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Log from 2008-06-01:
--- Day changed Sun Jun 01 2008
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01:45 <madmax> #tea
01:45 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): /dev/null/h4ck, Player 1, Radian, z3r0
01:45  * madmax goes
01:55 <epsy> #tea
01:55 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): /dev/null/h4ck, hka4ck, madmax (madmax@forums), Player 1, Radian, z3r0, ~"XzL.Punish
01:57 <akira_arma> oh
01:57 <akira_arma> #tea
01:57 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): /dev/null/h4ck, hka4ck, madmax (madmax@forums), Player 1, Radian, z3r0, ~"XzL.Punish
01:57 <epsy> ..lol..
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02:56 <Flex> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/comcast-hijacke.html
03:00 <akira_arma> #tea
03:00 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
03:00 <ct|kyle> akira_arma: it lies
03:00 <ct|kyle> old data
03:01 <akira_arma> you sure?
03:01 <ct|kyle> This data is 41376 seconds old
03:01 <ct|kyle> #armaplayers
03:01 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
03:01 <armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 33 seconds old; Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), Wild West  =Sumo= (9/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Swampland Mud Puddle (8/8), ~\Auctorita Clan DF Server/~ (8/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (6/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6/12), Strawberry Fields (5/16), Norm's Place (5/12), The Tavern (5/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (1 more message)
03:01 <ct|kyle> #more
03:01 <armabot> ct|kyle: (4/12), Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!) (2/16), |FA| BLACK ICE (2/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (2/10), |FA| Clan Server - Devils Rings! (1/16), ~Rivers of Zadda~ (1/10), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (1/12), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (1/16)
03:02 <akira_arma> it didnt lie..
03:02 <ct|kyle> maybe not
03:02 <ct|kyle> hmmm now why is Ct's so outdated
03:03 <Flex> because somethings up with the source
03:04 <ct|kyle> because Wrtl's server is too slow
03:06 <ct|kyle> --- wrtlprnft.ath.cx ping statistics ---
03:06 <ct|kyle> 36 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 35078ms
03:07 <ct|kyle> #help armaservers
03:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: (armaservers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/armaservers.php".
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04:34 <Lucifer> z-man-work: ping
04:36 <akira_arma> Lucifer: pong
04:36 <Lucifer> you're not z-man
04:36 <akira_arma> Aww how did you found out?
04:45 <Flex> lol
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11:50 <spidey> #ping
11:50 <armabot> pong
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13:48 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: pingy
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14:27 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: power went down, my ip changed
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14:30 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: updated the DNS record, gonna need up to four hours to update
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16:16 <K-Yo> #cfg game_type
16:16 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
16:16 <K-Yo> oh
16:16 <K-Yo> right
16:17 <epsy> game_type 0 = no winner
16:17 <epsy> 1 = winnar
16:17 <epsy> K-Yo,
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16:27 <K-Yo> k merci
16:27 <K-Yo> epsy, in what case do we want "no winner" ?
16:40 <epsy> K-Yo, sumo
16:42 <K-Yo> okay je vois, c'est pour les kills quoi
16:42 <K-Yo> merci
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16:48 <epsy> K-Yo, ??
16:48 <K-Yo> quoi?
16:48 <epsy> <K-Yo> okay je vois, c'est pour les kills quoi
16:48 <K-Yo> bah c'est pas ca?
16:48 <epsy> saveut dire koi deja
16:49 <K-Yo> en sumo t'as pas nécessairement de vainqueur pour le round pke t'es pas obligé de tuer
16:49 <K-Yo> vu qu'il y a plusieurs zones
16:49 <epsy> game_type 0 = jamais de gagnant
16:57 <deja_vu> does anyone have an idea why gnuplot displays g(x) = 1/(sqrt(2*pi)*1.85)*e**(-1/2*((x-3.16)/1.85)^2) as constant Oo
16:58 <deja_vu> x being in [0,15]
17:28 <K-Yo> erm
17:29 <K-Yo> isn't it obvious?
17:32 <K-Yo> deja_vu, maple doesn't
17:32 <wrtlprnft> that's a function alright
17:32 <K-Yo> hi wrtl
17:32 <wrtlprnft> some sort of gaussian curve
17:33 <K-Yo> right
17:34 <K-Yo> you just guessed that by reading it? :P
17:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:43 <wrtlprnft> constant factor times e to the power some constant times something linear involving x squared
17:44 <wrtlprnft> *to the power of
17:47 <deja_vu> somehow it doesn't like the -1/2
17:47 <deja_vu> -0.5 does the trick -.-
17:51 <K-Yo> -.-
17:52 <deja_vu> i hope that wasn't obvious?
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18:55 <xfroggy> <ta-da>
18:55 <flashyy> hi x!
18:56 <xfroggy> flashy <):D
18:56 <flashyy> Y:c
18:56 <P4> yo
18:56 <xfroggy> xD
18:56 <xfroggy> hey P4 :)
18:57 <P4> brb ;)
18:57 <P4> or even bbl
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18:59 <K-Yo> xfroggy, online? o_O
19:00 <epsy>  obviousely not
19:23 <epsy> wrtlprnft, THE weird mismatch
19:29 <epsy> it still exists yeah :(
19:32 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
19:32 <epsy> wrtlprnft, try yourself
19:32 <wrtlprnft> what?
19:35 <epsy> mismatch : 88.198.22.100:4539 != 88.198.22.100:35160
19:35 <epsy> it's probably the bug i posted some time ago on launchpad with no info on it
19:36 <epsy> probably the last big bug before 0.2.8.3
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19:46 <epsy> 0.2.8 (13) can still auth
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20:49 <epsy> er, what does it mean when m.SenderID() == 0 ?
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21:06 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i think it means that the server sent it
21:06 <wrtlprnft> 0 is the server usually
21:07 <epsy> hm
21:07 <epsy> bbl anyway, match
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23:46 <luke-jr> epsy: looks liek that stupid useless control port
23:54 <epsy> yeah, but how does it end here?
23:54 <epsy> #night
23:54 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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Log from 2008-06-02:
--- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2008
00:13 <K-Yo> #later tell epsy le spy de votre serveur est réglé sur 'remote user' très probalbement
00:13 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
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05:58 <Lucifer> scorched3d?
05:58 <akira_arma> ?
06:09 <Lucifer> you never played scorched3d?
06:11 <akira_arma> no
06:11 <Lucifer> oh man, you gotta play it :)
06:11 <Lucifer> 3d artillery game
06:12  * Lucifer is playing single player right now
07:04 <Lucifer> homemade wine is so awesome
07:10 <akira_arma> ............
07:10 <akira_arma> go make me jealous
07:10 <Lucifer> haha
07:11 <Lucifer> I got two bottles, and put a gallon in the fridge to clarify, and another gallon in the closet
07:11 <Lucifer> wow, this thing electric turtle made is pretty cool
07:11 <Lucifer> I want to know that this is him playing guitar
07:11 <Lucifer> http://slowwavesleep.com/alert/ALERT!.mp3
07:12 <Lucifer> listen to it, it's his submission for an arma soundtrack
07:12 <Lucifer> oh wait, I actually got 3 1/2 bottles, but I'm drinking 1 1/2 right now, so I'll have two up for storage
07:12 <akira_arma> why would you need an arma soundtrack?
07:12 <Lucifer> I'm really enjoying this, man, so fucking listen to it
07:12 <Lucifer> :)
07:13 <akira_arma> wtf 31MB
07:13 <Lucifer> yeah, I've already got some comments on that :)
07:13 <akira_arma> 512 kbits encoded or what?
07:13 <akira_arma> ;)
07:13 <Lucifer> 22:54 of music
07:13 <Lucifer> holy shit!
07:14 <Lucifer> well, I know what I'm doing this summer
07:14 <akira_arma> btw I command you to send me 1 bottle immediately
07:14 <Lucifer> I'm finishing my fucking sound engine
07:14 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma a couple of bottles of wine
07:14 <armabot> I have sent a couple of bottles of wine to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
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07:15 <akira_arma> #slap Lucifer
07:15 <armabot> akira_arma slaps Lucifer for being a raving moron.
07:15 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma a nuclear bomb
07:15 <armabot> I have sent a nuclear bomb to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
07:15  * Lucifer needs another glass of wine
07:15 <Lucifer> you know, it's not so hard to make, you could make some of your own
07:16  * akira_arma loves applewine
07:17 <Lucifer> this is honeydew melon wine :)
07:17 <wrtlprnft> #help send
07:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (send <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo I have sent $* to $1, it should arrive shortly.".
07:17 <Lucifer> oh good, a developer
07:17 <Lucifer> hey wrtlprnft (hi there!)
07:17 <wrtlprnft> hi
07:17 <Lucifer> http://slowwavesleep.com/alert/ALERT!.mp3
07:17 <Lucifer> listen to that
07:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah, already streaming it
07:18 <Lucifer> it's electric turtle's submission for an arma sountrack
07:18 <Lucifer> ok, good :)
07:18 <akira_arma> i bet its no good :(
07:18 <Lucifer> obviously it needs to be split up into smaller files and encoded with ogg vorbis, but those are minor details
07:18 <wrtlprnft> it's nice in fact
07:18 <Lucifer> I am *really* enjoying it
07:19 <Lucifer> it's got a really good mix of heavy rock playing and techno that matches the game very nicely
07:19 <akira_arma> ok i take my last statement back
07:19 <akira_arma> ;)
07:19 <Lucifer> in case y'all are wondering, he PM'ed it to me instead of posting for all to see
07:20 <akira_arma> needs a bit polishing tho
07:20 <akira_arma> some parts are a bit repetetive
07:20 <Lucifer> it needs to be broken up into parts, I think
07:20 <Lucifer> well, consider that the sound engine will order the tracks
07:20 <Lucifer> this is just a mix of everything
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07:20 <Lucifer> I assume he's read my looooooooooooooooooooooooong post on the subject
07:20 <Lucifer> I'm going to direct him to it anyway
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07:23 <Lucifer> man, this music is freaking awesome
07:23 <Lucifer> I want to see how he's broken it down
07:26 <Lucifer> he needs to come to austin so we can jam
07:26 <Lucifer> I'm hearing a kindred soul here :)
07:32 <Lucifer> ok, we're nearing the end of the big mp3, what do you guys think of it?
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07:33  * Lucifer just heard the end of it
07:33  * Lucifer will grab a smoke, then come back and read your comments, if there are any
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07:43 <Lucifer> ok, no comments, so I'm taking this to the forums :)
07:45 <akira_arma> ....
07:45 <Lucifer> still listening?
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08:08 <Lucifer> zmanuel: ping
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08:21 <Lucifer> man, I'm drunk, heh
08:21  * Lucifer has had a little too much of the homebrew
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10:23 <epsy> one good news and one bad news
10:24 <epsy> the good news is that that mismatch bug is reproductible
10:24 <epsy> the bad news is that i did not find out how, even trough i was able to reproduce it at some point, meh
10:28 <wrtlprnft> that's not the definition of “reproducible”
10:28 <wrtlprnft> reproducible means you can name a sequence of actions that always causes the bug to appear
10:29 <epsy> there is one
10:36 <Lucifer> then please, tell us
10:37 <epsy> i've posted a log snipplet on lp
10:37 <epsy> and, ah, does 0.2.8(13) clients have the check ?
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10:41 <epsy> right, i've posted 2 log snipplets
10:41 <epsy> but i'm not awake enough yet to do anything with them
10:41 <epsy> brbr, shower :P
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12:24 <epsy> #time
12:24 <armabot> epsy: 12:24 PM, June 02, 2008
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14:03 <Flex> how do i block a port so this bitch ass leecher on my torrent doesn't get my upload :(
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14:49 <Flex> hey wrtlprnft here?
14:51 <wrtlprnft> why?
14:51 <Flex> do you have forum admins? :p i kinda made my account "inactive"
14:52 <wrtlprnft> forums.aa.net? gotta ask tank aka guru3 
14:53 <Flex> guru3, ping
14:53 <Flex> thanks
14:54 <wrtlprnft> yw
14:54 <Flex> i changed my email and it made me inactive wth..
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16:23 <spidey_> #ping
16:23 <armabot> pong
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18:10 <epsy> wrtlprnft, um, i will need a litle help oncompiling arma with zthreads support, can you give me a hint?
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19:04 <epsy> ..or anyone that has managed to get it working on gentoo..
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20:31 <noob13> have you tried installing zthreads with --prefix=/usr/ ?
20:49 <epsy> i'm using zthreads from my package manager
20:49 <epsy> so i guess it's installed with --prefix=/usr
20:50 <epsy> i'll check brb
20:50 <epsy> $ zthread-config --prefix
20:50 <epsy> er
20:50 <epsy> $ zthread-config --prefix
20:50 <epsy> oh
20:50 <epsy>  /usr
20:51 <epsy> samewith --exec_prefix
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22:34 <wrtlprnft> epsy: what's going wrong?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> try CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive
22:37 <epsy> doesn't work
22:37 <epsy> looking at config.log right now
22:38 <epsy> tons of errors
22:41 <epsy> oh wait, i am using dev-libs/zthread-2.3.1
22:45 <epsy> looks like working, thanks
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22:47 <wrtlprnft> yw
22:49 <epsy> dang, this DNS issue hassles me even while playing back recordings
22:51 <Lucifer_pen> then don't do the thing that causes the dns issue
22:52 <epsy> trying over and over always finishes by resolving by me
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00:05 <madmax> #armaservers
00:05 <armabot> madmax: This data is 40 seconds old; - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (10/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (9/10), Norm's Place (9/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (8/14), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (8/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (7/10), Fortress Café (7/32), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (6/12), |Forgotten Warriors~ Clan (2 more messages)
00:05 <madmax> #tea
00:05 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): CT_emmy, eddiefantastic, Flex, Lackadaisical, Mirai, sine.wav, °SUI°NiNjA
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01:16 <akira_arma> #tea
01:16 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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02:13 <akira_arma> holy freakin ....
02:14 <akira_arma> If humanity would be as ingenious as they are ind esigning new pc games in other fields...
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18:13 <spidey_> #ping
18:13 <armabot> pong
18:17 <akira_arma> #tea
18:17 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:25 <epsy> http://goosh.org/
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22:31 <wrtlprnft> neat
22:31 <wrtlprnft> although i don't really see any resemblance to a unix shell
22:34 <P4> #42 http://files.aktivist.pl/viThumb/wydarzenia/135594_full.jpg
22:34 <armabot> P4: http://42.pl/u/GvJ
22:34 <P4> oh, i mean: Hi! :þ
22:34 <akira_arma> #tea
22:34 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): /dev/null/s4ck, <V>23, <V»»BÚ|_|_3T»», CTxTadd, eggcozy, Klouteren, pavelo (pavelo@forums), ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~|Alien|~, ¦×¦Raiden, °°pixel
22:36  * wrtlprnft wonders about the point of #42
22:36 <epsy> i do too
22:37 <epsy> #42 data:text/plain:hi!
22:37 <armabot> epsy: http://42.pl/u/GvP
22:37 <wrtlprnft> well, the uri already was on irc
22:38 <wrtlprnft> #42 data:text/plain,hi!
22:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://42.pl/u/GvQ
22:38 <wrtlprnft> weird redirection
22:38 <epsy> uhoh
22:38 <epsy> indeed
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22:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft, have you looked over that mismatch bug?
22:42 <epsy> i think i'm taking it from the wrong perpective
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22:43 <epsy> until now i've been trying to see where did the calls that generated these lines:
22:43 <epsy> [0] nSocket::CloseClosing socket bound to *.*.*.*:37662
22:44 <epsy> er
22:44 <epsy> [0] Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:37662 *
22:44 <wrtlprnft> i don't have a lot of time at the moment, sorry :-(
22:44 <epsy> my biggest problem is that i don't know anything of this part
22:45 <epsy> now i don't get how i get that message without a message stipulating the binding to that address
22:46 <epsy> i probably wasn't very well-minded and didn't use a debugger to do a backtrace, meh :P
22:46 <epsy> [0] nBasicNetworkSystem::Shutdown
22:46 <epsy> [0] Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:4537
22:46 <epsy> [0] nSocket::~nSocket
22:46 <epsy> [0] Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:37662
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22:47 <epsy> that's the most i've got about it
22:48 <epsy> the first two lines are ok, but i have no clue what triggers that second line
22:48 <wrtlprnft> I don't know any code in that area, either :-(
22:48 <epsy> i guess it has to be there, but a little more silent
22:48 <wrtlprnft> really need z-man 
22:48 <epsy> and that most probably, this port doesn't come from nowhere
22:49 <epsy> by scrolling up i see it's not the port i'm using ( [1 IP=82.227.65.72:41281] )
22:49 <z-man> hmm?
22:49 <epsy> and i don't know any of these parts enough to make a plausible hypothesis
22:50 <z-man> The second socket is the "client" socket.
22:50 <epsy> yes, i guess it is
22:50 <epsy> except that i'm not connected to that port
22:51 <epsy> well, ah
22:51 <z-man> No, you aren't, it's not used on the server.
22:51 <z-man> Apart from connections to the master if the server socket somehow does not work.
22:51 <z-man> I think.
22:51 <epsy> right after the config got loaded, i have this: [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:37662.
22:51 <z-man> Yep.
22:51 <epsy> i noticed one master was timing out
22:53 <epsy> yes, after the server sent the password request and that i logged out, it timed out trying to reach master 1
22:53 <epsy> which was the first on the list
22:53 <epsy> at a second try it seems it reached
22:53 <epsy> and there it changed ports
22:55 <epsy> right after the [0] Login information sent. Waiting for reply... message
22:55 <epsy> (for info i'm using the recording i posted on LP)
22:56 <epsy> are these messages ( [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:37662 ) supposed to appear on the log?
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23:02 <fonkay> are the forums down for everyone?
23:03 <epsy> i see, they are normal, altrough i guess they should not become sn_myAddress
23:03 <epsy> fonkay, same for me
23:05 <epsy> z-man, how do i know who is sending an nMessage ?
23:05 <z-man> SenderID()?
23:06 <epsy> what do i do with the then ? :P
23:06 <z-man> Dunno, that's the ID of the client :)
23:06 <epsy> oh right
23:06 <z-man> What other info do you want?
23:07 <epsy> er, what's the function to find the actual client from it's ID?
23:07 <z-man> There is no actual client, the ID is all there is.
23:07 <z-man> It's the number from 1 to MAXCLIENTS
23:08 <z-man> in nNetwork.h are some global functions to get to the IP, if you want that.
23:08 <epsy> ok
23:08 <epsy> um, and also, if i got it right, the server is in client mode when calling master servers, rightN
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23:09 <epsy> s/N/?
23:10 <z-man> right.
23:10 <epsy> okay
23:13 <epsy> if i want to know where did my test server connect from and with what port, i'll need my own master server, right?
23:14 <epsy> oh, and also, i've took the decision to have a --enable-dedicated option to the configure script,but still letting the confusing --no-glout in place, is there any problem with that?
23:15 <epsy> sorry if i am asking much questions, i'm going to sleep and ithink i'll need to keep things clear in my mind :)
23:27 <epsy> well, you seem as tired as me, i guess i'll figure that out myself :)
23:27 <epsy> good night
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Log from 2008-06-04:
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00:28 <armabot> pkgsrc-wip: hoka_adam * wip/Makefile: Add armagetronad.
00:30 <Lucifer_pen> looks like that's for http://pkgsrc-wip.sourceforge.net/
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00:41 <Flex> #tell guru3 here?
00:41 <Flex> #ping
00:41 <armabot> pong
00:42 <Flex> #later guru3 hello?
00:43 <Lucifer_pen> #later tell Flex this is how you do it
00:43 <armabot> Lucifer_pen: The operation succeeded.
00:43 <Flex> oh yeah right
00:43 <Flex> #later tell guru3 hey? speak to me when you read this. thanks
00:43 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
00:43 <Flex> thanks^
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00:45 <Lucifer_pen> #later tell Flex np, anytime.
00:45 <armabot> Lucifer_pen: The operation succeeded.
00:45 <Lucifer_pen> #m Flex this can also be used, iirc.  ;)
00:45 <armabot> Lucifer_pen: The operation succeeded.
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00:45 <Flex> Lucifer_pen, do you have forum admin? could you assist me with something on the forums
00:45 <Lucifer_pen> I don't have forum admin
01:02 <akira_arma> #tea
01:02 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:02 <akira_arma> :(
01:02 <akira_arma> #slap Lucifer
01:02 <armabot> akira_arma slaps Lucifer for being a raving moron.
01:03 <akira_arma> still waiting for that homemade wine....
01:14 <StickyNoob> #tea
01:14 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:14 <StickyNoob> dam americans not filling out the servers late night
01:17 <Flex> some how my forum account went inactive.. maybe because i changed my email and i didn't get the activate link
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01:18 <Flex> or some bullshit like that
02:10 <Lucifer_pen> #send akira_noob another bottle of wine
02:10 <armabot> I have sent another bottle of wine to akira_noob, it should arrive shortly.
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04:37 <Lucifer_arma> #send akira_arma another bottle of wine
04:37 <armabot> I have sent another bottle of wine to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
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05:10 <spidey_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtkDpYlySRM&feature=related
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> is that dork you, spidey?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll plug in headphones and listen to it
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think of 20 inch rims when I masturbate
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9dLksw2p0&feature=related
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> who wants to catholic my balls?
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05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I can outfunny that guy
06:11 <spidey_> u
06:18 <akira_arma> I
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06:30 <spidey_> http://www.break.com/index/hotel-front-desk-prank-call.html
06:30 <spidey_> LOL
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> obama's claiming the nomination
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> i can hear the saturated fight that is falling off your fat-ass face, haha
07:25 <akira_arma> does it make any sense going to elect in US anyways?
07:25 <akira_arma> besides Ron Paul
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it does, as long as you don't elect that crackpot from Texas
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey_: the caller's the one who got pranked
07:26 <akira_arma> well
07:26 <akira_arma> they are interchangable
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> who is?
07:26 <akira_arma> major 3
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> McCain, Obama, and Clinton?
07:27 <akira_arma> at least when it comes to foreign policy
07:27 <akira_arma> i dont follow internal policies though
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> luckily, that's not all that's on the plate this time
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, you're american, right?
07:27 <akira_arma> no
07:27 <akira_arma> lol
07:27 <akira_arma> God forbid that
07:27 <akira_arma> ;)
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh, ok.  :)
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, we're experience some of the effects of the No Child Left Behind Act, and while I was interested in McCain before,
07:28 <akira_arma> O.o
07:28 <akira_arma> WTF lucifer ;)
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> if he keeps standing on "let's punish schools who can't force every kid to be normal", I'm a vote for Obama
07:29 <akira_arma> well i am certianly not amused by the coming war..
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> Hillary's right, teachers are only teaching the standardized tests, filling kids' heads up with useless isolated memorized facts so they can answer multiple choice questions on the subject
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> look, we're not going to invade AkiraLand, ok?  ;)
07:29 <akira_arma> no
07:29 <akira_arma> but iran
07:30 <akira_arma> not invade
07:30 <akira_arma> tho
07:30 <akira_arma> but bombarding is pretty liekly
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think McCain's playing the "I won't surrender in Iraq" card mostly to keep support of conservatives
07:30 <akira_arma> likely
07:30 <akira_arma> well that attack will come before bush leaves
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> no, well, ok
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> I really don't see military commanders assenting to such an attack
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> not when they can see what's coming up
07:31 <akira_arma> sure but some got replaced
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> maybe they'll play the "we have to wait for the bombs to be built" card, but they'll delay it
07:31 <akira_arma> nah
07:31 <akira_arma> the'll fake something
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> one guy resigned because he made an ass out of the administration he's supposed to serve
07:31 <akira_arma> like they never did that before
07:31 <akira_arma> actually thats only half of the story lucifer
07:31 <akira_arma> he was persuaded for several months
07:32 <akira_arma> but having free and objective sources on such stuff is hard to come by
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> persuaded to do what?
07:32 <akira_arma> w/o sources
07:32 <akira_arma> having*
07:32 <akira_arma> resign
07:33 <akira_arma> anyways
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's true, I was responding to the "sure but some got replaced" comment
07:33 <akira_arma> ah
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only bigwig that's being replaced, and it's resulted in everybody moving up a notch
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> so Petraeus actually has more power than he had before
07:33 <akira_arma> well I still think they'll drop some bombs
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, the guy let Bush cut his balls off
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> he was a good general before Bush got his hands on him
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> no, they won't do anything with Iran until after the election
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> McCain's been pretty hawkish toward Iran, too
07:34 <akira_arma> i differ
07:34 <akira_arma> my sources say diff *
07:34 <akira_arma> ;)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> feel free to differ, but I'm curious what your sources are :)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> you're not GOrdon Brown, are you?
07:34 <akira_arma> www.capaigniran.org/casmii
07:34 <akira_arma> campaign
07:34 <akira_arma> sorry
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> Firefox can't find the server at www.capaigniran.org.
07:35 <akira_arma> www.campaigniran.org/casmii
07:35 <akira_arma> pretty good linked and quoted
07:35 <akira_arma> of course its not the holy grail of objectiveness
07:35 <akira_arma> hardly anything can claim that
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> man, this can't even claim to be even a little bit objective :)
07:36 <akira_arma> well it is
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> About 6 in 10 Americans (59%) think it would be a good idea for the president of the United States to meet with the president of Iran. This includes about half of Republicans, a majority of independents, and most Democrats.
07:36 <akira_arma> well you should always check the sources
07:36 <akira_arma> of the articles
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> if that information is true, or more importantly, you're willing to accept it as true, that is actually the reason I don't think the current administration will fuck with Iran
07:37 <akira_arma> of course some are to be doubted
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> Most americans, near as I can tell, don't want a general war in the middle east
07:37 <akira_arma> yes
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> we want to either "finish the job" in Iraq, or pull out, but leave the region alone
07:38 <akira_arma> but since when did your governemnt care
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07:38 <Lucifer_arma> Invading Iran, or bombing Iran, would provoke a general war in the middle east
07:38 <akira_arma> yes
07:38 <akira_arma> thats what israel wants
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> we've ejected federal governments that ignored us before, what makes you think we wont' do it this time?
07:38 <akira_arma> so they can finally claim supreme reign
07:38 <akira_arma> over it
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> Israel doesn't run the US!
07:38 <akira_arma> but has a large lobby
07:38 <akira_arma> up to the highest places
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> if you haven't noticed, even Bush has been saying Israel should recognize Palestine
07:39 <akira_arma> i also noticed his backup
07:39 <akira_arma> for israel
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07:39 <akira_arma> like hillarys
07:39 <akira_arma> which was even more "constructive"
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> probably the only good thing this administration has done in foreign policy is support palestinian independence and/or represantation in Jerusalem
07:39 <akira_arma> LOL
07:39 <akira_arma> nvm
07:40 <akira_arma> i wont get into a discussion about that again
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> Now, BUsh hates Hamas, says they're terrorists, but his fundamental stand is "Palestinians should decide for themselves"
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> he just doesn't like Hamas :)
07:40  * Lucifer_arma disagrees with Bush, as usual, and is happy to recognize Hamas
07:40 <akira_arma> he can say what he wants
07:40 <akira_arma> and act otherwise
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> nah, he's not Bill Clinton, he'd never get away with that :)
07:41 <akira_arma> didnt he get away with it?
07:41 <akira_arma> like iraq?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> once upon a time, but he's lost his republican support
07:41 <akira_arma> like 9/11?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you haven't noticed, and it's ok if you haven't, but McCain is a Democrat that's wearing red right now
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> McCain's platform is far to the left of Bush that it's amazing he won the nomination at all
07:41 <akira_arma> i am pretty sure that like 90% of the mass media in Us is under control
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> Hell, McCain was one of the first republicans, if not the first, to defect from Bush back in 06 or 05
07:42 <akira_arma> at least the major broadcasting stations
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> Fox gives a conservative bias, since the rest gives a liberal bias
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what you're reading, but most of what I'm reading is extremely criticial of Bush
07:42 <akira_arma> you can say
07:42 <akira_arma> FOX lies
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> and these days I'm reaidng mostly US sources
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> Fox doesn't intentionally lie.  :)  They just repeat verbatim and without question whatever Bush says ;)
07:43 <akira_arma> thats lying
07:43 <akira_arma> nvm
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> it's repeating lies :)
07:43 <akira_arma> = lying
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> if I tell you the sky is red, and you believe me, and you tell someone else the sky is red, did you lie?
07:43 <akira_arma> and i am pretty sure some people in charge know that
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, Scott McClellan is all over the news right now
07:44 <akira_arma> maybe the normal TV reporter doesnt
07:44 <akira_arma> and i dont care for him
07:44 <akira_arma> because he is "repating"
07:44 <akira_arma> repeating*
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> Fox is the mouthpiece of the Republican Party, they might as well be run by Rush Limbaugh
07:44 <akira_arma> such stations should be forbidden
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> why?
07:45 <akira_arma> media has to be objective
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> pretty much all the other news sources are liberally biased
07:45 <akira_arma> else you dont allow people to make an informed decision
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> the media will never be objective, and it *never* has been
07:45 <akira_arma> i mean ideally
07:45 <akira_arma> but fox is simply lying
07:45 <akira_arma> thats not good
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> we don't live in an ideal world, we have to deal with practical reality
07:45 <akira_arma> SIGH
07:45 <akira_arma> so continue with the clusterfuck till it blows up
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> and the practical reality is that to reach objectivity, you really need multiple viewpoints
07:46 <akira_arma> ..
07:46 <akira_arma> republican view is no valid viewpoint
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you're talking to a guy that reads non-US sources just to get different viewpoints, mind you
07:46 <akira_arma> because it threatens the survival or our species
07:46 <akira_arma> of*
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> many republicans have valid concerns, that if properly addressed, will result in good things for all
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is in the implementation, not in the concerns
07:46 <akira_arma> ...
07:46 <akira_arma> if you say so
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> it's a fact that we were attacked by radical muslims, and it's a problem we have to address
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I happpen to think we should address it by cutting off relations with muslim nations for a couple of years, then starting fresh
07:47 <akira_arma> you were .. but your agencies simply allowed it
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> our agencies were already pretty well straight-jacketed by concerns of privacy
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> look
07:47 <akira_arma> it was widely known that radical groups planned such a thing
07:48 <luke-jr> I happen to think we should nuke Israel so nobody wants to fight over it.
07:48 <akira_arma> :O
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> before you get all crazy about it, I'm willing to *be* one of the casualties in a terrorist attack in order to let our agencies not prevent it and protect privacy
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> knowing that the FBI couldn't share data with the NSA because of privacy protections, I would have walked into the WTC and gotten killed
07:48 <akira_arma> And there are also theories of an inside job
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> whack-job theories, yeah :)
07:48 <akira_arma> which isnt that way off
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> use occam's razor as much as possible when following the helicopter guys
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> the only theory that makes sense to me is that Bush funded the attacks
07:49 <akira_arma> if you see how suplementary that incident was for the policy of bush
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> ?  his policy before that had nothing to do with the middle east
07:49 <akira_arma> lol..
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> he was narrowly focused on relations with Mexico
07:49 <akira_arma> are you really saying that?
07:50 <akira_arma> there were plans to get into the mideast forever
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> I am, but I want to qualify it by pointing out that his family has had relations with middle eastern oil drillers for decades
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not really possible to say Bush had no interest in it
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07:50 <Lucifer_arma> look, if you want me to defend Bush, I'm going to hate you forever, and that would be sad because I like you
07:50 <akira_arma> eh
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> so pleeeease don't put me in the position of defending Bush
07:50 <akira_arma> :D
07:50 <akira_arma> nono
07:50 <akira_arma> i dont
07:50 <akira_arma> i am just weary
07:51 <akira_arma> if my present environemtn
07:51 <akira_arma> of*Ü
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Trust me, then.  We're not going to fuck with Iran in Bush's lame duck period
07:51 <akira_arma> arrr frekin keys
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> we've got enough checks and balances to prevent that, at least
07:51 <akira_arma> i am not sure
07:51 <akira_arma> yes
07:51 <akira_arma> but i am not sure
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Then dont' be sure, and just wait for the election :)
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> Obama's favored to win right now
07:51 <akira_arma> i didnt think they would do it to yugoslawia
07:51 <akira_arma> but they did
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> and *he* wants to talk to Iran
07:52 <akira_arma> i didnt think they'd do it to iraq
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> Yugoslavia *needed* to be stopped
07:52 <akira_arma> WTF
07:52 <akira_arma> lol
07:52 <akira_arma> thats bs
07:52 <akira_arma> total
07:52 <akira_arma> bs
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I was pretty sure they'd hit iraq, as dumb as it was
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> now I have to ask you, where are you from?
07:52 <akira_arma> germany
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok
07:52 <akira_arma> i know a bit better what happened there
07:53 <akira_arma> i also know about fake claims our foreign minister presented
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not going to pretend the US did a bang up job in Yugoslavia, but last time I checked, there was international consensus that there was genocide in Yugoslavia,
07:53 <akira_arma> etcetc
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> and that NATO made the right move
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> NATO isn't US + Germany
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> in case you were wondering
07:53 <akira_arma> it just happened to be in querope
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> it's US + a bunch of other countries
07:53 <akira_arma> and
07:53 <akira_arma> it wasnt THAT bad
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> women, children, and other non-combatants were rounded up into camps and slaughtered
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad enough for you?
07:54 <akira_arma> i happen to think that they wanted to finish off a socialist state
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> I'm wiling to take up guns myself to fight that
07:54 <akira_arma> i sure think there were bad treatsm,ents
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> the communist yugoslav state was already gone at that point
07:54 <akira_arma> but they happen everywhere
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> not just bad, people being rounded up into camps, women raped, then everybody killed
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> *both* sides were doing it!
07:55 <akira_arma> so kill some more
07:55 <akira_arma> ...
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> it's not like we had a particular bad guy we were after, we wanted the stupid killing to stop so the regular war could proceed as usual
07:55 <akira_arma> bs
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> what would you prefer?  We sit aside and let the killing continue?
07:55 <akira_arma> they wanted to balcanaize anotehr country
07:55 <akira_arma> and get footholds
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> That wasn't a US-only move, either
07:55 <akira_arma> ...
07:55 <akira_arma> i know
07:55 <akira_arma> susal NATO military game
07:55 <akira_arma> usual
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'm willing to concede that the US came in with their own selfish interests in the establishment of the states afterwards
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm not willing to consider that we acted improperly in our initial action
07:56 <akira_arma> and these "freedom" strikes will always lead to more violence
07:56 <akira_arma> always
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> there was multilateral support for the actions, and it wasn't about freedom
07:56 <akira_arma> man
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> it was about stopping the concentration camps
07:56 <akira_arma> well guess you wont understand me
07:57 <akira_arma> violence always precedes violence
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> look, we objected to Spain's concentration policy in Cuba once upon a time
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> it took violence to stop your Hitler, and it took violence to stop Napolean
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> sometimes you have to fight
07:57 <akira_arma> BS
07:57 <akira_arma> :)
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, let's just let Napolean walk all over Europe
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of world would that leave you in?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, I *like* Napolean :)
07:58 <akira_arma> you dont know and i either
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> true, but the alliance that defeated him made for a stronger Europe, for atime
07:58 <akira_arma> i mean those guys used violence too
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> and it has all led to the Europen Union
07:58 <akira_arma> so they caused violence
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm really freaking excited about the EU
07:58 <akira_arma> bah
07:58 <akira_arma> i am not
07:58 <akira_arma> its another mean to make the rich richer
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd like the EU to form under good conditions, but the idea that all these regions that have pretty much been at war with one another for 3000 years coming together as one nation is really awesome
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> not even the US can claim that sort of peacemaking :)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my only real point is that sometimes you fight, and sometimes you talk
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> we no doubt agree that Iran is a "talk" situation
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> we probably agree for the most part on what US foreign policy should look like right now, you just amazingly are more cynical abouty US government than I am
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> and I didn't think that was possible
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> but after the fiasco that is Iraq, this administration couldn't talk us into military exercises in Alabama
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> any new military action will wait until after the election, Bush is a lame duck, and his generals and top military commanders will still be there after the election,
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> and they're not going to throw away their careers at this point
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> and right this minute, I want Obama to win
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted him to win a year ago, and was told he wasn't even a remote possibility, and here he's got the nomination
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm damned excited
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09:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9710
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12:21 <akira_arma> Take what Clinton said in February at an AIPAC meeting in New York: "Israel is a beacon of what's right in a neighborhood overshadowed by the wrongs of radicalism, extremism, despotism and terrorism." A year before, Clinton was in favor of sitting and talking to Iran's leadership.
12:22 <StickyNoob> endorsing a country and agreeing to speak to them are not the same thing
12:23 <akira_arma> just as an example for the lobbyism
12:24 <StickyNoob> probably more an example of vote grabbing
12:28 <StickyNoob> also remember the old political truth, a person who changes their mind after thinking about the issue in real life is a thoughtful considered person, a politician who does it is a weak flip flopper
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12:29 <StickyNoob> im not saying Clinton really did think and change her mind, i just think politicians should be allowed to change their mind without critasism
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12:56 <spidey_> And what about patches? Will people line up at schools for heart-implant fixes, like for today's flu shot? Will viruses distribute false patches, and infect body parts? Or an apocalyptic scenario: What if our cybernetic tools synchronized themselves with Outlook.
12:57 <spidey_> appearently it's possible to hack a pacemaker using wifi
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15:06 <akira_arma> http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-05-20-n15.html
15:44 <Flex> The internet was only one of many transfer technologies.
15:44 <Flex> ok
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20:42 <Lucifer> what's the point of two candidates fighting each other for the nomination and folks going down to pick if they're just going to wind up on the same ticket anyway?
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23:47 <epsy> so we can finally say armagetronad is child-proof! debian said it!
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01:22 <StickyNoob> can I ask Americans, have you ever heard or Fair Usage Policies for bandwidth from internet service providers?
01:23 <akira_arma> i have
01:23 <akira_arma> but i am german
01:24 <akira_arma> and my isp is enforcing such stuff on me ;)
01:24 <Flex> http://monkey.mastercontrolprogram.de/screenshots/hoax1.png
01:24 <Flex> was that a serious game?
01:24 <Flex> oops
01:24 <Flex> wrong place
01:25 <StickyNoob> yeah im just surprised: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/comcast-tests-a-new-bandwidth-black-list/index.html?ref=technology
01:25 <StickyNoob> that article seems to be saying its something new, been around UK for ages
01:26 <Flex> comcast been doing it longer then the uk has
01:26 <Flex> i think
01:26 <StickyNoob> not according to that
01:27 <Flex> it's probably a new tech they're implimenting, but bandwidth capping and p2p filtering.. they've done that for awhile
01:27 <Flex> i think..
01:27 <StickyNoob> bandwidth capping and p2p filtering is very different to fair use tho
01:28 <StickyNoob> akira_arma: in Germany are they required to define what "Fair Usage" means?
01:30 <Flex> in Germany they really don't need to worry about any of that i think.. their lines are all newish and sweet
01:31 <akira_arma> nah i am just limited to 50GB
01:31 <akira_arma> then 50% speed decrease
01:31 <akira_arma> freakin cable provider
01:31 <StickyNoob> so they do give you a definate number you cant go over?
01:32 <akira_arma> i can go
01:32 <akira_arma> but have to suffer 50% loss after that
01:32 <akira_arma> they sold me this as a full flat
01:32 <Flex> for a specific time period i guess
01:32 <Flex> like 5 hours
01:32 <akira_arma> i didnt check
01:32 <akira_arma> nah
01:32 <akira_arma> 1month
01:32 <akira_arma> ..
01:32 <akira_arma> well 1 year bound to a crap isp
01:32 <Flex> they slow you down for a whole month? :o
01:33 <StickyNoob> luxery, in the UK they choose an arbitary limit that you are not allowed to konw, and if you go over it your bandwidth is PERMINENTLY slashed
01:33 <Flex> why didn't you get the unlimited package
01:33 <StickyNoob> *know
01:33 <akira_arma> they dont have one!
01:33 <akira_arma> ..
01:33 <Flex> not perminently..
01:33 <Flex> just for afew hours for me
01:33 <StickyNoob> virgin?
01:33 <Flex> mines limited to something like 10-15gbs then it cuts to 85% decrease of speed for afew hours or more
01:33 <StickyNoob> virgin?
01:33 <Flex> yeah
01:33 <Flex> it says if you go over the "3%" of your local usage they cap you to 5mbs
01:33 <StickyNoob> yeah others do perminent
01:34 <Flex> if you're on the 20mb line
01:34 <Flex> BT just warns you that you're doing heavy usage
01:34 <StickyNoob> such as tiscali and talk talk
01:34 <Flex> when you bought the unlimited package
01:34 <Flex> so much for so called "unlimited"
01:34 <StickyNoob> yeah
01:34 <Flex> we pay insane prices and other countries are flying in gbit transfers
01:34 <StickyNoob> well trading standards are already investigating this
01:35 <Flex> i hope they fucking sort it out, we need to get back on..
01:35 <StickyNoob> i loved it when the ips blamed the BBC for the slow internet and then said the BBC owed them all money
01:35 <StickyNoob> *isp's
01:35 <Flex> fucking that was stupid
01:35 <Flex> if that went ahead against BCC.. then you know we're proper fucked
01:36 <Flex> is that case still on.. or did they drop it..
01:36 <StickyNoob> naa BBC told them to go fuck themselfs
01:37 <Flex> that was seriously stupid though, BBC pay quite a lot for their usage of bandwidth..
01:37 <Flex> and they want them to pay even more..
01:39 <StickyNoob> well its just the isps trying anything to avoid providing the service they sold
01:40 <Flex> they're just sitting around trying to suck as much money as they can till their shit gets over run and they get outages.. we need some serious investment into our lines not some stupid minor repairs..
01:41 <Flex> We want faster porno FFS!
01:42 <StickyNoob> problem is we wont stand for the nation wide road works to install the cable either
01:43 <StickyNoob> there is some company putting fiber through the sewers tho
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01:44 <Flex> yeah, been kind of following that
01:44 <Flex> that's something interesting, but kind of like something that seems as if it's going to turn into a dead end..
01:45 <Flex> they need to just start now and slowly remove all the old lines and put in new lines that can last at least 50years
01:45 <Flex> anyone with some insight into this can make big money if they just invested afew million doing up all of london
01:46 <Flex> you'd made it back as soon as everyone switches over to your isp
01:46 <StickyNoob> a few million?
01:46 <Flex> it's not going to go over half a million for sure
01:46 <StickyNoob> Flex: that is what ntl did. didnt do them much good
01:46 <StickyNoob> half a million???? are you nuts
01:46 <Flex> na, NTL didn't do that..
01:47 <Flex> oh sorry i meant half a billion
01:47 <Flex> can't go any higher then that
01:47 <StickyNoob> you couldnt plan the digging up of central london for £500k
01:47 <Flex> this is pocket money to some of these billionairs in london
01:47 <Flex> 500k for digging up a road in london?
01:47 <StickyNoob> ntl did install fiber through large parts of the uk
01:48 <Flex> so what's wrong now..
01:48 <Flex> why are they so backed up
01:48 <StickyNoob> its owned by virgin now
01:48 <Flex> why did they sell
01:49 <StickyNoob> they went bust
01:49 <StickyNoob> i think
01:50 <Flex> but still, any of the top 50 billionaires in london could do this easly
01:50 <Flex> this is like pocket money to them
01:51 <StickyNoob> if you are going to look at it like that there is probably far better things we can do with 500m than give londoners slightly faster internt
01:51 <StickyNoob> *internet
01:51 <Flex> like what
01:51 <StickyNoob> food
01:52 <StickyNoob> research into renewable energy
01:52 <Flex> they spent afew million on that stupid telescope near the mayors office
01:52 <Flex> hooking up to new york
01:52 <Flex> "teletroscope"
01:52 <Flex> or something
01:52 <StickyNoob> yeah but you seem to be saing the billionares should do it almost as a charity donation to londoners
01:52 <Flex> na investment
01:52 <Flex> come on now, everyone will switch
01:53 <Flex> who will take shit from BT/others when they got this new thing
01:53 <Flex> you'll take basically 50% of the market easly
01:54 <Flex> if i had a billion, i'd do it..
01:54 <Flex> would you?
01:54 <StickyNoob> no way
01:55 <Flex> so what would you spend your billion on..
01:56 <StickyNoob> 1st) i dont buy your 500m figure. 2nd) even if everyone did switch it would probably take decades of people paying £15 a month to pay it back
01:56 <StickyNoob> 3rd) there are far safer investments that will give a better return
01:56 <Flex> that's like 15million on the first year
01:57 <noob13> #t eng fr bakery
01:57 <Flex> if like a million get on
01:57 <armabot> noob13: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:57 <StickyNoob> 15*12*1000000 = 15,000,000?
01:57 <Flex> who does 15 anyway for faster
01:58 <Flex> you'd make your money back soon, not decades
01:59 <Flex> you'd also be creating a market and a control over your market..
01:59 <Flex> it's not like other investments.. you gain far more wealth then profit..
01:59 <Flex> but then again oil gives more
02:00 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1208956445/Antartica_-_Weather_Condition_1
02:00 <akira_arma> i am quite happy i dont have to experience THAT weather ;)
02:01 <StickyNoob> exactly, your idea MAY give returns, but there are far safer ways to do it than gamble on digging up prime realestate
02:03 <Flex> you'd make it easllllyyyy
02:04 <Flex> let's just say you do enough to support 5million+ people with 50mbs for £20 a month
02:04 <Flex> they'd switch instantly
02:05 <StickyNoob> thats assumeing that every PERSON(not house) in london gets internet
02:05 <Flex> no, i'm assuming, that it can support 5million
02:06 <Flex> i'd say 1million or so would sign up
02:06 <Flex> and there's like 11million people in london, and much more houses..
02:07 <StickyNoob> more houses than people?
02:08 <StickyNoob> 11 million includes greater london
02:09 <Flex> so how many homes in london
02:09 <Flex> in total
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02:15 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1206712486/Hardest_Game_In_The_World
02:15 <akira_arma> WTF
02:15 <akira_arma> :)
02:16 <StickyNoob> Flex__: 3 million for greater london
02:16 <Flex__> in total?
02:17 <StickyNoob> yup
02:17 <Flex__> that's way too low
02:17 <StickyNoob> nope
02:17 <StickyNoob> 3,109,657 to be precise(as of 2001)
02:17 <Flex__> link
02:17 <akira_arma> #tea
02:17 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): Concord, eggcozy, madmax (madmax@forums), Monkey (Monkey@x), wHaT
02:17 <StickyNoob> http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadTableView.do?a=3&b=287186&c=SW1X+9EL&d=141&e=16&g=339337&i=1001x1003x1004&m=0&r=0&s=1212624986380&enc=1&dsFamilyId=149
02:22 <StickyNoob> Flex__: problem is for your idea is that more houses is not good for your argument, since lets say there are 5million houses, you recon you can hook them all up for £100 each, that would be a bargin
02:22 <Flex__> exactly
02:22 <Flex__> well i'd personally do it for £20
02:22 <StickyNoob> £100 heh
02:23 <Flex__> so you'd get like how much back? 240m a year?
02:23 <StickyNoob> so 1 person employed for 2 hours to dig 10m of road and hook up your house, nice
02:23 <Flex__> or actually i'd do 50mb for 40 with phone line
02:23 <Flex__> and 20 for 30mb
02:24 <Flex__> you'd have to make exchanges for your network or something right
02:24 <StickyNoob> yeah
02:24 <Flex__> maybe buy the existing exchanges
02:25 <Flex__> split them all up fairly till you feel all are close and stuff
02:25 <Monkey_arma> every time you guys say somit you lag my cafe game
02:25 <Flex__> wow we're only tkaing up 5kbps
02:25 <Flex__> or something :p
02:25 <Monkey_arma> it jumps
02:26 <Monkey_arma> maybe its not u
02:26 <Flex__> StickyNoob, Kensington and Chelsea..
02:26 <Flex__> is that only counting those areas..
02:26 <StickyNoob> no
02:27 <StickyNoob> kensington and chelsea is only 1456 houses
02:27 <Flex__> there's only 21million homes in the uk..
02:27 <Flex__> wth
02:27 <Flex__> do they count apartments and flats
02:28 <StickyNoob> sounds about right
02:28 <StickyNoob> 60m population, 20m houses average of 3 per house, sounds right to me
02:29 <Flex__> at least i'd have a good start up company
02:29 <Flex__> that can maybe turn into a major player
02:30 <StickyNoob> tell you what Flex__ if you can figure out how to hook up everyone in london to fiber for £20 each give me a call, ill have no problem finding you capital funding
02:30 <Flex__> your investment into what..
02:31 <Flex__> it's not a mystery StickyNoob, anyone can do it
02:31 <Flex__> fiber to the home isn't even needed
02:31 <Flex__> basic no-lose cable to the home from the exchange
02:31 <Flex__> then fiber from there after
02:32 <StickyNoob> well if you are going to dig up the whole of london im sure as fuck not just putting in slightly better copper, it will be fiber
02:33 <StickyNoob> come up with a plan, you pull it off and we will all be millionares, you a have a return on investment of 1 month per house
02:33 <Monkey_arma> wtf jjbean is back in tron
02:34 <Flex__> StickyNoob, if i had a billion, i'd do it
02:34 <StickyNoob> you dont need a billion
02:34 <Flex__> what do i need
02:35 <Flex__> i hate BT so much i'd make sure they get out of biz
02:35 <StickyNoob> you roll up somewhere with a concrete plan and say "i can put fiberoptic in every house in london for £20 each" they will rip their pockets getting their wallet out
02:35 <Flex__> they owe me £500
02:35 <Flex__> those cunts
02:35 <Flex__> haha, yeah i'll go on the dragons den show or something
02:36 <Flex__> those cunts don't even have the cash to do it
02:36 <StickyNoob> again, if you had the plan they would find the cash fast
02:41 <Flex__> but the main concern would be.. how future proof can you make it..
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02:42 <Flex__> you'd also want to make the "tunnels" easy to replace cables incase something better comes up
02:42 <Flex__> that's the one thing they never thought about when they did the old lines
02:42 <StickyNoob> how future proof do you need it to be, you will double your money in about the first 3-4 months of subscription
02:42 <StickyNoob> after that fuck it
02:43 <Flex__> na we want to take the market
02:43 <Flex__> for a good 50years
02:43 <StickyNoob> well you could just do it again for £20 a house 10 years later
02:43 <Flex__> but then they'll complain about the monopoly over it..
02:44 <Flex__> can we legally hold control of our own exchanges..
02:44 <StickyNoob> probably
02:44 <StickyNoob> i think ntl/virgin do
02:44 <Flex__> where's the billion when you need it!
02:44 <StickyNoob> Flex__: you are on crak
02:44 <Flex__> lol
02:45 <Flex__> i ain't on crack! i'm high on life homie
02:46 <Flex__> it took me 3-5days to download 20gb torrent
02:46 <StickyNoob> you couldnt pay someone £20 a house to go drill a hole through the wall, let alone dig up the road
02:46 <Flex__> we're confusing our sevles.. what do you mean by that..
02:47 <StickyNoob> well giving every house fiber would require drilling a hole to feed it through
02:47 <Flex__> you devide the area's up and connect them up to your own exchange right
02:47 <Flex__> when someone signs up, you hook their line up
02:48 <StickyNoob> fine, so you dig up the road to their house and then drill a hole
02:48 <Flex__> all it takes is a good exchanges around london and then smaller things like those green boxes
02:48 <Flex__> they signed up for a service... so of course we gotta do the cable to their house
02:48 <StickyNoob> yeah
02:49 <Flex__> do it EXACTLY like ntl did, but with your own stuff
02:49 <StickyNoob> so you can tell them on the phone "we havent started digging your street yet wait 3 weeks while we dig our way there"
02:49 <Flex__> and a capable network
02:50 <StickyNoob> its not the cost of the cable i have issue with
02:50 <Flex__> na, you'll set up your exchanges, green boxes.. once that's done, they sign up, then you line the cable from your own green boxes that you've spread around the areas
02:50 <StickyNoob> its the ost to install
02:50 <Flex__> yeah i know that's where the cost is coming from
02:50 <StickyNoob> you still have to dig up to and drill every house
02:50 <Flex__> you've got a green box outside your house right
02:50 <Flex__> near the road or something
02:51 <StickyNoob> yup
02:51 <Flex__> so something like that
02:51 <Flex__> you don't need to dig anymore once that's set up
02:51 <StickyNoob> then how do you get the signal from that green box to the house?
02:51 <Flex__> you just run the cable to the house
02:51 <StickyNoob> above ground?
02:51 <Flex__> my cable is running across my wall
02:51 <Flex__> outside the house
02:51 <Flex__> flat
02:51 <Flex__> ^
02:51 <Flex__> no underground shit
02:52 <StickyNoob> what about be3tween the green box to the house
02:52 <Flex__> when you install the green box you provide a space for the cable to come out from
02:52 <Flex__> you do that when you're doing the green boxes
02:52 <StickyNoob> yeah
02:53 <StickyNoob> and that cable coming out and going to the house, above or below ground?
02:53 <Flex__> just close enough to the blocks/houses
02:53 <Flex__> depends on the locations
02:53 <Flex__> right
02:53 <StickyNoob> well everywhere in my area that cable was below ground
02:54 <StickyNoob> they dug a grove down the garden to put it under
02:54 <StickyNoob> then drilled the house
02:55 <Flex__> fuck it, just buy BT or something, and renew it completely
02:55 <StickyNoob> dosent get around the cost to install the cable
02:55 <Flex__> just so you don't have to spend the extra cash doing the exchanges
02:56 <StickyNoob> im not even counting the cost of the exchange
02:56 <Flex__> so how much is it for you
02:57 <StickyNoob> im looking purely at the cost of labour to dig the road up to every house then drill and install the cable in the house
02:57 <Flex__> ok how much in total
02:57 <Flex__> what's it going to cost
02:57 <Flex__> i only said i'd charge them £20 for the monthly rental..
02:58 <StickyNoob> i cant really say, id guess multi billions total, but way more than £20
02:58 <StickyNoob> (per house)
02:59 <Flex__> the only reason why these current isp's aren't investing is they're already getting the money
02:59 <Flex__> if they upgraded they'd just be giving more bandwidth for the same price
03:00 <Flex__> they care only about the profit and how much they can soak..
03:01 <Flex__> so they'd upgrade all your lines give you 50mbit and then charge you for the same..
03:01 <StickyNoob> sort of true yes
03:01 <StickyNoob> but the reason people wont create competition by dooing
03:01 <StickyNoob> oops
03:01 <StickyNoob> *doing what you sugested was its too expencive
03:02 <Flex__> the money coming back in would make it in no time
03:02 <Flex__> you just need the money and someone with a deep pocket that isn't going to do a half arsed job
03:04 <Flex__> actually a good example would be that recent works on an area in the UK that was installed fully with gbit lines..
03:04 <Flex__> can't remember the name
03:04 <StickyNoob> heh well as i say, come up with some good figures and ill help finding the capital
03:05 <Flex__> we can't do nothing with investors, they'll want their money back as soon as possible and wouldn't give a rats arse.. we need deep pocket dude to not miss a billion from his bank account :p
03:05 <StickyNoob> infact come up with the proposal and we will go do -> http://ycombinator.com/
03:06 <Flex__> haha, ok sure
03:08 <StickyNoob> if you had sugested some sort of high speed wifi across london for £500m I may have believed you
03:09  * Monkey_arma points out wimax
03:09 <StickyNoob> if you like paying £10 per byte
03:09 <Flex__> actually that's easy
03:09 <Monkey_arma> not that im reading what you guys are babbling about
03:09 <Flex__> you only need afew million to set up a satilite..
03:10 <StickyNoob> heh
03:10  * StickyNoob prices up an Arian 5 rocket
03:10 <Flex__> satellite's are cheep!, but the freq might be an issue
03:11 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: so whats your guess on the price of a satellite?
03:11 <Monkey_arma> just steal one
03:11 <Flex__> hey yeah!
03:11 <Monkey_arma> s/steal/hijack
03:11 <Monkey_arma> er s/hijack/steal/
03:12 <Flex__> if it can beem HD to the UK it can do high speed wifi
03:12 <Flex__> oh wait.. there's already a satellite broadband service
03:13 <Flex__> you're talking about wifi, so we'd have to set up hot spots..
03:13 <Monkey_arma> wimax will kill off wifi completely
03:13 <Monkey_arma> combined with vdsl and adsl2+
03:14 <Monkey_arma> and newer versions of HSDPA
03:14 <Flex__> how does the G3 products connect to the internet
03:14 <Flex__> if that small phone can do 20mb broadband then we don't need hot spots
03:14 <Monkey_arma> HSDPA and others
03:14 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: in the same way 3g was going to revolutionise mobile broadband?
