agreee
20:38 <sinewav> `then do it
20:39 <K-Yo> TwelvHunj, Corn forums were ready for that, you could have make rules, you did not, then you can't really complain
20:39 <TwelvHunj> im not complaining im just stating facts
20:40 <Corn> i am merely critiquing the match in an aggressive manner
20:40 <Concord> LOL!
20:40 <TwelvHunj> well G5 is admin and he is like just join the teams you want but people are saying we dont' want uneven teams
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20:56 <Paralyzed> @g Dr Tran
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21:02 <ivantis2> how do i find common multiples of 2 numbers?
21:03 <Lucifer> what's the opposite of tact?
21:03 <Lucifer> #dict tact
21:03 <armabot> Lucifer: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: tact n : consideration in dealing with others and avoiding giving offence [syn: {tactfulness}] [ant: {tactlessness}]; gcide: Tact \Tact\, n. [L. tactus a touching, touch, fr. tangere, tactum, to touch: cf. F. tact. See {Tangent}.] 1. The sense of touch; feeling. [1913 Webster] Did you suppose that I could not make myself sensible to tact (8 more messages)
21:03 <Lucifer> #more
21:03 <armabot> Lucifer: as well as sight? --Southey. [1913 Webster] Now, sight is a very refined tact. --J. Le Conte. [1913 Webster] 2. (Mus.) The stroke in beating time. [1913 Webster] 3. Sensitive mental touch; peculiar skill or faculty; nice perception or discernment; ready power of appreciating and doing what is required by circumstances. [1913 Webster] He had formed plans not inferior in grandeur and (7 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: boldness to those of Richelieu, and had carried them into effect with a tact and wariness worthy of Mazarin. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster] A tact which surpassed the tact of her sex as much as the tact of her sex surpassed the tact of ours. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 175 Moby Thesaurus words for "tact": ability, accommodatingness, acumen, acuteness, address, adeptness, (6 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: adroitness, agreeableness, airmanship, allergy, amenity, anaphylaxis, appreciation, appreciation of differences, appreciativeness, artfulness, artisanship, artistic judgment, artistry, attentiveness, bravura, brilliance, capability, capacity, care, carefulness, civility, cleverness, comity, command, competence, complaisance, concern, connoisseurship, considerateness, consideration, (5 more messages)
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21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: control, coordination, courteousness, courtesy, craft, craftsmanship, critical niceness, criticalness, cunning, deference, deftness, delicacy, dexterity, dexterousness, dextrousness, diplomacy, discernment, discretion, discriminating taste, discriminatingness, discrimination, discriminativeness, efficiency, empathy, expertise, exquisiteness, facility, fastidiousness, feel, feeling, fine (4 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: palate, fineness, finesse, gallantry, grace, gracefulness, graciousness, grip, handiness, head, heedfulness, helpfulness, horsemanship, hyperesthesia, hyperpathia, hypersensitivity, identification, indulgence, ingeniousness, ingenuity, irritability, judgement, judiciousness, know-how, leniency, making distinctions, marksmanship, mastership, mastery, mindfulness, nervousness, niceness of (3 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: distinction, nicety, obligingness, oversensibility, oversensitiveness, overtenderness, palate, passibility, perception, perceptiveness, perceptivity, photophobia, poise, policy, politeness, politesse, politicness, practical ability, presence, prickliness, proficiency, prowess, prudence, quickness, readiness, refined discrimination, refined palate, refinement, regard, regardfulness, (2 more messages)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: repose, resource, resourcefulness, respect, respectfulness, responsiveness, savoir faire, savoir-faire, savvy, seamanship, selectiveness, sense, sensibility, sensitiveness, sensitivity, sensitization, skill, skillfulness, smoothness, solicitousness, solicitude, soreness, style, suavity, subtlety, supersensitivity, sympathy, tactfulness, taste, technical brilliance, technical mastery, (1 more message)
21:04 <Lucifer> #more
21:04 <armabot> Lucifer: technical skill, technique, tenderness, tetchiness, thin skin, thought, thoughtfulness, ticklishness, timing, toleration, touchiness, understanding, urbanity, virtuosity, wit, wizardry, workmanship
21:04 <Lucifer> no antonyms?
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21:06 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-P4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:06 <P4> Paralyzed, hum?
21:06 <K-Yo> epsy, ??
