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Log from 2008-11-17:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 17 2008
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00:30 <Ratchet--> hello
00:30 <Ratchet--> folks
00:31 <Ratchet--> I have a question. Is there a command to remove names above lightcycles, therefore enabling stealth?
00:35 <ivantis> huh?
00:35 <ivantis> not server side
00:35 <ivantis> client side, its in display settings
00:36 <Ratchet--> so its impossible to do with the server itself?
00:36 <ivantis> jah
00:36 <Ratchet--> lame
00:37 <ivantis> even if there was, a simple client hack could make it show the names again
00:37 <ivantis> the client needs to know where each player is
00:37 <Ratchet--> o
00:42 <Ratchet--> Lulz.
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00:48 <Paralyzed> o.o
00:48 <Paralyzed> hey peeps
00:48 <ivantis> hey peep
00:48 <Paralyzed> xD rawful
00:48  * Paralyzed is working on a map
00:48 <ct|kyle> o0
00:49 <ivantis> 8Þ
00:49 <ivantis> :Þ
00:49 <Paralyzed> its uhm
00:49 <ivantis> uhm...
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00:50 <Paralyzed> a paintball fortress map mixed with ctf
00:50 <ivantis> hey look hes back
00:50 <Paralyzed> like real paintball xD
00:50 <ivantis> yawn
00:50 <Paralyzed> lol
00:50 <ivantis> that sounds REALLY boring
00:50 <ivantis> paintball and ctf?
00:50 <ivantis> weird
00:50 <Paralyzed> ratchet is gonna make it so when break, u break completely
00:50 <ivantis> what you have so far?
00:50 <Paralyzed> lol i had a paintball server before
00:50 <ivantis> ??
00:50 <Paralyzed> it was good only one problem lag
00:50 <ivantis> when you break what?
00:50 <Paralyzed> so now i have  abetter host
00:51 <Paralyzed> when when you hit the brakes
00:51 <ivantis> oh
00:51 <Paralyzed> your cycle completly stops
00:51 <Paralyzed> to hide XD
00:51 <Paralyzed> then you speed right back up on release
00:51 <ivantis> i had a good idea: when you are hit with a paintball, you turn that color
00:51 <ivantis> huh? huh?
00:51 <Paralyzed> lOL!
00:51 <ivantis> is that gold or what?
00:51 <Paralyzed> its gold only one prob
00:51 <ivantis> possibly would need a client side modification
00:52 <Paralyzed> what if everyone is the same color :P
00:52 <Paralyzed> you turn back inta ya color ll
00:52 <ivantis> youre getting hung up on that?
00:52 <ivantis> so what?
00:52 <Paralyzed> lolll
00:52 <Paralyzed> also im working on mixing it in with gauntlet
00:53 <Paralyzed> like from jackass XD moving death zones
00:53 <ivantis> i assume sty+ct?
00:53 <Paralyzed> well.
00:54 <Paralyzed> it of course is armahacktron
00:54 <Paralyzed> DD is gonna host
00:54 <ivantis> maybe you should use my modifications
00:54 <Paralyzed> im not sure about the moving dz's though people might complain.
00:54 <ivantis> i modified armahacktron
00:54 <ivantis> is now sty+ct+ivantis
00:54 <Paralyzed> ScI?
00:54 <Paralyzed> Sci Fi O.o
00:54 <ivantis> have you ever played at SPACE-LAB Shooting?
00:54 <Paralyzed> yep
00:54 <ivantis> #sd space-lab
00:54 <armabot> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting!: Players (0/8):
00:55 <ivantis> you know the teleporting?
00:55 <ivantis> i made that hack
00:55 <Paralyzed> woah woah
00:55 <Paralyzed> on flower power too?
00:55 <ivantis> …
00:55 <ivantis> WHAT???
00:55 <Paralyzed> flower power sumo assault
00:55 <Paralyzed> they have teleporting
00:55 <ivantis> they have teleporting on flower power?
00:55 <ivantis> oh right
00:55 <Paralyzed> yep
00:55 <Paralyzed> lol
00:55 <ivantis> i think that is script controlled
00:55 <Paralyzed> they jacked chu
00:55 <ivantis> ct|kyle gave me the idea
00:55 <Paralyzed> when i first say it
00:56 <Paralyzed> i was like WTF hacks
00:56 <Paralyzed> pretty nice man ;D
00:56 <ivantis> his was in a php script, but mine is in the code of the server
00:56 <Paralyzed> i wanted to make it so when your shot..
00:56 <Paralyzed> the shooter gets the point
00:56 <Paralyzed> you stay alive
00:56 <Paralyzed> im guessing since i havent seen it no one can do it as of now
00:56 <ivantis> you kidding me?
00:56 <ivantis> that is really easy
00:56 <Paralyzed> ....-.-!
00:56 <ct|kyle> yes flower power is script controled
00:56 <ivantis> ill have it ready in a few minutes
00:57 <ivantis> so
00:57 <ct|kyle> it all came about based on an idea i had then voodoo added the hack to respawn players
00:57 <Paralyzed> is it a certain source code?
00:57 <ivantis> you get hit with a shot, and then, you stay alive, but the shooter gets the point(s)?
00:57 <ivantis> that what you want?
00:57 <Paralyzed> yes sir
00:57 <Paralyzed> yep ;D
00:57 <ivantis> hold on
00:58 <ivantis> let me look
00:58 <ivantis> wait...
00:58 <Paralyzed> my cat just vomited all over the floor....
00:58 <ivantis> it would also make death zones not kill you
00:58 <Paralyzed> yea i figured that
00:58 <ivantis> …
00:58 <ivantis> maybe not
00:58 <Paralyzed> its either gauntlet d zones or
00:58 <ivantis> im looking right now
00:58 <Paralyzed> invincibi;ity
00:59 <ivantis> oh, i also did a bugfix that makes death zones/shots not kill you when you are invincible
00:59 <Paralyzed> wow
00:59  * Paralyzed says ivan poons
01:00 <ivantis> maybe you should look into using my server
01:00 <ivantis> let me find the bzr link...
01:00 <Paralyzed> okey ;D
01:00 <ivantis> oh, here is my original post http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18682
01:01 <Paralyzed> just wondering do you think teleporting would fit anywhere in paint ball?
