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13:06 <ivantis> wtf?
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13:25 <Mixnetwork> someone here?
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14:39 <ivantis> me was here
14:39 <ivantis> was
14:39 <ivantis> but im now gone
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15:42 <madmax> weekend \o/
15:44 <K-Yo> madmax, I work tomorrow morning :'(
15:45 <madmax> :-/
15:45 <K-Yo> yep...
15:47 <epsy> me too :|
16:08 <madmax> BabyBug: n9?
16:10 <madmax> hm, nevermind
16:16 <BabyBug> ?
16:16  * BabyBug gives madmax a cuddle
16:16 <BabyBug> epsy, K-Yo, You get 150% pay for working on weekends though right?
16:17 <epsy> i do not get paid, I work at school :S
16:17 <epsy> :D
16:17 <epsy> *
16:17 <BabyBug> oh
16:17 <BabyBug> lol
16:17 <BabyBug> on weekends?!
16:17 <epsy> on satursday morning$
16:17 <BabyBug> that sucks
16:17 <BabyBug> =(
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16:43 <epsy> z-man-work: hi, have you ever thought about using a (super|mega|inter)project for armagetronad at launchpad? I would as well feel shy asking launchpad staff to put one up as AA is not that of a big project, but when you see, say, a ladderlog parser on it's own project, and that there are almost no linking from the armagetronad project to that project, I feel it's just stupid
16:44 <epsy> same would go if one put it on the armagetronad project along with the source branches of armagetronad itself, and heck, we are already doing that
16:45 <epsy> that led us to having strange(and long) branch nicks, which I feel bad
16:45 <z-man-work> Is that a special LP feature?
16:46 <epsy> I don't know, they have it, but you must ask a staffer to put one up
16:46 <z-man-work> Are projects free to join a superproject?
16:46 <epsy> yes, apparently
16:46 <epsy> an example would be https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project
16:46 <z-man-work> META
16:47 <epsy> meta projects, yes, that's the fourth way of calling it :)
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16:47 <z-man-work> Err, another meta level :) LP hosting itself.
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16:47 <z-man-work> RECURSION, actually.
16:47 <epsy> haha
16:48 <z-man-work> Anyway, it sounds like a good idea. Is there a list of uberprojects?
16:48 <epsy> launchpad uses it for both separating it's main components, and linking to aside projects
16:48 <z-man-work> Just so we can get an idea who else has one :)
16:48 <epsy> a list..hmm
16:48 <z-man-work> Or a way to search them
16:49 <epsy> the "Part of superproject" field in project profile should have one
16:50 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/armagetronad/+edit right after the <textarea>s
16:51 <K-Yo> BabyBug, same as epsy, I work at school...
16:51 <BabyBug> ><
16:51 <K-Yo> anyway, when it's not at school, it's at home
16:51 <K-Yo> :P
16:52 <z-man-work> Hmm, don't have my LP login here.
16:52 <epsy> i'll ask at #launchpad
16:58 <epsy> there seems to be one, but it is private, hehe
16:58 <epsy> well, as cited on the edit project page, here's the mozilla superproject
16:59 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/mozilla
17:10 <BabyBug> <3 epsy
17:10 <epsy> :o
17:15 <BabyBug> oh yeh, bug report, woops
17:16 <epsy> indeed, woops
17:34 <BabyBug> I saw the bug report you mentioned that monkey reported, tis similar.
17:34 <epsy> what bug is it?
17:35 <BabyBug> bug 298112
17:35 <teabot> Launchpad bug 298112 in armagetronad "arma segmentation fault when using the server browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298112
17:35 <epsy> i mean monkey's bug
17:35 <BabyBug> bug 246159
17:35 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246159
17:35 <epsy> ty
17:36 <BabyBug> Says the fix is available on it though :x
17:36 <BabyBug> all lies!
17:36 <epsy> what is your FTGL version?
17:36 <epsy> and also do you see weird characters in the server browser?
17:37 <BabyBug> no, no weird characters or any other problems like that
17:37 <epsy> where does it say this? [that the problem is fixed]
17:37 <BabyBug> libftgl-dev:
17:37 <BabyBug>   Installed: 2.1.3~rc5-2
17:37 <epsy> i see
17:37 <BabyBug> Related branches
17:37 <BabyBug>  ~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-armagetronad-work (Development) - Fix Available
17:38 <epsy> can you downgrade to FTGL 2.1.2 and report any changes?
17:39 <BabyBug> erm, i can try
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17:39 <epsy> also, i'll mark your report as duplicate, but i can't merge comments, can you repost it on the old bug?
17:39 <epsy> it being the recording
17:40 <BabyBug> kk
17:40 <epsy> BabyBug, « I do not see any Fix avaiabler as of...2 minutes ago? »
17:40 <epsy> *-t
17:40 <epsy> *-r **
17:41 <BabyBug> It just says on the bug report, with the attached branch, that the fix was available =\
17:41 <epsy> read: "I just edited it"
17:42 <BabyBug> oh
17:42 <BabyBug> lol
17:44 <epsy> in case it does reproduce with FTGL 2.1.2, i guess it is a separate bug
17:44 <epsy> but monkey didn't really tell if it reproduced with 2.1.2 or not
17:45 <epsy> also, thanks for your bug report, you've gone farer than pointing at a screenshot and saying "this is b0rked!"