21:06 <Lizmatic> epsy: ???!?!!!?1/1/!?psflgopdfhkdh
21:07 <Lizmatic> :D
21:07 <BabyBug> epsy wepsy!!!
21:07 <Lizmatic> EPILEPS
21:07 <Lizmatic> i
21:07 <Lizmatic> pepsy?
21:08 <Paralyzed> P4, yes?
21:08 <P4> 14Dec08 210618 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-P4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:09 <Paralyzed> Yea
21:09 -!- e_n_d_e_r [i=ender@] has joined #armagetron
21:09 <Paralyzed> it announces when you upload a map on resource.
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21:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic??
21:10 <Lizmatic> yesss?
21:11 <BabyBug> it's first to 3.......
21:11 <Monkey_arma> TwelvHunj it says on the site...k-yo made the rule about team choosing
21:11 <Lizmatic> ...
21:11  * Lizmatic fail'd
21:11 <BabyBug> get back! =P
21:12 <e_n_d_e_r> what time is the match (central u.s.)
21:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/stopsign-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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21:23 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, what match?
21:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/tron-hq-df-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:23 <P4> Paralyzed: is this map any realted to me? it has P4 in the name, why?
21:27 <Lizmatic> that sucked ballz
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21:27 <Monkey_arma> It will improve
21:28 <Monkey_arma> it was always going to be that way for the first match
21:28 <BabyBug> It sucked worse than ballz O.o
21:28 <sinewav> the sliding?
21:28 <sinewav> it was terrible for me
21:28  * ct|kyle forces BabyBug to cuddle herself :P
21:28 <Monkey_arma> i had no lag
21:28 <Monkey_arma> but you are from US so you are likely to get more
21:28  * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away as she has lisa to cuddle ^^
21:29 <sinewav> it was worse than I've seen it in a long time :(
21:29 <ct|kyle> only n00be blame lag for their own stupidty
21:29 <BabyBug> i was sliding a fair bit towards the end
21:30  * Lizmatic aww's @ babybug
21:30 <Lizmatic> plus I really don't like waiting
21:30 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/paralyzed-paintballfortress-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:30 <Lizmatic> people should show up in time
21:30 <Paralyzed> P4, no
21:30 <Lizmatic> if the same people are late again next week than suspend them tbh
21:30 <Paralyzed> P4, its the version p4
21:30 <Monkey_arma> lol that was the vip way Lizmatic
21:30 <Lizmatic> vip?
21:31 <Monkey_arma> you dont read forums?
21:31 <Lizmatic> which?
21:31 <Monkey_arma> arma
21:31 <Lizmatic> no..
21:31 <Monkey_arma> ah ok
21:31 <Lizmatic> should I? xD
21:31 <BabyBug> no...they're boring =D
21:31 <Monkey_arma> you do what you like
21:31 <sinewav> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18843
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21:33 <Lizmatic> my thoughts exactly babybug o_O
21:33 <Lizmatic> its all tech talk
21:33 <BabyBug> yerp
21:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/fortressarena-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:34 <Lizmatic> so why not do the vip rules?
21:34 <Lizmatic> strict rules are the best imo
21:34 <Monkey_arma> we will
21:34 <Monkey_arma> but for option 1 only
21:34 <Monkey_arma> so people have a choice
21:35 <Lizmatic> btw Lucifer, luke-jr: what is this friendslist you were speaking about? =P
21:35 <BabyBug> <TaZ> Hi friends, and Lizmatic, luke-jr Lucifer
21:35 <BabyBug> that =P
21:36 <sinewav> haha, that's so uncalled for
21:36 <Lizmatic> he's such a ghey
21:36 <BabyBug> Why is he singling you three out?
21:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: because you don't cuddle him enough :P
21:39 <Lizmatic> because I stepped on his weener when I critised America
21:40 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle: me thinks you have a crush on BabyBug
21:40 <ct|kyle> heh i criticize American and i'm an American
21:40 <sinewav> America sucks mostly
21:40 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: nope, you :P
21:41  * BabyBug stabs ct|kyle with a pitchfork
21:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/psychopath-5.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:41 <Paralyzed> :D
21:42 <Paralyzed> next map i advise everyone to envy ova :D
21:42 <Lizmatic> sinewav: lmao.. TaZ said, I quote "Europe thinks it owns the world"
21:43 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed maps suck i want a new map :P
21:43 <sinewav> :0
21:43 <ct|kyle> :P
21:43 <Paralyzed> Fudge you
21:44 <BabyBug> Fudge!! <3
21:44 <Paralyzed> ivantis:
21:44 <Lizmatic> haha, the drama @ arma forums
21:44 <Lizmatic> its so amusing
21:44 <Paralyzed> @g ivantis teliport hack
21:45 <Paralyzed> wait i forgot name
21:45 <Paralyzed> uhm..
