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Log from 2008-12-08:
--- Day changed Mon Dec 08 2008
00:00 <luke-jr> freako: guess what
00:00 <freako> while my monitor has 80...
00:00 <luke-jr> your EYES only SUPPORT 25 fps
00:00 <freako> vsync on 25 is bs , u know that
00:00 <luke-jr> I know you can't see a difference.
00:00 <epsy> freako, set vsync on the gfx driver
00:00 <freako> i did
00:00 <freako> thats the only place where i can add it
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:01 <epsy> no, there's a switch in arma as well
00:01 <freako> my arma doesnt have the latest trunk
00:01 <freako> so i dont have the switch
00:01 <epsy> well you said you were fine with .3
00:01 <epsy> so indeed you dont have to change anything on .3 ...
00:02 <freako> damned....
00:02 <freako> just play 0.3 from z-man
00:02 <freako> and play the version of wrtl
00:02 <freako> world of changes
00:02 <freako> bad changes*
00:02 <epsy> yeah, one is two years old, the other is 6 months old
00:02 <epsy> what did you expect?
00:02 <freako> thats means we can better quit making 0.3 ?
00:02 <epsy> it to be the same?
00:02 <freako> because the upgrades making it worse?
00:03 <epsy> seriousely, I don't see how it is worse
00:03 <freako> brb got to find the topic on the arma forums about it
00:04 <freako> on the old 0.3 beta i could get over 400 fps in a local game and 50-150 in Fortress with 10 people, now its 150-300 in local and 30-60 in 10-man Fort...
00:04 <freako> Quote*
00:05 <freako> rico had the same probs with vsync
00:05 <epsy> crappy driver, nothing I can do about
00:05 <epsy> especially if it's nvidia
00:05 <freako> First, I'm playing with these build for a few days (mainly local game). I use to have some weird behavior with previous build: a kind of delay between the keystroke and the effective turn even in local game (using windows xp on a macbook. Driver is an nvidia one) ...
00:05 <freako> this is a quote from voodoo
00:06 <freako> kind of delay between the keystroke and the effective turn even in local game <----this is what i mean
00:06 <epsy> yeah, there is such a delay
00:06 <freako> that delay isnt in the z-mans version
00:06 <epsy> that delay is everywhere
00:07 <freako> the delay is bigger* on the wrtl version
00:07 <freako> thats why I hate it :/
00:07 <epsy> idk, I play fine on recent builds..
00:07 <epsy> more than on .3
00:08 <epsy> a bit less since the last driver update >.<
00:08 <freako> ati ?
00:08 <epsy> i915 in mesa
00:09 <freako> an intel cart :O
00:10 <epsy> yeah, intel now makes shopping carts
00:10 <freako> another quote :(
00:10 <freako> And yes, it affects all versions,but since i installed 0.3.0 i can play normal on some servers,anyways i think its some uncompatibility problem, not a bug in the clients.If i cant solve it, i'll have to live with it,..and i'll enter the matrix--arma slow-mo mode
00:11 <freako> guess I got to live with the lag,,, on those upgraded servers then... till my version isnt supported anymore
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00:13 <epsy> trunk is not a supported branch
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00:21 <epsy> have a good night
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01:29 <Paralyzed> hey guys
01:30 <luke-jr> no
01:33 <Paralyzed> no what
01:35 <luke-jr> no
01:35 <ivantis> no playing on my lawn, you rotten little kid
01:37 <ivantis> Paralyzed, still there?
01:44 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i donno if someone said this but, configure with CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32  (or replave 32 with max clients :) )
01:46 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: thanks :D
01:47 <Paralyzed> pink ratchet is looking for u
01:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: no problem
01:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i ran into that problem a few ladles back :)
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02:03 <ivantis> oh he left
02:03 <ivantis> luke-jr: look what he sent me while hes gone:
02:04 <ivantis> luke-jr: 2398239L029332U293023K98323E2838273872I98239823S98239823A82738232D298737823I2983829382C92839823923K =~ s/\d+//g
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02:08 <luke-jr> …
02:10 <ivantis> he said it
02:10 <ivantis> and im getting a G1 phone on wednesday!
02:13 <ivantis> &logs
02:13 <perlbot2> http://irclogs.space-lab.us
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04:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8639 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Remove Info.plist from Copy build phase.
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05:06 <Pathetique> @linkladle
05:06 <Pathetique> wa wa we wa
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11:36 <ciccio1> ciao
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14:08 <Monkey_arma> Ady-Lucifer on irc oO
14:37 <Ady-Lucifer> ;O
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16:16 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/projects/zombies-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
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16:44 <_TaZ_> hey
16:47 <armabot> lpbugs: [306245] Text output errors - possibly spec mode related
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18:50 <K-Yo> #last --from=speed
18:50 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 9543 messages.
