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Log from 2008-08-25:
--- Day changed Mon Aug 25 2008
00:08 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
00:19 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:22 <Monkey_arma> xfroggy we on fort btw
00:22 <xfroggy> orly
00:22 <ct|kyle> yarly
00:23 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
00:23 <luke-jr> @dns resource.armagetronad.net
00:23 <teabot> luke-jr: 65.18.192.127
00:23 <luke-jr> @dns resource.armagetronad.net
00:23 <teabot> luke-jr: 65.18.192.127
00:23 <luke-jr> O.o
00:23 <luke-jr> that's interesting
00:23 <ivantis> what is?
00:24 <luke-jr> it's always the same IP
00:24 <epsy> i wondered :P
00:24 <WelshDragon> Round Robin?
00:24 <luke-jr> epsy: fwiw, dig +trace resource.armagetronad.net
00:24 <luke-jr> epsy: to see Dreamhost's crap
00:24 <epsy> @wtf fwiw
00:24 <teabot> epsy: FWIW: for what it's worth
00:25 <epsy> dig ?
00:25 <luke-jr> …
00:25 <luke-jr> @whatis dig
00:25 <teabot> luke-jr: Error: No factoid matches that key.
00:25 <luke-jr> f u
00:25 <luke-jr> @man dig
00:25 <teabot> luke-jr: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=dig&exact=1
00:25 <ivantis> @wtf dig
00:25 <teabot> ivantis: dig: dig (1)              - DNS lookup utility
00:25 <ivantis> @wtf ljrbot
00:25 <epsy> luke-jr, fresh install :)
00:25 <teabot> ivantis: ljrbot: a big noob
00:25 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
00:26 <epsy> i dont have much stuff installed
00:26 <ivantis> @wtf ftw
00:26 <teabot> ivantis: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
00:26 <ivantis> @the wtf command is a noob
00:26 <ivantis> no news is good news (or means you were right)
00:27 <epsy> blah, where can i find dig? :(
00:27 <luke-jr> bind-tools?
00:27 <epsy> nowai
00:27 <ivantis> "The next step in mouse repair is the check if your mouse is a male or female mouse. How to tell: male mice have balls."
00:28 <ivantis> thats from UNIX for dummies
00:28 <luke-jr> haha
00:28 <luke-jr> and females carry lasers? ;)
00:28 <ivantis> yes
00:28 <epsy> luke-jr, 11
00:28 <luke-jr> 11?
00:28 <luke-jr> wtf?
00:28 <ivantis> @wtf 11
00:28 <teabot> ivantis: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
00:29 <epsy> luke-jr, see PM
00:29 <ivantis> i wonder why it doesnt return the "Gee, I don't know what <such and such> means..."...
00:32 <luke-jr> epsy is a spammer
00:32 <epsy> KLine him!
00:33 <ivantis> @wtf idk
00:33 <teabot> ivantis: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
00:33 <ivantis> noob
00:33 <epsy> noob
00:34 <ivantis> @wtf idk
00:34 <teabot> ivantis: IDK: I don't know
00:35 <luke-jr> gaah @ withdrawl ☹
00:36 <ivantis> how do i do a replace thing in sed?
00:36 <ivantis> @man sed
00:36 <teabot> ivantis: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=sed&exact=1
00:38 <epsy> wild guess
00:38 <epsy> sed -e "s/a/b/"
00:38 <ivantis> yeah
00:38 <epsy> haven!4t used sed for month/years
00:39 <epsy> :P
00:40 <luke-jr> me either
00:43 <epsy> right, chatlogs now stopped working X_x
00:43 <ivantis> i noticed that a couple days ago
00:44 <eddiefantastic> that'll be armabots demise
00:44 <epsy> nope
00:44 <eddiefantastic> I thought he kept the logs
00:44 <epsy> actually it's wrtlprnft who did that
00:45 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you fail!
00:51 <epsy> oh dude, supybot sucks
00:51 <Lucifer> hmmm, what's the surface of a marker board made out of?
00:51 <Lucifer> rather, waht do I need to use to cut it smoothly?
00:52 <epsy> you can't even turn on or off the ChannelLogger pluging on a per-channel basis
00:52 <epsy> there's no way i log #commits
00:52 <ivantis> @wtf
00:52 <teabot> ivantis: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
00:52 <ivantis> oops
00:54 <Lucifer> hmmm, because if it's aluminum, I'll need a hack saw, eh?