03:14 <Monkey_arma> 3g is only a part solution at the moment
03:14 <Monkey_arma> and we are on 4g soon
03:15 <Flex__> StickyNoob, because it costs so much, it's not doing well because of the price
03:15 <StickyNoob> bandwidth is not the limitation of 3g, its the price
03:15 <Monkey_arma> it will drop
03:15 <Monkey_arma> its a new technology
03:15 <Flex__> why are they charging so much
03:15 <Flex__> what's taking all the money
03:15 <Monkey_arma> and HSDPO or whatever  will be the killer
03:16 <Monkey_arma> low competetiion and not enough infrastructure
03:16 <Monkey_arma> but it is getting there
03:16 <Flex__> all these heavy ghz signals going through the brain.. it wont fuck peoples heads will it
03:16 <StickyNoob> Flex__: since the UK government analy raped(and i do mean RAPED) the phone companies for the 3g lisences
03:16 <Monkey_arma> wimax will have 50 mile radius
03:16 <Flex__> how stable is it..
03:16 <Flex__> can you do good gaming :D
03:16 <Flex__> with low pings and shit
03:17 <Monkey_arma> all of the different solutions will bring prices down
03:17 <Monkey_arma> and the ultimate solution is the homebrew wifi and soon wimax spots
03:17 <Monkey_arma> that will reduce prices
03:17 <Flex__> but that's like 20mb or something
03:18 <Monkey_arma> 20mb?
03:18 <Flex__> that's not future proof..
03:18 <Flex__> how fast is the speeds capable of
03:18 <Monkey_arma> they keep on improving speeds and protocols
03:18 <Flex__> up to 50 then..
03:18 <Monkey_arma> and also technologies can be combined
03:19 <StickyNoob> Flex__: you are right, it is no real substitute for fiber
03:19 <Monkey_arma> well again fiber is one end of the spectrum
03:19 <Monkey_arma> you are forgetting about things in the middle
03:19 <Flex__> fuck the middle
03:19 <Monkey_arma> like adsl2+ and then vdsl
03:20 <Monkey_arma> its not fiber or NOT fiber
03:20 <Flex__> we want as fast as we can fit that photons through the cable :D
03:20 <Monkey_arma> vdsl is as close to fiber as you need to care about
03:20 <Monkey_arma> fiber means fuck all
03:20 <Monkey_arma> i have fiber
03:20 <Monkey_arma> you want good fiber
03:21 <Monkey_arma> they are improving the light retention
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i think the max is about 66% or so
03:21 <Flex__> virgin has hope
03:21 <Monkey_arma> or maybe a bit more
03:21 <Flex__> BT is fucked
03:21 <Monkey_arma> i cant remember
03:21 <Flex__> adsl is done for..
03:22 <Monkey_arma> BT wont be fucked
03:22 <Monkey_arma> but copper might be
03:22 <Flex__> BT isn't going to change it's copper
03:22 <Monkey_arma> yes it will
03:22 <Flex__> tell me where they're changing it
03:23 <Flex__> "will" isn't now dude
03:23 <Flex__> they need to be doing it soon
03:23 <Monkey_arma> they will probably start with adsl2+
03:23 <Flex__> not when we actually need it
03:23 <Monkey_arma> then go to vdsl
03:23 <Flex__> when we do they wont have the investment to do it
03:23 <Monkey_arma> that allows them to add copper in stages
03:23 <Monkey_arma> er fiber sry
03:24 <StickyNoob> Flex__: as much as i agree the UK needs to upgrade its communications infrastructure. its hardly urgent i mean ffs how much porn do you need
03:24 <Flex__> HD porn, about 3 DVD's a day
03:24 <Flex__> then i'll be happy
03:24 <Flex__> DVD's i mean by HD disks
03:24 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob they will upgrade rapidly for streaming technology
03:25 <StickyNoob> streaming?
03:25 <Monkey_arma> yes like videos
03:25 <Flex__> dude, we've been like the guys with the crappy connection for decades..
03:25 <Monkey_arma> they want to be able to stream stuff over the internet as if it were on tv
03:25 <Flex__> when we upgrade, they'll be downloading the whole internet by then
03:25 <Flex__> by them i mean the rest of europe
03:26 <StickyNoob> Flex__: 3 dvds a day is only about 200kbs i think
03:26 <Flex__> HD dvd's
03:26 <Flex__> that'd dvd9
03:26 <Flex__> or something
03:26 <Flex__> let's just say bluray
03:27 <StickyNoob> good god man, you have reall issues when you cant find porn arousing untill you have 50% more pixels
03:28 <Flex__> why did we bother to upgrade to colour if black and white was "fine"
03:28 <Monkey_arma> ok bed gn
03:28 <StickyNoob> cya
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03:29 <Flex__> sticky you want The Lionman season 1 :D
03:29 <StickyNoob> you are just a av chav
03:29 <Flex__> lol a chav.. yeah ok
03:30 <StickyNoob> Lionman?
03:30 <Flex__> you've never seen the tv program..
03:31 <StickyNoob> nope
03:31 <Flex__> the guy that handles lions..
03:31 <StickyNoob> does he abuse them?
03:31 <Flex__> As long as this page is open your copy/paste functionality has been disabled.
03:31 <Flex__> oops
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03:32 <Flex__> www.zionwildlifegardens.co.nz/
03:32 <StickyNoob> do they ride bikes?
03:32 <Flex__> yes he abuses them, you sick fuck
03:32 <Flex__> and they ride bikes yes
03:32 <StickyNoob> hmm sounds good
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03:34 <StickyNoob> im getting a toyger
03:35 <Flex__> to molest it?
03:35 <StickyNoob> no
03:35 <Flex__> don't lie
03:37 <Flex__> i might get a cat soon
03:37 <Flex__> a tabby or something
03:39 <Flex__> ok gn, i'm off
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04:43 <spidey_> luke-jr, wtfhax.net ->  97.95.153.97
04:43 <spidey_> plox D:
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04:47 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:48 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 72.1°F (9:45 PM CDT on June 04, 2008). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 28.53 in 966.0 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect until 7 am CDT Thursday...
04:48 <spidey_> #weather 38256
04:48 <armabot> spidey_: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 75.7°F (9:48 PM CDT on June 04, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady).
04:48 <spidey_> wow
04:48 <spidey_> my pc clock is actually right
04:48 <ghableska> haha
04:48 <ghableska> #weather Creston, IA
04:48 <armabot> ghableska: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
04:48 <ghableska> -_-
04:48 <ghableska> apparently there's a tornado there
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04:49 <ghableska> #weather 50801
04:49 <armabot> ghableska: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
04:50 <ghableska> ...
04:55 <spidey_> ADMINISTRATOR! THERE'S A BUG IN ARMABOT!
04:56 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
04:56 <spidey> -NickServ- You are now identified for spiddles.
04:56 <spidey> -NickServ- 3 failed logins since Mar 22 00:06:01 2008.
04:56 <spidey> someone tried to ident on my name :O
04:56 <ghableska> :o
04:56 <ghableska> #list
04:57 <armabot> ghableska: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
04:57 <spidey> i haven't identified in ages
04:57 <spidey> lol
04:57 <ghableska> I haven't been on here in ages
04:57 <spidey> i mostly idle
04:58 <ghableska> it hasn't been fun here since Canada left
04:58 <spidey> lol
04:58 <spidey> i never came on here for fun
04:58 <spidey> i came on here to make fun of luke-jr
04:59 <ghableska> heh
04:59 <ghableska> does crazylate still freak out with his name?
04:59 <spidey> D:
04:59 <spidey> who
04:59 <spidey> i dunno, i've been idle most of the time :P
05:00 <ghableska> crazylate, the command
05:00 <spidey> no clue
05:00 <spidey> #crazylate
05:00 <armabot> spidey: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
05:00 <spidey> ..
05:00 <ghableska> #crazylate  Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
05:00 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
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19:23 <madmax> #aka xyron
19:23 <armabot> madmax: ¿25202 x_krisz_x rubytiger xyron
19:24 <Flex> don't bother, armabot and luke is useless!
19:26 <madmax> #aka flex
19:26 <armabot> madmax: ¿22380 |sexy|_flexy flex 0:Flex@x |x|_flex 0:flex@L_OP |x|_flew |dmx|_flex fle|x|
19:27 <madmax> ouch
19:27 <Flex> i got renamed
19:27 <Flex> not my fault
19:28 <Monkey_arma> aka Monkey
19:28 <Monkey_arma> #aka Monkey
19:28 <armabot> Monkey_arma: ¿24337 monkery monkey :*() 0:Monkey@x
19:29 <Flex> :*( 0 )
19:31 <madmax> what the
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19:31 <Flex> #aka madmax
19:31 <armabot> Flex: ¿18552 demosedici desmosedici 0:madmax@forums madmax
19:31 <Concord> eh?
19:31 <madmax> #aka Concord
19:32 <armabot> madmax: ¿29096 adidas concord
19:32 <madmax> do you have a contract with adidas?
19:32 <Concord> yes
19:32 <Concord> they signed me back in november
19:33 <Flex> what for?
19:33 <Concord> Armagetron of course
19:33 <Flex> adidas can't afford someone good?
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19:34 <Concord> no
19:34 <Concord> they can't
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19:35 <Concord> they don't have much budget for Armagetron and they already signed G5, isn't that so
19:35 <Flex> #aka g5
19:35 <armabot> Flex: ¿11393 ~|ds|~g2 ~|ds|~g5 g5 g5@forum 0:G5@forums
19:36 <Concord> see
19:36 <G5> What did I do? :)
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19:36 <Concord> you signed with adidas right?
19:36 <G5> Sure
19:37 <Concord> and thats why they didn't have any money left to sign someone better than me
19:37 <Monkey_arma> hi concord, AshitakA_arma , g5, hoax
19:37 <Concord> hey
19:37 <Flex> Monkey_arma, you're on TV!
19:37 <Monkey_arma> heh
19:38 <Flex> channel 5
19:38 <hoax> yo
19:38 <Monkey_arma> the monkey world  ye
19:38 <Flex> some stupid hoe seems too interested in you Monkey_arma
19:38 <Monkey_arma>  was watching
19:38 <Flex> you might want to bang that
19:39 <Concord> ha
19:42 <madmax> so, people from England getting ready for the Euro 2008? :-D
19:43 <Monkey_arma> pfft
19:43 <Monkey_arma> England sucks
19:43 <Flex> you guys suck, so we thought we'd not try this year
19:44 <Monkey_arma> English cant do sport
19:44 <Flex> yes we can
19:44 <Flex> we do snooker pretty well
19:44 <Flex> we win that every year and stuff
19:44 <madmax> nobody cares about snooker!
19:45 <Concord> remember greece in 04
19:45 <madmax> *cough*
19:45 <madmax> at least we got to the final :-P
19:45 <Monkey_arma> er actually snooker is good
19:45 <Monkey_arma> i forgot bout that
19:45 <Flex> see!
19:45 <Monkey_arma> ok so "team" sports
19:46 <Flex> tennis?
19:46 <Monkey_arma> lol@tennis
19:46 <Monkey_arma> we suck at tennis
19:46 <madmax> F1!
19:46 <Flex> i don't even watch tennis
19:46 <Flex> f1? i don't think we're the best at that.. :(
19:47 <Concord> tennis is not a team sport, or should not be considered
19:47 <Concord> england is good at croquet I think
19:48 <Flex> dude we were good and the best at everything for a moment
19:48 <Flex> till we got bored and moved on
19:48 <Concord> in 1914 right?
19:49 <Flex> the ww1?
19:49 <Flex> we won that..
19:49 <Concord> and british sea power disappeared
19:49 <Concord> norman angell was right
19:49 <Flex> do you remember 1700?
19:50 <Concord> yes
19:50 <Concord> I was 18
19:50 <G5> Doesnt England do Rugby best? Oh, I forget, you are the only one doing it :)
19:51 <G5> *o
19:51 <Flex> lol
19:51 <Flex> the games you guys play, we play 5 different games for it!
19:51 <Concord> and lose in all of them?
19:51 <Concord> =}
19:52 <Monkey_arma> the worst is cricket
19:52 <Monkey_arma> England are the laughing stock
19:52 <Concord> croquet ftl
19:53 <Flex> actually nm 1700, it was quite abit after that
19:53 <Flex> then we lost everything
19:53 <Flex> :p
19:54 <G5> Oh right, Cricket u play with ur colonies ... :)
19:54 <Concord> no you guys were cool until 1914
19:54 <G5> I mean India and Aussieland
19:54 <Monkey_arma> cricket sucks anyway
19:54 <Flex> g5 is german right?
19:54 <Concord> deutscher
19:55 <Flex> well they suck at everything and play nothing!
19:55 <Concord> then they suck at nothing
19:55 <Flex> if they don't play at it, they don't actually be good at it do they?
19:55 <G5> Flex: yep
19:56 <G5> Germany sucks in a lot of things.
19:58 <Concord> so the US.  . .
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19:59 <Flex> the biggest suckers are the US
19:59 <Flex> clearly
20:00 <Concord> we just have the most recent downfall
20:00 <Concord> but yeh
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21:27 <epsy> Lucifer, are you _planning_ on using OpenAL or did you already commit?
21:27 <epsy> apps that uses OpenAL sound often tends to give fucked up sounds on my computer
21:28 <epsy> not really problematic for me and arma, since i just turn volume down when playing arma
21:28 <epsy> but that could affect other guys
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21:37 <epsy> Lucifer, oh, and, while you're at it, does the sound engine actually work? as in, can it play a sound when someone joins?
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22:12 <Lucifer> epsy: planning
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03:30 <ivantis> hellooo?
03:30 <ivantis> i know someone is there
03:35 <ivantis> @!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:35 <ivantis> who is there?
03:36 <ivantis> #ls ivantis
03:36 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 22 hours 4 minutes ago.
03:37 <ivantis> .....................................
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04:20 <ivantis> is anyone there NOW?
04:23 <ivantis> come on!
04:23 <ivantis> is no one seriously online?
04:23 <ivantis> no one?
04:23 <ivantis> at all?
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04:24 <ivantis> #ls |Dale
04:24 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
04:24 <ivantis> #ls lm8o
04:24 <armabot> ivantis: lm8o has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 4 hours 26 minutes ago.
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05:48 <Lucifer> Since I've been beating the tar out of the AI tanks in Atanks, I've decided to handicap myself
05:48 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma another bottle of win
05:48 <armabot> I have sent another bottle of win to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
05:49 <Lucifer> he needs as much win as he can get
06:01 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, I would say so
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06:23  * Lucifer considers playing scorched3d instead
06:28 <Ttech> <The_Master> Nil, dude... My source consists of 1366 lines of code - 0 System files, 12 Modules, 2 Config files. I am not the only one surely I am not.:-) If it were easy I would like to do that.:-) No I am written in PHP. Type "help" or "version" for more info Only 3, 2 of which shouldn't be here imo I want you to draft up a layout for the interface to SQL engines of varying types My brother has a 2m antenna tuner lmao there is only o
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08:32 <akira_arma> O.o
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11:03 <Lucifer> #math calc 34-17
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer: 17
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12:20 <eddiefantastic> Lucifer: Are you sure zones v2 is working? last time I tried it the networking side of things was seriously buggy to the point of unusable
12:20 <eddiefantastic> and ruby? what is that supposed to do? I though that was another unfinished project
12:31 <akira_arma> :O
12:32 <akira_arma> someone put up an armagetron torrent
12:32 <akira_arma> O.o
13:21 <StickyNoob> why?
13:21 <StickyNoob> its lik 5mb ist it?
13:22 <StickyNoob> *like
13:25 <akira_arma> yea
13:25 <akira_arma> 2,5
13:25 <akira_arma> but
13:25 <akira_arma> i mean its not that hard to dl from the site..
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13:26 <StickyNoob> hmm it would take me longer to start up the torrent than just to download straight from the site
13:27 <StickyNoob> and torrents are painfuly slow at the start
13:32 <akira_arma> wow!
13:32 <akira_arma> watch that
13:32 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1212656744/Office_Worker_Loses_It
13:32 <akira_arma> i ENDORSE that guxy
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14:06 <madmax> these underage Tokio Hotel fans are crazy
14:07 <madmax> some girls waited two days at the door before their concert in rock in rio
14:07 <madmax> plus crying when they entered and stuff
14:26 <spidey> LoL
14:27 <spidey> "lets host servers on vista and wonder why they crash all the time!
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19:44 <Concord> #aka Concord
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19:44 <armabot> Concord: ¿29096 adidas concord
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20:26 <noob13> hi!
20:38 <epsy> hi
20:38 <epsy> #aka ¦×¦epsy
20:38 <armabot> epsy: ¿26231 tiche |x|epsy z0mgz0r 0:epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/test
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20:39 <epsy> #aka 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
20:39 <armabot> epsy: ¿29191 |x|flash 0:flashy@forums 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
20:39 <epsy> O_o
20:51 <StickyNoob> #aka Sticky
20:51 <armabot> StickyNoob: ¿18907 |admin|_sticky |x|_sticky tag|sticky sticky 0:Sticky@x
20:52 <StickyNoob> how boring am i
20:52 <madmax> not much creativity there
20:53 <StickyNoob> naa i just dont understand smurfing
21:01 <Monkey_arma> me too i HATE smurfing
21:01 <Flex> i like smurfing smurfs :D
21:01 <Monkey_arma> flex you gotta help me decide on hardware
21:02 <Flex> ok what they got!
21:03 <Monkey_arma> well...
21:04 <Monkey_arma> i went to 4 shops
21:04 <Monkey_arma> one is second hand only but older stuff
21:04 <Monkey_arma> one has some second hand things in all time
21:04 <Monkey_arma> others first hand
21:04 <Flex> what about online bundles.. there's some decent stuff online bundled..
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21:05 <Monkey_arma> hiflasfhly
21:05 <Flex> bundled bundled bundles bundles bundles bundles bundleled
21:05 <Monkey_arma> online i dont like using online
21:05 <Monkey_arma> and p&p
21:05 <Flex> stop being an old man!
21:05 <flashyy> hi
21:05 <Flex> flash, you might not of noticed it.. but you've got an extra y there
21:05 <Flex> ;)
21:06 <Monkey_arma> flex, i have 2 choices from my perspective
21:06 <Monkey_arma> first hand is too much money to waste just for tron
21:06 <Monkey_arma> so...
21:06 <Flex> just for? don't you play other games or do other stuff that takes resources?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> no
21:06 <Monkey_arma> i hate videos and other games
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21:07 <Monkey_arma> so just internet, general stuff
21:07 <Monkey_arma> and tron
21:07 <Monkey_arma> anyway
21:07 <Flex> you're like 20years behind times Monkey_arma
21:07 <Monkey_arma> the second hand guy reckons that he only really seems to have 1.8ghz P4 with 32meg gfx card
21:07 <Flex> you don't even have youtube!
21:08 <Monkey_arma> thank fuck  i dont
21:08 <Flex> there's alot of lesbian porn on youtube, that shit is banging..
21:08 <Flex> missing out big time!
21:08 <Monkey_arma> now compared to my P3-900mhz and intel (uses system ram)
21:09 <Monkey_arma> do you think that will be fine for tron for me?
21:09 <Flex> is the card agp?
21:09 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:09 <Flex> i don't think so
21:10 <Flex> it would be better then what you got for sure..
21:10 <Monkey_arma> well P4 is better than P3 so its more than double cpu
21:10 <Flex> but depending on the card.. no real improvement..
21:10 <Monkey_arma> and my intel builtin has only a little bit of 3D accel
21:10 <Monkey_arma> i dont care about fancy grahics detail
21:10 <Flex> you care about fps
21:10 <Monkey_arma> i hate the floor etc
21:11 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:11 <Monkey_arma> what do you have ?
21:11 <Monkey_arma> gfx wise
21:11 <Flex> x850 pe
21:11 <Monkey_arma> ram?
21:11 <Flex> oops x800 pe
21:11 <StickyNoob> not all P4's are better than all p3's some are slower
21:11 <Monkey_arma> lol
21:11 <Flex> i got 1gb rap
21:11 <Flex> ram
21:12 <Monkey_arma> a P4 -1.8ghz is more than double P3-900mhz surely
21:12 <Flex> what exactly does arma care about when we focus on "fps"
21:12 <Monkey_arma> and i meant ram on your gfx card you plank
21:12 <StickyNoob> and any money you save buying a p4 will be added on to your electricity bill
21:12 <Monkey_arma> sticky my bill i have just got through for electric
21:12 <Flex> oh 250mb
21:12 <Flex> or something
21:12 <Monkey_arma> its 60 quid for 3 months
21:12 <Monkey_arma> thats fine
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i want to get a p3 and no fps?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:13 <StickyNoob> heh
21:13 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend StickyNoob ?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> Flex anyway the other shop has stuff in but its random
21:13 <StickyNoob> go old amd, celeron, or core 2
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i could wait for mobo+cpu+etc
21:14 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob why?
21:14 <Flex> yeah amd beats intel easly on the budget..
21:14 <Monkey_arma> ive got p3 celeron
21:14 <Monkey_arma> budget is irrelevant
21:14 <Monkey_arma> second hand is fuck all
21:14 <StickyNoob> old amd's beat intel on budget
21:14 <Flex> power for performance amd beats intel on the low end stuff
21:14 <Monkey_arma> put it this way, today that other shop had p4-3ghz+ fan 13 quid
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21:15 <Flex> 13quid?
21:15 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:15 <Flex> was it broken..
21:15 <Monkey_arma> no
21:15 <Monkey_arma> but no mobo
21:15 <Flex> ohh right
21:15 <Monkey_arma> so i could get it but i cant find a friggen mobo
21:16 <Flex> there's a cheap mobo on ebuyer for £30
21:16 <Monkey_arma> 30 fuck that
21:16 <Flex> man you make me feel like a big spender..
21:16 <Monkey_arma> i would spend 80 quid if i got good stuff
21:17 <Monkey_arma> but i may just spend less and upgrade in a year
21:17 <StickyNoob> old athlons will cost the same as your p4 give similar performance but better power useage
21:17 <Flex> focus on the graphics right.. then add on the mobo and cpu
21:17 <Flex> imo
21:17 <Flex> best way you'll get arma performance
21:18 <Monkey_arma> well gfx is easier
21:18 <Flex> if you go the mobo and cpu route you'll end up with a slight improvement which all that budget talk would be useless
21:18 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend  as minimum?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> 128 meg?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 64?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 32?
21:18 <StickyNoob> heh
21:19 <Flex> arma isn't concerned about it's ram.. right..
21:19 <Monkey_arma> are you dumb?
21:19  * StickyNoob has a embedded pc with more cpu power and ram than monkeys new pc
21:19 <Monkey_arma> i mean your fucking gfx ram
21:19 <Flex> that's what i'm tlaking about
21:19 <Flex> jeez
21:19 <Monkey_arma> flex the more ram your gfx, the later the model so the faster
21:19 <Monkey_arma> ram on gfx is good base to go on for speed of gfx
21:19 <Flex> it's not all about the ram
21:19 <Monkey_arma> i know
21:20 <Monkey_arma> but faster cards have more ram
21:20 <Monkey_arma> is a good indicator of speed
21:20 <Flex> not really..
21:20 <Monkey_arma> ok here.... mobo+athlon1250+fan £7
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21:21 <Monkey_arma> can any agp mobo take any agp card?
21:22 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob ?
21:22 <Flex> yeah.......
21:22 <Monkey_arma> dont some things need the mobo to support it too for those effects to work?
21:22 <Monkey_arma> im sure i heard that
21:22 <Monkey_arma> like fastwrite
21:23 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: what is your gfx budget
21:23 <Flex> as long as the mobo can take x8 agp speed should be fine
21:24 <Monkey_arma> £30
21:24 <Flex> or whatever agp max speed is
21:24 <Monkey_arma> but i dont want other part of computer to be a bottleneck
21:24 <Monkey_arma> i would prefer to spend less than 30 tho
21:24 <Monkey_arma> it looks best to just upgrade for a year then do a proper upgrade
21:25 <Flex> with £30, the best option for more FPS is going old school with crappy graphics but performance
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21:25 <Flex> so your cycle looks like a cube from sega
21:26 <Monkey_arma> flex read better
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21:26 <Monkey_arma> £30 is for just the gfx card
21:26 <Flex> that's what i'm talking about..
21:26 <epsy> .g 30 £ in €
21:26 <Flex> read better!
21:26 <epsy> #g 30 £ in €
21:26 <armabot> epsy: 30 UK£ = 37.3950814 €
21:26 <epsy> man that's..low
21:26 <epsy> for a gfx
21:27 <Flex> not possible to get a real improvement with that
21:27 <epsy> indeed
21:27 <Flex> bang for bunk would be very low
21:27 <Monkey_arma> rubbish
21:27 <Monkey_arma> second hand i am talking
21:27 <Monkey_arma> they have 128 meg gfx cards barnd new for 30 quid
21:27 <Monkey_arma> but they are pci-e
21:27 <Flex> even better
21:28 <Monkey_arma> you guys are not wise
21:28 <Flex> you'll get better performance with pci
21:28 <Monkey_arma> but i cant get secondhand pci-e mobos
21:28 <Monkey_arma> the price is way more for that and cpu
21:28 <Monkey_arma> well maybe not cpu idk
21:28 <Flex> what you on about! pci mobo for £30 on pc world
21:29 <Flex> check the sales section
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21:29 <Monkey_arma>  ibet its shite
21:29 <Monkey_arma> can it take my pata HD?
21:29 <Monkey_arma> i bet not
21:29 <Flex> my dads one is standard
21:29 <epsy> 'standart' ha-ha
21:29 <Monkey_arma> ok i will go to pc world and have a look
21:29 <Flex> huh?
21:30 <Flex> online you'll get the same price too
21:30 <epsy> i bet he actually meant he would look on their website, but that he will look later
21:30 <Monkey_arma> !
21:30 <Monkey_arma> i meant to the store!
21:30 <Flex> i meant online on other online stores
21:31 <Monkey_arma> but fine i will look at their shit site now
21:31 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: see how much you can pick up an 8500gt for
21:31 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob brand new or second hand?
21:31 <Flex> second hand obviously
21:31 <Monkey_arma> second hand is pot luck as to what is in
21:31 <StickyNoob> naa i can find it new for 35
21:32 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412
21:32 <Flex> you can??
21:32 <Monkey_arma> how much ram on the 8500gt?
21:32 <StickyNoob> http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675
21:33 <epsy> Intel 865G Chipset;
21:33 <StickyNoob> check uot: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/3dmark06-v1-0-2-hdr-sm3-0-score,538.html
21:33 <epsy> ..
21:33 <Flex> oh oops that was an agp mobo
21:34 <epsy> plus it's a motherboard, not a gfx card :)
21:34 <Monkey_arma> intel ftw!
21:34 <epsy> ftl
21:34 <StickyNoob> w
21:34 <epsy> at least, for GFX
21:34 <Flex> we're looking for a mobo you arseface
21:34 <Monkey_arma> we want both
21:34 <Flex> cheapest pci-e on ebuyer is £50
21:34 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/125082
21:34 <Flex> i think
21:34 <epsy> don't opt for an intel-based GFX system
21:35 <epsy> that's all i can say
21:35 <StickyNoob> intel gfx is good for linux users
21:36 <Monkey_arma> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
21:36 <Monkey_arma> epsy tell him he is wrrooooooonnnng
21:36 <StickyNoob> why is that?
21:36 <epsy> StickyNoob, wrong.
21:36 <Monkey_arma> intel is bad on all computers
21:36 <StickyNoob> why?
21:36 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:36 <epsy> esp. in linux
21:36 <Monkey_arma> omg
21:37 <Monkey_arma> im on intel now
21:37 <epsy> me too
21:37 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:37 <StickyNoob> me too
21:37 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati yes?
21:37 <epsy> and i pretty much regret it
21:37 <epsy> yes
21:37 <Flex> intel so far is pwning amd..
21:37 <Flex> wtf you on about
21:37 <Monkey_arma> flex omg lol
21:37 <Monkey_arma> gfx not cpu!!!!
21:37 <epsy> wait, we're talking about GFX!
21:38 <Flex> they're so pwning amd.. they're moving onto graphic cards and playing with nvidia
21:38 <Monkey_arma> man i hate pcs
21:38 <StickyNoob> well evidence such as OMG and intel suck aside what is wrong with them?
21:38 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ati sucks at linux
21:38 <Monkey_arma> right ok
21:38 <Flex> nothing, they're not with it
21:38 <Monkey_arma> intel is suck ass
21:39 <StickyNoob> good argument
21:39 <Monkey_arma> thx
21:39 <Flex> i'd go with intel on top end systems anyday
21:39 <epsy> Monkey_arma, nvidia works quite well, except if you'restrong-headed at only using free softw
21:39 <Flex> say what you want
21:39 <Flex> go check the benchmarks..
21:39 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati > intel
21:39 <Monkey_arma> end of
21:39 <epsy> StickyNoob, until the great fps improvements zman did, i had like 10-30fps at arma
21:40 <Monkey_arma> oh btw epsy trunk > 2.8.2.1
21:40 <epsy> do you think that's better than ati?
21:40 <epsy> (ati = amd btw)
21:40 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:40 <Flex> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-101-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1015&name=Gigabyte%20GA-P31-DS3L%20Intel%20P31%20(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard
21:40 <Monkey_arma> but when you talk about gfx you say ati
21:40 <Monkey_arma> overclockers good god
21:40 <epsy> jeez you don't want overclocking stuff
21:41 <Flex> what.. that#s £31..
21:41 <epsy> then games are unplayable because of sysclock glitches
21:41 <Flex> dude.. they don't overclock everything thet sell..
21:41 <Flex> does it say "OVER CLOCKED" on the item anywhere you fucking fagfuckface!
21:42 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: anyway lookat the 8500gt
21:42 <epsy> anyway, ati and intel driver support for linux sucks big time
21:42 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob  i doubt i can choose that much what i want
21:42 <StickyNoob> you can pick that up new
21:42 <Flex> linux sucks big time
21:42 <Flex> yes, i said it
21:42 <Flex> you guys also suck big time
21:42 <Monkey_arma> but will a lame agp mobo bottleneck that card?
21:43 <Flex> it's not agp
21:43 <Flex> it's pci
21:43 <StickyNoob> Flex: so hows those creative drivers in vista working out?
21:43 <Flex> fantastic
21:43 <Monkey_arma> ok so you are saying i can go to pc world and get £30 mobo and £30 gfx?
21:43 <Flex> they're only doing vista.. they've stopped supporting xp :)
21:44 <Flex> Monkey_arma, check the overclockers mobo link i gave you, that's £30
21:44 <Flex> then take http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675
21:44 <Flex> that's your mobo and gfx covered
21:44 <Flex> then go find a cpu
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21:44 <Flex> or if you want to go amd based mobo, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=805
21:44 <Flex> then find cpu and ram
21:44 <Flex> and you're done
21:44 <Monkey_arma> flex you are insane
21:45 <Flex> what! that sounds like the best idea
21:46 <Monkey_arma> btw why is DDR2 cheaper than DDR1?
21:46 <StickyNoob> since they dont make ddr1 anymore
21:47 <StickyNoob> its like buying a triumph
21:47 <Monkey_arma> k
21:47 <Flex> what's wrong with my idea Monkey_arma
21:47 <Monkey_arma> right well you guys have helped me make up my mind
21:47 <Monkey_arma> you are both mad so i do the opposite of what you say
21:47 <Monkey_arma> i will get second hand basic stuff
21:51 <Flex> StickyNoob, do you still have that link to the graphic card FPS list
21:51 <Flex> if you don't mind, can't find that again
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22:10 <Monkey_arma> flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaashyyyyy
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22:27 <Flex> http://www.goosh.org/
22:28 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with goosh
22:28 <armabot> epsy: [22:25:46] <epsy> http://goosh.org/
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22:28 <epsy> that was yesterday i guess
22:29 <Flex> lol!
22:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, #last doesn't show date in timestamps
22:29 <Flex> i don't see it in my logs
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22:31 <epsy> Flex, http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-06-03.txt
22:32 <Flex> ok relax! you found it first!
22:32 <Flex> lol
22:32 <epsy> <Flex> i don't see it in my logs
22:32 <epsy> :)
22:32 <Flex> i only saw it now
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23:48 <Flex> escooo let's goooo
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Log from 2008-06-07:
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00:57 <Lucifer> GodTodd: ping
00:57 <Lucifer> :)
00:57 <Lucifer> #m GodTodd looks like they're doing the Lunar Lander Challenge at Holloman again, but they didn't say anything about the X Prize Cup
00:57 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
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01:08 <ivantis> hellooo?
01:08 <ivantis> #ls dale
01:08 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
01:09 <ivantis> dangit
01:09 <ivantis> is anyone there?
01:14 <ivantis> bah
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01:22 <Monkey_arma> SURPRISE we are all behind the sofa happy birth....oh....
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02:33 <Flex> do we come out now Monkey_arma ?
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02:36 <Monkey_arma> yes
02:36 <Monkey_arma> o btw flex
02:37 <Monkey_arma> 64 AGP Gforce MX400
02:37 <Monkey_arma> any good?
02:38 <Flex> i owned a mx 440
02:38 <Flex> that was sweet
02:39 <Monkey_arma> well that shop just sold one
02:40 <Monkey_arma> so if i can get one like that for a few quid its good?
02:41 <Flex> so what you're going with the plan that you'll upgrade cheap now and buy a new pc later in the future?
02:42 <Monkey_arma> ye
02:42 <Monkey_arma> what kind of fps will i get with mx400?
02:42 <Monkey_arma> bear in mind i will be on trunk so more fps
02:43 <Flex> i'm not quite sure.. i'd guess on a 8v8/9v9 around 15fps
02:43 <Monkey_arma> wtf
02:44 <Monkey_arma> with not detail at all?
02:44 <Flex> with default settings
02:44 <Flex> i remember connecting to fortress cafe with it on my old computer, and it was low fps
02:44 <Monkey_arma> what version of arma?
02:45 <Flex> it was like 8v8, and the version was old, nothing like trunk or auth
02:45 <Monkey_arma> right
02:45 <Monkey_arma> what specs was your old comp?
02:45 <Flex> p4 2.8 with 500mb ram
02:45 <Flex> and mx 440
02:45 <Monkey_arma> so same as what i want
02:46 <noob13> 33
02:46 <Flex> it will be a nice improvement
02:46 <Flex> 33?
02:46 <Monkey_arma> so with trunk it may be good
02:46 <Monkey_arma> and no details i play with
02:46 <Flex> yeah, might get a good increase
02:46 <Monkey_arma> no sparks, floor, anything
02:46 <Flex> and with full performance setting on nvidia settings
02:47 <Monkey_arma> noob13 33?
02:49 <noob13> an accident, disregard me plz.
02:49 <noob13> #night
02:49 <armabot> Good night noob13!
02:49 <Flex> lol
02:50 <Monkey_arma> :) gn
02:50 <Monkey_arma> what do i need video ram for then?
02:51 <Monkey_arma> just for the current display?
02:52 <Flex> what you mean
02:53 <Monkey_arma> what does video ram do
02:53 <Flex> dunno lol
02:53 <Monkey_arma> i know you need a certain amount for the current display
02:53 <Monkey_arma> like the res and colours
02:54 <Monkey_arma> does it hold more than one image?
02:54 <Monkey_arma> or just what you are currently looking at?
02:55 <Flex> it shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_card#Video_memory
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03:15 <Flex> Monkey_arma, ?
03:17 <Flex> nnm
03:17 <Flex> gn
03:18 <Monkey_arma> gn
03:46 <luke-jr> http://www.flickr.com/photos/27373994%40N02/2554310312/sizes/o/
03:51 <Monkey_arma> hah
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05:34 <ivantis> hello?
05:34 <ivantis> #ls ivantis
05:34 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 3 hours 30 minutes ago.
05:34 <ivantis> #ls dale
05:34 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
05:34 <ivantis> #ls lm8o
05:34 <armabot> ivantis: lm8o has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= 7 hours 40 minutes ago.
05:35 <ivantis> anyone here?
05:35 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/Paralyzed/paralyzed-customsumo-RT1.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet
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05:36 <ivantis> hello?
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06:16 <Lucifer> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/btsc.welch.obama.press/?iref=hpmostpop   <--- heh
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18:12 <ivantis> epsy, are you online?
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18:35 <ivantis> is anyone?
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18:48 <noob13> Hi!
18:48 <ivantis> hey noob13
18:49 <ivantis> hey, look at http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197227#197227
18:49 <ivantis> tell me if thats right
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18:51 <noob13> maybe, ehm..? what are you trying to do?
18:51 <noob13> hey G5
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18:51 <G5> yo noob13
18:52 <ivantis> what epsy said, recreate a console into the server
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18:54 <ivantis> noob13?
18:54 <madmax> "interpreted programs take up a lot of stack memory" huh?
18:54 <epsy> ivantis, hi
18:55 <madmax> wasn't pavelo talking about running check inside check recursively?
18:55 <ivantis> idk
18:55 <ivantis> hey epsy
18:56 <ivantis> oh madmax, maybe ur right
18:56 <ivantis> i get it now
18:57 <noob13> a bit confused..not sure if your way makes sense
18:57 <noob13> it might?
18:57 <madmax> a local variable to the function goes to the stack, so calling it recursively keeps putting 'servlog' variables there
18:57 <ivantis> wait, i am confused now. what are you both talking about?
18:58 <madmax> assuming cryptic-perl doesn't have some weird way of doing that heh
18:58 <ivantis> yes, i have thought about just translating it to C++
18:58 <madmax> lol nvm
18:58 <ivantis> ok, noob13, what are you talking about?
18:59 <ivantis> my way of doing what?
18:59 <noob13> "recreating a console into the server"
18:59 <ivantis> yes
18:59 <ivantis> would that way work?
19:00 <noob13> why don't you just try?
19:00 <noob13> i don't really know...
19:00 <ivantis> im on a windows machine right now, and my server isnt on
19:00 <ivantis> it might be in a couple hours, i have a lazy man as my remote hand to turn it on and off
19:01  * ivantis is on vacation
19:01 <epsy> yes, that way to recreate a working console works, that's what i'm using on x server
19:02 <epsy> let me check
19:02 <epsy> inotail -f /home/rain/testserver/console_log.txt & cat >>/home/rain/testserver/console_input.txt
19:02 <epsy> :)
19:02 <ivantis> so my way of starting it would work?
19:02 <epsy> not sure, that -d confuses me
19:03 <epsy> checking bash's man
19:03 <ivantis> its so it goes into background mode with > /dev/null
19:03 <ivantis> not sure what it does, but avl:c10ud told me to do it that way
19:04 <epsy> is -d the --deamon start option from arma?
19:04 <ivantis> psh, idk
19:04 <epsy> looks like it is
19:05 <ivantis> you have ssh access to rain's server?
19:05 <ivantis> try it
19:05 <epsy> inotail -f /home/rain/testserver/console_input.txt | (while true; do /home/rain/arma-0.2.8-bzr/bin/armagetronad-dedicated --userdatadir   /home/rain/testserver/data --userconfigdir /home/rain/testserver/config --vardir /home/rain/testserver/var --autoresourcedir /home/rain/testserver/var/resource ; done) >>/home/rain/testserver/console_log.txt
19:05 <epsy> it's wrtl's server
19:05 <epsy> and that's what i use
19:05 <ivantis> o
19:06 <epsy> heck, i know there is an infinite loop in here
19:06 <ivantis> thats what you use to start the server or get to the server's console?
19:06 <epsy> he made a little script to run his servers
19:06 <epsy> GNU screen
19:06 <epsy> over ssh :)
19:07 <epsy> er
19:07 <epsy> that's whta wrlt's script runs for me
19:07 <ivantis> what kinda computer r u on?
19:08 <epsy> it's supposed to stop when server restarts too quickly but since input blocks it i had to use an infinite loop to restart it
19:08 <epsy> ivantis, me or x server ? :)
19:08 <ivantis> both
19:08 <epsy> i'm on a shitty dell dim. 3100
19:08 <epsy> i don't know about wrtl's server
19:09 <ivantis> no, i mean os. debian, right?
19:09 <epsy> gentoo on both
19:09 <ivantis> oh
19:10 <epsy> am i the only one who noticed google changed their favicon? :)
19:10 <luke-jr> no
19:10 <ivantis> can you get X (as in x windows) on it, like $ ssh -X yourserv.ath.cx
19:10 <luke-jr> I noticed
19:10 <ivantis> i noticed!
19:10 <epsy> it doesn't have X installed
19:11 <ivantis> which? your computer or wrtls
19:11 <epsy> wrtl's of course :)
19:11  * epsy doesn't play AA with aalib :P
19:12 <ivantis> i think i enabled it, when the lazy at my house turns on my computer, try X with my public account
19:12 <epsy> ivantis, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197117#197117
19:12 <epsy> heh
19:13 <ivantis> hah, lol
19:13 <epsy> i don't have an sshd running at home
19:13 <epsy> never needed it
19:13 <ivantis> shoulda read the whole thing
19:13 <epsy> :P
19:13 <ivantis> whats sshd?
19:13 <epsy> sssh daemon
19:13 <ivantis> daemon
19:13 <ivantis> knew it
19:13 <ivantis> i need it sometimes
19:13 <ivantis> to do stuff remotley
19:14 <epsy> yeah but most comps i see are under windows and i don't want to install cygwin each time
19:14 <epsy> (just to get X)
19:14 <ivantis> oh
19:15 <ivantis> i found a good net ssh client, http://netspace.org/ssh/
19:15 <ivantis> nice and free
19:15 <epsy> woohoo for netscape
19:16 <ivantis> but it doesnt work at my school anymore, they somehow blocked requests on port 22
19:17 <ivantis> and they only allow 21, 80, 88, 8080, and a couple other net-phone ports
19:17 <ivantis> those administration jerks
19:18 <epsy> well, set your home router to redirect one of these ports to port 22 ;)
19:18 <ivantis> but on netspace's client, you cant choose the port
19:18 <ivantis> anyway, i just put my server in DMZ
19:20 <ivantis> so i use http://www.serfish.com/console/
19:20 <ivantis> even though its really really slow
19:20 <madmax> the other there was about 10 stories about google's favicon on reddit -_-
19:21 <ivantis> its not as cool looking now
19:22 <ivantis> it looks like a blue golden books logo
19:22 <epsy> are they going to make a fully new webdesign? :PP
19:22 <ivantis> hopefully not
19:23 <ivantis> epsy, what is cygwin?
19:23 <ivantis> x client for windows?
19:23 <epsy> a linux emulator..which sucks
19:23 -luke-jr:#armagetron- You have 1 new server message. Type '/server mail new' to read it.
19:23 <ivantis> is it free?
19:24 <epsy> yes
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19:24 <pippijn> luke-jr: 19:24 [freenode] -!- SERVER Unknown command
19:24 <ivantis> good
19:24 <pippijn> luke-jr: LIAR :O
19:24 <luke-jr> lol
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19:24 <luke-jr> lol
19:24 <epsy> you are such an...
19:25 <epsy> was like..oo their new services introduces SPAM!
19:27 <ivantis> you know what stinks? my grandma has a better internet connection than me
19:27 <pippijn> :-D
19:27 <ivantis> im using her computer now
19:27 <pippijn> heh..
19:27 <pippijn> how sad
19:27 <ivantis> on arma, i have like 50 less ping
19:27 <epsy> on american servers i guess
19:27 <ivantis> no, on like all servers
19:28 <ivantis> on ddl i usually have 250, now its 198
19:28 <luke-jr> epsy: 50 less, not 50 flat
19:28 <epsy> er
19:28 <epsy> yes
19:28 <luke-jr> ivantis: I bet it's wired vs wireless ☺
19:28 <ivantis> no
19:29 <noob13> the location then?
19:30 <ivantis> its only a 3 hour drive
19:30 <noob13> different isp, cable vs dsl? something random?
19:31 <ivantis> on internet frog, upload speed is satellite, download is dsl/t1
19:31 <ivantis> i havent tried it at home tho
19:31 <ivantis> yes, different isp
19:32 <ivantis> whats the difference between cable and dsl?
19:32 <ivantis> arent they the same?
19:32 <luke-jr> no
19:32 <luke-jr> nothing in common
19:32 <luke-jr> completely different and unrelated
19:33 <ivantis> luke-jr, what speed is on your dedicated servers?
19:33 <luke-jr> ivantis: 100 mbit generally
19:34 <ivantis> doesnt that cost a LOT?
19:34 <ivantis> t3s are like $1000 a month, right?
19:35 <luke-jr> it's metered
19:35 <ivantis> by how much goes in and out?
19:35 <luke-jr> obviously that depends
19:36 <ivantis> hmm
19:36 <ivantis> has anyone tried aol server? http://aolserver.com/
19:37 <ivantis> is it really faster than apache?
19:37 <noob13> oO
19:38  * epsy wouldn't use anything stamped AOL
19:38 <ivantis> i know it sounds stupid, but maybe the people at AOL have a little bit of brains
19:38 <epsy> it does indeed sound stupid
19:38  * ivantis laughs at that idea thinking about it
19:39 <ivantis> i was reading "UNIX for Dummies"
19:39 <ivantis> it says aol server is the fastest
19:40 <ivantis> i havent tried it, but maybe it is
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19:42 <ivantis> well, i must be off. time for tv
19:43 <ivantis> bye everyone
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20:44 <ivantis> hey epsy
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20:59 <ivantis> #ls dale
21:00 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
21:00 <ivantis> #ls lm8o
21:00 <armabot> ivantis: lm8o has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= 23 hours 6 minutes ago.
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21:01 <akira_arma> #ls oscilloscope
21:01 <armabot> akira_arma: timed out
21:01 <P4> #grep
21:01 <akira_arma> xD
21:01 <armabot> P4: This data is 58 seconds old: Nothing found.
21:01 <P4> #ls CT_
21:01 <armabot> P4: CT_emphasis has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 10 minutes ago.
21:02 <P4> #ls CT_g
21:02 <armabot> P4: CTxGonZaP has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 1 hour 37 minutes ago.
21:02 <P4> #ls -g P4@crazy-tronners.com
21:02 <armabot> P4: CT׶4 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 0 hours 48 minutes ago.
21:02 <P4> ;)
21:03 <P4> #echo [nicks] : Does any of you know where is svg with output for [tea]?
21:03 <armabot> akira_arma, armabot, ct|kyle, deja_vu, eddiefantastic, emphasis|afk, epsy, Flex, G5, g5vc, GodTodd, guru3, hoax, Lucifer, luke-jr, madmax, MrBougo, noob13, noob7_away, P4, pippijn, pseigo_bigscreen, spidey, StickyNoob, torres, tramshed, wrtlprnft, z-man-work, and z-wt : Does any of you know where is svg with output for Fortress Café: Players (5/32): -=Rubberduck=-, <T¤$afari$Kater (1 more message)
21:03 <P4> #more
21:03 <armabot> P4: (safariskater@crazy-tronners.com), åppåritiøn, ~*GW*~kbblak, ~|DS|~G5 ?
21:03  * P4 hides
21:06  * deja_vu finds P4 and buries him to his chin on a playground
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21:08 <MrBougo> P4: shame
21:09 <P4> #disable channel nicks
21:09 <armabot> P4: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:09 <P4> :þ
21:09 <Lucifer> #send P4 a nuclear missile
21:09 <armabot> I have sent a nuclear missile to P4, it should arrive shortly.
21:11 <akira_arma_> #slap Lucifer
21:11 <armabot> akira_arma_ slaps Lucifer for being a raving moron.
21:11 <P4> #r
21:14 <P4> #r
21:14 <armabot> P4: *click*
21:17 <spidey> P4, stfu
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21:24 <epsy> P4, fuck off
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21:25 <ivantis> hey epsy
21:25 <P4> hey pepsy :þ
21:26 <ivantis> epsy, do you know how to make an every-minute crontab?
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21:30 <G5> ivantis: If "* * * * *" doesnt work, try "0-59 * * * *"
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21:36 <Flex> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493464/
21:37 <Flex> that looks ill
21:38 <Flex> can you actually bend a bullet?....
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21:39 <hoax> jus saw that on tv innit
21:39 <Flex> yeah
21:40 <Flex> are you watching the game?
21:40 <Monkey_arma> yep
21:40 <Flex> nice save
21:40 <Flex> that was banging shot
21:41 <hoax> gd game so far
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21:44 <Flex> place bets now!!!! who's going to win and score!
21:44 <Monkey_arma> portugal
21:44 <Flex> score?
21:44 <Monkey_arma> deco to score
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22:38 <Flex> 2-0 i was betting 1-0 to portugal
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22:39 <Flex> Monkey_arma,
22:39 <Monkey_arma> yes?
22:39 <Flex> it's over
22:39 <Monkey_arma> yes
22:40 <Monkey_arma> i know
22:40 <Monkey_arma> was watching
22:40 <Flex> was 2-0 your guess?
22:40 <Monkey_arma> no
22:40 <Monkey_arma> i would have thought 1-0
22:41 <Monkey_arma> they arent known for their shooting prowess
22:41 <Flex> turkey had no real attack
22:41 <Monkey_arma> na
22:41 <Flex> na?
22:41 <Monkey_arma> they were ok but not great
22:42 <Monkey_arma> i mean na they didnt
22:42 <Flex> dude, they didn't take the few chances they had
22:43 <Monkey_arma> i am agreeing with you
22:43 <Monkey_arma> i mean na they didnt have any real attack
22:43 <Monkey_arma> who is your fav to win?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> i think anyone can
22:43 <Monkey_arma> no great teams this time
22:44 <Flex> yeah, can't guess for sure.. but i'd go with portugal
22:45 <Flex> but another team would pwn that defence
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23:06 <Monkey_arma> gnu are absolutely fucking shit
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23:07 <akira_arma_> #tea
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23:08  * akira_arma_ looks for bot
23:08 <akira_arma_> :(
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23:27 <madmax> http://www.intology.com/computers-internet/ransomware-virus-that-uses-1024-bit-encryption-key/
23:28 <madmax> ransomware ftw
23:35 <akira_arma_> O.o
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Log from 2008-06-08:
--- Day changed Sun Jun 08 2008
00:01 -!- emphasis is now known as emphasis|zzzzz
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00:10 <Flex> how goes Mr Monkey Man!
00:13 <epsy> http://80.135.36.72/ ...now whose server is this..
00:17 <Flex> i'm willing to bet it's the home page of france
00:17 <epsy> i didn't know frence hosted master1.armagetronad.net :)
00:17 <epsy> france * :)
00:17 <Flex> harhar you said frence
00:18 <Flex> let's do a vulnerability scan on it and haxor it!
00:19 <epsy> right, it's z-man's server
00:21 <Flex> Monkey_arma, is setanta sports unecripted to you?
00:22 <epsy> z-man, if you still have logs can you check for queries from IP 88.198.22.100 on the 2nd of june around 10 AM ? thanks :)
00:22 <Flex> why?
00:23 <epsy> Flex, https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/220195
00:24 <Flex> :o
00:29 <z-man> epsy: which server is that?
00:29 <epsy> do you mean it's server name?
00:29 <Flex> epsy, what's the use with logging into global ID on a website?
00:30 <z-man> Ah, you meanthe master logs?
00:30 <epsy> yes
00:30 <epsy> Flex, using one GID everywhere
00:31 <epsy> same password, etc
00:32 <luke-jr> would it break much to have Author name be armaauth logins?
00:32 <z-man> [2008/06/02 10:09:29] [1] Received login from 88.198.22.100:4539 via socket 80.135.13.4:4533.
00:32 <z-man> [2008/06/02 10:11:10] [1] Received login from 88.198.22.100:4539 via socket 80.135.13.4:4533.
00:32 <z-man> [2008/06/02 10:11:10] [2] Received login from 88.198.22.100:51452 via socket 80.135.13.4:4533.
00:32 <z-man> the 51452 port looks odd.
00:32 <epsy> ok, so it's the server which has the bug :)
00:33 <z-man> looks like it.
00:33 <epsy> luke-jr, Author name as in Display name ?
00:33 <luke-jr> for resources
00:33 <epsy> nice idea
00:34 <luke-jr> not sure how it could work, tho
00:34 <luke-jr> Windows will have problems with : in filenames at least
00:37 <z-man> Epsy: I guess it would be best if the comparison just ignores the port.
00:37 <z-man> Thing is, servers can listen on multiple ports, so there is no "right" one anyway.
00:38 <epsy> i would tend to agree with that
00:38 <z-man> Of course, there also is no "right" IP in some cases. Hmm.
00:38 <epsy> but this port coming to sit in sn_myAddress is kind of troubling
00:40 <Flex> http://www.myspace.com/akaimakai
00:40 <z-man> Yeah.
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01:20 <epsy> #nock-o-meter epsy
01:20 <epsy> #nick-o-meter epsy
01:28 <Flex> epsy
01:28 <epsy> Flex
01:28 <Flex> whens your birthday
01:28 <epsy> 28th of june
01:28 <epsy> #time
01:28 <Flex> can i come to your party :D
01:28 <epsy> heh
01:30 <Flex> i wonder who will remember my birthday first :p
01:31 <Flex> lol epsy
01:31 <epsy> ? :)
01:33 <epsy> mm let me remember
01:33 <epsy> isn't it the 14th of june ?
01:33 <epsy> nah hat do you think?! of course i remembered it!
01:34 <Flex> i thought i put it wrong on there :p
01:34 <Flex> or you could keep guessing
01:34 <epsy> i can put it wrong for you :P
01:35 <Flex> you're gemini right
01:35 <Flex> a theory to your mood swings..
01:35 <epsy> what is that?
01:35 <Flex> what is what
01:37 <Flex> smoking some heavy shit in the jungle and desert, they saw things in the sky
01:38 <Flex> they were like, yo homie doesn't that look like a smoking pipe to you?
01:39 <Flex> and the other one was like, yo dawg i just saw that hoe last night i smashed.. she was bangginn
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01:40 <Flex> and the other one is like, yo what the hell homie! that was my wife!
01:40 <Flex> and the other one is like, Oops!
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01:51 <ivantis> i just watched like the bestest movie!
01:52 <noob13> -.-
01:52 <noob13> good for you!
01:52 <ivantis> yeah
01:52 <ivantis> kung fu panda
01:52 <ivantis> it was sooooo cooooool!
01:52 <ivantis> not really, it stunk
01:53 <noob13> thanks for sharing :)
01:53  * noob13 will not watch kung fu panda..
01:53 <noob13> ever.
01:54 <Flex> because you're a homo?
01:54 <ivantis> whos a homo?
01:54 <ivantis> you?
01:55 <noob13> Flex. yes, that makes sense..
01:55 <Flex> noob13 is a homo!
01:57 <ivantis> noob13 is a noobo
01:57 <ivantis> why the name noob13?
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01:59 <Flex> because he's a noob from the 1300's
01:59 <ivantis> "yes, that makes sense..."
01:59 <ivantis> course it does
02:02 <ivantis> wow, this is weird. im looking at my websites log, and it says some people in Australia visited, Czech Republic, Switzerland
02:02 <ivantis> all kinds of places
02:02 <ivantis> germany, uk, ireland
02:02 <ivantis> canada
02:03 <epsy> what is your website about ? :)
02:03 <ivantis> its all about ME!
02:03 <Flex> that's going to cost you extra bandwidth because they're from over seas man
02:03 <Flex> might want to watch your bill!
02:03 <epsy> lol
02:03 <ivantis> im hosted by someone else
02:04 <ivantis> but it costs more money for people overseas?
02:04 <ivantis> on your internet bill?
02:04 <epsy> nah
02:07 <ivantis> well what did you mean?
02:07 <Flex> yeah i heard if you surf on european sites it's going to double the price
02:07 <ivantis> where is Slovenia?
02:07 <Flex> eastern europe
02:07 <ivantis> Italy, Slovakia..
02:08 <Flex> around greece
02:08 <ivantis> India, Venezuela, Norway
02:08 <ivantis> how do these people find it?
02:09 <ivantis> look at http://s44.sitemeter.com/rpc/v6/server.php?a=GetChart&n=9&p1=s44ivantis&p2=&p3=83&p4=0&p5=71%2E158%2E209%2E58&p6=HTML&p7=1&p8=%2E%3Fa%3Dstatistics&p9=&rnd=52361
02:11 <epsy> lol it doesn't , except if user agents have to request everything twice because of packet loss :«
02:12 <ivantis> do any of you guys use dog?
02:12 <ivantis> as in "better than cat"
02:15 <epsy> i don't think so :P
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02:21 <ivantis> oh
02:21 <ivantis> its like a command line based browser
02:22 <ivantis> just like cat, but you can use it like "dog http://somenet.com"
02:23 <ivantis> well, this chat is officially dead
02:23 <epsy> :P
02:24 <ivantis> ugh, there is a disturbing crying baby in the same house as me
02:25 <epsy> right, good night
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02:26 <ivantis> good night? its 7:30
02:27 <ivantis> but i must go anyway
02:27 <ivantis> bye all
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02:49 <Durka> Monkey_arma: wtf do u want
02:49 <Flex> mr million bucks
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12:34 <Monkey_arma> where the fuck is armabot?
12:55 <akira_arma> Ikilled it
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13:09 <guru3> Flex: email changes require re verification of your e-mail address. same as when you register
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14:13 <Monkey_arma> hey
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16:47 <Flex> Monkey_arma, watching today?
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16:49 <Monkey_arma> i will be
16:49 <Monkey_arma> if you mean euro
16:50 <Flex> no i mean the porno
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17:02 <Monkey_arma> You found a bug in GNU Parted! Here's what you have to do:
17:02 <Monkey_arma> Don't panic! The bug has most likely not affected any of your data.
