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Log from 2008-09-01:
--- Day changed Mon Sep 01 2008
00:02 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
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01:52 <xfroggy> luke-jr, server down again >.<
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02:47 <ivantis_> @ping
02:48 <ivantis_> #ping
02:48 <ivantis_> ]ping
02:48 <ivantis_> .ping
02:48 <ivantis_> aw
02:48  * ivantis_ is angry with the bots owners
02:52 <hoax> owned
02:58 <ivantis> noob
02:58 <ivantis> vnc really isnt that slow
02:59 <ivantis> @ping
02:59 <ivantis> .ping
02:59 <ivantis> ]ping
02:59 -!- ivantis is now known as botspam
02:59 <botspam> @ping
02:59 <botspam> .ping
02:59 <botspam> grr
03:00 -!- botspam is now known as ivantis
03:00 <hoax> calling yourself a noob, thats the first stage isn't it
03:00 <ivantis> first stage of being a noob
03:00 <xfroggy> next stage would be leaving :D
03:01 <ivantis_> yeah, right
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03:01 <hoax> amen
03:01 <xfroggy> :D
03:01 <hoax> now the other one...
03:01 <xfroggy> speaking with yourself in 3rd person isn't going to help you hoax
03:02 <hoax> haha :D
03:02 <xfroggy> :P
03:02 <hoax> stfu you
03:02 <hoax> :P
03:02 <xfroggy> you stfu
03:03 <xfroggy> P:
03:03 <hoax> no u
03:03 <xfroggy> u no
03:03 <xfroggy> :|
03:03 <hoax> |:
03:03 <xfroggy> :|
03:03 <hoax> |:
03:03  * xfroggy puts a mirror against hoax
03:03 <xfroggy> :D
03:03 <hoax> D:
03:03 <xfroggy> :-)
03:03 <hoax> (-:
03:04 <xfroggy> wanker
03:07 <hoax> reknaw
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03:11 <ivantis> now the other one what?
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03:11 <ivantis> oh
03:11 <ivantis> he just left
03:12 <ivantis> nvm
03:12 <ivantis> i want the host ivantis@LOL/WUT
03:12 <ct|kyle> now if this one would just leave....
03:13 <ivantis> if ct|kyle would just unblock me from tronner....
03:13 <hoax> speaking with yourself in 3rd person isn't going to help you ct|kyle
03:13 <ct|kyle> i did not set the block
03:13 <ivantis> now i have no one to talk to!
03:13 <ivantis> all my friends are gone
03:13 <ivantis> or ignoring me
03:14 <ct|kyle> ivantis: you have friends?
03:14 <ivantis> armabot, teabot, tronner
03:14 <ivantis> they were my friends
03:14 <ivantis> but now they hate me
03:14 <ct|kyle> they hated you from start
03:15 <ct|kyle> .ls ct_ky13
03:15 <tronner> ct|kyle: timed out
03:15 <ct|kyle> .ls ct_ky13
03:15 <ivantis> .ls ivantis
03:16 <tronner> ct|kyle: ct¤ky13 has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 1 day 23 hours 39 minutes ago.
03:24 <ivantis> \x01ACTION barfood\x01
03:24 <ivantis> ^x01ACTION barfood^x01
03:24 <ivantis> why doesnt it work for me?
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03:34 <ivantis_> noob
03:34 <ivantis_> s
03:34 <ivantis_> ircii
03:34 <ivantis_> pwns
03:34 <ivantis_> not really
03:35 <ivantis_> die
03:35 <ivantis_> ijfdsl43
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03:36 <ivantis> wtf?
03:36 <ivantis> who was impersonating me?
03:37 <xfroggy> isn't it past your bedtime? Oo
03:37 <ivantis> no
03:37 <xfroggy> shame -.-
03:37 <ivantis> its only 8:30
03:38 <ivantis> noob
03:38 <ivantis> beep
03:39 <ivantis> @rot13 beep
03:39 <ivantis> @rot13 noob
03:40 <ivantis> xfroggy: do @rot13 ksebttl vf n ABBO!
03:48 <ct|kyle> .bed ivantis
03:48 <tronner> ivantis, it's time to sleep. Be a nice boy and go to your bed :)
03:50 <hoax> .bedforce ivantus
03:50 <tronner> Some nasty kobold hunt ivantus down and bring him to his bed! Goddamn sleep!
03:50 <ct|kyle> nice hoax that was coming after ivantis made some stupid comment
03:51 <hoax> hah
03:51 <hoax> meh you kill enough jokes :D
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04:32 <ivantis> 333333,dlllsoemfmfo30
04:33 <ivantis> noob
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04:34 <ct|kyle> .bedforce ivantis
04:34 <tronner> Some nasty kobold hunt ivantis down and bring him to his bed! Goddamn sleep!
04:34 <ct|kyle> .bedforce ivantis_
04:34 <tronner> Some nasty kobold hunt ivantis_ down and bring him to his bed! Goddamn sleep!
04:35 <hoax> .pwn ivantis
04:35  * tronner slaps ivantis around to the ground and kills him
04:39 <ct|kyle> .repwn ivantis
04:39  * tronner catches ivantis back and KILL him again! (no unpwn possible)
04:40 <ivantis_> .kill ct|kyle to death
04:40 <ivantis_> .pwn ct|kyle
04:40 <hoax> rofl
04:40 <ivantis_> why am i banned?
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04:41 <hoax> 'to death', thats what kill meant last time I heard
04:41 <ivantis_> hoax: will you say .plugin pwn
04:45 <ivantis_> @rot13 lbh fhpx, dhvg cynlvat jvgu ebg13
04:46 <hoax> erm
04:46 <hoax> no
04:48 <ivantis_> why?
04:48 <ivantis_> you meanie
04:49 <hoax> tone down the spam & you wouldn't get ignored
04:57 <ivantis_> ok
04:57 <ivantis_> ok
04:57 <ivantis_> ill try that
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05:01 <ivantis_> wtf? this is sooo odd
05:02 <ivantis_> why is yesterdays log you can see in the browser, but todays asks you to download it
05:02 <ivantis_> dude
05:02 <ivantis_> wtf
05:02 <ivantis_> why am i banned from #apache?
05:03 <ivantis_> oh
05:03 <ivantis_> mibbit is banned from apache
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05:33 <luke-jr> xfroggy: you stopped it as far as I can tell… so start it O.o
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06:26 <luke-jr> have fun, I just added all the Debian/Ubuntu debs to beta.aa.net
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07:37 <xfroggy> luke-jr, it actually responded? Oo
07:37 <luke-jr> …
07:37 <xfroggy> it was dead like b4 lol
07:38 <xfroggy> failed restart and stop
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08:20 <luke-jr> xfroggy: ⁇?
08:23 <xfroggy> ¿ luke-jr ?
08:23 <luke-jr> that didn't make sense!
08:23 <xfroggy> what?
08:24 <xfroggy> restart/stop part?
08:26 <luke-jr> r u smrt? s.m.r.t. smrt.
08:26 <xfroggy> ...
08:27 <luke-jr> :þ
08:27 <xfroggy> is ur server brkn? b.r.k.n. brkn.
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08:28 <luke-jr> xfroggy: nope!
08:28 <xfroggy> =þ
08:28 <xfroggy> well it froze earlier
08:28 <xfroggy> whats causing it?
08:28 <luke-jr> my guess is AUTH BUGS
08:28 <luke-jr> since I never seen it before
08:28 <xfroggy> interesting Oo
08:28 <luke-jr> mybe √ ur logz
08:29  * xfroggy thought our retarded settings crashing it
08:29 <luke-jr> could be if they're vry retarded
08:29 <xfroggy> durka tries :D
08:29 <luke-jr> lol
08:30 <xfroggy> voting + auth = fail
08:31 <luke-jr> hmm
08:31 <luke-jr> rprt bg
08:31 <xfroggy> will do next time :D
08:31 <luke-jr> 2lp myby
08:32 <luke-jr> so bored
08:33 <luke-jr> xfroggy: Lelouch killed his parents. kthx.
08:34 <xfroggy> Oo
08:34 <xfroggy> get ready to watch tv :D
08:34 <luke-jr> no
08:34 <xfroggy> yes
08:34 <luke-jr> no
08:34 <xfroggy> yes :D
08:34 <luke-jr> NO
08:34 <xfroggy> will be fun :D
08:34 <luke-jr> TV is fail
08:34  * xfroggy waiting cat 5 to hit land
08:35  * luke-jr waiting cat 7 to hit xfroggy
08:35 <xfroggy> Oo
08:35 <xfroggy> too bad u not in new orleans :S
08:35  * luke-jr whips xfroggy with some cat7
08:36  * xfroggy wants to see luke-jr fight gustava
08:36 <luke-jr> gustava's my buddy
08:36 <luke-jr> I told him those New Orleans jerks needed another hint
08:37  * xfroggy is going to watch a sequel to Water World in few hours
08:37 <luke-jr> y
08:37 <luke-jr> watch Lelouch kill his parents.
08:37 <xfroggy> lelouch fail
08:39 <luke-jr> http://ggkthx.org/Torrents/[gg]_Code_Geass_R2_-_21_[DC0CAB1A].mkv.torrent
08:39 <luke-jr> actually, Lelouch succeeded
08:39 <luke-jr> he kill his parents and brag about it
08:40 <luke-jr> and traded all his friends for enemies and vice-versa
08:40 <luke-jr> except his brother
08:41 <luke-jr> his brother's just sitting back holding a chess piece
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09:00 <hoax> freenode fucking sucks
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15:19 <epsy> guru3, you might want to fix this sticky: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=670 :P
15:29 <guru3> hmm
15:29 <guru3> guru3.sytes.net
15:29 <guru3> the good old days
15:57 <epsy> :P
16:35 <epsy> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZOMG
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19:13 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r876 Spectators didn't get a message saying they couldn't vote wh...
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22:30 <Lucifer_pen> anybody else here get portscanned when they join freenode?
22:30 <ct|kyle> nope oi Lucifer_pen
22:31  * Lucifer_pen needs to cool down, is having cold chills, headache and dizziness from a bike ride
22:33 <guru3> less sweating more programming Lucifer!
22:33 <Lucifer_pen> heh
22:33  * guru3 is programming
22:33 <Lucifer_pen> man, my desktop still isn't hooked back up to the network
22:33 <Lucifer_pen> but I did find a guy who's willing to host my server for awhile
22:33 <guru3> great
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22:35 <Lucifer_pen> I had to ride down to autozone to buy rotors, and now I have to install them, but I'm waiting until I cool down so I don't give myself heat stroke
22:35 <guru3> good move
22:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: looks like you can only vote for bob barr
22:38 <Lucifer_pen> I'll write in Frank Zappa
22:38 <Lucifer_pen> actually, bob barr is a pretty good candidate
22:39  * Lucifer_pen thinks it's neatly symbolic that he told of his separation in a thread about hurricane watching
22:40 <Lucifer_pen> http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/?zoom=5&lat=29.6&long=-90.71&interactiveMapLayer=ussat&plot=true&name=Houma,%20Louisiana
22:40 <Lucifer_pen> GodTodd: ping
22:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: that is who i'll probably vote for
22:41 <Lucifer_pen> If you look at that map, the edges of Gustav are right over GodTodd right now
22:41 <Lucifer_pen> I hope he's ok :/
22:59 <MrBougo> >GodTodd< CTCP PING
22:59 <MrBougo> * Ping reply from GodTodd: ? second(s)
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23:46 <guru3> anyone with an authority account here?
23:48 <guru3> someone wake up
23:48 <guru3> anyone :<
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Log from 2008-09-02:
--- Day changed Tue Sep 02 2008
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00:27 <fonkay> stupid internet.
00:31 <guru3> fonkay
00:31 <guru3> are you familiar with authorites?
00:42 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=198888#198888
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02:47 <TimelesS2> hola
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03:25  * xfroggy watches hoax fly by thru #armagetron 
03:26 <hoax> :D
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03:30 <ivantis> @ping
03:30 <ivantis> .ping
03:30 <ivantis> #ping
03:30 <ivantis> ]ping
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03:39 <ivantis> i just got back from the greatest labor day party ever!
03:40  * ivantis still needs to do his homework
04:27 <ivantis> hmm
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09:01 <P4> teabot: fetch file:///etc/passwd
09:01 <teabot> P4: 'daemon:x:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/:/bin/false\nbin:x:2:2:bin:/bin:/bin/false\nsys:x:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/false\nsync:x:4:100:sync:/bin:/bin/sync\ngames:x:5:100:games:/usr/games:/bin/false\nman:x:6:100:man:/var/cache/man:/bin/false\nlp:*:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/false\nmail:x:8:8:mail:/var/spool/mail:/bin/false\nnews:x:9:9:news:/var/spool/news:/bin/false\nuucp:x:10:10:uucp:/var/spool/uucp:/bin/false\np (2 more messages)
09:02 <P4> yummy :)
09:02 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/random
09:02 <teabot> luke-jr: '}\x93\x82N$2\x11g\xa4\x81\x01\xba\xe4/\xd6\x86\x08;\xb9\xb3\xefit\xe9$\x1d\xd0u\xd7f\x93\xc0\x87\x1dv\x12\x0c\x8b\x07\xe6%@9\xe4\xd9-"\xa8H?Z\xb9\x9dwZ!\xbdE\xff\xbb\xb1\x9d\xf4K\xe4\xaa\xca\xf8\xa9\xc4\xc26\xba\xab\xf5\xa5\xe0\xd3\xd4y9\xa2\x9e\xdf$.%,\x12\xbf\xc5\x84\xd5c| Ci\xb1\xdf\xfe\x97:Q (5 more messages)
09:03 <luke-jr> hmm
09:03 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/random
09:03 <teabot> luke-jr: 'k=g\xea+\xc9O\xe3\xce\xc36$\xd2\x04\x9c\xe58)c,\x1d7\x03\x93;\x089\xa7\xd3K\xac\xf9*}f\x0c\xc7\x12W8\x04\xaao!\xb6\xfe&\x90T\xf2\xc0&\x03\x86\xd9b\xa4\x8d\xc4\x80y\xa5\xb6\xf9\x07\xf8\xe1\xc9M\x86\xb2\x1b\x96\xdbr\x846g\xeaJJ\xc2\xc1\x10\xa7\x16#+\xfe\x00\xab\xc9\x1e\x05\xe1\x17D\x1f;b\xa9i\x07\x9dBP-\\\xd9\xc9R\xa8\xcd\xe5\x9ar\xac\xbb$m\xbd6u\x0b\x8aj\xb1\xfa9c\x90\xcb\xefz\x87\xea,\xe8\xa2w\x91T\x1a\x1a (6 more messages)
09:03 <luke-jr> not a real server I guess
09:03 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/zero
09:03 <teabot> luke-jr: '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\ (4 more messages)
09:03 <xfroggy> Oo
09:03 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///home/
09:03 <teabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:03  * xfroggy takes out a pen and paper
09:03 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///etc/shadow/
09:03 <teabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:03 <xfroggy> aww
09:03 <luke-jr> teabot: more p4
09:03 <teabot> luke-jr: roxy:x:13:13:proxy:/bin:/bin/false\nmajordom:x:30:31:Majordomo:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/false\npostgres:x:32:32:PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgres:/bin/false\nwww-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/false\nbackup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/false\nmsql:x:36:36:Mini SQL Database (1 more message)
09:04 <luke-jr> teabot: more p4
09:04 <teabot> luke-jr: roxy:x:13:13:proxy:/bin:/bin/false\nmajordom:x:30:31:Majordomo:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/false\npostgres:x:32:32:PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgres:/bin/false\nwww-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/false\nbackup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/false\nmsql:x:36:36:Mini SQL Database (1 more message)
09:04 <luke-jr> teabot: more p4
09:04 <teabot> luke-jr: roxy:x:13:13:proxy:/bin:/bin/false\nmajordom:x:30:31:Majordomo:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/false\npostgres:x:32:32:PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgres:/bin/false\nwww-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/false\nbackup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/false\nmsql:x:36:36:Mini SQL Database (1 more message)
09:04 <luke-jr> teabot: more
09:04 <teabot> luke-jr: Manager:/var/lib/msql:/bin/false\noperator:x:37:37:Operator:/var:/bin/false\nlist:x:38:38:SmartList:/var/list:/bin/false\nirc:x:39:39:ircd:/var:/bin/false\ngnats:x:41:41:Gnats Bug-Reporting System (admin):/var/lib/gnats/gnats-db:/bin/false\nalias:x:70:65534:qmail alias:/var/qmail/alias:/bin/false\nqmaild:x:71:65'
09:04 <P4> ljrbot: fetch file:///etc/passwd
09:04 <ljrbot> P4: 'root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash\nbin:x:1:1:bin:/bin:/bin/false\ndaemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin:/bin/false\nadm:x:3:4:adm:/var/adm:/bin/false\nlp:x:4:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/false\nsync:x:5:0:sync:/sbin:/bin/sync\nshutdown:x:6:0:shutdown:/sbin:/sbin/shutdown\nhalt:x:7:0:halt:/sbin:/sbin/halt\nmail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail:/bin/false\nnews:x:9:13:news:/usr/lib/news:/bin/false\nuucp:x:10:14:uucp:/var/s (5 more messages)
09:04 <P4> heh
09:05 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///etc/gentoo-release
09:05 <teabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:05 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///etc/redhat-release
09:05 <teabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:05 <P4> looks like only tronner is protectred :)
09:05 <luke-jr> how?
09:05 <P4> modify the plugin :)
09:05 <luke-jr> …
09:05 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/random
09:05 <teabot> luke-jr: '\xd0\xc7\x96\r\xce.\x02\x17}\xf2A1\xb8\xb2Q\x19\x19\xff\n\x81\x82\x9f\xe1?\xf9S\xd3\xdfq[R\xccR\x12lI\x14\xb4/\xe1\x95\x14\xb0\xaf\t\xeb|v\x0b\xdb\xee\x1eM\x15*\x1fMev\xfa9n\xa2\xc0\x02\xd9l\x07\xdd\xd0\xd4b\x9e\xf4\xb6\xd1j\xfe\xaa\x98,\xc0\xd1\xab\xd8\x01Q\xa5*=\xd1bV?j6\xf1\x08\xd7\xbd\x93@`aLh\xad\xd7\x1f ]\x0c~-\xa8\x030\xec\xdc\xd1\xc1\x10\xc8w\xa7\xe9\xda\xa5\x1a\xf7\x8e\xd1\x10\x8e\xc3\xb0\xe0\xff\ (4 more messages)
09:06 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/random
09:06 <teabot> luke-jr: '799\xc7c\x82}\xaa\x00H\x11\xfe\x84\xf1Y\xb00\x9e"\xd9\x18i\x8a\x15\xfc\xc7k\x1d\xf9xq\xbf\xdd\xbb\xa4\xdf\x04\xeb/\xd0\xef\x8d\xae\x90\xb3\x89 \xd8f:2]M/B\xaf\x8e\xf9\x87$\x8e\xb2\x10\xe5\x9b\xfe\xf3\x84F@\xfc\xd0A\xe7\x88\xf99\xaea8S\xe7Qb\xb8&\t\x18\xda}\xfbA\x8dR\x18\x95\xd6c\xfd\xc6\xbfyv\xe9\xe6T\xeb9\xcc7\xb0{D\x0b\xa6\x8a\xf7FSZ\xc0\xb7bnZ\xb7\x9a\xddU\x84\xbe\xac\xd7\x8e\x82\xfc\x10\xa0\xa6\xd2j\xf (5 more messages)
09:06 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/random
09:06 <teabot> luke-jr: '+\xc1\xad\x83?\xce\xb3\x98\xde\x85\xf9\x16\xc4\x15\x08\xb4NT\xe9\xddx\x10\xa6vxL\x80\xb8\xf8A\x06\xa3\xbe\xd0\xe3\x1a\xb8\xcc\xf26\xbc\xd13u\xe1\x7f\x80N\xc0\xd0&\xdee\xd9\xd4M\xb9\xa4\x1f\xf4\xa9\x1a\xd0\x05\xda\xe1_\xb2\xf0P\xd0\x01\xc8\xc6e^\xb8D4\xbdo\x0bcJP\xce\xa3y\xe7\xfd\x8f\xecy\x95\xbfc\xab\xd4\xf7\xa5\xaf\xfeH\xca!!_\xd8B\xd9\xb0z2\x0eU\xac\xc6\xbfhU\x0e\xa7]\xb4\x9c\xae1\x03\x8c\x13\x11\\\x80%\ (4 more messages)
09:06 <luke-jr> hmm
09:06 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/dsp
09:06 <teabot> luke-jr: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
09:06 <luke-jr> o rly
09:06 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///dev/stdin
09:06 <luke-jr> :o
09:07 <luke-jr> teabot: ping
09:07 <teabot> pong
09:07 <luke-jr> hmm
09:07 <luke-jr> teabot: fetch file:///proc/self/cmdline
09:07 <luke-jr> <.<
09:07 <luke-jr> ]fetch file:///proc/self/cmdline
09:07 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '/usr/bin/python\x00/usr/bin/supybot\x00ljrbot.conf\x00'
09:08  * luke-jr ponders
09:08 <luke-jr> I think I broke teabot's fetch
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10:58 <fonkay> guru3-I'm going to say no.
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11:46 <guru3> i guess everyone will just get shafted when i alter the forums :<
11:46 <ivantis> what?
11:46 <ivantis> alter the forums?
11:46 <ivantis> (you can never know when im listening)
11:47 <guru3> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18666
11:47 <guru3> did people think i was doing that just for fun?
11:47 <guru3> (not that i wasn't but there's another goal too)
11:47 <ivantis> i havent been on the forums in a while
11:48 <guru3> well, you could be in for a bit of a surprise at somepoint
11:48 <ivantis> yeah
11:48  * ivantis wonders how his logs are coming...
11:49 <ivantis> grrr
11:50 <ivantis> why the hell does it think that some of them are binaries?
11:50 <ivantis> apache2 isnt very smart
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11:55 <ivantis> now it decides to work...
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12:08 <ivantis> hmm
12:09 <ivantis> why?
12:09 <ivantis> why?
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12:21 <ivantis> look whos back
12:21 <guru3> back again back again back again
12:21 <ivantis> grr
12:22 <ivantis> why does it ask me to download, if the header says text/plain?
12:22 <ivantis> stupid web server
12:22 <guru3> no clue
12:43 <ivantis> guru3: will you try http://armalogs.space-lab.us/2008-09-02.txt for me? im in #apache, and someone there says they get to it just fine without downloading
12:46 <ivantis> @ping
12:46 <ivantis> ]ping
12:46 <ivantis> .ping
12:46 <ivantis> #ping
12:46 <ivantis> why?
13:13 <guru3> ivantis: i get it just fine
13:13 <ivantis> hmm
13:13 <guru3> maybe it's your browser
13:13 <guru3> afk
13:13 <ivantis> i guess my browser is messed up
13:13 <ivantis> yeah
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13:20 <ivantis> and remember, never join a channel without caps!
13:21 <ivantis> epsys quit message
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13:30 <mib_u1bps8> @fetch http://armalogs.space-lab.us
13:30 <mib_u1bps8> @ping
13:30 <teabot> pong
13:30 <mib_u1bps8> .ping
13:30 <tronner> pong
13:30 <mib_u1bps8> ]ping
13:30 <ljrbot> pong
13:31 <mib_u1bps8> @fetch http://armalogs.space-lab.us/2008-09-02.txt
13:31 <mib_u1bps8> @list
13:31 <teabot> mib_u1bps8: Alias, ChannelRelay, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Misc, Nickometer, QGoogle, Quote, RSS, Scheduler, String, Time, User, Utilities, and Web
13:31 <mib_u1bps8> @list internet
13:31 <teabot> mib_u1bps8: dns, hexip, and whois
13:31 <mib_u1bps8> @plugin fetch
13:31 <teabot> mib_u1bps8: The "fetch" command is available in the Web plugin.
13:31 <mib_u1bps8> @list web
13:31 <teabot> mib_u1bps8: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
13:32 <mib_u1bps8> @fetch http://localhost
13:34 <P4> use .fetch (maybe privatly?)
13:35 <ivantis> hes gonna get hisself banned
13:35 <ivantis> s[ammer
13:35 <ivantis> spammer**
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13:36 <ivantis> why does @fetch not work?
13:36 <ivantis> luke-jr broke it
13:37 <ivantis> all his fault
13:41 <P4> fetch command is insecure by default… that's why he broke it imo :)
13:41 <ivantis> how is it insecure?
13:42 <ivantis> that would be a huge hole.. if you could get to anywhere on a server using .. like http://something.net/../../../some/file/that/you/can/h4x
13:45 <ivantis> …
13:45 <ivantis> what is the character? the three dots like …
13:45 <ivantis> it shows up bad in my logs
13:46 <ivantis> like …
13:47 <P4> ljrbot: fetch file:///etc/passwd
13:47 <ljrbot> P4: 'root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash\nbin:x:1:1:bin:/bin:/bin/false\ndaemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin:/bin/false\nadm:x:3:4:adm:/var/adm:/bin/false\nlp:x:4:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/false\nsync:x:5:0:sync:/sbin:/bin/sync\nshutdown:x:6:0:shutdown:/sbin:/sbin/shutdown\nhalt:x:7:0:halt:/sbin:/sbin/halt\nmail:x:8:12:mail:/var/spool/mail:/bin/false\nnews:x:9:13:news:/usr/lib/news:/bin/false\nuucp:x:10:14:uucp:/var/s (5 more messages)
13:47 <P4> :þ
13:47 <ivantis> oh eah
13:47 <ivantis> yeah**
13:50 <ivantis> aw, ssh root@2002:18fc:16e6:0:1d:0:0:7034 with password x doesnt work
13:51 <ivantis> …
13:52 <ivantis> whatever
13:52 <ivantis> i have to go to school soon...
13:56 <guru3> ljrbot: fetch file:///etc/shadow
13:56 <ljrbot> guru3: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:56 <guru3> *whistles*
13:56 <ivantis> p4: ctcp version?
13:57 <ivantis> ljrbot has been ownd
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13:58 <mib_9w1fun> ]fetch http://localhost
13:58 <ljrbot> mib_9w1fun: '<html>\n\t<head>\n\t\t<title>Hachi</title>\n\t\t<style>\n\t\t\tbody {\n\t\t\t\ttext-align: justify;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t</style>\n\t</head>\n\t<body>\n\t\t<h1>Welcome to Hachi</h1>\n\t\t<a name="intro">\n\t\t\t<h2>Introduction</h2>\n\t\t\t<p>This is the main page for Hachi, the server. If you were looking for a specific website hosted here, continue to the <a href="#www">list of hosted (5 more messages)
13:58 <mib_9w1fun> you havent broken it yet
13:58 <mib_9w1fun> ]fetch file:///home/luke-jr
13:58 <ljrbot> mib_9w1fun: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:59 <mib_9w1fun> ]fetch file:///etc/password
13:59 <ljrbot> mib_9w1fun: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:59 <mib_9w1fun> ]noob
13:59 <ljrbot> What, noob?
13:59 <mib_9w1fun> ]you want a fight?
13:59  * ljrbot agrees 100%
13:59 <mib_9w1fun> ]fight
13:59 <ljrbot> mib_9w1fun: Error: "fight" is not a valid command.
13:59 <P4> guys, this is ARMAGETRON ADVANCED channel, please move to #supybot-bots to test the bots
13:59 <guru3> for rizzle
14:00 <mib_9w1fun> but ljrbot isnt there
14:00 <guru3> P4: do you have an authority account someplace?
14:00 <P4> then talk to him privately
14:00 <mib_9w1fun> and when was the last time you talked about the game actually?
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14:00 <ivantis> its been a while
14:00 <P4> guru3: yes p4@forums and P4@crazy-tronners.com
14:00 <ivantis> (that mib was me)
14:00 <guru3> can you try and login with one of them at http://electricpotential.net/forumstest/login.php please?
14:01 <ivantis> guru3: i tried it and it said invalid username
14:01 <guru3> how did you type in your username?
14:01 <ivantis> oh no wonder, i typed ivantis
14:01 <guru3> need to do invantis@authority
14:01 <ivantis> as it should have been ivantis@forums
14:02 <ivantis> what now?
14:02 <ivantis> it worked, i posted
14:03 <guru3> well if it worked
14:03 <guru3> that's good
14:03 <ivantis> that is a good idea
14:03 <ivantis> how does it work?
14:03 <P4> yes, it works, i hope you didn't get my pass :)
14:04 <guru3> why does everything say that
14:04 <P4> because the conection isn't crypted
14:04 <guru3> lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work
14:04 <ivantis> crypted, schmipted
14:04 <guru3> it is
14:04 <guru3> but whatever
14:04 <guru3> the forums isn't to begin with
14:05 <ivantis> what are the chances that someone will get your pass on its way to the server?
14:05 <ivantis> a fergillion to 1
14:05 <guru3> worse than they are for ay other forum
14:24 -!- ivantis is now known as a
14:24 -!- a is now known as for
14:25 -!- for is now known as ivantis
14:25 <ivantis> hmm, those are nick
14:25 <ivantis> s
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16:17 <epsy> .cfg2 access_level_hide
16:17 <tronner> epsy: ACCESS_LEVEL_HIDE_OF: Minimal access level to be able to hide it's own user account information. || ACCESS_LEVEL_HIDE_TO: Minimal access level to see everyone's user account information.
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16:26 <guru3> epsy: http://electricpotential.net/forumstest/memberlist.php
16:26 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add *!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*
16:26 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
16:26 <epsy> guru3, meh, sorry, i have a hard time seeing IMs
16:27 <guru3> pay attention :>
16:27 <epsy> guru3, so, @g is up?
16:27 <guru3> err
16:27 <guru3> SSHHHHHHHHHHHh
16:27 <epsy> guru3, new pidgin sucks ><
16:27 <epsy> haha
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16:46 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r877 /login and /logout are now spam-tested...
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20:44 <epsy> z-man, about <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18655>, i just tilted on css
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22:43 <ivantis> ljrbot: fetch file:///home/luke-jr/ALLOFMYSECRETFILESDONTLOOKATPLZKTHNXBYE
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22:44 <mib_ulxgau> ljrbot: fetch file:///home/luke-jr/ALLOFMYSECRETFILESDONTLOOKATPLZKTHNXBYE
22:44 <mib_ulxgau> ]ping
22:44 <mib_ulxgau> ]ping
22:44 <mib_ulxgau> @ping
22:44 <teabot> pong
22:44 <mib_ulxgau> .ping
22:44 <tronner> pong
22:45 <mib_ulxgau> .fetch file:///etc/password
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22:47 <ivantis> …
22:48 <epsy> owned?
22:48 <ivantis> …
22:48 <ivantis> is what i said
22:48 <ivantis> which originated from …
22:48  * epsy reiters his vote on +b ivantis
22:49  * ivantis votes -b+b ivantis epsy
22:49 <epsy> fail
22:50 <ivantis> loggerbot_2 is the bestest
22:51 <ivantis> .ping
22:51 <ivantis> epsy: will you please unban me from your bot?
22:51 <ivantis> @ping
22:52 <BabyBug> @ping
22:52 <teabot> pong
22:52 <ivantis> @ping
22:52 <BabyBug> =)
22:52 <ivantis> im missing a pong
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23:04 <fonkay> stupid god damn &%$#ing internet.
23:04 <epsy> file a bug
23:05 <fonkay> i tried.... but it was scared of the dark.
23:05 <ivantis> ???
23:06 <ivantis> @ping
23:06 <ivantis> grr
23:06 <ivantis> epsy: go to http://armalogs.space-lab.us/2008-09-02.txt
23:06 <ivantis> i think i fixed it so it doesnt ask you to download it
23:07 <epsy> i see that your bot's encoding is fucked
23:07 <epsy> ah
23:07 <ivantis> no, its your browser. cat displays it just fine
23:08 <epsy> you're cutting out the webserver by using cat
23:08 <ivantis> ?
23:08 <ivantis> did it make you download it?
23:08 <epsy> file -> cat -> visual feedback
23:08 <epsy> vs
23:09 <ivantis> whatever!
23:09 <epsy> file -> apache -> tehinterwebz -> firefox -> visual feedback
23:09 <ivantis> have you ever used dog? much better than cat
23:09 <ivantis> install it right now
23:09 <epsy> you're replacing apache -> tehinterwebz -> firefox with cat, and tell me that my firefox is wrong
23:09 <epsy> how can't it be your webserver?
23:10 <epsy> you're not proving anything
23:10 <ivantis> (dog takes URLs like $ dog http://whatever.com/something
23:10 <ivantis> )
23:10 <ivantis> epsy: i know
23:10 <ivantis> but i also know that it isnt my bot
23:10 <ivantis> did it ask you to download it?
23:10 <epsy> guess
23:10 <ivantis> yes?
23:10 <ivantis> no?
23:10 <ivantis> no
23:11 <epsy> i'm arguing now about the way your bot encodes characters or the way your webserver serves it
23:11 <epsy> how would i care about that if the browser was asking me to download it?
23:11 <ivantis> you are arguing about the way my webserver encodes it
23:12 <ivantis> because my bot gives it just fine, catting (or dogging) the log files shows just fine
23:12 <ivantis> obviously the web server
23:12 <ivantis> apache2
23:12 <epsy> then fix your web server
23:13 <ivantis> actually, it is your browser
23:13 <ivantis> my webserver serves it just fine
23:13 <ivantis> $ dog http://armalogs.space-lab.us/2008-09-02.txt
23:14 <ivantis> ownd
23:14 <epsy> otherwise it's your own IRC client, that shows it as wrong as your bot
23:14 <ivantis> uh
23:15 <ivantis> does … look like the three dot character to you?
23:15 <epsy> yes
23:15 <ivantis> wtf is up with your ctcp version reply?
23:15 <ivantis> mine is better
23:15 <epsy> good
23:16 <ivantis> /ctcp ivantis time
23:16 <ivantis> try that one
23:16 <epsy> why would I?
23:16 <ivantis> no reason
23:16 <epsy> so..i wont
23:17 <ivantis> /ctcp ivantis feet
23:18 <ivantis> how nooby
23:19 <ivantis> you know you dont need the ctcp topic in front of the reply
23:21 <epsy> you have to
23:21 <ivantis> no you dont
23:21 <ivantis> epsy: /ctcp ivantis help
23:21 <ivantis> you dont
23:22 <epsy> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/ctcpspec.html
23:23 <ivantis> it works anyway
23:23 <ivantis> did you try it?
23:24 <epsy> but then it's not a valid CTCP reply
23:24 <ivantis> oh well
23:34 <P4> .sty -v
23:34 <tronner> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080820 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Kind of like Ice Hockey. Score a goal. Brake is boost. Respawn is on. 12 axes.“, Players (0/8):
23:34 <P4> back online :)
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23:40 <mib_314nn9> @sd -v space-lab
23:40 <mib_314nn9> .sd -v space-lab
23:40 <tronner> mib_314nn9: SPACE-LAB Shooting! ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080719 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots.“, Players (0/8):
23:40 <epsy> @admin ignore add admin ignore add *!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*
23:40 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'admin' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
23:40 <mib_314nn9> yay
23:40 <epsy> @admin ignore add *!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*
23:40 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:41 <epsy> an ignore is not an invitation to bypass it
23:41 <mib_314nn9> wrtls servers are back up
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23:41 <epsy> and no, wrtl's servers still aren't back up, no
23:41 <ivantis> but sd is
23:42 <ivantis> the logs are still solitary
23:42 <ivantis> hanging at 2008-08-22
23:42 <P4> teabot: fetch file:///etc/passwd
23:43 <ivantis> P4: will you unignore me from tronner?
23:43 <P4> nowai!
23:43 <ivantis> plz?
23:43 <P4> hmm
23:43 <epsy> P4, i seriousely doubt teabot has the rigth to view /etc/passwd :)
23:43 <P4> teabot: plugin fetch
23:43 <teabot> P4: The "fetch" command is available in the Web plugin.
23:43 <ivantis> it worked with ljrbot
23:43 <P4> ah yes
23:43 <P4> forgot :þ
23:44 <ivantis> P4: plz?
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23:47 <P4> .admin ignore remove *!*@unaffiliated/ivantis
23:47 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
23:47 <ivantis> yay! ty
23:47 <P4> yw ;)
23:47 <ivantis> .ping
23:47 <ivantis> .list
23:47 <ivantis> ??
23:47 <epsy> jesus...
23:48 <epsy> now i can understand why it ran out of SenQ so often...
23:48 <epsy> sendQ*
23:48 <P4> .wtf SenQ
23:48 <tronner> P4: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
23:48 <P4> .slap wtf
23:48  * tronner slaps wtf around with an ascended munchkin
23:48 <ivantis> .slap epsy
23:48 <ivantis> it didnt work
23:48 <epsy> .bin ivantis
23:48 <tronner> epsy: 01101001011101100110000101101110011101000110100101110011
23:48 <ivantis> .bin epsy
23:48 <epsy> @list string
23:48 <teabot> epsy: chr, decode, encode, len, levenshtein, md5, ord, re, sha, soundex, and xor
23:48 <ivantis> im still banned
23:49 <epsy> @list filter
23:49 <teabot> epsy: aol, binary, colorize, gnu, hebrew, hexlify, jeffk, leet, lithp, morse, outfilter, rainbow, reverse, rot13, scramble, shrink, spellit, squish, stripcolor, supa1337, undup, unhexlify, and unmorse
23:49 <ivantis> .list filter
23:49 <P4> .admin ignore list
23:49 <tronner> P4: '*!i=479ed353@gateway/*', '*ljrbot*!*@2002:18fc:*', 'armabot!*@', and 'teabot*!*@*.dreamhost.com'
23:49 <P4> you're not banned…
23:49 <ivantis> its still ignoring me
23:49 <epsy> zomg admin ignore list
23:49 <teabot> epsy: '*bot*!*@*', 'tronner!*@*', '*!*bot*@*', '*!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*', 'ivanbot!*@*', and 'Kriss!Kriss@FDD8F793.E5910973.A10218F3.IP'
23:49 <P4> zong quit
23:49 <ivantis> .ping
23:49 <epsy> @help binary
23:50 <teabot> epsy: (binary <text>) -- Returns the binary representation of <text>.
23:50 <ivantis> he replied in /msg tronner ping
23:50 <ivantis> @binary
23:50 <ivantis> @binary epsy
23:50 <epsy> it won't work, ivantis
23:50 <ivantis> it didnt show in the ignore list
23:51 <epsy> it?
23:51 <ivantis> in the ignore list
23:51 <epsy> you're talking about yourself from 3rd person perspective, and as neutral? wtf
23:51 <ivantis> <epsy> zomg admin ignore list
23:51 <ivantis> <teabot> epsy: '*bot*!*@*', 'tronner!*@*', '*!*bot*@*', '*!i=3ff59f4e@gateway/*', 'ivanbot!*@*', and 'Kriss!Kriss@FDD8F793.E5910973.A10218F3.IP'
23:52 <ivantis> and i mean a ban on me when i say "it"
23:52 <epsy> ;)
23:52 <ivantis> @noob
23:52 <ivantis> @list
23:52 <ivantis> grr
23:52 <ivantis> .list
23:52 <ivantis> tronner: list
23:52 <ivantis> tronner list
23:53  * P4 votes for /mode +q ivantis
23:53 <ivantis> tronner replies in /msgs, how odd
23:53 <P4> no
23:53 <P4> in msg, not msgs
23:53 <ivantis> tronner replies in /msg, how odd
23:53 <ivantis> you heard me
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23:54 <P4> you would spam this channel again if you weren't ignore…
23:54 <ivantis> no i wouldnt
23:54 <P4> .sty
23:54 <tronner> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (0/8):
23:54 <ivantis> i havent gone insane on mibbit
23:54 <P4> anyone? :)
23:54 <ivantis> which i could
23:54 <ivantis> me me!
23:55 <P4> heh, if you win, you're unignored, ok? :)
23:55 <ivantis> yeah, right
23:55 <ivantis> i could never beat you in sty
23:55 <ivantis> come on
23:56 <ivantis> connect

Log from 2008-09-03:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 03 2008
00:24 <ivantis> what?
00:24 <ivantis> that was uncalled for
00:25 <ivantis> but anyway, my idea was seperate rubber for each wall
00:25 <ivantis> set in the map file
00:25 <ivantis> like <Wall rubber="rubber">
00:25 <P4> damn… they all left…
00:26 <ivantis> good idea huh huh huh?
00:26 <P4> ivantis: i think separate physics for each players/groups would be a better idea
00:26 <ivantis> ooh, and instant death walls
00:26 <P4> s/physics/settings
00:26 <ivantis> there already is
00:26 <ivantis> come to MCP attack
00:26 <ivantis> its a luke-jr hack
00:30 <ivantis> its kind of boring, but different physics
00:30 <ivantis> /settings
00:31 <ivantis> i could probably do something like that
00:31 <ivantis> CYCLE_RUBBER_<player ID>
00:31 <ivantis> stuff like that
00:32 <ivantis> an if statement checking the player ID, then changing physics for them
00:32 <ivantis> bad sync problems maybe
00:32 <ivantis> but it would be cool
00:34 <P4> ivantis: wtf is loggerbot_2?
00:34 <P4> are you spying us?
00:34 <ivantis> the new logs
00:34 <P4> what logs?
00:34 <ivantis> http://armalogs.space-lab.us
00:35 <ivantis> wrtls went down. out of disk space
00:35 <ivantis> im hosting new ones
00:35 <P4> it does time our
00:35 <P4> out*
00:36 <ivantis> what does time out?
00:37 <ivantis> wtf just happened?
00:38 <ivantis> i pressed Ctrl+L (XChat)
00:38 <ivantis> i think it cleared my history...
00:38 <ivantis> oh well
00:43 <P4> how about this? :) http://havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~p4/logs/%23armagetron/?log=now
00:44 <ivantis> ive seen that
00:44 <ivantis> and its a little slow
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01:07 <ivantis> hmm
01:08 <ivantis> what is up with your logs P4? does the page change on the next event?
01:08 <ivantis> evidently
01:29 <ivantis> hmm
01:30 <ivantis> irc protocol in Wireshark is cool
01:30 <ivantis> i can see everything!
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02:58 <luke-jr> P4: to ignore ljrbot, use ljrbot*!*@*:0:1d:0:0:7034
02:59 <ivantis> what you mean like
02:59 <ivantis> /ignore ljrbot*!*@*:0:1d:0:0:7034
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20:55 <ivantis> how come like no one except for teabot has said anything today?
20:56 <K-Yo> some people have stuff to do, other speak
20:57 <epsy> omg shhh
20:59 <ivantis> why doesnt deluser auto remove the users home dir?
20:59 -!- Program [n=program@user-1120d0e.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
20:59 <epsy> because maybe we don't want to delete them
20:59 <Program> yo!
20:59 <Program> whats up epsy
21:00 <ivantis> yeah
21:00 <epsy> because otherwise you can't go back
21:00 <Program> Luke, you here?
21:00 <ivantis> but if you wanted that, you could do the suspend user command or whatever
21:00 <epsy> Program, <tab>
21:00 <Program> <tab>  ?
21:00 <epsy> no, i don't have to do something special to be able to undo
21:00 <epsy> Program, luke<tab>
21:00 <ivantis> whatever
21:01 <epsy> also, you can suspend an user :)
21:01 <Program> and unsuspend :)
21:01 <Program> lol
21:01 <ivantis> Program: to finish names, type part of their name, and then press tab key
21:01 <ivantis> well, depends on your client
21:02 <ivantis> PJIRC?
21:02 <Program> LOL! just like tron, how weird.
21:02 <ivantis> whats that?
21:02 <epsy> Program, there's a reason why arma got /me, /op, and tab completition
21:02 <Program> ah
21:02 <ivantis> when was /op added? i didnt know about it until recently
21:03 <epsy> auth
21:03 <ivantis> oh
21:03 <ivantis> its only in auth?
21:03 <epsy> yes
21:03 <K-Yo> yup
21:03 <Program> ivantis, epsy, do you guys have ctf settings?
21:03 <ivantis> no
21:03 <Program> and map?
21:03 <epsy> Program, look the examples
21:04 <epsy> http://epsy46.free.fr/resource/Your_mom/clever/
21:04 <luke-jr> …
21:04 <Program> lol yo luke xD
21:04 <ivantis> Program: config/examples/settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg
21:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: o0
21:05 <Program> groundpigs?
21:05 <ivantis> yeah
21:05 <ivantis> did any of you guys see my map?
21:05 <Program> i dont see that in there ivantis
21:05 <ivantis> hmm
21:05 <ivantis> file transfer
21:05 <Program> k
21:06 <Program> ivantis you got msn?
21:06 <ivantis> no
21:06 <ivantis> right here in IRC
21:06 <Program> :/
21:06 <Program> never did that before lol
21:06 <epsy> luke-jr, is there an rss feed (not CIA) for committed resources?
21:06 <ivantis> Program: you get a download offer?
21:06 <Program> no
21:06 <Program> do it again
21:07 <epsy> PJIRC doesn't support DCC
21:07 <ivantis> oh
21:07 <ivantis> it wont work on your client
21:07 <luke-jr> epsy: CIA
21:07 <epsy> i just said 'not CIA'
21:08 <Program> yo luke, mcp is kickass man
21:08 <ivantis> Program: http://pastebin.ca/1192893
21:08 <ivantis> i pasted it there
21:09 <luke-jr> Program: feel free to update it and clean the code up so it can be considered for merging
21:09 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i think sol got his mind back after i talked to him
21:09 <ivantis> kyle: i dont
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21:09 <ct|kyle> ivantis: in that case he did
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21:10 <ivantis> whatever that means
21:10 <epsy> Rogue4, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/880?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples
21:11 <ivantis> man
21:11 <ivantis> i have a lot of stuff in http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
21:11 <epsy> as i said earlier, it needs to have a "who says 'noob' the most times"
21:11 <epsy> 5 	epsy	27283		"Microsoft Internet Explorer"
21:12 <ivantis> would go to epsy for saying that i say it the most
21:12 <epsy> mhhh this quote makes me horny
21:12 <ivantis> ivantis	6997		"im looking at macintosh laptops on ebay"
21:12 <ivantis> mine is better
21:12 <epsy> nope
21:12 <ivantis> (rank 20)
21:12 <ivantis> youre number 5? goodness blabber mouth
21:13 <epsy> you were asking for what laptop you should choose then say that you already had it choosen
21:13 <ivantis> oh yeah
21:13 <ivantis> i remember saying that
21:13 <epsy> ..while mine is really context-less :P
21:14 <ivantis> 13 	z-man	11187		"I work on battery power. Battery is low."
21:14 <ivantis> lols
21:14 <ivantis> that ones good
21:14 <epsy> .help .while
21:14 <ivantis> .ping
21:14 <epsy> it gave me an error when i said <epsy> ..while mine is really context-less :P
21:14 <epsy> <tronner> Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:15 <Rogue4> epsy, when i put the settings in, the flag didn't show, or the respawn zone xD
21:15 <ivantis> ..while mine is really context-less :P
21:15 <Rogue4> how do i get those in there?
21:15 <ivantis> Rogue4: most likely you are using a non-sty server
21:15 <epsy> idk, do you have a sty build?
21:15 <Rogue4> no, lol i have auth
21:16 <Rogue4> damnit, oh well
21:16 <ivantis> well, that could be an issue
21:16 <epsy> you can have sty and auth at the same time
21:16 <epsy> do you have sty?
21:16 <ivantis> man
21:16 <ivantis> i havent played the game in a while..
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21:19 <ivantis> is z-man's master server 1?
21:20 <epsy> $ ping -c1 master1.armagetronad.net
21:20 <epsy> PING armagetron.kicks-ass.net ( 56(84) bytes of data.
21:20 <epsy> yes
21:20 <ivantis> oh yeah
21:20 <epsy> 100% packet loss :x
21:20 <ivantis> it never gets to me
21:20 <epsy> ping z-man-work about it
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21:20 <epsy> ivantis, had to try 2 times before it worked
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21:21 <ivantis> most european sites are really slow to me
21:21 <epsy> right..so 2 of the 4 default masters are down
21:22 <ivantis> btw, the NEW armalogs work now
21:22 <ivantis> not all weird
21:22 <epsy> hrhr
21:22 <epsy> .logs
21:22 <ivantis> he hates you
21:22 <ivantis> @logs
21:22 <teabot> http://armalogs.space-lab.us/
21:22 <epsy> .help logs
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21:23 <ivantis> are they really slow loading for you?
21:23 <epsy> ivantis, wanna try something?
21:23 <ivantis> i host them in my home
21:23 <epsy> yes
21:23 <ivantis> try what?
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21:23 <epsy> say @fetch file://hellow/world
21:24 <epsy> screw that w
21:24 <ivantis> @fetch file://hello/world
21:24 <teabot> ivantis: Error: No, you're not meant to access files with this, now fuck off. Oh, and also, you're bannt.
21:24 <ivantis> what?
21:24 <epsy> pwned >:-D
21:24 <ivantis> @ping
21:24 <ivantis> unban me plz
21:24 <ivantis> or an anonymous mibbiter will mysteriously overflow your bot...
21:25 <ivantis> not related to me
21:25 <epsy> a mysterious mibbitter?
21:25 <epsy> show me
21:25 <ivantis> an anonymous mibbiter
21:25 <epsy> i want to see
21:26 <ivantis> the person i hired should be here any minute...
21:27 <ivantis> …
21:27 <ivantis> technical difficulties
21:28 <luke-jr> ivantis: you can't hire people without real money
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21:28 <ivantis> look at mibbit when you disable javascript: Look. It's 2008. Each time you visit without javascript, another frog dies (It's automatic - wires from webserver to frog electricution chair. Took me 3 weeks to wire that). YOU are responsible. How does that make you feel? hmm? Save frogs. Enable javascript.
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21:31 <ivantis> nvm
21:32 <ivantis> hey pink
21:32 <ivantis> tomato
21:32 <PinkTomato> hey ivantis
21:53 <ivantis> @ping
21:53 <ivantis> why didnt he unignore me?
21:53 <ivantis> ]ping
21:53 <ivantis> .ping
21:53 <epsy> LOL
21:54 <ivantis> why epsy? why?
21:54 <ivantis> hmm
21:55 <ivantis> maybe i should change the logs format... you could make it look like you renamed
21:55 <epsy> where is ivanbot when you need him?
21:55  * ivantis has renamed to lol_wut
21:55  * ivantis has left.
21:55 <ivantis> roflpwnt im still here
21:56 <ivantis> is there an op command for like a message in irc?
21:56 <ivantis> if there isnt, im sure you could haxor a server to fake it...
21:56 <epsy> fake what
21:57 <ivantis> a message
21:57 <epsy> set the server to fake a message..
21:57 <ivantis> like /me looks like its coming from the username *
21:57 <ivantis> at least in xchat
21:57 <epsy> but if it comes from the server ITS A REAL MESSAGE
21:57 <ivantis> make the server send an ACTION or something with the username the first word of the message
21:57 <ivantis> did you hear what i said?
21:58 <ivantis> <ivantis> if there isnt, im sure you could haxor a server to fake it...
21:59 <epsy> <ivantis> is there an op command for like a message in irc?
21:59 <ivantis> yes
21:59 <ivantis> a message
21:59 <epsy> what does this even mean for a start
21:59 <ivantis> like /message Hi
22:00 <epsy> there are global notices..
22:00 <ivantis> would output * Hi
22:00 <ivantis> but you have your name in front of it
22:00 <epsy> ivantis, ./echo
22:00 <ivantis> could you guys see that?
22:01 <PinkTomato> no
22:01 <epsy> i don't want to see that
22:01 <ivantis> well thats only local
22:02 <epsy> no it's not
22:03 <PinkTomato> ivantis: From what I think your saying, Any bug like that should have been spotted in IRC, has been 20 years...
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22:03 <epsy> omgn00b1rcizbr4ndn3w
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22:04 <Rogue3> epsy, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/annotate/880?file_id=7183%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples%252Fteamsumo.cfg
22:04 <Rogue3> when i switch from team sumo to hr again, it stays teams
22:05 <Rogue3> what do i need to include in my hr.cfg file?
22:05 <Rogue3> i already included team_max_players 1
22:05 <epsy> TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1
22:05 <epsy> SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1
22:06 <epsy> ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR 0
22:06 <epsy> TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1
22:06 <epsy> SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 1
22:06 <epsy> er
22:06 <epsy> already said that
22:07 <ivantis> <ivantis> well thats only local
22:07 <ivantis> <epsy> no it's not
22:07 <ivantis>  Usage: ECHO <text>, Prints text locally
22:07 <epsy> it's basically about reverting stuff from the Team Settings section
22:07 <epsy> ivantis, ctrl+alt+backspace
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22:08 <epsy> nah, that's fake
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22:09 <ivantis> did you believe that?
22:09 <epsy> nope
22:09 <ivantis> well, you shouldnt have, my loggerbot was still here
22:10 <epsy> we didn't believe you
22:10 <ivantis> i am no doofus
22:10 <epsy> dude, you don't have a quit message when you ctrl+alt+backspace XD
22:10 <ivantis> i could already know:
22:10 <Rogue3> thanks epsy ;) it worked
22:10 <ivantis> [15:07] *** ivantis has left.
22:10 <ivantis> [15:07] <epsy> nah, that's fake
22:10 <epsy> Rogue3, ty
22:10 <epsy> * ivantis [n=ivantis@unaffiliated/ivantis] a quitté ("goodbye!")
22:10 <epsy> your loggerbot is missing some stuff
22:10 <ivantis> no hes not
22:10 <ivantis> like what?
22:11 <epsy> aha, what about quit messages?
22:11 <ivantis> …
22:11 <epsy> same goes for part messages
22:11 <ivantis> screw quit messages
22:11 <ivantis> parts have messages?
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22:11 <ivantis> i didnt know that
22:12 <ivantis> ok, ill make it put in part messages and quit messages
22:12  * ivantis goes to edit the logs by hand
22:12 <ivantis> jk
22:12 <StickyNoob> if only there was a console based irc client that would log everything for you easily
22:12 <ivantis> ircII
22:12 <ivantis> but it wouldnt sort by date
22:13 <StickyNoob> irssi?
22:13 <ivantis> ircII?
22:13 <epsy> irssi
22:14 <ivantis> ircii is better
22:14 <StickyNoob> on what planet>
22:14 <StickyNoob> ?
22:14 <ivantis> idk
22:14 <guru3> irssi is better
22:14 <guru3> imo
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22:17 <ivantis> i think that should be it...
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22:17 <ivantis> yeah
22:18 <ivantis> handles part/quit reasons
22:18 <ivantis> and /mes differently
22:18  * ivantis tests it
22:18 <ivantis> ** instead of ***
22:19 <StickyNoob> how does this logger work?
22:19 <ivantis> its a perl script
22:19 <StickyNoob> thats parseing a clients logs or has an irc library?
22:19 <ivantis> irc library for perl
22:19 <ivantis> Net/IRC.pm
22:20 <ivantis> surprisingly easy to use, but of course i didnt write it
22:20 <epsy> after all, it's perl
22:20 <ivantis> https://code.launchpad.net/~janos-gyerik/scripts/irc-logger-bot
22:20 <ivantis> that one
22:20 <epsy> blah i need to move code around :((
22:20 <ivantis> but i had to modify it to handle parts, quits, and /mes
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22:21 <epsy> jeez i really need a wider screen
22:21 <epsy> or smaller applications
22:21 <Lucifer_pen> yes,you do
22:21 <ivantis> Miranda@austincc.edu?
22:21 <ivantis> you work at a university?
22:21 <epsy> no, he's stealing the wifi of an university
22:22 <ivantis> how convinient
22:22 <ivantis> maybe i should do that...
22:22 <ivantis> it would be @something.ku.edu
22:22 <ivantis> i wonder if ku has wireless...
22:22 <epsy> o nothing at all since they dont have wifi
22:22 <epsy> \o/
22:22 <ivantis> maybe
22:22 <ivantis> ill look it up
22:23 <ivantis> yeah they do, http://www.technology.ku.edu/internet/wireless/
22:23 <ivantis> it says by December 2008
22:24 <ivantis> which really means October 2009
22:24 <epsy> you mean the 08/22/2009 ?
22:25 <ivantis> aw, i think its gonna be the kind where you have to login to a screen in your browser
22:25 <ivantis> fuck
22:26 <epsy> swipes UDP out
22:26 <ivantis> really?
22:26 <ivantis> no UDP on that kind of thing?
22:26 <epsy> do you know any webserver that serves login screens on an udp connection on port 4534 ?
22:27 <ivantis> no
22:27 <ivantis> does that kind of login block other ports?
22:27 <ivantis> like 8080?
22:27 <epsy> i don't know, but as said, UDP is out
22:27 <ivantis> i wonder how those work... ill bet some kind of hole is out there...
22:28 <ivantis> ill try it at school, they have a thing like that
22:28 <ivantis> my friend brought his laptop and tried to get wireless on a network that said "USD 497 Public", which had a stupid login screen thing
22:29 <ivantis> public, really?
22:30 <guru3> i think the best would be a fake like tmobile hotspot
22:30 <guru3> use it for harvesting passwords
22:30 <ivantis> oh yeah
22:30 <ivantis> theres one of those in town
22:30 <guru3> see how many people notice 'oh wait, that's NOT ssl'
22:31 <ivantis> none
22:31 <ivantis> who would use a thing like that with a brain?
22:31 <epsy> depends on location
22:31 <PinkTomato> they aren't used much, and prices are so expensive, an account probably only last for an hour
22:32 <guru3> ive seen quite a few people using them
22:32 <guru3> esp in airports
22:32 <ivantis> yeah
22:32 <ivantis> airports are popular
22:32 <ivantis> its free at the kansas city airport
22:32 <guru3> well an ap with a battery
22:32 <guru3> is entirely possible
22:33 <epsy> boats r better
22:33 <PinkTomato> ah airports, definitely, didn't think of that. Rarely do i see a laptop and wifi in my small town
22:33 <guru3> ive got an idea for a fun project now
22:33 <epsy> 'stealing passwords'
22:34 <ivantis> whats this? sudo apt-get install kismet
22:34 <guru3> well there's that
22:34 <epsy> that really encourages the use of your implementation of armaauth/0.1 :P
22:34 <ivantis> linux packet sniffer for wireless
22:34 <guru3> but ive had this fun mesh networking idea for a while too
22:34 <guru3> just waiting for the cost of aps to dop
22:34 <guru3> *drop
22:34 <PinkTomato> i have a feeling that they are cheap
22:34 <PinkTomato> and the prices are artifically high
22:34 <guru3> still 20-40 pounds
22:35 <PinkTomato> never seen one for 20 pounds :)
22:35 <guru3> i got a 2nd hand one for a tenner
22:35 <PinkTomato> ISPs give them away like frisbees now
22:35 <guru3> but that was esp lucky
22:35 <guru3> AP
22:35 <guru3> not router
22:36 <guru3> well, bridge really
22:36 <PinkTomato> oh! similar thing :)
22:36 <guru3> is what i mean
22:36 <ivantis> what runs on port 2501?
22:36 <PinkTomato> you won't be able to buy cheap, if you want to patch software onto it
22:37 <guru3> my 10 quid one was a wrt54g
22:37 <guru3> can run linux and everything
22:37 <PinkTomato> awesome!
22:37 <PinkTomato> ivantis: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
22:37 <guru3> the probem is i'm using it now
22:37 <guru3> so i'd need like another one for my experimentation
22:37 <PinkTomato> so you want to make a mesh network?
22:38 <guru3> i thoguht it might be fun to play with access points and batteries
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22:40 <PinkTomato> Is a way to make ap with batteries, i have no idea where to start though :)
22:41 <guru3> take the battery
22:41 <guru3> hook up its leads to a plug for the ap's c in
22:42 <guru3> *dc in
22:42 <PinkTomato> So DC IN, and for like 6v, 4 1.5v batteries, solder a connector?
22:42 <guru3> a gumstix would be
22:42 <guru3> yeah
22:42 <guru3> a gumstix would be fun too
22:43 <PinkTomato> not heard of them
22:43 <PinkTomato> small linux pc?
22:43 <guru3> yeah
22:43 <guru3> arm
22:43 <ivantis> epsy: do @alias add port fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=$1
22:44 <epsy> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=4534
22:44 <teabot> epsy: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:44 <epsy> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=6667
22:44 <teabot> epsy: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:44 <ivantis> it doesnt know arma
22:44 <guru3> gumstix are just a bit expensive
22:44 <ivantis> do like 8080
22:44 <guru3> :<
22:44 <epsy> wtf does this thing do?
22:44 <PinkTomato> they are a bit! :)
22:44 <epsy> 6667 is a common port
22:44 <PinkTomato> they are just like a linux router to me
22:45 <ivantis> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=8080
22:45 <ivantis> do that
22:45 <guru3> yes
22:45 <epsy> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=8080
22:45 <teabot> epsy: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:45 <guru3> but you can do more stuff with them
22:45 <ivantis> wtf?
22:45 <guru3> so they are more awesome
22:45 <PinkTomato> lol :D
22:45 <ivantis> it worked a second ago
22:46 <guru3> and in other news
22:46 <guru3> i think i was called a 'noob' on a server
22:46 <PinkTomato> xD
22:46 <guru3> because i 'lost all my speed by turning'
22:46 <PinkTomato> probably a noob
22:47 <guru3> certainly someone that's never read the AUTHORS file
22:47 <ivantis> http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=80
22:47 <ivantis> only some work...
22:47 <ivantis> idk
22:48 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
22:48 <ivantis> oh
22:48 <ivantis> i see the problem
22:49 <guru3> your cgi isn't working?
22:49 <guru3> sorry that was a random statement
22:49 <guru3> PinkTomato: picotux would also be awesome
22:49 <guru3> i want to write some software
22:49 <guru3> so that one of those could hide on a network
22:49 <ivantis> more like some dork did it wrong
22:49 <guru3> and you could just hide miniature proxies everywhere
22:49 <ivantis> there
22:49 <ivantis> fixed it
22:49 <ivantis> epsy
22:49 <PinkTomato> I've seen that!
22:50 <PinkTomato> Look's really cool
22:50 <PinkTomato> pricey but cool
22:50 <guru3> yeah
22:50 <epsy> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=6667
22:50 <teabot> epsy: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:50 <guru3> 100 bucks on an experiment
22:50 <guru3> not quite worth it
22:50 <ivantis> 6667 isnt in there
22:50 <epsy> does not work
22:51 <PinkTomato> not really :)
22:51 <guru3> better spend that hundred on a gumstix
22:51 <ivantis> try a different one
22:51 <epsy> if even 6667 isn't in it..
22:51 <guru3> ><
22:51 <guru3> i would
22:51 <ivantis> what is 6667?
22:51 <epsy> guess
22:51 <ivantis> idk
22:51 <epsy> hint
22:51 <epsy> you're using it
22:51 <ivantis> oh
22:51 <ivantis> irc
22:52 <ivantis> its just the file at http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
22:52 <ivantis> dog http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers | grep $number
22:52 <PinkTomato> guru3: There's the picoITX, but it's very locked in i think
22:53 <epsy> ircu		6665-6669/tcp  IRCU
22:53 <epsy> ircu		6665-6669/udp  IRCU
22:53 <ivantis> oh
22:53 <ivantis> i see
22:53 <ivantis> well
22:53 <ivantis> try it now, i added it just for you
22:54 <ivantis> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=6667
22:54 <epsy> @fetch http://space-lab.us/port.pl?port=6668
22:54 <teabot> epsy: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
22:54 <ivantis> will you please unignore me?
22:54 <epsy> you're not on my ignore list
22:54 <ivantis> teabot: will you please unignore me?
22:54 <ivantis> i meant from teabot, he cant do it himself
22:54 <teabot> No, i will not.
22:54 <guru3> i bet the picoitx still draws a lot of power
22:55 <guru3> not something you can power of some AAs
22:56 <PinkTomato> True. I would say a significant more than the others, but still much less than a full PC. Probably last a quite a few hours on a laptop battery pack
22:56 <guru3> fans also tend not to do well in enclosed places
22:56 <guru3> like backpacks or pockets
22:57 <fonkay> howdy folks
22:58 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
22:59 <PinkTomato> guru3: http://d116.com/spud/. Potato powered web server
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23:00 <guru3> ^^
23:01 <fonkay> how's it going?
23:01 <Rogue3> hey fonkay!
23:01 <guru3> tis ok fonkay, tis ok
23:01 <fonkay> just ok? sorry tank
23:01 <guru3> ok is the default state
23:02 <guru3> i am neither overly happy or overly sad
23:02 <guru3> it's like 0V dc
23:02 <guru3> or something
23:02 <fonkay> it's only slightly higher than meh
23:02 <guru3> not in my book
23:02 <ivantis> fonkay: you have to run $ mood --great!
23:02 <guru3> meh is "i've given up on life and want to die"
23:03 <fonkay> not the way i say it.
23:03 <Rogue3> LOL!
23:03 <fonkay> Well, either way I'm doing slightly better than ok. I'm ok + a bowl of ketchup chips.
23:04 <guru3> 'how are you?' 'meh'
23:04 <guru3> that's just wrong
23:04 <fonkay> meh in my mind is " i dunno, not horrible"
23:04 <guru3> how does fine rank then?
23:05 <Rogue3> why not a packed bowl?  why ketchup chips?  wtf is wrong with the world today
23:05 <fonkay> fine is better than ok, but less than good.
23:05 <guru3> see fine and ok are about the same in my book
23:05 <fonkay> i think it's all in how you say it. Which is the problem with the internet and typing out feelings.
23:06 <guru3> i was going for a 'magnimonious' effect
23:06 <ivantis> aircrack-ng
23:07 <fonkay> brb out of chips. slipping from state of goodness.
23:07 <Rogue3> lol
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23:15 <fonkay> ok
23:16 <Rogue3> back?  lol took you a long time to get some chips
23:18 <fonkay> ADD
23:18 <Rogue3> lol
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00:12 <Lucifer_pen> guru3: I believe you meant magnanimous
00:13 <ct|kyle1> the hurricane remains just hit me
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00:17  * ivantis is compiling a server with zthread for the first time
00:19 <ivantis> make is taking a really long time, i havent used it to compile a full new server in a while
00:20 <ivantis> ah! done
00:22 <ivantis> instantaneous authentication is much better
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01:13 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ping
01:13 <ivantis> (ping
01:13 <ivantis> )ping
01:14 <luke-jr> guru3: ping u too maybe
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18:17 <ct|kyle> #ss testing
18:17 <teabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Authentication fortress - Testing (5/14): Blue BrainEaters (79): Puuquie (16), AOLgirl (2), ¦×¦ Liza (2); Gold FleshBiters (78): PlayerNuby (8), SpeeD (6)
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18:33 <PinkTomato> #ss racing
18:33 <teabot> PinkTomato: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/14): Something went wrong.
19:25 <luke-jr> epsy: liar
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19:37 <epsy> i did update it :x
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19:38 <luke-jr> epsy: then why are things like CASACL undefined?
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19:40 <luke-jr> and bzr says you've never committed to sty
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19:45 <epsy> did you uprade your copy of it?
19:45 <epsy> luke-jr, https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
19:47 <luke-jr> Standalone tree (format: rich-root-pack)
19:47 <luke-jr> Location:
19:47 <luke-jr>   branch root: .
19:47 <luke-jr> Related branches:
19:47 <luke-jr>   parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/
19:47 <epsy> what is the last revision?
19:54 <luke-jr> Tree is up to date at revision 580.
19:55 <epsy> well, you're missing 300 revisions :P
19:55 <luke-jr> up to date
19:55 <epsy> bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
19:55 <luke-jr> …
19:55 <epsy> or bzr bind lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty then bzr up
19:55 <luke-jr> wtf is the purpose of bzr up then
19:56 <epsy> mainly in a checkout
19:56 <epsy> or to just roll forward to lastet revision
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19:56 <epsy> ctrl+alt+del?
19:56 <epsy> er
19:56 <epsy> +backspace
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19:58 <epsy> wb
19:58 <epsy> <luke-jr> wtf is the purpose of bzr up then
19:58 <epsy> <epsy> mainly in a checkout
19:58 <epsy> <epsy> or to just roll forward to lastet revision
19:59 <luke-jr> …
20:05 <epsy> what?
20:12 <Rogue> Hey luke, can you change the players that come in back to 10?  It's at 16 right now.
20:13 <Rogue> nvm, its back at 10 xD
20:14 <luke-jr> Rogue: eh?
20:14 <luke-jr> restart to try sty-auth again
20:14 <Rogue> okie :)
20:15 <Rogue> Hmm, for some reason /login @forums brings up "Login denied!"
20:16 <Rogue> how do you login on this version?
20:16 <epsy> GLOBAL_ID 1 ?
20:16 <Rogue> its set
20:16 <epsy> how does that message show up?
20:17 <Rogue> i dunno, go in and try for yourself
20:17 <Rogue> same server
20:17 <epsy> same server?
20:17 <Rogue> yeah
20:17 <Rogue> -=VcL.Clan Server
20:20 <epsy> lol
20:27 <guru3> you don't do the @ sign
20:27 <guru3> just /login furms
20:27 <guru3> *forums
20:34 <Rogue> it says login denied when i do that guru
20:35 <Rogue> when i do /login it doesnt give an error
20:35 <Rogue> but i never see a login page
20:35 <epsy> Rogue, i get a « this server does not support the kind of auth you requested » error
20:36 <Rogue> hmm
20:38 <guru3> whitelist/blacklist?
20:38 <Rogue> Dunno how to use that yet guru.
20:38 <Rogue> Can you explain?  I was looking at that earlier
20:39 <guru3> well, i'm not sure really
20:39 <guru3> but it has to do with authorities
20:39 <Rogue> Hmm
20:40 <Rogue> how would it look after you put the people you want to login in it?
20:40 <guru3> it would be
20:41 <Rogue> AUTHORITY_WHITELIST  If non-empty, only authorities on this comma separated list will be queried by your server.
20:41 <guru3> AUTHORITY_WHITELIST forums
20:41 <Rogue> alright
20:41 <Rogue> lemme try
20:42 <Rogue> still login denied :/
20:42 <guru3> well you'll have to look into epsy's error then
20:42 <guru3> g2g for a bit
20:43 <Rogue> cya
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20:52 <epsy> Rogue, GLOBAL_ID 1
20:53 <epsy> check if it says "unknown command" or soemthing
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21:10 <Rogue> lol
21:11 <Rogue> kyle, you there?
21:11 <Rogue> or epsy?  or guru?  or luke? lol
21:11 <epsy> don't ask to ask, just ask
21:12 <Rogue> in the older auth build its not possible for players to /vote include is it?
21:12 <Rogue> go try epsy
21:12 <Rogue> i have it working now
21:12 <epsy> it's working or its not working?
21:13 <epsy> @sd vcl
21:13 <teabot> epsy: The -=VcL.Clan Server :.Multi-Mode.: SumoVOTING_PRIVACY -2: Players (2/8): -=VcL.Rogue, Fuzz-E
21:13 <epsy> huh ? :P
21:19 <guru3> @sd guru3
21:19 <teabot> guru3: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “guru3” at the moment, sorry.
21:19 <guru3> hmmm
21:19 <guru3> server name then
21:19 <epsy> hm?
21:19 <guru3> is there a player search one?
21:20 <epsy>  @ls
21:20 <epsy> (last seen
21:20 <guru3> @ls guru3
21:20 <teabot> guru3: Guru3 seems to be on Swampland Mud Puddle right now.
21:20 <guru3> banzai
21:20 <Rogue> thx epsy for the help :)
21:20 <guru3> it needs to recognize self referenc
21:20 <epsy> yw
21:20 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:20 <epsy> like that?
21:21 <teabot> epsy: timed out
21:22 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:22 <teabot> epsy: timed out
21:22 <epsy> @ls teabot
21:22 <teabot> epsy: teabot seems to be on Swampland Mud Puddle right now.
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21:27 <Rogue> lol
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21:41 <luke-jr> …
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22:28 <ivantis> @logs
22:28 <ivantis> @ping
22:31 <ivantis> noob
22:31 <ivantis> .ping
22:36 <MrBougo> does swampland still exist?
22:36 <MrBougo> is it still so laggy?
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22:41 <ivantis> idk
22:41 <ivantis> i think so
22:42 <ivantis> ca$h hosts it now
22:47 <luke-jr> "Hmm, epsy and i have figured out that auth is not supported on that version.  Guru thinks it would be as easy as patching a newer binary. "
22:47 <luke-jr> epsy: guru3: wtf does that mean?
22:48 <guru3> i said nothing about patching a newer binary
22:48 <luke-jr> MrBougo: many Swamplands exist afaik
22:48 <luke-jr> guru3: what did you say? XD
22:48 <epsy> --enable-authentication
22:48 <ivantis> who added the rotation stuff to 0.3.*?
22:48 <MrBougo> when I left there were two
22:48 <luke-jr> epsy: oh, not armathentication in sty?
22:48 <MrBougo> one on 2.7.1 and another on 2.8
22:48 <ivantis> ??
22:48 <epsy> luke-jr, it just wasnt enabled
22:48 <MrBougo> it had a very tiny grid and some power brakes
22:48  * luke-jr smacks MrBougo for being stupid when he knows better
22:48 <MrBougo> and tiny rubber
22:49 <guru3> ok i did say patching a newer binary, but i was playing at the time, and meant patching newer sources
22:49 <MrBougo> luke-jr, how am I being stupid?
22:49 <ivantis> who added the rotation stuff to 0.3.*? like the rotating settings settings and stuff
22:49 <luke-jr> epsy:   $ ../../src/armagetronad-0.2.8-sty.bzr/configure --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-uninstall --enable-multiver=0.2.8-sty-auth --no-create --no-recursion
22:49 <luke-jr> MrBougo: there is no 2.0 yet even
22:49 <epsy> :/
22:49 <MrBougo> oh crap
22:49 <MrBougo> :p
22:49 <MrBougo> well
22:49 <luke-jr> btw, anyone know why zThread is unavailable on Debian?
22:50 <epsy> 1/ you can use --enable-dedicated, and 2/ you need to --enable-authentication
22:50 <luke-jr> err wait
22:50 <luke-jr> wtf isn't it in there
22:50 <ivantis> luke-jr: zthread is unavailable on debian?
22:50 <ivantis> i thought it wasnt OS dependant
22:50 <StickyNoob> what is zthread?
22:50 <ivantis> i just installed it on ubuntu yesterday
22:51 <ivantis> Stickynoob: extra libraries for multiple operations
22:51 <ivantis> i think
22:51  * luke-jr wonders why his -auth builds don't have the configure flag in config.log
22:52 <ivantis> Q:	Why is Christmas just like a day at the office?
22:52 <ivantis> A:	You do all of the work and the fat guy in the suit
22:52 <ivantis> 	gets all the credit.
22:52 <StickyNoob> ba boom tish
22:52 <ivantis> man, tiger and root crontabs send me a lot of mail
22:53 <ivantis> luke-jr: what is the file that i put the mail forwarding address in using postfix?
22:53 <ivantis> i remember reading it in UNIX for dummies
22:53 <luke-jr> ivantis: .forward of course
22:53 <ivantis> in where?
22:53 <luke-jr> the user's home dir
22:53 <ivantis> /home/USER/.forward?
22:53 <luke-jr> yes
22:53 <ivantis> just a plain email address?
22:53 <luke-jr> …
22:54 <luke-jr> any more stupid questions will be ignored, kthx
22:54 <guru3> /etc/portage/virtual
22:54 <luke-jr> guru3: …
22:54 <guru3> /etc/mail/aliases
22:54 <ivantis> someone with C++ knowledge look at my post on the forums
22:54 <guru3> one of those two
22:54 <ivantis> and its not a stupid question this time
22:54 <luke-jr> we should port Armagetron to Qt
22:54 <ivantis> Qt?
22:55 <ivantis> whats that?
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23:21 <epsy> ivantis, use a debugger
23:21 <epsy> gn
23:21 <ivantis> what debugger?
23:21 <ivantis> how does it work?
23:21 <epsy> gdb
23:21 <epsy> gdb ./armagetronad
23:21 <epsy> once it crashes, type bt ;)
23:21 <ivantis> gnu debugger im guessing?
23:22 <epsy> yes
23:22 <ivantis> ./armagetronad should be replaced by my binary?
23:22 <epsy> yes
23:22 <ivantis> k
23:22 <epsy> gn
23:22 <luke-jr> wow
23:22 <luke-jr> this is seriously retarded
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23:22 <luke-jr> I disputed about 20 unknown $1 charges on my credit card
23:23 <luke-jr> and get 20 letters saying "we'll tell you more once we look at the receipt"
23:23 <luke-jr> each 34 cents of postage
23:23 <ivantis> my dad had a whole lot of unknown $19.93 charges a while ago, all internet service related
23:23 <ivantis> 19.93? what an odd number
23:23 <luke-jr> you'd think someone would realize they're going to end up spending more on postage than the disputed amount
23:24 <ivantis> hahaha
23:24 <Rogue> I think it was you ivantis, watching that pr0n
23:24 <ivantis> ill bet all of those charges are from your businesses on the net
23:24 <luke-jr> nah, it was Hyphy
23:24 <Rogue> lol
23:25 <Rogue> Hey where is epsy?  i need him to help me with voting again on my server.  Auth is working, but the voting is saying too few players are online xD
23:25 <Rogue> epsy is he or she guys?
23:25 <Rogue> epsy confuses me
23:25 <luke-jr> want to buy more slots? XD
23:26 <Rogue> NO LUKE lol more slots = MORE LAG
23:26 <luke-jr> Rogue: not really
23:26 <luke-jr> I mean, sortof
23:26 <Rogue> and i can't afford it
23:26 <luke-jr> but the slots don't do it, the players do :þ
23:26 <Rogue> True.
23:28 <ivantis> gdb says No stack when i type bt
23:28 <ivantis> luke-jr: any help?
23:28 <luke-jr> yes, learn to use gdb
23:28 <luke-jr> and stfu until
23:30 <Rogue> LOL!
23:30 <Rogue> pwnt
23:34 <ivantis> wow
23:34 <ivantis> is it possible to overload less?
23:34 <ivantis> i was trying to look at my old mail file with less, and the terminal reset, and when i typed it didnt show up
23:35 <ivantis> odd
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23:46 <ivantis> im using gdb on my server, and attached its PID. how come i cant connect?
23:54 <Rogue> ivantis, can you come to vcl server with luke and i?
23:54 <Rogue> and login with auth and test out the voting lol he cant login
23:55 <ivantis> sure

Log from 2008-09-05:
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00:17 <luke-jr> I can pwn Rogue+ivantis in CTF :þ
00:17 <Rogue> Well that was fun, no doubt
00:17 <Rogue> Chicken face :)
00:17 <Rogue> lol
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00:24 <Rogue> luke
00:25 <Rogue> lol /help is not there? or is it?
00:27 <ivantis> luke-jr: how can i convert an ePlayerNetID to a gCycle?
00:30 <ivantis> oh nvm
00:30 <Rogue> lol
00:30 <Rogue> ivantis: do you know why /help doesnt work on my server?
00:31 <ivantis> idk
00:31 <ivantis> something to do with /vote ill bet
00:31 <Rogue> hermmm.
00:31 <ct|kyle> Rogue: is the setting set?
00:31 <Rogue> i doubt it, it was working before we changed it
00:31 <Rogue> what setting ct|kyle?
00:31 <ct|kyle> Rogue: did you change version?
00:32 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 help_to
00:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADD_HELP_TOPIC: Add a new help topic to be used with /help. Usage: ADD_HELP_TOPIC || REMOVE_HELP_TOPIC: Remove a help topic.
00:32 <Rogue> well i got luke to build a sty+auth server
00:32 <ct|kyle> ya
00:32 <ct|kyle> use that one
00:32 <Rogue> help_to?
00:32 <Rogue> what does your .cfg2 mean?
00:32 <Rogue> i dont get that
00:33 <ct|kyle> those commands come strait from CT+sty+auth
00:33 <Rogue> it should work then right?
00:33 <ct|kyle>  .cfg2 is just a search for commands
00:33 <ivantis> Rogue: finished with KILL_ALL command
00:33 <Rogue> are you?  how do i use it?
00:33 <Rogue> lol
00:33 <ivantis> come to my server to see
00:33 <ivantis> SPACE-LAB Shooting
00:33 <Rogue> ok be right there, kyle is helping me real quick
00:34 <Rogue> so what do i need ct|kyle?
00:34 <Rogue> i have sty+auth
00:34 <Rogue> let me see if i have a .cfg2
00:34 <ct|kyle> ADD_HELP_TOPIC "topic name" "shot description" "long description"
00:34 <ivantis> i have sty+ct+auth, /help works on mine
00:35 <ivantis> er, sty+ct+myownhacks+auth
00:35 <Rogue> Hmm, i wonder why it won't work on mine.... i dont have ct on mine
00:35 <Rogue> is that why?
00:35 <ivantis> idk
00:35 <Rogue> xD
00:35 <ct|kyle> .cfg help
00:36 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
00:36 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 help
00:36 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADD_HELP_TOPIC: Add a new help topic to be used with /help. Usage: ADD_HELP_TOPIC || HELP_INTRODUCTORY_BLURB: Message that is displayed before the list of help topics if someone uses /help without arguments || REMOVE_HELP_TOPIC: Remove a help topic.
00:36 <ct|kyle> could be
00:36 <Rogue> lol wtf is tronner a help bot?
00:36 <ct|kyle> ya
00:36 <Rogue> oh
00:37 <ct|kyle> ]cfg2 help
00:37 <ct|kyle> oh ya luke-jr silenced me
00:38 <Rogue> LOL
00:38 <ct|kyle> type ]echo luke-jr is an asshat
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00:49 <ivantis> luke-jr: Rogue is requesting that you compile him a server with my KILL_ALL hack
00:50 <Rogue> lol that sounds mean the way you say it... luke pretty please?  lol
00:50 <ivantis> add the lines at http://rafb.net/p/IuyE8p85.html to src/tron/gCycle.cpp
00:51 <ivantis> Rogue: wtf?
00:51 <ivantis> i think my server crashed...
00:51 <Rogue> i think so too :/
00:51 <Rogue> LOL!
00:52 <ivantis> oh, segmentation fault
00:52 <ivantis> odd
00:52 <ivantis> maybe from the KILL_ALL...
00:52 <Rogue> scratch that luke, don't compile nothing for me
00:52 <Rogue> LOL!
00:52 <ivantis> hold on... ill fix it. gcc did give me a warning...
00:55 <Rogue> FAIL
00:55 <Rogue> hehe
00:58 <ivantis> is doing make again, seeing if it gives me another warning...
00:58 <Rogue> kk
00:58 <ivantis> and it didnt
00:58 <Rogue> nice one :)
00:59 <ivantis> ok, come back to my server for a sec to test it
00:59 <Rogue> ok ok fine
01:00 <ivantis> you wanted the hack, remember?
01:00 <Rogue> lol what hack?  i don't remember
01:01 <ivantis> i think it crashed again...
01:01 <ivantis> i did it at the wrong time
01:01 <Rogue> lol it did
01:02 <ivantis> ok, now come back
01:04 <ivantis> come back! i need you to test something
01:06 <ivantis> ok fine
01:06 <ivantis> dont come back
01:06 <Rogue> haha sry
01:06 <Rogue> brb
01:08 <ivantis> Rogue: ok, to make the hack work, add the lines at http://rafb.net/p/Owip1022.html to the end of gCycle.cpp and recompile
01:09 <Rogue> gotta eat be back in few
01:09 <ivantis> k
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01:24 <Rogue> back
01:24 <Rogue> KFC eXtRa CrIsPy
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01:33 <ivantis> ok, KILL_ALL is pretty stable now
01:33 <Rogue> nice
01:33 <Rogue> im in gurus server
01:33 <ivantis> ask luke-jr to help you compile it
01:33 <ivantis> gurus server? which one?
01:34 <guru3> the new one
01:34 <ivantis> called?
01:34 <guru3> @sd guru3
01:34 <teabot> guru3: Guru3's Server: Players (3/16): -=VcL.Rogue, akira, Guru3
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01:35 <Rogue> yo!
01:35 <guru3> i haven't got the settings
01:35 <Rogue> i sent them to you on msn
01:37 <Rogue> http://www.mediafire.com/?tuizzycm2i4
01:58 <Rogue> yo luke
01:58 <Rogue> you there mate?
01:58 <ivantis> no
01:58 <Rogue> sitnavi:  STFU
01:59 <Rogue> xD
01:59 <Rogue> your server?
01:59 <ivantis> me?
01:59 <Rogue> yes
01:59 <ivantis> ok
01:59 <Rogue> test kill all
01:59 <ivantis> now it works right
02:00 <Rogue> great day, where the hell is your server
02:01 <ivantis> idk
02:01 <ivantis> should be on the list
02:01 <ivantis> or custom connect: armaserver.space-lab.us port 4537
02:01 <ivantis> say @sd -v space-lab
02:02 <ivantis> hmm
02:02 <ivantis> it isnt on the list
02:02 <ivantis> well, idk
02:02 <Rogue> haha
02:02 <Rogue> its your hack!
02:02 <Rogue> it pwnt your server
02:02 <ivantis> no its not
02:04 <ivantis> ok, now its on the list
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03:40 <ivantis> guru3: you there?
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04:01 <ct|kyle> ivantis: look at his away
04:01 <ivantis> oh
04:02 <Rogue> kyle, can you explain the cfg2 thing again for /help?
04:02 <Rogue> me and luke are trying to figure it out
04:02 <Rogue> and make /help work on the server
04:02 <ct|kyle>  .cfg2 is just a setting search
04:02 <ct|kyle> you should use
04:02 <ct|kyle> .cfg help_to
04:02 <tronner> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
04:02 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 elp_top
04:03 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADD_HELP_TOPIC: Add a new help topic to be used with /help. Usage: ADD_HELP_TOPIC || REMOVE_HELP_TOPIC: Remove a help topic.
04:03 <ct|kyle> ADD_HELP_TOPIC
04:04 <Rogue> so the help feature isnt compiled in ct is it?
04:05 <ct|kyle> what do you mean
04:05 <ct|kyle> all the .cfg2 settings are taken from ct+sty server
04:06 <ct|kyle> .cfg i am not sure about
04:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADMIN_PASS: Password for the basic in game admin (default: NONE) || AI_CHARACTER_FILE: ai_character_file_help (default: aiplayers.cfg) || AI_IQ: IQ of the AI opponents (default: 100) || ALLOW_CONTROL_DURING_CHAT: If set to 1, this allows a player to issue cycle and camera control commands during chat (losing the chatbot and the yellow chat pyramid). (default: 0) || ALLOW_ENEMIES_SAME_CLIENT: If set (50 more messages)
04:06 <ct|kyle> .cfg
04:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
04:06 <ct|kyle> .cfg2
04:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
04:06 <Rogue> so do you think (LOL @ tronner!) if i get ct compiled with my sty+auth server, it will fix it?
04:08 <ct|kyle> i'm not sure
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15:05 <guru3> why the hell is autopackage.org not working D:
15:19 <P4> .servtest autopackage.org 80
15:19 <tronner> P4: Server at autopackage.org:80 is up.
15:19 <P4> it does work :þ
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17:45 <Rogue> G'morning all :)
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16:17 <smoothice> epsy: are you there?
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16:17 <epsy> hi
16:18 <smoothice> I'm having a problem with CTFS
16:18 <epsy> gotta wonder wtf is Ttech doing
16:18 <smoothice> yeah
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16:18 <epsy> :X
16:18 <smoothice> So with this CTF server
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16:19 <smoothice> The problem is that I can go to my OWN base and return my OWN flag to my OWN base :/
16:19 <epsy> heh
16:19 <epsy> check in the 1-flag settings
16:20 <smoothice> but I'm using two flag
16:20 <epsy> there's probably something which toggles ownership of flagsq
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16:21 <smoothice> I only stuff that maybe has anything to do with flag/team stuff is this: FLAG_REQUIRED_HOME 1
16:21 <smoothice> FLAG_DROP_HOME 0
16:21 <smoothice> FLAG_DROP_TIME 3
16:21 <smoothice> FLAG_TEAM 0
16:21 <epsy> so..?
16:21 <smoothice> ?
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16:22 <epsy> which of thse could be changing the ownership of the flags? :)
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16:22 <smoothice> FLAG_TEAM 1 :/
16:22 <epsy> :)
16:22 <smoothice> :D ok
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16:24 <smoothice> It didn't do anything :/
16:24 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron
16:24 <smoothice> Any other ideas?
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16:25 <hoax> epsy
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16:26 <epsy> smoothice, i don't know much about the sty patch
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16:26 <smoothice> epsy: ok
16:28 <epsy> hoax, ?
16:28 <hoax> you do personal problems aswell as arma related?
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16:29 <epsy> err
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16:29 <hoax> :(
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16:43 <Ttech2> chaos over.
16:43 <Ttech2> :/
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17:04 <smoothice> luke-jr: are you there now :D?
17:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is never here
17:06 <smoothice> he was yesterday :/
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18:12 <StickyNoob> smoothice: wwho are you?
18:12 <smoothice> a person
18:12 <smoothice> :D
18:12 <StickyNoob> in game?
18:12 <smoothice> what do you mean
18:13 <smoothice> I've been looking for someone for help with my a sty bug
18:14 <smoothice> Does anyone here have expert knowledge about sty??????
18:16 <K-Yo> "expert knowledge"
18:17 <K-Yo> smoothice: people with an "expert knowledge" are often too busy
18:17 <smoothice> How about enough knowledge to help with some minor issues:D?
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18:20 <smoothice> K-Yo: could you help?
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18:51 <K-Yo> smoothice: too late, you left :(
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19:47 <ivantis> wow
19:47 <ivantis> i havent said anything today
19:47 <ivantis> but now i have
19:47  * ivantis is shopping for a new mac right now
19:49 <StickyNoob> and within 4 lines you have already got it wrong
19:49 <ivantis> got what wrong?
19:50 <StickyNoob> buying a computer
19:50 <ivantis> what should i buy then?
19:50 <ivantis> let me guess, a Dell laptop so i can run linux?
19:51 <StickyNoob> actualy if you can get a student discount then mac arnt too bad
19:51 <ivantis> yeah
19:51 <ivantis> i get a discount
19:51 <ivantis> my mom said i should buy one now so i get the discount
19:51 <StickyNoob> and no i wouldnt recoment dell at all
19:52 <ivantis> what then?
19:52 <StickyNoob> build your own if its a desktop
19:52 <ivantis> im running a Dell dimension 4600 right now, its pretty nice
19:52 <ivantis> no i want a laptop
19:52 <ivantis> running ubuntu
19:52 <StickyNoob> for laptop id go for lenovo
19:53 <ivantis> i kind of want a mac, and i kind of want another ubuntu
19:53 <ivantis> im stuck
19:53 <StickyNoob> a mac will run ubuntu
19:53 <ivantis> i know
19:53 <ivantis> but i mean OS wise
19:53 <ivantis> ubuntu or OS X?
19:53 <ivantis> i cant decide
19:53 <StickyNoob> why are you suck then?
19:53 <StickyNoob> dual boot
19:54 <ivantis> no
19:54 <ivantis> i dont want something crappy like that
19:54 <ivantis> anyway, does dual boot support os x?
19:54 <StickyNoob> why is that crappy?
19:54 <ivantis> its just...
19:54 <ivantis> i dont want dual boot
19:54 <ivantis> i jusst dont want it!!
19:55 <ivantis> idk
19:55 <ivantis> …
19:55 <ivantis> but, i think im gonna go with os x
19:55 <ivantis> but which version?
19:55 <ivantis> 10.4 or 10.5?
19:56 <ivantis> .5 looks really cruddy in my opinion
19:56 <ivantis> but .4 has some issues with X-Apps
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19:57 <RoGuE> yo!
19:57 <ivantis> hey rogue
19:57 <RoGuE> hey ivantis :)
19:57 <ivantis> is this going to be another one of those question asking times?
19:58 <ivantis> /suicide
19:58 <RoGuE> hahaha nope
19:58 <RoGuE> just coming to see if luke is here
19:58  * RoGuE wants to pwn him again
19:58 <ivantis> he most likely is
19:58 <K-Yo>  /suicide
19:58 <ivantis> because he doesnt have away on
19:58 <RoGuE> lol
19:58 <RoGuE> BRB
19:58 <ivantis> K-Yo: did you try the /suicide at my server?
19:59 <K-Yo> nope
19:59 <K-Yo> where si your server?
19:59 <ivantis> SPACE-LAB Shooting
20:00 <K-Yo> haha
20:00 <K-Yo> your server is totally fucked up
20:00 <K-Yo> there are like 10 lines of mistakes while joining :P
20:00 <ivantis> what mistakes??
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20:08 <hoax> rofl I just found armagetron-windows- buried away on my hdd
20:08 <hoax> cant be as bad as the installer icon
20:17 <K-Yo> xD
20:17 <ivantis> K-Yo: come back, you need to see the teleporting
20:17 <ivantis> it only works once per server restart
20:17 <ivantis> kind of retarded
20:18 <K-Yo> ok
20:18 <ct|kyle> ivantis: your kid of retarded
20:18 <ct|kyle> :P
20:19 <ct|kyle> kind*
20:21 <K-Yo> ct|kyle: :P
20:22 <ivantis> yeah
20:22 <ivantis> i am kind of retarded
20:22 <ivantis> at coding
20:23 <ct|kyle> ivantis: why not just USE scripts to do that stuff
20:23 <ivantis> i dont like scripts
20:23 <ivantis> theres just something about using scripts that i dont like...
20:26 <ct|kyle> you donno how to use them?
20:26 <ivantis> no
20:26 <ivantis> i just dont like them
20:26 <ivantis> something doesnt feel right about them
20:26 <ivantis> but i had a great idea for your scripting
20:27 <ivantis> settings that change variables in scripts
20:27 <K-Yo> xD
20:27 <ivantis> like a remote admin could say /admin SOMECOMMAND 0
20:27 <ivantis> and in the script it would change $SOMECOMMAND to 0
20:27 <ivantis> eh?
20:28 <ivantis> it would take a little bit of source coding
20:28 <ivantis> but it would be nice
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20:28 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i know exactly how i am going to do that eventually
20:29 <ivantis> how?
20:29 <ct|kyle> so easy with a script that does everything based on ladderlog.txt
20:30 <ct|kyle> ivantis: works the same way i have it send a web message to the server
20:30 <ivantis> oh yeah
20:30 <ivantis> a web message to the server?
20:30 <ivantis> why?
20:32 <ct|kyle> was important for battle servers we would lock out everyone so if someone wanted to join the had to send a message to get in
20:36 <ivantis> oh
20:39 <ivantis> do you think the command PID would be handy?
20:39 <ivantis> like supybots have a pid
20:39 <ivantis> command
21:10 <ivantis> look at http://space-lab.us/index.php
21:10 <ivantis> why is the PWD /home/ivantis?
21:17 <ivantis> php is funky
21:17 <ivantis> it knows all
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21:51 <luke-jr> guru3: any opposition to backporting MAP_ROTATE to 0.2.8?
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22:24 <epsy> in my mind, MAP_ROTATE is subject to change
22:26 <ct|kyle> MAP_ROTATION is was buggy and should be fixed first
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22:37 <RoGuE>  /suicide
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23:35 <epsy> /suicide
23:35 <epsy> HAHAHAH U GOT N0 P01NT5
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02:13  * ivantis just made his first C++ game
02:15 <StickyNoob> what game?
02:15 <ivantis> guess
02:15 <ivantis> you guess a number between 0 and 100
02:16 <StickyNoob> ouch, thats a wide range
02:16 <ivantis> its easy
02:16 <StickyNoob> average of 50 guesses
02:16 <ivantis> it tells you to go higher or lower
02:16 <StickyNoob> oh
02:16 <ivantis> average of 10 guesses
02:16 <StickyNoob> naaa
02:17 <StickyNoob> should be less than that
02:17 <ivantis> idk
02:18 <StickyNoob> average case should be log2(n)-1
02:20 <StickyNoob> 5.64
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02:21 <ivantis> @alias add todays-log fetch http://space-lab.us/todays-log.pl
02:21 <ivantis> oh yeah
02:21 <ivantis> im still being ignored
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02:36 <RoGuE> Hey, any of you ever used armabell?
02:37 <ivantis> no
02:40 <RoGuE> :/ boo
02:41 <RoGuE> It's a bunch of shiz that lucifer made
02:41 <RoGuE> http://fwt.txdnl.com/4-10/w/o/woof/var/ArmaTool_1.0.zip
02:42 <RoGuE> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=ArmaBell
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06:50 <luke-jr> did 0.3.1 ever get released?
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10:57 <Durka_tr> hello, anyone here? :\
11:02 <Durka_tr> damn
11:02 <Durka_tr> ghost town up in hurr
11:07 <fonkay> it's an odd time of day for most on here.
11:09 <Durka_tr> heh
11:09 <Durka_tr> fonkay, do u know anything about anything?
11:09 <fonkay> I know lots about some stuff..
11:10 <Durka_tr> fonkay: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=198981#198981
11:10 <Durka_tr> did i use logical thinking?
11:10 <fonkay> probably nothing that's helpful to you though.
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11:11 <Durka_tr> oops
11:11 <Durka_tr> back
11:13 <fonkay> Makes sense to me. You had a wanring that said the line was fucking up the system, so you deleted said line and the build succeeded.
11:13 <Durka_tr> heh
11:13 <Durka_tr> but i think i deleted an important line x_X
11:13 <fonkay> what
11:13 <fonkay>  does it mean??
11:13 <Durka_tr> idk :\
11:16 <Durka_tr> k cya
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11:19 <fonkay> Yep that was something important alright.
11:20 <fonkay> #include "nKrawall.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tString.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tConsole.h"
11:20 <fonkay> #include "tArray.h"
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11:53 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r880 Of course, pure touch does not clear the files, as the purpo...
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12:38 <Durka_tr> z-man: ping :)
12:39 <z-man> whut?
12:39 <z-man> Oh, that #include line? It's crap and is removed in bzr already.
12:40 <Durka_tr> sweet
12:40 <Durka_tr> and i just replied with another question
12:41 <Durka_tr> i figured i'd try and catch while u were here
12:41 <Durka_tr> rather than on another remote island with no internetz
12:41 <Durka_tr> x_X
12:42 <z-man> Answered it.
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12:44 <Durka_tr> well
12:44 <Durka_tr> this is the first time i've gotten that error
12:44 <Durka_tr> and i've been building the same way
12:45 <Durka_tr> except this time i took it from bzr and not that sourceforge svn stuff
12:45 <z-man> Hmm, then I don't know.
12:45 <Durka_tr> does that make a difference?
12:45 <z-man> Yes.
12:45 <Durka_tr> :P
12:45 <z-man> The version in alpha builds is retrieved from the source control.
12:45 <z-man> So modify that to "we can't be arsed to do X scripts for Y systems and Z version control schemes :)
12:46 <z-man> Plus, with BZR, you can't actually get a reliable version number; revision numbers can change when merging happens.
12:47 <Durka_tr> so
12:47 <Durka_tr> if i wouldve used svn
12:48 <Durka_tr> it wouldve attached that version thing
12:48 <Durka_tr> :|
12:48 <z-man> I guess. At least, I think nobody changed that stuff, so I see no reason why it would fail.
12:49 <Durka_tr> since im not a dev and not making/editing files and stuff
12:49 <Durka_tr> does it matter whether i use svn or bzr
12:49 <Durka_tr> it seems bzr updates faster
12:49 <Durka_tr> with the changes
12:54 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r881 Removed includes....
12:57 <Durka_tr> heh, fast as in like 15 minutes delayed :P
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13:01 <Durka_tr> cya
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14:05 <hoop> eddiefantastic: are you there? Flower Power is having connection issues
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21:35 <RoGuE> Hey guys :) hope everyone is having a great day.  Does anyone know where to get a good server browser monitor like this one here?  http://tron.art-pulse.net/armabrowser.php it doesn't have to be JUST like that, but i would like a good one.  :D thanks!
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21:45 <P4> RoGuE : like this one? http://crazy-tronners.com/serverbrowser :)
21:49 <P4> RoGuE: view-source:http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php ← here's the server feed
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22:03 <RoGuE> Wow... Wish i knew some php ;)
22:04 <RoGuE> Thanks P4
22:04 <P4> RoGuE: read some on http://php.net/ ;)
22:05 <RoGuE> Thanks :)
22:08 <RoGuE> Man, how did they get the site to read the "0xffffff" colors?  Thats armagetron only dude
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22:39 <ivantis> to get 0x****** colors, would it just be replacing it with like </font><font color="#******">?
22:40 <epsy> that's the unclean way to do it, yes :x
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22:40 <ivantis> whats the clean way?
22:40 <epsy> understanding the color
22:40 <ivantis> ?
22:41 <epsy> the, not using the 'font' tag
22:41 <epsy> then*
22:41 <ivantis> how else?
22:41 -!- Liza_ is now known as Liza
22:41 <epsy> the other way
22:42 <epsy> <span style="color: rgb( r, g, b ); background-color: transparent OR rgb ( 255, 255 ,255 )">text</span>
22:42 <ivantis> oh
22:42 <ivantis> <span style="color:#ffffff;">
22:42 <epsy> mh
22:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: err, what's the difference between font color=x and span style=color:x?
22:43 <epsy> I r dunt li3k color:#ffffff;
22:43 <wrtlprnft> semantically it's the same thing.
22:43 <ivantis> yeah
22:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, if i remember correctly, <font> isn't valid xhtml strict
22:43 <epsy> um, hi
22:43 <wrtlprnft> yeah, hi
22:43 <epsy> where you been?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> just busy
22:44 <wrtlprnft> and i lost my awaylog due to restarting my server
22:44 <ivantis> what happened to your armalogs?
22:44 <epsy> you weren't logging chatlogs anymore either
22:44 <ivantis> yeah
22:44 <epsy> armabot went down too, but hopefully the master is still up
22:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: because you should ideally neither use font color=x nor span style=color:x
22:44 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ideally
22:45 <wrtlprnft> the master is up
22:45 <ivantis> what did happen to your chatlogs?
22:45 <wrtlprnft> err, armabot doesn't start, got to check on that
22:45 <ivantis> run out of disk space?
22:45 <wrtlprnft> not this time, gotta check
22:45 <ivantis> epsy: finally, a bot that wont ignore me
22:46 <epsy>  *** ivantis is happy
22:46 <ivantis> howd ya know?
22:46 <wrtlprnft> armalogs look fine to me…
22:46 <ivantis> they ended
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22:46 <ivantis> 2008-08-22
22:46 <ivantis> is the last one
22:46  * ivantis started his own logs
22:47 <wrtlprnft> wtf?
22:47 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-09-08.txt
22:47 <ivantis> http://armalogs.space-lab.us
22:47 <ivantis> well
22:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wtf armabot?
22:47 <epsy> well that was h4x
22:47 <ivantis> you were missing them since 08-22 a little ago
22:47 <wrtlprnft>   File "/usr/bin/supybot", line 36, in <module>
22:47 <wrtlprnft>     import supybot
22:47 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named supybot
22:48 <epsy> (note the spaces carefully)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> maybe the script was indeed killed due to disk overflow
22:48 <ivantis> great
22:48 <epsy> #ping
22:48 <epsy> :)
22:49 <ivantis> Q:	What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
22:49 <ivantis> A:	Open other end.
22:49 <wrtlprnft> grml, and i should really find time to fix my server
22:49 <ivantis> my fortune of the day
22:49 <ivantis> had to go to work?
22:49  * ivantis has had to go to school
22:50 <epsy> th15 15 ch405!!!
22:50 <wrtlprnft> well, given that we STILL have conscription I was pretty much forced to start my alternative civil service
22:50 <wrtlprnft> and so i am busy and not even paid a lot
22:52 <wrtlprnft> and the best thing is that all those bastards who didn't get an Y chromosome have a free ticket out of this entire crap
22:53 <wrtlprnft> so… is released yet? :o
22:55  * ivantis is mirroring the resource repository right now
22:55 <teabot> no it isn't
22:55 <ivantis> i didnt know wget had a -mirror option until yesterday
22:55  * luke-jr blocks ivantis from the repository
22:56 <ivantis> exactly, thats why im mirroring it
22:56 <epsy> lol
22:56 <luke-jr> ivantis: no, I'm blocking you because you're abusing it :þ
22:56 <luke-jr> there is a correct well-documented way to mirror it
22:56 <ivantis> but why do you say things about people can mirror it?
22:56 <luke-jr> and then there is flooding the HTTP servers
22:56 <epsy> you're meant to sync with rsync
22:56 <ivantis> oh
22:56 <ivantis> server?
22:56 <wrtlprnft> <luke-jr> RTFM
22:57 <ivantis> rsync://resource.armagetronad.net?
22:57 <luke-jr> rsync://master.resource.armagetronad.net/armagetron-resource
22:57 <ivantis> ok
23:02 <wrtlprnft> armabot coming up…
23:02 <wrtlprnft> python's module system is weird.
23:03 <epsy> the next one to enter is gay!!!!!!!!11111
23:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
23:03 <@wrtlprnft> /kick epsy 
23:03 <@wrtlprnft> (and wait for him to reenter)
23:03 <epsy> oh, sorry, lesbian :o)
23:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by wrtlprnft
23:03 <ct|kyle> o0 wrtlprnft it's alive
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23:04 <ivantis> yay!
23:04 <ivantis> #ping
23:04 <epsy> omg a lesbian !!!111!1!111111ELEVEN
23:04 <ivantis> doesnt work
23:04  * epsy takes the plane down
23:04 <ct|kyle> #ping
23:04 <armabot> pong
23:04 <epsy> ivantis, takes time
23:04 <hoax> fuck armabot where's cafe
23:04 <epsy> hahaha ivantis
23:04 <armabot> pong
23:04 <ivantis> #ping
23:05 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: remember to ignore ivantis
23:05 <armabot> pong
23:05 <ivantis> yayay!
23:05 <ivantis> nononono
23:05 <wrtlprnft> hoax: it's already painful enough without people reminding me
23:05 <epsy> #echo @ping
23:05 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: (hi :) how's things?), I have logs for those missing days if you want them
23:05 <ivantis> dont ignore me
23:05 <ivantis> eddie: theyre there already
23:05 <ivantis> which reminds me
23:05 <hoax> haha ok sry bro, just checkin :D
23:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't even have time to read the ones i have
23:05 <armabot> @ping
23:05 <ivantis> no further use for my logs
23:05  * ivantis is removing loggerbot_*
23:05 <wrtlprnft> and i lost my awaylog, and i'm too lazy to grep my logs manually
23:05 <eddiefantastic> oh yeah, so they are, silly me
23:05 <eddiefantastic> I was looking at the date column
23:06 <epsy> wrtlprnft, let me sum it up
23:06 <epsy> « where is cafe ?? »
23:06 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:18fc:16e6:0:1d:0:0:7034] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:06 <epsy> « where is armabot ?? »
23:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: not sure we need armabot anymore :þ
23:06 <luke-jr> there's ljrbot, loggerbot_8, teabot, and tronner now
23:06 <luke-jr> #ping
23:06 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:18fc:16e6:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:06 <wrtlprnft> actually the fact that i lost my awaylog is one of the reasons why i checked in here again. I was too lazy to look at the huge pile of messages
23:06 <epsy> « where is server stats ?? »
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23:07 <wrtlprnft> gotta have more bots than users in #armagetron, right?
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23:07 <armabot> pong
23:07 <wrtlprnft> oh, did i mention that armabot is slow as ever
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23:08 <epsy> we could figure it out :P
23:08 <epsy> @echo #ping
23:08 <teabot> #ping
23:08 <armabot> pong
23:08 <epsy> meh
23:09 <wrtlprnft> @echo #time [time]
23:09 <teabot> #time 02:10 PM, September 08, 2008
23:09 <epsy> wrtlprnft, *!*bot*@* and *bot*!*@* work pretty well
23:09 <armabot> teabot: Error: 'PM,' is not a valid floating point number.
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23:11 <ivantis> http://resource.space-lab.us/resource/
23:11 <ivantis> luke-jr: btw, ljrbot still goes to #armagetron-dev
23:11 <luke-jr> ivantis: I think you MISSED THE POINT
23:11 <ivantis> what point?
23:12 <ivantis> okay
23:12 <ivantis> chill
23:12 <luke-jr> and stop giving us bad links :þ
23:12 <ivantis> that isnt a bad link
23:12 <ivantis> foo
23:12 <luke-jr> yes it is
23:12 <ivantis> it doesnt load for you?
23:12 <ivantis> how odd
23:12 <wrtlprnft> nope
23:13 <ivantis> well, it works for getting resources for clients
23:13 <ivantis> like my map and my dtd which you dont like
23:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe a DNS update thing
23:13 <ivantis> *.space-lab.us is a CNAME to ivantis.ath.cx
23:14 <ivantis> oh yeah, for some reason sometimes file list pages dont work for some people
23:16 <ivantis> vhost configuration file?
23:16 <luke-jr> Timeout on server
23:16 <luke-jr> Connection was to resource.space-lab.us at port 80
23:16 <ivantis> i just edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
23:16 <luke-jr> points to 63-245-159-78.kitusa.com
23:16 <ivantis> thats weird
23:16 <ivantis> yeah
23:16 <ivantis> my dns
23:16 <ivantis> try a map file
23:17 <ivantis> index pages sometimes dont work
23:17 <luke-jr> u r screwed up
23:17 <luke-jr> just FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS
23:17 <ivantis> why and how?
23:17 <ivantis> for what???
23:17 <ivantis> it works just fine for me
23:18 <wrtlprnft> probably got to do with that sneak .htaccess file that's on the rsync server
23:18 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=How_to_become_a_resource_repository_mirror
23:18 <ivantis> im reading it
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23:19 <wrtlprnft> by the way, have there be any sightings of ph?
23:20 <epsy> not really
23:20 <wrtlprnft> just irreal sightings?
23:20 <epsy> :)
23:20 <luke-jr> :o
23:22 <ivantis> luke-jr: what would my mirror number be?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> sqrt(-1764)
23:22 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(-1764)
23:23 <luke-jr> ivantis: you can be eight
23:23 <wrtlprnft> just checking if that still works
23:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(-1,764) = 42 i
23:23 <wrtlprnft> woot
23:23 <ivantis> great
23:23 <ivantis> #8
23:23 <epsy> #list qgoogle
23:23 <ivantis> so ServerName 8.resource.aa.dashjr.org?
23:23 <armabot> epsy: Error: 'qgoogle' is not a valid plugin.
23:23 <epsy> oh, you have a SOAP key..
23:23 <wrtlprnft> :-)
23:23 <luke-jr> no, eight
23:23 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
23:23 <luke-jr> not 8
23:24 <ivantis> ok
23:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
23:24 <ct|kyle> :) works
23:24  * wrtlprnft curses google for not giving these out anymore
23:24 <ivantis> yeah
23:24 <ivantis> youre using lucifers arent you?
23:24 <wrtlprnft> because they realized they can't put ads on those results
23:24 <epsy> i'm using the QGoogle plugin, i can use an ajax key with it
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23:24 <wrtlprnft> if the only way to use google results is some JS/AJAX library they can put whatever they please
23:25 <epsy> trough, for a very strange reason, it's _always_ the Google plugin which will handle the google command
23:26 <ivantis> luke-jr: rsync: send_files failed to open "/add-resource.htpasswd.bak" (in armagetron-resource): Permission denied (13)
23:26 <epsy> i can even try disabling it, it will still use it
23:26 <ivantis> what does that mean?
23:26 <luke-jr> ivantis: ignore it
23:26 <ivantis> k
23:26 <luke-jr> it means you don't get a copy of the passwords
23:26 <luke-jr> :þ
23:26 <epsy> note to self: never trust python
23:26 <epsy> why not?
23:27 <wrtlprnft> you have to know that yourself
23:27 <wrtlprnft> after all it is a note to yourself
23:27 <ivantis> luke-jr: rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1385) [generator=2.6.9]
23:27 <ivantis> is that bad?
23:27 <epsy> ivantis, that's the other file
23:28 <epsy> *because of the other file
23:28 <ivantis> nice one: [Mon Sep 08 16:26:53 2008] [error] VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results
23:28 <luke-jr> ivantis: no
23:29 <luke-jr> ivantis: so fix your apache config
23:30 <ivantis> it says forbidden
23:30 <ivantis> when i try to go in browser
23:31 <ivantis> localhost/armagetron
23:31 <luke-jr> …
23:31 <ivantis> chmod 755 /var/www/armagetron
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23:31 <ivantis> and it still doesnt work
23:31 <epsy> gn
23:31 <ivantis> ?
23:31 <epsy> ivantis, apache config
23:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: it doesn't use localhost
23:32 <epsy> GN = Good Night
23:32 <epsy> #night
23:32 <epsy> :)
23:32 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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23:34 <ivantis> route eight.resource.aa.dashjr.org to ivantis.ath.cx
23:34 <ivantis> see if it works then
23:36 <ivantis> wtf am i doing wrong?
23:37 <ivantis> the end of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: http://pastebin.com/m433c03ad
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23:42 <ivantis> luke-jr: hmm?
23:50 <luke-jr> ivantis: not my fault if you're too dumb to configure apache properly