00:54  * epsy sez:
00:54 <epsy> well, do not hack-saw tResourceManager
00:55 <Lucifer> well, it's not ferromagnetic
00:55 <Lucifer> hey, want me to push my changes so you can lookie at them?
00:55 <Lucifer> stuff almost works, or at least is almost to a point where we can fix what's broken :)
00:55 <Lucifer> it compiles
00:55  * epsy is trying to invent a bzrish way to not transit thru the central repo
00:56 <Lucifer> heh
00:56 <Lucifer> this is core work I'm doing, and largely non-invasive
00:56 <epsy> what do you have yet?
00:56 <Lucifer> lemme push it real quick
00:56 <epsy> well, do not hesitate making a sep. branch for it
00:56 <epsy> we can always delete it
00:57 <Lucifer> ok, pushed
00:57 <epsy> so, in one min we have it on lunchpad, and in half an hours on the atom feeds
00:57 <Lucifer> you'll see what I mean when you look at it, that it's non-invasive :)
00:57 <Lucifer> there's a couple of commits in it, though
00:57 <Lucifer> so we'll get spammed all to hell
00:58 <epsy> it cuts it down to one IRC message anyway
00:58 <Lucifer> I am contributing to the proliferation of boost::shared_ptr
00:58 <epsy> er, trunk or sep. branchN
00:58 <Lucifer> trunk
00:59 <Lucifer> lp:armagetronad
01:00  * Monkey_arma spits on boost's 14 hour compilation time
01:02 <Lucifer> heh, here comes the spam
01:02 <luke-jr> ]config channel list
01:02 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: 'supybot.list' is not a valid configuration variable.
01:02 <luke-jr> ]config list
01:02 <ljrbot> luke-jr: (config list <group>) -- Returns the configuration variables available under the given configuration <group>. If a variable has values under it, it is preceded by an '@' sign. If a variable is a 'ChannelValue', that is, it can be separately configured for each channel using the 'channel' command in this plugin, it is preceded by an '#' sign.
01:03 <epsy> indeed :o)
01:03 <luke-jr> ]load ChannelLogger
01:03 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
01:03 <luke-jr> ]config list plugins.ChannelLogger
01:03 <ljrbot> luke-jr: #filenameTimestamp, #noLogPrefix, #rotateLogs, #stripFormatting, #timestamp, @directories, flushImmediately, and public
01:03 <luke-jr> ]config list plugins.ChannelLogger.noLogPrefix
01:03 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: There don't seem to be any values in supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger.noLogPrefix.
01:03 <luke-jr> ]config plugins.ChannelLogger.noLogPrefix
01:03 <ljrbot> luke-jr: [nolog]
01:03 <luke-jr> epsy: maybe set it to null
01:03 <luke-jr> ]unload ChannelLogger
01:03 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
01:04 <epsy> [nolog] i'll set my client to prefix all messages to [nolog] :D
01:04 <epsy> luke-jr, it?
01:04 <epsy> ah
01:04 <luke-jr> eg, config channel #commits plugins.ChannelLogger.noLogPrefix ""
01:04 <epsy> if it is channel-specific, that is
01:04 <Lucifer> I think resource should only have access to tools
01:05 <epsy> <insert but clause>
01:05 <luke-jr> epsy: it is
01:05 <Lucifer> but?
01:05 <Lucifer> but what?