17:02 <Monkey_arma> Help us to fix this bug by doing the following:
17:02 <Monkey_arma> aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
17:03 <Flex> n00b
17:07 <hoax> it's still going?
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17:14 <Monkey_arma> no hoax i was able to suspend it then kill it while suspended
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17:15 <hoax> takes soo long u think its froze or smth
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17:29  * madmax needs to put his powerbook on ice during summer
17:29 <madmax> Monkey_arma: so, did you upgrade your computer yet?
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17:47  * epsy says Monkey_arma should update his hard drive first
17:47 <epsy> ah i've got it !
17:50 <epsy> z-man, i think i found where the control port comes in at the wrong place
17:51 <Monkey_arma> madmax epsy i have upgraded to newest version of parted...we will see if bug has been fixed in that
17:52 <madmax> last time I tried (g)parted it didn't do what I told him to
17:52 <madmax> lower your expectations
17:54 <Monkey_arma> well 2 times out of 2 it fails. last time (a few years ago) it also failed
17:54 <epsy> z-man, but basically what would fix it would be to NOT « try a generic socket » in nServerInfo::TellMasterAboutMe
17:55 <epsy> oh, and is sn_Connections[0].socket supposed to be the control sock or not?
17:56 <Monkey_arma> omg I installed the new parted and it cant find shared library libparted
17:56 <epsy> cough slack ftw
17:56 <epsy> :)
17:57 <Monkey_arma> er wrong
17:57 <Monkey_arma> parted is not part of official slack becuase its too buggy
17:57 <Monkey_arma> its in extras directory
17:57 <epsy> ..lol..
17:57 <Monkey_arma> i got this shit from gnu
17:57 <Monkey_arma> they recommend partition magic in slack
17:57 <epsy> parted always worked correctly for me
17:58 <Monkey_arma> well you are the only one then
17:58 <madmax> lol
17:58 <epsy> is that this norton thing?
17:58 <epsy> er
17:58 <Monkey_arma> try resizing logical partitions within an extended partition
17:58 <epsy> not norton, the company who edits it
17:58 <Monkey_arma> me, max, hoax...who else has parted not worked for
17:58 <epsy> not now :)
17:58 <Monkey_arma> partition magic is not norton
17:59 <madmax> didn't they buy it recently?
17:59 <epsy> Download PartitionMagic
17:59 <epsy> www.symantec.fr      Organize your desktop - partition your hard drive. Official website.
17:59 <epsy> that's what i thought
17:59 <Monkey_arma> symantec
17:59 <hoax> hmm my hd was already broke really, but slag off gparted all the way
17:59 <epsy> <epsy> not norton, the company who edits it
18:00 <Monkey_arma> yes correct
18:00 <Monkey_arma> seems norton have gotten their fat fingers in this pie
18:01 <epsy> since some time they own it i think
18:01 <Monkey_arma> well parted has always failed me
18:01 <Monkey_arma> so fuck it
18:01  * epsy not
18:01 <madmax> whoa 2003 :o
18:01 <epsy> windows xp is 2001
18:03 <Monkey_arma> oh and btw epsy, slack has www.slackbuilds.org which means that slack+slackbuilds=distro
18:03 <epsy> ok?
18:03 <Monkey_arma> and it pwns
18:03 <Monkey_arma> even has arma in it ;)
18:03 <epsy> ok?
18:05 <Flex> Monkey_arma, want a friendly bet for who wins against germany?
18:05 <Monkey_arma> who wins against them?
18:06 <Flex> their game i mean
18:06 <Monkey_arma> they wont lose
18:06 <Flex> actually first austria v croatia
18:06 <Monkey_arma> yes im watching that
18:06 <Flex> damn it's started already
18:07 <Flex> a goal aready
18:07 <Monkey_arma> yes a penalty
18:07 <Flex> lol!
18:08 <madmax> oO
18:08 <madmax> from who?
18:09 <madmax> nvm
18:11 <Monkey_arma> austrian defender gave away penalty
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18:14 <Monkey_arma> epsy it turns out that slack 12.1 uses the latest version anyway (i have been too lazy to upgrade)
18:14 <Monkey_arma> ok?
18:14 <Monkey_arma> ok?
18:18 <epsy> ok
18:19 <Flex> they gave us lemons.. we made lemonade..
18:20 <hoax> austria living up to expectations
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18:25 <ivantis> ha!
18:25 <Flex> ha!
18:25 <ivantis> dont try to hide from me
18:25 <ivantis> i see all of you chatting in wrtls logs
18:25 <Flex> lol
18:25 <ivantis> ha!
18:26 <Flex> hoax, what's the expectations? i haven't been paying attention
18:27 <hoax> the hosts have the worst odds
18:27 <Flex> ah yeah 100 to 1
18:27 <hoax> austria are ranked like 90
18:27 <epsy> #cfg2 help
18:27 <Flex> oh, last time i checked it was 100
18:27 <epsy> argh
18:27 <hoax> they dont even like football
18:28 <hoax> sry, 'soccer'
18:28 <ivantis> whats #cfg2?
18:28 <Flex> so how did they qualify...
18:28 <Flex> and england didn't
18:28 <ivantis> #cfg
18:28 <hoax> hosts always get automatic qualification innit
18:28 <Flex> hhah weak
18:28 <ivantis> #help
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18:28 <epsy> ivantis, ct's version of cfg
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18:29 <epsy> they update it more regularly
18:29 <ivantis> hey! armabot's not online
18:29 <epsy> indeed, and it wont be until the 13th
18:29 <ivantis> why?
18:29 <epsy> because wrtlprnft's away until the 13th :P
18:30 <ivantis> why cant armabot be on?
18:30 <hoax> i thought armabot went on a soul seeking hike in sweeden
18:30 <epsy> i don't know, you will have to ask him
18:30 <ivantis> maybe wrtl is armabot
18:30 <ivantis> just a bot
18:30 <ivantis> hahahaha
18:30 <epsy> Could you elaborate on that?
18:31 <ivantis> no thank you, i mean no.
18:31 <ivantis> maybe wrtlprnft is really armabot, and just answers all your questions
18:31 <ivantis> i was joking when i said that
18:31 <Flex> harhar :D
18:32 <epsy> you are holding the proof ivantis
18:32 <epsy> z-man-work/z-man: online?
18:32 <ivantis> ok, i need to go do something, ill be back later
18:32 <ivantis> bye
18:32 <epsy> bb
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18:35 <ivantis> ok, nbm
18:35 <ivantis> by that i mean nebbermind
18:35 <ivantis> you know, i have never seen noob7 online
18:36 <Flex> he does not exist
18:36 <ivantis> who is he?
18:36 <Flex> a part of your imagination
18:36 <ivantis> oh
18:36 <ivantis> i see
18:39 <Flex> ivantis, what nick do you play under in-game?
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18:44 <ivantis> what?
18:44 <ivantis> ivantis is my nick
18:44 <ivantis> all over
18:48 <ivantis> well, now i must go
18:48 <ivantis> yeah, now
18:48 <ivantis> now!
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19:44 <hoax> austria own the 2nd half :o
19:46  * epsy agrees 100%
19:47 <hoax> they at least deserve a point
19:51 <hoax> oh well
19:51 <hoax> bbqage ftw
19:52 <Flex> lol
19:59 <Monkey_arma> ye they did well
19:59 <Monkey_arma> shouldve been 1-1
20:00 <Flex> omg lewis is out of the canadian thingy
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20:41 <FoFoLiNo> CT vs X in 1 hours 18 mins , guys dont forget .
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20:42 <epsy> woohoo, the mismatch bug is GONE!
20:42 <epsy> :°
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21:02 <ivantis> ha!
21:05 <epsy> !ah
21:06 <Flex> Mmm, fried chicken, fly vixen
21:06 <Flex> Give me heart disease but need you in my kitchen
21:06 <ivantis> d[0.0]b
21:08 <Flex> Don't know what part of you I love best
21:08 <Flex> Your legs or your breast
21:08 <epsy> you should write a poetry book flex, seriousely
21:08 <Flex> thanks
21:09 <ivantis> that sounds like one of my friends poems for our english class poetry unit
21:09 <Flex> he must of been hungry
21:09 <ivantis> "I like chicken, it is good"
21:09 <ivantis> "Bake it, grill it, fry it,"
21:09 <ivantis> "It's always good"
21:09 <ivantis> he rhymed good with good
21:09 <ivantis> terrible
21:09 <epsy> haha
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21:10 <ivantis> woops, i clicked the wrong thing
21:10 <epsy> you're on the way of choosing a real IRC client
21:10 <ivantis> me?
21:10 <epsy> you
21:10 <ivantis> i have a real irc client, im just using one
21:11 <ivantis> **fake one
21:11 <ivantis> the mibbit
21:11 <ivantis> i dont want to download anything, this isnt my computer
21:13 <epsy> oh i see, are you using your own computer sometimes? :)
21:14 <ivantis> yeah
21:14 <ivantis> sometimes
21:14 <ivantis> but im away on vacation
21:14 <epsy> '..happens..'
21:14 <Flex> oh germany 1 - 0 poland
21:14 <ivantis> and the lazy man at my house who is my remote hand hasnt turned my computer on yet
21:14 <ivantis> so i cant use it
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21:18 <ivantis> does X window tunneling work on mac os x?
21:18 <ivantis> with "ssh -x uname@whatever.ath.cx"?
21:18 <epsy> as long as X window and ssh work on OSX, which is the case, yes
21:19 <luke-jr> ivantis: -X must be uppercase
21:19 <ivantis> not on os x
21:19 <luke-jr> and you need to ssh from an xterm I think
21:19 <luke-jr> Terminal doesn't have the X11 environemnet
21:19 <ivantis> lame
21:20 <ivantis> so "xterm" then in the xterm "ssh -x uname@host">
21:20 <ivantis> ?
21:20 <luke-jr> UPPERCASE X
21:20 <ivantis> no, it says unknown on mac os x
21:20 <ivantis> foo'
21:20 <luke-jr> then I guess not
21:20 <epsy> :X
21:20 <luke-jr> lowercase '-x' disables X11 forwarding
21:20 <luke-jr>      -X      Enables X11 forwarding.  This can also be specified on a per-host
21:20 <ivantis> thats gay
21:20 <luke-jr>      -x      Disables X11 forwarding.
21:21 <ivantis> is anyone here on mac os x?
21:21 <ivantis> on "ssh -h"
21:22 <ivantis> it says "-x: enable x11 tunneling"
21:22 <ivantis> on os x
21:23 <ivantis> but on all other computers, its CaPiTaL X
21:23 <luke-jr> then OS X is stupid
21:23 <ivantis> BSD is stupid, ps -e is ps auxwww
21:23 <ivantis> brb, got to do something
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21:25 <epsy> zmanuel, well, i finally fixed the bug, thx for helping :)
21:25 <zmanuel> err I didn't do anything :)
21:26 <zmanuel> What did you do? Disable the fallback to the control socket?
21:26 <epsy> without your help i wouldn't have been able to do anything
21:26 <epsy> basically,yes
21:26 <zmanuel> k, sensible solution.
21:26 <epsy> well, only if GLOBAL_ID is on
21:29 <zmanuel> Perfect.
21:29  * zmanuel is off to XP again, yay for Multiwina beta testing
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21:34 <K-Yo> epsy, hoax Flex flashyy: I can't promise anything for tonight, it seems that there have been a misunderstanding
21:34 <epsy> and, what is this misunderstanding?
21:35 <K-Yo> what is xclan IRC chan?
21:36 <hoax> arma.xclan
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21:42 <Monkey_arma> actually ivantis has a point on that single issue..i prefer ps -el instead of ps aux
21:44 <Monkey_arma> altthough BSD init scripts and other things pwn in general
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Log from 2008-06-09:
--- Day changed Mon Jun 09 2008
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00:05 <P4> hey luke-jr, why your resource repostiory servers are lagged so much?
00:05 <P4> i'm trying to mirror it with wget and it's really hard to perform
00:06 <luke-jr> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 70.312/71.995/74.555/1.005 ms
00:06 <luke-jr> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 139.696/147.053/155.325/4.369 ms
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00:07 <luke-jr> looks pretty decent to me
00:07 <luke-jr> for a http server
00:07 <luke-jr> and if you're going to mirror it, don't use wget
00:07 <luke-jr> rtfwiki
00:07 <P4> rtfwiki?
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00:08 <luke-jr> wiki has mirror instructions
00:09 <P4> i see
00:09 <P4> rtf stands for ms reach text format ;)
00:11 <luke-jr> only in your mind
00:11 <P4> #wtf rtf
00:11 <P4> luke-jr: vera: RTF Rich Text Format
00:11 <P4> :þ
00:11 <luke-jr> p4 fail
00:11 <P4> never mind, gnight
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01:23 <ivantis> hey everyone who was here when i said brb like 3 hours ago
01:23 <ivantis> im baaack!
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02:05 <madmax> oh noes! :P
02:05 <ivantis> yea
02:05 <Monkey_arma> * * * W E L C O M E   B A C K * * *
02:05 <ivantis> thanks
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03:45 <ivantis> hello?
03:45 <ivantis> is anyone there?
03:47 <StickyNoob> yo
03:48 <ivantis> hello
03:48 <StickyNoob> your very active recently
03:50 <StickyNoob> been playing long then?
03:50 <ivantis> yeah
03:50 <StickyNoob> rubber, ctf, fort?
03:50 <ivantis> yeah
03:51 <StickyNoob> all of them?
03:51 <ivantis> yeah
03:51 <StickyNoob> hmm surprised i havent seen you in fort
03:51 <ivantis> i like shooting best
03:51 <ivantis> im sometimes at fortress cafe
03:51 <StickyNoob> yeah, by far the best server
03:52 <StickyNoob> shooting is terrible
03:52 <ivantis> shooting rules!
03:52 <ivantis> why is it terrible?
03:52 <StickyNoob> makes attacking too easy and def too hard
03:52 <ivantis> whatever
03:52 <ivantis> Fortress Shootout is fun
03:54 <ivantis> ok, there is an annoying (2 actually) people near me
03:54 <ivantis> i must go
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03:54 <StickyNoob> huh?
03:54 <ivantis> i *have* to go
03:55 <ivantis> requested by the annoying people
03:55 <StickyNoob> why does people near you mean you must go
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04:18 <ivantis> is anyone still there?
04:20 <StickyNoob> yes
04:20 <ivantis> goodness
04:20 <ivantis> i got rid of the annoying people
04:20 <StickyNoob> where are you, that you are being forced to do things by annoying people
04:21 <ivantis> i am at my grandmas house, being annoyed by my aunts friends daughters
04:21 <ivantis> a long story
04:21 <StickyNoob> ahh
04:21 <StickyNoob> your gran has the net, wow
04:22 <ivantis> yea
04:22 <StickyNoob> mine has never heard of it
04:22 <ivantis> its even faster than my net
04:22 <ivantis> haha
04:22 <ivantis> 21345687894512313
04:24 <StickyNoob> ??
04:24 <ivantis> oops, pressed the Num-pad
04:25 <ivantis> stickynoob, whats ur in game name?
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04:26 <StickyNoob> Sticky
04:26 <StickyNoob> or rather |x| Sticky
04:29 <ivantis> o
04:29 <ivantis> i seen you
04:29 <StickyNoob> oh
04:29 <ivantis> right now i  can only play on icemans nuke zone and the tigers servers because im using 0.2.8_alpha client
04:30 <ivantis> and i dont remember how to get the good one
04:30 <ivantis> ;(
04:30 <StickyNoob> download it
04:30 <ivantis> but thats only on this computer
04:30 <ivantis> and its vista
04:30 <ivantis> which sucks
04:31 <StickyNoob> your gran has vista?
04:31 <ivantis> yeah
04:31 <ivantis> dumb idea if you ask me
04:31 <StickyNoob> my god, she got blue ray too?
04:31 <ivantis> no
04:31 <ivantis> only satellite cable
04:31 <ivantis> which is better than me
04:31 <StickyNoob> you dont like vista?
04:31 <ivantis> i hate vista
04:32 <StickyNoob> why?
04:32 <ivantis> idk, its just... it doesnt feel right
04:32 <luke-jr> use a sane OS
04:32 <ivantis> well, nothing microsoft feels right, but this is worse
04:33 <ivantis> if i HAD to use windows, it would be xp
04:33 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: i forget, what distro you on
04:33 <luke-jr> Gentoo still
04:33 <StickyNoob> has it finnished compiling yet?
04:33 <ivantis> im thinking about debian
04:33 <StickyNoob> </troll>
04:34 <ivantis> what?
04:34 <StickyNoob> ivantis: new to linux?
04:34 <ivantis> kind of
04:34 <StickyNoob> try ubuntu before debain
04:34 <StickyNoob> bit more noob friendly
04:34 <ivantis> ive been using ubuntu since febuary i think
04:34 <StickyNoob> ahh
04:34 <ivantis> something like that
04:34 <ct|kyle> no go strait to gentoo :D
04:35 <StickyNoob> nooooooo
04:35 <ivantis> im used to mac
04:35 <ivantis> sticky, whats yours?
04:35 <StickyNoob> mostly ubuntu
04:35 <StickyNoob> but i do have some debian installs and a suse box
04:36 <ivantis> i like ubuntu for its feel
04:36 <ivantis> plus i have a bunch of stuff thats only for ubuntu on it
04:36 <StickyNoob> such as?
04:36 <ivantis> the patched 0.2.8_alpha server!
04:37 <ivantis> it took me like 2 weeks with a lot of irc help
04:37 <ivantis> and i cant even remember how to do it
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04:37 <StickyNoob> ahh right, you mean youve patched together a working server, not produced a server that will only run on ubuntu
04:38 <ivantis> no
04:38 <ivantis> wait, what?
04:38 <StickyNoob> well producing something that would only work on ubuntu would be quite bizzare
04:38 <ivantis> arent the binaries dependant?
04:39 <ivantis> like you need to recompile on different os'
04:39 <ivantis> brb
04:39 <StickyNoob> yeah but for different os you just recompile, its free software
04:41 <ivantis> i know, but i lost all the stuff for automake in upgrading
04:41 <ivantis> lousy ftp client
04:43 <StickyNoob> i wouldnt recomend moving to debian, it wasnt a happy move for me.  Once I got it running I confirmed that all the problems i was trying to get away from in ubuntu were still in debian too (remember ubuntu is a 99.9% debian clone) yet some of the niceities of ubuntu were gone
04:44 <ivantis> oh
04:44 <ivantis> then maybe i shouldnt
04:44 <ivantis> is slackware good?
04:44 <StickyNoob> OMG
04:44 <StickyNoob> have you been talking to Monkey?
04:44 <ivantis> no
04:45 <ivantis> but i know he raves about it
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04:46 <StickyNoob> if you want to learn about linux fine, but if you want an OS that just works easily out the box dont bother
04:46 <ivantis> ok
04:46 <ivantis> so whats the best?
04:46 <ivantis> ubuntu?
04:47 <StickyNoob> for me i prefer kubuntu, but its all a personal choice
04:47 <ivantis> is bsd good?
04:47 <StickyNoob> never tried it but ive heard good things
04:47 <ivantis> hmm
04:47 <ivantis> maybe freebsd
04:48 <ivantis> thats what c10ud runs his servers on
04:48 <StickyNoob> ive thought about trying  solaris
04:48 <ivantis> ive heard bad things about solaris
04:48 <ivantis> but maybe
04:48 <ivantis> i never used it
04:49 <StickyNoob> you know bsd is not linux right?
04:49 <ivantis> yeah
04:50 <ivantis> why did no one setup an armabot mirror while wrtl is away?
04:51 <StickyNoob> is ljrbot around
04:51 <ivantis> no
04:52 <ivantis> im using mibbit's chat
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04:53 <ivantis> and why didnt wrtl leave armabot up? his logs are still on
04:54 <StickyNoob> ljrbot is online, bug luke-jr to get him in here
04:55 <ivantis> that doesnt make any sense, if hes online, why get him in here?
04:55 <ivantis> what?
04:55 <ivantis> luke-jr, get that bot of yours online
04:55 <luke-jr> it's working just fine you retards
04:56 <ivantis> what does he take?
04:56 <ivantis> #disclaimer
04:56 <ivantis> he must be broken
04:56 <ivantis> #sd D u r k a
04:57 <StickyNoob> "/msg ljrbot ls Sticky" works
04:58 <ivantis> its bein stupid
04:58 <ivantis> or really slow
04:58 <ivantis> im gettin nothing
04:58 <ivantis> \/msg ljrbot ls ivantis doesnt do anything
04:59 <StickyNoob> you may need to authenticate with freenode to send pm's
04:59 <ivantis> grr
04:59 <ivantis> fine
04:59 <ivantis> oh, it popped up on a new tab in mibbit
05:00 <ivantis> sweet
05:00 <ivantis> but it doesnt mirror the disclaimer!
05:01 <StickyNoob> right -> bed
05:01 <StickyNoob> nn
05:02 <ivantis> what?
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14:49 <Flex> my computer is about to explode...
14:49 <Flex> the heat is seriously destorying something!!!
14:50 <Flex> i'll just turn off the fan so it shuts the fuck up!
15:18 <StickyNoob> heh yes when your computer is overheating turning off the fan is a good solution
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16:48 <Flex> there we go, my comp finally froze
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17:05 <StickyNoob> Flex: turn the fan on too high?
17:06 <Flex> yeah it was on high constantly, but it wasn't me..
17:10 <StickyNoob> im so buying a cheap freezer and turning it into a pc case
17:11 <Flex> ah nice idea
17:11 <Flex> those mini freezers are like so much cheaper then those stupid branded cases
17:11 <StickyNoob> could get some decent over clocking
17:12 <Flex> yeah
17:12 <StickyNoob> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/179744-29-freezer-possible
17:14 <Flex> lol
17:15 <StickyNoob> only issue is you couldnt turn your pc off, since ice could form on the fan
17:15 <Flex> you wouldn't need the fan anyway
17:15 <StickyNoob> you probably would
17:16 <Flex> na the fridge would do all the air work..
17:16 <Flex> i think
17:16 <StickyNoob> still need to circulate air
17:16 <Flex> a good point is.. if the freezer can handle it
17:17 <Flex> a mini freezer might not be able to take that sort of work
17:17 <StickyNoob> well its not really a viable idea i dont think
17:18 <StickyNoob> look at all the conensation and moisture in your fridge, would play hell with your pc
17:18 <Flex> well if you're just looking for a good temp in the summer fine, but doing heavy overclocking, can't depend on it
17:19 <Flex> yeah conensation.. but that wouldn't be an issue really, it would get the temp down and keep it down
17:21 <StickyNoob> only noobs have pc's that overheat anyway
17:21 <Flex> :D true
17:21 <StickyNoob> (he says as he submits heafty batch jobs to his passively cooled qx6700)
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17:24 <Flex> StickyNoob, http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/06/thermalrights-computer-case-is-all-cooling-all-the-time/
17:25 <Flex> http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37832/135/
17:30 <StickyNoob> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showphoto.php?src=/pimg/CA-141-CM_400.jpg&name=Coolermaster%20Stacker%20830%20Evolution%20%20-%20Nvidia%20Special%20Edition%20(No%20PSU) this case has been fairly popular at the few lans ive been to
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17:31 <Flex> looks nice
17:31 <Flex> how much
17:31 <StickyNoob> 170
17:31 <Flex> water cooling for me tbh
17:31 <Flex> fuck those fans
17:32 <StickyNoob> water is such a hastle tho
17:32 <Flex> it's much better then fans
17:32 <StickyNoob> nice idea just not worth the effort
17:32 <Flex> the effort is worth it when you don't hear jet engines cooling your space station
17:33 <StickyNoob> i recon you can passively cool a q6600
17:33 <Flex> what point are people going to think "hey we can't keep putting extra fans on this stuff"
17:33 <StickyNoob> they have for ages
17:33 <Flex> yeah, but now it's not possible to keep at it
17:34 <StickyNoob> thats why all the new cpus are getting much better power performance
17:34 <Flex> there's a limit and we're at it almost
17:34 <StickyNoob> people were saying that 10 years ago
17:35 <StickyNoob> and 15 and 20 ...
17:35 <Flex> fans 10/15/20 years ago were new!
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17:36 <StickyNoob> naaa i think we have had fans since at least roman times
17:36 <Flex> lol
17:36 <Flex> ok dude, you go with fans, i'm happy with my silent water cooling plan
17:37 <StickyNoob> and i promis not to laugh when you computer leaks, or takes you days to move or runs out of water and dies
17:38 <Flex> and i promise not to laugh when you go death because of those insane jet engines running while idle
17:38 <StickyNoob> its passively cooled
17:39 <StickyNoob> ok ill admit to 1 fan on the psu
17:39 <Flex> because you've already lost the hearing!
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17:53 <Monkey_arma> wow its hot
17:54 <Flex> orly?
17:55 <Flex> #weather
17:55 <StickyNoob> #nobot
17:56  * StickyNoob realises he still has the central heating on
17:56 <Flex> lol
17:57 <Monkey_arma> 26 degrees at 5pm
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18:10 <Flex> http://www.imeem.com/people/CVaL41L/music/EvQJxMrS/zwsaz1yahoocom_tron_gameplay_music/
18:11 <StickyNoob> who is  zwsaz1@yahoo.com
18:12 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18450
18:16 <StickyNoob> the in game music realy reminds me of something but i cant think what
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18:25 <Flex> i think he's GonInVeR
18:25 <Flex> ingame nick
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18:25 <Flex> or they might be different people
18:26 <pippijn> torres: { int (*fun) () = jitcomp ("leaf 0\nmovi_i %ret, 20\nret\n").cast (); cout << fun (); }
18:26 <torres> 20
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20:15 <pippijn> hey zmanuel
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21:27 <xfroggy> f
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21:34 <epsy> g
21:37 <xfroggy> e
21:37 <K-Yo> ^o)
21:37 <epsy> rr..?
21:37 <luke-jr> d
21:37 <xfroggy> ...
21:38 <madmax> oO
21:39 <epsy> Oo
21:40 <xfroggy> O.o
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22:20 <Monkey_arma> hollaaaaaaand!!!!!!!
22:20 <Monkey_arma> haha
22:25 <Flex> wtf
22:25 <Flex> 3-0?
22:25 <Flex> is that true?
22:27 <akira_arma> yes flex
22:27 <akira_arma> :)
22:28 <akira_arma> YAYAYA
22:28 <akira_arma> :D
22:28 <Flex> insane
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22:32 <akira_arma> #tea
22:33 <akira_arma> ........
22:33  * akira_arma kicks Lucifer around a bit.
22:33 <K-Yo> akira_arma, #crazy-tronners has a  bot
22:34 <akira_arma> ugh
22:34 <akira_arma> i'd rather defile a jewish altar before going to ctf
22:37 <K-Yo> what has this to do with ctf?
22:38 <akira_arma> ;)
22:38 <akira_arma> disgust?
22:38 <akira_arma> taste?
22:39 <epsy> i wonder what he means with ctf
22:39 <Monkey_arma> akira ctwf you mean
22:39 <Monkey_arma> ctf is capture the flag
22:39 <K-Yo> I mean, you were trying to ask a bot if there were players on café, so I tell you that there is "tronner" on the channel #crazy-tronners who can do that
22:39 <akira_arma> ,,,,,,,,,,
22:39 <akira_arma> i know
22:39 <akira_arma> i am just ina  crabby mood
22:39 <akira_arma> :)
22:39 <K-Yo> oh ok
22:39 <K-Yo> :)
22:39 <akira_arma> and shooting it at everyone in sight
22:40 <Monkey_arma> akira yes i can see
22:40 <Monkey_arma> i havent seen you this agressive before
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22:43 <Monkey_arma> but dont worry :)
22:44 <akira_arma> ?
22:44 <akira_arma> i dont worry
22:44 <epsy> is he even aggressive?
22:44 <Monkey_arma> not as agressive as you epsy
22:44 <Monkey_arma> you are a nutzor
22:45 <hoax> epsys not a nutter
22:45 <epsy> i don't see any aggressivity in akira_arma's chat, really
22:45 <epsy> im a nutter when you want me to be one.
22:45 <hoax> ur just a moody cunt
22:45 <Monkey_arma> haha
22:46 <K-Yo> anyone for café?
22:46 <akira_arma> .........
22:46 <epsy> don't worry i'll make cafe lag
22:46 <epsy> install scripts hanging again on marvin :(
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22:48 <epsy> wb
22:49 <hoax> thx
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22:53 <StickyNoob> !tea
22:54 <Lackadaisical> #tea
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05:35 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
05:35 <Stewie-arma> what?
05:35 <Stewie-arma> armabot not here?
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06:42 <ivantis> do anyone be here?
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16:59 <epsy> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=578907&cid=23721883
16:59 <epsy> is it one of 2020 and concord or not, that is our question
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17:15 <StickyNoob> epsy: huh?
17:17 <epsy> look how the post is written
17:17 <epsy> oh, well, you don't read the forums, you can't understand :P
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17:18 <StickyNoob> well i have had the pleasure of 2020s
17:18 <StickyNoob> unuseual
17:18 <StickyNoob> writting style
17:18 <StickyNoob> on
17:18 <StickyNoob> occasions
17:18 <epsy> 2020's style was OK, it had some sense
17:19 <epsy> concord's is just messed up :/
17:20 <StickyNoob> reading slashdot comments, thats quite hardcore
17:21 <StickyNoob> ive moved on to youtube comments for arguments that make you want to gauge your eyes out
17:21 <epsy> lol
17:22 <StickyNoob> had to stop reddit, people were far too reasonable
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Log from 2008-06-11:
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01:33 <Flex> a random comment: "Anyway, now Hillary is gone, time to start on the McCain hate?"
01:33 <Flex> these guys complain about fox news.. but they go around the internet doing the same shit
01:35 <Flex> getting tired of this bullshit, fucking pick your president so we can flush these constant news bulletins with billions of comments from chumps who are fanboys of some side..
01:35 <Flex>  /rant over
01:36 <Monkey_arma> can i have a rant?
01:36 <Flex> sure, mines over
01:36 <Monkey_arma> gnu parted is a fucking disgrace
01:36 <Monkey_arma>  /rant over
01:36 <Flex> that's not a rant, you punkass face!
01:36 <Monkey_arma> (but i like the interface)
01:36 <Flex>  /rant over
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01:46 <Monkey_arma> hi corn
01:46 <Corn> hey
01:53 <Corn> anyone wanna play some fort
01:53 <Corn> getting kind of bored of sumo
01:54 <StickyNoob> #tea
01:54 <StickyNoob> anyone else for fort then?
01:55 <StickyNoob> Corn: cafe??
01:56 <Corn> sure
01:56 <Corn> see if anyone else notices... heh
01:56 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: ping
01:56 <StickyNoob> Flex: ping
01:57 <Flex> i'll play for afew, then go bed
01:57 <Monkey_arma> corn who are you?
01:57 <Flex> your corny papa
01:57 <Monkey_arma> yes i'll play fort
01:57 <Corn> uhmmm i actually cant remember what alias i used in this game.. havent played for ages
01:57 <StickyNoob> hes looking ok in cafe, i say smurf
01:57 <Monkey_arma> lol
02:04 <Flex> i say pimp
02:05 <Corn> dont even know who that is
02:05 <Corn> lol
02:12 <Corn> seems sumo is the new fortress now eh?
02:13 <Corn> not many fortress games going on
02:32 <Corn> im really loving how 3.0 is shaping, theres this nice little buggish thing where if you tap glance twice it looks behind you, i love it sooo much
02:32 <Corn> it gets rid of the need for a backwards glance button
02:32 <Corn> or maybe it was intended to be like that either way i love it
02:34 <Monkey_arma> oh glance sucks in .3
02:34 <Monkey_arma> but there are console commands to make it better
02:34 <Monkey_arma> just not sure they fully solve it
02:34 <Monkey_arma> but .3 is good
02:34 <Corn> what dont you like about the glance?
02:35 <Monkey_arma> the speed is slow for a start
02:35 <Monkey_arma> not sure about the directios
02:35 <Monkey_arma> *n
02:36 <Corn> guess i've gotten used to it i dont really notice it
02:37 <Corn> how much do you wanna bet that vaclaw guy is the samuel guy that was being annoying
02:38 <Corn> both complain about swearing
02:38 <Corn> and talk too much
02:42 <Monkey_arma> he is :)
02:44 <Corn> woot
02:44 <Corn> instincts ftw
02:46 <Corn> man thats some loud lightning outside
02:47 <Monkey_arma> who are you really? dont tell me you cant remember your alias :)
02:47 <Monkey_arma> you play tron well
02:47 <Corn> i seriously cant remember i would
02:47 <Corn> i use like 100 different aliases
02:48 <Monkey_arma> like?
02:48 <Corn> ...
02:48 <Corn> lol
02:48 <Corn> i dont think i can or want to name all of them
02:49 <Monkey_arma> ok
02:50 <Corn> i mean its not like its something i would hide i actually dont know
02:50 <Corn> :*
02:51 <Corn> holy shit the lightning just hit a house like on my street O.o
02:52 <Corn> i really hope i dont lose power
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05:13 <Lucifer> A suburban Kansas City man accidentally fired a 2.5-inch nail into the top of his head, but says he now feels fine after a doctor used a claw hammer to remove it.
05:14 <Corn_sumo> wtf
05:14 <ct|kyle> i don't see how people can use a nail gun backwords
05:14 <Corn_sumo> seriously.. if they do that they kind of deserve to die.. why not use miracles on people that deserve it...
05:15 <ct|kyle> that hurts bad when it goes in the skin
05:15 <ct|kyle> i got my finger once from behind the board we were nailing
05:15 <Corn_sumo> ouch
05:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle deserves to die, eh, Corn_sumo?
05:16 <Corn_sumo> just imagine what he was doing when he fired it into his head...
05:16 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: after you
05:16 <Corn_sumo> no, the guy that fired a nail into his head
05:17 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: ok, done
05:17 <luke-jr> your turn
05:17 <ct|kyle> mine was i was holding a board up and the person with the nale gun happend to aim right into my hand
05:17 <ct|kyle> #r
05:17 <ct|kyle> #roulette
05:17 <luke-jr> retard
05:17 <Corn_sumo> what kyle did is a honest mistake but wtf was the man doing when he did that? he was nailing his barn and he was wondering... what do you think would happen if i fired this into my head
05:18 <luke-jr> nah
05:18 <luke-jr> he was just holding a board up
05:18 <luke-jr> and the person with the nail gun happened to aim right into his head
05:18 <luke-jr> like ct|kyle
05:18 <ct|kyle> there was someone who nailed it into their head on their own
05:18 <Corn_sumo> you never know
05:19 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: prove it
05:19 <ct|kyle> or ask Lucifer to provide more info
05:19 <Corn_sumo> if someone else nailed the guys head there would probably be something about a court date dont you think
05:19 <ct|kyle> i gtg
05:19 <Lucifer> his friend did it, and it's on google news
05:19 <Lucifer> like, right this minute
05:20 <Lucifer> it was an accident, jeez
05:20  * Lucifer wonders if people can't google anymore :)
05:20 <ct|kyle> google what is that?
05:20 <Corn_sumo> it might of been a accident but it was a miracle that he lived
05:21 <ct|kyle> ok i gotta go
05:21 <luke-jr> Corn_sumo: nah
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05:21 <luke-jr> most people don't actually use their brains these days
05:21 <luke-jr> it's just dead tissue
05:21 <Corn_sumo> heh
05:26 <Corn_sumo> http://youtube.com/watch?v=9eHFttVqBfU now thats a miracle
05:27 <Corn_sumo> a semi crashed and crushed a guys car and the guy under the semi in the crushed car lived
05:27 <Corn_sumo> not to mention it doesnt look like he even broke any bones
05:27 <Corn_sumo> he might of though
05:27 <luke-jr> wtf are you anyhow?
05:28 <Corn_sumo> ?
05:28 <luke-jr> who are you
05:28 <luke-jr> some noob?
05:28 <Corn_sumo> i guess
05:28 <luke-jr> i c
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19:10 <Lucifer> http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/?postversion=2008061111
19:10 <Lucifer> the internet is so cool, heh
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19:38 <ivantis> when is armabot gonna be back?
19:41 <ivantis> ?
19:41 <ivantis> anyone?
19:41 <epsy> the 13th :P
19:42 <ivantis> i miss him already
19:42 <epsy> if wrtl was here, he would shoot you
19:42 <ivantis> but ljrbot is here
19:42 <epsy> it's a she he would say
19:43 <epsy> ]hello
19:43 <epsy> ]tea
19:43 <epsy> it doesn't seem very active
19:43 <ivantis> o
19:44 <ivantis> its /msg ljrbot <command> <fields>
19:44 <ivantis> but hes really slow on replying
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20:08 <ivantis> hello?
20:09 <pippijn> hi
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20:11 <ivantis> hello
20:13 <ivantis> hey z-man
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20:28 <luke-jr> there, happy?
20:28 <luke-jr> now someone tell guru3 to stop the lame *bot ban -.-
20:28 <luke-jr> so I can nick it back
20:30 <StickyNoob> why is ther a bot ban?
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20:31 <Monkey_arma> you can use me as a bot..watch
20:31 <Monkey_arma> .monkey#tea
20:31 <hoax> ]tea
20:31 <ljrbot`> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), madmax (madmax@forums), Radian, xfroggy, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ~|DS|~sunny
20:31 <Monkey_arma> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), madmax (madmax@forums), Radian, xfroggy, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ~|DS|~sunny
20:32 <StickyNoob> why does a bot need watching
20:32 <Flex> .monkey#tea
20:32 <Monkey_arma> i meant watch my deom
20:32 <Monkey_arma> demo
20:32 <Monkey_arma> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), madmax (madmax@forums), Radian, xfroggy, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ~|DS|~sunny
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20:32 <Flex> .monkey#tea
20:32 <Monkey_arma> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), madmax (madmax@forums), Radian, xfroggy, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ~|DS|~sunny
20:32 <Flex> it's not answering..
20:32 <Monkey_arma> it is
20:33 <Flex> it's just repeating your request
20:33 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: guru3 didn't want any bots but armabot at one point
20:33 <Monkey_arma> .monkey#flex
20:33 <hoax> armabots better but lj aint bad
20:33 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: now that armabot is gone, everyone seems to want ljrbot here
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20:37 <StickyNoob> ahh
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21:02 <Monkey_arma> some motherfucker has been trying to hack my ssh server
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21:02 <K-Yo> oh
21:02 <K-Yo> motherfucker him
21:04 <K-Yo> damn, freenode sucks
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21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:46 slackware sshd[19423]: Invalid user virginia from 80.191.214.17
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:46 slackware sshd[19423]: Failed password for invalid user virginia from 80.191.214.17 port 36411 ssh2
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:46 slackware sshd[19421]: Invalid user ohashi from 80.191.214.17
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:46 slackware sshd[19421]: Failed password for invalid user ohashi from 80.191.214.17 port 36378 ssh2
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:49 slackware sshd[19436]: Invalid user vicente from 80.191.214.17
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:49 slackware sshd[19436]: Failed password for invalid user vicente from 80.191.214.17 port 37013 ssh2
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:49 slackware sshd[19438]: Invalid user tanimoto from 80.191.214.17
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:49 slackware sshd[19438]: Failed password for invalid user tanimoto from 80.191.214.17 port 37117 ssh2
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:52 slackware sshd[19440]: Invalid user victor from 80.191.214.17
21:05 <Monkey_arma> Jun 11 19:40:52 slackware sshd[19440]: Failed password for invalid user victor from 80.191.214.17 port 37419 ssh2
21:05 <Monkey_arma> look at that scumbag bastard
21:06 <K-Yo> omg
21:06 <K-Yo> do you have those users on ur comp?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> no
21:06 <Monkey_arma> lol
21:06 <K-Yo> maybe it's just a mistake then :P
21:06 <Monkey_arma> mistake no
21:06 <K-Yo> a wrong address :P
21:06 <K-Yo> why not?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> there are many more of them
21:07 <Monkey_arma> its some twat who has set a bot to keep trying
21:07 <Monkey_arma> i've disabled ssh server now
21:08 <Monkey_arma> who do i report this to? anyone know? maybe StickyNoob might know...
21:11 <K-Yo> i don't
21:11 <K-Yo> maybe
21:11 <K-Yo> maybe P4 knows
21:11 <K-Yo> but I don't know if you can report to anyone
21:11 <K-Yo> internet is anarchy
21:11 <K-Yo> (not websites)
21:12 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: have you not had a computer on the net for long? those bruite force attacks are constant
21:12 <StickyNoob> install fail2ban
21:12 <Monkey_arma> i have not had ssh for long running
21:12 <StickyNoob> if you dont fail2ban you will get them 24/7
21:13 <Monkey_arma> its all from the same IP
21:13 <StickyNoob> yeah
21:13 <StickyNoob> thats how they go
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so cant i do somit bout that?
21:13 <StickyNoob> fail2ban
21:14 <StickyNoob> i have had success mailing some isp's before but after a while you realise the attacks are so constant its not worth your time
21:14 <Flex> anyone watching the match? it's raining crazy atm
21:15 <Monkey_arma> ok StickyNoob so you are saying just fuck telling isps and just disable bad IPs
21:15 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you will also realise its pointless when you find out that the owner of that computer is almost certainly no the culprit
21:15 <Monkey_arma> *disallow
21:16 <StickyNoob> fail2ban will automaticaly ban the ip's for you
21:16 <Monkey_arma> yes but surely authorities can find that computer and then work out where it is coming from
21:16 <Monkey_arma> trace upstream
21:16 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: its too constant
21:16 <Monkey_arma> ok
21:16 <StickyNoob> hardly worth their time
21:16 <Monkey_arma> so just too many motherfuckers
21:16 <StickyNoob> that computer itself is probably an exploited box
21:17 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: lolol
21:17 <luke-jr> all ssh servers have that
21:18 <Monkey_arma> right ok thx
21:18 <Monkey_arma> i dont do much net stuff you see
21:18 <StickyNoob> i can dig out my mb's of failed login logs
21:18 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: if you really want to have some fun install a honey trap
21:18 <Monkey_arma> heh that is my kind of thing :)
21:20 <StickyNoob> cool, you are being hacked by the Iranians
21:20 <Monkey_arma> oh noes
21:22 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: oh yeah the best thing you can do is move your ssh server to a different port, i havent had 1 attack since doing that
21:23 <Monkey_arma> nice advice
21:23 <Monkey_arma> i dont need the server now so i'll just fuck it off
21:23 <Monkey_arma> but in future i will do that
21:24 <StickyNoob> ahh just leav it on, they are handy
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21:25 <Monkey_arma> well i dont need it
21:25 <Monkey_arma> i dont use it
21:25 <Monkey_arma> handy for the bastard iranians maybe
21:25 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: then make it OTP only
21:26 <luke-jr> nobody bruteforcing OTP :þ
21:26 <Monkey_arma> i need to learn ssh fully before i will use it
21:26 <luke-jr> …
21:26 <Monkey_arma> idk what otp is
21:26 <StickyNoob> not much to learn
21:26 <luke-jr> one time passwords
21:26 <luke-jr> a program gives you a list of passwords
21:26 <luke-jr> you print and keep safe
21:26 <luke-jr> each works exactly once
21:27 <StickyNoob> or you can set key login only, also pretty safe
21:27 <Monkey_arma> ok
21:28 <StickyNoob> even for the truely paranoid port knocking
21:28 <Monkey_arma> some other ips im gonna see who has been attacking ;)
21:28 <StickyNoob> there is a constantly updated list on the net somewher
21:30 <Monkey_arma> fucking china lmao
21:30 <StickyNoob> i wanted to crate a package/project that pretends to be an ssh server but just continualy asks for username and password then rejects
21:30 <StickyNoob> for people who have meved their ssh port
21:30 <Monkey_arma> good idea
21:30 <StickyNoob> *moved
21:31 <Monkey_arma> i prefer the honey pot
21:31 <Monkey_arma> :)
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21:35 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: if he doesn't even use ssh, key login would be the same as no login
21:35 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: be sure it can record IPs in a public database ☺
21:36 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: but only if there's failed logins for at least 'root' or 2 accounts
21:36 <luke-jr> don't want to list accidental typos
21:36 <StickyNoob> yeah
21:46 <Monkey_arma> 16480 attempts on root
21:46 <StickyNoob> in how long?
21:46 <Monkey_arma> since april 1
21:47 <K-Yo> it's a joke
21:47 <K-Yo> :P
21:47 <Monkey_arma> no its not
21:47 <Monkey_arma> heh
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22:35 <Flex> lol
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07:13 <ivantis> whats up with armagetronad.net?
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07:14 <ivantis> its all, down
07:15 <ivantis> or is no one there?
07:15 <joda_bot> works for me
07:15 <ivantis> not for me
07:15 <ivantis> oh, now it works.
07:15 <joda_bot> :-P
07:15 <ivantis> a while ago it just wouldnt load
07:16 <ivantis> it was all slow all day
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16:40 <madmax> opera 9.5 out ftw
16:52 <StickyNoob> opera fan?
16:52 <kbblak> opera sucks
16:52 <kbblak> firefox!
16:52 <StickyNoob> used it for a while, was quite good
16:53 <StickyNoob> but FF has managed to take most of the decent functionality from it.  However the standards compliance is nice
16:53 <StickyNoob> nice in opera that is, not FF
16:58 <madmax> 9.5 is much better than the previous release
16:58 <madmax> in terms of performance, and some new features
17:00 <madmax> the address bar can now "search" in the visited pages content
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17:30 <Monkey_arma> ye i use firefox but something about it bugs me.
17:30 <Flex> http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/12/pci-express-3-0-details-surface/
17:30 <Monkey_arma> i have had some odd behaviour with the talkback plubin
17:30 <Monkey_arma> *g
17:30 <Monkey_arma> ok flex and others i need advice
17:31 <Flex> pci-e 3
17:31 <Monkey_arma> i have money but no where has the parts...well not all the parts i need
17:31 <Monkey_arma> so either i buy online
17:31 <Monkey_arma> or?
17:31 <Flex> buy pci-e 3
17:32 <Monkey_arma> but i dont need first hand parts
17:32 <Monkey_arma> i only want it for tron
17:33 <StickyNoob> have we ever done tests to establish what the limiting factor with tron is?
17:34 <Monkey_arma> i play with no details
17:34 <Monkey_arma> and im am happy with that
17:34 <Monkey_arma> i reckon a 64meg gfx card would do me
17:34 <StickyNoob> ok fine, but you want it for tron only
17:34 <Monkey_arma> with any mobo+cpu
17:34 <StickyNoob> so it would be a good idea to figure out what tron needs
17:35 <Monkey_arma> well on trunk i get a bit better fps
17:35 <Monkey_arma> im sure that setup would be plenty
17:35 <Monkey_arma> i've never bought online before becuase i dont trust it
17:35 <Flex> StickyNoob, yeah i've been wondering that too
17:35 <Flex> what exactly gives more fps
17:36 <Monkey_arma> flex..its basically better gfx card
17:36 <Monkey_arma> in many areas
17:36 <Monkey_arma> basic 3d stuff
17:36 <Monkey_arma> then if you use special effects...
17:36 <Flex> tron is quite basic i don't think it takes all the card features
17:36 <Monkey_arma> true
17:36 <Monkey_arma> although some fancy effects might a little
17:37 <Monkey_arma> but its pretty basic 3d stuff
17:37 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you say its gfx card but do you have anything to back that up?
17:37 <Monkey_arma> oh come on its obvious
17:38 <Monkey_arma> its a basic 3d game man
17:38 <Flex> lol
17:38 <Monkey_arma> it uses negligible ram
17:38 <Monkey_arma> so its cpu and gfx combo
17:39 <Monkey_arma> and being 3d, gfx would be the priority
17:39 <Monkey_arma> look how simple the game is
17:39  * StickyNoob is not totaly convinced by the assumptions
17:39 <Monkey_arma> omg u r joking
17:39 <Monkey_arma> what exactly do you think it could be other than gfx and a bit cpu?
17:40 <luke-jr> network
17:40 <Monkey_arma> hahaha
17:40 <StickyNoob> well ti could be way more cpu than gfx(i dont know) so money would be better spent on cpu than badass gfx
17:41 <Monkey_arma> sticky i want decent both
17:41 <luke-jr> better spend money on a OC3
17:41 <Monkey_arma> and as for lukes network....
17:41 <Monkey_arma> omg
17:41 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: can you believe Cox is raising the price?
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17:41 <Monkey_arma> cox?
17:41 <StickyNoob> could be blowing cache alot, so a cpu with shit loads of cache would be best
17:42 <Monkey_arma> sticky you are nuts
17:42 <StickyNoob> whys that nuts?
17:42 <Monkey_arma> tron is such a basic game
17:42 <Monkey_arma> any half decent cpu is enough
17:42 <Monkey_arma> with a gfx too
17:43 <StickyNoob> collision detection is not so simple to do efficiently
17:43 <Monkey_arma> and all the fancy settings that decrease fps are 100% gfx related
17:43 <StickyNoob> certainly the robotics simulator i use the collision detection is VERY cpu intensive
17:43 <Monkey_arma> sticky you can tell fps due to cpu by playing with no effects
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17:43 <Monkey_arma> try playing on your computer without any effects
17:44 <StickyNoob> i do
17:44 <Monkey_arma> so do i
17:44 <StickyNoob> i never turn on effects
17:44 <Monkey_arma> you play on minimum everything?
17:44 <Monkey_arma> are you sure?
17:44 <StickyNoob> yes
17:44 <Monkey_arma> so do i
17:44 <Flex> i don't think it's cache related.. at least nothing major
17:44 <Monkey_arma> but my inbuilt intel shit dont do much 3d accel
17:44 <Flex> what seems major is the 3rd stuff
17:45 <Monkey_arma> sticky do you notice much difference from lots of effects to no effects?
17:46 <StickyNoob> well ok fine whatever provided you are commited that all the problems are the gfx cards fault then get the badass card
17:46 <Monkey_arma> im not gettin any badass card
17:46 <Monkey_arma> i want a half decent cpu and same for gfx
17:46 <StickyNoob> still for £30
17:47 <Monkey_arma> i am willing to pay 80
17:47 <StickyNoob> for the gfx alone?
17:47 <Monkey_arma> for psu, mobo, cpu&fan, gfx
17:47 <StickyNoob> oh
17:47 <Monkey_arma> i can get psu for 5 quid
17:48 <StickyNoob> psu £5, look on your face when it overheats and burns down your house...priceless
17:48 <Monkey_arma> one shop here has 2nd hand athlon64-3000  fan £13
17:48 <Monkey_arma> that is for 2nd hand psu
17:48 <Monkey_arma> 400 watts
17:49 <Monkey_arma> i just need to find parts now..its killing me
17:49 <Monkey_arma> where can i get some second hand parts?
17:49 <Monkey_arma> help meeeeee
17:49 <StickyNoob> ebay
17:50 <Monkey_arma> btw do new mobos have ide interface for dvd roms?
17:50 <Flex> they always add 1
17:50 <Monkey_arma> i have pata drive
17:50 <Monkey_arma> but adaptor is cheap anyway
17:51 <StickyNoob> Flex: note that his definition of new is slightly different to yours and mine
17:51 <Flex> lol
17:51 <StickyNoob> it will be a miricle if the mobo has sata
17:51 <Monkey_arma> no i meant mew like you adn flex
17:51 <Monkey_arma> i just dont need new
17:51 <StickyNoob> yes they normaly have one but in mine its controlled by jmicron and sucks ass
17:52 <StickyNoob> if i plug in a usb device in to the front ports the cd-drive looses power
17:52 <Monkey_arma> so what do you do about dvd player?
17:52 <StickyNoob> not plug in a usb device
17:52 <Monkey_arma> wtf
17:52 <Monkey_arma> do you have a dvd player?
17:52 <StickyNoob> yes
17:52 <StickyNoob> pata
17:52 <Flex> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/15333/16357/hp-voodoo-omen-pictures-inside.phtml
17:52 <Monkey_arma> and its pata
17:52 <Monkey_arma> oO
17:52 <Flex> "What do the insides of a $7000 PC look like? Cluttered and multi-coloured it seems. "
17:53 <epsy> Flex, that's a bit of a large transition but.. http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/309948183/article.pl :P
17:53 <epsy> oh
17:55 <Flex> interesting epsy..
17:55 <Flex> thanks for making me aware
17:56 <Flex> The PC also gets advanced liquid cooling with copper cooling pipes embedded in the chassis, aircraft-quality quick-release hose connectors, combined in what's apparently "one of the most advanced liquid cooling systems on the planet".
17:57 <Monkey_arma> but who would be stupid enogough to buy that?
17:57 <Flex> me
17:57 <epsy> P4
17:57 <Monkey_arma> p4 lmao
17:58 <Flex> i'd "do it" with that sweet sweeet rig
18:00 <Monkey_arma> right bbl
18:00 <luke-jr> hey
18:00 <luke-jr> this Amazon Kindle thing looks neat
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18:01 <luke-jr> especially the free EVDO internet access included :O
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19:17 <Flex> oh shit lol
19:17 <Flex> cro-2 ger-0
19:18 <madmax> o_o
19:18 <Flex> who's german here!
19:20 <akira_arma> me but i root for mcroatia!
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19:23 <StickyNoob> why?
19:27 <Flex> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/74832/soccer_fights/
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19:27 <Flex> lol at football fights
19:28 <ivantis> will someone try and ping 63.245.166.39? something is wrong with the network im using right now
19:31 -!- ivantiss [i=4cb20d0e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1e9ed0311ede101] has joined #armagetron
19:31 <ivantiss> please?
19:32 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu8tPYUlAtc
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19:32 <Flex> holy shit, some dude just did a tekken move on a guy at 2.14
19:32 <ivantiss> what?
19:32 -!- ivantiss is now known as ivantis
19:35 <Flex> 2-1 now
19:37 <madmax> haha i've seen that tekken move before
19:37 <madmax> pretty good
19:39 <Flex> lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmL37CyM7tk&feature=related
19:39 <Flex> Ronaldo worst trick^^
19:40 <StickyNoob> ivantis: i cant ping that address
19:40 <ivantis> huh
19:40 <ivantis> i just found out, the power where my server is located is out
19:40 <ivantis> a transformer blew with a big pop
19:41 <StickyNoob> tsk tsk, no mirrored backup on the other side of the world?
19:43 <madmax> passive replication!
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19:44 <ivantis> what did i miss? the laptop im using came unplugged
19:44 <StickyNoob> nothing
19:44 <ivantis> man, this sucks. the power went out at my house!
19:44 <StickyNoob> where do you live?
19:44 <ivantis> kansas
19:45 <StickyNoob> ahh the sticks
19:45 <ivantis> sticks?
19:45 <StickyNoob> middle of nowhere
19:45 <StickyNoob> country
19:45 <ivantis> not quite the middle of no where
19:45 <ivantis> i live in a city
19:45 <ivantis> but right now im in colorado
19:46 <ivantis> where do you live?
19:46 <StickyNoob> england
19:46 <ivantis> ah
19:47 <ivantis> its amazing how fast the internet goes
19:48 <StickyNoob> admitidly probably in a much smaller place than you, our population is only 20,000
19:48 <ivantis> i live in a college city with a bunch of people
19:48 <ivantis> (in the city, not my house)
19:50 <ivantis> how does ping work? if the packet has a timestamp, wouldnt it be a different time where it goes to?
19:50 <ivantis> the internet is amazing
19:51 <Flex> lol
19:51 <StickyNoob> ivantis: the packet does a round trip, its measureing that time
19:51 <ivantis> oh
19:51 <ivantis> i get it
19:52 <ivantis> so it checks how much time between it sends and gets a reply from the server
19:52 <ivantis> the computer that sent it
19:52 <StickyNoob> it yes
19:52 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has joined #armagetron
19:52 <StickyNoob> it is mind boggleing you can send a message on a non direct rout from uk to us and back in about 100ms
19:52 <ivantis> hey monkey
19:53 <ivantis> yeah. my house to germany in 250ms
19:53  * ivantis has slow net
19:54 <Monkey_arma> hi ivantis
19:54 <ivantis> i did some math, the internet travels at about 24.25 miles per milisecond with a home-to-server connection
19:54 <ivantis> across the ocean
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19:55 <ivantis> hey monkey, is the nick monkey taken? you can ask freenode to drop it if no one uses it
19:56 <Monkey_arma> ...
19:56 <StickyNoob> hmm thats about 1/8th the speed of light
19:56 <Monkey_arma> its used regularly
19:57 <Monkey_arma> g5 your team really does always lose :)
19:57 <ivantis> i had a good idea for faster internet: it is light that goes through a tube of mirrors! just the speed of light
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19:57 <StickyNoob> ivantis: ever heard of fiber optic?
19:57 <ivantis> yeah
19:57 <G5> You mean my Arma team or the German Sucker Team?
19:58 <ivantis> how does fiber optic work? what is it?
19:58 <akira_arma> thats no soccer!
19:58 <akira_arma> THAT is soccer:
19:58 <StickyNoob> look at what you described, its not far off
19:58 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1213268615/Urban_Football_(II)
19:58 <ivantis> pawesome
19:59 <Monkey_arma> i was referring to german team
19:59 <ivantis> do you need to be in a certain place in the world to get fiber optic service?