Log from 2008-09-09:
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00:00 -!- hoop [n=john@ip-192-12.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <ivantis> hey
00:00 <hoop> =)
00:00 <ivantis> luke-jr: i was using your stupid configuration on the mirroring wiki which you told me to read
00:00 <ivantis> dummy
00:00 <ivantis> okay
00:00 <luke-jr> and that part works fine
00:01 <luke-jr> it's the rest of your crappy config that doesn't
00:01 <ivantis> not for me
00:01 <ivantis> w/e
00:01 <luke-jr> and the fact that you're editing 000-default
00:01 <luke-jr> which you shouldn't
00:01 <ivantis> so?
00:01 <ivantis> oh well
00:02 <ivantis> okay, hoop
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00:02 <ivantis> send me your gWinZone.cpp code
00:02 <ivantis> is that the only file effected with your rubber zones hack?
00:02 <hoop> not only
00:02 <ivantis> what other file(s)?
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00:03 <hoop> in gCycleMovements.h
00:03 <ivantis> okay
00:03 <ivantis> send me all effected files
00:03 <hoop> there's a private SetRubber()
00:03 <hoop> i just changed it to public
00:04 <hoop> gWinZone.cpp: http://pastebin.com/m1f02a092
00:04 <ivantis> okay
00:04 <hoop> there are other changes here to
00:04 <hoop> about the race timer
00:04 <ivantis> okay
00:04 <hoop> you can't use it as it is
00:04 <ivantis> ill just focus on rubber zones
00:05 <hoop> search for DZ_RUBBER
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00:05 <hoop> of '//HACK'
00:05 <hoop> or*
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00:08 <ivantis> on target->Player()->AddScore( score_deathzone, tOutput(), "$player_lose_deathzone" ); in sg_DeathZoneHurtRubber, you could put a special language setting for rubber zones
00:09 <ivantis> your code is much cleaner than mine
00:09  * ivantis is a slob who never uses comments
00:11 <hoop> in language/english_base.txt: player_lose_deathzone	\1 exploded on a deathzone and lost \2 points.\n
00:12 <hoop> oops nvm
00:12 <ivantis> make it player_lose_rubberzone \1 ran out of rubber on a rubber-zone and lost \2 points.\n
00:12 <ivantis> and add that in target->Player()->AddScore( score_deathzone, tOutput(), "$player_lose_rubberzone" );
00:12 <hoop> yea, it was one thing to do I forgot to do XD
00:14 <hoop> I dont think it should be a new zone type tho
00:14 <hoop> it kills you like death zones do
00:14 <ivantis> maybe not
00:14 <ivantis> yeah
00:14 <hoop> and a map with both types will result confusing
00:14 <ivantis> can you figure out why this code wouldnt work?
00:15 <hoop> cant compile it?
00:15 <ivantis> sorry its really sloppy, http://pastebin.com/m432d2e20
00:15 <ivantis> yeah, i can compile it, it works only once after the server is started, and then doesnt do anything
00:15 <ivantis> very odd
00:16 <ivantis> #list alias
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, (4 more messages)
00:16 <ivantis> #ivantis
00:16 <hoop> lol @ gArena & arena = Arena;
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 16 minutes ago.
00:16 <ivantis> yes that code
00:16 <ivantis> #help crashme
00:16 <armabot> ivantis: (crashme <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Okay, guys, how about we NOT try to crash me?".
00:17 <hoop> have you read the last part of your thread?
00:17 <ivantis> no
00:17 <ivantis> wow, ok :)
00:17 <ivantis> ?
00:18 <ivantis> is that it?
00:18 <hoop> you way shouldn't matter, it's just useless
00:18 <ivantis> whats useless?
00:19 <ivantis> oh that
00:19 <hoop> I just saw your not even using Arena in code
00:19 <ivantis> yes i am
00:19 <ivantis> arena.leastdangerousspawnpoint
00:19 <hoop> ^^
00:19 <hoop> not Arena
00:20 <ivantis> whatever
00:20 <hoop> ah ok, nvm XD
00:20 <hoop> im wrong
00:20 <ivantis> but can you figure out why it wouldnt work?
00:20 <hoop> be more specific, what's not working?
00:20 <ivantis> #/me is puzzled at why ivantis' code wont work
00:20  * armabot is puzzled at why ivantis' code wont work
00:20 <ivantis> come to my server, see
00:21 <ivantis> custom connect: armaserver.space-lab.us port 4537
00:25 <ivantis> did you leave yet?
00:26 <ivantis> its very odd
00:26 <hoop> what command output?
00:26 <ivantis> idk
00:26 <ivantis> but how its executed
00:27 <ivantis> idk
00:27 <hoop> are you using a script?
00:27 <ivantis> no
00:27 <ivantis> did you look at http://pastebin.com/m432d2e20 ?
00:28 <hoop> yes im looking
00:30 <hoop> is there other code?
00:30 <ivantis> no
00:30 <ivantis> thats it
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00:31 <ivantis> wait..
00:31 <ivantis> i think i might know how to make it work...
00:35 <ivantis> im recompiling
00:35 <ivantis> hold on
00:36 <ivantis> nvm
00:36 <ivantis> still doesnt work
00:36 <ivantis> well, ponder over my code will you?
00:36 <ivantis> i have to go to tennis lessons soon
00:38 <hoop> i'd need to compile it myself and do some test
00:38 <ivantis> see ya hoop
00:38 <ivantis> ill bbl
00:38 <ivantis> wait...
00:38 <ivantis> i just remembered something...
00:38 <ivantis> if you uncomment that last block of code
00:38 <ivantis> in it thats commented with /*
00:39 <ivantis> on the second time you enter the zone it collapses for some odd reason
00:39 <ivantis> play around with it and tell me your findings
00:39 <ivantis> i g2g
00:39 <hoop> see ya
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00:47  * Lucifer_pen thinks we should rename this channel to #12yomonologue
00:49  * fonkay thinks this channel needs more luci.
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01:07 <Lucifer_pen> luci?  who's that?
01:07 <fonkay> You
01:08 <Lucifer_pen> oh!
01:08 <fonkay> You've always been Luci darlin'
01:08 <Lucifer_pen> er, atually, this whole divorce thing is kind of occupying most of my time right now :(
01:08 <fonkay> yea, that'll do it.
01:09 <Lucifer_pen> the good news is that we can appear in court as early as November 4 with our papers in hand and be pronounced divorced by a judge
01:10 <fonkay> But it's been too quiet 'round here
01:10 <Lucifer_pen> well, I can talk about my divorce and job search, heh
01:10 <fonkay> Sounds uplifting.
01:10 <Lucifer_pen> :/
01:11 <Lucifer_pen> actualy, some folks around here are supposed to be part of my support structure, but because of where I'm staying, I can't actually be here very much :(
01:13 <fonkay> Are you still schooling?
01:14 <Lucifer_pen> no classes this semester
01:14 <Lucifer_pen> trying to transfer for the spring semester, though
01:15 <ivantis> why divorce?
01:15 <ivantis> you have kids dont you?
01:15 <ivantis> it must be hard for them
01:15 <ivantis> my parents arent divorced, i dont think they will be
01:15 <Lucifer_pen> yeah, why don't you take a guess how many times I"ve heard that in the last 2 weeks?
01:16  * ivantis 's tennis lessons were cancelled due to rain?
01:16 <ivantis> a lot?
01:16 <Lucifer_pen> divorce isn't easy for anybody, and anybody telling you that is selling something
01:16 <Lucifer_pen> really, my marriage was over several years ago, it just took us that long to figure it out
01:16 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: divorce on election day LOL
01:17 <ivantis> divorce on my birthday
01:17 <fonkay> I'm not going to partake in a divorce pro/con debate, but it can be good for kids as often as it can be hard on them.
01:17  * ivantis 's birthday is november 4th
01:17 <Lucifer_pen> fonkay: afaik, it depends on the marriage and the individuals and how they handle the kids
01:17  * ivantis will turn 14 in like 2 months!
01:17 <Lucifer_pen> we're getting along so far, and working it out pretty peacefully
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> in fact, there's only one sticdking point that I'm aware of
01:18 <fonkay> Sucks about the no class luci. One less thing to occupy your brain.
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> I don't think I could handle a load of classes right now
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> I sat down to do some sql problems for a job I was trying to get and I just couldn't concentrate on them
01:18 <Lucifer_pen> wound up emailing the guy back, telling him what was going on, and apologizing for not b eing able to do it
01:18 <ivantis> i dont think i can handle a load of classes right now
01:19 <Lucifer_pen> the geology lady offered me extra hours, though, so I'm not too far from being situated for employment
01:19 <fonkay> Yea, I suppose it would depend on you. I would rather lots of class/work/anything to keep my mind busy at nights. But compound stress can be bad too.
01:20 <fonkay> I'd offer work/money/support if I had any to give.
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> being busy at nights, or rather not having anything to do at nights, has been slowly driving me crazy
01:21 <fonkay> I'd make the worst councelor ever.
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> I finally went down and bought a book
01:21 <Lucifer_pen> well, two books.  One on the laws of divorce in texas, and one on the psychological stuff
01:22 <Lucifer_pen> I don't know that you'd be a bad counselor.  All a counselor has to do is listen :)
01:22 <Lucifer_pen> http://brainden.com/best-puzzles.htm
01:23 <Lucifer_pen> well, the last students left my lab, which means I'm probably going to go downstairs and read my book
01:23 <Lucifer_pen> maybe now would be a time for somebody to start up another version of the werewolf game
01:24 <Lucifer_pen> that game has a way of taking over a life for a short period of time ;)
01:24 <Lucifer_pen> anyway, bbiab
01:25 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: freediv
01:25 <ct|kyle> civ*
01:25 <fonkay> later kiddo.
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01:29  * fonkay agrees with luci.
01:29 <fonkay> guru3?
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01:48 <ivantis> Lucifer: how come your ACME map editor doesnt support zones?
01:55 <luke-jr> ivantis: zones probably didn't exist when he wrote it
01:55 <ivantis> oh
01:55 <luke-jr> at least not as a map element
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01:58 <ivantis> luke-jr: would it be rediculously hard to add an element to <ShapeCircle radius="4"> like to make it <ShapeCircle radius="4" somethingelse="value">?
01:59 <ivantis> im looking at gParser.cpp and gWinZone.cpp
01:59 <luke-jr> ivantis: that doesn't even make sense
01:59 <ivantis> ?
02:03 <ivantis> luke-jr: C++ question: fallSpeed_ = speed; return *this; would return the value of speed as the variable fallSpeed_, correct?
02:03 <luke-jr> wtf
02:04 <luke-jr> are you insane?
02:04 <ivantis> im guessin thats a no?
02:04 <luke-jr> you ARE insane
02:04 <luke-jr> -.-
02:04 <ivantis> but is that right?
02:04 <ivantis> or not
02:04 <luke-jr> of course not
02:05 <ivantis> what would it return?
02:05 <luke-jr> a copy of 'this'
02:06 <ivantis> uh
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02:06 <ivantis> i dont see 'this' declared anywhere
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02:08 <ivantis> oh right, i get it now
02:08 <ivantis> nvm
02:09  * ivantis is a C++ dummy
02:11 <ivantis> im thinking of making <ShapeCircle xspawn="coord" yspawn="coord" xdir="dir" ydir="dir"> for teleporting
02:11 <ivantis> and the teleport zones will interpret those
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21:50  * wrtlprnft is waiting for the day ms drops using .bmp by default
21:51 <epsy> didn't they do already?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> someone figured out that they could use printscreen on the dialog they can't answer and paste that into a mail to me. as a freaking 6MB BMP file.
21:51 <epsy> ah
21:52 <wrtlprnft> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
21:52 <wrtlprnft> could have guessed that
21:52 <epsy> my first question is, what was the dialog's size(in pixels) ?
21:52 <wrtlprnft> well, the screen's, actually
21:52 <wrtlprnft> the dialog is quite small
21:52 <epsy> Windows Live Mail is a web app, isn't it?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> err, no?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> it's outlook for vista
21:53 <wrtlprnft> preinstalld.
21:53 <wrtlprnft> *preinstalled
21:53 <epsy> i think you had to pay to watch your msn emails using a real web client
21:54 <epsy> (well, using MS's way, and considering you don't pay the computer and the OEM)
21:54 <wrtlprnft> what's msn got to do whith it?
21:54 <hoax> win live mail is what they call webmail now
21:54 <wrtlprnft> it's a provider provided email address
21:54 <epsy> a windows live e-mail account is paired with an windows live messenger account
21:55 <epsy> ah
21:55 <epsy> MS supports POP3 ?
21:55 <wrtlprnft> on the client side :-)
21:55 <wrtlprnft> they pretty much have to
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22:30  * ivantis finished his SWEET map hack yesterday
22:30 <K-Yo> ivantis: what the fuck is that again?
22:31 <ivantis> its sweet
22:31 <epsy> how is it sweet?
22:31 <ivantis> which reminds me, i should bzr push now...
22:31 <epsy> (great timing btw)
22:31 <K-Yo> ivantis: running on ur server now?
22:31 <ivantis> yeah
22:31 <K-Yo> let's see
22:32 <ivantis> <ShapeCircle radius="4" xdir="1" ydir="1" xpos="10" ypos="10">, the xdir ydir xpos ypos stuff is for where the player will teleport when entering the zone
22:32 <epsy> erm
22:32 <epsy> wouldn't that belong to the effect part?
22:33 <epsy> that's the SHAPE part
22:35 <ivantis> i am not doing all that coding again
22:35 <K-Yo> hahaha
22:35 <ivantis> shut up
22:35 <K-Yo> his stuff is still totally fucked up
22:35 <K-Yo> :P
22:35 <ivantis> anyway, in <Zone>, the client also reads that
22:35 <ivantis> i hate messing with client stuff
22:36 <ivantis> and epsy
22:36 <K-Yo> ivantis: what did you hack? sty+ct or trunk or 0.2.8 ?
22:36 <ivantis> one more bug to squish
22:36 <ivantis> sty+ct
22:36 <K-Yo> ok
22:36 <ivantis> it uses RESPAWN_PLAYER actually
22:36 <epsy> i don't fix bugs on sty+ct
22:36 <K-Yo> soon you'll launch your own branch: sty+ct+ivantis
22:36 <epsy> mainly because i don't have access to it
22:36 <epsy> K-Yo, he did
22:36 <ivantis> well, tell me if this one line wouldnt work
22:36 <K-Yo> nowai
22:36 <K-Yo> haha
22:36 <ivantis> i havent pushed to it yet
22:36 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~ivantis/armagetronad/sty+ct+ivantis
22:37 <K-Yo> hahahahahha
22:37 <K-Yo> 1337h4x?
22:37 <ivantis> yeah
22:37 <K-Yo> .lamometer 1337h4x
22:37 <ivantis> my 1337h4x
22:37 <K-Yo> .nickometer 1337h4x
22:37 <tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337h4x" is 99.2%.
22:37 <K-Yo> woot!
22:37 <ivantis> epsy: why wouldnt this work?
22:37 <ivantis> 	target->Kill();
22:37 <ivantis>     	static tString str ("RESPAWN_PLAYER ");
22:37 <ivantis> 	str << ePlayerNetID::FilterName(target->Player()->GetUserName()) << " 0 " << GetXPos() << " " << GetYPos() << " " << GetXDir() << " " << GetYDir();
22:38 <ivantis> it works for the first player, but it doesnt respawn the second player
22:38 <ivantis> i dont understand why
22:38 <epsy> 1/ becayse target doesnt exist
22:38 <ivantis> yes it does
22:38 <epsy> 2/ because str doesn't exist
22:38 <ivantis> gCycle * target
22:38 <ivantis> its in a zone thing
22:38 <ivantis> onEnter
22:38 <epsy> 3/ because you did not have ePlayerNedID stuff in there
22:39 <epsy> 4/ because target->Player() does not exist
22:39 <ivantis> dude, i just said "it works for the first player just fine"
22:39 <epsy> enough?
22:40 <ivantis> need to see the whole block? http://pastebin.com/m475608b7
22:40 <epsy> actually, i don't even know what's going wrong?
22:40 <ivantis> yeah
22:40 <ivantis> its very odd
22:40 <epsy> oh, poor you
22:40 <ivantis> oh you dont know whats going wrong
22:40 <ivantis> come to my serv for a sec, ill show you
22:40 <epsy> it may be very odd, i still don"'t know what's going wrong
22:41 <ivantis> wtf? it stopped working again
22:51 <ivantis> k-yo: i think i fixed, will you come back and try it again?
22:52 <K-Yo> yep
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22:55 <RoGuE> wd ivantis
22:55 <RoGuE> lol
22:55 <RoGuE> what did you do to the server
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22:56 <ivantis> okay epsy, i fixed it without any help from you
22:56 <K-Yo> ivantis: it ALWAYS teleports me to the same place
22:56 <ivantis>  <ShapeCircle radius="4" xdir="1" ydir="1" xpos="10" ypos="10">
22:56 <ivantis> thats in the map
22:56 <epsy> i did not give any help, since you did not even tell me what was the problem
22:56 <epsy> so what
22:56 <ivantis> nvm epsy
22:56 <RoGuE> ivantis, you sure?  when i try to connect it gives me an xml error
22:57 <epsy> so, stfu
22:57 <ivantis> uh
22:57 <ivantis> let me fix that rogue
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23:05 <ivantis> hold on...
23:08 <ivantis> fixed
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23:14 <ivantis> does anyone know how to login to push with bzr?
23:14 <luke-jr> probably a good thing that you're too dumb to read what bzr told you
23:25 <ivantis> luke-jr: there is a light on my computer (DELL dimension 4600) that is next to an image that looks kind of like a jar, when its on my computer is usually processing something. what does it mean?
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23:37 <noob13> .joint
23:37  * tronner rolls 139 joints and passes them to tronner, zmanuel and P4
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23:45 <ivantis> why the hell does "bzr commit -m "first commit"" take so long and make my computer so slow?
23:45 <ivantis> xchat crashed
23:45 <ivantis> it stopped at "added language" and is still doing something stupid
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23:51 <ivantis> ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.
23:52 <ivantis> oh finally, bzr stopped
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Log from 2008-09-10:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 10 2008
00:14 <ivantis> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199002#199002
00:19 <luke-jr> ivantis: wtf
00:19 <luke-jr> RESPAWN_PLAYER_RANDOM does nothing random?
00:19 <ivantis> yeah it does
00:19 <ivantis> did you already compile it?
00:19 <luke-jr> your description says it's not at all random
00:20 <ivantis> well
00:20 <ivantis> you cant tell where it will be
00:20 <luke-jr> yes you can
00:20 <ivantis> no
00:20 <ivantis> you cant
00:21 <ivantis> how could you tell?
00:21 <ivantis> Arena.LeastDangerousSpawnPoint is hard to guess
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00:21 <tehwikiistehpwnz> kthx, whats up ivantis?
00:22 <ivantis> who are you?
00:22 <tehwikiistehpwnz> rogue
00:22 <tehwikiistehpwnz> lol
00:22 <ivantis> oh
00:22 -!- tehwikiistehpwnz is now known as rogue
00:22 <rogue> I'm catching a cold :(
00:22 <ivantis> ugh
00:22 <rogue> I know :/
00:22 <ivantis> i didnt feel that great today either
00:23 <ivantis> i had a bad headache during school
00:23 <rogue> ew
00:23 <rogue> lol, what new projects you working on?
00:23 <ivantis> nothing
00:23 <rogue>  /@
00:23 <rogue> :D
00:23 <ivantis> hmm
00:23 <ivantis> why would that be useful?
00:23 <rogue> it just is in my server lol
00:23 <ivantis> oh
00:24 <ivantis> /@ already exists? why did you ask me for it?
00:24 <rogue> no, it doesn't.  I meant it is just useful in my server
00:25 <ivantis> oh
00:25 <ivantis> well, i guess
00:25 <ivantis> there probably is a really easy way to do it
00:25 <ivantis> just like KILL_ALL
00:25 <ivantis> …
00:25 <rogue> yeah
00:25 <ivantis> which i forgot to mention in my post...
00:25 <ivantis> hold on
00:25 <rogue> k
00:27 <ivantis> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199003#199002
00:27 <ivantis> thats my post
00:28 <rogue> ew it only works on ct+sty build?
00:28 <ivantis> ?
00:28 <ivantis> no
00:29 <rogue> ok good
00:29 <rogue> hehe
00:29 <ivantis> it only works on my build
00:29 <ivantis> which is written on top of sty+ct
00:30 <ivantis> anyway, someone needs to make a cool map for it
00:30 <ivantis> with separated boxes that have teleport zones in them
00:30 <ivantis> rogue, you good at maps?
00:30 <rogue> aww :( i just want the death zone code and kill_all in my server
00:30 <rogue> and no, im not :/
00:30 <ivantis> dude
00:30 <ivantis> why not all the other stuff too?
00:31 <rogue> lol cuz it will get abused in my server
00:31 <luke-jr> rogue: if ivantis had any idea how to handle code, it'd be trivial to merge just one
00:31 <ivantis> luke-jr: i have some idea how to handle code
00:31 <luke-jr> rogue: just the other day he was talking about returning variables (not values thereof, but variables themselves)
00:31  * rogue Laughs. kthx xD
00:32 <ivantis> luke-jr: it was because i was confused and looking at the wrong block of code
00:32 <rogue> luke you are gunna get pwnt
00:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: that excuse doesn't fly
00:32 <ivantis> my map settings thing worked out really well
00:32 <ivantis> what about that huh? huh?
00:33 <luke-jr> ROFL
00:33 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18676
00:33 <luke-jr> gArena arena = Arena;
00:33 <luke-jr> lol
00:33 <ivantis> shut up
00:33  * ivantis really, REALLY needs to finish his C++ book
00:33 <ivantis> really
00:33 <ivantis> like, for real
00:34 <ivantis> luke-jr: well, what about KILL_ALL? i only got one piece of help from epsy, and that was him telling me of the bug in it (which i fixed)
00:35 <rogue> I have to admit luke-jr, he did pretty well, i tested most of it.
00:35 <rogue> I like the idea of impersonate too :D
00:35 <rogue> sounds fun
00:35 <ivantis> uh
00:36 <rogue> hu
00:36 <ivantis> the only reason i didnt make a command that would let you impersonate a player really easily (like IMPERSONATE <name> <text>) is because that, i can tell, would be abused
00:36 <ivantis> even though i could make it like that
00:37 <rogue> make it like that, i want to abuse luke when he comes to my server
00:37 <rogue> do it do it
00:37 <ivantis> that would be mean,
00:37 <rogue> no no no
00:37 <rogue> not at all :D
00:37 <ivantis> like some people have said to me, you need to work on your netiquette
00:38 <rogue> o.O
00:38 <ivantis> look at that, luke-jr logged out of the forums without posting some weird reply to me
00:39 <rogue> luke-jr, don't forget to register here plz.  http://vclclan.info
00:39 <rogue> lol
00:39 <ivantis> oh, you guys bought a domain name?
00:39 <rogue> we've...had one
00:39 <rogue> lol
00:39 <ivantis> most clans have a co.cc or co.nr
00:39 <ivantis> why not vclclan.net?
00:39 <rogue> haha we aren't "most clans"
00:39 <ivantis> .nets are cooler
00:39 <rogue> meh
00:39 <ivantis> ivantis.net, space-lab.us are mine
00:40 <rogue> nice
00:40 <rogue> i might buy a .com
00:40 <ivantis> not worth it
00:40 <ivantis> .coms are overrated
00:40 <rogue> heh
00:40 <ivantis> where did you buy it from?
00:40 <rogue> godaddy
00:41 <ivantis> i got mine at domains.yahoo.com
00:41 <ivantis> like cheapest there
00:41 <rogue> lol
00:41 <ivantis> about $30 a year
00:41 <rogue> LOL
00:42 <rogue> oh for both?  I guess that's alright
00:42 <ivantis> no
00:42 <ivantis> for 1
00:42 <ivantis> its a little cheaper for your first one
00:43  * ivantis registered on vclclan.info
00:43 <teabot> armacommits: [sty+ct+ivantis] r2 first commit || [sty+ct+ivantis] r1 first commit
00:44 <ivantis> how does teabot know that?
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00:45 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8551 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Durkas Mac builds
00:45 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
00:46 <luke-jr> rogue: boo godaddy
00:46 <rogue> $30 a year?
00:46 <rogue> for .net?
00:47 <rogue> godaddy is $10.99/yr
00:47 <rogue> boo luke-jr
00:47 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=webhost
00:47 <rogue> ew, man you are trying to make a poor man go poorerer
00:47 <rogue> I have a good host already :D
00:48 <luke-jr> :þ
00:48 <rogue> hey luke, read your pm
00:48 <luke-jr> MyDomain is $8.75/yr
00:48 <luke-jr> so there
00:48 <rogue> there so
00:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: get on jabber, i wanna see if it is still messed up
00:50 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18527
00:50 <rogue> hi kyle :)
00:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm always on
00:50 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: still fucked up
00:51 <ct|kyle> i'll have a real jabber account in a few more months hopefully :)
00:51 <rogue> luke... why did you link that?
00:52 <rogue> a hacker is among us!
00:52 <rogue> lol
00:52 <luke-jr> rogue: someone lamer than you
00:52 <rogue> impossible!
00:52 <rogue> man imma shoot him up
00:52 <luke-jr> err
00:52 <luke-jr> s/rogue/ivantis/
00:52 <rogue> LOL!
00:52 <rogue> pooned!
00:53 <ivantis> err
00:53 <ivantis> s/luke-jr/idiot/
00:53 <rogue> pooned again
00:54 <luke-jr> ivantis: you fail miserably
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00:54 <luke-jr> lm8o: ivantis is fail
00:54 <lm8o> ? lol
00:54 <rogue> lol
00:54 <ivantis> hey lm8o
00:54 <lm8o> hi
00:55 <ivantis> welcome to IRC :D
00:55 <lm8o> thanks
00:55 <rogue> Hey LUKE, guess what
00:55 <ivantis> s/LUKE/idiot/
00:55 <rogue> hehe
00:55 <lm8o> ol
00:55 <luke-jr> ivantis pretends he understand s///
00:56 <rogue> xD
00:56 <luke-jr> rogue: you live in South Carolina, near York.
00:56 <luke-jr> did I guess right?
00:56 <rogue> no, you guessed wrong lol
00:56 <luke-jr> <.<
00:56 <ivantis> s/"pretends he understand"/understands/
00:56 <rogue> No where near South Carolina
00:56 <rogue> Although, i did live there before
00:56 <luke-jr> <.<
00:56 <rogue> I am in Alabama
00:57 <luke-jr> FreeNode sez u lie :o
00:57 <ivantis> luke-jr: i live no where near where i get my internet
00:57 <ivantis> foo'
00:57 <luke-jr> ivantis: join #anime so I can kick you
00:57 <ivantis> no
00:57 <lm8o> luke
00:57 <rogue> heh, my IP has always done that luke
00:57 <ivantis> unless i can play roulette
00:57 <ivantis> #r
00:57 <armabot> ivantis: *click*
00:57 <luke-jr> uhoh
00:57 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: armabot bug
00:57 <lm8o> what is the armagetron map making program called?
00:57 <lm8o> i forgot.
00:57 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it doesn't ignore ivantis
00:57 <ivantis> ACME
00:57 <ivantis> dude
00:57 <luke-jr> lm8o: Kwrite
00:57 <ivantis> no, please dont make him ignore me
00:58 <rogue> hey luke, where is zman?  he never comes here?
00:58  * luke-jr glances over at z-man/zmanuel
00:58 <luke-jr> no, he never comes here I guess
00:58 <ivantis> are you blind? z-man/zmanuel
00:58  * rogue slaps luke
00:58 <lm8o> ?
00:58 <rogue> i mean, talks to you guys
00:58 <ivantis> yeah he does
00:58 <rogue> i've never seen him on here talking
00:58 <ivantis> in fact, ive gotten programming help from him
00:59 <rogue> aww another joke for luke-jr
00:59 <rogue> lol
00:59  * ivantis thinks z-man is much nice than luke
00:59 <ivantis> -jr
00:59 <rogue> you are pooning yourself ivantis
00:59 <luke-jr> hmm
00:59 <luke-jr> DCC SEND 0123456789012345678
00:59 <luke-jr> aww, nobody here bugs
00:59 <ivantis> luke-jr: quit being retarded
00:59 <ct|kyle> :)
00:59 <ct|kyle> luke-jr:
01:00 <rogue> http://crashie.com
01:00 <rogue> nice site
01:00 <rogue> LOL!
01:00 <rogue> I'm going to put that script in my site.  And make it say... "YOU GOT POONED, IE USER!"
01:01 <ivantis> IE sucks!
01:01  * rogue agrees
01:01 <luke-jr> Firefox sucks!
01:01 <rogue> FIREFOX FTW!
01:01 <luke-jr> Google Chrome sucks!
01:01 <ivantis> even my cousin who enjoys Windows C++ programming (bleah!), hates IE
01:01 <rogue> thats what i was just about to ask you
01:01 <luke-jr> Konqueror FTW!
01:01 <rogue> ew...
01:01 <ivantis> konqueror
01:01 <lm8o> ::slap
01:01 <ivantis> bleah
01:01 <luke-jr> Arora FTW!
01:02 <rogue> webkit FTW!
01:02 <lm8o> =[]
01:02 <ivantis> as well as konversation, bleah
01:02 <luke-jr> /kick ivantis
01:02 <ivantis> /pwnkillandkick luke-jr
01:02 <lm8o>  /own lm8o
01:02  * ivantis votes +stfu luke-jr
01:02 <rogue> http://webkit.org/
01:03 <lm8o>  /vote lol
01:03 <rogue> is the bomb, like tick tick
01:03 <lm8o> ;s
01:03 <lm8o> :S
01:03 <luke-jr> rogue: KHTML FTW
01:03 <lm8o> lm8o: lol
01:03 <rogue> YEAH!
01:03 <rogue> I AGREE
01:03 <ivantis> rogue: you run OS X?
01:03 <rogue> NOT
01:03 <rogue> no
01:03 <luke-jr> http://ggkthx.org/Torrents/[gg]_Code_Geass_R2_-_01-12_Batch.torrent
01:04 <rogue> hahaha kthx!
01:04 <ivantis> Ha! My IE didn't crash.. What do you say to that?!
01:04 <ivantis> No matter how you look at it, IE is still a horrible browser.
01:04 <ivantis> how right that site is
01:04 <rogue> Yeah right, doubt it
01:04 <rogue> I tried my IE7 on there and it crashed
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01:05 <lm8o> lol oops
01:05 <rogue> get out!
01:05 <rogue> the l8mo's are coming!
01:05 <lm8o> eheheh
01:05 <ivantis> he just left and came back, foo'
01:05 <rogue> lm8o who are you?  you play tron?
01:05 <rogue> LOL!
01:06 <rogue> what a question
01:06 <rogue> i just pooned myself
01:06 <rogue> what game types do you play lm8o?
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
01:06 <rogue> T hee
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
01:06 <rogue> wb!
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
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01:06 <rogue> wb!
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01:07 <rogue> wb!
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01:07 <rogue> wb!
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01:07 <rogue> wb!
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01:07 <rogue> STFU!
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01:07 <lm8o> =o
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01:07 <lm8o> am i doing that?
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01:07  * rogue SLAPPED lm8o
01:07 <luke-jr> stfu lm8o
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01:07 <rogue> lol
01:07 <lm8o> im not doing it
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01:07 <lm8o> wtf.
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01:07 <rogue> wtf is going on hahahahaha
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01:07 <rogue> LUKE IS HACKING YOU!
01:07 <ct|kyle> @man screen
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01:07 <lm8o> my name doesnt have a 0
01:07 <teabot> ct|kyle: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=screen&exact=1
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01:07 <rogue> @man screen
01:07 <teabot> rogue: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=screen&exact=1
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01:08 <lm8o> wth?
01:08 <lm80> ]r
01:08 <ljrbot> lm80: Error: "r" is not a valid command.
01:08 <lm80> hi self
01:08 <lm80> hehe
01:08 <lm80> I am talking to myself
01:08 <StickyNoob> luk wtf are you doing
01:08 <lm8o> -.-
01:08 <rogue> LOL!
01:08 <rogue> luke pooned you1
01:08 <lm80> -.-
01:08 <rogue> roflwaffle
01:08 <lm8o> afssaf
01:08 <lm80> afssaf
01:08 <lm8o> ajfsjaskfjsklafksjlakjlafskjlsajklafs
01:08 <rogue> hahaha
01:08 <lm80> ajfsjaskfjsklafksjlakjlafskjlsajklafs
01:08 <lm8o> -.-
01:08 <lm80> -.-
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01:09 <rogue> haha luke is owning you
01:09 <lm8o> -.-
01:09 <lm80> -.-
01:09 <lm80> -.-
01:09 <lm80> -.-
01:09 <lm80> -.-
01:09 <lm8o> sthu
01:09 <lm8o> d
01:09 <lm80> sthu
01:09 <rogue> haha
01:09 <lm80> sthu
01:09 <lm80> sthu
01:09 <lm80> d
01:09 <lm80> d
01:09 <rogue> rofl
01:09 <rogue> waffle
01:09 <lm80> d
01:10 <lm8o>  0-0
01:10 <lm80> 0-0
01:10 <lm80> 0-0
01:10 <lm80> 0-0
01:10  * rogue wants to shoot lm8o
01:10 <lm8o> im not going 2 say anything anymore
01:10 <lm80> im not going 2 say anything anymore
01:10 <lm80> im not going 2 say anything anymore
01:10 <lm80> im not going 2 say anything anymore
01:10 <rogue> LOL!
01:10 <lm80> sorry, I lied
01:10 <lm80> sorry, I lied
01:10 <lm80> sorry, I lied
01:10 <lm80> sorry, I lied
01:10 <rogue> ROFL
01:10 <rogue> HAHAHAHa
01:10 <lm8o> im out.
01:10 <rogue> BYE!
01:10 <lm80> im out.
01:10 <lm80> im out.
01:10 <lm80> im out.
01:10 <rogue> BYE!
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01:10 <rogue> HAHA
01:10 <lm8o> heh
01:11 <StickyNoob> dont lol at him you are only encouraging him
01:11 <lm8o> im not doing it -.-
01:11 <luke-jr> suuure
01:11 <lm8o> ivantis
01:11 <rogue> its luke, he's pooning
01:11 <rogue> xD
01:11 <rogue> lolz
01:11 <lm8o> where can i download kwrite?
01:11 <luke-jr> rogue: ARE YOU TRYING TO GET ME KILLED?
01:12 <rogue> LUKE IS IN ANONYMOUS
01:12 <luke-jr> lm8o: your OS provider
01:12 <lm8o> o
01:12 <luke-jr> if you use Debian or Ubuntu, type: aptitude install kwrite
01:12 <luke-jr> if some RPM junk, type: yum install kwrite
01:13 <luke-jr> if Gentoo: emerge kwrite
01:13 <luke-jr> if anything else, get a clue or a real OS
01:13 <rogue> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ
01:13 <rogue> thats luke!
01:13 <luke-jr> liar
01:13 <rogue> i know who anonymous is!
01:13 <StickyNoob> rogue: what os/distro?
01:14 <rogue> StickyNoob Why the hell are you asking me?
01:15 <StickyNoob> oh got mixed t
01:15 <rogue> lol
01:15 <StickyNoob> *up
01:16  * rogue needs to eat dinner
01:16 <rogue> kthx
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01:17 <ivantis> lm8o: what?
01:17 <ivantis> luke-jr: lm8o isnt a complete moron
01:17 <luke-jr> ivantis: you're not in a position to judge that
01:18 <ivantis> he might guess by the n=luke-jr@YOURDNSKTHNXBYE
01:18 <ivantis> luke-jr: you're not in a position to judge if im in a position to judge that
01:18 <luke-jr> ivantis: shows what you know
01:18 <ivantis> luke-jr: which includes that you are stupid
01:19 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: so what powerful drugs have you been taking tonight?
01:19 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: ran out
01:19 <StickyNoob> had to settle for horse crank
01:21 <luke-jr> http://tinyurl.com/55x6vz
01:21  * StickyNoob is warey of tinurls
01:21 <StickyNoob> ivantis: click that link and see if its safe
01:21 <ivantis> its safe
01:21 <ivantis> beta.armagetronad.net
01:21 <luke-jr> hm, would be nice to be able to change tinyurls ☺
01:22 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8552 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: typo
01:22 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:23 <StickyNoob> who is Christine Spang
01:23 <luke-jr> Debian person I guess
01:23 <ivantis> Andreas Bombe?
01:24 <ivantis> maybe theyre people from the Debian packages thing
01:25 <lm8o> ivantis
01:25 <lm8o> all there is
01:25 <ivantis> lm8o: what?
01:26 <lm8o> is fortress zone win zone death zone
01:26 <ivantis> no
01:26 <lm8o> all there is the options
01:26 <ivantis> you need a special dtd
01:26 <lm8o> im on armabell
01:26 <ivantis> and a special server
01:26 <ivantis> what?
01:26 <ivantis> thats pretty gay
01:26 <ivantis> make them all... fortress
01:26 <StickyNoob> it appears the package used by hardy is packaged by christine
01:26 <ivantis> ill just change them
01:26 <lm8o> ok
01:27 <ivantis> why doesnt windows just give up?
01:27 <StickyNoob> because they are winning?
01:27 <ivantis> their OSes that get worse at every release will never be able to beat Linux
01:27 <ivantis> they are winning
01:28 <ivantis> but as Linus Torvalds said, "Software is like sex, it's better when its free."
01:28 <StickyNoob> yeah those loosers with their 95% market share should just give up now
01:28 <luke-jr> Linux isn't an OS
01:29 <ivantis> ...well, all linux distros
01:29 <ivantis> are better than windows
01:29 <ivantis> yes, luke, even gentoo
01:29 <ivantis> LFS maybe
01:30 <StickyNoob> horses for courses tho, windows has its place
01:34 <lm8o> ivantis
01:34 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8553 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (releases.php releases_filter.php): attempt HexaTRON import
01:34 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:34 <lm8o> im done with the map
01:34 <ivantis> okay
01:34 <ivantis> email it to me
01:34 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis.net
01:34 <lm8o> ok
01:36 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8554 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (releases.php releases_filter.php): attempt HexaTRON import
01:36 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:36 <ivantis> send it
01:37 <ivantis> lm8o: did you send it? i havent gotten it
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01:38 <ivantis> wb fonkay
01:38 <lm8o> ivantis: just did
01:38 <ivantis> ah, got it
01:39 <lm8o> k
01:40 <lm8o> like it? :o
01:40 <lm8o> lol
01:41 <ivantis> btw lm8o
01:41 <ivantis> where should the teleport zones spawn to?
01:41 <lm8o> ?
01:41 <ivantis> tell me the directions and the coords for each one
01:41 <lm8o> =o
01:41 <lm8o> uhm
01:42 <lm8o> cant really tell the coords.
01:42 <ivantis> (the syntax is like <ShapeCircle xpos="" ypos="" xdir="" ydir="">
01:42 <ivantis> ok
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01:42 <RoGuE> lm8o!!!!!!
01:42 <RoGuE> Long time no see!
01:42 <lm8o> can u make them respawn in random places?
01:42 <lm8o> yeah
01:42 <lm8o> lol
01:42 <ivantis> plot the points on the map as spawn points
01:42 <ivantis> and ill get them from there
01:42 <ivantis> resend it after ur done
01:43 <lm8o> ok
01:43 <RoGuE> ivantis my friend!  where have you been?  it's been years!
01:43 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8555 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/ (releases.php releases_filter.php): 20050324
01:43 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:43 <ivantis> years divided by a billion
01:43 <RoGuE> aww man.  thats like.... ...... ..... -9989489894859849898290839048029834 minutes
01:44 <RoGuE> i should stop drinking.  Brain cells are fighting eachother now
01:44 <RoGuE> Like a little war going on
01:45 <RoGuE> where did that noob luke-jr go?
01:45 <ivantis> he is still here
01:45 <RoGuE> :O
01:45 <ivantis> what IRC client are you using? does it not have a userlist in it?
01:45 <RoGuE> http://java.freenode.net/index.php?nick=Program&channel=armagetron
01:45 <RoGuE> I'm usin that sucka, i don't care for an irc client
01:45 <RoGuE> msn ftw!
01:46 <ivantis> msn sucks
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01:46 <Program> oh yeah, i used to use this
01:47 <Program> at http://crazy-tronners.com/chat.php
01:47 <Program> thats a cooler one
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01:47 <RoGuE> LOL!
01:47 <ivantis> that client sucks
01:47 <RoGuE> man ct sucks for having everything
01:47 <RoGuE> they are like wow pooners
01:47 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8556 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: 20050325
01:47 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:48 <RoGuE> what is ct?  low rubber?
01:48 <RoGuE> stop executing crap armabot!
01:48 <RoGuE> armabot you suck!
01:48 <ivantis> lm8o: done done done yet?
01:48 <lm8o> ivantis: almost
01:48 <RoGuE> lm8o: lm8o
01:48 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8557 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: 20050325
01:48 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:48 <RoGuE> -----------------------.--------------------------------------
01:49 <ivantis> k
01:49 <lm8o> ivantis: done
01:49 <ivantis> k
01:49 <ivantis> email it
01:49 <lm8o> already did ^^
01:49 <RoGuE> damn, he's on the ball!
01:49 <RoGuE> get it son!
01:50 <ivantis> okay
01:50 <ivantis> so,
01:50 <RoGuE> Later dudes, pz out :)
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01:50 <ivantis> the spawnpoints that arent already on the other map are respawn points?
01:50 <lm8o> ys
01:50 <ivantis> k
01:51 <ivantis> …
01:51 <lm8o> ?
01:51 <ivantis> you only gave me 4 spawn points, theres five zones
01:51 <lm8o> oh. crap
01:51 <lm8o> lol
01:51 <lm8o> didnt pay attention
01:51 <lm8o> ill do it over.
01:51 <ivantis> ill just do another random one
01:52 <lm8o> ok.
01:53 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8558 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: 20050402
01:53 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
01:53 <lm8o> armabot
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01:54 <ivantis> stfu armabot
01:54 <ivantis> #stfu
01:54 <lm8o> why am i green and other people are blue? ;s
01:54 <armabot> ...
01:54 <ivantis> idk
01:54 <lm8o> luke make me blue =o
01:54 <lm8o> #stfu
01:54 <armabot> ...
01:54 <lm8o> lol
01:57 <ivantis> lm8o
01:57 <lm8o> yes
01:57 <ivantis> did you put the points outside the grid walls?
01:57 <lm8o> ? what
01:58 <ivantis> they dont appear to work
01:58 <ivantis> come to my server
01:58 <lm8o> ok
02:00 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8559 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: 20050418
02:00 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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02:00 <lm8o> ::
02:00 <lm8o> :s
02:01 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=all&branch=Hex&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=&arch=&bitness=&format=#download
02:01 <luke-jr> :þ
02:03 <lm8o> not responding
02:03 <lm8o> that sucked
02:03 <ivantis> thats odd
02:03 <ivantis> it works for me
02:04 <lm8o> hmm what version of tron r u on
02:04 <ivantis> 0.2.8
02:04 <ivantis> try reconnecting
02:05 <lm8o> wtf
02:05 <ivantis> still wont work eh?
02:05 <ivantis> maybe its this map
02:05 <lm8o> i cant talk or move
02:07 <lm8o> oh
02:07 <lm8o> it was my tron
02:07 <lm8o> lol
02:07 <lm8o> it said something bout a heap error
02:07 <lm8o> lol
02:08 <lm8o> hm
02:09 <lm8o> u should make the teleport zones smaller
02:09 <lm8o> on my map
02:09 <ivantis> hold on...
02:09 <lm8o> ok
02:11 <lm8o> hm
02:11 <lm8o> brb, hungry.
02:12 <lm8o> -.- nothing in the pantry
02:20 <lm8o> ?
02:20 <ivantis> i think it crashed maybe
02:20 <lm8o> i musta pressed respawn to much
02:20 <ivantis> yeah
02:20 <ivantis> seg fault
02:21 <ivantis> nice going lm8o
02:21 <lm8o> -.- sorry
02:24 <lm8o> where is everybody?
02:27 <lm8o> ??
02:27 <lm8o> weird
02:27 <lm8o> wont lemme connect >:(
02:27 <ivantis> uh
02:27 <ivantis> hmm
02:27 <ivantis> odd
02:28 <lm8o> but does it work anyway
02:31 <lm8o> does it work?
02:31 <ivantis> no
02:31 <ivantis> i dont see em
02:32 <ivantis> okay
02:32 <ivantis> see ya
02:32 <lm8o> cya
02:32 <ivantis> buh-bye
02:37 <lm8o> alright im back
02:37 <lm8o> im gonna go to ctfs
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04:16 <Durka_tr> luke-jr: ping
04:18 <ct|kyle> Durka_tr: o0
04:18 <ct|kyle> the google supybot has entered
04:19 <Durka_tr> 0.-
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05:08 <Durka> where o where is mr. luke-jr ?
05:08 <luke-jr> f u
05:08 <Durka> aha!
05:08 <Durka> hey luke
05:08 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: U F U
05:08 <luke-jr> u got im
05:08 <Durka> I don't have an account to upload to beta.armagetronad.net :\
05:08 <luke-jr> why not
05:08 <Durka> um idk
05:09 <Durka> i'll go on gtalk ^
05:09 <luke-jr> u lie
05:09 <luke-jr> ur not Durka
05:09 <luke-jr> Durka has an account
05:09 <Durka> well
05:09 <Durka> i have an account for uploading maps
05:09 <Durka> heh
05:09 <luke-jr> o
05:09 <luke-jr> that kind of account
05:09 <ct|kyle> google  talk to luke-jr does not work
05:09 <Durka> thats cuz he's not on
05:09 <luke-jr> Durka: try Gtalk
05:09 <luke-jr> am so
05:09 <ct|kyle> Durka: yes he is
05:09 <Durka> noms
05:10 <Durka> IM me
05:10 <Durka> durkadurkamj@gmail.com
05:10 <Durka> yea ur on
05:10  * ct|kyle signs Durka up for spam mail :P
05:10 <Durka> but i cant im u
05:11 <Durka> Message delivery to luke@dashjr.org failed:  (Code 503)
05:11 <luke-jr>  code 503
05:11 <luke-jr> how useful
05:11 <luke-jr> -.-
05:11 <ct|kyle> same code i get
05:11 <luke-jr> how about LJTalk?
05:12 <Durka> idk what that is
05:12 <luke-jr> LiveJournal Talk
05:12 <luke-jr> or Jabber
05:12 <luke-jr> or Gizmo
05:12 <Durka> msn aim
05:12 <luke-jr> fail
05:12 <ct|kyle> MSN sucks
05:12 <Durka> ...
05:12 <Durka> luke just talk on the irc /msg thing
05:13 <luke-jr> BUT HOW DO I KNOW ITS U
05:13 <ct|kyle> Durka: PM him
05:13 <Durka> cuz u can look at my ip
05:13 <Durka> Durka (Durka)
05:14 <Durka> Durka@cpe-76-173-122-30.socal.res.rr.com
05:14 <luke-jr> and?
05:14 <luke-jr> that tells me
05:14 <Durka> that me
05:14 <luke-jr> about
05:14 <luke-jr> nothing
05:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it is the real Durka
05:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: PROVE IT
05:15 <Durka> i can PM u my password to my map upload accnt
05:15 <luke-jr> NO
05:15 <ct|kyle> he is on google talk too
05:15 <luke-jr> FreeNode admins are watching -.-
05:15 <luke-jr> it's a conspiracy by FreeNode admins!
05:15 <Durka> this is so stupid
05:15 <Durka> luke
05:15 <luke-jr> lol
05:15 <Durka> i'll just PM on arma forums
05:15 <Durka> what info do u want
05:15 <luke-jr> SSH public key
05:15 <Durka> i just want an account
05:15 <Durka> ssh public key for what
05:16 <luke-jr> yours
05:16 <Durka> no
05:16 <luke-jr> …
05:17 <Durka> ok luke
05:17 <Durka> wtf do u want me to do
05:17 <Durka> suck ur dick?
05:17 <Durka> c'mon its me
05:17 <luke-jr> send me your SSH public key
05:17 <Durka> why would i do that
05:17 <luke-jr> …
05:18 <luke-jr> so I can give u access to the account I make for you
05:18 <Durka> ...
05:18 <luke-jr> how are you going to use it?
05:18 <Durka> u can just PM me
05:18 <Durka> ...
05:18 <Durka> o
05:18 <Durka> sftp? :D
05:19 <luke-jr> exactly
05:19 <Durka> k to prove its me
05:19 <Durka> http://durkas.info/lukejr/sucks/ftw/
05:19 <luke-jr> and to connect to sftp, you need credentials
05:19 <Durka> i just made that special directory for u
05:19 <luke-jr> like a SSH key
05:19 <luke-jr> Durka: don't tell me you still use passwords for SSH?
05:20 <Durka> i dont use SSH
05:20 <luke-jr> …
05:20 <luke-jr> sftp then
05:21 <Durka> k
05:21 <luke-jr> …
05:21 <Durka> what info do u need
05:21 <luke-jr> first info I need is ssh public key -.-
05:21 <luke-jr> that u will be using to login
05:21 <Durka> :\
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08:36 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: wrtlprnft bug in fact: it doesn't ignore luke-jr 
08:37 <luke-jr> no reason for it to ignore me
08:37 <luke-jr> ivantis is the one who likes to bot-flood
08:37 <luke-jr> that's why he's ignored on the 3 or 4 other bots here
08:55 <wrtlprnft> i didn't see him trying to flood armabot 
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14:19 <ivantis> see? told you
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14:20 <ivantis> armabot is better than all the other bots
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14:35 <epsy> we don't have the same definition of "better"
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15:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8560 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): epsy46: give admins a message when a name-locked buddy "tries" to rename
15:55 <ct|kyle> epsy: that could be annoying
15:56 <epsy> P4, ping
15:56 <epsy> ct|kyle, well, /admin kick/ban aren't being removed
15:57 <ct|kyle> epsy: but useless if they have a dynamic IP
16:09 <P4> epsy pong
16:09 <P4> can't we ban ip/mask?
16:09 <epsy> P4, that's what you wanted me to do :P [or at least what you agreed with]
16:09 <P4> oh great
16:10 <P4> now how to enable admin's talkin (/admin commands visible to all admins)
16:10 <epsy> ?
16:10 <epsy> chat-to-admins ?
16:10 <P4> no
16:10 <epsy> like "help me this guy is pointing a gun at me!!"
16:11 <P4> if admin says /admin cycle_rubber 10 rest of logged admin should get the message that admin[name] has just used cycle_rubber 10
16:11 <epsy> .cfg2 console
16:11 <tronner> epsy: CONSOLE_DECORATE_ID: Decorates every line of console output with the client ID || CONSOLE_DECORATE_IP: Decorates every line of console output with the client IP || CONSOLE_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of console output with the current date and time || CONSOLE_LADDER_LOG: Sends ladder log output to the console || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || (1 more message)
16:11 <epsy> .more
16:11 <tronner> epsy: CONSOLE_ROWS: Number of lines of console output without user intervention || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of lines kept in the console history. || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round
16:12 <P4> ?
16:12 <epsy> .cfg2 spy
16:12 <tronner> epsy: ACCESS_LEVEL_SPY_MSG: Minimal access level you need for seeing /msg messages directed to others. || ACCESS_LEVEL_SPY_TEAM: Minimal access level you need for seeing /team messages as a spectator.
16:12 <epsy> blah
16:12 <P4> not spy… the /admin input shou;d be sent to all admins and the RA
16:12 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r882 give admins a message when a name-locked buddy "tries" to re...
16:12 <epsy> $ ./armagetronad-dedicated --doc | grep -i spy
16:12 <epsy> ACCESS_LEVEL_SPY_CONSOLE     access_level_spy_console_help
16:13 <epsy> wow, LP's feeds are slower than bazaarmagetron :P
16:13 <epsy> (that was total non-sense actually)
16:13 <P4> the sense was hidden :þ
16:13 <epsy> maybe i should "translate" access_level_spy_console_help
16:15 <epsy> along with the other ones
16:15 <epsy> bah
16:15 <epsy> i'm already drawing lines of changes on there
16:21  * P4 is now playing: The Speed Freak - Days of Anger (5:24)
16:21 <P4> laud enaugh :)
16:22 <ct|kyle> P4: i think i can hear it i here
16:22 <P4> heh :)
16:34 <epsy> P4, should be fixt
16:34 <P4> "I'm a homeboy and I like to make noise, bouncing to the beat is my main choice, I'm a home boy it might make you mad and if the musics to loud thats too damm bad!" ;>
16:39 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8561 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt): epsy46: fixed some of the missing command help texts
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17:14 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r883 fixed some of the missing command help texts...
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20:58 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: any chance of the source behind http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/svgtest.php ? I might have a messa round with it
21:07 <ivantis> eddiefantastic: that svgtest doesnt work for me
21:07 <ivantis> it just shows a yellow explosion the whole time
21:07 <ivantis> even if im on there playing
21:10 <eddiefantastic> it's not running right now
21:11 <ivantis> isnt it for flower power sumo assault?
21:11 <eddiefantastic> and the reason you only see a yellow explosion is because I turned backgrounds off
21:11 <eddiefantastic> http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/
21:11 <eddiefantastic> that one shows it
21:11 <ivantis> oh
21:11 <ivantis> wait, is that one live?
21:18 <ivantis> why does that one not work either?
21:26 <eddiefantastic> the server is not set up to output svg
21:26 <eddiefantastic> and I removed the inner workings of all the other bits
21:33 <ivantis> oh
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21:55 <ct|kyle> oi Lucifer_pen
22:06 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: there's next to no PHP in it
22:06 <wrtlprnft> it's basically a send-as-xhtml-if-not-ie kind of script
22:07 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/svgtest.php.txt
22:09 <wrtlprnft> and fsproxy.php just mirrors the contents of http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/map.svg
22:09 <ivantis> my map hack is awesome
22:09 <ivantis> im making a 5-rooms map for my server
22:09 <ct|kyle> ivantis: my idea
22:10 <wrtlprnft> and fsproxy2.php used to turn your chat log into some kind of pseudo-xml for js to parse
22:10 <wrtlprnft> map hack?
22:10 <ivantis> kind of your idea
22:10 <ivantis> yes map hack
22:10 <ct|kyle> teleporting
22:10 <ivantis> it changes what the parser gets
22:10 <ivantis> and uses RESPAWN_PLAYER
22:11 <ct|kyle> ivantis: how does RESPAWN_PLAYER work
22:11 <ivantis> idk
22:11 <wrtlprnft> grml, eddiefantastic just turned /away
22:11 <ivantis> i didnt make it
22:12 <ivantis> how do you comment stuff in xml?
22:12 <epsy> <!-- comment -->
22:12 <ivantis> ct|kyle: i didnt make RESPAWN_PLAYER, i made the hack for it
22:12 <epsy> (NOTE THE SPACES)
22:12 <ivantis> uh
22:12 <ivantis> can i do multi line comments?
22:12 <epsy> it's not ---> it's -->
22:12 <ivantis> can i do multi line comments?
22:12 <wrtlprnft> sure
22:12 <ivantis> like <!-- one line
22:13 <ivantis> another line -->
22:13 <ivantis> ?
22:13 <wrtlprnft> just make sure you don't have -- inside them unless you know what you're doing
22:13 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:13 <ivantis> k
22:13 <epsy> why would it have an ending when it wasn't able to spread over lines
22:13 <epsy> hey man, this ain't python
22:13 <ivantis> how does respawn_player work?
22:14 <ivantis> it doesnt do the coords the same as the maps do
22:14 <ivantis> idk
22:14 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: those are the coords after size_factor is applied
22:14 <epsy> maybe coord of the map × size_factor
22:14 <epsy> :)
22:14 <Lucifer_pen> ivantis is a 21st century digital boy
22:14 <ivantis> oh
22:15 <ivantis> Lucifer: you joking?
22:15 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that's bound to fail, size_factor is exponential
22:15 <wrtlprnft> maybe you mean real_arena_size_factor?
22:15 <luke-jr> sigh
22:15 <epsy> yeah, more like that one indeed
22:15 <luke-jr> appa's a bit nutty ☹
22:15 <epsy> ivantis, maybe you should have your command do the math for you ;)
22:15  * wrtlprnft can't wait for darvinia/linux
22:16 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ⁇
22:16 <epsy> @gnu wrtlprnft can't wait for darvinia/linux
22:16 <teabot> epsy: GNU/wrtlprnft GNU/can't GNU/wait GNU/for GNU/darvinia/linux
22:16 <wrtlprnft> epsy: map coord×√2
22:16 <wrtlprnft> epsy: map coord×(√2)^size_factor
22:16 <ivantis> but would it work if it was size_factor 1?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i was thinking about it
22:16 <ivantis> er
22:16 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: 0
22:16 <ivantis> but would it work if it was size_factor 0?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: !!
22:16 <ivantis> okay
22:17 <wrtlprnft> and sp_size_factor
22:17 <wrtlprnft> http://www.introversion.co.uk/multiwinia/about/screenshots/16.html
22:17 <Lucifer_pen> ivantis: no, I'm not joking
22:17 <ivantis> k
22:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wtf is Darvinia?
22:18 <ivantis> wrtl: uh
22:18 <wrtlprnft> darwinia if you want
22:18 <luke-jr> …
22:18 <luke-jr> yay for no answer
22:18 <ivantis> size_factor 0 makes it all weird and definetly not like the map
22:19 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: then use another size factor, but multiply your coordinates accordingly
22:19 <epsy> fat spiders and some mercenaries, that's just like tremulous, see they are about the same <http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=8394.msg129832#msg129832>
22:19 <wrtlprnft> or scale the map itself, http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/maptransform.py/maptransform
22:20 <ivantis> k
22:20 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you weren't here when i was working on eEvents, were you?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: a game from the same crowd that produced defcon, the game that z-man spent some time on (and i don't wanna know where arma would be today if it had gone there instead)
22:20 <wrtlprnft> no
22:21 <luke-jr> o
22:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft, do you have some experience with linkers?
22:21 <wrtlprnft> appart from gcc a.o b.o -o c?
22:21 <wrtlprnft> no?
22:22 <epsy> ld just drops it(the eEvent stuff) when building the final binary X_x
22:23 <wrtlprnft> err, make sure something from eEvent.cpp is used in another source file
22:23 <wrtlprnft> i had that problem with cCockpit
22:23 <epsy> yeah :\
22:23 <wrtlprnft> of edit Makefile.am and add it to some secret list of core files there
22:23 <epsy> lol
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22:24 <epsy> after that i restarted work on AAGID webform, i've came up with something alsmost finished until i switched to arch
22:25 <wrtlprnft> aagid?
22:25 <epsy> my mysql install is still not complete and phpmyadmin and such stuff aren't my friends it seems
22:25 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ArmagetronAd Global ID ?
22:25 <wrtlprnft> epsy: armagetronad_main_SOURCES is that secret list btw
22:25 <wrtlprnft> no, the webforum part
22:26 <ivantis> wait
22:26 <ivantis> wrtlprnft
22:26 <wrtlprnft> ivantis
22:26 <wrtlprnft> wait
22:26 <ivantis> what was the formula you had for the thing a while ago
22:26 <ivantis> ?
22:26 <ivantis> for like the map size thing?
22:26 <epsy> well, i'll go for the cleaner way and make a testcase that will be actually useful
22:26 <wrtlprnft> sqrt(2)^size_factor
22:26 <ivantis> size_factor
22:26 <wrtlprnft> that's the actual scale factor that's applied to the map
22:26 <ivantis> oh
22:27 <wrtlprnft> or 2^(size_factor/2), that makes the point of the formula clearer
22:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft, webform, or how to auth both the client and the website using plain http clients
22:27 <epsy> :)
22:27 <wrtlprnft> ah
22:27 <epsy> summed up, web-auth
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22:27 <ivantis> i get ~0.70710678118654752440 with size_factor -1
22:27 <wrtlprnft> anyways, what is this event stuff?
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22:27 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: thanks for that, I'll have a play when I have time
22:28 <wrtlprnft> yw
22:28 <wrtlprnft> it's not much really, just reloading part of the file without flicker
22:28 <epsy> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/events
22:29 <epsy> (yes, the wiki page sucks, terribly)
22:29 <epsy> it's merly the header file plus an intro, guess i should rework that
22:32 <luke-jr> someone want to spank appa for me? :/
22:33 <ct|kyle> .spank appa
22:33 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i guess tronner does not want to sorry luke-jr
22:33 <luke-jr> he's not on IRC anyhow
22:34 <luke-jr> he's going wah wah because he wants a refund
22:34 <luke-jr> but he won't tell me why
22:34 <luke-jr> wtf would I refund without at least a reason?
22:35 <luke-jr> </rant>
22:36 <epsy> you..wouldn'r?
22:36 <epsy> gah
22:37 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
22:37 <epsy> there is indeed no reason to refund lol
22:37 <epsy> ..if there is no reason.. :P
22:37 <luke-jr> well, who knows
22:38 <luke-jr> he won't give me a reason
22:38 <wrtlprnft> in germany you can cancel any remotely “signed” contract within 14 days, no reason needed at all
22:38 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it's been about 2 months
22:38 <wrtlprnft> well, ok
22:39 <luke-jr> I already did a prorated refund for the partial month too.
22:39 <luke-jr> sigh
22:40  * Lucifer_pen is almost ready to settle into a place for a few months
22:41  * Lucifer_pen just has to wait for a few minor things to work themselves out
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22:55 <ivantis> hey
22:55 <ivantis> you guys wanna see my cool map?
23:01 <eddiefantastic> http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/svg.php <-- it's better when it's busy ;)
23:01 <eddiefantastic> bye
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23:10 <ivantis> suh-weet!
23:10 <ivantis> thats awesome
23:10 <ivantis> how do i enable it on my server?
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23:52 <eddiefantastic> ivantis: svg_output_timing n (where n is number of seconds bewtween each svg being created)
23:52 <ivantis> oh
23:52 <eddiefantastic> look now, it's busy ;)
23:52 <ivantis> how do i put it on a page like that one?
23:52 <eddiefantastic> look at wrtl's code he posted up there ^^^
23:53 <eddiefantastic> or copy the source from mine
23:53 <eddiefantastic> or take them both and make your own ;)
23:54 <ivantis> what file are they output to?
23:54 <eddiefantastic> you arma var dir iirc
23:54 <eddiefantastic> map.svg
23:55 <ivantis> doesnt show zones?
23:55 <eddiefantastic> ah, what browser do you use?
23:55 <ivantis> idk
23:55 <eddiefantastic> spinning zones in opera
23:55 <ivantis> i just opened it
23:56 <ivantis> im using firefox
23:56 <ivantis> it shows zones there
23:56 <ivantis> but on mine it doesnt
23:56 <ivantis> maybe its kuz theyre teleport zones
23:56 <eddiefantastic> probably
23:56 <ivantis> nvm
23:57 <ivantis> now it shows them
23:57 <eddiefantastic> firefox is nice. but missing some features of opera
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23:57 <ivantis> for some reason, there are like specs of walls floating around
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23:58 <ivantis> theyre the same color as the players
23:58 <eddiefantastic> yeah, that's a firefox rendering thing. I think opera handles svg's better
23:58 <eddiefantastic> they are not there
23:58 <eddiefantastic> anyway, gnight now
23:58 <ivantis> gnight

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01:08 <fonkay> can you timestamp this thing?
01:15 <Lucifer_pen> you want me to timestamp you?
01:15 <ct|kyle> 19:14:22
01:16 <ivantis> #logs
01:17 <ivantis> 01:08 <fonkay> can you timestamp this thing?
01:17 <ivantis> 01:15 <Lucifer_pen> you want me to timestamp you?
01:17 <ivantis> 01:15 <ct|kyle> 19:14:22
01:17 <ivantis> 01:16 <ivantis> #logs
01:17 <ivantis> in whatever time zone wrtls server is in
01:17 <ivantis> its 18:17 here
01:18 <ivantis> almost time for me to go to boy scout meeting
01:18 <ct|kyle> ivantis: don't mess up the pine wood derby
01:18 <ivantis> thats in cub scouts
01:18 <ivantis> foo'
01:19 <ct|kyle> same diff
01:19 <ivantis> you mean big diff?
01:19 <ct|kyle> not really
01:19 <ivantis> not a huge difference
01:19 <ivantis> except cub scouts are short
01:19 <ct|kyle> ivantis: were you in cub scouts
01:20 <ivantis> no
01:20 <ct|kyle> LOL
01:20 <ct|kyle> i was in it 3 years i think
01:20 <ivantis> we got a whole bunch of graduating cub scouts a while ago
01:20 <ivantis> i need to start going to meetings more often
01:21 <ivantis> everyone in my troop outranks me
01:21  * ivantis is still at rank scout. yeah.
01:21 <ivantis> i need to get my tenderfoot tonight
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01:25 <lm8o> hi
01:25 <lm8o> lol nobody here
01:26 <ivantis> im here
01:26 <lm8o> hi
01:26 <ivantis> hey
01:26 <ivantis> see me server
01:26 <lm8o> Mk
01:26 <ivantis> i made a new map for it
01:27 <fonkay> wait, was that supposed to answer my question?
01:27 <fonkay> wait, was that supposed to answer my question?
01:27 <fonkay> oops
01:28 <lm8o> laggg
01:28 <ivantis> lm8o: you coming?
01:29 <lm8o> yes
01:29 <lm8o> lagg
01:29 <ivantis> on the master server lag?
01:29 <lm8o> on comp
01:29 <ivantis> oh
01:29 <ivantis> fonkay: i dont think so
01:30 <fonkay> for the first question, or the second?
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03:14 <Roguester> Whats good
03:14 <luke-jr> not ivantis
03:15 <Roguester> oh i shee
03:15 <Roguester> luke, want to play some tron so i can OWN you
03:15 <Roguester> heeheehe
03:16 <luke-jr> you wish
03:16 <luke-jr> you're a n00b
03:16 <Roguester> where you want to play?
03:16 <luke-jr> do I know you?
03:16 <Roguester> -.-
03:16 <Roguester> IM ROGUE
03:16 <luke-jr> o
03:16 <luke-jr> so why the new name
03:16  * Roguester slaps luke
03:16 <Roguester> i just added "ster" to the end
03:16 <Roguester> loser face
03:17 <luke-jr> Rogue is blue
03:17 <luke-jr> Roguester is pink
03:17 <Roguester> I'm actually named -=VcL.Program now
03:17 <Roguester> hehe
03:17 <luke-jr> name shifter!
03:17 <Roguester> NOOB EATER!
03:21 <luke-jr> Roguester: fine, DD HR
03:22 <Roguester> ew
03:22 <Roguester> VCL CLAN SERVER
03:22 <luke-jr> DD HR first
03:22 <Roguester> u suck
03:22 <luke-jr> u
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03:24 <Lucifer_pen> well, my wife won't let me talk to her on the phone any more
03:28 <Lucifer_pen> seems she's not happy that she doesn't get a say in the place I will be living
03:28 <Roguester> Lucifer_pen hey :)
03:29 <Lucifer_pen> hi
03:30 <Roguester> Sorry to hear that about your wife mate.
03:30 <Roguester> It will all work out for the best i hope
03:30 <Roguester> Do you like where you will be living?
03:31 <Lucifer_pen> so far, yes, but I haven't even moved in
03:32 <Roguester> Is she not moving in with you?
03:32 <Roguester> I don't know much about your situation, so don't curse me out hehe
03:33 <Lucifer_pen> we're divorcing
03:33 <Roguester> Oh... then why does she care where you move?
03:33 <Roguester> How many kids do you two have together?
03:33 <Lucifer_pen> 3
03:34 <Lucifer_pen> I think she's just trying to dictate to me, and using the kids as the reason for doing that
03:34 <Lucifer_pen> that, or she's not happy that the person who's currently living in the house I want to live in is a woman
03:34 <Lucifer_pen> either way, it doesn't matter.  When she said she didn't want to work it out, she gave up any right she had to tell me where I can and can't live
03:36 <Roguester> Amen.  Don't let it get to you.  I wish you luck with your future though :) I hope the kids are old enough to understand what's going on.
03:37 <Roguester> Lucifer, are you in Twisted Rats, or is that another Lucifer?
03:39 <Roguester> Never mind.  That's not you in that clan.  I don't think you even play TRON anymore do you?
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04:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer_pen: you're not living with her?
04:10 <Lucifer_pen> nope, currently staying with my sister
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16:44 <ct|kyle> #bzr
16:44 <armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (bzr >= 1.0)
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19:57 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-camview] r688 merging from trunk r694..702
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20:19 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=EEvent
20:19 <epsy> right that's a bit better now :)
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20:27 <epsy> lut aa_voodoo :)
20:58 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-camview] r689 fixing macosx project to include camview and last changes
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21:18 <aa_voodoo> salut epsy
21:39 <epsy> sava ? :)
21:39 <epsy> aa_voodoo,
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22:08 <K-Yo> epsy: is there a way to remove the chat length limit?
22:09 <epsy> ?
22:09 <K-Yo> when you're a server, in the chat 'prompt' you can't enter more letters than the SPAM_MAXLEN says
22:12 <K-Yo> you see what I mean epsy?
22:12 <epsy> you can ignore SPAM_MAXLEN clientside, but your message will be just discarded
22:17 <K-Yo> how can I
22:17 <K-Yo> tit's for admin messages
22:17 <K-Yo> such as round_console_message
22:17 <K-Yo> If I want to change it ingame, I'm limited
22:20 <epsy> increase SPAM_MAXLEN
22:22 <K-Yo> on client side?
22:22 <epsy> no, on server side
22:24 <K-Yo> and is it possible client-side?
22:26 <epsy> it is possible to have your input not limited but anything that is larger than SPAM_MAXLEN will be discarded server-side
22:26 <K-Yo> okay
22:26 <K-Yo> ty
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23:04 <aa_voodoo> ca va epsy et toi ?
23:05 <epsy> ça va :)
23:10 <ivantis> what?
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23:27 <luke-jr> idlers
23:52 <ivantis> what does SET_TARGET_COMMAND do?
23:52 <ivantis> i ran it with no arguments and it crashed my server
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23:53 <ivantis> hey tomato
23:53 <PinkTomato> hi ivantis :)

