Log from 2008-09-09:
--- Day changed Tue Sep 09 2008
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00:00 <ivantis> hey
00:00 <hoop> =)
00:00 <ivantis> luke-jr: i was using your stupid configuration on the mirroring wiki which you told me to read
00:00 <ivantis> dummy
00:00 <ivantis> okay
00:00 <luke-jr> and that part works fine
00:01 <luke-jr> it's the rest of your crappy config that doesn't
00:01 <ivantis> not for me
00:01 <ivantis> w/e
00:01 <luke-jr> and the fact that you're editing 000-default
00:01 <luke-jr> which you shouldn't
00:01 <ivantis> so?
00:01 <ivantis> oh well
00:02 <ivantis> okay, hoop
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00:02 <ivantis> send me your gWinZone.cpp code
00:02 <ivantis> is that the only file effected with your rubber zones hack?
00:02 <hoop> not only
00:02 <ivantis> what other file(s)?
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00:03 <hoop> in gCycleMovements.h
00:03 <ivantis> okay
00:03 <ivantis> send me all effected files
00:03 <hoop> there's a private SetRubber()
00:03 <hoop> i just changed it to public
00:04 <hoop> gWinZone.cpp: http://pastebin.com/m1f02a092
00:04 <ivantis> okay
00:04 <hoop> there are other changes here to
00:04 <hoop> about the race timer
00:04 <ivantis> okay
00:04 <hoop> you can't use it as it is
00:04 <ivantis> ill just focus on rubber zones
00:05 <hoop> search for DZ_RUBBER
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00:05 <hoop> of '//HACK'
00:05 <hoop> or*
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00:08 <ivantis> on target->Player()->AddScore( score_deathzone, tOutput(), "$player_lose_deathzone" ); in sg_DeathZoneHurtRubber, you could put a special language setting for rubber zones
00:09 <ivantis> your code is much cleaner than mine
00:09 * ivantis is a slob who never uses comments
00:11 <hoop> in language/english_base.txt: player_lose_deathzone \1 exploded on a deathzone and lost \2 points.\n
00:12 <hoop> oops nvm
00:12 <ivantis> make it player_lose_rubberzone \1 ran out of rubber on a rubber-zone and lost \2 points.\n
00:12 <ivantis> and add that in target->Player()->AddScore( score_deathzone, tOutput(), "$player_lose_rubberzone" );
00:12 <hoop> yea, it was one thing to do I forgot to do XD
00:14 <hoop> I dont think it should be a new zone type tho
00:14 <hoop> it kills you like death zones do
00:14 <ivantis> maybe not
00:14 <ivantis> yeah
00:14 <hoop> and a map with both types will result confusing
00:14 <ivantis> can you figure out why this code wouldnt work?
00:15 <hoop> cant compile it?
00:15 <ivantis> sorry its really sloppy, http://pastebin.com/m432d2e20
00:15 <ivantis> yeah, i can compile it, it works only once after the server is started, and then doesnt do anything
00:15 <ivantis> very odd
00:16 <ivantis> #list alias
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, (4 more messages)
00:16 <ivantis> #ivantis
00:16 <hoop> lol @ gArena & arena = Arena;
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 16 minutes ago.
00:16 <ivantis> yes that code
00:16 <ivantis> #help crashme
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: (crashme <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Okay, guys, how about we NOT try to crash me?".
00:17 <hoop> have you read the last part of your thread?
00:17 <ivantis> no
00:17 <ivantis> wow, ok :)
00:17 <ivantis> ?
00:18 <ivantis> is that it?
00:18 <hoop> you way shouldn't matter, it's just useless
00:18 <ivantis> whats useless?
00:19 <ivantis> oh that
00:19 <hoop> I just saw your not even using Arena in code
00:19 <ivantis> yes i am
00:19 <ivantis> arena.leastdangerousspawnpoint
00:19 <hoop> ^^
00:19 <hoop> not Arena
00:20 <ivantis> whatever
00:20 <hoop> ah ok, nvm XD
00:20 <hoop> im wrong
00:20 <ivantis> but can you figure out why it wouldnt work?
00:20 <hoop> be more specific, what's not working?
00:20 <ivantis> #/me is puzzled at why ivantis' code wont work
00:20 * armabot is puzzled at why ivantis' code wont work
00:20 <ivantis> come to my server, see
00:21 <ivantis> custom connect: armaserver.space-lab.us port 4537
00:25 <ivantis> did you leave yet?
00:26 <ivantis> its very odd
00:26 <hoop> what command output?
00:26 <ivantis> idk
00:26 <ivantis> but how its executed
00:27 <ivantis> idk
00:27 <hoop> are you using a script?