17:46 <BabyBug> heh, you're welcome, but i can't get FTGL 2.1.2 to compile =\
17:46 <epsy> is it in the repositories still?
17:46 <BabyBug> newp
17:47 <epsy> z-man-work, Oh, and I forgot to ask, I'm not sure about our release naming sheme? Is it GIMP-style?
17:47 <BabyBug> it was taken out in...hardy i think
17:48 <epsy> BabyBug, hm, I don't have FTGL 2.1.3 here to test, I'll give it a look in the weekend or later on this evening
17:49 <BabyBug> kk, i'll continue trying anyway, nout better to do =P
17:49 <epsy> BabyBug, also, don't forget to subscribe to the other bug
17:49 <BabyBug> i'll post the vid on the other bug now
17:49 <BabyBug> kk
17:49 <epsy> armagetron debug recordings are _not_ videos
17:50 <epsy> they just record input(both 'keyboard' and network), and maybe output too
17:50  * BabyBug knows
17:51 <BabyBug> Oh, launchpad already subscribed me when you marked my bug as a dupe =)
17:51 <epsy> ah, neat :)
17:53 <BabyBug> Oh FTGL 2.1.2 won't compile because of my GCC version
17:53 <BabyBug> ><
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18:29 <z-man-work> epsy: you mean our versions? Starting from 0.3, they're Linux style. Old linux style.
18:29 <z-man-work> 0.odd.x are unstable testing releases
18:29 <z-man-work> 0.even.x stable releases
18:29 <epsy> yeah, so that's a yes :)
18:29 <z-man-work> I suppose so :)
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19:43 <BabyBug> .ctos
19:43 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): <H4x0R>, Dez, epsy¦×¦, Fry, hoop, MrAlph4, Recke, [HTF]B3NNY>(.)<, ¦×¦ Hoax
19:43 <ct|kyle> .rape the shelly cashman series
19:44  * ct|kyle believes jdk comes packed with Trojans
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19:54 <BabyBug> how do you pronounce wrtlprnft?
20:24 <epsy> you don't
20:31 <BabyBug> But you must =(
20:32 <KeY_3113> .ls crossc
20:32 <tronner> KeY_3113: CrossC has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 minutes ago.
20:32 <epsy> so he just been there to annoy me
20:32 <epsy> great
20:32 <KeY_3113> hehe
20:33 <epsy> BabyBug, how would you _need_ to pronounce it?
20:33 <epsy> BabyBug, I would spell it
20:34  * BabyBug says things he her head..and never knows how to pronounce it in her head =P
20:34 <epsy> :O
20:35 <ct|kyle> you pronounce it as W R T L :P
20:36 <epsy> P R N F T
20:36 <epsy> d'oh
20:36 <BabyBug> i tend to prounce it "were-tul-pur-funt"
20:36 <BabyBug> but i get the feeling that's not right...
20:37 <epsy> you should record that xD
20:38 <MrBougo> "hello, I am BabyBug and I pronounce wrtlprnft as wrtlprnft"
20:44  * BabyBug castrates MrBougo 
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20:45 <MrBougo> BabyBug, http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.ogg
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21:39 <BabyBug> That's how you should pronounce wrtlprnft! It's pronounced Pokemon!!
21:59 <BabyBug> Is the beta site down?
22:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: thats a question for o0 Luke-jr
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22:12 <epsy> i think having shift+esc pranks as default instant chat is.. just going to be abused and taken as example
22:13 <BabyBug> lol
22:13 <epsy> let's pursue the holing promotion
22:13 <BabyBug> holing promotion?
22:14 <epsy> z-man is a great holing supporter :)
22:14 <hoax> Only idiots miss holes.
22:14 <epsy> hoax, Exactly! :)
22:14 <hoax> Eated!
22:14 <BabyBug> ...
22:14 <epsy> Onoz! Onozed! Onozen!
22:15 <ct|kyle> epsy: i think 10 points is too much for a hole though
22:16 <epsy> that's 1/3 the reward for killing
22:16 <epsy> in fort it's half of it
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22:17 <ct|kyle> in fort is is 0% of a kill :P
22:17 <epsy> well if 1/2 gives 0 for you..
22:17 <BabyBug> lol
22:18 <ct|kyle> it is 0 points in ladle settings
22:19 <epsy> ok, are we playing ladle settings at
22:19 <epsy> @tea
22:19 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone: Players (8/32): .W33D, 1 player, DaJollyLlama, Monkey (Monkey@forums), SageLord, ~*OmegA*~ (omega@forums), ~*SP*~dæmon, ~|DS|~|Night|~
22:20 <epsy> no, we are not
22:20 <epsy> so what are fortress settings? settings that are barely used, or settings that are used everyday?
