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--- Day changed Mon Sep 08 2008
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02:13  * ivantis just made his first C++ game
02:15 <StickyNoob> what game?
02:15 <ivantis> guess
02:15 <ivantis> you guess a number between 0 and 100
02:16 <StickyNoob> ouch, thats a wide range
02:16 <ivantis> its easy
02:16 <StickyNoob> average of 50 guesses
02:16 <ivantis> it tells you to go higher or lower
02:16 <StickyNoob> oh
02:16 <ivantis> average of 10 guesses
02:16 <StickyNoob> naaa
02:17 <StickyNoob> should be less than that
02:17 <ivantis> idk
02:18 <StickyNoob> average case should be log2(n)-1
02:20 <StickyNoob> 5.64
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02:21 <ivantis> @alias add todays-log fetch http://space-lab.us/todays-log.pl
02:21 <ivantis> oh yeah
02:21 <ivantis> im still being ignored
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02:36 <RoGuE> Hey, any of you ever used armabell?
02:37 <ivantis> no
02:40 <RoGuE> :/ boo
02:41 <RoGuE> It's a bunch of shiz that lucifer made
02:41 <RoGuE> http://fwt.txdnl.com/4-10/w/o/woof/var/ArmaTool_1.0.zip
02:42 <RoGuE> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=ArmaBell
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06:50 <luke-jr> did 0.3.1 ever get released?
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10:57 <Durka_tr> hello, anyone here? :\
11:02 <Durka_tr> damn
11:02 <Durka_tr> ghost town up in hurr
11:07 <fonkay> it's an odd time of day for most on here.
11:09 <Durka_tr> heh
11:09 <Durka_tr> fonkay, do u know anything about anything?
11:09 <fonkay> I know lots about some stuff..
11:10 <Durka_tr> fonkay: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=198981#198981
11:10 <Durka_tr> did i use logical thinking?
11:10 <fonkay> probably nothing that's helpful to you though.
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11:11 <Durka_tr> oops
11:11 <Durka_tr> back
11:13 <fonkay> Makes sense to me. You had a wanring that said the line was fucking up the system, so you deleted said line and the build succeeded.
11:13 <Durka_tr> heh
11:13 <Durka_tr> but i think i deleted an important line x_X
11:13 <fonkay> what
11:13 <fonkay>  does it mean??
11:13 <Durka_tr> idk :\
11:16 <Durka_tr> k cya
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11:19 <fonkay> Yep that was something important alright.
11:20 <fonkay> #include "nKrawall.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tString.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tConsole.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tArray.h"
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11:53 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r880 Of course, pure touch does not clear the files, as the purpo...
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12:38 <Durka_tr> z-man: ping :)
12:39 <z-man> whut?
12:39 <z-man> Oh, that #include line? It's crap and is removed in bzr already.
12:40 <Durka_tr> sweet
12:40 <Durka_tr> and i just replied with another question
12:41 <Durka_tr> i figured i'd try and catch while u were here
12:41 <Durka_tr> rather than on another remote island with no internetz
12:41 <Durka_tr> x_X
12:42 <z-man> Answered it.
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12:44 <Durka_tr> well
12:44 <Durka_tr> this is the first time i've gotten that error
12:44 <Durka_tr> and i've been building the same way
12:45 <Durka_tr> except this time i took it from bzr and not that sourceforge svn stuff
12:45 <z-man> Hmm, then I don't know.
12:45 <Durka_tr> does that make a difference?
12:45 <z-man> Yes.
12:45 <Durka_tr> :P
12:45 <z-man> The version in alpha builds is retrieved from the source control.
12:45 <z-man> So modify that to "we can't be arsed to do X scripts for Y systems and Z version control schemes :)
12:46 <z-man> Plus, with BZR, you can't actually get a reliable version number; revision numbers can change when merging happens.
12:47 <Durka_tr> so
12:47 <Durka_tr> if i wouldve used svn
12:48 <Durka_tr> it wouldve attached that version thing
12:48 <Durka_tr> :|
12:48 <z-man> I guess. At least, I think nobody changed that stuff, so I see no reason why it would fail.
12:49 <Durka_tr> since im not a dev and not making/editing files and stuff
12:49 <Durka_tr> does it matter whether i use svn or bzr
12:49 <Durka_tr> it seems bzr updates faster
12:49 <Durka_tr> with the changes
12:54 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r881 Removed includes....
12:57 <Durka_tr> heh, fast as in like 15 minutes delayed :P
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13:01 <Durka_tr> cya
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14:05 <hoop> eddiefantastic: are you there? Flower Power is having connection issues
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21:35 <RoGuE> Hey guys :) hope everyone is having a great day.  Does anyone know where to get a good server browser monitor like this one here?  http://tron.art-pulse.net/armabrowser.php it doesn't have to be JUST like that, but i would like a good one.  :D thanks!