01:01 <ivantis> haha, now i remember the /suicide command
01:01 <Paralyzed> in a server setting, not in real life ROFL
01:01 <ivantis> totally
01:01 <Paralyzed> where would it fit under
01:01 <ivantis> idk
01:02 <Paralyzed> LOL
01:02 <ivantis> like, from room to room
01:02 <ivantis> like at my server
01:02 <Paralyzed> o.o
01:02 <Paralyzed> i suppose it could be
01:02 <Paralyzed> i wanted to do
01:02 <Paralyzed> each person has there own flag but
01:02 <Paralyzed> theres a bug that that
01:02 <Paralyzed> to that*
01:03 <Paralyzed> people could get multiple flags and it just would lag the server to mars
01:03 <ivantis> yeah
01:03 <ivantis> wait, you sure?
01:03 <ivantis> why would people have multiple flags?
01:03 <Paralyzed> well ww tried it once
01:03 <Paralyzed> because
01:03 <Paralyzed> ud capture one flag..
01:03 <Paralyzed> then u could move onto another players
01:04 <ivantis> oh right
01:04 <Paralyzed> i thought teliporting could fit there
01:04 <Paralyzed> i just dont want
01:04 <Paralyzed> 1 on 1
01:04 <ivantis> maybe 2 boxes, with teams
01:04 <Paralyzed> maybe 3 sections..
01:04 <Paralyzed> with 2v2
01:04 <ivantis> or 3 boxes
01:04 <Paralyzed> thats uhm..
01:04 <Paralyzed> let me do my math
01:04 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i have that hit with a shot than respawned scripted, just the patch has not been applied to the code
01:05 <Paralyzed> 12 lol
01:05 <ivantis> teams, and then like going from room to room
01:05 <Paralyzed> 12 person based game not bad
01:05 <Paralyzed> yea and then
01:05 <Paralyzed> a message would display
01:05 <Paralyzed> 3
01:05 <Paralyzed> 2
01:05 <Paralyzed> 1
01:05 <Paralyzed> xD
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01:05 <ivantis> blastoff
01:05  * Paralyzed plays dramatic space music
01:05 <ct|kyle> .si d rac
01:05 <Paralyzed> hmm sounds like a good idea
01:05 <tronner> ct|kyle: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (0/9):
01:06 <ct|kyle> that has respawns scripted now :)
01:06 <ct|kyle> up to 2 per player
01:06 <Paralyzed> Wild West =CTF Shooting=
01:06 <Paralyzed> aww
01:06 <Paralyzed> it didnt work
01:06 <ct|kyle> .si CTF S
01:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (0/10):
01:06 <Paralyzed> LOL!
01:07 <ct|kyle> .armaservers
01:07 <Paralyzed> s i stands for server info i presume?
01:07 <tronner> ct|kyle: This data is 38736 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (10/12), The YELLOW Submarine (8/16), WILDCAT (7/8), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), *Sco0py W0rld! (Loose DF) (4/16), |Forgotten Warriors~ High Rubber (3/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), .dBd|Death By Distraction (High Rubber) (2/8), Planet Budtron (1/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (1/8), (1 more message)
01:07 <Paralyzed> CApture the flag newbs
01:07 <Paralyzed> hey but ivan
01:07 <ct|kyle> heh wrtlprnft your date is as old as the dinosaurs again
01:07 <Paralyzed> hopefully path will know
01:07 <Paralyzed>  i mean
01:07 <Paralyzed> not path >.>
01:07 <Paralyzed> pink potatoes will know how to implement this :)
01:08 <ivantis> where is wrtlprnft anyway?
01:08 <ivantis> okay
01:08 <Paralyzed> any suggestions with a map?
01:08 <ivantis> my sisters and mom just got home from out of town
01:08 <ivantis> i should go greet them
01:08 <ivantis> anyway,
01:08 <ivantis> the map
01:08 <Paralyzed> i dont want it to be this
01:08 <Paralyzed> crunched in thing
01:08 <ivantis> play around with my hack if you can get it to work
01:09 <Paralyzed> will do :)
01:09 <Paralyzed> woah wierd smile
01:09 <ivantis> later
01:09 <Paralyzed> see ya
01:09  * ivantis is out.
01:09 <Paralyzed> Ratchet--
01:11 <BabyBug> god damnit wheres epsy
01:11 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: why do you wanna slap him or did you fix that bug?
01:12 <BabyBug> both...well....maybe both ;)
01:12 <Ratchet--> ?
01:12 <Ratchet--> .s CTF S
01:12 <Ratchet--> err
01:13 <Ratchet--> .si CTF S
01:13 <tronner> Ratchet--: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (0/10):
01:13 <Paralyzed> lol
01:13 <Paralyzed> lies
01:13 <Paralyzed> im in ther
01:13 <Paralyzed> with people
01:13 <Ratchet--> That's a lie.
01:13 <Ratchet--> i just now was
01:13 <Ratchet--> but just left
01:13 <Ratchet--> to read this
01:13 <Paralyzed> .armagetron servers
01:13 <Ratchet--> check this
01:13 <Ratchet--> .seen ~'Ns.Ratchet
01:13 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ~'Ns.Ratchet.
01:13 <Ratchet--> -.-
01:13 <Paralyzed> lol
01:13 <Ratchet--> .seen ratchet
01:13 <tronner> Ratchet--: ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 9 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
01:13 <Paralyzed> .seen Paralyzed
01:13 <tronner> Paralyzed: Paralyzed was last seen in #armagetron 3 seconds ago: <Paralyzed> lol
01:13 <Paralyzed> xD
01:14 <Ratchet--> lol
01:14 <Ratchet--> .seen ,
01:14 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen ,.
01:14 <Paralyzed> .seen santa
01:14 <tronner> Paralyzed: I have not seen santa.
01:14 <Paralyzed> .seen you naked
01:14 <tronner> Paralyzed: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
01:14 <Ratchet--> .seen kreelix
01:14 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen kreelix.
01:14 <Ratchet--> .seen Kreelix
01:14 <tronner> Ratchet--: I have not seen Kreelix.