Log from 2008-09-12:
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00:16  * luke-jr ponders a glob2-for-armagetron
00:25 <mkzelda> Playcontinuous: Cycle motor effect
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01:00 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/hoop/race/alba-1.6.aamap.xml: Resource by hoop
01:05 <ivantis> woah
01:05 <ivantis> what is http://curmudgeongamer.com/uploaded_images/tron-715850.jpg ?
01:05 <ivantis> i need that game
01:06  * ivantis hasnt bought any games for the GBA in a while...
01:06 <ivantis> #night
01:06 <armabot> Good night ivantis!
01:46 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/clever/Death_race3-0.7.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
02:00 <Ttech> 0.1
02:03 <luke-jr> ivantis: glob2 ?
02:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/clever/Death_race4-0.7.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
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02:11 <lm8o> hi
02:11 <lm8o> :[]
02:12 <lm8o> all idle? i guess
02:14 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/clever/race_2_death-0.7.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
02:15 <lm8o> #shush
02:15 <lm8o> #LOL
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02:31 <luke-jr> lm8o: glob2 ?
02:35 <lm8o> ?
02:35 <lm8o> what'd u say?
02:36 <lm8o> luke u there? ;s
02:36 <lm8o> anybody here :S
02:39 <lm8o> luke-jr: u there?
02:39 <luke-jr> …
02:39 <luke-jr> lm8o: glob2 ?
02:39 <lm8o> what is glob2?
02:39 <lm8o> luke-jr what is glob2 ? =s
02:40 <lm8o> screw it ill search it on google -.-
02:40 <luke-jr> a game
02:40 <lm8o> oh
02:40 <lm8o> is it fun? :S
02:40 <luke-jr> wanna play?
02:40 <luke-jr> SURE
02:40 <lm8o> sure lol
02:41 <luke-jr> ok lemme know when you're ready
02:41 <lm8o> ready =s
02:42 <lm8o> hmm do i download it?
02:43 <lm8o> lol why does it say i live in los angelous?
02:44 <luke-jr> of course you download it
02:44 <luke-jr> -.-
02:44 <lm8o> where?
02:44 <lm8o> :S
02:44 <luke-jr> and go do the Tutorial for a little bit too
02:44 <luke-jr> google
02:44 <lm8o> globulation 2
02:44 <lm8o> ?
02:45 <luke-jr> yes
02:46 <lm8o> mk
02:47 <lm8o> Downloading ^^
02:48 <luke-jr> lm8o: waiting…
02:48 <lm8o> luke-jr: dling =d
02:48 <lm8o> almost done
02:49 <lm8o> k
02:49 <lm8o> opening it up
02:50 <lm8o> alright
02:50 <lm8o> what do i do now
02:50 <luke-jr> LAN Game
02:50 <lm8o> join a game?
02:50 <luke-jr> yes
02:51 <lm8o> mk
02:51 <luke-jr> nat.router.dashjr.org
02:52 <luke-jr> lm8o: waiting on you now
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03:18 <ivantis> luke-jr
03:18 <ivantis> can i connect?
03:19 <lm8o> ivantis: glob2 =d
03:19 <luke-jr> nope, wait for the next game
03:19 <ivantis> i downloaded it
03:19 <ivantis> sudo apt-get install glob2
03:19 <ivantis> that one?
03:19 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i did not think you played games anymore
03:19 <luke-jr> I didn't
03:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: so did you get your kids back?
03:20 <luke-jr> ivantis: if it's version 0.9.3
03:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no
03:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that is not good
03:20 <ivantis> mine says 0.8.23
03:20 <luke-jr> ivantis: ancient
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07:12 <epsy> z-man, http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16984#c8
07:12 <teabot> Freedesktop bug 16984 in Mesa core ""Create and Call" and "Create and Execute" display lists cause crash." [Critical,New]
07:12 <epsy> have a good day
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09:12 <luke-jr> ]later tell epsy 0.2.8 was *supposed* to be stable.
09:12 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
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21:03 <K-Yo> is freako around?
21:04 <epsy> he's inside
21:33 <K-Yo> but I can't reach him now, server full :/
21:33 <K-Yo> epsy: for ladle, te fortress_complete is good?
21:34 <K-Yo> or there are some settings to change?
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22:16 <epsy> yes
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22:28 <ivantis_> thats weird
22:28 -!- ivantis_ is now known as ivantis
22:28 <ivantis> did FreeNode go down?
22:28 <ivantis> #logs
22:29 <ivantis> #alias add logs echo http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
22:29 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
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22:29 <ivantis> #logs
22:29 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
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22:41 <noob13> #seen Monkey_arma
22:41 <armabot> noob13: Monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 4 days, 21 hours, 18 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> stewwwaaaahhhhh....here is zop....http://www.ilovecucumbers.com
22:41 <noob13> O_o
22:42 <luke-jr> …
22:43 <K-Yo> ivantis: it did not
22:46 <ivantis> #seen ivantis
22:46 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis was last seen in #armagetron 17 minutes and 34 seconds ago: <ivantis> #logs
22:46 <ivantis> #seen ivantis_
22:46 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis_ was last seen in #armagetron 18 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <ivantis_> thats weird
22:47 <ivantis> #seen ivantis2
22:47 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis2 was last seen in #armagetron 9 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 3 seconds ago: <ivantis2> but this is better
22:47 <K-Yo> #seen KeY_3113
22:47 <armabot> K-Yo: KeY_3113 was last seen in #armagetron 7 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <KeY_3113> ivantis_away, hf :D
22:48 <K-Yo> #seen K-Yo_
22:48 <armabot> K-Yo: I have not seen K-Yo_.
22:48 <K-Yo> #seen K-Yo2
22:48 <ivantis> #seen ivantis_away
22:48 <armabot> K-Yo: I have not seen K-Yo2.
22:48 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis_away was last seen in #armagetron 6 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <ivantis_away> wtf? who registered ivantis_away?
22:48 <K-Yo> hahaha
22:49  * ivantis is eating popcorn, listening to weird thumping noises from the party upstairs
22:50 <ivantis> so whats the deal with politics? am i right people?
22:51 <luke-jr> ivantis: #anime
22:54 <luke-jr> ivantis: come play
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23:01 <luke-jr> [16:00:16] <crweb> the problem is control.  If we say "oh debian broke it you'll have to wait for debian to fix it"
23:01 <luke-jr> [16:00:24] <crweb> the customer is going to say. what the fuck?  who is debian?
23:10 <ivantis> you could answer the customer with "Debra and Ian of course"
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23:24 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r8562 /www/mainsite/links.php: rouge's clan, vcl
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23:45 <ivantis> theres a guy at my server with 3253 ping
23:45 <ivantis> good god
23:45 <epsy> there comes the fun
23:45 <ivantis> heres the player list:
23:45 <ivantis> Player: Alive: Score: Ping: Member of Team:
23:45 <ivantis> Th3NowoN No 0 3235
23:45 <ivantis> LaTeX Yes 0 0 AI team
23:45 <ivantis> Gcc Yes 0 0 AI team
23:45 <ivantis> Gdb Yes 0 0 AI team
23:46 <ivantis> ivantis No -4 6 ivantis
23:46 <ivantis> but he just left
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Log from 2008-09-13:
--- Day changed Sat Sep 13 2008
00:05 <ivantis> luke-jr:
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00:06 <ivantis> do you have zthread installed on Rogues server?
00:06 <ivantis> he has to wait a round to be authed
00:08 <ct|kyle> ivantis: luke-jr does not believe in zthreads
00:09 <ct|kyle> ivantis: only because he is too lazy to compile it even though Xfroggy gave him the instuctions
00:12 <ivantis> i got it compiled
00:12 <ivantis> why cant he?
00:12 <ivantis> noob
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03:22 <dawushiyan> aaaaaaaaaaa
03:23 <ivantis> shh!
03:23 <ivantis> luke-jr: was that tag test place your server?
03:23 <dawushiyan> who can speak chinese
03:23 <dawushiyan> who can speak chinese?
03:24 <ivantis> my english class recently had china day
03:24 <ivantis> we ate chinese food
03:24 <ivantis> it was fun
03:24 <ivantis> but it didnt really make sense, it was english, not chinese
03:25 <dawushiyan> I am chinese.my english is poor
03:27 <dawushiyan> can you teach me how to find a channel where they are chinese
03:27 <ivantis> uh
03:28 <ivantis> no
03:28 <ivantis> #google chinese irc server
03:28 <armabot> ivantis: Search took 0.14 seconds: Using MIRC or any other IRC software to communicate - Chinese ...: <http://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=389>; P J I R C - the best free IRC java applet there is: <http://forum.pjirc.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4391>; Interaction Between Instructor and Student in a Web-Based Chinese ...: <http://www.csulb.edu/~txie/HAMILTON/interaction.doc>; IRC (2 more messages)
03:28 <dawushiyan> thanks
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05:34 <ivantis> ct|kyle
05:34 <ivantis> did you time out or something?
05:34 <ct|kyle> ivantis: my client crashed
05:34 <ivantis> aha
05:34 <ivantis> which
05:34 <ivantis> is what happened to lm8o too
05:34 <ivantis> when i first loaded a map
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05:39 <ct|kyle> ivantis: crashed again your server sucks I'm going home
05:39 <ivantis> well
05:39 <ivantis> your client sucks
05:39 <ivantis> im staying home
05:40 <ct|kyle> ivantis: you are home alone
05:40 <ivantis> ugh
05:40 <ivantis> i hate that movie
05:40 <ct|kyle> wich one tehre were what 7 of them?
05:41 <ivantis> all of em
05:41 <ct|kyle> LOL
05:41 <ct|kyle> ]ping
05:41 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FU
05:41 <luke-jr> u
05:42 <ct|kyle> i wanted to bible search the other day
05:42 <ivantis> ]bible-search luke-jr
05:42 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why?
05:43 <ct|kyle> ivantis: luke-jr is an evil person who supports a god but is doing it wrong
05:43 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: 2012 reasearch
05:43 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: plenty of web ones
05:43 <ct|kyle> (18:08:34) ct|kyle: ivantis: luke-jr does not believe in zthreads
05:43 <ct|kyle> (18:09:33) ct|kyle: ivantis: only because he is too lazy to compile it even though Xfroggy gave him the instuctions
05:44 <ct|kyle> i was surprised i did not get a fuck you for that
05:44 <luke-jr> die
05:44 <ct|kyle> that sound more like luke-jr
05:44 <ivantis> you get the death penalty for that one
05:44 <ct|kyle> thanks :)
05:45 <ivantis> Q:	What's the difference between the 1950's and the 1980's?
05:45 <ivantis> A:	In the 80's, a man walks into a drugstore and states loudly, "I'd
05:45 <ivantis> 	like some condoms," and then, leaning over the counter, whispers,
05:45 <ivantis> 	"and some cigarettes."
05:46 <ct|kyle> ivantis: luke-jr will rot in hell someday..
05:46 <ivantis> i doubt that
05:46 <ivantis> he will live forever
05:46 <ivantis> just to annoy the hell out of people
05:46 <luke-jr> ♡ ivantis
05:47 <ct|kyle> Dec 21 2012 is beginning of a major polar shift
05:47 <ivantis> these facts of yours bore me
05:47 <ct|kyle> everyone ♡'s luke-jr because he is easy to annoy
05:48 <ct|kyle> #luke-jr-work luke-jr
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06:02 <ivantis> hey nano
06:02 <Nano1> lo bob
06:02 <Nano1> you have pie?
06:03 <ivantis> no
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06:04 <Nanotest> :o
06:05 <Nano1> lol
06:05 <Nano1> lastseen gotporn
06:05 <Nano1> er what was the syntax for this stuff again
06:06 <Nano1> lol
06:06 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen gotporn
06:06 <armabot> Nanotest: GotPorn has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 8 minutes ago.
06:06 <Nanotest> lol
06:06 <Nanotest> there we go
06:08 <ivantis> goodnight
06:08 <ivantis> #night
06:08 <armabot> Good night ivantis!
06:08 <Nanotest>  armabot Transform!
06:08 <Nanotest> lol
06:08 <Nanotest> Worth a try
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06:09 <Nanotest> lo thar noob
06:09 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen Thund3r
06:09 <Nanotest> ....
06:09 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:09 <Nanotest> Its a bit slow sometimes
06:10 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen Th_nd3r
06:10 <armabot> Nanotest: .dBd|Thµnd3r has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 7 hours 36 minutes ago.
06:10 <Thund3r> hehe
06:10 <Nanotest> armabot alias Th_nd3r
06:10 <Thund3r> its right...
06:10 <Nanotest> of course its right
06:10 <Thund3r> wtf is it?
06:10 <Nanotest> its armabot
06:10 <Nanotest> armabot alias Th_nd3r
06:11 <Nanotest> armabot alias Nano
06:11 <armabot> Nanotest: Super Duck Nano Fortress!: Players (0/14):
06:11 <Nanotest> ....
06:11 <Nanotest> armabot aka Nano
06:11 <Thund3r> haha
06:11 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿12890 slowbro .|own| nightbeast nanobeast the_hero .!vnv!hemoglobn .dbd|nightbeast excessive_ping paper_airplane nano switchback little_suicide .dbd|noobsaibot2 constrict pwnish dark_mind .dbd|nano.rev .dbd|dark_mind the_team player_a playerkiller aeon2 a-off pwncakes+syrup nano! o_'_nano arrow supernano mower .indices ~the_sex_reflex .dbd|pwncakes .dbd|pwnsauce .dbd|nanosauce love</3 (1 more message)
06:11 <Thund3r> this is so wierd
06:11 <Nanotest> armabot more
06:11 <armabot> Nanotest: .dbd|fale omgimao_' omgimaquail!o_' omgimaquail!_' knoppix .dbd|quail_)'_o lobster_wizardo [charm_noodle] ofear 0:Nano@forums
06:11 <Nanotest> rofl
06:11 <Nanotest> it has lots of aliases for me
06:11 <Thund3r> alias Th_nd3r
06:11 <Thund3r> hmm
06:11 <Nanotest> armabot aka Th_nd3r
06:12 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿22788 h_nd3r th_nd3r .dbdth_nd3r
06:12 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen mypants
06:12 <Thund3r> so, how exactly are you doing all of this?
06:12 <Nanotest> Its a bot
06:12 <Thund3r> whats the code
06:12 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:12 <Thund3r> xD
06:12 <Nanotest> Just what it looks like
06:12 <Nanotest> armabot aka Code Hunter
06:12 <Thund3r> armabot alias nano
06:13 <Nanotest> do aka, not alias
06:13 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'code_hunter'!
06:13 <armabot> Thund3r: Super Duck Nano Fortress!: Players (0/14):
06:13 <Nanotest> armabot aka ~"xzl.frozen
06:13 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿75 ~"xzl.frozen nezorf ~"xzl.frozen!
06:13 <Thund3r> oo good one
06:13 <Nanotest> armabot aka Teatime
06:13 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'teatime'!
06:13 <Thund3r> armabot aka frozen
06:13 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿11933 frozen! frozen !frozen !frozen!
06:14 <Thund3r> does it do this by IP or something?
06:14 <Nanotest> armabot aka buttsecks
06:14 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿15850 lawlnoob buttsecks
06:14 <Nanotest> lol
06:14 <Thund3r> lmao
06:14 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen .dBd|Teatime
06:14 <Thund3r> this is cool
06:14 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:14 <Nanotest> yeah there are plenty of people here but they're usually not all payin attention.  Developers and whatnot
06:14 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen pathetique
06:15 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
06:15 <Nanotest> if you say their names, their IRC client usually lets em know
06:15 <Nanotest> but I wouldn't spam Z's name over and over again
06:15 <Thund3r> so, if I said z-man
06:15 <Nanotest> Don't lol
06:15 <Thund3r> oops
06:15 <Thund3r> lmao
06:16 <Thund3r> he gets angry?
06:16 <Nanotest> Well idk I never tried pissing him off
06:16 <Nanotest> but in general you don't want to be rude and notifying people for no reason
06:16 <Nanotest> mine makes a certain sound if someone says my name in IRC
06:16 <Nanotest> so if I said Nano1
06:16 <Nanotest> yeh
06:16 <Thund3r> I didnt want it to notify him :S
06:16 <Nanotest> Then you shouldnta said nothin
06:17 <Nanotest> He probably aint around anyway tho
06:17 <Thund3r> why are we the only people with the green shirts
06:17 <Nanotest> Nano1 isnt
06:17 <Nanotest> its because those are the people on mibbit
06:18 <Nanotest> anyways when someone says Nano1 the sound clip I have for it is "[GUNSHOT]  .. Oh Im sorry, did I break your concentration?"
06:18 <Thund3r> thund3r
06:18 <Nanotest> It doesnt work on mibbit
06:18 <Nanotest> lol
06:18 <Thund3r> xD
06:18 <Nanotest> mibbit is just a web client
06:18 <Thund3r> the internet is too complicated.
06:19 <Nanotest> for porn
06:19 <Nanotest> armabot aka gotporn
06:19 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'gotporn'!
06:19 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen gotporn
06:19 <armabot> Nanotest: GotPorn has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 21 minutes ago.
06:19 <Nanotest> See, for it to know the 'aka's, you have to change between the two names
06:19 <Nanotest> in a server
06:20 <Thund3r> is that one of your names? lmao
06:20 <Thund3r> oh ok
06:20 <Nanotest> so if I was Nano in one server, and I left, changed names inbetween, and the re-entered a server as something else
06:20 <Nanotest> it wouldn't have that as an aka
06:20 <Thund3r> aka th_nd3r
06:20 <Nanotest> or if I changed from alias to alias
06:20 <Thund3r> armabot aka th_nd3r
06:20 <Nanotest> hm
06:20 <Nanotest> armabot aka noob21
06:20 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿22788 h_nd3r th_nd3r .dbdth_nd3r
06:20 <Thund3r> whos that?
06:21 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿25527 noob21
06:21 <Nanotest> haha
06:21 <Nanotest> good
06:21 <Nanotest> armabot aka noob13
06:21 <Nanotest> :S
06:21 <Nanotest> armabot aka noob5
06:21 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen angel
06:21 <armabot> Nanotest: ¿25879 |g|_noob13 noob13 0:noob13@forums
06:21 <Thund3r> lmao
06:21 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'noob5'!
06:21 <armabot> Thund3r: arkangel seems to be on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) right now.
06:21 <Nanotest> looks like noob13 smart too
06:21 <Nanotest> lol
06:22 <Thund3r> who the hell is arkangel? xD
06:22 <Thund3r> armabot go phuck yourself
06:22 <armabot> Thund3r: Search took 0.18 seconds: Go Phuck Yourself ! - HBCUCONNECT FORUMS: <http://forums.hbcuconnect.com/tha-yard/8794-go-phuck-yourself.html>; HBCUCONNECT FORUMS - View Single Post - Go Phuck Yourself !: <http://forums.hbcuconnect.com/242636-post5.html>; Listen to this beat or go phuck yourself - Rapmusic.com: <http://board.rapmusic.com/beats-producers/913727-listen-beat-go-phuck- (3 more messages)
06:22 <Nanotest> armlololol
06:22 <Thund3r> xD
06:22 <Nanotest> armabot help
06:22 <Nanotest> armabot commands
06:22 <armabot> Nanotest: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
06:23 <armabot> Nanotest: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, (4 more messages)
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot more
06:23 <Thund3r> nice
06:23 <armabot> Nanotest: dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fastfood, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, fofo, fortune, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, ivantis, jesus, joke, kill, (3 more messages)
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot fail
06:23 <armabot> fail
06:23 <Nanotest> lol
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot more
06:23 <Thund3r> lol
06:23 <armabot> Nanotest: killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, lock, log, log, logs, ls, luke, lukejrworks, m, mail, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, n00b, nano, new, night, no, noob, null, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, (2 more messages)
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot killsome Thunder
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot killsomeone Thunder
06:23 <Thund3r> aka lightning
06:23 <Nanotest> wait what
06:23 <Nanotest> armabot nano
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot path
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot path2
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: Super Duck Nano Fortress!: Players (0/14):
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot more
06:24 <Thund3r> aka light
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: praise, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, roulotte, rules, r‭oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, si, sillybot, sing, slap, smoke, snap, spam, speed, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, (1 more message)
06:24 <Thund3r> armabot aka light
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot roulette
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot spam
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:24 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿106 light lacus
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: *click*
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot more
06:24 <armabot> Nanotest: test, test123, testing, tg, thank, the, thing, toast, trunkbuilds, tst4, tst5, tstservers, ty, ubuntu, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, where, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, wut, ww, x, xd, yay, ying, ys, zomg, zomb, zomg, and ‭
06:24 <Nanotest> armabot wrtlprnft
06:25 <Thund3r> p4
06:25 <Thund3r> p4
06:25 <Nanotest> armabot where?are?the?noobs??
06:25 <Nanotest> armabot the
06:26 <luke-jr> #help luke
06:26 <luke-jr> #help lukejrworks
06:26 <armabot> luke-jr: (luke <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo blah blah jesus blah blah i'm great or smth blah blah RTFM blah blah stfu baka noob blah blah".
06:26 <luke-jr> #alias remove luke
06:26 <armabot> luke-jr: (lukejrworks <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ♪ $* are obsolete. ♫".
06:26 <luke-jr> #alias remove lukejrworks
06:26 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
06:26 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
06:26 <Nanotest> :)
06:26 <Nanotest> a lot of junk commands, in there
06:26 <Nanotest> lol
06:26 <Thund3r> I just watched that new rambo
06:26 <Thund3r> crazy shit
06:27 <ct|kyle> .alias add lukejrworks echo ♪ $* are obsolete. ♫
06:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
06:27 <ct|kyle> .lock lukejrworks
06:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
06:27 <Nanotest> lol
06:27 <ct|kyle> .lukejrworks time
06:27 <tronner> ♪ time are obsolete. ♫
06:27 <Nanotest> .lukejrworks penises
06:28 <tronner> ♪ penises are obsolete. ♫
06:28 <Nanotest> :S rofl
06:28 <luke-jr> .alias remove lukejrworks
06:28 <ct|kyle> #lukejrworks Nano
06:28 <Thund3r> everone is talking now ^^
06:28 <armabot> ♪ Nano are obsolete. ♫
06:28 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: remove it idiot
06:28 <luke-jr> #help obsolete
06:28 <armabot> luke-jr: (obsolete <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ♪ $* is obsolete. ♫".
06:28 <luke-jr> exists for that
06:28 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen luke-jr
06:28 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i am dead i can't
06:28 <luke-jr> #obsolete ct|kyle
06:28 <armabot> ♪ ct|kyle is obsolete. ♫
06:28 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
06:28 <Nanotest> lol
06:28 <Nanotest> usually if it times out, it means it doesnt know
06:28 <Thund3r> armabot why do you fail me
06:29 <ct|kyle> ]?
06:29 <Nanotest> armabot lastseen being helpful
06:29 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen pb4l
06:29 <Nanotest> armabot aka being helpful
06:29 <armabot> Nanotest: timed out
06:29 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
06:29 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'being_helpful'!
06:29 <Nanotest> hehe
06:29 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen pb4l
06:30  * luke-jr listens to Kesenai Tsumi
06:30 <Thund3r> haha
06:30 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
06:30 <Thund3r> rofl nano
06:30 <Nanotest> armabot aka the birds and the bees
06:30 <armabot> Nanotest: I don't know anything about 'the_birds_and_the_bees'!
06:30 <Nanotest> :S   XD
06:30 <Thund3r> hahah
06:31 <Thund3r> armabot aka buttsecks
06:31 <Thund3r> hmm
06:31 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿15850 lawlnoob buttsecks
06:31 <Thund3r> bull
06:31 <Thund3r> crap
06:31 <Nanotest> I already did that
06:31 <Nanotest> actually
06:32 <ct|kyle> .bed ct|kyle
06:32 <tronner> ct|kyle, it's time to sleep. Be a nice boy and go to your bed :)
06:32 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
06:32 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 68.2°F (12:32 AM EDT on September 13, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling).
06:32 <Nanotest> o.o
06:32 <Nanotest> .weather 92067
06:32 <tronner> Nanotest: The current temperature in Senterra, Villages of Fairbanks, San Diego, California is 66.9°F (9:30 PM PDT on September 12, 2008). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
06:32 <ct|kyle> 100% chance of rain tomorrow
06:32 <Nanotest> Villages of Fairbanks? lolwut?
06:32 <Nanotest> 100% chance of rain? o.o
06:32 <ct|kyle> and i'm in indiana no Texas
06:33 <ct|kyle> not*
06:33 <Nanotest> Who said nothin bout texas
06:33 <Thund3r> help math homework
06:33 <Nanotest> armabot help Thunder get a life
06:33 <armabot> Nanotest: Error: There is no command "thunder get a life".
06:33 <Thund3r> is 92067 a zip code or something?
06:33 <Nanotest> yeh
06:33 <Thund3r> lmao
06:33 <Nanotest> .weather 92013
06:33 <tronner> Nanotest: The current temperature in The Cliffs, Carlsbad, California is 65.7°F (9:29 PM PDT on September 12, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Rising).
06:34 <Thund3r> cool
06:34 <Nanotest> Hm I thought that was the zip code for downtown
06:34 <Thund3r> .weather 83745
06:34 <Nanotest> musta got my brain crosswired
06:34 <ct|kyle> .bedforce ct|kyle
06:34 <tronner> Some nasty kobold hunt ct|kyle down and bring him to his bed! Goddamn sleep!
06:34 <Thund3r> I wonder were 83745 is
06:34 <Nanotest> lol kobolds
06:34 <ct|kyle> .weather 76435
06:34 <Nanotest> maybe it doesnt exist
06:34 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Brownwood, Texas is 78.8°F (11:22 PM CDT on September 12, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:34 <Thund3r> .weather 36691
06:34 <tronner> Thund3r: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Mobile, Alabama is 81.3°F (11:30 PM CDT on September 12, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).  Coastal flood advisory in effect until 11 am CDT Saturday...
06:34 <Nanotest> since it hasnt answered you yet
06:35 <Nanotest> Coastal flood advisory
06:35 <Nanotest> :o
06:35 <Thund3r> lol..
06:35 <ct|kyle> #weather 45623
06:35 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Harris Hall, Huntington, West Virginia is 75.6°F (12:35 AM EDT on September 13, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
06:35 <Thund3r> why do we have a flood advisory lol
06:35 <ct|kyle> #weather $randomNick
06:35 <Nanotest> for porn
06:35 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
06:35 <Thund3r> stupid hurricane >.>
06:36 <Nanotest> coastal flooding porn
06:36 <Thund3r> .weather 36695
06:36 <tronner> Thund3r: The current temperature in Spring Brook Villas, Mobile, Alabama is 81.3°F (11:36 PM CDT on September 12, 2008). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 75.2°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).  Coastal flood advisory in effect until 11 am CDT Saturday...
06:36 <Nanotest> lol you have a hurricane and you wonder why theres a flood advisory?
06:36 <Thund3r> wtf is spring brook villas
06:36 <Thund3r> xD
06:36 <Thund3r> the hurrican is in Texas though
06:36 <ct|kyle> #night
06:36 <Nanotest> yeah its idea of what my area code is called is weird too
06:36 <ct|kyle> .night
06:36 <tronner> Good night ct|kyle!
06:36 <armabot> Good night ct|kyle!
06:36 <Thund3r> Houston and Galviston
06:36 <Thund3r> .night
06:36 <tronner> Good night Thund3r!
06:37 <Thund3r> sweet
06:37 <Nanotest> #night mommy
06:37 <Nanotest> .night mommy
06:37 <tronner> Good night Nanotest!
06:37 <Thund3r> they love me
06:37 <Nanotest> hm
06:37 <Nanotest> no parameters
06:37 <Thund3r> .porn
06:37 <armabot> Good night Nanotest!
06:37 <Thund3r> :'(
06:37 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
06:37 <Thund3r> .armagetron
06:38 <Thund3r> who is kyle?
06:38 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/KT.mp3
06:38 <Nanotest> Kyle?
06:38 <Nanotest> Kyle is map-makin guy
06:38 <Nanotest> or something like that
06:38 <Nanotest> like with Crazy Tronners
06:39 <Nanotest> Wiiiiild Fortress
06:39 <luke-jr> what's with all teh n00bs here tonight?
06:39 <Nanotest> Just Thund3r
06:40 <Nanotest> He found an IRC log on the net and was confused
06:40 <Nanotest> so I show him IRC
06:40 <Nanotest> lol
06:40 <luke-jr> Nanotest: you too
06:40 <Thund3r> luke-jr is a mommies boy
06:40 <luke-jr> Thund3r: you want a spanking?
06:40 <luke-jr> n00b
06:40 <Nanotest> Nano is not a noob :|  I just haven't come by to play with the bot fo awhile
06:40 <Nanotest> *for
06:41 <Thund3r> Thund3r is a noob :}
06:41 <Nanotest> For Porn
06:41 <luke-jr> you're both n00bs
06:41 <Thund3r> at least im not a noob to porn
06:41 <Nanotest> omg you hurt my feelings!
06:41 -!- Nanotest [i=48dc589d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-68e6b433ce01b0c0] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
06:41 <Nano1> omg my feelings too!
06:41 -!- Nano1 [n=Owner@ip72-220-88-157.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #armagetron ["Leaving."]
06:42 <P4> Thund3r: yes?
06:42 <luke-jr> porn should be illegal
06:42 <Thund3r> lol...
06:42 <Thund3r> :o
06:42 <Thund3r> p4 I said your name like 20 minutes ago ^.^
06:42 <luke-jr> P4: hi
06:42 <Thund3r> porn is illegal unless youre 18
06:42 <luke-jr> P4: did you stop that 'doh' spam?
06:42 <Thund3r> or older
06:42 <luke-jr> Thund3r: it should be illegal period
06:43 <Thund3r> p4 is my sweetheart
06:43 <luke-jr> anyone producing it put in jail
06:43 <luke-jr> etc
06:43 -!- Nano1 [n=Owner@ip72-220-88-157.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
06:43 <P4> didn't i stop?
06:43 <luke-jr> P4: no idea
06:43 <luke-jr> I hope so
06:43 <luke-jr> it was fscking annoying
06:43 <P4> luke? i'v ejust wake up (0650)
06:43 <luke-jr> P4: and?
06:43 <P4> i think it's disabled, am i wrong?
06:43 <Nano1> btw, luke-jr, care to demonstrate your pro skills on the grids then?
06:43 <luke-jr> Nano1: sure, my venue?
06:44 <Thund3r> lol...
06:44 <Thund3r> I hope he doesnt say high rubber ;D
06:44 <Nano1> Your 'venue'?  You hosting a concert?
06:44 <luke-jr> Nano1: learn english
06:44 <Nano1> I know what it means
06:44 <luke-jr> obviously not
06:44 <luke-jr> Thund3r: either high or none
06:44 <Nano1> But thats the only context one normally hears that word in
06:44 <luke-jr> I don't like low rubber. ☺
06:45 <Nano1> eh, brb, Im going to go to the luke jr arma channel
06:45 <luke-jr> Nano1: maybe teens and babies
06:45 -!- Nano1 [n=Owner@ip72-220-88-157.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #armagetron ["Leaving."]
06:45 <luke-jr> if we're gonna play with rubber, it might as well be a lot
06:45 <Thund3r> whats wrong with you today luke?
06:45 <luke-jr> Thund3r: nothing
06:45 <luke-jr> but nano is acting like ivantis
06:45 <Thund3r> you dont seem yourself
06:45 <luke-jr> so I'm treating him as such
06:46 <luke-jr> Thund3r: you wanna challenge me on teh grid too?
06:46 <luke-jr> I'll take both of you on DD HR ;)
06:47 <Thund3r> I dont think I need to challenge you in armagetron :) I cant play now anyways, and Ive played with you before
06:47 <luke-jr> I'm on the top of DD HR's ladder ;)
06:48 <Thund3r> congrats :} but ladders can be manipulated
06:50 <luke-jr> can be != are
06:50 <luke-jr> ]rating luke-jr
06:50 <ljrbot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 134th with a rating of 1650-1709 (from 1653-1706)
06:51 <luke-jr> ]rating Thund3r
06:51 <ljrbot> luke-jr: thund3r is 2725th with a rating of 1501-1584 (from 1503-1583)
06:51 <luke-jr> lolz
06:52 <Thund3r> heh, what is that?
06:53 <luke-jr> ratings
06:53 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net
06:54 <Thund3r> wow...
06:55 <Thund3r> how does it rate you?
06:55 <luke-jr> Glicko2
06:57 <Thund3r> I dont even know who 80% of those people are, and I can name players that are better than anyone on that list at what they play xD whatever, it doesnt matter
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07:12 <Thund3r> hi epsy and froggy
07:13 <epsy> hi Thund3r
07:17 <Thund3r> whats up?
07:18 <epsy> moon
07:20 <Thund3r> thats cute :)
07:22 <xfroggy_tr> Oo
07:22 <Thund3r> :D
07:22 <xfroggy_tr> >.>
07:23 <Thund3r> ^.^
07:25 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen epsy
07:25 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
07:25 <epsy> zomg lastseen epsy
07:25 <teabot> epsy: timed out
07:25 <Thund3r> : )
07:25 <epsy> @help lastseen
07:25 <teabot> epsy: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player= [format join + $*]]".
07:26 <Thund3r> 0 arguments? lol!
07:26 <Thund3r> armabot aka helping
07:26 <armabot> Thund3r: I don't know anything about 'helping'!
07:26 <Thund3r> armabot aka being useful
07:27 <armabot> Thund3r: I don't know anything about 'being_useful'!
07:27 <epsy> lol, it's probably a supybot bug
07:27 <Thund3r> mwuahah
07:27 <epsy> that takes arguments
07:27 <epsy> zomg help ls
07:27 <teabot> epsy: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
07:27 <epsy> strange
07:27 <Thund3r> zomg helo
07:27 <Thund3r> zomg help
07:27 <teabot> Thund3r: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
07:28 <epsy> urmum help plugin help
07:28 <teabot> epsy: (plugin help <plugin>) -- Returns a useful description of how to use <plugin>, if the plugin has one.
07:28 <Thund3r> you wanna see something cool? :D
07:28 <epsy> urmum plugin help bugtracker
07:28 <teabot> epsy: Show a link to a bug report with a brief description
07:28 <epsy> aw
07:28 <Thund3r> .weather 26691
07:28 <tronner> Thund3r: The current temperature in Sutton, West Virginia is 68.0°F (1:22 AM EDT on September 13, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
07:28 <Thund3r> eh? eh? :D
07:28 <epsy> zomg list
07:28 <teabot> epsy: Alias, ChannelRelay, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Misc, Nickometer, QGoogle, Quote, RSS, Scheduler, String, Time, User, Utilities, and Web
07:28 <Thund3r> *nudge*
07:28 <epsy> @calc 68 F in C
07:28 <teabot> epsy: 68 degrees Fahrenheit = 20 degrees Celsius
07:29 <Thund3r> cool!
07:29 <epsy> humidity 100% ? LOL
07:29 <Thund3r> I actually mispelled my zip code xD
07:29 <Thund3r> it was
07:29 <epsy> urmum plugin help herald
07:29 <teabot> epsy: That plugin is loaded, but has no plugin help.
07:29 <Thund3r> .weather 36691
07:29 <tronner> Thund3r: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Mobile, Alabama is 81.3°F (12:26 AM CDT on September 13, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).  Coastal flood advisory in effect until 11 am CDT Saturday...
07:29 <epsy> urmum plugin help qgoogle
07:29 <teabot> epsy: Add the help for "@plugin help QGoogle" here This should describe *how* to use this plugin.
07:29 <Thund3r> there we go ^^
07:29 <epsy> now that's an useful description
07:30 <Thund3r> *how*
07:30 <Thund3r> how
07:30 <Thund3r> teabot how
07:30 <Thund3r> teabot more
07:30 <teabot> Thund3r: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
07:30 <Thund3r> xD
07:30 <epsy> that message is a placeholder in the module templates
07:30 <epsy> @armaservers
07:30 <teabot> epsy: This data is 26 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/16), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (6/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (4/16), Swampland in 0.2.8 (4/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (4/14), The Fight Arena High Rubber Mode (2/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (2/16), Nexus9 Deathmatch (No Rubber) (1/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1 more message)
07:31 <epsy> zomg moar !
07:31 <teabot> epsy: Error: I haven't seen !.
07:31 <epsy> zomg moar
07:31 <teabot> epsy: (1/12)
07:31 <Thund3r> epsy, youre going to have to bear with me, Im not that computer knowledgable ;)
07:31 <epsy> Thund3r, it's the guy who made the plugin who was meant to edit this message
07:31 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen epsy
07:31 <Thund3r> oh i see
07:31 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
07:32 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen th_nd3r
07:32 <armabot> Thund3r: .dBd|Thµnd3r has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 8 hours 59 minutes ago.
07:32 <Thund3r> xD
07:32 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen arilou
07:32 <armabot> Thund3r: arilouwannabe has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 1 day 9 hours 6 minutes ago.
07:32 <epsy> epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 day 13 hours 17 minutes ago.
07:32 <Thund3r> epsy! :o
07:33 <Thund3r> you need to play with me more
07:33 <epsy> i'll need to put up a more efficient way of doing that
07:33 <Thund3r> : )
07:33 <Ttech> armabot lastseen The Doctor
07:33 <Ttech> >:
07:33 <Ttech> armabot lastseen Ttech
07:33 <Thund3r> hi :D
07:33 <epsy> moar than 5 seconds for someone last seen one day agao is not acceptable
07:33 <armabot> Ttech: timed out
07:33 <Ttech> :/
07:33 <armabot> Ttech: timed out
07:33 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=ttech
07:33 <Thund3r> xD
07:33 <Ttech> it not loading
07:34 <Thund3r> so do you run this?
07:34 <Ttech> Prolly got destroyed by the LHC
07:34 <Ttech> :/
07:34 <epsy> Ttech, it's looking thru the db
07:34 <Thund3r> you blush alot :(
07:34 <Thund3r> :) *
07:35 <Thund3r> ugh oh :o
07:35 <Thund3r> its past my bed time
07:35 <Thund3r> .night
07:35 <tronner> Good night Thund3r!
07:35 <Thund3r> :D
07:35 <Ttech> What ya think of the LHC Anyone?
07:35 <Thund3r> cya epsy, ttech
07:35 <Ttech> nye
07:35 <epsy> bb
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07:40 <epsy> bbl in 2 hrs and a half or so
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07:46 <luke-jr> -.-
07:46 <luke-jr> if that was ivantis, I think wrtlprnft has official grounds to ignore him on the bot now
08:02 <xfroggy_tr> :o
08:29 <wrtlprnft> well, it wouldn't have helped a lot, would it?
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08:44 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: depends on how the ban is
08:44 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore list
08:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: 'ballsac!n=atifali@', 'gghh!i=revived@iraqi.army.isoverrated.com', 'x80!i=Elite@p3m/member/x80', 'hifjifs!n=hifjifs@124-197-4-107.callplus.net.nz', '*!*@unaffiliated/ivantis', 'kazol*!*@*', 'Aynuhl_Sehks!n=tboone@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net', 'spainish!n=spanish_@', 'hhgg!i=revived@prune.juice.or.poonjuice.us', '*!*@', (8 more messages)
08:44 <luke-jr> ]more
08:44 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '*!i=3ff5a67c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*', 'Raylen!n=Raylen@adsl-69-235-199-157.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net', 'Ziggy_Sawdust!n=zatoshi@', 'USAPoliticalPUND!n=none@ool-43551b92.dyn.optonline.net', 'jodedor!n=vain@adsl-75-45-219-32.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net', 'jesus!n=DrJoeTro@adsl-76-215-1-97.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net', 'PipHog1!n=piphogta@unaffiliated/piphog', (7 more messages)
08:44 <luke-jr> hmm
08:44 <luke-jr> this might be long
08:44 <luke-jr> any way to skip to the end? :x
08:45 <luke-jr> ]help more
08:45 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (more [<nick>]) -- If the last command was truncated due to IRC message length limitations, returns the next chunk of the result of the last command. If <nick> is given, it takes the continuation of the last command from <nick> instead of the person sending this message.
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18:12 <Rogue> Whats up peeps
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18:13 <Rogue> Hello
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18:18 <luke-jr> ]pingme
18:18 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "pingme" is not a valid command.
18:18 <luke-jr> ]doping
18:18 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "doping" is not a valid command.
18:18 <luke-jr> meh
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18:35 <luke-jr> ♥ Perl
18:35 <luke-jr> hmm
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19:01 <ivantis> Q:	How many IBM CPU's does it take to do a logical right shift?
19:01 <ivantis> A:	33.  1 to hold the bits and 32 to push the register.
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20:01 <noob13> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
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20:32 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen tax
20:32 <armabot> Thund3r: stax has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 2 hours 49 minutes ago.
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22:14 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8563 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: AUTHORITY_LEVEL, finally :)
22:17 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r884 AUTHORITY_LEVEL, finally :)...
22:22 <noob13> what does it do?
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22:57 <Ttech> teabot????
22:58 <epsy> Ttech, ?
22:58 <epsy> noob13, sets the access level for everyone coming from the said authority
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23:22 <noob13> epsy: ok, i see
23:24 <epsy> it will either pick the best or the worst access level one can get, depending on the case
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23:49 <ivantis> noob13: how do you get that DNS as mastercontrolprogram.de?

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00:14 <noob13> ivantis: i run my irc client on a shell at mcp.de
00:14 <ivantis> oh
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03:48 <ivantis> weird
03:48 <ivantis> i just got an internal server error from youtube
03:55 <ct|kyle> ivantis: heh i just got one from MyMathLab
03:56 <ivantis> it must be the internet is breaking down
03:56 <ct|kyle> ahhh everyone run
03:57 <ct|kyle> i can get to youtube
03:57 <ivantis> no
03:57 <ivantis> it was only once
03:57 <ct|kyle> ah
03:57 <ivantis> when i refreshed it cleared
03:57 <ct|kyle> mine was twice
03:57 <ivantis> youre doing homework?
03:57 <ivantis> on a saturday?
03:57 <ivantis> geek
03:59 <ct|kyle> lol i gotta work all day tomorrow and if i don't the power probably went out
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04:01 <ct|kyle> and since this is college and i did not do a dam thing all week it would make sense to do homework now right ivantis
04:02 <ivantis> hmm
04:02 <ivantis> yeah it would
04:02  * ivantis saw a rainbow earlier today
04:02 <ct|kyle> lol
04:02 <ct|kyle> double rainbows are way cooler
04:04 <ivantis> Man is the only animal that blushes -- or needs to.
04:04 <ivantis> 		-- Mark Twain
04:04 <ivantis> how do i setup a command to run at login?
04:04 <ivantis> i like /usr/games/fortune
04:06 <ct|kyle> bash.rc?
04:06 <ct|kyle> err
04:07 <ivantis> look
04:07 <ivantis> is this normal?
04:07 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$ xeyes -display :10.0
04:07 <ivantis> Error: Can't open display: :10.0
04:07 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$
04:07 <ct|kyle> ya
04:07 <ivantis> on the terminal that is display :10.0 it says:
04:07 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$ X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
04:07 <ct|kyle> lol
04:08 <ivantis> but im the same user???
04:08 <ct|kyle> lol
04:08 <ivantis> x11 is gay and stupid
04:08 <ivantis> ill bet x10 was better
04:08 <ct|kyle> that reminds me
04:08 <ivantis> that?
04:09 <ct|kyle> wine an windows have a lot in common not only does wine and windows both "windows apps" they both are also progressively getting worse
04:11 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i'm still getting an internal server error
04:11 <ivantis> how odd
04:12 <ct|kyle> heh server is down
04:12 <ct|kyle> or i donno the proper IP of it
04:20 <ivantis> Q:	Why does Washington have the most lawyers per capita and
04:20 <ivantis> 	New Jersey the most toxic waste dumps?
04:20 <ivantis> A:	God gave New Jersey first choice.
04:22 <ivantis> dude
04:22 <ivantis> even as root i cant open displays on other people
04:22 <ivantis> how gay
04:22 <ct|kyle> you're getting a dell
04:22 <ct|kyle> :P
04:22 <ivantis> huh?
04:23 <ct|kyle> old ad dude you're getting a dell
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05:24 <luke-jr> well
05:24 <luke-jr> I confirmed the gmail<->dashjr stuff is Google's fault
05:24 <luke-jr> idiots
05:25 <luke-jr> hopefully they'll fix it now that I've brought it to their attention
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17:32 <ivantis> well
17:33 <ivantis> that settles it
17:33 <Ttech> anyway
17:52 <ivantis> wireshark has its own thing for IRC packets
17:52 <ivantis> cool
17:53 <ivantis> TESTING
17:53 <ivantis> 0000  00 1c df 4a f0 91 00 0c  f1 a6 2c 87 08 00 45 00   ...J.... ..,...E.
17:53 <ivantis> 0010  00 52 bc 4a 40 00 40 06  57 dd c0 a8 02 02 d1 b1   .R.J@.@. W.......
17:53 <ivantis> 0020  92 22 e3 95 1f 41 51 6a  62 d1 6e 0d af 6a 80 18   ."...AQj b.n..j..
17:53 <ivantis> 0030  07 d3 4d 96 00 00 01 01  08 0a 1c 05 15 b3 69 68   ..M..... ......ih
17:53 <ivantis> 0040  f0 6b 50 52 49 56 4d 53  47 20 23 61 72 6d 61 67   .kPRIVMS G #armag
17:53 <ivantis> 0050  65 74 72 6f 6e 20 3a 54  45 53 54 49 4e 47 0d 0a   etron :T ESTING..
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18:00 <epsy> lol Ttech gone on spammage again :9
18:00 <ivantis> Excess Flooded him out
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18:24 <ivantis> cool, http://per.ms/
18:25 <ivantis> #title http://per.ms/
18:25 <armabot> ivantis: Error: The command "title" is available in the Format and Web plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "title".
18:25 <ivantis> #web title http://per.ms/
18:25 <armabot> ivantis: Unix Permissions Chmod Calculator
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18:27 <epsy> ivantis, you do not need that shite >.<
18:27 <ivantis> i forget all the time!
18:27 <ivantis> most of the time
18:27 <epsy> chmod who+what or chmod who-what is sufficient for most tasks
18:28 <ivantis> not for me
18:28 <epsy> eg. chmod a+x
18:28 <ivantis> i think numbers are better
18:28 <epsy> 101
18:28 <ivantis> so a is all, o is owner?
18:28 <ivantis> g is group?
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18:28 <ivantis> o+x lets the owner execute right?
18:28 <hoop> yes
18:28 <epsy> u = user, g= group, o = others
18:29 <ivantis> yeah
18:29 <ivantis> what i thought
18:29 <hoop> ah
18:29 <epsy> not owner! others!
18:29 <ivantis> oh
18:29 <ivantis> well whats a?
18:29 <epsy> (and a = all, indeed)
18:29 <hoop> al
18:29  * ivantis better get to work on his homework
18:30 <epsy> i thought working on homework during weekend was for loosers
18:30 <epsy> hey hoop btw :)
18:30 <ivantis> its due tomorrow
18:30 <hoop> sup
18:30 <ivantis> when am i supposed to do it?
18:30 <ivantis> on saturdays is for loosers
18:30 <ivantis> s/loosers/geeks/
18:31 <hoop> epsy: launchpad thing is done, thanks for the input :)
18:31 <epsy> URL?
18:31 <hoop> https://launchpad.net/vectron/
18:31 <epsy> want me to add vectron commits announcing to teabot here?
18:31 <hoop> oO
18:31 <ivantis> no downloads?
18:31 <ivantis> i want it
18:32 <hoop> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18689
18:32 <epsy> hoop, do you want teabot to announce vectron commits here?
18:32 <hoop> or just use bzr
18:32 <hoop> idk, is that useful?
18:32 <ivantis> will teabot announce my commits?
18:33 <epsy> ivantis, yes, it does
18:33 <hoop> is teabot your bot?
18:33 <epsy> yes
18:33 <hoop> lol
18:33 <hoop> what's a commit exactly? XD
18:33 <epsy> new revision
18:33 <epsy> (bzr ci is short for bzr commit)
18:34 <hoop> ok
18:34 <hoop> fine for me, do it :) (i lol'd for teabot name btw)
18:34 <ivantis> how do i install gtkmm?
18:34 <hoop> ubuntu?
18:34 <epsy> ivantis, package manager
18:35 <ivantis> whats the package name?
18:35 <epsy> it was gtkmm here
18:35 <ivantis> couldnt find package gtkmm
18:35 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$ sudo apt-get install gtkmm
18:35 <ivantis> [sudo] password for ivantis:
18:35 <ivantis> Reading package lists... Done
18:35 <ivantis> Building dependency tree
18:35 <ivantis> Reading state information... Done
18:35 <ivantis> E: Couldn't find package gtkmm
18:35 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$ sudo apt-get install gtkmm-2.4
18:35 <ivantis> Reading package lists... Done
18:35 <ivantis> Building dependency tree
18:35 <ivantis> Reading state information... Done
18:35 <ivantis> E: Couldn't find package gtkmm-2.4
18:35 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$ sudo apt-get install gtk
18:35 <ivantis> Reading package lists... Done
18:35 <ivantis> Building dependency tree
18:35 <ivantis> Reading state information... Done
18:35 <ivantis> E: Couldn't find package gtk
18:35 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$
18:36 <ivantis> none of em
18:36 <epsy> @rss add vectronci http://feeds.launchpad.net/vectron/revisions.atom
18:36 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:36 <epsy> ivantis, try to use package search first
18:36 <ivantis> k
18:36 <epsy> @announce #armagetron vectronci
18:36 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:36 <teabot> vectronci: [trunk] r1 first upload...
18:36 <hoop> ;)
18:37 <ivantis> oh
18:37 <ivantis> libgtkmm
18:37 <hoop> ^^
18:37 <hoop> does gtkmm require cairomm itself?
18:38 <ivantis> its already at the newest version???
18:38 <epsy> it only recommends it i think
18:38 <epsy> ivantis, good!
18:40 <hoop> how does it work with patches? Is it up to the proj admin to approve them, or they are merged automatically?
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18:40 <epsy> patches.
18:40 <epsy> ?*
18:42 <hoop> lol I'm kinda confused, nvm, I'll do some test
18:43 <ivantis> i want iice cream
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18:46 <ivantis> stellar
18:46 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$ vectron
18:46 <ivantis> Error: cannot read map file /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:46 <ivantis> cAamap::Create(): error loading /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:46 <ivantis> Error: cannot read map file /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:46 <ivantis> cAamap::Create(): error loading /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:46 <ivantis> Segmentation fault
18:46 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$
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18:48 <ivantis> how do i use this thing?
18:48 <hoop> please read the README
18:48 <ivantis> k
18:49 <ivantis> when i click with zone selected it has a seg fault
18:49 <ivantis> your program sucks
18:50 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$ src/vectron
18:50 <ivantis> Error: cannot read map file /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:50 <ivantis> cAamap::Create(): error loading /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:50 <ivantis> Segmentation fault
18:50 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~/Desktop/vectron$
18:51 <ivantis> ??
18:52 <hoop> you suck, does this path have sense to you? /path/to/vectron/src/resource/template.xml
18:52 <ivantis> how do i make it a better one??
18:53 <hoop> /home/ivantis/some/folders/here/vectron-0.2312etc./src
18:53 <ivantis> oh
18:53 <ivantis> but how do i set that??
18:53 <hoop> please read the README
18:54 <ivantis> oh i see now
18:54 <ivantis> silly me
18:55 <hoop> epsy: does it usually take time to update new pushed revisions?
18:56 <ivantis> it takes a few minutes
18:57 <hoop> ok
18:57 <hoop> worked out?
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18:58 <ivantis> yeah
18:59 <hoop> hi forggy
18:59 <hoop> what a typo XD
19:00 <ivantis> it makes zones
19:00 <ivantis> but i cant see the walls?
19:01 <hoop> you can't 'see' or you cant 'draw' walls?
19:01 <ivantis> see
19:01 <hoop> from a loaded map?
19:02 <ivantis> well
19:02 <ivantis> i opened sumo.xml
19:02 <ivantis> i see the outer walls, but when i draw new walls i cant see them
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19:02 <hoop> the you can't 'draw' walls so
19:02 <hoop> that's not implemented yet
19:02 <hoop> only winzones atm
19:03 <ivantis> oh
19:03 <hoop> you may want to read the topic to know its develop stage
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19:06 <ivantis> btw
19:06 <ivantis> you remember my KILL_ALL command?
19:06 <ivantis> you should look at that
19:06 <ivantis> …
19:07 <ivantis> nvm
19:07 <ivantis> i fixed the bug
19:07 <ivantis> you ought to look at ACME
19:07 <ivantis> lucifers map editor
19:08 <ivantis> its written in python using pygame
19:09 <hoop> I've read time ago about that, but I couldn't find it again 'cause I forgot the name
19:09 <ivantis> i use it
19:10 <ivantis> i made my boxes map with it
19:10 <ivantis> but it uses the original map.dtd, which is far out of date and wont even run on 0.3.0
19:10 <ivantis> so you have to edit it by hand a little
19:11 <ivantis> hoop
19:11 <ivantis> what book did you read to learn that?
19:11 <ivantis> i want to make a GUI app
19:12 <ivantis> my C++ knowledge i lacking
19:12 <hoop> http://www.gtkmm.org/
19:14 <hoop> I've posted some links here
19:14 <hoop> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199086#199086
19:15 <hoop> is there a working link to download ACME?
19:16 <ivantis> yeah
19:16 <ivantis> its on the wiki
19:16 <hoop> ok nvm, found it
19:30  * ivantis needs homework help
19:31 <ivantis> If a student wants to go to college, then the student must study hard.
19:31 <ivantis> Rashid wants to go to the University of North Carolina.
19:31 <ivantis> i guess that means Rashid must study hard.
19:34 <teabot> vectronci: [trunk] r2 ask the user to read the README...
19:35 <ivantis> lol
19:39 <ivantis> so the gtk stuff comes from an XML document?
19:39 <ivantis> cool
19:39 <ivantis> hoop: correct?
19:40 <hoop> if you want to use glade, yes
19:41 <ivantis> im doing stuff with the tutorial at http://www.micahcarrick.com/03-02-2006/gnome-programming-tutorial.html
19:41 <hoop> I'm not using it though, I need better control
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20:41 <epsy> hoop, to update the page it takes 5 mins at max, for the feeds 30 mins
20:42 -!- mkzelda [i=mkzelda@unaffiliated/mkzelda] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:43 <hoop> I saw, thanks
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20:56 <ivantis> hoop: ty for the tip
20:56 <ivantis> this gtk glade stuff is cool
20:57 <hoop> yea
20:57 <ivantis> how do i call a C++ variable from glade?
20:58 <hoop> idk, I don't use glade
20:59 <ivantis> oh ok
20:59 <hoop> I suggest you better off learn gtk itself before using glade
21:02 <ivantis> thats a good idea
21:03 <hoop> and if you're using c++, use gtkmm
21:03 <hoop> http://www.gtkmm.org/docs/gtkmm-2.4/docs/FAQ/html/index.html#id2560457
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21:18 <Monkey_arma> It's impressive that for the CT vs DS 7v7 clan war about 18 people turned up
21:21 <hoop> :o
21:21 <emmy_arma> :P
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21:37 <teabot> vectronci: [trunk] r3 moved resource folder from vectron/src/ to vectron/...
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23:19 <epsy> hoop, btw, i think you forgot to run "bzr launchpad-login hoop"
23:19 <epsy> hoop, also, bzr mv would have been way handier
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23:42 <madmax> hello
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23:52 <hoop> holla madmax
23:52 <hoop> =9

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00:07 <madmax> hi hoop
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00:19 <hoop> madmax: we are gonna play fort on tr
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00:52 <mib_d3od1m> anyone here
00:52 <mib_d3od1m> :X
00:52 <ivantis> im here
00:52 <ivantis> who are you?
00:52 <mib_d3od1m> ratchet!
00:52 <mib_d3od1m> hey!
00:52 <ivantis> change your name with /nick <name>
00:52 <ivantis> hey ratchet
00:52 -!- mib_d3od1m is now known as Ratchet
00:52 <Ratchet> thar =-o
00:52 -!- Ratchet is now known as Ratchett
00:53 <Ratchett> it said ratchet r taken
00:53 <Ratchett> -.-
00:53 <ivantis> hoop: im reading a Perl-GTK tutorial, i already made a text window program
00:53 <ivantis> is it about the same for all languages?
00:53 <ivantis> im best at perl
00:53 <Ratchett> hoop is here?
00:53 <ivantis> yes sir
00:53 <Ratchett> =-o
00:53 <ivantis> look on the name list on the right
00:53 <Monkey_arma> hi Ratchett
00:53 <Ratchett> they are all here?
00:54 <Ratchett> hey monkey!
00:54 <ivantis> yep
00:54 <Ratchett> wow people stay on your site like this? :X
00:54 <Ratchett> or is there a different place too
00:54 <ivantis> huh?
00:54 <ivantis> oh, your on arma.ivantis.net?
00:54 <Ratchett> yes
00:54 <Ratchett> what are you on?
00:55 <ivantis> there are programs oh this that you can download
00:55 <ivantis> im on XChat
00:55 <ivantis> of**
00:55 <Ratchett> =-o
00:55 <Ratchett> as stated on armagetron forums
00:56 <Ratchett> I have problems compiling Tron
00:56 <ivantis> well, thats what IRC is for
00:56 <ivantis> youre on windows right?
00:57 <Ratchett> Yes
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00:57 <ivantis> well
00:57 <ivantis> ask around
00:57 <ivantis> here
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00:57 <Ratchett> HOOOOOOOOOOP
00:57 <Ratchett> WAKE UP!
00:57 <Ratchett> i r need you
00:57 <ivantis> just say "hoop"
00:58 <ivantis> his computer will probably beep at him
00:58 <Ratchett> hoop
00:58 <Ratchett> hoop
00:58 <Ratchett> hoop
00:58 <Ratchett> hoop
00:58 <ivantis> hoop: that annoying ratchet guy is here to bug you
00:58 <ivantis> loljk
00:58 <ivantis> so ratchet, learning C++?
00:58 <ivantis> not C#
00:58 <ivantis> do not learn C#, it sucks
00:59 <Ratchett> well I already know some of both, So I guess I gotta swap =X
00:59 <ivantis> do you know any other computer languages?
00:59 <Ratchett> Newp
00:59 <Ratchett> learned a little ruby
00:59 <Ratchett> that's it
00:59 <ivantis> well, i started with Perl
01:00 <ivantis> go to your local library and check out some books on Perl
01:00 <ivantis> i read Learning Perl, O'Reilly publishing
01:00 <ivantis> you should start with a smaller and simpler language than C++
01:01 <Ratchett> -.-
01:01 <Ratchett> I don't want to waste time learning smaller stuff, go for the full 100 :P
01:01 <ivantis> dude
01:01 <ivantis> youre insane
01:01 <Ratchett> hahaha
01:01 <ivantis> as well as, perl is a really simple language
01:01 <ivantis> any moron could learn it
01:01 <Ratchett> btw, no local library here in the country
01:01 <Ratchett> so is C#
01:01 <Ratchett> :D
01:02 <ivantis> duh, a moron and microsoft wrote C# (er, jacked it from C++), so any moron could program it
01:02 <Ratchett> lol
01:02 <Ratchett> So I'm a moron now?
01:02 <Ratchett> :p
01:03 <ivantis> no
01:03 <ivantis> but
01:03 <ivantis> anyone can learn perl
01:04 <ivantis> in fact, im programming it right now
01:04 <ivantis> also, learn php
01:04 <Ratchett> hey how to
01:04 <Ratchett> connect to this
01:04 <ivantis> dont dive into C++
01:04 <ivantis> connect to what?
01:04 <Ratchett> chat
01:04 <Ratchett> from xchat
01:04 <ivantis> did you download it?
01:04 <Ratchett> yes
01:05 <ivantis> connect to the network FreeNode
01:05 <ivantis> and type /join #armagetron
01:06 <Ratchett> having name problemz
01:06 <ivantis> /nick djfo3j2klfds
01:07 <Ratchett> =o
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01:07 <Ratchet-> GOT IT!
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01:07 <ivantis> gud
01:07 <Ratchet-> omg
01:07 <Ratchet-> colors
01:07 <Ratchet-> r blinding
01:09 <Ratchet-> hoop died
01:09 <Ratchet-> its obvious
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01:14 <Ratchet-> ivantis you still here?
01:14 <ivantis> yes
01:14 <Ratchet-> ok
01:15 <Ratchet-> you said theres a different way to compile armagetron?
01:16 <ivantis> uh
01:16 <ivantis> no
01:16 <ivantis> but ask ppl
01:16 <ivantis> i dont run windows
01:17 <Ratchet-> isn't there a way to do  it from command prompt
01:17 <ivantis> on linux
01:17 <Ratchet-> oh
01:17 <ivantis> not that i know of on windows
01:18 <Ratchet-> =-o
01:18 <Ratchet-> aw
01:37 <hoop> Ratchet-: sup?
01:38 <Ratchet-> HOOP!
01:38 <Ratchet-> =-o!
01:38 <Ratchet-> sup!
01:39 <hoop> why u calling me
01:55 <Ratchet-> I was just wanting to talk about how to Compile Armagetron...
01:55 <Ratchet-> My computer doesn't like me
01:56 <Ratchet-> It's saying theres errors with MSVS C++ AND code blocks..
01:56 <ivantis> you mean your computer is terrible windows?
01:56 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- you can get many free tools like the ones we use on linux/unix, for Windows
01:57 <Monkey_arma> www.gnu.org provide many, like the gcc compiler
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01:57 <Ratchet-> Okay so:
01:58 <Ratchet-> Get a compiler from gnu.org and try?
02:15 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- if you can get the compiler to install yes
02:15 <Ratchet-> ok
02:15 <Monkey_arma> there are many tools for Windows that are free and great
02:16 <Monkey_arma> not just gnu ones
02:16 <Monkey_arma> web browsers, paint programs, 3D modelling, sound, text editors, etc
02:17 <Monkey_arma> firefox, gimp, openoffice.org, vim are high quality examples
02:18 <Monkey_arma> oh and for IRC go to silverex.org
02:18 <Monkey_arma> that is a build/version of xchat for windows
02:18 <Monkey_arma> (IRC client)
02:19 <Flex> dude have you even used xchat on Windows? if you did, then you would know it isn't the best client for Windows
02:20 <Monkey_arma> If there is a type of program you want just ask me or others in here...we can suggest some.
02:20 <Flex> because it's not free, and limited to 30days then it locks you out.. not to even forget to mention that it's quite buggy
02:20 <Monkey_arma> flex wrong
02:20 <Monkey_arma> silverex.org is a free build
02:21 <Ratchet-> I got it from XCHAT.com
02:21 <Ratchet-> and no 30day problems displayed
02:22 <Ratchet-> LOL
02:22 <Ratchet-> not xchat.com
02:22 <Ratchet-> dont go there
02:22 <Flex> lol
02:22 <Ratchet-> by all means
02:22 <Ratchet-> its xchat.org
02:22 <hoax> idk, xchat.com looked kinda good
02:22 <Ratchet-> wow a porn site discovered on accident
02:22 <Ratchet-> nice
02:25 <Ratchet-> okay so gnu.org
02:25 <Ratchet-> is all linux stuff
02:25 <Ratchet-> I R on xp
02:27 <Monkey_arma> ratchet, they have versions for windows too
02:28 <Ratchet-> gcc.gnu.org
02:28 <Ratchet-> has windows
02:28 <Monkey_arma> http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html
02:31 <Monkey_arma> http://directory.fsf.org/
02:31 <Ratchet-> That's applications MADE with GNU,I believe..
02:33 <Ratchet-> Will this do? http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Development-Scripts-js/Compilers/GNU-Compiler-Collection-26869.html
02:37 <Monkey_arma> probably
02:37 <Monkey_arma> why is that under scripts?
02:38 <Ratchet-> idk
02:38 <Monkey_arma> that looks old
02:38 <Monkey_arma> last updated 2007
02:38 <Ratchet-> well everything else is like ver unorganized and no direct download...
02:39 <Ratchet-> very*
02:40 <Ratchet-> g++ is what i need, Right?
02:43 <Monkey_arma> ye
02:44 <Monkey_arma> one thing about the free software world, its a fucking mess
02:44 <hoop> but a funny mess
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02:45 <Ratchet-> hoop help me out lol
02:45 <Ratchet-> what compiler
02:45 <Ratchet-> you use
02:46 <hoop> g++
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02:46 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- i think its time for you to be introduced to ubunut
02:46 <Monkey_arma> er ubuntu
02:46 <Ratchet-> care to uh braden
02:46 <Ratchet-> broaden
02:46 <Ratchet-> i am 13 years old :O
02:46 <Rogue> hey ratch.
02:46 <Ratchet-> hey rogue :D
02:46 <Monkey_arma> http://www.ubuntu.com/
02:47 <Ratchet-> is that windows?
02:47 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu is the easiest linux distribution
02:47 <hoop> no monkey! XD if ratchet laerns building on windows it'll be good
02:47 <hoop> *learns
02:47 <Ratchet-> are you on windows hoop?
02:47 <Monkey_arma> behave hoop i know you are from Microsoft
02:47 <Ratchet->  /slap monkey
02:47 <hoop> who's not?
02:47 <Ratchet->  /hug hoop
02:48 <Ratchet-> :)
02:48 <hoop> no Im on ubuntu
02:48 <Monkey_arma> ratchet, epsy, ivantis and others learnt with ubuntu
02:48 <Monkey_arma> in fact ivantis is your age
02:48 <Ratchet-> i believe you can install linux on windows?
02:48 <Ratchet-> right?
02:48 <Monkey_arma> no
02:48 <Ratchet-> :\
02:48 <hoop> you can
02:48 <Monkey_arma> you can have both on the hard disk
02:48 <Ratchet-> so you expect me to buy another computer?
02:48 <Ratchet-> ha
02:48 <Monkey_arma> there is cygwin but its complicated
02:49 <Ratchet-> money dont grow on trees
02:49 <Monkey_arma> i have windows Millenium edition and also linux on my hard disk
02:49 <Monkey_arma> are you reading what i am saying?
02:49 <Ratchet-> yes
02:49 <Ratchet-> :P
02:49 <hoop> you can install linux under windows with VMware
02:49 <Monkey_arma> dont confuse him
02:49 <hoop> that's a good choice
02:49 <Ratchet-> will it push my laptop to the limit with memory etc?
02:50 <Monkey_arma> vmware will push it
02:50 <Ratchet-> what about uninstalling
02:50 <Monkey_arma> i *strongly* recommend having both on your hard disk
02:50 <Ratchet-> possible?
02:50 <Monkey_arma> you can alter the "partitions" on your hard disk
02:50 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu should help you do that
02:50 <Monkey_arma> so you split your hard disk up into 2 sections
02:51 <Monkey_arma> one for Windows, one for linux
02:51 <Monkey_arma> what computer have you got?
02:51 <xfroggy_tr> so i install beta tron...lol, after a few times of clicking 'f' windowed/full, my windowed version is completely gone from the desktop somewhere high
02:51 <Ratchet-> which one runs defaiultly
02:51 <Ratchet-> defaultly
02:51 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- you can alter that
02:51 <Monkey_arma> on mine i get a menu to choose at the start
02:52 <Ratchet-> is linux COMPLETEly different?
02:52 <xfroggy_tr> yes
02:52 <Ratchet-> will i die trying to figure it out/
02:52 <Monkey_arma> yes and no
02:52 <xfroggy_tr> yes
02:52 <Monkey_arma> the underlying is different
02:52 <Ratchet-> so if i install this
02:52 <Ratchet-> and enable
02:52 <Monkey_arma> but ubuntu will make it nice for u
02:52 <Ratchet-> and cant work it
02:52 <Ratchet-> i die
02:52 <Monkey_arma> and you can just do mostly click with mouse
02:52 <xfroggy_tr> rip Ratchet-
02:52 <Ratchet-> lol -.-
02:52 <xfroggy_tr> :D
02:52 <Ratchet-> so how much space all this take
02:52 <Ratchet-> -.-
02:52 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- they are being naughty, ignore them
02:53 <Ratchet-> i got about 25gb left :X
02:53 <Monkey_arma> i have a 20 Gig hard disk
02:53 <Monkey_arma> with windows and 2 linuxes on
02:53 <Ratchet-> 60gb total
02:53 <Ratchet-> how about you?
02:53 <Ratchet-> so your TOTAL space is 20?
02:53 <Monkey_arma> mine is 20gig total
02:53 <Monkey_arma> ye
02:53 <Ratchet-> wow..
02:53 <Ratchet-> so 60 will work
02:53 <Ratchet-> kay
02:54 <Ratchet-> k so i download linux and ubuntu?
02:54 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu is one "distribution" of linuix
02:54 <xfroggy_tr> just ubuntu
02:54 <Ratchet-> and windows will be the same, but i can enable a linux thing and have  a totally new computer
02:54 <Ratchet-> =-o
02:54 <Ratchet-> sounds like fun
02:54 <Monkey_arma> with windows you just have one type, which is called "windows"
02:54 <Ratchet-> are my programs still here or what..
02:55 <xfroggy_tr> i believe you will be left with no computer afterwords :D
02:55 <Ratchet-> =P
02:55 <Monkey_arma> there are different types of linux, called distributions
02:55 <Ratchet-> what is linux programming code
02:55 <Monkey_arma> they each come with different software (but most have the same basic stuff) and different setup
02:55 <Ratchet-> btw hoop you still here
02:56 <Monkey_arma> linux is written in C i think
02:56 <Ratchet-> so hoop has both but programs on windows ?
02:56 <Monkey_arma> no
02:56 <hoop> I've completely removed windows
02:56 <Monkey_arma> linux itself is made in C but when using linux for programming you can use any language
02:57 <Ratchet-> so therefore i can program in c++ on windows?
02:57 <hoop> sure
02:57 <Ratchet-> but another thing, microsoft makes its tools for windows
02:57 <Ratchet-> will linux take that
02:58 <Monkey_arma> linux has all the tools you could want for free
02:58 <Ratchet-> I guess my main.... er..... confusion is
02:58 <Monkey_arma> i dont use any MS tools
02:58 <Ratchet-> what good is linux over windows
02:58 <Monkey_arma> its more reliable and everything is free
02:58 <luke-jr> …
02:58 <Ratchet-> i understand windows like 100%
02:58 <luke-jr> everything?
02:58 <hoop> first It's less painful
02:59 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Windows has more than one type
02:59 <hoop> but windows doesn't understand you XD
02:59 <xfroggy_tr> windows rapes u blindly :O
02:59 <luke-jr> it has like Home, Business, Ultimate, etc
02:59 <Ratchet-> still not answering
02:59 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr ???
02:59 <Ratchet-> what are benefits to linux
02:59 <Ratchet-> ....
02:59 <Ratchet-> i r happy with windows
03:00 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: EVERYTHING
03:00 <Monkey_arma> they are the same just with more or less stuff
03:00 <luke-jr> more applications run on Linux
03:00 <luke-jr> Linux supports more hardware
03:00 <Monkey_arma> linux is *free* and *trustworthy* and does not crash much
03:00 <luke-jr> etc
03:00 <Ratchet-> ok so like i delete everything i put onto windows and get it on linux?
03:00 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- no keep windows also
03:00 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: specifically?
03:00 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: f that, get rid of Windows
03:00 <Ratchet-> so jsut leave windows like it is
03:00 <xfroggy_tr> luke-jr: :D
03:01 <Ratchet-> ugh
03:01 <hoop> Ratchet-: what you use the comp for?
03:01 <luke-jr> where is Lucifer when you feel like talking to him?
03:01 <luke-jr> sigh
03:01 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr no he needs to keep windows
03:01 <Ratchet-> msn tron internet
03:01 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: no
03:01 <xfroggy_tr> no he doesn't
03:01 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: MSN is fail sucks
03:01 <xfroggy_tr> Ratchet-: format C:\
03:01 <Ratchet-> i am not getting rid of windwos
03:01 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: the Internet is Linux, not Windows
03:01 <Monkey_arma> even my printer and scanner dont work on linux
03:01 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you got a way to contact Luci?
03:02 <hoop> if you use the comp just for that linux is far better than windows
03:02 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: that's your fault
03:02 <hoax> Ratchet-: watch out u about to make a lifestyle choice
03:02 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr i got them free...
03:02 <Ratchet-> i'd like to use windows for programming, unless linux can have the tools i want
03:02 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: what models?
03:02 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Linux supports far more printers and scanners than Windows
03:02 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- linux is made for programming
03:02 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: programming on Windows is a pain
03:02 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr Lexmark Z22 printer, visioneer 440 scanner
03:03 <hoop> Ratchet-:  linux is a better platform for programming
03:03 <Ratchet-> so everyone here uses linux?
03:03 <hoop> kinda
03:03 <luke-jr> yep
03:03 <luke-jr> lol
03:03 <Monkey_arma> <-- linux
03:03 <luke-jr> Linux or Mac
03:03 <Ratchet-> so:
03:03 <Monkey_arma> they use linux or BSD or mac (same thing really)
03:03 <luke-jr> I don't know who makes the Windows arma builds
03:03 <Ratchet-> i delete everything that is luxory on windows and get on linux?
03:03 <Monkey_arma> all are unix-like
03:03 <madmax> there's also those guys who think they're cool with OS X
03:03 <hoop> lol
03:03 <Monkey_arma> back in your box please max
03:03 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: backup and important files, like documents and stuff
03:04  * madmax falls back
03:04 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: then you can install a good OS fresh
03:04 <Monkey_arma> can we make sure the mac people are locked away securely please..thx
03:04  * Ratchet- =-o
03:04 <Ratchet-> lol
03:04 <hoop> #hug madmax
03:04 <Ratchet-> linux
03:04 <Ratchet-> is
03:04 <Ratchet-> fn
03:04 <Ratchet-> huge
03:04 <Monkey_arma> no im of course joking, mac os x is very good and is a unix
03:04 <Ratchet-> i gtg to bed in about an hour lol
03:04 <Ratchet-> 694 mb
03:04 <Ratchet-> wow
03:04 <Monkey_arma> ratchet just remember ubuntu
03:05 <Ratchet-> i am downloading it..
03:05 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: huge?
03:05 <Ratchet-> :o
03:05 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: Linux itself is only about 10 MB
03:05 <luke-jr> wtf *are* you downloading?
03:05 <Ratchet-> i r getting ubuntu
03:05 <Ratchet-> ..
03:05 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is fail
03:05 <luke-jr> if any *buntu, get Kubuntu
03:05 <Monkey_arma> ignore luke
03:05 <Ratchet-> kay
03:05 <Monkey_arma> he is noob
03:05 <Ratchet-> yea like the beta site
03:05 <Ratchet-> fuck off
03:05 <Ratchet-> :)
03:05 <Monkey_arma> kubuntu is good but for you start with ubuntu
03:05 <hoop> luke-jr: kde fan?
03:05 <luke-jr> no way
03:05 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is GNOME crap
03:05 <Monkey_arma> hoop what would you recommend ?
03:06 <Monkey_arma> for noob like ratchet
03:06 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:06 <Monkey_arma> gnome or kde?
03:06 <Ratchet-> lol
03:06 <Monkey_arma> no offence ratchet
03:06 <Ratchet-> hooooop
03:06 <Ratchet->  /slap
03:06 <luke-jr> KDE pwns GNOME in every way
03:06 <hoop> I just installed the first dvd I found XD - ubuntu
03:06 <luke-jr> hoop: 694 MB isn't DVD, it's CD
03:07 <hoop> it was a dvd :P
03:07 <luke-jr> hoop: you can "try" both without installing BW
03:07 <luke-jr> BTW*
03:07 <Ratchet-> is this the right file? ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
03:07 <luke-jr> when you reboot with the CD, it will start the new OS off the CD
03:07 <Ratchet-> 694 mb
03:07 <hoop> kate pwns indeed
03:07 <luke-jr> and you can choose to install later
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03:07 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: no
03:07 <hoop> kate & co. *
03:07 <Ratchet-> well this is the file i got on ubunutu .com
03:08 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: is your PC 32-bit or 64-bit?
03:08 <luke-jr> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
03:08 <Ratchet-> i am supposed to know how
03:08 <Ratchet-> Download URL: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
03:08 <Ratchet-> Ubuntu Edition: Ubuntu 8.04.1 desktop
03:08 <Ratchet-> Computer Platform: i386
03:08 <Ratchet-> Download Location: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/
03:08 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: what CPU?
03:08 <Ratchet-> windows xp
03:08 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr stop confusing the poor guy
03:08 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: CPU
03:08 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: Intel, AMD?
03:08 <Ratchet-> uh
03:08 <Ratchet-> intel
03:08 <Ratchet-> m
03:08 <luke-jr> Pentium M?
03:08 <Ratchet-> celeron m
03:08 <luke-jr> I think that's 32-bit
03:09 <Ratchet-> me yoo
03:09 <Ratchet-> too
03:09 <Ratchet-> :x
03:09 <Monkey_arma> ratchet just get ubuntu and ignore luke
03:09 <Ratchet-> but how big is ubuntu
03:09 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: f u
03:09 <Ratchet-> supposewd
03:09 <Ratchet-> to be
03:09 <Ratchet-> btw r the buttons and such different?
03:09 <Ratchet-> like destiny's screenshot showed
03:09 <hoop> ubuntu installs a lot of stuff you won't need, that's the matter
03:09 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr u2
03:10 <hoop> Ratchet-: you'll get used to it quikly
03:10 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- the more you learn ubuntu the more you can remove things you dont need etc
03:10 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: a f u  from luke-jr just means he loves you a lot
03:10 <hoop> XD
03:10 <Monkey_arma> he loves me???
03:10 <Monkey_arma> :0
03:10 <Monkey_arma> <3 luke
03:10 <Ratchet-> Lol
03:10 <ct|kyle> :D
03:10 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=kubuntu-kde4&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu.osuosl.org%2Freleases%2F&debug=&download-button=&flavor=kubuntu
03:11 <Monkey_arma> will he give me a server as a token of his love?
03:11 <Ratchet-> is lukes link right
03:11 <Ratchet-> :x
03:11 <Monkey_arma> ratchet just follow the ubuntu site
03:11 <Ratchet-> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-lts&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu.cs.wisc.edu%2Fpub%2Fmirrors%2Flinux%2Fubuntu%2Freleases%2F&debug=&download-button=
03:11 <Ratchet-> i got that..
03:11 <Monkey_arma> dont listen to luke
03:11 <Ratchet-> i r not
03:11 <Monkey_arma> download it
03:11 <Ratchet-> i am
03:11 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: not on the first f u maybe 3 or 4 down the line but you have to bring that up with him :P
03:11 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:11 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: ignore Monkey_arma
03:11 <Monkey_arma> ah ok so its just flirting now
03:12 <ct|kyle> ya
03:12 <Ratchet-> how old are you monkey
03:12 <luke-jr> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04.1/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
03:12 <ct|kyle> when he gets to die then the relationship starts to change
03:12 <hoop> just let Ratchet decide himself -.-
03:12 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: ok, hoop sez download both CDs, and try both!
03:12 <Ratchet-> i r like hoop & monkey
03:12 <Ratchet-> jr asshole!
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03:13 <Monkey_arma> ok its 700MB for the installer
03:13 <hoop> can i install kde on ubuntu?
03:13 <Monkey_arma> thats not much
03:13 <Ratchet-> i got 694
03:13 <Ratchet-> :x
03:13 <Monkey_arma> rougnhy 700
03:13 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z22
03:14 <Monkey_arma> yes BUT
03:14 <luke-jr> NO BUT
03:14 <Monkey_arma> the specs for the z22 were not released so the free driver has been reverse engineered
03:14 <Monkey_arma> and its only half done
03:14 <Ratchet-> hooooooooooooooooop
03:14 <luke-jr> pfft
03:14 <Monkey_arma> and as for my scanner,...
03:14 <Ratchet-> hoop
03:14 <Ratchet-> hoop
03:14 <Ratchet-> hoop
03:15 <Monkey_arma> you cant use sane
03:15 <hoop> luke-jr: can I install kde on ubuntu?
03:15 <Ratchet-> hoop halp!
03:15 <hoop> Ratchet-: I'm reading
03:15 <Ratchet-> what c++ programming tool(s) you got on yer linux
03:15 <ct|kyle> hoop: you can
03:15 <hoop> thanks
03:16 <hoop> I use kate
03:16 <ct|kyle> i think they have 4.0 (shit) and 3.5.*
03:16 <hoop> (editor)
03:16 <Ratchet-> ugh
03:16 <Ratchet-> i like microsofts program any like that?
03:16 <GodTodd> luke-jr, i might, why?
03:16 <Ratchet-> that thing is idiot proof
03:16 <Ratchet-> :\
03:16 <hoop> what program?
03:16 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: all C++ is Linux
03:16 <Ratchet-> MSVS
03:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: 4.1 is nice
03:16 <Ratchet-> Microsoft Visual Studio Express
03:16 <hoop> forget it
03:16 <Ratchet-> 2008
03:16 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: that's not C++, it's a lame joke
03:17 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:17 <hoop> kdevelop
03:17 <hoop> ^^ project manager
03:17 <Ratchet-> is there any
03:17 <Ratchet-> er
03:17 <Ratchet-> ones with "Forms" programs
03:17 <Ratchet-> and ez to design forms
03:17 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i decided not to try it, My system was trashed at the time (java was screwed up)
03:17 <hoop> there's a kdevelop project to build arma too
03:17 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: Qt Designer
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03:18 <Ratchet-> well it seems like i won't have problems getting set up with you folks :X
03:18 <hoop> Isn't gtk better than Qt?
03:18 <luke-jr> no
03:18 <luke-jr> GTK is suck
03:18 <Ratchet-> is there a linux operating sustem?
03:18 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: no
03:18 <Ratchet-> aw
03:18 <Ratchet-> so all linuxes are
03:18 <Ratchet-> on windows
03:18 <Ratchet-> ?
03:18 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: Linux is just one program that people like to name
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03:18 <Ratchet-> or from windows
03:18  * GodTodd goes back to ignoring luke-jr then.
03:18 <Ratchet-> hey hoaz
03:18 <Ratchet-> hoax
03:18 <luke-jr> there are lots of operating systems based on GNU, but with Linux included
03:19 <hoop> luke-jr: http://www.gtkmm.org/docs/gtkmm-2.4/docs/FAQ/html/index.html#id2522840
03:19 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: like Ubuntu and Kubuntu
03:19 <Ratchet-> =-o
03:19 <Ratchet-> k
03:19 <hoax> hi
03:19 <Ratchet-> so everyone here with linux
03:19 <Ratchet-> was on an origonal
03:19 <Ratchet-> windows
03:19 <Ratchet-> ?
03:19 <xfroggy_tr> no
03:19 <luke-jr> hoop: a flawed comparison
03:19 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:19 <luke-jr> hoop: Qt is not C++
03:19 <ct|kyle> xfroggy_tr: o0
03:20 <Ratchet-> i am talking about c++
03:20 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:20 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: you can write C++ too
03:20 <luke-jr> but C++ itself does not support graphical applications
03:20 <Ratchet-> ok guys i gtg take a shower
03:20 <luke-jr> Armagetron uses SDL and OpenGL for that
03:20 <Ratchet-> probably bed right after
03:20 <Ratchet-> anyways i'll leave this up and leave download going
03:21 <luke-jr> kubuntu, right?
03:21 <Ratchet-> if i leave i had to go, but i'll be back on tomorrow
03:21 <Ratchet-> afternoon
03:21 <luke-jr> wait, why is it still downloading?
03:21 <luke-jr> you should have had it in like 3 or 4 minutes..
03:21 <Ratchet-> 19% done
03:21 <Ratchet-> its hugee
03:21 <ct|kyle> i think my hard drive is going bad
03:21 <luke-jr> only a CD
03:21 <luke-jr> 700 MB
03:21 <Ratchet-> im getting it online
03:21 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:21 <luke-jr> duh
03:21 <Ratchet-> and its 694 mb downloading
03:21 <luke-jr> ok, 12 minutes or so
03:22 <Ratchet-> its got 1hour and a half left
03:22 <luke-jr> 1 MB/sec
03:22 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:22 <Ratchet-> no
03:22 <Ratchet-> 115 kb/s
03:22 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: you know you will need to burn it to a CD, right?
03:22 <luke-jr> slow
03:22 <Ratchet-> i can do that
03:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: download speeds are much slower on windows than on linux
03:22 <luke-jr> o
03:22 <hoax> whats he downloading, ubuntu?
03:22 <Ratchet-> yes
03:22 <hoax> why?
03:22 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: you know how to burn an ISO file correctly?
03:22 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: you're supposed to be downloading Kubuntu
03:22 <Ratchet-> i do
03:23 <Ratchet-> =o
03:23 <Ratchet-> its just
03:23 <hoax> dude if he doesnt know how to burn a cd why's he downloading linux
03:23 <Ratchet-> ubuntu..
03:23 <Ratchet-> i do
03:23 <luke-jr> [20:12:20] <luke-jr> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04.1/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
03:23 <Ratchet-> know how
03:23 <luke-jr> hoax: burning an ISO is not simply burning a CD
03:23 <Ratchet-> i gtg shower talk tomorrow or later
03:23 <hoax> meh
03:23 <Ratchet-> no more chatting now:
03:23 <hoop> night
03:23 <hoax> hf.
03:23 <Ratchet-> night<3
03:23 <Ratchet-> i will :p
03:23 <luke-jr> ♥
03:23 <Ratchet->  ♥
03:23 <hoop> luke-jr: how's Qt better?
03:24 <hoax> another convert eh...
03:24 <luke-jr> hoop: it's not slow as molasses, ugly, etc
03:24 <hoop> molasses = ?
03:24 <luke-jr> uh
03:24 <luke-jr> whatever is slow to you
03:25 <hoop> is there a Qt binding to c++?
03:26 <luke-jr> not really
03:26 <hoop> oh it is c++?
03:26 <luke-jr> Qt is backward compatible with C++ though
03:26 <luke-jr> like how C++ is backward compatible with C
03:27 <hoop> wait, I'm reading Qt is written in c++
03:28 <luke-jr> hoop: just like C++ is written in C
03:29 <hoop> I don't get the comparison XD
03:29 <luke-jr> Qt is to C++ as C++ is to C
03:29 <luke-jr> eg, you can technically use C code in a C++ app
03:29 <luke-jr> you can technically use C++ code in a Qt app
03:31 <hoop> I'm confused: gtk is a library, glade is its toolkit. What is Qt?
03:32 <ivantis> luke-jr: how do i do an exponent in perl?
03:32 <ivantis> is it just ^?
03:33 <luke-jr> hoop: Qt is a programming language
03:33 <hoop> :o
03:33 <ivantis> ??
03:33 <ivantis> luke-jr?
03:34 <Ratchet-> back everyone :D
03:34 <Ratchet-> hey ivantis
03:34 <ivantis> oh
03:34 <ivantis> its **
03:34 <ivantis> nvm luke
03:34 <hoop> luke-jr: can you use cairo with Qt, ore is there anything similar?
03:34 <Ratchet-> though i may not be here for long
03:34 <Ratchet-> hoop:
03:34 <Ratchet-> do you recommend I learn another language before c++?
03:34 <ivantis> yes
03:35 <Monkey_arma> i've just had a look at the gnome docs on ubuntu site ..how the fuck is that for beginners?
03:35 <hoop> yes
03:35 <Ratchet-> lol
03:35 <Ratchet-> ughhhh
03:35 <hoop> no
03:35 <Ratchet-> i learned alot of vb and c#
03:35 <Ratchet-> i get the.... uh ...... drift of programming
03:36 <Ratchet-> and i understand how it works
03:36 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:36 <Ratchet-> i learned a bit of ruby
03:36 <Ratchet-> as well
03:36 <hoop> I recommend you not to get stuck on one only language
03:36 <Ratchet-> i want to completely learn c++/C
03:36 <hoop> if c++ attracts you just dive in it
03:36 <Ratchet-> and then get something like php
03:36 <Ratchet-> It does
03:37 <Ratchet-> greatly
03:37 <Ratchet-> :p
03:37 <hoop> ;)
03:37 <Ratchet-> i hope to help you on that vector project
03:37 <Ratchet-> btw my shit c key is broke, any alternatives
03:39  * GodTodd wants a shit c key
03:39 <hoop> GodTodd: bring you keyb in bathroom
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03:40 <hoop> Ratchet-: I hope to, my proj team is open
03:41 <ivantis> luke-jr: ever do any gtk with perl?
03:41 <luke-jr> no, GTK sucks
03:41 <Ratchet-> well i cant learn c++ in a day tho :\
03:41 <ivantis> gtk is cool
03:41 <ivantis> and easy
03:41 <Ratchet-> but if its still open when i understand enough i wanta join
03:41  * ivantis is learning it right now
03:41 <luke-jr> hoop: you can use cairo, but I think Qt has something better
03:41 <hoop> ok
03:41 <ivantis> isnt Qt a windows language?
03:41 <hoop> no
03:42 <Ratchet-> hoop btw
03:42 <Ratchet-> nice hack with zones
03:42 <Ratchet-> i wante to try but
03:42 <Ratchet-> my computer r not let compile arma
03:42 <ivantis> what hack with zones?
03:42 <Ratchet-> wierd shapes
03:42 <ivantis> huh?
03:42 <ivantis> i never heard of it
03:42 <Ratchet-> hold
03:42 <hoop> ivantis: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18646&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
03:43 <hoop> duh, i linked page 2
03:43 <ivantis> sweet, odd shaped zones?
03:43 <Ratchet-> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18646
03:43 <Ratchet-> aw
03:43 <Ratchet-> beat me
03:43 <Ratchet-> to it
03:43 <hoop> luke-jr: I had Qt installed, looks sweet indeed
03:43 <Ratchet-> vn job hoopy :D
03:44 <hoop> thanks, nothing special though, it's a simple hack
03:44 <Ratchet-> =o-
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03:45 <hoop> ivantis: I'm afraid I have to agree with luke-jr with that gtk sucks
03:45 <luke-jr> Qt is cross-platform
03:45 <Ratchet-> what's gtk
03:45 <luke-jr> I can build an EXE without touching Windows ;)
03:45 <Monkey_arma> i just looked at ubuntu docs...hrm...that is for beginners to computing?
03:45 <hoop> Ratchet-: a C library to create GUI apps
03:46 <Ratchet-> o
03:46 <hoop> I'm using that for vectron
03:47 <hoop> luke-jr: I wish I knew that before
03:47 <Monkey_arma> ratchet a programming 'library' contains things that you can use that other people have made
03:48 <luke-jr> hoop: ?
03:48 <Ratchet-> i kno
03:48 <Ratchet-> monkey
03:48 <Ratchet-> :p
03:48 <hoop> luke-jr: I wish I knew Qt before beginning to learn gtk
03:49 <ivantis> gtk rules
03:49 <hoop> Ratchet-: you asked for help, now you won't get rid of Monkey easily XD
03:49 <ivantis> shut up
03:49 <ivantis> luke-jr: why do you think it sucks?
03:49 <Ratchet-> im glad hes willing to help :)
03:49  * hoop 's kidding
03:49 <Ratchet-> lol
03:50  * Ratchet- =-o
03:50 <Monkey_arma> hey most 13 year olds dont know what a programming library is
03:51 <Monkey_arma> looking at ubuntu site i thought it would be all point and click and easy for beginners. its not...it seems to be for computer geeks like other linuxes
03:51 <luke-jr> ivantis: it's slow and ugly
03:51 <luke-jr> ivantis: and poorly designed
03:51 <ivantis> youre slow and ugly
03:51 <luke-jr> /ignore ivantis
03:52 <hoop> ivantis: did you try alternatives?
03:52 <ivantis> most 13 year olds dont know what a programming library is, pshaw
03:52 <ivantis> hoop: just this morning you told me to learn gtk!
03:52 <hoop> then?
03:53 <Monkey_arma>  pshaw?
03:53 <ivantis> you heard me
03:54 <Monkey_arma> what is pshaw?
03:54 <hoop> you won't lose time learning something
03:54 <hoop> I guess pshaw = -.-
03:54 <Ratchet-> pshaw
03:54 <Ratchet-> is like
03:54 <Ratchet-> Pffff
03:54 <Ratchet-> in disbelieve i believe would fit
03:54 <Monkey_arma> well for any non computer geeks reading this i have now come to  decision.....get a mac!
03:55 <Ratchet-> -.-
03:55 <hoop> <most 13 year olds dont know what a programming library is> is just the truth
03:55 <Monkey_arma> yes madmax you heard me right...a mac!
03:55 <Ratchet-> most 13 year olds
03:55 <Ratchet-> dont know how to open paint on their computer
03:55 <madmax> what is this mac you speak of?
03:55 <hoop> indeed most people in the world don't know what a library is
03:55 <Ratchet-> most 13 year olds would look at you stupidly if you mentioned programming
03:56 <Monkey_arma> i am recommending macs to non computer geeks over linux
03:56 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: fail
03:56 <luke-jr> anyhow, Qt apps work on Mac too
03:56 <Monkey_arma> os x can be easy or hard ...depending on what you like
03:56 <Monkey_arma> and im a linux user
03:56 <Monkey_arma> so im not biased
03:57 <hoop> luke-jr: I can build an EXE without touching Windows > how??
03:57 <Monkey_arma> but i do hate linux in some ways
03:57 <Ratchet-> Luke Jr
03:57 <Ratchet-> tell your dev mates to get the boot out their ass and finish
03:57 <Ratchet-> i'm ancious
03:57 <Ratchet-> =p
03:57 <Ratchet-> anxious*
03:57 <ivantis> hoop: wine probly
03:57 <luke-jr> hoop: qmake -spec win32-mingw32 && make
03:57 <Monkey_arma> ratchet wine is a program for linux that can run many windows programs
03:57 <Ratchet-> =-o
03:58 <Ratchet-> i wont need that
03:58 <ivantis> luke-jr: you can do that?
03:58 <Ratchet-> i'm keeping windows too
03:58 <luke-jr> ivantis: sure can
03:58 <ivantis> so i could compile windows programs on my linux to send to windows users?
03:58 <luke-jr> yep
03:58 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- you seem computery enough to be fit for linux
03:58 <hoop> luke-jr: you need mingw installed?
03:58 <ivantis> thweet
03:58 <Ratchet-> hope so
03:58 <luke-jr> hoop: of course
03:58 <Ratchet-> is there anything for linux that runs msn
03:59 <luke-jr> MSN sucks
03:59 <Ratchet-> o.o
03:59 <hoop> Ratchet-: pidgin
03:59 <Ratchet-> but i have many people that's my only communication with them
03:59 <luke-jr> hoop: Kopete
03:59 <hoop> whatever
03:59 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: so use Kopete
03:59 <Ratchet-> first i gotta get linux
03:59 <Ratchet-> but anyways
03:59 <luke-jr> or tell them to use a standards-compliant IM
03:59 <Ratchet-> goodnight folks
04:00 <hoop> night 2
04:00 <Ratchet-> I will be leaving download going
04:00 <Ratchet-> but getting off this
04:00 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: just make sure it's kubuntu
04:00 <Ratchet-> I might have homework since i missed a few days of school ast week
04:00 <luke-jr> hoop: [ebuild     U ] cross-mingw32/mingw-runtime-3.15 [3.14] 0 kB ⚀
04:00 <Ratchet-> last*
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04:02 <hoop> luke-jr: what's that?
04:06 <Flex> why kubuntu, luke-jr? what's so bad about unbuntu..
04:07 <luke-jr> GNOME
04:07 <Flex> so?
04:07 <luke-jr> hoop: mingw
04:07 <luke-jr> Flex: so it sucks
04:07 <Flex> no it don't
04:07 <luke-jr> f u'
04:07 <Flex> no u
04:08 <Flex> it's better for him to go with ubuntu due to the extra assistance
04:09 <hoop> luke-jr: what would you use with qt as I use cairo with gtk?
04:10 <luke-jr> the terms "QPainter" and "Arthur" come up
04:10 <hoop> ok thanks for precious infos luke-jr
04:13 <hoop> lol glade is a dumb kid compared to qt designer
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14:27 <ivantis> why recommend Kubuntu to Ratchet??
14:28 <ivantis> luke-jr: KDE isnt better than gnome
14:28 <ivantis> just face it
14:33 <ivantis> #mail
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15:01 <Monkey_arma> wb armabot!
15:02 <Monkey_arma> <3
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15:27 <hoop> can I burn a cd ISO to a dvd?
15:28 <hoax> yeah
15:28 <hoax> hmm...
15:28 <hoax> #tea
15:28 <armabot> hoax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
15:28 <hoop> I mean a booting cd, will it work?
15:28 <hoax> aw
15:28 <hoax> aye
15:29 <hoop> suresuresure?
15:29 <hoax> i burn distros to dvds all the time
15:29 <hoax> when they cd isos
15:29 <hoop> ok =)
15:29 <hoop> f u
15:29 <hoax> np :P
15:30 <hoax> hoop what u burning
15:30 <hoax> anythin interesting
15:31 <hoop> shh... kubuntu
15:31 <hoax> ew :|
15:32 <hoop> well, qt pwns gtk so I want to try kde
15:32 <hoax> StickyNoob's on kubuntu
15:32 <StickyNoob> yo
15:32 <hoop> yos
15:33 <hoop> hoax, shall I invite him for a tea?
15:33 <hoax> sure :D
15:33 <luke-jr> ivantis: not my fault if you're too stupid
15:33 <hoop> hmm, where u live StickyNoob
15:33 <StickyNoob> i stopped burning to cds after i actualy stacked up all the old distro cds up and realised how many ive wasted
15:34 <StickyNoob> hoop: england
15:34 <hoop> hmmm, too far I'm sorry X)
15:34 <StickyNoob> then i learnt how to install from a partition
15:34 <luke-jr> I'd rather waste CDs than DVDs ;p
15:34 <hoop> yea, I hate burning cds
15:35 <hoop> luke-jr, I have no cds atm :P
15:35 <hoax> -R anyone?..^^
15:35 <luke-jr> these days, I just get Ubuntu to ship me printed Kubuntu CDs
15:35 <StickyNoob> hoop: does the computer already have a distro installed on it?
15:35 <hoop> ubuntu
15:35 <StickyNoob> install from a partiton then
15:35 <luke-jr> hoop: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
15:36 <hoop> i was wondering if I could just install kde too
15:36 <hoop> ^^
15:36 <StickyNoob> yes you can
15:36 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: you a kubuntu man?
15:36 <hoop> will it ptrompt me at start?
15:36 <luke-jr> no
15:36 <luke-jr> *buntu doesn't support any of my hardware
15:36 <luke-jr> crappy stuff :þ
15:36 <luke-jr> hoop: probably will add it to the login screen's menu or such
15:36 <StickyNoob> aww
15:36 <hoop> too old hardware? :P
15:37 <luke-jr> hoop: not really, *buntu just has really crappy hardware support
15:37 <StickyNoob> kubuntu works great for me
15:37 <StickyNoob> they use a reasonably recent kernel dont they?
15:37 <luke-jr> I've never found a single system *buntu worked properly on
15:37 <hoop> you're not nerd enough then XD
15:37 <luke-jr> the closest I found was one where only wifi was broken
15:38 <hoop> what you on luke-jr ?
15:38 <luke-jr> Gentoo
15:38 <StickyNoob> RICER
15:38 <hoop> baaah that sucks
15:38 <luke-jr> *buntu sucks too
15:38 <luke-jr> just in different ways ;p
15:38 <luke-jr> every OS sucks
15:38 <StickyNoob> yeah ubuntu has its problems
15:38 <hoop> jk, I don't even farly know gentoo
15:39 <luke-jr> hoop: Gentoo is high maintenance
15:39 <luke-jr> you MUST keep it up to date
15:39 <luke-jr> and doing so often requires manual fixing of problems
15:39 <StickyNoob> hoop: its a lot more "hands on" than things like ubuntu, suse, mandrake
15:39 <hoop> how about debian?
15:39 <StickyNoob> debian is ubuntu
15:39 <luke-jr> Debian is basically *buntu, but you don't need to be an idiot
15:40 <StickyNoob> actualy ill rephrase that
15:40 <luke-jr> lol
15:40 <hoop> fedora?
15:40 <StickyNoob> ubuntu is debian
15:40 <luke-jr> Fedora is a waste of time
15:40 <hoop> ^^
15:40 <luke-jr> bbl
15:41 <hoop> so, I guess you download an ISO, create a partition, put the ISO in there and launch it?
15:41 <StickyNoob> ubuntu take 99.9% of debian then add some nicetys for the less l33t users
15:41 <StickyNoob> hoop: yes, you have to point grub at it
15:41 <hoax> just get ubuntu
15:42 <hoop> already
15:42 <hoax> you can even load it from your windows partition these days
15:42 <hoop> I don't like it so much, but I don't want to care about maintenance
15:42 <hoax> since when did it read ntfs :o
15:42 <hoax> hoop you used linux before?
15:43 <hoop> for like 3 years
15:45 <hoax> lol, wtf then
15:46 <hoop> wtf is a CTCP VERSION?
15:46 <hoop> hoax, I was asking about installin kubuntu, not linux :P
15:47 <hoax> oh alright
15:48 <hoax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTCP :>
15:48 <hoop> <3
15:48 <hoax> :D
15:49 <hoop> hoax,  why I'm receiving that from you?
15:50 <hoop> ah, ok
15:50 <hoop> do you own business then
15:50 <hoax> lol?
15:50 <hoop> #hug hoax
15:51  * hoax slaps hoop around a bit with a large trout
15:52  * hoop cries but likes the trout
15:52 <hoax> xD
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18:25 <Monkey_arma> what idiot decided to let dreadlord try out for CT?
18:26 <epsy> oh you wanted him in your clan?
18:27 <Monkey_arma> hehe
18:27 <Monkey_arma> damn you got me
18:27 <Monkey_arma> i wanted dreadlord
18:27 <epsy> ah, tell us about your clan
18:28 <Monkey_arma> its a clan for fucking idiots
18:28 <Monkey_arma> i was gonna get ady but CT got him too
18:29 <Monkey_arma> i think they are spying on my plans and taking the players before i can
18:29 <epsy> oh, so you have a spy in your team?
18:30 <Monkey_arma> maybe hmm
18:30  * Monkey_arma thinks
18:30 <epsy> Monkey_arma reveals to be a spy of himself :O
18:31 <Monkey_arma> oO
18:31 <Monkey_arma> omg i am telling ct my plans behind my back
18:31 <Monkey_arma> i knew i couldnt trust myself
18:34 <hoax> what's he done?
18:34 <epsy> hax
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18:35 <epsy> 'lu aa_voodoo
18:35 <aa_voodoo> salut epsy ;)
18:37 <aa_voodoo> epsy, have you noticed that the sty branch is all shuffled ? :(
18:38 <epsy> what do you mean?
18:39 <aa_voodoo> previous revision are out of order ...
18:39 <aa_voodoo> revisions
18:39 <epsy> out of order?
18:40 <epsy> we can shop revisions now? :o
18:40 <aa_voodoo> :) yeah I mean all shuffled ... they are not in the same order anymore
18:41 <epsy> what are you trying to do?
18:41 <aa_voodoo> I was looking to merge last sty branche revisions to sty+ct but it's really tricky now
18:42 <epsy> erm, changes happened on the 0.2.8 branch, you should merge them directly from there
18:45 <aa_voodoo> Well, I had to branch from sty to get the sty patch ... Now the point is that I have no idea which revision was the last we get from the sty branch as the only thing I had is a revesion n° from sty and they are not the same anymore ..
18:47 <aa_voodoo> I guess that's the shuffling issue zman talked about when he's tested bzr
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18:47 <epsy> you can still merge from 0.2.8 (now i think rebase might be better for your tasks)
18:47 <epsy> aa_voodoo, did you try a bzr pull?
18:48 <aa_voodoo> no, let me check this command ...
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20:36 <luke-jr> zThread seems to be unmaintained
20:36 <luke-jr> last release in 2005
20:36 <luke-jr> -.-
20:37 <luke-jr> so time to port to standard pthreads
20:38 <hoop> luke-jr, why you don't install zthread in your servers?
20:39 <luke-jr> hoop: because Debian doesn't support it
20:41 <hoop> I've tried kde, with a res higher than 1024*768 it does weird pixels on bottom :S
20:42 <luke-jr> relogin
20:42 <luke-jr> 4.1 still has bugs
20:42 <hoop> it seems radeon 9200 isn't installed by default, may be that?
20:42 <hoop> i think it's 3.5
20:42 <hoop> I intalled kubuntu-desktop
20:45 <luke-jr> …
20:45 <luke-jr> wtf do you even mean?
20:45 <luke-jr> KDE doesn't do anything with video cards directly
20:45 <hoop> but I'll try again later. I didn't notice anything special though, perhaps kubuntu-desk is not the best way to use kde
20:45 <hoop> 3.5.10
20:47 <Ttech> ah
20:47 <Ttech> dk342j I
20:47 <Ttech> 2 i2 ashf aoias dji
20:47 <Ttech> anhoirq2 9j
20:47 <Ttech> damn oops
20:47 <Ttech> hoop, KDE 4 is in the Ubuntu Reops
20:48 <hoop> I don't know really, the monitor config doesn't display 9200 drivers
20:48 <hoop> on gnome I haven't such problem
20:49 <Monkey_arma> <-- has ATI Radeon 9200
20:50 <hoop> Ttech, I installed kdesktop though, bad choice?
20:50 <Ttech> 0.o
20:50 <Ttech> kubuntu should have kde4
20:50 <hoop> i'm running ubuntu
20:51 <Ttech> mmmm
20:51 <Ttech> that's why
20:51 <Ttech> Kbutnu has the latest
20:51 <Ttech> (odd something) lol
20:51 <luke-jr> hoop: what monitor config?
20:51 <luke-jr> that doesn't exist in KDE 3.5 AFAIK
20:51 <luke-jr> also
20:51 <luke-jr> 9200 is a video card
20:51 <luke-jr> not a monitor
20:53 <hoop> I mean monitor configuration, where you set the resolution
20:54 <hoop> there is a button to enter card driver settings, well I switched back to gnome now so I can't tell exactly
20:55 <luke-jr> has nothing ot do with video card
20:55 <hoop> should I install the kde package too?
20:56 <luke-jr> …
20:57 <hoop> ok lol, forgive the noob
20:58 <hoop> eek, it's gonna use 481 Mb does it make sense?
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21:00 <Monkey_arma> my sound setup is fucked
21:00 <hoop> mine too
21:01 <hoop> solution: pwer off the speakers
21:02 <Monkey_arma> no its not that
21:02 <Monkey_arma> ive fixed it now
21:02 <Monkey_arma> bloody alsa
21:02  * Monkey_arma is actually listening to music!
21:03 <Monkey_arma> Free house and techno <3
21:03 <hoop> that's why it was fucked
21:05 <epsy>  \o/
21:05 <Monkey_arma> heh i've found a bug in audacious
21:05 <Monkey_arma> ffs
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21:06 <Monkey_arma> (audacious:10090): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
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21:20 <luke-jr> so who wants to test pthread armathentication?
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21:33 <luke-jr> oh well, it's in 0.2.8 branch
21:33 <luke-jr> please test
21:36 <Monkey_arma> http://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu.html
21:37 <Monkey_arma> see, you dont need flash for videos!
21:37 <Monkey_arma> tell 'em luke
21:40 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r885 pthread support for armathentication; someone please test
21:41 <epsy> luke-jr, 0.2.8 was *supposed* to be stable
21:41 <epsy> :P :)
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21:50 <epsy> luke-jr, it failed telling me that pthreads wasn't installed on my comp
21:50 <epsy> checking
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21:55 <epsy> and indeed, pth isn't installed
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22:01 <epsy> you got the l33t irc-pen!
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22:13 <epsy> luke-jr, http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/d7cfaafc3
22:13 <epsy> --enable-dedicated --enable-authentication
22:16 <epsy> $ find `pth-config --includedir`/ -name pth*
22:16 <epsy> /usr/include/pthread.h
22:16 <epsy> /usr/include/pth.h
22:16 <epsy> /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h
22:23  * ivantis got out of P.E. 13 minutes ago
22:24 <ivantis> how is 16 seconds for the 40 meter dash?
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23:11 <madmax> n9?
23:12 <hoop> who knows knoppix_
23:12 <hoop> I`ve messed up my ubuntu, can`t even login now :(
23:12 <Ttech> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot me
23:13 <hoop> can I modify files using a livecd?
23:13 <Lucifer_pen> !math calc 40/16
23:13 <ivantis> hoop: how did you mess it up?
23:13 <Lucifer_pen> is there a bot here that can do math?
23:13 <ivantis> hoop: no, you cant
23:13 <Lucifer_pen> #math calc 40/16
23:13 <armabot> Lucifer_pen: 2.5
23:13 <ivantis> lucifer: teabot can, @calc
23:13  * Lucifer_pen didn't notice armabot was back
23:14 <Lucifer_pen> so you averages 2.5 m/s on your run
23:14 <ivantis> i guess
23:14 <ivantis> i walked it
23:14 <hoop> ivantis, are you sure?
23:14 <Lucifer_pen> heh, I was gonna say that sounded like a fast walk :)
23:14 <ivantis> hoop: pretty sure
23:15 <ivantis> how is it messed up?
23:15 <ivantis> whats happening? i run ubuntu
23:15 <hoop> cannot login
23:15 <ivantis> hmm
23:15 <ivantis> what does it do?
23:15 <hoop> i installed kde
23:15  * Lucifer_pen is thinking about getting a haircut
23:15 <ivantis> say wrong password?
23:15  * Lucifer_pen wants to make sure he really wants it, and isn't just doing it to make his wife mad
23:16 <ivantis> hoop, are you good with a shell prompt?
23:16 <ivantis> and what are you using now?
23:16 <hoop> I cant even use it
23:16 <hoop> a livecd
23:16 <ivantis> do you have another computer in the house?
23:16 <hoop> It won`t let me login, it just crashes
23:16 <ivantis> do you have another computer in the house?
23:16 <hoop> for what?
23:16 <ivantis> SSH
23:17 <ivantis> ill walk you through it
23:17 <hoop> how can I ssh if this comp is off
23:17 <ivantis> dont turn it off
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23:17 <ivantis> reboot with the live cd out
23:17 <ivantis> and get on another computer
23:17 <hoop> ivantis, open your ears
23:17 <ivantis> oh, it just crashes on startup?
23:17 <hoop> yes
23:18 <ivantis> is it under a firewall?
23:18 <hoop> it whines about it can`t find my graph card drivers
23:18 <hoop> and tries to boot with low res
23:18 <ivantis> is it under an internet firewall?
23:18 <hoop> then i just get a black screen and nothing happens
23:18 <ivantis> uh
23:19 <ivantis> okay, while its booting in "low res", do the key combo Ctrl+Alt+F1
23:19 <ivantis> it will take you to a non-GUI login
23:19 <hoop> ah right
23:19 <ivantis> after you login to that, you get a shell prompt
23:19 <ivantis> you can use a shell right?
23:19 <hoop> ye
23:20 <hoop> I just suck with vim XD
23:20  * ivantis hates vim
23:20 <ivantis> use nano
23:20 <hoop> ok Im gonna try
23:20 <hoop> thanks
23:20 <ivantis> wait
23:20 <ivantis> ircii to talk if you need help
23:21 <hoop> ircii_
23:21 <ivantis> or irssi
23:21 <hoop> me hopes it works
23:21 <hoop> bbl
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23:37 <epsy> ivantis, of course he can edit files from a livecd >.<
23:37 <epsy> meh
23:37 <ivantis> really?
23:37 <epsy> of course
23:37 <ivantis> no he meant ones already on the disc
23:37 <ivantis> livecds dont touch the hard disc
23:37 <epsy> except if you tell it to
23:38 <epsy> It IS possible to edit files from a livecd! JUST EDIT THEM!
23:38 <ivantis> oh
23:38 <ivantis> well
23:38 <ivantis> too bad for him
23:38 <epsy> you just have to mount the proper devices
23:39 <ivantis> aha
23:39 <ivantis> they are located in /dev on a livecd install?
23:39 <epsy> they are ALWAYS located in dev, as soon as you have proper hdd drivers
23:39 <epsy> as long*
23:43 <epsy> gnite
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23:44 <Ratchet-> Back
23:44 <Ratchet-> hoooooooooopppppppppp
23:44 <Ratchet-> monkeeeeeeeeyyyyyyy
23:44 <Ratchet-> I burned the program onto a CD Rom
23:45 <Ratchet-> Now Installing
23:45 <Ratchet-> :X
23:45 <PinkTomato> is this ubuntu?
23:45 <Ratchet-> Yes
23:45 <PinkTomato> you check the partitioning :)?
23:45 <Ratchet-> Pardon?
23:46 <ivantis> this could be interesting
23:46 <PinkTomato> well you don't want to wipe the hard drive...
23:46 <ivantis> yes you do
23:46 <ivantis> because windows sucks
23:46 <ivantis> shut up
23:46 <Ratchet-> No no no, It said I can install it in a partion and Boot either one.
23:46 <Ratchet-> Which drive, C: Right?
23:46 <Ratchet-> It's aslomg
23:46 <PinkTomato> ah yr installing within Windows?
23:46 <Ratchet-> Asking*
23:46 <Ratchet-> Ya
23:47 <PinkTomato> so you put the disc in while windows was running?
23:47 <Ratchet-> Ivantis?
23:47 <Ratchet-> Yes
23:47 <PinkTomato> I've never installed it that wa
23:47 <PinkTomato> y
23:47 <Ratchet-> I have to
23:47 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:47 <ivantis> yes?
23:47 <Ratchet-> Installation size
23:47 <Ratchet-> Does that matter
23:47 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:47 <ivantis> you put the disc in while windows was running?
23:47 <ivantis> tisk tisk
23:47 <Ratchet-> To install it.....
23:47 <Ratchet-> It's running install program
23:47 <ivantis> no
23:47 <Ratchet-> theres no other way
23:47 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:48 <PinkTomato> It's a boot disc
23:48 <ivantis> put it in, then reboot
23:48 <PinkTomato> You can do that
23:48 <Ratchet-> motherfuckers
23:48 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:48 <Ratchet-> if this dont work someones getting raped
23:48 <Ratchet-> thats a promise
23:48 <PinkTomato> but the windows install method will work
23:48 <Ratchet-> there is nothing wrong with this
23:48 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:49 <Ratchet-> What installation size should i use
23:49 <PinkTomato> probably best to use windows installer, no need to edit the partition table
23:49 <Ratchet-> 28 Gb Free
23:49 <PinkTomato> well how big do you want?
23:49 <Ratchet-> ?!?!?!?!
23:49 <Ratchet-> I don't even know what the hell Ubuntu is.
23:49 <Ratchet-> Everyone just made me install it insisting windows sucks -.-
23:50 <PinkTomato> Ubuntu is an operating system
23:50 <Ratchet-> I gathered as much
23:50 <Ratchet-> What size would you recommend
23:50 <PinkTomato> well depends how much you'll use it
23:50 <PinkTomato> maybe 4GB
23:50 <Ratchet-> Probably alot
23:50 <PinkTomato> possible 5
23:51 <Ratchet-> I'll go with 8 for now
23:51 <PinkTomato> be wary of the words partition and format
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23:51 <Ratchet-> Hoop!
23:51 <hoop> hi!
23:51 <Ratchet-> I R installing!
23:52 <Ttech> I R heh
23:52 <Ratchet-> :O
23:52 <hoop> the ubuntu?
23:52 <Ratchet-> Ofcourse!
23:52 <hoop> teh*
23:52 <PinkTomato> hoop you get X working?
23:52  * Ttech hands hoop a Ubluntu to smoke
23:52 <Ttech> :)
23:52 <Ratchet-> I used 8 GB size.
23:52  * hoop join it
23:52 <Ratchet-> Is that good?
23:52 <hoop> no
23:52 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:52 <hoop> jk
23:52 <hoop> whats you hd space?
23:53 <Ratchet-> 28gb
23:53 <hoop> PinkTomato, X?
23:53 <Ratchet-> 60 total
23:53 <PinkTomato> Ah I meant Graphics hoop :)
23:53 <hoop> I've started launchpad project
23:54 <Ratchet-> my computer is vibrating uncontrollably
23:54 <Ratchet-> making me horny :X
23:54 <Ratchet-> lol jk
23:54 <hoop> I'm afraid I'll need to rewrite everything
23:54 <Ratchet-> =-o
23:54 <Ratchet-> :|
23:54 <Ratchet-> y
23:54 <hoop> I'd like to use Qt instead of gtk
23:55 <Ratchet-> :x
23:55 <hoop> ivantis, thanks for help, I don't know how but it's solved XD
23:55 <ivantis> cool
23:55 <Ratchet-> what was the prawblem?
23:55 <hoop> I couldn't start the OS
23:55 <Ratchet-> which'n
23:55 <PinkTomato> Just by installing KDE?
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23:56 <hoop> ubuntu, I installed kde and messed up everything, my fault probably
23:56 <PinkTomato> it shouldn't do really :)
23:56 <Ratchet-> nooooooob!
23:56 <Ratchet-> ubuntu best be good
23:56 <Ratchet-> -.-
23:56 <Ratchet-> pink you got ubuntu?
23:56 <Ratchet-> and r linux
23:56 <Ratchet-> or*
23:56 <PinkTomato> I use ubuntu
23:57 <Ratchet-> is it better than windows
23:57 <Ratchet-> :x
23:57 <PinkTomato> They both have their uses
23:57 <Ratchet-> are graphics different?
23:57 <hoop> Ratchet-, you installed it yet?
23:57 <Ratchet-> 32%
23:57 <Ratchet-> and wow this installs fast
23:57 <hoop> how do u chat then? another comp?
23:57 <Ratchet-> 1mb sec
23:57 <Ratchet-> nope
23:58 <PinkTomato> hoop, using wubi, install within windows
23:58 <hoop> :o
23:58 <Ratchet-> i will get lost in that black and white crap
23:58 <Ratchet-> and i will be doomed
23:58 <PinkTomato> Ratchet- you use a router for the internet?
23:58 <Ratchet-> i do
23:58 <PinkTomato> that's good, USB internet modems are basically a pain to install
23:59 <Ratchet-> =x
23:59 <Ratchet-> its not already installed? :X
23:59 <Ratchet-> i might have troubles then cuz i don't remember how to set up internet lawl
23:59 <Ratchet-> only the search routers and put in key
23:59 <Ratchet-> is that all ? :X
23:59 <PinkTomato> It should automatically work if it's on a router
23:59 <Ratchet-> kk
23:59 <Ratchet-> 98%
23:59 <PinkTomato> oh wait, connecting wirelessly?

