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00:44 <epsy> zmanuel, in AUTHORS i am still mentionned as a third-party contributor, I'm not sure if i am still meant to be there or not :)
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01:14 <hoax> #tea
01:14 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): CT_emmy (peiaemanuel@crazy-tronners.com), CTºAdy-Lucifer (Ady-Lucifer@crazy-tronners.com), Dude, Lackadaisical (Lackadaisical@forums), madmax (madmax@forums), z3r0, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
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01:26 <ivantis> whos there?
01:27 <StickyNoob> yo
01:27 <ivantis> hey sticky
01:28 <ivantis> you know why i havent been on irc for a while? i was living in an airstream out in the middle of nowhere for a while
01:28 <ivantis> 2 whole days without internet!
01:28 <ivantis> i almost died
01:29 <StickyNoob> heh
01:29 <ivantis> i just got to a hotel
01:29 <ivantis> with wi-fi
01:30 <StickyNoob> why you traveling so much?
01:30 <ivantis> for fun
01:30 * ivantis is visiting his cousin
01:31 <StickyNoob> ahh
01:31 <StickyNoob> yun?
01:31 <StickyNoob> fun even
01:32 <ivantis> yeah
01:32 <StickyNoob> sorry distupgrading ubuntu and it keeps taking my network down
01:32 <ivantis> your on ubuntu too? i thought you used gentoo
01:33 <StickyNoob> naa i prefer my computer to have another use other than compiling itself
01:34 <ivantis> yes
01:35 <ivantis> you know what im gona do when i get home? work on a zones hack
01:35 <StickyNoob> what do you want to do?
01:36 <ivantis> you know that post from safariskater a while ago for the growing and shrinking zones?
01:36 <ivantis> something like that
01:36 <StickyNoob> i dont read the forums
01:37 <StickyNoob> zones can grow and shrink at the moment cant they?
01:37 <ivantis> er
01:37 <ivantis> idk
01:37 <ivantis> but like settings on maps, n stuff
01:37 <StickyNoob> death zones grow
01:38 <ivantis> i know, but shrink
01:38 <ivantis> is what he asked
01:38 <StickyNoob> well the sumo zones shrink
01:38 <ivantis> yeah, but just from settings
01:39 <ivantis> not from colapsing
01:39 <StickyNoob> yeah sumo zones naturaly get smaller even when not collapsing
01:39 <ivantis> o
01:40 <ivantis> i should start looking at something like that
01:40 <ivantis> to start on this
01:43 <ivantis> look at this http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18409&highlight= post
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01:48 <epsy> hi
01:48 <ivantis> hey epsy
01:49 <epsy> pls no! work on dummy bugfixing! :)
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01:50 <ivantis> what?
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01:53 <ivantis> w/e
01:53 <ivantis> i might even start on zones right now...
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02:21 <Flex> #tea
02:21 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): CTºAdy-Lucifer (Ady-Lucifer@crazy-tronners.com), J§°, NSC chriscross, TrT~GöKu, twisp, ~|DS|~ Judders
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02:34 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
02:34 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla, CA, San Diego, California is 95.9°F (5:32 PM PDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.45 in 997.2 hPa (Steady).
02:35 <ivantis> #weather 88005
02:35 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Elks Club, Las Cruces, New Mexico is 72.3°F (6:35 PM MDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady).
02:38 <ivantis> #weather 99999
02:38 <armabot> ivantis: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:38 <ivantis> #weather 66044
02:38 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Alvamar Estates, Lawrence, Kansas is 79.3°F (7:38 PM CDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
02:39 <StickyNoob> ivantis: im not sure but i think epsy ment please dont try to fix things that are not bugs
02:39 <ivantis> yeah. w/e
02:40 <ivantis> im working on it right now, but gWinZone.cpp/.h are just garbles of incomprehensible crap. i found some stuff that is relevant, but i dont want to fool with it till im sure
02:40 <StickyNoob> heh
02:40 <ivantis> im working on 0.2.8_alpha source that i just got from bzr
02:41 <StickyNoob> yoyu program c++?
02:41 <ivantis> well, im not too good, but i can usually get the idea from someone elses source
02:42 <ivantis> if i do something wrong, will it give compiling errors?
02:43 <StickyNoob> depends on exactly what you do wrong
02:43 <ivantis> like do something against its corosponding .h file
02:43 <StickyNoob> you can get stuff to complie that still is garbage and dosent do what you want
02:46 <ivantis> will you try everything out for me? i dont have a client on the computer im using for SSH
02:46 <ivantis> ill host a private server
02:46 <StickyNoob> err ok
02:46 <ivantis> tyvm
02:48 <ivantis> and... will you help me a little with coding? youre good at this right?
02:49 <StickyNoob> no im not good at it at all, but i can try
02:50 <StickyNoob> tbh im not sure what you are trying to achieve, you seem to want expanding zones but the method: gZone & gZone::SetExpansionSpeed( REAL expansionSpeed ) is in there, what more do you want?
02:50 <ivantis> so that you can make them shrink
02:51 <ivantis> without being sumo zones
02:51 <StickyNoob> put a negative value in to that method
02:51 <ivantis> did you read http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18409&
02:51 <StickyNoob> no
02:52 * StickyNoob reads
02:52 <ivantis> ok, negative. i had a better idea: if ZONE_MODE is shrink, its negative, if its grow, its posotive. good idea, eh?
02:53 <StickyNoob> i prefer negative values
02:54 <ivantis> a shrinking death zone? who the hell is stupid enough to fall for that?