01:14 <Ratchet--> ,,|,,
01:14 <Paralyzed> .seen you
01:14 <tronner> Paralyzed: I have not seen you.
01:22 <Lucifer> .seen a beautiful woman
01:22 <tronner> Lucifer: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
01:23 <Lucifer> .seen "a beautiful woman"
01:23 <noob13> .ls babe
01:23 <tronner> noob13: timed out
01:23 <noob13> :/
01:24 <Lucifer> BabyBug is a regular dominatrix
01:24  * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer 
01:25 <Lucifer> great, now I'm being flirted with over the internet
01:26  * Lucifer sighs
01:26 <BabyBug> flirting? no no, lol
01:27 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: did she call you back yet?
01:27 <Lucifer> heh, no
01:27  * ct|kyle takes BabyBug to bed
01:28 <Lucifer> probably better that way this weekend, since I had my kids
01:28 <ct|kyle> heh
01:28  * BabyBug chops ct|kyle into lots of little pieces and feeds him to the bigs
01:28 <BabyBug> pigs*
01:28 <BabyBug> or bigs, bigs works too
01:28 <ct|kyle> lol
01:29 <Lucifer> face it, ct|kyle (hi there!) , she's a one devil kind of girl
01:29 <ct|kyle> no she just does not want to admin she like me :P
01:29 <ct|kyle> admit*
01:29 <BabyBug> What are you on about? I chop up all the people i like x)
01:29 <Lucifer> dude, if she's still young enough that she tells you she likes you by physically hurting you, you'd better reconsider this
01:30 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
01:31 <ct|kyle> it is funny what yo miss from linux when you try to use XP (for homework)
01:32 <Lucifer> I always immediately miss middle-click paste and multiple desktops
01:32 <BabyBug> I immediately miss the stability
01:32 <ct|kyle> auto snapping on windows
01:32 <ct|kyle> tinyXP :P
01:33 <ct|kyle> normal XP did not work on the machine
01:33 <Lucifer> I miss the window snapping pretty quickly, too
01:34 <Lucifer> especially on a larger screen, where I might want multiple windows in view
01:34 <BabyBug> window snapping?
01:34 <ct|kyle> i really don't miss multiple desktops right away because i know it is missing
01:34 <Lucifer> window borders snapping to one another
01:34 <Lucifer> and the eddge, and the panell, etc
01:34 <BabyBug> what do you mean by snapping?
01:34 <BabyBug> i thought snap was like split it two? :s
01:34 <ct|kyle> locking next to one another
01:35 <Lucifer> like, when you resize a window, as you approach the edge of the screen, the border will jump to the edge itself
01:35 <ct|kyle> ya
01:35 <BabyBug> oh ok, who called that snapping, silly people
01:35 <ct|kyle> obviously not BabyBug :P
01:35 <BabyBug> i mean you snap things in two...Snap things together just doesn't make sense, hehe
01:36 <ct|kyle> heh
01:36 <ct|kyle> you snap lego's together
01:36 <BabyBug> no, you clip them together
01:37 <Lucifer> it's often called docking
01:37 <ct|kyle> you snap your coat buttons together
01:37 <Lucifer> and it's called snapping in graphics programs, CAD, audio editors, etc
01:37 <BabyBug> i thought docking was a gay sex move? :s
01:38 <ct|kyle> i still don't get why they call huge popup dialogs tooltips even if they are not on a toolbar
01:39 <madmax> #m durka that's just wrong, leaving without playing >1 match :-P
01:39 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
01:40 <BabyBug> madmax!!!
01:41 <ct|kyle> I think i miss the whole enter face in XP when i use it, I don't like the display in XP
01:41 <madmax> BabyBug!!
01:42 <BabyBug> I love you madmax!!!
01:42 <madmax> :o
01:42 <madmax> no way!
01:42 <BabyBug> yeh wai!
01:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you better chop madmax into little pieces now
01:45 <BabyBug> I was just lying about that to try and make you feel better ct|kyle
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01:46 <ct|kyle> :(
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02:29 <Paralyzed> ivantis
02:37 <Paralyzed> .si CTF S
02:37 <tronner> Paralyzed: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (0/10):
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04:25 <StickyNoob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkUuNf_r-G4 i think we are being trolled
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06:26 <TaZ> hi pplz
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06:27 <Paralyzed> hey anyone there?
06:27 <TaZ> yea
06:27 <BabyBug> hiya
06:27 <TaZ> sup?
06:28 <Paralyzed> u guys wanna check out my custom map resource?
06:28 <TaZ> ehhh
06:28 <TaZ> I think babybug wants to
06:28 <Paralyzed> lol do you know what that is?
06:28 <Paralyzed> here take a look
06:28 <TaZ> yes
06:28 <Paralyzed> http://tron-hq.net/resource
06:28 <Paralyzed> its all custom ;D
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06:29 <TaZ> hey there
06:30 <TaZ> cool paralyzed
06:30 <Paralyzed> thanks ;]
06:30 <Paralyzed> if u ever need a map upload contact me lol
06:31 <Paralyzed> since arma's resource is currently down
06:31 <TaZ> alright, thx man
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06:42 <TaZ> anyone still here?
06:43 <baddog> yo
06:44 <TaZ> hey
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14:04 <esega> hi all
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14:24 <ivantis> #tell later Paralyzed hey, its ivantis. for the map you showed me, use the setting MAP_FILE Paralyzed/paintball/ctf/paintballctf-1-1.aamap.xml(http://lolnoobs.freehostia.com/pp1.xml)
14:24 <armabot> ivantis: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling.
14:24 <ivantis> ??
14:24 <ivantis> #list tell
14:24 <armabot> ivantis: Error: 'tell' is not a valid plugin.
14:24 <ivantis> #help tell
14:24 <armabot> ivantis: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
14:25 <ivantis> #telllater
14:25 <ivantis> #latertell
14:25 <ivantis> #help latertell
14:25 <armabot> ivantis: Error: There is no command "latertell".
