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13:06 <ivantis> wtf?
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13:25 <Mixnetwork> someone here?
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14:39 <ivantis> me was here
14:39 <ivantis> was
14:39 <ivantis> but im now gone
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15:42 <madmax> weekend \o/
15:44 <K-Yo> madmax, I work tomorrow morning :'(
15:45 <madmax> :-/
15:45 <K-Yo> yep...
15:47 <epsy> me too :|
16:08 <madmax> BabyBug: n9?
16:10 <madmax> hm, nevermind
16:16 <BabyBug> ?
16:16  * BabyBug gives madmax a cuddle
16:16 <BabyBug> epsy, K-Yo, You get 150% pay for working on weekends though right?
16:17 <epsy> i do not get paid, I work at school :S
16:17 <epsy> :D
16:17 <epsy> *
16:17 <BabyBug> oh
16:17 <BabyBug> lol
16:17 <BabyBug> on weekends?!
16:17 <epsy> on satursday morning$
16:17 <BabyBug> that sucks
16:17 <BabyBug> =(
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16:43 <epsy> z-man-work: hi, have you ever thought about using a (super|mega|inter)project for armagetronad at launchpad? I would as well feel shy asking launchpad staff to put one up as AA is not that of a big project, but when you see, say, a ladderlog parser on it's own project, and that there are almost no linking from the armagetronad project to that project, I feel it's just stupid
16:44 <epsy> same would go if one put it on the armagetronad project along with the source branches of armagetronad itself, and heck, we are already doing that
16:45 <epsy> that led us to having strange(and long) branch nicks, which I feel bad
16:45 <z-man-work> Is that a special LP feature?
16:46 <epsy> I don't know, they have it, but you must ask a staffer to put one up
16:46 <z-man-work> Are projects free to join a superproject?
16:46 <epsy> yes, apparently
16:46 <epsy> an example would be https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project
16:46 <z-man-work> META
16:47 <epsy> meta projects, yes, that's the fourth way of calling it :)
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16:47 <z-man-work> Err, another meta level :) LP hosting itself.
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16:47 <z-man-work> RECURSION, actually.
16:47 <epsy> haha
16:48 <z-man-work> Anyway, it sounds like a good idea. Is there a list of uberprojects?
16:48 <epsy> launchpad uses it for both separating it's main components, and linking to aside projects
16:48 <z-man-work> Just so we can get an idea who else has one :)
16:48 <epsy> a list..hmm
16:48 <z-man-work> Or a way to search them
16:49 <epsy> the "Part of superproject" field in project profile should have one
16:50 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/armagetronad/+edit right after the <textarea>s
16:51 <K-Yo> BabyBug, same as epsy, I work at school...
16:51 <BabyBug> ><
16:51 <K-Yo> anyway, when it's not at school, it's at home
16:51 <K-Yo> :P
16:52 <z-man-work> Hmm, don't have my LP login here.
16:52 <epsy> i'll ask at #launchpad
16:58 <epsy> there seems to be one, but it is private, hehe
16:58 <epsy> well, as cited on the edit project page, here's the mozilla superproject
16:59 <epsy> https://launchpad.net/mozilla
17:10 <BabyBug> <3 epsy
17:10 <epsy> :o
17:15 <BabyBug> oh yeh, bug report, woops
17:16 <epsy> indeed, woops
17:34 <BabyBug> I saw the bug report you mentioned that monkey reported, tis similar.
17:34 <epsy> what bug is it?
17:35 <BabyBug> bug 298112
17:35 <teabot> Launchpad bug 298112 in armagetronad "arma segmentation fault when using the server browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298112
17:35 <epsy> i mean monkey's bug
17:35 <BabyBug> bug 246159
17:35 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246159
17:35 <epsy> ty
17:36 <BabyBug> Says the fix is available on it though :x
17:36 <BabyBug> all lies!
17:36 <epsy> what is your FTGL version?
