IRCLogs for #armagetron in 2008-11-15 • ArmaNelgTron.tk

Log from 2008-11-15:
--- Day changed Sat Nov 15 2008
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00:01 <ivantis> you know
00:01 <ivantis> i dont think i have ever talked to CMD_L1N3
00:01 <ivantis> ever
00:01 <CMD_L1N3> hi ivantis i don't think i have ever talked to you either
00:01 <ivantis> weird
00:01 <CMD_L1N3> i'm so sorry
00:03 <ivantis> are kilobytes bigger than megabytes?
00:03 <BabyBug> CMD_L1N3, he's the most annoying person in the world, i wouldn't advise talking to him.
00:03 <ivantis> CMD_L1N3, BabyBug is mentally insane, i wouldn't advise listening to him
00:04 <CMD_L1N3> :-(
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00:05 <ivantis> who is blueamy?
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00:05 <epsy> not me, as far as i can tell
00:06 <epsy> CMD_L1N3, it's a she
00:06 <epsy> not a "him", as ivantis suggests
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00:06 <ivantis> BabyBug is a "she"?
00:07 <ivantis> that is amazing!
00:07 <CMD_L1N3> i'm not a she
00:07 <CMD_L1N3> confusion!!!
00:07 <ivantis> you know, there really needs to be an english word for "unisex"
00:07 <ivantis> like
00:07 <ivantis> …
00:07 <ivantis> idk
00:07  * blueamy agrees
00:07  * blueamy nods
00:07 <CMD_L1N3> ivantis: i think the word is 'heshe'
00:08 <BabyBug> Too easily twisted in shehe, then sheman, then shemale, that'd never work. Either way, him is considered unisex i believe
00:09 <blueamy> i'm just amy :)
00:10 <CMD_L1N3> what is the number form of drwxrwxrwxr
00:10 <CMD_L1N3> 0777?
00:10 <BabyBug> Yes
00:10 <CMD_L1N3> so 0775 = drwxrwxr-xr
00:10 <BabyBug> Octal permissions would be the correct name for the numbers CMD_L1N3
00:10 <BabyBug> May help if you ever do googling in the future
00:11 <CMD_L1N3> BabyBug: thanks
00:11 <CMD_L1N3> or if i ever want to sound smart
00:11 <BabyBug> lol that too =P
00:11 <BabyBug> I don't know the conversions between the two off by heart though =P
00:11 <BabyBug> however 0775 does = drwxrwxr-xr
00:11 <BabyBug> no r on the end sorry :P
00:12 <epsy> CMD_L1N3, use [ugoa]+[rwx] or [ugoa]-[rwx]
00:12 <epsy> way easier to remember
00:12  * BabyBug nods
00:12 <CMD_L1N3> ohh
00:12 <CMD_L1N3> i forgot about those
00:12 <epsy> u -> user, g -> group, o -> others, a -> all
00:12 <epsy> you seem to already know about rwx :)rwx
00:13 <BabyBug> What's +s?
00:13 <CMD_L1N3> sex
00:13 <epsy> something i never needed
00:13 <epsy> erm
00:13 <CMD_L1N3> chmod +s /home/yesplease
00:13 <BabyBug> i just remember seeing it one time...never bothered finding out what it did :P
00:13 <epsy> as long as CMD_L1N3 is wrong, that said
00:15 <epsy> +s and +t are optionnal stuff for runtime programs
00:15 <BabyBug> ah
00:15 <epsy> u+s will have the program being run as the actual owner of the file
00:15 <epsy> g+s will have the program being run as the actual owner group of the file
00:16 <epsy> instead of the current user
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00:16 <BabyBug> Oh i see
00:16 <BabyBug> That's quite clever
00:16 <epsy> possible, but fairly abusable as well
00:17  * epsy now understands how sudo works
00:17 <BabyBug> yeh that's what i was thinking =P
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00:18 <epsy> so it really makes sense then, that you can't change a file's UID or GID as regular user
00:19 <BabyBug> ya, and now i understand how sudo works aswell, hehe
00:19 <BabyBug> so simple
00:19 <epsy> and I've been using sudo since i've been using linux..eh
00:20 <BabyBug> heh
00:27 <ivantis> beep!
00:27 <ivantis> i must go
00:27 <ivantis> im eating out at Zen Zero tonight
00:27 <epsy> $ ls -ld `which sudo`
00:27 <epsy> ---s--x--x 2 root root 113928 juil.  1 04:22 /usr/bin/sudo
00:28 <epsy> ivantis, we don't even know what that means
00:28 <epsy> bb
00:28 <ivantis> http://www.zen-zero.com/\
00:28 <ivantis> http://www.zen-zero.com/
00:28 <ivantis> go there
00:28 <epsy> no
00:28 <ivantis> gud food
00:28 <epsy> what kind of food?
00:28  * BabyBug wants a curry =(
00:28 <ivantis> …
00:28  * blueamy wants pie
00:29  * BabyBug hasn't had a curry in almost a year now =(
00:29  * epsy haz pie
00:29 <ivantis> could you not guess by the "zen" in the name?
00:29 <ivantis> like
00:29 <epsy> no
00:29 <ivantis> uh
00:29  * blueamy is jealous
00:29 <ivantis> kind of like chinese food
00:29 <ivantis> from around in asia
00:29 <ivantis> well, im off
00:29 <ivantis> laterZ
00:29  * ivantis is out.
00:30 <epsy> it's like, you're telling your english teacher that the content of the book you're summing up is obvious by it's title
00:31 <epsy> on that, good night
00:31 <BabyBug> night \o
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00:57 <blueamy> :)
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01:01 <Vixuq> Howdie Ho! :D
01:02 <blueamy> :D
01:02 <blueamy> hewwo
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01:03 <BabyBug> lol
01:03 <blueamy> :(
01:03  * BabyBug cuddles blueamy =D
01:03 <blueamy> :D
01:03 <blueamy> hewwo
01:04  * BabyBug quits x)
01:04 <blueamy> :o
01:04 <BabyBug> hehe
01:07 <blueamy> XD
01:09 <blueamy> sooo many armagetrons =s
01:10 <BabyBug> hrmm?