19:59 <StickyNoob> ivantis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberoptic
19:59 <Monkey_arma> both really
20:00 <StickyNoob> ivantis: no fiber is very common
20:00 <StickyNoob> you probably have it in your city
20:00 <ivantis> hmm
20:00 <ivantis> is it real expensive?
20:01 <StickyNoob> not really
20:01 <ivantis> i pay about $20 a month for net. is it like that?
20:02 <StickyNoob> whats speed is it/what provider
20:02 <ivantis> dsl i think
20:02 <ivantis> http://kitusa.com
20:03 <StickyNoob> well in the uk fiber starts at about $20 a month
20:03 <Monkey_arma> wrong
20:03 <ivantis> hmm
20:04 <Monkey_arma> im on fibre
20:04 <ivantis> i should look into that
20:04 <Monkey_arma> £4.50 a month
20:04 <StickyNoob> $50 for 20mbs
20:04 <ivantis> whats a good speed?
20:04 <StickyNoob> let me gues monkey you are on a really old tarrif that is no longer offered?
20:05 <Flex> let me guess, monkey is so old he's older then the moon
20:06 <ivantis> his social security number is 1
20:06 <G5> Monkey_arma: U r so right ... u dont even know how right u r. I do not watch football. But everybody told me the German team is so good this time, so I watch some of the game ... u saw how that ends. I do not need to play myself, I can make my team lose from remote ...
20:06 <StickyNoob> or hes on the £4.50 Virgin offer and is conviniently forgetting the £11 phone line he has to also take
20:06 <Monkey_arma> yes
20:06 <madmax> G5: germany played good on their first game
20:06 <Monkey_arma> but thats seperate
20:07 <StickyNoob> so its actualy £15.50 a month
20:07 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob adsl you must pay for phone line too
20:07 <Monkey_arma> bollox
20:07  * StickyNoob slow claps
20:07 <G5> madmax: I wasnt watching the first game, so no wonder
20:07 <Flex> haha G5
20:07 <akira_arma> germna team sucks
20:07 <ivantis> how much is £4.50 in $s?
20:07 <akira_arma> they just arent a good team
20:07 <StickyNoob> ivantis: anyway yes fiber starts at $20 in the UK
20:07 <Monkey_arma> no
20:07 <ivantis> gud
20:08 <Monkey_arma> it starts from about $7
20:08 <akira_arma> NL and spain rock
20:08 <akira_arma> portugal also
20:08 <StickyNoob> $2= about £1
20:08 <Monkey_arma> $8 then
20:08 <Monkey_arma> its not 2 = 1
20:09 <StickyNoob> 1.94...near as damit
20:09 <madmax> *psst* google: "4.5 pounds in dollars"
20:09 <ivantis> ok, im going to eat pizza now, bbs
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20:09 <StickyNoob> tell you what monkey ill refund you the 6 cents difference between $1.94 and £2
20:10 <Monkey_arma> ok
20:10 <StickyNoob> *$2
20:10 <StickyNoob> actualy rounding its 1.95
20:11 <madmax> akira_arma: yeah NL have a pretty good team... curious to see if they keep it up in their next game
20:11 <Monkey_arma> i think holland are the favourites
20:11 <akira_arma> they deserve the title imho
20:11 <Monkey_arma> for me
20:12 <akira_arma> they always play very good soccer
20:12 <akira_arma> fast
20:12 <Monkey_arma> and van der saar is the best player in the tournament
20:12 <akira_arma> wtf
20:12 <Monkey_arma> wtf?
20:17  * madmax agrees on the affirmative wtf
20:17 <madmax> and you can't even decide that with just one match
20:17 <madmax> I wonder if a goalkeeper was ever chosen as best player
20:18 <Monkey_arma> max i have watched van der saar in many matches
20:19 <Monkey_arma> including in the european championship
20:19 <madmax> you said "best player in the tournament"
20:19 <Monkey_arma> damn right
20:19 <Monkey_arma> he is the best player in the tournament
20:19 <Monkey_arma> before the first match was even played he was the best player
20:19 <P4> #ping
20:19 <Monkey_arma> today he is still the best player
20:20 <P4> Unban tronner! :þ
20:20 <Monkey_arma> he is the best player taking part in the tournament
20:20 <P4> hi Monkey_arma :)
20:20 <madmax> that's a pretty good argument
20:21 <Monkey_arma> hey P4
20:21 <akira_arma> i am pretty sure ronaldo is equal
20:21 <akira_arma> also
20:21 <Monkey_arma> no way
20:21 <Monkey_arma> hes not a team player
20:21 <Monkey_arma> i prefer deco
20:21 <akira_arma> they just play different
20:21 <madmax> lol
20:21 <akira_arma> since when has not being team player to do with the "best"
20:22 <madmax> deco was the best in portugal's last game
20:22 <akira_arma> its your perception of best
20:22 <madmax> yet, ronaldo received man of the match heh
20:22 <Monkey_arma> ...ty ty
20:22 <Monkey_arma> ronaldo is all show
20:22 <Monkey_arma> yes he is skilled
20:22 <Monkey_arma> but keeps losing the ball
20:22 <akira_arma> also wayne rooney is a good candidate
20:22 <Monkey_arma> because he wont PASS
20:22 <Monkey_arma> rooney?
20:22 <akira_arma> he is not subtle
20:22 <Monkey_arma> he is in the tournament is he/
20:22 <akira_arma> but effiecient
20:22 <Monkey_arma> er...
20:22 <akira_arma> isnt he?
20:22 <akira_arma> no clue
20:22 <akira_arma> :D
20:23 <madmax> -_-
20:23 <Monkey_arma> lol
20:23 <akira_arma> i dont follow soccer that much
20:23 <Monkey_arma> slightly worring you give me a wtf
20:23 <Monkey_arma> :)
20:23 <Monkey_arma> england didnt make it
20:23 <Monkey_arma> but yes he is their best player
20:23 <akira_arma> i give you a wtf when you say something that is based on your perception
20:23 <akira_arma> as
20:23 <akira_arma> general
20:23 <Monkey_arma> and equal to ronaldo
20:23 <akira_arma> truth
20:24 <akira_arma> also.. a team needs 11 players
20:24 <akira_arma> so if you put
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i think torres is as good as ronaldo
20:24 <akira_arma> 11 van der saar
20:24 <akira_arma> they wont make a good team
20:24 <akira_arma> ;)
20:24 <madmax> Monkey_arma: man united?
20:24 <Monkey_arma> no max
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i just think they are equal
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i prefer rooney in fact
20:24 <akira_arma> also 2020
20:24 <akira_arma> style
20:24 <akira_arma> suck
20:24 <akira_arma> s
20:24 <akira_arma> :(
20:25 <Monkey_arma> france should have kept zidane in squad
20:25 <madmax> which team do you support then?
20:25 <Monkey_arma> couldnt have been worse than that crap
20:25 <Monkey_arma> i dont like premiership because its all about money
20:26 <Monkey_arma> so i only get excited at euro or world cup
20:26 <Monkey_arma> and i dont support england
20:26 <Monkey_arma> :)
20:27 <madmax> heh
20:27 <Monkey_arma> i just like to watch good football
20:29 <madmax> well, there are very good matches in the premiership
20:30 <Monkey_arma> some
20:30 <madmax> don't see how money influences on-field skill :-P
20:30 <Monkey_arma> but the premiership is ruined
20:31 <Monkey_arma> ok well for a start in england you must have satellite tv to watch premiership
20:31 <Monkey_arma> thats a pretty damn good reason
20:31 <Monkey_arma> sky OWN the bloody premiership
20:32 <madmax> in portugal there's only one match per weekend on TV. rest is on paid channels
20:32 <madmax> it sucks
20:33 <Monkey_arma> exactly
20:33 <madmax> at least they show champions league/national cup games
20:34 <Monkey_arma> yes we only get euro, world cup and championship /cup games
20:35 <Flex> who cares about the rest
20:35 <Flex> they suck
20:35 <Monkey_arma> exactly
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20:37 <madmax> what do you have at home? analogue tv?
20:37 <Monkey_arma> yes
20:37 <Monkey_arma> but digital is the same
20:46 <Flex> haha
20:46 <Flex> shut up!
20:48 <Monkey_arma> oh sorry flex yes we get super channels like bbc3 and kiddies tv and shopping channel....all wonderful digital channels
20:49 <Monkey_arma> (not)
20:49 <Flex> E4, ITV sub channels, BBC sub channels, random decent channels like "Dave" not to forget Film4
20:49 <Flex> intractive for stuff like Snooker
20:52 <Flex> http://www.freeview.co.uk/channels/?__SITE=public&p[0]=channels
20:53 <Flex> it's like if you've got only the normal channels, doesn't mean they're any better then the ones you're being sarcastic about
20:53 <Flex> they suck just as much
20:54 <Monkey_arma> i didnt say  they were better
20:54 <Monkey_arma> i am saying that digital is no better than analogue
20:54 <Flex> yes it is
20:54 <Monkey_arma> ye right
20:55 <Monkey_arma> hardly
20:55 <Flex> better channels, more channels and much more clearer
20:55 <Monkey_arma> hah
20:55 <Monkey_arma> no
20:55 <Flex> any idiot can tell the quality difference
20:55 <Monkey_arma> ye right
20:55 <Monkey_arma> ive watched digital
20:55 <Flex> it's obvious
20:55 <Monkey_arma> dont think that digital makes it better quality
20:55 <Flex> also with digital you get tv guides
20:55 <madmax> well I know here digital is much better than analogue heh.
20:55 <Monkey_arma> it just means you can have more chans over the range
20:55 <Monkey_arma> its not here
20:56 <Monkey_arma> the picture is the same
20:56 <Flex> trust me it's better here too, monkey is just 20-50 years behind the times
20:56 <madmax> I'm not talking about image quality
20:56 <Monkey_arma> unless you live somewhere remote
20:56 <madmax> on analogue we have 4 channels only, digital are much more, and better
20:56 <Monkey_arma> ok well as far as programs go digital has more channels all of them shit
20:56 <Monkey_arma> in UK at least
20:56 <Flex> dude all of them is as shit as the ones you've got on analog
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> that's true in the US too
20:57 <Flex> sume even better to watch
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's why we tossed our TV out on the curb
20:57 <Monkey_arma> heh
20:57 <StickyNoob> lies QVC FTW
20:57 <Monkey_arma> sticky lol.
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> if we actually got taxed for our TV, we'd never have had one in the first place ;)
20:57 <StickyNoob> dosent america tax tv?
20:58 <Flex> they live off commercials
20:58 <StickyNoob> well i suppose you dont have any state funded channels
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> we do, but the networks are trying to get rid of them
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> they're funded by grants and donations, and appear to just run Sesame Street, miscellaneous kid programming, and imported UK shows
21:00 <StickyNoob> pbs?
21:00 <StickyNoob> thats not state funded tho is it?
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> it is, actually
21:01 <StickyNoob> oh
21:01 <StickyNoob> hmm
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> government funds don't cover even half of their expenses, though
21:02 <StickyNoob> sweet you get uk shows
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> no, other people, people that own TVs, get UK shows ;)
21:02 <StickyNoob> heh
21:06 <akira_arma> hey lucifer
21:06 <Flex> austria can't fucking score
21:06 <akira_arma> I am still waiting....
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21:19 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer_arma while compiling ftgl i get errors:
21:20 <Monkey_arma> creating FTGLMFontDemo
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/demo'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> Making all in docs
21:20 <Monkey_arma> /usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> touch stamp-eps
21:20 <Monkey_arma> /usr/bin/doxygen doxygen.cfg stamp-eps
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: *** [stamp-doxygen] Segmentation fault
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make: *** [all] Error 2
21:20 <Monkey_arma> any ideas?
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21:24  * ivantis is back!
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21:28 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_arma: sorry, no ideas, ftgl comes in a binary package for me
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21:32 <Monkey_arma> k thx
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Log from 2008-06-13:
--- Day changed Fri Jun 13 2008
00:00  * ivantis is back again!
00:00 <epsy> again?!
00:00 <epsy> :)
00:00 <ivantis> yeah, again
00:00 <epsy> good..night!
00:01 <ivantis> goodnight?
00:01 <ivantis> what timezone?
00:01 <epsy> it's 12 am right now
00:01 <epsy> well, here :)
00:01 <ivantis> its 5 pm right now
00:01 <epsy> CEST
00:01 <ivantis> well, here
00:01 <ivantis> uh,
00:01 <ivantis> i dont know the timezone
00:01 <epsy> most of the UE
00:02 <epsy> are on CET
00:02 <ivantis> central time -1 hour
00:02 <epsy> on summer they are on CEST
00:02 <epsy> which is not CST
00:02 <epsy> :)
00:02 <ivantis> you mean DST?
00:02 <ct|kyle> CST -1 epsy
00:02 <ivantis> whatever
00:02 <epsy> it seems to be called summer time for european timezones
00:03 <epsy> while with american ones get called daylight savings time
00:03 <ivantis> is armabot back yet if its the 12th already?
00:03 <ct|kyle> we call that central time weather summer or winter
00:03 <ivantis> yeah, right, it doesnt save me any daylight
00:03 <ct|kyle> it gives me the daylight late in the night
00:03 <ivantis> i hate having to go to school earlier
00:04 <ivantis> because of it
00:04 <ivantis> ugh, i dont want to have to school this year
00:04 <ivantis> at all
00:05 <ivantis> 8th grade man, 8th grade!
00:05 <ct|kyle> heh
00:06 <ct|kyle> i hate daylight savings, i never had it till we got a stupid Governor
00:07 <ivantis> on servers, does MAX_IN_RATE and stuff help with player time-outs?
00:07 <ivantis> i looked at that thing on the wiki
00:09 <ct|kyle> donno setting not found in new servers
00:10 <ivantis> er, max_out_rate
00:11 <ct|kyle> no matches
00:12 <ivantis> say, does anyone know of a way to tell through ssh how much bandwidth you get?
00:12 <ivantis> im away from home right now
00:15 <StickyNoob>  a bit yes
00:15 <ivantis> how?
00:15 <ivantis> i must know
00:16 <StickyNoob> oh oops
00:17 <ivantis> what?
00:17 <StickyNoob> wrong channel
00:22 <ivantis> stickynoob, how do i check speed through a command line?
00:23 <luke-jr> ivantis FAIL
00:23 <ivantis> what?
00:23 <epsy> nothing.
00:23 <ivantis> ???
00:23 <Monkey_arma> thats actually a really good question
00:24 <epsy> nah, he now exceeded his line quote for today, wait until tomorrow
00:24 <Monkey_arma> we have top for cpu usage
00:24 <Monkey_arma> but not so good stuff for net
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00:25 <StickyNoob> ivantis: if you have root/sudo access you can install nethogs
00:25 <ivantis> whats that do?
00:25 <ivantis> i am root
00:25 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: nethogs is top for network access
00:25 <Monkey_arma> ah ok
00:25 <StickyNoob> ivantis: what type of system?
00:25 <Monkey_arma> is  there some ntop or similar?
00:25 <ivantis> k ill try it
00:26 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: how about IO?
00:26 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: what, top for devices??
00:26 <luke-jr> or at least block devices
00:27 <StickyNoob> duno
00:27 <Monkey_arma> there is IOSTAT
00:27 <Monkey_arma> doubt it does much
00:27 <StickyNoob> dosent sound like something worth measuring
00:27 <Monkey_arma> i remember reading IO has the least support
00:27 <ivantis> ok, im installing nethogs
00:27 <ivantis> how does it work?
00:28 <Monkey_arma> ivantis are you root on irc or just you have a root window open?
00:28 <ivantis> i have a root window open. how on irc?
00:28 <StickyNoob> ivantis: just as root or sudo type "nethogs eth0"
00:29 <ivantis> i get...
00:29 <madmax> root on irc = being the ircd itself? :-P
00:29 <StickyNoob> no hes on irc through a web interface
00:29 <ivantis> http://mibbit.com/pb/2y5NIh
00:30 <ivantis> using ssh'ed irc is too slow
00:30 <ivantis> and i cant download anything now
00:30 <Monkey_arma> what i mean is ....is he on the net as root
00:30 <Monkey_arma> and you knew that :)
00:31 <ivantis> did you guys look at http://mibbit.com/pb/2y5NIh ? thats what i get from "nethogs eth0"
00:31 <StickyNoob> that looks ok
00:31 <ivantis> what does it tell me through that?
00:31 <ivantis> whats my speed?
00:32 <StickyNoob> ahh right
00:32 <StickyNoob> that tells you howmuch bandwidth each program is using
00:32 <StickyNoob> so lshd is using 0.065kb a second
00:32 <ivantis> no i meant total that i get, my internet speed
00:33 <StickyNoob> no real way to do that
00:33 <ivantis> dangit
00:33 <ivantis> well, i could do it with vnc
00:33 <StickyNoob> other than look at the contract you signed
00:33 <ivantis> but that is hellishly slow
00:33 <StickyNoob> whatare you doing??
00:33 <ivantis> what?
00:33 <StickyNoob> what are you doing??
00:34 <StickyNoob> that you think is slow
00:34 <ivantis> using vnc
00:34 <StickyNoob> heh
00:34 <ivantis> btw, what port does X server run on?
00:34 <ivantis> not |x| servers, x windows server
00:34 <ivantis> lol
00:35 <StickyNoob> dont think it runs on a network port, dose it
00:35 <ivantis> then how does it tunnel?
00:35 <StickyNoob> ahh you mean x forwarding?
00:35 <ivantis> ya
00:35 <StickyNoob> x forwarding is the slowst thing known to man
00:35 <ivantis> i know
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00:36 <ivantis> but i must use it
00:36 <StickyNoob> dont bother unless you are on a lan
00:36 <StickyNoob> why must you use it?
00:36 <ivantis> it doesnt matter, i must use it
00:36 <StickyNoob> why?
00:36 <ivantis> important, and private matter
00:36 <StickyNoob> well all i can say is that unless you are on the same lan x forwarding is fairly bad
00:36 <ivantis> i need to use a remote browser to look at my net speed
00:36 <ivantis> what port???
00:37 <StickyNoob> it goes over the ssh session
00:37 <Monkey_arma> sticky isnt there some new thing to replace lbxproxy?
00:37 <StickyNoob> yes im trying to remember the new compressed x forwarding thing
00:38 <ivantis> yeah, but im using a ssh client that has a tunnels menu, and it asks for a port
00:38 <StickyNoob> you are not tunneling
00:38 <Monkey_arma> one word of note is that work on x server and accessories to it is happening very fast
00:38 <ivantis> go to http://www.netspace.org/ssh/
00:38 <ivantis> look at the menu
00:39 <StickyNoob> are you running windows or linux?
00:39 <ivantis> windows
00:39 <ivantis> sigh
00:39 <StickyNoob> use putty
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00:40 <ivantis> i cant download anything on this computer
00:40 <ivantis> anyway, you need more than putty to x forward
00:40 <StickyNoob> yes cygwin
00:40 <ivantis> yeah
00:41 <ivantis> but this isnt my computer
00:43 <StickyNoob> that applet never starts for me
00:43 <ivantis> huh
00:43 <StickyNoob> http://www.netspace.org/ssh/ dosent work for me
00:44 <ivantis> lhame
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00:48 <ivantis> well, i dont need it now anyway, i just did some estimation
00:49 <StickyNoob> ok so you just want to know your max net speed
00:49 <StickyNoob> where is this server, america?
00:52 <StickyNoob> ivantis: type "wget http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso"
00:52 <StickyNoob> what speed does that go at
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00:52 <K-Yo> gn
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00:54 <ivantis> what? i was gone for a sec
00:54 <StickyNoob> type "wget
00:54 <ivantis> whats ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso?
00:55 <ivantis> what is it?
00:55 <StickyNoob> its a copy of ubuntu linux
00:55 <ivantis> why?
00:55 <StickyNoob> you want to test your speed
00:55 <epsy> it's a large file
00:55 <StickyNoob> do download that big file
00:55 <ivantis> and???
00:55 <StickyNoob> *so
00:55 <epsy> and look at your speed
00:55 <ivantis> i already guessed it
00:56  * StickyNoob head desks
00:56 <ivantis> and my remote hand at my server might do it for me
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00:56 <hoax> StickyNoob invest in a desk that gives you some head back
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00:58 <ivantis> i think this should be good, will someone go to SPACE-LAB Shooting on arma to test my lagginess?
00:58 <ivantis> MAX_OUT_RATE is 3
00:58 <Monkey_arma> ivantis ssh can fuck with your bandwidth big time
00:58 <Monkey_arma> as sticky said,best to change the port you have it on
00:58 <ivantis> i know, i left some room for it
00:58 <StickyNoob> noooooo shooting
00:58 <ivantis> why change the port?
00:59 <Monkey_arma> then you wont get loads of login attempts from iran and china
00:59 <ivantis> noooo shooting? what?
00:59 <ivantis> ah
00:59 <Monkey_arma> also he recommended fail2ban
00:59 <ivantis> should i change my dns name?
00:59 <ivantis> right now its ivantis.1.vg
01:00 <StickyNoob> ivantis: i get 200-300ms ping
01:00 <ivantis> hmm
01:00 <ivantis> it wasn't like that before
01:00 <StickyNoob> i am in europe
01:00 <ivantis> yeah, even in europe
01:00 <ivantis> hang on
01:00 <Monkey_arma> with ssh my ping was 30-120 ms more than usual
01:01 <ivantis> where?
01:01 <Monkey_arma> but that was with constant attempts
01:01 <Monkey_arma> fort cafe
01:01 <ivantis> oh
01:01 <StickyNoob> to cafe i am about 10025
01:01 <StickyNoob> 125
01:01 <ivantis> ping?
01:01 <StickyNoob> yes
01:01 <ivantis> oh, i thought 10025, lol
01:02 <epsy> 10 seconds :P
01:02 <ivantis> hmm
01:02 <ivantis> hang on
01:02 <ivantis> stickynoob, still at shooting?
01:03 <StickyNoob> no
01:04 <ivantis> whats the default MAX_OUT_RATE?
01:04 <Monkey_arma> ivantis btw what version server you running? (tron)
01:05 <ivantis> server or client?
01:05 <Monkey_arma> server
01:05 <ivantis> server is...
01:05 <ivantis> 0.2.8_alphaDATE
01:05 <ivantis> lemme get the date...
01:06 <ivantis> 0.2.8_alpha20080508
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01:07 <ivantis> ok, sticky go back to shooting and tell your ping
01:07 <ivantis> **plz**
01:08 <Monkey_arma> well, ivantis when we tested some servers with fort settings, the newer ones seriously solved a lag issue that was in 2.8.2.1
01:08 <Monkey_arma> i dont know from which version the issues were resolved but the difference was noticable
01:08 <ivantis> the issue was in 2.8.2.1, or it was solved in 2.8.2.1??
01:09 <Monkey_arma> the issue was in 2.8.2.1
01:09 <Monkey_arma> when you keep turning fast you get warping of lines
01:09 <ivantis> 2.8_alpha isnt 2.8.2.1, is it?
01:09 <Monkey_arma> it didnt happen or much less at least in later versions
01:09 <Monkey_arma> 2.8 alpha is later than 2.8.2.1
01:09 <StickyNoob> 210
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01:10 <ivantis> that better than before?
01:10 <StickyNoob> bout same
01:10 <ivantis> i put the max_out_rate to 5
01:10 <ivantis> hm
01:10 <ivantis> try it now, i was in ssh
01:10 <StickyNoob> lag is not massively related to bandwidth
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01:11 <Monkey_arma> when we say lag there are 2 things we can mean
01:11 <ivantis> slow, and ping, yeah
01:12 <Monkey_arma> the main one we talk about is inconsistency lag
01:12 <Monkey_arma> where you warp lines or whatever
01:12 <epsy> there's player sliding..but that's rare
01:12 <Monkey_arma> or jump etc
01:12 <epsy> jumps are quite common, but in sumo
01:12 <Monkey_arma> i mean as opposed to consistent lag
01:12 <Monkey_arma> like ping, fps etc
01:12 <StickyNoob> 230-300
01:12 <epsy> oh, that looser thingy?
01:13 <ivantis> you have 230-300 ping now?
01:13 <ivantis> goodness
01:13 <StickyNoob> yes
01:14 <ivantis> hmm
01:14 <epsy> i don't really get the jumping thingy
01:14 <ivantis> that is an issue
01:14 <Monkey_arma> epsy what u mean?
01:14 <epsy> when you have your enemy warping from one side of the zone to the other
01:15 <epsy> enemy = anyone but you
01:15 <StickyNoob> epsy: where is the code for the most recent non screwed up glancing client?
01:15 <Monkey_arma> oO
01:15 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:15 <epsy> what?
01:15 <Monkey_arma> that would be latest 2.8alpha
01:15 <ivantis> d
01:15 <StickyNoob> is that svn tagged?
01:15 <ivantis> maybe i should change it again
01:16 <epsy> if i knew how it did happen i think i would have an idea of what to wrok around
01:17 <ivantis> yipes, 5/8 on my server, they are in for a world of lag
01:18 <epsy> in x sumo it's not only with transatlantical players
01:18 <ivantis> maybe that is a good setting, though, and they wont have that much
01:19 <epsy> but it seems that it lags more when certain (cough) players start playing
01:19 <ivantis> like that Bob guy from china
01:19 <ivantis> he always has about 650 ping
01:20 <epsy> so there's two players from china
01:20 <ivantis> whats the ping like at shooting from the list?
01:21 <ivantis> going from colorado to kansas, 117 average
01:21 <epsy> heh
01:21 <epsy> okay, going to bed
01:21 <epsy> ]night
01:21 <ljrbot`> epsy: Error: "night" is not a valid command.
01:22 <ivantis> night
01:22 <epsy> well, whatever :P
01:22 <epsy> 'night
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01:22 <ivantis> ]day
01:22 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "day" is not a valid command.
01:22 <ivantis> ]ls ivantis
01:22 <ivantis> he wont be able to find me
01:22 <ljrbot`> ivantis: timed out
01:22 <ivantis> knew it
01:23 <ivantis> ]ls angel
01:23 <ljrbot`> ivantis: arkangel has last been seen on .dBd|Rapid's Graveyard | Loose DF 38 minutes ago.
01:24 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab
01:24 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (4/8): Ethan, michaelbrown, spike, ZAk
01:24 <ivantis> why doesnt it say the ping in sd?
01:27 <ivantis> is anyone still there?
01:27 <ivantis> sticky?
01:27 <Monkey_arma> you need  to highlight his name
01:28 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob StickyNoob StickyNoob StickyNoob
01:28 <Monkey_arma> like taht
01:28 <StickyNoob> yo
01:28 <ivantis> will you ping ivantis.1.vg for me?
01:29 <StickyNoob> bout 200
01:29 <ivantis> ahk
01:29 <ivantis> ok**
01:30 <StickyNoob> hmm 0.2_pre4 is error tastic
01:32 <ivantis> good, i have nice settings to bandwidth, clients survived an ssh login
01:32 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab
01:32 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (2/8): Ethan, michaelbrown
01:34 <ivantis> ok, i am going no
01:34 <ivantis> w
01:34 <ivantis> goodbye
01:34  * ivantis leaves...
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01:34 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you know where to find the most up to date 0.2.8
01:35 <Monkey_arma> well i use bzr
01:35 <Monkey_arma> it will be on launchpad
01:35 <Monkey_arma> i guess
01:35 <Monkey_arma> do you have bzr?
01:35 <StickyNoob> i can install
01:35 <Monkey_arma> i think there are some issues with mixing svn and bzr btw
01:36 <Monkey_arma> i mean for the same instance of a download
01:36 <Monkey_arma> it is supposed to be gettablee with svn
01:36 <Monkey_arma> but i wouldnt bet on it
01:36 <StickyNoob> well whats the command for the latest 0.2.8
01:36 <Monkey_arma> hmmm
01:36 <Monkey_arma> dunno
01:36 <Monkey_arma> for trunk its
01:37 <Monkey_arma> bzr checkout lp:armagetronad
01:37 <Monkey_arma> lp being short for launchpad
01:37 <Monkey_arma> bzr knows launchpad
01:37 <StickyNoob> launchpad?
01:37 <Monkey_arma> its a site that they use to store source on
01:38 <Monkey_arma> https://launchpad.net/
01:38 <StickyNoob> ok
01:41 <StickyNoob> hmm bzr not so good at user feed back
01:42 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:42 <Monkey_arma> quite good docs tho
01:42 <Monkey_arma> should be better tho
01:43 <Monkey_arma> btw you'll need a  newer verion of bzr
01:43 <Monkey_arma> debian repos is old
01:43 <Monkey_arma> dont know about ubbnutu
01:43 <StickyNoob> why does it  have to be new?
01:44 <Monkey_arma> features not in older ones
01:44 <StickyNoob> well its downloading
01:44 <Monkey_arma> i installed debian one and it couldnt do what i needed
01:44 <Monkey_arma> k
01:44 <Monkey_arma> should be ok
01:44 <StickyNoob> gives no feed back to say it is but still
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01:48 <Monkey_arma> heh hi
01:48 <hoax> ]ls max
01:48 <ljrbot`> hoax: MAX HEADROOM has last been seen on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server 42 minutes ago.
01:49 <hoax> ]ls madmax
01:49 <ljrbot`> hoax: timed out
01:49 <hoax> ]ls Monkey
01:49 <ljrbot`> hoax: monkey214 has last been seen on |FA| Clan Server - Devils Rings! 23 minutes ago.
01:49 <hoax> lol
01:49 <Monkey_arma> er..
01:49 <madmax> o_O
01:49 <hoax> 213 imposters already
01:49 <Monkey_arma> no joke there are that may
01:49 <Monkey_arma> *n
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01:50 <Monkey_arma> ]ls luffy
01:50 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 3 hours 38 minutes ago.
01:50 <hoax> I wonder what devils rings are
01:50 <Monkey_arma> ]ls foolish
01:50 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: foolish monkey has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 14 hours 16 minutes ago.
01:50 <Monkey_arma> the list goes on
01:50 <hoax> da da da da dee dah
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01:52  * ivantis is back again!
01:52 <ivantis> yes, again
01:52 <Monkey_arma> wb
01:52 <ivantis> ]sd -v mud puddle
01:52 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Swampland Mud Puddle (67.240.58.163:4537) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Small Swampland“, Players (3/8): Beasta, Glace, ]-[3R0
01:52 <ivantis> look, see the player ]-[3R0 there?
01:53 <ivantis> the pass to my old server was H3R0. on request by magnie
01:53 <ivantis> does anyone remember magnie?
01:54 <ivantis> ]ls magnie
01:54 <ljrbot`> ivantis: timed out
01:54 <ivantis> ]ls sage
01:54 <ljrbot`> ivantis: -=}ID< DarkSage has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 4 hours 49 minutes ago.
01:54 <ivantis> ]ping
01:54 <ljrbot`> pong
01:55 <ivantis> ]knock
01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "knock" is not a valid command.
01:55 <StickyNoob> ]ls sticky
01:55 <ljrbot`> StickyNoob: |x| Sticky has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 43 minutes ago.
01:55 <ivantis> ]pong
01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "pong" is not a valid command.
01:55 <ivantis> ]ping
01:55 <ljrbot`> pong
01:55 <ivantis> ]ring
01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "ring" is not a valid command.
01:55 <ivantis> ]knockknock
01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "knockknock" is not a valid command.
01:56 <ivantis> ]commands
01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "commands" is not a valid command.
01:56 <Monkey_arma> ]list
01:56 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Owner, Quote, Seen, Services, User, Utilities, and Web
01:56 <ivantis> ]list admin
01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
01:56 <ivantis> ]list games
01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
01:57 <ivantis> ]coin
01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: tails
01:57 <ivantis> ]dice
01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
01:57 <ivantis> ]dice 99d99
01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
01:57 <ivantis> lame
01:57 <ivantis> ]dice 6d99
01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: 6, 11, 39, 72, 69, and 99
01:58 <ivantis> ]eightball
01:58 <ljrbot`> ivantis: You know the answer better than I.
01:58 <ivantis> ]eightball
01:58 <ljrbot`> ivantis: The outlook is poor.
01:58 <ivantis> man, bad luck
01:59 <ivantis> ]eightball
01:59 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Come again?
01:59 <ivantis> ]eightball
01:59 <ljrbot`> ivantis: _I_ don't know.
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03:44 <ivantis> hello?
03:44 <pippijn> hi
03:44 <ivantis> ]hello
03:44 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "hello" is not a valid command.
03:44 <ivantis> hi
03:44 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab
03:44 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (0/8):
03:45 <ivantis> ]hi
03:45 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
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15:58 <madmax> http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=96
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17:50 <Flex> hey luke-jr
17:50 <luke-jr> …
17:50 <Flex> what.. i said hey
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18:49 <Monkey_arma> how shit are italy and romania
18:49 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:49 <wrtlprnft> armabot died?
18:50 <wrtlprnft> armabot deadlocked
18:50 <wrtlprnft> eating all CPU for days
18:51 <Monkey_arma> wb wrtl
18:51 <wrtlprnft> ty
18:51 <wrtlprnft> anything really important i missed?
18:51 <Monkey_arma> not really
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18:51 <Monkey_arma> armabot! wb
18:51 <Monkey_arma> #wb
18:53 <wrtlprnft> #ping
18:53 <armabot> pong
18:53 <K-Yo> welcome back wrtl
18:54 <wrtlprnft> ty
18:57 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: connect: Connection timed out at /home/armagetronad/cafe/sendstats.pl line 43, <SOCK> line 27.
18:57 <wrtlprnft> all over the place.
19:05 <epsy> armabot depends on that? O_o
19:06 <epsy> hi wrtl
19:07 <wrtlprnft> no
19:07 <wrtlprnft> that's totally independent
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19:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: O.o
19:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: can you telnet
19:38 <luke-jr> also, wfm
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19:50 <wrtlprnft> wfm?
19:51 <pippijn> hi wrtlprnft
19:52 <wrtlprnft> hi
19:52 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad@marvin 1 $ nc -v stats.aa.dashjr.org 9999                                                                            ~/armasrc-0.2.8-bzr
19:52 <wrtlprnft> DNS fwd/rev mismatch: hachi.dashjr.org != wsip-70-184-212-2.om.om.cox.net
19:52 <wrtlprnft> hachi.dashjr.org [70.184.212.2] 9999 (?) open
19:52 <madmax> #eliza hi!
19:52 <armabot> madmax: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
19:52 <wrtlprnft> dunno what the protocol is
19:52 <pippijn> #eliza hi!
19:52 <armabot> pippijn: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
19:52 <pippijn> #eliza hi!
19:52 <armabot> pippijn: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
19:52 <madmax> and wb wrtlprnft :P
19:52 <pippijn> how.. intelligent
19:53 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: the original program is more intelligent
19:53 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I'm working on my programming language again :-)
19:53 <wrtlprnft> it's just that I restart it every time, so it can't remember anything
19:54 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I have also written an AI engine
19:54 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:56 <pippijn> that's been a while ago, though
19:56 <K-Yo> what kind of AI?
19:56 <K-Yo> an answering one?
19:57 <pippijn> yes
19:57 <pippijn> it can also learn minor things
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19:59 <wrtlprnft> oh, i thought it was something recent we can use for arma's bots
19:59 <pippijn> oh, no
19:59 <pippijn> I mean a pattern matching AI engine
20:01 <pippijn> *sigh*
20:01 <pippijn> here we go again
20:01 <pippijn> I'm weeding out bugs
20:06 <Monkey_arma> #eliza i hate emacs
20:06 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Why do you hate emacs?
20:07 <Monkey_arma> if you dont know that eliza...there is no hope for you...
20:11 <deja_vu> xD
20:15 <wrtlprnft> emacs <<< vim
20:15 <wrtlprnft> vim is the only true religion.
20:17  * Monkey_arma agrees
20:23 <deja_vu> :D
20:47 <madmax> NL vs france, place your bets
20:54 <akira_arma> nl
20:57 <pippijn> nl
20:57 <pippijn> #eliza I love vim
20:57 <armabot> pippijn: Please, describe your relationship with vim.
20:57 <pippijn> hm
20:57 <pippijn> that's the emacs eliza
20:57 <pippijn> the exact same answer comes from the elisp eliza
21:13 <K-Yo> hey, is there any café admin or moderator available?
21:17 <wrtlprnft> what's up?
21:18 <K-Yo> tker
21:18 <K-Yo> #tea
21:18 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): -=52]°mEsCaLiTo, <T¤$afari$Kater, CT_emmy, cT¤K-yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), Daschm, Olifee, ~*Spe3d*~, ~*viper*~
21:18 <K-Yo> and too few possible voters
21:18 <K-Yo> Olifee
21:20 <luke-jr> ]bird
21:20 <ljrbot`> eddiefantastic: You're a bird
21:21 <K-Yo> what is this?
21:21 <K-Yo> ]bird
21:21 <ljrbot`> ct|kyle: You're a bird
21:21 <K-Yo> oh
21:21 <K-Yo> that is a spammy function xD
21:22 <madmax> can ribery actually be any uglier?
21:22  * K-Yo doesn't think so
21:22 <K-Yo> zidane was cuter
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21:37 <Monkey_arma> madmax that is cruel
21:37 <Monkey_arma> :0
21:37 <akira_arma> !slap Monkey_arma
21:37 <Monkey_arma> but ribery is a very good player
21:37 <akira_arma> eh
21:37 <madmax> truth hurts, he *is* ugly
21:37 <akira_arma> #slap Monkey_arma
21:37 <armabot> akira_arma slaps Monkey_arma for being a raving moron.
21:39 <Lucifer> those damned Irish, heh
21:39 <akira_arma> yea
21:39 <akira_arma> ;)
21:39 <akira_arma> those damned british too....
21:39  * akira_arma hides
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23:47 <Monkey_arma> anyone for cafe?
23:52 <madmax> yes
23:53 <ct|kyle> no
23:58 <akira_arma> k

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14:25 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Flex you missed me by three minutes.
14:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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15:07 <pippijn> how can I limit virtual memory (ulimit -v)?
15:08 <pippijn> found it
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15:27 <evaldusia> http://novicious.com/twatch/?q=evaldusia
15:27 <evaldusia> can't be
15:28 <evaldusia> i played more than 16 minutes
15:32 <epsy> that thing stopped working since ages
15:32 <epsy> plus your name isn't plain 'evaldusia' but something with much special chars etc
15:32 <evaldusia> yea i know
15:35 <evaldusia> why it doesn't work anymore epsy?
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15:43 <madmax> #tea
15:43 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): <V> TØrK$¥, Azure Kite, SaFaRi|Ant
15:49 <evaldusia> #bug
15:49 <armabot> evaldusia: Error: The command "bug" is available in the Alias and Sourceforge plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "bug".
15:49 <evaldusia> #bugfarm
15:49 <evaldusia> lol
15:49 -!- monkeyarma is now known as Monkey_arma
15:56 <madmax> #sd bugfarm
15:56 <armabot> madmax: Bugfarm fortress clone with ladders and flying deathzones: Players (0/16):
15:56 <Monkey_arma> #tea
15:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): <V> TØrK$¥, Joe Black, killerbees19, Monkey, RoterBaron
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16:00 <madmax> is there a way to limit FPS?
16:01 <evaldusia> turn on vsync
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19:27 <madmax> #later tell epsy could you look into this http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197362 ? I think you added that variable to nServerInfo in rev849
19:27 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
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20:58 <ivantis> hey, whoever told me that x11 forwarding is way to slow and not worth it, you were right.
20:59 <ivantis> xclock is the only thing that actually shows anything
20:59 <ivantis> and is worth waiting for
21:00 <ivantis> hello?
21:00 <ivantis> bah
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21:02 <ivantis> ha, look at http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
21:02 <ivantis> im on there
21:05 <ivantis> #ls ivantis
21:05 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
21:05 <ivantis> yay! armabots back
21:05 <madmax> you should try #monologue
21:05 <ivantis> #monologue
21:05 <armabot> ivantis: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
21:06 <ivantis> whats a monologue?
21:06 <madmax> 1
21:06 <madmax> 2
21:06 <madmax> 3
21:06 <madmax> #monologue
21:06 <armabot> madmax: Your current monologue is at least 4 lines long.
21:06 <ivantis> o
21:06 <ivantis> #disclaimer
21:06 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
21:07 <ivantis> hahaha, always cracks me up
21:08 <ivantis> has anyone seen indiana jones?
21:08 <madmax> not yet
21:08 <ivantis> im gonna see i today
21:08 <ivantis> it**
21:08 <ivantis> this keyboard suks
21:08 <ivantis> sucks**
21:09 <ivantis> luke-jr: you there?
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21:11 <madmax> did you get a decent irc client already? :p
21:11 <ivantis> yeah
21:11 <ivantis> ircii
21:11 <ivantis> i like it kuz i can use it thru ssh
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21:11 <ivantis> nice and simple
21:12 <ivantis> brb, gott a do something
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21:14 <ivantis> back
21:15 <ivantis> \/
21:15 <madmax> so, you're using the client through ssh, and quitting it to do something else?
21:15 <ivantis> 43
21:15 <ivantis> yeah
21:15 <madmax> you can use screen you know
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21:15 <ivantis> what?
21:16 <madmax> http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
21:16 <ivantis> or i could open another ssh session
21:16 <ivantis> ok, ill install screen
21:17 <ivantis> brb again so i can do it
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21:18 <ivantis> how do i use sceen? its preinstalled on m ~ ssytem
21:18 <ivantis> man this keyboard sucks
21:18 <ivantis> -=~~~~~~~
21:18 <madmax> are you running the client inside screen already?
21:18 <ivantis> wtf? why does delete echo a tilde?
21:18 <ivantis> i guesss so
21:19 <ivantis> i just issued "screen"
21:19 <ivantis> and it acted like reset
21:19 <madmax> <C-a>C creates a new shell, <C-a>P scrolls through them
21:19 <ivantis> ok
21:20 <ivantis> wait, what> what comd~bination is <C-a>C?
21:20 <madmax> ctrl+a, then c
21:20 <madmax> at least in my install it's like that, I suppose it's the same
21:20 <ivantis> yeah, its like that. cool
21:20 <madmax> you can do a lot more though
21:21 <ivantis> but without the P on the second one
21:21 <madmax> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi#learning_screen
21:21 <ivantis> ill look at the man page
21:21 <madmax> detaching/reattaching is a good thing too
21:21 <ivantis> ill look at the man page~~~~~~~~~~~~
21:21 <ivantis> but it ~~~delete echos a ~
21:22 <ivantis> in screen
21:22 <ivantis> how do i fix tht?
21:22 <madmax> er, no idea
21:22 <ivantis> grr
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> In about a third of all sudden deaths due to coronary disease, death is the first sign that anything major is wrong.
21:22 <ivantis> i know for reqular term its like fix delet ~e ~
21:23 <ivantis> or something
21:23 <madmax> something to do with your terminal emulator or encoding or something
21:23 <ivantis> grr
21:23 <ivantis> why ~? why must everything be so difficult?
21:23 <ivantis> ill post on the bu~~ubuntu forums
21:24 <madmax> are you using OS X?
21:24 <ivantis> os x sshed into ubuntu
21:24 <madmax> wait, nvm
21:24 <madmax> oh
21:24 <madmax> using the default Terminal.app? I think I ran into some problems too some time ago
21:24 <ivantis> oh
21:25 <ivantis> yeah, os x.5
21:25 <ivantis> i think
21:25 <ivantis> im a the library
21:25 <ivantis> at**
21:25 <madmax> in Tiger though, I think they improved it in Leopard
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> I think ubuntu fails to use a common bash patch that makes bash do a lot better
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> you know, inside a terminal emulator
21:25 <ivantis> aw, a~man
21:25 <madmax> I use iTerm in tiger anyway heh
21:25 <Lucifer_arma> you want to run screen on your server, though
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> so you can detach the session there and logout
21:26 <Lucifer_arma> if you run it on your client, then when you reboot the machine for some reason, it'll tear down the process on the server
21:26 <ivantis> not ~~~~~~~~~~whats iterm?
21:26 <madmax> hm, I assumed ivantis was already doing that :P
21:27 <ivantis> great
21:27 <madmax> http://iterm.sourceforge.net/
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> madmax: I've learned not assume ivantis is doing anything right :)
21:27 <ivantis> where does i~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oh
21:27 <ivantis> yes, assume that always
21:31 <ivantis> hey dorks, try this command: :(){:|:&};: (not really, its bad for your system)
21:31 <ivantis> look at http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=331
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> well I guess I"ll ssh into your server and try it there
21:31 <ivantis> please dont
21:32 <ivantis> anye~way, you dont know the password
21:33 <ivantis> it executes fork while fork
21:33 <ivantis> fork-bomb
21:33 <ivantis> causing a syste freeze
21:33 <madmax> haha, a tried a simple fork bomb in C recently, just 100 processes or something
21:33 <madmax> it crashes the process viewer of OS X
21:34 <ivantis> how do you make a system line in C?
21:34 <ivantis> like the
21:34 <ivantis> sysstem "command";
21:34 <ivantis> in perl
21:34 <ivantis> system**
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> you don't think I know the password, anyway
21:35 <Monkey_arma> iterm hah
21:35 <Monkey_arma> man there is an 'i' everything nowadays
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I think the command is actually called "system"
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_arma: iKnow
21:36 <Monkey_arma> boom boom
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21:36 <Lucifer_arma> I should write a program called "iEatPeople" that's so useful, everybody has to have it
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it'll be a recipe program
21:36 <ivantis> good idea
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm a go ride my bike, get all hot and sweaty, then complain about the weather
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
21:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek MUD, Austin, Texas is 94.6°F (2:35 PM CDT on June 14, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
21:37 <ivantis> #weather 10000
21:37 <armabot> ivantis: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:37 <ivantis> what ~~~~~~~
21:38 <madmax> ivantis: there's execvp and it's thousand variations
21:38 <ivantis> what?
21:38 <ivantis> grr~~~~
21:38 <madmax> what you asked above
21:39 <ivantis> d~
21:39 <ivantis> oh
21:39 <ivantis> is there one for C++?
21:39 <ivantis> i like that better
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> if it works in C, it works in C++
21:39 <ivantis> good
21:39 <ivantis> hwo do i do it?
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> but you could use QProcess :)
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, first you google
21:39 <ivantis> just give me a nic one
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> because, you see, we may try to be helpful, we really don't want to spend all of our time telling things that are so readily available to you if you just look
21:40 <ivantis> great
21:40 <ivantis> ill google
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> and for me, at least, it's starting to get really annoying you can't be bothered to look for yourself
21:40 <Monkey_arma> i used to prefer C++ but now i've seen C i think i may prefer that
21:40 <madmax> I've used execvp to run the command on a forked process, but system like Lucifer_arma said probably does it too
21:40 <ivantis> goodie
21:40 <ivantis> ill try it
21:40 <ivantis> right now
21:40 <ivantis> but i need to quit screen
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21:41 <madmax> I guess he didn't read about detaching
21:43 <Monkey_arma> better tell him :)
21:44 <Monkey_arma> actaully i will be learning irssi and using screen with it too
21:44 <madmax> well, I told him a pretty good page about it
21:44 <Monkey_arma> ok
21:44 <Monkey_arma> did you see spain match?
21:44 <madmax> yeah, some
21:44 <madmax> torres and villa heh?
21:45 <Monkey_arma> those 2 are good
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21:45 <Monkey_arma> def not so sure
21:45 <Monkey_arma> i think holland or portugal really
21:45 <Monkey_arma> fttw
21:45 <ivantis> i tried system << "command";
21:45 <madmax> spain always promises much, but end up sooner
21:45 <Monkey_arma> yep
21:45 <ivantis> it gave some compiling errors
21:45 <ivantis> help?
21:46 <ivantis> brb
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21:46 <madmax> at least they're safe from holland now
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21:51 <ivantis> nvm, i figured it out, its
21:51 <ivantis> system("command");
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22:35 <akira_arma> #tea
22:35 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:59 <madmax> hm, vi editing mode in bash:
22:59 <madmax> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/bash-vi-editing-mode-cheat-sheet/?search=vi
22:59 <madmax> never used this
23:02 <Monkey_arma> oO
23:02 <Monkey_arma> is there not a ref sheet in :help ?
23:03 <madmax> lol
23:06 <akira_arma> #tea
23:06 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:06 <akira_arma> :/
23:09 <Monkey_arma> cafe :(
23:09 <Monkey_arma> <-- would pay
23:09 <Monkey_arma> *l
23:10 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: you want to pay?
23:10 <luke-jr> :þ
23:10 <Monkey_arma> not for your servers i wouldnt even have one for free
23:10 <luke-jr> cuz you're retarded or smth
23:11 <Monkey_arma> yes that must be why....cuz im retarded or smth...thats it...thats the reason why i dont want one of your servers...
23:11 <luke-jr> yep
23:14 <Monkey_arma> madmax i used vi command line a while back but found it seriously lacking compared to vim
23:14 <luke-jr> bash cmd line ftw
23:15 <Monkey_arma> i think the main issue is that i dont know how to do my awesome "fj" combo
23:16 <luke-jr> first press i to get in insert mode
23:16 <Monkey_arma> (no sensible person uses escape to get out of editting mode)
23:16 <luke-jr> then : (){:|:&};:
23:17 <Monkey_arma> riight
23:17  * luke-jr notes vi/vim don't default to insert mode
23:18 <Monkey_arma> omg you cant even do "diw" in vi mode bash
23:19  * Monkey_arma spits on gnu
23:20 <luke-jr> what does gnu have to do with vi mode bash?
23:21 <Monkey_arma> they made emacs standard readline
23:22  * luke-jr doesn't consider standard arrow keys to be emacs
23:22 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr , it is CALLED emacs mode ffs
23:22 <Monkey_arma> who made readline anyway?
23:22 <Monkey_arma> must be gnu no?
23:23 <Monkey_arma> yep..it sure is
23:24 <luke-jr> as a free replacemnet for termcap afaik
23:25 <Monkey_arma> isnt terminfo a replacement for termcap?
23:25 <Monkey_arma> i spose some things use termcap
23:26 <Monkey_arma> but isnt termcap free?
23:26 <Monkey_arma> of course its free its in debian main
23:26 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr you are mad
23:35 <madmax> 'diw'? what the hell is diw?
23:36 <akira_arma> #tea
23:36 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): °SUI°NiNjA
23:36 <akira_arma> !
23:36 <madmax> and I use escape. don't tell you use something like shift-space
23:37 <madmax> I saw some people arguing some odd binds to replaces ESC
23:38 <Monkey_arma> OMG max you scare me
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23:38 <madmax> continue...
23:38 <Monkey_arma> the whole point of vim is to reconfigure your escape from edit mode
23:38 <Monkey_arma> thats like 30% of vim
23:39 <Monkey_arma> ok here is a treat for you max
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23:39 <Monkey_arma> the 2 greatest lines of config in the world
23:39 <madmax> my ESC key is well accessible
23:40 <madmax> so, does your bind require two keys then?
23:40 <Monkey_arma> inoremap fj <Esc>
23:40 <Monkey_arma> inoremap jf <Esc>
23:40 <Monkey_arma> my 2 favourite config lines on earth
23:41 <Monkey_arma> you can do imap instead
23:41 <madmax> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G4/12inchPowerBookG4/art/040945021715_06.gif
23:41 <Monkey_arma> but inoremap is better as it is does not map recursively
23:41 <madmax> take a look where my esc is
23:42 <Monkey_arma> right and? thats the same as on a pc no?
23:43 <madmax> well, on most keyboards esc is farther away?
23:43 <Monkey_arma> oh max max max....
23:43 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:43 <madmax> I don't see the point in binding it to something else anyway
23:44 <madmax> and you lose f{char} with that
23:44 <Monkey_arma> :0
23:44 <Monkey_arma> how many words have fj in them?
23:44 <Monkey_arma> lol
23:44 <Monkey_arma> you dont lose f char
23:44 <madmax> I mean the 'f' command
23:44 <Monkey_arma> you only lose fj
23:44 <Monkey_arma> no you dont
23:45 <Monkey_arma> its inoremap not noremap
23:45 <Monkey_arma> i meaning in insert and replace mode only
23:45 <madmax> oh I wasn't noticing that
23:45 <Monkey_arma> i told you the 2 most awesomestestest config lines ever
23:45 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:46 <madmax> you didn't convince me :-P
23:46 <Monkey_arma> try it for yourself for 1 week
23:46 <Monkey_arma> if you arent convinced then you need help
23:46 <Monkey_arma> i would suggest emacs as your medicine
23:46 <madmax> lol
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23:46 <madmax> put up a poll to see who maps esc!
23:47 <Monkey_arma> seriously try it for a week
23:47 <Monkey_arma> its the best present i can give to a unix user
23:47 <madmax> haha
23:47 <madmax> it would be awesome if there was some very common portuguese word with fj in it
23:48 <Monkey_arma> i was thinking there might be :p
23:48 <madmax> heh, nope
23:48 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:48 <Monkey_arma> or jf
23:48 <madmax> but on the mac_vim mailing list, where I saw the discussion about mapping esc, I think most people didn't do it
23:49 <madmax> or it was at least ~50/50
23:49 <Monkey_arma> most people dont have my natural gift for interfaces
23:50 <akira_arma> #tea
23:50 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:53 <madmax> er, *vim_mac that is

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01:08 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8488 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nAuthentication.cpp): Manuel Moos: Moved sn_supportRemoteLogins to a place where it is always available.
01:15 <madmax> hah
01:16 <madmax> thanks zmanuel
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01:27 <madmax> ""Back in 2004 a miracle happened and that only happens once every 30 years," said Otto Rehhagel after Greece were eliminated by an impressive Russia."
01:27 <madmax> always thought it was a miracle too
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01:48 <Monkey_arma> madmax "diw" is "delete inner word"
01:48 <Monkey_arma> similar to "daw" but without removing whitespace
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03:04 <spidey> Download Speed: 13967 kbps (1745.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
03:04 <spidey> Upload Speed: 1764 kbps (220.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
03:04 <spidey> <3
03:04 <ct|kyle> nice
03:07 <hoax> #seen Durka
03:07 <armabot> hoax: Durka was last seen in #armagetron 6 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Durka> i am
03:07 <hoax> #seen Durka_
03:07 <armabot> hoax: Durka_ was last seen in #armagetron 7 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Durka_> meh im out
03:08 <hoax> lies
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14:44 <deja_vu> uhm.
14:44 <deja_vu> anyone familiar with linear regression and error propagation?
14:46 <deja_vu> in particular, how i'd get the systematic error of the slope as a function of the error of y?
14:47 <P4> don't look at me :þ
14:48 <deja_vu> i'm not looking, i'm staring blankly :P
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15:08 <evaldusia> :D
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19:31 <wahnfrieden> flowers for aldernode
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19:41 <madmax> whaa
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20:33 <akira_arma> #tea
20:33 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 1200, <V>TØtM, CTxGonZaP, FiitS, Lord of Bic, metaz, Oddmnky, preSsure, SpinAce, |x| FoFo, ~*<y<lo*~, ~*GW*~ChrisGW, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~zion
20:33 <akira_arma> :o
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22:36 <Flex> lol
22:36 <Flex> anyone watching the turkey v czech game?
22:38 <madmax> not me, was watching the BS game of portugl
22:38 <Flex> HAHAH
22:38 <Flex> keeper got a red card
22:40 <akira_arma_> ?
22:40 <akira_arma_> re<lly?
22:40 <Flex> yeah
22:40 <akira_arma_> really*
22:40 <Flex> haha
22:40 <akira_arma_> LOL
22:41 <akira_arma_> why?
22:41 <Flex> the keeper pushed the guy over
22:41 <Flex> instant red card
22:41 <akira_arma_> ha
22:41 <Flex> turkey was loosing 2-0
22:41 <Flex> and they came back 2-3
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22:48 <deja_vu> which probably explains all the honking --
22:48 <deja_vu> -.-
22:48 <Flex> where?
22:48 <deja_vu> outside ;)
22:48 <Flex> yeah but where lol
22:48 <deja_vu> germany
22:53 <Flex> urm what happens with a red card?
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, it's 39 degrees outside
22:57 <deja_vu> o_O
22:57 <deja_vu> celsius?
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23:03 <Flex> oh i guess he misses 2 or 3 matches
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00:34 <akira_arma> #tea
00:34 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): álf ñ at ~, Corn, CT_emmy, dr.fux, Flex, Kreyszig, madmax, ubuntu user, z3r0, |BmK|Roxie, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5
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01:05 <Monkey_arma> helloooo
01:05 <Monkey_arma> im on irssi
01:06 <Monkey_arma> not by choice though...ive upgraded my distro and x server is fucked so command line only :(
01:13 <Monkey_arma> users
01:19 <joda_bot> Monkey_arma: how can we/anyone help u now ?
01:19 <joda_bot> Monkey_arma: gn8
01:19 <joda_bot> :-)
01:19 <joda_bot> and good luck
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01:23 <Monkey_arma> ;((
01:32 <Monkey_arma> i'm loving irssi btw
01:32 <akira_arma> #tea
01:32 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): 1200, álf ñ at ~, Corn, Flex, ghableska, Kreyszig, madmax, RainyMaize, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy
01:35 <madmax> was that sarcasm?