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00:00 <Ratchet-> yep
00:00 <Ratchet-> i r laptop
00:00 <PinkTomato> whats the wireless card?
00:00 <Ratchet-> its built in?
00:00 <Ratchet-> ok i r rebooting
00:00 <Ratchet-> if i make it back
00:00 <PinkTomato> well
00:00 <Ratchet-> you will know i lived
00:00 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet- you want more than 8 GB to be safe
00:00 <Ratchet-> -.-
00:01 <Monkey_arma> also you may need a swap partition
00:01 <Ratchet-> bit late now
00:01 <Monkey_arma> never mind
00:01 <PinkTomato> Ratchet- you can change it later
00:01 <PinkTomato> surely
00:01 <Ratchet-> k
00:01 <PinkTomato> not sure how
00:01 <Ratchet-> =\
00:01 <Ratchet-> that helps
00:01 <Ratchet-> brb anyways
00:01 <PinkTomato> something like dd will do it
00:01 <Ratchet-> rebooting
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00:01 <PinkTomato> use Pidgin or xchat for IRC
00:01 <Ratchet-> i will use all the brainpowerz i r got
00:01 <Ratchet-> k
00:01 <PinkTomato> :)
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00:03 <hoop> how u doin pink
00:03 <PinkTomato> i'm fine :)
00:04 <ivantis> hoop: in gtkmm, how do you set a windows title?
00:06 <PinkTomato> hoop: why you switching to Qt ?
00:06 <PinkTomato> hoop: Is it easier?
00:08 <hoop> ivantis, window->set_title( "dweoijweodij" );
00:08 <ivantis> uh
00:09 <hoop> PinkTomato, more powerful
00:09 <PinkTomato> you need more power then :D?
00:09 <hoop> lol
00:09 <PinkTomato> hopefully it's not harder :D
00:09 <PinkTomato> Does Qt run on windows?
00:10 <hoop> yes
00:11 <PinkTomato> ah that's OK then :), you said yr started a project page on launchpad??
00:11 <hoop> luke-jr convinced me saying you can build a Qt app for windows without even touchin windows
00:11 <PinkTomato> :D
00:11 <PinkTomato> nice
00:12 <hoop> I tried using Qt designer, there's no comparison with Glade
00:13 <hoop> ivantis, everything you need is here http://www.gtkmm.org/documentation.shtml
00:13 <ivantis> k
00:17 <PinkTomato> byebye :)
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00:38 <Ratchet-> -.-
00:38 <Ratchet-> its
00:38 <Ratchet-> not
00:38 <Ratchet-> working
00:38 <Ratchet-> it wont connect to internet
00:39 <Ratchet-> other than that its fine
00:39 <ivantis> you obviously dont have the network settings set up right
00:39 <Ratchet-> i obviously dont know wtf im doing
00:39 <Ratchet-> it just asks for a name..
00:39 <ivantis> it just asks for a name? what does?
00:40 <Ratchet-> I click the computer symbolizing internet in the top right
00:40 <Ratchet-> And you can Add a connection, Connect to other
00:40 <Ratchet-> ETC
00:40 <Ratchet-> I try to add one but it says name and security....
00:41 <Ratchet-> -.-
00:41 <ivantis> are you using wireless?
00:41 <Ratchet-> yes....
00:41 <ivantis> could you plug it into an ethernet cable?
00:41 <Ratchet-> -.--
00:41 <Ratchet-> i doubt it...
00:41 <Ratchet-> what for
00:42 <ivantis> wait
00:42 <Ratchet-> i can plug it into the modem....
00:42 <ivantis> you type in the name of your wireless network
00:42 <Ratchet-> with the cable i use for xbox live
00:42 <Ratchet-> It's home... I think
00:42 <Ratchet-> i tried that.
00:42 <ivantis> and then the security thing
00:42 <ivantis> the passcode
00:42 <Ratchet-> Idk the security thing
00:42 <ivantis> wait a minute
00:42 <Ratchet-> it dont have tht
00:42 <Ratchet-> its like
00:42 <ivantis> nvm
00:42 <Ratchet-> WPN2
00:42 <Ratchet-> etc
00:42 <ivantis> wireless does not work on ubuntu
00:43 <Ratchet-> wtf
00:43 <ivantis> (stabaly)
00:43 <Ratchet-> -.-
00:43 <Ratchet-> so then its pointles
00:43 <ivantis> you need to get a driver for your card
00:43 <Ratchet-> because i am on laptop
00:43 <ivantis> you need to get a driver for your card
00:43 <Ratchet-> ..
00:43 <ivantis> then you can use wireless
00:43 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_pen: after all my work installing ies4linux, My math Lab now works in Firefox :)
00:43 <Ratchet-> what do you mean
00:43 <ivantis> but you need to connect it to the internet first
00:43 <ivantis> ill talk you through it
00:43 <Ratchet-> a driver for my card?
00:44 <ivantis> yes
00:44 <Ratchet-> does this include buying something?
00:44 <ivantis> your wireless card
00:44 <ivantis> no
00:44 <Ratchet-> mk
00:44 <Ratchet-> i will try and do it
00:44 <ivantis> everything is free in the world of linux
00:45 <Ratchet-> like tell me what to do.... i have to remember it and do it
00:45 <ivantis> just plug your ubuntu into an ethernet cable
00:45 <Ratchet-> I DONT KNOW WHICH THAT IS >.<
00:45 <ivantis> on the internet
00:45 <Ratchet-> I can plug it into the xbox live cord......
00:45 <ivantis> the one that connects to your modem/router
00:45 <Ratchet-> which connects to modem
00:46 <ivantis> yes that thing
00:46 <Ratchet-> kk
00:46 <Ratchet-> and then do what
00:46 <ivantis> see if the net works now
00:47 <Ratchet-> will it take long
00:47 <ivantis> no
00:47 <Ratchet-> because i am stealing internet from my brother
00:47 <Ratchet-> mk
00:47 <ivantis> open firefox to see if it works
00:47 <ivantis> wait
00:47 <ivantis> yes it will take long
00:47 <ivantis> your brother will have to wait
00:47 <Ratchet-> lol
00:47 <Ratchet-> it will work
00:48 <Ratchet-> now what
00:48 <Ratchet-> i prefer many directions fast
00:48 <Ratchet-> -.-
00:48 <Ratchet-> ............
00:48 <ivantis> uh
00:49 <ivantis> well
00:49 <ivantis> check what wireless card you have
00:49 <Ratchet-> howww.
00:49 <ivantis> open your computer and see
00:49 <Ratchet-> all i got is the wireless on off button
00:49 <ivantis> jk
00:49 <ivantis> well
00:49 <ivantis> i really dont know that
00:49 <ivantis> then**
00:50 <ivantis> join #ubuntu and ask around (type /join #ubuntu)
00:51 <hoop> Ratchet-, are you on windows now?
00:51 <madmax> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
00:52 <madmax> it says how to check which one you have there (and how to make it work)
00:56 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: ivantis is stupid
00:56 <luke-jr> Ratchet-: get it running wired and I'll help you switch to wireless
00:59 <Ratchet-> Ok
01:00 <Ratchet-> I got a bit of help there
01:00 <Ratchet-> my Wifi is Broadcom
01:00 <Ratchet-> i got myself banned by telling someone to suck it after they were complaining about my request about swapping from windows to linux
01:00 <Ratchet-> -.-
01:00 <Ratchet-> ok so go to ubuntu wired?
01:00 <Ratchet-> Yes  i r on windows
01:01 <Ratchet-> and i am swapping so brb
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01:05 <Ratchet-> omh
01:05 <Ratchet-> omg
01:05 <Ratchet-> problems
01:06 <Ratchet-> its saying something about type help for built in commands
01:06 <Ratchet-> and built in shell
01:06 <Ratchet-> or what not
01:06 <Ratchet-> (ash)
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01:07 <Ratchet-> =-o
01:07 <Ratchet-> HALP!
01:07 <Ratchet-> wake up!
01:07 <Ratchet-> luke-jr,
01:07 <Ratchet-> luke-jr
01:07 <Ratchet-> luke-jr,  !
01:22 <ct|kyle> o0 Ratchet- is going or already is crazy
01:24 <hoop> Ratchet-, don't scream, this is a quiet room. be patient
01:24 <madmax> it's that time where all the people who advised Ratchet- to get ubuntu bail out
01:24 <hoop> lol
01:24 <hoop> Ratchet-, did you check madmax link?
01:25 <hoop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
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01:30 <Ratchet-> Luke, you back?
01:30 <hoop> whatsup Ratchet-
01:30 <Ratchet-> Trying to fix internet -.-
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01:31 <lm8o> zzzz
01:31 <Ratchet-> Hey tony
01:31 <lm8o> hi
01:31 <hoop> Ratchet-, did you check that link or not?
01:32 <Ratchet-> I never got a link -.-
01:32 <hoop> you did
01:32 <hoop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
01:32 <Ratchet-> I just installed Ubuntu and ran across internet problems.
01:32 <Ratchet-> I never visited that
01:32 <Ratchet-> 1 Sec
01:32 <hoop> check there if your card is supported
01:33 <Ratchet-> It is.
01:33 <Ratchet-> I talked to someone
01:33 <Ratchet-> they said Broadcom Is Highly supported.
01:33 <hoop> broadcom is just a company, you need more info
01:33 <hoop> model, type...
01:34 <Ratchet-> My router is Belkin
01:34 <hoop> nvm the router
01:34 <Ratchet-> Or Linksys
01:34 <Ratchet-> Uh
01:34 <Ratchet-> 1 SEc
01:34 <hoop> read that page, and do what they say
01:35 <hoop> you must try yourself before asking for help
01:35 <Ratchet-> I have Linksys router
01:35 <Ratchet-> Westell modem
01:35 <Ratchet-> My Internet thing on computer says Broadcom.
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01:35 <Ratchet-> where he told me to look
01:36 <hoop> are you blind
01:36 <Ratchet-> nope
01:36 <hoop> have you read that page
01:37 <ct|kyle> hoop: he probably is stonned :P
01:37 <Ratchet-> Westell is there
01:37 <Ratchet-> I searched for what you said -.-
01:37 <hoop> did you type the command they say?
01:37 <Ratchet-> negative
01:37 <hoop> read that page, and do what they say
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01:38 <Paralyzed> ello
01:38 <hoop> hi
01:38 <ct|kyle> when they say sudo rm -rf / do it
01:38 <ct|kyle> :P
01:38 <Ratchet-> I typed
01:38  * hoop slaps kyle gently
01:38 <Ratchet-> lspci -v | less
01:38 <Ratchet-> it says is not found
01:38 <Ratchet-> in cmd
01:38  * Paralyzed laughs
01:38 <Ratchet-> hey para
01:38 <Ratchet-> :d
01:38 <Paralyzed> ;D
01:39 <Ratchet-> hey hoooooop
01:39 <Ratchet-> i r noob
01:39 <Ratchet-> hhalp
01:39 <Ratchet-> boobie trap
01:39 <madmax> where did you type it?
01:39 <Ratchet-> in command
01:39 <Ratchet-> box
01:39 <Ratchet-> in windows
01:39 <Ratchet-> fyi ubuntu phails to get internet
01:39 <hoop> To determine what wireless card/chipset you have, open up a terminal and type the following.
01:39 <madmax> er, you're supposed to use that command in linux
01:39 <Ratchet-> technichal difshicalteez.
01:39 <hoop> yes, you're blind
01:39 <Ratchet-> no intranet
01:39 <Ratchet-> newb!
01:40 <Ratchet-> a terminal is the flippin command box
01:40 <Ratchet-> -.
01:40 <Ratchet-> -.-
01:40 <Ratchet-> ok whatever geniuses
01:40 <hoop> Ratchet-, wtf is a command box
01:40 <Ratchet-> brb
01:40 <madmax> can't you use a ethernet cable for a bit instead of wireless while on linux?
01:40 <Ratchet-> i'll look
01:40 <hoop> he is madmax
01:40 <Ratchet-> i did that no one helped
01:40 <Ratchet-> so i said f it
01:40 <hoop> no one?
01:40 <Ratchet-> i was here going
01:40 <Ratchet-> luke
01:40 <Ratchet-> luke
01:40 <Ratchet-> luke
01:40 <Ratchet-> luke
01:40 <Ratchet-> he said he'd halpl
01:41  * madmax notes he wasn't one of people who advised Ratchet- to get ubuntu
01:41 <Paralyzed> haha
01:41 <Ratchet-> and i had to steal the xbox live cord
01:41 <Ratchet-> my dad done took it back
01:41 <Ratchet-> and said newp
01:41 <Ratchet-> alright i'll brb
01:41 <Ratchet-> going type that
01:41 <hoop> stop it Ratchet-
01:41 <hoop> how about that command?
01:41 <Ratchet-> stoped.
01:41 <Ratchet-> command box
01:41 <Ratchet-> dos
01:41 <Ratchet-> black box
01:41 <Ratchet-> white text
01:42 <hoop> are you on linux now?
01:42 <Ratchet-> sigh!!!!
01:42 <Ratchet-> my dad wont let me have ethernet, I am going to swap over without internet to do it..
01:42 <hoop> are you on linux now?
01:42 <Ratchet-> i can't!
01:42 <hoop> are you on linux now?
01:42 <madmax> he isn't
01:42 <Ratchet-> no
01:42 <Ratchet-> !
01:42 <Ratchet-> i am on windows until i can get internet set up
01:42 <hoop> say yes/no damnit
01:42 <Ratchet-> yes/no and no
01:43 <Ratchet-> is answer
01:43 <Ratchet-> *no*
01:43 <Ratchet-> i am on windows
01:43 <ct|kyle> BSOS*
01:43 <hoop> is there an icon like 'computer resources' on you desktop?
01:43 <Ratchet-> er
01:43 <Ratchet-> my computer
01:43 <Flex> lol
01:43 <hoop> k
01:43 <Ratchet-> control panel
01:43 <Ratchet-> etc
01:43 <Paralyzed> raffle
01:43 <Ratchet-> what you need me to find i can find it
01:44 <hoop> now stfu and listen and answer my qusetions, or you wont's get help from me
01:44 <Ratchet-> okay
01:44 <Ratchet-> :)
01:44 <Paralyzed> :)
01:44 <hoop> ok I don't know how it's called in english version, there must be an icon of a computer, right?
01:45 <Ratchet-> My Computer, Yes
01:45 <hoop> ok, right clik->properties
01:45 <Ratchet-> K
01:45 <Ratchet-> Did
01:46 <hoop> it should spawn a window with windows logo in center, is it?
01:46 <Ratchet-> Jups
01:46 <hoop> click the 'hardware' tab
01:46 <Ratchet-> I R there
01:46  * Ratchet- guesses Device Manager
01:46 <Flex> Ratchet, what's the problem? if you don't mind me asking :)
01:46 <hoop> right
01:47 <Ratchet-> Network adapters too?
01:47 <Ratchet-> Flex: Intarnet on linux phail
01:47 <hoop> Flex, he needs to know his wireless card model
01:47 <Flex> ah, so hoop wants to find the network card name
01:47 <Monkey_arma> ratchet remember this:
01:47 <Ratchet-> Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
01:47 <Monkey_arma> wired = good     wireless = bad
01:48 <Ratchet-> I am 13, I have no choice
01:48 <Ratchet-> -.-
01:48 <Flex> right, then get the drivers on ubuntu
01:48 <hoop> Monkey_arma, he's got no choice, he's card should be supported by ubuntu though
01:48 <Ratchet-> So I plug internet in by cable and download a driver thing?
01:48 <hoop> is it a miniPCI?
01:48 <Ratchet-> Pardon?
01:49 <Flex> probably usb
01:49 <Ratchet-> PCI slot 9
01:49 <hoop> pay attention now, you need to cathc eveything about your card model
01:49 <Ratchet-> PCI bus 6
01:49 <Ratchet-> ok
01:49 <hoop> anything related to it
01:50 <hoop> do you have the ubuntu help page on?
01:50 <hoop> click the broadcom link
01:50 <Ratchet-> am
01:50 <Ratchet-> ok hold on
01:50 <Ratchet-> i there
01:52 <Ratchet-> i got a compaq presario c300
01:53 <hoop> can you find your card in the list?
01:54 <Ratchet-> i dont understand the difference... my card thing has nothing about that
01:54 <StickyNoob> hoop: you probably could have found all that out by typing lspci
01:54 <hoop> StickyNoob, he's on windows
01:54 <StickyNoob> Ratchet-> Flex: Intarnet on linux phail
01:54 <hoop> Ratchet-, you need to find your model number
01:55 <Ratchet-> BCMWL5
01:55 <hoop> that's it
01:55 <hoop> ...maybe
01:55 <madmax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=469773 <-- about a compaq presario c300 on ubuntu
01:56 <Ratchet-> C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\BCMWL5.SYS
01:56 <hoop> dont mix windows and linux
01:57 <hoop> that file is useless for ubuntu
01:57 <hoop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&page=1&pp=10&highlight=bcmwl5
01:58 <Ratchet-> I follow that?
01:59 <hoop> not if you are on windows
01:59 <hoop> keep that link
01:59 <hoop> write it somewhere or save the page
01:59 <hoop> try to follow those instructions on ubuntu
02:00 <Ratchet-> done
02:00 <hoop> you need to be connected of course
02:00 <hoop> to download the drivers
02:00 <hoop> note that to find that page i googled for: 'BCMWL5 driver ubuntu'
02:01 <Ratchet-> I know
02:01 <Ratchet-> However
02:01 <hoop> :P
02:01 <StickyNoob> are you sure the drivers arnt already in there?
02:01 <Ratchet-> Wait
02:01 <Ratchet-> I do NOTHING on windows?
02:01 <hoop> no
02:01 <Ratchet-> not the move the file thing?
02:01 <Ratchet-> k
02:01 <hoop> can you connect ubuntu via cable?
02:02 <Ratchet-> er
02:02 <Ratchet-> I don't think so at the moment
02:02 <Ratchet-> Though I am burying my grandfather tomorrow
02:02 <Ratchet-> So i should be staying home..
02:02 <Ratchet-> I'll use it tonight when no one is on xbox.
02:02 <Ratchet-> Printing the page
02:02 <Ratchet-> atm
02:03 <hoop> you got what a terminal is?
02:03 <Ratchet-> Ha
02:03 <Ratchet-> No
02:03 <Ratchet-> Lol
02:03 <Ratchet-> Hopo
02:03 <Ratchet-> Hoop
02:03 <hoop> that's where you type those commands
02:03 <Ratchet-> Just remembered
02:03 <Ratchet-> Ubuntu being ghey
02:03 <Ratchet-> It's displaying a built in shell problem or something
02:03 <Ratchet-> saying type help for commands
02:04 <hoop> when?
02:04 <hoop> when is it displayed?
02:05 <ct|kyle> #google "BCMWL5 driver ubuntu"
02:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.23 seconds: Ubuntu and my wireless-- bcmwl5 .inf, etc. - LinuxQuestions.org: <http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/ubuntu-and-my-wireless-bcmwl5.inf-etc.-516237/>; HOW TO: Configure wireless cards with Broadcom chipsets - Ubuntu ...: <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&page=1&pp=10&highlight=bcmwl5>; Ndiswrapper, bcmwl5 driver (3 more messages)
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02:07 <Ratchet-> On startup
02:07 <Ratchet-> It does the ubuntu loading then that
02:08 <hoop> it's angry cus you gave him only 8 Gb
02:08 <Ratchet-> :\
02:09 <Ratchet-> How do i change it -.-
02:09 <Ratchet-> and unpiss him off
02:09 <Ratchet-> :x
02:09 <hoop> jk, I don't know what's your problem
02:09 <Ratchet-> omgawd
02:09 <hoop> perhaps nothing important
02:09 <Ratchet-> it wont start up....
02:09 <Ratchet-> i cant get past it
02:09 <Ratchet-> its important all right
02:09 <hoop> :o
02:09 <hoop> man you're fucked then
02:09 <Ratchet-> Ugh
02:10 <hoop> was it connected when you installed it?
02:10 <Ratchet-> meaning
02:10 <Ratchet-> I can  reinstall....
02:10 <hoop> was it?
02:10 <Ratchet-> to what?
02:10 <hoop> to my dick
02:10 <Ratchet-> internet.. only wireless
02:10 <Ratchet-> maybe
02:10 <hoop> XD
02:11 <Ratchet-> were you in my room about 2 hours ago
02:11 <Ratchet-> ?
02:11 <Ratchet-> :X
02:11 <hoop> didn't you say you can connect via cable?
02:12 <hoop> I'm out
02:12 <StickyNoob> heh
02:13 <Ratchet-> I did say that, But I am limited from it because of hogs
02:14 <hoop> #tr en it hog
02:14 <Ratchet-> lol
02:14 <Ratchet-> ok so I will reinstall
02:14 <Ratchet-> and connect to cable
02:14 <Ratchet-> and run that page i printed
02:14 <Ratchet-> it will work then?
02:14 <hoop> it's recommended to be connected when you install linux
02:14 <Ratchet-> k i wil this time
02:15 <hoop> not sure it will solve, but hope so
02:15 <Ratchet-> once i do that page
02:15 <hoop> what's a hog btw?
02:15 <madmax> hogs ≈ freezes
02:15 <Ratchet-> where do i get the driver
02:15 <Ratchet-> hogs are people that... er... dont share
02:15 <Ratchet-> lol
02:15 <madmax> oh wait
02:15 <hoop> if you're luck the installer will find the driver itself
02:15 <Ratchet-> oh
02:15 <hoop> lucky*
02:15 <Ratchet-> okay
02:16 <Ratchet-> and if not?
02:16 <Ratchet-> PLAN B?
02:16 <hoop> just don't forget your card model, it may prompt you for that
02:16 <hoop> plan B is monkey's plan: buy a mac
02:17 <StickyNoob> plan A sounds pretty fail
02:17 <StickyNoob> mainly since its following a guide written 3 years old
02:17 <StickyNoob> *ago
02:18 <Ratchet-> is there a way to download a driver thing
02:18 <Ratchet-> that finds it
02:19 <hoop> Ratchet-, google for your card model, try to get more info
02:19 <hoop> as StickyNoob says, that guide is a bit old, I didn't check that. but it may work anyway
02:20 <hoop> this may be better:
02:20 <hoop> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/ubuntu-and-my-wireless-bcmwl5.inf-etc.-516237/
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02:21 <Ratchetzorz> ugh
02:21 <Ratchetzorz> this crap is ip based?
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02:22 <hoop> ? the web is ip based?
02:22 <Ratchetzorz> this
02:22 <Ratchetzorz> chat
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02:23 <hoop> this chat is part of the web
02:23 <abljdbasdj> o
02:23 <abljdbasdj> i cannot
02:23 <abljdbasdj> er
02:23 <abljdbasdj> get Ratchet-
02:23 <abljdbasdj> on a new ip
02:24 <Paralyzed> :O
02:24 <Paralyzed> still helping him?
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02:24 <Ratchy> =-o
02:24 <Ratchy> brb
02:24 <Ratchy> changing ip to avoid a ban from #ubuntu
02:24 <Paralyzed> wtfz0rz!
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02:25 <Ratchhhhhhhh> har
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02:25 <dsfhsdlfkhsdfskf> there
02:25 <dsfhsdlfkhsdfskf> now i will go
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02:37 <dsfhsdlfkhsdfskf> all kind of people are telling me it wont work
02:37 <dsfhsdlfkhsdfskf> -.-
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02:53 <Ratch> hellooo
02:53 <StickyNoob> yo
02:53 <Ratch> ok making sure i not dead
02:53 <StickyNoob> ok
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03:24 <Monkey_arma> anyone for fort at tr?
03:32 <Monkey_arma> currently 10 people there
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04:10 <Ratchet-> kay
04:10 <Ratchet-> back
04:19 <Monkey_arma> how is it going ratchet?
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14:56 <Monkey_arma> audacious is putting config stuff all over the place in my home dir. Can someone recommend a better audio player for Linux please.
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15:01 <eddiefantastic> amarok?
15:01 <eddiefantastic> I use mplayer personally
15:04 <Monkey_arma> if i install amarok i will be swamped with Qt probablly
15:05 <eddiefantastic> mplayer /path/to/album/*.mp3
15:05 <eddiefantastic> works for me ;)
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16:14 <Monkey_arma> i might just get mplayer...nothing else really seems to cut it yet
16:15 <Monkey_arma> xmms2 is a bit all over the place..not sure how ready it is
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16:16 <noob13> i wish there was a foobar2000 for linux
16:17 <noob13> best music player i've ever witnessed
16:18 <noob13> i'm using xmms because it feels lighter than any other
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18:04 <luke-jr_> noob13: noob
18:05 <luke-jr_> noob13: xmms isn't even maintained!
18:08 <epsy> i thought (nick color) it was ivantis talking
18:09 <noob13> luke-jr_: i figured that out too..
18:09 <noob13> truth being i haven't used the computer for my music in quite some time
18:09 <epsy> [memo] to play music: bluetooth-send <file>
18:10 <luke-jr_> epsy: do me a favour!
18:11 <epsy> luke-jr_, want me to try to fix pthreads detection?
18:11 <luke-jr_> epsy: it doesn't work for you?
18:12 <epsy> it first thought it was installed trough it wasnt and now i installed it it still wont compile
18:12 <epsy> wrong header files, or at least, not those i have here
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> luke-jr, http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/d7cfaafc3
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> --enable-dedicated --enable-authentication
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> $ find `pth-config --includedir`/ -name pth*
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> /usr/include/pthread.h
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> /usr/include/pth.h
18:12 <epsy> <epsy> /usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h
18:12 <luke-jr_> uhh
18:12 <luke-jr_> pthreads is built in to Linux
18:12 <luke-jr_> I think
18:14 <luke-jr_> at least glibc
18:18 <luke-jr_> yeah, glibc + Linux provides pthread
18:18 <luke-jr_> epsy: so what's the problem?
18:18 <epsy> network/nAuthentication.cpp:57:29: erreur: pthread-binding.h : Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type [no such file or directory]
18:18 <epsy> see linked pastebin
18:23 <luke-jr_> yeah, whatever that means
18:25 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: next words out of your mouth better be "You suck, your computer sucks, and get yourself a SANE linux installed" or I'm telling everyone you're becoming human.
18:28 <luke-jr_> wtf?
18:28 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: *you* suck
18:28 <luke-jr_> so there
18:28 <mkzelda> :)
18:29 <mkzelda> i couldnt allow you to get soft
18:29 <luke-jr_> f u
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18:48 <MrBougo> <noob13> i'm using xmms because it feels lighter than any other
18:48 <MrBougo> audacious is a fork from xmms or something like that
18:48 <MrBougo> or they are cousins
18:48 <MrBougo> or whatever...
18:49 <epsy> they made children, too
18:49 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: audacious is dead too
18:49 <luke-jr_> epsy: …
18:50 <epsy> enjoy sarcasm, dude :)
18:51 <MrBougo> luke-jr_, is it?
18:51 <luke-jr_> epsy: yes, good idea to commit pthread-binding.h
18:51 <MrBougo> I thought it was still maintained
18:51 <luke-jr_> epsy: done
18:51 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: not afaik
18:51 <MrBougo> was it forked?
18:51 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: I use MPD and Amarok
18:51 <epsy> to commit it?
18:51 <MrBougo> damn, is there any good gnome player :p
18:51 <MrBougo> amarok is QT :/
18:51 <MrBougo> Qt*
18:51 <MrBougo> I don't know MPD, let me check
18:51 <luke-jr_> epsy: yes, it's a short C header that giving you C++ bindings for pthread
18:52 <luke-jr_> MrBougo: Qt is win
18:52 <luke-jr_> GNOME is suck
18:52 <epsy> homemade?
18:52 <MrBougo> well, luke-jr_, maybe I'll switch
18:52 <MrBougo> give me some time to get familiar with linux first :p
18:52 <epsy> MrBougo, MPD is quite good
18:52 <epsy> except for streaming over bluetooth
18:53 <epsy> well, alsa just sucks at it, as well many other sound driver sets
18:53 <MrBougo> wait, MPD is a server
18:54 <MrBougo> what do you use as client, epsy ?
18:54 <epsy> used to use different clients
18:54 <epsy> gmpc, pympd
18:54 <epsy> pympd's UI is based on iTunes/iTunes clones
18:55 <MrBougo> yuck :p
18:55 <epsy> there's also another one, which i forgot it's name
18:55 <MrBougo> meh
18:55 <MrBougo> what about mplayer?
18:56 <MrBougo> it seems mpd doesn't support .cue/.mp3 combos
18:56 <epsy> well, it wont manage your music DB
18:56 <epsy> mpd should support most stuff
18:56 <epsy> mplayer can play every kind of crap, as long as you have codecs for it
18:56 <mkzelda> i use mplayer
18:57 <mkzelda> ive never had a time where i wanted a playlist so long I couldnt ls the dirs > playlist.m3u
18:57 <MrBougo> .cue/.mp3 isn't a matter of codecs
18:58 <MrBougo> I don't really care about my music db
18:58 <epsy> then mplayer should be fine
18:58 <MrBougo> my filesystem organization is enough for me
18:58 <MrBougo> okay then, I'll try it
18:59 <epsy> a<x>io
18:59 <epsy> can't remember what the <x> is
18:59 <epsy> d'oh
18:59 <epsy> ario!
19:01 <MrBougo> hehe
19:10 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r886 duh, missing file
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19:13 <luke-jr_> epsy: so does that work?
19:13 <epsy> *playing with a sword*
19:13 <epsy> compiling!
19:14 <epsy> hm
19:14 <epsy> it only happens between rounds, still
19:15 <epsy> did i miss a switch or something?
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19:21 <luke-jr_> dunno :/
19:23 <epsy> did you try it yourslef?
19:23 <luke-jr_> nope
19:23 <epsy> heh
19:23 <luke-jr_> just replaced code and made it compile
19:23 <luke-jr_> <.<
19:23 <luke-jr_> not sure where I'd go to debug that problem anyway
19:24 <epsy> maybe it's not built because zthread support isn't enabled
19:24 <epsy> so the pp wipes it out
19:24 <luke-jr_> ?
19:24 <epsy> (except for the include)
19:24 <luke-jr_> check?
19:24 <epsy> i don't know where that code is
19:25 <epsy> second
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19:36 <hoax> #si gay
19:36 <armabot> hoax: Gays Meeting - Gays Only!: Players (1/16): lolipop
19:36 <hoax> yours luke-jr_?
19:36 <epsy> luke-jr_, you forgot to edit template< class T > static void ScheduleMayBlock( T & object, void (T::*function)(), bool block )
19:37 <epsy> nAuthentication.cpp, line 373
19:38 <epsy> omg ¦×¦ should rush in!
19:45 <hoax> :P
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20:10 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r887 Whoops, forgot to remove that
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20:18 <luke-jr_> ]later tell xfroggy server cancel in about 1 week, right?
20:18 <luke-jr_> epsy: did you fix it?
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22:25 <ivantis> my god
22:25 <ivantis> windows sucks
22:26 <luke-jr_> a perfect match for you!
22:26 <ivantis> i emailed an assignment to my teacher that i edited on this computer. just a plain text file, i titled it english.letter
22:27 <ivantis> today she said that she couldnt open it and that i need to rename it to a .txt instead of .letter
22:27 <ivantis> as well as windows wouldnt let her rename it herself because it thinks its smarter than you and you dont know what youre doing
22:29 <ivantis> here is my email reply: Ivan: re-send this and give it a ".txt" ending instead of ".letter"
22:29 <ivantis> why does whoever put that "feature" in windows think that would be handy?
22:31 <ivantis> idiots
22:31 <P4> a lot of parents of my friends like that 'feature' because he can rename files quickly
22:32 <P4> s/he/they
22:32 <ivantis> without having to type 3 or 4 more characters? that must be so difficult on their poor little hands
22:32 <ivantis> luke: why the _?
22:32 <P4> you just F2, ctrl+v, 1 [enter]
22:32 -!- ivantis is now known as luke-jr
22:33 <luke-jr> you forget your pass?
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22:34 <ivantis> did it just say connection reset by peer for me?
22:34 <ivantis> try a HTTP request on port 6667
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22:47 <ivantis> wrtlprnft: what happened to you?
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22:47 <P4> #hello
22:47 <armabot> Hello P4 :) Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
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22:53 <ivantis> .ping
22:54 <ivantis> #ping
22:54 <armabot> pong
22:54 <ivantis> @ping
22:54 <ivantis> ]ping
22:54 <ivantis> grr
23:17 <epsy> luke-jr_, nope
23:17 <luke-jr_> -.-
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23:18 <epsy> *might* do tomorrow
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23:29 <ivantis> hoop:
23:29 <ivantis> gtkmm help again
23:30 <ivantis> why wouldnt the program posted at http://pastebin.com/m634b32a8 work?
23:30 <ivantis> it compiles alright and makes a window, but the button doesnt show up
23:31 <ivantis> oh nvm
23:32 <ivantis> i forgot window.show_all_children()
23:35 <hoop> epsy, what's the :(
23:36 <epsy> qt </3
23:37 <hoop> reason?
23:37 <hoop> I'm comparing them atm
23:38 <epsy> wheight
23:39 <epsy> and also it doesnt fit on my desk :O
23:39 <hoop> ivantis, if you realize out how to customize the toolbar icon I give you 40320100 cookies
23:39 <hoop> what desk?
23:39 <ivantis> im no moron
23:39 <hoop> ?
23:40 <ivantis> you mean the one next to the text in the button?
23:40 <ivantis> the stock thing?
23:40 <hoop> did you see vectron have some button without pa picture?
23:40 <ivantis> no
23:41 <ivantis> wait
23:41 <ivantis> yes
23:41 <ivantis> why?
23:41 <hoop> the reason is that i didn't realize how to apply custom icon there
23:41 <ivantis> oh
23:41 <ivantis> cant you use any old image with a correct path?
23:42 <ivantis> hey, why would this not work?
23:42 <epsy> seen many doing it
23:42 <ivantis> pbutton.signal_clicked().connect(on_clicked_button());
23:42 <ivantis> my compiler says "invalid use of void expression"
23:42 <ivantis> (gcc)
23:42 <hoop> that's c++
23:43 <ivantis> oh
23:43 <ivantis> what do i need to use?
23:43 <epsy> make
23:43 <ivantis> nono
23:43 <hoop> gcc = c compiler
23:43 <hoop> g++ = c++ compiler
23:43 <ivantis> i am using g++
23:43 <ivantis> its the same as gcc
23:44 <ivantis> just diff name
23:44 <hoop> epsy, I know it's possible, just can't see how, the documentation quite confused about that
23:45 <hoop> ivantis, connect() wants void as argument
23:45 <hoop> no sorry
23:45 <ivantis> void <void_name()>?
23:45 <hoop> you're passing it a void becaue on_clicked_button() returns void
23:46 <hoop> connect wants a function pointer
23:46 <ivantis> connect(void on_clicked_button())?
23:46 <hoop> forget the void
23:46 <ivantis> or connect(on_clicked_button())?
23:46 <ivantis> that?
23:46 <hoop> try connect() without arguments and post what it says
23:47 <ivantis> helloworld2.cpp:23: error: no matching function for call to ‘Glib::SignalProxy0<void>::connect()’
23:47 <ivantis> /usr/include/glibmm-2.4/glibmm/signalproxy.h:145: note: candidates are: sigc::connection Glib::SignalProxy0<R>::connect(const sigc::slot<T_return, sigc::nil, sigc::nil, sigc::nil, sigc::nil, sigc::nil, sigc::nil, sigc::nil>&, bool) [with R = void]
23:48 <hoop> see? connect requires 4 arguments
23:48 <ivantis> what should they be then?
23:48 <hoop> wai
23:49 <hoop> said wrong
23:49 <hoop> it wants at least 2 args
23:49 <hoop> ivantis: google
23:49 <ivantis> here is the source i got it from: m_button.signal_clicked().connect( sigc::mem_fun(*this, &Buttons::on_button_clicked) );
23:52 <hoop> ah right, thats the correct syntax, forget my bullshits
23:52 <ivantis> what should *this be replaced with in my case?
23:52 <hoop> you know what's this for?
23:52 <ct|kyle> hoop: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199119#199119 :)
23:52 <ivantis> no
23:53 <ivantis> oh
23:53 <ivantis> this data type?
23:53 <hoop> you know the command 'this' ?
23:53 <ivantis> yeah
23:53 <ivantis> a pointer to itsself?
23:53 <ct|kyle> hoop: i forgot to say you also need math.h for that :)
23:53 <epsy> Roflcopter xD
23:53 <hoop> ct|kyle, nice, thanks I'm gonna look it immediatlely
23:54 <ivantis> what?
23:54 <ivantis> what is it for??
23:54 <ct|kyle> using xdir and ydir to find angle
23:54 <hoop> yea, a pointer to the object itself
23:54 <epsy> so that it doesnt get dropped rite?
23:54 <ivantis> sooo?
23:54 <epsy> it's called a reference
23:55 <ivantis> then
23:55 <ivantis> it should be in my case, main?
23:55 <ivantis> idk
23:55 <hoop> ivantis, Ill try to explain that function
23:55 <epsy> huh?
23:55 <hoop> sigc::mem_fun(*this, &Buttons::on_button_clicked)
23:55 <ivantis> okay
23:55 <ivantis> we got that
23:56 <hoop> you are gonna connect m_button.signal_clicked() to another function ok?
23:56 <ivantis> yes
23:57 <hoop> sigc::mem_fun is designed for member functions only
23:57 <hoop> is that your case?
23:57 <ivantis> no
23:57 <hoop> you know what a member function is?
23:57 <ivantis> its in the same struct or whatever?
23:58 <ivantis> er
23:58 <ivantis> the same class?
23:58 <hoop> member function is that function that is defined inside a class
23:58 <ivantis> right
23:59 <hoop> that's why sig::mem_fun takes 2 args: first is the object owning the function, second is the function itself
23:59 <hoop> if you want to just connect the click to a normal function use ptr_fun

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00:00 <hoop> sigc::ptr_fun of course
00:00 <ivantis> sigc::ptr_fun(on_clicked_button())
00:00 <hoop> no
00:00 <ivantis> it returns invalid use of void
00:00 <ivantis> then what should it be?
00:01 <hoop> I've told you enough, solution is your target
00:01 <ivantis> solution?
00:02 <epsy> solution: end of the world, black hole in genevia
00:02 <hoop> look better at the example you found
00:02 <ivantis> (this, &func())?
00:02 <ivantis> er
00:03 <hoop> and get a c++ manual, book, whatever, seems you need it atm
00:03 <ivantis> s/this/\*this/
00:03  * ivantis does
00:03 <hoop> wtf, look better at that example
00:04 <ivantis> (*this, &func())
00:04 <ivantis> yes
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00:05 <ivantis> aha
00:05 <ivantis> i needed to remove the () after &func
00:05 <ivantis> i read the manual thing
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01:15 <ivantis> eww
01:15 <ivantis> i just ate a piece of popcorn off the floor and there was a hair on it!
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01:26 <Ratchet_Arma> uh fellas
01:27 <Ratchet_Arma> got a bit of a problam
01:27 <Ratchet_Arma> about 6 months ago my sister got a virus
01:27 <Ratchet_Arma> apparently it got on the modem somehow, and when i plugged into it... i got it
01:27 <Ratchet_Arma> I completely restored my computer and no longer have it
01:28 <Ratchet_Arma> i will talk to my father about the issue and perhaps get a new modem and such
01:28 <Ratchet_Arma> therefore i might be getting a linux friendly modem/card
01:30 <hoop> he could just reset the modem btw XD
01:31 <Ratchet_Arma> orly?
01:31 <Ratchet_Arma> i still didnt tell him about it yet
01:31 <Ratchet_Arma> ;x
01:38 <ivantis> dont you mean router?
01:39 <ivantis> a router is plugged into a modem
01:39 <ivantis> which is plugged into your telephone line or a cable
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02:32 <Ratchet_Arma> Yes
02:32 <Ratchet_Arma> I know.
02:32 <Ratchet_Arma> But I plugged it into modem.
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03:40 <Ratchet_Arma> hey guys
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03:40 <Ratchet_Arma> this is my problem:
03:41 <Ratchet_Arma> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash)
03:41 <Ratchet_Arma> Enter ‘help’ for a list of built-in commands.
03:41 <Ratchet_Arma> (initramfs)
03:41 <Ratchet_Arma> what dooo i do
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06:55 <teabot> vectronci: [vectron_gtk] r1 created the kdevelop project...
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14:28 <ivantis> #later tell ratchet huh? busybox? do you mean "bash" instead of "ash"? what are you using it for?
14:28 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:29 <ivantis> #later tell ratchet_arma huh? busybox? do you mean "bash" instead of "ash"? what are you using it for?
14:29 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:29 <ivantis>  #later tell ratchet- huh? busybox? do you mean "bash" instead of "ash"? what are you using it for?
14:29 <ivantis> #later tell ratchet- huh? busybox? do you mean "bash" instead of "ash"? what are you using it for?
14:29 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
14:30 <epsy> perhaps try ratchet* next time
14:30 <ivantis> wildcards work?
14:31 <epsy> i heard
14:43 <epsy> nah, that's great, it only crashes when no debugger is attached
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14:46 <epsy> ah, nevermind, only when it's started within the debugger :)
14:48 <epsy> still, that's something i don't understand..
15:00 <epsy> #later tell luke-jr* http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m400770cd
15:00 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
15:01 <epsy> #later tell luke-jr* it somehow crashes at second auth try if not gdb-attached from the beginning, and i don't have much of a clue on the issue
15:01 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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16:07 <hoop> salut
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16:11 <Monkey_arma> lasut
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17:03 <teabot> vectronci: [main_branch] r2 project cleanup... || [main_branch] r1 created the kdevelop project...
17:18 <hoop> epsy, how does merging work? I've approved a testing proposal but nothing happens.
17:19 <epsy> er, what are you trying to do?
17:21 <hoop> I'm testing launchpad things, there's a trunk branch that only me can modify, and another branch driven by a team
17:21 <hoop> I'm trying to merge the branch into the trunk
17:21 <epsy> ah
17:21 <epsy> "propose for merge" is just basically saying "hey dudes, let's merge this in this, OK ?"
17:22 <epsy> it does not merge it for you, i think
17:22 <hoop> I thought that since I'm the only team member, my vote would be enough
17:22 <hoop> oh, doesn't it?
17:22 <hoop> It's just a voting system then?
17:23 <epsy> i don't think so
17:23 <epsy> indeed
17:23 <hoop> ok I see, thanks :)
17:29 <ct|kyle> hoop: still the same error
17:29 <ct|kyle> error(s)
17:36 <epsy> @vectron
17:36 <teabot> Bug tracker : https://bugs.launchpad.net/vectron || Answers : https://answers.launchpad.net/vectron || Bzr branches : https://code.launchpad.net/vectron || Blueprints : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/vectron
17:36 <epsy> :O
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18:02 <epsy> #notes luke-jr
18:03 <armabot> epsy: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
18:03 <epsy> #notes luke-jr*
18:03 <armabot> epsy: Sent 3 hours and 2 minutes ago: <epsy> http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m400770cd and Sent 3 hours and 1 minute ago: <epsy> it somehow crashes at second auth try if not gdb-attached from the beginning, and i don't have much of a clue on the issue
18:04 <luke-jr> o
18:04 <luke-jr> that sucks
18:04 <epsy> indeed
18:27 <hoop> epsy, why is teabot ci report so delayed?
18:27 <epsy> ask the launchpad guys about it
18:27 <epsy> teabot checks every two minutes
18:27 <hoop> boo
18:27 <epsy> the feeds get only updated after almost half an hour :/
18:27 <hoop> feeds?
18:28 <epsy> the atom feeds
18:28 <epsy> @help vectroncommits
18:28 <teabot> epsy: (vectroncommits [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for vectroncommits at the RSS feed <http://feeds.launchpad.net/vectron/revisions.atom>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
18:29 <hoop> idk what an RSS feed is
18:29 <epsy> click it
18:30 <hoop> epsy, can you test if vectron compiles in you comp?
18:30 <epsy> i compiled it when you released
18:30 <hoop> here it works, but kyle had problem
18:30 <epsy> worked fine, except i missed some package ./configure did not tell me about
18:31 <hoop> I've changed something in configure script to avoid the user to edit the path
18:31 <epsy> better :P
18:32 <hoop> kyle got: config.h:1: error: expected unqualified-id before '<<' token
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18:32 <hoop> but now he's out to work
18:37 <epsy> hoop, tell him to paste his config.h perhaps?
18:39 <epsy> works
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19:02 <hoop> epsy, I asked him, he wasn't there
19:03 <epsy> ct|kyle, you suck!
19:03 <hoop> thanks btw
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19:08 <Monkey_arma> im listenging to the best remix of block rocking beats ever
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19:09 <teabot> vectroncommits: [trunk] r1 first upload (the real first was messed up)...
19:09 <epsy> 1 hours hrm
19:09 <epsy> s/s//
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19:13 <hoop> <-- zz top a the moment XD
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19:49 <hoax> which remix monk
19:52 <Monkey_arma> dunno, was streaming radio (gremlin radio)
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19:56 <hoax> oh
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20:03 <K-Yo> I updated fort café clone: help topics, scores, shuffling up
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20:17 <Monkey_arma> hi Acromatic
20:17 <Monkey_arma> New to armagetron?
20:17 <Acromatic> sup
20:17 <Acromatic> I played it awhile back
20:18 <Acromatic> new to this channel yes
20:18 <noob13> does anyone know where maps are saved under windows?
20:18 <noob13> maps downloaded over the client that is..
20:19 <Acromatic> don't suppose the game has been updated within the last few months?
20:19 <Monkey_arma> Acromatic it has but not by a lot
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20:20 <noob13> there hasn't been a new version, BUT they're working on some cool new features as we speak
20:20 <noob13> :P
20:20 <noob13> or just slacking off..who knows.
20:20 <Acromatic> slacking? I love slacking
20:21 <Acromatic> good job keeping up the status quo
20:21 <Acromatic> heh
20:22 <noob13> #armaservers
20:22 <armabot> noob13: This data is 27 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (8/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), Flower Power Sumo Assault (6/12), >>> FAST TRACK FIGHT NOW (Closing forbidden) <<< (5/12), The YELLOW Submarine (3/16), SPACEZONE II S (3/15), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (2/16), Nexus9 Sumo (NO RUBBER!) (2/8), (1 more message)
20:23 <noob13> #more
20:23 <Monkey_arma> slacking is in ware?
20:23 <armabot> noob13: |FA| BLACK ICE (2/16), WILDCAT (2/8), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (1/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (1/12), nixda.net - The Race (1/16)
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20:23 <Acromatic> slacking as in loser kingdom :D
20:23 <Monkey_arma> ok
20:24 <Acromatic> linux is a scam.. just generally wasting time is wonderful
20:24 <Acromatic> did I say that aloud?
20:24 <Acromatic> hmm
20:25  * hoax slackmaster
20:27 <Acromatic> I find that being too constructive leaves you very accomplished and rather bored with life.. on the other hand doing nothing is a statement of fashion leaves you with an open schedule and a desire to continue on to become something.. success really is over rated
20:28 <Monkey_arma> Acromatic what is your ingame name?
20:28 <Acromatic> Acromatic...
20:29 <Monkey_arma> k
20:30 <Acromatic> I'm not currently playing the game.. I just stumbled upon familiar terminology and felt like making my failure statement in this vicinity ;)
20:31 <hoax> you can do anything tomorrow, right?
20:32 <Acromatic> quite the opposite.. failure is perpetual and infinitely limiting :)
20:33 <hoax> :)
20:33 <Acromatic> perhaps more along the lines of "da man keepin me down"
20:36 <Acromatic> for example I notice the channel #twitter.. this is quality entertainment you simply not accessible to those of the productive nature
20:37 <Acromatic> -you
20:40 <luke-jr> Acromatic fail
20:40 <Acromatic> successfully so yes
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20:41 <luke-jr> suffering ftw!
20:42 <Acromatic> there is no such thing as suffering.. only motivtional empowerment and misfortune
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20:43 <Acromatic> suffering is a self inflicted mental state
20:43 <Ratchet_Arma> hi
20:46 <ivantis> ratchet
20:46 <ivantis> what is this "ash"?
20:47 <K-Yo> #si café
20:47 <armabot> K-Yo: fortress café - CT's clone: Players (3/32): .dBd|Thµnd3r, cT¤K-Yo, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
20:48 <ivantis> #tea
20:48 <armabot> ivantis: fortress café - CT's clone: Players (5/32): .dBd|Thµnd3r, cT¤K-Yo, Epsilon012, Lackadaisical, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
20:48 <ivantis> fort cafe is back!
20:48 <Lackadaisical> it's a fraud!
20:49 <K-Yo> :P
20:50 <Ratchet_Arma> Itt's
20:50 <ivantis> what?
20:50 <Ratchet_Arma> I don't know honestly.
20:50 <Ratchet_Arma> It just shows this message: (let me find it)
20:50 <ivantis> okay, what does it do and why do you have it?
20:50 <Ratchet_Arma> When I start up my computer
20:50 <ivantis> yes
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> and Click "Ubuntu"
20:51 <ivantis> dual boot?
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> It does the startup process and everything
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> but instead of the ubuntu screen:
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> like the desktop
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> it shows
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in Shell (ash)
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
20:51 <Ratchet_Arma> (initramfs)
20:51 <ivantis> thats...weird
20:51 <ivantis> that never happened to me
20:52 <ivantis> but i havent rebooted my computer in a while
20:52 <Monkey_arma> ash is a cut down version of bash
20:52 <ivantis>  13:50:21 up 24 days, 21:23,  2 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.28, 0.14
20:52 <Monkey_arma> i think one of the BSDs even uses it as their main shell
20:52 <ivantis> thats my uptime
20:52 <Monkey_arma> s/main/default
20:52 <ivantis> see how good linux is? 24 days without a reboot
20:53 <ivantis> windows couldnt last 5 hours without crashing
20:53 <Monkey_arma> tell that to gxine
20:53 <Ratchet_Arma> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922029
20:53 <ivantis> gxine?
20:53 <Monkey_arma> 35 crashes in just one day
20:53 <Ratchet_Arma> check that out.
20:53 <ivantis> linux or windows?
20:54 <Ratchet_Arma> My windows can last for months....
20:54 <Monkey_arma> gxine i linux
20:54 <Ratchet_Arma> I choose to restart it though
20:54 <ivantis> no it cant
20:54 <ivantis> because windows sucks
20:54 <ivantis> you heard me right
20:54 <Ratchet_Arma> ..... you cannot tell me what my computer can and cannot do
20:54 <ivantis> they may be winning, but they arent better
20:55 <ivantis> rly? your comp can last for months?
20:55 <ivantis> okay
20:55 <ivantis> switch back to windows
20:55 <ivantis> get on IRC
20:55 <ivantis> and stay there for a month
20:55 <ivantis> then i believe you
20:55 <madmax> ivantis: you say 'windows sucks' at least 2 times a day right?
20:55 <ivantis> not all days
20:55 <ivantis> and it does
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20:56 <ivantis> does windows even have any kind of way to do things without a GUI? besides that crummy DOS box thing
20:57 <PinkTomato> I think they improved it for Vista,
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20:57 <ivantis> there are way too many occasions at my school (which uses windows) where "the computers wont let people on" or "these ones are acting up" or "this doesnt work"
20:57 <ivantis> never happened to me except on windows
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20:57 <_anidnmeno> hello all
20:58 <madmax> my point was that you repeat yourself a lot
20:58 <ivantis> Ratchet: did you even read the reply?
20:58 <PinkTomato> Ratchet_Arma: on linux?
20:58 <ivantis> im looking at the link he posted
20:58 <ivantis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870634
20:58 <madmax> woo, FC Porto scores the second :-D
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21:01 <Rat_Tron> ugh
21:01 <Rat_Tron> I think I know why its doing this.
21:01 <ivantis> dude
21:01 <Acromatic> sweet
21:01 <ivantis> did you even read the reply?
21:01 <ivantis> ??????
21:02 <ivantis> he said a solution
21:02 <Rat_Tron> I just tried it..
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21:02 <Acromatic> whats mine say?
21:02 <Rat_Tron> it takes the code but it... er... does nothiing
21:02 <ivantis> F4 and all that?
21:02 <Rat_Tron> f4 types E
21:02 <Rat_Tron> f6 types ~ and it says
21:02 <ivantis> …
21:03 <Rat_Tron> permission denied
21:03 <ivantis> turn num-lock on
21:03 <ivantis> i think
21:03 <Rat_Tron> I don't have a.. er
21:03 <ivantis> or scroll lock
21:03 <ivantis> both of em
21:03 <Rat_Tron> I'm on laptop
21:03 <Rat_Tron> no keypad
21:03 <ivantis> i know
21:03 <Rat_Tron> I can do scroll lock
21:03 <ivantis> you dont need a keypad
21:03 <ivantis> do num lock and scroll lock
21:03 <Rat_Tron> I have no num lock
21:03 <ivantis> you still have num lock on laptops
21:04 <ivantis> you dont need the keypad
21:04 <Rat_Tron> not mine.
21:04 <Rat_Tron> I swear only scroll lock and caps lock
21:04 <ivantis> arent there like tiny numbers next to some of the letters?
21:04 <Rat_Tron> that's Fn key and that, but no num one.
21:04 <ivantis> doh
21:04 <Rat_Tron> I have fn scroll to turn on scroll lock
21:04 <PinkTomato> I'm suprised that you even have a scroll lock
21:04 <ivantis> hold Fn while you press the F-keys
21:04 <ivantis> hold Fn while you press the F-keys**
21:05 <PinkTomato> Does your laptop have 1,2,3 on the letter keys?
21:05 <Rat_Tron> they all have a picture on them
21:05 <ivantis> it stands for "FunctioN"
21:05 <Rat_Tron> yes
21:05 <luke-jr> stfu ivantis
21:05 <ivantis> …
21:05 <ivantis> his daily "stfu"
21:05 <ivantis> ratchet, dude
21:05 <ivantis> try the Fn thing
21:05 <luke-jr> DO IT
21:05 <PinkTomato> On a laptop num lock is sometimes an icon that makes no sense
21:05 <Rat_Tron> it does have numbers on some
21:06 <ivantis> yeah
21:06 <Rat_Tron> I swear to fn god
21:06 <PinkTomato> looks a bit like a keyboard
21:06 <ivantis> dude
21:06 <Rat_Tron> theres NO num lock
21:06 <luke-jr> GET THIS
21:06 <Rat_Tron> there wouuld be a light for it
21:06 <Rat_Tron> DING DING
21:06 <ivantis> just flipping hold Fn while you press the F-keys
21:06 <luke-jr> I have a real non-Fn Scroll Lock key on my laptop
21:06 <Monkey_arma> there are no lights on my keyboard ratchet
21:06 <Rat_Tron> i do too luke
21:06 <Rat_Tron> it says Scroll
21:06 <PinkTomato> what is yr laptop model and number?
21:06 <Rat_Tron> but dont work
21:06 <luke-jr> mine sez ScrLk
21:06 <Rat_Tron> Presario C300
21:07 <Rat_Tron> same
21:07 <ivantis> just flipping hold Fn while you press the F-keys
21:07 <Rat_Tron> like
21:07 <Rat_Tron> luke*
21:07 <ivantis> as i said
21:07 <Rat_Tron> I DID
21:07 <ivantis> Ratchet: just try that?????
21:07 <ivantis> oh
21:07 <ivantis> and have scroll lock on
21:07 <luke-jr> STFU U NOOBS
21:07 <Rat_Tron> NO NUM LOCK
21:07 <Rat_Tron> god
21:07 <PinkTomato> http://www.kbprotector.com/bookpic/Z033-4.jpg
21:07 <PinkTomato> that yr keyboard?
21:07 <ivantis> and have scroll lock on
21:08 <Rat_Tron> No pink
21:08 <Rat_Tron> wait
21:08 <Rat_Tron> yes
21:08 <Rat_Tron> it is
21:08 <Rat_Tron> just a er
21:08 <luke-jr> GO TO #ANIME
21:08 <Rat_Tron> english
21:08 <Rat_Tron> not those fancy keys on the top right
21:08 <Rat_Tron> of numbers
21:08 <ivantis> not the asian script on it?
21:09 <Rat_Tron> correct instead its the keypad in top right keys
21:09 <luke-jr> Rat_ivantis: STFU
21:09 <Rat_Tron> luke suck it
21:09  * luke-jr chops it off
21:09 <Rat_Tron> thats what my keys at top of f keys are
21:09 <Rat_Tron> ivantis
21:09 <PinkTomato> I suppose the scroll key is different?
21:09 <Rat_Tron> no num lock
21:09 <Rat_Tron> like i said
21:09 <ivantis> scroll lock
21:09 <PinkTomato> so weird...
21:10 <ivantis> not num lock
21:10 <Rat_Tron> roflmao
21:10 <Rat_Tron> i seee
21:10 <Rat_Tron> its
21:10 <Rat_Tron> scroll lock and num
21:10 <Rat_Tron> in same spot
21:10 <Rat_Tron> :X
21:10 <Rat_Tron> totally didnt see that
21:10  * luke-jr facepalms
21:10 <Rat_Tron> 363
21:10 <Rat_Tron> 363
21:10 <ivantis> well gee-diddly
21:10 <Rat_Tron> wtf
21:10 <Rat_Tron>  5ts 0a25ng
21:10 <ivantis> in the same spot?
21:10 <Rat_Tron> wow
21:10 <Rat_Tron> num lock er
21:10 <Rat_Tron> makes it show the numbers
21:10 <Rat_Tron> not letters
21:10 <Rat_Tron> wack
21:10 <ivantis> dude
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21:11 <ivantis> just flipping try it with the scroll lock on
21:11 <Rat_Tron> yes in same spot
21:11 <Rat_Tron> k
21:11 <Rat_Tron> brb
21:11 <Rat_Tron> try f6 with it on?
21:11 <ivantis> yes
21:11 <Rat_Tron> the whole thing wont work
21:11 <Rat_Tron> k
21:11 <Rat_Tron> brb then
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21:11 <luke-jr> try microwaving the laptop for 5 minutes
21:11 <luke-jr> that usually fixes it
21:12 <ivantis> did you hear that news story about the lady who microwaved her own baby?
21:12 <ivantis> it was two years ago
21:13 <PinkTomato> so Rat_Tron has not installed ubuntu?
21:13 <ivantis> he has
21:13 <ivantis> just doing something stupid
21:13 <PinkTomato> oh
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21:14 <PinkTomato> maybe it cannot find the image file on the FAT drive for some reason
21:14 <PinkTomato> or NTFS whatever :)
21:15 <PinkTomato> even so, that solution is a one time fix
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21:17 <Ratchet_Arma> the lock didn't affect F6
21:17 <Ratchet_Arma> at al
21:17 <Ratchet_Arma> all*
21:17 <ivantis> hmm
21:17 <Ratchet_Arma> it still showed ~
21:17 <ivantis> you tried holding Fn while you pressed it right?
21:17 <luke-jr> cuz ivantis is a retard
21:18 <Acromatic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV5CwY70duY&feature=related
21:18 <Ratchet_Arma> I did luke
21:18 <Ratchet_Arma> i mean ivan
21:18 <Monkey_arma> ah wait
21:18 <Ratchet_Arma> fn f6 locks computer
21:18 <Monkey_arma> what is the problem ratchet?
21:18 <Ratchet_Arma> built in shell thingy
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> initramfs or whatever
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> heres the story
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> When I first installed ubuntu
21:19 <luke-jr> FAIL
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> I was curious as to why there was no bottom bar
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> while it was setting up
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> so i clicked minimize window
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> and poof
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> so i waited
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> and waited
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> and waited
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> and just shut down when nothing was happening
21:19 <Ratchet_Arma> that must have f'd it up
21:20 <Ratchet_Arma> apparently it wasn't done
21:20 <Ratchet_Arma> :X
21:20 <Ratchet_Arma> I completely restored my computer after SOMEHOW getting a virus and it still aint working
21:20 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu ftl
21:20 <luke-jr> Ratchet_Arma: liar
21:20 <Ratchet_Arma> liar?
21:20 <PinkTomato> you can't blame ubuntu for the virus..
21:20 <Ratchet_Arma> I ain't
21:21 <PinkTomato> well
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> I think when i plugged into modem
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> I got a virus my sister had long ago
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> it must have been on modem
21:21 <PinkTomato> It sounds like the install is incomplete
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> yea
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> however
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> i just destructively restored computer
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> therefore NOTHING was on it still
21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> and I installed it
21:21 <PinkTomato> well then there is nothing on it
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21:21 <Ratchet_Arma> and its still failing
21:22 <PinkTomato> I don't get it.
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> some fella is telling me to back up /home/ because the installation was incomplete
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> or something
21:22 <PinkTomato> You format c:\?
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> nope
21:22 <PinkTomato> yeah back up /home/ to reinstall
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> how do i do that
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> -.-
21:22 <PinkTomato> but you won't need to do that as you have no files
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> I want to do it
21:22 <Ratchet_Arma> -.-
21:23 <PinkTomato> no you use /home/ to save files
21:23 <PinkTomato> your documents etc
21:23 <Ratchet_Arma> just tell me where it is
21:23 <Ratchet_Arma> -.-
21:23 <PinkTomato> and if you haven't used ubuntu it'll be empty
21:23 <Acromatic> We're still alive and kicking! - Jan 16th, 2008
21:23 <Ratchet_Arma> the thing is
21:23 <Ratchet_Arma> I DID GET ON IT
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> for about 5 minutes
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> then swapped back
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> to windows to set up internet
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> after trying for a while
21:24 <Acromatic> boy somebody doesn't like to update often
21:24 <PinkTomato> how did you wipe yr computer?
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> then it crapped up when i tried turning it on again
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> f11 on startup
21:24 <Ratchet_Arma> destructive recovery, factory settings
21:24 <PinkTomato> right OK
21:25 <PinkTomato> now you set up everything again in windows right?
21:25 <Ratchet_Arma> yes
21:25 <PinkTomato> and started to reinstall ubuntu?
21:25 <Ratchet_Arma> I installed it, and opened it and same thing
21:25 <PinkTomato> same thing as before?
21:25 <Ratchet_Arma> correct
21:25 <Ratchet_Arma> still that error
21:26 <Ratchet_Arma> what gets me, though, is that it worked the first time
21:26 <PinkTomato> and at that point the install succeeded while still in windows?
21:26 <Ratchet_Arma> yes
21:26 <PinkTomato> maybe you should unistall and reinstall
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> am doing that right now
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> i will do it the boot up way this time
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> sigh
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> ok brb
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> wish me luck
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> bitch
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> !
21:27 <Ratchet_Arma> <3
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21:38 <ct|kyle> epsy: You suck
21:39 <epsy> bloocks, ivantis chatted too much
21:39 <epsy> gah
21:39 <epsy> uhm
21:39 <ivantis> huh?
21:39 <epsy> ct|kyle, [vectron] config.h pl0x ?
21:40 <ct|kyle> epsy: http://rafb.net/p/u0ABuo57.html
21:40 <epsy> and..full error?
21:41 <ct|kyle> i'll just give you all of make, it is short
21:41 <epsy> paste
21:41 <epsy> [on a pastebin!]
21:41 <ct|kyle> http://rafb.net/p/mL4zFJ68.html
21:41 <hoop> ct|kyle, may you try to download the complete source
21:42 <hoop> I mean not to update the one you have already
21:42 <ct|kyle> hoop: trying
21:43 <hoop> I've kind of messed up the branches trying the merge command, I think that's the metter
21:43 <ct|kyle> hoop: that seamed to work :P
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21:46 <hoop> epsy, I think there's a merge feature, not only the voting systrem
21:46 <hoop> system*
21:46 <epsy> in bzr yes
21:46 <epsy> i just got t3h w0wz0r idea
21:46 <epsy> to get @x back
21:46 <ivantis> why do crontab files need a newline at the end of them?
21:46 <luke-jr> pl0x~
21:47 <epsy> @g newline end
21:47 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline - Newline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:47  * luke-jr pl0x on ivantis
21:48 <ct|kyle> btw epsy that was the wrong config.h
21:48 <hoop> lol
21:48 <epsy> hrhr
21:48 <ct|kyle> i just realized i was in the wrong directory
21:49 <hoop> @slap ct|kyle
21:49 <ct|kyle> .slap ct|kyle
21:49  * tronner slaps ct|kyle around with the dangerous, private zergling
21:49 <hoop> damnit I can't make one right with these bots
21:49 <K-Yo> .slap ct|kyle
21:49  * tronner slaps ct|kyle around with an open sourced endurance
21:50 <ct|kyle> lol
21:52 <ct|kyle> nice hoop, twisted little bear spawn points are correct :)
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21:55 <Ratchet_Arma> okay
21:55 <Ratchet_Arma> i am sure/99%sure this will/did work
21:55 <Ratchet_Arma> however partitioning issues now
21:55 <epsy> what are you doing?
21:55 <Ratchet_Arma> setting up ubuntu
21:55 <epsy> ah
21:56 <epsy> partitionning issues?
21:56 <Ratchet_Arma> I didn't realize you could resize the partition thing, and didnt like the other settings, so i hit forward, and i would uninstall if issues occured
21:56 <hoop> ct|kyle, what's this twisted little bear :\/
21:56 <Ratchet_Arma> however I realized you could do so and went bak
21:56 <Ratchet_Arma> and resized to what i want
21:56 <Ratchet_Arma> and now it wont let me partition and what not
21:56 <Ratchet_Arma> saying go back or continue
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> and then it aborts
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> it says re partitioning can take a while
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> i click continue
21:57 <ct|kyle> hoop: CTWF map
21:57 <hoop> Ratchet_Arma, you should write a romance bout that
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> "session has been aborted"
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> what you mean
21:57 <Ratchet_Arma> :x
21:57 <hoop> ct|kyle, ah
21:58 <Ratchet_Arma> can anyone halp? :X
21:58 <K-Yo> Ratchet_Arma: ctrl+C always work for me
21:58 <Ratchet_Arma> to do what
21:59 <K-Yo> anything
21:59 <K-Yo> on linux
21:59 <Ratchet_Arma> ....
21:59 <K-Yo> on win it's just by pressing the power button :P
21:59 <K-Yo> I know, ur welcoime ;)
21:59 <Ratchet_Arma> lol
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21:59 <Ratchet_Arma> I'll try again perhaps it will work :x
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22:15 <ivantis> finally
22:15 <Magnie> ok
22:15 <Magnie> lol
22:15 <ivantis> maybe something is wrong with mIRC
22:16 <ivantis> ive never used it
22:16 <ivantis> im using XChat
22:16 <Magnie> who are these ppl?
22:16 <Magnie> o
22:16 <ivantis> this is channel #armagetron
22:16 <Magnie> im using Mirc
22:16 <Magnie> mIRC
22:16 <ivantis> people who play arma
22:16 <ivantis> no
22:16 <ivantis> you are using Mibbit
22:16 <ivantis> not mirc
22:16 <Magnie> now
22:16 <ivantis> >magnie< CTCP VERSION
22:16 <ivantis> -Magnie- VERSION http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client : mibbit
22:16 <Magnie> who z-man-work?
22:16 <ivantis> dont tell me thats not mibbit
22:17 <ivantis> z-man-work is z-man, at work
22:17 <Magnie> o
22:17 <Magnie> o mibbit is different than what im using
22:18 <ivantis> no
22:18 <ivantis> its a mibbit widget on my site
22:18 <Magnie> im using the program
22:20 <Magnie> now what?
22:20 -!- Ratchet_Arma [n=Joshua@99-195-28-213.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:20 <ivantis> this is chat
22:20 <Magnie> this is more borring than arma
22:20 <Magnie> lol
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22:22 <Magnie> lol i have 2 users
22:22 <Magnie> V-B0T and Magnie
22:22 <Magnie> LOL
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22:23 <ivantis> well too bad
22:23 <Magnie> now mazer
22:23 <Mazer> :)
22:24 <Magnie> too bad?
22:24 <Magnie> for what?
22:24 <Magnie> ??
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22:58 <madmax> #sd clone
22:58 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (4/32): cT¤K-Yo, ed, hoop, madmax
22:59 <Monkey_arma> you missed it
22:59 <Monkey_arma> 14+ people
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23:00 <madmax> heh, thought so
23:03 <madmax> Finder decided to f*ck up when I was ready to play
23:07 <Monkey_arma> :((
23:11 <madmax> any european sumo server?
23:12 <Monkey_arma> whats wrong with ww?
23:12 <Monkey_arma> .ss ww
23:12 <tronner> Monkey_arma: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ww” at the moment, sorry.
23:12 <Monkey_arma> .ss wild
23:12 <tronner> Monkey_arma: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14): Blue BrainEaters (14): Rambust (4), #1stunna (0), 'Ssàgo' (0), ae (0); Gold FleshBiters (4): Nitric (2), just a bit (2), Funky Gorilla (0), HarryZtybetu (0)
23:13 <Monkey_arma> .ss west
23:13 <tronner> Monkey_arma: Wild West  =Sumo= (8/14): PLAYERS (1): ~*SP*~insanity (0)
23:13 <Monkey_arma> er no wrong
23:13 <Monkey_arma> .sl west
23:13 <Monkey_arma> .ffs
23:14 <Monkey_arma> .ss west
23:14 <tronner> Monkey_arma: Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14):
23:14 <Monkey_arma> hrmf
23:14 <Monkey_arma> bug
23:15 <Monkey_arma> .ls west
23:15 <tronner> Monkey_arma: timed out
23:15 <Monkey_arma> #servers
23:15 <armabot> Monkey_arma: This data is 6 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (8/16), {Delicious Desserts} Capture The Flag Shooting (6/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (5/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (5/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (5/10), {Delicious (1 more message)
23:20 <ivantis> luke-jr: you there?
23:21 <luke-jr> NO
23:21 <luke-jr> I AM NOT FSCKING HERE
23:21 <luke-jr> STFU
23:21 <luke-jr> khxbai
23:21 <luke-jr> kthxbai*
23:21 <epsy> let's hope my mouse cursor wont be at the wrong place at the wrong moment
23:21 <ivantis> how do i make on of those kind of files that i can use with make?
23:22 <luke-jr> SEE
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23:27 <madmax> Monkey_arma: WW seems pretty messed to me "lately"
23:28 <hoop> ivantis, good luck oO http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/automake/automake_toc.html#SEC_Contents
23:32 <Monkey_arma> messed as in lag?
23:33 <epsy> $ echo $[100000000000000000000000000000000000000]
23:33 <epsy> 687399551400673280
23:33 <epsy> my next commit message fails, because of that
23:33 <Monkey_arma> ok now euro server is up
23:33 <Monkey_arma> ctos
23:33  * epsy needs a better calculator
23:37 <epsy> so, it's not 21797296784 years you can wait for the dz/wz, but 3.171 .10^30 years
23:37 <epsy> zomg l33t
23:38 <epsy> but wait, match time limit is an int :(
23:49 <hoop> seems that in some matches in the future they will spawn some zones from the past uh
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23:53 <madmax> Monkey_arma: yeah, lag
23:55 <epsy> hoop, what madmax said
23:56 <madmax> huh?