17:36 <epsy> and also do you see weird characters in the server browser?
17:37 <BabyBug> no, no weird characters or any other problems like that
17:37 <epsy> where does it say this? [that the problem is fixed]
17:37 <BabyBug> libftgl-dev:
17:37 <BabyBug>   Installed: 2.1.3~rc5-2
17:37 <epsy> i see
17:37 <BabyBug> Related branches
17:37 <BabyBug>  ~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-armagetronad-work (Development) - Fix Available
17:38 <epsy> can you downgrade to FTGL 2.1.2 and report any changes?
17:39 <BabyBug> erm, i can try
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17:39 <epsy> also, i'll mark your report as duplicate, but i can't merge comments, can you repost it on the old bug?
17:39 <epsy> it being the recording
17:40 <BabyBug> kk
17:40 <epsy> BabyBug, « I do not see any Fix avaiabler as of...2 minutes ago? »
17:40 <epsy> *-t
17:40 <epsy> *-r **
17:41 <BabyBug> It just says on the bug report, with the attached branch, that the fix was available =\
17:41 <epsy> read: "I just edited it"
17:42 <BabyBug> oh
17:42 <BabyBug> lol
17:44 <epsy> in case it does reproduce with FTGL 2.1.2, i guess it is a separate bug
17:44 <epsy> but monkey didn't really tell if it reproduced with 2.1.2 or not
17:45 <epsy> also, thanks for your bug report, you've gone farer than pointing at a screenshot and saying "this is b0rked!"
17:46 <BabyBug> heh, you're welcome, but i can't get FTGL 2.1.2 to compile =\
17:46 <epsy> is it in the repositories still?
17:46 <BabyBug> newp
17:47 <epsy> z-man-work, Oh, and I forgot to ask, I'm not sure about our release naming sheme? Is it GIMP-style?
17:47 <BabyBug> it was taken out in...hardy i think
17:48 <epsy> BabyBug, hm, I don't have FTGL 2.1.3 here to test, I'll give it a look in the weekend or later on this evening
17:49 <BabyBug> kk, i'll continue trying anyway, nout better to do =P
17:49 <epsy> BabyBug, also, don't forget to subscribe to the other bug
17:49 <BabyBug> i'll post the vid on the other bug now
17:49 <BabyBug> kk
17:49 <epsy> armagetron debug recordings are _not_ videos
17:50 <epsy> they just record input(both 'keyboard' and network), and maybe output too
17:50  * BabyBug knows
17:51 <BabyBug> Oh, launchpad already subscribed me when you marked my bug as a dupe =)
17:51 <epsy> ah, neat :)
17:53 <BabyBug> Oh FTGL 2.1.2 won't compile because of my GCC version
17:53 <BabyBug> ><
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18:29 <z-man-work> epsy: you mean our versions? Starting from 0.3, they're Linux style. Old linux style.
18:29 <z-man-work> 0.odd.x are unstable testing releases
18:29 <z-man-work> 0.even.x stable releases
18:29 <epsy> yeah, so that's a yes :)
18:29 <z-man-work> I suppose so :)
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19:43 <BabyBug> .ctos
19:43 <tronner> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): <H4x0R>, Dez, epsy¦×¦, Fry, hoop, MrAlph4, Recke, [HTF]B3NNY>(.)<, ¦×¦ Hoax
19:43 <ct|kyle> .rape the shelly cashman series
19:44  * ct|kyle believes jdk comes packed with Trojans
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19:54 <BabyBug> how do you pronounce wrtlprnft?
20:24 <epsy> you don't
20:31 <BabyBug> But you must =(
20:32 <KeY_3113> .ls crossc
20:32 <tronner> KeY_3113: CrossC has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 minutes ago.
20:32 <epsy> so he just been there to annoy me
20:32 <epsy> great
20:32 <KeY_3113> hehe
20:33 <epsy> BabyBug, how would you _need_ to pronounce it?