14:25 <ivantis> #list later
14:25 <DStar_> #tell ivantis to shut the hell up
14:25 <armabot> ivantis: notes and tell
14:25 <ivantis> #later tell later Paralyzed hey, its ivantis. for the map you showed me, use the setting MAP_FILE Paralyzed/paintball/ctf/paintballctf-1-1.aamap.xml(http://lolnoobs.freehostia.com/pp1.xml)
14:25 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:26 <ivantis> …
14:26 <ivantis> #later tell Paralyzed hey, its ivantis. for the map you showed me, use the setting MAP_FILE Paralyzed/paintball/ctf/paintballctf-1-1.aamap.xml(http://lolnoobs.freehostia.com/pp1.xml)
14:26 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:27 <ivantis> #later tell Paralyzed that should do it. also, you probably shouldnt have a hyphen in your map name, that should just come with the version
14:27 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:27 <ivantis> <armabot> DStar_ wants me to tell you: to shut the hell up
14:27 <ivantis> ha,
14:27 <ivantis> you are quite funny
14:27 <DStar_> xD
14:28 <ivantis> perlbot, tell me youre sorry
14:28 <ivantis> perlbot2, tell me youre sorry
14:28 <perlbot2> me: youre sorry, :P.
14:28 <DStar_> hahaha :D
14:28 <ivantis> its like a little kid
14:28 <ivantis> being difficult
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15:23 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *kyle* upgraded my router's firmware, lost its port forward settings and forgot to add port 4533… fixed, thanks for telling me
15:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
15:35 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy master is fixed
15:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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17:55 <esega> hi ppl
17:55 <esega> anyone here? :)
17:56 <ct|kyle> hello
17:56 <esega> hello
17:56 <esega> sup?
17:57 <epsy> hi
17:57 <BabyBug> Hellooo
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18:00 <ct|kyle> must have been new to IRC^^
18:00  * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle 
18:01 <ct|kyle> i know your just trying to make me feel good before you dice me :P
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18:02 <esega> hi again. i'm using IE so... :)
18:02 <epsy> anyways, what brings you here? :)
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18:03 <esega> trying to make my own server... noob13 point me here. i'm noob as u may know but i'm trying :)
18:04 <esega> i need some help and advice cuz im on windows
18:04 <ct|kyle> get linux :P
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18:04 <epsy> yeah?
18:05 <esega> :) im stuck with autoexec.cfg
18:05 <epsy> luke-jr, ping
18:05 <esega> map files acctually
18:05 <epsy> esega, you should use settings_dedicated.cfg
18:05 <epsy> then, what is the problem with map files?
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18:07 <esega> do i simply paste link in autoexec or?
18:07 <epsy> well, let's start from the beginning
18:07 <esega> yes tx :)
18:07 <epsy> arma gets all it's files from what we call "resources"
18:07 <esega> i have installed dedicated for win
18:08 <epsy> resources can be maps, cockpits(ie. HUDs), config files, textures, etc
18:09 <epsy> resources are set in resource repositories, and that's in a resource repository arma will look for it's resources
18:09 <epsy> so, in the case of a map, we have two settings
18:09 <epsy> 1/ the address of the resource repository: RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT
18:09 <epsy> and
18:10 <epsy> 2/ the path to the map starting from RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT: MAP_FILE
18:10 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 MAP_FIL
18:10 <tronner> ct|kyle: MAP_FILE: File that contains the map used for playing || MAP_FILE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when MAP_FILE differs from its default?
18:10 <epsy> it has a specific nameing sheme, see at the wiki for details
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18:11 <epsy> so, let's say you are putting up a server with a map that is hosted at the official repositories
18:11 <ct|kyle> epsy: how did you get that ping to work :P
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18:11 <epsy> first, you don't need to change RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT, as it already defaults to the official repository
18:12 <epsy> second, use MAP_FILE epsy/something/that-0.1.aamap.xml
18:12 <epsy> with the appropriate path, of course
18:12 <Monkey_arma> epsy puuqui and quite a few others can not access the tst site with internet explorer. They asked me to help so i said i would tell you.
18:12 <epsy> esega, are you hosting your map at the official repositories?
18:13 <epsy> Monkey_arma, I have no clue why it happens, they should use IE7 or another browser. IE6 is 7 years old, and IE7 fixes most of the problems anyhow
18:14 <esega> hmm... i'm at absolute begining. i have just created autoexec.cfg and put some basic settings in it. i did not yet created my own map but i will...
18:15 <wrtlprnft> “most of the problems” ← really optimistic
18:15 <epsy> wrtlprnft, blank page to something weird, sounds to me like "most" :)
18:15 <esega> i was wondering if i can use some finished maps from resources to get started with something
18:16 <wrtlprnft> proper XHTML still gives you a download dialog
18:16 <epsy> esega, so you want to first create a map?
18:16 <epsy> esega, right
18:16 <epsy> esega, look here <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/>
18:17 <esega> i first want to understand how that all works. then create map and upload it to be visible to eweryone
18:17 <epsy> you my notice some really awesome maps under the "epsy" directory :o)
18:17 <wrtlprnft> esega: sure. At least with my maps and those from ed you won't get any problems if you modify them. Dunno about the copyright of the other authors
18:19 <wrtlprnft> actually epsy/ houses more awsome maps than when i last checked :o
18:19 <esega> ok. can u tell me what I need to do to get my server visible to all players (not custom connect)
18:19 <epsy> Monkey_arma, problem is, that i have absolutely nothin g to test it with, using IE6
18:19 <epsy> esega, TALK_TO_MASTER 1
18:20 <epsy> esega, did you read the server setup & administration guide?
18:20 <esega> upload settings somewhere?
18:20 <esega> and where?
18:20 <epsy> @aawikis server administration guide
18:20 <esega> i don't have my own hosting
18:20 <epsy> TALK_TO_MASTER 1 should be put in the config
18:20 <esega> autoexec.bat?
18:21 <esega> *cfg
18:21 <epsy> settings_dedicated.cfg
18:21 <esega> oh
18:21 <epsy> move autoexec.cfg to settings_dedicated.cfg
18:21 <wrtlprnft> and don't forget to forward port 4534 in your router's configuration
18:21 <epsy> support for autoexec.cfg for the server may be dropped, while settings_dedicated.cfg is here for good
18:22 <wrtlprnft> (which reminds me: is UPnP feasible to implement?)