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20:25 <Monkey_arma> Roll up, roll up, regular matches have begun!
20:25 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
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21:29 <sinewav> Help
21:30 <sinewav> It's about the wiki
21:30 <sinewav> `I want to edit it, and I need the value for "mystery field".
21:30 <K-Yo> red
21:30 <K-Yo> sinewav,
21:31 <sinewav> Oh I got it right then. I see I screwed something else up...hold
21:33 <sinewav> OK, back...K-yo?
21:33 <K-Yo> sinewav, ?
21:33 <sinewav> Yes?
21:33 <K-Yo> red
21:33 <K-Yo> is the value of the mistery field
21:33 <K-Yo> I think
21:33 <epsy> sinewav, do what it tells you to do, it's not that hard!
21:34 <Ady-Lucifer> sinewav, dont listen to tihm, hes daltonic
21:34 <sinewav> Oh thanks, I got it. I actually screwed something else up, wasn't the color. my bad
21:34 <K-Yo> hehe
21:34 <sinewav> thanks for help!
21:35 <K-Yo> no prob ;)
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21:41 <freako5> :)
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21:53 <K-Yo> freako5 is a noob
21:54 <K-Yo> freako5, saw ing me able to add aliases and send msgs etc ?
21:54 <K-Yo> oops
21:54 <K-Yo> that: <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Organised_Matches
21:54 <freako5> :) ?
21:54 <freako5> cant follow this :O
21:54 <K-Yo> ah yeah u saw
21:54 <K-Yo> nvm :P
21:54 <K-Yo> are u reading IRC on a mobile phone?
21:54 <freako5> nope
21:55 <freako5> my windows irc client is fucked, so im on mibbit
21:56 <epsy> (it's not an irc client, it's a windows irc client!)
21:56 <luke-jr> windozeluser
21:57 <freako5> (epsy i hate irc.. its the worst invention beside windows vista)
21:57  * K-Yo is proud to use windows vista
21:57 <K-Yo> LOL!
21:57 <sinewav> lol
21:58 <epsy> first, vista isn't an invention
21:58 <epsy> secondly, irc doesn't suck more than vista
21:59 <epsy> now perhaps your irc client sucks more than windows vista..
21:59 <freako5> proudly running windows 7  milestone 3
22:00 <epsy> proudly running software that is going to crush on me
22:00 <epsy> uhm, what?
22:02 <freako5> I can finally combine,, an NVIDIA gfx cart with an ATI on windoes!
22:02 <epsy> wait-windows can now run two screens? wow that's new
22:03 <epsy> even windows ME could do that
22:03 <freako5> epsy u dont understand what I mean...
22:03 <epsy> oh wait you're still talkig about shopping carts
22:04 <freako5> epsy. try to get an windows pc,, running with an ATI+nvida card
22:04 <epsy> yeah, windows is the first OS ever made to have a concept for handling carts
22:04 <freako5> better get ur own copy of windows 7, milestoone 3 ...
22:04 <epsy> I admit
22:04 <epsy> why would I want that?
22:05 <freako5> U can see how much better windows upgraded,,,
22:06 <epsy> ah, so they are upgrading better than last time, what's better in the upgrade?
22:06 <epsy> do you have two video cards running at the same time?
22:06 <epsy> heck, I barely have an integrated chipset
22:06 <freako5> hehe
22:07 <freako5> thats why i got 8000 fps on the alpha  in local game ;)
22:07 <freako5> low quality though
22:07 <epsy> 8000fps low quality does not need two video cards to be achieved..
22:08 <epsy> also it's fucking useless, because it will take more time to spew out unneccesary frames than to render them
22:08 <freako5> but its much cheaper to achieve it with to mid range* carts
22:08 <freako5> 2* instead of 2 high end
22:08 <freako5> c 1high end*
22:09 <epsy> on low quality, even software rendering may be able to attain this, but it's cropped to vsync rates, which is quite logical anyway
22:09 <freako5> Arma isnt the only game wich I play...
22:09 <epsy> so uhm, why do I need windows seven?
22:09 <freako5> so I need the fps to play at ultra high :)
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22:10 <freako5> black editions proccessors ftw also :)
22:10 <epsy> wtf are black edition processors?
22:11 <epsy> CPUs painted in black?
22:11 <freako5> Proccessors delivered without the overclock lock
22:11 <sinewav> a cool marketing term?
22:11 <epsy> oh so they can burn easier
22:11 <epsy> right, that wins
22:11 <freako5> not if u do it right.. and have money :)
22:11 <epsy> I really doubt I need to overclock a 3.0GHz processor
22:12 <SageLord> lol
22:12 <sinewav> haha
22:12  * freako5 is scared to tell epsy he has 8 gb ram\
22:12  * freako5 he will tell me its uneeded
22:13 <SageLord> you have 8 gb of ram?