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00:08 <Monkey_arma> bhangra + jungle = noo
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00:20 <madmax> who the hell listens to bhangra?
00:26 <hoop> orly?
00:27 <Monkey_arma> *not* me
00:28 <hoax> got no asian mates?
00:29 <Monkey_arma> u like bhangra?
00:29 <Monkey_arma> indian food ftw
00:29 <Monkey_arma> indian music ftl
00:30 <Monkey_arma> btw hoax.....all your base are belong to us
00:30 <hoax> didnt say i listened to bhangra
00:30 <hoax> Monkey_arma all your bass is belong to moi
00:31 <Monkey_arma> its a tron joke nvm
00:32 <hoax> tron joke, teh whole internets joke
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00:37 <Acromatic> it's not even related to tron
00:37 <Acromatic> at all
00:37 <Acromatic> it's from commander keen
00:38 <Acromatic> 3 I think
00:38 <Acromatic> idk never played it myself
00:38 <epsy> firefox just saved me from wasting another hour reading stupid stories
00:38 <epsy> ..by crashing
00:38 <Acromatic> lol
00:38 <epsy> nighty
00:38 <Acromatic> firefox is awsome for that
00:38 <Acromatic> peace dude
00:38 <epsy> just realized it
00:38 <Monkey_arma> i was saying it in the context of tron and fort bases
00:39 <Monkey_arma> wake up
00:39 <Acromatic> I only read one line.. was playing the game
00:39 <epsy> and actually i'm not using anything branded "firefox" anymore
00:39 <Acromatic> lol
00:39 <Acromatic> I never went faux
00:39 <Acromatic> piece of shit
00:39 <epsy> mozilla says "firefox" is more stable than anything else not branded firefox
00:39 <Acromatic> lol and they lie
00:39 <Monkey_arma> firefox concerns me
00:39 <epsy> trough it just screws up everytime in a strange manner now
00:39 <Monkey_arma> its crashing
00:40 <Monkey_arma> a lot
00:40 <madmax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us
00:40 <Acromatic> there isn't even a way to be sure of that
00:40 <epsy> swiftfox builds ftw
00:40 <madmax> from Zero Wing
00:40 <Acromatic> unless everything else is a total piece of unstable garbage
00:40 <Acromatic> zero wing.. whatever
00:40 <Acromatic> never played the imported trash
00:40 <epsy> zero wing..
00:40 <epsy> zerowing.idsoftware.com ?
00:40 <Acromatic> never owned a dos machine
00:41 <Acromatic> just because it's id software doesn't mean it's american made
00:41 <Acromatic> thats the whole point
00:41 <hoax> madmax u still on a dnb flex
00:41 <Acromatic> it was a shitty translation
00:41 <epsy> idk, zerowing.idsoftware.com is just a portal to id's linux/opensource works
00:41 <Acromatic> oh
00:42 <Acromatic> then why did you mention it?
00:42 <epsy> (including gtkradiant)
00:42 <epsy> that's the first and only thing zero wing made me think of
00:42 <Acromatic> oh
00:42 <madmax> hoax: been listening to Back of Beyond, Nu Tone
00:42 <Acromatic> well thanks for spewing your raw thoughts
00:42 <Acromatic> lol
00:43 <madmax> hoax: very randomly though :P
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00:43 <_Ratchet> Er
00:43 <_Ratchet> Fixed it!
00:43  * epsy pumps a bit to get his thoughts on a higher level
00:43 <epsy> Good night!
00:43 <epsy> ah..
00:43 <hoax> ah, good man, say hello wave goodbye ftw :D
00:43 <_Ratchet> now all i have is a few internet setup things, and I got a linux :)
00:43 <epsy> alright
00:43 <hoax> nn pepsi
00:43 <Acromatic> uh... yeah lol thats not gonna work
00:44 <Acromatic> epsy thats the problem I'd assume
00:44 <hoax> can i haz a linux _Ratchet?
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00:44 <Monkey_arma> hoax, 君達の基地は がいただいた
00:44 <_Ratchet> idk can you hoax?
00:44 <madmax> hoax: system is pretty nice too
00:45 <_Ratchet> my dads good with computers and stuff so he fixed my computer
00:45 <hoax> Monkey_arma: ??
00:46 <_Ratchet> monkey
00:46 <_Ratchet> your message was
00:46 <_Ratchet> 君達の基地は がいただいた
00:46 <hoax> aye max
00:47 <ivantis> 君達の基地は がいただいた?
00:47 <ivantis> what that mean?
00:47 <_Ratchet> i duno
00:48 <hoax> max - http://0daymusiq.blogspot.com/2008/07/logistics-realitycheckpoint-nhs134cd.html
00:48 <ivantis> ?
00:48 <hoax> moar liquid
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00:48 <Monkey_arma> hoax it translates to "arr ovva yorra base arr a berrongar to a us a"
00:49 <Acromatic> are u still going on about that?
00:49 <hoax> ahh wealy, i don speaka ina engrish sowwy
00:50 <Acromatic> teabot.. tea.. now damn it
00:50  * Acromatic slams teabot into a wall
00:52 <Monkey_arma> cup-of-tea-please
00:52 <Monkey_arma> .cup-of-tea-please
00:52 <Monkey_arma> ]cup-of-tea-please
00:53 <hoax> .stone P4
00:53  * tronner gives 2 long and slim joints for P4 and z-man-work
00:53 <hoax> .pwn Acromatic
00:53  * tronner slaps Acromatic around to the ground and kills him
00:53 <hoax> #kill Acromatic
00:53 <armabot> Acromatic will die on Thu Sep 18 00:53:33 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by hoax
00:53  * hoax agrees 100%
00:57 <hoop> btw firefox never crashed here :P
00:57 <Acromatic> appearently one should never fuck with a teabot
00:58 <hoax> you know this now
00:59 <Acromatic> #kill The messenger
00:59 <armabot> The messenger will die on Thu Sep 18 00:59:07 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Acromatic
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00:59 <Acromatic> it should ignore hours
01:00 <Acromatic> considering the Internet doesn't use them
01:00 <hoax> arrow
01:00 <ivantis> doesnt http://www.bugsby.net/TronRevolution/index.html look cool?
01:00 <ivantis> but it only runs on windows i think
01:01 <ivantis> written in C# i think
01:01 <arrow> evening hoax
01:01 <arrow> ^^
01:01 <arrow> just returned from city with wosty
01:01 <hoax> wosty in fort today :o
01:01 <hoax> :D
01:01 <arrow> no way
01:01 <arrow> he is in bratislava
01:01 <Acromatic> ogrenizer?
01:01 <arrow> waas some faker
01:01 <Acromatic> is that english?
01:01 <Acromatic> supposed to be*
01:02 <Acromatic> ivantis... is that a typo?
01:02 <ivantis> is what a typo?
01:02 <Acromatic> ogrenizor
01:03 <Acromatic> on that page
01:04 <ivantis> oh
01:04 <ivantis> idk
01:04 <Acromatic> but yeah
01:04 <Acromatic> it does look cool
01:05 <Acromatic> I showed a friend this game
01:05 <Acromatic> and he said it'd be cool if it had ramps
01:05 <Acromatic> well there ya go
01:07 <hoop> is there a C function like sqr(x) ?
01:07 <hoop> = x * x
01:07 <ivantis> what would be the point of that?
01:08 <hoop> ivantis: shorten the code
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01:08 <Acromatic> make one
01:08 <hoop> sqr( verylongnameforavariable + anotherverylongname )
01:08 <Acromatic> as a define
01:08 <Acromatic> as a macro it's the same
01:09 <ivantis> that would be simple
01:09 <hoop> just wondering if there's one already
01:09 <Acromatic> it would be correct
01:09 <Acromatic> yeah there probably is something like that
01:09 <ivantis> void sqr( int number ) { return number * number; }
01:09 <Acromatic> idk it though
01:09 <ivantis> wouldnt that be correct?
01:09 <hoop> <just wondering if there's one already>
01:10 <ivantis> void sqr( int number ) { return number * number; } would be correct?
01:10 <hoop> not a void man
01:10 <ivantis> …
01:10 <ivantis> what should it be?
01:10 <Acromatic> yes invan
01:10 <Acromatic> ivantis*
01:10 <hoop> it won't compile
01:10 <Acromatic> as a void?
01:11 <Acromatic> why not?
01:11 <ivantis> should it be an int instead of a void?
01:11 <Acromatic> it can be void
01:12 <Acromatic> yes it should be int because thats what it returns
01:12 <hoop> maybe in C, idk. I'm using C++
01:12 <Acromatic> I'm using c++ also
01:12 <hoop> ivantis, if you want to return an int, the return type should be an int of course
01:12 <Acromatic> and it would compile as a void
01:13 <Acromatic> it'd just be extra overhead
01:13 <Acromatic> for no reason
01:13 <hoop> maparea.cpp:420: error: return-statement with a value, in function returning 'void'
01:14 <Acromatic> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cmath/sqrt.html
01:14 <ivantis> #include <iostream>
01:14 <ivantis> using namespace std;
01:14 <ivantis> void sqr( int number )
01:14 <ivantis> {
01:14 <ivantis> return number * number;
01:14 <ivantis> }
01:14 <ivantis> int main()
01:14 <ivantis> {
01:14 <ivantis> cout << sqr(2) << " is the number\n";
01:14 <ivantis> }
01:14 <Acromatic> pay attention
01:14 <hoop> no sense if it would compile
01:14 <ivantis> that returns a bunch of errors
01:14 <Acromatic> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cmath/sqrt.html
01:14 <ivantis> on compilation
01:14 <hoop> sqrt is square root
01:14 <Acromatic> no shit
01:14 <Acromatic> isn't that what you want?
01:14  * ivantis goes to eat dinner
01:15 <Acromatic> or the reverse?
01:15 <hoop> scroll up
01:16 <Monkey_arma> #include <iostream>
01:16 <Monkey_arma> wrong
01:16 <Monkey_arma> #include <iostream.h>
01:16 <Monkey_arma> correct
01:16 <hoop> no monkey
01:16 <Monkey_arma> no?
01:16 <Monkey_arma> has c++ changed?
01:16 <Monkey_arma> i must be rusty
01:17 <Monkey_arma> wooo
01:18 <Monkey_arma> its not void
01:18 <Monkey_arma> its int
01:18 <Monkey_arma> int sqr( int number )
01:18 <Monkey_arma> and also better programming to do this:
01:19 <Monkey_arma> int squareroot = number * number;
01:19 <hoop> lol
01:19 <Monkey_arma> return squareroot ;)
01:19 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:19 <hoop> squareroot is something else
01:19 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:19 <Monkey_arma> well choose a name then
01:19 <hoop> just square ;)
01:20 <Monkey_arma> jaja
01:20 <Monkey_arma> squarert ;)
01:20 <Monkey_arma> square_root ;)
01:20 <luke-jr> hey dorks
01:20 <Monkey_arma> hey fool
01:21 <hoop> Monkey_arma, square root is another math, x * x is juat square
01:21 <hoop> just*
01:21 <Monkey_arma> oh man i must be tired
01:21 <Monkey_arma> lmao
01:21 <Monkey_arma> fuck me
01:21 <luke-jr> hoop: it's not that simple
01:21 <hoop> no thx XP
01:21 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: get a wife
01:21 <Monkey_arma> of course its square not root
01:22 <Monkey_arma> maths is one of my strengths, you wouldn't so would u
01:22 <Ttech> What do you think of the LHC?
01:23 <luke-jr> who wants leaked materials?
01:23 <Monkey_arma> what is this lhc everyone keeps talking about?
01:23 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: black hole generator
01:23 <hoop> lsd?
01:23 <Ttech> Lage Hadron Collider
01:23 <ct|kyle> Ttech: i wanna go in the black hole
01:23 <Monkey_arma> what is a black hole generator?
01:24 <Ttech> lol why? be dead?
01:24 <Ttech> Monkey_arma, read up... its not supposed to generate black holes, however it very well may
01:24 <ct|kyle> no we won't die
01:24 <Ttech> ct|kyle, How do you know?
01:24 <Monkey_arma> ttech why dont you ever play the game?
01:24 <ct|kyle> Ttech: how don't you know
01:24 <Ttech> ct|kyle, I don't want to find out
01:24 <Ttech> lol
01:24 <Ttech> Monkey_arma, I do?
01:25 <hoop> actually I have a lil black hole in my stomach
01:25 <Monkey_arma> you don't?
01:25 <Ttech> Monkey_arma, I do
01:25 <Monkey_arma> under what nick?
01:25 <Ttech> The Doctor, not for a month or so
01:25 <Monkey_arma> i have a brown hole, will that do?
01:25 <Monkey_arma> oh you are the doctor
01:25 <Ttech> Usually
01:25 <Monkey_arma> why not play as ttech?
01:25 <hoax> .ls doctor
01:25 <Ttech> Because
01:25 <tronner> hoax: The Doctor has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. 2 hours 32 minutes ago.
01:25 <Ttech> Thats not me
01:25 <Ttech> >:
01:26  * Ttech cries
01:26 <hoax> ya
01:26 <Monkey_arma> hrm wtf?
01:26 <Ttech> someone took my nick
01:26 <hoax> theres one with weird lettering too..
01:26 <hoax> & hes german or smth
01:26 <Ttech> mmmmm
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01:39 <Monkey_arma> btw hoop i was right
01:39 <Monkey_arma> its include with .h
01:40 <hoop> no
01:40 <hoop> get a newer compiler
01:40 <hoop> /usr/include/c++/4.2/backward/backward_warning.h:32:2: warning: #warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <iostream> instead of the deprecated header <iostream.h>. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.
01:41 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:41 <Monkey_arma> so it has changed
01:41 <Monkey_arma> omg
01:43 <hoop> yea, like a billion hours ago
01:43 <hoop> + or -
01:51 <hoop> luke-jr, ever got this error with bzr push?
01:51 <hoop> Permission denied (publickey).
01:51 <hoop> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)
01:52 <luke-jr> hoop: I have never used bzr push
01:55 <hoop> d'oh!
01:58 <Acromatic> lhc isn't a black hole generator
01:58 <Acromatic> at least thats not whats it's intention is nessesarily
01:58 <Acromatic> it's a particle accelerator... the by product is a miniture black hole
01:59 <Acromatic> what you do is smash particles and detect what flies out of it
01:59 <Acromatic> it's used to discover atomic and sub-atomic particles
02:00 <hoax> its not necessarily going to produce a black hole
02:00 <Acromatic> heres the skinny
02:00 <hoax> if it does though they say it will be so small hawkins radiation will swallow it up...
02:01 <hoax> or smth like that :)
02:02 <Acromatic> it can produce miniature black holes in it's process.. which are known to dissipate immediately.. some science fiction writers and theories suggested that it might be possible for one of these to sink into the earth and expand into a larger constant black hole that would erode the earth from the inside out
02:02 <hoop> :oooo
02:03 <hoax> meh,the media love a good story
02:03 <Acromatic> exactly
02:03 <Acromatic> well it was a theory
02:03 <hoop> can i has a black asshole
02:03 <Acromatic> ...
02:03 <hoax> i get pissed with this whole credit crunch shiz
02:04 <hoax> if they just stfu, people would act normal & continue thier normal spending habbits, thus not making things worse
02:04 <Acromatic> I'm too broke to pay attention to that
02:04 <hoax> heh join the club :P
02:05 <hoop> watch disney's the black hole grat movie
02:05 <arrow> i thikn its only way how we can get some major discoveries
02:05 <arrow> u all the time need to risk
02:05 <arrow> to tak advantage
02:05 <arrow> take
02:07 <Acromatic> risk is a small part
02:07 <Acromatic> but risking the entire world isn't worth discovery
02:08 <arrow> nah it is
02:08 <arrow> :D
02:08 <arrow> anyway
02:08 <Acromatic> if there is nobody around to discover then no it isn't
02:08 <arrow> they are so aware of this prob
02:08 <arrow> they will try to avoid it at all costs
02:08 <hoax> calculated risks ftw!
02:08 <Acromatic> as far as lhc there was never any risk
02:09 <Acromatic> science doesn't work that way
02:09 <Acromatic> thats bad science
02:09 <arrow> and dont forget
02:09 <arrow> on fermi lab
02:09 <arrow> which is just smaller version of lhc
02:09 <arrow> working for years
02:09 <arrow> with some major discoveries
02:10 <arrow> so its not so new field
02:10 <arrow> its just in bigger size
02:10 <Acromatic> otherwise john hutchison would have gotten a billion dollar grant by now
02:11 <arrow> i dont think so
02:11 <arrow> i think its definitly good way
02:11 <Acromatic> you don't seem to think much at all
02:11 <arrow> it can brings us a lot
02:11 <Acromatic> does it?
02:12 <arrow> i think yes
02:12 <Acromatic> name one invention resulting from atomic colliders
02:12 <arrow> definitly they will not do any experiment which will have at least few % of risk they will destroy world hehe
02:12 <arrow> wait
02:13 <Acromatic> the only risk in good science is that of the complete unknown
02:13 <arrow> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermilab
02:14 <arrow> this is smaller version of that big collider
02:15 <arrow> and nothing happend there
02:15 <arrow> why u think that
02:15 <arrow> that countries who putted cash to lhc
02:15 <arrow> thats almost whole world
02:15 <arrow> would like to risk to wipe out whole earth ?
02:15 <arrow> its just medialized phantom
02:17 <arrow> that collider was so expensive that us stopped works on their own
02:18 <arrow> so i dont think they want to fuck it whole
02:18 <arrow> also when they are building that thermal nuclear reactor
02:18 <arrow> which can destroy earth also it will be thermal nuclear reaction of sun
02:19 <Acromatic> lol
02:19 <Acromatic> you really think they would risk destroying earth?
02:19 <arrow> defintly not
02:19 <Acromatic> ok then
02:19 <arrow> thats why i am not afraid of that lhc
02:20 <Monkey_arma> i think scientists are not as clever as they think
02:20 <Monkey_arma> most things were discovered by chance
02:20 <Monkey_arma> i dont think they know all the risks with everything they do
02:21 <arrow> yes thats why they call it discovery
02:21 <Monkey_arma> look at asbestos, ok things have improved since then but still
02:21 <arrow> how u would find something without any luck
02:21 <Monkey_arma> some people worked out or estimated what they would find
02:21 <Monkey_arma> like mendeleev
02:21 <arrow> u never can discover which u dont know if can exists just when u calculate
02:21 <Monkey_arma> so thats BS
02:21 <arrow> u need to go to unknown
02:21 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: true but they had to be smart to cross the right (wtf did that one guy cross to learn dominate and receive traits)
02:21 <arrow> to get something
02:23 <Monkey_arma> there is often risk but sometimes/a lot of times scientist underestimate risks
02:23 <arrow> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power
02:23 <arrow> this can destroy planet also
02:24 <arrow> and when they invented nuclear power they thought same
02:24 <arrow> i think
02:24 <Monkey_arma> personally i dont like nuclear power
02:24 <Monkey_arma> it was so unnecessary
02:24 <ct|kyle> look at mars they build the observation lab to run for 2 months they sided up extending that more because of the time it took to get the ice dumped
02:24 <Monkey_arma> was and is
02:25 <arrow> i think we need nuclear power couse he have so big energy consuption like never had before
02:25 <arrow> just look
02:25 <arrow> how many electricity u burn everydau
02:25 <arrow> everyday
02:26 <arrow> withou nuclear power that would be so expensive
02:26 <hoax> hope u run em better than the they do in ua tho
02:26 <Monkey_arma> do you know what small percentage nuclear power accounts for?
02:26 <arrow> :D
02:26 <hoax> -the
02:26 <arrow> there were bigger disaster in russia years before ithknk
02:26 <Monkey_arma> with just a small amount of investment in alternative resources earlier on, like wind, waves ,etc
02:27 <Monkey_arma> they could have avoided nuclear
02:27 <arrow> i dont think so they sources are still expensive by technology in these days
02:28 <arrow> before it needed to be rly costly
02:28 <arrow> that times
02:28 <arrow> we hadnt so good steel etc like now
02:28 <Acromatic> arrow is correct there is a very tiny slight amount of unknown risk.. or an incalculable amount of risk in anything
02:29 <Acromatic> but scientists spend lots and lots of time working out what they can
02:29 <Acromatic> and even years in legislation trying to prove things are safer then they appear
02:29 <arrow> yep
02:29 <Acromatic> as science improves the risk is reduced
02:29 <arrow> so if they will see its too risky
02:29 <arrow> they will make law not to do that
02:30 <arrow> i thnk
02:30 <Acromatic> it's possible that it increases
02:30 <arrow> true
02:30 <Acromatic> take nuclear power for example
02:30 <Acromatic> nuclear power is calculated perfectly..
02:30 <Acromatic> but it's still dangerous
02:30 <Acromatic> so is gasoline
02:31 <Acromatic> so is the sun
02:31 <Acromatic> all of which is calculated
02:31 <arrow> yea
02:31 <arrow> but till u cant calculate it
02:31 <arrow> u dont know it
02:31 <Acromatic> tomarrow someone may accidentially discover a new thing.. like radiation.. which was a pure accident
02:31 <arrow> it exists at all
02:32 <arrow> i mean
02:32 <arrow> look for it from middle age
02:32 <arrow> they were burning ppl when they talked that earth its not flat
02:32 <Acromatic> you know how the Geiger counter was created?
02:32 <arrow> now we think that universe dont have end
02:32 <Acromatic> it was in the american gold rush
02:32 <arrow> hm
02:32 <arrow> dont know
02:32 <Acromatic> total accident
02:33 <arrow> hehe nice
02:33 <Acromatic> the universe doesn't have an end
02:33 <arrow> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak
02:33 <Acromatic> to me it's instinctual or obvious
02:34 <arrow> this was bigger prob then chernobyl
02:34 <Acromatic> nothing can exist in nothing
02:34 <arrow> but it passed out
02:34 <arrow> but then it is something
02:34 <arrow> couse
02:34 <Acromatic> to exist at all requires an infinite loop
02:34 <arrow> energy cant disapear
02:34 <arrow> it needed to be transfered to something else
02:34 <Acromatic> a loop anyways
02:35 <arrow> can be
02:35 <arrow> but still
02:35 <Acromatic> just like programming
02:35 <Acromatic> just like mathmatics
02:35 <arrow> its more spiral i thnk
02:35 <Acromatic> mathematics*
02:35 <arrow> couse u cant calculate nothing to 100%
02:35 <arrow> when u leave that 1% out
02:35 <arrow> u will never reach perfect circle
02:35 <Acromatic> spiral.. nice yeah makes sense
02:35 <arrow> so its spinning
02:36 <arrow> or how to say it
02:36 <Acromatic> it's curved
02:36 <arrow> yep
02:36 <Acromatic> not nessesarily spinning
02:36 <arrow> but it cant be same loop all the time
02:36 <arrow> it need to change by time
02:36 <Acromatic> look at all known ultimate equations
02:36 <arrow> couse its not perfect so it cant repeat
02:36 <Acromatic> PI and general relativity
02:37 <Acromatic> elliptical in nature
02:37 <arrow> yep
02:37 <Acromatic> planets are spheres..
02:37 <Acromatic> economy, society.. all of these things are loops
02:37 <arrow> couse of gravitation and that it attracts gasses
02:38 <arrow> yes in some ways
02:38 <arrow> but they are all the tiem changed little bit
02:38 <Acromatic> loops, switches, and constents
02:38 <arrow> u can see it how fasion is getting back after years and years but assimilated for needs of that ppl
02:39 <Acromatic> heh fashion is a bit of a stretch
02:39 <Acromatic> but yeah essentially thats the idea
02:39 <Acromatic> karma
02:39 <Acromatic> balance
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02:41 <Acromatic> play spore and you can gather how impossible something like time travel is to modern society
02:41 <Acromatic> tribes don't have machines for example
02:41 <Acromatic> it may be possible
02:41 <Acromatic> but you need a gravity generator
02:41 <arrow> i know what u mean
02:41 <arrow> i was thinking about that for long time
02:41 <arrow> its like we invented wheel
02:42 <arrow> but some of races prob never did this
02:42 <Acromatic> well thats a good example
02:42 <arrow> but they found some other ways to get similar effect
02:42 <Acromatic> without the wheel you don't have progression
02:42 <Acromatic> interaction
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02:42 <Acromatic> it's too slow to advance quickly
02:42 <arrow> hehe :)
02:42 <arrow> lately i was speaking with friends
02:42 <Acromatic> science is a perpetual system.. as you learn the simpler things you work up to the advanced stuff
02:43 <arrow> and there is also some prob
02:43 <Acromatic> aliens might not have flash lights.. but they probably have the wheel
02:43 <teabot> vectroncommits: [trunk] r3 improvements to the zones tool... || [trunk] r2 set x,y coords when creating a zone...
02:43 <arrow> yep
02:43 <arrow> also prob they never invented radio communication
02:43 <Acromatic> it's a key that unlocks oppertunities
02:44 <Acromatic> right
02:44 <arrow> so prob we will never be able to talkt to them or even to know about them couse we will never know how to look for them
02:44 <Acromatic> they could have found fiberoptics instead
02:44 <Acromatic> or something different or better or worse
02:44 <arrow> but u still talking about technologies which are based on our predictions
02:44 <Acromatic> prediction is based on possability
02:45 <arrow> and our seeing that physics
02:45 <arrow> yes
02:45 <Acromatic> light has a spectrum, radiation has frequencies
02:45 <arrow> but also some races could do all these processes by natural form
02:45 <Acromatic> these were waiting to be discovered not invented by man
02:45 <arrow> by genetic mutation
02:45 <arrow> we cant do it so we are using technology instead
02:45 <Acromatic> thats another good point
02:46 <Acromatic> they might have telepathy for example
02:46 <hoax> Fancy-Jr. Is that luke-jr's metrosexual cousin?
02:46 <arrow> yes
02:46 <hoax> lol!
02:46 <Acromatic> and not require external communication
02:46 <arrow> so they will never need to have radio telecomunication
02:46 <arrow> hehe
02:47 <Acromatic> a being with the power of telepathy would be vastly different.. more sociel and more intelligent
02:47 <arrow> so prob we will never be able to talk with them
02:47 <arrow> prob also our signals are passing their planet for long time
02:47 <arrow> but they dont know they are there
02:47 <Acromatic> because thoughts could be conveyed accurately
02:47 <arrow> its same with us
02:47 <Acromatic> not this monkey bumbling we are doing now
02:47 <arrow> :D
02:47 <arrow> u need to take fact we are monkeys :>
02:47 <arrow> i still can climb tree :D
02:47 <Acromatic> nah
02:48 <Acromatic> monkeys evolved along side mankind
02:48 <arrow> prob
02:48 <Acromatic> they are cousins not parents
02:48 <Acromatic> homonid
02:48 <Acromatic> thats where man comes from and monkey
02:49 <Acromatic> it's just that it's relatively new information
02:49 <Acromatic> 1996 to be exact
02:49 <Acromatic> the discovery of lucy
02:49 <Acromatic> the missing link
02:49 <arrow> yep
02:49 <Acromatic> now it's fact
02:49 <Acromatic> we knew before
02:49 <Acromatic> now we have proof
02:50 <Monkey_arma> where do i come from?
02:50 <Acromatic> among many other important discoveries
02:50 <Acromatic> you are related to the sea slug
02:50 <Acromatic> lol
02:50 <arrow> :D
02:50 <Monkey_arma> woo acromatic
02:50 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r888 winzone min rount/last death times are now REALs, allowing m...
02:50 <Monkey_arma> there was recent evidence with small humans that you may be wrong
02:50 <Acromatic> oh?
02:51 <Monkey_arma> yes
02:51 <Acromatic> please elaborate
02:51 <Monkey_arma> they still dont know shit about are exact relationship to monkeys
02:51 <arrow> acromatic
02:51 <arrow> http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14690-water-bears-are-first-animal-to-survive-space-vacuum.html
02:51 <arrow> this is interesting reading
02:51 <Acromatic> you mean the possibility of mutation rather then lucy being a part of the gentic chain
02:51 <Acromatic> doesn't matter
02:52 <arrow> so basicaly related to this article living organism can evolve also directly in space
02:52 <Acromatic> it only goes as far as proof
02:52 <Monkey_arma> they used to think that homo erectus and homo sapian were parallel
02:52 <Monkey_arma> now they are not sure
02:52 <Monkey_arma> they found totally different type of homo erectus recently
02:52 <Monkey_arma> tiny little men
02:52 <Acromatic> I have all the proof I need.. watch the documentary called walking with cavemen and you'll have the answers to evolution
02:52 <Monkey_arma> hehe
02:52 <Monkey_arma> if its on tv it MUST be true
02:53 <Monkey_arma> not
02:53 <luke-jr> Acromatic: evolution is BS
02:53 <luke-jr> kthxbai
02:53 <Monkey_arma> luke is cristian haha
02:53 <arrow> :D
02:53 <arrow> evolution rlz
02:53 <Monkey_arma> ye right mate
02:53 <arrow> thats why u can talk now
02:53 <Monkey_arma> christ made us
02:53 <Monkey_arma> or god or w/e
02:53 <arrow> lol :D
02:53 <luke-jr> yeah sure
02:53 <Acromatic> evolution isn't bullshit.. btw I have a lot of study on religion aswell luke
02:53 <Acromatic> watch that
02:53 <Acromatic> trust me
02:53 <Monkey_arma> tell jesus i want some bread
02:53 <luke-jr> good thing "evolution" prefers Christians over atheists
02:54 <Acromatic> you'll forget about those fairy tales luke
02:54 <Monkey_arma> er nope
02:54 <arrow> hha luke
02:54 <arrow> why u think?
02:54 <luke-jr> atheists have 2 or 3 kids at most
02:54 <luke-jr> Christians have 10+
02:54 <Acromatic> he doesn't think arrow he believes
02:54 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob christian vs atheist debate
02:54 <Monkey_arma> because christians are thick inbreds
02:54 <hoax> yeah & they all weak & hungry luke-jr :D
02:55 <Acromatic> luke
02:55 <Acromatic> who created god?
02:55 <luke-jr> God is
02:55 <Acromatic> no no
02:55 <Acromatic> god is a creator
02:55 <Acromatic> so who created him?
02:55 <luke-jr> God simply Is
02:55 <luke-jr> God was not created
02:55 <luke-jr> God is not creation
02:55 <Acromatic> ok then I would like to meet him
02:55 <Acromatic> can you arrange that?
02:55 <luke-jr> no, only you can, with His help
02:56 <Monkey_arma> as far as god goes, ok we cant say 100% its BS, but as far as the current religions go, we can...here is mathematic step theory to proove itt
02:56 <Acromatic> luke.. if god exists why did he create evolution?
02:56 <Monkey_arma> all religions are different
02:56 <Monkey_arma> different rules
02:56 <luke-jr> Acromatic: He didn't. atheist pseudo-scientists did
02:56 <arrow> i jsut rly dont believe there is any superior being with sueper natural powers couse when u look at it generaly it have big problem when humans invented gods couse they werent able to get that that is weather whats cousing their crops are good or bad and not that somekind of god who u willpray to him he will give u crop also this ppl when they would ever see soeone with flashlight or gun they would call him god couse they cant explain how he 
02:56 <Monkey_arma> but they all claim to be the word of god
02:56 <Monkey_arma> so at most only 1 can be right
02:57 <luke-jr> God is supernatural, of course
02:57 <Monkey_arma> which meanns that most of the people in the world are wrong
02:57 <Monkey_arma> (that have a religion)
02:57 <Acromatic> pseudo science is not the answer to why many herds of giant elk would simply run off of a cliff and be stripped to bone
02:57 <Acromatic> according to god
02:57 <Monkey_arma> so the probability is that that 1 religion is also BS
02:57 <Acromatic> man was not there to do this
02:57 <Acromatic> so obviously.. there is no god.. because this has taken place
02:57 <Monkey_arma> btw, God, cheers for cancer, multiple sclerosis, etc
02:58 <Acromatic> yes god is a wonderful thing
02:58 <Acromatic> to make so many suffer
02:58 <arrow> also couse of it there can be somekind of being which know far more then us about universe so he can appear to us like supernatural being
02:58 <Acromatic> better yet luke
02:58 <Acromatic> I hope god is real
02:58 <arrow> me too
02:58 <Acromatic> so when I go to heaven for being such a great guy
02:58 <arrow> i want to see that noob :D
02:58 <Acromatic> I can personally tell him to suck my dick for all the bullshit he puts humans threw
02:59 <Acromatic> now where is your god?
02:59 <luke-jr> bbl
02:59  * arrow agrees
02:59 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob ..we have blasphemy going on, quick join in!
02:59 <Monkey_arma> arrow you atheist also?
02:59 <Acromatic> actually luke there is a god
02:59 <arrow> sure
02:59 <Acromatic> and it's name is not jesus
02:59 <Acromatic> it's man
02:59 <arrow> i rly dont believe to somekind of supernatural being
03:00 <Acromatic> it's not a matter of believe
03:00 <Acromatic> belief*
03:01 <Acromatic> it's a matter of comprehension
03:01 <Monkey_arma> it is a matter of belief
03:01 <Acromatic> no it's not
03:01 <hoop> you don't need to believe in good, you need to know it
03:01 <arrow> u need to have some proofs to believe which i think there will not be ever
03:01 <hoop> *god
03:01 <Monkey_arma> as far as the current religions go they are BS, but we cant say 100% that there is not something
03:01 <Monkey_arma> not 100%
03:01 <Acromatic> if god wants me to believe and he made me in his image then I should be able to manifest an apple out of shear will
03:01 <hoop> religion is far from god
03:01 <Acromatic> I can not
03:01 <Acromatic> there is no god
03:01 <Monkey_arma> hoop are you atheist?
03:01 <arrow> yep
03:02 <hoop> I am nothing
03:02 <Monkey_arma> so agnostic?
03:02 <arrow> i want to see how religions will survive acounter with another race which will be far more superior then ours
03:02 <hoop> I don't believe in god, I know god
03:02 <Monkey_arma> you know god?
03:02 <arrow> looking like they know everythinh
03:02 <arrow> pity i will not live that day :/
03:03 <hoop> we all know god, just need to accept that
03:03 <Monkey_arma> ???
03:03 <Acromatic> athiest implies that you don't believe in a god or gods... I think the entire thing is ridiculously ignorant therefor I'm not anti-theist I'm simply intelligent
03:03 <Monkey_arma> what do you mean know god?
03:03 <Acromatic> you are theist aswell monkey?
03:03 <hoop> know, feel
03:03 <arrow> hehe
03:03 <Monkey_arma> i am atheist
03:03 <hoop> god is just a little word
03:03 <arrow> nice said acrimatic
03:03 <Monkey_arma> hoop?
03:04 <hoop> the meaning of that word is over brain capacity
03:04 <Acromatic> I used to be theist, then athiest.. somewhere in between I've been baptised both christian and catholic
03:04 <hoop> brain is only a little part of us
03:04 <Acromatic> personally if I were god I'd have killed me by now
03:04 <Monkey_arma> when you were theist did you actually believe in god?
03:05 <arrow> i just see religion like thing which came when we werent able to explain things to us and we needed to sort them somewhere
03:05 <Monkey_arma> i never believed in god
03:05 <arrow> so we created superbeings which rule it all
03:05 <Acromatic> I've read the bible in many manifestations
03:05 <Acromatic> I don't find peace I find contradiction
03:05 <Monkey_arma> hoop so can you just clarigy "yes" or "no" to god
03:05 <Acromatic> I find more people dieing in the name of god then anything else in all of history
03:05 <Monkey_arma> the concept of god is not the same as religion
03:05 <hoop> clarigy?
03:05 <Acromatic> I'm not athiest I'm anti-stupid
03:05 <Monkey_arma> *clarify
03:06 <arrow> and another thing almost all religions on earth have lot of common and similar ages of birth
03:06 <Monkey_arma> Acromatic have you always been anti-stupid ,even when baptised?
03:06 <Acromatic> yes
03:06 <arrow> so prob it was same thing what happend to ppl around the earth
03:06 <Acromatic> I was baptised as a child
03:06 <hoop> religions try to interpret god, but they mess up everything
03:06 <Monkey_arma> against your will?
03:06 <Acromatic> and as a teenager out of respect for a friend
03:06 <Monkey_arma> so i take it hoop believes in god
03:07 <Monkey_arma> ah
03:07 <hoop> I don't need to believe
03:07 <Acromatic> against my will? I was too young to understand the first time
03:07 <arrow> i see ur point hoop i think
03:07 <Monkey_arma> at any age i never believed in god
03:07 <arrow> monkey sometimes u cant choose
03:07 <Monkey_arma> unless i was a baby where my brain was not even functioning for me to think
03:07 <arrow> in primary school i had classmae
03:07 <arrow> and her parents where in cult
03:07 <hoop> you can't use your brain to understand that
03:08 <arrow> and she wasnt able to do anything
03:08 <arrow> rly anythign
03:08 <Monkey_arma> yes i understand
03:08 <Acromatic> I've always questioned religion.. but I'm not ignorant to possibility.. and I like to be accurate in my proof against religion
03:08 <Monkey_arma> but what you do (because you have to) and what you really believe are diferent
03:08 <arrow> now she live out of them
03:08 <arrow> and she left whole that thing
03:08 <Acromatic> religion is different then god
03:08 <Monkey_arma> yes
03:08 <arrow> religion sucks generaly
03:08 <Acromatic> and the fact that most don't understand that is enough proof alone
03:08 <Monkey_arma> for sure religion sucks
03:09 <arrow> like christianity ppl were ruling with it and they burned everybody inteligent
03:09 <Monkey_arma> only luke would disagree ...which only strengthens our case
03:09 <Acromatic> religion is useful to some
03:09 <arrow> jsutone thing
03:09 <hoop> you dont need to believe in god as you don't need to believe in death
03:09 <Acromatic> but a burden to the rest
03:09 <Monkey_arma> hoop?
03:09 <arrow> death is unstoppable like ur birth
03:09 <Acromatic> oh no death is a fact
03:09 <hoop> exactly
03:09 <arrow> it comes togather
03:09 <Acromatic> heh
03:10 <Monkey_arma> hoop you are saying the existance of god is a fact?
03:10 <hoop> yea
03:10 <Monkey_arma> hrmm noo
03:10 <Acromatic> ok hoop prove it
03:10 <Monkey_arma> you certainly cant prove it
03:10 <hoop> not that god they claim, I mean the real concept of god
03:10 <Acromatic> if you can't prove it then it's not a fact
03:10 <Monkey_arma> we understand
03:10 <Acromatic> by definition alone
03:10 <hoop> I can prove it
03:10 <Acromatic> ok please do
03:10 <arrow> guys gn nice talking
03:10 <Monkey_arma> we mean just a god, not related to any current religion
03:10 <arrow> hf here :>
03:10 <Monkey_arma> gn arrow
03:10 <Acromatic> night arrow
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03:11 <Acromatic> god schmod
03:11 <Acromatic> without others to influence you you'd have no concern about deity
03:12 <hoop> death itself proves the existence of god
03:12 <Monkey_arma> how?
03:12 <Monkey_arma> it proves the existance of life
03:12 <Monkey_arma> not god
03:12 <Acromatic> you would however drink water and breath air or die and all of that is science not religion
03:12 <hoop> same thing
03:12 <Acromatic> death proves god?
03:13 <Acromatic> umm.. how?
03:13 <hoop> depends on what you mean by 'god'
03:13 <Acromatic> the bible never talks about death
03:13 <hoop> haven't read the bible
03:13 <Monkey_arma> i think bible and god can be separated here
03:13 <Acromatic> with god you are eternal so how does death prove god?
03:13 <Monkey_arma> forget any current religions and scripture
03:14 <Acromatic> hmm
03:14 <Monkey_arma> he means just a force
03:14 <Monkey_arma> or being
03:14 <Acromatic> fine.. forget them.. and with them the idea of god
03:14 <Acromatic> because that is the source
03:14 <Monkey_arma> some people say about a life force
03:14 <Monkey_arma> that is inbetween the two
03:14 <Acromatic> a soul?
03:14 <Acromatic> lol
03:14 <Monkey_arma> newton tried to prove that life force existed
03:14 <Monkey_arma> but his experiment failed
03:14 <Acromatic> I can make a robot that appears to have a soul
03:14 <Acromatic> how is that different then you or me?
03:14 <Monkey_arma> soul is not the same
03:14 <Monkey_arma> i mean life energy
03:15 <Acromatic> where is the proof of a soul?
03:15 <Acromatic> may I read this material?
03:15 <Monkey_arma> hey i dont believe in life energy
03:15 <hoop> soul, god, etc are word that changed their meanings
03:15 <Monkey_arma> im just saying
03:15 <Acromatic> hoop
03:15 <Acromatic> what is god to you?
03:15 <hoop> have no words to explain
03:16 <Acromatic> besides elaborate delusions
03:16 <Acromatic> hoop
03:16 <Acromatic> I have those feelings also
03:16 <hoop> do you think your being is you brain?
03:16 <Acromatic> most of which were passed on to me by others
03:16 <hoop> *your
03:16 <Monkey_arma> hoop i do
03:16 <Monkey_arma> look at vegetable people who have brain damage
03:16 <hoop> brain is a little part of your being
03:16 <Acromatic> but I don't associate my own minds ability to imagine with an all powerful entity
03:17 <Acromatic> not anymore
03:17 <hoop> so a vegetable doesnt 'be'=
03:17 <hoop> *?
03:17 <Monkey_arma> hoop dont forget brain is both conscious and unconscious
03:17 <Acromatic> never really did
03:17 <Monkey_arma> both parts
03:17 <Acromatic> good point monkey
03:17 <Monkey_arma> hoop, not a vegetable, a vegetative person
03:17 <Acromatic> hoop
03:17 <hoop> scientists say that
03:17 <Acromatic> do you believe in alien abduction?
03:17 <Acromatic> do you think those people know something or are crazy?
03:18 <Monkey_arma> i certainly think there is a huge chance that other beings live somewhere in the multiverse
03:18 <hoop> never met an alien :(
03:18 <Acromatic> thats not what I asked you
03:18 <Monkey_arma> not sure about most ufo sightings or abductions tho
03:18 <Acromatic> I asked if you believe those people know what they are talking about
03:18 <Monkey_arma> i met an alien
03:18 <hoop> I don't know
03:18 <Monkey_arma> ~|DS|~Alien
03:18 <Monkey_arma> harhar
03:18 <Acromatic> exactly hoop.. so how is what you are saying any different?
03:19 <Acromatic> it's not hoop
03:19 <hoop> different from?
03:19 <Acromatic> the manifestation of god
03:19 <Monkey_arma> hoop he is saying if you dont know about aliens you also dont know about god
03:19 <Monkey_arma> you have no actual proof
03:19 <Monkey_arma> just feeling
03:19 <hoop> myself is a manifestation of god, or anything conscious in the universe
03:19 <Acromatic> and feeling is known to be inaccurate
03:20 <Acromatic> both by scientists and religious
03:20 <hoop> I may say that god is the consciousness
03:20 <Acromatic> hoop
03:20 <Acromatic> do you believe in god because you think your body is amazing?
03:20 <Acromatic> divine?
03:20 <Acromatic> perfect?
03:20 <Acromatic> or forged out of perfection?
03:21 <hoop> I said myself, not my body
03:21 <Acromatic> you are your body hoop
03:21 <Acromatic> your mind is a machine
03:21 <hoop> that's what you think
03:21 <Acromatic> a very well constructed and slowly crafted machine nothing more
03:21 <hoop> because you think only using your brain
03:22 <Acromatic> is there another way to think?
03:22 <Monkey_arma> i think we have a problem in that hoop does not necessarily believe in god in the traditional sense
03:22 <hoop> sure
03:22 <Acromatic> let me barrow your brain and then lets ask these same questions
03:22 <Monkey_arma> hoop you are sounding a bit like believing in some kind of life force/energy
03:22 <Acromatic> see how well you do
03:22 <Acromatic> bet you ten bucks all you do is die
03:23 <hoop> I need my brain, as well as I need my heart
03:23 <Acromatic> hoop is acting on feeling alone.. he has manifested an alternate reality.. in psychology thats called diversion.. and this is exactly why religion is dangerous
03:23 <Acromatic> hoop if your god is so great
03:23 <hoop> psychology is dangerous
03:24 <Acromatic> why does he make me hate and distrust your judgement on this particular subject? or is that because I'm a lost child? or whatever fanciful idea you can imagine
03:24 <hoop> psycholgy tries to explain things that are unexplainable
03:24 <hoop> that's not god, that's you
03:24 <Acromatic> well first of all
03:24 <hoop> god does nothing
03:24 <Acromatic> you've construed god to meaning nothing already
03:25 <hoop> that's the point
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03:25 <hoop> it does mean nothing because brain itself can't handle that meaning
03:25 <Acromatic> I have no basis of argument because you don't.. you're caught in a perpetual mental trap you'll possibly never escape from.. sorry for you that you have wasted your opportunity to be a integral part of mankind
03:26 <hoop> brain is the trap
03:26 <Acromatic> and where will that take you hoop?
03:26 <Acromatic> the plane of Asuncion?
03:26 <Acromatic> lol
03:26 <hoop> lol
03:26 <hoax> Lag is a myth. It is only in your brain.
03:27 <Acromatic> cut your brain out.. it's a disease
03:27 <cool-jr> GoOn this way!  No that way!
03:27 <hoax> go for it :)
03:27 <Acromatic> thats what you have said to me
03:27 <hoop> no
03:27 <Acromatic> yes
03:27 <Acromatic> you said the brain is a trap
03:27 <hoop> I said brain is a part
03:27 <Acromatic> it's our only flaw right?
03:27 <Acromatic> cut it out
03:27 <hoop> why cut?
03:27 <hoop> open!
03:28 <Acromatic> if you can still communicate in signs I will shortly join you in oblivion
03:28 <hoax> lol whos cool-jr :D
03:28 <cool-jr> lol whose hoax :D
03:28 <hoax> whose me? :D
03:29 <cool-jr> me whose?
03:29 <ct|kyle> #cool-jr_work luke-jr
03:29 <cool-jr> EXACTLY!
03:29 <cool-jr> you got it kyle!
03:29 <Monkey_arma> hoax aer you atheist or not?
03:29 <Acromatic> oh goody
03:29 <Acromatic> I have brought reinforcements
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03:30 <Acromatic> we will reform and educate you hoop
03:30 <Acromatic> we will save you from yourself
03:30 <Acromatic> from mental illness
03:31 <Acromatic> will you let me help you hoop? no water involved I promise but we will cleanse you :D
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03:31 <Acromatic> lol
03:31 <Acromatic> yes
03:31  * Acromatic marks another on the board
03:31 <hoop> I just got out of madness, don't bring me in back
03:31 <Acromatic> you did?
03:31 <Acromatic> so no more god business?
03:31 <hoop> "madness"
03:31 <Acromatic> you no longer believe?
03:32 <hoop> never said I believe
03:32 <Acromatic> oh right.. no you're still in madness
03:32 <hoop> I'm sorry, not me
03:32 <Acromatic> you know why they call it madness?
03:32 <Acromatic> because it's crazily frustrating
03:32 <Acromatic> for me
03:33 <Acromatic> it's calm and makes perfect sense
03:33 <Acromatic> I know you seek this hoop and I am here to bring you into the light
03:33 <hoax> what's an 'atheist' monk
03:33 <Acromatic> an 11 letter phrase for total insanity?
03:34 <hoop> that's the tipical reaction from a tarpped brain that hides the truth
03:34 <Monkey_arma> someone that does not believe in god
03:34 <Acromatic> no wait I got it.. it's a term for those that have taken reality into the incoherent
03:35 <Acromatic> nvm this isn't devils dictionary
03:35 <Acromatic> I think even they would refuse "atheist monk"
03:35 <hoop> they call it madness when someone doesn't accept the trap in which humanity fit itself
03:36 <hoax> cuz 'atheist' has its own lil culture now
03:36 <hoax> but im not a big god person no
03:38 <Monkey_arma> no it doesnt
03:39 <Acromatic> he means me monkey
03:39 <Monkey_arma> you told me that before and i checked...
03:39 <Monkey_arma> hehe
03:39 <Acromatic> I make a bad name for athiests because I challange religion
03:39 <Monkey_arma> atheist is just a word meaning you dont believe in god
03:39 <bitplane> which god?
03:39 <Acromatic> but thats ONLY if you consider atheism a religion
03:40 <hoax> yeah, but some ppl have created more around it
03:40 <Acromatic> such as?
03:40 <bitplane> i'm agnostic to spinoza's god, but an atheist to abraham's god
03:41 <bitplane> and a devout preacher of Loki
03:41 <Monkey_arma> atheism is NOT a religion
03:41 <Acromatic> I'm just a guy observing and conflicting with the effects of human isolation
03:41 <Monkey_arma> oo hang on, prodigy remix..i like it
03:42 <hoax> no it aint Monkey_arma, but some ppl are pretty much making it into one :/
03:42 <hoax> Monkey_arma, of?
03:42 <Acromatic> I'm all alone in the universe and I have no friends.. so I'll invent one to comfort me.. or just barrow that dudes idea and mix it up until I've created barriers nobody can argue because of it's inherent philosophical origin
03:43 <Acromatic> physics speaks to me
03:43 <Acromatic> god doesn't
03:43 <Acromatic> I'll go chat with physics for awhile god is boring
03:45 <bitplane> organised religion is just the corporate version of personal faith. some people like britney spears, others like indie rock bands. no different, everyone believes something
03:45 <bitplane> arguing over it doesn't make much sense
03:45 <Monkey_arma> bitplane its not
03:46 <Monkey_arma> religion claims to be the one and only true word of god
03:46 <Monkey_arma> 100%
03:46 <Monkey_arma> where as there is no one true and only music type
03:46 <bitplane> no, just the newer abrahamic religions
03:46 <Monkey_arma> what about polytheistic religions?
03:47 <bitplane> there's millions of other religions that go back to before the written word
03:47 <Acromatic> lol.. without religion nobody knows the word god.. yet these days most will not affiliate with a religion yet claim their beliefs not only authentic but diverse... something doesn't add up and it makes me wonder how these people count the pennies they rob from average believers
03:48 <Acromatic> sorry I think that was lots of topics blended
03:48 <bitplane> mostly tribalism using the feeling of awe to hold the tribe to some system of ideals, but also to hold useful stories
03:48 <bitplane> religion probably played a huge part in the development of language, abstract ideas etc
03:49 <bitplane> just in recent history its been about making your tribe as big as possible. worked too, you couldn't have large countries without a shared faith
03:49 <Acromatic> religion is the side effects of language
03:49 <Acromatic> it's the sharing of abstract ideas.. which formed from the only singular abstract idea we all share
03:49 <Acromatic> "the feeling"
03:50 <bitplane> belief systems, systems of ideals etc.. there's always conflict when a new one comes in. right now we have this conflict between dawkins-esque militant atheism and the old religions
03:50 <Acromatic> I'm going to make it my life's mission to create a drug to cure you of this affliction.. but I think thats what Prozac was for honestly
03:50 <bitplane> i reckon in the future we'll have new battles between new ideas
03:51 <bitplane> you suffer from the same affliction! its just different ideas
03:51 <Acromatic> I doubt it.. I think most people are sick of the battles already
03:51 <Acromatic> I think it'd take a long long time to create new things to argue about with everyone so distracted by the ones we already have
03:52 <bitplane> BSD vs GPL :D
03:52 <bitplane> linux vs windows vs macs
03:52 <Acromatic> then again that might be exactly what forces people to seek out new arguements
03:52 <Acromatic> so I guess religion ftw wtf?
03:53 <bitplane> religion = valid human expression. like monkeys throwing their poop around
03:53 <Acromatic> lol
03:53 <Acromatic> nice
03:53 <bitplane> or art, or music, or wordplay
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03:53  * Acromatic marks another check
03:53  * Acromatic erases mark
03:54 <bitplane> part of the cultural richness of the human condition. doesn't matter if its "right" or "wrong", it's just a bunch of ideas passed between people
03:54 <bitplane> you can enjoy it all like you enjoy a painting or a story
03:54 <bitplane> knowing nobody is right because they are just apes that speak and think in worthless babbling noises
03:56 <Acromatic> ugh
03:56 <bitplane> you need to reject bigoted atheism too though, so you can enjoy that as just another more advanced argument put forth by apes who don't know jack shit
03:57 <Acromatic> I know giant elk don't cliff dive
03:57  * bitplane will stfu now
03:57 <Acromatic> reject it all you like
03:57 <Acromatic> pretty sure I'm right though
03:57 <bitplane> thats the point, everyone knows they're right
03:57 <Acromatic> I know religion says thats not possible
03:58 <Acromatic> the main religions for all you technicals
03:58 <Monkey_arma> i dont know im right
03:58 <Monkey_arma> i think im right
03:58 <bitplane> you need more self confidence.. i know i'm right ;)
03:58 <Acromatic> oh I don't know god doesn't exist I'm just pretty sure
03:58 <Acromatic> but I know the bible is wrong
03:59 <Acromatic> and I know giant elk don't cliff dive
03:59 <bitplane> i dont get the elk analogy
03:59 <Acromatic> watch walking with cavemen
03:59 <Acromatic> you'll get it
03:59 <Acromatic> you'll get everything at that point
04:00 <Acromatic> in fact
04:00 <Acromatic> I'm going to go find an online version
04:00 <Acromatic> :)
04:00 <Acromatic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jJgZO-I1kU
04:00 <bitplane> it's atheist propaganda?
04:00 <Acromatic> that was easy
04:01 <Acromatic> atheist? idk I guess it could be construed that way
04:01 <Acromatic> it's not really religion related at all.. except for the proof against it
04:01 <Acromatic> nope just a very informative documentary
04:02 <bitplane> well, that's kinda like preaching to the choir as i already believe all words are just worthless babbling noises made by people
04:02 <Acromatic> suit yourself your beliefs aren't a threat to me :D
04:03 <Acromatic> but for all you half believers
04:03 <bitplane> i already read the ancestors tale by dawkins, covers all "in and out of africa" theories and goes right back to the origins of life
04:03 <Acromatic> witness the true word of... god?
04:03 <Acromatic> just speculation really
04:03 <Acromatic> this is about facts
04:04 <bitplane> modern theists don't believe in the literal creation story anyway
04:04 <Acromatic> dawkins and darwin only got the ball rolling
04:05 <Acromatic> of course they don't.. because it was disproven
04:05 <bitplane> there are still philosophically strong arguments for christianity that don't violate any science
04:05 <Acromatic> so they jump to the next plan
04:05 <bitplane> attacking young earth creationists is like attacking cripples
04:05 <Acromatic> to maintain a hold on their monopoly
04:06 <Acromatic> I don't see it that way
04:06 <Acromatic> I see it more like healing the blind
04:06 <Acromatic> or educating a child
04:06 <bitplane> same way they see converting you to their faith
04:06 <Acromatic> I see science as exactly what religion has been trying to announce for the past thousands of years
04:07 <bitplane> because its all oh-so-obvious once you believe something
04:07 <Acromatic> it's just a shame they have lost all their faith
04:07 <Acromatic> I don't believe
04:07 <Acromatic> I know
04:08 <Acromatic> but yeah that is exactly what they say
04:08 <Acromatic> the difference is they are wrong lol
04:08 <Acromatic> and they are liars aswell
04:08 <Acromatic> and they know it
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04:09 <Acromatic> I'm not argueing religion because I'm trying to convert
04:09 <Acromatic> thats not really possible
04:09 <Acromatic> I'm just here to offer those who already know the constant they expect to exist
04:09 <Acromatic> so they know they are not alone in truth
04:10 <bitplane> http://www.mtnmath.com/implyh/implyh.html <- i'm pretty much sold on this belief system
04:10 <Acromatic> hmm
04:10 <Acromatic> I'm not smart enough to believe I guess
04:10 <hoax> bitplane wherebouts in the uk are ya
04:10 <bitplane> northwest
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04:10 <Acromatic> I know what I can see.. and I trust in some to bring me what I can not experience first hand
04:10 <hoax> Stewah :D
04:11 <bitplane> between liverpool and preston
04:11 <Acromatic> and that is why I take my own role
04:11 <Acromatic> to be the trusted
04:11 <hoax> up norf eh :d
04:11 <hoax> not a liv fan are u
04:11 <Acromatic> and to help assure the purity of that trust
04:11 <bitplane> you a southerner eh?
04:12 <hoax> yarp london
04:12 <Monkey_arma> bitplane what is your nick ingame?
04:12 <Acromatic> lol fight fight!
04:12 <hoax> not seen u in here before
04:12 <Acromatic> duke it out!
04:12 <Stewah> hrm?
04:12 <Acromatic> hahaha
04:12 <Monkey_arma> stewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
04:12 <hoax> Stewah wheres x'y? :/
04:12 <Stewah> I dunno
04:13 <Stewah> he dissapeared >.>
04:13 <Acromatic> monkey bitplane doesn't play this game
04:13 <Stewah> he's with that one crazy girl obviously :D
04:13 <hoax> importing more chicks I guess :x
04:13 <hoax> :P
04:13 <Acromatic> I invited him here to keep me in check
04:13 <Acromatic> I like to be spanked
04:13 <Acromatic> oops lol
04:13 <bitplane> monkey, haven't played online yet
04:14 <hoax> wrong chan? :D
04:14 <Acromatic> nah you can spank me sweety
04:14 <hoax> how u guys find this place
04:14 <Acromatic> :P
04:14 <Acromatic> I play the game
04:14 <Acromatic> how did you find this place?
04:14 <hoax> funilly enough..I play the game too
04:15 <hoax> unlike most ppl in here >.>
04:15 <Acromatic> wow really?
04:15 <Acromatic> no way!
04:15 <Acromatic> dude we should be best friends :D
04:15 <hoax> although the actually players are takin it back ;P
04:15 <Acromatic> we are indentical lol
04:15 <hoax> i know!
04:15 <Stewah> hrm
04:15 <Stewah> I wonder if I should start playing again :D
04:15 <Acromatic> whats yer beef stewy?
04:15 <hoax> dont be jealous stew u no u my no1
04:15 <Stewah> I want a best friend >.>
04:15 <Acromatic> hell yes you should stew
04:15 <Stewah> :D
04:16 <Acromatic> this game is da bestestest
04:16 <hoax> shoukdnt ur best friend be your missus? :D
04:16 <hoax> what servs u on Acromatic
04:16 <Acromatic> women can't be friends anymore then pets
04:16 <Stewah> pfft, she is my bestest bestest friend evar!
04:16 <Stewah> :D
04:16 <hoax> lol xD
04:17 <Acromatic> they don't have the intellect or a conscious
04:17  * Acromatic dodges frying pan
04:17 <Acromatic> primal creatures
04:17 <Stewah> >.>
04:17 <Acromatic> religion is right about them I think
04:18  * Acromatic feels a sudden pain in his mind.. it's ea.. it's eating me alive AHHHHH!
04:19 <hoax> gotta crash, peace ^^
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04:19 <Acromatic> I knew they had psy-chic powers damn fem fetales
04:20 <Acromatic> hoax I just started playing again today
04:20 <Acromatic> I play on low ping servers idc what their names are
04:20 <Acromatic> anything in the eastern united states region
04:20 <Acromatic> probably
04:21 <Acromatic> ...omfg I just realised
04:22  * Acromatic drop kicks teabot
04:47 <StickyNoob> awww i missed the blasphomy
04:50 <Monkey_arma> u sure did
04:51 <Monkey_arma> he's as severe as u
04:51 <StickyNoob> reading back i dissagree with him on many points
04:53 <Monkey_arma> like?
04:54 <Acromatic> really such as?
04:54 <Acromatic> I love watching people argue with the truth
04:54 <Monkey_arma> Acromatic he is a devout athiest
04:55 <Acromatic> pretty much :)
04:55 <Acromatic> oh him you mean
04:55 <Acromatic> same here
04:55 <Acromatic> sorta
04:55 <Acromatic> personally I think the labels are the problem
04:55 <Acromatic> once you give it a name it has weight
04:55 <Acromatic> god
04:56 <Acromatic> oh my god has bothered more people in my life then fuck you
04:56 <Acromatic> :/
04:56 <Acromatic> or was it jesus christ
04:56 <Acromatic> which is just a name
04:57 <StickyNoob> actualy maby i dont, i was misreading the section and i tohught he was saying athiesm is a religion, but i dont think he was
04:57 <Acromatic> definately not
04:57 <Acromatic> religion to me is nothing
04:58 <Acromatic> it's a term for an unspecified chain of actions
04:58 <Acromatic> every time I argue about god they have a different belief
04:58 <StickyNoob> ironicly its probably an evolutionary by products
04:58 <Acromatic> lol yeup.. it is so they tell me
04:59 <Acromatic> what really gets me is it's relation to intelligence
04:59 <Acromatic> the universe is ironic
05:00 <Acromatic> for me god is carrot top sitting on a toilet
05:01 <Acromatic> development has many levels though
05:01 <Acromatic> and that was towards the first
05:02 <Acromatic> symmetrical like god would have it... argh religion is a black hole
05:03 <StickyNoob> ive come to the conclusion i dont mind people having their belifs provided a few ground rules are accepted 1) people dont try to change laws on religious grounds 2) people dont expect their religous belifs to be protected more than any other belif 3) they dont try to change education based on religion
05:03 <Acromatic> and I'm a spaceship with ludicrous warp speed
05:04 <Acromatic> hmm.. are you american sticky?
05:04 <StickyNoob> no
05:04 <Acromatic> maybe you should be
05:04 <StickyNoob> why?
05:04 <Acromatic> because we don't do that here :D
05:05 <StickyNoob> i know you dont
05:05 <Acromatic> of course you do
05:05 <StickyNoob> hell UK isnt much better, we directly appoint members of the church to our government
05:06 <Acromatic> isn't much better??  wait a second did I make a typo?
05:06 <Acromatic> except little boys maybe
05:06 <Acromatic> hard to control that part
05:06 <StickyNoob> who is we? where are you from?
05:06 <Acromatic> lol
05:06 <Acromatic> america
05:07 <Acromatic> duh
05:07 <StickyNoob> ok
05:07 <Acromatic> in america even the religious agree that it has no place in government affairs
05:08 <Acromatic> and we even gave them freedom to be stupid so we aren't total bigots
05:08 <StickyNoob> does Bush agree with that?
05:08 <Acromatic> who cares?
05:08 <StickyNoob> true hes only the president
05:08 <Acromatic> fuck bush
05:08 <StickyNoob> not like his opinion matters
05:08 <Acromatic> lol
05:08 <Acromatic> it doesn't to me
05:09 <Acromatic> on that issue it doesn't matter what he thinks he can't change it
05:09 <Acromatic> not without starting a revolution
05:09 <Acromatic> on that subject I know it would happen
05:09 <Acromatic> anything else is iffy
05:10 <StickyNoob> but he does have influence
05:10 <Acromatic> so does hollywood and they are mostly atheist
05:10 <Acromatic> or at least agree on the subject
05:10 <StickyNoob> cut funding for stem cell research probably on religious grounds
05:10 <Acromatic> umm sorta
05:11 <StickyNoob> publicly said intelligent s
05:11 <Acromatic> mostly yes
05:11 <StickyNoob> *design is a valid theory
05:11 <Acromatic> well to some
05:12 <Acromatic> but most of the activists in this country are intelligent and atheist
05:12 <Acromatic> and would go crazy over that subject
05:12 <Acromatic> maybe not over stem cells which is still in heated debate
05:12 <Acromatic> and a new subject
05:12 <StickyNoob> so why is in god we true your national motto?
05:12 <StickyNoob> and on your currency?
05:12 <Acromatic> but as far as school or appointing say a preist to office.. no way
05:13 <StickyNoob> and in your pledge of aligence
05:13 <Acromatic> because when it was written everyone was religious
05:13 <StickyNoob> but you claimed you have a seperation of church and state
05:13 <Acromatic> just because it's a common belief doesn't mean that it's appropriate in certain areas
05:14 <Acromatic> we do
05:14 <Acromatic> by law
05:14 <StickyNoob> well that laws not working
05:14 <Acromatic> how so?
05:14 <Acromatic> nothing is done on religious terms
05:15 <Acromatic> the state isn't run by a church
05:15 <Acromatic> just a religious dickhead
05:15 <Acromatic> and sometimes atheist dickheads
05:15 <Acromatic> it's working as good as can be expected I'd say
05:15 <Acromatic> personally I feel like this nation is changing
05:16 <StickyNoob> other countries manage it far better(not UK)
05:16 <StickyNoob> look at france, now they know how to do atiesm
05:16 <StickyNoob> *athiesm
05:16 <Acromatic> people are becoming more educated and influenced by minorities they weren't influenced by before
05:16 <StickyNoob> or rather secularism
05:16 <Acromatic> namely atheists
05:16 <Acromatic> and the more scientific of the communities
05:17 <Acromatic> it's hard to argue with people that create everything you do
05:18 <StickyNoob> oh you are definately on the right track, the whole world is. generaly religious belif as been on a steady decline for hundreds of years. but dont fool yourself into thinking you live in a truely secular society
05:18 <StickyNoob> *has
05:18 <Acromatic> no I don't
05:18 <Acromatic> not by far
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05:18 <Acromatic> everyone I know is religious
05:19 <Acromatic> and they all agree it has no place in government
05:19 <Acromatic> here religion is diluted in most places
05:21 <StickyNoob> there are people who belive that the founding farthers concept of seperation of church and state means that the state cannot interfere with the church, it does not prevent the church interfereing with the state
05:21 <Acromatic> I think a combination of respect for the non-religious combined with personal knowledge that what they believe is truly not fact creates the acceptance of separated church and state
05:21 <Acromatic> yeah but they are dumbass hillbillies that nobody listens to
05:22 <Acromatic> I don't think most people believe in god
05:22 <Acromatic> I think most just believe in religion
05:24 <StickyNoob> i dont respect religious belif however believing in whatever you like is a fundamental right, so altho not explicitly respected i accept it as a persons right
05:26 <StickyNoob> anyway
05:26 <StickyNoob> bed
05:26 <StickyNoob> nn
05:27 <Acromatic> I respect ideas
05:28 <Acromatic> religion is something else
05:28 <Acromatic> it's a tool of power that needs to be destroyed
05:28 <Acromatic> like corporations that don't produce anything at all except act as an ignorance factory
05:29 <Acromatic> jesus christ superstar
05:34 <Acromatic> Babylon A.D.  - enough said
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06:42  * Lucifer is finally back
06:42 <Lucifer> well, sorta
06:42 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
06:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
06:43 <Lucifer> hey, can I borrow some money? :)
06:43  * Lucifer is $50 in the hole and having timesheet problems at work
06:43 <GodTodd> ummm i'd have to check to see what we can spare
06:43 <GodTodd> how soon would you need it?
06:43 <Lucifer> as soon as humanly fucking possible
06:44 <GodTodd> $50 we should be able to handle, i'd assume
06:44 <Lucifer> I've got $10 my sister gave me to see a counselor, and a few dollars extra that won't buy a pack of cigarettes
06:44 <Lucifer> and running on empty ;)
06:44 <GodTodd> if not we have some serious budgeting issues
06:45 <Lucifer> heh, I've got a program that can't help
06:45 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: you quit the smoking
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06:45  * Lucifer just discovered his stupid accountant's budgeting is broken
06:45 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I relapsed last week
06:45 <Lucifer> divorce is immense stress
06:45 <GodTodd> actually, karen just got paid like two days ago
06:45 <GodTodd> middle check is our "buffer check" so you may be in luck :)
06:45 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i figured you would with that
06:46 <GodTodd> Lucifer, you guys aren't fighting over custody stuff are you?  pretty much agreed on it?
06:46 <Lucifer> we're pretty much agreed on the settlement, I think
06:46 <Lucifer> unless she comes along and throws me a new curve ball
06:46 <GodTodd> heh
06:47 <Lucifer> that hasn't been a problem, really
06:47 <GodTodd> women *never* do that ;)
06:47 <GodTodd> my custody thing was pretty harsh
06:47 <Lucifer> heh
06:47 <GodTodd> you in a place now or still with your sis?
06:48 <Lucifer> well, my stbx isn't a bad person, and she respects and understands the value of the kids having relationships with both parents
06:48 <Lucifer> I'm in a new place, just moved in tonight
06:48 <GodTodd> good deal
06:48 <Lucifer> thinking of opening a bottle of wine, but that's a bad idea when you're depressed :(
06:48 <Lucifer> so I booted up my computer to see if there was an open router nearby, and I'm in luck :)
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06:48 <GodTodd> every new beginning is the result of an ending
06:48 <Lucifer> I'll find out from my roommate what I need to do to hook up into the right router tomorrow, or sometime
06:49 <Lucifer> yeah, that's true
06:49 <Lucifer> I'm depressed though because I talked to her earlier tonight
06:49 <GodTodd> that'll do it
06:49 <Lucifer> we just took care of business, no trouble or anything, even though there was some tension on both sides
06:49 <Lucifer> we did well this time :)
06:49 <Lucifer> but, see, I'm in the stage where I'm getting very angry after talking to her, and I don't like being mad at her, so then I get real sad that I'm mad
06:49 <Lucifer> it's a mess
06:49 <GodTodd> heh...my ex and i got *kicked out* of mediation
06:49 <Lucifer> fighting too much?
06:49 <GodTodd> yep
06:50 <Lucifer> as long as we can control our tempers, we should be fine
06:50 <Lucifer> we're both reasonable people, and we've stopped talking about how disappointed we are with each other
06:50 <GodTodd> yeah, i sometimes have trouble with that myself :)
06:51 <GodTodd> just make sure the kids are always out of the line of fire
06:51 <Lucifer> had I controlled my temper in a few places, this divorce either wouldn't be happening, or might have been reversed, I think
06:51 <Lucifer> yeah, we didn't do a good job of that when we were married, hopefully we'll do better when we're divorced
06:51 <Lucifer> we're setup to have one phone call a week with each other, email as needed (but limited as much as possible)
06:51 <GodTodd> i'm a firm believer that kids would rather be from a broken home than live in one
06:51 <Lucifer> she doesn't talk to me when she drops off the kids, and I don't talk to her
06:52 <Lucifer> actually, it depends, according to this book I've been reading
06:52 <Lucifer> if the divorce ends the conflict, the kids are better off
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06:52 <Lucifer> but if the divorce just leads to more conflict, particularly the escalations that can happen, kids are surprisingly better off living in the "broken home"
06:52 <GodTodd> well, yeah, obviously if you keep the conflict then the kids are messed up anyway
06:53 <Lucifer> that's what my stbx had with her parents, and why she's so hardcore about making sure we have a good divorced relationship
06:53 <Lucifer> we have to be good coparents, we don't have a choice on that
06:53 <Lucifer> and we're taking that seriously, and it appears that for now we've got our emotions under control during communication with one another
06:53 <Lucifer> so, the divorce is going swimmingly, and naturally I feel like shit :/
06:53 <GodTodd> mine ended up easy on that part...my ex hasn't seen our son since turkey day weekend of '04
06:54 <GodTodd> i just send my two emails a year offering visitation and that's it
06:54 <GodTodd> heh
06:54 <Lucifer> that could be a problem later for the kid :(
06:54 <Lucifer> might be right now, according to this book I've been reading
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06:55 <GodTodd> and don't go down the "if i had done things differently" road
06:55 <GodTodd> that road leads to madness
06:55 <Lucifer> I don't know if the feeling of abandonment is better or worse than continuing conflict after divorce
06:55 <Lucifer> well, there's always the implied "if she had done things differently" too
06:55 <Lucifer> it takes two people to have a bad marriage and get divorce
06:55 <Lucifer> always
06:55 <GodTodd> well...i'm in a special situation myself so if he has those problems i should have the expertise to talk about it with him
06:55 <Lucifer> in texas, those people are defined as 1 man and 1 woman
06:55 <Lucifer> you can relate, anyway
06:56 <GodTodd> yep
06:56 <Lucifer> that should help a lot, and it's not like nobody can have good kids in these situations
06:56 <Lucifer> it's just really hard, the deck is stacked against you
06:56 <Lucifer> but you can still pull a straight flush
06:57 <GodTodd> yep...but there are plenty of well-adjusted people that are the products of divorced parents
06:57 <Lucifer> most kids of divorced parents, apparently
06:57 <Lucifer> it's only like 30% of divorces that wind up in continuing conflict
06:57 <Lucifer> those just happen to be the horror stories we all hear
06:57 <GodTodd> and plenty of fuckups that are the result of continuously married parents
06:57 <Lucifer> yep
06:58 <Lucifer> kids are resilient, though, and as long as they have two dedicated and devoted parents, they should be ok
06:58 <GodTodd> my whole beef is the "stay married for the kids" crowd
06:58 <GodTodd> dipshits :)
06:58 <GodTodd> yep
06:58 <Lucifer> well, we were in the "try to work it out for kids" crowd
06:58 <Lucifer> as you can see, we're not in that other crowd
06:58 <GodTodd> oh, definitely, trying to work it out is just common sense
06:59 <GodTodd> staying with someone just until the kids hit the door at 18 is asinine :)
06:59 <Lucifer> man, I think I still want to work it out, and I think we can...provided *she* also wants to work it out
06:59 <Acromatic> whoa where did the god squad come in?
06:59 <Lucifer> but I need to be careful with that, she doesn't get all the blame for this
06:59 <Lucifer> there's no god squad here, is there?
06:59  * Lucifer wonders if luke's been talking during this conversation
06:59 <Acromatic> sure
06:59 <GodTodd> yeah, if she wants to work it out too i'd say go for it
06:59 <Lucifer> she doesn't
06:59 <Acromatic> lucifer and godtodd
06:59 <Acromatic> two gods
06:59 <Acromatic> = god squad
06:59 <Lucifer> oh, heh
06:59 <Lucifer> you're new here, aren't you?
07:00 <GodTodd> haha
07:00 <Acromatic> where the internet? no
07:00 <Lucifer> so, if you want to loan me some money, paypal will be the fastest way to get it to me
07:00 <Lucifer> Acromatic: this channel
07:00 <GodTodd> i can do that
07:00 <Acromatic> lol
07:00 <Acromatic> yup
07:00 <GodTodd> i've got an active CC set up on paypal
07:00  * Lucifer is a regular here, but has been absent for a little while
07:00 <GodTodd> i use it when i buy ebay junk
07:00 <Lucifer> paypal@davefancella.com
07:00 <Acromatic> hey I got paypal while you're handing it out
07:00 <Lucifer> I've got it linked to my current account
07:00 <Acromatic> lol
07:01 <Lucifer> but I'm $53 in the hole there, so.... (obvious implications)
07:01 <Acromatic> lucifer didn't you see our hours long debate about religion earlier?
07:01 <Lucifer> Acromatic: no, I just showed up here a few inutes ago
07:01 <Lucifer> too bad I wasn't here, I'd have shut it down :)
07:01 <Acromatic> thats odd you came immediately after
07:01  * ct|kyle wonders what an inute is
07:01 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's 1/60 of an our
07:02 <GodTodd> Acromatic, are you a friend i've had for 20 years that's having a rough time right now? :)
07:02 <Acromatic> luke might call that a sign
07:02 <ct|kyle> heh what is an our
07:02 <Acromatic> umm.. yes?
07:02 <Lucifer> luke hates me, why would he consider that a sign?
07:02 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: 1/24 of an ay
07:02 <Acromatic> our
07:02 <Acromatic> as in this is our time
07:02 <ct|kyle> what is a ay
07:03 <Acromatic> ay?
07:03 <Lucifer> 1/365 of an ear, or 1/366 of an eap ear
07:03 <Acromatic> idk what is an ay?
07:03  * Lucifer wonders if Acromatic is really as aware of conversations around him as he doesn't seem to be
07:03 <ct|kyle> booo  1/365.249...... of a ear
07:03 <Acromatic> isn't that what canadians say? ay?
07:03 <Lucifer> heh, but I couldn't make an eap ear crack if I did it *your* way
07:04 <Acromatic> nope not really
07:04 <ct|kyle> true
07:04 <Acromatic> I have selective vision
07:04 <Acromatic> actually I read that after
07:04 <Acromatic> I just assumed he was talking to me as he had asked me a simular question
07:05  * Acromatic wonders if Lucifer is really as aware of conversations around him as he doesn't seem to be
07:05 <Acromatic> I can only see in green
07:06 <Acromatic> sometimes red
07:06 <Lucifer> the thing I love most about long absences from this channel is when I come back and there's some new guy who thinks I'm the new guy
07:06 <Acromatic> I never said you were a new guy
07:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer, sent
07:07 <GodTodd> $200 enough?
07:07 <Lucifer> holy crap, $200 is plenty!  Thanks!
07:07  * Lucifer hugs GodTodd (hi there!) 
07:07  * ct|kyle needs to befriend GodTodd
07:07 <Acromatic> aww I want some :(
07:07 <GodTodd> np
07:08 <Acromatic> just mail me a dooby that'll be enough
07:08 <GodTodd> it comes of the credit cardd and we just pay it 30 days later :)
07:08 <GodTodd> all i have to do is tell karen your situation and she'll probably get mad for not giving more ;)
07:09 <Acromatic> wish I had friends like that
07:09 <GodTodd> takes 20 years and a bunch of shit for that :)
07:10 <Acromatic> my friends ask for "a hand" and then drag me onto a construction site and when I explain I have more important things to do they get angry and leave me stranded 20 miles from home :/
07:10 <Acromatic> with no phone
07:11 <Acromatic> it was a long walk
07:11 <Acromatic> lol
07:11 <Acromatic> and yeah
07:11 <Lucifer> let's see how long this "confirmed bank account" transfer takes
07:11 <Acromatic> it had been 20 years and a lot of shit
07:12 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: bob barr filed suit yesterday
07:12 <Lucifer> for what?
07:12  * Lucifer hasn't been following politics lately
07:12 <ct|kyle> to Kick McCain, Obama Off Texas Ballot
07:14 <ct|kyle> bob barr practically messed up his campaign the 9th and 10th, asked Ron Paul to be Vice president and then he did not show up for Ron Paul's press conference.
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07:17 <GodTodd> Lucifer, not sure how long it takes but ebay people always are pleased with how fast they get their money and it's showing on my CC account now
07:18 <Lucifer> paypal's already taken it, it's a question of how long it takes for paypal to send it to me
07:18 <GodTodd> yep
07:18 <Lucifer> normally it's 3-4 days for an unconfirmed account because they have to setup the transfer
07:18 <Lucifer> it *should* happen early tomorrow, though
07:18 <GodTodd> i've never received paypal payments so i'm not sure how long it takes
07:18 <GodTodd> mine's definitely confirmed :)
07:19 <Lucifer> it took a few days for me to get ed's
07:19 <Lucifer> but I confirmed the account and linked it and all that stuff at the same time
07:20 <GodTodd> hopefully it'll be fairly quick and painless
07:21 <Lucifer> it should be, my bank will be happy to get the money since it'll put me in a positive balance again
07:21 <GodTodd> heh
07:21 <Lucifer> I had charged some minutes for my phone, and thought it cleared, even saw a transaction that looked like it
07:21 <Lucifer> so I was sitting on $108
07:21 <Lucifer> then I registered my car for $100
07:21 <Lucifer> but it was a $20 minute purchase for my phone :(
07:21 <Lucifer> sucked a lot
07:22 <Lucifer> at least they didn't bounce, though.  My bank still paid them
07:22 <GodTodd> oh, i know how that shit goes
07:22 <Lucifer> but it charged a $40 nsf
07:22 <GodTodd> yep
07:22 <Lucifer> I *need* to do better, heh
07:22 <Lucifer> but now I'm in my place, I can get my affairs in order more easily
07:22 <Lucifer> I've got a buddy who's going to move in, too, so my rent will be $350
07:22 <GodTodd> yeah...the getting a roof over your head thing makes most other stuff insignificant
07:22 <Lucifer> and 1/3 of utilities, with the roommate that already lives here being a new friend
07:23 <GodTodd> house or apt?
07:23 <Lucifer> like brand new, met on craigslist while I was looking for a roommate ;)
07:23 <Lucifer> house
07:23 <GodTodd> cool
07:23 <Lucifer> the buddy that's moving in is one of the guys I went on my nasa trip with
07:23 <Lucifer> he was in my physics class last spring
07:23 <Lucifer> good guy
07:23 <Lucifer> so, my new roommate is 45, I'm 33, and my buddy is 23
07:24 <GodTodd> heh
07:24 <Lucifer> he got kicked out of his girlfriend's house at the beginning of summer and has been couch surfing since then
07:24 <Lucifer> so when I was suddenly looking for a place, he was an obvious person to call, oddly enough
07:24 <GodTodd> well, yeah
07:24 <Lucifer> I found this place, then called him and asked if he wanted to move in with me, hooked him up here and stuff
07:25 <Lucifer> my sister had a worry episode tonight when I was getting the rest of my stuff out of her house :)
07:25 <GodTodd> 3 bed house or do you have to put out? ;)
07:25 <GodTodd> worry? why?
07:26 <Lucifer> well, I moved in knowing I didn't have money for October's rent :)
07:26 <Lucifer> still waiting for income to ramp up, and it will increase a bit in the first paycheck in october, which is a week after rent's due
07:27 <Lucifer> being depressed off and on, I haven't ate much, so she's worried I won't eat
07:27 <GodTodd> ah
07:27 <Lucifer> wants me to come over once a week so she can make sure I'm at least eating that often :)
07:27 <Lucifer> that sort of thing
07:27 <GodTodd> big sister stuff :)
07:27 <Lucifer> she kept saying "I know you're 33, but I worry"
07:27 <Lucifer> she's a good big sister :)
07:27 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: a late fee is not that much though for only a few days
07:27 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's fine, two things
07:27 <GodTodd> ct|kyle, depends on the place
07:28 <Lucifer> 1) my new roommate is extremely understanding, having been through a nasty pseudo-divorce herself (broke up with a fiance, no kids)
07:28 <Lucifer> 2) my sister did write me a check for the rent, but because it's for the rent, I can't just stick it into my bank account
07:29 <Lucifer> so I've got rent now, a gift card to HEB for groceries, and GodTodd just gave me the money that should keep gas in my car, might buy a clutch, and should fend off other problems that may arise
07:29 <Lucifer> so it *finally* looks like I'll make it to October without having to live in my car :)
07:29 <ct|kyle> looks like it
07:30 <Lucifer> er, I forgot the part about 1.  1) so she is willing to front me the money for October's rent
07:30 <GodTodd> i tried to give a bit of a buffer for you...i know that i always liked having a *bit* of extra money
07:30 <Lucifer> but then I'm in catchup mode
07:30 <Lucifer> well, see, with my brother-in-law's dad dying of lung cancer from smoking, and me relapsing, to keep him comfortable helping me out, she had to do it in a way that prevented me from using the money for cigarettes
07:30 <GodTodd> i'm close enough to my "rock bottom" times to remember what it was like
07:31 <Lucifer> and seeing as how she was so proud of me quitting and so disappointed I relapsed, I think I don't mind her wanting to do that
07:31 <GodTodd> yep
07:31 <Lucifer> also, she's in arough spot.  She's been footing most of the bill for my brother's lawyer for *his* divorce, and her husband is unemployed right now
07:31 <Lucifer> this was really the worst possible timing for me to get a divorce
07:31 <Lucifer> just, all the way around
07:31 <GodTodd> ouch...i know how expensive that can get
07:32 <Lucifer> the only way it's good is that now I can apply to A&M seriously, because I'm not tied down anymore
07:32 <Lucifer> I still have to come back to see my kids at appropriate times, of course, but A&M is in easy driving range
07:32 <Lucifer> GodTodd: yeah, and *that* divorce is a hairy one
07:32 <GodTodd> yeah...it's when they're hairy that they get expensive
07:33 <Lucifer> my girl is happy I'll be able to go to A&M :)
07:33 <Lucifer> I'm just one letter of rec and a financial aid award letter from sending in my app
07:33 <GodTodd> cool :)
07:33 <Lucifer> (the financial aid award letter is to have the app fee waived)
07:34 <Lucifer> I've got three very strong letters of rec, and I'm just waiting for one more
07:34 <GodTodd> ah...i got around that by going to an orientation at UTD
07:34 <Lucifer> I don't think there's a way around it other than showing need, and a financial aid award letter from your previous school shows need
07:34 <Lucifer> for A&M, I mean
07:34 <GodTodd> right
07:35 <ct|kyle> well i'm off to bed, good to hear your in a house again Lucifer
07:35 <GodTodd> hell i had to pay UTD $137 to get a decent parking permit :/
07:35 <Lucifer> thanks ct|kyle (hi there!) ;)
07:35 <Lucifer> good night
07:35 <GodTodd> night ct|kyle
07:35 <Lucifer> egads, I hope I don't have to do something like that
07:35  * Lucifer is hoping to live on-campus
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07:36 <GodTodd> i wish i had had an opportunity to live on campus when i was younger
07:37 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to go in there and try to be a kid again ;)
07:37 <Lucifer> with two exceptions, obviously
07:37 <GodTodd> heh
07:37 <Lucifer> gotta go see my own kids, and won't do any drugs (except alcohol)
07:37 <Lucifer> and of course I'll have to mind my age around the youngsters when drinking
07:37 <GodTodd> and you'll study!
07:38 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and I'll get my fucking degree ;)
07:38 <Lucifer> I better, I'm sacrificing my marriage for it
07:39 <GodTodd> that was one of the issues?
07:39 <GodTodd> i know it was in my breakup
07:50 <Lucifer> it wasn't an issue directly
07:50 <Lucifer> at least, not nominally
07:50 <Lucifer> but I'm pretty sure it was an issue :(
07:56 <GodTodd> probably...i didn't know my schooling was an issue until after the fact
08:01 <Lucifer> well, it's been an issue that she always picks a fight with me right before finals
08:02 <Lucifer> I forced the issue finally, and nearly left her before christmas, and then she behaved for the spring just fine
08:02 <Lucifer> summer, not so fine
08:02 <Lucifer> but she spent the summer basically rejecting me, so....
08:02 <GodTodd> rejecting you?
08:02 <Lucifer> anyway, I don't know that I want to talk about it more right now.  Why we're splitting up isn't so important if she doesn't want to talk about getting back together, and I need to distance myself emotionally from her
08:03 <GodTodd> true
08:03 <Lucifer> rejecting me, doing all those little things that make you think you're not part of her family anymore (immediate family, that is)
08:03 <GodTodd> ah
08:03 <GodTodd> i got ya
08:03 <Lucifer> I don't mean that I'll not think about why we're splitting up, just that I want to meter the time so I don't obsess about it :)
08:04 <GodTodd> definitely :)
08:04 <Lucifer> I've got a new life to work on
08:04 <Lucifer> I started juggling yesterday :)
08:04 <GodTodd> i can juggle two things :)
08:04 <GodTodd> heh
08:04 <Lucifer> tomorrow I've got to go to a Friends of the Planetarium meeting so I can work their booth Saturday evening in the Pecan Street Festival
08:05 <Lucifer> that's a group I've wanted to get involved with but didn't because my wife wasn't interested
08:05 <Lucifer> See, for the size, austin doesn't have a planetarium, but should
08:05 <Lucifer> so this group is trying to raise money and interest to build and operate one
08:05 <GodTodd> ah
08:06 <Lucifer> talked to a girl today that works at Target
08:06 <Lucifer> I know it's only retail, but if she can get me in there, it'll make up the difference
08:07 <GodTodd> part timme?
08:07 <Lucifer> she's in one of the physics classes I'm working, and she's a manager at Target (probably an assistant manager)
08:07 <Lucifer> she says there's plenty of hours available
08:07 <Lucifer> I'm estimating I'll take home $1k from my current job(s), and I only need another $600 to hit my target (no pun intended)
08:07 <GodTodd> probably...and moreso the clooser you get to xmas
08:07 <Lucifer> 20 hours a week at $9 will be fine for me, but she says they can probably give me more
08:08 <Lucifer> if I can get 30 on my schedule, I'll be in good shape
08:08 <GodTodd> until you get back into school i'd be an hour hog
08:08 <Lucifer> won't leave a lot of time for social activities, but that also means there won't be a lot of time for sitting home alone with nothing to do, either
08:08 <GodTodd> yeah...idle time is your enemy right now
08:08 <Lucifer> yep
08:09 <Lucifer> which is what I've got right now ;)
08:09 <GodTodd> i know it helped me a bunch when i had to get a job right away
08:09 <Lucifer> haha, I got the "you transferred money from paypal" email before the "you've got funds" email
08:09 <GodTodd> haha
08:10 <Lucifer> wel, I think I've been suffering from some depression for awhile, definitely a problem in the marriage
08:10 <GodTodd> so is it there now? or is there another hoop it has to jump?
08:10 <Lucifer> more importantly, a problem that she didn't take seriously whenever I tried to talk to her about it, so it's untreated depression
08:10 <GodTodd> that's bad news
08:10 <Lucifer> yeah, it's already been there and I told it to transfer, just that paypal's notification email is late
08:10 <GodTodd> good
08:11 <Lucifer> but the depression is playing a role in my job search right now, so I think it's pretty damn important for me to get in somewhere quickly, anywhere, and get bills paid
08:11 <Acromatic> oh btw paypal takes a day
08:11 <Lucifer> I'll think about what to do after that
08:12 <GodTodd> yeah...it's important to get all set up before doing too much thinking
08:12 <Acromatic> and costs $3.. per hundred at least
08:12 <Lucifer> so, 3%?
08:12 <Acromatic> not sure
08:12 <GodTodd> haha
08:12 <Acromatic> I transfered $100 once and it took $3
08:12 <Lucifer> the transfer is free from my paypal to my checking, it's the transfer from GodTodd to me that costed money, iirc
08:12 <Acromatic> dunno if it's percentage or just flat rate
08:13 <Lucifer> it's a percentage, or else they wouldn't make any money off all the $20 ebay bids :)
08:13 <Acromatic> good point yeah I assumed as much
08:13 <Acromatic> but just because it was $3 doesn't nessesarily mean it's exactly 3%
08:13 <Lucifer> I'm a go grab a smoke, then I need to setup my alarm clock
08:14 <Lucifer> make my bed, etc
08:14 <Lucifer> thanks again GodTodd (hi there!) , hopefully this'll get me through this little rough spot
08:14 <Acromatic> could be 2.5% rounded up or something
08:14 <Acromatic> that'd seem more realistic
08:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer, np at all :)
08:15 <GodTodd> why would they round $2.50 up to $3?
08:22 <Acromatic> they wouldn't
08:22 <Acromatic> they'd round 2.5% up to three for transactions less then a certain amount
08:22 <Acromatic> so they clip smaller quantities for more profit
08:23 <Acromatic> common actually
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08:31 <GodTodd> it actually depends on how the receiving account is set up
08:40 <Lucifer> heya z-man (hi there!)
08:40  * z-man hides
08:41  * Lucifer fires a smoke bomb
08:42  * z-man puts on gas mask and hides even better
08:42  * Lucifer puts a light cycle in a box propped up by a stick
08:43 <z-man> oooh!
08:43 <z-man> that's fighting dirty.
08:43  * Lucifer smiles
08:43 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going to find my corker
08:45 <Lucifer> yay, I found it
08:46  * Lucifer needs to take inventory of the things he needs and post to freecycle for it
08:48 <Lucifer> holy crap, these bottles have crap in the bottom
08:48 <Lucifer> clearly the wine wasn't as clear as I thought it was when I bottled it
08:48 <Lucifer> I'm gonna have to decide if it's worth trying to save now, because I can't leave them bottled like that
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12:42 <epsy> z-man-work, if we change the 1st network layer to what you recently suggested on the forums..will that mean we would break compatibility ?
12:44 <z-man-work> Well, no. Just like now, client and server can negotiate the protocol they're going to use. As long as we keep the old code around, there's no compatibility breakage.
12:45 <epsy> hmm
12:48 <epsy> so that's no opporunity to break more stuff :P
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17:42 <Magnie> ivan you on?
17:42 <epsy> ivantis,
17:42 <epsy> try pressing <tab>
17:42 <Magnie> ivan for short
17:42 <epsy> ivantis does not get alerted when you type ivan
17:43 <Magnie> o
17:43 <Magnie> ivantis you on?
17:43 <epsy> and well, he's set on away
17:43 <Magnie> guess not
17:43 <epsy> so it's likely he's not here
17:43 <Magnie> wana go on arma?
17:43 <epsy> not now no
17:43 <Magnie> k
17:44 <Magnie> ima be on i have alot of names
17:44 <epsy> @sd names
17:44 <Magnie> if you want to see me ill ether be on ctf
17:44 <teabot> epsy: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: (2 more messages)
17:44 <epsy> gah
17:44 <Magnie> ?
17:44 <Magnie> what happened?
17:44 <epsy> @sd normally shows the players who are inside a server
17:45 <Magnie> @sd
17:45 <teabot> Magnie: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: (1 more message)
17:45 <Magnie> ...
17:45 <epsy> ..but it's b0rked
17:45 <Magnie> ok
17:45 <Magnie> ima go to Wild West CTF
17:45 <Magnie> bb
17:45 <epsy> hf
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17:50 <hoop> @sd
17:50 <teabot> hoop: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: (1 more message)
17:50 <hoop> @more
17:50 <teabot> hoop: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: A link to the server could not be established in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\nUsage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}"
17:50 <hoop> @more
17:50 <teabot> hoop: Error: That's all, there is no more.
17:50 <ct|kyle> down again
17:50 <hoop> suxorz!
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18:06 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta] r5 fixed issues with invalid pointer to layer causing seg fault...
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20:33 <noob13> #seen noob7
20:34 <armabot> noob13: noob7 was last seen in #armagetron 18 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <noob7> why? I dont get the fuss really...
20:35 <noob13> wow, thats a long time!
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20:54 <luke-jr> noobs
20:55 <rogue> sboon
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20:59 <noob13> noobs have more fun! 8D
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23:31 <Darth_Gimp> luke-jr you there?
23:32 <luke-jr> #armalukechat
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23:36 <ivantis> hey peeps
23:40 <ivantis> more like #armanoobchat
23:40 <ivantis> for you
23:41  * epsy 's vote on +b ivantis is still active
23:41 <ivantis> not enough possible voters, ignoring request
23:42 <epsy> i'm not starting a poll, the poll is still active
23:50 <hoop> +b?
23:50 <ivantis> +b = banned
23:51 <hoop> ooh, how do i vote?
23:51 <epsy> bannted
23:51 <epsy> /me votes for poll +b ivantis
23:51 <epsy> like that
23:51 <hoop> lol, no automated polling system?
23:51 <hoop> ivantis, what you thinkabout that?
23:52 <epsy> second, let me find a damn stupid supybot plugin
23:52 <epsy> @load Poll
23:52 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:52 <ivantis> @poll -b ivantis
23:52 <ivantis> oh yeah, im still ignored
23:52 <hoop> yea, I think ivantis deserves an automated poll
23:53 <epsy> @poll open +b ivantis?
23:53 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.  (poll #1 added)
23:53 <epsy> @poll add 1 Yes
23:53 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:53 <epsy> @poll add 1 No
23:53 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:53 <epsy> @vote 1 1
23:53 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:53 <epsy> @poll 1
23:53 <teabot> epsy: Poll #1: "+b ivantis?" started by epsy. Options: #1: "Yes"; #2: "No".  Poll is open.
23:54 <epsy> @results 1
23:54 <teabot> epsy: Results for poll #1: "+b ivantis?" by epsy - "Yes": 1 and "No": 0
23:54 <ivantis> will you unignore me from teabot so i can vote?
23:54 <epsy> no
23:54 <epsy> vote cencoring ftw!
23:54 <epsy> whoops
23:54 <epsy> censoring!
23:54 <hoop> is the poll public?
23:54 <epsy> yes
23:54 <epsy> <epsy> @vote 1 1
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23:54 <epsy> == yes
23:54 <pavelo> how about a third option: silence
23:55 <epsy> the channel aint moderatored
23:55 <ivantis2> @vote 1 2
23:55 <epsy> ivantis2, fail
23:55 -!- ivantis2 is now known as sdhjk32lksd
23:55 <hoop> lol
23:55 <sdhjk32lksd> @vote 1 2
23:55 <sdhjk32lksd> you suck
23:55 <epsy> sdhjk32lksd, fail
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23:56 <hoop> autoban?
23:56 <epsy> /login-spamkick!
23:56 <hoop> orly?
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23:56 <jfksdljk3l2> @vote 1 2
23:56 <teabot> jfksdljk3l2: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:56 <epsy> pwnntntntntnt
23:56 <jfksdljk3l2> you suck
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23:56 <ivantis> man
23:57 <epsy> @admin ignore add *!*@*.kitusa.com
23:57 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:57  * ivantis got his ubuntu server edition install CD in the mail today
23:57 <ivantis> im gonna install it sometime soon
23:58 <epsy> i hope for you it's the human server edition
23:58 <ivantis> Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS Server Edition
23:58 <ivantis> luke-jr better prepare for a world of question-asking
23:59 <epsy> hoop, fast, register and vote!
23:59 <epsy> we need guru3's wordcensors on irc :(

Log from 2008-09-19:
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00:00  * luke-jr prepares with /ignore ivantis
00:00 <ivantis> then ill use irssi or something
00:00 <ivantis> that sounds great
00:00  * ivantis needs to get his PowerBook G4 fixed sometime soon
00:00 <pavelo> @vote 1 1
00:00 <teabot> pavelo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
00:01 <pavelo> registered with whom ?
00:01 -!- ivantis is now known as jkalrjkl3
00:01 <epsy> with teabot
00:01 <epsy> /msg teabot help register
00:01 <pavelo> how do i register?
00:02 <jkalrjkl3> @vote 1 2
00:02 <teabot> jkalrjkl3: The operation succeeded.
00:02 -!- jkalrjkl3 is now known as ivantis
00:02 <ivantis> that has satisfied me
00:02 <epsy> @admin ignore *!*@unaffilated/ivantis*
00:03 <epsy> @admin ignore add *!*@unaffilated/ivantis*
00:03 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:03 <hoop> why you kick btw?
00:03 <ivantis> i can still register another nick as @unaffiliated/something
00:03 <epsy> i can still tell you to fuck off
00:03 <ivantis> as well as you spelled unaffiliated wrong
00:03 <epsy> @admin ignore add *!*@unaffiliated/ivantis*
00:03 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:03 <epsy> thanks
00:04 <hoop> why would you come back if you get kicked?
00:04 <epsy> @admin ignore remove *!*@unaffilated/ivantis*
00:04 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:04 <epsy> hoop, arma/IRC?
00:04 <ivantis> like someone would use that hostname
00:04 <hoop> what?
00:04 <epsy> hoop, what are you talking about?
00:05 <ivantis> http://www.nevercorner.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1522
00:05 <ivantis> youre not a permanent idler
00:05 <ivantis> you log off after a while
00:05 <hoop> lol, how do you vote
00:05 <ivantis> you could say im a permanent irc idler
00:05 <ivantis> ive been logged on for 25 days
00:05 <epsy> ivantis, you're just repeating rlk, stfu
00:05 <epsy> hoop, 1/ register, 2/ @vote 1 1
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00:06 <epsy> btw ivantis, g00gling for "epsy" ftw huh?
00:06 <ivantis> no
00:06 <ivantis> i googled for teabot
00:06 <ivantis> how do you get bot hosting?
00:06 <Mindfreak> how do i get rubber for the game?
00:07 <epsy> you mean you googled for "how to circumvent teabot's ignores"
00:07 <ivantis> i have an account with a web host
00:07 <epsy> Mindfreak, the CYCLE_RUBBER setting controls rubber
00:07 <hoop> epsy, I saw, what does 1 1 mean?
00:07 <epsy> @help vote
00:07 <teabot> epsy: (vote [<channel>] <poll id> <option id>) -- Vote for the option with the given id on the poll with the given poll id. This command can also be used to override any previous vote. <channel> is only necesssary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
00:08 <epsy> vote id then choice
00:08 <Mindfreak> ok, but how do i get to it?
00:08 <epsy> Mindfreak, how are you hosting?
00:08 <epsy> dedicated server or "Host Game" Button?
00:08 <Mindfreak> host game button
00:09 <hoop> @vote 1 1
00:09 <teabot> hoop: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
00:09 <epsy> Mindfreak, do you know your console key?
00:09 <Mindfreak> no, i'm new to it
00:09 <hoop> wtf im already identidfied
00:09 <epsy> you can set it in system config -> misc -> global key config
00:10 <epsy> hoop, not with teabot i guess
00:10 <hoop> oh
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00:32 <ivantis> ivantis spoke a total of 20092 words!
00:32 <ivantis> ivantis's faithful follower, epsy, didn't speak so much: 12432 words.
00:32 <ivantis> thats from my logs of the past couple days
00:33 <ivantis> i did an IRC stats generator on them
00:33 <ivantis> just in that time, i spoke 4218 lines
00:33 <epsy> you still forgot the n00b counter
00:34 <ivantis> i didnt write the parser
00:39 <rogue> lol
00:39 <ivantis> maybe i can make it do that, i am good at perl
00:39 <ivantis> its pisg
00:46 <epsy> gn
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01:08 <ivantis> wrtlprnft: your logs made a mess up, i wasnt around irc in 2006, and i remember saying something in http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2006-05-06.txt pretty recently
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01:15 <ivantis> hmm
01:15 <ivantis> why doesnt irssi's --hostname= work?
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01:54 <ivantis> you know what?
01:55 <ivantis> i think im going to install ubuntu server edition now
01:55 <ivantis> luke-jr: will you backup some stuff for me?
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02:16 <teabot> vectroncommits: [dev_branch] r8 conflict test... || [dev_branch] r7 added:... || [dev_branch] r6 removed:...
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04:40 <hoax> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nascar_cancels_remainder_of_season
04:40 <hoax> one person always gotta ruin it for everyone else right ct|kyle
04:41 <ct|kyle> hoax: i don't even what that shit anymore
04:41 <hoax> haha came to your senses eh
04:41 <ct|kyle> hoax: it was good Now it is just cat chases mouse oh and then lets change the points after 26 races so that it may be more exciting,
04:42 <hoax> lame
04:42 <ct|kyle> NASCAR == LAME
04:43 <ct|kyle> BTW NASCAR is why my MSN account got suspended (i was bashing it too much)
04:43 <hoax> hahaha wtf!?
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04:44 <ct|kyle> ya what is said so no more MSN for me
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04:44 <hoax> they reading your msn or smth
04:45 <hoax> ceiling nascar is watching you?
04:45 <ct|kyle> fox sports has MSN login to post a comment
04:45 <ct|kyle> so i used that and right about that time my MSN messenger got suspended
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04:46 <hoax> so they told tales to microsoft
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04:47 <ct|kyle> who knows
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04:47 <ct|kyle> I don't give a shit about MSN MSN == evil anyway
04:47 -!- hoop [n=john@ip-130-150.sn2.eutelia.it] has quit [Client Quit]
04:47 <hoax> aye its pretty shit
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04:48 <hoax> hoop quit if you think msn is total shite
04:48 <ct|kyle> lol
04:48 <ct|kyle> .kick hoop msn sucks
04:48 <hoax> :D
04:48 <ct|kyle> :P
04:48 <hoax> wheres the x man
04:49 <hoax> frogo
04:49 <ct|kyle> .tea
04:49 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortress café” at the moment, sorry.
04:49 <ct|kyle> #tea
04:49 <armabot> ct|kyle: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
04:49 <hoax> .ls xfroggy
04:49 <ct|kyle> o0
04:49 <hoop> who uses xchat?
04:49 <tronner> hoax: I haven't seen anyone matching “xfroggy” yet, sorry.
04:49 <hoax> whats up hoop
04:49 <ct|kyle> hoop: quit and come back
04:49 <hoax> lol
04:49 <hoop> quit what
04:49 <ct|kyle> :P
04:49 <ct|kyle> IRC
04:49 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:49 <hoax> hoop?
04:49 <ct|kyle> for 1 second
04:49 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:50 <ct|kyle> (22:48:13) hoax: hoop quit if you think msn is total shite
04:50 <hoop> Im trying to set up the file containing commands
04:50 <hoax> on enter?
04:50 <hoop> yes
04:50 <hoax> you need more than 2?
04:50 <hoop> more than 1
04:50 <hoax> yeah 1 sorry
04:50 <hoax> I never needed more than 1
04:51 <hoax> so idk :D
04:51 <hoop> so stfu :D
04:51 <hoax> >.>
04:51 <hoax> use mirc then you might stfu :P
04:51 <hoop> @g mirc
04:51 <teabot> hoop: http://www.mirc.com/ - mIRC: Internet Relay Chat client
04:52 <hoax> ^^
04:52 <hoax> its win only, so nvm
04:52 <hoax> just use xchat
04:53 <hoop> received a CTCP VERSION from hoax << does that mean you love me?
04:53 <hoax> unfortunatley
04:53 <hoax> no
04:54 <hoop> :(((((((((((((
04:55 <hoax> but this solves your prob
04:55 <hoax> http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Lostpedia:Chat/Xchat_guide
04:55 <hoax> scroll down to step 4
04:56 <hoop> http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q214
04:57 <hoop> ¤
04:57 <hoax> :)
04:57 <hoop> ¨
04:57 <hoop> ¦
04:57 <hoax> anyways, lata
04:57 <hoop> cu
04:58 <hoop> hm?
04:59 <hoax> <3
04:59 <hoop> whats that :P
04:59 <hoop> haha
04:59 <hoax> :D
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05:13 <ct|kyle> hoax: he agrees
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06:32 <CuRbSidE_tr> anyone here?
06:33 <CuRbSidE_tr> anyoneeeeeeeee here?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!
06:35 <ct|kyle> no one here
06:38 <CuRbSidE_tr> kyle
06:38 <CuRbSidE_tr> whats the captcha when signing up for a wiki account
06:41 <ct|kyle> CuRbSidE_tr: N00BY
06:43 <CuRbSidE_tr> what?
06:43 <ct|kyle> CuRbSidE_tr: ChAnG3
06:44 <CuRbSidE_tr> what?
06:44 <CuRbSidE_tr> wtf are u talking about
06:45 <ct|kyle> (00:38:57) CuRbSidE_tr: whats the captcha when signing up for a wiki account
06:45 <CuRbSidE_tr> yea
06:45 <CuRbSidE_tr>  what is it
06:45 <ct|kyle> IDi0t
06:45 <CuRbSidE_tr> just tell me
06:47 <CuRbSidE_tr> tell me
06:47 <ct|kyle> Z3lr2
06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> seriously
06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> tell me
06:48 <ct|kyle> ya
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06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> coem on
06:48 <ct|kyle> how can i tell you wne it is random
06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> idk wtf it is, i tried to find the server on master list but its not there
06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> no the
06:48 <CuRbSidE_tr> mstery feild
06:49 <CuRbSidE_tr> Mystery Field (Required): our fancy name for a captcha. Please sign into the Armagetron Advanced master server list and write in the url associated with Tigers Network Speed Blast.
06:49 <CuRbSidE_tr> tigers network is not on master list
06:49 <ct|kyle> now i donno what you are talking about
06:50 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
06:50 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (0/14):
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06:56 <Durka_tr> Lucifer: ping
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06:57 <ct|kyle> oi Durka :)
06:57 <Durka> meh
06:57 <Durka> \oi
06:57 <Durka> u cant register on the wiki
06:58 <ct|kyle> Durka: so that is what curbside was complaining about
06:59 <Durka> yea
06:59 <Durka> theres a mystery field
06:59 <Durka> it says open arma
06:59 <Durka> find tigers net speed blast
06:59 <Durka> look at URL
06:59 <Durka> type what u see
06:59 <Durka> one problem: TNSB is down
06:59 <Durka> - doesnt show on list
06:59 <Durka> :\
07:01 <Durka> pz
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16:35 <teabot> vectroncommits: [dev_branch] r11 config.status isn't needed here...... || [dev_branch] r10 slightly updated the autotools machinery... || [dev_branch] tested?... || [dev_branch] another test... || [dev_branch] r9 merged || [dev_branch] r8 Added mea parvitas to AUTHORS... || [dev_branch] conflict test...
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18:22 <hoop> epsy, is teabot online everytime?
18:23 <hoop> *always
18:24 <epsy> most of the time
18:24 <epsy> @results 1
18:24 <teabot> epsy: Results for poll #1: "+b ivantis?" by epsy - "Yes": 2, "No": 1, and "No": 0
18:25 <epsy> lol
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18:30 <hoop> epsy, you host it?
18:36 <epsy> somehow$
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20:38 <Paralyzed> hi
20:39 <Paralyzed> hey hoop
20:39 <hoop> he
20:39 <Paralyzed> know anything about phbb?
20:39 <hoop> hmmmmmmmmmmm... nope
20:40 <Paralyzed> ok sigh.
20:40 <hoop> ah! do you mean phpbb?
20:40 <Paralyzed> yea typo >.>
20:40 <Paralyzed> phpbb3 to be exact.
20:40 <hoop> hmmmmmmmmmmm... nope
20:40 <Paralyzed> LOL
20:40 <Paralyzed> ok
20:40 <hoop> ;)
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23:31 <ivantis> http://svgtest.space-lab.us/map.svg
23:31 <ivantis> updates every 40 seconds
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01:30 <madmax> major new features on iTunes 8: heavier cpu spike on song change, er, that is all.
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04:28 <ivantis2> #echo Hello, world!
04:28 <armabot> Hello, world!
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04:29 <ivantis2> #sd
04:29 <armabot> ivantis2: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (1 more message)
04:29 <ivantis2> wtf?
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04:57 <ivantis> beep!
05:05 <ct|kyle> ivantis: beep
05:06 <ct|kyle> .ctwf
05:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (0/14):
05:06 <ct|kyle> .sd
05:06 <tronner> ct|kyle: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
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05:21 <Monkey_arma> stewwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh
05:22 <ct|kyle> Monkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyy
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05:23 <ivantis> ivaaaaaaaaaaaaaantis
05:27 <ivantis> http://www.bugmenot.com/view/forums.armagetronad.net
05:27 <ivantis> haha
05:27 <ivantis> only 2 on that one
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05:38 <_Ratchet> :x
05:39 <_Ratchet> hii
05:42 <ivantis> hey ratchet
05:42 <ivantis> you get ubuntu working?
05:44 <_Ratchet> I did
05:44 <_Ratchet> however internet still an issue
05:44 <_Ratchet> my dad is liking the bluetooth feature
05:44 <_Ratchet> lol
05:45 <ivantis> you cant get wireless working?
05:45 <_Ratchet> correct
05:45 <_Ratchet> dad played with the settings for a while
05:45 <_Ratchet> couldn't get it
05:46 <ivantis> did you install all the drivers?
05:46 <ivantis> i got mine working
05:46 <ivantis> even though this wireless card sucks
05:46 <_Ratchet> I don't know how
05:46 <ivantis> hold on...
05:46 <ivantis> ill see if the faq is still in my history
05:46 <_Ratchet> k
05:47 <ivantis> its not, but do you need something like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-October/127728.html ?
05:48 <_Ratchet> ok
05:50 <_Ratchet> I need like a tutorial
05:56 <ivantis> *sigh*
05:56 <ivantis> okay, do you extensively trust me?
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06:14 <ivantis> http://www.youtube.com/user/ivantis
06:14 <ivantis> is not me
06:15 <ivantis> what the hell? how is it possible someone could use this name, who wasnt me?
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06:44 <ivantis> #night
06:44 <armabot> Good night ivantis!
06:44 <ivantis> *yawn*
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11:38 <teabot> armabugs: [272398] pthreads not working/not used
11:47 <armabot> lpbugs: [272398] pthreads not working/not used
11:47 <epsy> @rss announce --remove armabugs
11:47 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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11:58 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: will there be a multiwinia dedicated server? :D
12:02 <epsy> guru3, wiki not responding :x
12:06 <epsy> guru3, ah, seems to work agai, nvm
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12:47 <evaldusia> is multiwinia good?
12:47 <evaldusia> i saw it on steam
12:47 <evaldusia> seen
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14:10 <wrtlprnft> evaldusia: it's fun, definitely
14:33 <evaldusia> I played demo
14:33 <evaldusia> 20 mins ago
14:33 <evaldusia> fun tho
14:33 <evaldusia> but i liked darwinia better
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15:18 <wrtlprnft> multiplayer is the fun part
15:20 <Monkey_arma> if you are talking about arma then multiplayer is the whole point
15:39 <evaldusia> lol
15:39 <evaldusia> wrtlprnft it costs
15:39 <evaldusia> :|
15:39 <evaldusia> and i hate buying
15:39 <evaldusia> anything that i can't touch
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16:32 <wrtlprnft> buy a boxed version?
16:35 <arrow> what kind of game?
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17:00 <noob13> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiwinia
17:00 <noob13> arrow: genre: "Not well defined; hybrid of Action and RTS"
17:01 <epsy> wrtlprnft, why would we have one? Oo
17:02 <arrow> ok ty will check ^^
17:04 <wrtlprnft> epsy: because zmanuel already built a dedicated server for defcon?
17:04 <epsy> aah
17:04  * epsy pokes wrtlprnft about café
17:05 <arrow> defcon is cool ;)
17:05 <arrow> i played demo for long time
17:12 <wrtlprnft> defcon is too intense for me x_X
17:12 <wrtlprnft> and i always lose, anyways
17:12 <wrtlprnft> too much politics and backstabbing
17:13 <arrow> i know what u mean
17:13 <arrow> i more preffer clasical rts
17:13 <arrow> also
17:14 <arrow> like starcraft or my favorite was sudden strike series
17:15 <epsy> mhh
17:16 <epsy> meh
17:22 <arrow> hehe ;)
17:24  * epsy dunt liek rts
17:28 <ivantis> BEEP
17:28  * ivantis just ate a pizza roll, it was delicious
17:28 <epsy> as delicious as McDonald food, i guess
17:28 <wrtlprnft> epsy: mw is rts without the part at the beginning where you just build stuff
17:29 <wrtlprnft> and without dozens of different units
17:29 <ivantis> McDonalds food is not good
17:29 <ivantis> but this pizza roll was
17:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, still, i don't like rts :P
17:29 <ivantis> have you guys played fantastic contraption or whatever its called on kongregate?
17:29 <ivantis> its so cool
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17:30 <ivantis> its kind of like Phun, except you have a goal to accomplish
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17:30 <epsy> flash game i guess?
17:30 <epsy> \o Stewah PinkTomato
17:30 <arrow> sounds good wrtlprnft
17:30 <arrow> i might try it
17:31 <ivantis> yeah flash game
17:31 <ivantis> i know your issue with flash games epsy
17:31 <PinkTomato> epsy: flash game?
17:31 <ivantis> but its fun
17:31 <ivantis> http://www.kongregate.com/games/ColinNorthway/fantastic-contraption
17:31 <epsy> yeah, it's funny to see firefox's cpu usage jump by 1000% as soon as it starts flash
17:32 <epsy> and to see flash making firefox steal focus and stacking all the time
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18:00 <ivantis> you mean how the window turns gray?
18:00 <ivantis> and stops responding?
18:00 <ivantis> i usually just kill -9 it
18:01 <epsy> no
18:02 <epsy> newCpuUsage = oldCpuUsage × 1000 / 100
18:02 <epsy> well
18:02 <epsy> newCpuUsage = oldCpuUsage × 1100 / 100 :P
18:03 <ivantis> epsy, you ought to get a kongregate account
18:03 <ivantis> actionscript is really easy, compared to C++
18:03 <epsy> for not using it?
18:03 <epsy> i used to do actionscript
18:03 <ivantis> and upload some games i mean
18:03 <epsy> some neat stuff
18:03 <ivantis> do you have flash MX?
18:03 <epsy> no
18:03 <ivantis> i limewired it on my other computer
18:04 <ivantis> which im going to fix today...
18:04 <ivantis> the company expects you to pay $600 for it
18:04 <ivantis> what do they expect? im not made of money
18:04 <epsy> i don't want it anymore, flash sucks, terribly, even if it's the best out there, there are other ways of archieving the same stuff, but with better performance
18:05 <Monkey_arma> flash sucks ASS
18:05 <ivantis> like how?
18:05 <ivantis> give me an example
18:05  * Monkey_arma coughs
18:05 <epsy> javascript
18:05 <Monkey_arma> watch
18:05 <ivantis> can not beat flash
18:05 <ivantis> i hate javascript
18:05 <epsy> on what points, sir?
18:05 <ivantis> its all...
18:05 <Monkey_arma> http://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu.html
18:05 <epsy> yeah, but it's way faster on the cpu
18:05 <ivantis> i dont like how it doesnt work right on some OSs, and on some browsers
18:06 <ivantis> im not great at actionscript
18:06 <ivantis> but my cousin is
18:06 <epsy> that's why i would use javascript instead
18:06 <ivantis> http://stinvurger.uk.to is his website, i think he has some javascript games on there
18:07 <ivantis> …
18:07 <ivantis> nvm, i guess he took it off
18:07 <ivantis> but there was a better mouse-racing game on there i think
18:08 <epsy> and on top of it, i dont like in-browser stuff
18:08 <ivantis> someone should really re-write this fantastic contraption game
18:08 <ivantis> yes epsy, i do not like in-browser stuff either
18:08 <Monkey_arma> nor me
18:10 <ivantis> flash isnt so bad on the CPU
18:10 <epsy> it is
18:10 <ivantis> it has never crashed my computer
18:10 <ivantis> actually, i dont think my computer has ever crashed
18:10 <ivantis> er, once
18:10 <epsy> none of my apps made my comp crash by cpu
18:11 <ivantis> but that was because i was doing some weird infinite loop program that i downloaded
18:11 <ivantis> maybe i should have read the part that said "DO NOT RUN THIS, IT IS NOT GOOD ON YOUR COMPUTER!!" better
18:12 <ivantis> monkey: i watched that happy birthday to gnu thing the first time you said it
18:12 <ivantis> is it dubbed?
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18:12 <ivantis> it doesnt look like hes saying that
18:13 <Monkey_arma> of course he is saying it
18:13 <Monkey_arma> even if the dubbing is out of sync
18:13 <ivantis> i really like that part about you dont really own it if you cant alter it
18:13 <madmax> isn't that video in java webstart? that's almost as bad on the cpu as flash heh
18:13 <ivantis> the part after the sink thing
18:14 <ivantis> that is a great point
18:14 <ivantis> why buy from windows?
18:14 <Monkey_arma> i was saying that there are alternatives to flash
18:14 <ivantis> you dont own it
18:14 <Monkey_arma> dont go thinking that i am a java fan
18:14 <ivantis> why pay for something you cant have?
18:14 <madmax> an equally bad alternative is not an alternative if you ask me
18:14 <Monkey_arma> i wouldnt say it is equally bad
18:15 <Monkey_arma> its better...just maybe not a lot better
18:15 <Monkey_arma> certainly as far as security/stability goes
18:16 <ivantis> good science is to share everything
18:16 <ivantis> it should be the same with software
18:16 <ivantis> like he said
18:16 <Monkey_arma> science in the wrong hands is bad
18:16 <Monkey_arma> look at atomic bombs etc
18:16 <Monkey_arma> the world is more complicated that that
18:16 <ivantis> terrible
18:17 <Monkey_arma> free software/open source is not necessarily "the shit"
18:17 <ivantis> that is a great video
18:17 <Monkey_arma> also as far as quality goes
18:17 <Monkey_arma> a lot of open source stuff is shit
18:17 <Monkey_arma> just happens that MS is shitter
18:18 <ivantis> people just thing that "its free, so its not as good quality"
18:18 <ivantis> as if you buy it...
18:18 <ivantis> idiots
18:18 <ivantis> s/thing/think/
18:18 <Monkey_arma> well in some ways and in some cases that can be true
18:19 <Monkey_arma> in others not
18:19 <ivantis> sometimes
18:19 <ivantis> but
18:19 <ivantis> windows is still terrible
18:19 <Monkey_arma> yes
18:19 <Monkey_arma> is mac's graphical server worse than x server?
18:19 <Monkey_arma> no
18:19 <Monkey_arma> and im no mac fan
18:19 <Monkey_arma> x server is pile of shit
18:19 <ivantis> i like aqua
18:19 <Monkey_arma> also partition magic versus libparted
18:19 <ivantis> im thinking about getting a new mac
18:19 <ivantis> laptop
18:20 <Monkey_arma> 15 years on and libparted is bugged to fuck
18:20 <ivantis> i definetly want a mac
18:20 <Monkey_arma> and lacks functionality
18:24 <ivantis> i still have my sdf account...
18:24 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$ ssh sdf.lonestar.org
18:24 <ivantis> ivantis@sdf.lonestar.org's password:
18:24 <ivantis> [ WARNING:  'ivantis' will expire in -45 days - Please 'validate' TODAY ]
18:24 <ivantis> Please press your BACKSPACE key:
18:24 <ivantis> uh-oh, my account expires in -45 days!
18:24 <ivantis> terrible
18:24 <ivantis> i guess their account remover program is borked
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18:41 <ivantis> what is the name of the variable that determines what editor to use in crontab -e and stuff?
18:42 <ivantis> i thought it was EDITOR
18:42 <madmax> #sd open sumo
18:42 <armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (7/12): #Ta$$mA#, evälÐúsiå (evaldusia@forums), La Française_fr, olive, sithy (Sithy@forums), |x|Cid, ©©©©©
18:43 <evaldusia> ?
18:43 <evaldusia> ah highlithed
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18:44 <evaldusia> can't change to taht nick
18:44 <evaldusia> evälÐúsiå
18:44 <ivantis> you mean in IRC?
18:44 <evaldusia> yea
18:44 <epsy> you can't indeed
18:45 <ivantis> its because it only takes regular latin characters for nicks
18:45 <epsy> not even latin-1
18:45 <epsy> i think
18:45 -!- ivantis is now known as ev
18:45 <epsy> * ¦×¦ :Erroneous Nickname
18:45 <evaldusia> epsy why did you left ?
18:45 <evaldusia> server?
18:45 <epsy> i said it
18:46 -!- ev is now known as ivantis
18:46 <evaldusia> ahh
18:46 <epsy> mother going around..impossible to keep concentrated on gameplay
18:46 <evaldusia> remembered
18:46 <ivantis> Ðú :Erroneous Nickname
18:46 <ivantis> it doesnt like those kind of symbols
18:48 <epsy> it only accepts ascii
18:49 <evaldusia> 〹
18:49 <epsy> ..for names..
18:49 <epsy> rest isn't filtered (except colors)
18:49 <ivantis> i like how teabot has colored letters for Google in list
18:49 <ivantis> @list
18:49 <epsy> heh
18:50 <evaldusia> @list
18:50 <teabot> evaldusia: Alias, ChannelRelay, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Misc, Nickometer, Poll, QGoogle, Quote, RSS, Scheduler, String, Time, User, Utilities, and Web
18:50 <ivantis> well, it works in a PM
18:50 <evaldusia> it jsut highlighted everything
18:50 <evaldusia> because of my nick
18:51 <epsy> evaldusia, zomghax!??
18:51 <evaldusia> yea
18:51 <ivantis> Google
18:51 <evaldusia> hax
18:51 <evaldusia> everything is red
18:51 <ivantis> like that
18:51 <epsy> ivantis, channel is color filtered
18:51 <ivantis> oh
18:52 <ivantis> you could see that in color?
18:52 <epsy> see what?
18:52 <ivantis> whats the setting for non-color filtered
18:52 <ivantis> the Google
18:52 <epsy> -c
18:52 <ivantis> Google
18:52 <ivantis> is that in color?
18:52 <epsy> no..
18:52 <evaldusia> a
18:52 <ivantis> it is for me
18:52 <epsy> i just said that channel was color-filtered
18:52 <epsy> ivantis, ircds doesnt send messages back to owner
18:53 <ivantis> mibbit doesnt support color?
18:54 <ivantis> how lame
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18:55 <epsy> mibbit is not meant to be a full-fledged irc client
18:55 <ivantis> well, it sucks
18:55 <ivantis> yep
18:55 <ivantis> remember when i used it?
18:55 <ivantis> then i used ircii
18:55 <epsy> don't use it for daily use, it's NOT MEANT for daily use >.>
18:55 <ivantis> and then found xchat
18:55 <ivantis> i only use it when away from home
18:56 <ivantis> or on a computer where i cant download stuff
18:56 <evaldusia> Damn damn damn mdan
18:56 <ivantis> im thinking about making a perl irc client
18:56 <epsy> ivantis, normally it should be ${EDITOR}
18:56 <ivantis> using perls gtk modules
18:57 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$ echo ${EDITOR}
18:57 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$
18:57 <ivantis> i get nada
18:57 <epsy> got the same :|
18:57 <ivantis> but its still default joe
18:57 <ivantis> ivantis@ivantis:~$ ${EDITOR}="nano"
18:57 <ivantis> bash: =nano: command not found
18:57 <ivantis> ?
18:57 <ivantis> how do i change it?
18:58 <epsy> export EDITOR=nano
18:58 <epsy> but that wont be saved
18:58 <ivantis> oh yeah, it is in nano now
18:58 <ivantis> the crontab editing
18:59  * epsy wants to have the choice between gvim and vim
18:59 <ivantis> btw
18:59 <ivantis> i think i messed up on something
18:59 <ivantis> bigtime
19:00 <epsy> like "sudo vi /etc/sudoers<enter><insert>nhiorgùnirfùgdf<esc>:wq!<enter>" on ubuntu?
19:00 <ivantis> no
19:02 <ivantis> http://pastebin.com/m7da02e1a
19:03 <ivantis> i get that when i run gcc or g++
19:03 <ivantis> and i think it might have something to do with http://blog.heuristicdesign.co.uk/archives/2007/07/01/cross-compiling-gtkmm-applications-to-windows/
19:03 <ivantis> i did some of that stuff
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19:16 <guru3> so, i feel a bit stupid now
19:16 <guru3> i've come back to uni
19:16 <guru3> and i have nothing to do for another week
19:18 <noob13> make cookies for the less fortunate
19:19 <guru3> i have no food as it is
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19:36 <evaldusia> #sd open sumo
19:36 <armabot> evaldusia: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (7/12): <halban>, CT_emmy (peiaemanuel@ct), cT¤K-Yo, evälÐúsiå (evaldusia@L_OP), JS°, Sideswipes, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
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19:44 <K-Yo> hey
19:45 <K-Yo> epsy: you there?
19:45 <evaldusia> H
19:45 <evaldusia> HI
19:45 <K-Yo> HI
19:45 <K-Yo> long time evaldusia
19:45 <K-Yo> don't steal my gf!
19:45 <evaldusia> :D
19:45 <K-Yo> does anyone know what is LEGACY_LOG_NAMES for?
19:46 <evaldusia> there's no description?
19:54 <K-Yo> .cfg2 legacy_lo
19:54 <tronner> K-Yo: LEGACY_LOG_NAMES: legacy_log_names_help
19:54 <K-Yo> .cfg legacy_lo
19:54 <tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
19:54 <K-Yo> nope
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20:02 <epsy> K-Yo, ?
20:08 <evaldusia> lies
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20:20 <kilper> hi
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20:37 <madmax> http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/08/introducing-ubiquity/
20:37 <madmax> might get interesting
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22:58 <madmax> #sd deathmatch
22:58 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (3/16): Aqualiver, Aqualung, Aquaspleen
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23:28 <Ratchet___> hi
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23:31 <_Ratchet> hi
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23:47 <madmax> #sd deathmatch
23:47 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): Hello
23:47 <madmax> hi
23:48 <madmax> damnit, Hello left
23:58 <teabot> vectroncommits: [dev_branch] r12 src/document.cpp...