02:54 <StickyNoob> reduces the number of variables lyeing around and makes things easier to understand and more compact
02:54 <Flex> StickyNoob, so what you wearin
02:54 <ivantis> uh, ill put a lot of comments around it
02:54 <ivantis> but first for a negatvie
02:54 <ivantis> for you to test
02:55 <StickyNoob> Flex: the restraining order includes irc
02:55 <ivantis> whats the regular setting for win zone growth amount?
02:55 <Flex> oh
02:55 <ivantis> like /admin setting
02:55 <StickyNoob> ivantis: duno, just try something
02:55 <ivantis> k
02:55 <ivantis> ill set it up after i get it
03:07 <ivantis> hey, im compiling, how do i just make the server and not the client?
03:08 <StickyNoob> ./configure --disable-glout isnt it?
03:08 <ivantis> i think theres more, and it says make client true, server false
03:09 <StickyNoob> heh actualy --enable-dedicated
03:09 <ivantis> that was it before
03:10 <ivantis> im doing make
03:10 <ivantis> ...
03:10 <ivantis> displaying a lot of junk...
03:10 <StickyNoob> you set it at the configure stage
03:10 <ivantis> i know
03:10 <ivantis> i did
03:10 <StickyNoob> did you run "./configure --enable-dedicated"??
03:11 <ivantis> no, ./configure --disable-glout
03:11 <ivantis> that worked
03:11 <StickyNoob> ok
03:11 <ivantis> would this thing hurry up!!!
03:11 <ivantis> grr
03:11 <ivantis> i might have to go soon, im goin somewhere again
03:11 <StickyNoob> ivantis: how many cores does the computer compiling have?
03:11 <ivantis> it better compile soon
03:12 <ivantis> cores? what?
03:12 <StickyNoob> single core, dual, quad?
03:12 <ivantis> idk
03:12 <ivantis> the "make" got angry about some things in gWinZone.cpp, but it ignored them
03:13 <ivantis> ok, i must go, i need to go somewhere. i might be back tomorow
03:13 <StickyNoob> cya
03:14 <ivantis> later
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04:27 <Stewie-arma> it's the x noob
04:27 <xfroggy> noob x sounds more polite
04:27 <Stewie-arma> well
04:28 <Stewie-arma> "it's the noob x"
04:28 <xfroggy> :D
04:28 <Stewie-arma> just doesn't fit too well in my books
04:28 <xfroggy> blade hell
04:28 <xfroggy> :D
04:28 <ct|kyle> N00B ALERT
04:29 <ct|kyle> Please Kick the n00b armabot
04:29 <xfroggy> ct|kyle, :D
04:29 <ct|kyle> xfroggy: :D
04:39 <Stewie-arma> :D
04:39 <Stewie-arma> sorry
04:39 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma, :D
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05:51 <luke-jr> ah, that was a good movie…
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07:15 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-P3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
07:32 <xfroggy> luke-jr, passion of the christ?
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10:21 <akira_arma_> wow
10:21 <akira_arma_> tron crashed the 1st time for me!
10:21 <akira_arma_> 0.3.0 version
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10:36 <akira_arma__> anyone of the devs alive?
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11:02 <epsy> akira_arma, what did you do ?
11:03 <akira_arma> well the latest gcc build randomly crashed
11:03 <akira_arma> locked up windows
11:03 <akira_arma> changed to z-mans and had no prob so far
11:03 <epsy> well, you can fill up a bug report, but it might be already fixed
11:04 <epsy> detail the problem as precise as possible etc
11:04 <epsy> bbl
11:04 <akira_arma> well hard to tell if it locks up
11:04 <akira_arma> and randomly
11:04 <akira_arma> ;)
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12:00 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with man
12:00 <armabot> epsy: [00:44:04] <epsy> zmanuel, in AUTHORS i am still mentionned as a third-party contributor, I'm not sure if i am still meant to be there or not :)
12:00 <epsy> manuel_, ping :)
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13:34 <Flex> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/2600338708_1829b3fcac_o.jpg
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14:22 <madmax> nice photo :D
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17:49 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/whatsong.mp3 <--- what the hell is the name of that piece
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17:51 <StickyNoob> just sounds like someone messing around on a scale
17:52 <guru3> wow... i was expecting too much from irc
17:52 <StickyNoob> what is it?
17:53 <guru3> i don't know
17:53 <guru3> that's why i was asking on irc
17:53 <guru3> all i do know is that it's a piece of classical music
17:55 <guru3> JS Bach Cantata 147
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19:59 <xfroggy> lol so today italy winning :D
20:08 <madmax> yep
20:09 <luke-jr> xfroggy: 12 Angry Men
20:10 <luke-jr> [12:41:07] <Ziggy_Sawdust> █▄ █▄█ █▄ ▀█▄ █▄█▄█ █▄█ ▀█▀
20:10 <luke-jr> -.-
20:10 <Flex> i'm going with spain
20:10 <madmax> watch out, you lost yesterday
20:10 <Flex> yes but i was right with turkey
20:16 <madmax> #eightball will italy win in today's match?
20:16 <armabot> madmax: You know the answer better than I.
20:17 <madmax> well, hmmm
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20:23 <xfroggy> luke-jr, I love that movie
20:33 <Flex> actually i would bet if i could be bothered to register or go out to the betting shop
20:33 <Flex> i'd probably betting every game
20:36 <FoFoLiNo> X-.-
20:36 <xfroggy> Oo
20:36 <xfroggy> :p
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23:56 <akira_arma> #tea
23:56 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): MonsterChad
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...