22:13 <freako5> yup
22:13 <SageLord> what on earth do you use all that for
22:13 <SageLord> haha
22:13 <SageLord> what kind of games do you play
22:13 <epsy> holy shit what do you need 8Gb RAM for?
22:13  * sinewav bought his last motherboard and processor in 2001 :(
22:14 <freako5> uhm epsy..
22:14 <freako5> i dont say no to my parents giving me money to build an pc :)
22:14 <freako5> so id rather spend it,,,
22:14 <epsy> seriousely, I have so what 2Gb RAM and I often run firefox with a fucking bullshit lot of tabs, the GIMP, inkscape and on top of that arma..
22:14 <sinewav> I would have spent half the money on a PC, and the rest on getting laid
22:15 <epsy> what do I need 4× more RAM for?
22:15 <epsy> OH yeaaaah!
22:15 <epsy> for fucking windows SEVEN!
22:15 <freako5> i have triple boot...
22:15 <epsy> w00tzorz
22:15 <freako5> xp-vista-7
22:15 <epsy> I have boot to arch..and that's it
22:16 <freako5> ask ikono where u need 8 gb ram for
22:16 <freako5> he can explain it in detail :)
22:16 <epsy> do i need 4× more ram to do dual/triple-boot or whatever ? no
22:16 <epsy> and I used to do it
22:16 <freako5> Epsy... i dont need 8gb ram
22:17 <luke-jr> wtf epsy
22:17 <epsy> and if you dare to say dual booting requires more ram seriousely, you got no fucking idea of what you are talking about..
22:17 <freako5> but im not a person that says NO* to it if i can get it for free
22:17 <freako5> im not saying that
22:17 <luke-jr> unless his BIOS supports parallel OS
22:17 <sinewav> most STDs are free
22:17 <epsy> you're the person what's telling me I SHOULD get that
22:17 <freako5> that was a reply for ur dumb windows 7 ...
22:18 <freako5> I said , u hould try it once... to see that its better as the old windows
22:18 <epsy> well, considering windows 6, and 5.1 already eats a LOT of RAM..
22:18 <freako5> epsy ffs,  when u can get 8gb ram for free... u say no?
22:19 <SageLord> :)
22:19 <epsy> no
22:19 <epsy> are you offereing me 8Gb RAM for free?
22:19 <freako5> no... but my parents did it to me
22:19 <luke-jr> …
22:19 <luke-jr> spoiled brat
22:19 <K-Yo> freako5, I hope the rest of ur comp can follow them!
22:19 <K-Yo> :P
22:20 <epsy> so why are you telling me I should get this? duh..
22:20 <epsy> K-Yo, in fire?
22:20 <freako5> uhm... I just said
22:20 <K-Yo> in fire?
22:20 <K-Yo> what for?
22:20 <freako5> That u maybe, could try it once... so u maybe change your view on windows
22:21 <freako5> because 7 is a rly good upgraded system of vista
22:21 <epsy> K-Yo, rotting with the overclocked 4.0GHz processor
22:21 <PinkTomato> freako5: you run windows in 64-bit of course?
22:21 <freako5> yes,
22:22 <freako5> 32 bit doesnt accept more as 2gb i thought
22:22 <freako5> ram*
22:22 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah :P
22:22 <freako5> or 4 :/
22:22 <epsy> false assumption
22:22 <PinkTomato> Won't acept 3.5Gb +
22:22 <epsy> it entirely depends on motherboard/CPU
22:22 <freako5> no
22:22 <freako5> OS 2
22:23 <epsy> wtf is OS/2 doing in here now?
22:23 <sinewav> haha
22:23 <PinkTomato> lol
22:23 <epsy> OS too..
22:23 <epsy> jesus
22:23 <luke-jr> 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland is probably best idea
22:23 <freako5> 32 bit XP doesnt accept ram to a certrain level
22:23 <epsy> that's because windows sucks
22:23 <freako5> 64 bit xp does
22:24 <epsy> and also because XP was made in 2002
22:24 <luke-jr> no
22:24 <epsy> and 8Gb RAM was not the kind of stuff that would sell in 2002
22:24 <luke-jr> it's because 64-bit pointers are 2x the size of 32-bit
22:24 <freako5> but we still get at the point... that I dont reject to offer of a good pc :)
22:25 <freako5> the*
22:25 <luke-jr> freako5: I demand a free 8 GB RAM PC too
22:25 <epsy> you don't? ah neat!
22:25 <epsy> me too
22:25 <SageLord> i want one too
22:25 <SageLord> :D
22:25 <freako5> hehe :)
22:25 <luke-jr> it's only fair, after all
22:25 <SageLord> or at least split your 8 GB with us
22:25  * luke-jr looks up freako5's address to send a bill for a new PC.
22:25 <SageLord> i'll take 1 and a half
22:25 <freako5> life isnt fair...