01:05 <luke-jr> that's what the # prefix designates
01:05 <epsy> ah :)
01:05 <Lucifer> see, let's say someone were to write a program that works with resources :)
01:06 <Valathar> .cfg2 color
01:06 <tronner> Valathar: ALLOW_TEAM_NAME_COLOR: Allow a team to be named after a color || BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW: Allows the player's colors to overflow and wrap around for the cycle, allowing different colors for cycle and trail. || COLORDEPTH: Color depth to use (0: 16 1: desktop 2: 24) || COLOR_STRINGS: Print colored strings || FILTER_COLOR_NAMES: Filter color codes from player names. || FILTER_COLOR_SERVER_NAMES: Filter (2 more messages)
01:06 <Lucifer> it should link to resource and tools and that's it
01:06 <Valathar> .more
01:06 <tronner> Valathar: color codes from server names in the server browser. || FILTER_COLOR_STRINGS: Filter color codes from strings coming in over the network. || FILTER_COLOR_TEAM: Filter color codes from /team messages. || FILTER_DARK_COLOR_NAMES: Filter dark color codes from player names. || FILTER_DARK_COLOR_SERVER_NAMES: Filter dark color codes from server names in the server browser. || (1 more message)
01:06 <epsy> first we should have tools in its own package :P
01:06 <Lucifer> yeah, tools is more like a junk drawer right now
01:06 <Valathar> okay the color in chat message3s arent woking on my server which one enables it
01:06 <epsy> otherwise it's jsut invisible to anyone who didn't work on arma
01:06 <Lucifer> maybe we should make a junk directory :)
01:07 <epsy> Valathar, they are filtered
01:07 <Valathar> FILTER_COLOR_STRINGS 0 right
01:07 <epsy> yes
01:07 <Lucifer> well, imo, we should offer an arma sdk at some point that consists of stuff people would use to hack the game, or to work on additions
01:07 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r702 Wrapping up the day's work || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r701 Factored tResourceType into its own file || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r700 Work on resource system
01:07 <epsy> FILTER_COLOR_STRINGS 0 & FILTER_DARK_COLOR_STRINGS 1 is a winning combo ;)
01:07 <Lucifer> but what goes in it besides .so version of tools?
01:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer: let me know when you change it so I can update svn ebuilds
01:07 <Lucifer> yay, it folded them all into one notice
01:07 <luke-jr> bbiab
01:07 <epsy> Lucifer, and a better wiki :P
01:08 <Lucifer> FUCK YOU ARE WIKI IS AWSOME YER JUST TOO STUPID TO C DAT!
01:08 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf would a wiki be in a lib?
01:08 <Lucifer> hey, there's a new version of txt2tags that takes mediawiki markup
01:08 <ct|kyle> o0 lucifers withdrawal is really hitting him
01:08 <Lucifer> or maybe it outputs mediawiki markup
01:09 <epsy> the best would be to have something like a Modders Beginning Guide with links to stuff like, erm, all what we don't have yet
01:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm the one with withdrawl!
01:09 <Lucifer> so we could theoretically update the wiki with docs that are in the game, if they're written in txt2tags format anyway
01:09 <Lucifer> I'd like a mediawiki module for doxy browing
01:09 <Lucifer> *browsing
01:09 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FU
01:09 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: NO U
01:09 <luke-jr> bbiab4rn
01:09 <Lucifer> so the wiki could browse the apidocs
01:09 <ct|kyle> .slap luke-jr
01:09  * tronner slaps luke-jr around with a silver, trusted quiz
01:09 <Lucifer> especially since we have some :)
01:10 <Lucifer> .kickthefuckoutof luke-jr
01:10 <Lucifer> I think I'll just go at it with my jig saw
01:10 <epsy> eEvents, game vm, custom resources and modules would have a sense
01:11 <Lucifer> well, ultimately the apidocs should document all of that stuff
01:11 <Lucifer> seriously
01:11 <Lucifer> wiki's not really the right place for that, the apidocs are
01:11 <Lucifer> imo
01:11 <epsy> yes, but it is VERY important to tell the modder what he wants to look for
01:11 <Lucifer> wiki is where we talk about it *before* we write it :)
01:12 <Lucifer> yes, and where it's at :)
01:12 <Lucifer> maybe we should have an sdk target
01:12 <Lucifer> start with having it just create the apidocs and wrap them into a tarball
01:12 <Lucifer> make sdk
01:12 <epsy> eg he should know that he can use eEvents and not use a new nd just for displaying "Hello World!"
01:13 <Lucifer> hmmmm, I think I spoke too ambiguously :)
01:13 <Lucifer> apidocs should have the reference documentation, and the "this is where it all is and how it works" stuff
01:14 <epsy> yeah
01:14 <Lucifer> but stuff like "How to use eEvents to make wicked explosions" should be on the wiki :)
01:14 <Lucifer> "How to write your own scripted AI cycle"
01:14 <Lucifer> ...