01:12 <blueamy> armagetron IRC rooms
01:12 <blueamy> theres loads of em
01:12 <BabyBug> Oh, i only 2 :x
01:12 <BabyBug> or 3, depends how you look at it =D
01:15 <blueamy> ahhh okie
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02:49 <ivantis> mm
02:49 <ivantis> dinner at Zen Zero was good
02:50 <ivantis> BabyBug: here is your curry
02:50  * ivantis gives BabyBug curry.
02:50 <BabyBug> ivantis, i can't have curry ><
02:50 <ivantis> WhY?
02:50 <BabyBug> the spices
02:51 <ivantis> my expression -> `_'
02:51 <ivantis> ??
02:51 <BabyBug> I'm breastfeeding
02:51 <ivantis> WhY ThE SpIcEs?
02:51 <BabyBug> spices = no no
02:51 <ivantis> aH
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02:53 <akira_arma> .as
02:53 <akira_arma> .ls
02:54 <tronner> akira_arma: Usage: #lastseen [-f] <nick> -OR- #lastseen -g <nick>@<authority>
02:54 <akira_arma> hm
02:54 <akira_arma> .servers
02:54 <tronner> akira_arma: This data is 26 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (16/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (14/14), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (13/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (9/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), SPACEZONE I [HIGH SPEED!!] (8/8), |FA| BLACK TAR (5/16), The ~:VcL:~ Clan Server! (5/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (4/16), *Sco0py W0rld! (1 more message)
02:54 <akira_arma> .more
02:54 <tronner> akira_arma: (Loose DF) (3/16), The ~:VcL:~ Clan War Server! (3/12), Totito (2/16), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (2/16), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (1/16), PSI [Area 51] * Linux Dedicated Server (1/16), Adventures of TRON >>> AI Challenge  <<< (1/4), tre (1/16)
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03:44  * BabyBug locks Lucifer in the channel
03:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: it seams to be working
03:49 <BabyBug> yup =D
03:49  * BabyBug is strong x)
03:50 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you better help epsy out  http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18788&start=45
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03:51  * BabyBug doesn't post on forums
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03:56 <madmax> well epsy sure is persistent
03:56 <BabyBug> lol
03:56  * BabyBug blows a kiss to madmax 
03:57 <madmax> woot
03:58 <madmax> ok, gnight
03:58 <BabyBug> night o/
04:19 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: why don't you post on forums
04:20 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i just dont
04:20  * ct|kyle smacks BabyBug, that is not an answer
04:20 <BabyBug> I don't know why, i just don't like posting on forums
04:22 <ct|kyle> anyone know how to remove a program on vista that won't uninstall, keep in mind Windows does not even let you know where it is installed and searching does not work.
04:23 <BabyBug> add/remove programs?
04:23 <ct|kyle> that does not work
04:23 <BabyBug> is that what you mean by wont uninstall?
04:23 <BabyBug> ah
04:23 <ct|kyle> its the virus i got with JDK
04:23 <BabyBug> well, you're stuck then...But don't take my word for it, aint used windows in a long time
04:23 <xfroggy> eh i gotta read from the start
04:23 <xfroggy> whoops
04:23 <xfroggy> how i ended up here
04:23 <BabyBug> xfroggy!!!
04:23 <ct|kyle> o0 xfroggy
04:24  * xfroggy slowly walks away into the dark
04:24 <BabyBug> nuuuu
04:24  * BabyBug throws a rope around xfroggy and drags him back
04:24 <BabyBug> =D
04:24 <ct|kyle> everytime i use windows i wanna place it in an incinerator
04:24 <BabyBug> feel free to do so!
04:25 <ct|kyle> i pretended t throw my moms laptop, she got a little mad
04:25 <BabyBug> lol
04:25 <BabyBug> you live with your mom still? O.o
04:26 <ct|kyle> ya, goto college locally
04:26 <BabyBug> ahhh
04:26 <ct|kyle> fist thing is forst for the incinerator, Shelly Cashman Series books
04:26 <ct|kyle> first*
04:27 <ct|kyle> I am going to burn this book when i am done with the class :)
04:27 <BabyBug> Why take a course that involves java? You like java? O.o
04:28 <ct|kyle> well the choice was between visual C++ Visual C, visual Basic, Visual C#, or java or HTML and i had to pick 2
04:29 <BabyBug> what did you pick?
04:29 <ct|kyle> java and HTML
04:29 <xfroggy> LOL like its hard to guess
04:29 <BabyBug> =\
04:29 <xfroggy> Oo
04:29 <xfroggy> again im here
04:29 <ct|kyle> o0 xfroggy
04:29 <BabyBug> i dragged you back -P
04:30 <ct|kyle> tron players only xfroggy
04:30 <BabyBug> oops..a cyclops :o
04:30 <ct|kyle> oh wait NM i know you'll be here playing for the ladle
04:30 <xfroggy> what ladle? :o
04:32 <ct|kyle> Actually i think the firefox update downloaded the trojen
04:33  * BabyBug wants google chrome!
04:35  * ct|kyle too
04:35 <ct|kyle> actually it is buggy
04:35 <BabyBug> i wish they'd hurry up with a nix version
04:36 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:Ladle/Challenge_Board  <<I think chrome has not fucked up tables though
04:42 <BabyBug> =\
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05:36 <ct|kyle> :)
05:37 <ct|kyle> i was in ##windows
05:45 <BabyBug> why didn't you just /part? lol
05:46 <ct|kyle> :) forgot the command :P
05:46 <BabyBug> lol fail =P
05:47 <ct|kyle> i asked how to get rid of a virus watched  a few people argue about cell phones for 15 minutes then left :)
05:49 <ct|kyle> i should have used  DCC_SEND there
05:54 <BabyBug> lol
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06:39 <Lucifer> this is probbably the wrong place to ask this question, heh
06:39 <Lucifer> if I call a girl and get her voice mail, aand I leavee a message for her to call me back, should I call back, or wait for her to call me back?