22:25 <freako5> :)
22:25 <epsy> luke-jr, hahahaha
22:26 <SageLord> my measly laptop only has 1 GB :/
22:26 <luke-jr> freako5: let's grab a gun and make it fair?
22:26 <epsy> luke-jr, get a lawyer to phone him
22:26 <PinkTomato> My laptop has 512 I think
22:26 <luke-jr> lol epsy
22:26 <luke-jr> my laptop has 2 GB
22:26 <luke-jr> :o
22:26 <luke-jr> sorry, typo
22:26 <luke-jr> 20 GB*
22:26 <epsy> 2Gb, or 8× more, can't remember
22:26 <freako5> hehe
22:26 <PinkTomato> lol :D
22:26 <luke-jr> oops
22:26 <luke-jr> another typo!
22:26 <luke-jr> 20 TB*
22:27 <luke-jr> and it folds up to fit in my pocket!
22:27 <epsy> luke-jr, omg only windows seven can handle that much RAM!
22:27 <epsy> oh wait
22:27 <sinewav> lol
22:27 <epsy> it's fucking windows mobiiiiile!
22:27 <luke-jr> no wai
22:27 <luke-jr> Gentoo
22:27 <epsy> yesterday, I saw MS advertising windows mobile
22:28 <luke-jr> got a Core2Octal at 1 THz :D
22:28 <epsy> did they ever advertise windows ?
22:28 <epsy> nobody would trust windows mobile lol..
22:28 <luke-jr> epsy: ever hear of Core2 Trio?
22:28 <epsy> and poor HTC is litterally failing
22:28 <PinkTomato> Would a mobile ever need more than 3GB ram?
22:28 <epsy> Trio? wtf?
22:28 <epsy> like 2^3 or reall 3?
22:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: nobody ever needs more than 64 KB!
22:28 <luke-jr> epsy: 3 cores
22:29 <luke-jr> epsy: Quad w/ 1 core disabled
22:29 <epsy> holy shit it's not symmetrical
22:29 <luke-jr> lol
22:29 <SageLord> lol
22:29 <epsy> we need to make round CPUs
22:29 <luke-jr> defective Quad, laser cutting off a core
22:29 <freako5> im scared to tell u wich proccesor i have lol
22:30 <luke-jr> freako5: if you don't say, your parents need to buy me the top of the line
22:30 <luke-jr> bleeding edge
22:30 <PinkTomato> lol luke-jr :D. true..
22:30 <luke-jr> BETA CPU
22:30 <luke-jr> with a microcode bugfix subscription <.<
22:30 <epsy> you're pretty much scared to tell us anything
22:31 -!- Ratchet-- [n=joshua@99-195-9-134.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #armagetron
22:31 <luke-jr> wtf is .nl?
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <Ratchet--> luke
22:31 <PinkTomato> neatherlands?
22:31 <luke-jr> epsy: ok, here's the plan
22:31 <luke-jr> I ain't here.
22:31 <Ratchet--> where on ubuntu do i access my configurations
22:31 <freako5> yup
22:31  * luke-jr drops.
22:32 <Ratchet--> PinkTomato:
22:32 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: What configuration?
22:32 <Ratchet--> arma cfgs
22:32 <Ratchet--> like user.cfg
22:32 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: I DONT USE FSCKING UBUNTU
22:32 <luke-jr> RETARD
22:32 <Ratchet--> yes u do
22:32 <Ratchet--> dick licker
22:32 <Ratchet--> stfu
22:32 <luke-jr> liar
22:32 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: what's your phone number?
22:32 <freako5> i like ratchete hehe
22:32 <epsy> LOL!
22:32 <freako5> nicenice :)
22:32 <Ratchet--> 666-911-getalife
22:32 <luke-jr> wrong area code
22:32 <luke-jr> u lie
22:32 <Ratchet--> na
22:33 <Ratchet--> i live in hell
22:33 <Ratchet--> with your mom
22:33 <luke-jr> I bet it's 1-800-ped-ophile
22:33 <freako5> near luzifer?
22:33 <Ratchet--> yeah we share a room
22:33 <epsy> holy shit I may be choosing a phone op that lets me choose l33t phone numbers LOL
22:33 <luke-jr> GrandCentral?
22:33 <Ratchet--> epsy do you know how to find user.cfg on ubuntu? -.-
22:33 <epsy> guess not
22:33 <freako5> epsy why did u ask me i was connected to -»?
22:34 <epsy> Ratchet--, ~/.armagetronad/var/
22:34 <epsy> freako5, the website?
22:34 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: locate user.cfg
22:34 <Ratchet--> i tried that luke-jr
22:34 <freako5> why did u ask it? ur hunting me again?