18:22 <epsy> wrtlprnft, http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/
18:22 <epsy> there's no awesome maps yet, trough :)
18:22 <esega> np i just want to c if it's working
18:23 <epsy> esega, look here <http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/>
18:23 <wrtlprnft> epsy: so you can upload to that place using your gID?
18:23 <epsy> wrtlprnft, not yet
18:23 <epsy> on the todo list
18:24 <wrtlprnft> i just figured it'd make sense if you had maps with author="epsy@x"…
18:24 <epsy> yeah, first versions were flawed, i didn't edit resources for ages then
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18:25 <ct|kyle> oi wrtlprnft
18:25 <epsy> i should be putting it up once i get xclan.armagetron.co.uk moved at home
18:26 <esega> ok i have found some map... do I just copy this line into settings_dedicated (MAP_FILE Aang/rubber/room-1.1.aamap.xml)
18:26 <epsy> yes
18:27 <wrtlprnft> hi
18:27 <esega> ok... i put it on the bottom is that ok?
18:28 <epsy> yeah, arma doesn't distungish various sections in configuration files
18:28 <esega> settings like rubber, speed.... are also in that file?
18:28 <epsy> exactly
18:28 <epsy> erm
18:29 <epsy> it's settings_custom.cfg
18:29 <epsy> not _dedicated, sorry
18:29 <esega> ok
18:29 <epsy> settings_dedicated.cfg is the example config, sorry
18:29 <epsy> feel free to start off with a copy of it
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18:30 <esega> hm i can't find settings_custom.cfg should i create it?
18:30 <epsy> yes, you should
18:30 <esega> :)
18:31 <epsy> settings_dedicated will be overwritten if you reinstall arma
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18:33 <esega> ok. i think i get it for now :) just 1more thing. where can i upload my settings and which files do i need to upload?
18:34 <epsy> well, where do you want to upload them?
18:35 <esega> what choices do i have?
18:36 <epsy> what do you want to do?
18:37 <esega> i want that my server is available in "connect to internet" so that anyone ca access
18:37 <esega> *can
18:38 <epsy> for that, you still need to run the server from home(or from wherever you own a machine)
18:39 <epsy> you just need to tell the server, as said in the server administration guide, that it should tell the master servers(those that deliver the "connect to internet" list) that it exists
18:39 <epsy> this can be done with this setting: TALK_TO_MASTER 1
18:39 <esega> so i can upload it enywhere on the web or what?
18:40 <epsy> you don't need to publish your settings anywhere
18:40 <esega> but if i'm offline the server is offline too?
18:41 <epsy> yes, the server cannot run on a machine that's shut down :)
18:41 <esega> hehe yes... tht is my problem... i want that the server is available 24/7
18:41 <esega> :)
18:42 <esega> like YS or any other
18:42 <epsy> then let your own machine running 24/7
18:42 <epsy> or pay/find someone to host a machine 24/7 for you
18:42 <esega> any other options?
18:42 <esega> ok
18:42 <luke-jr_> esega: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
18:43 <esega> ty very much :)
18:43 <ct|kyle> or http://flynnsarcade.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=37
18:43 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: shhh
18:45 <ct|kyle> but luke-jr_'s is the more stable
18:45 <esega> ty i need european servers... i will find somethig tx for your help
18:46 <luke-jr_> esega: I do Europe
18:46  * epsy europes too
18:46 <wrtlprnft> lol
18:46 <esega> for free? :) i don't want to pay if noone will using it except me :)
18:47 <esega> little try-out for free
18:47 <luke-jr_> esega: I have a demo server.
18:47 <luke-jr_> it resets every 12 hours
18:47 <esega> europe?
18:47 <luke-jr_> yes
18:47 <luke-jr_> one of each US and Europe
18:47 <ct|kyle> .si demo
18:47 <tronner> ct|kyle: Lightfoot Hosting Demo Server (UK): Players (0/4):
18:47 <esega> laggy?
18:47 <luke-jr_> esega: not laggy
18:48 <esega> great... how long can i host there?
18:48 <ct|kyle> luke-jr_: what can't i connect to http://beta.armagetronad.net/
18:48 <luke-jr_> 12 hours each
18:48 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: ?
18:48 <ct|kyle> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4009ms
18:49 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: try IPv6
18:49 <esega> and after that 12hrs... can i reconnect or i need to pay for it?
18:49 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: to 2002:62ac:88c5:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31 ?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> you just need to enter your settings again
18:49 <luke-jr_> esega: reconfigure
18:50 <luke-jr_> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/demo.php
18:50 <wrtlprnft> (with resource config files and instant chats that's insanely easy, though)
18:50 <esega> ok... where can i get to u when i finish my setup and decide to publish my settings?
18:50 <luke-jr_> esega: the main page has my email
18:51 <luke-jr_> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/
18:51  * wrtlprnft ponders writing a bot that automatically connects to the demo server every time it resets and changes the configuration back
18:52 <esega> ok luke.tx. bb guys and thx for help again :) cu
18:53 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: beta.aa.net is v6-only until later this evening unless you do some DNS bypassing and connect to nat.router.dashjr.org temporarily
18:53 <luke-jr_> (the latter will stop working when the normal route comes back tho)
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18:53 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: how would this bot respect the ToS?
18:54 <luke-jr_> otherwise, such a bot would be trivial
18:54 <wrtlprnft> the php library for that is already on svn
18:54 <luke-jr_> just use SSH to monitor the status, and when it resets, SCP configs over and include them
18:54 <wrtlprnft> ok, that's even more boring
18:55 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr_, i just wondered why i could not connect
18:56  * epsy imagines a bot going in a server, saying "Hi! Fuck you all I'm changing the settings!" and changing the settings
18:57 <luke-jr_> there's a PHP library that concedes control to legit evaluators?