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> heh
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> video game drama is the best
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> for sure
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> well all internet drama
21:45 <Paralyzed> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18682
21:45 <Paralyzed> there you go ender :]
21:45 <e_n_d_e_r> sweet thanks!
21:46 <Lizmatic> monkey I didn't know you were such a rebel
21:46 <Lizmatic> :D
21:47 <Monkey_arma> Lizmatic ye im big mouth
21:47 <Monkey_arma> like...er....you
21:51 <Lizmatic> I'm not a big mouth :O
21:51 <Monkey_arma> i will believe u
21:52 <BabyBug> pssst Monkey_arma don't believe her it's not true!!
21:54 <Lizmatic> BabyBug: you love it
21:54 <BabyBug> =D
21:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/loco-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
21:55 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/loco-3.aamap.xml , youve been owned
21:56 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/turtle/adventure/chasm_f-0.0.1.aamap.xml , you have been owned by sinewav :P
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21:57 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, i has not been owned because
21:57 <Paralyzed> ct|kyle, i can not see it :)
21:58 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: blow it up or
21:58 <sinewav> no wait...
21:58 <ct|kyle> .si advanced racing
21:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (0/3):
21:58 <ct|kyle> and see for yourself :P
21:58 <sinewav> http://adventuresoftron.com/chasm.png
21:58 <sinewav> se above for pwnage
21:59 <Paralyzed> F***! ive been owned.
21:59 <BabyBug> we need flying bikes in arma \o/
21:59 <sinewav> yes, yes you have owned. soz
22:00 <Monkey_arma> BabyBug i dont
22:01 <Paralyzed> sinewav, how much kb is that map costing you sheesh like 1gb? LOL
22:01  * Lizmatic yawns
22:02 <ct|kyle> Paralyzed: 55.4 kb for xml file of it
22:02 <G5> Monkey_arma: match was ok, teams were equal ... u saw how close it was ...
22:03 <Paralyzed> JESUS
22:03 <Paralyzed> CHRIST
22:03 <TwelvHunj> yea except we were man down most of the time
22:03 <G5> Monkey_arma: being admin ... worse as usual. noone listens ...
22:03 <TwelvHunj> but it was close
22:03 <sinewav> Para, most of my maps took sevral long days of drawing and coding.
22:03 <G5> TwelvHunj: you were at full strength when u lost :) 98 vs 98
22:04 <TwelvHunj> yea but matches 2 and 3 we played man down
22:04 <Lizmatic> G5: admins suck
22:04 <TwelvHunj> u won those 2 matches
22:04 <TwelvHunj> but u kno wuteva happens happens im not complaining
22:04 <ivantis2> #armagetron.tourneys ?
22:04 <Monkey_arma> G5 so that was the actual match oh
22:05 <Monkey_arma> well it looked ok
22:05 <Monkey_arma> match 1 was ok really.
22:06 <G5> Monkey_arma: yes. it took 30 mins to set up teams ... as I said ...
22:06 <Monkey_arma> G5 it was expected in the first matches
22:07 <Monkey_arma> ye i know what being admin is like..
22:07 <MaZuffeR> G5, did you use captains?
22:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/PentaRace-4.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:08 <Paralyzed> sinewav, nice
22:08 <G5> Monkey_arma: I know that u know :)
22:08 <Monkey_arma> heh
22:08 <Lizmatic> srsly, we should hurry next time
22:08  * Lizmatic is the most impatient person in the world
22:08 <G5> MaZuffeR: yes, in the end ... most players asked for it ... but then they votes without me. I didnt even know what team I am on ... :(
22:09 <G5> *voted
22:09 <MaZuffeR> takes forever to setup if you use captains, as we already know from vip
22:09 <sinewav> ;)
22:10 <G5> MaZuffeR: it could go sooooo fast ... all go spec, captains vote, player enter they team. But it takes like 5 mins to make all go spec ... and so on ...