00:27 <ivantis> no
00:27 <ivantis> did you look at http://pastebin.com/m432d2e20 ?
00:28 <hoop> yes im looking
00:30 <hoop> is there other code?
00:30 <ivantis> no
00:30 <ivantis> thats it
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00:31 <ivantis> wait..
00:31 <ivantis> i think i might know how to make it work...
00:35 <ivantis> im recompiling
00:35 <ivantis> hold on
00:36 <ivantis> nvm
00:36 <ivantis> still doesnt work
00:36 <ivantis> well, ponder over my code will you?
00:36 <ivantis> i have to go to tennis lessons soon
00:38 <hoop> i'd need to compile it myself and do some test
00:38 <ivantis> see ya hoop
00:38 <ivantis> ill bbl
00:38 <ivantis> wait...
00:38 <ivantis> i just remembered something...
00:38 <ivantis> if you uncomment that last block of code
00:38 <ivantis> in it thats commented with /*
00:39 <ivantis> on the second time you enter the zone it collapses for some odd reason
00:39 <ivantis> play around with it and tell me your findings
00:39 <ivantis> i g2g
00:39 <hoop> see ya
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00:47 * Lucifer_pen thinks we should rename this channel to #12yomonologue
00:49 * fonkay thinks this channel needs more luci.
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01:07 <Lucifer_pen> luci? who's that?
01:07 <fonkay> You
01:08 <Lucifer_pen> oh!
01:08 <fonkay> You've always been Luci darlin'
01:08 <Lucifer_pen> er, atually, this whole divorce thing is kind of occupying most of my time right now :(
01:08 <fonkay> yea, that'll do it.
01:09 <Lucifer_pen> the good news is that we can appear in court as early as November 4 with our papers in hand and be pronounced divorced by a judge
01:10 <fonkay> But it's been too quiet 'round here
01:10 <Lucifer_pen> well, I can talk about my divorce and job search, heh
01:10 <fonkay> Sounds uplifting.
01:10 <Lucifer_pen> :/
01:11 <Lucifer_pen> actualy, some folks around here are supposed to be part of my support structure, but because of where I'm staying, I can't actually be here very much :(
01:13 <fonkay> Are you still schooling?
01:14 <Lucifer_pen> no classes this semester
01:14 <Lucifer_pen> trying to transfer for the spring semester, though
01:15 <ivantis> why divorce?
01:15 <ivantis> you have kids dont you?
01:15 <ivantis> it must be hard for them
01:15 <ivantis> my parents arent divorced, i dont think they will be
01:15 <Lucifer_pen> yeah, why don't you take a guess how many times I"ve heard that in the last 2 weeks?
01:16 * ivantis 's tennis lessons were cancelled due to rain?
01:16 <ivantis> a lot?
01:16 <Lucifer_pen> divorce isn't easy for anybody, and anybody telling you that is selling something
01:16 <Lucifer_pen> really, my marriage was over several years ago, it just took us that long to figure it out
01:16 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: divorce on election day LOL
01:17 <ivantis> divorce on my birthday
01:17 <fonkay> I'm not going to partake in a divorce pro/con debate, but it can be good for kids as often as it can be hard on them.
01:17 * ivantis 's birthday is november 4th
01:17 <Lucifer_pen> fonkay: afaik, it depends on the marriage and the individuals and how they handle the kids
01:17 * ivantis will turn 14 in like 2 months!
01:17 <Lucifer_pen> we're getting along so far, and working it out pretty peacefully
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> in fact, there's only one sticdking point that I'm aware of
01:18 <fonkay> Sucks about the no class luci. One less thing to occupy your brain.
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> I don't think I could handle a load of classes right now
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> I sat down to do some sql problems for a job I was trying to get and I just couldn't concentrate on them
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> wound up emailing the guy back, telling him what was going on, and apologizing for not b eing able to do it
01:18 <ivantis> i dont think i can handle a load of classes right now
01:19 <Lucifer_pen> the geology lady offered me extra hours, though, so I'm not too far from being situated for employment
01:19 <fonkay> Yea, I suppose it would depend on you. I would rather lots of class/work/anything to keep my mind busy at nights. But compound stress can be bad too.
01:20 <fonkay> I'd offer work/money/support if I had any to give.
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> being busy at nights, or rather not having anything to do at nights, has been slowly driving me crazy
01:21 <fonkay> I'd make the worst councelor ever.