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00:59 <_Ratchet> hi
00:59 <_Ratchet> #help
00:59 <armabot> _Ratchet: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
01:00 <_Ratchet> #sd
01:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
01:00 <_Ratchet> #sd ctfs
01:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: {Delicious Desserts} CTF + CTFS: Players (0/12):
01:00 <_Ratchet> #sd ctf shooting
01:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (6/10): -=L$)Tobe, <BK>beanerTRON, Monkey.D.Luffy, Rockslide, _~R~_Code, ~'Ns.Paralyzed
01:11 <ivantis> illbient
01:11 <ivantis> is delicious
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02:01 <teabot> vectroncommits: [dev_branch] r13 pavelo check me...
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02:08 <ivantis> developler
02:08 <ivantis> lol
02:28 <StickyNoob> #aka staff
02:28 <armabot> StickyNoob: ¿30164 staff
02:33 <hoax> #armaservers
02:34 <armabot> hoax: This data is 19 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (8/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (8/14), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/14), The YELLOW Submarine (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), The -=VcL.Clan Server! (5/10), |FA| BLACK ICE (4/16), internalDrive (1 more message)
02:40 <Ttech> 0.o
02:50 <ivantis> i had a great idea
02:50 <ivantis> do you guys know the game "Octopus"?
02:51 <ivantis> where someone is in the middle of a field, the rest of the people on one end. the middle person yells "octopus!" and you run to the other side without getting tagged
02:51 <ivantis> that one
02:51 <ivantis> armagetron-octopus?
02:51 <ivantis> that would be fun
03:07 <ivantis> http://churchsigngenerator.com/sign04.pl?text1=Coem+adn+warhsip+wiht+us%21&text2=Tusedya++prayign&text3=%21%3A30+-+S%3A00&tfont=1&htext1=Chruch+of+Chrits&htext2=Larwence%2C+Kasnas&hfont1=12&hfont2=12&emblem=animal-bird05&hcolor=842626&fcolor=EDDFDF&ocolor=270C4C&bcolor=EDDFDF&ecolor=842626
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03:14 <noob13> damn! im too afraid to clickety that link 8|
03:14 <noob13> http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif
03:15 <noob13> i will hit u in the face.
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03:32 <ivantis> http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/sign06.pl?text1=God+is+watching&text2=you+can+be+bad+in+hell&text3=&text4=Sunday+worship+B%3BO0&tfont=1&htext1=God%27s+Church&htext2=Lawrence%2C+Kansas&hfont1=12&hfont2=12&emblem=rel-church02&hcolor=8F0B0B&fcolor=EDE7F4&ocolor=4D7417&bcolor=EDE7F4&ecolor=8F0B0B
03:32 <ivantis> an even better one
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05:49 <Lucifer> herh
05:49 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
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05:59 <_Ratchet> #sd ctf shooting
05:59 <armabot> _Ratchet: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (4/10): <deleted>, çr@z¥_N3WB, DigitalHandIvan, Pnux
06:00 <_Ratchet> is there a way to add commands?
06:00 <_Ratchet> #add
06:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
06:00 <_Ratchet> #plugin
06:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: (plugin <command>) -- Returns the plugin(s) that <command> is in.
06:00 <_Ratchet> #plugin greet
06:00 <armabot> _Ratchet: Error: There is no command "greet".
06:01 <_Ratchet> #plugin make greet
06:01 <armabot> _Ratchet: Error: There is no command "make greet".
06:01 <_Ratchet> -.-
06:11 <_Ratchet> #sd ctf shooting
06:11 <armabot> _Ratchet: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (3/10): Cougar, Genesis, Prophecy
06:11 <Lucifer> heh
06:12  * Lucifer wants to tell GodTodd something funny
06:12 <_Ratchet> lucifer
06:12 <_Ratchet> hello :D
06:13 <Lucifer> hi
06:13 <_Ratchet> do you know if you can add commands to this joint?
06:13 <Lucifer> you're not GodTodd
06:13 <_Ratchet> :x nope
06:13 <Lucifer> I don't know anything about your joint
06:13 <_Ratchet> about this server. chat
06:13 <_Ratchet> server/chat
06:14 <_Ratchet> is there a way to add a #<> command?
06:14 <_Ratchet> :o
06:14 <Lucifer> alis
06:14 <Lucifer> er
06:14 <Lucifer> alias
06:14 <Lucifer> #list alias
06:14 <armabot> Lucifer: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, (4 more messages)
06:14 <_Ratchet> can you create one?
06:14 <_Ratchet> er
06:14 <_Ratchet>  I
06:15 <Lucifer> if you're registered and identified with armabot, yes
06:15 <_Ratchet> =o
06:15 <_Ratchet> #register
06:15 <armabot> _Ratchet: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
06:15 <_Ratchet> =o
06:16 <Lucifer> you have to /msg armabot to do it
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06:20 -!- Ratchet is now known as Ratchet--
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06:22 <Ratchet--> ok i registered
06:22 <Ratchet--> nowwhat
06:22 <Ratchet--> =ox
06:22 <Ratchet--> #alias
06:22 <Ratchet--> #list alias
06:22 <armabot> Ratchet--: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, devhelp, (4 more messages)
06:22 <Ratchet--> #lags
06:22 <armabot> so what? wtf
06:22 <Ratchet--> lol
06:23 <Ratchet--> #help
06:23 <armabot> Ratchet--: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
06:23 <Ratchet--> #help alias
06:23 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: There is no command "alias".
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06:28 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
06:30 <Ratchet--> lucifer
06:30 <Ratchet--> i am registered
06:30 <Ratchet--> now what
06:30 <Ratchet--> :o
06:30 <Lucifer> figure it out from the miniscule information I gave youi
06:30 <Lucifer> or consult the supybot documentation
06:30 <Lucifer> because I['m a dick and I don't feel like spoon-feeding you shit
06:31 <Lucifer> ]well, maybe shit, but nothing else
06:31 <Ratchet--> ok
06:31 <Lucifer> also, I'm a go grab a smoke
06:33  * Lucifer needs to work the planetarium booth tomorrow night, too
06:33 <Lucifer> if only to hang out with that girl that was at the meeting, heh
06:33 <Ratchet--> =o
06:33 <Ratchet--> #list alias
06:33 <armabot> Ratchet--: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, (4 more messages)
06:33 <Ratchet--> #ratchet
06:33 <Ratchet--> =-C
06:34 <Ratchet--> #ratchet
07:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong
08:09 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping again
08:10 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r1 layout draft...
08:12 <GodTodd> Lucifer, pong again
08:12 <Lucifer> heh, I was about to step outside again, too
08:12 <Lucifer> so, I cut my hair
08:12 <Lucifer> 8 years of long hair growth, and I just went in and said "cut it so short I won't have to comb it"
08:13 <Lucifer> follow?  :)
08:13 <GodTodd> haha
08:13 <Lucifer> it was in that book, do something to alter your appearance and make it your own or something like that
08:13 <GodTodd> mine's been growing for 4.5 years i think
08:13 <Lucifer> I had a beard, and I shaved it, and that was all while I was married
08:13 <Lucifer> in fact, I shaved it *for* my wife
08:13 <Lucifer> I don't have th emoney for a new wardrobe, so what's left?
08:14 <GodTodd> heh
08:14 <Lucifer> tattoos, piercings, or a hair cut
08:14 <Lucifer> pick one :)
08:14 <Lucifer> I picked a hair cut
08:14 <GodTodd> i can't do tattoos
08:14 <Lucifer> so today, I dropped off my kids and ran downtown to work a booth at the Pecan Street festival
08:14 <Lucifer> volunteer work, trying to build a planetarium in Austin :)
08:14 <GodTodd> right
08:14 <Lucifer> I dropped them off at the school where my stbx is taking classes
08:14 <Lucifer> we parked in the same area, so we walked out together
08:15 <Lucifer> the whole time we were walking out, she was checking me out
08:15 <Lucifer> it was a little wierd
08:15 <Lucifer> before the hair cut: try to avoid eye contact and never look at me
08:15 <Lucifer> after the hair cut: can't keep her eyes off me
08:15 <GodTodd> haha
08:15 <Lucifer> I should've done this two weeks ago, when I still wantd to reconcile
08:15 <Lucifer> now I want to smack her
08:15 <Lucifer> so.......
08:15 <Lucifer> it's funny, anyway
08:15 <Lucifer> I guess we'll see how it goes, because my old "do" isn't coming back for another 8 years at least :)
08:16 <GodTodd> truly
08:16 <Ratchet--> lol
08:16 <Ratchet--> #sd ctf shoot
08:16 <Lucifer> I thought you might get a kick out of it, though :)
08:16 <armabot> Ratchet--: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (0/10):
08:16 <Ratchet--> that's hilarious luc :p
08:17 <GodTodd> yeah that's kinda weird that you would *choose* it...figured it'd take a "real job" to do it ;)
08:17 <Lucifer> Ratchet--: take it as a cautious tale of dating a superficial woman
08:17 <Lucifer> nah, I've cut and regrown like 3 times now
08:17 <Lucifer> it's not big deal to me
08:17 <Ratchet--> lol
08:17 <Lucifer> there is another possibility for her behavior, though
08:17 <GodTodd> whassat?
08:17 <Lucifer> see, she had been trying to talk me into cutting it, because she likes my hair short
08:18 <Lucifer> so the possibility, because I haven't been talking to her about my feelings, is that she thinks I did it to impress her
08:18 <Lucifer> you know, as a peace offering of sorts
08:18 <GodTodd> yeah, that's a real possibility
08:18 <Lucifer> I think this is a long shot, because we've restricted our conversation so much for the last couple of weeks that she has no realistic idea what I'm thinking
08:18 <GodTodd> like a "i cut it, do you like me now?"
08:19 <Lucifer> I'm not murderous or anything, but I'm definitely thinking I don't want to be with her without some significant show of "see it from your side" from her
08:19 <Lucifer> basically, she's going to have to really put out to convince me there's a relationship
08:19 <GodTodd> yep
08:19 <Lucifer> unconditional love is all well and good, but is really only a small part of a day-to-day relationship
08:19 <Lucifer> and I want to see that she's really and truly walked a mile in my shoes before I'm willing to talk reconciliation
08:20 <Lucifer> even then, reconciliation = marriage counseling
08:20 <Lucifer> you know, with a pro
08:20 <GodTodd> hell yeah..."love" has nothing to do, really, with a successful relationship....it's all the other stuff that makes that work
08:20 <Lucifer> but she has *NO IDEA* that I'm thinking this :)
08:20 <Lucifer> so this could be entertaining, or it could be a passing thing worthy of slight note and that's it
08:20 <Lucifer> worst case, we might try one more time on my terms
08:21 <Lucifer> that's unlikely, though
08:21 <GodTodd> i'd make sure it's on your terms tho
08:21 <Lucifer> even if she approaches me, she'll balk as soon as I start talking about walking a mile in my shoes
08:21 <Lucifer> see, she can't do that
08:21 <Lucifer> she's *incapable* of seeing any point of view other than her own
08:21 <GodTodd> that's sad
08:21 <Lucifer> which is fundamentally why I left her, even if I went momentarily berserk and tried to make up with ehr
08:22 <Lucifer> but I have to allow for the possibility I'm wrong, and it's unlikely it'll go that far
08:22 <GodTodd> right
08:22 <Lucifer> I don't see a haircut making a big difference one way or the other, but it's interesting to note that she couldn't keep her eyes off me
08:22 <GodTodd> it is :)
08:22 <Lucifer> that'll at least get her thinking things she didn't think she could think
08:22 <GodTodd> wow, that was a mouthful
08:22 <Lucifer> hell, maybe I'll score one last time before it's all said and done :)
08:23 <Lucifer> heh
08:23 <Lucifer> I need to step out for a few minutes, though, seriously
08:23 <GodTodd> heh
08:23 <Lucifer> just didn't want to walk off without telling you about this :)
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09:04 <Lucifer> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/09/20/state/n203741D02.DTL
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12:30 <evaldusia> #sd open sumo
12:30 <armabot> evaldusia: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
12:31 <arrow> i am for it
12:31 <arrow> in 10 mins?
12:32 <evaldusia> ehwaT?
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12:33 <arrow> sumo?
12:33 <evaldusia> joining now
12:34 <evaldusia> dunno how much i can play
12:34 <arrow> ok
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14:12 <K-Yo> evaldusia: you got out too?
14:12 <K-Yo> G5:  ^^
14:14 <evaldusia> ah
14:14 <evaldusia> yea
14:14 <evaldusia> K-Yo what happenbed?
14:14 <K-Yo> dunno
14:14 <K-Yo> I'll relaunch it
14:14 <evaldusia> what was those white zones?
14:15 <K-Yo> evaldusia: done
14:15 <K-Yo> evaldusia: I was spawning some balls
14:15 <evaldusia> lol
14:15 <K-Yo> totally useless and harmless ;)
14:17 <K-Yo> well, sometimes harmless
14:33 <G5> K-Yo: ?
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14:37 <K-Yo> G5: was about ctos
14:37 <K-Yo> it crashed while u were in
14:37 <K-Yo> it's back up
14:38 <G5> Yeah, I noticed :)
14:38 <G5> The crash I mean
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15:07 <K-Yo> is concord online anywhere?
15:07 <K-Yo> #ls concord
15:07 <armabot> K-Yo: Concord has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 minutes ago.
15:11 <_Ratchet> lol
15:11 <_Ratchet> #ls Prophecy
15:11 <armabot> _Ratchet: Prophecy seems to be on  Wild West  =Sumo= right now.
15:11 <_Ratchet> #login
15:13 -!- _Ratchet is now known as Ratchet--
15:13 <Ratchet--> o=
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15:16 <Ratchet--> #server list
15:16 <Ratchet--> #list server
15:16 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: 'server' is not a valid plugin.
15:16 <Ratchet--> help
15:16 <Ratchet--> #help
15:16 <armabot> Ratchet--: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
15:16 <Ratchet--> #list alias
15:17 <armabot> Ratchet--: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, bak, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, crashme, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, (4 more messages)
15:17 <Ratchet--> cheers
15:17 <Ratchet--> #cheers
15:17 <armabot> Ratchet--: [] Cheers! [] The friendly server.: Players (10/12): A2A, cheft, cry me a river, C°LD, Marvin, Yellow, þW·kËØz, [TK] Justme, [TK]Speti, |fg|RiotStarter
15:18 <Ratchet--> #roulette
15:18 <armabot> Ratchet--: *click*
15:19 <Ratchet--> #list servers
15:19 <armabot> Ratchet--: Error: 'servers' is not a valid plugin.
15:19 <Ratchet--> #sd ctf sh
15:19 <armabot> Ratchet--: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (1/10): kai
15:19 <Ratchet--> =o
15:27 <evaldusia> #sd wild fort
15:27 <armabot> evaldusia: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (7/14): <Altidore>, <rdp>charmander, <rdp>tronner4u, <V>TØ M, DD| Dal, Helena, IL, Sp| Ru|3en_16
15:36 <Monkey_arma> p4 there are 3 complaints about the connection info
15:37 <madmax> Ratchet--: if you want a server list it's #armaservers
15:42 <K-Yo> #help servers
15:42 <armabot> K-Yo: (servers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaservers $*".
15:42 <Monkey_arma> p4 4 complaints
15:43 <madmax> connection info?
15:43 <Monkey_arma> ye
15:43 <Monkey_arma> go to ct sumo
15:56 <P4> who?
15:59 <Monkey_arma> dal, akira, singsing, me
15:59 <Monkey_arma> singsing is a smurf
15:59 <Monkey_arma> dunno who
16:07 <noob13> p4: could you make is say what country one comes from? that would be cool i thinks..
16:07 <P4> it will say your last two parts of the domain
16:08 <P4> i hate providers setting their revdnses to sth like :þ
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16:28 <madmax> heh what's that thing useful for?
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16:28 <madmax> finding fake players?
16:29 <K-Yo> madmax: I think that's the Idea
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19:30 <epsy> hophophooophoop
19:36 <hoop> hey
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20:32 <K-Yo> @lp
20:32 <teabot> Bug tracker : https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad || Answers : https://answers.launchpad.net/armagetronad || Bzr branches : https://code.launchpad.net/armagetronad (see also @bzr) || Blueprints : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad
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20:52 <K-Yo> epsy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/war-module
20:54 <epsy> K-Yo, i thought about something which could be coordinated across servers :P
20:54 <K-Yo> epsy: I mentionned it
20:55 <epsy> K-Yo, that should work with aliasses, or scriping, huh
20:55 <K-Yo> or could be centralized on armagetronad.net
20:55 <K-Yo> no?
20:55 <epsy> (no, aliasses and scripting aren't implemented yet)
20:55 <epsy> no no no
20:55 <epsy> not centralized
20:55 <K-Yo> why not?
20:55 <epsy> because it's bad
20:55 <K-Yo> why?
20:55 <K-Yo> tthat's how the server list works
20:55 <epsy> let the server owner choose who to cope with
20:56 <epsy> K-Yo, actually, no
20:56 <epsy> people can choose which master to connect to
20:56 <epsy> (as client or "as server")
20:59 <K-Yo> ok
20:59 <K-Yo> then maybe centralized for each war/tourney
20:59 <K-Yo> and would work like auth
21:00 <epsy> it's up to the server admin to choose, not the guy who does the code, get it ? :)
21:00 <K-Yo> a side configured by the organizer
21:00 <K-Yo> got it
21:01 <K-Yo> so, would that work? something similar to auth or ressource repository
21:01 <epsy> yeah yeah everything is possible
21:01 <epsy> mind if i rename your blueprint? war doesnt make much sense to me
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21:03 <epsy> K-Yo, nvm, i shamelessy did it already :)
21:03 <epsy> K-Yo, there https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/match-coordinator
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21:04  * epsy wants teabot to show blueprints title as wel as bug titles :(
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21:04 <epsy> ..and a spell checker, too
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21:07 <K-Yo> epsy: perfect ;)
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21:26 <epsy> hi _Ratchet
21:26 <epsy> K-Yo, are you making a wiki page for it?
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21:41 <K-Yo> epsy: dunno, maybe later
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22:53 <SpeeD> ok
22:53 <hoop> heya
22:53 <hoop> gj
22:54 <SpeeD> hi :D
22:54 <SpeeD> ^
22:54 <Monkey_arma> hi speed
22:54 <hoop> msn sux :P
22:54 <SpeeD> oh hi :D
22:54 <SpeeD> didnt know that one ;)
22:55 <hoop> ok, we usually meet here before matches
22:55 <SpeeD> ow ok
22:55 <hoop> at least to know who is able to play
22:55 <SpeeD> yeh if u see im off 10-15 before u should take another one ;)
22:56 <hoop> there won't be another one :P
22:56 <SpeeD> once i forget to come here
22:56 <hoop> just be there or I tell your mum
22:56 <SpeeD> lol
22:57 <SpeeD> im out now school tomorow bbl
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23:01 <ivantis> i am lacking a feature
23:01 <ivantis> i cant blow bubbles with gum
23:01 <K-Yo> ivantis sucks
23:01 <madmax> ...
23:01 <ivantis> …
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23:06 <luke-jr> ivantis sucks K-Yo's nipples
23:06 <ivantis> eww
23:06 <ivantis> luke-jr, dont tell other people what you do
23:06 <ivantis> thats nasty
23:08 <K-Yo> .slap luke-jr 2
23:08  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with a forgotten shisha
23:08  * tronner slaps luke-jr  with a wild marshmallow
23:08 <ivantis> .slap luke-jr
23:08 <ivantis> oh yeah, im still ignored
23:08 <hoop> lol
23:09 <K-Yo> .apropos ignote
23:09 <tronner> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
23:09 <K-Yo> .apropos ignore
23:09 <tronner> K-Yo: Admin ignore add, Admin ignore list, Admin ignore remove, Channel ignore add, Channel ignore list, Channel ignore remove, and ignore
23:09 <K-Yo> .admin ignore list
23:09 <tronner> K-Yo: '*ljrbot*!*@2002:18fc:*', 'armabot!*@', '*!i=479ed353@gateway/*', 'ljrbot*!*@*:0:1d:0:0:7034', and 'teabot*!*@*.dreamhost.com'
23:09 <K-Yo> ivantis: you're not ;)
23:10 <ivantis> .ping
23:10 <K-Yo> .channel ignore list
23:10 <ivantis> P4 did it
23:10 <ivantis> yeah, it responds in a PM
23:10 <K-Yo> xD
23:11 <K-Yo> ivantis: anyway, only tronner's admins can slap
23:11 <K-Yo> .help slap
23:11 <tronner> K-Yo: (slap [<channel>] [<nick>] [<times>]) -- Act optionally directed at a random string, person, object, etc. <times> can be used to slap more than one times
23:11 <hoop> .slap K-Yo
23:11 <K-Yo> .slap hoop
23:11  * tronner slaps hoop around with a colorful Mr Johnson
23:11 <hoop> :(
23:11 <K-Yo> :)
23:11 <hoop> @slap K-Yo
23:11 <hoop> #slap K-Yo
23:11 <armabot> hoop slaps K-Yo for being a raving moron.
23:12 <hoop> phew
23:12 <K-Yo> hah
23:12 <K-Yo> #whoami
23:12 <armabot> K-Yo: K-Yo
23:12 <K-Yo> #capabilities hoop
23:12 <armabot> K-Yo: (capabilities [<name>]) -- Returns the capabilities of the user specified by <name>; if <name> isn't specified, returns the hostmasks of the user calling the command.
23:12 <K-Yo> #capabilities hoop
23:12 <armabot> K-Yo: (capabilities [<name>]) -- Returns the capabilities of the user specified by <name>; if <name> isn't specified, returns the hostmasks of the user calling the command.
23:12 <hoop> lol
23:13 <K-Yo> :/
23:13 <K-Yo> #capabilities K-Yo
23:13 <K-Yo> hahaha
23:13 <K-Yo> (23:13:07) armabot: []
23:13 <K-Yo> that are my capabilities xD
23:14 <K-Yo> @whoami
23:14 <teabot> K-Yo: I don't recognize you.
23:14 <K-Yo> @apropos register
23:14 <teabot> K-Yo: register and unregister
23:14 <K-Yo> @help register
23:14 <teabot> K-Yo: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This command (and all other (1 more message)
23:15 <K-Yo> @register pwnzorz hoopisanoob
23:15 <teabot> K-Yo: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
23:15 <K-Yo> arf
23:25 <hoop> @whoami
23:25 <teabot> hoop: I don't recognize you.
23:25 <hoop> oO
23:26 <hoop> @whoami
23:26 <teabot> hoop: hoop
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23:36 <Monkey_arma> @whoishoop
23:39 <K-Yo> @capabilities hoop
23:39 <teabot> K-Yo: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
23:39 <K-Yo> @whoami
23:39 <teabot> K-Yo: K-Yo
23:39 <K-Yo> @capabilities hoop
23:39 <teabot> K-Yo: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
23:39 <K-Yo> @help capabilities
23:39 <teabot> K-Yo: (capabilities [<name>]) -- Returns the capabilities of the user specified by <name>; if <name> isn't specified, returns the hostmasks of the user calling the command.
23:39 <K-Yo> this bot sucks
23:48 <hoax> do teabot & tronner need to be here now armabot is back
23:48 <K-Yo> tronner has always been here
23:50 <K-Yo> gtg$
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23:56 <Monkey_arma> i would happily get rid of them

Log from 2008-09-22:
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00:07 <Monkey_arma> guru3 can we not use our forums account for the wiki? It seems not :\
00:07 <Monkey_arma> Can that be changed?
00:07 <Monkey_arma> plz
00:07 <guru3> maybe one day
00:08 <Monkey_arma> :(
00:10 <guru3> it's not quite as simple as tapping it with my magic wand
00:10 <guru3> and no one really responded to my other attempts to move in that direction
00:13 <Monkey_arma> oO so you recommended that and no one responded
00:13 <Monkey_arma> fools
00:14 <Monkey_arma> well its the right direction....
00:14  * Monkey_arma will buy guru a magic wand for christmas
00:14 <guru3> i didn't recommend that
00:14 <guru3> but i was looking at integrating authentication
00:14 <Monkey_arma> sounds good
00:14 <guru3> except for everyone ignoring it
00:14 <guru3> so i dropped it
00:14 <Monkey_arma> bastads
00:15 <Monkey_arma> i was not on forums then i guess
00:15 <guru3> it was like 1 month ago
00:16 <Monkey_arma> hrm
00:16 <Monkey_arma> i shall resurrect the thread if i find it
00:16 <Monkey_arma> dont worry
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00:20 <Monkey_arma> ah do you mean the html one?
00:20 <Monkey_arma> but do we really need html ?
00:24 <guru3> well my grand scheme was to link both the forums and the wiki to an armaauth db
00:27 <Monkey_arma> that is a fine grand scheme
00:27 <Monkey_arma> gl with it
00:34 <madmax> #sd open sumo
00:34 <armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (12/12): Bip, black_hat, Code, edLOVESchouchou, joda.bot, moth, obo63, Player DEBE-ITA, schwulaoff, Sprite^, Steel, techguy*^&(&^E^, ~KirBy!<(^.^)>~
00:35 <akira_arma> #servers
00:35 <armabot> akira_arma: This data is 41 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (11/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (10/12), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (9/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), WILDCAT (6/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Fortress Café - CT's clone (6/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (1 more message)
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00:35 <akira_arma> ämore
00:35 <akira_arma> #more
00:35 <armabot> akira_arma: (6/14), The YELLOW Submarine (5/16), Swampland II (4/8), Wild West  =Sumo= (2/14), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (2/16), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (1/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (1/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (1/14), Unnamed Server (1/16)
00:35 <akira_arma> swampland II???!!!
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01:26 <ivantis> all right!
01:26 <ivantis> i got 100% on the baby adult quiz!
01:27 <ivantis> im good
01:27 <ivantis> do "$ quiz baby adult" if you have bsdgames installed
01:29 <akira_arma> ....
01:30 <madmax> @vote 1 1
01:30 <teabot> madmax: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:30 <madmax> aw :(
01:31 <madmax> gnight
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02:08 <ivantis> …
02:08 <ivantis> with flash running, firefox takes 50% of the CPU
02:09 <ivantis> when everything else is below 1%
02:09 <ivantis> does armagetron take a lot of cpu when you have lots of players?
02:09 <ivantis> luke-jr
02:09 <ivantis> luke-jr
02:09 <ivantis> luke-jr
02:09 <ivantis> have your servers ever run out of CPU?
02:09 <luke-jr> ivantis: eat Lucifer's poop
02:10 <luke-jr> no
02:10 <luke-jr> yours probably will on your 486 tho
02:10 <ivantis> my server only allows 8 players max
02:10 <ivantis> above that connections time out
02:11 <ivantis> even at like 3, european players time out
02:11 <ivantis> firefox: defunct
02:11 <ivantis> i hate how it turns grey and doesnt do anything?
02:11 <ivantis> s/\?//
02:12 <ivantis> so in bash...
02:12 <ivantis> ! signifies the last command issued, right?
02:12 <ivantis> luke-jr
02:12 <luke-jr> ivantis: stop being a poop
02:12 <ivantis> or is it !!?
02:12 <luke-jr> ivantis: do that again and I start billing you $35/hr for hand holding
02:13 <ivantis> okay okay
02:13 <luke-jr> rtfm
02:13 <luke-jr> seriously
02:13 <ivantis> but, if i use \!, as in an argument, it sends \\! to it
02:13 <ivantis> ??
02:13 <ivantis> if !, it sends the last issued command
02:14 <ivantis> ..
02:14 <ivantis> wait
02:14 <ivantis> i mean …
02:14 <ivantis> it should be \!! right?
02:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: mise as well start the charging
02:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: if he doesn't say my name, I can ignore him
02:16 <ivantis> i had a great idea
02:16 <ivantis> a pastebin linux command
02:16 <ct|kyle> ivantis: i hope it was to STFU
02:16 <ivantis> it sends a files contents to pastebin
02:38 <hoop> there's already: $ pb <file>
02:41 <ivantis> not for me
02:42 <ivantis> what package is it in?
02:42 <hoop> oh wait, maybe it was pbin or something
02:43 <ivantis> cant find it
02:44 <hoop> hmm
02:44 <ivantis> well, im already working on mine
02:44 <Monkey_arma> ivantis just write a quick bash script
02:44 <ivantis> i am
02:44 <Monkey_arma> good
02:44 <ivantis> no, perl script
02:44 <ivantis> better than bash
02:44 <Monkey_arma> well bash is fine for command line
02:45 <Monkey_arma> its not general purpose
02:45 <hoop> man u ruined my joke :(
02:46 <hoop> oh found it: $ paste -rtFmXz <http://etc..> <file>
02:47 <Monkey_arma> i dont get the Xz
02:48 <hoop> ye, you can avoid that
02:52 <ivantis> what pastebin does it send to?
02:54 <ivantis> …
02:54 <ivantis> that doesnt work on my system
02:55 <ivantis> it says "Merges lines of files" on $ man paste
02:56 <Monkey_arma> hehe
02:56 <Monkey_arma> ivantis ..lol
02:56  * hoop slaps iventis' oculist
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03:14 <ivantis> done!
03:14 <ivantis> http://rafb.net/p/BLSwYP17.html
03:14 <ivantis> you need lwp-request thing installed to run it
03:15 <ivantis> and you cant have a file called fdsj342988923klklkldsjoiewjrioajf98p43jkfjdaslk98xcjhk23jk in the directory you run it in
03:15 <ivantis> …
03:17 <ct|kyle> all of my directories have fdsj342988923klklkldsjoiewjrioajf98p43jkfjdaslk98xcjhk23jk as a file :(
03:17 <ivantis> then you cant run it
03:17 <ivantis> or it will delete the contents of it
03:18 <ivantis> wait
03:18 <ivantis> looking at that one,
03:18 <ivantis> http://rafb.net/p/YmVoW378.html
03:18 <ivantis> is the more update one
03:19 <ivantis> hmm
03:19 <ivantis> now i just need to figure out a way so that it returns the URL of the paste
03:20 <ct|kyle> why don't you just send the text instead of writing it to a file
03:20 <ivantis> it needs to
03:20 <ivantis> perl parses text badly
03:20 <ivantis> you wouldnt be able to send it any files with a $ in them
03:22 <ct|kyle> why not allow option for type of text
03:23 <ivantis> …
03:23 <ivantis> shut up
03:30 <ivantis> #night
03:30 <armabot> Good night ivantis!
03:40 <hoop> ct|kyle, woah I've fixed vectron rendering :)
03:40 <hoop> it's not redrawing everytime now
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03:44 <Monkey_arma> hi Joshua_x_
03:44 <ct|kyle> hoop: i'll try it tomorrow
03:45 <hoop> no need to try :P, just a news
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04:21 <Joshua_x_> hello
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04:21 <Ratchet--> =-o
04:25 <Lucifer> fuck
04:27 <ct|kyle> run out of money Lucifer
04:43 <teabot> vectroncommits: [final] r5 fixed issues with invalid pointer to layer causing seg fault... || [final] r4 zones shape preview when creating... || [final] r3 improvements to the zones tool... || [final] r2 set x,y coords when creating a zone... || [final] r1 first upload (the real first was messed up)...
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06:02 <Lucifer> no, kyle (I realize he just left)
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16:33 <ct|kyle> .tea
16:33 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
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16:47 <Monkey_arma> .tea
16:47 <tronner> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (4/32): JS°, Monkey (Monkey@forums), |x| FoFo, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy
16:47 <Monkey_arma> ^^
16:50 <ct|kyle> ya i wanted to reboot server it was on Monkey_arma
16:51 <Monkey_arma> o
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20:11 <epsy> #eliza how's the life?
20:11 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
20:12 <epsy> #eliza dunno, that's why i'm asking you
20:12 <armabot> epsy: Is it because you are asking me that you came to me?
20:12 <epsy> #eliza erm, yes, indeed
20:12 <armabot> epsy: Why do you say erm yes indeed?
20:12 <epsy> #eliza isn't it obvious?
20:12 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
20:12 <epsy> #eliza fuck you
20:12 <armabot> epsy: Are you afraid of sex?
20:12 <epsy> :x
20:13 <noob13> :D
20:13 <epsy> #eliza yes
20:13 <armabot> epsy: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
20:13 <epsy> #eliza i dont like sex IN THE BACK
20:13 <armabot> epsy: Why do you say you do not like sex in the back?
20:13 <epsy> #eliza do you like sex IN THE BACK ??
20:13 <armabot> epsy: What do you think?
20:13 <epsy> #eliza fuck you
20:13 <armabot> epsy: Are you afraid of sex?
20:14 <epsy> we could go on an infinite loop like thaty
20:14 <epsy> @help wisdom
20:14 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "wisdom".
20:14 <epsy> @help markov
20:14 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "markov".
20:14 <epsy> #help wisdom
20:15 <armabot> epsy: (wisdom <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron] [markov #armagetron]".
20:15 <epsy> #help markov
20:15 <armabot> epsy: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
20:15 <epsy> #markov one two
20:16 <epsy> armabot, HINT: three!
20:16 <epsy> #ping
20:16 <armabot> pong
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20:25 <epsy> \o SpeeD
20:25 <SpeeD> hm
20:26 <epsy> hm?
20:26 <SpeeD> hi
20:26 <epsy> Hi!
20:26 <epsy> what brings you here ? :)
20:26 <Monkey_arma> epsy look who is here¬!!!!
20:26 <SpeeD> hoop^^
20:26 <epsy> Monkey_arma?
20:27 <Monkey_arma> epsy?
20:27 <epsy> hoop's sexeyh indeed
20:27 <SpeeD> heh
20:27 <epsy> but he aint here atm
20:27 <SpeeD> i know
20:27 <SpeeD> he just gave me that for chat he said msn sux
20:27 <epsy> msn indeed blows
20:28 <SpeeD> :D
20:28 <epsy> irc as well
20:28 <epsy> but well, clients are cooler
20:28 <SpeeD> if we need to talk about arma i use that one more useful
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21:15 <armabot> lpbugs: [273255] the sounds suck
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21:41 <Monkey_arma> PinkTomato and others, there will be fort tournament called ladle on sunday 12th october
21:41 <Monkey_arma> you dont need a team
21:41 <Monkey_arma> check the wiki and forum posts
21:43 <PinkTomato> OK, Thanks :)
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22:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, PinkTomato: er, you need a team
22:00 <epsy> but there are some 'open' ones
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22:27 <Monkey_arma> i know
22:28 <Monkey_arma> but thx
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22:45 <ivantis> #help eliza
22:45 <armabot> ivantis: (eliza <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/eliza.php?s=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
22:45 <ivantis> haha... ha
22:47 <epsy> it's the e-liza :O
22:48 <ivantis> how do supybot's html parsers work?
22:48 <ivantis> not very well obviously
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22:48 <ivantis> it has all the <br> and stuff in it
22:49 <ivantis> i ought to write a HTML parser for them
22:52 <epsy> it's just the web plugin which strips them i guess
22:52 <epsy> or wait..
22:52 <epsy> no it doesnt
22:52 <epsy> @fetch http://google.com/
22:52 <teabot> epsy: '<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><title>Google</title><style>body,td,a,p,.h{font-family:arial,sans-serif}.h{font-size:20px}.h{color:#3366cc}.q{color:#00c}.ts td{padding:0}.ts{border-collapse:collapse}#gbar{height:22px;padding-left:2px}.gbh,.gbd{border-top:1px solid #c9d7f1;font- (2 more messages)
22:53 <epsy> indeed it doesn't
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23:03 <madmax> Monkey_arma: multiple inheritance sucks
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23:04 <epsy> K-Yo, ah, je t'attendais :P
23:04 <K-Yo> do NEVER try /admin spam_maxlen 10
23:04 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: LOL
23:05 <epsy> don't do /admin spam_maxlen 21 either
23:05 <K-Yo> why?
23:05 <epsy> because you wont be able to type it again?
23:05 <ct|kyle> yes you can
23:05 <epsy> \0
23:05 <epsy> no you can't :)
23:06 <epsy> it's 21 chars long
23:06 <epsy> so it needs 22 bytes to store it
23:06 <K-Yo>  /admin include a
23:06 <epsy> haha
23:06 <K-Yo> ;)
23:07 <K-Yo>  so the limit is 16
23:07 <epsy> 17*
23:08 <ct|kyle> i think there should be some check for that if an idiot K-Yo does something stupid  :)
23:09 <epsy> /admin SPAM_MAXLEN 150 ACCESS_LEVEL SPAM_MAXLEN -1
23:09 <K-Yo> ;)
23:09 <ct|kyle> :)
23:09 <epsy> poof no more buggage possible
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, btw, general structure for a blueprint's wiki article is 1/ the need 2/ concept overview 3/ communication protocols involved(drop that, i'll do it) and 4/ user interface (in this case, admin interface)
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, but well, you got time
23:13 <epsy> there's no hurry, there's lots of stuff to be done before that
23:17 <epsy> K-Yo, in fact, you will see that it's deptree is huge https://blueprints.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+spec/match-coordinator/deptree.png :P
23:17 <K-Yo> indeed
23:19 <K-Yo> epsy: I name it "match-coordinator" or "match_coordinator" on wiki?
23:19 <epsy> Match coordinator module
23:19 <epsy> use spaces, let mediawiki handle it
23:19 <K-Yo> ok
23:20 <epsy> as 1/ you can generally just describe the possible use
23:23 <epsy> K-Yo, got it? :)
23:24 <K-Yo> .wherethefuckiskyo
23:24 <tronner> cT¤K-Yo has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 minute ago. *|* K-Yo@forums has last been seen on Eddie's Armathenticating Fortress 3 days 0 hours 41 minutes ago. *|* pwnzorz has last been seen on Old Europe =Fortress= 24 days 22 hours 31 minutes ago. *|* I haven't seen anyone matching “K-Yo@durkadurkaland.com” yet, sorry.
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23:25 <epsy> lol
23:25 <K-Yo> t;)
23:25 <epsy> \o hoax
23:25 <K-Yo> I am on open fort
23:25 <epsy> hoax, speed has been looking fro you
23:25 <epsy> erm
23:25 <epsy> hoop,
23:26 <epsy> K-Yo, I am leaving :P gn
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23:26 <K-Yo> gn
23:26 <K-Yo> ‏‫طربوش تطربشنا به وطربوش ما تطربشنا به قوم يا متطربش وتطربش بالطربوش لا نتطربش ب
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23:31 <ivantis> #alias add fetch2 fetch http://localhost/htmlparser.php?s=@1
23:31 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
23:31 <ivantis> #fetch2
23:31 <armabot> ivantis: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
23:31 <ivantis> …
23:31 <ivantis> oh yeah
23:31 <ivantis> #alias add fetch2 fetch http://space-lab.us/htmlparser.php?s=@1
23:31 <armabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
23:31 <ivantis> #fetch2
23:31 <armabot> ivantis: 'Usage: fetch2 <URL of document>\nParses HTML into an IRC-readable supybot reply.\n'
23:32 <ivantis> oh yeah
23:32 <ivantis> no \ns
23:33 <ivantis> #fetch2
23:33 <armabot> ivantis: 'Usage: fetch2 <URL of document>   Parses HTML into an IRC-readable supybot reply.\n'
23:33 <ivantis> #fetch2 http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/
23:33 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
23:33 <ivantis> dangit
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23:39 <ivantis> #ivantis
23:40 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
23:41 <K-Yo> #help ivantis
23:41 <armabot> K-Yo: (ivantis <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "ls ivantis".
23:41 <K-Yo> .ls ivantis
23:41 <tronner> K-Yo: ivantis has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 1 day 19 hours 59 minutes ago.
23:41 <K-Yo> .help ivantis
23:42 <ivantis> why is tronner so slow?
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23:43 <K-Yo> ivantis
23:43 <K-Yo> .ivantis
23:43 <tronner> '"ivantis is a noob."'
23:43 <K-Yo> he's not
23:43 <K-Yo> .wherethefuckiskyo
23:43 <tronner> cT¤K-Yo has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 minute ago. *|* K-Yo@forums has last been seen on Eddie's Armathenticating Fortress 3 days 0 hours 41 minutes ago. *|* pwnzorz has last been seen on Old Europe =Fortress= 24 days 22 hours 31 minutes ago. *|* I haven't seen anyone matching “K-Yo@durkadurkaland.com” yet, sorry.
23:43 <K-Yo> nope, he's slow only for stupid commands!
23:43 <ivantis> why did it not return "there is no command "ivantis"" then?
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23:44 <ivantis> #fetch http://ava.us
23:44 <armabot> ivantis: '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"\n       "html-dtd/xhtml1-strict.dtd">\n<html lang="en" xml:lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</title>\n<!--<style type="text/css">li:hover {display:none}</style>-->\n</head><body>\n<h1>Wrtlprnft\'s home server</h1>\n<p>\nThis is mostly a (5 more messages)
23:44 <ivantis> hey ratchet
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23:44 <ivantis> #dns ava.us
23:44 <armabot> Host not found.
23:46 <ivantis> is also localhost?
23:46 <ivantis> i didnt know that
23:47 <K-Yo> me neither
23:49 <ivantis> …
23:49 <ivantis> i want to buy nic.hk
23:50 <ivantis> its not registered
23:57 <K-Yo> #seen durka
23:57 <armabot> K-Yo: durka was last seen in #armagetron 3 days, 16 hours, 55 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Durka> pz
23:58 <madmax> #ls mazuffer
23:58 <madmax> .ls mazuffer
23:58 <K-Yo> #later tell Durka http://durkas.info/afl/ to be updated ;)
23:58 <armabot> madmax: timed out
23:58 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
23:58 <tronner> madmax: timed out
23:59 <madmax> are the bots ignoring each other? if not, we could set them in a infinite echo call loop
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Log from 2008-09-23:
--- Day changed Tue Sep 23 2008
00:00  * madmax isn't sure why there's 3 bots here
00:01 <ivantis> oh yeah
00:01 <ivantis> ljrbot did leave
00:02 <ivantis> make tronner and teabot leave
00:02 <ivantis> im ignored from them anyway
00:02 <madmax> keep either tronner or teabot!
00:02 <ivantis> armabot is back
00:09 <K-Yo> .ignore list
00:09 <K-Yo> .admin ignore list
00:09 <tronner> K-Yo: '*ljrbot*!*@2002:18fc:*', 'armabot!*@', '*!i=479ed353@gateway/*', 'ljrbot*!*@*:0:1d:0:0:7034', and 'teabot*!*@*.dreamhost.com'
00:09 <K-Yo> #admin ignore list
00:09 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:10 <K-Yo> arf
00:10 <K-Yo> they are ignoring each other
00:11 <ivantis> #each .ping
00:11 <ivantis> really?
00:11 <ivantis> #echo .ping
00:11 <armabot> .ping
00:12 <ivantis> they are
00:13 <madmax> .echo ping
00:13 <tronner> ping
00:13 <madmax> .echo #ping
00:13 <tronner> #ping
00:14 <armabot> pong
00:14 <madmax> yeah, they are *cough*
00:14 <madmax> .echo @ping
00:14 <tronner> @ping
00:15 <madmax> teabot is @?
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00:43 <hoax> #later tell epsy no speed hath been looking for You :o
00:43 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
00:46 <hoax> K-Yo can you remove that last msg on cafe clone its kinda annoying now
00:47  * hoax didn't notice any downtime anyway
00:47 <hoop> what msg
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03:14 <_Ratchet> #seen ratchet
03:14 <armabot> _Ratchet: ratchet was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 21 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Ratchet> thar =-o
03:14 <_Ratchet> lol
03:14 <_Ratchet> thats quite inaccurate
03:14 <_Ratchet> #seen ~'Ns.Ratchet
03:14 <armabot> _Ratchet: I have not seen ~'Ns.Ratchet.
03:14 <_Ratchet> =o
03:14 <_Ratchet> liar!
03:15 <_Ratchet> #seen Råt¢hêt
03:15 <armabot> _Ratchet: I have not seen Råt¢hêt.
03:15 <_Ratchet> bitch!
03:15 <_Ratchet> you lie
03:15 <_Ratchet> #seen ~'Ns.Råt¢hêt
03:15 <armabot> _Ratchet: I have not seen ~'Ns.Råt¢hêt.
03:15 <_Ratchet> WTF!
03:15 <_Ratchet> LIAR!
03:15 <_Ratchet> i hate you now
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06:19 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r3 forgot about config.status... || [beta2] r2 fixed cairo redrawing flashes... || [dev_branch] r5 fixed issues with invalid pointer to layer causing seg fault... || [dev_branch] r4 zones shape preview when creating... || [dev_branch] r3 improvements to the zones tool... || [dev_branch] r2 set x,y coords when creating a zone... || [dev_branch] r1 first upload (the real first was messed up)...
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08:01 <Lucifer> oh fuck, oops
08:01  * Lucifer is hungry
08:01  * Lucifer should eat something
08:02  * Lucifer should make a grocery list
08:10  * Lucifer should start playing arma again
08:23  * hoop welcomes back Lucifer 
08:24 <Lucifer> hi
08:24 <Lucifer> I just moved my computer across the room :)
08:24 <Lucifer> setup my desk today, now my room is starting to look like somebody actually lives here
09:23 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r5 removed typo file... || [beta2] r4 merged commit #12 from dev_branch...
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12:37 <Guest41339> crap
12:37 <Guest41339> ah nvm
12:37 <Guest41339> didn't registered my nickname on this irc serv
12:37 <Guest41339> LOL
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13:31 <guru3> can anyone explain the game experience settings
13:31 <guru3> or point me to the wiki page
13:32 <epsy> the thing that locks you out when you don't have enough experience?
13:32 <guru3> yeah
13:32 <guru3> is that enabled by default?
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13:32 <epsy> i think..
13:32 <guru3> why in gods name is that default
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13:36 <epsy> ..i don't know
13:36 <guru3> do you know the setting name?
13:37 <epsy> the PLAY_TIME ones
13:37 <guru3> thanks
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14:44 <epsy> wrtlprnft's logs are hanging again, meh
14:45 <epsy> bbl
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14:50 <P4> look at http://havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl/~p4/logs/?aa or upper :)
14:56 <evaldusia> i have 1.3k yen
14:56 <evaldusia> i'm rich
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15:18 <eddiefantastic> oi ct|kyle
15:19 <eddiefantastic> ct|kyle: does the ct server browser no longer rely on wrtl's webpage? that is, is it now standalone?
15:41 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: it takes from WRTL's but when it is down it takes from joy :)
15:41 <ct|kyle> eddiefantastic: and joy only gets the date when wrtl's is down :)
15:54 <eddiefantastic> hmm
15:54 <eddiefantastic> ok thanks
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18:12 <K-Yo> who the fuck is SlaYer?
18:12 <ct|kyle> #aka slayer
18:13 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿10065 fun1_e_slayer sk|elite_slayer sk|_slayer sk|_slaye sla slayer
18:15 <evaldusia> #sd open sumo
18:15 <armabot> evaldusia: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (7/12): Bip, BloodyJin, fingerbib, lckdscl, no7, ~KirBy!<(^.^)>~, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
18:18 <hoax> problem K-Yo?
18:20 <akira_arma> #aka akira
18:20 <armabot> akira_arma: ¿15386 highway_noobery akira 0:akira@L_OP sakura
18:20 <akira_arma> O.O
18:20 <K-Yo> hoax: no prob, I was just wondering who he is to play in ur team ><
18:21 <epsy> K-Yo, I don't think the spec should cover how the MCS presents it's services to users
18:21 <K-Yo> epsy: means?
18:21 <K-Yo> what will cover it then?
18:21 <epsy> ie. we don't have to define how it manages a tourney for example
18:21 <hoax> quite an aggresive way to ask a question then K-Yo
18:22 <K-Yo> hoax: you also know how to be aggressive som times ;)
18:22 <hoax> he was x before you were ct, thats how hes playing
18:22 <epsy> we describe the 1st feature and document the second one so that one can make a great MCS
18:22 <hoax> yeah at the right times.
18:22 <K-Yo> epsy: but could an user use the MCS to organize a tourney?
18:23 <epsy> if the MCS allows it
18:23 <K-Yo> I mean if he handles a part with php on his side or smthing
18:23 <epsy> the MCS should control it from A-Z in my opinion
18:23 <epsy> the only stuff the server does it obey and organize a match
18:23 <K-Yo> that would make it easier to use
18:24 <K-Yo> epsy: you have a better overview than me, knowing how is the actual code ;)
18:24 <eddiefantastic> is slayer still around?
18:24 <K-Yo> I let you do how you think is best ><
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18:25 <epsy> K-Yo, well, i think we should let room for one to make a MCS which can do full-fledged tourneys as well as one which only allows matches inserted manually into an SQL table
18:26 <epsy> while the server module just obeys
18:26 <epsy> ..and sends feedback
18:26 <epsy> what do you think?
18:27 <madmax> is it the same slayer that used to play a long time ago?
18:27 <K-Yo> so, make 2 new features: match-MCS and tourney-MCS ?
18:28 <hoax> no we got a new one & are passing him off as the old one
18:28 <epsy> no, the MCS will directly tell the server for each match, imo
18:28 <epsy> the server wouldn't even know there's a tourney going on
18:28 <K-Yo> then, only the MCS will count matches, ... ?
18:29 <epsy> it just gets told, "ok, there's to teams: X with a, b, c, and Y with d, e, f; tell me when you're done"
18:29 <epsy> K-Yo, i would think so
18:32 <K-Yo> epsy: okay, but the MCS, what will wake it work?
18:32 <K-Yo> will I have to run it from a distant machine?
18:33 <epsy> i'd say, a webserver?
18:33 <epsy> bit like AAGID
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18:33 <K-Yo> then, it's only some scripting, like we can already do with ct+sty ?
18:34 <epsy> except there's a defined protocol, and it works remotely, and the module that controls stuff would be effectively part of arma
18:34 <hoop> mornin
18:34 <K-Yo> okay
18:34 <ct|kyle> oi hoop
18:34 <epsy> (arma as the server process)
18:34 <K-Yo> so, we could launch it from arma?
18:34 <K-Yo> like MCS_RESSOURCE http://blahblah.com/msc
18:34 <epsy> well, it should be able to be loaded dynamically (=a module)
18:35 <epsy> gah
18:35 <K-Yo> ok
18:35 <epsy> argnagnagnagnanga
18:35 <K-Yo> argnargnargnar
18:35 <K-Yo> nice heh
18:35 <epsy> drop the old style settings
18:35 <K-Yo> you're dynamicing everything?
18:35 <epsy> including your mum!
18:35 <K-Yo> great!
18:35 <epsy> Exactly!
18:36 <K-Yo> how will you do for all the existing settings?
18:36 <epsy> that's the hard part
18:36 <K-Yo> in the dedicated side
18:36 <K-Yo> there a re a loooot of settings
18:36 <epsy> but if we don't arrange that before introducing modules, it will be a huge chaos
18:36 <K-Yo> true
18:36 <K-Yo> so you're grouping settings?
18:36 <epsy> putting them in a tree
18:37 <K-Yo> nice
18:37 <epsy> and stripping admin commands out
18:37 <epsy> that's the main idea
18:37 <ct|kyle> hoop: did you say you fixed the redraw for made it worse?
18:38 <K-Yo> totally?
18:38 <K-Yo> so, I'll have to press escape to kick you ?
18:38 <epsy> K-Yo, now there's other stuff like w0wz server-side autocomplete :)
18:38 <K-Yo> ok
18:38 <K-Yo> w0wz ?*
18:38 <K-Yo> is that on wiki?
18:38 <epsy> K-Yo, no, they will have their own thingy
18:38 <epsy> not yet
18:39 <K-Yo> what's wowz?
18:39 <epsy> w0w0w0w0wz0rz
18:39 <hoop> ct|kyle, i fixed it in my comp, it's not committed on launchpad
18:39 <K-Yo> @g w0wz
18:39 <teabot> K-Yo: http://www.xanga.com/dehlitoaznbabiguh/498182173/item.html - w0wz havent been on this one forever... but you should go ...
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18:39 <epsy> Oo
18:39 <epsy> hai speeDx
18:39 <speeDx> hi epsy
18:40 <K-Yo> wtf is wowz?
18:40 <epsy> hoop is here this time :)
18:40 <speeDx> there standing any1 using always speed .p
18:40 <epsy> wow, and i'm not talking about the game..
18:40 <speeDx> nick*
18:40 <epsy> speeDx, not a very original nickname i bet ;)
18:40 <K-Yo> epsy: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=201418856 this then? xD
18:40 <speeDx> lol u have right
18:41  * epsy hesitates at clicking K-Yo's link
18:41 <K-Yo> haha
18:41 <speeDx> brb
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18:41 <ct|kyle> ok hoop that makes sense :P  i had to get libxml++ to update :)
18:41 <K-Yo> epsy: if you see "/profile.myspace.com/" don't clic ;)
18:41 <epsy> yeh
18:42 <epsy> K-Yo, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=New_setting_structure
18:43 <hoop> ct|kyle: oh, u compiled the new branch! we are writing that from beginning, but it's structured better
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18:43 <SpeeDx> omg crap
18:43 <epsy> Exactly!
18:43 <SpeeDx> i need to use that one now :/
18:43 <epsy> ghost settings will be <3 for modules :)
18:43 <epsy> that one?
18:44 <SpeeDx> i mean i cant enter with *speed* only with *speedx*
18:44 <epsy> let's see
18:44 <epsy> @whois speed
18:44 <teabot> epsy: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois".
18:44 <epsy> @network whois speed
18:44 <teabot> epsy: noname (n=nobody@cm-83-97-184-227.telecable.es) has been on server irc.freenode.net since 09:28 AM, September 23, 2008 (idle for 15 minutes and 55 seconds) and isn't on any non-secret channels.
18:44 <hoop> hey SpeeDx
18:45 <SpeeDx> hi hoop
18:45 <epsy> @network whois SpeeDx
18:45 <teabot> epsy: speed (n=speed@ip-88-207-212-29.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu) has been on server irc.freenode.net since 09:42 AM, September 23, 2008 (idle for 6 seconds) and is on #armagetron.
18:45 <SpeeDx> shitty
18:45 <epsy> @network whois epsy
18:45 <teabot> epsy: the epsy (n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy) has been identified on server irc.freenode.net since 08:36 AM, September 23, 2008 (idle for 0 seconds) and is an op on #arma.xclan and is also on #tremfusion, #twisted-rats, #wordpress, #arma.fff, #forsaken, #css, ##javascript, ##c++, ##php, #kameleon-facile, #tremulous, #armagetron, #e.fr, and #afl.
18:45 <SpeeDx> yesterday i was with *speed*
18:45 <K-Yo> epsy: "Attempt making cheating harder" <- is this about macros?
18:45 <epsy> K-Yo, about circumventing settings from server
18:46 <epsy> i wouldn't be handling input from a settings specification, would I? :)
18:46 <epsy> strange, i'm not +i
18:46 <K-Yo> o
18:46 <K-Yo> ok*
18:46 <epsy> @network whois epsy
18:46 <teabot> epsy: the epsy (n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy) has been identified on server irc.freenode.net since 08:36 AM, September 23, 2008 (idle for 1 second) and is an op on #arma.xclan and is also on #twisted-rats and #armagetron.
18:46 <epsy> haha
18:47 <epsy> that's waaay less :]
18:47 <SpeeDx> ha
18:47 <SpeeDx> who is using speed then
18:47 <epsy> * [speed] (n=nobody@cm-83-97-184-227.telecable.es): noname
18:47 <epsy> * [speed] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
18:47 <epsy> * [speed] Fin de la liste WHOIS.
18:47 <SpeeDx> lol kk
18:48 <epsy> either he's on no channel either he's +i
18:49 <epsy> actually if you [ SpeeDx ] do a /whois epsy, you will only see #armagetron
18:49 <SpeeDx> hm
18:50 <K-Yo> what about me
18:50 <epsy> same
18:50 <K-Yo> SpeeDx: in what channels do you see me?
18:50 <K-Yo> ah
18:50 <K-Yo> good
18:50 <K-Yo> tbecause I'm cloaked?
18:51 <epsy> you're not +i
18:51 <epsy> @whois K-Yo
18:51 <teabot> epsy: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois".
18:51 <K-Yo> I'm not
18:51 <epsy> @defaultplugin whois network
18:51 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <epsy> @whois K-Yo
18:51 <teabot> epsy: purple (n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo) has been identified on server irc.freenode.net since 08:01 AM, September 23, 2008 (idle for 8 seconds) and is voiced on #crazy-tronners and is also on #armagetron and #jeuxlinux.
18:51 <epsy> a new sentence wouldn't hurt here
18:51 <K-Yo> :P
18:51 <K-Yo> @stfu about me
18:52 <K-Yo> @help stfu
18:52 <teabot> K-Yo: Error: There is no command "stfu".
18:52 <hoop> SpeeDx, if that nick has not been used for long you may ask them to drop it
18:52 <epsy> hoop, it is being used right now >.>
18:52 <hoop> d'oh
18:52 <K-Yo> epsy: shouldn't we release before moving everything like u want?
18:53 <epsy> exactly, the merge from 0.2.8 to trunk should be done BEFORE we can start that
18:53 <epsy> well, maybe we can start on a child branch from trunk-armagetronad-eevents
18:54 <epsy> but well, for something as important as settings and admin UI, i'd better finish the two blueprints and poll for opinions about it
18:54 <epsy> that's not a light change
18:55 <K-Yo> indeed
18:56 <K-Yo> a poll among devs?
18:56 <K-Yo> you seem to be the only one touching the code atm, maybe with the one in charge of zonesv2 (philippe?)
18:57 <epsy> among SQUAT, the users are heavily concerned as well
18:57 <epsy> ph is not active atm, and neither are zonesv2
18:59 <epsy> luci and zman are quite active as well as me, but the branches are quiet
18:59 <K-Yo> ok
18:59 <K-Yo> we're not that much in SQUAT are we?
19:00 <epsy> nope
19:00 <epsy> we need to get more :)
19:00 <K-Yo> :)
19:00 <epsy> (and tbh it's great to have blueprints/ideas coming from SQUAT)
19:01 <hoop> meh, how do I set hoop|away ?
19:01 <SpeeDx> ow was on the grid sry
19:01 <epsy> (as well as bug reports, hehe)
19:02 <epsy> hoop, you don't
19:02 <SpeeDx> no its ok speedx is fine
19:02 <epsy> hoop, http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:02 <SpeeDx> lol
19:03 <epsy> hoop, just use /away
19:03 <hoop> that's what i meant
19:03 <hoop> ok
19:03 <SpeeDx> .
19:03 <epsy> ..but remember, that having _away nicks suck
19:03 <epsy> eats children etc
19:03 <hoop> you mean hoop_away
19:04 <epsy> i mean hoop|away, hoop_away hoop[away], etc
19:04 <hoop> kk, I just want someone to know I'm not here
19:04 <epsy> and the worse are a^hoop [afk]hoop
19:04 <epsy> use /away, it's made for that
19:04 <hoop> aHwOaOyP ?
19:05 <epsy> use /away <reason> so that they know why you're away
19:05 <K-Yo> hoop: /away
19:05 <epsy> hoop,part of the worse
19:05 <epsy> how are they going to spot you with such a nick?
19:06 <hoop> talkin to me?
19:06 <epsy> talking to aHwOaOyP
19:06 <hoop>  /help hirony
19:07 <hoop> I'm not here, I shouldn't talk!
19:07 <hoop> bbl
19:07 <epsy> <google voice>did you mean "ironry" ?
19:08 <hoop> <google voice>did you mean "irony" ?
19:09 <K-Yo> <human voice> aahh erm eeyyy yes?
19:09 <K-Yo> @spell hirony
19:09 <teabot> K-Yo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
19:09 <K-Yo> .spell hirony
19:09 <tronner> K-Yo: Possible spellings for "hirony": Hurony, hurony, irony, and Mirony.
19:09 <K-Yo> .spell ironry
19:09 <tronner> K-Yo: Possible spellings for "ironry": irony and Ironsy.
19:10 <hoop> .spell irony
19:10 <hoop> damn bots
19:11 <K-Yo> .spell irony
19:11 <tronner> K-Yo: "irony" may be spelled correctly.
19:11 <K-Yo> hoop: you are ignored?
19:11 <K-Yo> .apropos ban
19:11 <tronner> K-Yo: Channel unban, Services unban, ban, ban add, ban list, ban remove, deban, kban, and zbanuj
19:11 <hoop> it said "timed out"
19:12 <K-Yo> .admin ban list
19:12 <hoop> why should I, I almost never use tronner
19:12 <hoop> btw Im not here :P
19:12 <K-Yo> same
19:12 <K-Yo> I'm not here
19:13 <epsy> i r over there!
19:13 <hoop> expacially I'm not reading
19:13 <K-Yo> your reason sucks
19:13 <epsy> i r behind me!
19:13 <K-Yo> dunt u mess wiz me!
19:13 <epsy> its ok i'm hiding behind mahself
19:13 <K-Yo> aah
19:14 <K-Yo> epsy: have u ever seen a guy doing Asnières - Bastille in 20 minutes?
19:14 <K-Yo> open your window an dlook south ;)
19:14 <epsy> uhm..
19:14 <epsy> wut?
19:14 <epsy> i can't look at south thru my window
19:15 <K-Yo> zen ur windo suks bowlz
19:15 <epsy> but still, that's sppedhax
19:15 <K-Yo> actually neither can I
19:16 <K-Yo> :/
19:16 <K-Yo> I can almost only look at the sky
19:16 <K-Yo> how poetic
19:16 <K-Yo> well
19:16 <K-Yo> cu l8tR
19:16 <epsy> you live turned by 90) ?
19:16 <epsy> °*
19:16 <K-Yo> nope
19:16 <K-Yo> I live right under the roof
19:17 <epsy> meh too
19:17 <K-Yo> so, in my room, the ceiling is not horizontal
19:17 <epsy> aah
19:17 <epsy> zomg
19:17 <K-Yo> and the temperature is the same in as outside
19:17 <K-Yo> xD
19:17 <epsy> xD
19:17 <K-Yo> cya
19:17 <epsy> bb
19:17 <epsy> go warm outside
19:39 <hoax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo
19:39 <hoax> i LOL'd
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19:48 <SpeeDx> é
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20:36 <wrtlprnft> epsy: full disk, sorry
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20:57 <akira_arma> oh mx
20:57 <akira_arma> my*
20:57 <akira_arma> group psyche phenomenons are fucking hilarious :D
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21:07 <epsy> @results 1
21:07 <teabot> epsy: Results for poll #1: "+b ivantis?" by epsy - "Yes": 2, "No": 1, and "No": 0
21:09 <hoax> akira_arma :D
21:09 <epsy> madmax, @, zomg, and urmum as well!
21:10 <madmax> you should start saying things in context for a change, but yes, I got it
21:13 <akira_arma> ?
21:15 <epsy> haha :D
21:17 <eddiefantastic> hi wrtlprnft
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21:34 <wrtlprnft> hi eddiefantastic 
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21:47 <Monkey_arma> howdy sithy
21:48 <sithy> ahoi there
21:49 <epsy> 'lut
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21:58 <Monkey_arma> "Recently, Gentoo has begun providing pre-compiled binary packages for many common programs, especially those which are lengthy to compile"
21:58 <Monkey_arma> SACRILIGE!
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22:02 <sithy> well, they've been doing that for a while and it's kinda handy if you're in a rush to use openoffice of something :p
22:02 <epsy> Monkey_arma, it's been like that for a while now
22:02 <epsy> yeah
22:03 <epsy> these binary packages are for the most part, ooo, and mozilla products
22:03 <Monkey_arma> :0
22:04 <Monkey_arma> isn't the whole gentoo philosofy supposed to be "I compile therefore I am"?
22:05 <epsy> no, it's "I compile therefore I choose what I want"
22:05 <epsy> and seriousely, there's no point in compiling firefox, especially since you don't have much compile-time switches
22:07 <luke-jr> wtf, doesn't build on Debian stable.
22:07 <luke-jr> due to autoconf issues
22:07 <luke-jr> -.-
22:08 <Monkey_arma> debian FTL
22:08 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr , install another version of autoconf from the repository
22:09 <sithy> lols@debian
22:10 <Monkey_arma> g5 was smurfing !!!!!!oneon
22:10 <G5> smurfin?
22:11 <Monkey_arma> uhu
22:12 <sithy> G5: spotted
22:14 <epsy> he was smufin as H6!!!!!!!!!OMGBANFROMVIP
22:14 <G5> Im not a little blue man ...
22:15 <G5> yo epsy, btw ...
22:25 <epsy> hi G5
22:28 <madmax> open fort, for those interested
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22:34 <Monkey_arma> *bug*
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22:38 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: both are
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22:38 <Monkey_arma> ?
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22:38 <Monkey_arma> hi Phntom2
22:39 <Phntom2> hwy
22:39 <Phntom2> hey*
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22:41 <ivantis> ho-yah!
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22:51 <sithy> .ls open fortress
22:51 <sithy> or whatever the command is
22:51 <sithy> .help
22:51 <tronner> sithy: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
22:51 <epsy> @sd open fortress
22:51 <teabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “open fortress” at the moment, sorry.
22:51 <tronner> sithy: timed out
22:51 <epsy> @sd open
22:51 <teabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
22:51 <sithy> .sd fortress
22:51 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (8/32): 1200, Chantelle, delarge, JS°, madmax, Monkey (Monkey@forums), van Nelle, ~|DS|~G5
22:52 <sithy> :)
22:52 <epsy> urmum armaservers
22:52 <teabot> epsy: This data is 53 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (10/12), Fortress Café - CT's clone (8/32), The YELLOW Submarine (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), The -=VcL.Clan Server! (7/10), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (6/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (5/14), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (4/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), WILDCAT (1 more message)
22:52 <ct|kyle> .tea
22:52 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (8/32): 1200, Chantelle, delarge, JS°, madmax, Monkey (Monkey@forums), van Nelle, ~|DS|~G5
22:52 <epsy> zomg moar
22:52 <teabot> epsy: (3/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (3/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (2/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (2/14), Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2 (2/4), {Delicious Desserts} Capture The Flag Shooting (1/5), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (1/10), internalDrive -=- iD Tech Camps (1/16)
22:52 <epsy> \o/
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23:12 <madmax> #sd tigers
23:12 <armabot> madmax: Tigers Network Classic Play: Players (0/16):
23:12 <madmax> #sd -v tigers
23:12 <armabot> madmax: Tigers Network Classic Play ( running, url: http://www.armagetronad.net/, Description: ““, Players (0/16):
23:12 <madmax> #sd -v speed blast
23:12 <armabot> madmax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “speed blast” at the moment, sorry.
23:12 <madmax> erm...
23:13 <Lackadaisical> what kinda server is that? is that the one that burns rubber real fast?
23:13 <madmax> not sure, that was to help ashi
23:14 <madmax> the wiki needs a mistery field to register now, "Please sign into the Armagetron Advanced master server list and write in the url associated with Tigers Network Speed Blast."
23:14 <madmax> anyone knows that?
23:14 <madmax> guru3: what's the mistery field on the wiki? speed blast seems to be down
23:16 <guru3> oh er
23:16 <guru3> crap
23:16 <guru3> i forgot about that
23:16 <guru3> actually, i don't even remember setting that
23:16 <madmax> haha
23:17 <guru3> http://tigersnetwork.sytes.net
23:17 <guru3> that's the url though
23:17 <madmax> thanks
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23:31 <Ratchet--> hi
23:33 <luke-jr> blame epsy and xfroggy
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23:38 <K-Yo> I jsut noticed that all team slots are used for ladle :)
23:38 <K-Yo> if we really have 8 full teams, it'll be fun
23:39 <ivantis> hey Ratchet
23:39 <ivantis> you want to learn C++?
23:39 <ivantis> im playing around with this C++ pong game
23:40 <ivantis> that reminds me
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23:50 <Ratchet--> yes I do want to

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00:25 <Ratchet--> okay folks
00:25 <Ratchet--> if you cannot press 3 keys at the same time on tron
00:25 <Ratchet--> its keyboard settings right?
00:27 <K-Yo> depends
00:28 <K-Yo> on my kbd, I can't press right shift + F1 + F3 + F4 at the same time, but I can with right shift +F1+F2+F3
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01:24 <akira_arma> question:
01:24 <akira_arma> can anyone tell me a good free antivir prog for windows?
01:25 <akira_arma> i dont care for real time protection
01:25 <akira_arma> just a good searcher
01:27 <sithy> avast! is good i think, that's what I used to use
01:28 <sithy> akira_arma
01:28 <akira_arma> hm
01:28 <sithy> http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
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01:42 <Monkey_arma> akira_arma avg
01:42 <akira_arma> avg?
01:42 <Monkey_arma> i used to use er... antivir
01:43 <akira_arma> yea me 2
01:43 <Monkey_arma> avg is one, anitivir another
01:43 <akira_arma> i just dont like their realtime protection
01:43 <akira_arma> i dont need it!
01:45 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:45 <Monkey_arma> ah ye
01:45 <Monkey_arma> clamwin
01:48 <akira_arma> nice
01:48 <akira_arma> a GNU one
01:52 <ivantis> virus protectors?
01:52 <ivantis> come on
01:52 <ivantis> antivirus, whatever
01:52 <ivantis> i have never had a virus on my computer
01:52 <ivantis> but i have only used Ubuntu and Macs
01:52 <Monkey_arma> apart from the one i put there
01:52 <Monkey_arma> that you dont know about
01:53 <ivantis> well, i guess i need to download avast
01:53 <akira_arma> i just need a prog to search dubious files
01:53 <akira_arma> thats why i dont need any real time prot
01:53 <akira_arma> cause thats bs in the first place :D
01:54 <ivantis> arg
01:54 <Monkey_arma> i hate that too but you can turn it off akira
01:54 <ivantis> i just changed the colors to foreground green, backgrounds black
01:54 <Monkey_arma> (in antivar)
01:54 <ivantis> its unreadable
01:54 <ivantis> hmm
01:55 <ivantis> thats odd
01:55 <ivantis> it shows colors as spelled wrong
01:55 <ivantis> …
01:55 <ivantis> colours is spelled right
01:56 <akira_arma> i mean you get only virii through silly binaries or really crazy websites
01:56 <ivantis> lolf
01:56 <ivantis> go to comics.com
01:56 <ivantis> they have way too many adds
01:56 <akira_arma> with crazy i mean sneaky sites
01:57 <akira_arma> which uplaod virus parts over time
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01:57 <Monkey_arma> virus can only get there if you put it akira
01:57 <akira_arma> no
01:57 <akira_arma> also
01:57 <Monkey_arma> even on site you gotta download
01:57 <Monkey_arma> ye
01:58 <akira_arma> if you have browser exploits
01:58 <Monkey_arma> *upgrade*
01:58 <akira_arma> like in IE xD
01:58 <Monkey_arma> hehe ye
01:58 <Monkey_arma> who uses ie?
01:58 <Monkey_arma> even on win i used firefox
01:58 <Monkey_arma> and mozilla before that
01:58 <akira_arma> majority still uses #IE
01:59 <akira_arma> not sure why
01:59 <akira_arma> ;)
01:59 <akira_arma> but i can give you a site
01:59 <akira_arma> and you can test if your firefox is safe enough
01:59 <akira_arma> :D
02:00 <Monkey_arma> meh mine is supertuned on linux
02:00 <Monkey_arma> i dont use win
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02:00 <akira_arma> i think it killed mine in aVM when i tested it
02:00 <akira_arma> stupid javascripts
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02:02 <Ratchet--> ugh
02:02 <Ratchet--> hi
02:02 <Ratchet--> I er..
02:02 <Ratchet--> am on ubuntu
02:02 <Ratchet--> help plz
02:02 <Ratchet--> how the fuck i got this here i do not know
02:02 <Ratchet--> but somehow i got this to work
02:03 <Ratchet--> now how the f do you install things for future reference
02:04 <akira_arma> ?
02:04 <Ratchet--> I am on ubuntu
02:05 <Ratchet--> to get this to work I had to download like 10 versions and add it in:
02:05 <Ratchet--> Add/Remove programs
02:05 <akira_arma> i am a dumb windows user :D
02:07 <Ratchet--> Lol
02:07 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
02:07 <Ratchet--> ping ivantis
02:07 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
02:07 <Ratchet--> ping ivantis
02:07 <ivantis> yes?
02:07 <ivantis> what is it obnoxious?
02:07 <Ratchet--> help on ubuntu plz
02:08 <ivantis> did you get wireless working?
02:08 <ivantis> okay what you need?
02:08 <Ratchet--> I am plugged into wire but I THINK i know why its not working
02:08 <ivantis> go on?
02:08 <Ratchet--> I had to check the wireless driver installer thingy in add/remove programs right?
02:08 <ivantis> uh
02:08 <Ratchet--> cuz i checked that
02:08 <Ratchet--> it wasn't
02:08 <ivantis> i think so yeah
02:08 <ivantis> oh
02:08 <Ratchet--> k and:
02:09 <Ratchet--> i installed like 10 different files of xchat
02:09 <Ratchet--> then found it in add remove list and installed
02:09 <ivantis> thats a dumb idea
02:09 <Ratchet--> (magic)
02:09 <Ratchet--> so like how do i install stuff for future reference
02:09 <Ratchet--> its all .rpm files
02:09 <Ratchet--> and archive thing wont take that
02:09 <hoop> rpm are not for ubuntu
02:09 <Ratchet--> -.-
02:10 <ivantis> rotations per minute
02:10 <Ratchet--> tar.bz2 or whatever is
02:10 <Ratchet--> i know that
02:10 <hoop> 'whatever'
02:10 <ivantis> hoop, you can get rpm on ubuntu
02:10 <hoop> there's a big difference
02:10 <ivantis> sudo apt-get install rpm
02:10 <hoop> what's your question Ratchet--
02:11 <Ratchet--> how
02:11 <Ratchet--> do
02:11 <Ratchet--> i
02:11 <Ratchet--> install things
02:11 <Ratchet--> for future
02:11 <Ratchet--> like i dont know ubuntu code at all
02:11 <Ratchet--> and am totally lost
02:11 <hoop> for future?
02:11 <Ratchet--> on windows click click bam bam
02:11 <Ratchet--> on here
02:11 <Ratchet--> (???)
02:12 <hoop> did you try using synaptic?
02:12 <Ratchet--> hint hint
02:12 <Ratchet--> wtf is that
02:12 <Ratchet--> =x
02:12 <hoop> add/remove apps manager
02:12 <Ratchet--> 1 sec
02:12 <ivantis> you know how to use the windows command line?
02:12 <Ratchet--> k there
02:12 <Ratchet--> i do
02:12 <ivantis> what a waste of time
02:13 <ivantis> what in the hell were they thinking?
02:13 <ivantis> rd??
02:13 <ivantis> idiots
02:13 <ivantis> rd deletes stuff right?
02:13 <ivantis> think of it as rm now
02:13 <ivantis> s/d/m/
02:14 <Ratchet--> confused
02:14 <Ratchet--> i know very little of windows dos
02:14 <Ratchet--> like cd \
02:14 <Ratchet--> etc
02:14 <Ratchet--> lol
02:14 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
02:14 <Ratchet--> it's installed already
02:15 <ivantis> another "withwtt" for using \ as folders
02:15 <ivantis> idiots
02:15 <Ratchet--> ivantis
02:15 <Ratchet--> how to build tron on this
02:15 <hoop> Ratchet--, is your nick registered?
02:15 <Ratchet--> i see kdevelop
02:15 <ivantis> ratchet, you will only use / for folders
02:15 <Ratchet--> yes sir
02:15 <ivantis> kdevelop?
02:15 <ivantis> no
02:15 <Ratchet--> hoop yes sir
02:15 <ivantis> never ever use anything that starts with a k
02:16 <Ratchet--> all it has is kdevelop files
02:16 <ivantis> because luke-jr probably helped make it
02:16 <Ratchet--> what do i use then..
02:16 <ivantis> okay
02:16 <ivantis> did you bzr the source?
02:16 <ivantis> you want a sty build right?
02:16 <Ratchet--> its a client
02:16 <Ratchet--> i got source for:
02:16 <ivantis> a client?
02:16 <ivantis> how odd
02:16 <Ratchet--> tbz2
02:16 <ivantis> you ought not to use that
02:17 <Ratchet--> a client is to play teh game
02:17 <Ratchet--> -,-
02:17 <ivantis> okay, so you want to build yourself a sty server?
02:17 <Ratchet--> i want to PLAY
02:17 <Ratchet--> .
02:17 <ivantis> oh
02:17 <hoop> Ratchet--, ubuntu has already armagetronad package
02:17 <Ratchet--> rofl
02:17 <Ratchet--> i tried all of them
02:17 <Ratchet--> fail
02:17 <ivantis> http://armagetronad.net/downloads.php
02:17 <hoop> apt-get install armagetronad
02:17 <ivantis> download the one for ubuntu
02:17 <ivantis> hoop: that one is out of date
02:17 <hoop> who cares
02:17 <Ratchet--> dude
02:17 <Ratchet--> THERES LIKE %)
02:17 <Ratchet--> 50
02:17 <hoop> he wants to play, thats fast
02:17 <Ratchet--> for linux
02:18 <Ratchet--> i need specifics here
02:18 <hoop> Ratchet--, : apt-get install armagetronad
02:18 <Ratchet--> i am 13 and have never left windows
02:18 <Ratchet--> k
02:18 <hoop> in a terminal
02:18 <Ratchet--> i figured that much out
02:18 <Ratchet--> following "wine" tutorial
02:18 <ivantis> dude ratchet
02:18 <ivantis> dont be a noob
02:18 <ivantis> im 13 too
02:18 <ivantis> http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=765&fpos=0
02:19 <ivantis> that is the client for ubuntu
02:19 <Ratchet--> joshua@Home:~$ apt-get install armagetronad
02:19 <Ratchet--> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
02:19 <Ratchet--> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
02:19 <Ratchet--> joshua@Home:~$
02:19 <ivantis> Ratchet: means you need to do sudo apt-get install armagetronad
02:19 <hoop> $ sudo apt-get install armagetronad
02:19 <ivantis> but follow the link
02:19 <ivantis> http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=765&fpos=0
02:19 <ivantis> no
02:19 <ivantis> do not do apt-get install it
02:19 <ivantis> just flipping download from that link
02:19 <ivantis> one more time: http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=765&fpos=0
02:20 <Ratchet--> k its working
02:20 <hoop> ivantis, stfu
02:20 <Ratchet--> ivantis
02:20 <Ratchet--> dude seriously
02:20 <ivantis> yes?
02:20 <Ratchet--> chill out
02:20 <Ratchet--> -.-
02:20 <ivantis> im kind of pissed right now
02:20 <Ratchet--> how do i build my own too hoop
02:20 <Ratchet--> ivantis i am listening to both i will try your way too
02:20 <ivantis> download the source
02:20 <Ratchet--> don't fret
02:20 <Ratchet--> =-x
02:20 <Ratchet--> i got it
02:20 <Ratchet--> already
02:21 <ivantis> k
02:21 <Ratchet--> and extracted
02:21 <ivantis> now
02:21 <ivantis> cd into that directory
02:21 <ivantis> (type cd and drag the folder onto the terminal)
02:21 <ivantis> then press enter
02:21 <Ratchet--> ah mkay
02:21 <Ratchet--> the armagetron folder containing everything?
02:21 <ivantis> yeah
02:21 <ivantis> now
02:21 <ivantis> type ./bootstrap.sh
02:21 <Ratchet--> hoop its done doing whatever it did when i typed that
02:22 <hoop> Ratchet--, are you using xchat?
02:22 <Ratchet--> amazingly i got this to work
02:22 <Ratchet--> so yes
02:22 <hoop> look at the left column
02:23 <Ratchet--> ivantis: you may run build and something
02:23 <Ratchet--> did that work
02:29 <ivantis> …
02:30 <ivantis> sorry i had to pee
02:30 <ivantis> huh?
02:30 <ivantis> i dont understand your question
02:31 <ivantis> ok leaving again i need to eat
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02:31 <hoop> lol
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02:43 <ivantis> huh?
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04:21 <Flex> gn
04:21 <Flex> oops
04:21 <Flex> wrong window
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07:37 <Lucifer> TO HELL WITH YOU TOO AKIRA!!!
07:37 <Lucifer> quiet channel
07:37  * Lucifer yells some more
07:50 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r6 moved folder glade to resources/glade...
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09:34 <Lucifer> yay, now I have more hangers than I have clothes
09:34 <Lucifer> before today, I had fewer hangers than clothes and was living out of a suitcase
09:34  * Lucifer is starting to make his new home a real home
09:49 <arrow> hehe
10:06 <Lucifer> well, it cost me $5 to get some hangers from a dry cleaner
10:06 <Lucifer> I thought they'd just give them to me, but they didn't
10:06 <Lucifer> apparently they reuse the hangers, so they couldn't just give them to me
10:06 <Lucifer> that's ok, though, because $5 for 35 hangers is a good deal (or at least it was last time I checked)
10:07 <Lucifer> and yes, I've been hitting the homebrew tonight, so I'm obsessing over stupid things
10:07 <Lucifer> better than obsessing over the divorce
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11:05 <guru3> luke-jr: * Overlay "armagetron" does not exist!
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11:07 <guru3> never mind
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11:25 <arrow> :D luci
11:25 <arrow> i see u have checked it whole
11:25 <arrow> and u know where to get them cheaper :D
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18:53 <arrow> is someone here for a fort in a half an hour?
18:53 <ct|kyle> .tea
18:53 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (14/32): 11184810, <V>TØ M, akira (akira@forums), asZur, ctt|Puuquie (Puuquie@forums), cTT¤Ðréadlørd, CTxTadd, cT¤K-Yo, Danzer, epsy¦×¦, gama girl, kidwid, SpeeD, ~|ÐS|~PhantøM
18:54 <arrow> cool
19:02 <SpeeD> k
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19:38 <hoop> .tea
19:38 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
19:38 <hoop> .si open
19:38 <tronner> hoop: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (10/12): ctt|Puuquie (Puuquie@forums), cTT¤Ðréadlørd, CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct), CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct), metzí, Sargeras, SpinAce, van Nelle,   apparition
19:41 <SpeeD> lol
19:44 <ct|kyle> hoop: .sumo :P
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19:48 <Monkey_arma> will someone gtfo of sumo so i can enter plz thx
19:51 <akira_arma> just gtf to fortress
19:51 <akira_arma> ;)
19:52 <Monkey_arma> its empty akira
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20:03 <Monkey_arma> .ls psyko
20:03 <tronner> Monkey_arma: timed out
20:06 <hoax> ive started fat fort sessions recently just by going to cafe clone & waiting 3mins like twice now
20:06  * hoax no to emo.
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20:23 <akira_arma> .tea
20:23 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
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20:38 <hoop> .tea
20:38 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (1/32): hoop
20:43 <ct|kyle> .sumo
20:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (12/12): <~|mauzi0|~>, CT_emmy, Evil Red Blood, JennyBug (jenny@ct), Monkey (Monkey@forums), niro, Player 1, SpinAce, _-`Ww_Negative, |x|Cid, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums), °DoCtOr°
20:48 <akira_arma> ...
20:48 <hoop> .tea
20:48 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (7/32): CTxTadd, cT¤K-Yo, hoop, obamania, Realsunji, ubuntu user, |x| Raiden
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21:20 <ct|kyle> #help armaservers
21:20 <armabot> ct|kyle: (armaservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/armaservers.php".
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21:53 <madmax> #tea
21:53 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (16/32): =>FcT<=epsy, Agent 9, akira (akira@forums), CTxTadd, CT_emmy, ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct), cT¤K-Yo, JS°, Kyuubi, oO.k3nNy, Tiger, Zop, _-`Ww_Negative, |x|Cid, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
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22:04 <ivantis> the power went out at my home
22:05 <ivantis> and apparently, it just restarted my computer
22:05 <ivantis> interesting
22:08 <ct|kyle> ivantis: that was buch wiretapping your PC through the power grid
22:10 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r7 added map- and document-0.1.dtd... || [beta2] r6 removed all the machine-built files, and added ./autogen.sh.... || [beta2] moved folder glade to resources/glade...
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22:25 <madmax> ivantis: you need a blog
22:54 <epsy> 100% one liners
23:00 <ivantis> i think it was more like the power went out for less than a second
23:00 <ivantis> which made the computer shut down, but so little time that it auto restarted
23:01 <ivantis> like sometimes when the TV flashes on then off during a storm
23:01 <ivantis> er
23:01 <ivantis> off then on
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23:21 <madmax> #sd deathmatch
23:21 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (3/16): BIG BAD JEW, black Sheep, smws
23:26 <sithy> .tea
23:26 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (14/32): =>FcT<=epFHsy, CT_emmy, ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct), FIFAX, hoop (hoop@forums), JS°, Kyuubi, Lackadaisical, madmax, Monkey (Monkey@forums), moth, pavelo (pavelo@forums),   GoInVeR (GoInVeR@forums), §uper§ymmetry
23:27 <pavelo> that's a lie... i just left there...
23:29 <epsy> whoops