22:10 <G5> *their
22:11 <G5> Then admin says: jjbean is blue ... jjbean says: Im gold ... and so on
22:11 <Lizmatic> you'd think so
22:11 <TwelvHunj> i think captains shud be pre-designated
22:12 <Lizmatic> but people don't listen
22:12 <Lizmatic> -_-
22:12 <MaZuffeR> i know it could, but people dont understand to shut up and listen
22:12 <G5> can admin set team_max_players 0?
22:12 <G5> and what is sp_team_max_players vs team_max_players?
22:13 <G5> so, admin has to suspend and silence them all ...
22:14 <MaZuffeR> they still won't listen ;)
22:15 <Lucifer> BabyBug: because I kicked him for acting and being stupid
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22:15 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ahhhhh....I don't really need luke-jr to answer the question...It's understandable why someone wouldn't like him \o/ :o
22:15 <Lucifer> haha
22:15 <Lucifer> I see you're a woman with taste
22:16 <BabyBug> ;)
22:17 <Monkey_arma> MaZuffeR lol so true
22:17 <Lucifer> wow, all this time I thought lizmatic was the same liz that's in the FA clan
22:17 <Monkey_arma> the captain thing can work really fast in theory
22:18 <Lucifer> no wonder she's confused why I called her a kangaroo lover
22:18 <MaZuffeR> lol
22:18 <Monkey_arma> i think we got that working not too bad by the last few matches
22:19 <Monkey_arma> its not the choosing that takes the time it is people realising what team they are on
22:19 <Monkey_arma> realising = listening yes
22:20 <BabyBug> why don't you pre arrange the teams? =\
22:20 <TwelvHunj> or pre arrange the captains at least cos we dont kno who;s gonna show
22:21 <Lucifer> what if captains don't show?
22:21 <BabyBug> oh Lucifer shush...lol
22:21 <TwelvHunj> what if the admin doesnt show?
22:21 <TwelvHunj> what if no one shows?
22:21 <Lucifer> what if the server doesn't show?
22:21 <G5> 80% of the players today didnt even read the rules ... no help there ...
22:21 <TwelvHunj> well its better to at least have captains than to decide on the day i think
22:21 <Lucifer> rules?  are there rules besides what's in settings_custom.cfg ?
22:22 <G5> And 15% showed late, 40% didnt show at all ...
22:22 <TwelvHunj> i read the rules it doesnt say much
22:23 <Lucifer> there are certain realities to this sort of thing you just have to deal with :)
22:23 <Lucifer> I haven't been paying much attention (I ignore anything that says "VIP", because I'm not a "VIP"), but I'd say pick the captains on game day
22:23 <G5> Rule: Teams are formed "on the spot" i.e. you join the team you wish, players will try to avoid too uneven teams
22:23 <Lucifer> then have them pick teams, like that one guy was suggesting (or is this the tournament he was talking about?)
22:23 <TwelvHunj> yea i never argued that point
22:24 <TwelvHunj> i just said we should have captains
22:24 <Lucifer> or use a irc bot to randomly assign players to teams, that could be fun
22:24 <Lucifer> you check in with the bot, and it tells you what server to join
22:24 <sinewav> captains are the basis of the Brawl. It is to be determined if that is better.
22:24 <sinewav> maybe one of the two events will survive?
22:24 <Lucifer> sinewav: we used to do informal team games that way :)  (back before there was a fortress)
22:25 <TwelvHunj> well i think that should be changed in the rules....i didnt realize but thats what it sayz
22:25 <TwelvHunj> "just join the teams you want" LOL
22:25 <Lucifer> I like playground rrules
22:26 <Lucifer> "I'm captain!"  "I'm captain!"  "Ok, we've got two captains, you pick first"
22:26 <Lucifer> and the fat kid is always picked last
22:26 <TwelvHunj> u mean fat fingered kid
22:26 <G5> I think registration should open 1 hour before match and end 15 minutes before match. So players will really show up ...
22:26 <Lucifer> and that's only because the nerd never gets picked
22:27 <TwelvHunj> 1 hour's too long maybe 20 or 30 mins
22:27 <G5> the nerd is only allowed to play because his mother says so
22:27 <Lucifer> hey, if you couldn't pick nerds or fat kids in arma, you'd be left with punks
22:28 <G5> TwelvHunj: then 20/5 minutes
22:28 <Lucifer> luckily, on the grid, everyone has the same mass
22:28 <TwelvHunj> G5 -> Thats better
22:28 <TwelvHunj> what mass?
22:28 <G5> Monkey_arma: u r listening ...