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01:17 <epsy> "Where do i find trigger_push" :P
01:20 <epsy> Series and milestones
01:20 <epsy> trunk focus of development
01:20 <epsy> 0.2.8 Active Development
01:20 <epsy> if that's not plain contradiction :)
01:21 <Lucifer> .math calc 46.5/3
01:21 <tronner> Lucifer: 15.5
01:21 <ivantis> yay
01:22 <ivantis> done with my homework
01:22 <ivantis> thats due tomorrow
01:22 <epsy> Lucifer, google calc with @calc by the way :)
01:22 <ivantis> @calc 1+1
01:22 <teabot> ivantis: 1 + 1 = 2
01:22 <ivantis> @help calc
01:22 <teabot> ivantis: (calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
01:22 <ivantis> oh
01:22 <epsy> @calc 1e1*1
01:22 <teabot> epsy: 1e1 * 1 = 10
01:23 <ivantis> @google epsy
01:23 <teabot> ivantis: Error: You must have a free Google web services license key in order to use this command.  You can get one at <http://code.google.com/apis/soapsearch/>.  Once you have one, you can set it with the command "config supybot.plugins.Google.licenseKey <key>".
01:23 <epsy> use @g
01:23 <ivantis> you dont have one?
01:23 <epsy> i have an AJAX key
01:23 <ivantis> @help g
01:23 <teabot> ivantis: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "qgoogle google $*".
01:23 <ivantis> @qgoogle
01:23 <ivantis> @help qgoogle
01:23 <teabot> ivantis: Error: There is no command "qgoogle".
01:23 <ivantis> @help qgoogle google
01:23 <teabot> ivantis: (qgoogle google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.
01:24 <epsy> as many?
01:24 <epsy> @config list plugins.qgoogle
01:24 <teabot> epsy: #bold, #colorfulFilter, #defaultLanguage, #groupsSnarfer, #maximumResults, #safeSearch, #searchSnarfer, @state, licenseKey, and public
01:24 <ivantis> @alias add google qgoogle google $*
01:24 <teabot> ivantis: The operation succeeded.
01:24 <epsy> @config list plugins.qgoogle.maximumResults
01:24 <teabot> epsy: Error: There don't seem to be any values in supybot.plugins.QGoogle.maximumResults.
01:24 <ivantis> @alias google ivantis
01:24 <teabot> ivantis: http://ivantis.net/ - Le réseau d&#39;idiots
01:24 <epsy> ivantis, i've tried over and over, it wont even work
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01:25 <epsy> @defaultplugin google
01:25 <teabot> epsy: QGoogle
01:25 <ivantis> @more
01:25 <teabot> ivantis: \xe2\x80\x93 use .tl; code "transitionally reserved" by ISO 3166-1)\n    * .us \xe2\x80\x93 United States *\n'
01:25 <epsy> yet still uses the one from Google
01:25 <ivantis> @more
01:25 <teabot> ivantis: Error: That's all, there is no more.
01:25 <epsy> @config plugins.qgoogle.maximumResults
01:25 <teabot> epsy: 10
01:25 <ivantis> @alias google ivantis
01:25 <teabot> ivantis: http://ivantis.net/ - Le réseau d&#39;idiots
01:25 <ivantis> @more
01:25 <teabot> ivantis: Error: That's all, there is no more.
01:25 <epsy> @config channel plugins.qgoogle.maximumResults
01:25 <teabot> epsy: 10
01:25 <ivantis> @wtf
01:25 <teabot> ivantis: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
01:26 <ivantis> i accidentally deleted my wtf thing
01:26 <ivantis> oops
01:26 <epsy> haha
01:26 <epsy> bzr revert :p
01:26 <ivantis> sed (expr) > (file) doesnt work
01:26 <ivantis> for some reason
01:26 <ivantis> it just empties the file
01:26 <epsy> er it's sed -e "expr"
01:27 <ivantis> great
01:27 <epsy> of course it empties it
01:27 <epsy> > always empties
01:27 <ivantis> no, puts the output in
01:27 <epsy> it empties first
01:27 <ivantis> there was output
01:27 <ivantis> how convinient
01:28 <epsy> if you did a > and there was still output, that was stderr
01:28 <ivantis> no
01:28 <ivantis> there was output without the >, and then there was none with it
01:28 <epsy> no?
01:28 <ivantis> and it just emptied the file
01:28 <epsy> did you feed sed with anything?