20:33 <epsy> BabyBug, I would spell it
20:34  * BabyBug says things he her head..and never knows how to pronounce it in her head =P
20:34 <epsy> :O
20:35 <ct|kyle> you pronounce it as W R T L :P
20:36 <epsy> P R N F T
20:36 <epsy> d'oh
20:36 <BabyBug> i tend to prounce it "were-tul-pur-funt"
20:36 <BabyBug> but i get the feeling that's not right...
20:37 <epsy> you should record that xD
20:38 <MrBougo> "hello, I am BabyBug and I pronounce wrtlprnft as wrtlprnft"
20:44  * BabyBug castrates MrBougo 
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20:45 <MrBougo> BabyBug, http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.ogg
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21:39 <BabyBug> That's how you should pronounce wrtlprnft! It's pronounced Pokemon!!
21:59 <BabyBug> Is the beta site down?
22:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: thats a question for o0 Luke-jr
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22:12 <epsy> i think having shift+esc pranks as default instant chat is.. just going to be abused and taken as example
22:13 <BabyBug> lol
22:13 <epsy> let's pursue the holing promotion
22:13 <BabyBug> holing promotion?
22:14 <epsy> z-man is a great holing supporter :)
22:14 <hoax> Only idiots miss holes.
22:14 <epsy> hoax, Exactly! :)
22:14 <hoax> Eated!
22:14 <BabyBug> ...
22:14 <epsy> Onoz! Onozed! Onozen!
22:15 <ct|kyle> epsy: i think 10 points is too much for a hole though
22:16 <epsy> that's 1/3 the reward for killing
22:16 <epsy> in fort it's half of it
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22:17 <ct|kyle> in fort is is 0% of a kill :P
22:17 <epsy> well if 1/2 gives 0 for you..
22:17 <BabyBug> lol
22:18 <ct|kyle> it is 0 points in ladle settings
22:19 <epsy> ok, are we playing ladle settings at
22:19 <epsy> @tea
22:19 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café - Ct's  Clone: Players (8/32): .W33D, 1 player, DaJollyLlama, Monkey (Monkey@forums), SageLord, ~*OmegA*~ (omega@forums), ~*SP*~dæmon, ~|DS|~|Night|~
22:20 <epsy> no, we are not
22:20 <epsy> so what are fortress settings? settings that are barely used, or settings that are used everyday?
22:21 <MaZuffeR> and which sumo server uses score_hole everyday? :P
22:22 <ct|kyle> exactly what i was going to say
22:22 <epsy> none, but i'm not saying these will be "the" team sumo settings
22:22 <ct|kyle> .tst
22:22 <tronner> Crazy Tronners Team Sumo: Players (0/16):
22:22 <ct|kyle> .ctos
22:22 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (1/12): TrT~GöKu
22:23 <epsy> OK "Crazy Tronners Team Sumo" runs settings that have a 10 points reward for holing
22:23 <epsy> are you just here to nitpick or do you want to actually discuss??
22:24 <ct|kyle> actually i was pointing out more people in open sumo than TST
22:24 <ct|kyle> .
22:24 <MaZuffeR> i dont really give a damn, but score_hole is not a good idea in sumo for the reason Lackadaisical already explained
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22:24 <epsy> it was on ¦×¦TeamSumo for months and nobody complained
22:24 <ct|kyle> I'm fine with score hole i just think 10 points is too much
22:24 <epsy> no bo dy
22:25 <epsy> it was the most popular server for team sumo and even some more, yet nobody complained
22:25 <epsy> explanation?
22:26 <MaZuffeR> well, it's different when it's a competition, that's also why nobody complains about score_hole of cafe, but it's 0 in ladle settings
22:26 <ct|kyle> I just don't think if i made a hole and my partner used it is should receive that much just because someone used it.
22:27 <epsy> tell me, who is going to actually torp all the time and win the whole tst by just using your damn hole points?