01:36 <Monkey_arma> no i really like it
01:36 <madmax> hah
01:37 <Monkey_arma> <-- wants to play fort :(
01:41 <akira_arma> then play
01:43 <madmax> just develop some armagetron version in ascii
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01:45 <Monkey_arma> akira_arma:  i cant play because my windowing system is not working
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01:50 <madmax> waa, where did everyone in cafe go Flex ?
01:50 <Flex> lol everyone left
01:50 <Flex> thanks max!
01:50 <madmax> haha
01:50 <Flex> killing servers for fun!
01:50 <Monkey_arma> ^^
01:50 <madmax> well I was about to come back
01:50 <Flex> everyone was like oh fuck max left.. we're doomed
01:51 <Flex> :p
01:52 <madmax> I think I died more today than last week summed up
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02:05 <Monkey_arma> ls
02:05 <Monkey_arma> ls
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02:08 <madmax> Monkey_arma: on the other shell, not this one
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02:10 <Monkey_arma> :)
02:10 <Flex> Monkey_arma,
02:11 <Flex> kiss @ u
02:11 <Monkey_arma> its my first day on irssi ;)
02:11 <Monkey_arma> :0
02:11 <Monkey_arma> <3
02:11 <Flex> what's <3?
02:11 <Monkey_arma> £>
02:11 <Flex> ohh
02:11 <Flex> right
02:14 <Flex> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197383&sid=1a0342d786176f3088f730235176c1dd#197383
02:14 <Flex> haha :p
02:14 <Flex> i was there
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02:30 <madmax> did wrtl truly own?
02:31 <Flex> lol
02:31 <Flex> he did win yes
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02:39 <madmax> gnight
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03:23 <spidey> wrtlprnft, luke-jr Lucifer_arma ping?
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05:05 <hoax> luke-jr stop fingering me! :/
05:05 <hoax> hahaha fuck you
05:06 <hoax> :P
05:07 <hoax> hah
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07:09 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: `ping
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> #m wrtlprnft I don't know how you've setup armabot, but I'd like armabot to not log anything in #luke-jrisanasshat
07:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> #m wrtlprnft failing that, I'd like armabot not to be there at all.  Can you make one of those happen?
07:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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08:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: ERROR: One of search patterns is too heavy or malformed. See help for more information.
08:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: now that's news
08:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: (in the aa.net RSS feed)
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> there's an aa.net rss feed?
08:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah
08:37 <wrtlprnft> http://feeds.feedburner.com/armagetronadnet
08:37 <wrtlprnft> #part #luke-jrisanasshat
08:37 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> thanks wrtlprnft (hi there!)
08:42 <wrtlprnft> yw
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09:55 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
09:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek MUD, Austin, Texas is 78.1°F (2:54 AM CDT on June 16, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady).
09:56 <guru3> wrtlprnft: i had no idea there was an rss feed
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10:07 <wrtlprnft> err, wtf
10:07 <wrtlprnft> who *is* responsible for it, then?
10:07 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18067&highlight=rss
10:07 <guru3> i don't know
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10:08 <wrtlprnft> anyways, appears to be a temporary error
10:08 <guru3> well...
10:08 <wrtlprnft> or someone has already fixed it
10:08 <guru3> nothing has changed on the site -_-
10:08 <wrtlprnft> maybe it was down for a short period of time or something
10:11 <guru3> it worked when i just clicked it
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10:17 <wrtlprnft> never mind, it fixed itself
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12:52 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: are you aware your server feed has hung?
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13:38 <wrtlprnft> not again… I had a tenth-of-a-second power outage and my server crashed
13:40 <Monkey_arma> :(
13:43 <wrtlprnft> stupid construction people probably blew one of their fuses and drained all power before that
13:43 <Monkey_arma> maybe you need a ups
13:43 <Monkey_arma> just a cheap one
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14:41 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: i just truncated my tables, I don't use that old data for anything important anyways
14:41 <wrtlprnft> lastseen will be reset, so will the addict stats
14:42 <wrtlprnft> Monkey_arma: an UPS would waste even more electricity
14:43 <wrtlprnft> and this was the only real power outage that affected the server itself
14:43 <wrtlprnft> the other just affected my internet connection, a UPS wouldn't have helped there
14:43 <wrtlprnft> and the fuse I blew in my own room is really my fault
14:44 <wrtlprnft> and the time i shorted out my server's power supply while messing with it wouldn't have been prevented by an UPS
14:46 <Monkey_arma> wrtlprnft: you can get backup battery style ups i think
14:46 <Monkey_arma> so its basically a rechargeable battery that will give you maybe 5 mins of extra power
14:47 <Monkey_arma> it doesnt constantly drain power
14:47 <Monkey_arma> or very little maybe
14:49 <wrtlprnft> 90–95% efficiency…
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16:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dodgeball/dodgeball-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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17:24 <Monkey_arma> Hi, i've just bought a 2nd hand ASRock K7VM2 mobo. When I asked the guy in the shop if it had 8xAGP slot he said yes but I've just found out it only has a 4xAGP slot. I was thinking of getting anything from a 128meg GeForce FX 5200  to a GeForce 6600GT. How much difference will the 4xAGP slot make? Should I go back and get another mobo?hi ghableska
17:25 <ghableska> oh hi monkey
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18:01 <mkzelda> I have fx 5200's and 6600gt on 4x boards
18:01 <mkzelda> ive never had them on 8x
18:01 <Monkey_arma> mkzelda: yes i read that x4 vs x8 is not much diff
18:02 <Monkey_arma> also in #hardware they reckon there will be no difference at all
18:03 <Monkey_arma> dook, can you recommend what cards in that range for me too look for given my hardware? ive bought that mobo and athlon XP 2400+
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18:03 <mkzelda> well i was happier w/ my 5200 than my 6600
18:03 <Monkey_arma> oO
18:03 <mkzelda> though my 6600 did outperform in 3d
18:03 <Monkey_arma> well im getting this for tron mainly ;)
18:04 <mkzelda> but not significantly, and 2d, specifically framebuffered text (linux console) Was awful on the 6600
18:04 <mkzelda> always wondered if that was a 4x/8x issue
18:04 <mkzelda> but for whatever reason i felt tron on the 5200 to be more accurate than the 6600
18:05 <mkzelda> i had a different breed of lag on 6600 i didnt understand as much
18:05 <mkzelda> hard to explain, just felt wrong
18:05 <mkzelda> the other problem w/ my 6600's
18:05 <mkzelda> they're positioned diagonally
18:05 <mkzelda> on the board
18:05 <mkzelda> and you cant find any aftermarket cooling for it
18:05 <mkzelda> so when the fan dies, its done
18:06 <mkzelda> but i think 6600 is about best cost/performance where you're at
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18:09 <Monkey_arma> well the 128meg FX 5200 has no fan, just heatsink....does that sound right to you ?
18:09 <mkzelda> yea i think thats how mine is
18:10 <Monkey_arma> well no fan is a bonux
18:10 <Monkey_arma> *s
18:10 <Monkey_arma> and btw..play more tron dook :)
18:15 <Monkey_arma> i think i'll get that card then..the 5200 ..thx for advice dook
18:18 <P4> is heatsink a radiator?
18:19 <Monkey_arma> yes
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18:34 <madmax> hmm, brazil
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21:09 <akira_arma> #tea
21:09 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): <V>BâTTLê, Corn, Endless, ghableska, madmax, pavelo (pavelo@forums), _-`Ww_YoshI, ~|DS|~zion, °°pixel
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21:14 <ivantis> 1
21:14 <ivantis> just 1
21:16 <ivantis> #list
21:16 <armabot> ivantis: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
21:17 <ivantis> #list utilities
21:17 <armabot> ivantis: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success
21:18 <ivantis> #list linux
21:18 <armabot> ivantis: kernel
21:18 <ivantis> #list linux kernel
21:18 <armabot> ivantis: (list [--private] [<plugin>]) -- Lists the commands available in the given plugin. If no plugin is given, lists the public plugins available. If --private is given, lists the private plugins.
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21:24 <Monkey_arma> damn powercut
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21:58 <Flex> power cut
21:58 <Flex> lmao
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22:26 <luke-jr> "Thanks, I love this server. ☺ The web interface and custom AI are really cool."
22:29 <epsy> the AI that can choose to go thru walls or not? :P
22:49 <luke-jr> …
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22:50 <pippijn> does anyone here know x86 asm?
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22:59 <luke-jr> pippijn: to a very limited extent
22:59 <luke-jr> my most recent asm experience is MIPS
23:01 <pippijn> okay
23:02 <pippijn> here goes
23:02 <pippijn> { unsigned long *hi = new unsigned long, *lo = new unsigned long, a = 3, b = 2; asm ("mull %3" : "=a" (*lo), "=d" (*hi) : "a" (a), "b" (b) : "cc"); }
23:03 <pippijn> can you read this?
23:03 <pippijn> it's x86 asm
23:04 <pippijn> luke-jr: it doesn't work on PIC
23:05 <luke-jr> no
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23:37 <joda_bot1> a
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23:41 <Monkey_arma> Hi, I have a "Fatal error" in my xorg server. guest oO
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23:49 <akira_arma> #tea
23:49 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): Concord, Corn, CTxGonZaP, CT׶4 (P4@crazy-tronners.com), Flex, Kreyszig, LOOOFI, madmax, maxOu`, Player 1, Radian, Sithy (Sithy@forums), Win32, ¦×¦FSM
23:52 <Monkey_arma> oh man i wanna play!

Log from 2008-06-17:
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00:00 <madmax> still no X?
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01:01 <madmax> #later tell epsy I was talking about monkey's X server
01:01 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
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01:04 <Monkey_arma> OMG I've found a workaround for my xserver bug :)
01:05  * Monkey_arma back in business
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01:50 <akira_arma> #tea
01:51 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:51 <luke-jr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/0½4/ebay_african_slaves/
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01:53 <Monkey_arma> akira id be up for fort
01:54 <madmax> #ping
01:54 <armabot> pong
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01:58 <Monkey_arma> hey
01:59 <Monkey_arma> seeings as ive found a workaround for my xserver..anyone for cafe?
02:17 <akira_arma> #tea
02:17 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): <SpaceCoyote>, Monkey
02:17 <akira_arma> :o
02:24 <Monkey_arma> #tea
02:24 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): <SpaceCoyote>, Banana Squad, Monkey
02:24 <Monkey_arma> #tea
02:24 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): <SpaceCoyote>, Banana Squad, Monkey
02:26 <Monkey_arma> #tea
02:26 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): <SpaceCoyote>, Banana Squad, Monkey, olm
02:27 <Monkey_arma> #tea
02:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): <SpaceCoyote>, Banana Squad, Monkey, olm, |LV|Panoutx
02:27 <Monkey_arma> ^^
02:31 <madmax> #aka olm
02:31 <armabot> madmax: I don't know anything about 'olm'!
02:32 <Monkey_arma> all smurfs it seems
02:33 <akira_arma> lol
02:33 <akira_arma> <- olm
02:33 <madmax> haha
02:33 <Monkey_arma> :)
02:34 <Monkey_arma> ban smurfing!
03:05 <madmax> monkey, you need some defense practice :-P
03:07 <Monkey_arma> i need some fps lol
03:07 <Monkey_arma> then sumo and def practice
03:08 <Monkey_arma> yes i suck currently
04:22 <luke-jr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01//24/ebay_african_slaves/
04:27 <akira_arma> ...
04:27 <luke-jr> …
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05:01 <akira_arma> #slap Lucifer
05:02 <armabot> akira_arma slaps Lucifer for being a raving moron.
05:02 <Lucifer> sure, why not?
05:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
05:02 -!- akira_arma was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer [for being a raving moron]
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05:03 <akira_arma> :(
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05:10 <Lizz> Hi.. is anyone here?
05:11 <spidey> no
05:11 <Lizz> not u nubz... u cant help me :P
05:11 <spidey> blame the jews
05:12 <spidey> it's all their fault
05:12 <Lizz> lies!
05:12 <spidey> jew
05:12 <spidey> ;D
05:12 <Lizz> I need someone whos smart to help me.. not u spiderlette :P
05:12 <spidey> hey, don't make fun of my mental handicap
05:12 <spidey> that's a sin ya know
05:13  * Lizz sins
05:14 <luke-jr> ]duck
05:14 <ljrbot``> luke-jr: Error: "duck" is not a valid command.
05:14 <luke-jr> :o
05:14 <Lizz> Hi Luke
05:15 <spidey> wtfhax.net -> 97.95.153.97
05:15 <luke-jr> Lizz: who r u
05:15 <Lizz> er me? :/
05:15 <luke-jr> …
05:15 <Lizz> no one special
05:15 <luke-jr> n00b?
05:15 <Lizz> ya Im a noob
05:15 <Lizz> I came here for help so I must be :p
05:16 <spidey> luke-jr, ^
05:16  * Lizz slaps spider
05:16  * luke-jr has spidey on ignore
05:16 <Lizz> good idea :D
05:16 <spidey> faggot
05:17 <Lizz> am not u nubz :P
05:18 <luke-jr> Lizz: btw, you might want to pick another name so ppl don't confuse u with wizzee
05:18 <Lizz> Luke: I have a question for u re servers
05:18 <Lizz> my name is Lizz tho :/
05:18 <luke-jr> ☺
05:18 <luke-jr> ?
05:18 <Lizz> wizzee is only a nic i dont use
05:18  * spidey spams luke-jr's email
05:19  * luke-jr blocks spidey's emails
05:19 <spidey> wtfhax.net -> 97.95.153.97
05:19  * luke-jr still has spidey on ignore
05:19  * spidey spams luke-jr's email
05:19 <Lizz> anyway.. i have a ? re a server.. and spidey has no clue on whats wrong
05:19  * luke-jr still has spidey's email on ignore
05:19 <luke-jr> Lizz: PM?
05:20 <Lizz> oh ok
05:20  * spidey bets he asks for the server pw
05:20 <luke-jr> lol
05:20 <luke-jr> it's published on the webpage
05:20 <spidey> what is
05:20 <luke-jr> the server pw
05:20 <spidey> is not
05:20 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/demo.php
05:21 <spidey> she's not asking to buy a server
05:21  * spidey goes back to tibia
05:22 <luke-jr> spidey: join #anime so I can kick you
05:22 <spidey> happy?
05:22 <luke-jr> :/
05:22 <luke-jr> not really
05:23 <spidey> i might be intrested in hosting for another game that you don't support
05:23 <spidey> "if" my homeserver is unstable
05:23 <luke-jr> who said I don't support it
05:23 <spidey> power goes out alot
05:23 <spidey> luke-jr, you support tibia?
05:23 <luke-jr> maybe
05:24 <spidey> i can host one myself
05:24 <spidey> but my power goes out alot
05:24 <spidey> the server's open source
05:24 <spidey> the client isn't
05:24 <luke-jr> Tibia has crappy website
05:24 <spidey> otfans.net
05:24 <spidey> tibia.com != what i want
05:24 <spidey> open tibia is a opensource version of the tibia server
05:24 <spidey> it's kinda illegal, i guess
05:24 <luke-jr> you got info like requirements?
05:25 <spidey> you have to use a ip changer to change the ip built into the client to connect to ot servers
05:25 <spidey> no
05:25 <spidey> haven't ran one yet
05:25 <luke-jr> meh
05:25 <spidey> was gonna set it up yesterday, but had to do stuff for lizz ;p
05:25 <Lizz> :P
05:25 <spidey> i know a guy that runs a decent server, 250+ players off his home connection
05:25 <spidey> it lags because he's using windows vista to host it
05:26 <luke-jr> o
05:26 <spidey> it's a mmorpg
05:26 <luke-jr> home connection is unmetered tho
05:26 <spidey> ;p
05:26 <luke-jr> dedi is metered
05:26 <spidey> and i have a 16/1.8
05:26 <spidey> but my power goes out alot ;(
05:26 <Stewie-arma> woah
05:26 <Stewie-arma> woah woah woah
05:26 <spidey> ?
05:26 <Stewie-arma> wtf is going on here?
05:27 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: you're interrupting
05:27 <spidey> me and luke-jr was just talking about you
05:27 <Stewie-arma> liar
05:27 <spidey> we was
05:27 <Stewie-arma> spidey you never talk about me
05:27 <spidey> when it's negative i'll talk about anyone
05:27 <spidey> :D
05:27 <luke-jr> wtf spidey
05:27 <luke-jr> this page says it uses over 2 TB bw
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05:27 <luke-jr> http://otfans.net/archive/index.php?t-112156.html
05:27 <Stewie-arma> but you wouldn't remember me at all if it was about a negative thing
05:28 <spidey> luke-jr, i doubt it
05:28 <spidey> if you wanna set it up to test, you'll save me from screwing it up 5 times before i get it to work ;p
05:28 <spidey> you can use my server
05:29 <luke-jr> …
05:29 <spidey> it's more i'm just lazy
05:29 <Monkey_arma> Lizz: hey, whats up?
05:30 <Lizz> Hi Monkey
05:30 <Monkey_arma> 1) You mentioned the word server. Dont get one from luke. Ok carry on...
05:30 <Stewie-arma> fine
05:30 <Monkey_arma> what problem you having ?
05:30 <Lizz> oh no.. i dont need a server
05:30 <Stewie-arma> don't say hi to me Lizz -.-
05:30 <Lizz> hi stewie
05:30 <Stewie-arma> yay ;P
05:30 <Lizz> sry was in PM
05:30 <spidey> who's this Stewie-arma guy
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:30 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: retard
05:30 <Stewie-arma> spidey gtfo nub
05:31 <spidey> i've been here longer
05:31 <spidey> >.>
05:31 <Monkey_arma> oh luke thats the nicest thing you've ever said to me <3
05:31 <Stewie-arma> go back to your counterstrike!
05:31 <spidey> tibia
05:31 <spidey> fool
05:31 <Stewie-arma> oh so you have moved on?
05:31 <luke-jr> spidey moved on like a year ago
05:31 <Stewie-arma> liar
05:31 <luke-jr> spidey: whatever, if you need hosting, lemme know
05:31 <spidey> see, if you was a true spidey fan, you'd know this
05:31 <Lizz> I think I need Wrtl >.>
05:31 <Stewie-arma> he was still playing it 3 months ago
05:32 <Stewie-arma> everyone needs wrtl
05:32 <spidey> wrtl's mine
05:32 <Stewie-arma> NO HE'S MINE!
05:32 <Stewie-arma> I call dibs!
05:32 <Monkey_arma> oh I see only wrtl is clever enough to help you...we are just imbersiles...
05:32 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: you can have Walking Tree
05:32 <spidey> Stewie-arma, faggot
05:32 <spidey> :D
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05:32 <Lizz> Not at all
05:32 <Stewie-arma> no need for a walking tree, especially since they don't exist.
05:34 <Monkey_arma> *maybe* we can help you lizz :P
05:34 <luke-jr> I think Lizz needs one of wrtlprnft, Lucifer, or z-man-work
05:34 <luke-jr> basically, someone running a master server
05:34 <Lizz> I hope so.. thats why I came here.. tho spidey has no idea how to fix it lol
05:34 <luke-jr> when does spidey ever?
05:34 <Stewie-arma> well I'll bbl, din din time.
05:35 <Monkey_arma> Lizz..if you dont try us then you'll never know if we can help...
05:35 <Lizz> I tried Luke.. tho I kno everyone has ...
05:35 <luke-jr> Lizz: Monkey_arma can be ignored too
05:35 <Monkey_arma> ;(
05:35 <Lizz> why Luke?
05:35 <spidey> /ignore *
05:35 <luke-jr> Lizz: he's retarded
05:35 <Monkey_arma> Luke doesnt count
05:35 <spidey> /ignore *!*@*
05:35 <Lizz> cant be worse that u are and ur not on my ignore list
05:35 <luke-jr> Lizz: he likes to slander my hosting
05:36 <Monkey_arma> oh time for a quote on that one
05:36 <Lizz> Luke.. well.....
05:36 <spidey> OH YEA
05:36 <spidey> I CAN OFFER BETTER HOSTING OUT OF MY HOUSE!
05:36  * spidey pokes luke
05:36 <Monkey_arma> L....M....A.....O
05:36 <luke-jr> spidey: yeah right
05:36 <spidey> seriously
05:36 <spidey> my p2 stomps your vps's
05:36 <Lizz> heh
05:36 <spidey> xD
05:37 <luke-jr> spidey: only when arma has stupid UDP leaks
05:37 <luke-jr> and it sure can't stomp my dedis
05:37 <spidey> how about when arma has stupid memory leaks
05:37 <spidey> with, and without the pigsty patch
05:37 <Lizz> god ur like whores argueing over how big ur "boxes" are :/
05:38 <luke-jr> lol
05:38 <spidey> MY BOX IS BIGGER
05:38 <Lizz> we know
05:38 <luke-jr> spidey: only visually
05:38 <Lizz> damiens always in it :/
05:38 <spidey> luke-jr, it's not the size of the box, it's where you get to put it
05:38 <spidey> ...or how you get to use it?
05:38 <spidey> x_X
05:39 <Lizz> or what goes in it/
05:39 <spidey> that's just...wrong...
05:39 <Lizz> haha
05:39 <luke-jr> my dedi just sits there idle most of the time :/
05:39 <Lizz> put porn on it :D
05:39 <spidey> my dedi idles at 100% load
05:39 <spidey> i win
05:39 <Monkey_arma> for luke's servers    idle = flat out
05:39 <luke-jr> wtf does that mean
05:40 <Lizz> means urs get no busier than "idle"
05:40 <luke-jr> I mean spidey's comment
05:40 <spidey> no idea
05:40 <spidey> i'm just babbling because i'm bored
05:40 <Monkey_arma> Lizz, tell me bout your problem you need help on
05:40 <luke-jr> hum
05:40 <luke-jr> someone's actually using my US demo server
05:41 <Lizz> Ill PM u Monkey
05:41 <Monkey_arma> k
05:41 <luke-jr> wtf is PHC
05:41 <spidey> a luke-jr ?
05:44 <luke-jr> hm
05:44 <luke-jr> PHC has been using my demo server for the past 8 days straight
05:44 <luke-jr> lol
05:47 <spidey> lol
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06:57 <Lizz> Hi Looceee
07:12  * luke-jr has fun with the demo server
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07:13 <Lucifer> hi
07:13 <Lizz> :)
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07:19  * Lizz sighs
07:20 <Lucifer> I need copper tubing
07:21 <Lizz> I need a gun -.-
07:21 <Lucifer> and a fan with a built-in water pump
07:21 <Lizz> making a still?
07:21 <Lucifer> haha
07:21 <Lucifer> no
07:22 <Lizz> hmm is that how you spell still? .. looks wrong
07:22 <Lucifer> I'm thinking a tub of icewater, a spiral of copper tubing, and a fan
07:22 <Lucifer> yeah, that's right
07:22 <Lizz> hot there then?
07:22 <Lucifer> and of course a water pump to pump freezing cold water through the tubing, and the air will flow over the tubing
07:22 <Lucifer> yeah, over 100 degrees last couple of days
07:22 <Lucifer> and our A/C is like the worst
07:22 <Lucifer> no, it's not *like* the worst, it *is* the worst
07:22 <Lizz> what about you just put a bucket of iced water under the fan.. it will blow cold air then
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07:23 <Lucifer> 85 was teh coldest we could get the house
07:23 <Lucifer> not efficiently it won't
07:23 <Lizz> does if the fan oscillates (sp?)
07:23 <Lucifer> I was actually originally thinking of just getting the tubing and/or solid metal pieces to dunk in the water and have the fan blow air across, like a radiator
07:24 <Lucifer> still not efficiently, the idea is to increase the surface area available for heat to transfer from air to water
07:24 <Lizz> hmmm.. is there any breeze outside at all?
07:24 <Lucifer> if I just used water, I could do without the pump.  Put one bucket up on a shelf and another down below and get some siphon action going
07:24 <Lucifer> not really, no
07:24 <Lizz> hmmm
07:25 <Lucifer> opening teh windows isn't an option for us for a number of reasons
07:25 <Lucifer> I hung a towel in front of the air inlet and dunked it into a bucket of water, we'll see if that helps
07:25 <Lucifer> (air inlet for the A/C)
07:25 <Lizz> ok.. only because you can drape cold wet cloth over the open windows and the brezze in blows cooler
07:25 <Lucifer> if we had shady windows, I'd probably do that, but we don't
07:25 <Lizz> ok
07:26 <Lucifer> all our windows are exposed to the sun, so radiant heat would evaporate the water really fast
07:26 <Lizz> no verandahs?
07:26 <Lucifer> heh, no
07:26 <Lizz> blinds?
07:27  * Lucifer checks that that word means the same thing in the US as it does in oz
07:27 <Lizz> lol
07:27 <Lucifer> we have window shades on every window
07:27 <Lizz> external?
07:27 <Lucifer> internal, damn homeowner's association is crippling us with external possibilities
07:27 <Lucifer> otherwise we'd put external shades
07:27 <Lizz> ok
07:27 <Lucifer> also, there's vinyl siding on this house, and our landlord doesn't want us to cut into it
07:28 <Lizz> mm nice heat absorber lol
07:28 <Lucifer> gets worse
07:28 <Lucifer> our attic is sealed, and has a window that doesn't open
07:28 <Lizz> -.-
07:28 <Lucifer> I'm considering painting a piece of wood white and having it block the window
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07:28 <Lizz> no circular vent in the roof?
07:28 <Lucifer> homeowner's association doesn't want people installing any kind of ventilation in their attics
07:28 <Lucifer> no, no circular vent
07:29 <Lucifer> this house was apparently built by an electric company
07:29 <Lizz> lmao so it seems
07:29 <Lucifer> our landlord is willing to ignore the homeowner's association and let us install ventilation for the attic, but she requires it to be professionally installed
07:29 <Lucifer> so, while I could probably get parts pretty cheaply, I still have to pay some guy to come out and do it
07:29 <Lizz> her house.. why should you pay for that
07:30 <Lucifer> because she has a homeowner's association saying she can't install such a thing
07:30 <Lizz> hmmm
07:30 <Lucifer> so we're considering how it would lower our electric bill and making the cost/benefit calculation
07:30 <Lizz> bizarre
07:30 <Lucifer> but I'm seriously thinking about paying some neighborhood kid to throw a baseball through the window
07:30 <Lizz> lol yup
07:31 <Lucifer> then installing a bug screen :)
07:31 <Lizz> I can't believe you don't have them already.. that's bizarre
07:31 <Lucifer> it is really odd, that's for sure
07:31 <Lizz> very
07:32 <Lizz> but you have to make do with what you have I guess.. so.. back to the copper tubing
07:33 <Lizz> I haven't spoken to you for a long long time.. are things better in your life than they were last we spoke?
07:33 <Lucifer> beats me, I don't remember when we last spoke
07:33 <Lizz> hmm.. a long time ago.. you were very very stressed out and upset about home life
07:34 <Lizz> though I won't go into it in here
07:34 <Lucifer> hmmm, well, we seem to be back to normal here, actually a little better than normal, but I'm not willing to make any optimistic judgements yet :)
07:34 <Lucifer> the house feels like it's getting cooler right now
07:34 <Lizz> well.. it's good it's settled down for you then ;)
07:35 <Lucifer> I turned off a computer, used cardboard, duct tape, and random insulation materials to seal up the cat door to the garage
07:35 <Lucifer> we're not allowed to have pets, but there's a cat door!?!?!
07:35 <Lizz> O.O
07:35 <Lucifer> and it's just bleeding cold air into the garage
07:35 <Lucifer> I took out the air filter for the AC, it's dirty and needs to be replaced, but I'm gonna go out for one in a few minutes
07:35 <Lizz> I'm so glad it's winter almost here ^.^
07:36 <Lucifer> heh
07:36 <Lucifer> we have a pretty unbroken summer
07:36 <Lizz> I got sick of 115F days lol
07:36 <Lucifer> man, I don't blame you for that
07:36 <Lizz> It's normal lol
07:36 <Lucifer> close to sea level?
07:36 <Lizz> no
07:36 <Lizz> well... kinda I guess
07:36 <Lucifer> we only see around 100F days, but we're close enough to sea level and in the middle of a large river system, so the air is very humid
07:37 <Lucifer> can hold a lot of heat
07:37 <Lizz> though I live in the Alpine Region of my state
07:37 <Lizz> summer for me is reg.. 100 to 115F
07:37 <Lizz> thats normal lol
07:37 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, is this the time of year that living in a place with no seasons comes in handy?
07:37 <Lucifer> no
07:37 <Lizz> for weeks/months on end
07:38 <Lucifer> we only have two seasons, warm and hot
07:38 <Lizz> yuck
07:38 <Stewie-arma> we have warm, and slightly warmer
07:38 <Lizz> thats like the Northern part of Oz
07:38 <Lucifer> when I was in Arizona, we dealt with 115+ in the summer, but it was fine because it was so damned dry
07:38 <Lizz> yup.. same here
07:38 <Lizz> I have dry heat
07:38 <Lizz> not humid
07:38 <Lucifer> not so in texas.  If it's 100F in the sun, you're lucky if it's 98 in the shade
07:39 <Lucifer> we sit in the 90s for most of the summer, but the temperature is deceptive
07:39 <Lizz> mmm
07:39 <Lucifer> and pretty much constant everywhere :/
07:40 <Lucifer> man, I want a fan with a built-in water pump!
07:42 <Lizz> lol
07:43 <Lucifer> when I google it, I just get a bunch of portable swamp coolers
07:44 <Lizz> we have fans with water and a pump in them here.. portable oneson wheels
07:44 <Lizz> very common
07:46 <Lucifer> really?  why can't I find an aussie store then?
07:46 <Lucifer> any idea what you call them?
07:46 <Lucifer> maybe it's my search terms that are screwy
07:48 <Lizz> sec sry.. brb
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07:49 <Lizz> evaporative coolers Looceee
08:00  * Lizz smashes something
08:07 <Stewie-arma> why smash?
08:09 <Lizz> why not?
08:10 <Lucifer> angry about something?
08:11 <Lizz> frustrated
08:21 <Lucifer> frustrated about....?
08:21 <Lizz> arma server -.-
08:22 <Lizz> amongst other things.. but that at the moment
08:23 <Lucifer> not working?
08:24 <Lizz> no.. and I dont know how to fix it.. nor dies spidey
08:24 <Lizz> does*
08:24 <spidey> Lucifer, it's ugh
08:24 <spidey> not talking to the master list
08:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, I hope this didn't just happen, heh
08:24 <spidey> only reason it was showing up on the other dedi, was because the masters already knew about it
08:24 <Lucifer> I just took down master2
08:25 <spidey> no
08:25 <spidey> it's been a problem
08:25 <spidey> they just never noticed it
08:25 <Lucifer> you checked TALK_TO_MASTER on the console to see if it's been set?
08:25 <spidey> yea...
08:25  * Lizz pulls her hair out
08:26 <Lucifer> what do you get when you ping master1.armagetronad.net ?
08:27 <Lizz> never noticed coz it was always on master list after cron job reset each week
08:27 <spidey> Lucifer, a timeout
08:27 <Lucifer> that's good
08:27 <Lucifer> er, maybe
08:27 <Lucifer> lemme make sure that's the right hostname to ping :)
08:28 <Lucifer> yeah
08:28 <Lucifer> check master3 and master4 too, if you don't mind
08:28 <Lucifer> master2 is down for now
08:28 <spidey> it's not the masters
08:28 <spidey> the problem's the server
08:29 <spidey> i know what file the problem's in
08:29 <spidey> but i don't know what the problem with it is
08:29 <Lucifer> I timeout on master1 too
08:29 <Lucifer> so it's apparently not running
08:29 <spidey> the problem's the server, the other arma server runs fine
08:29 <spidey> :P
08:29 <Lucifer> oddly enough master2 is running, but I just shut down the machine that it's supposed to be running on
08:29 <Lucifer> yeah, I'm willing to accept that, but I want to know what you get
08:30 <Lucifer> do you get timeouts on all the masters?
08:30 <Lucifer> this is equivalent to me walking over and making sure the machine is plugged in before looking at where the problem is likely to be :)
08:31  * Lucifer once spent 5 hours replacing a starter that worked fine, but the car didn't start because it wasn't in Park
08:31  * Lucifer never wants to do that again
08:32 <spidey> haha
08:32 <spidey> Lucifer, dunno
08:32 <spidey> i was pinging from home
08:32 <spidey> this server, the one that's not working
08:32 <Lucifer> ahhh, ping from the server that's not working?  :)
08:33 <spidey> the logs doesn't say it's talking to the master server
08:33 <spidey> it doesn't have that little thing where they're chatting
08:33 <spidey> it was started before the working server
08:33 <spidey> so if it was a master server problem, they both wouldn't work
08:33 <spidey> ;p
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08:34 <Lucifer> oh hell
08:35 <Lucifer> can I ssh into this thing and look around?
08:35 <spidey> ask lizz
08:35 <Lucifer> Lizz: ?
08:35 <Lizz> yup
08:35 <spidey> i just replaced all the default settings
08:35 <spidey> and it's still doing it ;/
08:35 <Lucifer> how about /msg a login?  I can send you my public key if you'd rather do that
08:36 <spidey> wait
08:36 <spidey> nope...still broken >.>
08:36 <Lizz> I'll love you forever Loocee if you can help get the server running on the list :)
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08:54 <Lucifer> this is very odd
09:01 <Lizz> ?
09:04 <spidey> that's what i said
09:04 <spidey> after my fingers started hurting
09:05 <Lizz> :(
09:05 <Lizz> I'm gonna cry if we cant fix it :((
09:05 <spidey> well, i don't think it's the configs
09:05 <spidey> i lost that theory after i replaced everything with default settings and it still did it
09:06 <Lizz> hmmmm
09:07 <Lizz> cant we just delete that server and add a new one and start again?
09:07 <Lizz> but save the configs?
09:07 <Lizz> or settings?
09:09 <Lucifer> how did you install it?
09:09  * Lucifer is done poking around, logging out now
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09:10 <spidey> Lucifer, with a bunch of --'s that i forgot because it was about a year ago
09:10 <spidey> :P
09:10 <spidey> i know i used --prefix=
09:10 <Lucifer> you compiled it?
09:10 <spidey> but i compiled all the servers the same
09:10 <spidey> so i doubt it's that
09:10 <spidey> yea
09:11 <Lucifer> well, I was able to confirm it was looking in that particular directory for configs
09:11 <wrtlprnft> #later tell Flex now i am
09:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
09:11 <wrtlprnft> Lizz: what's up? o_O
09:11 <spidey> #later tell wrtlprnft WASSUP
09:11 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
09:11 <Lucifer> #later tell wrtlprnft spidey's third server won't talk to the master servers
09:11 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
09:12 <Lizz> Hi wrtl
09:12 <spidey> Lizz's* first server* ;p
09:12 <Lizz> Spider can explain better than I can
09:12 <wrtlprnft> did you set TALK_TO_MASTER in the correct config file?
09:12 <spidey> no
09:12 <Lucifer> yes
09:12 <spidey> totally forgot about it ;s
09:12 <Lucifer> I did it while I was in there
09:13 <Lucifer> commented it out in settings_dedicated.cfg just to make sure
09:13 <Lucifer> looked for the include
09:13 <Lucifer> hey, wait a minute
09:13 <Lucifer> how long has SINCLUDE existed?
09:13 <Lucifer> er
09:13 <wrtlprnft> since 0.2.8?
09:14 <Lizz> The only server I like the best on my dedi and it wont work >.<
09:15  * Lizz stops paying for |FA| and goes on a holiday instead
09:15  * spidey slaps lizz
09:16 <Lizz> ow
09:16 <Lucifer> oh well, thought maybe SINCLUDE came later and tried it with just "INCLUDE"
09:16 <spidey> i might be mad if you did that...after i did all that stuff yesterday
09:16 <Lizz> :P
09:16 <Lizz> I want my server.. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :((
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09:16 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't matter which one you use… the worst you can get is an error message
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09:17 <wrtlprnft> what happens if someone joins the server and then leaves? It should talk to the masters again
09:17 <Lizz> I dont understand why the other servers list and that one wont
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09:19  * wrtlprnft won't download firefox 3 today as a matter of principle.
09:19 <wrtlprnft> (that's totally unrelated)
09:20  * Lizz sighs
09:20 <Lizz> I wish I'd never swapped dedis -.-
09:20 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: doesn't talk to the masters at all
09:20 <Lucifer> nothing in the logs, anyway
09:20 <Lucifer> you want to check your master logs and see if there's anything?
09:20 <wrtlprnft> but talk_to_master IS set to 1?
09:20 <wrtlprnft> sure
09:20 <Lucifer> yes, it is
09:20 <wrtlprnft> port/ip?
09:21 <Lizz> blackice port/ip?
09:21 <Lucifer> BLACK ICE
09:21 <Lucifer> that grep outta work
09:21 <Lucifer> port 4536
09:21  * Lucifer doesn't know the IP
09:21 <Lizz> port 4540 IP 206.222.21.90
09:22 <Lucifer> 206.222.21.90
09:22 <Lizz> unless u changed the port
09:22 <Lucifer> I didn't change it, and it's 4536
09:22 <Lizz> O.o
09:22 <Lucifer> SERVER_PORT 4536
09:23 <wrtlprnft> nothing
09:23 <Lucifer> know of any settings that disable talk_to_master?
09:24 <Lucifer> how about Devils Rings, same IP, port 4535
09:24 <Lucifer> got something from there?
09:25 <wrtlprnft> yeah
09:25 <wrtlprnft> what about config/master.srv?
09:25 <wrtlprnft> maybe that is empty
09:26 <wrtlprnft> or non-existant or something
09:26 <Lucifer> it's there and looks right
09:26 <Lucifer> if there was a problem parsing it, there'd be an error message int he log, right?
09:26 <wrtlprnft> not if it's empty
09:27 <wrtlprnft> maybe try putting another correct one into the same path as settings_dedicated.cfg
09:27 <wrtlprnft> to make sure it can find it
09:29 <Lucifer> Closing socket bound to *.*.*.*:33551  ?
09:32 <wrtlprnft> that would be the socket used for communicating to the masters if i'm not mistaken
09:33 <Lucifer> well, armastart needs some work
09:33 <Lucifer> it apparently doesn't flush when it makes log entries
09:34 <Lucifer> I want to blame armastart, but arma is finding the right config files
09:34 <Lucifer> and I'm giving up, try starting from scratch by copying a working installation and see what you get with it :)
09:34 <Lizz> ok.. thankyou Loocee
09:36 <Lizz> Monkey suggested putting the settings across to the Devils Rings server
09:36 <Lucifer> or, if you made this installation by copying a working installation, try recompiling arma with this prefix
09:36 <Lucifer> well, if it's the settings, do you really want to break a working server?  :)
09:36 <Lizz> mmm
09:37 <Lucifer> anyway, I'll sleep on it, and maybe I'll come up with something, maybe not, sorry I couldn't be more helpful
09:37 <Lizz> I just want a server running the same game settings.. how hard can it be? -.-
09:37 <Lucifer> well, I didn't try running the server by hand, without armastart
09:37 <Lizz> thats ok Loocee.. thanks for taking a look though
09:38 <Lizz> I don't even know what that means lol
09:39 <Lizz> I can start the server back up on the old dedi.. just so I can play.. but it won't last for long.. only till I cancel that dedi
09:40 <Lizz> because when on the old dedi it shows on master list
09:45 <Lizz> then again.. maybe not -.-
09:59 <Lizz> should there be info in the settings_customs.cfg?
09:59 <Lizz> er nvm
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15:45 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/why_google_hates_ebay.png
15:47 <StickyNoob> what does that have to do with ebay or google?
15:48 <guru3> google ads
15:48 <StickyNoob> ahh i see it
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15:52 <Flex> why would google hate that?
15:52 <Flex> they get the $$$
15:53 <guru3> if it's not obvious
15:53 <guru3> either i'm an idiot or you are
15:53 <guru3> i would be pissed off if i was google
15:53 <Flex> google is too big for that.. why would they give a shit
15:54 <guru3> hard for me to say
15:54 <guru3> afk for lunch now
15:54 <Flex> i understand what you're saying, but still
15:58 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob and Flex I need more advice
15:59 <Monkey_arma> ok so I've got my Athlon XP 2400+, ASRock mobo.
15:59 <Monkey_arma> Now I can get 350watt PSU for £10 or 400watt PSU for £5
16:00 <Monkey_arma> is it worth gettin the 350 in energy saving?
16:00 <Flex> i'd go with the £5 personally
16:00 <Flex> psu's aren't really anything to worry about when your rig is as pricy as your psu :p
16:01 <Monkey_arma> so far ive spent £33
16:01 <Monkey_arma> It about how much money in energy i will save flex
16:02 <Monkey_arma> but if i get a decent gfx card it may cost me £25
16:02 <Monkey_arma> psu comes into it
16:03 <Flex> who cares about the electricity bill!
16:03 <Flex> i leave everything on for fast use, even my water
16:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah! leave your AC running on full power all the time, and if it gets too cold open the window
16:05 <Flex> y0p
16:05 <wrtlprnft> and if it's eaven colder outside turn on everything that uses up electricity or gas
16:05 <wrtlprnft> *even
16:05 <Monkey_arma> my current electric bill is £60 for 3 months..so not too bad, but thats with a 200watt PSU
16:05 <Flex> lol it's not going to change it a lot..
16:06 <Flex> pennys probably
16:06 <Monkey_arma> but I've started leaving my comp on for longer periocs
16:06 <Monkey_arma> *d
16:06 <wrtlprnft> Flex: you're probably wrong. Something that runs 24/7 makes a REAL difference
16:06 <Flex> if i'm not wrong, it only takes what it needs.. not more
16:06 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: is your house insured?
16:07 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob: wtf has that got to do with FA?
16:07 <StickyNoob> well i need to know if a dodgy psu is allowed to burn down your house or not
16:07 <Monkey_arma> LOL
16:07 <Monkey_arma> both PSU are 2nd hand i think
16:07 <Flex> that's not gona happen
16:08 <StickyNoob> Flex: why is that not going to happen?
16:08 <Monkey_arma> its from good computers tho
16:08 <StickyNoob> just because they haven't yet, doesn't mean they won't in the future.
16:08 <Flex> i'm no electrician, but circuit will cut and worse it could do it fuck your computer
16:09 <Flex> is^
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16:09 <StickyNoob> i've got a fairly large sample set of people with psus and i've seen a bit too much sparking and PSUs alight that i'll never be buying anything cheap.
16:09 <StickyNoob> if by 'fuck your computer' you mean flames, then yes.
16:09 <Flex> yeah it happens, but think about it.. what's the risk of it going out of control
16:10 <Flex> unless you like to put your pcu next to stuff that are easly flammable
16:10 <StickyNoob> for the £20 it costs to buy a good power supply, waaay too high.
16:10 <Flex> he's on budget.. he's comparing £5 and £10 power supplys
16:10 <Flex> they're both shit
16:10 <Flex> lol
16:10 <akira_arma> O.o
16:11 <StickyNoob> well yes. Though that implies he might not have anything worth saving if his flat was alight, so I guess you've got a point.
16:11 <madmax> why is it firefox download day, and why should I download it?
16:11 <Flex> lol, personally i wouldn't worry either considering the whole set up isn't worth that much
16:11 <Flex> madmax, v3 or something
16:12 <Flex> StickyNoob, also those burnouts.. they must of been huge power supplies or something
16:12 <Flex> 500+
16:14  * Monkey_arma points out that you should clean dust from inside your PSU once a year at least
16:16 <StickyNoob> Flex: naa any PSU can set on fire, size dosent have anything to do with it really
16:17 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob: im on some cheapo packard bell shite for 7+ years and no fire or psu fuck up
16:17 <Monkey_arma> i'll risk it ;)
16:17 <Flex> when you're a burn victim.. don't tell StickyNoob  :p
16:17 <StickyNoob> the quality of computer components is dropping
16:17 <Monkey_arma> then if i get an older second hand psu i will be ok
16:17 <Monkey_arma> ;)
16:18 <Monkey_arma> btw my mobo takes sdram and ddr ram
16:18 <Flex> amazing
16:18 <Monkey_arma> ddr is most expensive part of comp
16:18 <StickyNoob> well 350 vs 400 isnt really going to make much difference at all in terms of power useage
16:18 <Monkey_arma> so i will just get another sdram stick to match the one i have on this
16:19 <Flex> yeah, so i guess price finalizes it (for me)
16:19 <Monkey_arma> then when i get the gfx card i'll get ddr
16:19 <StickyNoob> see if you can get the data sheets and look at the efficeincy ratings of each
16:19 <Monkey_arma> guys in #hardware said bout effiecienty
16:19 <Monkey_arma> but for my money to spend they just said get cheap one and cross fingers ;)
16:19 <StickyNoob> yeah, its the important thing
16:19 <StickyNoob> did they mention burning?
16:20 <Monkey_arma> lol no
16:20 <Flex> did they mention tin foil on head? :p
16:20 <Monkey_arma> no mention of houses on fire
16:20 <Monkey_arma> oh yes they mentioned if you put foil on head you can get some power from your brain to reduce psu consumption
16:20 <Flex> tin foil and a make-shift coat hanger as an anti-rader
16:20 <StickyNoob> atleast my tin foil hat is not going to get burnt onto my head
16:21 <Monkey_arma> no but it will get the shit kicked out of you in the high street
16:21 <Flex> lol it will?
16:21 <StickyNoob> naa i think that will continue to happen with or without the hat
16:22 <Flex> yeah, don't worry about that stopping it Monkey_arma
16:23 <Flex> ok Monkey_arma so when my computer brakes or something.. i'm not going to buy anything to replace it just so i save more money then you :p
16:24 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: ok so is that a completed comuter then?
16:24 <Monkey_arma> not yet
16:24 <Monkey_arma> i need to get DDR and the GFX card
16:24 <Monkey_arma> not  100% sure which gfx to get
16:24 <Monkey_arma> guy has GeForce 5200 FX for £25
16:27 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=5200+fx&oe=utf-8&scoring=p&authorid=1203199&cdn=LambdaTek&lnk=storesugg £25 not a great deal(if its second hand)
16:27 <Monkey_arma> yes i know
16:27 <Monkey_arma> but no p&p
16:27 <Monkey_arma> and gfx is hard to get round here
16:27 <Monkey_arma> pcworld have 6200 for £30 new
16:28 <Monkey_arma> i do have onboard gfx btw
16:31 <Monkey_arma> "to optimise compatibility it is not recommended to use 2 different models of the DIMMS at the same time"
16:31 <Monkey_arma> does that mean brand or specs or what?
16:31 <Monkey_arma> ah it means spec..ok nvm
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17:53 <Monkey_arma> right ive got psu
17:54 <akira_arma> #tea
17:54 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): <V>23, corn, Element, IL, Joker, Longball|MBC, redice, Steven
17:56 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: which one
17:56 <StickyNoob> model/make?
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18:04 <Monkey_arma> heh i aint got it in my hand yet
18:05 <Monkey_arma> will pick it up tomorrow or next day
18:06 <Monkey_arma> i'll get some sdram to tie me over till i find good cheap ddr
18:06 <Monkey_arma> onboard gfx is s3 prosavage 3d
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19:44 <madmax> Spore trial is out: http://www.spore.com/trial
19:46 <madmax> well, "creature creator"
19:46 <akira_arma> lol
19:49 <Monkey_arma> er...
19:56 <madmax> you guys know spore, right?
19:59 <Monkey_arma> *no*
20:00 <madmax> nice concept, from the preview videos at least
20:02 <Monkey_arma> riiiiight
20:02 <Monkey_arma>  /me phones the men in white coats
20:04 <madmax> if you haven't seen any video, I guess the game isn't appealing at all
20:04 <madmax> but just because you don't know it...
20:08 <Monkey_arma> im only messing
20:09 <Monkey_arma> i like original games...i just havent looked at this much
20:09 <Monkey_arma> i hate most computer games though because most are crap
20:12 <akira_arma> not true
20:12 <akira_arma> there are quite some outstanding games
20:12 <akira_arma> you can consider them work of art
20:13 <akira_arma> #tea
20:13 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): -*GW*-?réàdlor?, <T¤$afari$Kater, Element, xfroggy, ~|DS|~ Judders, ¦×¦BlingBling
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20:23 <Monkey_arma> like what?
20:24 <akira_arma> well
20:24 <akira_arma> starting with rpgs:
20:24 <akira_arma> ultima 7,8
20:24 <akira_arma> fallout 1&2
20:24 <akira_arma> system shock 1&2
20:24 <akira_arma> arx fatalis
20:25 <akira_arma> arcanum
20:25 <akira_arma> rts:
20:25 <akira_arma> Z
20:25 <akira_arma> sacrifice
20:25 <akira_arma> turn based:
20:25 <akira_arma> civilization
20:25 <akira_arma> galactic civ
20:25 <akira_arma> master of orion
20:25 <akira_arma> master of magic
20:26 <akira_arma> and alot more
20:26 <madmax> Gran Turismo & GTA ftw
20:26 <akira_arma> gta 2 is fun
20:27 <akira_arma> :)
20:27 <akira_arma> i like it most of all GTAs
20:27 <Monkey_arma> master of magic and ultima :\
20:27 <akira_arma> that you dont like fantasy doesnt mean they are bad games
20:27 <Monkey_arma> i do like fantasy games
20:28 <akira_arma> did you play ultima 8?
20:28 <Monkey_arma> yes
20:28 <akira_arma> ok
20:28 <akira_arma> too hard? :D
20:28 <Monkey_arma> and ulitma underworld was better but still not great
20:29 <akira_arma> its a matter of taste
20:29 <akira_arma> but
20:29 <Monkey_arma> gta possibly good ...the early ones were shit though
20:29 <akira_arma> LOL
20:29 <Monkey_arma> gran turismo not so bad
20:29 <akira_arma> see you just only like 3d games :/
20:29 <Monkey_arma> nope
20:29 <akira_arma> so what
20:29 <Monkey_arma> i love good 2d gmaes
20:29 <madmax> GTA 1&2 were great :-D
20:29 <akira_arma> gta 1&2 are way funnier than the later
20:30 <Monkey_arma> in early gta you couldnt see where the fuck you were going
20:30 <Monkey_arma> and there werent enough turning angles
20:30 <akira_arma> so you like total control?
20:30 <akira_arma> :)
20:30 <akira_arma> benevolent dict...
20:30  * akira_arma runs
20:30 <madmax> latter ones are good too :P
20:31 <Monkey_arma> supercars was better than old gtas
20:31 <akira_arma> matter of tate anyways
20:31 <akira_arma> taste
20:31 <akira_arma> but generally speaking : there are some unique games with alot of immersion
20:31 <Monkey_arma> not many
20:32 <akira_arma> games i counted had that
20:32 <Monkey_arma> so many games are made
20:32 <Monkey_arma> most suck
20:32 <Monkey_arma> name me a good beat em up...
20:32 <akira_arma> beat em up dont immerse..
20:32 <akira_arma> they are just for fun lol
20:32 <Monkey_arma> teken is terrible
20:32 <akira_arma> its fun enough
20:32 <Monkey_arma> ss2 is pretty poor..but better
20:33 <akira_arma> ss2?
20:33 <Monkey_arma> street fighter 2
20:33 <akira_arma> ah
20:33 <Monkey_arma> mortal kombat pfft
20:33 <madmax> soul calibur
20:33 <Monkey_arma> oh noes
20:33 <Monkey_arma> thats worse than teken
20:34 <akira_arma> planescape torment is also a great game
20:34 <akira_arma> and then the many good adventures
20:34 <Monkey_arma> command and conquer would have been a classic with more unit types and more tangential gameplay
20:34 <Monkey_arma> too linear tho
20:34 <akira_arma> did you play Z or sacrifice?
20:35 <akira_arma> those are real rts
20:35 <akira_arma> not the slowpoke ressource gathering stuff like the others
20:35 <Monkey_arma> Z is lame
20:35 <Monkey_arma> lots of units
20:35 <Monkey_arma> but no charisma
20:35 <madmax> high standards heh monkey?
20:35 <Monkey_arma> yes :P
20:35 <akira_arma> no
20:35 <Monkey_arma> i love computer games in theory
20:36 <akira_arma> fucked up stnadards
20:36  * madmax starts to think Monkey_arma doesn't like anything at all
20:36 <Monkey_arma> i like armagetron advanced
20:36 <Monkey_arma> super mario kart
20:36 <Monkey_arma> doom2
20:36 <akira_arma> Z is actually a very good game ebcause you have to really think how to beat it
20:36 <Monkey_arma> (super mario on snes not anything later)
20:36 <Monkey_arma> Z has good ai
20:36 <akira_arma> and good maps
20:36 <madmax> you probably need to try more games
20:37 <madmax> if you don't, of course you won't find anything you like
20:37 <Monkey_arma> also sensible world of soccer was great
20:37 <Monkey_arma> all newer football games suck
20:38 <Monkey_arma> i dont like most 3D first person games..they are generally crap
20:38 <akira_arma> bioshock is good
20:38 <Monkey_arma> i didnt like unreal or quake
20:38 <Monkey_arma> rainbow 6 some say is good..i may try it some day
20:39 <Monkey_arma> is splinter cell any good?
20:39 <madmax> what on earth
20:39 <madmax> are you saying PES is bad!?
20:39 <Monkey_arma> what is pes?
20:39 <akira_arma> pro evo soccer
20:39 <Monkey_arma> well all soccer games i have played since swof are shit
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20:39 <Monkey_arma> that sounds familiar
20:40 <madmax> metal gear solid is great too
20:41 <Monkey_arma> that was not bad actually
20:41 <Monkey_arma> i completed it with a friend a while back
20:41 <madmax> snake eater was awesome
20:42 <madmax> that's the last of the series I played
20:42 <Monkey_arma> i hope no one here likes final fantasy
20:42 <madmax> heh not me
20:43 <akira_arma> its a  funny grinding game :D
20:43 <akira_arma> when you just swant to stop thinking
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21:08 <akira_arma> #tea
21:08 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): .dBd|theKraken, CHEEB, killerbees19, Sprunk, ~|DS|~PhantoM~, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦1dollor
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21:15 <Concord> #aka epsy
21:15 <armabot> Concord: ¿5074 phail |x|boulangerie |x|baguette |x|vim |x|nano_ftl |x|vim_ftw |x|uncle_benz |x|_e |x|_bernadette |x|epy epsy
21:15 <madmax> heh fail: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
21:16 <epsy> still in 2.0 ? :P
21:16 <epsy> #aka 0:epsy@x
21:16 <armabot> epsy: ¿3796 pep|x|y 0:epsy@x
21:16 <madmax> worse
21:16 <madmax> "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable"
21:16 <Concord> ty epsy
21:16 <epsy> haha
21:16 <Concord> someone in cafe thought someone else was you
21:16 <Concord> peaces
21:16 <epsy> Concord, useful, eh?
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21:16 <epsy> Concord, who/what ?
21:16 <epsy> :(
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21:17 <Concord> yes it is max
21:17 <Concord> #aka |x|1dollar
21:17 <armabot> Concord: I don't know anything about '|x|1dollar'!
21:18 <Concord> #aka |x| 1dollar
21:18 <armabot> Concord: I don't know anything about '|x|_1dollar'!
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21:20 <madmax> did you tell him that if you don't rename online it doesn't show?
21:24 <madmax> Romania ftw
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21:29 <epsy> madmax,
21:29 <epsy> madmax, i didn't have time to tell him anything :P
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22:53 <Flex> #lastseen Flex
22:53 <armabot> Flex: FleX seems to be on .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. right now.
22:54 <Flex> hehe...
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23:26 <Monkey_arma> forts up, just not cafe...
23:26 <Monkey_arma> #ss ladders
23:30 <akira_arma> #tea
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23:33 <madmax> #armaservers
23:41 <wrtlprnft> #ping
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23:42 <wrtlprnft> supybot sucks…
23:43 <wrtlprnft> it shouldn't take 1GHz or CPU power and 1GiB of RAM to run an IRC bot.
23:43 <Monkey_arma> super duck nano fort is on top of master list wtf...
23:43 <wrtlprnft> s/or/of
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23:44 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
23:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 1227 seconds old; Super Duck Nano Fortress! (10/14), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (10/10), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), ID TECH CAMP ONLY!!! (8/16), iD Tech Fun (8/16), WILDCAT (8/8), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (8/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), · Plane·of·Equilibrium · (7/8), Nexus9 (NO (3 more messages)
23:46 <akira_arma> anyone going to cafe?
23:48  * wrtlprnft is going to bed.
23:49 <deja_vu> sleep well :)
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23:58 <Monkey_arma> yes we going cafe
23:58 <Monkey_arma> from sumo

Log from 2008-06-18:
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00:26 <Flex> #tea
00:26 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): jdog
00:27 <Monkey_arma> you just missed it
00:27 <Flex> what happened
00:27 <Monkey_arma> we played cafe
00:28 <Monkey_arma> then we left
00:28 <Monkey_arma> the end.