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21:45 <P4> RoGuE : like this one? http://crazy-tronners.com/serverbrowser :)
21:49 <P4> RoGuE: view-source:http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php ← here's the server feed
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22:03 <RoGuE> Wow... Wish i knew some php ;)
22:04 <RoGuE> Thanks P4
22:04 <P4> RoGuE: read some on http://php.net/ ;)
22:05 <RoGuE> Thanks :)
22:08 <RoGuE> Man, how did they get the site to read the "0xffffff" colors?  Thats armagetron only dude
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22:39 <ivantis> to get 0x****** colors, would it just be replacing it with like </font><font color="#******">?
22:40 <epsy> that's the unclean way to do it, yes :x
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22:40 <ivantis> whats the clean way?
22:40 <epsy> understanding the color
22:40 <ivantis> ?
22:41 <epsy> the, not using the 'font' tag
22:41 <epsy> then*
22:41 <ivantis> how else?
22:41 -!- Liza_ is now known as Liza
22:41 <epsy> the other way
22:42 <epsy> <span style="color: rgb( r, g, b ); background-color: transparent OR rgb ( 255, 255 ,255 )">text</span>
22:42 <ivantis> oh
22:42 <ivantis> <span style="color:#ffffff;">
22:42 <epsy> mh
22:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: err, what's the difference between font color=x and span style=color:x?
22:43 <epsy> I r dunt li3k color:#ffffff;
22:43 <wrtlprnft> semantically it's the same thing.
22:43 <ivantis> yeah
22:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, if i remember correctly, <font> isn't valid xhtml strict
22:43 <epsy> um, hi
22:43 <wrtlprnft> yeah, hi
22:43 <epsy> where you been?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> just busy
22:44 <wrtlprnft> and i lost my awaylog due to restarting my server
22:44 <ivantis> what happened to your armalogs?
22:44 <epsy> you weren't logging chatlogs anymore either
22:44 <ivantis> yeah
22:44 <epsy> armabot went down too, but hopefully the master is still up
22:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: because you should ideally neither use font color=x nor span style=color:x
22:44 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ideally
22:45 <wrtlprnft> the master is up
22:45 <ivantis> what did happen to your chatlogs?
22:45 <wrtlprnft> err, armabot doesn't start, got to check on that
22:45 <ivantis> run out of disk space?
22:45 <wrtlprnft> not this time, gotta check
22:45 <ivantis> epsy: finally, a bot that wont ignore me
22:46 <epsy>  *** ivantis is happy
22:46 <ivantis> howd ya know?
22:46 <wrtlprnft> armalogs look fine to me…
22:46 <ivantis> they ended
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22:46 <ivantis> 2008-08-22
22:46 <ivantis> is the last one
22:46  * ivantis started his own logs
22:47 <wrtlprnft> wtf?
22:47 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-09-08.txt
22:47 <ivantis> http://armalogs.space-lab.us
22:47 <ivantis> well
22:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wtf armabot?
22:47 <epsy> well that was h4x
22:47 <ivantis> you were missing them since 08-22 a little ago
22:47 <wrtlprnft>   File "/usr/bin/supybot", line 36, in <module>
22:47 <wrtlprnft>     import supybot
22:47 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named supybot
22:48 <epsy> (note the spaces carefully)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> maybe the script was indeed killed due to disk overflow
22:48 <ivantis> great
22:48 <epsy> #ping
22:48 <epsy> :)
22:49 <ivantis> Q:	What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
22:49 <ivantis> A:	Open other end.
22:49 <wrtlprnft> grml, and i should really find time to fix my server
22:49 <ivantis> my fortune of the day
22:49 <ivantis> had to go to work?
22:49  * ivantis has had to go to school
22:50 <epsy> th15 15 ch405!!!
22:50 <wrtlprnft> well, given that we STILL have conscription I was pretty much forced to start my alternative civil service
22:50 <wrtlprnft> and so i am busy and not even paid a lot
22:52 <wrtlprnft> and the best thing is that all those bastards who didn't get an Y chromosome have a free ticket out of this entire crap
22:53 <wrtlprnft> so… is released yet? :o
22:55  * ivantis is mirroring the resource repository right now
22:55 <teabot> no it isn't
22:55 <ivantis> i didnt know wget had a -mirror option until yesterday
22:55  * luke-jr blocks ivantis from the repository
22:56 <ivantis> exactly, thats why im mirroring it
22:56 <epsy> lol
22:56 <luke-jr> ivantis: no, I'm blocking you because you're abusing it :þ
22:56 <luke-jr> there is a correct well-documented way to mirror it
22:56 <ivantis> but why do you say things about people can mirror it?
