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Log from 2008-11-16:
--- Day changed Sun Nov 16 2008
00:00 <BabyBug> \o/
00:20 <madmax> #sd deathmatch
00:20 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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00:42 <madmax> #sd deathmatch
00:43 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
00:43 <BabyBug> see madmax...two timer
00:46 <madmax> sorry I have short term memory loss
00:46 <madmax> sorry I have short term memory loss
00:46 <madmax> sorry I have short term memory loss
00:48 <epsy> soon he's going to have tuimer hiccups too
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01:21 <ivantis> yay!
01:22 <ivantis> SSBB is so fun
01:22 <ivantis> i just got it yesterday
01:22 <ivantis> (Super Smash Brothers BRAWL for you noobs)
01:23 <epsy> O_O http://www.xepic.net/pics/chrome3.jpg
01:24 <madmax> that's the car of a Dubai businessman
01:24 <DStar_> funky
01:24 <ivantis> that's the car of Metal Mario!
01:31 <madmax> if by funky you mean lame...
01:31 <DStar_> actually i mean ugly
01:31 <DStar_> xD
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01:34 <epsy> rofl http://www.xepic.net/pics/usaf.jpg :d
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04:08 <baddog> uh
04:08 <baddog> is it just me, or are the Armagetron servers down?
04:08 <BabyBug> just you
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04:32 <baddog> oh
04:32 <baddog> heh
04:32 * baddog tries again
04:32 <baddog> still not working :<
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11:21 <P4> is it normal that messages like 'armagetronad-de[17617] general protection rip:2b9f2707daf5 rsp:7fff84e3d0b0 error:0' or 'armagetronad-de[17617] trap stack segment rip:2b1b6afe7dec rsp:7fff40ed52b0 error:0' are found in dmesg? also a lot of 'armagetronad-de[17617]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000000000000000 rsp 00007fffa4ea3408 error 14'
11:32 <P4> http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2005/Feb/0171.html didn't you reply? :þ
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--- Log opened Sun Nov 16 14:37:12 2008
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18:27 <ivantis> goodness
18:27 <ivantis> quits, joins
18:30 <ivantis> P4: i got a bunch of errors like that when i did something weird to one of my modifications... it had something to do with invalid player IDs and non-destroyed objects at round end
18:51 <ivantis> perlbot2, tell me that you are sorry for bugging up my armagetron server!
18:51 <perlbot2> me: that you are sorry for bugging up my armagetron server!, :P.
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19:35 <BabyBug> Who are the people who actually have the right to commit to the branch on lp?
19:35 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: what branch
19:35 <BabyBug> the trunk
19:37 <ct|kyle> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev
19:37 <BabyBug> ahhh
19:38 <ct|kyle> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct
19:38 <ct|kyle> :P
19:41 <epsy> BabyBug, but people can make up their own branches and put them up associated with the armagetronad project
19:42 <ct|kyle> i still have to comment to ct+sty,
19:42 <epsy> feature branches are of course welcome, but the use of this to do "linked forks" is questionnable, IMO
19:43 <BabyBug> heh, i was just curious as to how many devs there were
19:44 <epsy> there's also the AUTHORS file
19:44 <BabyBug> Oh yeh, never thought of that
19:45 <epsy> ksss
19:46 <BabyBug> Why is dev so slow btw?
19:47 <epsy> depends on what part you're talking abou
19:47 <epsy> t
19:49 <BabyBug> Well it just doesn't seem to move forward in a noticeable way at all
19:49 <ct|kyle> they are all hard at work on ramps :P
19:49 <epsy> ct|kyle, that wouldn't stop 0.2.8
19:50 <ct|kyle> true
19:50 <ct|kyle> you've been doing more server side stuff on 0.2.8 lately
19:50 <epsy> well, we're busy, and there's nobody to fix bug #289112
19:50 <teabot> Launchpad bug 289112 in armagetronad "Local logins freeze the server." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289112
19:51 <ct|kyle> whats the bug i submitted
19:51 <epsy> that bug being blocking, and probably the only blocking bug remaining for milestone 0.2.8.3
19:51 <ct|kyle> it was an error with the settings
19:51 <BabyBug> i'll fix it!
19:52 <epsy> gl
19:54 <ct|kyle> don't let local id's include the @ :)
19:54 * epsy delays release date to christmas, and terribly hopes it may be in time
19:54 <ct|kyle> if there is nothing past after the @ disregard it
19:55 <epsy> ct|kyle, why would it work with zthread ?
19:55 <epsy> if it was this
19:55 <ct|kyle> what do you mean
19:56 <ct|kyle> let me go see something
19:56 <epsy> did you read the bug description?