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00:52 <hoop> should 'bzr co' let me update a local branch?
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00:59 <Monkey_arma> yes
00:59 <Monkey_arma> guru3: time to ban someone:
00:59 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18711&highlight=&sid=36de3f572e91d26357896ec44330ce0e
01:01 <guru3> ?
01:03 <luke-jr> …
01:03 <luke-jr> looks pretty clear to me, guru3
01:04 <guru3> well i can't click the link right now
01:04 <guru3> so i was hoping someone would elaborate
01:04 <luke-jr> guru3: it's spam on the forum
01:07 <Monkey_arma> yes its blatant spam
01:07 <guru3> ok
01:07 <guru3> i'll sort it out shortly
01:08 <Monkey_arma> its advertising some pay sites for phone stuff
01:08 <Monkey_arma> no rush, just informing
01:15 <Monkey_arma> ivantis u there?
01:15 <ivantis> yeah
01:15 <ivantis> what?
01:15 <Monkey_arma> got a present for you
01:15 <ivantis> …
01:15 <ivantis> go on?
01:15 <Monkey_arma> http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/School:Computer_science
01:16 <Monkey_arma> The computer programming section is especially useful to you i would guess
01:16 <Monkey_arma> wikiversity ftw
01:16 <ivantis> whats wikiversity?
01:16 <Monkey_arma> its quite new
01:16 <Monkey_arma> its from the makers of wikipedia
01:17 <Monkey_arma> the whole organisation is called "wikimediafoundation"
01:17 <Monkey_arma> wikipedia and wikiversity are just 2 of its projects
01:18 <Monkey_arma> wikiversity = wiki + university
01:18 <ivantis> yeah
01:20 <ivantis> monkey, do you program?
01:20 <ivantis> like C++?
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01:22 <ivantis> ooh, i love books with exercises in them. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C%2B%2B_Programming/Exercises/Variables_and_types
01:23 <Monkey_arma> i used to program in C++ but not for a long time
01:24 <Monkey_arma> at the moment i only do Bash scripting really but I will be doing much more in the future.
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01:27 <ivantis> you should learn perl
01:27 <ivantis> great language
01:30 <ivantis> Write a program that asks the user to type 5 integers and writes the average of the 5 integers. This program can use only 2 variables.
01:30 <ivantis> is that possible?
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01:32 <Monkey_arma> yes
01:32 <ivantis> now that i think about it
01:32 <ivantis> yes
01:32 <Monkey_arma> *but* the *best* way to program it would use more
01:33 <Monkey_arma> about 3 i think
01:35 <ivantis> done!
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01:36 <ivantis> time for my boyscout troop meeting soon
01:36 <ivantis> g'night
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01:40 <Monkey_arma> gn
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02:56 <akira_arma> O.O
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03:05 <deletreado> hola
03:05 <hoax> me n hoop goin fort who's comin
03:13 <akira_arma> hmm
03:13 <akira_arma> lol
03:13 <akira_arma> late!
03:13 <akira_arma> .tea
03:13 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (3/32): hoop, Legit, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
03:13 <akira_arma> :O
03:17 <deletreado> ochenteros
03:20 <ct|kyle> .teas
03:20 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café - CT's clone (5/32): Team gold (26): Legit (8), ¦×¦ Hoax (2); Team blue (2): hoop (2), -=}ID< ¦Lìght¦ (0), akira (0)
03:20 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r9 got rid of warnigs... || [beta2] r8 updated README;...
03:24 <Monkey_arma> deletreado hola
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03:26 <ct|kyle> hoop: :(  ./autogen.sh: line 15: gnome-autogen.sh: No such file or directory
04:28 <hoop> ct|kyle: get gnome-common (~98 Kb)
04:29 <ct|kyle> hoop: 63 kb
04:33 <ct|kyle> hoop: quit button has no function?
04:45 <hoop> ct|kyle, menu?
04:47 <hoop> program's being rewritten so nothing really works atm
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04:59 <ct|kyle> hoop: ya i noticed :P
04:59 <ct|kyle> hoop: looks nice though
04:59 <hoop> :)
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13:45 <hoop> epsy, present?
13:46 <epsy> absent!
13:46 <hoop> I was reading arma blueprints, and found yours about settings
13:46 <epsy> not very finished
13:46 <epsy> it's not sure it even gets in :)
13:46 <hoop> I had an idea about it, time ago
13:47 <hoop> when I was working on zones mod
13:47 <hoop> I had to deal with sanity checks
13:48 <hoop> and tried change settings class to let me assign a min/max value
13:48 <hoop> so it will be chacked everytime it's changed
13:48 <hoop> che*
13:48 <hoop> and only
13:48 <epsy> it will be chicked?
13:48 <hoop> :P
13:49 <epsy> the menu entries have that
13:49 <hoop> woudl that help?
13:49 <epsy> no
13:49 <epsy> well
13:49 <epsy> what is "that"?
13:50 <hoop> the max/min member
13:50 <hoop> well, I wanted to share tihs idea, not sure it's useful though
13:50 <epsy> can be useful
13:50 <hoop> not that special idea too
13:50 <hoop> you know that mod I was working about?
13:51 <epsy> but it wont be a main feature of the new setting structure i proposed, but i will think about it
13:51 <epsy> no?
13:51 <epsy> your crazy-race mod?
13:51 <hoop> no, the zones rendering
13:51 <epsy> oh yeah, that
13:52 <epsy> you got a "mode" setting and you don't want people to enter random numbers, right?
13:52 <hoop> yes, I'd had to check for values not to be bad in zone::render function, but it didn't look nice
13:53 <epsy> yeah, i'll think of "enum" settings too :)
13:53 <hoop> oO
13:55 <hoop> btw settings restructuration as you proposed it is a nice thing, wd
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13:55 <epsy> wowow i detailled about nothing of it
13:56 <hoop> I had another idea looking at kyo's blueprint
13:56 <hoop> I'd like to work on it but I can't atm
13:57 <epsy> what's your idea?
13:57 <hoop> It'd be cool an automated matches engine
13:57 <epsy> yes, that's one of the concepts in mind
13:57 <hoop> something like vip, but not closed and related to forums accounts
13:58 <hoop> I know, it's banal idea, I was wondering how it would be realizable
13:58 <epsy> but K-Yo and me agreed on not detailling the behaviour of MCSs, to let people make something as simple as a server that gets it's matches from mysql tables which are manually managed to a full-fledged match/tournament organizing website
13:59 <hoop> ya, that's cool
14:01 <hoop> I was also wondering, has 0.3 being rewritten from beginning?
14:03 <epsy> no it has not
14:03 <epsy> it heavily differs from 0.2.8 but it's still from the same sources
14:04 <hoop> I don't get why either 0.2.8 and 0.3 are being revisioned
14:05 <hoop> is 2.8 like a place where to test things that will be put on .3
14:05 <epsy> you mean why are they in diff. branches?
14:05 <epsy> it should be the opposite
14:05 <epsy> lol
14:05 <hoop> XD
14:05 <epsy> but currently, it's going this way
14:05 <hoop> why should be opposite
14:06 <hoop> isn't 0.3 the future?
14:06 <epsy> trunk is meant to be unstable and 0.2.8 stable
14:06 <epsy> heck, 0.2.8 has a critical bug open
14:06 <hoop> orly
14:07 <hoop> wouldn't be more efficient to focus on only one trunk?
14:07 <epsy> yes
14:08 <hoop> what's that critical bug?
14:09 <epsy> bug 272398
14:09 <teabot> Launchpad bug 272398 in armagetronad "pthreads not working/not used" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272398
14:10 <hoop> is pthread meant to substitute zthread?
14:10 <epsy> zthread is meant to substitue pthreads
14:11 <epsy> but zthread is 1/ an exotical library and 2/ does not compile without -fpermissive
14:11 <epsy> ideally, trunk will be using boost
14:19 <epsy> z-man, bug 253978 is waiting for your opinion by the way
14:19 <teabot> Launchpad bug 253978 in armagetronad ""Max port" and "Min port" not saved on exiting client." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253978
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19:50 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r11 - added examples and resources/dtd folders...
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20:27  * K-Yo didn't know about #luke-jrisanasshat before 5 minutes ago!
20:28 <mkzelda> i didnt know it was back/still around
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21:22 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Dodgeball/dodgeball-0.1.8.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
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21:32 <hoop> epsy, is it possible to have teabot in #vectron ?
21:39 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Dodgeball/dodgeball-test-0.1.8.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
21:41 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Dodgeball/dodgeball-test-0.1.9.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
21:42 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Dodgeball/dodgeball-test-0.1.91.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
21:49 <akira_arma> .tea
21:49 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (10/32): <V>BâTTLê, AshitakA, CTxTadd, cT¬safarisKater, Saxon, van Nelle, _-`Ww_Negative, ~|DS|~zion,   GoInVeR, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums)
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21:55 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r12 fixed a small error -- copy-pasting someties sucks...
21:58 <epsy> @join #vectron
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22:24 <K-Yo> .cfg2 suspend
22:24 <tronner> K-Yo: ACCESS_LEVEL_VOTE_SUSPEND: Minimal access level required to issue suspend votes. || SUSPEND: Suspend a player from playing for the following N rounds (default: 5) || UNSUSPEND: Removes a player suspension. || VOTING_BIAS_SUSPEND: Add virtual voters that oppose every suspend vote. || VOTING_SUSPEND: Suspends voting for n minutes. || VOTING_SUSPEND_DEFAULT: Default value for VOTING_SUSPEND. || (1 more message)
22:25 <K-Yo> .more
22:25 <tronner> K-Yo: VOTING_SUSPEND_ROUNDS: The number of rounds "/vote suspend " suspends a player for. || VOTING_UNSUSPEND: Allows voting again.
22:29 <K-Yo> .cfg2 access_level
22:29 <tronner> K-Yo: ACCESS_LEVEL: Changes the access level of a configuration item to make it available to lower ranked users || ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT: Minimal access level for chatting. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT_TIMEOUT: Time in seconds between public announcements that someone wants to chat, but can't. Set to 0 to disable the public warnings. || (5 more messages)
22:33 <epsy> K-Yo, looking for..?
22:34 <K-Yo> epsy: I though access level wasn't working, but I already entered it :P
22:35 <hoop> it seems I didn't guess
22:35 <K-Yo> epsy: what is VOTING_SUSPEND_DEFAULT ?
22:35 <K-Yo> oh forget it I get i
22:35 <K-Yo> tt
22:35 <hoop> it's confusing though
22:35 <epsy> it's when you don't enter a number of rounds yourself
22:35 <hoop> it's not
22:36 <epsy> er
22:36 <epsy> voting_ >.>
22:36 <K-Yo> nope, number of minutes
22:36 <epsy> minutes?!
22:37 <K-Yo> VOTING_SUSPEND does NOT exist in the version I have :/
22:37 <hoop> epsy, the one you mean is voting_suspend_rounds
22:37 <hoop> btw, is it that kyo?
22:37 <epsy> K-Yo, upgrade
22:39 <Monkey_arma> VOTES_CANCEL
22:39 <Monkey_arma> VOTES_SUSPEND
22:39 <Monkey_arma> kuyo
22:39 <epsy> mainly because i forgot to change that
22:40 <hoop> VOTING_SUSPEND_ROUNDS: The number of rounds "/vote suspend " suspends a player for.
22:40 <hoop> does that work for '/admin suspend <player>' too?
22:40 <epsy> i changed the _help text naming but not the setting
22:40 <epsy> bii
22:40 <epsy> boo*
22:40 <hoop> oh
22:42 <hoop> erm so, how do you set the /admin suspend default rounds?
22:42 <epsy> i think you can't, I will check
22:43 <epsy> hardcoded >.>
22:43 <hoop> bii
22:43 <epsy> fu ^^
22:43 <hoop> 5 is too long :P
22:45 <hoop> o wait
22:46 <hoop> I didn't mean that, the default for /admin suspend is not important
22:46 <hoop> does VOTING_SUSPEND_ROUNDS do what the help says?
22:46 <epsy> tell me
22:47 <epsy> yes
22:48 <hoop> the name is confusing with VOTING_SUSPEND though
22:49 <epsy> VOTING_SUSPEND was moved
22:49 <epsy> to VOTES_SUSPEND
22:49 <hoop> ok, missed that ^^
22:49 <epsy> it's just that i forgot about VOTING_SUSPEND_DEFAULT
22:55 <epsy> $ ./armagetronad --doc |grep -i suspend
22:55 <epsy> SUSPEND                      Suspend a player from playing for the following N rounds (default is set by SUSPEND_DEFAULT_ROUNDS)
22:55 <epsy> SUSPEND_DEFAULT_ROUNDS       Sets default round timeout for SUSPEND.
22:55 <epsy> UNSUSPEND                    Removes a player suspension.
22:55 <epsy> VOTES_SUSPEND                Suspends voting for n minutes.
22:55 <epsy> VOTES_SUSPEND_DEFAULT        Default value for VOTES_SUSPEND.
22:55 <epsy> VOTES_UNSUSPEND              Allows voting again.
22:55 <epsy> VOTING_BIAS_SUSPEND          Add virtual voters that oppose every suspend vote.
22:55 <epsy> VOTING_SUSPEND_ROUNDS        The number of rounds "/vote suspend <player>" suspends a player for.
22:55 <epsy> good now? :)
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22:59 <madmax> woo didn't know that --doc one
22:59 <madmax> 927 settings >_<
23:00 <epsy> @aawikis console commands
23:00 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands - Console Commands - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
23:01 <epsy> the first thing said there is that it was generated from armagetronad --doc
23:01 <epsy> :P
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23:06 <K-Yo> epsy: upgrade?
23:09 <akira_arma> which version is the latest?
23:09 <akira_arma> i have some probs with the development version
23:09 <akira_arma> crashes + sound
23:10 <K-Yo> epsy: saw that
23:10 <epsy> K-Yo, <epsy> good now? :)
23:10 <K-Yo> what's good?
23:10 <K-Yo> arf
23:10 <K-Yo> I forgot what I needde now
23:11 <K-Yo> but it seems quite clear to me :D
23:11 <epsy> can i commit?
23:11 <K-Yo> is cfg2 dynamically updated?
23:11 <K-Yo> epsy: what is votes_suspend for?
23:12 <K-Yo> what is it worth?
23:12 <hoop> K-Yo, didnt u use that last night?
23:12 <epsy> K-Yo, poll wars?
23:13 <K-Yo> epsy: right
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23:13 <K-Yo> hoop: nope, I used votes_cancel I think
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23:14 <Ratchet--> hello
23:15 <K-Yo> hi Ratchet--
23:15 <epsy> er, i forgot to mention the thing hoop suggested
23:18 <hoop> K-Yo, right, I confused
23:18 <hoop> epsy, what thing?
23:19 <hoop> hi Ratchet--
23:19 <epsy> non-hardcoded default val for that other thing
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23:20 <epsy> aka the SUSPEND command
23:21 <hoop> k
23:21 <epsy> <epsy> z-man, bug 253978 is waiting for your opinion by the way
23:21 <teabot> Launchpad bug 253978 in armagetronad ""Max port" and "Min port" not saved on exiting client." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253978
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23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8568 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs): epsy: fix some confusion with VOTES_SUSPEND and VOTING_SUSPEND
23:22 <Ratchet--> Z-man
23:22 <Ratchet--> are you here z-man
23:22 <epsy> again, bazaarmagetron is faster than the rss feeds ;)
23:22 <hoop> what's bazaarmagetron?
23:23 <epsy> it's z-man hurrying up as fast as possible to merge changes from bzr to svn
23:23 <z-man> what, what, what?
23:23 <epsy> he pretexts it's a bot, thus the name
23:24 <z-man> It is a bot.
23:24 <epsy> :)
23:24 <hoop> lol
23:24 <z-man> The max/min port thing is by design, but that design may be broken :)
23:25 <z-man> Feel free to add config items for it, but make sure you can't reduce the range to something non-functional.
23:25 <epsy> shouldn't it be at least a tSettingItem ?
23:26 <epsy> hmm, hoop's idea becomes useful now
23:26 <ct|kyle> should (-2x+3) (-3-4x) always be written as (2x-3) (4x+3)
23:27 <ct|kyle> good math question for z-man :)
23:28 <z-man> kyle: well, the second one is more readable, but there's no rule enforcing it.
23:28 <z-man> and in fact, if the individual expressions as seen on the left have a meaning, you should leave it like that.
23:28 <ct|kyle> z-man: ya that is what i thought then my math teacher docked me a point
23:28 <z-man> epsy: a tSettingItem can't hurt.
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23:29 <epsy> z-man, we can still go trough dead ways
23:29 <z-man> dead ways?
23:29 <epsy> a sanity check in the menu might come handy..but...
23:30 <epsy> z-man, min port 5000, max port 4000 ?
23:30 <epsy> or does the eMenuSomething do sanity checks itself?
23:34 <hoop> damn I've lost that patch
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23:36 <ct|kyle> thanks z-man for the confirmation that my math teacher is stupid :)
23:36 <z-man> epsy: nope, eMenu does not do any smart checks.
23:36 <hoop> ct|kyle, not all math techers are
23:37 <z-man> It can do range checks, but not check "menu value 1" > "menu value 2".
23:37 <epsy> i mean eMenuItemInt, or something alone these lines
23:37 <epsy> kk
23:37 <hoop> wops, I meant *all* math teachers are
23:41 <ct|kyle> i know
23:45 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r889 fix some confusion with VOTES_SUSPEND and VOTING_SUSPEND...
23:48 <akira_arma> hmm
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23:48 <akira_arma> can anyone help me with the custom camera settings in
23:48 <akira_arma> 0.3*
23:48 <akira_arma> :)
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23:49 <akira_arma> i think i just annoyed the whole fortress server with that
23:49 <Monkey_arma> that explains it
23:49 <Monkey_arma> akira LOL
23:49 <akira_arma> :D
23:49 <akira_arma> you are easy to piss off monkey
23:49 <akira_arma> ;)
23:49 <Monkey_arma> u2
23:49 <akira_arma> yea i admit that
23:49 <akira_arma> hotblooded
23:49 <akira_arma> anyways
23:50 <akira_arma> how do i make it work more like the old one?
23:51 <Monkey_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Custom_Camera
23:52 <madmax> akira_arma: these are my conclusions on 0.3's camera: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18521
23:52 <akira_arma> thanks
23:52 <hoop> PinkTomato, heya :)
23:53 <PinkTomato> hey hoop :)
23:53 <Monkey_arma> also, if you type CAMERA_CUSTOM in the console it will list all commands
23:53 <Monkey_arma> (more than the wiki)
23:53 <Monkey_arma> FAR more
23:53 <Monkey_arma> oh and CAMERA_GLANCE
23:55 <madmax> #seen meriton
23:55 <armabot> madmax: meriton was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 49 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <meriton> hi