18:57 <luke-jr_> ssh demo@levopede-uk.dashjr.org | while read line; do if [ "$line" == '[0] Resetting server! or something' ]; then scp config/* demo@levopede-uk.dashjr.org:svc/aa/var/; ssh demo@levopede-uk.dashjr.org <<< include all.cfg; fi; done
18:57 <luke-jr_> ct|kyle: because Cox hasn't moved service to my new appt yet
18:57 <luke-jr_> and until then, only my router is online over WiFi
18:57 <luke-jr_> alternately, you could buy me a new router with proper VLAN support
18:57 <luke-jr_> epsy: why go in the server? SSH works
18:57 <wrtlprnft> no, a php lib that can connect to any arma servers and dump chat
18:57 <luke-jr_> my point is that you don't need it to go in teh arma server
18:58 <luke-jr_> ssh demo@levopede-uk.dashjr.org
18:58 <luke-jr_> pass: demo
19:01 <Monkey_arma> ignore
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19:45 <luke-jr_> hey
19:45 <epsy> Hi!
19:45 <luke-jr_> I have an idea!
19:45 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:62ac:88c5:0:1d:0:0:7034] has joined #armagetron
19:45 <BabyBug> another bot? =P
19:45 <luke-jr_> until Thanksgiving Day, get your first two months of hosting for the price of one! :þ
19:46 <luke-jr_> offer code uh…
19:46 <luke-jr_> 87348322 :d
19:46 <luke-jr_> or smth like that
19:46 <luke-jr_> or maybe I should phrase it differently
19:47 <luke-jr_> first month free *when you prepay the second month up front
19:47 <luke-jr_> <.<
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20:02 <sunny___> someone here?
20:03  * epsy runs away
20:03 <sunny___> oO
20:03 <sunny___> im a nice girl
20:03 <epsy> :D
20:03 <epsy> Hi!
20:03 <sunny___> :)
20:03  * luke-jr_ throws a shoe at sunny___.
20:03 <sunny___> ah
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20:03 <sunny___> why u all are bad to me?
20:04 <luke-jr_> that's not bad!
20:04  * BabyBug cuddles sunny___ 
20:04  * wrtlprnft is there now
20:04 <luke-jr_> it's affectionate!
20:04 <epsy> well, luke's shoe didn't land very far away from him :þ
20:04  * hoax is alergic to mass underscores :'(
20:04 <sunny___> i hav a question :X
20:04 <epsy> sunny```
20:04 <sunny___> who did the bugfarm sumo server?
20:05 <epsy> z-man-work, zmanuel: ping
20:05 <sunny___> hm
20:06 <sunny___> zman? zman? ZMAN?
20:06 <sunny___> :>
20:06 <luke-jr_> z-man-work: hide
20:07 <luke-jr_> sunny___: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org :D
20:07 <sunny___> ... what do u want to say me? :P
20:08 <luke-jr_> PINK!
20:08 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: how's buisness going, anyways?
20:08 <wrtlprnft> does it pay for the server?
20:08 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: barely
20:08 <wrtlprnft> well, then you have a free server
20:09 <luke-jr_> pfft
20:09 <luke-jr_> I spend a lot of time on it, that's not free.
20:09 <luke-jr_> and I only host Arma on it
20:09 <luke-jr_> s/it/them
20:09 <luke-jr_> Texas, Connecticut, and London
20:09 <luke-jr_> :þ
20:10 <sunny___> but i will the bugfarm server back :(
20:10 <luke-jr_> sunny___: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org ☺
20:10 <epsy> i remember having made some work about it in php
20:10 <zmanuel> I'm usually just too lazy to restart them after the PC gets rebooted :)
20:10 <epsy> but i'm not sure if it's in my backup
20:10 <luke-jr_> epsy: ?
20:11 <epsy> luke-jr_, making a clone of zmanuel's bugfarm tournaments
20:11 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: init scripts?
20:12 <zmanuel> eek, no, they're ugly bash scripts
20:12 <luke-jr_> …
20:12 <wrtlprnft> then, err, write an init c++ program
20:12 <zmanuel> where I have everytime.cfg as a pipe
20:12 <luke-jr_> I have a service layer that controls all the servers I host. :þ
20:12 <luke-jr_> it's BASH and Perl
20:12 <zmanuel> GOOD FOR YOU THEN
20:12 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that should actually works
20:13 <wrtlprnft> *work
20:13 <wrtlprnft> init c++ programs, i mean
20:13 <epsy> haha
20:14 <wrtlprnft> g++ my_init_prog.cpp -o /etc/init.5.d/S99bugfarm
20:14 <wrtlprnft> except for the fact that /etc should only contain plaintext, but who cares?
20:14 <epsy> not sure if it has to
20:15  * epsy has binary config files inside /etc
20:15 <wrtlprnft> or is it rc.5.d? haven't used a non-gentoo distro for a while
20:15  * sunny___ understands bahnhof xD
20:15 <epsy> but the placement of init scripts sound a bit akward to me
20:16 <wrtlprnft> dunno, gentoo handles it differently
20:16 <epsy> well, the init scripts still live in /etc
20:16 <epsy> as with almost any distro
20:16 <wrtlprnft> 3.7. /etc : Host-specific system configuration
20:16 <wrtlprnft> 3.7.1. Purpose
20:16 <wrtlprnft> The /etc hierarchy contains configuration files. A "configuration file" is a local file used to control the operation
20:16 <wrtlprnft> of a program; it must be static and cannot be an executable binary. 4
20:16 <wrtlprnft> from the fhs standard
20:16 <epsy> a subdir of /sbin would be more appropriate IMHO
20:17 <epsy> what is a "static" file?
20:17 <G5> z-man-work: As I understand you made the elimation sumo server. Does it require Armahacktron? Are the setting publicly available somewhere?
20:17 <wrtlprnft> well, /var/log/messages isn't, for example
20:18 <wrtlprnft> something that only changes by administrator action i guess
20:18 <wrtlprnft> G5: no, it doesn't, that's its whole point
20:18 <epsy> so..something that's not edited by users themselves(read: without sudo)
20:18 <wrtlprnft> but it needs a script to run in the background and mess with settings
20:19 <wrtlprnft> and daemons
20:19 <epsy> G5, zmanuel is probably not an armahacktron fan :)
20:19 <wrtlprnft> basically you could mount the file system read only and nothing bad would happen
20:19 <epsy> until you try to edit your config :)
20:20 <epsy> but well, binary config files doesn't seem to be forbidden while init scripts seem to ne
20:20 <epsy> be
20:20 <wrtlprnft> epsy: why? I mean, it's hacky and not clean, but it's a great testing ground?