00:29 <Flex> missed it
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01:18 <StickyNoob> ffs took me 3 days to track down why i cant texture 3d models, saved the bloody textures with f'ing Run Length Encoding
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01:26 <ivantis> #sd -v space-lab
01:26 <armabot> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (0/8):
01:26 <ivantis> all right
01:27 <ivantis> hey, anyone here administer the ct site? somethings wrong with the serverbrowser
01:28 <ivantis> jist to say,
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01:34 <armabot> lpbugs: [231506] Undefined symbols || [231500] compile error in tUniversalVariables.h || [223625] buggy username after /deop'ing || [222979] ubuntu 8.04 (hardy) compatibility || [220195] port mismatch while authing, client sending a wrong port || [217363] server address mismatches while authing when both IPs/port were same || [210548] Wrtl Release: minimap randomly rotates || [205977] Trunk can't parse v1 zones from map files || [19
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01:50 <Monkey_arma> hi lizz, how is server....did you reinstall?
01:50 <madmax> lizz :o
01:50 <Lizz> Hi guys
01:50 <Lizz> and no monkey not yet :(
01:50 <Lizz> Hi maxxxy :)
01:51 <madmax> hello :)
01:51 <Lizz> Loocee had a look last night as well.. and can't find the problem either so Ill ask spidey to set me up another server and add the setting to that one and see if it works
01:54 <Monkey_arma> yes im sure it will work
01:54 <Lizz> I hope so.. I miss the settings lol
01:55 <Lizz> so do the regs that used that server
01:55 <Lizz> I'd install a server myself if I knew how.. but the tech stuff is better left to those that know it well I think
01:55 <Monkey_arma> and its a low rubber server
01:55 <Lizz> well 6 rubber
01:55 <Lizz> not that low
01:56 <Monkey_arma> its low in arma terms
01:56 <Monkey_arma> even though i play 0-5 rubber
01:56 <Lizz> lmao.. I guess.. though I consider 2 low :P
01:59 <StickyNoob> hmm i need to get a fort server set up for LAN next week
02:00 <Monkey_arma> use one of lukes..he has lots
02:00 <Monkey_arma> ^^
02:01 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: learn what LAN means
02:01 <StickyNoob> are the cafe cfg's available anywhere, the fort cfgs in config/examples/ dont seem right
02:02 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr: i know what lan is thx
02:02 <akira_arma> gosh!
02:02 <StickyNoob> well using an external server would kind of defeat the point of a lan
02:03 <akira_arma> he knows!
02:03 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob: yes they are
02:03 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: where?
02:03 <Monkey_arma> wrtl has them on a webpage
02:06 <StickyNoob> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/tronsector-0.0.1.aamap.xml wtf
02:06 <StickyNoob> has anyone ever played that?
02:18 <madmax> question is, who would be crazy enough
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05:44 <Lizz> hi Loocee
05:48 <Stewie-arma> rofl
05:49 <Stewie-arma> anyone here know how to change the MAC address on Mac OSX 10.5.3?
05:49 <Stewie-arma> er
05:49 <Stewie-arma> cause I can change the en0 one, but I'm pretty sure the public one is en1 >.>
05:49 <Stewie-arma> and I can't seem to change it.
05:50 <Stewie-arma> why am I asking this here?
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09:18 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: i tried to…
09:19 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: http://armagetron.at/~armagetronad/cafe_settings_custom.cfg
09:20 <wrtlprnft> hardlinked to the actual config file, so it should always be up to date
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13:31 <pippijn> how can I disable gcc's attribute 'warn_unused_result' for one specific call?
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13:58 <pippijn> as in.. the function call's return value must always be used except in one single code line
14:19 <StickyNoob> so disable warnings for a single line of code?
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15:03 <epsy> #ping
15:03 <armabot> pong
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15:17 <Lizz> Hi Monkey
15:19 <Monkey_arma> hi lizz
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17:24 <epsy> hey newb\e
17:25 <newb\e> hi
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17:42 <K-Yo> erm
17:42 <K-Yo> #tea
17:42 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): +mozg+, CT׶4 (P4@crazy-tronners.com), gryzor (ed@forums), Just to try it, SpeeD (speedx@forums), sukakendo, Xyron, ~|DS|~sunny
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17:51 <K-Yo> epsy: c'est le serveur qui plante ou ma connection?
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17:53 <epsy> toi aussi?
17:59 <K-Yo> oui
17:59 <K-Yo> 2eme fois
18:02 <K-Yo> epsy, plus mnt
18:05 <epsy> oui oui c pas la premiere fois
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18:20 <akira_arma> #tea
18:20 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): corn, cT¤K-yo, freako, gryzor (ed@forums), Hakkenui, Hamlet, ikono, Monkey, ~|DS|~sunny, ¦×¦epsy
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19:45 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer_arma: there seems to be an error in trunk configure script:
19:46 <epsy> ..go on..
19:47 <Monkey_arma> checking for location of FTGL includes... not found
19:47 <Monkey_arma> configure: error: FTGL headers not found on your system. Please pass the correct location via --with-ftgl=<path to FTGL include directory>.
19:48 <Monkey_arma> Ive done that with    --with-ftgl=/usr/local/include/FTGL
19:48  * epsy wasn't
19:48 <Monkey_arma> (and with all subsets of that and with/without the final /)
19:48 <epsy> :)
19:49 <Monkey_arma> ls /usr/local/include/FTGL
19:49 <Monkey_arma> FTBBox.h         FTBufferGlyph.h   FTGLExtrdFont.h    FTGLTextureFont.h  FTPixmapGlyph.h   FTTextureGlyph.h
19:49 <Monkey_arma> FTBitmapGlyph.h  FTExtrdGlyph.h    FTGLOutlineFont.h  FTGlyph.h          FTPoint.h         ftgl.h
19:49 <Monkey_arma> FTBuffer.h       FTFont.h          FTGLPixmapFont.h   FTLayout.h         FTPolyGlyph.h
19:49 <Monkey_arma> FTBufferFont.h   FTGLBitmapFont.h  FTGLPolygonFont.h  FTOutlineGlyph.h   FTSimpleLayout.h
19:49 <Monkey_arma> I think someone else had issues with zthread and had to install it in /usr not /usr/local
19:49 <Monkey_arma> but still....should accept /usr/local
19:50 <Monkey_arma> wrtlprnft: also maybe could help on this on3
19:50 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't --with-ftgl take the ftgl configuration script as an argument?
19:51 <epsy> umm
19:51 <epsy> --with-ftgl isn't documentated in ./configure help
19:51 <wrtlprnft> also try --with-ftgl=/usr/local/include
19:52 <epsy> er, nvm, was uing 0.2.8 sources, heh
19:52 <Monkey_arma> wtrl i tried all combinations of path
19:53 <Monkey_arma> i'll repaste the crucial line
19:53 <Monkey_arma> Please pass the correct location via --with-ftgl=<path to FTGL include directory>.
19:53 <wrtlprnft> -CXXFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/FTGL\ -I/usr/local/include ./configure maybe?
19:53 <wrtlprnft> without the leading -
19:54 <Monkey_arma> isnt that a compile flag?
19:54 <Monkey_arma> i need configure flag
19:54 <Monkey_arma> will that configure then compile wtf...
19:55 <wrtlprnft> no, but it should cause all compiler instances to use the correct include path
19:55 <Monkey_arma> well i cant get configure to complete yet
19:55 <wrtlprnft> (note that configure uses the compiler to test all these things)
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19:56 <Monkey_arma> hmm right ok
19:56 <Monkey_arma> so that was actually 2 commands
19:56 <Monkey_arma> set flags then run configure again
19:56 <Monkey_arma> i will try it
19:58  * Monkey_arma sighs..
19:58 <Monkey_arma> didnt work
20:03 <Monkey_arma> i remember with zthread, only thing that worked was to install in /usr
20:03 <Monkey_arma> (not local)
20:03 <Monkey_arma> you might wanna fix that :P
20:22 <Monkey_arma> (i did  it as one command too didnt work also)
20:24 <Monkey_arma> OK ive even tried installing FTGl in /usr...still dont work
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23:02 <Concord> #aka |||||||||||||||
23:02 <armabot> Concord: ¿17964 chamaki -=|=- ||||||||||||||| catman hypersonic
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23:02 <akira_arma> #tea
23:02 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): <V>BâTTLê, Concord, ouistiti!, |x| Raiden, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ Sticky
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23:06 <StickyNoob>   yeah who was that ||||||||||||||| guy
23:07 <hoax> ¦×¦ Sticky
23:07 <hoax> haha
23:26 <akira_arma> -tea
23:26 <akira_arma> #tea
23:26 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): budsprunt, CTxGonZaP, Hamlet, madmax (madmax@forums), Monkey, ouistiti!, z3r0, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~G5
23:34 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8489 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Don't do FTGL include path magic if it is not required because pkgconfig gives something that looks like a correct path.
23:36 <Monkey_arma> ok wrtlprnft zman has fixed the FTGL issue..thx anyway
23:42 <Monkey_arma> just in case anyone wants to know how slow my computer (900mhz, 128meg ram) is, it took me 14 hours to compile boost...
23:51 <madmax> hmm, good that you mentioned that
23:53 <madmax> what's the version trunk needs?
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23:54 <madmax> I tried compiling trunk but it was failing, thought it was something related to bison
23:54 <madmax> but then again, I removed boost and didn't remember it
23:55 <epsy> StickyNoob, it was izual
23:55 <StickyNoob> who?
23:55 <Monkey_arma> max just get latest version of boost
23:55 <Monkey_arma> *latest stable
23:55 <epsy> <StickyNoob>   yeah who was that ||||||||||||||| guy
23:55 <madmax> heh.
23:56 <epsy> boost? are we using boost?
23:56 <epsy> o_O
23:56 <madmax> it isn't a requirement anymore?
23:56 <Monkey_arma> yes you need to have bison and yacc installed
23:56 <madmax> it was needed some time ago
23:56 <Monkey_arma> boost is a requrement
23:57 <epsy> indirect dependency?
23:57 <epsy> but only at build time
23:57 <Monkey_arma> well without  it, configure does not complete
23:57 <epsy> ..right?
23:57 <Monkey_arma> hmm
23:58 <epsy> if it's alredy required at runtime i don't see why are we wondering to migrate from zthreads to boost
23:58 <Monkey_arma> you also need ftgl
23:58 <Monkey_arma> which is the issue ive been having but zman fixed now
23:58 <epsy> isn't that font redering?
23:59 <Monkey_arma> ftgl is font/gl stuff
23:59 <epsy> :X

Log from 2008-06-19:
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00:00 <madmax> oh right, nemo put ftgl/boost as a drag and drop library :-D
00:03 <epsy> gn
00:03 <Monkey_arma> gn
00:03 <Monkey_arma> epsy
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00:03 <madmax> btw monkey, here it's quite slow to compile boost too
00:04 <Monkey_arma> boost is *huge* beast of a thing
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00:23 <ivantis> ha!
00:26 <StickyNoob> hay
00:26 <ivantis> hey
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00:38 <Monkey_arma> right i got trunk working...anyone for cafe?
00:38 <Monkey_arma> :P
00:38 <StickyNoob> tea
00:38 <StickyNoob> #tea
00:38 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:42 <Monkey_arma> oh noes...BUG :(
00:42 <Monkey_arma> armagetronad: tnl/t_draw.c:203: bind_inputs: Assertion `inputs[i]->BufferObj->Pointer' failed.
00:42 <Monkey_arma> Aborted
00:44 <StickyNoob> hmm i tried trunk from 2 days ago and it worked ok
00:46 <Monkey_arma> wrtlprnft or z-man...bug above for you :P
00:47 <Monkey_arma> If you need any more details about my system or w/e just ask.
00:49 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-02-16.txt time 16:04
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00:56 <Monkey_arma> hehe crappy intel GOU
00:56 <Monkey_arma> er GPU
00:57 <Monkey_arma> ok i can safely say no crash on .2.8.2.1
00:59 <Monkey_arma> there are some serious intel issues at the moment..as i had too with my xserver...had to add:
01:00 <Monkey_arma> Option "AIGLX" "off"
01:00 <Monkey_arma> to xorg.conf as a workaround for intel bug
01:00 <Monkey_arma> Apparently they've fixed them in newest drivers (or at least are in process of)
01:06 <Monkey_arma> #later tell z-man I'm getting same bug as wrtl but with create and call too. I have Intel i810 gfx.
01:06 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
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01:20 <madmax> aaargh, Xcode was using bison 1.28 instead of 2.3
01:21 <Monkey_arma> ye i had problem with wrong version of alocal a while back..gotta watch them versions
01:22 <madmax> lets see if it builds now....
01:22 <Monkey_arma> if you get as many bugs as me you're wasting effort in compiling trunk ;)
01:23 <madmax> heh I probably won't use it anyway, but it's been a long time since I tried it
01:24 <madmax> there's other bugs besides that one you pasted here?
01:24 <Monkey_arma> lol ye
01:24 <madmax> hmm
01:24 <Monkey_arma> i'll take some screenshots
01:24 <madmax> better post on the forums or something
01:24 <Monkey_arma> Track: /usr/local/share/games/armagetronad/music/when.ogg
01:24 <Monkey_arma> Opened playlist
01:24 <Monkey_arma> Segmentation fault
01:25 <madmax> well that isn't supposed to work I think...
01:25 <madmax> in the MacOS project file I think stuff related to music is disabled
01:25 <Monkey_arma> i have music turned off
01:25 <Monkey_arma> that happens in master list
01:26 <Monkey_arma> [driAllocateTexture:636] unable to allocate texture
01:26 <Monkey_arma> [driAllocateTexture:636] unable to allocate texture
01:27 <madmax> ouch
01:30 <akira_arma> #tea
01:30 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:30 <akira_arma> O.o
01:43 <madmax> no crashes in the 60 seconds I tried it :-P
01:43 <madmax> #armaconfig mode
01:43 <armabot> madmax: ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE: Last screen resolution (default: -1) || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 768) || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 1024) || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE: Screen resolution (default: -1) || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 768) || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 1024) || CAMERA_GLANCE_MODE: Way the (2 more messages)
01:44 <Monkey_arma> ok someone recommend a site where i can paste images
01:44 <Monkey_arma> ive got proof ;)
01:45 <madmax> #armaconfig camera_glance_mode
01:45 <armabot> madmax: CAMERA_GLANCE_MODE: Way the camera switches into glances. Valid settings range from 0 to 3 (default: 2)
01:48 <madmax> anyone knows what's CAMERA_GLANCE_ANGULAR_VELOCITY_BONUS?
01:49 <madmax> hmm, source has some hints nvm
01:53 <Monkey_arma> lack seems to know trunk camera settings well
01:54 <madmax> when I complain with it, he always points me to camera_glance_angular_velocity, but just that isn't enough :-P
01:55 <Monkey_arma> ye thats crap
01:55 <Monkey_arma> camera comes back slowly
01:56 <madmax> I think I'll see if I can find any hint of where that speed is defined.... tomorrow
01:56 <madmax> gnight
01:56 <akira_arma> #tea
01:56 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:59 <Monkey_arma> gn
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07:05 <spidey> http://ll.atdmt.com/b/AAAVESMTRSML/080618_C_300x250_NEW.jpg
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> er, did you intend to put that link here?
07:28 <Stewie-arma> http://bash.org/?244321
07:28 <Stewie-arma> oh woops
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08:34 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.slate.com/id/2193798?nav=wp
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15:25 <madmax> Monkey_arma: CAMERA_CUSTOM_TURN_SPEED
15:25 <madmax> I guess it's pretty simple
15:26 <madmax> of course, normal turning is affected... but at least it can be a bit faster
15:29 <Monkey_arma> hey max
15:29 <madmax> don't think the speed returning from glance can be separate from that one...
15:30 <Monkey_arma> ive just tested trunk without glew but still crashes
15:30 <Monkey_arma> so back to .2.8.2.1 :(
15:30 <madmax> maybe its your intel :P
15:30 <madmax> I've been trying it out, no crashes yet
15:37 <StickyNoob> im using trunk on a 945GM ok
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15:44 <Monkey_arma> yes i think it has something to do with it
15:44 <Monkey_arma> you tried latest  trunk sticky?
15:45 <StickyNoob> as of 3 or 4 days ago
15:45 <Monkey_arma> try again with newest just to be sure
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17:40 <Monkey_arma> btw, version 0.3.0 does not seem to crash at all oO...
17:40 <Monkey_arma> i will test more...
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17:44 <Monkey_arma> it gets a bug but doesnt crash
17:45 <Monkey_arma> and the bug is only the font rendering and it still works enough
17:48 <madmax> what .3.0? from aabeta?
17:50 <Monkey_arma> ok ignore me...seg fault
17:50 <Monkey_arma> :P
17:50 <Monkey_arma> not as bad as trunk but still
17:51 <Monkey_arma> *fecked*
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17:51 <Monkey_arma> yes max, .3.0 from beta page
17:56 <epsy> the "about" screen crashes in 0.3
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18:01 <Monkey_arma> epsy intel gfx seems to be the common denominator...me, you, wrtl
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18:17 <epsy> er?
18:18 <epsy> Monkey_arma, the common factor to what?
18:19 <Monkey_arma> we all had bugs with .3 versions
18:19 <Monkey_arma> only intel owners seem to be having issues
18:19 <epsy> the about screen bug has been fixed ages ago
18:19 <Monkey_arma> its not the about screen i have
18:19 <Monkey_arma> its master list and in game
18:19 <Monkey_arma> 2 bugs
18:20 <Monkey_arma> maybe connected
18:20 <epsy> ?
18:20 <epsy> what bugs?
18:24 <Monkey_arma> want me to dcc you screenshots of the first?
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18:25 <epsy> sure
18:33  * epsy still awaits
18:34 <Monkey_arma> oh sorfry
18:34 <Monkey_arma> lol
18:34 <Monkey_arma> was edditting
18:34 <epsy> " are going to ever send it ? " " i will "
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18:35 <hoax> lol!
18:35 <epsy> O_o
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18:35 <epsy> he actually sent them
18:35 <epsy> wrong × button? :D
18:35 <Monkey_arma> ??
18:36 <epsy> what's the prob on these shots?
18:37 <epsy> the weird stuff instead of é .
18:37 <epsy> the weird stuff instead of é ?
18:37 <Monkey_arma> look at fort cafe
18:37 <Monkey_arma> in all shots
18:37 <madmax> Monkey_arma: you were really asking for a site to upload images yesterday? imageshack.us
18:38 <epsy> the é ?
18:38 <Monkey_arma> heh
18:38 <Monkey_arma> epsy put them on your server and link here
18:38 <epsy> in my public folder
18:39 <epsy> blah
18:39 <epsy> OK OK i'll ink them
18:39 <epsy> link*
18:39 <StickyNoob> naa put it in your home folder and chmod a+rwx ~
18:39 <Monkey_arma> yes the weird stuff instead of the e
18:39 <epsy> the é you mean :P
18:39 <Monkey_arma> !
18:40 <epsy> arg, my "me" bookmark got wiped out
18:40 <epsy> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/master_error1.png
18:40 <epsy> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/master_error2.png
18:40 <epsy> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/master_error3.png
18:40 <epsy> owned 403
18:41 <epsy> fixed
18:46 <Monkey_arma> maybe give links to zman
18:46 <StickyNoob> what character encodings does arma support?
18:49 <epsy> latin 1
18:50 <epsy> and, lost in the svn repo there's an arma which supports unicode
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19:02 <epsy> #ping
19:02 <armabot> pong
19:05 <madmax> #sd flag fort
19:05 <armabot> madmax: Nexus9 Flag Fortress (NO RUBBER!): Players (8/12): -_0, C$ $oup, C$ Levmyshkin, God, Number3, Player 1, Zaptres
19:12 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8490 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): epsy46: fixed more stuff with /team messages upon invite
19:17 <madmax> it's mayhem that server
19:19 <Monkey_arma> bug in xchat now ^^
19:21 <epsy> btw Monkey_arma
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19:21 <Monkey_arma> yes?
19:21 <Monkey_arma> hah
19:21 <epsy> happy now? :)
19:21 <Monkey_arma> :)
19:22 <epsy> gnna play some descent, bll
19:22 <epsy> bbl
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19:24 <akira_arma> descent O.o
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20:25 <akira_arma> #tea
20:26 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): 1200, <<~luAp~>>, LucaToni, madmax, O--->, Sober, TpDaWg, TrT~Kriki, Xyron
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20:33 <luke-jr> epsy: Unicode is not an encoding
20:48 <epsy> UTF-8, happy? :)
20:49 <luke-jr> maybe
20:50 <epsy> i'll take that as a yes :)
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21:34 <madmax> hello newb|e :-)
21:35 <Monkey_arma> hey
21:37 <FoFoLiNo> hi newb
21:42 <newb|e> hi all
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22:16 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/dogfightv2-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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22:51 <StickyNoob> #aka liza
22:51 <armabot> StickyNoob: I don't know anything about 'liza'!
22:53 <StickyNoob> #serverinfo Team.Sumo
22:53 <armabot> StickyNoob: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (3/16): 3:2 DEU / POR!!, GOD, ¦×¦ liza (mah@heart)
22:54 <K-Yo> #aka -g mah@heart
22:54 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about '-g_mah@heart'!
22:54 <K-Yo> oops
22:55 <K-Yo> #aka mah@heart
22:55 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about 'mah@heart'!
22:55 <madmax> #aka 0:mah@heart
22:55 <armabot> madmax: ¿29223 |x|flash2 0:flash@x 0:mah@heart
22:55 <madmax> there you go
22:56 <madmax> #aka 3:2_DEU_/_POR!!
22:56 <armabot> madmax: I don't know anything about '3:2_deu_/_por!!'!
22:57 <madmax> :-(
22:57 <K-Yo> ty madmax
22:57 <Monkey_arma> i'll give it 5 mins maximum
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23:38 <epsy> gn
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00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:41 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:42 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:42 <BmK|mcp> :O
00:42 <Monkey_arma> hi
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00:43 <K-Yo> loool
00:54 <Flex> lol
00:56 <ct|kyle> heh
00:57 <pippijn> sad
01:06 <K-Yo> :(
01:08 <ct|kyle> ;(
01:09 <Flex> ):
01:10 <madmax> #sd flag fort
01:10 <armabot> madmax: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flag fort” at the moment, sorry.
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03:09 <akira_arma> #armaservers
03:09 <armabot> akira_arma: This data is 7 seconds old; Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [{PHC--MEGATRON--}] (9/32), Swampland Mud Puddle (5/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (5/14), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (4/14), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), |FA| BLACK ICE (3/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), Norm's Place (3/12), Fortress Café (3/32), |Forgotten (1 more message)
03:09 <akira_arma> #tea
03:10 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): <V>Dan, Corn, Player 1
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07:51 <luke-jr> "IRC stands for Internet Relay Connection, it is an IM company but it's a lot better than AOL, MSN, etc.. I am always on and I even have my oun room. If you want to downlaod IRC, which I encourage you to do, then go to http://www.mirc.com (copy and paste). Once you get there go ahead and download/install mIRC."
07:54 <Stewie-arma> ...
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08:29 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: good research there, I didn't know so much detail about IRC
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12:22 <armabot> lpbugs: [241593] bot quits when spectator enters
12:44 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8491 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: fixed redundant " is not allowed to rename to <name>" messages on the client
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13:23 <evaldusi> damn
13:24 <evaldusi> DAMN
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16:13 <Monkey_arma> #aka knox
16:13 <armabot> Monkey_arma: I don't know anything about 'knox'!
16:14 <Monkey_arma> #aka .:]knox
16:14 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
16:14 <madmax> is there a list somewhere of all requirements to build 0.2.8/trunk?
16:14 <Monkey_arma> like libraries?
16:15 <z-wt> knox = kirb
16:15 <Monkey_arma> ah ok z-wt
16:15 <z-wt> .:] Kirb :D
16:15 <Monkey_arma> curb even?
16:15 <Monkey_arma> as in curbside
16:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: Stewie-arma and you don't know what quotation marks mean?
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16:25 <z-wt> luke-jr's girl friend
16:25 <z-wt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYuWWTOOFOY
16:25 <z-wt> :)
16:26 <luke-jr> z-wt: you have a death wish?
16:27 <z-wt> :0
16:28 <luke-jr> stfu kthx
16:29 <z-wt> how unfriendly :(
16:31 <epsy> z-wt, what you said wasn't very friendly either i think
16:31 <epsy> :-P
16:31 <epsy> <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8491 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: fixed redundant " is not allowed to rename to <name>" messages on the client
16:32 <epsy> that will make you happy z-wt :)
16:32 <z-wt> I thought It was :(
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16:33 <epsy> hi 1000Grams :)
16:33 <Lackadaisical> meh
16:33 <Lackadaisical> can you keep it to yourself next time?
16:36 <epsy> mmmm
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16:46 <madmax> #tea
16:46 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): .:] xfroggy, Cinema Cheater, CTxGonZaP, cT¤K-yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), gryzor (ed@forums), JoeThePharmer, Midnight, Monkey, Player 1, van Nelle, ¦×¦ liza (flash@x)
16:47 <hoax> haha epsy exposing the hos
16:47 <hoax> & luke what u gona do kill him?
16:48 <xfroggy> she's a bit little for luke no
16:48 <xfroggy> or are we speaking about the bunny :D
16:48 <Monkey_arma> epsy well done for uncovering smurfs!
16:48 <Monkey_arma> ban smurfing!!
16:49 <epsy> ..lol..
16:50 <hoax> epsy +1 arma pointz for u
16:51 <epsy> /admin slap epsy -1 ? :)
16:51 <StickyNoob> anyone know who the guys in the pQ clan are?
16:53 <hoax> pQ?
16:53 <StickyNoob> #lastseen [pQ]
16:53 <armabot> StickyNoob: [pQ]Hero has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 18 hours 51 minutes ago.
16:54 <StickyNoob> yeah a few guys that have been in fort/sumo they are good so im just wondering if its regulars that are starting up a clan using new names
16:55 <Monkey_arma> #aka hero
16:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: ¿6779 noob` ~3 galaxy fag kick_me hero ksjhdjksghkjhqw {usa} one ~|ds|~_plag he's_back! who's_bad? laserbeams |pwncarnage pimp_mobile sex pie i'll_tkill_you please_k please_kick_me
16:55 <Monkey_arma> #aka ]Hero
16:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
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16:56 <Monkey_arma> #aka "]Hero"
16:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: I don't know anything about ']hero'!
16:57 <Lackadaisical> #aka Lackadaisical
16:57 <armabot> Lackadaisical: ¿27451 -b-_lckdscl lackadaisical 0:Lackadaisical@forums
17:00 <epsy> #aka 1000Grams
17:00 <armabot> epsy: ¿28272 si.1ooograms 1ooograms
17:00 <hoax> 1000grams of what lack?
17:00 <epsy> #aka 0:epsy@x
17:00 <armabot> epsy: ¿3796 pep|x|y 0:epsy@x
17:00 <epsy> it's some stupid cereals thingy
17:01 <hoax> lol ^^
17:01 <hoax> #ls hoax@x
17:01 <epsy> #aka 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
17:01 <armabot> hoax: timed out
17:01 <armabot> epsy: ¿29191 |x|flash 0:flashy@forums 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
17:01 <epsy> hoax, #ls -g
17:01 <epsy> O_O
17:01 <hoax> thats the 1
17:01 <epsy> hell, we share the same stats lol
17:02 <hoax> -g after or before
17:02 <hoax> #ls -g hoax@x
17:02 <armabot> hoax: I haven't seen anyone matching “hoax@x” yet, sorry.
17:02 <hoax> lol
17:02 <hoax> oh
17:04 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: and you don't know what irony means
17:05 <hoax> luke-jr* ?
17:05 <epsy> #ls -g Hoax@x
17:05 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “Hoax@x” yet, sorry.
17:06 <epsy> huh
17:06 <hoax> from when does it start
17:08 <epsy> ask wrtlprnft
17:09 <epsy> and i think he actually meant Lackadaisical :P
17:10 <hoax> hrm
17:10 <epsy> z-man, did you use an hacked arma to eliminate teams on score?
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17:10 <z-man> On elimination sumo? No.
17:10 <epsy> i don't see where it selects the team with the lowest score in eTeam::Enforce
17:11 <z-man> But a recent SVN/BZR version was required.
17:11 <z-man> It doesn't do that explicitly :)
17:11 <epsy> err?
17:11 <z-man> It just selects one team, and they're sorted so that this team is the lowest scoring team.
17:11 <epsy> oh
17:13 <epsy> also, how do i know which colorTeam is a random team? should i compare it/it's pointer to each one in sg_ColoredTeams?
17:20 <Lackadaisical> wrtlprnft: mm?
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17:35 <epsy> s/sg_Colo/se_Colo
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17:59 <Monkey_arma> right ive just got my other 128 meg stick
17:59 <Monkey_arma> just pus left :P
17:59 <Monkey_arma> *psu
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18:00 <akira_arma> 128...
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18:21 <Monkey_arma> ok xfroggy has a bug with his card..its making him move and even cross the line of def as if by magic...wtf
18:22 <madmax> is he selling it?
18:23 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: ?
18:23 <xfroggy> when I get enough money to get a new pc
18:23 <Lackadaisical> (05:05:27 PM) wrtlprnft: Lackadaisical: and you don't know what irony means
18:24 <wrtlprnft> err
18:24 <wrtlprnft> i meant luke-jr 
18:24 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: and you don't know what irony means
18:24 <wrtlprnft> sorry
18:24 <Monkey_arma> ye i often confuse luke and lack ??????
18:24 <Lackadaisical> ok.. np
18:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: gfy
18:26 <wrtlprnft> …
18:26 <Flex> w00ts going on
18:29 <Monkey_arma> #tea
18:29 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): .:] xfroggy, akira, CTxGonZaP, freako, Hamlet, Monkey (Monkey@x), Turbo
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21:38 <runemaste644> I dont see any sign of my server on the server list
21:39 <Monkey_arma> do you have TALK_TO_MASTER 1 in your server_info.cfg?
21:40 <Monkey_arma> runemaste644:
21:40 <runemaste644> i dont see server info.cfg but thats in settings_custom.cfg
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21:41 <runemaste644> where is server_info.cfg on linux x86
21:41 <Monkey_arma> well for a start really you should have only game settings in settings_custom.cfg
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21:41 <Monkey_arma> any server settings you *should* put in server_info.cfg
21:41 <Monkey_arma> you might have to make it yourself
21:42 <Monkey_arma> can you custom connect to your server?
21:42 <runemaste644> is /usr/local/etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated/ an appropriate place
21:42 <Monkey_arma> its the default i guess...seems ok
21:42 <runemaste644> i think i could at one point, that was a long time ago though
21:43 <Monkey_arma> what is the IP for you server?
21:43 <Monkey_arma> and what port is it on?
21:44 <runemaste644> 65.4.163.220:4534
21:45 <Monkey_arma> you need SERVER_PORT to be set also in your config file
21:45 <runemaste644> would talk to master, server dns and name, dedicated idle and client/server port all be server settings?
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21:45 <Lackadaisical> #tea
21:45 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Beerman |AoS|, Bishop, Hex, Longball|MBC, madmax, Sweeper, Tony Montana
21:46 <Monkey_arma> yes they would all be server settings
21:46 <Monkey_arma> so all would go in SERVER_INFO.cfg
21:46 <runemaste644> and include is a game setting, right?
21:46 <Monkey_arma> er...without caps
21:46 <Monkey_arma> includes are usually game settings ye
21:47 <Monkey_arma> ok and your server is up?
21:47 <Monkey_arma> your server is not responding
21:47 <Monkey_arma> i cant custom connect
21:48 <runemaste644> let me restart server real quick
21:49 <runemaste644> ok now try
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21:50 <runemaste644> i see 127.0.0.1 in list now
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21:51 <runemaste644> runemaste644.dyndns.org should work as well
21:52 <Monkey_arma> custom connect still not working
21:52 <runemaste644> Yay! i see revolution of chaos server on the list (my server name)
21:52 <Monkey_arma> does you IP change ever time you reboot?
21:53 <runemaste644> every time i unplug my dsl modem
21:53 <runemaste644> but, nevertheless, i have a dynamic IP
21:53 <Monkey_arma> because that IP you gave me does not work with custom connect
21:54 <runemaste644> try runemaste644.dyndns.org
21:55 <runemaste644> oh and the version is 0.2.8.2.1
21:56 <runemaste644> but if nobody but me can connect, what does that mean?
21:57 <epsy> that means you should either
21:57 <epsy> 1/ disable your firewall
21:57 <epsy> 2/ redirect your ports
21:57 <Monkey_arma> (router most likely)
21:57 <Monkey_arma> do you have a router?
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21:58 <runemaste644> yes
21:58 <Monkey_arma> aha
21:58 <Monkey_arma> good guess
21:58 <Monkey_arma> with a webmin interface no doubt
21:58 <runemaste644> yes
21:58 <epsy> haha
21:58 <Monkey_arma> ^^
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8492 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/eTeam.cpp):
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: epsy46: TEAM_ELIMINATION_MODE defines the way ArmagetronAd should eliminate
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: teams when there's more teams than TEAMS_MAX: Set to 0 it will try to keep as
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: many players as possible, kicking teams that have the lowest score if teams are
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: balanced; Set to 1 it will try to keep the best team colors (Team blue, then
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: Team gold, then Team red, etc); Set to 2 it will kick out the teams that have
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: the lowest score, regardless of balance. Copy-paste ftw.
21:59 <epsy> ..40 mins to get on svn..bah
22:00 <Monkey_arma> ok cant custom connect to that addres
22:00 <runemaste644> i think i did the port forwarding stuff a long time ago
22:00 <Monkey_arma> what is the value of SERVER_PORT in your config file?
22:00 <runemaste644> ill reboot server again
22:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, how does the error look like?
22:00 <epsy> timeout?
22:00 <runemaste644> yes
22:01 <Monkey_arma> "SERVER DOES NOT ANSWER"
22:01 <epsy> .."after ten seconds" ? :)
22:01 <runemaste644> i doubt this has anything to do with it but im running the server as root
22:01 <Monkey_arma> after about 10 yes
22:01 <Monkey_arma> ok well dont run as root btw
22:01 <Monkey_arma> for security
22:01 <epsy> runemaste644, that's bad but it should still work
22:02 <Monkey_arma> yes it should work
22:02 <Monkey_arma> what is the value of SERVER_PORT in your config file?
22:02 <epsy> resolveip: Unable to find hostid for 'runemaste644.dyndns.org': host not found
22:02 <runemaste644> 4534
22:02 <epsy> can't even resolve that address
22:03 <Monkey_arma> ok well i would check your router settings
22:03 <Monkey_arma> do you run a firewall or packet filter also?
22:03 <runemaste644> firestarter
22:04 <epsy> ..ah
22:04 <Monkey_arma> ok first thing is to disable firewall like epsy said
22:04 <epsy> ssecond thing is to get something that resolves
22:04 <runemaste644> firestarter is now disabled
22:04 <Monkey_arma> i guess your router is your packet filter anyway
22:04 <epsy> because runemaste644.dyndns.org doesn't
22:05 <Monkey_arma> doesnt the firewall/router setup affect whether or not resolution can take place (indirectly)
22:05 <epsy> no
22:05 <runemaste644> can i find my router webmin page thru network-admin?
22:05 <Monkey_arma> if he can fix firewall/router stuff then maybe dyndns.org will be able to communicate with his comp
22:06 <epsy> resolveip translates a DNS address into an IP
22:06 <epsy> maybe
22:06 <Monkey_arma> i would bet on router/firewall issus
22:06 <Monkey_arma> *issue
22:06 <epsy> i'm not sure, runemaste644, do you have a dynamic IP ?
22:06 <Monkey_arma> yes
22:06 <runemaste644> yes
22:06 <Monkey_arma> he uses dyndns
22:06 <epsy> so you're using dyndns to get something fixed
22:07 <epsy> Monkey_arma, i used to use dyndns, not for that kind of service, trough
22:07 <Monkey_arma> i cant see why it wouldnt work with arma
22:07 <Monkey_arma> i think he just needs to alter settings
22:07 <runemaste644> found webmin screen
22:07 <Monkey_arma> ok restart server  with firewall off
22:07 <Monkey_arma> ok do webmin first
22:08 <runemaste644> what do i do in the webmin screen
22:08 <runemaste644> (its a bellsouth router)
22:08 <Monkey_arma> is there no docs?
22:10 <runemaste644> if im trying to do the port forwarding stuff, i have done that
22:10 <epsy> http://portforward.com/
22:10 <runemaste644> yeah ive done that
22:10 <epsy> then the problem is the resolving of your IP
22:10 <runemaste644> which means...
22:10 <epsy> can you try a resolveip runemaste644.dyndns.org
22:11 <epsy> translating "runemaste644.dyndns.org" into an IP you can connect to
22:11 <runemaste644> you mean reverse DNS lookup?
22:11 <epsy> what dos that do?
22:11 <epsy> does*
22:12 <runemaste644> i mean dns lookup (no reverse
22:12 <epsy> i guess
22:12 <epsy> just type resolveip runemaste644.dyndns.org
22:13 <runemaste644> 208.69.32.132 (this might just be dyndns's IP)
22:13 <runemaste644> ill reboot server now
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22:13 <epsy> Monkey_arma, can you try?
22:14 <runemaste644> its done restarting
22:14 <Monkey_arma> epsy  you mean resolveip runemaste644.dyndns.org?
22:14 <epsy> yes
22:15 <Monkey_arma> no resolveip command
22:15 <Monkey_arma> i'll ping it
22:15 <epsy> must be in iptool
22:15 <epsy> must be in iptools
22:15 <Monkey_arma> ping: unknown host runemaste644.dyndns.org
22:15 <Monkey_arma> na
22:15 <Monkey_arma> wont resolve
22:16 <epsy> [ Searching for file(s) resolveip in *... ]
22:16 <epsy> dev-db/mysql-5.0.26-r2 (/usr/bin/resolveip)
22:16 <epsy> wtf?!
22:16 <Monkey_arma> haha
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22:17 <runemaste644> but if im the only one who can connect, what does that mean
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22:17 <Monkey_arma> you can connect to that address?
22:18 <Monkey_arma> wb flashyy
22:18 <runemaste644> well i can connect to 127.0.0.1
22:18 <flashyy> ty :)
22:18 <Monkey_arma> of course you can connect to 127.0.0.1
22:18 <Monkey_arma> that means localhost
22:18 <runemaste644> i know
22:18 <Monkey_arma> its the address of your computer
22:18 <Monkey_arma> but not via the internet
22:18 <Monkey_arma> all computers have a localhost of 127.0.0.1
22:19 <Monkey_arma> it just means "my computer"
22:19 <Monkey_arma> so you need a proper IP or address
22:20 <Monkey_arma> it looks like if you get dyndns working your server will work
22:20 <runemaste644> well i cant connect to my real ip (65.4.163.220)
22:20 <Monkey_arma> right exactly
22:20 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8493 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs): epsy46: UNLOCK_ALL_TEAMS
22:20 <Monkey_arma> you need to get dyndns working
22:23 <runemaste644> hold on
22:23 <epsy> 65.4.163.220 works fine
22:24 <runemaste644> now try dyndns
22:25 <Monkey_arma> PING 65.4.163.220 (65.4.163.220) 56(84) bytes of data.
22:25 <Monkey_arma> 64 bytes from 65.4.163.220: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=160 ms
22:25 <Monkey_arma> yep it does
22:26 <Monkey_arma> PING runemaste644.dyndns.org (65.4.163.220) 56(84) bytes of data.
22:26 <Monkey_arma> 64 bytes from adsl-4-163-220.gsp.bellsouth.net (65.4.163.220): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=167 ms
22:26 <Monkey_arma> ok you are back in business
22:26 <runemaste644> i see my dyndns in the menu but it doesnt work
22:27 <Monkey_arma> still cant connect to server
22:27 <runemaste644> console says nothing
22:27 <Monkey_arma> have you restarted server?
22:27 <runemaste644> yes
22:27 <runemaste644> i can restart it again
22:27 <runemaste644> if it helps
22:27 <Monkey_arma> wait a sec
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22:28 <Monkey_arma> try restarting
22:28 <Monkey_arma> then we will try other stuff
22:29 <runemaste644> its restarted
22:31 <runemaste644> i dont see it in the server browser
22:31 <Monkey_arma> still not connecting
22:31 <Monkey_arma> wait a sec
22:34 <Monkey_arma> What OS are you on?
22:34 <runemaste644> linux x86 on a core 2 duo 2.2ghz
22:35 <Monkey_arma>  32bit linux?
22:35 <runemaste644> yes
22:35 <Monkey_arma> do you have "DEDICATED_IDLE 1" in your config file?
22:36 <runemaste644> i have dedicated idle 0
22:36 <Monkey_arma> change to 1
22:36 <Monkey_arma> then restart server
22:36 <runemaste644> done.
22:37 <runemaste644> it might work now!
22:38 <runemaste644> i see the name but it says unreachable
22:38 <runemaste644> and gives the server does not answer error
22:39 <runemaste644> no activity in the shell
22:39 <Monkey_arma> right i would say reinstall the server from scratch. keep your config files that you need and scrap everything else
22:40 <runemaste644> ok
22:40 <runemaste644> do i put the config files in another directory or should they remain intact?
22:41 <Monkey_arma> you can move them to be safe but i dont think they will get overwritten
22:41 <Monkey_arma> i would move them then total uninstall and delete any files and folders left after uninstall
22:43 <runemaste644> shouldnt i be able to just download and install the latest server
22:50 <runemaste644> autopackage is a pain in the butt
22:53 <Monkey_arma> im sure you can yes
22:53 <Monkey_arma> if its .2.8.2.1 you want you can just download that
22:53 <Monkey_arma> what distro you on?
22:54 <runemaste644> ubuntu
22:55 <runemaste644> but autopackage wants the system password (my password) but it says its wrong
22:56 <xfroggy> what u trying to do?
22:56 <Monkey_arma> autopackage???
22:56 <Monkey_arma> just download the source
22:56 <Monkey_arma> and compile
22:56 <Monkey_arma> i can walk you through the steps
22:57 <Monkey_arma> the binary stuff is an arse so compiling source is way better
22:57 <xfroggy> autopackage takes less than 5 sec to install though :D
22:57 <Monkey_arma> on his computer it should take 3 mins to compile
22:58 <xfroggy> see how much time u can save lol
22:59 <Monkey_arma> well if he wants it to work :)
22:59 <xfroggy> lol thats a completely different question :D
23:00 <P4> gnight (http://albaani.org/sekavaa/tennis.jpg)
23:00 <xfroggy> lol ^^
23:04 <runemaste644> i dont see a tar.gz for the server
23:04 <Monkey_arma> the source is all one
23:04 <Monkey_arma> when you compile you choose whether server or client etc
23:04 <Monkey_arma> if you want to do autopackage then do it...if that dont work we can do source
23:04 <runemaste644> o
23:05 <Monkey_arma> i wouldnt touch autopackage with a barge pole
23:05 <Monkey_arma> giving system passwords etc pff
23:05 <akira_arma> #tea
23:05 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): Flex, JoeThePharmer, Lackadaisical, madmax, newbÎe, PHC:C-Monster, Root, solja kid, z3r0, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ liza (flash@x)
23:06 <xfroggy> lol
23:06 <xfroggy> autopackages installs everything into ~/ if u dont give system password :/
23:08 <runemaste644> says i need SDL
23:08 <runemaste644> obviously doesnt know i want the server
23:08 <xfroggy> did u specified it during ./configure?
23:09 <runemaste644> specify what?
23:09 <xfroggy> that u want server
23:09 <runemaste644> hoe
23:09 <xfroggy> hoe?
23:09 <runemaste644> how
23:09 <xfroggy> oh
23:09 <xfroggy> erm
23:09 <runemaste644> typo
23:09 <xfroggy> type
23:09 <xfroggy> ./configure --help
23:10 <runemaste644> theres nothing specific for the package
23:10 <xfroggy> 1 sec
23:11 <xfroggy> Monkey_arma, got lost lol
23:11 <Monkey_arma> runemaste644:  are you using autopackage or source?
23:11 <Monkey_arma> xfroggy: :)
23:11 <runemaste644> src
23:11 <Monkey_arma> ok i'll take you step by step dont rush ahead
23:11 <Monkey_arma> what have you typed?
23:12 <xfroggy> runemaste644,   --enable-glout          enable graphical output; otherwise, compile a
23:12 <xfroggy>                           dedicated server (default=enabled)
23:12 <runemaste644> ive gotten to the directory of the package and tried configure
23:12 <Monkey_arma> ok dont configure yet
23:12 <Monkey_arma> type ./configure --help
23:13 <Monkey_arma> that will be of use to you
23:13 <Monkey_arma> i'll tell you what you *need* from those options
23:13 <runemaste644> theres nothing package specific
23:13 <xfroggy> runemaste644, read Optional Features
23:14 <xfroggy> runemaste644, 3rd option under
23:14 <luke-jr> runemaste644: --disable-glout
23:14 <xfroggy> pff luke-jr
23:14 <xfroggy> we trying to make him understand :-/
23:15 <runemaste644> all i see is enable glout
23:15 <Monkey_arma> luke relax please
23:15 <luke-jr> runemaste644: ok, have fun being stupid
23:15 <epsy> ...
23:16 <luke-jr> lol
23:16 <xfroggy> luke-jr, I thought Christians are suppose to be nice
23:16 <luke-jr> xfroggy: honest, too
23:16 <xfroggy> lmfao
23:16 <Monkey_arma> ok runemaste644 you need to make sure these packages are installed in ubuntu
23:16 <runemaste644> ./configure --enable-glout doesnt work
23:16 <Monkey_arma> dont do it!
23:16 <runemaste644> i have sdl
23:16 <Monkey_arma> wait and listen
23:16 <luke-jr> LOL
23:16 <Monkey_arma> install these:
23:17 <xfroggy> man..this kid like skipped half the chat
23:17 <runemaste644> because i was fooling with autopackage
23:17  * luke-jr has a scroll bar
23:17 <xfroggy> runemaste644, u on ubuntu, starts listening
23:17 <xfroggy> *start
23:17 <Monkey_arma> libxml2-dev
23:17 <Monkey_arma> libsdl1.2-dev
23:17 <Monkey_arma> libsdl-image1.2-dev
23:17 <Monkey_arma> xlibmesa-gl-dev
23:17 <Monkey_arma> libboost-dev
23:17 <Monkey_arma> libogg-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsmpeg0
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsdl-mixer1.2
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libvorbisenc2
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libvorbis-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsmpeg-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> ftgl-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libglew-dev
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libglew1
23:18 <Monkey_arma> bison
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libc6
23:18 <runemaste644> in one line please
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libgcc1
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libglu1-xorg | libglu1
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libjpeg62
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsdl-image1.2
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libsdl1.2debian
23:18 <Monkey_arma> libstdc++6
23:18 <Monkey_arma> xlibmesa-gl | libgl1
23:18 <Monkey_arma> if all of those are installed we are ready to rock and roll
23:18 <Monkey_arma> the | means one or the other
23:18 <Monkey_arma> do you know aptitude?
23:18 <runemaste644> i use apt-get
23:19 <Monkey_arma> ok for a start use aptitude or they will get uninstalled at some point
23:19 <Monkey_arma> aptitude remembers which programs were manually installed
23:19 <xfroggy> Monkey_arma, btw lol
23:19 <xfroggy> aptitude blows
23:19 <Monkey_arma> its better than apt-get
23:19 <runemaste644> aptitude uninstalls some stuff for no reason
23:19 <Monkey_arma> not that i like debain
23:19 <xfroggy> i tried it once, it pulled half the damn kde desktop just to install k3b
23:19 <Monkey_arma> no no its your fault
23:19 <xfroggy> with apt-get only like 3-4 packages
23:19 <xfroggy> my fault?
23:20 <xfroggy> aptitude install k3b makes it my fault?
23:20 <Monkey_arma> you should have unmarked your autopackages and vice versa
23:20 <xfroggy> ...
23:20 <luke-jr> someone kick Monkey_arma for flooding
23:20 <Monkey_arma> someone kick luke for being himself
23:20 <luke-jr> runemaste644: aptitude doesn't uninstall stuff for no reason, it does it for good reason
23:20 <Monkey_arma> ok i will PM you runemaste644
23:20 <Monkey_arma> and paste it there
23:20 <xfroggy> runemaste644, sudo apt-get install armagetronad-dedicated
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23:20 <luke-jr> runemaste644: apt-get is too stupid to record that you WANT those things installed
23:21 <Monkey_arma> no froggy he must use aptitude
23:21 <xfroggy> lol
23:21 <Monkey_arma> or he will regret it later
23:21 <xfroggy> i regreted it already lol
23:21 <luke-jr> Debian should remove apt-get
23:21 <runemaste644> aptitude uninstalls stuff against my will
23:21 <runemaste644> apt-get doesnt
23:21 <xfroggy> idk personally aptitude pulled more garbage and half of it got left there
23:22 <Monkey_arma> rune and froggy you have to mark packages as manual
23:22 <xfroggy> apt-get autoclean & autoremove removed most of the deps for me compared to aptitude
23:22 <Monkey_arma> do this:
23:22 <xfroggy> wait
23:22 <xfroggy> u mean aptitude itself?
23:22 <Monkey_arma> waht?
23:23 <Monkey_arma> let me watch this penalty shoot out
23:23 <xfroggy> u using aptitude in cml or as a browser?
23:23 <Monkey_arma> i'll be back after
23:23 <luke-jr> runemaste644: no, apt-get just lies about your will
23:23 <Monkey_arma> aptitude is command line best
23:23 <luke-jr> if aptitude removes k3b, it's because your computer says you don't want k3b
23:24 <luke-jr> and aptitude says "wtf is it installed then?"
23:24 <luke-jr> and sees nobody needs it
23:24 <xfroggy> luke-jr, wait what?
23:24 <runemaste644> The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
23:24 <xfroggy> aptitude installed half the damn kde with k3b
23:24 <luke-jr> when apt-get installs stuff, it forgets to tell the system you want it
23:24 <Monkey_arma> correct
23:24 <Monkey_arma> we will sort it out in a bit
23:24 <xfroggy> by any chance debian & ubuntu apt-get different?
23:25 <luke-jr> so if you do
23:25 <luke-jr> apt-get install foobar
23:25 <Monkey_arma> 10 mins will be enough for penalties
23:25 <luke-jr> your system still doesn't know you want foobar
23:25 <runemaste644> ubuntu apt-get has super cow powers
23:25 <luke-jr> aptitude install foobar, however, installs it AND tells the system you want it
23:25 <runemaste644> apt-get moo
23:25 <epsy> You have unused icons on your desktop.
23:25 <luke-jr> then when aptitude (or anything else) goes and sees why foobar is installed, they see "oh, my boss wants it"
23:26 <luke-jr> and leaves it alone
23:26 <xfroggy> hrm
23:26 <runemaste644> aptitude uninstall 50 packages for no reason
23:26 <luke-jr> runemaste644: because the system says those 50 packages are not used
23:27 <xfroggy> hrm whats a good package to try
23:27 <runemaste644> as in never used or not recently used
23:27 <luke-jr> runemaste644: as in not currently
23:27 <luke-jr> as in, nobody says they want it there
23:27 <luke-jr> aptitude will leave stuff alone if somebody wants it
23:28 <runemaste644> so i can do aptitude reinstall packages and itll leave them alone
23:28 <luke-jr> but if it's not on your "list of packages I want", nor any of those package's "list of things I need", nobody needs it
23:28 <luke-jr> runemaste644: sure
23:28 <luke-jr> it'll just add them to your "list of packages I want" so it knows they're needed
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23:30 <runemaste644> well i still dont trust aptitude
23:30 <luke-jr> f u too
23:30 <Monkey_arma> you are wrong
23:30 <Monkey_arma> you just need to tell aptitude which packages from your apt-get days you want to keep
23:30 <luke-jr> runemaste644: you really shouldn't be compiling source code
23:30  * Monkey_arma agrees
23:31 <luke-jr> you've got about 2 years more learning before you get to that point
23:31 <runemaste644> i only use apt-get or graphical package managers
23:31 <Monkey_arma> ok runemaste644 use autopackage
23:31 <xfroggy> luke-jr, why 2 years of learning?
23:31 <runemaste644> i ve known how to compile source ever since i switched to linux
23:32 <luke-jr> xfroggy: cuz he's stubborn
23:32 <xfroggy> LOL
23:32 <luke-jr> xfroggy: otherwise it might only be a few months
23:33 <runemaste644> and if anyone here is stubborn its luke jr
23:33 <Monkey_arma> haha
23:33 <luke-jr> runemaste644: you're the retard refusing to do things rihgt
23:34 <Monkey_arma> runemaster...you are going to need to do aptitude for the dependencies on armagetron even if you use autopackage i think
23:34 <Monkey_arma> i dont use autopackage so im not sure
23:34 <runemaste644> i dont use autopackage
23:34 <runemaste644> i just tried it
23:34 <xfroggy> man
23:34 <runemaste644> and its crap
23:34 <Monkey_arma> ok well lets get your system sorted out with aptitude
23:35 <xfroggy> do u even listen runemaste644 what we been talking for the last few minutes? lol
23:35 <luke-jr> runemaste644: just like you?
23:35 <Monkey_arma> its ok he's listening
23:35 <runemaste644> someone kick luke-jr
23:35 <xfroggy> LOL
23:35 <xfroggy> hahahahahaha
23:35 <xfroggy> yea he's listening alright
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23:36 <runemaste644> on second thought ill just /ignore
23:36 <xfroggy> wow
23:36 <xfroggy> so much for trying to help out, huh? luke-jr lol
23:38 <runemaste644> ok luke talk all u want i cant see what ur saying
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23:40 <runemaste644> ok so whats the aptitude stuff i need to do
23:41 <Monkey_arma> how well do you know apt-get?
23:41 <runemaste644> i can do all the basic installing and uninstalling
23:41 <Flex> Monkey_arma,
23:42 <runemaste644> and i can use the super cow powers
23:42 <Monkey_arma> yes flex?
23:46 <runemaste644> well what do i do
23:51 <Monkey_arma> well
23:51 <Monkey_arma> 2 options
23:51 <runemaste644> option 1?
23:52 <Monkey_arma> 1) find all packages on system and mark the ones you want to be kept *no matter what* as "manual" or "noauto"
23:52 <runemaste644> how
23:52 <Monkey_arma> 2) reinstall the packages you want to keep, with aptitude and it will mark them for you
23:52 <runemaste644> i want to keep them all
23:53 <Monkey_arma> yes but thats not what i mean
23:54 <Monkey_arma> if you mark packages as manual/noauto it means that even if nothing depends on them...if you remove stuff later on....you still keep them on your system
23:54 <runemaste644> cool aptitude allows mouse use
23:54 <runemaste644> *and* it has minesweeper!
23:54 <Monkey_arma> we want the command line not that mode!
23:54 <Monkey_arma> so:
23:55 <Monkey_arma> aptitude search .* | grep -E '^i'
23:55 <FoFoLiNo> monk plz :)
23:55 <Monkey_arma> that will show you what are installed
23:56 <xfroggy> Monkey_arma, lets go :)))
23:56 <runemaste644> may i finish playing minesweeper first? :P
23:56 <xfroggy> yes sure
23:56 <xfroggy> go wild
23:56 <hoax> Monkey_arma we starting get ur arse to the serv
23:56 <Monkey_arma> you need to mark the ones in that list that you always want keep even if they arent needed as "noauto"
23:56 <Monkey_arma> ok i gtg now
23:56 <Monkey_arma> so do that
23:56 <Monkey_arma> or you can just reinstall all of those packages
23:56 <Monkey_arma> that is easier
23:57 <Monkey_arma> so just do "aptitude reinstall ... ... ... ... ... ...etc"
23:57 <Monkey_arma> where each package name is one that you have on your system that you want to keep no matter about dependencies
23:59 <runemaste644> is the ^i a control+i?

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00:00 <Monkey_arma> no the ^ means beginning of line
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00:02 <Monkey_arma> so in that command , ^i means any line with an i as the first character
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01:34 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/tron-hq-df-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
01:56 <hoax> #ls fofo
01:56 <armabot> hoax: |x| FoFo has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 1 minute ago.
01:57 <ct|kyle> hoax: tuesday you were supposed to go on #firefox and type DCC_SEND FIREFOX_FIREWORKS
01:57 <xfroggy> :D
01:57 <hoax> hahaha
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01:58 <ct|kyle> 400+ users
01:58 <hoax> why u think there site was down in the evening ;)
01:58 <hoax> thier* ffs
01:59 <xfroggy> lol hoax
01:59 <hoax> xD
01:59 <xfroggy> its because they were getting 17,000 visitors checking for a new version a minute I believe
01:59 <hoax> haha jeez
01:59  * hoax was one of them
01:59  * hoax needed a beowser
01:59 <xfroggy> or was it 17,000 copies a minute they were transferring
02:00 <xfroggy> haha #firefox was fun
02:00 <ct|kyle> the secound
02:00 <ct|kyle> ya
02:00 <xfroggy> then it was something close to that about checking lol
02:00 <xfroggy> i forgot
02:00 <xfroggy> haha
02:01 <xfroggy> my buddy decided not to help it, because he won't get any credit...