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06:40 <BabyBug> Lucifer, wait for her to call back =P
06:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: you finally talked to her
06:41 <Lucifer> no,  I talked to her voice mail
06:41 <Lucifer> actually, I've talked ot her a little bit at the school
06:41 <BabyBug> and gave her a flower!
06:41 <ct|kyle> that is what i meant
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07:39 <Stewah> awww
07:39 <Stewah> you gave her a flower? :D
07:41 <akira_arma> new ladle??
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13:46 <Mixnetwork> hi all
13:47 <Mixnetwork> a linux script expert here?
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13:47 <Monkey_arma> well it depends what scripting language
13:48 <Monkey_arma> i know bash
13:48 <Mixnetwork> bash
13:48 <Mixnetwork> a nice
13:48 <Mixnetwork> lol
13:48 <Monkey_arma> would not say expert but i know it quite well
13:48 <Mixnetwork> i want to make a script that repeats itself
13:48 <Monkey_arma> ok
13:48 <Mixnetwork> somtehing like this
13:48 <Mixnetwork> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/3 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
13:48 <Mixnetwork> sleep 6000
13:49 <Monkey_arma> you use a loop
13:49 <Mixnetwork> this i have with 17 fgg files and must repat itself at the end
13:49 <Mixnetwork> cfg
13:49 <Monkey_arma> ah
13:49 <Mixnetwork> at the end a loop?
13:50 <Monkey_arma> now we must decide what type of loop
13:50 <Mixnetwork> if i start the script it must start over again if all commands ar done
13:50 <Monkey_arma> does it only do 17 then exit?
13:50 <Mixnetwork> jepp
13:51 <Mixnetwork> its for map rotation
13:51 <MrBougo> while sleep 6000; do
13:51 <Mixnetwork> i haf 17 maps
13:51 <MrBougo> or make a cron :p
13:51 <Mixnetwork> they must change every 10 minutes
13:51 <Monkey_arma> are your maps like this:
13:51 <Monkey_arma> /etc/armagetronad/cfg/3
13:51 <Mixnetwork> jep
13:51 <Monkey_arma> /etc/armagetronad/cfg/4
13:51 <Monkey_arma> /etc/armagetronad/cfg/5
13:51 <Monkey_arma> etc?
13:52 <Mixnetwork> yes
13:52 <Monkey_arma> from 1 to 17?
13:52 <Mixnetwork> yes
13:52 <Monkey_arma> code coming up ;)
13:52 <MrBougo> hehe
13:52 <Mixnetwork> jipeee
13:52 <Mixnetwork> :)
13:52 <MrBougo> will you use arithmetic expansion, Monkey_arma ?
13:52 <Monkey_arma> bougo?
13:53 <Mixnetwork> he is writing :)
13:53 <MrBougo> Monkey_arma, to cycle through the numbers
13:53 <Monkey_arma> no
13:53 <Monkey_arma> a for loop
13:53 <MrBougo> aighty
13:53 <MrBougo> I guess he wants to come back to 1 when 17 is done
13:54 <Mixnetwork> jepp
13:54 <Monkey_arma> oh
13:54 <Monkey_arma> he said not:
13:54 <Monkey_arma> <Monkey_arma> does it only do 17 then exit?
13:54 <Monkey_arma> <Mixnetwork> jepp
13:54 <Monkey_arma> !!
13:54 <Monkey_arma> so make your mind up please
13:54 <MrBougo> eh
13:54 <Mixnetwork> as i said it must start again if 17 is done
13:54 <Monkey_arma> so always 1-17,1-17,...?
13:54 <MrBougo> didnt read that :p
13:55 <Monkey_arma> well its ok
13:55  * Monkey_arma works on it
14:06 <Monkey_arma> almost done
14:07 <Mixnetwork> fine
14:07 <Monkey_arma> explain the sleep 6000
14:07 <Monkey_arma> you want to not go back to beginning for 6000?
14:07 <Monkey_arma> or?
14:07 <Monkey_arma> i dont see why you would do that i'm a little confused
14:09 <Monkey_arma> Mixnetwork ?
14:09 <Mixnetwork> yes
14:09 <Monkey_arma> ah sorry i misread
14:09 <Mixnetwork> ok
14:10 <Monkey_arma> so you want to sleep after every copy?
14:10 <Monkey_arma> i see now
14:10 <Monkey_arma> ok wait a sec
14:10 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash$
14:10 <Monkey_arma> while true ; do$
14:10 <Monkey_arma>   for (( MAP_NUMBER=1 ; ${MAP_NUMBER}<=17 ; MAP_NUMBER++ )) $
14:10 <Monkey_arma>   do cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/${MAP_NUMBER} /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg$
14:10 <Monkey_arma>   sleep 6000s$
14:10 <Monkey_arma>   done$
14:11 <Monkey_arma> done$
14:11 <Mixnetwork> yes because thy should play 10 minutes at this map before next one comes
14:11 <Monkey_arma> ok thats it
14:11 <Monkey_arma> er wtf is that $ doing ther?