22:34 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: find ~ -name user.cfg
22:34 <epsy> Ratchet--, note that ~ means your home dir and that files starting with . are hidden
22:34 <Ratchet--> k
22:35 <luke-jr> epsy: directories too!
22:35 <epsy> Ratchet--, in nautilus you can show them using ctrl+h, but you'd better press ctrl+l and type the address in
22:35 <epsy> luke-jr, filesystem entitites
22:35 <ivantis> hey!
22:35 <freako5> epsy knows my ip from his head hehe
22:35 <luke-jr> entitites?
22:35 <ivantis> ctrl+l in xchat does something cool
22:35 <epsy> 84.31 or something like this
22:35  * luke-jr prubs.
22:36 <epsy> or 84.131.
22:36 <luke-jr> epsy: that's part of it
22:36 <luke-jr> 86400 IN    PTR     cp601025-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl.
22:36 <epsy> one is freako, the other is Izual
22:36 <epsy> luke-jr, holy shit it's reverse
22:36 <epsy> :)
22:36 <luke-jr> yeah, DNS and IP go in different directions
22:36 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
22:37 <epsy> yeah
22:37 <luke-jr> wtf is emmy_arma?
22:37 <epsy> quite ingenious
22:37  * freako5 secretly installs ancorfree software
22:37 <ivantis> wtf is luke-jr?
22:37 <luke-jr> ivantis die
22:37 <emmy_arma> oO
22:37 <SageLord> Oo
22:37 <emmy_arma> i'm a CT-er
22:37 <ivantis> 00
22:37 <freako5> sagelord wakes up again :)
22:37 <Ratchet--> epsy: no .armagetron in home :'[
22:37 <SageLord> :p
22:37 <SageLord> currently doing some apartment cleaning
22:37 <ivantis> .armagetronad isnt it
22:37 <epsy> erm yeah, it's armagetronad now
22:37 <SageLord> or rather, trying to avoid it while my roommates do it
22:38 <Ratchet--> i tried that
22:38 <Ratchet--> arma...ad
22:38 <ivantis> .armagetronad and .armagetronad-dedicated
22:38 <epsy> did you ever start armagetron?
22:38 <Ratchet--> argh
22:38 <Ratchet--> no
22:38 <Ratchet--> ROFL!
22:38 <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:38 <Ratchet--> thx
22:38 <Ratchet--> :p
22:38 <SageLord> lol
22:38 <luke-jr> ………
22:38 <epsy> well it's not created before armagetronad is run
22:38 <ivantis> its not like the installer would put the folder there
22:38 <ivantis> noob
22:38 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: well, at least you admit it
22:38 <Ratchet--> rofl
22:38 <Ratchet--> stfu
22:39 <luke-jr> #quote add [15:38:34] <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:39 <epsy> ivantis, first, there is no installer, secondly, don't say noob all the time
22:39 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:39 <ivantis> yeah, admit it unlike some people
22:39 <luke-jr> ]quote add [15:38:34] <Ratchet--> omg im dumb
22:39 <ivantis> luke-jr in mind
22:39 <epsy> #echo I don't want your quote
22:39 <armabot> I don't want your quote
22:39 <luke-jr> ivantis: you really shouldn't talk about yourself that way
22:39 <SageLord> #kwote
22:39 <epsy> @q
22:39 <Ratchet--> #echo luke-jr can embrasse mon cul
22:39 <epsy> @quote random
22:39 <armabot> luke-jr can embrasse mon cul
22:39 <SageLord> that key on my keyboard doesn't work :p
22:39 <ivantis> #failure
22:39 <Ratchet--> !warning
22:40 <SageLord> its pretty lame
22:40 <epsy> teabot fucking rocks by the way
22:40 <epsy> SageLord, holy shit the other day I had something like this
22:40 <luke-jr> hum
22:40 <perlbot2> Okay just shut up! You are all bot-failures trying to use bots.
22:40 <luke-jr> ljrbot is maxed out on channels
22:40 <epsy> there was like an Xorg upgrade, with [big] changes regarding keyboard and mouse input
22:41 <epsy> half my keys stopped working right after the upgrade
22:41 <luke-jr> blame SageLord
22:41 <luke-jr> he made the patch
22:41 <freako5> lol the irc has never been so crwoded
22:41 <luke-jr> liar
22:41 <luke-jr> it was pretty crowded the other day
22:41 <luke-jr> when I was kicking people randomly from the ladle
22:41 <Ratchet--> er
22:42 <Ratchet--> now im having a graphics problem
22:42 <Ratchet--> -.-
22:42 <luke-jr> nVidia I bet
22:42 <Ratchet--> when i move the arma client
22:42 <Ratchet--> it's windowed
22:42 <Ratchet--> and the gfx slide off
22:42 <epsy> holy shit
22:42 <epsy> it's windowedz000rz!