22:21 <MaZuffeR> and which sumo server uses score_hole everyday? :P
22:22 <ct|kyle> exactly what i was going to say
22:22 <epsy> none, but i'm not saying these will be "the" team sumo settings
22:22 <ct|kyle> .tst
22:22 <tronner> Crazy Tronners Team Sumo: Players (0/16):
22:22 <ct|kyle> .ctos
22:22 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (1/12): TrT~GöKu
22:23 <epsy> OK "Crazy Tronners Team Sumo" runs settings that have a 10 points reward for holing
22:23 <epsy> are you just here to nitpick or do you want to actually discuss??
22:24 <ct|kyle> actually i was pointing out more people in open sumo than TST
22:24 <ct|kyle> .
22:24 <MaZuffeR> i dont really give a damn, but score_hole is not a good idea in sumo for the reason Lackadaisical already explained
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22:24 <epsy> it was on ¦×¦TeamSumo for months and nobody complained
22:24 <ct|kyle> I'm fine with score hole i just think 10 points is too much
22:24 <epsy> no bo dy
22:25 <epsy> it was the most popular server for team sumo and even some more, yet nobody complained
22:25 <epsy> explanation?
22:26 <MaZuffeR> well, it's different when it's a competition, that's also why nobody complains about score_hole of cafe, but it's 0 in ladle settings
22:26 <ct|kyle> I just don't think if i made a hole and my partner used it is should receive that much just because someone used it.
22:27 <epsy> tell me, who is going to actually torp all the time and win the whole tst by just using your damn hole points?
22:28 <MaZuffeR> no one, but it might decide one match and therefore have a big impact on the results
22:29 <epsy> don't let your ennemies reach a point where they can safely torp
22:29 <epsy> plain and simple
22:29 <ct|kyle> 5 points i think would be a bit better
22:29 <epsy> if you don't want to be beaten, don't let your ennemies gain points
22:30 <MaZuffeR> yeah yeah, have it your way then, i won't play anyway
22:30 <ct|kyle> have more than 7 teams signed up yet?
22:30 <epsy> yes, it's sad to loose, especially if it was by ten holing points
22:30 <epsy> I would still have laughed, tho
22:32 <epsy> ct|kyle, 17 teams
22:32 <ct|kyle> so our message helped then
22:32 <epsy> 3 are not confirmed yet, though
22:35 <BabyBug> is it 64 teams or 64 players?
22:36 <epsy> 64 players
22:36 <epsy> it's written everywhere :P
22:37 <BabyBug> pssht
22:37 <BabyBug> I'm welsh not english... (That's my excuse and i'm sticking to it!)
22:37 <epsy> haha :D
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22:43 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r710 encourage holing, not noob-pranking...
22:43 <BabyBug> \o/
22:55 <ct|kyle> epsy: better add one to encourage ganking too
22:55 <epsy> ct|kyle, ganking barely applies to anything than fort itseld
22:57 <ct|kyle> epsy: if yo want SCORE_HOLE 10 them lets make EXPLOSION_RADIUS .001
22:58 <ct|kyle> .cfg Explosion_r
22:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: CYCLE_EXPLOSION_RADIUS: cycle_explosion_radius_help (default: 4) || EXPLOSION_RADIUS: Blast radius of the cycle explosions (default: 4) || SP_EXPLOSION_RADIUS: Blast radius of the cycle explosions in single player mode (default: 4)
22:58 <epsy> again, are you nitpicking or wanting to discuss?
22:58 <ct|kyle> are you sidetracking the discussion or wanting to discuss?
22:59 <epsy> I'm listening
22:59 <madmax> besides epsy who else wants score_hole?
23:00  * BabyBug sticks her hand up!
23:00 <ct|kyle> that makes 2, any other takers?
23:00 <madmax> I'm just saying this because most opinions on the forums seemed against it
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23:00 <BabyBug> What's the arguement against score_hole?
23:01 <ct|kyle> read the forums
23:01 <epsy> way to convince someone
23:01 <BabyBug> got a link? or at least which forum am i looking in?
23:02 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200303
23:02 <BabyBug> ty
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23:07  * BabyBug is still in favour of score_hole
23:08 <BabyBug> but i won't be playing so my opinion is pretty much worth nout =P
23:08 <ct|kyle> HEH my cities police sued the my City
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23:37 <BabyBug> \o/
23:39 <epsy> /o\
23:39 <BabyBug> -o-
23:40 <ivantis> OI#KLD
23:40  * ivantis is back!
23:40 <epsy> OI#KLD?
23:40 <ivantis> if your name was OI, i would be saying KLD to you
23:41 <ivantis> er
23:41 <epsy> great
23:41 <ivantis> translation: Hey, KLD!
23:41 <ivantis> but KLD is not here
23:41 <ivantis> wrong channel
23:41 <ivantis> and network
23:43 <epsy> great
23:43 <epsy> :|
23:45 -!- blueamy [n=AMYS@customers.shef2.opal.ask4.co.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:49 -!- DStar_ [n=dstar@84-73-19-117.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:56 -!- ct|kyle is now known as OI
23:56 -!- OI is now known as ct|kyle
23:58  * BabyBug pokes ct|kyle in da belly button
23:59  * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug in the leg

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