20:20 <G5> k, thx
20:21 <epsy> yeah, I'm just saying everybody is wrong and init scripts/programs should never reside in /etc
20:21 <epsy> :)
20:21 <wrtlprnft> i get your point
20:22 <wrtlprnft> hmm, maybe the actual scripts shouldn't be in /etc, i think the symlinks in /etc/rc.* are configuration
20:22 <wrtlprnft> so they should still be in /etc
20:22 <sunny___> i not, i dont get ur point and i wont :P i will the server :D
20:23 <wrtlprnft> hmm
20:23 <epsy> wrtlprnft, yeah, inittab stuff still belongs there
20:23 <wrtlprnft> init brainfuck scripts
20:23 <epsy> but the actualy init scripts have nothing to do there I have to say
20:23 <wrtlprnft> no, i also mean the traditional S42<service> links
20:24 <wrtlprnft> but the actual scripts should be somewhere else
20:24 <epsy> s/actualy/actual/
20:45 <P4> 17Nov08 154155 gmt+1 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy master is fixed ← is it? which one, master1?
20:48 <epsy> master3
20:48 <P4> still first 2 are timing out
20:49 <P4> maybe you can change the order of the servers so the last one will timing out? :þ
20:49 <epsy> that's Lucifer's and zmanuel's
20:49 <epsy> it's random
20:49 <epsy> except for the server
20:49 <P4> when is it randomizing?
20:49 <epsy> when the client chooses which master to fetch the list from
20:50 <P4> i changed my hosts so all masters poitns to number 4 because of very long server restarts
20:50 <epsy> erm
20:50 <P4> i'm talking about the server side
20:50 <epsy> there is a masters.srv file, which contains a list of servers to contact
20:50 <P4> is it?
20:51 <epsy> well, it's not a recipe for yoghurt, if you ask me
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21:53 <TaZ> hey
21:53 <TaZ> Anyone here?
21:57 <BabyBug> Hi
21:58 <ct|kyle> oi
21:58  * BabyBug pokes ct|kyle in the belly button
21:58 <ct|kyle> ouch
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22:10 <wrtlprnft> P4: master1 and master2 aren't under my control
22:11 <P4> yes, what a pity :þ
22:11 <wrtlprnft> P4: and only guru3 can change the IPs master?.armagetronad.net point to
22:11 <wrtlprnft> m1 should be zmanuel's, I think
22:11 <guru3> eh?
22:12 <wrtlprnft> and m2 is Lucifer's… and points to
22:12 <wrtlprnft> err,
22:12 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i hope that's still correct
22:12 <guru3> but 345 work
22:12 <P4> yes wotk
22:12 <wrtlprnft> but what about the other two?
22:13 <guru3> no they don't
22:13 <guru3> but i don't have 2 other systems to put unique masters on
22:13 <wrtlprnft> the bus factor is quite low if the only two working masters are hosted by you and me
22:13 <P4> work, but the armaservers are registering their public existence starting by 1, 2, timing out and making the process of restarting the server 20 seconds long
22:13 <guru3> so it's sort of pointless to change the ips
22:13 <guru3> if it still works
22:13 <P4> if my english is understandable :þ
22:13 <guru3> we keep the bust factor up
22:13 <guru3> *bus
22:13 <guru3> even if they are down
22:14 <wrtlprnft> can't we get other people to host masters?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> like CT or some other bunch with a lot of servers
22:14 <guru3> do YOU know anyone reliable enough to?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> it's not like they generate a lot of traffic
22:14 <guru3> and with the technical know how
22:14 <wrtlprnft> well, an unreliable server is better than no server…
22:14 <guru3> i only have a 1.2GB logfile
22:15 <guru3> yes but i dont want to have to do tech support on master servers
22:15 <wrtlprnft> mine's 1.9GB
22:15 <wrtlprnft> maybe I should prune that
22:15 <guru3> i should probably too ><
22:15 <guru3> and i suppose i could host a master here
22:15 <wrtlprnft> thanks for reminding me
22:15 <guru3> even if the connection is a bit unreliable
22:15 <guru3> and replace master 1 or something
22:16 <wrtlprnft> or just point masters 1 and 2 to 3 and 4 for now
22:16 <wrtlprnft> not perfect, but better than timing out
22:17 <guru3> hmm
22:17 <guru3> the problem is if i die
22:17 <guru3> no one can change them back
22:18 <ct|kyle> how much monthly bandwidth?
22:18 <guru3> i don't know
22:18 <guru3> but pretty much near constant connectios
22:18 <guru3> 1/second or so
22:20 <ct|kyle> .calc 60*60*24*30
22:20 <tronner> ct|kyle: 2592000
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22:20 <ct|kyle> 1 what per second
22:21 <guru3> connection
22:22 <wrtlprnft> not noticable for me
22:23  * wrtlprnft just set up log rotation for armagetronad-master
22:23 <wrtlprnft> now at least the 1.9 GB will be bzzipped
22:23 <guru3> that should shrink it a bit
22:24 <ct|kyle> i'm sure we probably could host one if bandwidth is not bad, I would just want to make sure it is ok with sol first
22:24 <wrtlprnft> and i can just delete it if i don't want it without risking an e-mail a couple of hours later that my server xml is stone age again
22:24 <ct|kyle> dinosaurs :P
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22:25 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/nobandwidthatall.png
22:25 <wrtlprnft> the spike near the right is me playing arma on a regular client
22:26 <wrtlprnft> everything from 18:00 on is regular background traffic by my laptop (browsing, e-mail, rss, etc)
22:26 <guru3> what's the config line
22:26 <guru3> --enable-master?
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22:26 <wrtlprnft> and --disable-glout
22:26 <guru3> and anything for var that's special?
22:27 <ct|kyle> any special branch?
22:27 <wrtlprnft> dunno what the gui master server does, but i don't know who needs one
22:27 <wrtlprnft> no
22:27 <wrtlprnft> any recent source will do
22:27 <wrtlprnft> guru3: ?