22:42 <ivantis> &calc 360-52
22:42 <perlbot2> 308
22:42 <freako5> ah luke-jr :)
22:42 <Ratchet--> is it normal for the graphics to slide off
22:42 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: disable 3D acceleration
22:42 <Ratchet--> -.-
22:42 <freako5> do u know what it caused?
22:42 <epsy> Ratchet--, like, what?
22:42 <Ratchet--> i move the window
22:43 <Ratchet--> and the graphics stay put
22:43 <freako5> because people dont wat to rent random kicking servers :p
22:43 <Ratchet--> and just slide out the window
22:43 <luke-jr> freako5: it's ok, I was joking.
22:43 <epsy> Ratchet--, disable compiz/3d effects
22:43 <epsy> or whatever it's called
22:43  * Ratchet-- wishes i knew what was that
22:43 <ivantis> &calc 360-128
22:43 <perlbot2> 232
22:43 <epsy> Ratchet--, look in settings
22:43 <luke-jr> freako5: yeah, next time Durka asks to borrow it, imma tell him to make sure his config is sane and doesn't make my server look bad
22:43 <epsy> ivantis: go away with your bots
22:43 <ivantis> im doing homework
22:44 <epsy> do your additions elsewhere
22:44 <ivantis> - means subtraction
22:44 <ivantis> noob
22:44 <epsy> same thing as an addition, really
22:45 <ivantis> yes
22:45 <luke-jr> …
22:45 <ivantis> like adding a negative number
22:45 <freako5> luke :) i hope there is no next time :O
22:45 <ivantis> &calc 360+-128
22:45 <perlbot2> 232
22:45 <epsy> yes, that's it
22:45 <freako5> i like pnk-s more :0\
22:45 <ivantis> that is why multiplication/division arent natural operators
22:46 <ivantis> &calc 90+52
22:46 <perlbot2> 142
22:46 <epsy> well, you have two basic things, addition and multiplication
22:46 <Ratchet--> epsy: I don't see anything to do with graphics or compiz in system-pref
22:46 <Ratchet--> =;[
22:46 <epsy> all the rest is plainly based on this
22:46 <luke-jr> freako5: fail
22:46 <ivantis> &calc 360-90
22:46 <perlbot2> 270
22:46 <luke-jr> freako5: this is what I have learned: Durka borrows a server, and sets up a bad config
22:47 <Ratchet--> &calc 932848923-3849384398
22:47 <perlbot2> -2916535475
22:47 <luke-jr> = makes me look bad
22:47 <Ratchet--> :O
22:47 <epsy> @ping
22:47 <Ratchet--> &ping
22:47 <perlbot2> pong
22:47 <Ratchet--> rofl
22:47 <Ratchet--> &ping
22:47 <perlbot2> pong
22:47 <freako5> what was the bad config? wasnt some guy willing to pay u for it?
22:47 <epsy> yeah, it will always answer with pong
22:47 -!- teabot [i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer]
22:47 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: System -> Preferences -> Apperance
22:48 <epsy> except if it's a crappy supybot which needs to be killed all the time
22:48 <PinkTomato> Visual effects
22:48 <Ratchet--> None Normal Extra
22:48 <Ratchet--> which 1
22:48 -!- teabot [i=xclan@fiji.dreamhost.com] has joined #aRmAgEtROn
22:48 <epsy> none
22:49  * epsy sed "disable it"
22:49 <epsy> you may need to log out of your session of it to take effect
22:49 <Ratchet--> it worked
22:49 <freako5> luke-jr : what was the bad config? wasnt some guy willing to pay u for it?
22:49 <Ratchet--> but is my in game gfx guna be shitty?
22:49 <PinkTomato> http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Switch << This comes in handy if you think compiz is a productive solution,.
22:50 <epsy> Ratchet--, 3D effects are just stupid effects for windows
22:50 <luke-jr> freako5: wtf?
22:50 <epsy> it's not the 3D drivers
22:50 <PinkTomato> Hehe, I had a feeling epsy would not like compiz ;)
22:50 <luke-jr> freako5: dunno, I didn't debug the conifg
22:50 <luke-jr> but it happened on someone else's server with the same config
22:50 <luke-jr> and my server works fine for everyone else
22:50 <PinkTomato> Ratchet--: This is purely what the visual efects on the windowing engine are
22:50 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, in almost all cases like this it's just compiz making crap
22:51 <freako5> dont tell me its shit uodate from last week?
22:51 <ivantis> &calc 29+29
22:51 <perlbot2> 58
22:51 <PinkTomato> that's true, compiz makes stuff go funny
22:51 <freako5> last weeks update is a killer for the old 0.3
22:51 <epsy> almost all games are messed up with it
22:51 <epsy> - even glxgears -
22:51 <freako5> lol
22:51 <luke-jr> ok
22:53 <freako5> mmmm,,, im off
22:54 <freako5> upgrading my pc hehe
22:54 <freako5> for free ... peehee!