02:01 <xfroggy> lol
02:01 <ct|kyle> now only 885 downloads per minute
02:01 <hoax> didnt about 8mil get downloaded in the end?
02:01 <ct|kyle> 14.5 it is up to now
02:01 <xfroggy> yea in 24 hours
02:01 <ct|kyle> 8 mill in day 1
02:01 <hoax> its good was using the beta in ubuntu
02:02 <xfroggy> i wonder who is going to set the record of the most data transfered
02:02 <hoax> duno about add-on compatabilities though
02:02  * xfroggy remembers when ubuntu 8.04 came out
02:03  * ct|kyle remembers KDE4
02:03 <xfroggy> Oo
02:03 <xfroggy> i dont remember anythign special that day
02:04 <xfroggy> well
02:04 <ct|kyle> i remember the gentoo devels being true devils
02:04 <xfroggy> tron can set a record as well
02:04 <xfroggy> the most longest version.....lol
02:04 <ct|kyle> lol
02:06 <hoax> wonder if 2.3 will be out before the devs give up the ghost
02:07 <hoax> 0.2.8 3 w/e
02:08 <hoax> a few moar wines & luci will pop
02:09 <Monkey_arma> to be fair to them, .2.8.3 is not far off
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02:09 <Monkey_arma> and i see now that they arent ready to make some features stable till they are truly tested
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02:13 <xfroggy> lol
02:13 <xfroggy> man
02:13 <xfroggy> im amazed @ MPAA
02:15 <Monkey_arma> oh multiplayer arma?
02:15 <xfroggy> no
02:15 <xfroggy> lol
02:15 <xfroggy> haha
02:15 <xfroggy> read this
02:15 <xfroggy> The Motion Picture Association of America said  Friday intellectual-property holders should have the right to collect damages, perhaps as much as $150,000 per copyright violation, without having to prove infringement.
02:15 <xfroggy> :D
02:16 <Monkey_arma> ah yes they are insane and they have been shitting themselves ever since torrents etc
02:16 <xfroggy> who says big corporations can't play God? lol
02:16 <xfroggy> lmao evidence is optional I love this
02:20 <Monkey_arma> omg i get more fps with certain 3d effects on WTF
02:20 <Monkey_arma> maybe same
02:20 <xfroggy> i still dont get how u play tron lol
02:21 <Monkey_arma> its hard
02:21 <Monkey_arma> but that era is almost over
02:21 <xfroggy> i wonder how much u gonna love tron when u get decent res & video card
02:22 <Monkey_arma> even more :)
02:22 <xfroggy> :D
02:22 <Monkey_arma> well at first not great video card..just builtin
02:22 <Monkey_arma> but then i will hunt for cheap and good card
02:22 <xfroggy> damn
02:22 <xfroggy> i need to get a job
02:22 <Monkey_arma> :(
02:23 <xfroggy> i want to get dual core so badly
02:23 <Monkey_arma> waste of money at the moment
02:23 <xfroggy> still want it lol
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04:35 <Lucifer> wine?  someone said wine?
04:37 <akira_arma> ..
04:37 <akira_arma> still waiting..
05:30 <Lucifer> that's because I drank the rest of that batch, so you're waiting for the strawberry now
05:52 <akira_arma> send already!
07:01 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma a bottle of unfinished wine
07:01 <armabot> I have sent a bottle of unfinished wine to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
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08:23 <akira_arma> i dont understand my isp
08:24 <akira_arma> i have a traffic limit for 100% speed of 50GB
08:24 <akira_arma> i exceeded it and still have 100%...
08:24 <akira_arma> O.o
08:24 <akira_arma> weird
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17:15 <runemaste645> im back
17:16 <runemaste645> autopackage worked, im gonna copy the config files now
17:18 <runemaste645> oops, i lost the files, ill retype them
17:18 <Monkey_arma> hi runemaste645
17:18 <runemaste645> hi
17:19 <Monkey_arma> ok good luck with it...often a reinstall does the trick
17:23 <runemaste645> what are the necessary otpions
17:23 <runemaste645> in server info
17:29 <runemaste645> Monkey_arma: should talk to master dedicated idle and server name be all i need for server info.cfg
17:37 <runemaste645> can anyone help me set my server up
17:37 <epsy> most probably that's all you need in server_info.cfg
17:37 <epsy> at best you would only keep physics-related settings in settings_custom.cfg
17:47 <runemaste645> could u tell me if u see this server is testing in the list
17:47 <epsy> what's it's name ?
17:48 <runemaste645> this server is testing
17:48 <runemaste645> thats the name
17:48 <epsy> oh, heh
17:48 <epsy> #ls -v testing
17:48 <armabot> epsy: timed out
17:48 <epsy> #sd -v testing
17:48 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “testing” at the moment, sorry.
17:49 <runemaste645> #sd -v Testing!
17:49 <armabot> runemaste645: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “testing!” at the moment, sorry.
17:49 <epsy> there's indeed no server called Testing
17:49 <epsy> IP/port?
17:49 <runemaste645> runemaste644.dyndns.org
17:50 <epsy> port?
17:50 <epsy> 4534?
17:50 <runemaste645> yes
17:50 <runemaste645> default port
17:51 <epsy> doesn4t resolve..again
17:51 <StickyNoob> thats 65.4.163.220
17:51 <runemaste645> 65.4.163.220
17:51 <runemaste645> yes
17:52 <epsy> whoops, it actually resolved, but it timed out
17:52 <epsy> both with dns and ip
17:52 <StickyNoob> yeah i cant connect either
17:52 <runemaste645> what do i do to fix that
17:52 <StickyNoob> firewall?
17:53 <StickyNoob> can you connect to it localy?
17:53 <runemaste645> port 4534 is open
17:53 <runemaste645> yes i can connect locally
17:53 <epsy> do you have any other computer in your network?
17:53 <runemaste645> try port 4535
17:53 <epsy> same thing
17:54 <runemaste645> it doesnt resolve?
17:54 <epsy> timeout
17:55 <runemaste645> try now
17:55 <epsy> tried on 4535 timeout too
17:56 <epsy> same for 4534
17:56 <runemaste645> now try
17:57 <StickyNoob> nope
17:57 <epsy> same
17:57 <runemaste645> what can i do to fix it
17:57 <StickyNoob> i recon fire wall
17:57 <StickyNoob> are you behind a router?
17:57 <runemaste645> i disabled firestarter
17:58 <runemaste645> yes
17:58 <StickyNoob> hehe
17:58 <StickyNoob> have you forwarded the port?
17:58 <epsy> ..on both TCP and UDP?
17:58 <runemaste645> but its an old one with no webmin/firewall/etc
17:58 <StickyNoob> bingo
17:58 <runemaste645> i forwarded ports on modem
17:59 <epsy> is there anything that lets you configure it
17:59 <epsy> both UDP and TCP?
17:59 <StickyNoob> your modem and router are seperate?
17:59 <runemaste645> i could try portorward for wifi router
17:59 <runemaste645> and yes
17:59 <runemaste645> seperate
17:59 <epsy> so you have two routers?
17:59 <StickyNoob> ok yeah you will need to forward on both
18:00 <StickyNoob> actualy im not sure
18:00 <StickyNoob> may just need to forward on router only
18:00 <hoax> #tea
18:00 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:00 <hoax> #si o.s
18:00 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (7/16): -:x.T.c:-, <T¤$afari$Kater, Concord, CT_emphasis (emphasis@crazy-tronners.com), Dude, JS, Obamania
18:01 <epsy> anyway if not both need forwarding, the router needs it
18:01 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: what model router is it?
18:01 <hoax> #ls epsy
18:01 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦epsy has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 12 minutes ago.
18:01 <runemaste645> its like this internet>modem>hub>router>server
18:01 <epsy> #ls hoax
18:01 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 16 hours 11 minutes ago.
18:01 <runemaste645> its a belkin router
18:01 <hoax> :D
18:01 <epsy> :|
18:01 <hoax> |:
18:01 <runemaste645>   F5D8231-4 v3000
18:01 <StickyNoob> a belkin router without a web interface?
18:02 <runemaste645> it has webmin
18:02 <hoax> gotta love routers
18:02 <hoax> oh no wait
18:02 <runemaste645> the hub has no webmin interface
18:02 <StickyNoob> hub?
18:02 <epsy> hub is something else
18:03 <epsy> StickyNoob, the thing that connects more eth ports to one
18:03 <runemaste645> it says its a hub
18:03 <StickyNoob> oh right, that sort of hub
18:03 <StickyNoob> yeah hub dosent matter
18:03 <epsy>  ---[ Router ]---[ Hub ]<===more lines
18:03 <epsy> :)
18:03 <runemaste645> but how do i port forward on the router
18:04 <epsy> webmin ?
18:04 <StickyNoob> open the webmin interface
18:04 <runemaste645> already there
18:04 <StickyNoob> is there anything saying "port forwarding"
18:04 <runemaste645> not on home page
18:04 <StickyNoob> yeah look around
18:05 <runemaste645> im using wlan btw
18:05 <StickyNoob> dosent matter
18:05 <StickyNoob> except your players will be really lagged
18:06 <runemaste645> its wireless n so its incredibly fast
18:06  * StickyNoob is sceptical
18:06 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D8231-4/Spliter_Cell_Chaos_Theory.htm
18:07 <StickyNoob> thats how to port forward for Splinter cell, you will need to change the stuff in there for arma
18:07 <epsy> is it my browser that bugged or..?
18:08 <Monkey_arma> its stickys typing
18:08 <epsy> Monkey_arma, next time click the link
18:09 <hoax> works fine for me
18:09 <epsy> before being OT :o)
18:09 <epsy> hoax, scroll down
18:09 <Monkey_arma> ok  i do apologise its whatever retard cant spell and made that link's fault
18:10 <hoax> yeah what it looks fine lol
18:10 <Monkey_arma> its their fault that so many fucking things are spelt wrong in the world
18:10 <StickyNoob> spelling is overated
18:11 <hoax> except i dont see how entering a port will change a bunch of pictures lmao
18:11 <Monkey_arma> Its fucking SPLINTER CELL retard site
18:11 <StickyNoob> calm down
18:11 <hoax> aint they a good series of games
18:12 <StickyNoob> anyway
18:12 <Monkey_arma> NO I WONT CALM DOWN AND BY THE WAY IM ONLY JOKING EVEN IF IM WRITING IN CAPS LOCK
18:12 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: how you getting on?
18:12 <Flex> I wanna talk to the mayor, to the governor, to the motherfucking president
18:12 <hoax> aparently really hard but actually piss
18:12 <epsy> LOL WUT
18:12 <runemaste645> now try
18:12 <hoax> haha here we go..
18:12 <Monkey_arma> fucking flex sort them out GO on son
18:12 <hoax> lol!
18:12 <Flex> I wanna talk to the FBI, and the CIA, and the motherfuckin congressman
18:13 <epsy> ..he wants fried chicken
18:13 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: nope
18:13 <hoax> mmm spam topic rape
18:13 <Monkey_arma> mm mm mmm friiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied chickun
18:14 <Flex> hmm fried chicken! want you in my kitchen!
18:14 <hoax> from a properly franchised outlet!
18:14 <runemaste645> one more time
18:14 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: nope
18:15 <runemaste645> anything else?
18:15 <Flex> don't know what part of you i love best, your legs or your breast
18:15 <epsy> X_x
18:15 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: are you sure you did the port forwarding correct?
18:16 <runemaste645> what should the correct params be
18:16 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: what is the ip address for your router on the local network? ie 192.168.0.1
18:16 <runemaste645> 192.168.2.2
18:17 <Monkey_arma> runemaste645: wireless incredibly fast?....
18:17 <StickyNoob> ok in arma try a custom connect to 192.168.2.2 on port 4534
18:17 <Monkey_arma> pings will be inconsistent
18:17 <runemaste645> wireless n
18:17 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: dont divert the conversation
18:17 <Flex> yeah, you terroriest
18:17 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: in arma try a custom connect to 192.168.2.2 on port 4534
18:17 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob: I'll start believing in GOD if you don't behave
18:18 <Flex> ahha
18:18 <hoax> LOL
18:18 <runemaste645> no
18:18 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: ok that means th forwarding isnt working
18:18 <hoax> you believe in me anyway monky
18:18 <Monkey_arma> er....
18:18 <Flex> Monkey_arma wants to believeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:18 <Flex> here, wash your face with this!
18:18 <runemaste645> perhaps on the modem
18:18 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: whats the ip address of the server on the network?
18:19 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: no its the router
18:19 <runemaste645> what, the local IP?
18:19 <StickyNoob> yeah
18:20 <runemaste645> 192.168.2.2
18:20 <StickyNoob> that was the router ip
18:20 <epsy> LOL
18:20 <epsy> whoops caps
18:20 <epsy> ^^
18:20 <runemaste645> no 2.1 is router
18:21 <hoax> runemaste645 you play runescape
18:21 <runemaste645> not anymore
18:21 <epsy> heh
18:21 <hoax> haha...moved up to arma ay
18:21 <StickyNoob> so you tried a custom connect directly to 192.168.2.2 and it didnt work? even tho that is the servers local ip?
18:22 <hoax> epsy plays runescape, you two couldve hooked up
18:22 <runemaste645> ya
18:22 <epsy> do i?
18:22 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: check that ip address again, and the firewall
18:22 <hoax> no ones juding you epsy it ok
18:22 <hoax> we're all friends here
18:22 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: if the server is running correctly that connect should work
18:23 <runemaste645> it doesnt error
18:23 <runemaste645> when i do 127.0.0.1:4535 it works
18:23 <hoax> StickyNoob u worked on your game more yet
18:23 <StickyNoob> hoax: a bir
18:23 <hoax> gd gd
18:23 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: how about 192.168.2.2:4535?
18:24 <hoax> #ls infamous
18:24 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦ Infamous has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 5 hours 32 minutes ago.
18:24 <runemaste645> no
18:24 <StickyNoob> i dont believe that 192.168.2.2 is your ip address then
18:24 <runemaste645> #ls Lin32
18:24 <armabot> runemaste645: Lin32 has last been seen on  Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= 21 hours 38 minutes ago.
18:24 <runemaste645> :(
18:24 <xfroggy> i just saw that yogurt guy
18:25 <runemaste645> i thought it would suddenly reveal my server
18:25 <epsy> #ls -g epsy@x
18:25 <hoax> x'yy
18:25 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@x” yet, sorry.
18:25 <epsy> wow
18:25 <hoax> how would you not know what your ip is
18:25 <xfroggy> hoax'y :D
18:25 <epsy> #ls -g z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
18:25 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz” yet, sorry.
18:25 <StickyNoob> hoax: if your using dhcp
18:25  * epsy needs a new stupid GID anyways
18:26 <hoax> :P
18:26 <Monkey_arma> runemaste645: are you on ADSL or cable?
18:26 <epsy> Technology.
18:26 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: that dosent matter
18:26 <runemaste645> adsl
18:27 <Monkey_arma> im just interested
18:27 <hoax> monkey you pedo!
18:27 <Monkey_arma> i would recommend you dont use wireless router for server
18:27 <epsy> #ls -g Infamous@x
18:27 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦ Infamous has last been seen on ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server 5 hours 36 minutes ago.
18:27 <hoax> StickyNoob saw him first...
18:27 <runemaste645> well my ethernet is being cranky this morning
18:27 <runemaste645> im lucky i have wifi working
18:28 <hoax> #ls -g epsy@imgay&ihidemygid
18:28 <armabot> hoax: I haven't seen anyone matching “epsy@imgay” yet, sorry.
18:28 <Monkey_arma> ive never heard of cranky ethernet
18:28 <epsy> #ls -g Monkey@x
18:28 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 hour 9 minutes ago.
18:28 <epsy> #ls -g \:*()
18:28 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “\\:*()” yet, sorry.
18:28 <Monkey_arma> #ls rumplestiltskin
18:28 <epsy> #ls -g\:*()
18:28 <epsy> #ls -g :*()
18:28 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
18:28 <hoax> who is rumple?
18:28 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: well if you want port forwarding you need to find out what your servers ip address is on the local network
18:28 <Monkey_arma> dunno
18:28 <armabot> epsy: timed out
18:28 <armabot> epsy: I haven't seen anyone matching “:*()” yet, sorry.
18:28 <hoax> not bad for an american
18:29 <runemaste645> #ls their_outfits
18:29 <armabot> runemaste645: timed out
18:30 <runemaste645> #ls their_outfits
18:30 <armabot> runemaste645: timed out
18:30 <runemaste645> o rly?
18:31 <luke-jr> :O
18:31 <luke-jr> setcontext/getcontext is sweet
18:31 <epsy> #google setcontext
18:31 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.25 seconds: setcontext - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setcontext>; setcontext (2): get/set user context - Linux man page: <http://linux.die.net/man/2/setcontext>; setcontext: <http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908775/xsh/setcontext.html>; getcontext: <http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/getcontext.html>; (3 more messages)
18:33 <runemaste645> 192.168.2.2 is my local IP and 192.168.2.1 is the router
18:33 <StickyNoob> how are you figureing that out?
18:34 <runemaste645> networking tools in linux
18:34 <StickyNoob> so can you ping 192.168.2.2
18:35 <runemaste645> PING 192.168.2.2 (192.168.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
18:35 <runemaste645> 64 bytes from 192.168.2.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.066 ms
18:35 <runemaste645> yes
18:36 <StickyNoob> i dont understand how 127.0.0.1:4534 can work but 192.268.2.2:4534 cant
18:36 <luke-jr> epsy: sweet, isn't it?
18:36 <runemaste645> it only works thru server list
18:36 <epsy> didn't really read it, i'm busy
18:37 <luke-jr> lol
18:37 <runemaste645> direct connect wont work
18:37 <luke-jr> epsy: it lets you store the stack in memory for later
18:37 <epsy> ah
18:37 <luke-jr> so you can return getcontext()
18:37 <luke-jr> and save that somewhere
18:37 <luke-jr> then later setcontext() back to it
18:37 <runemaste645> can someone check master server logs?
18:37 <epsy> so you don't need gdb?
18:38 <luke-jr> or swapcontext() ☺
18:38 <luke-jr> so you don't need to remember the details of what you were doing :þ
18:38 <epsy> heh
18:38 <luke-jr> if you're waiting for input, save your stack for the select loop
18:38 <luke-jr> then swap to it
18:38 <luke-jr> select loop waits for data, then swaps to the stack associated with it
18:39 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: did you try using custom connect and use 127.0.0.1:4534
18:39 <luke-jr> all single threaded
18:39 <luke-jr> and can probably be made multi-threaded on demand easily
18:39 <runemaste645> ya it didnt work
18:39 <epsy> yeha, then you can 'pause' your threads :-P
18:40 <StickyNoob> ok they you are not running a server on that computer
18:40 <luke-jr> well, they're not threads, that's the point
18:40 <StickyNoob> *then
18:40 <luke-jr> they'll run until they're done doing what they need to do
18:40 <luke-jr> so it happens ASAP
18:40 <luke-jr> then the next one does the same
18:40 <runemaste645> will a working server be worth the effort
18:40 <luke-jr> runemaste645: not for you
18:40 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: is there another computer on your network running a server?
18:41 <runemaste645> no
18:41 <runemaste645> luke jr nobody asked you
18:41 <StickyNoob> you using a different prot?
18:41 <StickyNoob> *port?
18:41 <runemaste645> no
18:42 <runemaste645> luke jr: if youre gonna help then help. If you arent then shut up
18:42 <StickyNoob> shut down your server then look at the lan list again, is it still there?
18:43 <runemaste645> yes
18:43 <StickyNoob> heh
18:43 <StickyNoob> so even after you have sut down your server and then refreshed the lan list the server is still in the list?
18:44 <Monkey_arma> right cu guys wednesday/thursday
18:44 <StickyNoob> cya
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18:44 <runemaste645> now i just see localhost on 4535
18:45 <StickyNoob> i think you have multiple servers running
18:45 <runemaste645> what does that mean
18:45 <runemaste645> scfratch that
18:45 <runemaste645> *scratch
18:46 <runemaste645> no i have no consoles with any sign of arma server in them
18:46 <StickyNoob> could be in the background
18:47 <runemaste645> process table has no sign either
18:47 <StickyNoob> do "ps -A | grep arma"
18:47 <runemaste645> 15905 ?        00:14:40 armagetronad
18:48 <StickyNoob> well somethings running then
18:48 <StickyNoob> may not be a server, but something
18:49 <runemaste645> maybe its a ghost image of the server
18:49 <StickyNoob> ghost?
18:49 <runemaste645> a process that claims to be running but is rather doing nothing
18:50 <StickyNoob> well kill it then
18:50 <runemaste645> on the master server
18:51 <StickyNoob> basically i want to make sure there are defiantely no servers running anywhere on your network so you can start from scratch
18:52 <StickyNoob> since at the moment you are seeing servers that you dont know where they are running and on what port
18:53 <runemaste645> sorry, no zombie processes on this box
18:54 <runemaste645> there are no servers running
18:54 <StickyNoob> so are you at the point where you can look at the lan list in arma and see no games listed?
18:54 <runemaste645> lan list?
18:55 <runemaste645> i was looking in the internet list!
18:55 <StickyNoob> err
18:55 <StickyNoob> dont
18:55 <runemaste645> and yes i see no lan games
18:55 <StickyNoob> good
18:55 <StickyNoob> start up your server
18:56 <StickyNoob> it should have a line like in the messages "[0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534."
18:56 <runemaste645> i see it at the end
18:56 <StickyNoob> whats the port?
18:56 <runemaste645> 4534
18:57 <StickyNoob> ok
18:57 <StickyNoob> now try a custom connect to 127.0.0.1
18:57 <runemaste645> it works!!!
18:57 <StickyNoob> good
18:57 <StickyNoob> now custom connect to 192.168.2.2
18:58 <runemaste645> yes!
18:58 <StickyNoob> good now 192.168.2.1
18:58 <runemaste645> thats my router
18:58 <StickyNoob> yup
18:59 <runemaste645> and should it fail
18:59 <StickyNoob> no it should work if you set the forwarding correct
18:59 <runemaste645> well i obviousy didnt
19:00 <runemaste645> 2.1 doesnt work
19:01 <runemaste645> now what?
19:01 <StickyNoob> ok the forwarding line should be: enabled: true. inbound port: 4534-4534. type; tcp. private ip address: 192.168.2.2. private port:4534-4534
19:02 <StickyNoob> then another one with the type as udp not tcp
19:02 <StickyNoob> otherwise identical to the first one
19:02 <runemaste645> and restart server?
19:02 <runemaste645> or should it be fine
19:02 <StickyNoob> naa just apply the changes
19:03 <runemaste645> ok
19:03 <StickyNoob> try connecting to 192.168.2.1 again
19:03 <Flex> is uPnP enabled?
19:04 <runemaste645> what is upnp
19:05 <runemaste645> and i dont think so
19:06 <runemaste645> seriously what is uPnP flex
19:07 <Flex> i haven't been reading what you guys been talking about so i don't know if it's relevent, but it seems like you're both talking about ports and stuff
19:07 <Flex> and uPnP helps with auto porting for games and such
19:07 <Flex> Google search it for more info
19:08 <runemaste645> how do i find out if its enabled on my router
19:08 <Flex> look around in your router settings for uPnP and enable it, also make sure it's refresh rate is less then 30minutes or something
19:10 <Flex> if you can't seem to find it, it's probably not supported on your router, check the manual to make sure
19:10 <madmax> doesn't PnP depend on the application requesting it?
19:10 <Flex> yeah kinda
19:11 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: yeah dont bother with it
19:11 <runemaste645> my router has it but i cant find it
19:13 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: can you custom connect to 192.168.2.1 yet?
19:14 <runemaste645> no
19:14 <madmax> I guess it's been discussed to add support for it: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=4611
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19:15 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: hmm still having port forwarding problems then
19:17 <runemaste645> ya
19:18 <StickyNoob> can you screen shot your port forwarding page and post it on http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
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19:22 <runemaste645> i found the upnp stuff and enabled it!
19:24 <runemaste645> can you see this text
19:24 <StickyNoob> yes
19:25 <runemaste645> ok its just i had to restart the router
19:25 <runemaste645> to enable upnp
19:28 <runemaste645> and it doesnt work
19:28 <StickyNoob> can you screen shot your port forwarding page and post it on http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
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19:32 <runemaste645> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7713/forwardngpn2.png
19:33 <runemaste645> it doesnt matter if i use imageshack, does it?
19:33 <StickyNoob> hmm looks ok
19:34 <runemaste645> what makes it look ok and not perfect
19:34 <StickyNoob> no it does look correct
19:35 <StickyNoob> hmm you should be able to custom connect to 192.168.2.2:4534
19:35 <runemaste645> i can
19:35 <StickyNoob> 2.1 even
19:36 <StickyNoob> 192.168.2.1:4534
19:36 <runemaste645> may i try rebooting the server?
19:36 <StickyNoob> wont make any difference
19:39 <runemaste645> custom connect doesnt work
19:39 <runemaste645> for 2.1
19:39 <StickyNoob> hmm im stumped then
19:40 <runemaste645> well the problem could be in the config files
19:41 <StickyNoob> doubtfull if 192.168.2.2 works
19:41 <runemaste645> which it does
19:41 <runemaste645> 2.2 works
19:43 <runemaste645> maybe the problem lies elsewhere
19:43 <runemaste645> i suspect server info.cfg
19:44 <StickyNoob> why?
19:45 <runemaste645> because config files make a big difference
19:46 <runemaste645> but what else is there to try
19:47 <StickyNoob> im out of ideas
19:49 <runemaste645> it could be my routers firewall suspecting armagetron for ip spoofing
19:49 <runemaste645> or a dyndns thing
19:49 <StickyNoob> its not dyndns
19:49 <StickyNoob> does your router have firewall?
19:49 <runemaste645> yes
19:49 <Flex> turn it off y'all
19:50 <StickyNoob> yeah
19:50 <runemaste645> it works for connon attacks from black hat hackers
19:50 <Flex> lol
19:50 <runemaste645> it cant be disabled but u can disable certain parts
19:50 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: did you read some bizzare guide to internet lino
19:50 <Flex> and why are black hat hackers attacking you?
19:50 <StickyNoob> *lingo
19:50 <runemaste645> they arent, its a just incase thing
19:51 <Flex> lol
19:51 <Flex> that firewall isn't going to stop any serious hacker..
19:51 <Flex> only script kiddies
19:51 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: are there any windows machines on the other side of the router?
19:51 <StickyNoob> script kiddies??? would you all stop with this nonsense
19:51 <Flex> StickyNoob, and Linux is going to have an easier time
19:51 <runemaste645> none are on
19:52 <runemaste645> but they exist
19:52 <Flex> StickyNoob, what's the correct term for a script kiddie then?
19:52 <runemaste645> on my network
19:52 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: take the firewall off quickly just to test
19:52 <StickyNoob> its not like it is doing much anyway
19:53 <StickyNoob> Flex: that depends, what is a script kiddie?
19:53 <runemaste645> ok
19:53 <StickyNoob> and try the custom connect again
19:54 <runemaste645> doesnt work
19:54 <StickyNoob> hmm
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19:55 <sam000> how do you change CYCLE_RUBBER?
19:55 <sam000> hello?
19:56 <runemaste645> in settings_custom.cfg add a line that reads something like CYCLE_RUBBER 20.0
19:56 <Flex> StickyNoob, google it
19:56 <sam000> i couldn't find it on the forums or the wiki
19:56 <madmax> it's all over the forums :)
19:57 <runemaste645> sam000: in settings_custom.cfg add a line that reads something like CYCLE_RUBBER 20.0
19:57 <Flex> or the console ingame
19:57 <runemaste645> it doesnt have to be 20.0
19:57 <Flex> madmax, who's better Russia or Turkey?
19:57 <sam000> thanks everyone i think i got it
19:57 <runemaste645> if its negative living will be impossible
19:57 <madmax> runemaste645: disabling the firewall doesn't require a restart?
19:58 <Flex> (we're talking football)
19:58 <madmax> Flex: er, I'd say Russia
19:58 <runemaste645> how can i set rubber to infinite
19:58 <luke-jr> …
19:59 <Flex> lol
19:59 <runemaste645> i.e. make it impossible to die
19:59 <madmax> Flex: at least from the games I've seen Russia is better. they were pretty convencing against Sweden for instance
19:59 <Flex> yeah, just wondering
19:59 <Flex> what's your ratings on who would win if they were to play in euro08
20:00 <Flex> or was that Russia
20:00 <madmax> what, Russia-Turkey in the final? :P
20:01 <madmax> now that'd be a surprise
20:01 <Flex> haha na
20:01 <Flex> if they were in the same group basically
20:01 <Flex> just choose! did you go with Russia?
20:01 <madmax> ...yes
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20:08 <runemaste645> is there a way to force it to work?
20:09 <StickyNoob> heh
20:09 <StickyNoob> well it seems to me that its a problem with your router
20:09 <StickyNoob> so the only way to get it to work is find the right settings
20:10 <runemaste645> wait a second...
20:10 <runemaste645> now i see the problem
20:10 <StickyNoob> ?
20:10 <runemaste645> my modem forwards it as 192.168.1.92
20:10 <runemaste645> so i need to get the wired network working
20:11 <StickyNoob> runemaste645: thats not the problem
20:11 <StickyNoob> the problem is no furter than your router
20:11 <runemaste645> well if i plug it in to the hub then the router is out of the question, right?
20:12 <StickyNoob> if you plug the server into the hub yes the router nolonger matters
20:12 <runemaste645> the router gets its connection from the hub
20:12 <runemaste645> should i try it?
20:12 <StickyNoob> yeah sure
20:13 <runemaste645> ok brb
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20:17 <runemaste644> do you see this
20:17 <Flex> no
20:17 <Flex> :p
20:17 <runemaste644> hmm. i appear to have a ghost connection
20:17 <Flex> yeah, it'll go
20:18 <Flex> don't worry
20:18 <StickyNoob> will everyone stop with the lingo
20:18 <Flex> haha
20:18 <Flex> what's the correct term StickyNoob!
20:18 <StickyNoob> what is a ghost connection?
20:18 <madmax> lol
20:18 <Flex> ghost was good enough
20:19 <runemaste644> its what runemaste645 is now
20:19 <runemaste644> this is my real nick
20:20  * StickyNoob goes to ghost his connection to protect himself from black hat script kiddies
20:20 <runemaste644> -_-
20:20 <Flex> @_@
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20:20 <madmax> been practicing your combos heh StickyNoob?
20:21 <runemaste644> its when you disconnect but your nick stays there and forces you to go to an alternate nick
20:21 <Flex> he knows what it is runemaste644
20:21 <Flex> he's just being a stiffy-nitpicker
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20:21 <StickyNoob> thats a new one
20:22 <runemaste644> problem solved
20:22 <Flex> yeah, going to make one up every hour for you :D
20:23 <runemaste644> but my ethernet is working and wifi is disabled
20:24 <StickyNoob> Flex: and ill use a desultory term incorrecty, then when people ask what it means just tell them to google it.
20:25 <runemaste644> wtf
20:25 <Flex> but script kiddie is obvious and very common..
20:25 <Flex> it's well known and accepted too
20:25 <runemaste644> my local ip is 169.254.8.235
20:25 <StickyNoob> local ip??
20:26 <runemaste644> something is wrong
20:26 <StickyNoob> ok that could be right
20:27 <Lackadaisical> #tea
20:28 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:30 <runemaste644> whats the fortress cafe for
20:31 <hoax> beverages & light snacks
20:31 <runemaste644> O RLY? binary or hexadecimal drinks?
20:31 <hoax> wrtl needs to get an alcho license already mind
20:32 <hoax> & then tobacco
20:32 <hoax> & then make those 24hrs
20:32 <hoax> &air conditioning
20:32 <hoax> & then a few sofas
20:32 <hoax> with a plasma
20:32 <hoax> & a ps3
20:33 <hoax> & some pc's with arma so we can play sumo there
20:33 <StickyNoob> runemaste644: its the most popular fortress server
20:33 <hoax> and runescape so epsy can play
20:33 <StickyNoob> where all the pros play
20:33 <hoax> yeah thats why you dont see StickyNoob there
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20:35 <hoax> got to hoover now
20:35 <hoax> gangsta.
20:36 <xfroggy> ?
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21:59 <akira_arma> 1:0 russia!
22:00 <akira_arma> :D
22:06 <xfroggy> holy shit?!
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22:11 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/dogfight/tron-hq-df-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
22:25 <madmax> see Flex, russia owns
22:25 <Flex> pfff
22:26 <akira_arma> :)
22:26 <akira_arma> rusia!
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22:26 <akira_arma> russia ftw!
22:26 <Flex> i did not want russia to score at all..
22:27 <Flex> yay
22:27 <hoax> haha wd max
22:27 <Flex> 1-1
22:27 <hoax> way to jinx it
22:27 <Flex> haha
22:27 <madmax> lol
22:27 <Flex> yeah
22:27 <Flex> bitch!
22:27 <hoax> :D
22:27 <akira_arma> crap!
22:27 <akira_arma> :(
22:27 <Flex> lol! did you see his head nearly hitting the bar?
22:28 <xfroggy> lol i was for holland...
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22:28 <xfroggy> finally!
22:47 <madmax> arshavin rocks
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22:59 <akira_arma> russia is playing so good
22:59 <akira_arma> hey deserve it!
22:59 <akira_arma> they*
22:59 <xfroggy> haha
22:59 <xfroggy> u saw how he pushed the guy :D
23:00 <akira_arma> ...
23:00 <akira_arma> yea
23:00 <xfroggy> extra time is a little brutal :D
23:00 <xfroggy> majority of time most of them are on the ground lol
23:02 <madmax> yay
23:02 <hoax> ffs i wana watch penalties
23:02 <Flex> omg did not want russia to go through
23:03 <madmax> shhh Flex, you have money on it or something?
23:03 <akira_arma> YAY
23:03 <akira_arma> YAY
23:03 <akira_arma> russia is playing really good soccer
23:03 <madmax> yeah
23:03 <xfroggy> wooo !!
23:04 <madmax> where does that arshavin guy play? oO
23:04 <akira_arma> russia
23:04 <MaZuffeR> Zenit of course
23:04 <akira_arma> ;)
23:04 <MaZuffeR> uefa cup winners if you didnt know
23:05 <hoax> lol, who wont be playing for zenit in a few seasons
23:05 <xfroggy> lol
23:06 <madmax> hah
23:06 <Flex> OMG
23:06 <MaZuffeR> yay
23:06 <hoax> lol fucker arshavin
23:06 <Flex> WTH
23:06 <Flex> jahahahahahaha
23:06 <madmax> man they're clearly deserving it
23:06 <xfroggy> damn amazing
23:06 <Flex> jeez fuck you russia!
23:06 <Flex> just when i say they suck!
23:06 <xfroggy> lol u had some money going?
23:07 <hoax> i just feel bad for van der sar since hes retireing
23:07 <Flex> no not money.. an argument haha
23:07 <Flex> i said russia would get pwned :(
23:08 <xfroggy> lol thats what I said
23:08 <madmax> yeah right
23:08 <xfroggy> haha xD
23:08 <xfroggy> i was positive holland is gonna win
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23:08 <hoax> same
23:08 <Flex> same..
23:08 <Flex> now i can't visit that forum :(
23:08 <xfroggy> lmfao
23:09 <madmax> haha
23:10 <madmax> right, so now we need spain to get eliminated too so all favorites are out
23:10 <hoax> lol
23:10 <hoax> noo spain have to win now
23:10 <xfroggy> ^^
23:10 <Flex> didn't spain beat russia 4-1?
23:10 <madmax> yes
23:10 <Flex> would be ironic if they met at the finals
23:11 <madmax> on the other two games they were pretty good though
23:11 <xfroggy> oh mani  missed the 3rd goal
23:11 <hoax> nah greece & sweeden just sucked
23:11 <Flex> can they do a come back now?
23:11 <hoax> no
23:11 <hoax> lol
23:11 <Flex> turkey did it..
23:12 <madmax> heh no way
23:12 <hoax> theres 20sec left
23:12 <hoax> ^^
23:12 <Flex> there's still time!
23:12 <Flex> oh wait..
23:12 <xfroggy> i feel behind watching stream
23:12 <hoax> haha
23:12 <hoax> i want to punch hiddink in the face bigtime
23:12 <xfroggy> watching it in japanese or chinese makes it even worse
23:12 <Flex> haha hoax
23:13 <Flex> what's goal in chinese/japanese?
23:13 <Flex> lol
23:13 <xfroggy> like I understand lol
23:13 <hoax> what was the dutch black band for btw who died
23:13 <Lackadaisical> hiddink you traitor!
23:13 <madmax> lol
23:14 <Lackadaisical> daughter of bularouhz who was born too early
23:14 <xfroggy> well thats it
23:14 <Lackadaisical> not sure how you write his name
23:14 <hoax> oh ^^
23:14 <madmax> I think I'll put money on Italy
23:14 <Flex> wth happened to holland!
23:15 <Flex> they ran out of steam or something?
23:15 <hoax> fuck russia man rascist cunts hope they crash & burn to *cough* Spain
23:15 <madmax> since the "supposedly worse" teams are all winning
23:15 <Lackadaisical> guus hiddink probably knows holland better than marco van basten
23:15 <MaZuffeR> i'm thinking Russia - Turkey in the final :D
23:15 <Flex> ahha
23:15 <Flex> madmax :p
23:17  * madmax wants arshavin in his club
23:17 <madmax> not happening of course
23:18 <hoax> guess u dont support porto sporting or benfica then :P
23:18 <Flex> the 3rd goal was ill
23:18 <Flex> and stupid
23:18 <Flex> at the same time
23:18 <madmax> nah, I'm an FCPorto fan, but it's likely other teams are more appealing...
23:19 <madmax> and it says on wiki Arsenal is watching him...?
23:19 <hoax> ergh porto
23:19 <hoax> xD
23:19 <Flex> haha @ his face
23:19 <hoax> lol
23:20 <Flex> i'm going to bet on germany
23:20 <Flex> for the turkish match
23:21 <madmax> ergh porto heh?
23:21 <hoax> btw whats with euro08 being sponsored by every south korean car manufacturer
23:22 <hoax> yeah max, worst european cup final ever aswell :D
23:22 <madmax> riiight
23:22 <hoax> 4-0 in champs league was sweet though against u gays
23:23 <hoax> andy cole gettin the 4th
23:23 <hoax> woot
23:23 <hoax> man that was time ago
23:23 <Flex> i hope you guys shut about football when the euro is over
23:23 <Flex> i can't stand the stupid useless banter over and over
23:23 <Flex> and over, over over over
23:23 <Lackadaisical> anyone up for some fort?
23:23 <Flex> yeah
23:23 <akira_arma> #tea
23:23 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:23 <akira_arma> :o
23:23 <akira_arma> ok i'd be in
23:24 <madmax> wait, 4-0? '97? haha
23:24 <hoax> lol ye
23:24 <xfroggy> #tea
23:24 <armabot> xfroggy: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Lackadaisical, [pQ]Flex
23:24 <xfroggy> ill come in a min
23:26 <hoax> aye same
23:56 <epsy> #time
23:56 <armabot> epsy: 11:56 PM, June 21, 2008

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00:44 <epsy> zmanuel, in AUTHORS i am still mentionned as a third-party contributor, I'm not sure if i am still meant to be there or not :)
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01:14 <hoax> #tea
01:14 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): CT_emmy (peiaemanuel@crazy-tronners.com), CTºAdy-Lucifer (Ady-Lucifer@crazy-tronners.com), Dude, Lackadaisical (Lackadaisical@forums), madmax (madmax@forums), z3r0, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
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01:26 <ivantis> whos there?
01:27 <StickyNoob> yo
01:27 <ivantis> hey sticky
01:28 <ivantis> you know why i havent been on irc for a while? i was living in an airstream out in the middle of nowhere for a while
01:28 <ivantis> 2 whole days without internet!
01:28 <ivantis> i almost died
01:29 <StickyNoob> heh
01:29 <ivantis> i just got to a hotel
01:29 <ivantis> with wi-fi
01:30 <StickyNoob> why you traveling so much?
01:30 <ivantis> for fun
01:30  * ivantis is visiting his cousin
01:31 <StickyNoob> ahh
01:31 <StickyNoob> yun?
01:31 <StickyNoob> fun even
01:32 <ivantis> yeah
01:32 <StickyNoob> sorry distupgrading ubuntu and it keeps taking my network down
01:32 <ivantis> your on ubuntu too? i thought you used gentoo
01:33 <StickyNoob> naa i prefer my computer to have another use other than compiling itself
01:34 <ivantis> yes
01:35 <ivantis> you know what im gona do when i get home? work on a zones hack
01:35 <StickyNoob> what do you want to do?
01:36 <ivantis> you know that post from safariskater a while ago for the growing and shrinking zones?
01:36 <ivantis> something like that
01:36 <StickyNoob> i dont read the forums
01:37 <StickyNoob> zones can grow and shrink at the moment cant they?
01:37 <ivantis> er
01:37 <ivantis> idk
01:37 <ivantis> but like settings on maps, n stuff
01:37 <StickyNoob> death zones grow
01:38 <ivantis> i know, but shrink
01:38 <ivantis> is what he asked
01:38 <StickyNoob> well the sumo zones shrink
01:38 <ivantis> yeah, but just from settings
01:39 <ivantis> not from colapsing
01:39 <StickyNoob> yeah sumo zones naturaly get smaller even when not collapsing
01:39 <ivantis> o
01:40 <ivantis> i should start looking at something like that
01:40 <ivantis> to start on this
01:43 <ivantis> look at this http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18409&highlight= post
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01:48 <epsy> hi
01:48 <ivantis> hey epsy
01:49 <epsy> pls no! work on dummy bugfixing! :)
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01:50 <ivantis> what?
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01:53 <ivantis> w/e
01:53 <ivantis> i might even start on zones right now...
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02:21 <Flex> #tea
02:21 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): CTºAdy-Lucifer (Ady-Lucifer@crazy-tronners.com), J§°, NSC chriscross, TrT~GöKu, twisp, ~|DS|~ Judders
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02:34 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
02:34 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla, CA, San Diego, California is 95.9°F (5:32 PM PDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.45 in 997.2 hPa (Steady).
02:35 <ivantis> #weather 88005
02:35 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Elks Club, Las Cruces, New Mexico is 72.3°F (6:35 PM MDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady).
02:38 <ivantis> #weather 99999
02:38 <armabot> ivantis: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
02:38 <ivantis> #weather 66044
02:38 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Alvamar Estates, Lawrence, Kansas is 79.3°F (7:38 PM CDT on June 21, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
02:39 <StickyNoob> ivantis: im not sure but i think epsy ment please dont try to fix things that are not bugs
02:39 <ivantis> yeah. w/e
02:40 <ivantis> im working on it right now, but gWinZone.cpp/.h are just garbles of incomprehensible crap. i found some stuff that is relevant, but i dont want to fool with it till im sure
02:40 <StickyNoob> heh
02:40 <ivantis> im working on 0.2.8_alpha source that i just got from bzr
02:41 <StickyNoob> yoyu program c++?
02:41 <ivantis> well, im not too good, but i can usually get the idea from someone elses source
02:42 <ivantis> if i do something wrong, will it give compiling errors?
02:43 <StickyNoob> depends on exactly what you do wrong
02:43 <ivantis> like do something against its corosponding .h file
02:43 <StickyNoob> you can get stuff to complie that still is garbage and dosent do what you want
02:46 <ivantis> will you try everything out for me? i dont have a client on the computer im using for SSH
02:46 <ivantis> ill host a private server
02:46 <StickyNoob> err ok
02:46 <ivantis> tyvm
02:48 <ivantis> and... will you help me a little with coding? youre good at this right?
02:49 <StickyNoob> no im not good at it at all, but i can try
02:50 <StickyNoob> tbh im not sure what you are trying to achieve, you seem to want expanding zones but the method: gZone & gZone::SetExpansionSpeed( REAL expansionSpeed ) is in there, what more do you want?
02:50 <ivantis> so that you can make them shrink
02:51 <ivantis> without being sumo zones
02:51 <StickyNoob> put a negative value in to that method
02:51 <ivantis> did you read http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18409&
02:51 <StickyNoob> no
02:52  * StickyNoob reads
02:52 <ivantis> ok, negative. i had a better idea: if ZONE_MODE is shrink, its negative, if its grow, its posotive. good idea, eh?
02:53 <StickyNoob> i prefer negative values
02:54 <ivantis> a shrinking death zone? who the hell is stupid enough to fall for that?
02:54 <StickyNoob> reduces the number of variables lyeing around and makes things easier to understand and more compact
02:54 <Flex> StickyNoob, so what you wearin
02:54 <ivantis> uh, ill put a lot of comments around it
02:54 <ivantis> but first for a negatvie
02:54 <ivantis> for you to test
02:55 <StickyNoob> Flex: the restraining order includes irc
02:55 <ivantis> whats the regular setting for win zone growth amount?
02:55 <Flex> oh
02:55 <ivantis> like /admin setting
02:55 <StickyNoob> ivantis: duno, just try something
02:55 <ivantis> k
02:55 <ivantis> ill set it up after i get it
03:07 <ivantis> hey, im compiling, how do i just make the server and not the client?
03:08 <StickyNoob> ./configure --disable-glout isnt it?
03:08 <ivantis> i think theres more, and it says make client true, server false
03:09 <StickyNoob> heh actualy --enable-dedicated
03:09 <ivantis> that was it before
03:10 <ivantis> im doing make
03:10 <ivantis> ...
03:10 <ivantis> displaying a lot of junk...
03:10 <StickyNoob> you set it at the configure stage
03:10 <ivantis> i know
03:10 <ivantis> i did
03:10 <StickyNoob> did you run "./configure --enable-dedicated"??
03:11 <ivantis> no, ./configure --disable-glout
03:11 <ivantis> that worked
03:11 <StickyNoob> ok
03:11 <ivantis> would this thing hurry up!!!
03:11 <ivantis> grr
03:11 <ivantis> i might have to go soon, im goin somewhere again
03:11 <StickyNoob> ivantis: how many cores does the computer compiling have?
03:11 <ivantis> it better compile soon
03:12 <ivantis> cores? what?
03:12 <StickyNoob> single core, dual, quad?
03:12 <ivantis> idk
03:12 <ivantis> the "make" got angry about some things in gWinZone.cpp, but it ignored them
03:13 <ivantis> ok, i must go, i need to go somewhere. i might be back tomorow
03:13 <StickyNoob> cya
03:14 <ivantis> later
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04:27 <Stewie-arma> it's the x noob
04:27 <xfroggy> noob x sounds more polite
04:27 <Stewie-arma> well
04:28 <Stewie-arma> "it's the noob x"
04:28 <xfroggy> :D
04:28 <Stewie-arma> just doesn't fit too well in my books
04:28 <xfroggy> blade hell
04:28 <xfroggy> :D
04:28 <ct|kyle> N00B ALERT
04:29 <ct|kyle> Please Kick the n00b armabot
04:29 <xfroggy> ct|kyle, :D
04:29 <ct|kyle> xfroggy: :D
04:39 <Stewie-arma> :D
04:39 <Stewie-arma> sorry
04:39 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma, :D
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05:51 <luke-jr> ah, that was a good movie…
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07:32 <xfroggy> luke-jr, passion of the christ?
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10:21 <akira_arma_> wow
10:21 <akira_arma_> tron crashed the 1st time for me!
10:21 <akira_arma_> 0.3.0 version
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10:36 <akira_arma__> anyone of the devs alive?
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11:02 <epsy> akira_arma, what did you do ?
11:03 <akira_arma> well the latest gcc build randomly crashed
11:03 <akira_arma> locked up windows
11:03 <akira_arma> changed to z-mans and had no prob so far
11:03 <epsy> well, you can fill up a bug report, but it might be already fixed
11:04 <epsy> detail the problem as precise as possible etc
11:04 <epsy> bbl
11:04 <akira_arma> well hard to tell if it locks up
11:04 <akira_arma> and randomly
11:04 <akira_arma> ;)
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12:00 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with man
12:00 <armabot> epsy: [00:44:04] <epsy> zmanuel, in AUTHORS i am still mentionned as a third-party contributor, I'm not sure if i am still meant to be there or not :)
12:00 <epsy> manuel_, ping :)
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13:34 <Flex> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/2600338708_1829b3fcac_o.jpg
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14:22 <madmax> nice photo :D
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17:49 <guru3> http://guru3.net/temp/whatsong.mp3 <--- what the hell is the name of that piece
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17:51 <StickyNoob> just sounds like someone messing around on a scale
17:52 <guru3> wow... i was expecting too much from irc
17:52 <StickyNoob> what is it?
17:53 <guru3> i don't know
17:53 <guru3> that's why i was asking on irc
17:53 <guru3> all i do know is that it's a piece of classical music
17:55 <guru3> JS Bach Cantata 147
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19:59 <xfroggy> lol so today italy winning :D
20:08 <madmax> yep
20:09 <luke-jr> xfroggy: 12 Angry Men
20:10 <luke-jr> [12:41:07] <Ziggy_Sawdust> █▄ █▄█ █▄ ▀█▄   █▄█▄█ █▄█ ▀█▀
20:10 <luke-jr> -.-
20:10 <Flex> i'm going with spain
20:10 <madmax> watch out, you lost yesterday
20:10 <Flex> yes but i was right with turkey
20:16 <madmax> #eightball will italy win in today's match?
20:16 <armabot> madmax: You know the answer better than I.
20:17 <madmax> well, hmmm
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20:23 <xfroggy> luke-jr, I love that movie
20:33 <Flex> actually i would bet if i could be bothered to register or go out to the betting shop
20:33 <Flex> i'd probably betting every game
20:36 <FoFoLiNo> X-.-
20:36 <xfroggy> Oo
20:36 <xfroggy> :p
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23:56 <akira_arma> #tea
23:56 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): MonsterChad
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04:47 <akira_arma> #armaservers
04:47 <armabot> akira_arma: This data is 19 seconds old; Wild West  =Team Sumo= (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), <Et3rnal.Ãll¡ånç3> Clan Server DF (9/16), Nexus9 Flag Fortress (NO RUBBER!) (7/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (7/8), zapTron (6/6), The YELLOW Submarine (6/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5/10), .ReloaD'! Dog Fight (4/8), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH (2 more messages)
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07:23 <akira_arma> Lucifer.. how do I create a bug report when my system completely locks up?
07:23 <Lucifer> First, unlock your system
07:23 <Lucifer> Second, file a bug report :)
07:23 <akira_arma> ...
07:23 <Lucifer> hang on, I have a less smart-ass response for that
07:24 <Lucifer> lemme finish this email real quick
07:25 <Lucifer> ok, ready for a serious answer?
07:25 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma a bottle of strawberry wine
07:25 <armabot> I have sent a bottle of strawberry wine to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
07:26 <akira_arma> ..
07:26 <akira_arma> well i guess a memeory dump would be fine
07:26 <akira_arma> memory
07:27 <akira_arma> windows version..
07:27 <akira_arma> randomly locks up completely
07:29 <Lucifer> ok, here's what you should do
07:29 <Lucifer> first, make a recording, obviously :)
07:29 <Lucifer> play it until your system locks up, then reboot
07:30 <Lucifer> upload your recording and put as much information as you can into the bug tracker
07:30 <Lucifer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad  <--- bookmark it if you need to
07:30 <Lucifer> the information we need is this:  (hopefully this list is complete)
07:30 <akira_arma> my system etc
07:31 <Lucifer> OS, including service pack if necessary, version of arma, graphics card, etc
07:31 <Lucifer> also, we need to know what you were doing
07:31 <akira_arma> playing? :)
07:31 <Lucifer> consider that the recording may not actually include the exact information we need
07:31 <akira_arma> all TSRs?
07:31 <Lucifer> you're in the spot where if the system really is locking up, then armagetron may not be writing to the recording the crucial information that shows the bug
07:31 <akira_arma> thats what i thought
07:32 <Lucifer> so if the recording doesn't show it, we need information to tell us what we can do to reproduce it
07:32 <akira_arma> it ahppens randomly
07:32 <Lucifer> the recording *will* contain your graphics card and other settings, which will be needed to determine it
07:32 <luke-jr> wtf uses TSRs these days?
07:32 <Lucifer> if it happens randomly, then you're in the spot where you shoudl record every time you play
07:32 <Lucifer> if it doesn't happen when you play, delete the recording if you need to
07:32 <akira_arma> i was just using that abbreviation for background tasks
07:32 <Lucifer> but if it does happen, reboot as needed, and then find the recording file and upload it
07:33 <akira_arma> well i dont really like playing when i have to freakin reboot every time
07:33 <akira_arma> :)
07:33 <Lucifer> if it's happening every time, then it shouldn't be too hard to get a recording of it :)
07:33 <Lucifer> within the limitations previously expressed, that is
07:33 <akira_arma> also the sounds seem to be messed up
07:34 <akira_arma> i am refering to 0.3.0 of course
07:34 <Lucifer> you might have to screw with sound settings in 0.3.0, there are some, er, what's the word
07:34 <Lucifer> I don't remember the word, had too much of my strawberry wine
07:34 <akira_arma> lol
07:35 <Lucifer> awww, no lessons scheduled for me yet
07:35 <luke-jr> 0.3.0 is obsolete
07:36 <akira_arma> ...
07:36 <akira_arma> its the latest on the beta page
07:36 <akira_arma> ---
07:37 <luke-jr> akira_arma: latest experimental release, yes
07:37 <luke-jr> you can blame Lucifer for 0.3.1 never getting released ☺
07:37 <akira_arma> why?
07:37 <luke-jr> because he was going to do it
07:38 <akira_arma> so dev has stopped?
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08:24 <Lucifer> no, dev hasn't stopped
08:25 <Lucifer> it's just that, well, we're not apache
08:25 <Lucifer> prioritizing arma development in our personal lives puts it pretty low on the priority list
08:25 <akira_arma> understandable
08:25 <Lucifer> hell, if I could put time into arma development in the kind of piecemeal way that I can put time into making wine, I'd get a lot done
08:26 <akira_arma> its just that the last stable was released 2 years ago :)
08:26 <Lucifer> but it's not like I can just spontaneously say (as I did tonight) "It's time to bottle!", and then the next 45 minutes would be useful time for arma
08:26 <akira_arma> btw i dont like that minimap :D
08:26 <Lucifer> I love the minimap :)
08:26 <akira_arma> its irritating!
08:27 <Lucifer> and man, when I first tasted the strawberry, I didn't know it was this strong, but now I'm pretty drunk
08:27 <akira_arma> ha
08:27 <Lucifer> you can disable it, but you have to make your own cockpit to do it
08:27 <Lucifer> I think
08:27 <Lucifer> hmmm
08:27 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: is there a way in 0.3.0 to disable the minimap without making your own cockpit?  akira_arma would like to know
08:28 <Lucifer> I'm a go grab a cigarette, then I'm going to lay next to my wife and hope she's fallen asleep, because I don't think I have it in me to satisfy her tonight
08:28 <akira_arma> :D
08:28 <akira_arma> you sure type good for bneing drunk
08:30 <Lucifer> you say that only because you didn't see how many times I had to backspace :)
08:30 <Lucifer> wow, this is a really nice wine :)
08:31 <Lucifer> hey, don't forget, I've had lots of practice playing guitar while drinking, so coordinating my fingers is something I've already worked on
08:31 <akira_arma> I stopped playing my instrument long ago
08:31 <akira_arma> like
08:31 <akira_arma> 15 years?
08:31 <akira_arma> 14
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08:39 <joda_bot> akira_arma: Lucifer has an devilish, evil typing speed ... so he might hit backspace more than 6times per 1 second, while still adding characters to the message :-P
08:40 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: in a local game there is
08:46 <Lucifer> man, I've been playing steadily since I was 17
08:46 <Lucifer> now that I"m older than dirt, you'd think I was good at it :)
08:46 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: does that work for internet games too?
08:47  * Lucifer chuckles at joda_bot's characterization of his typing speed
08:47  * Lucifer needs to trim his mustache
08:48 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm going to bed.  If there's a way to disable the minimap that'll help akira_arma, I'd like akira_arma (hi there!) to learn what it is
08:48 <Lucifer> 'night
08:48 <joda_bot> Lucifer: gn8
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08:51 <akira_arma> O.o
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10:09 <akira_arma> #armaservers
10:09 <armabot> akira_arma: This data is 24 seconds old; Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (4/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (4/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (3/10), - | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | - (3/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (3/12)
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17:11 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/sumo/paralyzed-warsumo-square-1-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
17:23 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/sumo/paralyzed-warsumo-square-2-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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17:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/sumo/paralyzed-warsumo-square-3-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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19:17 <ivantis> hello zmanuel
19:18 <ct|kyle> ivantis:
19:19 <ivantis> what?
19:19 <ivantis> man, where is everyone?
19:19 <ct|kyle> maybe http://dcr.csusb.edu/LearningCenter/LCimages/UnitCircle.gif will help you understand what i was saying for making a circle in that map maker program
19:20 <ivantis> phoo
19:20 <ivantis> all my math, seems to have just flown south for the summer
19:20 <ivantis> anyway, i got another project right now
19:20 <ivantis> but, what about the circle?