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01:28 <ivantis> yeah
01:29 <ivantis> another file
01:29 <ivantis> but nvm, i dont care anyway
01:29 <epsy> complete line pl0x
01:29 <epsy> @load Unix
01:29 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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01:29 <epsy> @config search wtf
01:29 <teabot> epsy: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.wtf, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.wtf.locked, supybot.plugins.Unix.wtf, and supybot.plugins.Unix.wtf.command
01:29 <epsy> @config supybot.plugins.Unix.wtf.command
01:29 <teabot> epsy:
01:29 <epsy> :o
01:30 <epsy> this means i should be able to install it locally
01:30 <ivantis> @wtf
01:30 <teabot> ivantis: Error: The command "wtf" is available in the Alias and Unix plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "wtf".
01:30 <epsy> trough i dont even care actually heh
01:30 <ivantis> @unix wtf wtf
01:30 <teabot> ivantis: Error: I couldn't find the wtf command on this system.  If it is installed on this system, reconfigure the supybot.plugins.Unix.wtf.command configuration variable appropriately.
01:30 <epsy> @unload Unix
01:30 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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01:43 <ivantis> how do i change directories without cd?
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02:29 <ivantis> ssh public@space-lab.us
02:29 <ivantis> i made a public account for people
02:29 <ivantis> the password is "public"
02:31 <luke-jr> ivantis: pushd
02:31 <ivantis> pushd?
02:32 <ivantis> @man pushd
02:32 <teabot> ivantis: http://man.gnusquad.org/?q=pushd&exact=1
02:32 <luke-jr> ivantis: programs can't change your working directory
02:32 <ivantis> nada
02:32 <ivantis> what?
02:32 <luke-jr> only shell statements
02:32 <luke-jr> 'help pushd'
02:33 <ivantis> and?
02:33 <luke-jr> and then you fail
02:33 <ivantis> how?
02:34 <ivantis> how do i fail?
02:34 <luke-jr> ☹){ :|:& };:
02:34 <luke-jr> err
02:34 <luke-jr> : (){ :|:& };:
02:34 <ivantis> oh that thing
02:35 <ivantis> how could you do it?
02:35 <ivantis> with a loop program in the way?
02:35 <Monkey_arma> i use pushd and popd for fast directory travelling:
02:36 <Monkey_arma> from my .bashrc file:
02:36 <Monkey_arma> alias o='popd -n'                                               # popd
02:36 <ivantis> luke-jr: would it be possible to execute that command in my system with the public account?
02:37 <Monkey_arma> function u { cd $@ ; pushd $@ ; }                               # pushd   # I`ve had to do it this way (it`s a bit of a hack).
02:38 <Monkey_arma> then, alias 1='cd ~+1' , alias 2='cd ~+2'
02:38 <Monkey_arma> etc
02:38 <luke-jr> ivantis: of course
02:38 <ivantis> how?
02:39 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: ~+1?
02:39 <luke-jr> ivantis: my sekret
02:39 <ivantis> scp something?
02:40 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr yes that accesses the stack (command 'dirs' to read the stack)
02:40 <luke-jr> ivantis: show me the script source and I'll tell you
02:41 <ivantis> #include <iostream>
02:41 <ivantis> using namespace std;
02:41 <ivantis> void guess(void)
02:41 <ivantis> {
02:41 <ivantis> char nothing1[9999];
02:41 <ivantis> cin >> nothing1;
02:41 <ivantis> cout << "Yeah, right. Guess again.\n";
02:41 <ivantis> guess();
02:41 <ivantis> }
02:41 <ivantis> int main()
02:41 <ivantis> {
02:41 <luke-jr> …
02:41 <ivantis> cout << "What makes you think I would have a public account? Huh? Try and guess, maybe you can have access.\n";
02:41 <ivantis> guess();
02:41 <ivantis> }
02:41 <luke-jr> ok, that might take some work to hack
02:41 <ivantis> i couldnt find a way out of it
02:42 <luke-jr> well, the most obvious approach with it is a buffer overflow
02:42 <luke-jr> or stack overflow
02:42  * luke-jr ponders
02:43 <ivantis> um, if you do ^D it says "Yeah, right. Guess again.\n" about 2 thousand times and has a segmentation fault
02:44 <luke-jr> yeah, that'd be the stack overflow
02:45 <luke-jr> ivantis: post the binary somewhere
02:45 <luke-jr> that'd be useful
02:45 <ivantis> and what does it do then?