22:54 <epsy> Quit: windows 7 ftww!!!!
22:54 <freako5> how u like 20 gb ram more? :P
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22:55 <PinkTomato> freako5: so whats yr processor?
22:55 <PinkTomato> I'm curious...
22:55 <epsy> it's a processor painted in black
22:55 <epsy> that's all we know
22:56 <freako5> a black edition epsy...
22:56 <PinkTomato> It's painted?
22:56 <luke-jr> http://i35.tinypic.com/2b6rsy.jpg
22:56 <epsy> PinkTomato, well wtf is a black edition if it's not in black?
22:56 <PinkTomato> wow, that little bit of paint mustjust be a commercial reason to charge an extra £50
22:57 <freako5> it has no overclock locl
22:57 <PinkTomato> Even though it's hidden behind a fan...
22:57 <PinkTomato> Oh!
22:57 <freako5> lock* and it slightly better as the original
22:57 <PinkTomato> I understand now
22:57 <epsy> who fucking needs to overclock their processors today LOL
22:57 <luke-jr> lol
22:57 <freako5> me ... so i can keep up with the ram
22:57 <freako5> ;)
22:57 <epsy> it's not overclocking the processor which will help you at RAM
22:58 <freako5> im just happy when my pc... is as fast as possible :)
22:58 <PinkTomato> Phenom?
22:58 <epsy> dude, overclocking has only disadvantages nowdays
22:59 <epsy> have fun with timer hiccups
22:59 <freako5> quad core phenom
22:59 <epsy> hickups*
22:59 <freako5> g2g ,, cya
22:59 -!- freako5 [i=541fbdee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-652070561d3858d1] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
22:59 <epsy> he got no idea of what he's doing..
23:00 <epsy> he's overclocking a fucking quadcore..
23:00 <epsy> like, WTF?
23:00 <PinkTomato> well... it is a black edition...
23:00 <PinkTomato> xD
23:00 <epsy> rofl..
23:01 <epsy> SageLord, good article btw
23:02 <epsy> SageLord: also, don't you want to show up as "SageLord" instead of "sagelord"? Oo
23:04 <K-Yo> SageLord, I enjoyed it too!
23:06 <teabot> SageLord: just writing so that there's a 4th message in row starting with your nick
23:06 <K-Yo> SageLord, and me the 5th!!
23:06 <K-Yo> wootage
23:06 <epsy> holy shit you broke it!
23:06 <K-Yo> damn it
23:07 <K-Yo> didn't pay attention
23:07  * K-Yo slaps K-Yo 
23:08 <SageLord> haha what?
23:08 <SageLord> the new article or the old one?
23:08 <epsy> latest
23:08 <SageLord> haha all right, cool :)
23:08 <SageLord> i've always wanted to put my thoughts on tron on paper, so this is really fun for me :P
23:10 <K-Yo> SageLord, I meant the ladle one, is there a new one?
23:10 <epsy> K-Yo, also, seriousely, wtf is the formatting you use on that organised matches rules? :S
23:10 <K-Yo> epsy, liza did not know about playfortress!
23:10 <K-Yo> epsy, feel free to change
23:10 <epsy> that one as well
23:10 <SageLord> yea i think a lot of people don't know about that
23:10 <epsy> she went off to sleep
23:10 <SageLord> i didn't know about it until a few days ago
23:11 <epsy> Hay used to use it a lot
23:11 <SageLord> yea i know
23:11 <K-Yo> epsy, I didn't know what to put
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, doing so
23:11 <SageLord> she was very good at doing it
23:12 <epsy> K-Yo, 1/ don't put everything in one format, if you're putting a whole paragraph italic, there's something wrong
23:12 <SageLord> it was so frustrating attacking her when she did that, lol :P
23:12 <epsy> it along many other aspects of the "active defense"
23:12 <SageLord> mmhmm :)
23:13 <epsy> K-Yo, 2/ you are putting something that's in parenthesis in bold, do you want to de-emphasise it or to emphasise it?
23:13 <K-Yo> both!
23:13 <epsy> K-Yo, 3/ if you have to make a list of stuff..make a list!
23:14 <K-Yo> ok
23:14 <K-Yo> let's change
23:14 <PinkTomato> Quick question(hopefully) Can anyone spot anything obv. wrong here? "./configure --prefix=/etc/arma --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32"
23:14 <epsy> K-Yo, done; feel free to re-sign your rules with --~~~~
23:15 <K-Yo> ah, ok
23:16 <ivantis> PinkTomato: i think its --enable-auth for the last part
23:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, branch?
23:17 <PinkTomato> bzr 0.2.8 r891? somewhere around there.