14:11 <Monkey_arma> hehe i copied from vim ok sry i do again
14:11 <Monkey_arma> ==================================================
14:11 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash$
14:11 <Monkey_arma> while true ; do$
14:11 <Monkey_arma>   for (( MAP_NUMBER=1 ; ${MAP_NUMBER}<=17 ; MAP_NUMBER++ )) $
14:11 <Monkey_arma>   do cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/${MAP_NUMBER} /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg$
14:11 <Monkey_arma>   sleep 6000s$
14:11 <Monkey_arma>   done$
14:11 <Monkey_arma> done$
14:11 <Monkey_arma> ==================================================
14:12 <Monkey_arma> fucking hell
14:12 <Monkey_arma> ok one more time
14:12 <Monkey_arma> ==================================================
14:12 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash
14:12 <Monkey_arma> while true ; do
14:12 <Monkey_arma>   for (( MAP_NUMBER=1 ; ${MAP_NUMBER}<=17 ; MAP_NUMBER++ ))
14:12 <Monkey_arma>   do cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/${MAP_NUMBER} /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
14:12 <Monkey_arma>   sleep 6000s
14:12 <Monkey_arma>   done
14:12 <Monkey_arma> done
14:12 <Monkey_arma> ==================================================
14:12 <Monkey_arma> OK that is it
14:12 <Mixnetwork> thx
14:12 <Monkey_arma> np
14:12 <Mixnetwork> i ty it right away :)
14:12 <Monkey_arma> ye do that
14:12 <Mixnetwork> try
14:12 <Monkey_arma> tell me if it works
14:13 <Monkey_arma> try changing 6000 to something smaller to test
14:13 <Monkey_arma> i should really have indented the for loop too, sry im tired
14:13  * Monkey_arma slaps self
14:14 <Mixnetwork> hehe
14:14 <Monkey_arma>  
14:14 <Monkey_arma>  
14:14 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash
14:14 <Monkey_arma> while true ; do
14:14 <Monkey_arma>     for (( MAP_NUMBER=1 ; ${MAP_NUMBER}<=17 ; MAP_NUMBER++ )); do
14:14 <Monkey_arma>       cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/${MAP_NUMBER} /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
14:14 <Monkey_arma>       sleep 6000s
14:14 <Monkey_arma>   done
14:14 <Monkey_arma> done
14:14 <Monkey_arma>  
14:14 <Monkey_arma>  
14:14 <Monkey_arma>  
14:15 <Monkey_arma> that is spot on now ok i need some breakfast to get my lame brain working
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14:46 <Mixnetwork> hmm
14:48 <MrBougo> Monkey_arma
14:48 <MrBougo> ${MAP_NUMBER}<=17
14:48 <MrBougo> hur?
14:49 <MrBougo> but that doesn't cycle
14:50 <MrBougo> use arithmetic eval
14:51 <MrBougo> (( ($MAP_NUMBER - 1) % 17 <= 16 ))
14:51 <MrBougo> I guess
14:51 <MrBougo> woops, dollar sign before it
14:52 <MrBougo> oh lol
14:52 <MrBougo> I suck too
14:52 <MrBougo> that sort of makes no sense as it will always be true xD
14:52 <epsy> hrhr
14:52 <MrBougo> MAP_NUMBER = $(( ($MAP_NUMBER - 1) % 17 + 1 ))
14:53 <epsy> belgian programming ftw
14:53 <MrBougo> or use sane file names, starting with map0
14:53 <MrBougo> that makes stuff easier
14:53 <MrBougo> also it's +2
14:53 <MrBougo> duh
14:53  * BabyBug waves
14:53 <MrBougo> and not
14:53 <MrBougo> oh gosh I suck today
14:54 <MrBougo> MAP_NUMBER = $(( $MAP_NUMBER % 17 + 1 ))
14:54 <Mixnetwork> hmmm it seems that it doe not work
14:54 <Mixnetwork> that i must chage?
14:54 <MrBougo> nope
14:54 <Mixnetwork> change
14:54 <MrBougo> wait for Monkey_arma  :p
14:54 <Mixnetwork> ok
14:54 <MrBougo> don't listen to the belgian fool
14:54 <MrBougo> (that's me)
14:54 <epsy> isn't it $[] in bash?
14:54 <Mixnetwork> lol
14:54 <MrBougo> epsy, nope
14:55 <BabyBug> It appeared to run fine here
14:55 <epsy> ..for arithmetics
14:55 <MrBougo> the most uptodate arithmetic expansion is $(())
14:55 <MrBougo> epsy, $[] is deprecated
14:55 <MrBougo> so is ``
14:55 <epsy> what i am meant to use instead of `` ?
14:55 <MrBougo> $()
14:55 <epsy> pf
14:56 <MrBougo> er
14:56 <MrBougo> ` sucks on french keyboards anyway
14:56 <MrBougo> also, is it ` or is it something else
14:56 <MrBougo> I always forget
14:56 <epsy> i remember it ^^
14:56 <epsy> and it's not that hard to type
14:57 <MrBougo> [ ] is deprecated too
14:57 <MrBougo> use [[ ]] instead
14:57 <epsy> altgr + 77
14:57 <MrBougo> [ ] is a symlink to the "test" command, [[ ]] is builtin
14:58 <MrBougo> http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php/mirroring/bashfaq/082
14:58 <BabyBug> .ctos
14:58 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (10/12): 1200, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), Fini, H¦A¦ld, ikono, Jey Ay, Tony Romo, TrT~MADEinCHINA, ~*d3m0n*~, ~*OmegA*~
14:58 <BabyBug> .ctwf
14:58 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (0/14):
14:58 <epsy> .ls babybug
14:58 <tronner> epsy: BabyBug has last been seen on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) 11 hours 24 minutes ago.
14:59 <BabyBug> =P
14:59 <epsy> zomgzoamg
14:59 <BabyBug> ...
14:59 <MrBougo> .ls mrbougo
14:59 <MrBougo> xD
14:59 <tronner> MrBougo: timed out
15:01 <MrBougo> I was wondering what's more readable and faster... if [[ blah ]]; then; foo
15:01 <MrBougo> or [[blah]] && foo
15:01 <epsy> latter
15:02 <MrBougo> that's what I thought
15:02 <epsy> (except if you're spanning on multiple lines)
15:02 <MrBougo> sure
15:02 <MrBougo> or using an else statement
15:02 <epsy> can still work
15:02 <MrBougo> sure, but it looks hacky
15:03 <epsy> (condition && this && that) || that && shit
15:03 <MrBougo> :p
15:03 <MrBougo> shit?
15:03 <epsy> i actually meant this
15:03 <MrBougo> xD
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15:32 <Monkey_arma> guys, my code works
15:32 <Monkey_arma> whether you can do what you are trying to do with your maps is another matter
15:33 <Monkey_arma> it will only load a map after the round ends i think
15:33 <Monkey_arma> im not really into maps so ask someone else about that
15:35 <Mixnetwork> well if i do this command
15:35 <Mixnetwork> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/9 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:35 <Mixnetwork> it works
15:36 <Mixnetwork> so the only thing the script must do ist copey 1 cfg file to evrything.cfg wait a certain time and take the next one
15:36 <Monkey_arma> mixnetwork, i have tested my code and it works
15:36 <Monkey_arma> look:
15:37 <Mixnetwork> perhaps i started the script wrong?