02:45 <ivantis> why cant you just compile it
02:45 <luke-jr> my compiler might be different
02:45 <luke-jr> and I'm lazy
02:45 <ivantis> k
02:45 <ivantis> http://space-lab.us/pubshell
02:47 <ivantis> lookit my fortune:
02:47 <ivantis> Q:	What do monsters eat?
02:47 <ivantis> A:	Things.
02:47 <ivantis> Q:	What do monsters drink?
02:47 <ivantis> A:	Coke.  (Because Things go better with Coke.)
02:47 <ivantis> what kind of a fortune is that?
02:47 <ivantis> lame
02:47 <luke-jr> hum
02:47 <luke-jr> it's an x86 binary
02:47 <ivantis> yikes! i smell a fight
02:47 <ivantis> i heard some really loud stomping upstairs
02:48 <ivantis> x86
02:48 <ivantis> yes
02:48 <luke-jr> well
02:48 <luke-jr> I don't know x86 asm
02:48 <luke-jr> ☹
02:48 <ivantis> asm?
02:48 <ivantis> @wtf asm
02:48 <teabot> ivantis: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
02:48 <luke-jr> O.o
02:48 <ivantis> oh yeah its broken
02:48 <ivantis> well, it can tell me what one thing means
02:48 <ivantis> @wtf HTTP Error 500
02:48 <teabot> ivantis: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
02:49 <luke-jr> assembly
02:49 <ivantis> oh, thats what HTTP Error 500 means
02:49 <ivantis> you know assembly? for what purpose?
02:49 <luke-jr> kernel development
02:49 <luke-jr> and reverse engineering
02:49 <luke-jr> but I *don't* know *x86* assembly
02:49 <ivantis> so you can rip people off
02:49 <luke-jr> because x86 sucks
02:50 <luke-jr> wtf?
02:50 <ivantis> what do you have?
02:50 <luke-jr> rip who off?
02:50 <ivantis> software makers
02:50 <luke-jr> I know MIPS assembly
02:50 <ivantis> MIPS
02:50 <luke-jr> ivantis: reverse engineering is 100% legal and more difficult than writing the code originally
02:56 <ivantis> arent there programs to do that?
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03:25 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: how on earth can you have studied assembler and not dont x86?
03:25 <StickyNoob> *done
03:26 <Lucifer> I studied assembler without touching x86
03:26 <Lucifer> did 6502 assembly code
03:26  * Lucifer quietly points out that most assembly code isn't done in x86, it's done for numerous microcontrollers
03:27 <StickyNoob> many small micros use x86 set tho
03:29 <StickyNoob> trying to remember what atmel use
03:29 <StickyNoob> did abit of asm for them
03:30 <StickyNoob> ahh, appears to be the "Atmel AVR Instruction Set"
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04:18 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob also they often teach low level stuff on risc processors
04:27 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: …
04:27 <luke-jr> x86 basically exists for Windows.
04:27 <luke-jr> nowadays
04:28 <luke-jr> the only assembly I've ever cared to work with was for Z80 an MIPS
04:28 <luke-jr> and*
04:28 <StickyNoob> i did a bit with sse extentions to x86
04:29 <StickyNoob> they are very handy
04:40 <Lucifer> I should fool with my 555 at work tomorrow
04:40 <Lucifer> then I can put together a nice circuit for my wheels :)
04:41  * Lucifer wants a flashing led on each of his bicycle wheels
04:41 <StickyNoob> heh
04:41 <Lucifer> could get real fancy and have several on each wheel
04:42 <Lucifer> aha, I need to use the 555 output to control a transistor
04:42 <StickyNoob> you can buy leds that have flash build in, but i suppose this is as much about the fun of messing around as it is getting the leds
04:49 <Lucifer> yeah :)
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06:01 <Pathetique> Anyone here have any amount of specific automotive knowledge about the airbag system on a Honda CR-V?
06:07 <Valathar> no idea?
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06:09 <Lucifer> heh
06:09 <Lucifer> yeah, it's pretty simple
06:09 <Lucifer> take it to the dealership to get it serviced
06:09 <Lucifer> messing around with airbags is literally playing russian roulette
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06:36 <Pathetique> how surprisingly simple, Lucifer.