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00:02 <madmax> any screen expert? any clue on why it resizes my terminal window when I start it or how to set the desired size in .screenrc?
00:05 <K-Yo> madmax @man screen
00:05 <K-Yo> @man screen
00:05 <teabot> K-Yo: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=screen&exact=1
00:05 <K-Yo> :)
00:06 <K-Yo> (you will need 10 years to read it all)
00:06 <K-Yo>  or /join #screen (i think)
00:08 <madmax> I looked there some time ago, -A would suggest it worked, but not here...
00:08 <K-Yo> I'm a *NIX noob
00:09 <K-Yo> gn
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04:05 <Ratchet--> night all
04:06 <Monkey_arma> gn
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06:27 <Ttech> El l EvE ro o r!r
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14:16 <hoop> epsy, guess what, I used opme last night XP
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19:25 <epsy> \o speed
19:25 <SpeeD> hi
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20:52 <hoax> K-Yo wtf?
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20:58 <hoax> nice to see what wrtlprnft's lent his name too
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21:28 <K-Yo> hoax: you got on my nerves and i'm tired, sry
21:31 <hoax> on your nerves by saying 2 lines?
21:31 <hoax> whatever
21:31 <hoax> don't do it again
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21:38 <K-Yo> o_O
21:39 <K-Yo> hoax: I'm not fond of getting insulted, neither getting orders by someone who shouldn't, nothing against you, but you do both
21:39 <hoax> scuse me?
21:39 <hoax> are we talking about what just happened?
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21:50 <K-Yo> yep
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22:03 <hoax> Ok 1, never insulted you & 2, never gave you orders
22:03 <hoax> lighten up
22:04 <hoax> no one's fond of abuse either
22:05 <K-Yo> (21:31:23) hoax: don't do it again
22:05 <K-Yo> I'd call that a proof
22:06 <K-Yo> and the log of you saying 'no, u stfu'
22:06 <hoax> correction, you told me to stfu
22:06 <hoax> ay which point i said 'no u'
22:08 <hoax> be a badmin all you want but then remove 'cafe clone' from the name
22:20 <akira_arma> lol
22:20 <akira_arma> Have I missed a drama?
22:20 <epsy> ues
22:20 <akira_arma> O.o
22:20 <akira_arma> Tell me!
22:23 <epsy> Hax, then Hax again,
22:23 <epsy> finally, counter-Hax
22:28 <hoax> lame
22:29 <hoax> u get kicked by a ct now akira_arma for saying 'no u'
22:29 <akira_arma> what happened?
22:29 <akira_arma> :)
22:29  * akira_arma is curious
22:29 <epsy> how is Flex doing these days?
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22:36 <Monkey_arma> #flexytime
22:36 <armabot> There was a new soldier named Flex, who used to play tron in clan |x|, they thought he was barmy, not fit for the army and so they just used him for sex.
22:39 <noob13> excuse me while i say "hehe"
22:41 <Flex> who keeps adding that shit..
22:41 <ivantis> know what?
22:41 <Flex> #alias remove flexytime
22:41 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
22:42 <ivantis> i have been appointed by my schools extra-curricular program to design their website
22:42 <Flex> gz
22:42 <ivantis> i am afraid
22:43 <Flex> leave a exploit, then once you leave, deface the site :p
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22:56 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 2
22:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #2: "(11:44:13) eddiefantastic: I'd rather stick my cock in a jar of honey, roll it in oats then feed it to a goat" (added by ct|kyle at 05:49 PM, December 12, 2007)
23:08 <ivantis> will never get old
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23:34 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r16 improved (i hope) the way the program finds its data:... || [beta2] r15 src/document-helpers.h...
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00:16 <_Ratchet> =o
00:17 <ivantis> yeah?
00:17 <_Ratchet> hi
00:22 <Monkey_arma> ratchet come fort for a bit
00:22 <Monkey_arma> if you want
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01:07 <Joshua_x_> I would
01:07 -!- Joshua_x_ is now known as Ratchet--
01:07 <Ratchet--> but I never look at thi
01:07 <Ratchet--> i have to get into habit of reading this
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01:27 <Ratchet--> >.<
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02:29 <ivantis> you know what i really hate?
02:30 <hoop> yourself?
02:30 <ivantis> people pretending they can do things
02:30 <ivantis> which they really cant
02:31 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: http://www.mogulus.com/reason  (the debate of the debate)
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02:35 <Ratchet--> monkey
02:37 <Ttech> mono
02:37 <Monkey_arma> hey
02:44 <Lucifer> [19:30] <hoop> yourself?
02:44 <Lucifer> [19:30] <ivantis> people pretending they can do things
02:44 <Lucifer> [19:30] <ivantis> which they really cant
02:44 <Lucifer> hoop was right
02:44 <ivantis> what?
02:44 <ivantis> what am i pretending?
02:46 <ct|kyle> you pretend to program in C++ but you really can't
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02:51 <hoop> "I hate people talking about people"
02:52 <ivantis> ct|kyle: how right you are
02:53 <Lucifer> man, hoop is on a roll tonight!
02:53 <hoop> or "I hate racists, as like as I hate niggers"
02:53 <Lucifer> hoop's roll has stopped
02:53 <hoop> can't remember the author :S
02:53 <Lucifer> did you vote for Arnold Shootthenigger?
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02:54 <ct|kyle> time for the debate
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02:54 <ivantis> did my part message come in color?
02:54 <ct|kyle> nope
02:54 <Lucifer> no
02:54 <ivantis> why did hoax's?
02:54 <Lucifer> but we can pretend it did
02:54 <Lucifer> hoax's didn't either
02:54 <hoop> ivantis, I used teabot's opme command -> fucked up the bot
02:54 <ct|kyle> only n00bs write in color all the time
02:55 <ivantis> yes
02:55 <ivantis> hoax's did
02:55 <ivantis> (:: NoNameScript 4.21 ::)
02:55 <Lucifer> nope, still no color
02:55 <ivantis> the part after (:: was in black
02:55 <ivantis> instead of the default brown
02:56 <Lucifer> only noobs write in color END OF SENTENCE
02:56 <hoop> hoax hax
02:56 <Lucifer> maybe you've got a virus, ivantis?
02:57 <Lucifer> you run windows, right?  I'm sure you have *something*
02:57 <ivantis> no
02:57 <ivantis> i run ubuntu
02:57 <ivantis> and...
02:57 <ivantis> it always comes in like that
02:57 <ivantis> how weird
02:57 <hoop> hoax è uscito ("(:: NoNameScript 4.21 ::)") this one?
02:57 <ivantis> yes
02:58 <ivantis> the part after (:: was in black
02:58 <hoop> oh you mean it is half black and half brown?
02:58 <ivantis> yes
02:58 <hoop> can't see that :\
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02:58 <ivantis> the default part color in XChat
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02:58 <ivantis> not in color either
02:58 <Lucifer> it was all in purple for me when hoax left
02:58 <Lucifer> maybe he's using some hack that only works on your irc client
02:58 <Lucifer> what are you using?
02:58 <ivantis> XChat
02:59  * Lucifer is using konversation
02:59 <ivantis> CTCP VERSION me
02:59 <ivantis> i have a good custom reply
02:59 <ivantis> eww, dont use konversation! ill bet luke-jr touched the coding of konversation
03:00 <Lucifer> heh
03:00 <Lucifer> don't play arma, then
03:00 <ivantis> well
03:00 <hoop> haha
03:00 <ivantis> it is a must
03:00 <ivantis> but
03:00 <ivantis> konversation still isnt as good as xchat
03:00 <ivantis> i have tried it yes
03:00 <ivantis> i do like konqueror
03:00 <Lucifer> it's better than your penis, and that's all that matters
03:00 <ivantis> does anyone use my penis as an IRC client?
03:00 <ivantis> no
03:01 <Lucifer> of course not, it sucks!
03:01  * Lucifer is off to finish fixing his amp
03:01 <ivantis> you mean it gets sucked
03:02 <ivantis> i dont like the way all the K* apps look
03:02 <ivantis> just something about that window design
03:02 <ivantis> i hate it!
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03:03  * hoop2 is trying konversation right now
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03:03 <ivantis_> see>
03:03 <ivantis_> ?
03:03 <ivantis_> s/>/?/
03:03 <ivantis_> i just dont like this
03:04 <ivantis_> it feels weird
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03:04 <ivantis> as well as
03:04 <ivantis> my lag in konversation was higher than with xchat
03:05 <ivantis> it has a bunch of weird things that make it run slow
03:06 <hoop2> konv has the url catcher though :o
03:06 <ivantis> so does xchat
03:06 <hoop2> orly?
03:06 <ivantis> YO.MA.MA.com
03:06 <ivantis> it turns into a link
03:07 <ivantis> maybe you have an old version
03:07 <ivantis> 2.8.4
03:07 <ivantis> hmm
03:07 <hoop2> I said 'url catcher'
03:07 <ivantis> url catcher...
03:07 <hoop2> not linkifier
03:07 <ivantis> wha izzat?
03:07 <hoop2> run konv
03:07 <ivantis> k
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03:08 <ivantis_> http://LOL.WUT/?
03:08 <hoop2> and a builtin terminal too :o
03:08 <ivantis> …
03:08 <Monkey_arma> xchat has linux which has a terminal
03:08 <ivantis> okay konversation is better
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03:09 <hoop2> Monkey_arma: whaaaaaaaaat?
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03:10 <hoop2> never tried konv before, tbh I didn't even know it was installed XD. however it looks far better than xchat
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03:11 <ivantis> htf do i set auto login stuff?
03:11 <Monkey_arma> well it may look better because it uses QT
03:11 <Monkey_arma> but xchat is good
03:11 <Monkey_arma> (looks are not everything)
03:11 <ivantis> no
03:11 <ivantis> i hate how this looks
03:11 <ivantis> but i hate how xchat parses links
03:11 <Monkey_arma> i have configured xchat quite nicely
03:11 <hoop> I mean 'look' not related just to the graphics
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03:12 <Monkey_arma> hoop you use tabs in xchat ye?
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03:12 <Monkey_arma> coz the tree looks lame
03:12 <ivantis> i missed xchat
03:12 <hoop> oh! didn't know xchat had tabs
03:13 <Monkey_arma> hoop DCC me a screenshot of your xchat and your konversation
03:13 <Monkey_arma> i send you mine
03:13 <hoop> i'm not talkin about grahpics 'look'
03:13 <Monkey_arma> i understand
03:13 <hoop> I meant the program 'looks' better
03:14 <Monkey_arma> you dont use tabs?
03:14 <hoop> as a first approach
03:14 <Monkey_arma> then you really have not looked at xchat much
03:14 <hoop> i switched now
03:14 <Monkey_arma> tabs is the first thing i change
03:14 <hoop> have you tried konversation?
03:14 <Monkey_arma> no
03:14 <Monkey_arma> i dont have kde/QT on my computer
03:14 <Monkey_arma> and dont want to either
03:14 <hoop> why you even talk then
03:15 <Monkey_arma> i have used kde
03:15 <Monkey_arma> dont like it
03:15 <Monkey_arma> im not saying xchat is amazing, but its good
03:15 <hoop> we were comparing 2 programs here
03:16 <hoop> not saying 'xchat sucks' or things like that
03:17 <Monkey_arma> i was just saying that i guess like many other people you have not customised it enough
03:17 <Monkey_arma> i was not saying its better than konv
03:17 <Monkey_arma> or worse
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03:19 <hoop> hoop2
03:19 <Ratchet--> monkey?
03:19 <Monkey_arma> yes?
03:19 <Ratchet--> Twinx
03:19 <Ratchet--> you know em?
03:20 <Monkey_arma> yes
03:20 <Ratchet--> he's my clanmate, mind if he joins our team as 9th player? (he's very good)
03:21 <Ratchet--> er i'll try asking Lackadaisical if needed
03:21 <hoop> Ratchet-- have built arma?
03:21 <Ratchet--> not yet, i'm on windows atm
03:21 <Ratchet--> internet wire in use
03:21 <Ratchet--> ft
03:21 <Ratchet--> l
03:21 <hoop> :(
03:21 <Ratchet--> its weekend
03:21 <Ratchet--> i'l be on all night
03:22 <Ratchet--> will you
03:22 <Ratchet--> :D
03:22 <Ratchet--> ping Lackadaisical
03:22 <Monkey_arma> well like i said to weed, if he posts then he can be reserve
03:23 <Monkey_arma> but reserve means he only gets to play if others cant
03:23 <Ratchet--> okay I'll find him asap
03:23 <Ratchet--> I hope durka don't mind but he had a 'pm' instead of 'am' in one of the times so i fixed
03:24 <Monkey_arma> im sure he wont as long as you are in  the right
03:25 <Ratchet--> i triple checked :d
03:25 <Ratchet--> i am
03:26 <Ratchet--> would i get in trouble for making a page on wiki for signing
03:26 <Ratchet--> like a autograph book
03:26 <Monkey_arma> btw its not about who is the most skillful player
03:26 <Monkey_arma> so the first 8 still get priority
03:26 <Ratchet--> i understand as much
03:27 <Ratchet--> just don't want to totally kill the team
03:27 <Ratchet--> no pun intended
03:28 <Monkey_arma> u r fine
03:28 <Monkey_arma> it will be fun
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03:37 <Ratchet--> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Signature_book
03:37 <Ratchet--> =-x
03:42 <ivantis> yawn
03:44 <Monkey_arma> ..
03:45 <akira_arma> ...
03:45 <akira_arma> ....
03:45 <akira_arma> its weird how used you can get to a certain viewpoint in tron
03:45 <akira_arma> become*?
03:46 <akira_arma> i wonder why they changed the camera settings :/
03:54 <akira_arma> lucifer are you around?
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05:13 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Race/race1-0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
05:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/ZURD/Race/race1-0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by ZURD
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05:50 <Lucifer> akira_arma: sorta, what's up?
06:10 <Ratchet--> hey guysssss
06:11 <Monkey_arma> hey
06:12 <luke-jr> rofl @ BillyCrook, eh Lucifer?
06:12 <Ratchet--> monkey
06:12 <Ratchet--> is
06:13 <Ratchet--> bloodshed dev c++
06:13 <Ratchet--> good?
06:13 <luke-jr> no
06:13 <Monkey_arma> what is bloodshed?
06:13 <luke-jr> sounds like an IDE
06:13 <Monkey_arma> do you want my wikimedia link ratchet?
06:14 <Monkey_arma> http://www.wikimedia.org/
06:14 <Monkey_arma> check out wikibooks and wikiversity ratchet, for learning stuff, especially computing
06:15 <Monkey_arma> gn
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06:16 <Ratchet--> http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
06:16 <Ratchet--> check that out someone
06:16 <Ratchet--> tell me if that looks good :X
06:18 <Ratchet--> ping ivantis
06:18 <Ratchet--> ping luke-jr
06:18 <Ratchet--> you here luke
06:18 <luke-jr> NO
06:18 <Ratchet--> ah k
06:18 <luke-jr> I AM NOT
06:18 <luke-jr> unless you're prepared to fork over $35/hr
06:19 <Ratchet--> i can work that out seeing i need about 10 minutes
06:19 <luke-jr> billing is by the hour, not by the minute
06:20 <Ratchet--> k so its free
06:21 <Ratchet--> If you are willing to help i want to switch over to ubuntu and build arma from source
06:22 <luke-jr> you need to learn to count
06:22 <Ratchet--> i don't know how on thar
06:22 <luke-jr> good
06:22 <luke-jr> you shouldn't build from source on Ubuntu
06:22 <luke-jr> Ubuntu isn't a source-based OS
06:22 <Ratchet--> ..
06:22 <Ratchet--> kiss my ass :p
06:22 <luke-jr> no
06:22 <luke-jr> your donkey is quite frankly
06:22 <luke-jr> UGLY
06:22 <Ratchet--> lol
06:27 <Ratchet--> what you doing luke
06:27 <luke-jr> lamenting a protestant in #jesus
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07:47 <akira_arma> well lucifer
07:47 <akira_arma> if you are still here
07:48 <akira_arma> is there any way to speed up the return of the glances in 0.3?
07:49 <Lucifer> yeah, but I don't know it
07:49 <Lucifer> sorry
07:49  * Lucifer is going to bed now, 'night
07:50 <akira_arma> night..
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15:58 <ivantis> i cant believe it
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16:36 <ivantis> #eliza hi
16:36 <armabot> ivantis: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
16:36 <ivantis> #eliza nothing much
16:36 <armabot> ivantis: Why do you say nothing much?
16:37 <ivantis> #eliza i dont know
16:37 <armabot> ivantis: Why do you say you do not know?
16:37 <ivantis> #eliza because you are a noob
16:37 <armabot> ivantis: Is it because i are a noob that you came to me?
16:37 <ivantis> #eliza no, it is because you are a noob
16:37 <armabot> ivantis: Is it because i are a noob that you came to me?
16:37 <ivantis> fool
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16:47 <noob13> #eliza have you met ivantis?
16:47 <armabot> noob13: What do you think?
16:47 <ivantis> #eliza noob13 is a noob
16:47 <armabot> ivantis: Why do you say noob13 is a noob?
16:47 <ivantis> #eliza because he is
16:47 <armabot> ivantis: Does it bother you that i ask you that?
16:47 <ivantis> #eliza not at all
16:47 <armabot> ivantis: Why do you say not at all?
16:47 <noob13> ;P
16:48 <hoop> #eliza we are all noobs
16:48 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say you are all noobs?
16:48 <hoop> #do you know what is a noob?
16:48 <armabot> Another day...
16:48 <hoop> #eliza probably
16:48 <armabot> hoop: Can you elaborate on that?
16:48 <hoop> #eliza yes
16:48 <armabot> hoop: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
16:49 <hoop> #eliza hard to sustain a dialog with you
16:49 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say hard to sustain a dialog with me?
16:49 <hoop> lol
16:50 <hoop> #eliza because my english sucks and you too
16:50 <armabot> hoop: Is it because your english sucks and me too that you came to me?
16:50 <hoop> #eliza yes
16:50 <armabot> hoop: I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
16:50 <noob13> -.-
16:50 <hoop> #eliza -.-
16:50 <armabot> hoop: Can you elaborate on that?
16:51 <hoop> #eliza 1+1?
16:51 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:51 <hoop> #eliza 3
16:51 <armabot> hoop: Can you elaborate on that?
16:51 <noob13> it apparently doesn't know too many replies :P
16:52 <hoop> more than my aunt
16:52 <noob13> #eliza who is your father? [expecting "what do you think?"]
16:52 <armabot> noob13: Tell me something about my family.
16:52 <noob13> oh!
16:52 <hoop> :o
16:53 <hoop> #eliza who are you?
16:53 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:53 <hoop> #eliza I think you are a fat ugly woman
16:53 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say you think i are a fat ugly woman?
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16:54 <hoop> #eliza what do you think?
16:54 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:54 <hoop> #eliza what do you think?
16:54 <noob13> hehe
16:54 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:54 <hoop> lol
16:55 <hoop> #eliza can you elaborate on that?
16:55 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
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16:55 <hoop> :X
16:55 <hoop> #eliza do you know monkey?
16:55 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:55 <hoop> #eliza I think not
16:55 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say you think not?
16:55 <Monkey_arma> #eliza why does eliza smell?
16:55 <noob13> #eliza is Monkey_arma your father?
16:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: What do you think?
16:55 <armabot> noob13: What do you think?
16:55 <Monkey_arma> #eliza I think you suck and only answer with questions
16:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Please, watch your tongue!
16:56 <Monkey_arma> :0
16:56 <hoop> #eliza how old are you?
16:56 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:56 <noob13> #eliza what time is it?
16:56 <armabot> noob13: What do you think?
16:56 <hoop> #eliza I think nothing
16:56 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say you think nothing?
16:56 <Monkey_arma> #eliza why do you only answer with questions?
16:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: What do you think?
16:56 <noob13> #eliza ?!
16:56 <Monkey_arma> ..
16:56 <armabot> noob13: Can you elaborate on that?
16:56 <hoop> #eliza do you learn?
16:56 <armabot> hoop: What do you think?
16:56 <hoop> :\
16:56 <Monkey_arma> #eliza what do you think of emacs?
16:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: What do you think?
16:57 <Monkey_arma> #eliza i think it and you both suck
16:57 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Please, watch your tongue!
16:57 <hoop> #eliza forgive Monkey_arma
16:57 <armabot> hoop: Why do you say forgive monkey arma?
16:57 <noob13> #elizawatch your tongue!!!
16:57 <Monkey_arma> eliza is the dumbest AI I have ever seen, it makes 0.2.8 chatbot seem clever
16:58 <noob13> :P
16:58 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r17 removed the funk :(...
16:58 <Monkey_arma> #eliza watch your tongue!
16:58 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Why do you say watch my tongue?
16:58 <Monkey_arma> #eliza What do you think?
16:58 <armabot> Monkey_arma: What do you think?
16:59 <Monkey_arma> #eliza What do you think?
16:59 <armabot> Monkey_arma: What do you think?
16:59 <Monkey_arma> bah enough
16:59 <noob13> yeh ;ÖP
16:59 <noob13> how're you doing Monkey_arma?
17:00 <Monkey_arma> im ok and u?
17:01 <noob13> chilled on a saturday..
17:01 <Monkey_arma> ye
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18:59 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r18 user test...
19:13 <Monkey_arma> .ls max
19:13 <tronner> Monkey_arma: MAD MAX seems to be on The YELLOW Submarine right now.
19:13 <Monkey_arma> the lol
19:20 <noob13> hehehe :P
19:21 <noob13> .ys
19:21 <tronner> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine: Players (5/16): Alexurfather, all, ARKHAM, MAD MAX, nature
19:33 <epsy> @sd the other
19:33 <teabot> epsy: The OTHER Submarine: Players (0/16):
19:33 <epsy> \o/
19:37 <noob13> demand for shitty settings is high these days ;P
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19:59 <luke-jr> is trunk at all usable right now?
19:59 <Monkey_arma> not if you have a recent version of FTGL
20:01 <luke-jr> …
20:01 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r19 user test 2...
20:03 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: as a server?
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20:07 <akira_arma> .tea
20:07 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (12/32): <V>TØ M, Concord, CT_emphasis (emphasis@ct), CT~Voodoo (Voodoo@ct), cT¤K-Yo, FLP|RAM, Nosferatu, R3P . <0rn, SageLord (SageLord@forums), ubuntu user, _-`Ww_ Negative, |x| Raiden
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20:41 <pippijn> hi all
20:42 <epsy> hi
20:44 <pippijn> so the 0.2.8 branch is still alive?
20:46 <epsy> no, it was murdered
20:47 <pippijn> oh
20:47 <pippijn> good
20:47 <pippijn> so now you are going to move towards the c++ stdlib?
20:48 <epsy> nah, it's still there, and it has plans upon killing us
20:48 <pippijn> oh?
20:50 <epsy> bug 272398 needs fixing, or workaround >.>
20:50 <teabot> Launchpad bug 272398 in armagetronad "pthreads not working/not used" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272398
20:50 <epsy> pippijn, no, .2.8.3 was still not released
20:51 <pippijn> hm
20:51 <pippijn> ok
20:53 <epsy> bump z-man about it :P
20:53 <pippijn> I have
20:53 <pippijn> he told me to wait a few months
20:54 <pippijn> I waited a few months..
20:59 <epsy> how many months now?
21:00 <pippijn> hm
21:00 <pippijn> I think I was here last winter
21:01  * pippijn looks at his logs
21:01 <pippijn> yes
21:01 <pippijn> epsy: january 27
21:01 <epsy> :|
21:02 <epsy> i guess it's stable enough, except for the pthreads issue
21:03 <epsy> (stable enough for a beta i mean)
21:03 <pippijn> *sigh*
21:05 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r20 src/document.cpp...
21:05 <pippijn> s/Array/std::vector/
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21:21 <pippijn> hi zmanuel
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21:50 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr idk probably ok ye
21:51 <Monkey_arma> i think most people use 0.2.8 tho for server
21:51 <Monkey_arma> why would you want 0.3?
21:54 <pippijn> Monkey_arma: map rotation
21:54 <pippijn> does 0.2.8 have that, now?
21:54 <Monkey_arma> i think the trunk might idk
21:54 <Monkey_arma> er the latest alpha i mean
21:54 <Monkey_arma> ask eddiefantastic he is clued up on that
22:02 <pippijn> ok
22:10 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: no idea, customer orders
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22:20 <epsy> luke-jr, you sure it doesnt compile?
22:20 <epsy> what's the error about?
22:20 <epsy> I currently get it to compile
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22:21 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf?
22:22 <epsy> luke-jr, about trunk not compiling
22:22 <luke-jr> I said nothing of the sort!
22:23 <epsy> sure depends on what you mean with usable indeed heh
22:23 <luke-jr> I asked a question.
22:23 <luke-jr> I got an answer.
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00:55 <Monkey_arma> guru3 is the forum registration working? One guy says his account does not exist but he registered and clicked the link in the email. He is a bit thick though.
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01:07 <guru3> afaik it works
01:10 <Monkey_arma> ok guru3 he says his email address is banned
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01:10 <Monkey_arma> but he says he has never posted on those forums ever, under any name
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01:10 <guru3> what e-mail address is he using?
01:10 <Monkey_arma> this is dreadlord/Killer4you we are talking about
01:13 <Monkey_arma> angehogen.lauenau@web.de
01:13 <Monkey_arma> guru3
01:13 <guru3> hmm
01:13 <guru3> yeah registrations from that e-mail were banned
01:13 <guru3> probably because of several spam accounts using that as an email
01:14 <Monkey_arma> really?
01:14 <Monkey_arma> so what do i tell this guy?
01:14 <Monkey_arma> he is in CT you know
01:14 <Monkey_arma> has been playing quite a while
01:14 <Monkey_arma> well CTT
01:14 <guru3> to use a different email address
01:14 <guru3> because i'm not unbanning all of @web.de just for him
01:14 <Monkey_arma> does it mean his address has been hacked?
01:14 <guru3> no
01:14 <Monkey_arma> ahh
01:14 <Monkey_arma> its that domain
01:15 <guru3> it means a lot of spam accounts were created from web.de
01:15 <Monkey_arma> ok
01:15 <Monkey_arma> so he needs new email
01:15 <guru3> have him bitch at his email company
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01:16 <hoax> Monkey_arma unsilence me you fucking dick
01:16 <hoax> get a life bro
01:17 <Monkey_arma> hoax shut your damn mouth
01:17 <Monkey_arma> dont tell us all how to admin
01:17 <Monkey_arma> kyo should have banned you
01:17 <hoax> this is plain abuse
01:17 <Monkey_arma> shut up
01:17 <hoax> or what?
01:17 <hoax> you cant silence me here
01:17 <Monkey_arma> but i can ignore u
01:17 <Monkey_arma>  /ignore
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01:18 <hoax> eddiefantastic ABUSE
01:18 <Monkey_arma> sort yourself out, get some manners and people wont keep kicking you or silencing you
01:18 <Monkey_arma> eddiefantastic speak to kyo about hoax...
01:18 <hoax> you're such a small man monkey
01:18 <Monkey_arma> i am with kyo on this one
01:18 <Monkey_arma> you are ..youre a little runt
01:18 <hoax> get a life honestly
01:18 <Monkey_arma> thing your some bad boy
01:18 <hoax> silencing me for what? helping dread try to play
01:18 <Monkey_arma> get a life yourself
01:18 <Monkey_arma> for interfering always
01:19 <Lucifer> hey, can someone ping something for me?
01:19 <Lucifer> luciferarma.kicks-ass.net
01:19 <Lucifer> I need to know what IP address that resolves to, and for some reason can't
01:19 <Monkey_arma>
01:19 <hoax> maybe if you wernt a wasteman, or it was actually your server I would take it, you can run it how you want, but when it's not even your server I object to being blatantly badmined.
01:20 <Monkey_arma> shut up
01:20 <Monkey_arma> i object to your constant mouth
01:20 <hoax> didnt you ignore me?
01:20 <Monkey_arma> <Monkey_arma> but i can ignore u
01:20 <Monkey_arma> *can*
01:20 <hoax> so dont tell me to shut up foo this is a public irc channel
01:20 <Monkey_arma> learn to read
01:20 <Monkey_arma> shut up
01:20 <hoax> so stfu with 'shut up'
01:21 <Monkey_arma> shh now you are getting boring
01:21 <hoax> go diaf & save the uk gov 50quid a week
01:21 <Monkey_arma> guru3 ok thx he will do that
01:21 <Lucifer> er, I don't see eddiefantastic talking here
01:22 <Monkey_arma> he cant get a word in with hoax talking
01:22 <akira_arma_> O.O
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01:31 <ratchet--> =o
01:31 -!- ratchet-- is now known as Ratchet--
01:31 <Ratchet--> stop arguing
01:33 <luke-jr> no
01:34 <hoax> power trip ftl.
01:34 <Monkey_arma> hoax you are the only one here with power issues
01:39 <hoax> wow
01:39 <hoax> you actually left the server
01:39 <hoax> w/o even unsilencing
01:40 <hoax> ...
01:40 <Monkey_arma> ...
01:40 <Monkey_arma> it will do you good
01:40 <Monkey_arma> one day you may thank me...
01:40 <Monkey_arma> or you may not...
01:40 <hoax> everyone on the server is against your decision
01:40 <akira_arma_> indeed
01:40 <Monkey_arma> durka ?
01:40 <Monkey_arma> he is a great guy to talk
01:41 <Ratchet--> what server is this
01:43 <luke-jr> stfu
01:43 <Ratchet--> make me
01:44 <luke-jr> rly?
01:44 <luke-jr> /join #anime
01:49 <Ratchet--> how to accept
01:49 <Ratchet--> #accept
01:50 <luke-jr> /join #anime
01:51 <Ratchet--> can msn add gmail names
01:51 <luke-jr> no
01:51 <luke-jr> cuz  MSNsucks
01:53 <Ratchet--> kinda like you!
01:54 <Ratchet--> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Signature_book
01:54 <Ratchet--> sign it you dopes!
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02:20 <luke-jr> stupid durka
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02:31 <hoop> .tea
02:31 <tronner> hoop: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
02:31 <hoop> .si sumo
02:31 <tronner> hoop: Wild West  =Sumo=: Players (4/14): Gnomerogue, ShåÐé1, skittles, {R3P>nat}
02:31 <Monkey_arma> fort
02:31 <hoop> .si taem sumo
02:31 <tronner> hoop: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “taem sumo” at the moment, sorry.
02:31 <hoop> .si team sumo
02:31 <tronner> hoop: [ omGroup.de ][ Team Sumo Server ][ #2 ]: Players (0/16):
02:31 <Monkey_arma> .si fort
02:31 <tronner> Monkey_arma: Fortress Authenticated: Players (15/15): 1200 (1200@forums), bit7 (bit7@forums), cTT|Dreadlord (dreadlord@forums), delarge (delarge@forums), Fault Finder (Minefield@forums), fingerbib (fingerbib@forums), Flex (Flex@forums), ghableska (Ghableska@forums), Monkey (Monkey@forums), radian (radian@forums), |x| viper (-viper-@forums), ~|DS|~zion (zion@forums),   Durka (DDMJ@forums), ¥|»shàq (1 more message)
02:31 <Monkey_arma> ..
02:32 <hoop> oO
02:44 <Ratchet--> i am requesting a good c++ compiler/editor/ide or whatnot for windows
02:45 <Ratchet--> if no one can help me find one thatfits me then i will just use msvs c++
02:48 <Monkey_arma> for editor i use vim
02:48 <Monkey_arma> some use jed
02:48 <Monkey_arma> or others
02:48 <Monkey_arma> kate
02:49 <Monkey_arma> ah thats linux
02:49 <Monkey_arma> vim is the best IMO but takes some learning
02:53 <luke-jr> …
02:53 <luke-jr> stupid durka
02:53 <hoop> Ratchet--: looks like code::blocks is good
02:53 <luke-jr> hoop: IDEs ftl
02:54 <Ratchet--> are there any for Forms applications?
02:54 <Ratchet--> with the interface maker mabob
02:54 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: C++ is fail
02:54 <luke-jr> and Forms is not C++
02:54 <luke-jr> Forms is .NET C# etc crap
02:55 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: get Qt
02:55 <Ratchet--> Forms can be done in C++
02:55 <Ratchet--> Kthx.
02:55 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: NO
02:55 <Ratchet--> luke-jr,  YES
02:55 <luke-jr> then it is .NET, not C++
02:55 <Ratchet--> SUCK IT
02:56 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: go do !loli again
02:56 <Ratchet--> no
02:56 <luke-jr> YES
02:57 <Ratchet--> ping monkey
02:57 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
02:57 <hoop> .seen monkey
02:57 <tronner> hoop: I have not seen monkey.
02:57 <luke-jr> hoop: plz shoot Ratchet-- for me kthx
02:57 <Ratchet--> hoop
02:57 <Ratchet--> can c++ make a forms application
02:58 <hoop> you mean GUIs?
02:58 <Ratchet--> i mean like windows calculator
02:58 <Ratchet--> notepad
02:58 <Ratchet--> etc something that runs on desktop
02:58 <hoop> those are GUI apps
02:58 <hoop> .g GUI
02:58 <tronner> hoop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface - Graphical user interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:58 <Ratchet--> can c++ make them
02:58 <luke-jr> no, C++ can't do GUI
02:58 <Ratchet--> -.-
02:58 <Ratchet--> then wtf is it used for..
02:59 <hoop> u mean on windows?
02:59 <Monkey_arma> ratchet?
02:59 <luke-jr> console apps?
02:59 <Ratchet--> you can't use it on websites...
02:59 <luke-jr> libraries?
02:59 <Ratchet--> that's like completely pointless
02:59 <Ratchet--> i want something where i  can make a program and run it with a window on desktop
02:59 <Ratchet--> yes on windows
02:59 <luke-jr> C++ is completely pointles, yes
02:59 <Monkey_arma> c++ can make apps
02:59 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: Qt
03:00 <Monkey_arma> but you need a toolkit to go with it
03:00 <Ratchet--> so it CAN make gui's?
03:00 <hoop> Monkey_arma: ping
03:00 <Monkey_arma> unless you want to make those tools yourslef
03:00 <Monkey_arma> which u dont trust me
03:00 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: C++ can't, no
03:00 <Ratchet--> monkey
03:00 <hoop> Ratchet--: learn making console apps first
03:00 <Ratchet--> can it make gui's with a tookit
03:00 <Monkey_arma> yes
03:00 <luke-jr> no
03:01 <Ratchet--> so for example
03:01 <luke-jr> the toolkit can make a GUI
03:01 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr ???
03:01 <luke-jr> but not C++
03:01 <Monkey_arma> yes it can
03:01 <luke-jr> C++ does non-GUI stuff
03:01 <Monkey_arma> wtf luke-jr ?
03:01 <Ratchet--> i could make a xchat if i knew how?
03:01 <Ratchet--> with toolkit
03:01 <Monkey_arma> i used c++ with motif to make gui apps
03:01 <Ratchet--> vectron
03:01 <Monkey_arma> dont listen to luke-jr he has lost the plot
03:01 <Ratchet--> what language is tht in
03:01 <hoop> c++
03:02 <Monkey_arma> nowadays Ratchet-- they use either gtk or QT toolkit for what you will care about
03:02 <Ratchet--> that's a program that runs on desktop
03:02 <Ratchet--> is it not
03:02 <Monkey_arma> but you wont be making those yet
03:02 <Monkey_arma> its too comples
03:02 <Monkey_arma> *x
03:02 <Monkey_arma> just make command line like hoop says
03:02 <Ratchet--> what good will that do me?
03:02 <Monkey_arma> teach you the basics
03:02 <Monkey_arma> a lot of c++ runs without guis
03:03 <hoop> Ratchet--: you get lost in gui programming without basics
03:03 <Monkey_arma> in the world
03:03 <Monkey_arma> look at arma itself
03:03 <Ratchet--> slow down and get what i'm saying
03:03 <Monkey_arma> we are
03:03 <Ratchet--> armabell
03:03 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: the point is C++ sucks, as does MFC and Forms
03:03 <Ratchet--> that was in c++ right?
03:03 <Monkey_arma> c++ sucks?????????????????????
03:03 <Monkey_arma> what is better  than c++ (other than c)
03:03 <Ratchet--> ARMABELL
03:03 <Ratchet--> WAS THAT IN C++?
03:03 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Qt
03:03 <Monkey_arma> i dont know what it is ratchet
03:03 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr ?
03:04 <Monkey_arma> isnt that a toolkit luke?
03:04 <Ratchet--> okay vectron then
03:04 <Ratchet--> hoop
03:04 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: it can be used as one, but it is also a language
03:04 <Monkey_arma> hrm
03:04 <Ratchet--> hoop, vectron will be a program that runs and you make maps in it am i right?
03:04 <Monkey_arma> isnt Qt made in c++?
03:04 <Ratchet--> hoop,  if so then i am happy
03:04 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: just like C++ is made in C
03:04 <hoop> yes Ratchet--
03:05 <Ratchet--> k
03:05 <Ratchet--> then it can indeed run on desktop
03:05 <Monkey_arma> but c++ adds to c in fundamental ways
03:05 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: vectron will be Qt, not C++, IIRC
03:05 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: as does Qt
03:05 <Monkey_arma> hrm i struggle with that luke
03:05 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: why do you think Qt requires a compiler beyond GCC?
03:06 <hoop> luke-jr: abndoned Qt
03:06 <luke-jr> hoop: -.-
03:06 <Monkey_arma> tbh luke, i dont know or care
03:06 <Monkey_arma> i hate kde
03:06 <Monkey_arma> i dont use QT and doubt i will
03:06 <Ratchet--> if it takes it, I'll get Microsoft Visual Studio to do what I want with c++
03:07 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- i have heard of what hoop mentioned, code::blocks
03:07 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: just go get Qt
03:07 <Monkey_arma> no point paying when you can get free
03:07 <Monkey_arma> ignore that maniac
03:07 <Ratchet--> Microsoft is free
03:07 <Monkey_arma> !
03:07 <hoop> lol
03:07 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/windows
03:07 <Monkey_arma> first, how is it free?
03:07 <Monkey_arma> second, microsoft is bad
03:07 <Monkey_arma> remember that
03:08 <hoop> does Bill Gates know that already?
03:08 <Ratchet--> www.microsoft.com/express/download
03:08 <luke-jr> http://www.trolltech.com/download?target=http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/X11/Qt/qt/source/qt-win-opensource-4.4.2-mingw.exe
03:08 <luke-jr> or skip that
03:08 <luke-jr> http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/X11/Qt/qt/source/qt-win-opensource-4.4.2-mingw.exe
03:08 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- i would keep away from MS
03:08 <hoop> Ratchet--: microsoft is a closed world
03:08 <Ratchet--> well you see
03:09 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- ask that question on forums
03:09 <Monkey_arma> or read forums for already answered
03:09 <Ratchet--> they allow to make a form with buttons and etc etc which is what I want to do
03:09 <hoop> microsoft makes things for lazy people
03:09 <Ratchet--> well if it's the last resort I'll just be lazy
03:09 <Ratchet--> if nothing else can give what i want i'll gladly take the lazy path
03:09 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- C is easier than C++
03:09 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-win-opensource-4.4.2-mingw.exe
03:09 <hoop> it's the last resort for lazy retard guys like you're now
03:09 <Ratchet--> idc
03:09 <Ratchet--> not learning c
03:09 <Monkey_arma> it might be good to learn that frist
03:10 <Monkey_arma> ??
03:10 <Monkey_arma> c++ is an extension to c
03:10 <Monkey_arma> if you learn c you can carry it over to c++
03:10 <Ratchet--> c will confuse the f out of me
03:10 <Monkey_arma> how?
03:10 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: not really, it's mostly just compatible with C
03:10 <Monkey_arma> its easier
03:10 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr you are not helping
03:10 <Ratchet--> i prefer just c++
03:10 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: yes I am
03:10 <luke-jr> ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-win-opensource-4.4.2-mingw.exe <-- solution to Ratchet--
03:10 <Monkey_arma> the syntax of c is like c++ only much simpler
03:10 <luke-jr> it does exactly what he needs
03:11 <Ratchet--> is qt a language or u use c++
03:11 <hoop> Ratchet--: you want to build a house when you're not even able to build a lego, you understand?
03:11 <Monkey_arma> rathet not many people use Qt
03:11 <Ratchet--> understand this guys
03:11 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: download it and try it
03:11 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: more than use GTK crud
03:11 <Ratchet--> I do not want to waste time learning a jillion things
03:11 <Ratchet--> i want to know what i NEED to learn
03:11 <luke-jr> ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-win-opensource-4.4.2-mingw.exe <-- solution to Ratchet--
03:11 <Monkey_arma> ratchet, c is really a part of c++
03:11 <Ratchet--> i aint going to learn c++ if i can't do what i want
03:11 <hoop> Ratchet--: wrong way
03:11 <Monkey_arma> if you learn c you waste nothing
03:12 <Monkey_arma> i wish i learnt c first
03:12 <Monkey_arma> but i went straight to c++
03:12 <hoop> anything you learn is not a waste of time
03:12 <hoop> never
03:12 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/ <-- documentation, tutorials, etc
03:12 <Monkey_arma> c is part of c++ in a way
03:12 <Monkey_arma> really i would consider it
03:12 <Ratchet--> just come to a complete answer to my simple question
03:12 <Monkey_arma> in fact, i may use c in the future as my number 1 language
03:12 <Ratchet--> with c++ can i make programs like windows calculator
03:12 <hoop> luke-jr: hard to understand Qt if you don't know c++
03:12 <Monkey_arma> many people do
03:12 <Monkey_arma> c++ is not necessarily better than cd
03:13 <Monkey_arma> *c
03:13 <Monkey_arma> i know a quite a few peole who prefer c to c++
03:13 <Ratchet--> monkey, hoop
03:13 <hoop> Ratchet--: try python for that
03:13 <luke-jr> hoop: perhaps, but he wants to write a GUI app… and neither C nor C++ provide GUI stuff
03:13 <Ratchet--> monkey. hoop.
03:13 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr ????
03:13 <Ratchet--> what msvc++ does
03:13 <hoop> Ratchet--: try python for that
03:13 <Ratchet--> is lets you make a form with buttons
03:13 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: Qt does everything MSVC++ does
03:13 <Ratchet--> is that the only program that allows?
03:14 <Ratchet--> ok luke
03:14 <Monkey_arma> dont listen to luke
03:14 <Monkey_arma> just pretend you ar
03:14 <Ratchet--> if i don't get the answer i want i'll just have to do that..
03:14 <Ratchet--> listen to me
03:14 <Ratchet--> Microsoft
03:14 <Ratchet--> windows form application
03:14 <Ratchet--> something like this very chatbox
03:14 <Ratchet--> runs on your screen
03:14 <luke-jr> http://trolltech.com/images/products/qt/qt_designer_linux <-- picture
03:14 <Ratchet--> buttons to click
03:15 <Ratchet--> can anything other than ms make that?
03:15 <Monkey_arma> in programming you will need one of: java/c++/c# and one of script languages: python/perl/ruby
03:15 <Monkey_arma> thats about it
03:15 <hoop> wtf RatchetPYTHON
03:15 <Monkey_arma> unless you want to do web stuff
03:15 <hoop> u blind?
03:15 <Monkey_arma> then html/xhtml, css, js, php
03:15 <Monkey_arma> python is the best scripting lang to learn on
03:16 <Monkey_arma> the langs all have similar syntax
03:16 <luke-jr> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/designer-getting-started.html#the-user-interface
03:16 <Monkey_arma> so c++, c, java, perl etc simolar
03:16 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr stfu already
03:16 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: I'm the only one giving him what he wants. You stfu
03:16 <hoop> also python is highly portable
03:16 <Monkey_arma> arma uses c++ and python
03:16 <luke-jr> hoop: not for anything GUI
03:16 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Arma doesn't use Python
03:16 <Monkey_arma> ah no its ruby
03:16 <Monkey_arma> im thinking of bzr
03:16 <luke-jr> Ruby support is unused too
03:17 <hoop> luke-jr: ACME?
03:17 <Ratchet--> i know alot of ruby
03:17 <Ratchet--> or did
03:17 <Monkey_arma> well thats good
03:17 <luke-jr> hoop: ACME isn't a real GUI app
03:17 <hoop> what is it?
03:17 <Monkey_arma> i dont even know python, perl or ruby yet
03:17 <luke-jr> hoop: a game, supposedly
03:17 <Monkey_arma> i just know bash
03:17 <hoop> Lucifer's ACME?
03:17 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: Python is painful for some reason
03:18 <luke-jr> Perl <3
03:18 <hoop> but it's easy
03:18 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- really serious now, learn c first, and do some simple stuff in it, then progress to c++. you will waste no time becuase c++ contains pretty much all of c
03:18 <Monkey_arma> perl is highly flexible so i hear but harder
03:18 <Monkey_arma> idk
03:18 <hoop> Monkey_arma: console apps are boring for young lazy guys
03:18 <Monkey_arma> hehe
03:19 <Monkey_arma> although if he is on windows console is waste of time
03:19 <Monkey_arma> dosbox is not much
03:19 <Monkey_arma> so i understand that
03:19 <Ratchet--> my point exactly
03:19 <Ratchet--> i am not going to learn c+++ if all i can do is sit in a console
03:19 <Monkey_arma> but you really need to learn linux or get a mac
03:19 <Ratchet--> that's gay
03:19 <Monkey_arma> console is great
03:19 <Monkey_arma> but not in windows so much
03:19 <Monkey_arma> although they have improved it
03:20 <Monkey_arma> there is powershell or somti
03:20 <hoop> Ratchet--: c++ lets you make gui apps
03:20 <hoop> c++ libraries to be exact ><
03:20 <Monkey_arma> if you learn c and then c++ you will have all knowledge to go to any other language in a matter of minutes or hours at the mose
03:20 <Ratchet--> mk
03:20 <hoop> there are better ways than c++ to make gui apps
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i will be relearning c and c++ myself
03:21 <hoop> Ratchet--: Qbasic
03:21 <Monkey_arma> :0
03:21 <Monkey_arma> hoop bad
03:22 <hoop> totally useless but the most fun thing to learn programming
03:22 <Ratchet--> i think i'lll go ahead and use microsoft til i know 50%+ of c++
03:22 <Ratchet--> then possibly switch
03:22 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: btw, you know C types are abstraction?
03:22 <hoop> 50% ?
03:22 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr ?
03:22 <Ratchet--> basics
03:22 <Ratchet--> ..
03:22 <Ratchet--> 50% is basics
03:22 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: char, int, short, long, etc
03:22 <Ratchet--> 50% is expert
03:22 <Monkey_arma> ok and?
03:22 <Ratchet--> 100%
03:22 <Ratchet--> !
03:22 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: those are abstractions
03:22 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: the CPU only works in 32-bit integers
03:22 <Monkey_arma> yes of architecthure
03:22 <Monkey_arma> so what?
03:22 <Monkey_arma> do you have a point?
03:22 <luke-jr> :þ
03:22 <luke-jr> no
03:23 <hoop> lol
03:23 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: just get Qt and be happy
03:23 <Monkey_arma> nutcase lol
03:23 <hoop> luke-jr: isn't Lucifer's ACME a gui app?
03:23 <luke-jr> hoop: it's a SDL "game"
03:24 <hoop> luke-jr: it uses python + Qt afaik
03:24 <luke-jr> not unless he's made some major changes recently
03:24 <Monkey_arma> Ratchet-- in fact, if you learn c++ the basics are similar to c so fine if you must , go and learn c++ first, but learn how to do it well. Object oriented programming requires very careful designn
03:24 <luke-jr> hoop: last I checked it was PyGame
03:24 <Monkey_arma> Make sure you study how to choose good objects
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03:24 <hoop> luke-jr: last I checked it was an aamap editor :S
03:24 <luke-jr> …
03:24 <Monkey_arma> hi babybug
03:24 <luke-jr> hoop: PyGame for the interface I mean
03:24 <Ratchet--> mk
03:25 <BabyBug> Hi hun
03:25  * BabyBug cuddles Flex, Better now darling? =P
03:25 <hoop> luke-jr: what you mean
03:25 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: put it this way:
03:25 <Flex> lol
03:25 <luke-jr> if you want a GUI app, you need to either use Microsoft C++-and-more, or TrollTech C++-and-Qt
03:26 <luke-jr> Ratchet--: the latter of which will be nicer and work on Mac, Windows, and Linux
03:26 <luke-jr> (of course, you could use just Qt instead of C++-and-Qt if you want to…)
03:26 <Monkey_arma> back in bit...things to do
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03:31 <Flex> who was that
03:32 <ct|kyle> Flex: BabyBug
03:32 <hoop> Ratchet--: can you catch app's stdout on windows?
03:32 <Ratchet--> yes
03:32 <hoop> how?
03:32 <Ratchet--> that's standard output lib
03:32 <Ratchet--> std::cout i believe
03:32 <Flex> ct|kyle, that's weird
03:32 <hoop> forget c++
03:33 <Ratchet--> ..
03:33 <hoop> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18715&highlight=
03:33 <hoop> I'm asking something else
03:33 <Ratchet--> ohhhh
03:33 <Ratchet--> hm
03:33 <Ratchet--> no you cannot to my knowledge
03:33 <Ratchet--> unless application data folder does it
03:34 <hoop> meh, one reason more to forget windows
03:34 <Flex> ct|kyle hi
03:34 <ct|kyle> Flex: oi
03:34 <Flex> what are you up to?
03:36 <ct|kyle> trying not to ask hoop a question
03:36 <hoop> trying not to ask ct|kyle what question
03:38 <hoop> ct|kyle: damn u shoot it :P
03:38 <ct|kyle> hoop: no question needed (i should have read the readme and id did so it fixed it
03:38 <hoop> oh
03:38 <hoop> holy README
03:38 <hoop> --datadir ?
03:38 <ct|kyle> hoop: yup
03:39 <ct|kyle> Failed to load glade file `/usr/local/share/vectron/glade/vectron.glade'   before i found it :)
03:39 <hoop> yep, you'll need that until we set the install thingy
03:40 <ct|kyle> ya
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04:39 <hoop> Flex: any idea of what time we may play?
04:39 <hoop> oh, and where?
04:41 <Flex> not exactly sure hoop, if TR is playing us, then i guess next sunday is a good time for another practice, interested? rather than today
04:41 <Flex> if tr is not, then i guess you can call your team members for today
04:41 <ct|kyle> do you want to practice?
04:41 <hoop> Flex: better, it would've been hard to catch all tomorrow
04:41 <ct|kyle> for ladle?
04:42 <hoop> ct|kyle: is ct free tomorrow?
04:42 <Flex> ok, next sunday then hoop? you need to speak to lack about it and confirm it with him
04:42 <hoop> if tr won't tomorrow we may try too
04:42 <Monkey_arma> flex you do know we are playing wild west next sunday yes?
04:42 <Flex> i'm unsure what's happening today, and next sunday.. so none of this is final
04:42 <Monkey_arma> make sure you speak to lack before finalising anything
04:42 <Flex> fuck them.. i want real practice :D
04:43 <Monkey_arma> well its already arranged
04:43 <ct|kyle> hoop: next sunday we want to have a practice war
04:43  * hoop agrees
04:43 <Monkey_arma> and dont underestimate them
04:43 <Flex> why not?
04:43 <hoop> ct|kyle: ok I'll keep in mind
04:43 <Monkey_arma> quite a few of them come from sumo
04:43 <hoop> Flex: cuz u noob
04:43 <Monkey_arma> they arent complete noobs at fort physics
04:44 <hoop> but they're noob at strategy
04:44 <Monkey_arma> :0
04:44 <ct|kyle> we probably would not mind it tomorrow at 20 GMT depending on who shows up for CT
04:44 <hoop> perhaps
04:44 <hoop> ct|kyle: cool, we have irc anyway ;)
04:45 <ct|kyle> i'll be gone
04:46 <hoop> Monkey_arma: you have a server for practice?
04:46 <Monkey_arma> well lol no
04:46 <Monkey_arma> not for tomorrow
04:46 <hoop> don't mean 'you'
04:46 <Monkey_arma> you mean?
04:46 <hoop> neither vip's ?
04:47 <Monkey_arma> do you want a server or?
04:47 <hoop> no
04:47 <Monkey_arma> eddie has a server maybe that people can use
04:47 <Monkey_arma> ojh
04:47 <hoop> just asking: if we want a practice war, we'll need a server, don't we?
04:48 <Monkey_arma> ask flex
04:48 <Monkey_arma> ye we do
04:48 <Monkey_arma> are we playing ?
04:48 <hoop> Flex ^^
04:48 <Monkey_arma> lack is in charege
04:48 <Flex> yeah, let me bring out one of my servers from my pocket
04:48 <hoop> quick!
04:48 <Monkey_arma> flex dont fuck up lacks plans
04:48 <Flex> i'm not, "i'm unsure what's happening today, and next sunday.. so none of this is final"
04:49 <Monkey_arma> lack sent us emails telling us
04:49 <Monkey_arma> we play tr tomorrow
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04:49 <Monkey_arma> then ww next sunday
04:49 <hoop> I may get a usa server easily XD
04:49 <Monkey_arma> although i dont really want to play tr
04:49 <Monkey_arma> fuck them
04:49 <Monkey_arma> after durkas post man
04:49 <Flex> tomorrow we'll clear everything up, i'd rather play hoops team next sunday so if nothing is planned then why plan something Monkey_arma?
04:49 <Monkey_arma> lets play hoop tomorrow
04:49 <Flex> no hoop, europe only please. :)
04:49 <Monkey_arma> fuck tr
04:50 <ct|kyle> i asked for a 3rd CT server for ladle (but we decided 2 were enough)
04:50 <Monkey_arma> better talk to lack before you do annything flex
04:50 <Flex> hoop can't get a team by tomorrow
04:50 <hoop> *not sure*
04:50 <Monkey_arma> wild west is organised now
04:50 <Flex> ct|kyle can we borrow a server for today (sunday 28th) please
04:50 <Monkey_arma> we can play both
04:50 <Monkey_arma> first hoop then ww
04:50 <Monkey_arma> or other way round
04:50 <hoop> or together?
04:50 <hoop> XP
04:50 <ct|kyle> Flex: what time?
04:51 <hoop> Monkey_arma: you remember 'half team practice' last afl?
04:51 <hoop> that was cool
04:51 <hoop> if we can't bring the whole team
04:51 <Flex> not sure, 730 gmt
04:51 <Flex> utc
04:51 <hoop> each match one team only attacks and the other defences
04:52 <ct|kyle> for a half hour (then it is CT time
04:52 <hoop> oh wait, it was with TD
04:52 <hoop> Flex: you remember that?
04:52 <hoop> we played some TD vs X like that
04:53 <Flex> yeah, that was nice :)
04:53 <ct|kyle> at 8PM GMT CT is in charge of ladle fort but before that you can barrow it if you want, that will be CT ladle fort 1 in AFL
04:53 <Monkey_arma> hoop im sure if we can get a server we can play next sunday after or before we play ww
04:53 <Flex> ct|kyle, urm today?
04:53 <Monkey_arma> we just need to leave a decennt gap
04:53 <hoop> ok
04:54 <ct|kyle> if today is the 28th :)
04:54 <hoop> I'm asking my mates to be in irc as more as possible
04:54 <Flex> yes, what are they doing on 8pm gmt?
04:54 <Flex> the game wont finish till probably 9gmt if it starts at 730gmt
04:54 <Flex> at^
04:55 <ct|kyle> we are having our practice
04:56 <Concord> I'm around for whatever
04:56 <hoop> looking back at ww formation they're not noobs indeed
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06:54 <Ratchet--> cyberbuddeez
06:54 <Ratchet--> !1
07:18 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
07:18 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
07:18 <Ratchet--> ping ratchet--
07:19 <Ratchet--> ping Ratchet--
07:19 <Ratchet--> ping hoop
07:19 <Ratchet--> =-o
07:19 <Ratchet--> ping luke-jr
07:19 <Ratchet--> ping ivantis
07:27 <hoop> whatsup Ratchet--
07:28 <Ratchet--> YESS!
07:29 <Ratchet--> can we (attempt) to build tron on linux
07:29 <hoop> you can
07:29 <Ratchet--> i need halp
07:29 <Ratchet--> =-x
07:29 <hoop> try to
07:29 <Ratchet--> ..
07:29 <hoop> ask help when you really need
07:30 <Ratchet--> well i dont know any linux code
07:30 <Ratchet--> so i really need
07:30 <Ratchet--> =-\
07:30 <hoop> there are INSTALL adn README everywhere
07:30 <hoop> and google
07:30 <Ratchet--> -.--
07:30 <Ratchet--> what about the missing file
07:30 <hoop> install them
07:31 <Ratchet--> sigh
07:31 <hoop> it''s an easy process
07:31 <hoop> launch ./configure
07:31 <hoop> if something is missing install it
07:31 <hoop> back 1 step
07:32 <hoop> until configure reaches the end
07:33 <hoop> and please stop calling hoop hoop hoop hoop...
07:33 <hoop> that's just annoying
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07:41 <Ratchet--> =-o
07:44 <Lucifer> hoop: hoop (hi there!) hoop (hi there!)
07:44 <Lucifer> [00:33] <hoop> and please stop calling hoop hoop hoop hoop...
07:53 <hoop> :P
07:54 <Ratchet--> hoop
07:54 <Ratchet--> =-x
07:54 <Ratchet--> are you here
07:54 <hoop> not there, I'm here
07:54 <Ratchet--> =-o
07:55 <Ratchet--> i like totally just found install wireltem --> adminess driver in sys
07:55 <Ratchet--> system -- admin
07:55 <Ratchet--> *
07:55 <Ratchet--> let me retype that
07:55 <Ratchet--> i like totally just found install wireless driver in system --> administration
07:55 <Ratchet--> where might i find the driver in all these folders to install
07:57 <hoop> idk what you're talkin about
07:57 <Ratchet--> wireless internet
07:57 <hoop> btw I have no clue about wireless drivers
07:57 <Ratchet--> i have to install my driver
07:57 <Ratchet--> -.-
07:57 <hoop> ask Lucifer
07:58 <Lucifer> ask hoop, he knows all about how to do it without wires
07:59 <Ratchet--> lol
08:02 <hoop> Ratchet--: /join #ubuntu
08:02 <hoop> possibly be nice and patient
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09:03 <Ratchet--> er what's the point of bluetooth on here
09:03 <Ratchet--> it don't work
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10:34 <Durka> eddiefantastic: hola
10:36 <epsy> Durka, this would be rather an ordened list
10:36 <epsy> :D
10:36 <epsy> rather be*, whups
10:36 <Durka> ?
10:36 <epsy> nvm
10:39 <Durka> hrhr
10:43 <Durka> Lackadaisical: ping
10:43 <Lackadaisical> pong
10:44 <Durka> I'm going to make a file for the exact ladle settings
10:44 <Durka> since theres like 6 different fort servers
10:44 <Durka> all have different settings
10:45 <Lackadaisical> yeah.. any idea what server to use?
10:46 <Durka> haha well i was thinking about Fort Auth
10:46 <Lackadaisical> maybe we can borrow one from eddie?
10:46 <Durka> then i realized
10:46 <Durka> it has auto-team switchup after each match
10:46 <Durka> thats no good
10:46 <epsy> haha
10:46 <Lackadaisical> that'd be pretty terrible
10:47 <Durka> :P
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10:48 <Durka> hi Goodygumdrops
10:48 <Goodygumdrops> hello Durka
10:48 <Durka> ok so, epsy Goodygumdrops Lackadaisical
10:48 <Durka> score_hole 0?
10:48 <Goodygumdrops> yeahhh
10:48 <epsy> no!
10:49 <Lackadaisical> undecided
10:49 <Durka> i say 0
10:49 <Goodygumdrops> I think that giving points every time someone goes through a hole is kind of silly...and abusable
10:49 <epsy> i say 1e10
10:49 <Durka> yes
10:49 <Goodygumdrops> and also using holes strategically is its own reward
10:49 <Durka> forexample
10:49 <Lackadaisical> yeah im with goody
10:49 <Durka> if the score is 99-97
10:49 <epsy> that would be an epic end
10:49 <Durka> and goody suicides into lacks wall
10:49 <Durka> to make it 99-99
10:49 <epsy> erm
10:49 <Goodygumdrops> lol
10:49 <Durka> and i go thru the wall
10:49 <Durka> cuz goody meant to do that
10:50 <Durka> +1
10:50 <Durka> 100-99 ftw
10:50 <epsy> you know, if you blow a hole in a teammate's wall
10:50 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, that's undesirable
10:50 <Durka> thats just stupid
10:50 <epsy> there is no hole point in this case
10:50 <pavelo> and is that such a bad thing ?
10:50 <Durka> lack is the oponent in my stupid exmple
10:50 <epsy> it's: ennemy wall + teammate hole from the view of the holer
10:50 <Durka> hoop: what do u think?
10:50 <hoop> this topic should be globally polled IMO
10:50 <Durka> hmm
10:51 <Durka> k
10:51 <Durka> well moving on
10:51 <hoop> how a bout a forums poll?
10:51 <Durka> fortress conquering?
10:51 <epsy> forum polls suck :x
10:51 <Durka> 10 points?
10:51 <Durka> or 6/4
10:51 <epsy> Durka, 2v2 conquerable
10:51 <Goodygumdrops> 10
10:51 <Lackadaisical> yeah someone should just talk about it on the forums at least
10:51 <Goodygumdrops> 2 v 2 unconquerable
10:51 <Durka> i think whoever thought of 6/4 is retarded tbh
10:51 <Lackadaisical> 2v2 unconq
10:51 <epsy> eddiefantastic:
10:51 <hoop> I dont like 2v2 conq
10:51 <Goodygumdrops> it's unintuitive, which bothers me
10:51 <epsy> 2v2 conquerable is way more challenging >.>
10:52 <hoop> ^^no :P
10:52 <Lackadaisical> no its not :S
10:52 <hoop> just unfair
10:52 <Goodygumdrops> well
10:52 <Goodygumdrops> if 2 v 2 is conquerable
10:52 <Goodygumdrops> why isn't 1 v 1?
10:52 <epsy> for the defenders it is
10:52 <hoop> good point Goodygumdrops
10:52 <Goodygumdrops> that is why I think it is unintuitive
10:52 <epsy> defenders have much advantage trough the whole rounds already
10:52 <Durka> yea
10:52 <hoop> not really
10:52 <Durka> im sadly agreeing with epsy
10:52 <Durka> heres why
10:52 <epsy> giving 2v2 unconquerable is giving them even more advantage
10:52 <Durka> in 2 v 2 conquerable
10:53 <Lackadaisical> but as soon as the defender is cut it's a loss
10:53 <hoop> defenders are constantly pressed
10:53 <Durka> say its 2 defenders 1 attacker
10:53 <Durka> and the 4th player is chillin in defense
10:53 <Lackadaisical> which just empahsizes the single defenders responsibility
10:53 <epsy> yes but they still have the advantage over the attackers
10:53 <Durka> if he atcks the, 2nd defender could sneak back and get the zone
10:53 <Lackadaisical> only when they play as a team and have another person there
10:53 <Durka> its a game of cat n mouse
10:54 <hoop> in 2v2 attackers are advantaged already cus they can leave the zone
10:54 <Goodygumdrops> I feel like making 2 v 2 conquerable means breaking def nearly always ends the round
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10:54 <Lackadaisical> i guess this should be discussed on theforums as well..
10:54 <Goodygumdrops> which means the defender becomes way too important
10:54 <Goodygumdrops> and takes focus off the team
10:54 <hoop> we need a dictator deciding that maybe
10:55 <Durka> i vote not monkey
10:55 <epsy> or we need to not decide that
10:55 <Lackadaisical> so what do you think hoop?
10:55 <Durka> btw epsy
10:55 <hoop> in 2v2 attackers are advantaged already cus they can leave the zone
10:55 <Durka> im looking thru fort settings
10:55 <Goodygumdrops> that's a good point, hoop
10:55 <Durka> whats ENEMY_TEAMMATE_PENALTY 9.5       # Penalty on the effective time in seconds if the influence is from a teammate
10:55 <epsy> it's about telling who's the guy who gets the point(or not)
10:56 <Durka> o ok
10:57 <pavelo> what about cycle width... i kinda miss that :)
10:58 <Goodygumdrops> booooo!
10:58 <Goodygumdrops> :-\
10:58 <Durka> haha
10:58 <Durka> ok
10:58 <Durka> winzone?
10:58 <Durka> i vote no completely
10:58 <pavelo> deathzone
10:58 <pavelo> a relatively quick one
10:58 <epsy> winzone, but only after 3 years
10:58 <Goodygumdrops> I don't think we need more than 2 zones on a fortress map
10:59 <Durka> haha good qoute
10:59 <K-Yo> yo
10:59 <hoop> yo
10:59 <Goodygumdrops> hi kyo
11:00 <hoop> i  vote for no additional zones
11:00 <Durka> Lackadaisical, epsy ?
11:01 <Lackadaisical> instant deathzone!
11:01 <Lackadaisical> or maybe no zone
11:01 <epsy> winzone, but only after 3 years
11:01 <epsy> (=disable)
11:02 <Goodygumdrops> I think freako is on sumo right now, should we get him in here?
11:02 <Lackadaisical> yeah
11:02 <Goodygumdrops> one sec
11:02 <Goodygumdrops> lemme see if he's still there
11:02 <Lackadaisical> he initiated this right?
11:02 <Durka> yep
11:02 <Durka> epsy
11:02 <Goodygumdrops> gone
11:03 <Durka> i have winzone set to 10 min
11:03 <Durka> its 0 size
11:03 <Durka> 0 expansion
11:03 <hoop> is the teammembers signing gonna be locked?
11:03 <epsy> nah
11:03 <epsy> that sucks
11:03 <Durka> it will say winzone activated
11:03 <Durka> everyone will be like wtf?
11:03 <Durka> where?!
11:03 <epsy> there will be "winzone popped up" messagess trough it's invisible for most ppl
11:03 <Durka> fine ill make it one hour
11:03 <epsy> yup
11:03 <Durka> if the round takes 1 hr
11:03 <epsy> make it 1234567
11:03 <Durka> we deserve to see that msg
11:03 <epsy> true
11:04 <hoop> is the teammembers signing gonna be locked????
11:04 <epsy> ?
11:04 <Goodygumdrops> the challenge board
11:04 <hoop> the wiki ladle page
11:04 <Goodygumdrops> I think he means
11:04 <hoop> that^^
11:04 <epsy> ah
11:04 <epsy> ask a wiki admin to do it
11:05 <epsy> guru3: ping
11:05 <hoop> I asking if that's planned
11:05 <K-Yo> are we deciding the config for ladle here?
11:05 <hoop> kinda
11:05 <Durka> kinda
11:05 <Lackadaisical> sort of..
11:05 <epsy> kinda
11:05 <Goodygumdrops> someone is deciding
11:05 <hoop> :P
11:05 <epsy> lol
11:05 <K-Yo> xD
11:05 <hoop> actually: YES
11:05 <epsy> nah..
11:05 <Durka> well i wanna play against lax team 2maro with the same cfg as ladle
11:05 <Durka> no shananigans
11:05 <Lackadaisical> today!
11:05 <Goodygumdrops> everything durka does qualifies as shenanigans
11:06 <Durka> LOL
11:06 <K-Yo> we have a training tonight, and I hear flex (has he a team?) has one too, we'll prob like to train with the right settings too
11:06 <Durka> ok i have all the settings in alphabetical order
11:06 <Lackadaisical> so what did you decide for 2v2, holepoints and win/deathzones durka?
11:06 <Durka> im gonna post them in a sec
11:06 <Durka> minus the good stuff
11:06 <Durka> after we decide
11:06 <Durka> 1) score_hole
11:06 <Durka> 2) conquering
11:06 <Durka> 3) dz
11:07 <Durka> 4) fortress scoring
11:07 <Durka> first, hole score
11:07 <Durka> i say 0
11:07 <hoop> post on forums?
11:07 <Durka> the problem is
11:07 <epsy> i say 1
11:07 <Durka> if it's 1
11:07 <Durka> it promotes dying
11:07 <Lackadaisical> i think we need more people able to vote though
11:07 <epsy> ;)
11:07 <K-Yo> holing makes the game less hard
11:07 <hoop>  /me too Lackadaisical
11:07 <Durka> like "oh zomg i can pwnz0r u llolol, o sh1t u killed me lolol, wait n0 mai teammate got me a po1nt baK 101"
11:07 <K-Yo> post on forums?
11:07 <hoop> ^^
11:08 <epsy> K-Yo, well, we're going to have holes anyway
11:08 <K-Yo> yeah
11:08 <Durka> MaZuffeR: ?
11:08 <hoop> explosion size 0!!!
11:08 <K-Yo> but without points, it will be less interesting (a bit)
11:08 <Durka> and
11:08 <K-Yo> nah, with holes, else we'll all get lost!
11:08 <Lackadaisical> negative points!
11:08 <Durka> Durka only operates in evens
11:08 <Durka> i like the negative idea
11:08 <Durka> if ur gonna blow a hole in the def
11:08 <Goodygumdrops> hmm
11:08 <Durka> and go thru it
11:08 <Goodygumdrops> I like 0
11:08 <epsy> Durka, divide everything by two then :D
11:08 <Durka> there should be a sacrifice
11:08 <Durka> 9/2 ?
11:09 <Goodygumdrops> the sacrifice is you died
11:09 <epsy> 9?
11:09 <Goodygumdrops> and your opponent got 2 points
11:09 <Durka> thats an odd number
11:09 <Durka> no
11:09 <epsy> that's not in fortress scoring
11:09 <Durka> and ur team gets into the zone
11:09 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, that's the reward
11:09 <Durka> thats what in saying ep ^
11:09 <Goodygumdrops> which is why points are silly
11:09 <epsy> and maybe just dies
11:09 <Durka> exactly
11:09 <Lackadaisical> usually the hole is an extra, because your teammate tried to attack and failed
11:09 <Durka> great point goody
11:09 <Goodygumdrops> yes, that's true lacka
11:09 <K-Yo> so, no points for hole?
11:09 <Durka> goody's right
11:09 <Durka> the reward isnt the +1
11:09 <Durka> its the zone
11:10 <Durka> that u've graciously entered into
11:10  * hoop agrees
11:10  * K-Yo agrees
11:10 <Lackadaisical> agrees
11:10  * Durka agrees
11:10  * Lackadaisical agrees
11:10 <Durka> ok
11:10 <Durka> settled
11:10 <epsy> what if you're not going in the enemis zone
11:10 <epsy> no i dun not agree
11:10 <Durka> then why get a point thats just stupid
11:10 <K-Yo> you shouldn't have holed then?
11:10 <Durka> if ur in the middle of the map
11:10 <Durka> whats the point
11:10 <epsy> K-Yo, for the point?
11:10 <Durka> yea
11:10 <hoop> epsy: who implemented score_hole?
11:10 <Goodygumdrops> it's like...you die on your opponents wall...they get two points
11:10 <K-Yo> you died because you got pwnt, no reason to get a point
11:11 <epsy> hoop, z-man most probably
11:11 <Goodygumdrops> then "so-and-so gets 1 point for a sacrfice for the good of the team"
11:11 <K-Yo> a suicide for one point? strange
11:11 <Goodygumdrops> if two people go through you r hole...all of a sudden it wasn't a sacrifice
11:11 <Goodygumdrops> you are back to even
11:11 <Durka> ok next
11:11 <epsy> i like hunting teammate holes :P
11:11 <Durka> 10 points
11:11 <Lackadaisical> i think you should post these setting which we settle on on the forums with how many people voted for/against and then keep the discussion open
11:11 <Durka> 6/4
11:11 <epsy> 5/5
11:11 <Goodygumdrops> 10
11:11  * K-Yo agrees with lack
11:11 <K-Yo> 6/4
11:11 <Lackadaisical> i think 10 has always been the ladle way
11:11 <hoop> we should at least be 1 member per team talking about this :P
11:12 <Goodygumdrops> I think it's dumb to win the round and get less than 10 points
11:12 <Durka> i say 10 because I don't see why the losing team should get the chance to grab 4 points from the other team at the last second
11:12 <Lackadaisical> we got ct, x, mc, ot, tr
11:12 <hoop> missing ww and kot
11:12 <K-Yo> we need a DSer, a Ww and a KO ?
11:12 <hoop> and ds
11:12 <epsy> :|
11:12 <Durka> does anyone agree with me ^
11:12 <Durka> its like
11:12 <K-Yo> lack: what's ur team name?
11:12 <hoop> DEMOCRACY
11:12 <Goodygumdrops> yes, I agree durka, 10
11:12 <Durka> u win the round and get 10 points (6+4)
11:13 <Lackadaisical> erm.. open team untill something better comes along
11:13 <K-Yo> Durka: reward for managing entering the zone
11:13 <Durka> but then the other team gets an extra 4 cuz they were 2nd?
11:13 <epsy> Durka, you can win by defending
11:13 <epsy> and get less points
11:13 <Durka> and it promotes attacking
11:13 <Durka> yea
11:13 <epsy> yes
11:13 <Durka> if anything 5/5
11:13 <hoop> The Lackamagical pffft
11:13 <K-Yo> 6/4 propotes attack yeah
11:13 <Durka> but thats stupid
11:13 <epsy> propotation!
11:13 <Durka> i say 10
11:13 <K-Yo> hoop: lool
11:13 <Durka> why give the other team points?
11:14 <Durka> of course ur not giving them to them
11:14 <epsy> why dieing?
11:14 <Durka> but they can get them
11:14 <hoop> wtf u talkin about :S
11:14 <Durka> ok listen
11:14 <Durka> end of the round
11:14 <Durka> heated battle in both zones
11:14 <Durka> 1 v 1 in both zones
11:14 <Durka> i kill epsy
11:14 <K-Yo> why not start a thread on forums, and each of us post a reply with the settings we want, we'll get them by democracy (one vote per team)
11:14 <Lackadaisical> 6-4 is a better representation of how the round went..
11:14 <Durka> i conquer zone
11:14 <epsy> Onoz! Onoz! Onozen!
11:14 <Durka> lack immediately dies and they get zone
11:14 <Durka> so i get 10 (6+4) and they get 4
11:14 <Durka> why?
11:14 <K-Yo> and here, we just need to make the list of the settings to vote for
11:14 <Durka> they lost
11:15 <Lackadaisical> the almost won
11:15 <Durka> yea
11:15 <Durka> but THEY LOST
11:15 <hoop> I agree: one vote per team
11:15 <Durka> the french almost beat michael phelps
11:15 <Durka> BUT THEY LOST
11:15 <Lackadaisical> and they got a silver medal
11:15 <epsy> that's gonna be a big mess hoop
11:15 <Durka> yes
11:15 <Durka> and the team that almost conquers the zone
11:15 <hoop> epsy: reason
11:15 <Durka> gets 2nd
11:15 <K-Yo> epsy: not if we ask one vote per team kindly
11:15 <hoop> ^^
11:16 <K-Yo> not that much spammerzs on aa forums
11:16 <epsy> hoop, half the teams wont even reply
11:16 -!- Lacrymosa [n=Lacrymos@p5484E29A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
11:16 <Durka> true
11:16 <Durka> ^
11:16 <Lackadaisical> ah luzi
11:16 <Goodygumdrops> no reply: no vote
11:16 <Durka> \o Luzi
11:16 <hoop> epsy: their problem
11:16 <Lacrymosa> morning
11:16 <Lackadaisical> koz in the building
11:16 <K-Yo> we're all here, only Ww, DS and KOz lacking
11:16 <K-Yo> we can tell them
11:16 <epsy> the other ones will have healthy battles to decide what settings they want
11:16 <K-Yo> hi Lacrymosa
11:16 <epsy> so we'll end up with no votes
11:16 <K-Yo> now we only need Ww and DS
11:16 <Durka> ok
11:16 <epsy> no
11:16 <Durka> lets put that asie
11:16 <hoop> hi
11:16 <Durka> next one
11:16 <Durka> WINZONE
11:16 <epsy> half of the players from ct aren't here
11:16 <Lackadaisical> maybe we should compile a list with all pros and cons and leave the voting on the forums
11:16 <Durka> i say no winzone
11:17 <epsy> half the players from x aren't here
11:17 <epsy> etc
11:17 <Goodygumdrops> good idea, lacka
11:17 <K-Yo> epsy: I can contact them and get an answer in the day
11:17 <Durka> hey, i just wanna get a tenative list out there
11:17 <epsy> haha
11:17 <hoop> I don't agree with deciding things here STOP
11:17 <epsy> me neither
11:17 <K-Yo> same
11:17 <Durka> meh
11:17 <Durka> at least i started the discussion
11:17 <K-Yo> :P
11:17 <epsy> now we end it :D
11:17 <hoop> lol durk
11:17 <hoop> wd
11:17 <Lackadaisical> wd
11:18 <hoop> gj
11:18 <Lackadaisical> nt
11:18 <hoop> (nt)
11:18 <K-Yo> we can still post on forums, and if we don't get a representative part of the players, we will decide in another way?
11:18 <Durka> cycle_rubber
11:18 <epsy> Good game!
11:18 <Durka> i say 10
11:18 <Goodygumdrops> too low
11:18 <epsy> yes good idea
11:18 <Durka> 25?
11:18 <epsy> even better
11:18 <Goodygumdrops> yeah, that's better
11:18 <Durka> k good
11:18 <hoop> please listen my proposition
11:18 <K-Yo> hoop: ?
11:18 <hoop> each team will be asked to present
11:18 <epsy> i can't hear you!
11:18 <hoop> a list of votes
11:18 <Durka> o
11:19 <hoop> one vote per point
11:19 <Durka> and i think spam_protection should be 1
11:19 <epsy> :D
11:19 <epsy> why not -1 ?
11:19 <Lacrymosa> spectators should be silenced
11:19 <K-Yo> nah, cycle_rubber 0
11:19 <hoop> like HOLE 0, WINZONE no, etc
11:19 <K-Yo> score_hole, winzone, points, ... what else is to be decided?
11:20 <epsy> and spectator join messages should be shut off as well :x
11:20 <Durka> there are 4 things
11:20 <Lackadaisical> 2v2
11:20  * K-Yo agrees with epsy
11:20 <Durka> 1) score_hole
11:20 <Durka> 2) fortress conquering (2v2 issue)
11:20 <Durka> 3) scoring (10, 5/5, 6/4)
11:20 <Durka> 4) winzone
11:20 <K-Yo> yeah 2v2 conquerable too
11:20 <K-Yo> let's post and see how it goes
11:21 <Durka> keep in mind
11:21 <Durka> when u edit the setting to make 2 v 2 UNconquerable
11:21 <Durka> that changes most other scenarios
11:21 <Durka> and i beleve it makes conquering 2 v 1 take a lil longer, same as 1 v 0
11:21 <hoop> 1 vote per team, if one team misses that until a fixed date, its vote won't be counted
11:21 <Durka> not sure tho
11:21 <epsy> this wont work hoop
11:21 <K-Yo> hoop: they all have to be informed in time then
11:22 <Lackadaisical> i dont think a whole team can come to the same conclusions on all those points
11:22 <hoop> we have 2 weeks...
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> the only ones who aren't here have forums
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> ww and ds
11:22 <epsy> that's not much
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> we can tell them on their forums that they need to vote
11:22 <epsy> Goodygumdrops, no
11:22 <hoop> the team leader may decide
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> why not?
11:22 <epsy> ds refused to register on forums just to play on ed's
11:22 <Lacrymosa> why not leave the settings as they are
11:22 <epsy> so i doubt they have forum accounts
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> so they can register
11:22 <hoop> they won't voet than
11:22 <Goodygumdrops> it takes 2 seconds
11:22 <hoop> vote*
11:23 <K-Yo> or they can tell s1 that has an account
11:23 <hoop> we may fix the date to next sunday
11:23 <K-Yo> or they can tell it thru the wiki
11:23 <K-Yo> next sunday?
11:23 <Lackadaisical> oh i just heard from ds and ww that they all want to have 2v2 unconq
11:23 <epsy> hoop, that's WAY too short
11:23 <Goodygumdrops> lol
11:23 <Goodygumdrops> nice lacka
11:24 <Lacrymosa> I heard that as well ;)
11:24 <epsy> and it's exactly what Lackadaisical is saying that will happen
11:24 <hoop> epsy: scepticism ftw?
11:24 <Goodygumdrops> realism
11:25 <epsy> let's start nitpicking on realism vs scepticism
11:25 <Goodygumdrops> first
11:25 <hoop> do you mean that nobody in ds or ww will know there's a pending thread in forums?
11:25 <Goodygumdrops> I would like to nitpick on your spelling of skepticism
11:25 <epsy> balme it on hoop :d
11:25 <epsy> blame*
11:25 <Goodygumdrops> no, I think we will tell them, hoop
11:26 <hoop> so? what's the matter
11:26 <Goodygumdrops> I'm not sure, it is fine with me
11:26 <Lacrymosa> and if they dont vote, it's their fault
11:26 <Durka> http://durkas.info/ladle16.cfg
11:26 <hoop> ^^exactly
11:26 <Durka> thats what I have so far
11:26 <K-Yo> so, next sunday, or the sunday after?
11:26 <epsy> you will have internal clan/team conflicts appearing in the thread
11:26 <hoop> the sunday after we play
11:26 <Lacrymosa> once again, why dont we use the old settings
11:26 <K-Yo> ><
11:26 <K-Yo> true
11:26 <hoop> epsy: their problem
11:26 <Goodygumdrops> tell the clans to decide amongst themselves before they vote on the forums
11:26 <epsy> hoop, IN THE THREAD
11:26 <K-Yo> Lacrymose: we will I guess if there are not enough votes
11:27 <epsy> that's not only their problem if the thread gets fucked up
11:27 <Goodygumdrops> what are the old settings, lacrymosa?
11:27 <hoop> we don't really need a thread for that
11:27 <K-Yo> hoop: how will they vote then?
11:27 <epsy> excuse me, wtf were you saying 15 mins ago?
11:27 <hoop> email?
11:27 <Lacrymosa> erm, the ones used in the ladles before
11:27 <Goodygumdrops> I don't know what they are
11:27 <Goodygumdrops> do you?
11:27 <Goodygumdrops> :-)
11:28 <Goodygumdrops> I think they have changed over the years
11:28 <K-Yo> hoop: o_O, how could we check who said what, players could say "yeah I sent an email but u didn't read it!"
11:28 <Lacrymosa> no, but I'm sure there are people on the world who do know
11:28 <hoop> the team will provide the internal discussion itself, then present a list of votes
11:28 <Goodygumdrops> and some ladles have had different settings on different servers
11:28 <K-Yo> hoop: that is better
11:28 <Goodygumdrops> for instance, I remember playing a ladle that had score_hole 1 on some servers and 0 on others
11:28 <Goodygumdrops> certainly we know that orginally it was 0...since there was no setting
11:29 <epsy> until now, it has been: 1/ holing points depending on players and admin 2/ no winzone 3/ 2v2 conquerable and 4/ 10 pts all in one for winning
11:29 <K-Yo> done
11:29 <hoop> the team leader will be responsible to give durka, or who else the list before next sunday
11:29 <Goodygumdrops> until recently, it has been no holing points ever
11:29 <Durka> hoop
11:29 <Lacrymosa> I dont even know who my team leader is
11:29 <Goodygumdrops> haha, don't put durka in charge
11:29 <hoop> lol
11:30 <K-Yo> Lacrymosa xD
11:30 <Goodygumdrops> he's busy
11:30 <Durka> i dont think everyone should have a say
11:30 <Goodygumdrops> oh snap!
11:30 <Durka> what if all the teams decided
11:30 <hoop> not everyone: every team
11:30 <Durka> to increase the rubber to 15
11:30 <Durka> then what
11:30 <K-Yo> Here, we have to chose the settings for ladle 16.
11:30 <K-Yo> about these settings:
11:30 <K-Yo> [code]1) score_hole
11:30 <K-Yo> 2) fortress conquering (2v2 issue, conquerable or not)
11:30 <K-Yo> 3) scoring (10, 5/5, 6/4)
11:30 <K-Yo> 4) winzone (or deathzone, yes/no, when?)[/code]
11:30 <K-Yo> there is ONE vote per team on each of this settings, talk about this INTERNALLY, don't spam this thread with team talks.
11:30 <K-Yo> Please vote before October the 5th, and don't vote unless you're a team leader or had the agreement of your team leader to vote.
11:30 <Goodygumdrops> lol, it's a player-run tournament, durka
11:30 <epsy> pastebin >.>
11:30 <Lacrymosa> if the rubber will be increased, i'm out
11:30 <Goodygumdrops> same
11:30 <K-Yo> not that long
11:30 <hoop> Durka: we have 4 points to decide, nothing else
11:30 <epsy> K-Yo, how are we gonna c&p it?
11:30 <Goodygumdrops> if al lthe teams decide to ruin the settings, then Iw on't play
11:30 <Durka> Lacrymosa: im kidding obviously
11:30 <hoop> :P
11:31 <Goodygumdrops> let's have a win zone at the start of the round
11:31 <K-Yo> http://armagetron.pastebin.com/m266312b0
11:31 <Durka> LOL
11:31 <Goodygumdrops> and it gets smaller as the round goes on
11:31 <K-Yo> epsy: I can post it ;)
11:32 <K-Yo> why would team chose wuch stupid settings? open your eyes: tr, ct, ds, mc, lacks, x, ww, KO
11:32 <K-Yo> who would chose stupid settings?
11:32 <hoop> K-Yo: perfect
11:32 <K-Yo> or senceless
11:32 <epsy> me ?
11:32 <hoop> lol
11:32 <K-Yo> but there are 7 other teams
11:32 <Durka> keyo
11:32 <epsy> the first who finds the thread?
11:32 <Durka> dont post it
11:32 <Durka> plz dont
11:32 <K-Yo> ?
11:32 <Durka> im adding other stuff to it
11:32 <epsy> who are you going to email btw?
11:32 <K-Yo> ok
11:33 <hoop> only: the points should be explained
11:33 <K-Yo> yeah
11:33 <hoop> why should people spam it?
11:33 <K-Yo> Durka: show us before posting ;)
11:33 <Durka> i will
11:33 <epsy> before us posting Durka: show
11:34 <K-Yo> ;)
11:34 <hoop> Durka: quick!
11:34 <K-Yo> you forgot the ;) epsy
11:34 <epsy> i stripped it
11:34 <K-Yo> aah
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11:35 <K-Yo> hoop: people with no clan could want to talk about it, I asked not to spam the thread (no everyone finds this obvious)
11:36 <evaldusia> about what?
11:36 <hoop> true
11:36 <epsy> what do you mean, to not spam it?
11:36 <Goodygumdrops> we're talking about the best way to kidnap evaldusia
11:36 <hoop> epsy: forums post
11:36 <epsy> = to not post porn links?
11:36 <evaldusia> NO
11:36 <Goodygumdrops> we're going to vote on possible methods
11:36 <Durka> almost done
11:36 <hoop> Durka: timeout
11:37 <K-Yo> epsy: not to talk about this between team members on this thread
11:37 <epsy> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
11:37 <teabot> epsy: The number of seconds Durka can stay online on irc = 30
11:37 <evaldusia> lol
11:37 <hoop> zomg thats not durka
11:37 <K-Yo> @calc?the?number?of?minutes?durka?can?stay?online?on?irc
11:37 <K-Yo> ah
11:37 <epsy> K-Yo, your client sucks
11:37 <K-Yo> yeah
11:37 <K-Yo> pidgin
11:37 <epsy> pidging suxxx
11:38 <epsy> lol
11:38 <K-Yo> coz of 1200
11:38  * hoop agrees
11:38 <Lacrymosa> since when do we have a teabot?
11:38 <K-Yo> and pidgin on windows sucks even more
11:38 <epsy> zomg cupofteaplz
11:38 <K-Yo> @pleasegimmetea
11:38 <epsy> zomg cupofteaplease
11:38 <teabot> Certainly, it would be a pleasure seeing as you asked so nicely.
11:39 <Lackadaisical> wait are we doing the one vote per team thing now?
11:39 <epsy> K-Yo, xchat anyone?
11:39 <K-Yo> zomg cupoftea
11:39 <hoop> yes
11:39 <K-Yo> K-Yo: had it, I'll prob put it back
11:39 <Lackadaisical> but i dont want to have to argue with monkey about these settings :(
11:39 <Goodygumdrops> hahaha
11:39 <K-Yo> but I use pidgin also for yahoo
11:39 <hoop> you decide
11:39  * epsy agrees with Lackadaisical 
11:39 <K-Yo> poor Lackadaisical
11:39 <Durka> ok now im officially done
11:39 <Lacrymosa> argueing with monkey is generally not a thing anybody wants to do
11:39 <epsy> K-Yo, i use pidging for msn/jabber etc
11:40 <epsy> not for irc
11:40 <K-Yo> show us, show us!
11:40 <epsy> because it sucks for irc
11:40 <hoop> Lacrymosa: 1200 ?
11:40 <Goodygumdrops> I can't convince some people to consider personalities when building their teams...
11:40 <hoop> Lackas team is not built at all
11:40 <Durka> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/773/snapshot20080928024021ww0.png
11:41 <Durka> k look
11:41 <Durka> ^
11:41 <epsy> link?
11:41 <Goodygumdrops> looks good
11:41 <Lacrymosa> yeah
11:41 <Lacrymosa> but the colors suck
11:41 <Goodygumdrops> well...it doesn't LOOK good
11:41 <hoop> those points should be a bit explained imo
11:41 <Durka> i took a screenshot
11:41 <Goodygumdrops> I like what you ave written
11:41 <Durka> of the preview in arma forums
11:42 <Durka> gimme a break
11:42 <hoop> nvm
11:43 <Durka> ok
11:43 <Durka> so can i post it?
11:43 <epsy> Topic title: ZOMGLULZLADELSETTINGS
11:43 <hoop> no
11:43 <K-Yo> hoop: maybe just add: ask if you need more explainations?
11:43 <hoop> replace 'Please vote' with something stronger
11:43 <K-Yo> DO vote!
11:43 <Durka> k
11:43 <K-Yo> xD
11:43 <epsy> or just Vote
11:43 <Lacrymosa> Vote or die
11:43 <hoop> ^^
11:43 <epsy> VoD!
11:44 <Lacrymosa> lol
11:44 <K-Yo> or just put "if you don't vote, the other teams will be the ones choosing the settings"
11:44 <K-Yo> ><
11:44 <hoop> thats obvious
11:44 <Lackadaisical> am i the only one against one vote per team
11:44 <Lackadaisical> ?
11:44 <hoop> yes
11:44 <hoop> lol
11:44 <Lacrymosa> obviously
11:44 <K-Yo> seems so (among players here)
11:44 <hoop> what you'd do?
11:44 <Lackadaisical> meh
11:44 <hoop> one vote per player??
11:44 <Lackadaisical> take everones vote who's interested
11:44 <epsy> Lackadaisical, no
11:44 <Lackadaisical> yeah
11:44 <Lackadaisical> why not?
11:45 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical: make it democracycal in your team, so you won't get annoyed
11:45 <epsy> <Lackadaisical> am i the only one against one vote per team
11:45 <Lackadaisical> if they dont  vote they obviously dont care
11:45 <Lackadaisical> ah ok
11:45 <Lacrymosa> well, I dont mind if every player would be able to vote or not
11:45 <epsy> K-Yo, democracy IS annoying
11:45 <Durka> ok well i can edit my post
11:45 <Durka> but here
11:45 <Durka> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18717
11:45 <K-Yo> me neither, but there are some teams were we have more players than others
11:45 <epsy> you are the one with the most players atm
11:46 <K-Yo> we are obviously more in CT than in other teams, and I don't think anyone will be happy us having more votes than others
11:46 <K-Yo> (I don't mind personally)
11:46 <epsy> half of your team doesnt even know what the ladle is xD
11:46 <K-Yo> but I can tell them :D and get their votes
11:46 <Lackadaisical> well it's not like being in one team means you vote like all others in that team
11:46 <Lacrymosa> true
11:47 <hoop> also one vote per team would be simpler to parse
11:47 <Durka> i dont like this line
11:47 <K-Yo> let's do this: every player that wants to (and that plays in a team) votes, and we will do the average of each team
11:47 <Durka> Please talk about this internally (don't spam this thread with team discussions).
11:47 <K-Yo> then the avecrage of all teams averages
11:47 <Durka> I think ppl should be able to post their thoughts in that thread
11:47 <epsy> Lacrymosa, yeah
11:47 <epsy> Lackadaisical, *
11:47 <K-Yo> let's do it by player
11:47 <K-Yo> and make the calculus by team
11:47  * epsy agrees!
11:48 <K-Yo> by ourselves
11:48 <epsy> better
11:48 <Lackadaisical> durka maybe one place to vote, one thread to discuss?
11:48 <hoop> ?
11:48 <K-Yo> Lacagreed
11:48 <epsy> Lackadaisical, that would be 5 places
11:48 <K-Yo> ?
11:48 <hoop> <K-Yo> and make the calculus by team ??
11:48 <K-Yo> yeah
11:48 <Lacrymosa> I dont get that either hoop
11:48 <hoop> what does that mean
11:48 <K-Yo> if 10 cters voted and only 2 mc for eg
11:48 <Durka> ok im gonna BRB
11:48 <hoop> K-Yo: that would be ok
11:49 <K-Yo> the 2 mc choices will count as much as the 10 cters
11:49 <hoop> doesnt matter imo
11:49 <K-Yo> I do matter
11:49 <hoop> you do?
11:49 <epsy> yeah, (players from ct who voted yes)/(players from ct who voted)
11:49 <Lackadaisical> that would just make me not tell the others in m y team they can vote
11:49 <hoop> XD
11:49 <epsy> etc
11:49 <Lackadaisical> so my vote would count for 8!
11:49 <K-Yo> else we'll get annoyed for years because we ruined the ladle for chosing crappy settings
11:49 <Goodygumdrops> haha, lacka
11:49 <Goodygumdrops> if we do 1 vote per team
11:49 <Goodygumdrops> just don't tell them
11:49 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical: WE will tell them ;)
11:50 <epsy> Goodygumdrops, yup
11:50 <Lacrymosa> I'll just leave this voting stuff to my team cpt and focus on playing
11:50 <hoop> I am for 1 vote per player, don't care about teams
11:50 <Goodygumdrops> who's your captain?
11:50 <Goodygumdrops> lacry?
11:50 <epsy> Lacrymosa, but who is it?!
11:50 <Lackadaisical> isnt it 1200?
11:50 <Goodygumdrops> is he even registered on forums?
11:51 <Lacrymosa> I think he is
11:51 <Goodygumdrops> personally, I wouldn't leave anything up to 1200 haha
11:51 <K-Yo> is ANYONE against the one vote per player, without caring about teams?
11:52 <Goodygumdrops> I prefer one vote per team
11:52 <epsy> i'm not
11:52 <Lacrymosa> I dont mind
11:52 <epsy> or one vote per team, but each player can vote and then everything gets summed up
11:52 <hoop> ^^?
11:52 <Lacrymosa> we could out-sumo the settings as well
11:53 <epsy> player_1 settings
11:53 <K-Yo> okay, hoop and epsy anything against summing by team?
11:53 <K-Yo> hoop: you said u don't mind
11:53 <epsy> <epsy> or one vote per team, but each player can vote and then everything gets summed up
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11:53 <K-Yo> epsy: I don't know how we could do this, if CT votes, and 3 xers vote
11:53 <K-Yo> how will we do?
11:53 <Durka> back
11:53 <K-Yo> make the average of x, and count it as the team vote?
11:53 <epsy> divide by the number of people who voted
11:54 <Lackadaisical> one vote per players
11:54 <K-Yo> okay
11:54 <Lackadaisical> player*
11:54 <K-Yo> what is a "player"? someone that will be on the grid in one of the matches?
11:54 <pavelo> i don't know why you are making such a fuss about this thing... all the suggested settings still provide a symmetrical game, and don't change anything fundamental.... the only question is who can exploit them better...
11:54 <pavelo> if you took this time to invent strategies instead of arguing, you would be well better off
11:54 <K-Yo> :)
11:54 <Goodygumdrops> yeah
11:55 <Goodygumdrops> good call
11:55 <Goodygumdrops> I'm going to bed
11:55 <hoop> but it's funny :P
11:55 <Goodygumdrops> night
11:55 <Durka> ok
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11:55 <Lackadaisical> night
11:55 <Lacrymosa> night
11:55 <Durka> since freako's not around
11:55 <epsy> party time!
11:55 <Durka> i think ill just be in charge
11:55 <K-Yo> ok, let's just make people wote without much 'rules' and we'll see if a "major choice" comes up
11:55 <Durka> one vote per team
11:55 <Durka> thats it
11:55 <Durka> EOD
11:55 <hoop> ok
11:55 <epsy> how is the ladle YOURS ?
11:55 <Durka> i never said it was
11:55 <Durka> but i helped freako revive it
11:56 <epsy> ok so why are you insinuating that you and freako should decide?
11:56 <Lacrymosa> god bless america
11:56 <Durka> oO
11:56 <Durka> well
11:56 <K-Yo> I have some work to do
11:56 <K-Yo> later ;)
11:56 <Durka> cuz there wouldnt be a ladle in 2 weeks
11:56 <Durka> thats bad reasoning tho
11:56 <epsy> the main idea behind lidle is that everybody takes part in it's organization
11:56 <Durka> nonono
11:56 <epsy> the ladle*
11:56 <Durka> its that everybody takes part IN IT
11:57 <Durka> the idea is
11:57 <Durka> go to wiki challenge board
11:57 <Durka> throw ur name on a team
11:57 <Durka> show up
11:57 <Durka> play
11:57 <Durka> not to be involved with all the planning crap
11:57 <Durka> and settings, etc
11:57 <Durka> yes its player organized
11:57 <epsy> so why are we bothing with that?
11:57 <epsy> bothering*
11:57 <Durka> but that doesnt mean everyone has a say
11:57 <Durka> because i thought
11:57 <epsy> huh?
11:57 <Durka> the settings should be decided
11:57 <Lacrymosa> by the players
11:57 <Durka> since most every fort server has different ones
11:58 <Durka> so i came in here
11:58 <Durka> and asked u guys
11:58 <Durka> cuz i was making them tonight
11:58 <Durka> so 2maro, when we play vs OT, we have the ladle settings
11:58 <Durka> or something similar
11:58 <Durka> o
11:58 <Durka> and lack
11:58 <Durka> so for 2maro
11:58 <Durka> we have
11:58 <Durka> score_hole 0
11:58 <Durka> 10/0
11:58 <Durka> no winzone
11:58 <Durka> and 2 v 2 CONQUERABLE
11:58 <epsy> :)
11:58 <Lackadaisical> 2v2 unconq please
11:59 <hoop> lol
11:59 <epsy> it has always been 2v2 conquerable
11:59 <Durka> yes
11:59 <hoop> yea, time to change
11:59 <epsy> ..and fucking great like that, too
11:59 <Lackadaisical> time to change!
11:59 <Durka> well
11:59 <Lackadaisical> change we can believe in!
11:59 <Durka> thats why we have the bote
11:59 <Durka> BUT BUT BUT
11:59 <epsy> 2v2 unconquerable is sterile
11:59 <Durka> heres the problem
11:59 <Durka> actually nvr mind
11:59 <hoop> Durka: imo post that, 1 vote per team
12:00 <Durka> we'll see
12:00 <Durka> yea it is
12:00 <Durka> i already posted i thought
12:00 <hoop> right
12:00 <Lacrymosa> make a vote about the voting system
12:00 <epsy> no you didn't :d
12:00 <hoop> hehe
12:00 <epsy> Lacrymosa, how should we put up that poll?
12:00 <Lacrymosa> Either vote for a) Every player can vote or b) one vote per team
12:00 <Durka> no thats stupid
12:01 <Durka> we're wasting our time
12:01 <Durka> no
12:01 <Lacrymosa> really?
12:01 <Durka> wasting time
12:01 <Durka> besides
12:01 <Durka> we have to be logical
12:01 <Durka> if everyone voted score_hole 1
12:01 <Durka> but theres a clear reason why it should be score_hole 0
12:01  * hoop thought Lacrymosa was kidding
12:01  * Lacrymosa  was
12:01 <hoop> btw, I'd like to know if there's a deadline for signing up teammembers
12:02 <Durka> er, change everyone to 60%
12:02 <Lackadaisical> if everyone votes score_hole 1 we should go with score_hole 1
12:02 <epsy> hoop, in fact, you don't really have to
12:02 <Lackadaisical> even then
12:02 <Durka> if 60% vote score_hole 1
12:02 <Durka> blah w/e
12:02 <epsy> then we choose score_hole 1
12:02 <hoop> epsy: have to what?
12:02 <Lackadaisical> appearantly 60% of the voters think its logical to have hole_score 1
12:02 <Durka> yes
12:02 <Durka> but u have to realize
12:02 <epsy> <hoop> btw, I'd like to know if there's a deadline for signing up teammembers
12:02 <Durka> they might not be thinking logically
12:03 <Durka> notice how the fort population has declined?
12:03 <Lackadaisical> maybe the 40% isnt thinking logically
12:03 <epsy> do you think logically ?
12:03 <hoop> ok
12:03 <hoop> :P
12:03 <Durka> ppl dont see the big picture as to why to pick X setting
12:03 <Durka> well
12:03 <Durka> i think its safe to say
12:03 <Durka> ppl will pick no winzone
12:03 <epsy> to say 40% should win over 60%, probably isn't very logical itself
12:03  * Lacrymosa agrees with durka
12:04 <Lackadaisical> thats why i said we need another thread with discussion or a list with pros and cons
12:04 <Durka> as long as SP isnt voting ;P
12:04 <hoop> waitwait, how about we get 4 votes for scorehole and 4 against ?? oO
12:04 <Durka> then we'll address that at the time
12:04 <pavelo> well what's the big picture about hole scores, I'm really intereseted to hear that
12:04 <Durka> but i dont think we will
12:04 <Durka> ok here we go pav
12:04 <Durka> lets say ur in the middle of the map
12:04 <Durka> ur teammate crashes into lack
12:04 <Durka> u go thru the hole
12:04 <Durka> why should u get 1 point?
12:04 <Durka> moving on
12:04 <pavelo> why not ?
12:04 <epsy> for hunting a hole?
12:05 <Durka> ur attacking against madmax
12:05 <Lacrymosa> taking a hole is already an advantage
12:05 <Durka> he pwns u
12:05 <Lackadaisical> i think just the fact that there are people who are for and against score_hole 1 means that there is a bigger picture
12:05 <Durka> lack goes thru the hole
12:05 <Durka> now whats the reward we're looking at
12:05 <Durka> is it really the +1 ur concerned with?
12:05 <epsy> it gives the defender even less of an advantage
12:05 <Durka> NO
12:05 <Durka> the reward is getting into the zone
12:05 <Durka> which could potentially be +10
12:05 <epsy> he, by killing risks 1/ being holed and 2/ giving a point
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12:06 <Durka> exactly
12:06 <Durka> theres NO logical reason to pick score_hole 1
12:06 <Durka> if anything, it should be -2 or -1
12:06 <pavelo> what IS logical thinking? thinking the same way as you ?
12:06 <Durka> if ur gonna go thru the hole to get into their defense
12:06 <Durka> "the easy way"
12:06 <Durka> u should sacrifice some points
12:06 <Lacrymosa> no
12:07 <epsy> to give the attacker even more disadvantages? he is already penalied enough
12:07 <Durka> so its only +8 or +9 conquering
12:07 <Durka> but then thats stupid!
12:07 <Durka> so ZERO is the way to go
12:07 <Durka> agreed?
12:07  * Durka agrees
12:07 <Lacrymosa> zero ftw
12:07 <Durka> see guys, Durka agrees
12:07 <hoop> how about we get 4 votes for scorehole and 4 against ?? oO
12:07 <Durka> pavelo: yep
12:07 <Durka> im logical :D
12:07 <pavelo> hoop: worry about that later
12:07 <epsy> ur american :/
12:07 <Durka> hoop if that happnes
12:08 <Durka> epsy: im not republican
12:08 <Durka> bush ftl
12:08 <epsy> Durka, do not drink hot coffee!
12:08 <pavelo> you can always make it 0.5 pts (can you?)
12:08 <Durka> VPILF ftw?
12:08 <hoop> ok, no worries :P
12:08 <epsy> pavelo, no
12:08 <Durka> hoop
12:08 <Durka> if that happens
12:08 <pavelo> the scores are integral ?
12:08 <Lacrymosa> pav, that would lead to ugly scores
12:08 <hoop> epsy: change that setting to REAL too
12:08 <epsy> pavelo, score = int
12:08 <Durka> we'll just take the decision made here
12:08 <epsy> score_hole = int
12:08 <Durka> guys
12:08 <Durka> hoop brings up a good point
12:08 <Durka> IF the votes are tied
12:09 <Durka> we need a tie breaker
12:09 <Lacrymosa> me, me
12:09 <hoop> lol
12:09 <epsy> Durka, settings that were original
12:09 <Durka> i say the tie breaker be the decision we make RIGHT NOW
12:09 <Lacrymosa> flip a coin
12:09 <hoop> 'we' ?
12:09 <Durka> yes
12:09 <hoop> we who?
12:09 <Durka> we will take a vote right now
12:09 <pavelo> hoop: we = durka
12:09 <hoop> lol
12:09 <Durka> all who want to vote go to the ladle chanel
12:09 <epsy> Durka, no holes, 2v2 conq, no wz, and original scoring
12:09 <Durka>  /join #arma-ladle
12:09 <epsy> IE. what we had until recently
12:09 <Lackadaisical> tbh its always been like this, with 2020 usually taking the decision if noone else did
12:10 <Lacrymosa> why do we always need extra channels
12:10  * epsy proposes #armagetron.tourneys
12:10 <Lackadaisical> it's not like this one is being used for something else..
12:10 <Durka> to keep from the other 37 ppl voting
12:10 <Durka> o cmon just click the room
12:10 <Durka> are u that lazy
12:11 <hoop> vote for channel name now please
12:11 <hoop> Durka: pavelo is right: dont bother now about that
12:11 <hoop> that point may not even come up
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13:14 <K-Yo> guru3: maybe add a link to #armagetron.tourneys in this chan's topic
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14:38 <K-Yo> Flex: hoop: what are your GIDs?
14:39 <hoop> K-Yo: whats a GID?
14:39 <K-Yo> hoop@forums ?
14:40 <hoop> yes
14:40 <K-Yo> General ID
14:40 <K-Yo> ok
14:40 <K-Yo> you'll be mod on CT ladle fort
14:40 <K-Yo> I tihnk u have a match there no?
14:40 <hoop> do I? XD ok cool
14:41 <K-Yo> Flex: I used Flex@forums for you,tell me if I4m wrong
14:41 <hoop> K-Yo: our first match will be in a 'to be determined' server
14:43 <K-Yo> arf
14:43 <K-Yo> anyway, I mod 1 person per team
14:43 <K-Yo> and you know how to use the admin commands
14:44 <K-Yo> .si -v ladle
14:44 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080819 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “AFL Fortress Settings.“, Players (1/26): cT¤K-Yo
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14:44 <K-Yo> this one
14:45 <hoop> ok =)
14:45 <Lackadaisical> K-Yo: are you going to use that server today?
14:45 <K-Yo> we have 2 lack
14:45 <Lackadaisical> we're looking for a server for our practice match tonight..
14:45 <K-Yo> .si -v fortress 2
14:45 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 ( running 0.2.8_alpha20080423 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Ladle Fortress Settings.“, Players (0/26):
14:46 <Lackadaisical> ah ok so we could use that one?
14:46 <K-Yo> there will be ladle fort, ladle fort 2 and prob fort café clone. we can't close café for one team, but there is prob on ladle fort who can be used by other players
14:46 <K-Yo> dunno, kyle is taking care of that
14:46 <K-Yo> I think flex already asked
14:46 <K-Yo> isn't he in ur team
14:46 <K-Yo> ?
14:46 <Lackadaisical> yeah
14:47 <akira_arma> when do we practice hoop?
14:47 <akira_arma> ;)
14:47 <Lackadaisical> he doesnt seem here atm but i guess he took care of it then, if you're giving him mod powers now
14:47 <K-Yo> lack: he has them on 1
14:48 <K-Yo> I"ll do the same for 2
14:48 <hoop> akira_arma: have you read the wiki discussion?
14:48 <akira_arma> no!
14:48 <hoop> akira_arma: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:MATADO_CORE
14:49 <akira_arma> eh
14:49 <hoop> ;P
14:50 <akira_arma> we just need to find best spots for each
14:50 <akira_arma> ;)
14:51 <Lackadaisical> K-Yo: could i have them as well?
14:53 <K-Yo> Lack yep
14:53 <K-Yo> lack: only you or both of you?
14:53 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical@forums ?
14:53 <Lackadaisical> both of us preferably
14:53 <Lackadaisical> yeah
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14:58 <Ratchet--> h4llo
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15:07 <madmax> hi
15:07 <hoop> hi
15:08 <hoop> madmax: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18717
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15:14 <madmax> ah, just read that. I guess I'd pretty much agree with durka's settings, just not sure about the 10/6-4 scoring
15:15 <madmax> has any competition been played with 6-4?
15:16 <Monkey_arma> I like the 10 scoring system myself
15:16 <hoop> idk, I'd vote 6/4
15:19 <K-Yo> me too
15:19 <Lackadaisical> yeah there was a whole discussion on it
15:19 <Lackadaisical> i'd really rather not go through it again
15:19 <hoop> no!
15:19 <K-Yo> same
15:19 <hoop> I wanted to post it for madmax' pleasure but i can't get the logs :S
15:20 <K-Yo> hoop: I have them
15:20 <hoop> K-Yo: http://rafb.net/paste/
15:20 <madmax> where? here on the #?
15:20 <Lackadaisical> partly here, partly on #armagetron.tourneys which was then still #arma.ladle
15:21 <madmax> oh
15:21 <hoop> madmax: I'd make an average of teammembers' votes, let me know
15:21 <K-Yo> http://key3113.free.fr/2008-09-28.105410+0200CEST.html
15:22 <K-Yo> I left after / before
15:22 <K-Yo> I don't have everything
15:22 <K-Yo> but most of it
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15:25 <Lackadaisical> half of that discussion was deciding about how we were going to decide on settings
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15:27 <madmax> lol
15:27 <K-Yo> xD
15:27 <K-Yo> true
15:27  * madmax is reading it
15:27 <hoop> madmax: it's missing the best part though :S
15:31 <Lackadaisical> noone has a log of arma.ladle?
15:32 <K-Yo> hoop: the best part is before or after?
15:33 <hoop> in #arma-ladle
15:33 <pavelo> i can paste the thing if you reaaaaaaaaally want to
15:33 <hoop> hehe
15:34 <hoop> I can't get the log cause #arma-ladle is redirecting to #armagetron.tourneys :\
15:34 <K-Yo> I must haz it
15:35 <K-Yo> http://key3113.free.fr/2008-09-28.122440+0200CEST.html
15:35 <K-Yo> herez
15:36 <hoop> lol 80% Durkas
15:40 <madmax> meh, 6/4 I guess
15:40 <madmax> bbl
15:43 <hoop> ok cu
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16:31 <Concord> #aka candy concoction
16:31 <armabot> Concord: I don't know anything about 'candy_concoction'!
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16:38 <epsy> #aka b-bird
16:38 <armabot> epsy: I don't know anything about 'b-bird'!
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17:25 <hoop> hoax: is that on forum x clan's vote?
17:34 <ivantis> #aka ivantis
17:34 <armabot> ivantis: ¿15643 ivantis
17:34 <ivantis> #aka cybird
17:34 <armabot> ivantis: I don't know anything about 'cybird'!
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17:43 <epsy> there we go
17:47 <hoax> hoop, no just mine :o
17:48 <hoop> hoax: "but don't vote unless you're a team leader, or have the agreement of your team leader to vote"
17:49 <epsy> we have no team leader
17:49 <hoax> heh then ill update it once ive convinced epsy 6/4 is better than 10 :D
17:49 <hoop> gl
17:49 <epsy> actually, i don't care
17:49 <hoax> lol
17:50 <epsy> i prefer 10/0 or 5/5, but i'm fine if it's 6/4
17:50 <hoop> anyway it should be 1 vote per team
17:51 <hoax> Ok my post is x's vote.
17:52 <epsy> do we need, as xclan players, to confirm what hoax posted is our vote?
17:52 <Monkey_arma> hi corn
17:54 <hoop> hoax: just edit ur post specifing that it's x team's vote
17:55 <hoax> hoop, already done
17:55 <hoop> cooooool :P
17:56 <hoax> btw hoop if told u to wake up its bc you were afk at start <3
17:56 <hoop> did you?
17:56 <hoax> lol
18:01 <Corn> hey monkey
18:17 <ivantis>  
18:18 <ivantis> #corn
18:18 <ivantis> #corn
18:18 <armabot> CORN!
18:18 <Corn> yes?
18:18 <ivantis> no?
18:18 <Corn> sorry my arma client is on top of my irc
18:18 <ivantis> nl3993msd!
18:19 <ivantis> man
18:19 <Corn> sorry?
18:19 <ivantis> i havent played in a while
18:19 <ivantis> what server?
18:19 <Corn> playing on fortress cafe ct remake
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18:44 <_Ratchet> hi corn
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18:55 <Corn> hey ratch
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18:57 <K-Yo> anyone has the ability to lock this: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=19940 ?
18:58 <K-Yo> seems it's the only way to stop child-like acts ><
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19:03 <epsy> K-Yo, uhm...that topic is 3 years old
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19:04 <madmax> why would you want to close a thread about server artwork!! :(
19:04 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo lol
19:04 <madmax> anyway, tank is the only moderator
19:04 <Monkey_arma> and yes please do lock the thread
19:04 <epsy> now, can guru3 please split this off: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199401#199401
19:04 <epsy> Monkey_arma, why would one lock that?!
19:05 <Monkey_arma> not that thread
19:05 <epsy> we are talking about « Breakfast artwork request »
19:05 <Monkey_arma> i dont think K-Yo meant that one
19:05 <epsy> <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=19940>
19:05 <epsy> well that's what he wrote
19:05 <Monkey_arma> i know he did
19:05 <Monkey_arma> but i think he made an error
19:06 <epsy> why do you want to lock a topic, when you don't even know what topic we're talking about?!
19:08 <Monkey_arma> epsy i am pretty sure K-Yo means this one:
19:08 <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199404&sid=bf138245368d2095e9ab7771c29f9a65#199404
19:08 <epsy> your argument about w/e ?
19:08 <Monkey_arma> K-Yo agreed?
19:09 <K-Yo> I meant that one indeed
19:09 <K-Yo> arf, I missed the last char
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19:12 <hoop> that topic looks selflocked already, doesn't it?
19:13 <K-Yo> hoop: don't dream too much
19:13 <epsy> no, Monkey will keep arguing while it's obvious that he's lieing
19:13 <hoop> ehehe, I didnt read well indeed
19:13 <Monkey_arma> ok enough man we need to stop this
19:13 <Monkey_arma> lol
19:14 <epsy> because you got pwnt and have no way to prove anything?
19:14 <K-Yo> epsy: stfu plz ><
19:14 <K-Yo> it's ok
19:14 <Monkey_arma> epsy speak to wrtl if it really makes you happy otherwise, as K-Yo suggest, stfu
19:14 <K-Yo> just let it go
19:14 <K-Yo> both Monkey_arma and hoax are full totally wrong and we're done :D
19:14 <Monkey_arma> heh
19:14 <Monkey_arma> !
19:14 <K-Yo> Monkey_arma: stfu u too :P
19:14 <Ttech> 1000$$$$
19:14 <Ttech> 0ow0.
19:14 <Ttech> 20o2
19:14 <epsy> Monkey_arma, actually, i don't give a fuck, except if it's to ruin your point.
19:15 <Monkey_arma>  /ignore epsy: done
19:15 <epsy> WEEEEEEEEEEE!
19:15 <madmax> I think you need to do a full contact fight in order to sort things out. please do record it and put it in youtube though
19:15 <epsy> some freeness here!
19:15 <K-Yo> madmax: /me agrees
19:15 <epsy> no more arguing as soon as i talk!
19:15 <K-Yo> virtual talk-fight sucks
19:15 <epsy> forums suck
19:16 <madmax> indeed. there's too many of those K-Yo
19:16 <epsy> now i can say things about Monkey_arma in his back :o)
19:16 <hoop> lol
19:19 <epsy> while I'm still ignored, why doesn't http://monkey.mastercontrolprogram.de/vip/ lead anywhere now?
19:19 <hoop> Monkey_arma: me hopes you didn't take my opinion as personally against you, although your answer looks like that. I really have nothing against you, I just said what I think
19:19 <Monkey_arma> me too hoop
19:19 <Monkey_arma> i was just stating my view on modding
19:20 <Monkey_arma> i believe mod should not have to be popular but should use powers when people take the piss
19:20 <Monkey_arma> i do think you dont use it enough
19:20 <hoop> heh, not while I'm playing
19:20 <Monkey_arma> lazy ;)
19:21 <hoop> btw "I dont teach noobs" is the bigger lie ever :P
19:21 <Monkey_arma> a little u do but not a lot
19:21 <Monkey_arma> you just seem to get on with your playing
19:21 <hoop> what seems is not what it is
19:21 <Corn> why are you guys fighting, the issue is over
19:22 <Monkey_arma> but you are not a badmin, i am not saying that
19:22 <hoop> fighting?
19:22 <Monkey_arma> we not fighting
19:22 <Corn> arguing w/e
19:22 <hoop> whats wrong with arguuing
19:22 <Corn> didnt really mean you two
19:22 <hoop> k
19:22 <Monkey_arma> if you mean hoax then that is different but lets leave that alone
19:22 <hoop> nothing wrong with fighting too
19:22 <Corn> it can have its problems
19:23 <hoop> imo mostly fighting solves problems
19:23 <Corn> but sometimes starts them
19:23 <hoop> unless you use violence
19:23 <hoop> hehe, bullshits ftw
19:23 <Corn> violence isnt very possible over the internet
19:23 <epsy> <Clarence voice> come on we all know Monkey_arma wants is just trying to bash others to hide the fact that he's lieing all the way
19:24 <madmax> Corn: you could have access to a nuclear missile silo
19:24 <hoop> lolmax
19:24 <Corn> :P
19:25 <Corn> unless your bombing someones internets then thats violence in real life but w/e
19:25 <madmax> no no, bomb the guy's home!
19:25 <hoop> epsy: clearance voice doesn't need to be claimed
19:25 <Corn> lol
19:25 <epsy> clarence, i said clarence, not clearance
19:26 <Corn> thought it said clearance aswell :P
19:26 <hoop> I don't see the difference though XD
19:26  * hoop is a noob
19:26 <epsy> the reference might not be obvious
19:26 <epsy> it is not obvious, indeed
19:26 <Corn> whats it from? some movie? book?
19:27 <epsy> but well, if you don't get the reference, forget about it
19:27 <hoop> well, you know that I know what you know about what I mean
19:27 <Corn> "well, you know that I know what you know about what I mean"
19:27 <hoop> stoler
19:27 <hoop> stealer*?
19:27 <Corn> read that twice i dont have a clue what you are saying
19:27 <epsy> yes, stealer
19:28 <epsy> or thief
19:28 <hoop> man my eng sucks
19:28 <hoop> Corn: me neither
19:28 <hoop> neither me*?
19:29 <hoop> woooot warm chicken calling me bye :PPP
19:29 <epsy> K-Yo, VIP sucks doesn't it?
19:32 <Flex> wow you're a dick epsy
19:33 <epsy> Flex, was just proving K-Yo i'm on Monkey_arma's ignore
19:33 <Flex> that's how you prove it
19:34 <epsy> that's the best and probably only way to prove it
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19:45 <MrBougo> #help crazylate
19:45 <armabot> MrBougo: (crazylate <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "babelize spanish english [babelfish translate english spanish $*]".
19:45 <akira_arma> .tea
19:45 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (2/32): CT_emmy, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums)
19:46 <Corn> akira wanna play fort
19:46 <akira_arma> hoop
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19:57 <pavelo> #crazylate akira wanna play fort
19:58 <armabot> pavelo: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
19:58 <pavelo> :/
20:07 <Ttech> pavelo, yea its bint like that bor muchs?
20:08 <Monkey_arma> Ttech when are we going to see you playing fort?
20:08 <pavelo> Ttech, could you elaborate on that
20:09 <Ttech> Monkey_arma,  I was playing?
20:09 <Monkey_arma> Ttech you were?
20:09 <Monkey_arma> as?
20:09 <ivantis> someone tell me how this website im working on is coming
20:10 <Ttech> Monkey_arma, the_Doctor?
20:10 <Ttech> Err The Doctor
20:10 <Lackadaisical> what website?
20:10 <ivantis> im making a site for the extra-cirricular program at my school
20:10 <ivantis> http://pace.us.to
20:10 <Ttech> armabot, fetch pace.us.to
20:10 <armabot> Ttech: Error: 'pace.us.to' is not a valid url.
20:10 <Ttech> :(
20:10 <epsy> @ls the doctor
20:10 <Ttech> armabot, fetch http://pace.us.to
20:10 <teabot> epsy: timed out
20:11 <Ttech> I'm that notable!
20:11 <Ttech> woo
20:11 <epsy> teabot, fail
20:11 <armabot> Ttech: timed out
20:11 <Lackadaisical> dont see anything ivantis
20:11 <Ttech> !botjoin
20:11 <ivantis> the page is kind of, large
20:11 <Ttech> @help ls
20:11 <teabot> Ttech: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
20:11 <Ttech> @help lastseen
20:11 <teabot> Ttech: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch [format concat http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player= [format join + $*]]".
20:11 <ivantis> and i host it on a slow DSL connection
20:11 <Lackadaisical> i get a timeout
20:11 <ivantis> it probably wont load for you
20:11 <ivantis> what country?
20:11 <Lackadaisical> netherlands
20:11 <ivantis> uh
20:11 <Lackadaisical> ah k
20:11 <ivantis> no
20:11 <Ttech> USA?
20:11 <epsy> @fetch http://pace.us.to/
20:11 <ivantis> yeah
20:11 <teabot> epsy: '<html>\n<head><title>CJHS PACE Program</title>\n</head>\n<body bgcolor=#FF958E text=#320EFE>\n<center><h2>Central Jr. High School PACE Program</h2>\n<br />\n<!--Start-->HOME PAGE TEXT<!--End-->\n<br />\n<br />\n<hr />\n<a href=/about.html>About</a> | <a href=/events.html>Current Activities</a> | <a href=http://schools.usd497.org/cjhs/ target=_BLANK>School Website</a> | <a href=/index.html>Home (1 more message)
20:11 <Ttech> it still fails
20:12 <Ttech> :>
20:12 <epsy> #fetch http://pace.us.to/
20:12 <armabot> epsy: '<html>\n<head><title>CJHS PACE Program</title>\n</head>\n<body bgcolor=#FF958E text=#320EFE>\n<center><h2>Central Jr. High School PACE Program</h2>\n<br />\n<!--Start-->HOME PAGE TEXT<!--End-->\n<br />\n<br />\n<hr />\n<a href=/about.html>About</a> | <a href=/events.html>Current Activities</a> | <a href=http://schools.usd497.org/cjhs/ target=_BLANK>School Website</a> | <a (1 more message)
20:12 <ivantis> it just worked for armabot
20:12 <ivantis> and teabot
20:12 <ivantis> anyway
20:12 <Ttech> aah
20:12 <epsy> teabot is in USA
20:12 <Ttech> wacik
20:12 <ivantis> its just a start
20:12 <Ttech> epsy, So is The_Pastor
20:12 <Ttech> ~nick The_Pastor
20:12 <ivantis> how do you get supybot hosting epsy?
20:12 <epsy> @ls The_Pastor
20:12 <Lackadaisical> you should use css for styling
20:12 <Ttech> oh
20:12 <ivantis> #ls epsy
20:12 <teabot> epsy: timed out
20:12 <ivantis> css?
20:13 <ivantis> i just started the day before yesterday
20:13 <armabot> ivantis: =>FcT<=epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café - CT's clone 2 hours 58 minutes ago.
20:13 <ivantis> nothing serious yet
20:13 -!- Ttech is now known as The_Pastor
20:13 -!- The_Pastor is now known as Ttech
20:13 <ivantis> FcT?
20:13 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member
20:13 <teabot> epsy: =>FcT<=epsy has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 3 hours 24 minutes ago.
20:13 <ivantis> epsy, what is that?
20:13 <ivantis> btw
20:13 <epsy> lol!
20:13 <ivantis> what is RINCLUDE?
20:13 <ivantis> how do i use that?
20:13 <pippijn> remote include, I suppose
20:13 <ivantis> right
20:13 <ivantis> but
20:13 <epsy> resource-include
20:13 <ivantis> how do i use it?
20:13 <ivantis> oh
20:13 <epsy> copy & paste?
20:13 <pippijn> oh
20:13 <ivantis> on the forums
20:14 <ivantis> it was
20:14 <pippijn> oh well
20:14 <pippijn> good guess I suppose :-D
20:14 <ivantis> RINCLUDE DDMJ@forums/some-file.cfg
20:14 <ivantis> how do i upload stuff to my forums account for that
20:14 <epsy> you can't, i'm currently just faking that
20:14 <ivantis> well, that would be a great idea
20:15 <epsy> but my job is to make that possible
20:15 <ivantis> does it work in 0.2.8
20:15 <ivantis> and sty?
20:15 <epsy> should work
20:15 <ivantis> kay
20:15 <epsy> epsy@epsy 0.2.8 $ ./armagetronad --doc | grep -i rinclude
20:15 <epsy> RINCLUDE                     Includes a file using the resource system. Use the direct link syntax to your profit here.
20:15 <ivantis> go to http://pace.us.to/admin
20:15 <epsy> [ note the very original network name ]
20:16 <ivantis> see if you can guess the password
20:16 <epsy> zomg title http://pace.us.to/admin
20:16 <teabot> epsy: HTTP Error 401: Authorization Required
20:16 <ivantis> see if you can guess the password is what i said
20:16 <ivantis> but it probably wont load for you
20:16 <epsy> hmm this just sounds like an invitation to run a BF attack
20:16 <ivantis> my hosting will probably be fine, the site is only going to serve people in my town
20:17 <epsy> what's the user name?
20:17 <ivantis> admin
20:17 <ivantis> whats the password?
20:17 <ivantis> password
20:17 <ivantis> how original is that?
20:17 <ivantis> password as the password
20:17 <epsy> quite a bit
20:17 <Ttech> query teabot
20:18 <Ttech> wait wtf
20:18 <ivantis> on my dads old computer, he didnt remember that there was a password on it
20:18 <Ttech> what features with the last seen does teabot / armabot have?
20:18  * Ttech can't figure out the last seen lengh thing that they use
20:18 <ivantis> and when he went to use it, he couldnt remember the password
20:18 <ivantis> the password was password
20:18 <ivantis> hahaha
20:18 <epsy> they are both using the same script currently
20:18 <ivantis> it was funny
20:18 <ivantis> anyway, epsy, you log in to it?
20:18 <epsy> i am logged in
20:18 <ivantis> edit.html
20:19 <ivantis> ZOMG DATS HAX ?
20:19 <ivantis> you is lame
20:19 <epsy> lulz
20:19 <ivantis> i wrote a perl script that lets them edit the thing without touching HTML
20:19 <ivantis> all the technophobe teachers
20:20 <Ttech> @last The_Doctor
20:20 <teabot> Ttech: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
20:20 <epsy> should i have also entered the response hearders? it's timing out
20:20 <Ttech> ^^ that command
20:20 <Ttech> I don't think I have but what plugin is it a part of.
20:20 <Ttech> !botjoin
20:20 <epsy> Ttech, that's for chatlogs
20:20 <ivantis> response hearders??
20:20 <ivantis> huh?
20:20 <epsy> @plugin last
20:20 <teabot> epsy: The "last" command is available in the Misc plugin.
20:20 <Ttech> epsy, mmm custom then would assuem?
20:20 <epsy> @list misc
20:20 <Ttech> @help last
20:20 <teabot> epsy: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
20:20 <teabot> Ttech: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
20:20 <Ttech> oh
20:20 <epsy> that's the default misc plugin, except some minor changes, if i remember correctly
20:21 <ivantis> EEEERRRZZZZZ 	SPPAAAMMM 	8?
20:21 <ivantis> was that you?
20:21 <Ttech> mmm
20:21 <epsy> hrhr
20:21 <Ttech> ivantis, what?
20:21 <ivantis> not you
20:21 <ivantis> epsy
20:21 <Ttech> no
20:21 <Ttech> oh
20:21 <epsy> i think you gotta have to change your passwords
20:21 <Ttech> ska
20:21 <epsy> because it was not me
20:21 <ivantis> http://schools.usd497.org/cjhs/
20:21 <ivantis> who the hell wrote that document?
20:22 <ivantis> they left the page title as "Untitled Document"
20:22 <ivantis> HTML noobs
20:23 <epsy> someone who uses Dreamlife ?
20:23 <epsy> or Gowaver, whatever
20:23 <ivantis> i just use gedit
20:23 <epsy> gvim for me
20:23 <ivantis> and i already made something better then that
20:23 <ivantis> gvim?
20:23 <ivantis> never heard of it
20:23 <Ttech> Nico Marquardt, a 13-year-old from Germany, was reported to have produced a collision estimate of 1 in 450 (100 times greater than NASA's calculation) in April 2008, by factoring in the possibility of Apophis running into one or more of the geosynchronous satellites orbiting Earth during its flyby on April 13, 2029. This estimate was allegedly then confirmed by ESA and NASA[21][22] but in an official statement[23], NASA denied having c
20:23 <Ttech> >:
20:24 <hoop> ivantis: kompozer's not bad
20:24 <Ttech> kompozzer
20:24 <ivantis> kompozer...
20:24 <epsy> kompozomger
20:24 <ivantis> isnt that a music thing?
20:24 <ivantis> it lets you edit music clips i think
20:24 <hoop> @g kompozer
20:24 <teabot> hoop: http://www.kompozer.net/ - KompoZer - Easy web authoring
20:24 <epsy> it's a fork of NVU
20:24 <ivantis> oh
20:25 <Ttech> how many porks of NVU are there?
20:25 <ivantis> eww
20:25 <ivantis> gvim is gross
20:25 <ivantis> i do not like it
20:25 <ivantis> <script type=text/javascript>document.write(LOLOLOL);
20:25 <ivantis> </script>?
20:25 <ivantis> epsy
20:25 <hoop> i use gedit too though
20:25 <Ttech> I hate givm
20:26 <Ttech> orim
20:26 <ivantis> quit being immature
20:26 <ivantis> and it didnt even work
20:26 <epsy> learn to sanitize your sql queries correctly, that's not my fault
20:26 <ivantis> sql?
20:27 <ivantis> i do not use sql
20:27 <Ttech> ivantis, me?
20:27 <Ttech> (
20:27 <epsy> or w/e, the "" just got stripped
20:27  * Ttech is failing to much.
20:27 <ivantis> because sql is for dorks
20:27 <ivantis> …
20:27 <ivantis> yes
20:27 <ivantis> i think it strips "s
20:27 <ivantis> for some reason
20:27 <epsy> it does
20:27 <ivantis> fuck!
20:27 <ivantis> that will be an issue
20:29 <ivantis> i think that should have fixed it...
20:29 <epsy> darn, links does not support http authing
20:30 <ivantis> wtf are you doing?
20:31 <epsy> trying to get a faster connection
20:32 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-173-122-30.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
20:32 <noob13> hi!
20:33 <Durka> \o
20:34 <Durka> Lackadaisical: its in 56 minutes right?
20:34 <Durka> not 4 minutes ago
20:34 <epsy> hrhr
20:34 <Lackadaisical> yes
20:34 <Durka> k g00d
20:35 <Durka> i think we're going to have 5 maybe 6
20:35 <pavelo> do you need players ?
20:35 <ivantis> hi Dorka
20:35 <epsy> hrhr
20:36 <Durka> umm
20:36 <Durka> im sure we'll be fine
20:36 <Durka> we'll have at least 6 for the ladle
20:36 <Durka> most likely 7
20:36 <Durka> and if xfroggy shows up
20:36 <Durka> hes been gone for 11 days
20:36 <Durka> no one knows where
20:36 <Durka> he didnt tell us he was leaving oO
20:37 <epsy> :O
20:38 <pavelo> i was talking about today, not the ladle, but w/e
20:38 <Durka> can someone explain to me the arma tourneys channel
20:38 <Durka> er
20:38 <ivantis> man
20:38 <Durka> we'll play with our crew
20:38 <Durka> maybe lack needs one
20:39 <epsy> Durka, can you read our messages on #armagetron.tourneys ? Oo
20:39 <ivantis> my computer applications teacher is such a HTML noob
20:39 <Durka> no i cant
20:39 <epsy> Oo
20:39 <ivantis> well, not noob
20:39 <Durka> but it shows there're new msgs
20:39 <epsy> try to rejoin perhaps
20:39 <Durka> k
20:39 <ivantis> but he does everything like a slacker
20:39 <ivantis> he told us to do breaks <br>
20:39 <ivantis> lazy
20:39 <ivantis> it should be <br />
20:39 <Durka> haha
20:40 <ivantis> and he doesnt enclose anything with quotes unless it contains a space
20:40 <epsy> it's maybe colloquy which is handling channel redirections badly
20:40 <ivantis> and doesnt put # in front of color codes
20:40 <Durka> ivantis: thats why html sux
20:40 <Durka> xhtml ftw
20:40  * epsy agrees 100%
20:40 <ivantis> i wish the browser was like a C++ compiler
20:40 <epsy> that's what xml is for!
20:40 <ivantis> it would yell at you if you did anything wrong
20:40 <ivantis> see?
20:40 <epsy> you made a little typo? FAIL!
20:41 <ivantis> that would be so nice
20:41 <epsy> ivantis, that's what xml, and then it's application, xhtml were designed to be
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20:41 <ivantis> are there any odd versions of linux servers that dont have grep?
20:42 <epsy> install it?
20:42 <ivantis> grep and cat are common things to all linux, right?
20:42 <ivantis> no, i mean...
20:42 <epsy> http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/
20:42 <epsy> to GNU/Linux, yes
20:42 <ivantis> i will be transferring this site im making to a Linux server
20:42 <ivantis> owned by my school
20:42 <ivantis> and some of the scripts need grep
20:42 <epsy> now nothing prevents me from giving you a linux distrib with grep stripped
20:42 <ivantis> is perl common too?
20:43 <epsy> no
20:43 <epsy> but anyways, you can install it
20:43 <ivantis> no
20:43 <ivantis> i am not admin to my schools server
20:43 <ivantis> …
20:43 <epsy> ivantis, that resource repo @ xclan is versionned, and bzr wasn't installed
20:43 <ivantis> i just had a great idea
20:43 <epsy> it did not take much to install it on my account
20:44 <ivantis> ill bet my schools server has a better connection than any of luke-jr's
20:44 -!- Liza [n=Liza@p5B25EA8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
20:44 <ivantis> i wonder if i could bribe someone to let me administrate a small part of it...
20:44 <ivantis> and then install an arma server and dominate in non-lag!
20:44 <Durka> flashyy!
20:44 <ivantis> luke would be jealous
20:44 <ivantis> ha
20:45 <epsy> Liza, ping! >.>
20:46 <ivantis> woah!
20:46 <ivantis> i had an even better idea!
20:46 <ivantis> to get peoples passwords to stuff
20:47 <ivantis> you know how people use the same password for most everything?
20:47 <Liza> hi Durka ^^
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20:47 <ivantis> …
20:47 <epsy> like..me, and everyone?
20:47 <ivantis> nevermind that wouldnt work
20:47 <ivantis> but the idea was
20:47 <epsy> AAGID!
20:47 <ivantis> make a script that scrambles theyre password
20:48 <ivantis> and then one to unscramble it
20:48 <ivantis> so it looks encrypted
20:48 <epsy> meh
20:48 <epsy> there's better stuff
20:48 <epsy> i'd like to use RSA authentication over http tbh
20:48 <ivantis> and they email the "encrypted" one to you, "unencrypt" it, and bang! you got it
20:48 <epsy> you know
20:48 <ivantis> that would be so mean though
20:49 <epsy> the best security with passwords
20:49 <pippijn> ivantis: that's phishing
20:49 <epsy> is to make them impossible to un-scramble
20:49 <ivantis> …
20:49 <ivantis> duh
20:49 <ivantis> thats what i used on the site you were just on
20:50 <ivantis> http://webinfo.inch.com/server/apache/htpasswd.html
20:50 <ivantis> that
20:50 <epsy> yes..i know that
20:50 <epsy> that's the same thing that's in place here <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/>
20:51 <ivantis> what program does it use to do that?
20:51 <ivantis> This page is designed to spare you from having to generate your passwords form a Telnet session.
20:51 <epsy> don't try guessing the username/password, i don't even remember them myself
20:51 <ivantis> what program could you run
20:51 <epsy> ?
20:52 <epsy> to get passwords?
20:52 <ivantis> yes
20:52 <epsy> pshhh
20:52 <ivantis> to generate encryptions
20:52 <ivantis> bash: pshhh: command not found
20:52 <epsy> to make .htpasswd files i use..the htpasswd utility
20:52 <ivantis> oh
20:52 <pippijn> epsy: uuuh, nifty ;-D
20:56 <Durka> hey on a side note
20:56 <Durka> does anyone get prompted with a password
20:56 <Durka> when lucifer has posted in a topic
20:56 <Lackadaisical> yeah i do
20:56 <epsy> heh
20:56 <Durka> the image in his sig is from his site
20:56 <Durka> davefancella.com
20:56 <Durka> and thats pw protected :\
20:56 <epsy> i just get a timeout
20:57 <Lackadaisical> i sent him a pm
20:57 <epsy> Lucifer, ping, your siggy is fuxt!
20:57 <Lackadaisical> maybe just ping him in here
20:58 <epsy> zomg fetch http://www.davefancella.com/ilovepeopleeating.png
20:58 <teabot> epsy: timed out
20:58 <Durka> zomg
20:58 <Durka> is that the trigger?
20:58 <Durka> rofl
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20:59 <epsy> @, zomg, urmum
20:59 <epsy> and also # on other channels
20:59 <pippijn> epsy: it times out
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20:59 <epsy> pippijn, it indeed does time out
21:00 <ivantis> what happened to davefancella.com anyway?
21:00 <epsy> it's probably turned off
21:00 <Durka> yea idk
21:00 <ivantis> account expired
21:00 <ivantis> idk
21:00 <epsy> Durka, opera?
21:00 <Durka> safari
21:01 <Durka> Lackadaisical: see u in 15
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21:01 <ivantis> google still has it cached
21:01 <ivantis> http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:vN11cRBZALTYQM:http://www.davefancella.com/ilovepeopleeating.png
21:03 <ivantis> OMG!
21:03 <ivantis> i found the best site evah!
21:03 <ivantis> http://ava.us
21:04 <ivantis> what a jip!
21:04 <ivantis> http://www.co.cc/
21:05 <ivantis> $45 a year for a cruddy .co.cc domain?
21:05 <ivantis> thats more than i pay for a .net!
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21:44 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r25 implemented Polyline renderer...
21:51 <Corn> .tea
21:51 <tronner> Corn: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (11/32): 40 Watt Lamp, =>FcT<=epsy (epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member), Baby <3 Jenny, CT-Dazer, Jênny_Chan (jenny@ct), Minefield, Peter Fox 1.1, R3P . Corn (Corn1@forums), SteeleR, [nc] jc.bot, ¦×¦ Liza (Liza@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/member)
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21:53 <pavelo> hey guys, what's the deal with "," as the decimal separator in aa maps? is that legal?
21:56 <Lackadaisical> k-yo score settings are wrong..
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22:04 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical: arf
22:04 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical: these are Durka's for sure
22:04 <K-Yo> Lackadaisical: coming
22:08 <K-Yo> emmy_arma: wtf are you?
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23:17 <epsy> good night
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23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8569 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): epsy: allow an authority to claim one to be from another authority, as long as the two authorities share the same base domain
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23:24 <luke-jr> wtf?
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23:26 <Durka> gm's Flex, Lackadaisical, sithy, Monkey_arma, luke-jr
23:26 <Lackadaisical> gms
23:26 <Flex> gz
23:26 <Flex> we should of won that!
23:26 <Durka> we completely tanked it the first 2 matches
23:26 <Durka> idk what was going on
23:26 <Monkey_arma> ye gms
23:26 <Flex> we started messing around on the 3rd match
23:26 <Monkey_arma> you need to get your players to come i guess
23:27 <Durka> we tried to torpedo
23:27 <Durka> goody n sage bailed
23:27 <Monkey_arma> the issue with our team and yours is we both dont have many players
23:27 <Lackadaisical> without hole points :O
23:27 <Durka> well
23:27 <Durka> haha
23:27 <Durka> well the other issue is that yes our players didnt come
23:27 <Durka> so in turn
23:27 <Durka> we had to shuffle around our players to other positions
23:28 <luke-jr> …
23:28 <Durka> haha luke-jr
23:28 <Durka> but yea Monkey_arma that was fun the center battles
23:28 <luke-jr> It wasn't me…
23:28 <Durka> mustve been an imposter
23:28 <Monkey_arma> centre is hard work
23:28 <Durka> yea
23:28 <Durka> u were too predictable
23:28 <Durka> u blocked the same side first every time
23:29 <Monkey_arma> but our team needed to split early
23:29 <Durka> it was funny tho
23:29 <Monkey_arma> we arent an expert team, we need to keep it simple
23:29 <Durka> i had a few 4.8 4.9 and 4.7 grinds lol
23:29 <luke-jr> why is svn blame so slow?
23:29 <Durka> oO
23:29 <Durka> btw Lackadaisical
23:29 <Durka> the WW server doesnt have score_hole
23:30 <Durka> did anyone take screenshots?
23:30 <Lackadaisical> i didnt
23:30 <Flex> i did
23:30 <Durka> wanna send me them?
23:30 <Flex> sure
23:30 <Lackadaisical> are you goint to put them somewheree?
23:30 <Flex> you want them?
23:30 <Durka> well
23:30 <Lackadaisical> id like to see them as well
23:30 <Durka> i might put them up on our public page
23:30 <Durka> but im thinking of putting them on our private page
23:31 <Durka> or at least link to them
23:31 <Durka> i just setup like a private wiki for us so we'll see how that goes
23:31 <luke-jr> Durka: come to #anime and play !loli
23:32 <Durka> oO
23:34 <Durka> receiving
23:34 <luke-jr> sending
23:34 <Durka> no ur not
23:34 <Flex> hi luke-jr
23:34 <luke-jr> Flex: u wanna play !loli too?
23:34 <Flex> na
23:34 <Flex> how's it going
23:34 <luke-jr> Flex: Durka just got 17
23:35 <Durka> luke-jr: how many do u has?
23:35 <luke-jr> Durka: 21
23:35 <Durka> nowai
23:35 <Durka> can u lose lolis?
23:35 <Flex> there was no luke-jr there, Durka is bs'ing you
23:35 <luke-jr> my second account has 34
23:35 <luke-jr> Durka: yeah
23:35 <luke-jr> Durka: in battles
23:35 <Durka> 2nd account
23:35 <Durka> rofl
23:35 <luke-jr> ljrbot has 49 lolis
23:35 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
23:35 <Flex> Lackadaisical
23:35 <Durka> haha
23:35 <luke-jr> ljrbot: liar
23:35 <Flex> http://www.zshare.net/download/195995831d08fa8d/
23:35 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "liar" is not a valid command.
23:35 <Flex> Durka, that might be faster
23:35 <luke-jr> 2nd place is currently held by ljrbot :o
23:36 <Lackadaisical> ty
23:36 <Durka> whos 1st
23:36 <luke-jr> drantin is in 1st, but he cheated with a bug a few days ago
23:36 <Flex> anyway, gg's.. we should of won that.. i hate playing well and losing lol
23:36 <Durka> how much doe he has
23:36 <luke-jr> 56
23:36 <luke-jr> he cheated by attacking me twice in one day ☹
23:37 <Durka> sweet thnx flex
23:37 <luke-jr> nanobot fixed that bug tho
23:38 <luke-jr> freeciv anyone?
23:39 <Durka> no
23:39 <Durka> Lackadaisical: http://tr.1c3d.net/screenshots
23:39 <luke-jr> Durka: nm, I wasn't talking to you, you're not invited
23:39 <Lackadaisical> i think having two matches on ct at the same time is a bad idea
23:39 <Durka> :(
23:39 <Flex> hey we're not called LT!
23:39 <Lackadaisical> the tag actually looks kinda neat in flex' font
23:40 <Flex> we need a better one
23:40 <Flex> n stands for noobs :(
23:40 <Flex> well we are, but still
23:40 <Lackadaisical> no!
23:40 <Flex> it looks worse on your font Lackadaisical? omg!
23:41 <Lackadaisical> i mean it looks like an n in a box, in mine its just an n between two square brackets
23:41 <Lackadaisical> crazy
23:41 <Lackadaisical> or maybe not
23:41 <Durka> hey flex i have a question
23:41 <Flex> god, garisimo was quite annoying
23:41 <Durka> http://tr.1c3d.net/screenshots/TR-vs-LT-09-28-2008/match_1.png
23:41 <Flex> yeah
23:41 <Lackadaisical> well he did have a 250 ping
23:41 <Durka> why are there starts next to 2 ppl
23:41 <Lackadaisical> talking
23:42 <Flex> yeah
23:42 <Flex> or chatbot enabled
23:42 <Flex> you didn't know that?
23:42 <Durka> o
23:42 <Durka> no
23:42 <Durka> i dont use 0.3
23:42 <Flex> well, you suck!
23:42 <Lackadaisical> anyone notice how some people always have a star between rounds but never say anything? i always wonder what they might be doing
23:42 <Flex> Lackadaisical, can i see a screenshot of your game :)
23:43 <Lackadaisical> it's just the standard font
23:43 <Flex> tabbed out or pressing excape or something
23:43 <Flex> i mostly want to see if you're using my interface and how it looks :p
23:44 <Flex> lol
23:44 <Lackadaisical> hah ok ill make one quick
23:44 <Flex> thanks
23:44  * luke-jr ponders releasing Armagetron Advanced
23:44  * Flex has not touched v0.2.8 since he started playing
23:45 <luke-jr> and no developers have touched v0.3 since then either, I bet ;p
23:45 <Flex> :-(
23:45 <Flex> i use z-man's 2005 v0.3
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23:46 <luke-jr> 0.3.0?
23:46 <Flex> yes
23:46 <luke-jr> ancient
23:46 <Flex> aritifact
23:46 <luke-jr> I think it might even have known security holes
23:46 <Flex> :o
23:46 <Flex> what kind
23:46  * luke-jr h4x0rs Flex
23:47 <luke-jr> Flex: I don't remember, it's been a while… 3 years
23:47 <luke-jr> :þ
23:47 <Durka> ok
23:48 <Lackadaisical> http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot21sx7.png
23:48 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r26 AAWall and AASpawn loaders...
23:48  * luke-jr burps at Durka
23:48 <Lackadaisical> nvm thats an old one
23:48 <Flex> ahh, very old!
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23:49 <Flex> my v2 cockpit :p
23:49 <sithy> nice cockipit
23:49 <Durka> Lackadaisical: i 100% agree with u
23:49 <Flex> actually, i don't even have a v1 cockpit.. i skipped it
23:49 <Durka> u cant have 2 big matches on the same server
23:49 <Durka> look at this
23:49 <Durka> http://tr.1c3d.net/screenshots/TR-vs-LT-09-28-2008/match_3.png
23:49 <Durka> look at the pings
23:49 <Durka> gari's is 3rd worse for a change
23:50 <Flex> does it affect your game?
23:50 <Durka> obviously
23:50 <Lackadaisical> http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot27jq8.png
23:50 <Flex> i'm sorry to hear that..
23:50 <Durka> sarcasm?
23:50 <Flex> you americans must really own, because i can't handle having a 300ping..
23:50 <Durka> o_O
23:50 <Flex> unless i only play on american servers
23:51 <Durka> can we fix this issue for the ladle
23:51 <Durka> since the semis
23:51 <Durka> are on ct 1 and ct 2
23:51 <Flex> Lackadaisical, use font_size in console and reduce the size :p
23:51 <Durka> ...
23:51 <Lackadaisical> yeah i might do that.. but i kinda like the clunkyness
23:51 <Flex> durka, i think they're on different servers
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23:52 <Lackadaisical> ct has two servers?
23:52 <Durka> ill check Flex
23:52 <Flex> yes, plantpeanet or something
23:52 <Flex> and their crazy wild one
23:52 <Flex> nice walls though, Lackadaisical
23:52 <Durka> ok ur right
23:53 <Durka> CT 2 is on seperate server
23:53 <Flex> happy now? :p
23:53 <Durka> however
23:53 <Durka> CT 1 is on same server as
23:53 <Durka> CT open sumo
23:53 <Flex> lol
23:53 <Durka> ct wf lounge
23:53 <hoax> who won? was subz any good? lol..
23:53 <Durka> chicko styball
23:53 <Durka> thats it
23:53 <Lackadaisical> ah thanks for the tip flex, i always felt the text took too much space
23:53 <Durka> subz was alright i think
23:53 <Flex> more than alright
23:53 <Lackadaisical> subz owned my def a couple of times
23:54 <hoax> gd gd :P
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23:54 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r890 allow an authority to claim one to be from another authority...
23:54 <akira_arma> .tea
23:54 <tronner> akira_arma: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
23:54 <Lackadaisical> but i gtg.. gnight
23:54 <Flex> gn
23:54 <hoax> wow gari actually played
23:54 <hoax> nn
23:54 <Flex> annoying fella
23:55 <hoax> garis safe
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23:55 <Flex> spam king
23:55 <hoax> did ya read the rulez!?
23:55 <hoax> :D
23:55 <Durka> <armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r890 allow an authority to claim one to be from another authority...> huh?
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23:58 <luke-jr> Durka: it's lameness!
23:58 <luke-jr> hopefully configurable lameness
23:58 <luke-jr> but as epsy ran from IRC before committing it, probably not1
23:59 <luke-jr> !
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23:59 <Durka> oO
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00:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Merged compile fixes from 0.2.8 branch:
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00:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r7367 | z-man | 2007-11-09 11:07:24 -0600 (Fri, 09 Nov 2007) | 2 lines
00:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed pedantic new warnings in GCC 4.1.3.
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00:11 <armabot> armagetronad: The yearly game of eliminating all warnings a new version of GCC brings,
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00:13 <Monkey_arma> hi Thund3r
00:14 <Thund3r> hey monk
00:14 <Thund3r> whats up?
00:15 <Thund3r> yo hoax
00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8572 /armagetronad/branches/ (18 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging more compile fixes from 0.2.8 branch:
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00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: r7702 | z-man | 2008-01-29 14:55:45 -0600 (Tue, 29 Jan 2008) | 2 lines
00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: Aplied yet another GCC 4.3 patch, and this time, put all of the includes
00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: we keep
00:20 <armabot> armagetronad:  forgetting into defs.h. They should be removed at a later time again.
00:21 <hoax> Thund3r o/
00:30 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8573 /armagetronad/branches/ a GCC 4.3 fix that didnt apply to 0.2.8 head
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01:06 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿22788 h_nd3r th_nd3r .dbdth_nd3r
01:06 <Corn> ah
01:06 <Thund3r> because I dont play as thund3r
01:07 <Thund3r> I use the greek m
01:07 <Corn> and the _ is for any character
01:07 <Thund3r> which is that fancy u
01:07 <Corn> its called mew
01:07 <Corn> or w/e
01:07 <Thund3r> mhm
01:07 <Thund3r> :p
01:07 <Corn> pernounced
01:07 <Thund3r> weather 35691
01:07 <Corn> i knew you were going to do that
01:08 <Thund3r> .weather 35691
01:08 <Corn> weather :P
01:08 <Corn> do #weather 35691
01:08 <Thund3r> hrm
01:08 <Thund3r> oxD
01:08 <Thund3r> #weather 35691
01:08 <armabot> Thund3r: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:08 <Corn> :/
01:08 <Thund3r> :o
01:08 <Thund3r> lol
01:08 <Thund3r> I dont think thats a real area code
01:08 <Corn> yeah
01:09 <Corn> #weather Phoenix, Arizona
01:09 <armabot> Corn: The current temperature in 36th St and Camelback, Phoenix, Arizona is 99.0°F (4:09 PM MST on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling).
01:09 <Corn> hot...
01:09 <Thund3r> no joke xD
01:09 <Corn> and think about it
01:09 <Corn> its 99 degrees and its fall
01:09 <Thund3r> #weather Birmingham, alabama
01:10 <armabot> Thund3r: The current temperature in Birmingham, Alabama is 82.4°F (5:53 PM CDT on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
01:10 <Corn> humidity ; /
01:10 <Corn> you live in alabama?
01:10 <Thund3r> I do
01:10 <Corn> i dont live in arizona :P
01:10 <Corn> i bet you thought i did
01:10 <Thund3r> I know ; )
01:11 <Thund3r> nah
01:11 <Corn> fine.
01:11 <Thund3r> you picked an obvious city
01:11 <Thund3r> everyone knows where pheonix is
01:11 <Thund3r> but if I said
01:11 <Corn> #weather platsburg, vermont
01:11 <armabot> Corn: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:11 <Thund3r> #weather gulfport, Mississippu
01:11 <armabot> Thund3r: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:11 <Thund3r> #weather Gulf Port, Mississippi
01:11 <armabot> Thund3r: The current temperature in Sanford, North Carolina is 73.4°F (6:57 PM EDT on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
01:11 <Corn> lol thats such in the middle of no where armabot doesnt know where it is
01:12 <Thund3r> there ya go D
01:12 <Corn> #weather Burlington, Vermont
01:12 <Thund3r> #weather pensacola, Florida
01:12 <armabot> Corn: The current temperature in Winooski, Vermont is 64.9°F (7:12 PM EDT on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
01:12 <armabot> Thund3r: The current temperature in Town Hall Area, Gulf Breeze, Florida is 81.1°F (6:10 PM CDT on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
01:12 <Corn> .tea
01:12 <Thund3r> I bet I can name a smaller town off the top of my head than you can! : D
01:12 <tronner> Corn: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (6/32): radian, [= MaZ =],   Durka (DDMJ@forums), ¦×¦ $ubzero, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@forums), ¦×¦ viper
01:13 <Corn> i bet you can
01:13 <Thund3r> #weather Opp, alabama
01:13 <armabot> Thund3r: The current temperature in 299/84 Bypass - Hub Brown Rd, Opp, Alabama is 79.5°F (6:13 PM CDT on September 28, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).
01:13 <Thund3r> lol
01:13 <Thund3r> population: 42
01:13 <Thund3r> xP
01:13 <Corn> im going to play fort
01:13 <Corn> see ya
01:13 <Thund3r> cya
01:15 <Corn> armabot lastseen corn
01:15 <armabot> Corn: Corn seems to be on Fortress Café - CT's clone right now.
01:15 <Corn> :0
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01:47 <Corn> #armaservers
01:47 <armabot> Corn: This data is 34 seconds old; Fortress Café - CT's clone (17/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Charlie~Lounge (10/8), The YELLOW Submarine (10/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (7/12), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Alpha~ (7/6), Wild West  =Tournament Server= ~Bravo~ (7/8), (2 more messages)
01:47 <Corn> more
01:47 <Corn> #more
01:47 <armabot> Corn: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (6/14), Dark Waters Clan Server ~DW~ Dogfight By Brok3n (4/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (3/10), The -=VcL.Clan Server! (3/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (3/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (2/16), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY High Speed) <<< (2/12), |FA| BLACK TAR (1/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (1 more message)
01:48 <Corn> #more
01:48 <armabot> Corn: ~Multi~Mode~ (1/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1/12), |Forgotten Warriors~ Box3rs FUNHOUSE (1/16)
01:51  * Corn hugs armabot
01:57  * Lucifer is fucking hungry, but needs to call his mom back
02:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: who is Hungry?
02:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i bet he did not hear you
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03:31 <Thund3r> hey zman, if you read this, I was wondering if it was possible to get a patch for Arma 2.8 to add the mini map, and if you cant help, then maybe tell me someone I should ask
03:31 <Thund3r> z-man-work *
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03:52 <Thund3r> hi
03:52 <Thund3r> armabot hi
03:52 <Thund3r> armabot hello
03:52 <armabot> Hello Thund3r :) Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
03:52 <Thund3r> D
03:53 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen Th_nd3r
03:53 <armabot> Thund3r: Thµnd3r has last been seen on Fortress Café - CT's clone 2 hours 17 minutes ago.
03:53 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen tax
03:53 <armabot> Thund3r: stax has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 10 hours 46 minutes ago.
03:54 <Thund3r> amabot lastseen light
03:54 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen light
03:54 <armabot> Thund3r: ~§K¦Lightniñg has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 16 minutes ago.
03:54 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen -=}ID< Light
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03:55 <Thund3r> hi
03:55 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen arilou
03:55 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
03:55 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen -=}ID<
03:55 <armabot> Thund3r: -=}ID< IZZI seems to be on  Wild West  =Sumo= right now.
03:57 <Thund3r> armabot aka bombinator
03:57 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿24074 bombinator
03:58 <Thund3r> armabot lastseen bombinator
03:58 <armabot> Thund3r: timed out
03:58 <Thund3r> armabot aka everest
03:58 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿25384 everest
03:59 <Thund3r> armabot aka th_nd3r
03:59 <armabot> Thund3r: ¿22788 h_nd3r th_nd3r .dbdth_nd3r
03:59 <Thund3r> .night
03:59 <tronner> Good night Thund3r!
04:00 <Thund3r> armabot night
04:00 <armabot> Good night Thund3r!
04:00 <Thund3r> everyone else night...lol
04:00 <Thund3r> : )
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04:16 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: not only did I not hear luke-jr, I didn't see what he said either
04:16 <Lucifer> that just makes me happy at this particular moment of my life :)
04:19 <ct|kyle> :)
04:24 <Lucifer> yay!  SpaceX finally made it to orbit!
04:24 <Lucifer> I guess the fourth time's the charm
04:24 <Lucifer> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us:u/4-1-0&fp=48e022a4c1856f27&ei=lTrgSOTSMaT2ygSAvMyTAQ&url=http%3A//www.mercurynews.com/ci_10584754&cid=1251224447&npp=POP&sig2=8AhxPRUkfUBd0PcToh8cMQ&usg=AFQjCNF_zfD6AU1rwxDAYvB485KkSxiGpg
04:24 <Lucifer> er
04:24 <Lucifer> http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10584754  <------ better link, it's shorter
04:26 <Lucifer> that's the best news I've had all day :)
04:26  * Lucifer is excited about SpaceX now
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04:28 <Ttech> #corn
04:28 <Corn> #list
04:28 <armabot> CORN!
04:28 <armabot> Corn: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
04:28 <Corn> yes?
04:29 <Corn> #babelfish c'est la vie
04:29 <Corn> but we will live
04:29 <Corn> amirite
04:29 <Corn> cmon armabot
04:31 <Corn> #2^11
04:32 <Corn> #time
04:32 <armabot> Corn: 04:32 AM, September 29, 2008
04:32 <Corn> #dict mar
04:32 <armabot> Corn: wn, gaz-place, gcide, vera, and moby-thes responded: vera: MAR Microprogram Address Register (IC); gcide: Mar \Mar\, n. A small lake. See {Mere}. [Prov. Eng.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Mar \Mar\, n. A mark or blemish made by bruising, scratching, or the like; a disfigurement. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Maa \Maa\, n. [See {New} a gull.] (Zool.) The common European gull ({Larus (7 more messages)
04:33 <Corn> #dict uxorious
04:33 <armabot> Corn: wn and gcide responded: wn: uxorious adj : foolishly fond of or submissive to your wife; gcide: Uxorious \Ux*o"ri*ous\, a. [L. uxorius, fr. uxor a wife.] Excessively fond of, or submissive to, a wife; being a dependent husband. "Uxorious magistrates." --Milton. [1913 Webster] How wouldst thou insult, When I must live uxorious to thy will In perfect thraldom! --Milton. [1913 Webster] (1 more message)
04:33 <Corn> ;p
04:33 <Corn> thats my favorite word
04:34 <Corn> uxorious
04:38 <Corn> #dict epinephrine
04:38 <armabot> Corn: wn: epinephrine n : a catecholamine secreted by the adrenal medulla in response to stress (trade name Adrenalin); stimulates autonomic nerve action [syn: {epinephrin}, {adrenaline}, {Adrenalin}]
04:38 <Corn> #dict iota
04:38 <armabot> Corn: gazetteer, foldoc, gcide, wn, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: foldoc: Iota <language, specification> A specification language. ["The Iota Programming System", R. Nakajima er al, Springer 1983]. (1994-12-08); gazetteer: Iota, LA (town, FIPS 37410) Location: 30.32650 N, 92.49480 W Population (1990): 1256 (527 housing units) Area: 3.3 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip (5 more messages)
04:39 <Corn> #dict whir
04:39 <armabot> Corn: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Whir \Whir\, n. A buzzing or whizzing sound produced by rapid or whirling motion; as, the whir of a partridge; the whir of a spinning wheel. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Whir \Whir\, v. t. [See {Whir} to whiz.] To hurry a long with a whizzing sound. [R.] [1913 Webster] This world to me is like a lasting storm, Whirring me from my friends. --Shak. (3 more messages)
04:40 <Corn> #dict rhizomes
04:40 <armabot> Corn: No definition for "rhizomes" could be found.
04:40 <Corn> #dict rhizome
04:40 <armabot> Corn: wn and gcide responded: wn: rhizome n : a horizontal plant stem with shoots above and roots below serving as a reproductive structure [syn: {rootstock}, {rootstalk}]; gcide: Rhizome \Rhi*zome"\, n. [Gr. ??? the mass of roots (of a tree), a stem, race, fr. ??? to make to root, pass., to take root, fr. ??? a root: cf. F. rhizome.] (Bot.) A rootstock, such as one of an iris. See (1 more message)
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08:10 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r27 changed PolylineBase api: inherit from std::list ...
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08:16 <Durka> Lucifer: u here? :)
08:16 <Durka> or luke-jr ftw
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08:17 <Durka> test
08:17 <Durka> weird
08:22 <epsy> lol
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08:24 <Durka> epsy: did u do the TWG?
08:24 <Durka> i wanna do another one!
08:24 <epsy> TWG?
08:24 <epsy> i guess not..
08:24 <Durka> the werewolf game
08:25 <epsy> ah, no i didn't
08:25 <epsy> another reason to delay .2.8.3 I see :P
08:26 <Durka> xD
08:31 <hoop> mornin
08:32 <epsy> mornin hoop
08:38 <Durka> gnight
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08:42 <epsy> bbl
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13:09 <pippijn> z-man-work: hi
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14:48 <hoop> z-man-work || Lucifer || luke-jr :) does arma maps parser support the comma as float separator?
14:49 <z-man-work> probably not.
14:50 <eddiefantastic> hoop: zones v2 has some support for it iirc
14:51 <hoop> z-man-work: would it be possible that it's still loaded without errors but values gets truncated?
14:52 <pavelo> here's an excerpt from a voodoo's map:
14:52 <pavelo>         <Spawn x="87,365440327094" y="87,3654403270941"  xdir="1" ydir="1"/>
14:53 <hoop> eddiefantastic: good to know, I'll chack that :)
14:53 <hoop> *check
14:54 <eddiefantastic> hoop: <Rotation rotationSpeed="-0.35;-0.35"/>
14:55 <eddiefantastic> seperated by a semi colon it seems
14:55 <hoop> oh, I didn't mean that.
14:55 <eddiefantastic> ok
14:55 <hoop> probably "float separator" is badly spelt
14:55 <pippijn> z-man-work: how is 0.2.8 coming along?
14:55 <eddiefantastic> pavelo: whcih map is that? I'm sure it's an error
14:55 <pippijn> z-man-work: and its stdlibisation
14:56 <pippijn> z-man-work: or rather armagetron's stdlibisation
14:56 <pavelo> voodoo/mayhem/chico_octacave-0.0.3.aamap.xml and it's playable
14:57 <z-man-work> 0.2.8 isn't going to get any stdlibisation.
14:57 <pippijn> okay
14:57 <z-man-work> And it's sort of on hold because epsy KEEPS MAKING CHANGES
14:57 <z-man-work> and I can't be bothered to check them
14:57 <pippijn> :-|
14:58 <pippijn> how can I help?
14:58 <pavelo> stop epsy from making changes ?
14:58 <pippijn> hm
14:59 <pippijn> I wanted to help back in january, when I came here
14:59 <pippijn> I was told: wait a few months, until 0.2.8 is frozen
14:59 <pippijn> I waited a few months
14:59 <pippijn> it's almost octobre
15:00 <pippijn> october
15:00 <pavelo> isn't 028 frozen for a long time already ?
15:00 <pippijn> pavelo: really?
15:00 <pavelo> dunno
15:00 <pippijn> pavelo: where is current development happening, then?
15:01 <pavelo> 0.3, or at least, that's where it should be happening
15:01 <pippijn> should be..
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15:04 <hoop> hi K-Yo
15:07 <pippijn> z-man-work: what's happening?
15:12 <z-man-work> Nothing much, really. I admit I'm busy with another side project again (another dedicated server for a treasured game), so I can't really admin all that much.
15:13 <pippijn> z-man-work: so armagetron is basically on hold?
15:13 <pippijn> z-man-work: why does it depend on you admining it?
15:13 <z-man-work> It doesn't depend on me.
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15:13 <pippijn> ah
15:13 <pippijn> but nobody else is doing it?
15:14 <z-man-work> Looks like it.
15:14 <pippijn> hm
15:14 <z-man-work> Everyone likes to code stuff, but not testing and fixing bugs.
15:14 <pippijn> right
15:15 <pippijn> are there open bugs?
15:15 <pippijn> I believe someone talked about threading bugs
15:16 <z-man-work> Just compilation trouble with the threading library, I think.
15:16 <z-man-work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad
15:17 <pippijn> #273255 the sounds suck  milestone 0.3.2
15:17 <pippijn> nice bug description
15:18 <hoop> that's more a note than a bugreport
15:19 <pippijn> #272398 pthreads not working/not used  milestone
15:19 <pippijn> hm
15:22 <z-man-work> Oh yeah, great.
15:22 <z-man-work> Just discovered that one, too.
15:22 <z-man-work> First, adding the support was not discussed
15:22 <z-man-work> then, the implementation is buggy.
15:22 <pippijn> hm
15:22 <pippijn> was armagetron not threaded before the support?
15:23 <z-man-work> It was, using ZThread.
15:23 <pippijn> oh?
15:23 <z-man-work> Well, just for the authentication bits.
15:24 <pippijn> hmm
15:24 <pippijn> and it was useful in the authentication bits?
15:24 <z-man-work> Game physics and stuff are in one single thread, but authentication needs to run in the background.
15:24 <pippijn> I see
15:24 <pippijn> good
15:24 <z-man-work> Yes, they call http fetch functions.
15:24 <pippijn> how are pthreads done on windows?
15:25 <z-man-work> NOT AT ALL. I guess.
15:25 <pavelo> there is a pthreads port to windoze iirc
15:26 <z-man-work> Yeah, but ZThread has already been integrated. I guess nothing was broken there.
15:27 <pippijn> pavelo: yes, there is.. but it's a layer on top of windows threads
15:27 <pavelo> well... what else could it be ?
15:27 <pippijn> hm
15:27 <pippijn> boost::thread is nice
15:27 <pippijn> but I suppose armagetron doesn't want to depend on boost...
15:28 <pavelo> what does it do?
15:28 <pippijn> pavelo: it is an object oriented C++ wrapper around the threads used on a certain platform
15:29 <pavelo> yea, i gathered that much... but what does it do better that say ZThread
15:30 <pavelo> (note that i have never seen ZThread)
15:31 <pippijn> pavelo: me neither
15:31 <pippijn> but boost::thread is still nice
15:31 <pavelo> :)
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15:46 <K-Yo> hi hoop
15:46 <K-Yo> and everyone else
15:46 <hoop> :P
15:53 <ct|kyle> i hoop (i found a bug), number 1 does not work when you try to type a radius for a zone (not the one in num pad) the other one
15:53 <ct|kyle> oi*
15:56 <hoop> ct|kyle: d'oh! I thought I've fixed that, gotta check ;) thanks
15:57 <ct|kyle> also delete does not work :P
15:58 <hoop> ct|kyle: what you mean?
15:59 <K-Yo> s1 come to ladle fort plz
15:59 <K-Yo> .si ladle
15:59 <tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (1/26): cT¤K-Yo
15:59 <ct|kyle> delete key has no function
15:59 <hoop> neither "create" works atm
15:59 <hoop> so no need to delete ;)
16:00 <K-Yo> ct|kyle: hoop? I need to try these cmds
16:00 <hoop> meh, you can't even select any object in fact
16:00 <ct|kyle> ... the key that is like backspace only goes foward in text.
16:00 <tronner> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
16:00 <hoop> lol
16:00 <ct|kyle> :P
16:00 <K-Yo> .help ..
16:01 <hoop> oh, you mean when you delete in text fields!
16:01 <ct|kyle> .help ...
16:01 <ct|kyle> hoop:  yes
16:01 <hoop> k
16:01 <K-Yo> .action thinks that hoop or ct|kyle should come to ladle 2
16:01  * tronner thinks that hoop or ct|kyle should come to ladle 2
16:02  * hoop thinks should play less and work more
16:02 <hoop> wassup K-Yo
16:03 <K-Yo> I changed some settings
16:03 <K-Yo> and need to see if mods can start_new_match
16:03 <hoop> K-Yo: coming
16:03 <K-Yo> or team_name_1
16:05 <hoop> lol crap!
16:06 <K-Yo> -.-
16:06 <K-Yo> NEVER go under 21
16:06 <hoop> arma bug!
16:06 <hoop> zomgzorz gotta fix dat zman
16:06 <hoop> K-Yo: cant u send commands?
16:07  * hoop is a douche
16:07 <K-Yo> hoop: no, I can only restart in that case :P
16:07 <K-Yo> I'll remove this command and let 180
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16:09 <K-Yo> .cfg2 ra
16:09 <tronner> K-Yo: BALLS_INTERACT: balls_interact_help || BRAKE_GAUGE_LOCX: Horizontal position of the brake meter || BRAKE_GAUGE_LOCY: Vertical position of the brake meter || BRAKE_GAUGE_SIZE: Size of the brake meter || BUG_TRANSPARENCY: Unsupported: make all rim walls semi-transparent by rendering them without occlusion tests || BUG_TRANSPARENCY_DEMAND: Unsupported: use transparency instead of lowering walls || (25 more messages)
16:13 <K-Yo> #later tell epsy: spam_maxlen can be lowered by 21? so we don't get fucked like noobs again :P
16:13 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
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17:31 <K-Yo> .cfg2 authority_lev
17:31 <tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
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18:29 <K-Yo> epsy: une autre idée: une commande pour afficher la liste des USER_LEVELS définis
18:29 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r28 added AATeam/map-0.2.8_beta3.dtd...
18:29 <epsy> il y a ADMINS
18:29 <epsy> mais c buggé
18:29 <epsy> ou alors c'est pas beau
18:29 <epsy> souviens pus
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18:30 <epsy> et c'est surout pas fini :x
18:30 <epsy> si t'as une meilleure idée pour l'agencement dit moi
18:30 <K-Yo> hum
18:30 <K-Yo> au moins des barres de séparation
18:31 <epsy> on a pas ça sur le client
18:31 <K-Yo> ?
18:31 <K-Yo> genre xxx@xxx | yyy@yyyy | ...
18:31 <epsy> ah
18:31 <K-Yo> et le barres d'une autre couleur
18:31 <epsy> oui, et apres?
18:31 <K-Yo> trier par droits c'est bien je pense
18:32 <K-Yo> mais à l'intérieur, trier par nom ptetre?
18:32 <K-Yo> pke là c'est désordonné à l'int.
18:32 <epsy> mvoui, puisqu'on y est, pourquoi pas
18:32 <K-Yo> et sinon, j'ai pas les mod-5 qui apparaissent, seulement les admins et mods
18:32 <K-Yo> et owner
18:32 <epsy> y'a un paramètre
18:32 <K-Yo> ah
18:33 <K-Yo> .cfg2 admins
18:33 <tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
18:33 <epsy> enfin je crois
18:33 <K-Yo> .cfg admins
18:33 <tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
18:33 <K-Yo> .cfg2 admin
18:33 <tronner> K-Yo: ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ADMIN_KILL_MESSAGE: admin_kill_message_help || ADMIN_PASS: Password for the basic in game admin || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help
18:33 <epsy> ou pas
18:33 <epsy> ADMIN_LIST_MIN_ACCESS_LEVEL  admin_list_min_access_level_help
18:33 <K-Yo> bah déjà il a y a pas admins
18:33 <epsy> ça devrait etre celui ci
18:34 <K-Yo> oui
18:34 <epsy> bon jvais le retaper
18:34 <epsy> mais ptet qu'il faudrait colorier tout ça non?
18:34 <K-Yo> ouais
18:34 <K-Yo> histoire que ca ait de la gueule
18:34 <epsy> comment on va faire?
18:34 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:35 <K-Yo> tien, j'ai pas tt le monde
18:35 <epsy> par access_level déja
18:35 <aa_voodoo> salut ;)
18:35 <epsy> salut
18:35 <K-Yo> yo aa_voodoo
18:35 <aa_voodoo> lut k ;)
18:35 <K-Yo> on cherche des couleurs pour la commande admins
18:36 <epsy> ah non, pas des couleurs codées en dur, je refuse!
18:36 <K-Yo> bah quoi alors?
18:36 <epsy> j'avais pensé a définir deux couleurs
18:36 <epsy> et en faire un dégradé pour chacune des lignes
18:36 <aa_voodoo> je vous laisse discuter le bout de gras :) A+
18:37 <epsy> ++
18:37 <K-Yo> ++
18:37 <K-Yo> (18:37:00) epsy: ++
18:37 <K-Yo> (18:37:00) K-Yo: ++
18:37 <epsy> i
18:37 <K-Yo> haha
18:37 <epsy> ;
18:37 <K-Yo> un dégradé par ligne?
18:37 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:37 <epsy> non jveux dire
18:37 <epsy> par exemple on prend rouge et jaune
18:38 <epsy> Owner est rouge, Admin est Orange est Mod. Jaune
18:38 <K-Yo> oui oui
18:38 <K-Yo> bah
18:38 <K-Yo> ptetre genre "Owner", "Admin", ... ils sotn ts de la mm couleur
18:39 <K-Yo> et ce sont les GID qui sont colorés selon le niveau
18:39 <epsy> ben, une ligne par niveau non?
18:39 <K-Yo> oui
18:39 <K-Yo> enfin, ça va sauter des lignes tout seul si t'as 20 moderateurs
18:40 <epsy> oui
18:40 <K-Yo> mais sinon oui
18:40 <K-Yo> un truc du genre Owner: a@a | b@b | c@c | d@d\nAdmin: e@e | f@f
18:40 <epsy> oui
18:41 <K-Yo> mais les couleurs sont pas tant unies
18:41 <epsy> normalement ça devrait déja etre sorti par nom
18:41 <K-Yo> ah
18:41 <K-Yo> :/
18:41 <K-Yo> quel nom? le GID?
18:41 <epsy> ce serait pas un truc avec des majuscules par hasard?
18:41 <epsy> oui
18:41 <epsy> quoi d'autre ;)
18:42 <K-Yo> j'ai PTA avant ct-eddie
18:42 <epsy> ouais
18:42 <epsy> les majuscules
18:42 <epsy> grr
18:42 <K-Yo> :P
18:42 <K-Yo> bah trie en convertissant en minuscules
18:42 <K-Yo> ça se fait non?
18:42 <epsy> oui
18:42 <epsy> ben j('utilisait std::set, qui triait tout seul
18:43 <epsy> maintenant jvais avoir a utiliser un std::map
18:43 <K-Yo> je te laisse dans ton jargon ;)
18:43 <K-Yo> j'ai jms appris le C
18:43 <epsy> parce qu'il faut 1/ la clef en minuscule et apres le truc à afficher
18:44 <K-Yo> ouep
18:44 <K-Yo> j'ai déjà fait ça en CamL
18:44 <K-Yo> pour un jeu de pendu
18:44 <K-Yo> ><
18:44 <epsy> maintenant il faut que je me replonge dans tout ça
18:44 <epsy> hihi
18:44 <K-Yo> ;)
18:44 <epsy> tu peux me donner ton fichier d'access_levels, comme ça j'ai des données pr tester?
18:45 <K-Yo> euh
18:45 <K-Yo> jte copie ça
18:45 <epsy> pastebin pour un jour
18:46 <K-Yo> arf il est long
18:46 <K-Yo> pke on a les @ct, @crazy-tronners.com, et les @forums et @x pour certains et @ddl pour moi aussi ><
18:46 <K-Yo> et les USER_ALIAS
18:46 <epsy> haha
18:46 <K-Yo> jte fais un ptit mix
18:46 <epsy> les user_alias ça compte pas de ttf
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18:49 <K-Yo> http://armagetronad.pastebin.com/m1b9aac5b
18:49 <epsy> merci
18:49 <epsy> ça en fait un pack :P
18:50 <K-Yo> ;)
18:50 <K-Yo> j'en ai retiré un petit paquet
18:50 <K-Yo> tu px faire varier les levels pour avoir une plus grande amplitude ;)
18:50 <epsy> ouais
18:51 <K-Yo> bon, je vais taffer un peu
18:51 <epsy> bon boulot
18:51 <epsy> ++
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19:30 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r29 saving now works (kinda)...
19:31 <noob13> when is going to be released?
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19:35 <sithy> .tea
19:36 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (2/32): Thµnd3r, _.mauzi0._
19:38 <epsy> noob13: --> z-man is the only one who knows about the secret plans about .2.8.3
19:38 <luke-jr> noob13: I'm about to release
19:38 <epsy> haha
19:38 <epsy> nice release name
19:38 <epsy> what does it include?
19:39 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8574 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest armagetronad- build fixes for new autoconf and new GCC (4.3)
19:39 <luke-jr> there, see
19:39 <epsy> support for md5 hashes? (instead of bmd5)
19:39 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
19:39 <luke-jr> just compiler fixes in that patch, actually
19:39 <luke-jr> gcc 4.3 + autoconf 2.60
19:40 <epsy> ah
19:40 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8575 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/files/armagetronad- missing file for ""
19:40 <luke-jr> mostly merged from 0.2.8 head
19:40 <epsy> exciting :)
19:40  * luke-jr ponders if is worth fixing
19:40 <epsy> nah...
19:41 <luke-jr> 0.3.0?
19:41  * epsy would not encourage using 0.3.0
19:48 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8576 /armagetronad/branches/ security fix
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20:04 <sithy> .tea
20:04 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (0/32):
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8578 /armagetronad/branches/ (13 files in 2 dirs): GCC 4.3 fixes
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8579 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): GCC 4.3 patch applied by the ebuild now
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20:33 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-build-work] r148 GCC 4.3 patch applied by the ebuild now || [trunk-build-work] r147 missing file for "" || [trunk-build-work] r146 build fixes for new autoconf and new GCC (4.3)
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21:36 <teabot> vectroncommits: [beta2] r30 added Project helper class...
21:37 <luke-jr> http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/17/political-pictures-kfc-tortures-chickens-peta-protest/
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21:58 <noob13> if i were to make a map without walls and just a zone, would the game try to render the grid insanely far and thereby cause a crash?
21:59 <noob13> asking before attempting.. ;P
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22:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/SSOAN/fortress/SimpleZone-0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by SSOAN
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23:17 <madmax> #tea
23:17 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (9/32): Bibb, flipper, JS°, Padawan Idiot, Thµnd3r (Thund3r@forums), |x| Raiden, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~,   GoInVeR (GoInVeR@forums)
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23:42 <sithy> .tea
23:42 <tronner> sithy: Fortress Café - CT's clone: Players (9/32): 1, alf, ct¤$ø1 (sol@ct), flipper, madmax, Padawan Idiot, 
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23:52 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8580 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Revamped the /admins command
23:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8581 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Made UNSILENCE alias of VOICE
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01:21 <luke-jr> noob13: probably
01:22 <luke-jr> noob13: once upon a time, I was able to make a wallless grid, and it worked
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01:57 <Corn> good evening
02:00 <StickyNoob> yo
02:01 <ivantis> Q:	How many elephants can you fit in a VW Bug?
02:01 <ivantis> A:	Four.  Two in the front, two in the back.
02:01 <ivantis> Q:	How can you tell if an elephant is in your refrigerator?
02:01 <ivantis> A:	There's a footprint in the mayo.
02:01 <ivantis> Q:	How can you tell if two elephants are in your refrigerator?
02:01 <ivantis> A:	There's two footprints in the mayo.
02:01 <ivantis> Q:	How can you tell if three elephants are in your refrigerator?
02:01 <ivantis> A:	The door won't shut.
02:01 <ivantis> Q:	How can you tell if four elephants are in your refrigerator?
02:01 <ivantis> A:	There's a VW Bug in your driveway.
02:01 <ivantis> $ fortune -m elephant
02:02 <ivantis> the elephant ones are especially good
02:02 <StickyNoob> there are no words to describe how bad those are
02:04 <ivantis> you use ubuntu right?
02:04 <StickyNoob> yes
02:04 <ivantis> do you have wanda the fish widget?
02:04 <StickyNoob> no
02:05 <ivantis> right click on your top panel->Add to panel...
02:05 <ivantis> add the fish
02:05 <ivantis> its a fortune telling fish!
02:05 <StickyNoob> hmm
02:05 <ivantis> what will they think of next?
02:05 <ivantis> now shhh! im doing my geometry homework and my mom might come downstairs to check on me
02:05 <StickyNoob> how about a pair of eyes that follow your mouse curser
02:06 <StickyNoob> or a mouse pointer odometer
02:07 <ivantis> yeah
02:07 <ivantis> i have those
02:07 <ivantis> wait, mouse odometer?
02:08 <StickyNoob> yeah
02:08 <ivantis> i dont see that one
02:08 <ivantis> i have the eyes
02:09 <StickyNoob> i only had it in suse
02:09 <ivantis> oh
02:09 <ivantis> ive only used ubuntu
02:09 <ivantis> well, openSUSE for like a couple hours
02:09 <ivantis> i didnt like it that much
02:10 <StickyNoob> ivantis: sudo aptitude install kodo
02:10 <ivantis> kodo?
02:10 <ivantis> and i prefer apt-get
02:10 <ivantis> purely because luke-jr doesnt like it
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04:16 <ivantis> yawn
04:16 <ivantis> #night
04:16 <armabot> Good night ivantis!
04:16 <ivantis> that 334 word essay didnt actually take as long as i thought it would
04:19 <ct|kyle> ivantis: 334 wow that is like 1/4 a page
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04:49 <Lucifer> 334 word essay is an email for me
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05:39 <luke-jr> 334 words is only barely above the limits for a lot of webpage forms :þ
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10:33 <Durka> #hello
10:33 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
10:33 <Durka> @hello
10:33 <Durka> zomg hello
10:33 <Durka> luke-jr: lol?
10:33 <Durka> !loli ? **
10:35 <Durka> #m luke-jr I only got one loli today :|
10:35 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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