15:37 <Monkey_arma> here is a sample with 2second delays
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/1 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/2 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/3 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/4 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/5 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma>  cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/6 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Mixnetwork> because i am not so familiar with linux
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/7 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/8 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/9 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/10 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/11 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Mixnetwork> hmm
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/12 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/13 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/14 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/15 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/16 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:37 <Mixnetwork> than i must doing something wrong
15:38 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/17 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:38 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/1 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:38 <Monkey_arma> cp /etc/armagetronad/cfg/2 /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:38 <Monkey_arma> that i did with echo statement
15:38 <Monkey_arma> yep
15:38 <Mixnetwork> how you stated it?
15:38 <Mixnetwork> started#
15:38 <Monkey_arma> first you must chmod it
15:38 <Mixnetwork> to
15:38 <Monkey_arma> 744 should be fine
15:39 <Monkey_arma> chmod 744 file
15:39 <Mixnetwork> hmmm i have
15:39 <Mixnetwork> i have 755
15:40 <Monkey_arma> try changing "cp" to "cp -f"
15:40 <Monkey_arma> that will force overwrite
15:40 <Mixnetwork> i did
15:41 <Monkey_arma> i still think it should not matter
15:41 <Monkey_arma> i start the script by just doing:
15:41 <Mixnetwork> i called the script rotation.sh and start it with screen /etc/init.d/rotation.sh
15:41 <Monkey_arma> file
15:41 <Mixnetwork> i also tried it witgout screen
15:42 <Mixnetwork> but nothing happens
15:43 <Monkey_arma> hmm
15:43 <Mixnetwork> is my start OK?
15:43 <Mixnetwork> the command i mena
15:43 <Mixnetwork> mean
15:43 <Monkey_arma> what user do you start the script as?
15:44 <Mixnetwork> root
15:44 <Monkey_arma> well first of all that is not very secure to do that but for now we will deal with this issue first
15:44 <Monkey_arma> are you sure you have the correct directories and files?
15:44 <Monkey_arma> /etc/arma...etc
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15:45 <Mixnetwork> jepp
15:45 <Monkey_arma> ah hang on
15:45 <Monkey_arma> do you exit as root after starting?
15:46 <Monkey_arma> (when you try it manually)
15:46 <Mixnetwork> no
15:46 <Monkey_arma> hmm
15:46 <Mixnetwork> not yet i waited
15:46 <Mixnetwork> but with sreen it does not matter if i detach the screen
15:46 <Monkey_arma> ok i tell you what, do this:
15:47 <Monkey_arma> just do it manually for now, and don't leave as root
15:47 <Monkey_arma> then do:
15:47 <Monkey_arma> first of all, change the 6000s to 30s
15:47 <Mixnetwork> ok
15:47 <Monkey_arma> then we will see if at least everytime is being overwritten
15:48 <Monkey_arma> so run the script then do:
15:48 <Monkey_arma> less /etc/armagetronad/everytime.cfg
15:48 <Monkey_arma> you can keep checking every 30 seconds if it has been overwritten
15:48 <Monkey_arma> (you will need to do the "less" command again each time
15:49 <Mixnetwork> hmmm
15:49 <Monkey_arma> make sure you do the less command stuff in another terminal
15:49 <Mixnetwork> iis this command wright?
15:49 <Mixnetwork>  screen /etc/init.d/rotation.sh
15:49 <Monkey_arma> dont touch the terminal with the script
15:49 <Monkey_arma> forget screen for now
15:49 <Mixnetwork> ok
15:50 <Monkey_arma> open 2 terminals
15:50 <Monkey_arma> in one do the script
15:50 <Mixnetwork> because it termintes immediately
15:50 <Monkey_arma> in the other do the less commands
15:50 <Monkey_arma> oO
15:50 <Monkey_arma> what distro?
15:50 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu?
15:50 <Mixnetwork> yep
15:50 <Monkey_arma> what terminal?
15:50 <Mixnetwork> putty i use
15:50 <Monkey_arma> ew
15:50 <Mixnetwork> to connect
15:51 <Monkey_arma> cant you use ssh?
15:51 <Mixnetwork> yes
15:51 <Monkey_arma> do that
15:52 <Monkey_arma> make 2 connections is the easiest way for this test
15:53 <Mixnetwork> i have now
15:53 <Monkey_arma> one for the script, one for the less commands
15:53 <Mixnetwork> running
15:53 <Monkey_arma> k
15:54 <Mixnetwork> hmmm works
15:54 <Mixnetwork> perhaps i must put thescript in root?
15:54 <Monkey_arma> ^^
15:54 <Monkey_arma> in root?
15:55 <Mixnetwork> now i have copied it in init.d
15:55 <Monkey_arma> hmk
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15:55 <Mixnetwork> hmm i stat it now also from there so, it must work
15:56 <Mixnetwork> started
15:56 <Mixnetwork> perhaps the sleep is too long
15:57 <Mixnetwork> hmmm script is no longer running
15:57 <Monkey_arma> well you can adjust that according to whatever you like
15:57 <Mixnetwork> it stopped
15:57 <Monkey_arma> er..
15:59 <Mixnetwork> hmmm it runs though prcess says its not running , starnge
15:59 <Mixnetwork> strange
15:59 <Monkey_arma> are you doing it via screen?
15:59 <Mixnetwork> no
15:59 <Monkey_arma> or just from bash?
15:59 <Monkey_arma> it should not stop ever
16:00 <Mixnetwork> thats how it should be yes
16:00 <Monkey_arma> how are you starting it?
16:00 <Mixnetwork> hmmm, now i wonder why its not running in screen
16:00 <Monkey_arma> does it work ok in interactive bash terminal for ever?