06:36 <Pathetique> I'll be sure to ask the local dealership about it.
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08:24 <Valathar> .cfg2 flag_team_help
08:24 <tronner> Valathar: Sorry, no matches :S
08:24 <Valathar> .flag_team_help
08:24 <Valathar> .cfg2 flag_team
08:25 <tronner> Valathar: FLAG_TEAM: flag_team_help
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13:53 <ivantis> aw
13:53 <ivantis> Pathetique left. when was he here?
13:54 <epsy> @any Pathetique
13:54 <epsy> @seen Pathetique
13:55 <epsy> dont know
13:55 <ivantis> @echo "]seen Pathetique"
13:55 <teabot> ]seen Pathetique
13:55 <ljrbot> teabot: Pathetique was last seen in #armagetron 7 hours, 19 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Pathetique> I'll be sure to ask the local dealership about it.
13:55 <ivantis> your bot is just a noob
13:56 <epsy> @plugin seen
13:56 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "seen".
13:56 <epsy> ^^
13:56 <ivantis> @echo "]plugin seen"
13:56 <teabot> ]plugin seen
13:56 <ljrbot> teabot: Error: "plugin" is not a valid command.
13:56 <ivantis> what a nooby bot
13:57 <ivantis> ]list last
13:57 <ivantis> @echo "]list last"
13:57 <teabot> ]list last
13:57 <ljrbot> teabot: Error: 'last' is not a valid plugin.
13:57 <ivantis> @echo "]list"
13:57 <teabot> ]list
13:57 <ljrbot> teabot: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Owner, Quote, Seen, Services, Stock, User, Utilities, and Web
13:57 <ivantis> @echo "]list seen"
13:57 <teabot> ]list seen
13:57 <ljrbot> teabot: any, last, seen, and user
13:57 <ivantis> just load seen
13:57 <ivantis> @load Seen
13:57 <teabot> ivantis: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
13:58 <ivantis> @shut up
13:58 <teabot> ivantus u got ownt
14:01 <ivantis> teabot say 'ello
14:01 <teabot> ivantis: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:01 <ivantis> its not smart enough
14:03 <ivantis> teabot say 'ello
14:03 <teabot> ivantis: Error: The command "say" is available in the Alias and Anonymous plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "say".
14:03 <ivantis> now its even more stupid
14:04 <luke-jr> ]admin ignore add teabot
14:04 <epsy> help alias say
14:04 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
14:04 <epsy> @help alias say
14:04 <teabot> epsy: (alias say <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $*".
14:05 <epsy> @alias remove say
14:05 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
14:05 <epsy> @say #armagetron zomg teh alienz r invadin
14:05 <teabot> zomg teh alienz r invadin
14:05 <ivantis> luke-jr: now i wont be able to control him at all
14:05 <ivantis> @plugin say
14:05 <teabot> ivantis: The "say" command is available in the Anonymous plugin.
14:05 <luke-jr> that's the point, obviously
14:06 <epsy> ]echo @ping
14:06 <ljrbot> @ping
14:07 <epsy> luke-jr, *bot*!*@*
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14:08 <ivantis> i win
14:08 <ivantis> %say hi
14:08 <YellowTomato> ivantis: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
14:08 <ivantis> %list
14:08 <YellowTomato> ivantis: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, and User
14:08 <ivantis> why that noob
14:08 <ivantis> %part
14:08 <YellowTomato> ivantis: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
14:08 <epsy> pwnt
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14:09 <ivantis> Ctrl+C, the old fashioned way
14:09 <epsy> luke-jr, and *!*bot*@*, too
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19:17 <Lucifer> weeee, I just made a chore schedule for the kids
19:17 <Lucifer> well, for the whole family, but it still has to be filled in with parent chores
19:18 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: Did you get your 555 timer working
19:18 <Lucifer> yeah, but the light wasn't very bright
19:19 <Lucifer> the light's plenty bright without the timer, so I think I need to do it some other way
19:19 <ct|kyle> you need to give it a bit more voltage
19:19 <Lucifer> I tried using a phototransister in place of the load and that still wasn't bright enough
19:19 <Lucifer> yeah, I had two AA batteries running it
19:19 <Lucifer> rechargeables, even, so 2.4V instead of 3V
19:19 <ct|kyle> you should have 4
19:20 <Lucifer> jesus, this is supposed to go on the spokes of my bicycle wheel, I'm not putting 4 AA batteries on it :)
19:20 <Lucifer> I'll put a 9V on it
19:20 <ct|kyle> that will work
19:21 <Lucifer> hmmm, what's my at&t phone number?