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> I finally went down and bought a book
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> well, two books. One on the laws of divorce in texas, and one on the psychological stuff
01:22 <Lucifer_pen> I don't know that you'd be a bad counselor. All a counselor has to do is listen :)
01:22 <Lucifer_pen> http://brainden.com/best-puzzles.htm
01:23 <Lucifer_pen> well, the last students left my lab, which means I'm probably going to go downstairs and read my book
01:23 <Lucifer_pen> maybe now would be a time for somebody to start up another version of the werewolf game
01:24 <Lucifer_pen> that game has a way of taking over a life for a short period of time ;)
01:24 <Lucifer_pen> anyway, bbiab
01:25 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: freediv
01:25 <ct|kyle> civ*
01:25 <fonkay> later kiddo.
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01:29 * fonkay agrees with luci.
01:29 <fonkay> guru3?
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01:48 <ivantis> Lucifer: how come your ACME map editor doesnt support zones?
01:55 <luke-jr> ivantis: zones probably didn't exist when he wrote it
01:55 <ivantis> oh
01:55 <luke-jr> at least not as a map element
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01:58 <ivantis> luke-jr: would it be rediculously hard to add an element to <ShapeCircle radius="4"> like to make it <ShapeCircle radius="4" somethingelse="value">?
01:59 <ivantis> im looking at gParser.cpp and gWinZone.cpp
01:59 <luke-jr> ivantis: that doesn't even make sense
01:59 <ivantis> ?
02:03 <ivantis> luke-jr: C++ question: fallSpeed_ = speed; return *this; would return the value of speed as the variable fallSpeed_, correct?
02:03 <luke-jr> wtf
02:04 <luke-jr> are you insane?
02:04 <ivantis> im guessin thats a no?
02:04 <luke-jr> you ARE insane
02:04 <luke-jr> -.-
02:04 <ivantis> but is that right?
02:04 <ivantis> or not
02:04 <luke-jr> of course not
02:05 <ivantis> what would it return?
02:05 <luke-jr> a copy of 'this'
02:06 <ivantis> uh
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02:06 <ivantis> i dont see 'this' declared anywhere
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02:08 <ivantis> oh right, i get it now
02:08 <ivantis> nvm
02:09 * ivantis is a C++ dummy
02:11 <ivantis> im thinking of making <ShapeCircle xspawn="coord" yspawn="coord" xdir="dir" ydir="dir"> for teleporting
02:11 <ivantis> and the teleport zones will interpret those
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21:50 * wrtlprnft is waiting for the day ms drops using .bmp by default
21:51 <epsy> didn't they do already?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> someone figured out that they could use printscreen on the dialog they can't answer and paste that into a mail to me. as a freaking 6MB BMP file.
21:51 <epsy> ah
21:52 <wrtlprnft> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
21:52 <wrtlprnft> could have guessed that
21:52 <epsy> my first question is, what was the dialog's size(in pixels) ?
21:52 <wrtlprnft> well, the screen's, actually
21:52 <wrtlprnft> the dialog is quite small
21:52 <epsy> Windows Live Mail is a web app, isn't it?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> err, no?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> it's outlook for vista
21:53 <wrtlprnft> preinstalld.
21:53 <wrtlprnft> *preinstalled
21:53 <epsy> i think you had to pay to watch your msn emails using a real web client
21:54 <epsy> (well, using MS's way, and considering you don't pay the computer and the OEM)
21:54 <wrtlprnft> what's msn got to do whith it?
21:54 <hoax> win live mail is what they call webmail now
21:54 <wrtlprnft> it's a provider provided email address
21:54 <epsy> a windows live e-mail account is paired with an windows live messenger account
21:55 <epsy> ah
21:55 <epsy> MS supports POP3 ?
21:55 <wrtlprnft> on the client side :-)
21:55 <wrtlprnft> they pretty much have to
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22:30 * ivantis finished his SWEET map hack yesterday
22:30 <K-Yo> ivantis: what the fuck is that again?
22:31 <ivantis> its sweet
22:31 <epsy> how is it sweet?
22:31 <ivantis> which reminds me, i should bzr push now...
22:31 <epsy> (great timing btw)
22:31 <K-Yo> ivantis: running on ur server now?
22:31 <ivantis> yeah
22:31 <K-Yo> let's see
22:32 <ivantis> <ShapeCircle radius="4" xdir="1" ydir="1" xpos="10" ypos="10">, the xdir ydir xpos ypos stuff is for where the player will teleport when entering the zone
22:32 <epsy> erm
22:32 <epsy> wouldn't that belong to the effect part?
22:33 <epsy> that's the SHAPE part
22:35 <ivantis> i am not doing all that coding again
22:35 <K-Yo> hahaha
22:35 <ivantis> shut up
22:35 <K-Yo> his stuff is still totally fucked up
22:35 <K-Yo> :P
22:35 <ivantis> anyway, in <Zone>, the client also reads that
22:35 <ivantis> i hate messing with client stuff
22:36 <ivantis> and epsy
22:36 <K-Yo> ivantis: what did you hack? sty+ct or trunk or 0.2.8 ?