16:00 <Mixnetwork> eh
16:01 <Mixnetwork> wait
16:01 <Mixnetwork> small characters :)
16:01 <Monkey_arma> ?
16:02 <Mixnetwork> this way
16:02 <Mixnetwork> og
16:02 <Mixnetwork>  [/etc/init.d/rotation.sh]
16:03 <Monkey_arma> that is how to do it from screen?
16:03 <Mixnetwork> yes and also without screen
16:03 <Monkey_arma> yes
16:03 <Monkey_arma> i dont understand why you need screen
16:03 <Monkey_arma> forget screen
16:03 <Mixnetwork> does not it end if i exit as root?
16:04 <Monkey_arma> do you understand how to alter init scripts?
16:04 <Mixnetwork> no :(
16:04 <Monkey_arma> heh
16:04 <Monkey_arma> :
16:04 <Monkey_arma> well i will see if i can help
16:04 <Monkey_arma> shame ubunutu uses sysv scripts
16:05 <Monkey_arma> type this:
16:05 <Monkey_arma> who -a
16:05 <Monkey_arma> tell me what run-level you are in
16:05 <Mixnetwork> now i have exit putty and the script stopped
16:05 <Monkey_arma> who -a
16:05 <Monkey_arma> we will make the script permanent dont worry
16:06 <Mixnetwork> ok i am logged in again
16:06 <Mixnetwork> run level 2
16:06 <Monkey_arma> so that is the run level that arma will be in when you run it on the server yes?
16:07 <Mixnetwork> yes
16:07 <Monkey_arma> (when i say run level i mean on the server)
16:07 <Monkey_arma> ok good
16:07 <Mixnetwork> must be :)
16:07 <Mixnetwork> hmmm
16:07 <Mixnetwork> i can start the script over webimin now
16:08 <Mixnetwork> you know webmin
16:08 <Mixnetwork> ?
16:08 <Monkey_arma> forget webmin
16:08 <Mixnetwork> lol
16:08 <Monkey_arma> we will alter an init script
16:08 <Monkey_arma> im just looking at my old debian etc directory
16:08 <Mixnetwork> hehe
16:09 <Monkey_arma> ok i think we are in luck
16:09 <Mixnetwork> if this work i have to transfer all to my virtual server :)
16:09 <MrBougo> Monkey_arma, wheres your script?
16:09 <Monkey_arma> you can make a file called /etc/rc.local and put any commands in there to start at boot
16:09 <Monkey_arma> so do that
16:09 <MrBougo> eh
16:09 <Monkey_arma> put the script command in that
16:09 <Monkey_arma> ok?
16:09 <MrBougo> that will make it for *any* user
16:10 <MrBougo> and it will do the rotation *all the time*
16:10 <Monkey_arma> he wants it all the time no?
16:10 <MrBougo> oh well =p
16:10 <Monkey_arma> any user wtf bougo?
16:10 <Mixnetwork> ah shit
16:10 <Monkey_arma> that is an init script
16:10 <MrBougo> I dont know
16:10 <MrBougo> Mixnetwork, are you running this machine only for the server?
16:11 <Mixnetwork> at the moment yes, its my local test machine
16:11 <MrBougo> oh well
16:11 <MrBougo> that's fine then
16:11 <Mixnetwork> if it work i want to put it on my virtual server i have
16:11 <Monkey_arma> we can do it another way Mixnetwork
16:11 <Monkey_arma> we can make a wrapper script if you dont want it to be every time the machine boots
16:12 <Mixnetwork> ehm, i saw my fault now that i made
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16:12 <Mixnetwork> i ha sleep 6000s not 600s so i could wait a very long time
16:13 <Mixnetwork> had
16:13 <Mixnetwork> [/etc/init.d/rotation.sh: 3: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable]
16:14 <Monkey_arma> why do you do this /etc/init.d?
16:14 <Monkey_arma> you dont need to do that
16:14 <Monkey_arma> forget screen
16:14 <Monkey_arma> or whatever you are doing
16:15 <Mixnetwork> i tried to start it over webmin :)
16:15 <Mixnetwork> just a try
16:15 <Monkey_arma> ok this is what we will do for now
16:15 <Monkey_arma> we will make a wrapper script
16:16 <Monkey_arma> i will give you commands to do
16:16 <Mixnetwork> ok
16:16 <Monkey_arma> "whereis armagetronad"
16:16 <Monkey_arma> show me result#
16:17 <Mixnetwork> v
16:17 <Mixnetwork> [ /etc/armagetronad]
16:18 <Monkey_arma> oO
16:18 <Monkey_arma> what is v? what is [ ] ?
16:19 <Mixnetwork> v was wrong key :) [ is that he shows the code in here
16:19 <Mixnetwork> ohterwis i get a message Unknown comand ::)
16:20 <Monkey_arma> ok more commands:
16:21 <Monkey_arma> you only got /etc/armagetronad for whereis?
16:21 <Mixnetwork> yep
16:21 <Monkey_arma> you should have a binary
16:21 <Monkey_arma> i get this:
16:21 <Monkey_arma> armagetronad: /etc/armagetronad /usr/local/bin/armagetronad
16:21 <BabyBug> Just my 2 cents sanity check, you didn't include the " did you Mixnetwork?
16:22 <Mixnetwork> hmmm me not
16:22 <Monkey_arma> try "which armagetron"
16:22 <Monkey_arma> try "which armagetronad"
16:22 <Monkey_arma> sory
16:22 <Mixnetwork> but server runs with command amgagetrobad-dedicated
16:22 <Monkey_arma> ah ye
16:22 <Monkey_arma> "whereis armagetronad-dedicated"
16:23 <Mixnetwork> [/etc/armagetronad-dedicated /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated.real ]
16:23 <Monkey_arma> ok commands:
16:24 <Monkey_arma> "mv /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated.bin"
16:24 <Mixnetwork> ?? move? than the other servers won't run anymore
16:25 <Monkey_arma> trust me
16:25 <Monkey_arma> we have not finished yet
16:25 <Mixnetwork> ok done
16:25 <Monkey_arma> what directory is your rotation script?