22:28 <Monkey_arma> yes
22:28 <Monkey_arma> that is similar again to vip
22:29 <Lucifer> mass is the measurement of how much matter a thing has in it....
22:29 <TwelvHunj> yea i know there is no mass
22:29 <G5> and that was really good in vip
22:29 <Lucifer> G5: you're only allowing 15 minutes then for everyone to sign up
22:29 <Monkey_arma> ye
22:29 <Monkey_arma> but not everyone likes that level of strictness
22:29 <G5> Lucifer: why not?
22:29 <Monkey_arma> as you can see
22:29 <Lucifer> because then you'll get 75% of players show up late :)
22:29 <TwelvHunj> if we make strict people will learn to show on time
22:29 <G5> Lucifer: or do u see a technical problem with the wiki here?
22:29 <Monkey_arma> vip allowed people to signup upto 20 mins before match
22:30 <Monkey_arma> ok food time
22:30 <Lucifer> I don't see a specific technical problem, but if one should arise, 15 minutes doesn't give enough time to compensate
22:30 <G5> Lucifer: that only 10% more than today :)
22:30 <TwelvHunj> Shud make it so that if they show late they have chance of losing the spot as well... cos switching players in the middle of the match is distracting....just like my team was 2day
22:31 <Lucifer> stagger the spots?
22:31 <Lucifer> the first 16 players that show up play together, anybody who shows up after that plays in a new match
22:31 <Lucifer> require a minimum number of players before a game can start?
22:31 <TwelvHunj> food time also
22:31 <Lucifer> like, if 10 show up on time, then it's 5 v 5, and as soon as 10 more show up, a new game can start
22:32 <Lucifer> then nobody's really *late*
22:32 <Lucifer> they're just too late to pick their team :)
22:32 <Lucifer> because if 30 people all show up together, they can pick their teams
22:32 <G5> yeah, why not ... have to think about it
22:32 <TwelvHunj> well they can join next match maybe so after the end of the match captains can pick again
22:33 <Lucifer> this looks more like a meetup to play than a tournament, is that pretty much what it is?
22:33 <sinewav> From wiki:if a registered player comes before the end of the first match they will switch after the end of the first match. If a registered player comes after the first match is over, he cannot take someone else's spot by force
22:34 <sinewav> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches/Guidelines_and_Rules
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22:38 <Ratchet--> does anyone but luke have access to resource browser account manager
22:39 <Lizmatic> are you sure that's what you're looking for, or is it pussy lips?
22:40 <Ratchet--> both perhaps
22:40 <Ratchet--> would you give me option two?
22:42 <noob13> ;D
22:42 <sinewav> lol at pussy lips!
22:43 <sinewav> I remember that
22:43 <Ratchet--> of course you do
22:43 <Ratchet--> ;P
22:43 <Lizmatic> its the epic fail of tron
22:43 <Ratchet--> lol
22:44 <Ratchet--> epiic win in my world <3
22:44 <sinewav> ;-)
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22:46 <Ratchet--> hey lucy
22:47 <Ady-Lucifer> hi
22:47 <Ratchet--> do you have access to accounts on resource?
22:47 <Ratchet--> sinewav: check out my just made race
22:47 <Ratchet--> http://maptools.armagetronad.net/map-preview/previews/Ratchet/zigzag-1.png
22:48 <Ratchet--> ignore the abnormal spawns for now
22:49 <sinewav> Ratchet: nice win zone fake outs
22:50 <Ratchet--> sinewav:  actually i figured out a while back a win zone over a death zone is orange
22:51 <TwelvHunj> <- always lookin for pussy lips
22:51 <Ratchet--> and the ones that appear green, aside from the one on the far left that is a valid win, is going to be orange
22:51 <TwelvHunj> no only pink ones
22:51 <sinewav> Neat idea ratch!
22:51 <Ratchet--> lol
22:51 <Ratchet--> thx
22:52 <Ratchet--> i should make a map with all wz over dz
22:52 <Ratchet--> and submit it to dd
22:52 <Ratchet--> people would think it was a rubber map
22:52 <Ratchet--> and then they'd die
22:53 <Ratchet--> Ady-Lucifer: i need a forgot pw for my resource account =/
22:53 <Ratchet--> Lucifer: ditto
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22:56 <BabyBug> madmax
22:57 <Paralyzed> Ratchet--: how to make diagnal spawns?