22:36 <ivantis> one more bug to squish
22:36 <ivantis> sty+ct
22:36 <K-Yo> ok
22:36 <ivantis> it uses RESPAWN_PLAYER actually
22:36 <epsy> i don't fix bugs on sty+ct
22:36 <K-Yo> soon you'll launch your own branch: sty+ct+ivantis
22:36 <epsy> mainly because i don't have access to it
22:36 <epsy> K-Yo, he did
22:36 <ivantis> well, tell me if this one line wouldnt work
22:36 <K-Yo> nowai
22:36 <K-Yo> haha
22:36 <ivantis> i havent pushed to it yet
22:36 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~ivantis/armagetronad/sty+ct+ivantis
22:37 <K-Yo> hahahahahha
22:37 <K-Yo> 1337h4x?
22:37 <ivantis> yeah
22:37 <K-Yo> .lamometer 1337h4x
22:37 <ivantis> my 1337h4x
22:37 <K-Yo> .nickometer 1337h4x
22:37 <tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337h4x" is 99.2%.
22:37 <K-Yo> woot!
22:37 <ivantis> epsy: why wouldnt this work?
22:37 <ivantis> target->Kill();
22:37 <ivantis> static tString str ("RESPAWN_PLAYER ");
22:37 <ivantis> str << ePlayerNetID::FilterName(target->Player()->GetUserName()) << " 0 " << GetXPos() << " " << GetYPos() << " " << GetXDir() << " " << GetYDir();
22:38 <ivantis> it works for the first player, but it doesnt respawn the second player
22:38 <ivantis> i dont understand why
22:38 <epsy> 1/ becayse target doesnt exist
22:38 <ivantis> yes it does
22:38 <epsy> 2/ because str doesn't exist
22:38 <ivantis> gCycle * target
22:38 <ivantis> its in a zone thing
22:38 <ivantis> onEnter
22:38 <epsy> 3/ because you did not have ePlayerNedID stuff in there
22:39 <epsy> 4/ because target->Player() does not exist
22:39 <ivantis> dude, i just said "it works for the first player just fine"
22:39 <epsy> enough?
22:40 <ivantis> need to see the whole block? http://pastebin.com/m475608b7
22:40 <epsy> actually, i don't even know what's going wrong?
22:40 <ivantis> yeah
22:40 <ivantis> its very odd
22:40 <epsy> oh, poor you
22:40 <ivantis> oh you dont know whats going wrong
22:40 <ivantis> come to my serv for a sec, ill show you
22:40 <epsy> it may be very odd, i still don"'t know what's going wrong
22:41 <ivantis> wtf? it stopped working again
22:51 <ivantis> k-yo: i think i fixed, will you come back and try it again?
22:52 <K-Yo> yep
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22:55 <RoGuE> wd ivantis
22:55 <RoGuE> lol
22:55 <RoGuE> what did you do to the server
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22:56 <ivantis> okay epsy, i fixed it without any help from you
22:56 <K-Yo> ivantis: it ALWAYS teleports me to the same place
22:56 <ivantis> <ShapeCircle radius="4" xdir="1" ydir="1" xpos="10" ypos="10">
22:56 <ivantis> thats in the map
22:56 <epsy> i did not give any help, since you did not even tell me what was the problem
22:56 <epsy> so what
22:56 <ivantis> nvm epsy
22:56 <RoGuE> ivantis, you sure? when i try to connect it gives me an xml error
22:57 <epsy> so, stfu
22:57 <ivantis> uh
22:57 <ivantis> let me fix that rogue
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23:05 <ivantis> hold on...
23:08 <ivantis> fixed
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23:14 <ivantis> does anyone know how to login to push with bzr?
23:14 <luke-jr> probably a good thing that you're too dumb to read what bzr told you
23:25 <ivantis> luke-jr: there is a light on my computer (DELL dimension 4600) that is next to an image that looks kind of like a jar, when its on my computer is usually processing something. what does it mean?
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23:37 <noob13> .joint
23:37 * tronner rolls 139 joints and passes them to tronner, zmanuel and P4
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23:45 <ivantis> why the hell does "bzr commit -m "first commit"" take so long and make my computer so slow?
23:45 <ivantis> xchat crashed
23:45 <ivantis> it stopped at "added language" and is still doing something stupid
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23:51 <ivantis> ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.
23:52 <ivantis> oh finally, bzr stopped
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