23:17 <PinkTomato> it compiles, but segmentation fault on load
23:17 <ivantis> probably not the configure
23:18 <epsy> PinkTomato, can you gdb attach it?
23:18 <PinkTomato> It's the same configure I used last time, I only added CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32.
23:19 <PinkTomato> not sure what that is, quick google suggests that I'll need to be quick
23:19 <PinkTomato> I'm going to recompile without DMAXClients
23:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, gdb ./armagetronad
23:19 <epsy> type run
23:19 <epsy> then bt
23:19 <ivantis> gdb /path/to/binary and then enter its PID
23:20 <epsy> ivantis, well it already existed
23:20 <epsy> exited*
23:20 <ivantis> just start it and it dies?
23:20 <epsy> yes
23:20 <ivantis> laime
23:20 <epsy> I have my suspicions
23:20 <ivantis> does seg fault include a line?
23:21 <epsy> let him breathe
23:21 <epsy> because I want my backtrace
23:21 <PinkTomato> ok, just deb searching for gdb, random 404 on the ubuntu repositroy...
23:22 <epsy> huh?
23:22 <ivantis> gdb should come installed
23:22 <ivantis> ubuntu?
23:22 <PinkTomato> apt-get install gdb results in 404
23:22 <epsy> ask in #ubuntu
23:22 <ivantis> doesnt gdb come installed?
23:22 <ivantis> it did on mine
23:22 <epsy> probably not
23:23 <PinkTomato> This server default image didn't even have wget :)
23:23 <PinkTomato> no wait.
23:23 <PinkTomato> It was something basic like that :)
23:23 <epsy> forgot to fetch package lists?
23:24 <PinkTomato> epsy: your right :), working now :D
23:24 <epsy> it's my right!
23:25 <PinkTomato> ok, now to run gdb..
23:25 <K-Yo> for Organized matches, we could say who we want to play with
23:26 <epsy> that's just going to complicate it
23:26 <epsy> leave it simple for now
23:26 <epsy> PinkTomato, having trouble?
23:28 <PinkTomato> epsy: need to run gdb with --configdir.
23:28 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah, it's for the future
23:29 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:29 <epsy> PinkTomato, gdb --args armagetron --yourargument blah blah
23:29 <epsy> K-Yo, remember that the future is big
23:32 <PinkTomato> http://rafb.net/p/j16WGY78.html
23:34 <PinkTomato> thats for epsy ^ btw :)
23:35 <epsy> strange..
23:36 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:36 <epsy> how come is it trying to disconnect a client, when it is in client mode itself..
23:36 <PinkTomato> you can get that from that?
23:36 <PinkTomato> xD
23:36 <epsy> #7  0x0815f4f7 in nServerInfo::TellMasterAboutMe ()
23:37 <epsy> when connecting to anything, arma enters into client mode
23:37 <epsy> so when connecting to masters, arma is in client mode
23:37 <epsy> #4  0x08152fbe in sn_DisconnectUserNoWarn ()
23:37 <epsy> now, how the hell is it trying to disconnect an user?
23:37 <epsy> ah
23:38 <epsy> it's switching netstate
23:38 <epsy> but well, you just started it, so there's no clients in, so why is it trying to kick them?
23:39 <PinkTomato> not sure :)
23:40 <epsy> anyway, I guess you should upgrade
23:41 <PinkTomato> It only errors with CXXFLAGS, a none CXXFLAGS ver works fine.
23:42 <epsy> ah, yeah, so it's related you your maxclient thing
23:42 <epsy> why are you even setting it?
23:42 <PinkTomato> yeah, It won't go higher than 16
23:43 <epsy> make distclean
23:43 <epsy> bzr up
23:44 <K-Yo> epsy, and long!
23:44 <epsy> and ./configure --enable-dedicated --enable-authentication (nothing more)
23:44 <epsy> then see if you reproduce it
23:44 <epsy> K-Yo, ?
23:44 <epsy> ah, indeed
23:44 <epsy> K-Yo, but it's bigger than what we have between now and that match
23:46 <PinkTomato> argh bzr fail. up to date revision 899...
23:47 <epsy> bzr pull
23:48 <K-Yo> epsy, maybe, maybe not, who knows...
23:49 <epsy> well, we have to work on that basis
23:49 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8640 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/MacOS/rakefile.rb: Added a newline (testing...)
23:50 <K-Yo> true
23:50 <epsy> if we don't, we make shit
23:50 <epsy> basically
23:51 <epsy> PinkTomato, well, see if it does the same on latest .2.8, if it does, file a bug report
23:51 <epsy> good night
23:52 <PinkTomato> ok epsy, night :)
23:52 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit [".. and remember, Have'em caps !"]
23:58 <madmax> dlh: on 0.2.8 the file that generates the version number for the build (process_files.rb) only checks for a .svn dir, which doesn't happen on a bzr checkout. perhaps you want to fix it

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