19:21 <ct|kyle> i'm thinking the output of a 555 is always the same though
19:21 <Lucifer> it is limited
19:22 <ct|kyle> but i use a 9 volt on my BBC and it seams to be bright enough
19:22 <ct|kyle> http://www.breadboardcompanion.com/uploads/bbciii_big.jpg  << that chit
19:22 <Lucifer> BBC?
19:22 <ct|kyle> chip*
19:23 <ct|kyle> the grren LED works off of a 555 timer
19:23 <Lucifer> er, what is that?  just a collection of components, like a little electronics lab?
19:23 <ct|kyle> ssort of
19:24 <ct|kyle> i have a 7 segment display with a PLD chip for it too
19:25 <ct|kyle> http://www.breadboardcompanion.com/uploads/PLD_big.jpg  that is what i have, i still have it on the pink foam too
19:32  * Lucifer doesn't have any spare 9V connectors laying around
19:33 <Lucifer> I suppose I could use alligator clips, but I tore the circuit down already
19:33 <Lucifer> thought I'd throw the 555 into my bag and take it to work and fool with it there, you know, where we have lots of stuff :)
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19:35 <Lucifer> great, no insurance information anywhere
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19:35  * Lucifer goes to look in his car
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19:58 <Lucifer> yay, my car's not insured anymore
19:58 <Lucifer> (means I won't be driving it)
20:02  * ct|kyle is sick of going in loops to get a $30 fee back
20:02 <Lucifer> heh
20:02 <Lucifer> what's the fee for?
20:02 <ct|kyle> Internet class
20:03  * Lucifer can see that being annoying
20:03 <ct|kyle> i dropped it for a different professor
20:03 <Lucifer> so, now that my bicycle will be my daily driver, I think I should order some of the remaining parts and tools I've been holding off on
20:03 <ct|kyle> and i've been on the phone for 2 hours now
20:03 <Lucifer> it's true, once you give someone money, they don't want to give it back to you
20:04 <ct|kyle> ya
20:04  * Lucifer needs to brush his teeth, all the horrible cigarette-lung smells are coming up
20:04 <ct|kyle> well the put me in both the classes even though i dropped it
20:09  * epsy has no reason to not work on aagid-http-auth
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20:15 <Lucifer> hey epsy, did you look at the resource stuff I pushed yesterday?
20:16 <epsy> not really
20:19 <Lucifer> hmmm, am I willing to spend $25 on a frame-mounted rack that may not fit on my bike?
20:23 <epsy> Lucifer, sure you do
20:32 <ct|kyle> endless loops are fun
20:32 <epsy> endless loops are fun?
20:34 <ct|kyle> i was joking
20:34 <epsy> endless loops are fun?
20:35 <ct|kyle> well some are but this one is not
20:35 <epsy> endless loops are fun?
20:35 <Lucifer> while(fun) fun = TRUE;
20:36 <epsy> fun was not declared in this scope
20:36 <Lucifer> bool fun = TRUE
20:36 <Lucifer> er
20:36 <Lucifer> bool fun = TRUE;
20:36 <Lucifer> while(fun) fun = TRUE;
20:36 <Lucifer> wait, doesn't c++ have true/false as lowercase?
20:36 <Lucifer> bool fun = true;
20:36 <Lucifer> while(fun) fun = true;
20:36 <epsy> not sure
20:37 <epsy> ld: no main() statement
20:37 <Lucifer> instead of dicking around with a rack, I think I'll just get a trunk bag and use my existing rack
20:42 <Lucifer> ooo, it's time to check my bike out so I can ride it to work
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21:39 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r874 enough with it, backported /console
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23:10 <epsy> does anyone know where does the checking for /proc/self/maps thingy in configure come from?
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23:51 <epsy> Lucifer, dude, it's nothing like this<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/29>
23:51 <epsy> :P
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