22:28 <MaZuffeR> no one, but it might decide one match and therefore have a big impact on the results
22:29 <epsy> don't let your ennemies reach a point where they can safely torp
22:29 <epsy> plain and simple
22:29 <ct|kyle> 5 points i think would be a bit better
22:29 <epsy> if you don't want to be beaten, don't let your ennemies gain points
22:30 <MaZuffeR> yeah yeah, have it your way then, i won't play anyway
22:30 <ct|kyle> have more than 7 teams signed up yet?
22:30 <epsy> yes, it's sad to loose, especially if it was by ten holing points
22:30 <epsy> I would still have laughed, tho
22:32 <epsy> ct|kyle, 17 teams
22:32 <ct|kyle> so our message helped then
22:32 <epsy> 3 are not confirmed yet, though
22:35 <BabyBug> is it 64 teams or 64 players?
22:36 <epsy> 64 players
22:36 <epsy> it's written everywhere :P
22:37 <BabyBug> pssht
22:37 <BabyBug> I'm welsh not english... (That's my excuse and i'm sticking to it!)
22:37 <epsy> haha :D
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22:43 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r710 encourage holing, not noob-pranking...
22:43 <BabyBug> \o/
22:55 <ct|kyle> epsy: better add one to encourage ganking too
22:55 <epsy> ct|kyle, ganking barely applies to anything than fort itseld
22:57 <ct|kyle> epsy: if yo want SCORE_HOLE 10 them lets make EXPLOSION_RADIUS .001
22:58 <ct|kyle> .cfg Explosion_r
22:58 <tronner> ct|kyle: CYCLE_EXPLOSION_RADIUS: cycle_explosion_radius_help (default: 4) || EXPLOSION_RADIUS: Blast radius of the cycle explosions (default: 4) || SP_EXPLOSION_RADIUS: Blast radius of the cycle explosions in single player mode (default: 4)
22:58 <epsy> again, are you nitpicking or wanting to discuss?
22:58 <ct|kyle> are you sidetracking the discussion or wanting to discuss?
22:59 <epsy> I'm listening
22:59 <madmax> besides epsy who else wants score_hole?
23:00  * BabyBug sticks her hand up!
23:00 <ct|kyle> that makes 2, any other takers?
23:00 <madmax> I'm just saying this because most opinions on the forums seemed against it
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23:00 <BabyBug> What's the arguement against score_hole?
23:01 <ct|kyle> read the forums
23:01 <epsy> way to convince someone
23:01 <BabyBug> got a link? or at least which forum am i looking in?
23:02 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=200303
23:02 <BabyBug> ty
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23:07  * BabyBug is still in favour of score_hole
23:08 <BabyBug> but i won't be playing so my opinion is pretty much worth nout =P
23:08 <ct|kyle> HEH my cities police sued the my City
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23:36 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:37 <BabyBug> \o/
23:39 <epsy> /o\
23:39 <BabyBug> -o-
23:40 <ivantis> OI#KLD
23:40  * ivantis is back!
23:40 <epsy> OI#KLD?
23:40 <ivantis> if your name was OI, i would be saying KLD to you
23:41 <ivantis> er
23:41 <epsy> great
23:41 <ivantis> translation: Hey, KLD!
23:41 <ivantis> but KLD is not here
23:41 <ivantis> wrong channel
23:41 <ivantis> and network
23:43 <epsy> great
23:43 <epsy> :|
23:45 -!- blueamy [n=AMYS@customers.shef2.opal.ask4.co.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:49 -!- DStar_ [n=dstar@84-73-19-117.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:56 -!- ct|kyle is now known as OI
23:56 -!- OI is now known as ct|kyle
23:58  * BabyBug pokes ct|kyle in da belly button
23:59  * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug in the leg

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» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
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About ArmaNelgTron.tk

is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.

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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!

(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)

This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...

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