16:26 <Monkey_arma> put it where you like best then tell me
16:26 <Mixnetwork> now i hav it in root
16:27 <Monkey_arma> for now, put it in /usr/games
16:27 <Mixnetwork> ok
16:27 <Monkey_arma> now more commands:
16:28 <Mixnetwork> done
16:29 <Monkey_arma> "echo armagetronad-dedicated.bin > /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated"
16:29 <Monkey_arma> "echo rotation.sh > /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated"
16:29 <Monkey_arma> ah no
16:29 <Monkey_arma> jeez i start again
16:29 <Mixnetwork> lol
16:30 <Monkey_arma> "> armagetronad-dedicated"
16:30 <Monkey_arma> "echo armagetronad-dedicated.bin > /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated"
16:30 <Monkey_arma> "echo rotation.sh >> /usr/games/armagetronad-dedicated"
16:30 <Monkey_arma>  
16:30 <Monkey_arma> note the >>
16:31 <Monkey_arma> that should work fine now i think
16:31 <Mixnetwork> ok i try it now
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16:33 <Mixnetwork> hmmm armagetron is not starting
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16:33 <K-Yo> haha, wrong app :P*
16:34 <MrBougo> uh Monkey_arma
16:34 <MrBougo> what your wrapper does is start arma's dedicated, and when it quits, it then starts the rotation thing
16:34 <Monkey_arma> good point
16:34 <Mixnetwork> lol
16:34 <MrBougo> also, you need ./
16:35 <Monkey_arma> ?
16:35 <MrBougo> ./rotation.sh&
16:35 <Monkey_arma> ah if your path is not set
16:35 <MrBougo> ./armagetronad-dedicated.bin
16:35 <Monkey_arma> i set my path
16:35 <Monkey_arma> ye his path will not be set like mine
16:35 <Monkey_arma> yep, as bougo says, he is right on this one
16:36 <Monkey_arma> edit the armagetronad-dedicated file
16:36 <Monkey_arma> put:
16:36 <Mixnetwork> what must i do?
16:36 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash
16:36 <Monkey_arma> ./rotation.sh&
16:36 <Monkey_arma> ./armagetronad-dedicated.bin
16:36 <Monkey_arma> er no bougo you are wrong
16:37 <MrBougo> and it will fail
16:37 <Monkey_arma> jeez you belgians
16:37 <MrBougo> as it can not be exec'd from "outside"
16:37 <Monkey_arma>  
16:37 <Monkey_arma>  
16:37 <epsy>  
16:37 <epsy>  
16:37 <Monkey_arma> #!/bin/bash
16:37 <Monkey_arma> ./armagetronad-dedicated.bin&
16:38 <Monkey_arma> ./rotation.sh&
16:38 <Monkey_arma> like that
16:38  * epsy feels like going c-c-c-combo breaker!
16:38 <MrBougo> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
16:38 <Monkey_arma> the first 3 lines
16:38 <MrBougo> why is this, Monkey_arma
16:38 <MrBougo> so you start the server in background and the rotation script too
16:38 <Monkey_arma> or will that end hmm
16:38 <MrBougo> why wouldn't you leave the ded in foreground
16:38 <MrBougo> also, if you quit the server, it will keep the rotation running
16:39 <MrBougo> if you restart it, it will make the rotation run TWICE
16:39 <MrBougo> at the same time
16:39 <MrBougo> == fail
16:39 <Monkey_arma> your way, the rotation does not stop after the server stops
16:39 <Monkey_arma> also, it starts before the server even starts
16:39 <Mixnetwork> hehe
16:39 <MrBougo> yes, and?
16:39 <MrBougo> it starts at the same time than the server
16:39 <Mixnetwork> it musz not be so complicated
16:39 <MrBougo> and with your way it does not stop when the server stops
16:40 <Monkey_arma> we need to source those commands i think
16:40 <MrBougo> uuh
16:40 <MrBougo> why?
16:40 <Monkey_arma> to source the file
16:40 <BabyBug> <3 epsy
16:40 <MrBougo> yes, and what would that do?
16:41 <MrBougo> obviously nothing special
16:41 <Mixnetwork> ehm
16:41 <epsy> Shark BabyBug!
16:41 <BabyBug> O.o
16:41 <Monkey_arma> bougo i think you are complicating things
16:41 <Mixnetwork> well server is running always
16:41 <MrBougo> running bash scripts along with another program is fail
16:41 <Monkey_arma> no its not
16:41 <Mixnetwork> i have alreade 3 server runnig
16:41 <Monkey_arma> wtf?
16:41 <epsy> especially with python
16:41 <epsy> *cough* teabot *cough*
16:41 <Monkey_arma> just run in background like i did
16:41 <BabyBug> python rox!
16:42 <MrBougo> you'd need a ps aux | grep "armagetronad-dedicated" | grep -v grep into your iteration in your rotation.sh
16:42 <MrBougo> and kill if it does not return anything
16:42 <Monkey_arma> but source the file with the commands in
16:42 <MrBougo> and make it create a lockfile that prevents it to run twice
16:42 <Monkey_arma> we can do a loop
16:42 <MrBougo> what does source bring
16:42 <Monkey_arma> that checks for existance of that
16:42 <Mixnetwork> well i am very confused now
16:43 <MrBougo> source makes the script run in the current environment
16:43 <MrBougo> what's the purpose of this?
16:43 <Monkey_arma> i was thinking of not backgrounding the last command
16:43 <MrBougo> run the rotation before the dedicated
16:43 <Monkey_arma> w/e
16:44 <MrBougo> and only the rotation in background
16:44 <MrBougo> make the rotation check if the dedicated is running before copying the files
16:44 <MrBougo> and put an exit if it's not running
16:44 <MrBougo> there you go
16:44 <Monkey_arma> whats with all the ps aux crap?