22:56 <luke-jr> and then there is flooding the HTTP servers
22:56 <epsy> you're meant to sync with rsync
22:56 <ivantis> oh
22:56 <ivantis> server?
22:56 <wrtlprnft> <luke-jr> RTFM
22:57 <ivantis> rsync://resource.armagetronad.net?
22:57 <luke-jr> rsync://master.resource.armagetronad.net/armagetron-resource
22:57 <ivantis> ok
23:02 <wrtlprnft> armabot coming up…
23:02 <wrtlprnft> python's module system is weird.
23:03 <epsy> the next one to enter is gay!!!!!!!!11111
23:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
23:03 <@wrtlprnft> /kick epsy 
23:03 <@wrtlprnft> (and wait for him to reenter)
23:03 <epsy> oh, sorry, lesbian :o)
23:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by wrtlprnft
23:03 <ct|kyle> o0 wrtlprnft it's alive
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23:04 <ivantis> yay!
23:04 <ivantis> #ping
23:04 <epsy> omg a lesbian !!!111!1!111111ELEVEN
23:04 <ivantis> doesnt work
23:04  * epsy takes the plane down
23:04 <ct|kyle> #ping
23:04 <armabot> pong
23:04 <epsy> ivantis, takes time
23:04 <hoax> fuck armabot where's cafe
23:04 <epsy> hahaha ivantis
23:04 <armabot> pong
23:04 <ivantis> #ping
23:05 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: remember to ignore ivantis
23:05 <armabot> pong
23:05 <ivantis> yayay!
23:05 <ivantis> nononono
23:05 <wrtlprnft> hoax: it's already painful enough without people reminding me
23:05 <epsy> #echo @ping
23:05 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: (hi :) how's things?), I have logs for those missing days if you want them
23:05 <ivantis> dont ignore me
23:05 <ivantis> eddie: theyre there already
23:05 <ivantis> which reminds me
23:05 <hoax> haha ok sry bro, just checkin :D
23:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't even have time to read the ones i have
23:05 <armabot> @ping
23:05 <ivantis> no further use for my logs
23:05  * ivantis is removing loggerbot_*
23:05 <wrtlprnft> and i lost my awaylog, and i'm too lazy to grep my logs manually
23:05 <eddiefantastic> oh yeah, so they are, silly me
23:05 <eddiefantastic> I was looking at the date column
23:06 <epsy> wrtlprnft, let me sum it up
23:06 <epsy> « where is cafe ?? »
23:06 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:18fc:16e6:0:1d:0:0:7034] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:06 <epsy> « where is armabot ?? »
23:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not sure we need armabot anymore :þ
23:06 <luke-jr> there's ljrbot, loggerbot_8, teabot, and tronner now
23:06 <luke-jr> #ping
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23:06 <wrtlprnft> actually the fact that i lost my awaylog is one of the reasons why i checked in here again. I was too lazy to look at the huge pile of messages
23:06 <epsy> « where is server stats ?? »
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23:07 <wrtlprnft> gotta have more bots than users in #armagetron, right?
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23:07 <armabot> pong
23:07 <wrtlprnft> oh, did i mention that armabot is slow as ever
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23:08 <epsy> we could figure it out :P
23:08 <epsy> @echo #ping
23:08 <teabot> #ping
23:08 <armabot> pong
23:08 <epsy> meh
23:09 <wrtlprnft> @echo #time [time]
23:09 <teabot> #time 02:10 PM, September 08, 2008
23:09 <epsy> wrtlprnft, *!*bot*@* and *bot*!*@* work pretty well
23:09 <armabot> teabot: Error: 'PM,' is not a valid floating point number.
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23:11 <ivantis> http://resource.space-lab.us/resource/
23:11 <ivantis> luke-jr: btw, ljrbot still goes to #armagetron-dev
23:11 <luke-jr> ivantis: I think you MISSED THE POINT
23:11 <ivantis> what point?
23:12 <ivantis> okay
23:12 <ivantis> chill
23:12 <luke-jr> and stop giving us bad links :þ
23:12 <ivantis> that isnt a bad link
23:12 <ivantis> foo
23:12 <luke-jr> yes it is
23:12 <ivantis> it doesnt load for you?