19:56 <ct|kyle> i thought so
19:56 <epsy> To reproduce:
19:56 <epsy> 1/ Compile arma with pthreads and authentication support
19:56 <epsy> ie. it works fine with zthread
19:57 <ct|kyle> missed the pthreads part
19:58 <epsy> tbh that's the only blocking bug i have in mind
19:59 <epsy> for the rest, there is z-man-work(hi there!)
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20:49 <epsy> guru3, xclan.armagetron.co.uk not xclan.net.tf X_x
20:55 <P4> why are the masterservers timing out? it increases a lot starting the server with TALK_TO_MASTER 1
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20:59 <epsy> --- electricpotential.net ping statistics ---
20:59 <epsy> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
20:59 <epsy> --- armagetron.kicks-ass.net ping statistics ---
20:59 <epsy> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
20:59 <epsy> --- luciferarma.kicks-ass.net ping statistics ---
20:59 <epsy> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
20:59 <epsy> PING wrtlprnft.ath.cx (85.233.38.70) 56(84) bytes of data.
20:59 <epsy> 64 bytes from 85.233.38.70.dynamic.cablesurf.de (85.233.38.70): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=64.3 ms
20:59 <epsy> that's four masters
20:59 <epsy> and two that doesn't repond to ping
20:59 <epsy> see for yourself
21:00 <epsy> for i in 1 2 3 4 5; do ping master${i}.armagetronad.net -c1; done
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21:07 <luke-jr> epsy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/include-zthreads
21:07 <DStar_> epsy: for ((i=1;i<=5;i++)); do .....
21:08 <luke-jr> wtf?
21:08 <epsy> luke-jr, why not just maintaining packages?
21:08 <luke-jr> for i in {1..5}; do .....
21:08 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
21:08 <epsy> separate packages for zthread
21:08 <luke-jr> zThreads itself is not maintained
21:08 <luke-jr> and why maintain all of it with our limited resources when we only use a small subset?
21:09 <epsy> so we have to maintain(ie put up and keep compatible) packages
21:09 <luke-jr> ...
21:09 <epsy> perhaps another project might need it
21:09 <luke-jr> shrug, whatever :p
21:10 * luke-jr goes back to unpacking
21:10 <epsy> since we already have to maintain packages ourselves for debian&co, that you are now used to ebuilds, and that I could easily put up a PKGBUILD, that does not sound too bad does it?
21:12 <P4> take a look how does the server starts: http://rafb.net/p/gyc35d68.html
21:13 <epsy> P4, nice :|
21:18 <guru3> epsy> guru3, xclan.armagetron.co.uk not xclan.net.tf X_x
21:18 <guru3> ?
21:19 <epsy> http://www.armagetronad.net/links.php
21:19 <guru3> aren't they like... the same?
21:20 <epsy> and well, i'd preferrably have it as ¦×¦ or ¦xclan¦
21:20 <epsy> guru3, the ad banner
21:20 <epsy> and the overall frame
21:20 <guru3> mhm
21:20 <guru3> you can change the link in svn
21:20 <guru3> and i'll svn update
21:21 <epsy> can you remember me what's the path from SVNROOT?
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21:21 <guru3> www/mainsite/links.php
21:21 <epsy> ty
21:23 <epsy> is the site served as UTF8?
21:23 <guru3> check the headers on a get request
21:23 <guru3> or reall
21:23 <guru3> y
21:24 <epsy> Content-Encoding: gzip
21:24 <guru3> no content encoding is specified in the doctype
21:24 <guru3> didn't know it did that
21:24 <epsy> you should set one as meta
21:24 <epsy> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
21:25 <guru3> mhm
21:25 <epsy> i'll change it for you
21:25 <guru3> ok
21:25 <guru3> it's in includes/header.php
21:26 <epsy> yeah, i seen it
21:30 <epsy> also, the links page is probably invalid, afaik
21:30 <guru3> ?
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21:30 <epsy> HTML does not have <li></li> but <li> <li> <li>
21:31 <epsy> guess that's for another day :)
21:31 <guru3> Result: Tentatively passed, 3 warning(s)
21:31 <guru3> none of the warnings have to do with li
21:31 <guru3> one does have to do with charset though -_-
21:31 <epsy> indeed
21:32 <guru3> not bad though
21:32 <guru3> should do something to get a server browser back in there
21:32 <guru3> just not sure it's a wise idea to run it on the host over there
21:32 <guru3> as it's a process that tends to hang
21:32 <guru3> and in a year and a half i still haven't worked out a good solution for that
21:34 <epsy> when i get my home serv up&running, i'll look into one
21:35 <guru3> i had it running on my home serv
21:35 <guru3> but i left it too long
21:35 <guru3> and it used up all 65536 processes
21:35 <guru3> and locked the system
21:35 <guru3> talk about an awkward moment
21:35 <epsy> Oo
21:36 <armabot> armagetronad: epsy * r8602 /www/mainsite/ (includes/footer.php includes/header.php links.php): fixed xclan link + some invalidness
21:36 <epsy> revision r8602 committed
21:36 <epsy> :o
21:36 <epsy> i thought armabot had stopped
21:36 <epsy> relaying commit messages
21:36 <guru3> site updated
21:36 <luke-jr> epsy: zThreads has an ebuild
21:36 <luke-jr> in the main tree
21:37 <epsy> luke-jr, that's neat then, but wasn't it outdated?