22:57 <madmax> BabyBug
22:57 <BabyBug> <3
22:58 <hoop> may i put that map on DD race Ratchet--?
22:59 <Paralyzed> hold on ill msn the noob
23:00 <K-Yo> Paralyzed, xdir & ydir
23:00 <Paralyzed> K-yo: thankyou
23:00 <K-Yo> np
23:02 <Paralyzed> k he should reply in 5 seconds
23:02 <Paralyzed> if im right :]
23:02 <Ratchet--> hoop: yes
23:02 <Paralyzed> LOL!
23:02 <Paralyzed> 4 seconds oh well
23:02 <Ratchet--> ill upload it to paras name
23:02 <Ratchet--> 1 sec
23:03 <Ratchet--> paras uplading for me
23:03 <hoop> k thanks :D
23:03  * Paralyzed checks for those naughty 1 point lines
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23:05 <madmax> BabyBug: </3
23:05 <BabyBug> bitch
23:06 <Ratchet--> lol
23:06 <Ratchet--> hoop left rofl
23:07 <Paralyzed> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/race/zigzag-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
23:07 <Paralyzed> LOL
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23:24 <Ratchet--> #echo boom boom boom
23:24 <armabot> boom boom boom
23:24 <Ratchet--> .ls
23:24 <tronner> Ratchet--: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
23:24 <Ratchet--> #lastseen -g Ratchet--
23:24 <armabot> Ratchet--: I haven't seen anyone matching “Ratchet--” yet, sorry.
23:25 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet--
23:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:25 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet--
23:25 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- was last seen in #armagetron 14 seconds ago: <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet--
23:25 <Ratchet--> #seen Ratchet--
23:25 <armabot> Ratchet--: Ratchet-- was last seen in #armagetron 10 seconds ago: <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet--
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find nat
23:25 <Ratchet--> #find sex
23:25 <Ratchet--> wtf!
23:25 <Ratchet--> # GETSEX
23:26 <sinewav> lol!
23:26 <Paralyzed> .ls sinenak3d
23:26 <sinewav> if only it was that easy...
23:26 <Paralyzed> LOL
23:26 <Ratchet--> one day it will be
23:26 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:26 <Paralyzed> lol aww
23:26 <Ratchet--> there will be technopussy
23:26 <Ratchet--> you just stick it in and get a blowjob!
23:26 <Ratchet--> voila!
23:27 <Ratchet--> i will invent one!
23:27 <sinewav> good idea
23:27 <Ratchet--> *blow job machine.. she even swallows!!*
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23:29 <Ratchet--> #add
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
23:29 <Ratchet--> #add alias
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
23:29 <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:29 <tronner> smoothice: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 1 minute, and 46 seconds ago: <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
23:29 <Ratchet--> #alias add
23:29 <armabot> Ratchet--: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and (1 more message)
23:29 <smoothice> .seen smoothice
23:29 <tronner> smoothice: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 18 seconds ago: <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:29 <sinewav> .si experience
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias add Ratchet Ratchet
23:30 <tronner> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> TRON Experience <<: Players (2/6): ctt_sine.wav, ukimalefu
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
23:30 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet
23:30 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias Ratchet
23:30 <sinewav> .si experience
23:30 <tronner> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> TRON Experience <<: Players (4/6): ctt_sine.wav, noob13, patrickspiers§, ukimalefu
23:30 <Ratchet--> er hows that work
23:30 <Ratchet--> #seen Ratchet
23:30 <smoothice> .si ctf
23:30 <tronner> smoothice: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (7/10): 1inE, Edward, Eric, Monkey.D.Luffy, Neo_The_Real_1, QuantumSquirrel, ~Cyclops
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
23:30 <Ratchet--> #alias add Ratchet-- Ratchet
23:30 <armabot> Ratchet--: Ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 12 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
23:31 <armabot> Ratchet--: The operation succeeded.
23:31 <Ratchet--> lmao
23:31 <smoothice> .si capture the flag shooting
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: smooth's network - capture the flag shooting: Players (0/10):
23:31 <Ratchet--> .ls Ratchet
23:31 <smoothice> .si hold the flag
23:31 <ct|kyle> .flag
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: timed out
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: smooth's network - hold the flag: Players (0/8):
23:31 <tronner> Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<<: Players (0/10):
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen Ratchet
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: Ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 12 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
23:31 <smoothice> .seen epsy
23:31 <tronner> smoothice: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <epsy> wrtlprnft, :(){ :|:& };:
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.Ratchet
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns.Ratchet.