23:12 <ivantis> how odd
23:12 <wrtlprnft> nope
23:13 <ivantis> well, it works for getting resources for clients
23:13 <ivantis> like my map and my dtd which you dont like
23:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe a DNS update thing
23:13 <ivantis> *.space-lab.us is a CNAME to ivantis.ath.cx
23:14 <ivantis> oh yeah, for some reason sometimes file list pages dont work for some people
23:16 <ivantis> vhost configuration file?
23:16 <luke-jr> Timeout on server
23:16 <luke-jr> Connection was to resource.space-lab.us at port 80
23:16 <ivantis> i just edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
23:16 <luke-jr> points to 63-245-159-78.kitusa.com
23:16 <ivantis> thats weird
23:16 <ivantis> yeah
23:16 <ivantis> my dns
23:16 <ivantis> try a map file
23:17 <ivantis> index pages sometimes dont work
23:17 <luke-jr> u r screwed up
23:17 <luke-jr> just FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS
23:17 <ivantis> why and how?
23:17 <ivantis> for what???
23:17 <ivantis> it works just fine for me
23:18 <wrtlprnft> probably got to do with that sneak .htaccess file that's on the rsync server
23:18 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=How_to_become_a_resource_repository_mirror
23:18 <ivantis> im reading it
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23:19 <wrtlprnft> by the way, have there be any sightings of ph?
23:20 <epsy> not really
23:20 <wrtlprnft> just irreal sightings?
23:20 <epsy> :)
23:20 <luke-jr> :o
23:22 <ivantis> luke-jr: what would my mirror number be?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> sqrt(-1764)
23:22 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(-1764)
23:23 <luke-jr> ivantis: you can be eight
23:23 <wrtlprnft> just checking if that still works
23:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(-1,764) = 42 i
23:23 <wrtlprnft> woot
23:23 <ivantis> great
23:23 <ivantis> #8
23:23 <epsy> #list qgoogle
23:23 <ivantis> so ServerName 8.resource.aa.dashjr.org?
23:23 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'qgoogle' is not a valid plugin.
23:23 <epsy> oh, you have a SOAP key..
23:23 <wrtlprnft> :-)
23:23 <luke-jr> no, eight
23:23 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
23:23 <luke-jr> not 8
23:24 <ivantis> ok
23:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
23:24 <ct|kyle> :) works
23:24  * wrtlprnft curses google for not giving these out anymore
23:24 <ivantis> yeah
23:24 <ivantis> youre using lucifers arent you?
23:24 <wrtlprnft> because they realized they can't put ads on those results
23:24 <epsy> i'm using the QGoogle plugin, i can use an ajax key with it
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23:24 <wrtlprnft> if the only way to use google results is some JS/AJAX library they can put whatever they please
23:25 <epsy> trough, for a very strange reason, it's _always_ the Google plugin which will handle the google command
23:26 <ivantis> luke-jr: rsync: send_files failed to open "/add-resource.htpasswd.bak" (in armagetron-resource): Permission denied (13)
23:26 <epsy> i can even try disabling it, it will still use it
23:26 <ivantis> what does that mean?
23:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: ignore it
23:26 <ivantis> k
23:26 <luke-jr> it means you don't get a copy of the passwords
23:26 <luke-jr> :þ
23:26 <epsy> note to self: never trust python
23:26 <epsy> why not?
23:27 <wrtlprnft> you have to know that yourself
23:27 <wrtlprnft> after all it is a note to yourself
23:27 <ivantis> luke-jr: rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1385) [generator=2.6.9]
23:27 <ivantis> is that bad?
23:27 <epsy> ivantis, that's the other file
23:28 <epsy> *because of the other file
23:28 <ivantis> nice one: [Mon Sep 08 16:26:53 2008] [error] VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results
23:28 <luke-jr> ivantis: no
23:29 <luke-jr> ivantis: so fix your apache config
23:30 <ivantis> it says forbidden
23:30 <ivantis> when i try to go in browser
23:31 <ivantis> localhost/armagetron
23:31 <luke-jr> …
23:31 <ivantis> chmod 755 /var/www/armagetron
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23:31 <ivantis> and it still doesnt work
23:31 <epsy> gn
23:31 <ivantis> ?
23:31 <epsy> ivantis, apache config
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: it doesn't use localhost
23:32 <epsy> GN = Good Night
23:32 <epsy> #night
23:32 <epsy> :)
23:32 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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23:34 <ivantis> route eight.resource.aa.dashjr.org to ivantis.ath.cx
23:34 <ivantis> see if it works then
23:36 <ivantis> wtf am i doing wrong?
23:37 <ivantis> the end of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: http://pastebin.com/m433c03ad
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23:42 <ivantis> luke-jr: hmm?
23:50 <luke-jr> ivantis: not my fault if you're too dumb to configure apache properly

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