21:37 <luke-jr> epsy: I wasn't aware HTML disallowed closing tags
21:38 <epsy> it was one of the main features of XHTML, to not allow shorttags
21:38 <luke-jr> epsy: also, meta tag content type is bad
21:38 <luke-jr> use header()
21:38 <epsy> the validation page itself recommends it
21:39 <luke-jr> epsy: HTML allows <li> w/o </li>, but I don't think it forbids </li>
21:39 <epsy> yeah, it does
21:39 <luke-jr> hum
21:39 <luke-jr> fwiw, websites I host are now across a wifi link
21:39 <epsy> lol
21:39 <luke-jr> stupid Cox hasn't transferred my server from old house to new place yet
21:40 <epsy> guru3, This document was successfully checked as HTML 4.01 Transitional! :)
21:40 <luke-jr> so got an AP at old house
21:40 <luke-jr> and router at new one, as a client
21:40 <luke-jr> so basically, my entire network is across WiFI :p
21:41 * epsy does not like
21:41 <epsy> all my passwords flying in the air :S
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21:42 <luke-jr> encrypted I hope
21:42 <luke-jr> and I am using WEP, since it is my WAN link going across the air this time
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21:42 <epsy> still, they are flying for everyone to grab
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21:44 <luke-jr> epsy: oh well
21:50 <luke-jr> ah, a desk
21:50 <luke-jr> finally I can sit!
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21:51 <luke-jr> where is my tool box?
21:52 <luke-jr> I need to remove a dud PCI card from my desktop before I boot it
21:52 <luke-jr> :/
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21:53 <luke-jr> Lackadaisical: where is my tool box????
21:54 <Lackadaisical> wat?
21:54 <luke-jr> WHERE IS MY FSCKING TOOL BOX??????????
21:54 <epsy> emerge fsck
21:55 <Lackadaisical> i don't know where your tool box is
21:55 <luke-jr> epsy: it's part of @system
21:55 <epsy> there it is!
21:55 <luke-jr> LIAR
21:56 <epsy> so in fact you don't want a fscking toolbox, you are the liar!
21:56 <luke-jr> I DO
21:57 <epsy> did you try using google?
21:57 <luke-jr> Google had better not have an index of my apartment -.-
21:57 <luke-jr> all I want is a screwdriver
21:58 <luke-jr> once that's done I can shed this stupid irssi
21:58 <luke-jr> and use Konversation again
21:58 * epsy imagines some little machine called GoogleBot trying to get hand of the mess that's my room
21:59 <luke-jr> your room is nothing compared to my appt
21:59 <luke-jr> I can hardly find the floor.
21:59 <luke-jr> and it's a 2 bedroom!
22:00 <luke-jr> at least I found the cable modem
22:02 <epsy> ow
22:02 <luke-jr> epsy: want to make me a Master lock bump key?
22:02 <luke-jr> then I can probably hook it up ;)
22:02 <epsy> Master lock bump key?
22:03 <luke-jr> yeah
22:03 <luke-jr> a key that opens any Master-brand lock
22:03 <epsy> @g Master lock bump key
22:03 <teabot> epsy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtbSKaOl_g - YouTube - Master Lock Bump Key
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22:31 <BabyBug> \o/
22:33 <epsy> ~~~
22:33 <epsy> /o\
22:34 <BabyBug> you fail
22:35 <epsy> no
22:35 <BabyBug> yes
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22:38 <epsy> no
22:38 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/babybug1.png
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22:39 <BabyBug> Umm?
22:39 <BabyBug> what's that?
22:39 <epsy> look in the top right-hand corner :þ
22:39 * BabyBug is confused
22:41 <epsy> the top right-hand corner is nothing confusing :D
22:42 <BabyBug> you fail
22:48 <epsy> no you!
22:48 <BabyBug> you!
22:49 <epsy> No!
22:49 <BabyBug> Yes!
22:51 <epsy> i didn't know google indexed stuff from nonstandard ports
22:51 <luke-jr> of course they do
22:54 <epsy> strangely, it returns forum posts as well, hehe
22:54 <epsy> http://www.google.com/blogsearch?hl=fr&num=10&c2coff=1&safe=active&ie=UTF-8&q=inpostauthor%3Aluke-jr&btnG=Rechercher&lr=
22:54 <luke-jr> of course it does
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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