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22:27 <wrtlprnft> between 10 and 14 is basically the traffic my master + irc + serverxml generates
22:28 <wrtlprnft> and at the beginning, that's bittorrent
22:28 <wrtlprnft> so it's next to no traffic
22:28 <wrtlprnft> compared to what an actual server would need
22:28 <epsy> the servelxml only takes that much processing?
22:28 <guru3> like .cfg files
22:28 <epsy> oh..that's just network output
22:28 <wrtlprnft> guru3: no
22:28 <wrtlprnft> nothing
22:28 <epsy> & input
22:28 <guru3> didn't think so
22:29 <wrtlprnft> blue is rx, orange is tx
22:29 <wrtlprnft> should have mentioned that
22:29 <guru3> this is weird
22:29 <guru3> the comple is failing
22:29 <guru3> *compile
22:29 <guru3> of
22:29 <epsy> gcc4?
22:30 <guru3> that's wha ti thoguht at first
22:30 <guru3> but it's failing with 3.3.6 too
22:30 <wrtlprnft> sec
22:30 <epsy> perhaps try luke's, it worked for me
22:30 <guru3> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/locale_facets.h: In constructor 'std::numpunct_byname<_CharT>::numpunct_byname(const char*, size_t)':
22:30 <luke-jr_> yeah, that should work up to GCC 4.3
22:30 <guru3> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/locale_facets.h:696: error: there are no arguments to '_S_create_c_locale' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of '_S_create_c_locale' must be available
22:31 <guru3> no idea why it's doing that
22:31 <wrtlprnft> err, what source line is it quoting?
22:31 <guru3> tron/gFloor.cpp:31:
22:32 <DStar_> guru3: did you try gcc4?
22:32 <guru3> i tried ti first
22:32 <guru3> same pile of errors
22:32 <guru3> about 500 lines of it
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8 current bzr works for me
22:34 <guru3> hmm
22:34 <guru3> disabled distcc
22:34 <guru3> and it's working
22:34 <wrtlprnft> haven't tried building an actual release in ages
22:34 <guru3> that's never been a problem before
22:34 <DStar_> that and the fact that i have no two machines of the same arch are the reason why i don't do distcc
22:46 <ivantis> #seen Paralyzed
22:46 <armabot> ivantis: Paralyzed was last seen in #armagetron 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Paralyzed> since arma's resource is currently down
22:46 <ivantis> its down?
22:46 <ivantis> glad i host my own resources
22:46 <guru3> once the dns shuffles there should be 4 unqiue masters again
22:46 <ivantis> the master servers DNS are down too?
22:47 <guru3> no
22:47 <guru3> but it does have a TTL
22:47 <ivantis> i hate dns rules. why can a tld not be a CNAME?
22:47 <guru3> the dns already got pushed through for someone
22:47 <guru3> the new master 3 has had a connection
22:48 <guru3> just need master 4 to get one and all shall be well
22:49 <ivantis> oh, you remember when i said there was a bug about the armagetron screen going through other windows?
22:49 <ivantis> i got some shots
22:50 <ivantis> http://space-lab.us/stuff/armatrails1.png and http://space-lab.us/stuff/armatrails2.png
22:50 <guru3> right all it needs is time now
22:50 <ivantis> i took those a while ago
22:51 <guru3> that'd be an awesome feature actually
22:51 <guru3> to just see the walls on top of your regular desktop
22:52 <ivantis> kind of like the fire screensaver, where it burns your windows?
22:52 <guru3> yeah
22:53 <ivantis> i had a good idea for a screensaver: after you leave your screen for a time, a little demon goes around and presses the X on all your windows and closes them
22:53 <ivantis> but when you move the mouse they come back
22:54 <guru3> anywho afk
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--- Log opened Mon Nov 17 23:03:19 2008
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23:03 <epsy> the holes?
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23:03 <ivantis> try the blast program
23:03 <epsy> @g blast
23:04 <epsy> it left @ quakenet already >.<
23:04 <epsy> third time today
23:04 <epsy> i fucking love python
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23:05 <epsy> ok uhm, can you tell me what blast is?
23:06 <ivantis> http://space-lab.us/stuff/blast.png
23:06 <ivantis> its a program
23:06 <ivantis> you click on windows and it blasts holes in them
23:06 <epsy> ...O THX I GUESSED SO
23:06 <epsy> O_o
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23:09 <wrtlprnft> hey!
23:09 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:2c87] has quit ["goodbye!"]
23:09 <wrtlprnft> don't blast away my join message!
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23:09  * wrtlprnft used to play aroud with blast while he was using debian, but gentoo doesn't have a blast ebuild :-(
23:09 <teabot> Hi!
23:09 <epsy> & of course it takes ages to do anything, ogddamn python
23:10 <ivantis> python?
23:10 <ivantis> bleah
23:10 <ivantis> i dont believe in languages that dont use ;s at the end of lines
23:10 <epsy> ; or anything else
23:10 <ivantis> htf do you write a py-one liner?
23:10 <epsy> s/lines/instructions/
23:11 <epsy> & of course teabot chooses to start working again right before I say it does not work just to decredibilize me
23:11 <epsy> :S
23:13 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: you can use ; in python
23:13 <ivantis> you can?
23:13 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:13 <epsy> YES WE CAN
23:13 <wrtlprnft> but it's frowned upon
23:13 <wrtlprnft> python people are too cool for ;
23:13 <wrtlprnft> but they LOVE :
23:13 <ivantis> example
23:14 <ivantis> give me a one liner
23:14 <epsy> : as in a? b:c?
23:14 <wrtlprnft> no
23:14 <epsy> if used correctly, these are great
23:14 <wrtlprnft> as in while foo:
23:14 <epsy> oh
23:14 <epsy> yeah
23:14 <epsy> :s
23:14 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: print('hello world')
23:15 <epsy> now..it gets obscure
23:15 <wrtlprnft> or, alternatively print('hello'); print('world')
23:15 <epsy> where's the space gone?
23:16 <wrtlprnft> it's mutated
23:16 <ivantis> #sd paralyzed
23:16 <armabot> ivantis: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “paralyzed” at the moment, sorry.
23:16 <ivantis> what is paralyzed's server?
23:16 <wrtlprnft> lost 22
23:16 <wrtlprnft> ie became a newline
23:17 <epsy> does it have automatic spell check, while we're at it?
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