16:44 <MrBougo> it's hacky
16:44 <Monkey_arma> ye its hacky
16:44 <MrBougo> Monkey_arma, just imagine this
16:44 <MrBougo> I run my arma server
16:44 <MrBougo> then I decide to shut it down for a second
16:44 <MrBougo> I restart it
16:45 <MrBougo> now I get *two* rotation scripts running in background
16:45 <Monkey_arma> bougo, use pgrep
16:45 <MrBougo> oh I didn't know that :p
16:45 <Monkey_arma> ok
16:45 <epsy> use pid files?
16:45 <MrBougo> epsy, does arma make pid files?
16:45 <Monkey_arma> yes it does
16:45 <MrBougo> neat
16:46 <epsy> i guess so
16:46 <MrBougo> what does it do when you run multiple instances?
16:46 <Monkey_arma> heh
16:46 <Monkey_arma> idk
16:46 <Monkey_arma> probably goes crazy
16:46 <epsy> MrBougo, the init script does, not arma itself
16:46 <Monkey_arma> :)
16:46 <Mixnetwork> hey, i start my other servers with a script so i think we dont must d anything here
16:46 <MrBougo> epsy, is it bash?
16:46 <MrBougo> I may be interested
16:46 <epsy> so you can't start multiple instances with it
16:46 <epsy> MrBougo, yes
16:46 <MrBougo> sweet
16:46 <MrBougo> where are the reps?
16:46 <MrBougo> oh it's cvs
16:46 <MrBougo> or bazaar
16:46 <MrBougo> I don't remember
16:46 <MrBougo> is there an http gateway?
16:47 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/files
16:47 <MrBougo> thanks
16:47 <epsy> that's no gateway btw :þ
16:47 <MrBougo> oh well
16:47 <MrBougo> what is it :p
16:47 <Monkey_arma> i gtg now :\
16:47 <epsy> idk, perhaps install arma :D
16:47 <MrBougo> uuh
16:48 <MrBougo> the link you sent me
16:48 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/files/910?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Abatch
16:48 <epsy> probably thee
16:48 <MrBougo> it's a way to browse the bzr reps through http
16:48 <epsy> there*
16:48 <epsy> this is it..
16:48 <MrBougo> /batch/serverstarter.in
16:48 <MrBougo> I guess
16:49 <MrBougo> oh
16:49 <MrBougo> shucks
16:49 <MrBougo> it stores the pid of the bash script
16:49 <MrBougo> not of the program :p
16:49 <epsy> uhm, no
16:49 <epsy> ${BINDIR}/@progname@@executable_suffix@ --userdatadir ${VARDIR} --daemon $* &
16:49 <epsy> 		    jobs -p > ${PIDDIR}/@progname@.pid
16:49 <Monkey_arma> Mixnetwork if you don't get this sorted while i am away i will do a "nice" script for you later that is more tidy.
16:50 <MrBougo> oh
16:50 <MrBougo> echo $$ > ${PIDDIR}/@progname@-starter.pid
16:50 <MrBougo> I see
16:50 <MrBougo> nvm
16:50 <MrBougo> got confused :D
16:50 <MrBougo> argh, it relies on background processes
16:50 <MrBougo> been trying that x_x
16:50 <epsy> as any init script
16:50 <MrBougo> sure
16:51 <MrBougo> well
16:51 <MrBougo> I made some script for nex
16:51 <MrBougo> to auto-restart on crash and freeze
16:51 <MrBougo> but I wanted to keep stdin active for the server console
16:52 <epsy> you can fake it on another console
16:52 <MrBougo> yeah, using fifo crap?
16:52 <epsy> tail -fn0 /path/to/log & cat >>stdin
16:52 <MrBougo> tried that :p
16:53 <MrBougo> hur?
16:53 <MrBougo> ouch
16:53 <MrBougo> gonna try this
16:53 <epsy> when cat is given no argument, it takes input from stdin, as many other GNU programs
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17:21 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: how do you say T2RN?
17:22 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, Turn
17:22 <epsy> ct|kyle, it's TR2N, b00
17:22 <ct|kyle> that what i mean TR2N BabyBug
17:23 <BabyBug> Then Tur-Toon =P
17:23 <epsy> ct|kyle, well you don't use the right font :þ
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17:23 <ct|kyle> epsy: i did you just can't see it here :P
17:23 <epsy> lies
17:24 <BabyBug> kyle never tells the truth
17:24 <ct|kyle> + when pidgin exports in IRC it converts it to plain text
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17:43 <madmax> as anyone seen eggcozy recently?
17:43 <BabyBug> heh, cute name ^^
17:45 <madmax> huh, *has
17:52 <BabyBug> does anyone have the tar.gz of 0.3.0 from beta.armagetronad.net?
17:56 <epsy> why would you need that? it's 2 years old and you know how to compile from bzr sources
17:57 <BabyBug> I prefer 0.3.0 over any of the 0.2.x brances, and the bzr of 0.3 crashes on me =P (i know 0.3.0 works)
17:57 <epsy> you may try r1 from bzr
17:58 <BabyBug> How do i get a specific revision?
17:58 <epsy> bzr revert i guess
17:59 <epsy> or bzr co
17:59 <BabyBug> kk, 2 years though? O.o wow
18:03 <MrBougo> wait
18:03 <MrBougo> whats the current version?
18:04 <epsy> 0.2.8.2.1
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18:14 <madmax> the terror: http://datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php
18:15 <P4> 0.2.8.2.1 is the current version since years :þ
18:22 <epsy> madmax, http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=8GT2WrsCDmI
18:22  * epsy got infected with pl youtube, thanks google
18:29  * BabyBug disinfects epsy
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18:32 <P4> lol
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22:47 <flea_> armabot lastseen haha
22:47 <armabot> flea_: haha has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 20 minutes ago.
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23:04 <madmax> #tea
23:04 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone: Players (1/32): CT_emmy
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23:26 <Lackadaisical> #tea
23:26 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone: Players (4/32): -=VcL.Gazelle, CT_emmy, CT°Concord, Karma Houdini
23:27  * madmax heads there
23:30 <BabyBug> madmax, you two timer
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23:48 <madmax> two timer?
23:50 <BabyBug> yeh!
23:50 <epsy> Indeed!
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