23:31 <ct|kyle> .ls Ratchet
23:31 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.
23:31 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns..
23:31 <Ratchet--> .
23:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: timed out
23:32 <Ratchet--> .seen Neo_The_Real_1
23:32 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen Neo_The_Real_1.
23:32 <Ratchet--> .
23:32 <Ratchet--> AAODIFWIORH#)%*)%@
23:32 <Ratchet--> .seen YO MAMA B#@$)@
23:32 <tronner> Ratchet--: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
23:32 <smoothice> .seen luke-jr
23:32 <tronner> smoothice: luke-jr was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <luke-jr> Lucifer: I almost have a werewolf game working in arma chat ☺
23:32 <smoothice> .seen Lucifer
23:32 <tronner> smoothice: Lucifer was last seen in #armagetron 59 minutes and 9 seconds ago: <Lucifer> this looks more like a meetup to play than a tournament, is that pretty much what it is?
23:32 <smoothice> luke-jr?
23:32 <Ratchet--> !loli
23:33 <Ratchet--> !loli rape Paralyzed
23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: you there?
23:33 <Ratchet--> shet.
23:33 <Ratchet--> who the hell wants luke jr
23:33 <Ratchet--> he's a *re*tard!
23:33 <smoothice> shut up ratch
23:33 <smoothice> :P
23:33 <Ratchet--> 8-)
23:33 <smoothice> .seen durka
23:33 <tronner> smoothice: durka was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 11 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Durka> cya
23:34 <smoothice> .seen ivantis
23:34 <tronner> smoothice: ivantis was last seen in #armagetron 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <ivantis> good thing i didnt
23:34 <smoothice> .seen G5
23:34 <tronner> smoothice: G5 was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 1 minute, and 37 seconds ago: <G5> yeah, why not ... have to think about it
23:36 <smoothice> #message epsy one more problem... dedicated server works but server version is not defined. hopefully I catch you or durka around again
23:37 <smoothice> #notes
23:37 <armabot> smoothice: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *man*, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlpwnft, xs20, z-man, [dlh], and aa_voodoo.
23:39 <luke-jr> spammers
23:39 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@hn-33-24.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:40 <Paralyzed> .ls paralyzed
23:40 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:40 <Paralyzed> .ls Paralyzed
23:40 <tronner> Paralyzed: timed out
23:44 <Ratchet--> a for me Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> a
23:44 <Ratchet--> for
23:44 <Ratchet--> me
23:44 <Ratchet--> Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> Not
23:44 <Ratchet--> !!
23:48 <Ratchet--> there
23:48 <Ratchet--> #update
23:49 <BabyBug> enter
23:49 <BabyBug> is
23:49 <BabyBug> not
23:49 <BabyBug> a
23:49 <BabyBug> form
23:49 <BabyBug> of
23:49 <BabyBug> punctuation
23:49 <Ratchet--> how
23:49 <Ratchet--> can
23:49 <Ratchet--> you
23:49 <Ratchet--> be
23:49 <Ratchet--> so
23:49 <Ratchet--> sure
23:49 <Ratchet--> about
23:49 <Ratchet--> that
23:49 <Ratchet--> darlin'?
23:49 <luke-jr> Lucifer: kick?
23:49 <BabyBug> Ratchet--, where you from? =P
23:49 <Ratchet--> BabyBug: louisiana babe
23:50 <Lucifer> I'll kick Ratchet-- (hi there!) , but not BabyBug, she cuddles me
23:50 <BabyBug> american...surprise surprise
23:50 <Ratchet--> =[
23:50  * Lucifer cuddles Ratchet-- (hi there!) 
23:50 <Ratchet--> lol
23:50  * Ratchet-- cuddles lucy!
23:52 <Ratchet--> Lucifer: how do i get a forgot pw for resource =-?
23:52 <Lucifer> beats me
23:53 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: reset my pw you overgrown toe-nail
23:54 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: F U
23:54 <luke-jr> I'm gonna make you do it the Right Way (TM) for being a jerk about it
23:55 <Ratchet--> tm?
23:56 <luke-jr> http://google.com/search?q=trademark+wikipedia&btnI=I
23:56 <Ratchet--> wtf is the RIGHT WAY
23:56 <Ratchet--> ..
23:57 <Ratchet--> luke-jr: reset it plox
23:58 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
23:59 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: prove your identity kthx

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