19:20 <ivantis> i looked at that thing
19:21 <ivantis> but i dont get how it tells you where the points are
19:22 <ct|kyle> sin(angle) is the same as the y point and cos(angle) is the same as the x point
19:22 <ivantis> but thats only 2 points
19:22 <ivantis> which makes a line
19:22 <ivantis> ???
19:23 <ct|kyle> if you change the angle and go around 360 degrees you make a circle
19:23 <ivantis> kidanger_: hey
19:23 <ivantis> uh
19:23 <ivantis> i dont really have access to it right now
19:24 <ivantis> ping 63.245.166.39
19:24 <ivantis> and tell me if it responds
19:24 <kidanger_> Hey ivantis
19:24 <ivantis> hey
19:25 <ivantis> sups?
19:27 <kidanger_> From 63.245.166.39 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
19:27 <ivantis> yeah, my remote idiot forgot to turn my computer on again
19:27 <kidanger_> ^^
19:28 <ivantis> hhey kidanger_, do you use a restarting script for your server?
19:28 <kidanger_> no
19:28 <ivantis> you should
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19:29 <kidanger_> when I host my server, i am on my comp, so i see if there is a problem
19:29 <kidanger_> ( and I don't host long time )
19:29 <ivantis> i know, but sometimes you must
19:29 <ivantis> hold on...
19:31 <ivantis> go to this page i wrote http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_auto_restart
19:31 <kidanger_> 64 bytes from 63.245.166.39: icmp_seq=5 ttl=47 time=235 ms
19:31 <kidanger_> ok, thx :)
19:31 <ivantis> all right, my computer is on
19:32 <ivantis> hey StickyNo1b
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19:37 <ivantis> hey guys, look at my 'fun
19:37 <ivantis> ' project
19:37 <ivantis> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197513
19:40 <ivantis> kidanger: are you on a computer with a client on it?
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19:44 <ivantis> ok kyle, i have access now
19:44 <ivantis> ct|kyle ct|kyle
19:44 <ivantis> alert
19:44 <ct|kyle> oi
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19:48 <kidanger> ivantis: I am
19:48 <ivantis> ok
19:48 <kidanger> why ?
19:48 <ivantis> will you test something for me?
19:49 <ivantis> im workin on a hack of the server
19:49 <kidanger> ah ?
19:49 <kidanger> I will
19:49 <ivantis> yeah, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197513
19:49 <ivantis> thx
19:50 <ivantis> hey, what line did you use to compile the sty server, like ./configure --something? i did it before, now i cant remember
19:51 <kidanger> hum, wait
19:51 <kidanger> ./configure --prefix=/home/anger/armagetronad/$date-server/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts
19:51 <kidanger> ?
19:52 <ivantis> thx
19:52 <ivantis> hang on
19:53 <ivantis> ive got to re-bzr it to add all the zone stuff that im working on
19:53 <ivantis> and then compile it again
19:54 <kidanger> the sty branch ?
19:54 <ivantis> yeah, thats what im going to do the zone thing on
19:54 <kidanger> ok
19:58 <ivantis> ugh, whoever wrote gWinZone.cpp and .h (/me is thinking z-man) is not good at commenting in code
19:58 <epsy> gWinZone.cpp is guite crap indeed :P
19:58 <epsy> bbl
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19:59 <kidanger> When you finish, plz give me the path to the branch
19:59 <ivantis> what?
19:59 <ivantis> which branch?
19:59 <ivantis> bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty ??
19:59 <kidanger> yes, maybe ^^
20:00 <kidanger> I compile it now ?
20:00 <ivantis> why not?
20:03 <kidanger> *configure*
20:03 <ivantis> huh?
20:04 <kidanger> *make*
20:05 <ivantis> ???
20:05 <kidanger> I'm compiling
20:06 <ivantis> o
20:06 <kidanger> =P
20:06 <kidanger> My comp is slow ...
20:07 <ivantis> wrong: compiling is slow
20:07 <kidanger> but with a fast comp, compiling is faster
20:07 <ivantis> yeah
20:07 <ivantis> like mine!!!
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20:11 <kidanger> finished !
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20:11 <kidanger> I start the server ?
20:11 <ivantis> why recompiling?
20:11 <kidanger> recompiling ? i compile your version, am I not ?
20:12 <kidanger> I had an old version
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20:14 <kidanger> ivantis: What I need to do now ?
20:16 <ivantis> oh
20:16 <ivantis> no, thats not my version
20:16 <ivantis> im working on it right now
20:16 <kidanger> ok
20:18 <kidanger> #sd danger
20:18 <armabot> kidanger: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “danger” at the moment, sorry.
20:18 <ivantis> you gotta do #sd -v <part of server name>
20:18 <ivantis> #sd -v space-lab
20:18 <armabot> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (0/8):
20:22 <kidanger> ok
20:22 <kidanger> ivantis: what do you want i do now ?
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20:24 <ivantis> well, right now im still working on it
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20:24 <ivantis> nothing yet
20:24 <kidanger> ok
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20:25 <ivantis> what do you think of the setting WIN_ZONE_SHRINK?
20:25 <kidanger> ? idk
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20:27 <kidanger> What does this setting do
20:27 <kidanger> ?
20:27 <ivantis> how fast the win (or death) zone will shrink
20:28 <ivantis> also WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION_TIME and WIN_ZONE_SHRINK_TIME
20:28 <ivantis> how long it will
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20:30 <kidanger> I understand what shrink is for wall, but I don't understand for zone
20:31 <ivantis> ??
20:31 <kidanger> sry for my english :s
20:31 <kidanger> #t en fr shrink
20:31 <armabot> kidanger: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
20:31 <kidanger> bha
20:32 <madmax> #armaconfig cycle_rubber_wall_shrink
20:32 <armabot> madmax: CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK: With finite length trails, the used rubber is multiplied with this value and the result is subtracted from the wall length. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK differs from its default? (default: 3)
20:32 <ivantis> like this: there is a growing zone, after WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION_TIME in seconds, it will start to shrink, get me?
20:32 <madmax> that's the shrink kidanger is talking about
20:32 <ivantis> yeah, i know
20:32 <madmax> '??' didn't seem like it
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20:32 <ivantis> but /me is making new settings
20:32 <kidanger> ok
20:33 <madmax> you are making new settings?...
20:33 <kidanger> so: EXPANSION: the zone grow, SHRINK: the zone become small
20:33 <kidanger> ?
20:33 <ivantis> yeah
20:33 <madmax> we're doomed
20:33 <kidanger> ah, ok
20:33 <ivantis> yes and yes
20:33 <ivantis> did you read the forum post? bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
20:34 <ivantis> er,http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=197513
20:34 <kidanger> yes, but I don't really understand about the SHRINK word ^^
20:34 <kidanger> Now it's ok :)
20:34 <ivantis> k
20:35 <ivantis> 3 new settings: WIN_ZONE_SHRINK, WIN_ZONE_SHRINK_TIME, WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION_TIME
20:36 <ivantis> the ones ending in _time are measured in seconds how long the grow or shrink
20:36 <kidanger> WIN_ZONE_SHRINK is when the zone will shrink ?
20:37 <ivantis> how fast it will shrink
20:37 <kidanger> ah >.< k
20:37  * kidanger is stupid ..
20:37 <ivantis> hey, anyone know how to add the manual pages for commands?
20:37 <ivantis> UNDOCUMENTED is not good enough for me
20:38 <kidanger> it's in a file, I think it's language file
20:38 <ivantis> k
20:39 <kidanger> Good Luck ;)
20:39 <ivantis> when the pig added all those commands, theyre all undocumented
20:39 <ivantis> haha
20:40 <akira_arma> #tea
20:40 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:41 <kidanger> Why all people like fortress ?
20:43 <ivantis> kuz fortress is fun
20:44 <ivantis> hmm, should i make the win zone rotation speed?
20:44 <ivantis> a setting?
20:45 <kidanger> and a setting to move the zone =D
20:45 <ivantis> that, would take way more effort than worth it
20:45 <ivantis> and, i have to go now
20:46 <ivantis> bbl
20:46 <kidanger> bb
20:46 <kidanger> gl
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21:20 <madmax> #seen monkey_arma
21:20 <armabot> madmax: monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 2 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> right cu guys wednesday/thursday
21:21 <madmax> #seen vanhayes
21:21 <armabot> madmax: vanhayes was last seen in #armagetron 12 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 13 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Vanhayes> bbl, maybe
21:21 <P4> #seen madmax
21:21 <armabot> P4: madmax was last seen in #armagetron 18 seconds ago: <madmax> #seen vanhayes
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21:27 <ivantis> grrrr! i was in the middle of the zones thing i was working on, i forgot to save it!!!!! grrr
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21:57 <ivantis> is anyone there?
21:57 <joda_bot1> yes
22:08 <ivantis> hi
22:08 <ivantis> noob13: you there?
22:09 <ivantis> zmanuel: you there?
22:10 <ivantis> StickyNo1b: you there?
22:29 <ivantis> grr
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23:35 <Durka> o_O
23:36 <Durka> luke-jr: LOLOLOL
23:36 <Durka> luke-jr is a funny man
23:38 <Durka> #m madmax portugal :\
23:38 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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00:33 <akira_arma> #tea
00:33 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): åppåritiøn, Concord, xfroggy
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02:06 <madmax> the guys at nexus discovered >4 axes. great.
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02:16 <mkzelda> its been there for a long time, someone made a VR helmet w/ headroll
02:17 <mkzelda> http://joelclemens.colinr.ca/thesis/what.html
02:18 <mkzelda> now the guy is doing motion tracking w/ guns
02:18 <mkzelda> http://www.cs.uga.edu/~ldeligia/PUBLIC/PROJECTS/VR_games/
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02:31 <ivantiss> j/
02:32  * ivantiss is on a f***ed up mac on which it is impossible to make a question mark
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03:07 <luke-jr> hey n00bs
03:07 <luke-jr> do I let this guy have an author name with a space?
03:13 <ct|kyle> no n00bs here to answer luke-jr
03:13 <luke-jr> so true
03:14 <luke-jr> guru3 or wrtlprnft then?
03:17 <ct|kyle> and you think they stay up till 2 AM?
03:18 <luke-jr> 8 PM
03:18 <luke-jr> :þ
03:18 <ct|kyle> 2 AM or 3AM for them 9PM for me
03:19 <luke-jr> http://rafb.net/p/wzqtxQ17.html
03:19 <luke-jr> retard alert:þ
03:24 <ct|kyle> i did not know there were people dumber than you
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03:29 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: he's in #anime
03:29 <luke-jr> (no clue why, he doesn't seem to talk about anime at all)
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03:31 <ct|kyle> probably because no one like anime
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06:21 <Lucifer> it occurs to me that all wine is good after you've had a couple of glasses of it
06:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer: do I let this guy have an author name with a space?
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16:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/paralyzed-paintballfortress-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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18:18 <Stewie-arma> #weather 92037
18:18 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The current temperature in La Jolla, CA, San Diego, California is 73.9°F (9:17 AM PDT on June 24, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Steady).
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19:40 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Paralyzed/paintball/paralyzed-paintballfortress-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Paralyzed
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21:32 <hoax> #tea
21:32 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): .:] xfroggy, CTxTadd, RAm, SpinAce, ~"XzL.Lìghtnìng, ¦×¦epsy
21:34 <epsy> :X
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21:37 <epsy> hoax -.-
21:38 <hoax> haha fk
21:38 <hoax> brb
21:38 <hoax> 4mins
21:38 <hoax> :D
21:38 <epsy> unbanned u
21:38 <hoax> <3
21:38 <epsy> :)
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23:24 <P4> joda_bot :)
23:25 <P4> #g 144pln in eur
23:25 <armabot> P4: 144 Polish zloty = 45.0769655 Euros
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23:57 <madmax> "wat keys r u using if u dont tell me ur a pussy"

Log from 2008-06-25:
--- Day changed Wed Jun 25 2008
00:09 <epsy> #lastseen madmax
00:09 <epsy> let me guess
00:10 <epsy> ,9
00:10 <epsy> n9*
00:10 <armabot> epsy: timed out
00:10 <madmax> yeah, that was in n9
00:10 <epsy> #lastseen swoosh
00:10 <armabot> epsy: swoosh has last been seen on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) 17 minutes ago.
00:10 <madmax> ...
00:10 <epsy> yeah, right
00:10 <epsy> couldn't expect that from anything else :P
00:12 <epsy> um, and swoosh is one of your alternative nicks ( with smurf #1 ) everybody knows of, so..hum..stop looking at me or ur a pussy
00:13 <madmax> nah, not everyone one
00:13 <madmax> actually, before you entered cafe today, no one knew
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00:13 <madmax> and after it too I guess
00:14 <epsy> and now..too heh
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00:23 <Lackadaisical> madmax is swoosh?!
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00:23 <epsy> Lackadaisical is 1000Grams?!
00:23 <madmax> epsy is the fake Player 1?!
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00:25 <madmax> confess it epsy, you keep a book with all known aliases
00:25 <epsy> "i will"
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00:27 <madmax> I think I'll just use MD5 on a random nick, grab some chars of it, and use that
00:28 <madmax> some uniqueness to make you spend lots of paper :P
00:28 <epsy> still, you always forget to change color and style
00:29 <madmax> lol
00:29 <madmax> I was with another color before you entered, but then changed
00:30 <madmax> I like how my usual one fits the "blue team"
00:30 <madmax> anyway, no way I'm changing style for that purpose heh
00:31 <madmax> random nick + silence everyone works fine
00:32 <epsy> http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/nick.php
00:37 -!- Stewie-arma is now known as AngryOverlord
00:38 <epsy> good night
00:39 <epsy> madmax, i'm really not serious enough at arma to play just to play, i need the chat, heh
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01:56 <madmax> #tea
01:56 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): .:] xfroggy, /dev/null/h4ck, Inferno
01:56 <madmax> #armaservers
01:56 <armabot> madmax: This data is 2 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West  =Team Sumo= (10/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Norm's Place (9/12), The YELLOW Submarine (9/16), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (8/10), <Eternal. Alliance> <DF.Server> (7/8), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (5/12), Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) (4/16), |Forgotten Warriors~ Clan Server HR (4/12), (2 more messages)
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02:23 <hoax> #later tell epsy no. what did you want? :D
02:23 <armabot> hoax: The operation succeeded.
02:24 <hoax> madmax, Got Gap?©
02:26 <madmax> :D
02:26 <hoax> ;)
02:37 <madmax> #ls gotgap
02:37 <armabot> madmax: GotGap?® has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 hours 22 minutes ago.
02:37 <madmax> were you there too? lol
02:37 <hoax> haha ^^
02:39 <hoax> nah just a good memory :P
03:09 <madmax> #ping
03:09 <armabot> pong
03:10 <madmax> #tea
03:10 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): /dev/null/h4ck, Alpha, featherfcuk, ~*Sasha*~, ¦×¦ Hoax
03:11 <madmax> #sd -v café
03:11 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20080514 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (8/32): /dev/null/h4ck, Alpha, featherfcuk, ~*Sasha*~, ¦×¦ Hoax
03:11 <hoax> leaving suddenly is the new saying bye i tell ya
03:12 <madmax> I got a timeout and now I can't connect o_O
03:13 <hoax> hm :/
03:13 <madmax> and it doesn't show on the server browser
03:13  * madmax traceroutes
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04:07 <madmax> o_O
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04:07 <madmax> so, hospital records hoax? :P
04:07 <madmax> i'll check it out, gnight
04:08 <hoax> yeah ;) nite
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04:20 <xfroggy> lol?
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04:20 <hoax> I'll give him some excess flood after I finished this
04:25 <xfroggy> LOL
04:26 <ct|kyle> o0 N00b ALERT
04:27 <hoax> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7472490.stm
04:27 <hoax> 3rd para, why am i not suprised
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04:28 <hoax> aaahhhhhh
04:29 <xfroggy> he is becoming annoying
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04:29 <xfroggy> is that a boxter?
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04:30 <xfroggy> yup
04:32 <hoax> heh yeah, at least she drove over another womans car
04:32 <hoax> or gave some guy what he deserved for buying it
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04:44 <hoax> lol, nite
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11:34 <epsy> hi
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17:33 <akira_arma> #tea
17:33 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): JESICA, killerbees19, van Nelle
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21:22 <akira_arma> #tea
21:22 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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21:50 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i'm getting complaints about you, apparently some serious stuff
21:52  * Stewah complains about epsy
21:59 <ct|kyle> epsy messes around with stuff too much
21:59 <ct|kyle> :D
22:02 <wrtlprnft> please only use any admin/moderator powers when absolutely necessary
22:04 <xfroggy> yea epsy stop abusing powers ><
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22:54 <madmax> #tea
22:54 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): <V>23, O--->, xfroggy
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23:14 <akira_arma> #tea
23:14 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): <V>23, Lackadaisical, O--->, supersymmetry, xfroggy, ~|DS|~G5, ¦×¦ liza (flash@x)
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00:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: omg
00:09 <luke-jr> serious stuff⁈
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01:46 <madmax> #m hoax hospital has a podcast \o/
01:46 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
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02:15 <Lizmatic> #lastseen Lizmatic
02:15 <armabot> Lizmatic: Lizmatic has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 23 minutes ago.
02:16 <Lizmatic> #lastseen Sasori
02:16 <armabot> Lizmatic: timed out
04:09 <Lizmatic> #lastseen sasori
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04:09 <armabot> Lizmatic: timed out
04:10 <Flex> #aka lizmatic
04:10 <armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'lizmatic'!
04:10 <Flex> #aka flex
04:10 <armabot> Flex: ¿22380 |sexy|_flexy flex 0:Flex@x |x|_flex 0:flex@L_OP |x|_flew |dmx|_flex fle|x|
04:13 <Lizmatic_away> #aka flexgirl
04:13 <Lizmatic_away> :p
04:13 <armabot> Lizmatic_away: ¿19189 f4ults .dbd|_on_top sasori_x_x dead lost liz flexgirl sillyhead i'm_drunk drunk_lisa lisa .dbd|sassytime .dbd|loser hide2 empty </3 failure faults deadnoble .!vnv!_nan
04:13 <Lizmatic_away> lmao :|
04:14 <Lizmatic_away> #aka sasori
04:14 <armabot> Lizmatic_away: ¿23746 dookey_shoe zuni~ the_dude z dbd|_s .dbd|_s sasoshe sasosaurus sasori ;;dlfpjksodpfj crude
04:17 <Flex> #aka savas
04:17 <armabot> Flex: ¿10248 savas
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04:55 <Lizmatic_away> #aka Lizmatic
04:55 <armabot> Lizmatic_away: I don't know anything about 'lizmatic'!
04:56 <Lizmatic_away> :D
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11:45 <akira_arma> what the #FUCK
11:45 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1214245705/Poopfreeze
11:46 <madmax> haha
11:46 <akira_arma> this is real :(
11:46 <akira_arma> I dont want to live on this planet anymore..
11:47 <madmax> frost it and toss it!
11:47 <madmax> and you get a free carry bag!
11:47 <akira_arma> if you want proof of degenration of western civilization..
11:47 <akira_arma> there it is
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13:01 <spidey> Localização <--- anyone know what that means? or what language it is xD
13:02 <epsy> :X
13:02 <epsy> localization ?
13:02 <epsy> er
13:02 <epsy> localisation ?
13:02 <epsy> sounds like
13:03 <z-man-work> Portugese, definitely.
13:03 <z-man-work> and epsy is right.
13:03 <spidey> location?
13:03 <spidey> o.O
13:03 <z-man-work> could also be.
13:03 <epsy> no
13:03 <epsy> what zman says. :)
13:04 <spidey> what about Senha?
13:06 <z-man-work> Either "password" or "forgotten" :)
13:06 <z-man-work> Probably forgotten.
13:08 <z-man-work> Ah, no: password.
13:08 <z-man-work> And Location.
13:08 <spidey> ty xD
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13:31 <madmax> hey, I missed my chance to shine in portuguese knowledge :(
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19:53 <ivantis> hey, did anyone else notice the forums icon thing changed?
19:54 <ivantis> kidanger: hey again
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19:59 <madmax> are you talking about the favicon? don't see no apple
19:59 <ivantis> hmm, maybe its just this stupid computer
20:00 <ivantis> well, for me its like the http://apple.com apple
20:00 <ivantis> clear your cache
20:03 <madmax> http://forums.armagetronad.net/favicon.ico
20:03 <ivantis> it shows up as a bunch of symbols, im using *sigh* IE
20:03 <madmax> your browser is confused
20:05 <ivantis> hey, open Internet Explorer (if ur on windows) and highlight wrtls avatar
20:05 <ivantis> hahaha
20:05 <ivantis> hey wrtlprnft:
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20:24 <ivantis> kidanger: you there?
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20:35 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: ;-)
20:36 <ivantis> hey, you gotta show me your trick to make images say things on highlighting in IE
20:37 <luke-jr> O.
20:37 <wrtlprnft> alpha transparency :-)
20:37 <ivantis> yeah, if it has a different background than the forums, it shows the text
20:37 <wrtlprnft> and in <ie7 it actually shows the text in red
20:38 <ivantis> ha
20:38 <ivantis> http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/18630589234837210babe6e.png
20:40 <ivantis> hey, up in canada, do you really get pelted with ice everyday?
20:40 <wrtlprnft> wtf.
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20:40 <ivantis> like in that picture
20:41 <epsy> lol
20:41 <ivantis> hey epsy
20:41 <wrtlprnft> guru3 drew that image :-)
20:41 <ivantis> i know
20:41 <ivantis> its in the animated blog thing
20:43 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: alpha transparency = audio⁇
20:44 <epsy> o_OO_o
20:45 <ivantis> hey: what does people here think of settings to change the color of deathzones and winzones?
20:45 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ?!
20:46 <ivantis> is that a terrible idea?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: to make matters even more confusing?
20:46 <ivantis> of course
20:46 <wrtlprnft> note that it'd have to be server side
20:46 <ivantis> yeah, im fooling around in gWinZone.cpp right now
20:47 <ivantis> i would use it to fool people into thinking death zones are win zones
20:47 <ivantis> mwa ha ha
20:47 <wrtlprnft> bleh
20:47 <ivantis> yes, im cruel
20:48 <wrtlprnft> then hack your server
20:48 <ivantis> i am, as we speak
20:48 <ivantis> i also added ZONE_ROT_SPEED
20:49 <ivantis> the rotation speed of zones
21:00 <kidanger> ivantis: I'm sry, i'm not there ^^, i need to go, cya
21:00 <kidanger> gl
21:00 <ivantis> cya
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21:17 <Lucifer> http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL256586320080625?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0  <--- one step closer to Planet of the Apes
21:18 <ivantis> yay! im doing make for colored zones
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21:21 <ivantis> hey, does anyone have a client on their computer right now?
21:21 <ivantis> and willing to test something for me
21:21 <epsy> #last --from kidanger --with I'm sry, i'm not there --nolimit
21:21 <armabot> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
21:21 <epsy> oh
21:22 <ivantis> whats the point? do a page search of wrtls log from that day
21:22 <epsy> getting how many times he said that lately
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21:23 <ivantis> o
21:23 <epsy> :þ
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21:26 <ivantis> hey, does anyone have a client on their computer right now?
21:27 <ivantis> and willing to test something for me
21:27 <ivantis> pleasee?
21:28 <ivantis> people are so mean
21:28 <madmax> yes, yes they are
21:28 <hoax> footballs on innit
21:28 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: i do
21:29 <ivantis> you will
21:29 <ivantis> ?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> where?
21:29 <hoax> haha max, yes, yes they do :P (re hospital)
21:29 <hoax> armabots a lil slow :|
21:29 <wrtlprnft> as always
21:29 <ivantis> custom connect: ivantis.us.to port 4534
21:29 <madmax> it's only when you talk here on /query it
21:30 <madmax> *or
21:31 <epsy> indeed, you messed something up :P
21:32 <epsy> or not
21:32 <ivantis> oops
21:37 <ivantis> say epsy, you timerhickdown?
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21:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I read ivantis's "say something" as audial
21:49 <ivantis> ??
21:49 <pippijn> http://osnews.com/story/19921/Full_Text:_an_Epic_Bill_Gates_e-Mail_Rant <- brilliant
21:52 <epsy> ivantis, maybe in .2.8.3 too
21:52 <ivantis> im still using just .2.8.2 client
21:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, so this was epsy on that server
21:54 <epsy> are non-auth servers aware of stealthmode ?
21:54 <ivantis> gah! i forgot, where are apache pages kept by default? /something/www right?
21:54 <epsy> /var/www
21:54 <ivantis> knew it
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21:54 <wrtlprnft> stealthmode?
21:54 <wrtlprnft> oh
21:55 <wrtlprnft> i think they aren't
21:57 <ivantis> ok, put the file at http://ivantis.us.to/gWinZone.cpp into src/tron/ on a sty server
21:57 <epsy> er, strange..
21:57 <ivantis> what?
21:57 <epsy> that part was already wiped out
21:57 <epsy> the one that caused the comma to appear
21:57 <ivantis> what part?
21:58 <ivantis> what?
21:58 <epsy> in /players :)
21:58 <ivantis> ???
21:58 <epsy> 1: wrtlprnft |mbc| ( , Administrator )
21:59 <ivantis> not in sty
21:59 <ivantis> its if youre an idiot too
21:59 <epsy> :X
21:59 <ivantis> 1: player ( idiot , Administrator )
22:00 <epsy> what codebase are you using ivantis ?
22:03 <epsy> sty+ct .. something else?
22:09 <epsy> #ping
22:09 <armabot> pong
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22:15 <ivantis> oh
22:15 <ivantis> sry
22:15 <ivantis> i was eating
22:15 <ivantis> just 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
22:16 <ivantis> it wouldnt be that hard to put the stuff into sty+ct
22:17 <ivantis> oh, i should have added colors for sty-balls
22:17 <ivantis> white is boring
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22:19  * epsy now waits 2 minutes for launchpad to display ePlayer.cpp
22:20 <ivantis> ?
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22:29 <ivantis> hey epsy, will you come back and test it again? i changed something
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22:32 <ivantis> wrtlprnft?
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22:33 <epsy> sry, can't right now
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22:33 <ivantis> o ok
22:34 <epsy> i would be laggying flashyyy to death :p
22:37 <ivantis> quick: whats a styball map?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> ivantis: i'm online now.
22:45 <ivantis> aha
22:57 <epsy> ivantis, i've got some :P
22:58 <ivantis> oh
22:58 <ivantis> nvm
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23:04 <ivantis> ok, i g2g
23:05 <ivantis> later
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01:14 <Monkey_arma> team no rubber!
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02:08 <madmax> hmm, my computer is sick
02:09 <K-Yo> give him pills?
02:10 <madmax> I think I'll try that, yes
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02:10 <ct|kyle> what is is pucking
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02:15 <madmax> my powerbook's PMU, aka power management unit, is deciding to shutdown... hum, randomly
02:24 <tramshed> thats shitty
02:25 <ct|kyle> blown capacitor?
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02:27 <Monkey_arma> PMU?
02:28 <Monkey_arma> is that some chip on the mobo?
02:28 <ct|kyle> #google define PMU
02:28 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.26 seconds: Koders Code Search: pmu .h - C - GPL: <http://www.koders.com/c/fid9F34D2227C7750B0DD09F9AA5E4715D80ABFC14A.aspx>; Page 1 Page 0 11-26-07 Summary of Activities Vahid Madani ...: <http://www.naspi.org/meetings/workgroup/2008_march/task_teams/pstt_report_madani.pdf>; Partnership Evaluation of PMU -Interlife: (3 more messages)
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02:29 <Monkey_arma> #remove annoying and confusing google command from armabot
02:29 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: The command "remove" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "remove".
02:30 <madmax> yeah, logic board
02:30 <Monkey_arma> k
02:30 <ct|kyle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Unit
02:30 <Monkey_arma> hehe better
02:30 <Flex> it's the graphic card madmax
02:30 <madmax> ...no it's not
02:31 <Monkey_arma> #add nice simple wikipedia comand to armabot
02:31 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, News, Praise, Quote, and RSS plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
02:31 <Flex> lol i know
02:31 <Flex> bad joke..
02:31 <madmax> pretty bad :/
02:31 <ct|kyle> #googole site:wikipedia.org pmu
02:31 <Flex> you're the one saying i blame everything on the graphic card
02:31 <ct|kyle> #google site:wikipedia.org pmu
02:31 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.12 seconds: Power Management Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Unit>; PMU 18 scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMU_18_scandal>; Progressive Muslim Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_Union>; PMU - Wikipedia, the free (2 more messages)
02:31 <Flex> felt i'd amuse you
02:31 <madmax> ah
02:32 <madmax> right, I didn't remember that
02:32 <Monkey_arma> #alias list
02:32 <Flex> no worries, i'll take my humour elsewhere!
02:32 <madmax> okay
02:32 <ct|kyle> #alais add wiki "google site:wikipedia.org @1"
02:32 <Flex> hey kyle
02:32 <Flex> how's it going
02:32 <ct|kyle> oi Flex
02:33 <ct|kyle> #alias add wiki "google site:wikipedia.org @1"
02:33 <madmax> Monkey_arma: '#list alias'
02:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:33 <Monkey_arma> #athx
02:33 <Monkey_arma> #list alias
02:33 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monologue, roulette, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, bong, botsnack, bounce, bug, bye, bzr, cat, cfg, cfg2, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dog, dong, (4 more messages)
02:33 <ct|kyle> #wiki pmu
02:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.01 seconds: Power Management Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Unit>; PMU 18 scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMU_18_scandal>; Progressive Muslim Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_Union>; PMU - Wikipedia, the free (2 more messages)
02:33 <ct|kyle> cool
02:33 <Monkey_arma> kyle you are a naughty boy
02:33 <madmax> I think there was one for that already
02:33 <madmax> #help aawiki
02:33 <armabot> madmax: (aawiki <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:http://wiki.armagetronad.net/ $*".
02:33 <ct|kyle> #lock wiki
02:33 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
02:33 <madmax> ooh
02:34 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia
02:34 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.13 seconds: Main Page - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/>; Shijiazhuang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shijiazhuang>; Jesse Owens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Owens>; Federated States of Micronesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
02:34 <ct|kyle> ah ya :D
02:34 <madmax> heh yeah, that one
02:35 <ct|kyle> #help \wikipedia
02:35 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: There is no command "\wikipedia".
02:35 <ct|kyle> #help wikipedia
02:35 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: There is no command "wikipedia".
02:35 <madmax> lol
02:35 <ct|kyle> heh
02:35 <madmax> #wikipedia PMU
02:35 <armabot> madmax: Search took 0.14 seconds: Power Management Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Unit>; PMU 18 scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMU_18_scandal>; Progressive Muslim Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_Union>; PMU - Wikipedia, the free (2 more messages)
02:35 <madmax> #alias remove wiki
02:35 <armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
02:35 <ct|kyle> #list wikipedia
02:35 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: 'wikipedia' is not a valid plugin.
02:36 <ct|kyle> #help wikipedia
02:36 <armabot> ct|kyle: (wikipedia <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*".
02:36 <madmax> what the
02:36 <ct|kyle> i know
02:36 <ct|kyle> a shitty thing pidgin did
02:36 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipedia echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$*"
02:36 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:36 <ct|kyle> i pasted it first time in formatted text
02:37 <Monkey_arma> #wikipedia pmu
02:37 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=pmu
02:37 <madmax> you just killed the wikipedia command
02:37 <ct|kyle> and for some reason pidgin now sends formatting marks to IRC
02:37 <madmax> congrats
02:37 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia pmu
02:37 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=pmu
02:37 <Monkey_arma> wrong madmax i just fixed it
02:38 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipedia "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*"
02:38 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:38 <madmax> are you talking about the spammy output?
02:38 <Monkey_arma> kyle wtf
02:39 <Monkey_arma> my command provides one single link to the exact place you want to get to
02:39 <madmax> this starts to look like a wikipedia edit war
02:39 <Monkey_arma> not loads of crap
02:39 <madmax> spammy commands are supposed to be queried anyway :P
02:39 <Monkey_arma> fuck spammy commmands....
02:40 <Monkey_arma> fine..
02:40 <madmax> right, gnight
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02:41 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$*"
02:41 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:42 <Monkey_arma> ct|kyle "less is more"
02:45 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: yours does not work
02:45 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipedia "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*"
02:45 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipedia "google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*"
02:45 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:46 <Monkey_arma> kyle wtf you are wrong
02:46 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey gmu
02:46 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=gmu
02:46 <ct|kyle> well what i put is what it has been forever
02:47 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey pmu
02:47 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=pmu
02:47 <Monkey_arma> check that link
02:47 <ct|kyle> i like direct links :D
02:47 <Monkey_arma> see how much better that is than spamming this channel with shite
02:48 <Monkey_arma> just for you.....
02:48 <ct|kyle> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:48 <ct|kyle> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:49 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=armagetron advanced
02:49 <ct|kyle> see does not work
02:49 <Monkey_arma> er wrong
02:49 <Monkey_arma> its fucking awesome
02:49 <Monkey_arma> that works
02:50 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search='$*'"
02:50 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:50 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:50 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search='armagetron advanced'
02:53 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$@"
02:53 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:53 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:53 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$@
02:53 <ct|kyle> lol
02:53 <ct|kyle> spammer
02:53 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$#"
02:53 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:53 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:53 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$#
02:54 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@1_@2_@3_@4_@5"
02:54 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@1_@2_@3_@4_@5"
02:54 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:54 <ct|kyle> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:54 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=armagetron_advanced___
02:54 <Monkey_arma> yes i thought of doing that but its not right
02:54 <ct|kyle> #help lastseen
02:54 <armabot> ct|kyle: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
02:54 <Monkey_arma> what if there are 6 words
02:55 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s"
02:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:55 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:55 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s
02:55 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s$*"
02:55 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:55 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:55 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%sarmagetron advanced
02:55 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5"
02:55 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:55 <ct|kyle> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:55 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=armagetron+advanced+++
02:56 <ct|kyle> well tried
02:56 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@*"
02:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:57 <ct|kyle> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
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02:57 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@*
02:57 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$*"
02:57 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:58 <Monkey_arma> it seems the only way is to do:
02:59 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$1_$2_$3_$4_$5_$6_$7_$8_$9"
02:59 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:59 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
02:59 <armabot> Monkey_arma: (wikipediamonkey <an alias, 9 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=$1_$2_$3_$4_$5_$6_$7_$8_$9".
03:00 <Monkey_arma> #alias add wikipediamonkey echo "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=@1_@2_@3_@4_@5_@6_@7_@8_@9"
03:00 <armabot> Monkey_arma: The operation succeeded.
03:00 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey armagetron advanced
03:00 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=armagetron_advanced_______
03:00 <Monkey_arma> that will do
03:03 <Flex> why are you guys doing this
03:04 <Monkey_arma> #wikipedia flex
03:04 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey flex
03:04 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=flex________
03:05 <Monkey_arma> see how much faster mine is..
03:05 <Monkey_arma> #list alias
03:05 <armabot> Monkey_arma: monologue, roulette, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, blah, bong, botsnack, bounce, bug, bye, bzr, cat, cfg, cfg2, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, cookie, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dog, dong, (4 more messages)
03:05 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:05 <armabot> Monkey_arma: donkey, dorka, eliza, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fastfood, finc, fink, flex, flex's, flex'sepitaph, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, laddle10, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lock, log, log, ls, (3 more messages)
03:05 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:05 <armabot> Monkey_arma: luke, lukejr, lukejrservers, lukejrwork, lukejrworks, m, mail, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, monkey, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, nano, new, night, noob, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, p4, pacman, peek, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, ring, rou, (2 more messages)
03:05 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:05 <armabot> Monkey_arma: roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, r‭oulette, sd, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, serverscores, si, sing, skill, slap, smoke, spam, speed, ss, stalk, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, test, testing, thank, the, thing, tst4, tst5, tstservers, uname, unlock, ur, vanhayes, w, wanna, wannafight?, wc, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, (1 more message)
03:05 <Flex> lol
03:05 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:05 <armabot> Monkey_arma: where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wikipediamonkey, wild, wing, wisdom, wp, wrtlprnft, ww, x, xd, ying, ys, and ‭
03:07 <Monkey_arma> in fact kyles has failed there
03:12 <ct|kyle> #wiki flex
03:12 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia flex
03:12 <Flex> stop using me as a test subject!
03:12 <Monkey_arma> there are some cool quotes:
03:13 <Monkey_arma> The flex manual contains details of how flex works
03:13 <Monkey_arma> The description for flex as given by the flex manual:  "flex is a tool
03:13 <Monkey_arma> note how kyle has *phailed*
03:13 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia flex
03:13 <Flex> stop it........ :(((((((
03:14 <ct|kyle> oi Flex
03:14 <Monkey_arma> #wikipediamonkey flex
03:14 <Flex> kyle!
03:14 <armabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=flex________
03:14 <Monkey_arma> ^^
03:14 <ct|kyle> Flex:
03:14 <ct|kyle> #help wikipedia
03:14 <Flex> you're making me cry
03:14 <armabot> ct|kyle: (wikipedia <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for ""google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*"".
03:14 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia wtf
03:14 <ct|kyle> why Flex
03:14 <Flex> i dunno
03:15 <ct|kyle> lol Flex
03:15 <Flex> how are you kyle
03:15 <ct|kyle> yes Flex
03:15 <Flex> long time no see/speak/hear/other
03:15 <ct|kyle> i know Flex, i have been busy
03:15 <Flex> oh.. what with?
03:15 <Monkey_arma> #wikipedia pmu
03:16 <ct|kyle> #alias add wikipedia google site:http://en.wikipedia.org/ $*
03:16 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
03:16 <Monkey_arma> #wikipedia pmu
03:16 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Search took 0.11 seconds: Power Management Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Unit>; PMU 18 scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMU_18_scandal>; Progressive Muslim Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Muslim_Union>; PMU - Wikipedia, the free (2 more messages)
03:16 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia flex
03:16 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.13 seconds: Adobe Flex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flex>; flex lexical analyser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_lexical_analyser>; Flex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex>; Flexible-fuel vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
03:16 <ct|kyle> dam pidgin
03:16 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:16 <armabot> Monkey_arma: encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMU>; Viterbi decoder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viterbi_decoder>; Police MRT Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_MRT_Unit>; Synchrophasor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrophasor>; Premarin - Wikipedia, the free (1 more message)
03:16 <Monkey_arma> #more
03:16 <armabot> Monkey_arma: encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premarin>; Michael Muhammad Knight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Muhammad_Knight>; Central Air Data Computer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Air_Data_Computer>
03:16 <Monkey_arma> i mean that is a pisstake
03:17 <Flex> I prefer to watch a movie in bed or laying down, but if i lay down i prefer to just sleep..
03:17 <Flex> but right now, i want to watch something and just relax..
03:17 <Flex> rather then sitting upright as i'm doing now..
03:23 <Monkey_arma> flex have you seen this gauntlet n9?
03:23 <Flex> no, what's that?
03:23 <Monkey_arma> its no rubber crazy tronners
03:23  * Monkey_arma spits
03:24 <Flex> oh cool
03:24 <Flex> want to play? :p
03:24 <Monkey_arma> its not cool
03:24 <Monkey_arma> its evil
03:24 <Flex> why..
03:24 <Monkey_arma> crazy tronners is evil
03:24 <Flex> why..
03:24 <Monkey_arma> !
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03:34 <|havok|> ello everyone
03:35 <|havok|> ...
03:35 <|havok|> anyone here?
03:35 <hoax> yello
03:37 <hoax> ?
03:37 <Monkey_arma> hi
03:37 <Monkey_arma> are you new?
03:37 <hoax> dont listen to Monkey_arma he preys on new kids
03:38 <hoax> after their nice new pc's
03:39 <|havok|> no I'm not new
03:39 <|havok|> this is my first time comming to this room
03:40 <|havok|> but I'm not new to the game :D
03:40 <hoax> where you play?
03:41 <|havok|> my clan server
03:42 <Monkey_arma> which is?
03:42 <|havok|> [- ¡DF! >>>>>>>>>>SOS<<<<<<<<<< !DF¡ -]
03:42 <Monkey_arma> oh noes
03:44 <|havok|> wut?
03:45 <|havok|> hey can anyone help me with my clan channel?
03:45 <hoax> how
03:47 <Monkey_arma> sure if you tell us how
03:48 <Flex> how can you help with a channel?
03:48 <Flex> setting it up?
03:48 <Monkey_arma> yes i guess so
03:48 <Flex> that's how.. i answered it for you both
03:51 <|havok|> well, making a topic and whatnot
03:52 <|havok|> regestering your channel
03:52 <|havok|> and other stuff
03:52 <Monkey_arma> yes ok
03:52 <|havok|> #SoldiersOfSin
04:05 <|havok|> ok
04:06 <Monkey_arma> |havok| ok so read those then we can help you here another day
04:06 <|havok|> kk
04:06 <|havok|> I will
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05:21 <Treefire> Hey guys... /login password doesn't work
05:21 <Treefire> it returns "LOGIN" unknown command
05:22 <Treefire> can it be done on a hosted game?
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07:34 <ivantis> XEROX MENU DOWN UP AUTO * POWER Esc Help Undo Redo New Open Close Reply Fwd Send Spell Save Print PrtScn Pause F Lock Microsoft ~ ! @ # $ % ^  & * ( ) _ + Backspace Home End Num Lock / * - Tab Q W E R T Y U I O P [ ] \ A S D F G H J K L ; ' Z X C V B N M , . / Shift
07:35 <ivantis> luke-jr: are you hosting a server called Magnie Magnie World?
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13:11 <akira_arma> Lucifer!
13:11 <akira_arma> When do you play arma again? ;)
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14:49 <Monkey_arma> flaaashhhy
14:52 <flashyy> Monkey_arma :)
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16:39 <akira_arma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
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16:50 <akira_arma> max
16:50 <akira_arma> !
16:50 <madmax> akira
16:50 <akira_arma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
16:50 <madmax> !
16:50 <akira_arma> watch this :)
16:52 <Monkey_arma> #tea
16:52 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): canadaDRY567, Inferno, Longball|MBC, rugkei, ~"XzL.Punish, ¦×¦ Raiden
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16:55 <GofG> luke-jr: having trouble setting up a server, was refered to you. can you help?
16:56 <GofG> anyone?
16:56 <GofG> getting the "british english not found" error
16:56 <GofG> permissions are fine, files exist
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16:56 <madmax> akira_arma: another hint of western collapse? :-)
16:56 <akira_arma> xD
16:57 <akira_arma> :)
16:57 <GofG> lol
16:57 <akira_arma> the day of the inferno is not far
16:57 <akira_arma> :)
16:57 <GofG> so uh
16:57 <GofG> yeah
16:57 <GofG> what does i do
16:57 <madmax> someonce came up with that problem some time ago
16:57 <GofG> yeah
16:57 <madmax> *someone
16:57 <GofG> what was the fix?
16:58 <madmax> don't remember... keep annoying luke-jr
16:58 <GofG> luke-jr:
16:58 <GofG> answer me
16:58 <richjkl> lol
16:58 <richjkl> HE DEMANDS IT
16:58 <madmax> bbl
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17:12 <luke-jr> GofG: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
17:13 <GofG> luke-jr: thank you!
17:15 <GofG> uh
17:15 <GofG> luke-jr:
17:15 <GofG> i kinda
17:15 <GofG> wasn't asking for hosting
17:15 <luke-jr> oh well
17:16 <GofG> uh
17:16 <GofG> lol
17:17 <GofG> luke-jr: do you know how to fix that problem though
17:17 <luke-jr> I certainly don't provide gratis private tutoring services.
17:21 <GofG> Well uh
17:21 <GofG> I figured seeing as this is a known bug
17:21 <GofG> that has been fixed in the past
17:21 <GofG> the knowledge of how to fix it would be as opensource as the program itself.
17:22 <GofG> Evidently not
17:22 <luke-jr> well, if it's a fixed past bug, then that means you're using an obsolete version, which means you should upgrade
17:23 <GofG> by fixed i meant
17:23 <GofG> "there is a fix"
17:23 <GofG> not one that has been implemented
17:23 <luke-jr> if you know of a fix, why are you asking me at all?
17:24 <GofG> I don't know of a fix. I know that a fix exists because I have seen threads on the forums where people have had this problem and then later their server worked
17:24 <luke-jr> I suggest asking one of them, and posting the answer so others who encounter it also find out.
17:24 <luke-jr> I don't think I've ever encountered this problem.
17:25 <GofG> Ah
17:25 <GofG> You could have said that
17:26 <luke-jr> well, I figured you wanted me to spend hours helping you figure out why it wasn't working.
17:26 <luke-jr> which I don't have time for ☺
17:27 <noob13> o
17:27 <luke-jr> actually, the first thing I would try is deleting the config dirs
17:27 <luke-jr> like ~/.armagetronad
17:27 <luke-jr> anyhow, gtg
17:27 <luke-jr> (moving them might be safer in case you have important info in there)
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18:04 <richjkl> Hi guys so I just compiled this server and it seems to have gone fine...except when I run armagetron-dedicated it just sits there and doesn't seem to do anything
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18:05 <richjkl> I have it configured to communicate with the master server, but it doesn't show up? Am I just being impatient? Is it supposed to say anything?
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18:07 <akira_arma> #armaservers
18:07 <armabot> akira_arma: This data is 34 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ¦Ã¦.Team.Sumo.Server (9/16), -='Wanted Clan Rotating DF Server'=- (8/8), Norm's Place (8/12), ID* (7/16), Wild West  =Sumo= (6/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), >>> FAST TRACK RELOADED (VERY HIGH SPEED) <<< (6/8), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (2 more messages)
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18:30 <akira_arma> #tea
18:30 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:49 <epsy> ;tea
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21:20 <akira_arma> #tea
21:20 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): <<~luAp~>>, Bonzaii, Funky Gorilla, Longball|MBC, noob13 (noob13@forums), Puuquie, RAm
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21:48 <xfroggy> #tea
21:48 <armabot> xfroggy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:48 <xfroggy> :S
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22:23 <madmax> richjkl: tried port forwarding and such?...
22:23 <richjkl> It's my own server...there are no ports to forward
22:25 <madmax> open UDP port too I guess?
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22:39 <Lucifer> richjkl: it can take some time for a server to show up in the master server, too
22:39 <richjkl> That's what I was starting to think...I'll just leave it sitting for a while
22:40 <Monkey_arma> richjkl do you have a server_info.cfg file as well as settings_custom.cfg?
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22:41 <Monkey_arma> try adding SERVER_IP to it (the IP of your server)
22:41 <Monkey_arma> also, what version are you running?
22:41 <Monkey_arma> (server not client)
22:42 <Lucifer> er, all that does is tell it which interface to listen for connections on, by default it should listen on all interfaces
22:42 <Lucifer> which, if he has multiple network cards and there's some rare situation going on, could actually matter (the reason we have those config items :)  )
22:42 <Monkey_arma> ^^
22:43 <Lucifer> anyway, make sure you have any ports forwarded that are needed, get someone from outside to custom connect to your server to test, and then just wait to see if it shows up in the master server
22:43 <Monkey_arma> yes we can custom connect
22:43 <Monkey_arma> you arent the first with this issue btw
22:43 <Lucifer> also make sure you changed SERVER_NAME, because it can be very hard to distinguish "Unnamed Server" in a list of them :)
22:44 <Monkey_arma> and SERVER_PORT (i hope you already have that)
22:44 <Lucifer> but yeah, there isn't one master server anymore, there's 4, and it can take some time for the new server to get listed on all of them, even though it uploads its information to all of them
22:44 <richjkl> yeah, I've changed server_name and server_ip, and left server_port default
22:44 <Lucifer> did you check the output from the server for the lines that say "Connecting to master #" (where # is a number from 1-4)?
22:45 <Lucifer> if those lines are there, you can just wait.  If they're not there, you have a problem.
22:45 <Lucifer> you did set TALK_TO_MASTER to 1, right?
22:45 <richjkl> The server runs and doesn't say anything, and yes
22:45 <Lucifer> hmmmm, we had someone else who'd set TALK_TO_MASTER correctly and we couldn't get the server to talk to the master
22:45  * Lucifer is curious what's going on, but stumped in that situation
22:46 <Monkey_arma> well the  first thing to do is reinstall, if you have tried everything else
22:46 <richjkl> It could be because of the network interfaces like you said earlier...I'm connected through eth1...does it default to eth0? Does that matter?
22:46 <Monkey_arma> let me custom connect to your server first
22:46 <Lucifer> it defaults to "ANY", and in Linux, that usually means it binds to all, iirc
22:47 <richjkl> ah
22:47 <Monkey_arma> well your IP is specific to your eth interface
22:47 <Lucifer> some linuxes, anyway
22:47 <richjkl> on debian, if it makes a difference
22:47 <Monkey_arma> <--debian for 5 years
22:47 <Monkey_arma> not now tho :P
22:47 <Lucifer> yeah, so if you have more than one interface, you might want to set that to the IP address for the interface that's actually connected to the internet :)
22:47 <Lucifer> <---- Kubuntu for a year
22:48 <Monkey_arma> what is your IP? i will try custom connect
22:48 <Monkey_arma> and port
22:48 <noob13> >P
22:49 <Monkey_arma> hey 13
22:50 <richjkl> 216.145.22.82 4534
22:51 <Monkey_arma> ok I cant connect so its not a master server issue
22:51 <Monkey_arma> guess #1 you have a router and/or firewall/packet filter
22:51 <richjkl> actually wait you wouldn't have been able to connect right there because I was fiddling with the config, lol
22:52 <Monkey_arma> ok reload your server
22:52 <richjkl> yeah, did
22:52 <Monkey_arma> are you on it now?
22:53 <Monkey_arma> tell me when you are and i will try to join too via custom connect
22:53 <richjkl> eh
22:53 <richjkl> I can't connect to it
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22:54 <richjkl> I'll ask what sort of filters are on
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00:21 <xfroggy> #tea
00:21 <armabot> xfroggy: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): <V>23, nikita
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01:19  * madmax just saw Sicko
01:19 <madmax> I really didn't know the US medical system sucked so much
01:21 <Monkey_arma> anyone for no rubber or cafe?
01:21 <madmax> sure
01:21 <madmax> assuming this thing won't suddenly crash
01:21 <madmax> er, shutdown
01:22 <madmax> café?
01:24 <Monkey_arma> im on no rubber at mo
01:24 <Monkey_arma> #tea
01:24 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): madmax (madmax@forums)
01:24 <Monkey_arma> :(
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01:55 <madmax> #tea
01:55 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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02:50 <Monkey_arma> hi
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02:51 <Monkey_arma> hi oO
02:51 <xfroggy> #tea
02:51 <armabot> xfroggy: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): -_SC_- DRUG6, Flex, Lackadaisical, madmax, Monkey, SuBlImInAl.FreQ
02:53 <ct|kyle> #kill xfroggy
02:53 <armabot> xfroggy will die on Sat Jun 28 02:53:04 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by ct|kyle
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03:59 <Flex> ct|kyle]
03:59 <Flex> ct|kyle
04:00 <ct|kyle> Flex:
04:00 <Flex> ct|kyle
04:00 <Monkey_arma> ct|flex
04:00 <Flex> ct|kyle
04:00 <Lucifer> #send Flex a nuclear warhead
04:00 <Monkey_arma> kyle
04:00 <armabot> I have sent a nuclear warhead to Flex, it should arrive shortly.
04:00 <Flex> #send Lucifer a kiss
04:00 <armabot> I have sent a kiss to Lucifer, it should arrive shortly.
04:01 <Flex> ct|monkey
04:01 <Flex> #send hoax a pat on the bum
04:01 <armabot> I have sent a pat on the bum to hoax, it should arrive shortly.
04:01 <hoax> oohh
04:01 <hoax> kinkeh
04:02 <hoax> wrtlprnft u there
04:03 <hoax> me & him on completely diff time zones i swear
04:03 <Flex> he's usually around morning times
04:03 <Flex> that's uk normal morning time
04:03 <hoax> lol thats why then
04:03 <Flex> so what time did you wake up today
04:03 <hoax> ye the bastads up at like 7am
04:04 <hoax> 4pm
04:04 <Flex> i got up at 12
04:04 <Flex> lol
04:04  * hoax rolls eyes
04:04 <Flex> didn't even feel sleepy
04:04 <hoax> stuff to do tomorrow so boof
04:04 <Flex> man my sleep is totally fucking going away
04:09 <Flex> hey Lucifer, i know you're there homo!
04:09 <Flex> talk!
04:09 <Flex> so what you wearin?
04:11 <Monkey_arma> flex ok tomorrow im getting the ATI 9200 and the PSU
04:12 <Flex> and if you don't?!
04:13 <Flex> if you don't you have to say biggie smalls 3 times infront of the mirror!
04:14 <Flex> ct|kyle, having fun?
04:14 <Flex> :p
04:14 <ct|kyle> Flex: ?
04:14 <Flex> what you doing?
04:14 <ct|kyle> spectating on CTWF
04:14 <Flex> oh
04:14 <Flex> why?
04:14 <ct|kyle> idiot twas there
04:15 <Flex> what actually qualifies there as an idiot
04:15 <Flex> :p
04:15 <hoax> DCC SEND nascar ftl kyle
04:16 <ct|kyle> spammer
04:16 <hoax> :D
04:16 <Flex> nothing can compare the dice and swear...
04:16 <Flex> missing out words but whateva
04:19 <ct|kyle> hoax: you should have done that on #firefox on release day
04:20 <hoax> lol ye
04:20 <hoax> next time
04:20 <hoax> as long as it aint on fn
04:20 <ct|kyle> only a few weeks away from 3.1
04:20 <ct|kyle> ya it is
04:20 <hoax> fk that then
04:20 <ct|kyle> wll you could on mozillas
04:21 <Monkey_arma> http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=153&card2=69
04:21 <Monkey_arma> well worth me getting the 9200
04:21 <Monkey_arma> also ati drivers are open so better
04:21 <Flex> got any benchmarks?
04:21 <Monkey_arma> no
04:22 <Monkey_arma> maybe idk
04:22 <Flex> luke said the ati drivers are all good above x800
04:22 <Flex> so you're fine
04:22 <hoax> haha i used to have a fx5200
04:22 <hoax> fk ati
04:22 <Flex> yeah fuck ati
04:22 <hoax> brassss drivers
04:25 <Flex> hmm where is luke..
04:25 <Lucifer> luke's house got flooded
04:25 <Lucifer> jesus didn't like him after all
04:25 <Flex> jeez
04:25 <Flex> really?
04:25 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: how is the robot coming
04:26 <Lucifer> I don't know, I just noticed the floods hitting Missouri
04:26 <Flex> damn, that's horrible..
04:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's not.  I've had hundreds of promises of help that have yet to materialize
04:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you ready to start working?
04:27 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i have no time at this time of year
04:27 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i work about 80 + hours a week from june through august
04:28 <Lucifer> well, I've blown it off.  I tried like hell to call everybody on the phone a few weeks ago, and when I kept not getting answers, or promises of "next week", I finally gave up
04:28 <Lucifer> so I've been doing other things the last few weeks, and I'll probably pick it up again after the summer's over
04:28 <Lucifer> maybe sooner, never can tell
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04:30 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: still are too many problems that need solved from my standpoint anyway
04:30 <Lucifer> yeah, well, we can't solve any of them if nobody works on it
04:31 <ct|kyle> yes but none of them are really layed out to work on
04:31 <Lucifer> it's not just you, to be honest I gave up on most of the early guys pretty early.  I'm mostly bitching about people who have told me to my face that they'll have time, they'll work hard, and then disappeared
04:31 <Lucifer> what?  You want someone to just come and hand you a template for this?
04:32 <Lucifer> anyways, now that it's dark, I need to test drive my new headlight
04:32 <ct|kyle> no but i don't see why you keep wanting to build before all or most problems are solved. if we can't solve the potentual problems
04:33 <Lucifer> which problems have to be solved still before we can build something?
04:33 <Lucifer> I said from the beginning that I want to build *many* robots, and develop incrementally, tapping the open source model
04:33 <Lucifer> I absolutely do NOT want to work only in simulations and on paper, trying to solve every problem before we get a single wheel
04:34 <ct|kyle> i must have missed that point
04:34 <Lucifer> we need prototypes, if we want people to ultimately fund the big stuff, we need to show them that we can do it, and that means having a record of successful robots behind us
04:35 <Lucifer> and from these prototypes will fall out potentially commercially successful models, which makes the project even more attractive to actual investors, rather than just sponsors
04:35 <ct|kyle> we raised $500+ with just showing progress for our supermilege car team
04:36 <Lucifer> I would honestly expect the first $500-$1000 to come directly from the teammembers :)
04:36 <Lucifer> hell, I had a guy say he'd buy 3 CPUs for the motherboards, then disappeared off the face of the planet
04:36 <ct|kyle> heh
04:36 <Lucifer> it's like that.  "I'll be ready to work really hard and do lots of stuff in just a couple of days", then nothing, they're gone
04:37 <Flex> hoax, once oil runs out this will be the new auto trader:
04:37 <Flex> http://www.webfilehost.com/images/gas-prices.php
04:37 <Lucifer> I'd rather people just tell me to go fuck myself, they don't want to help
04:37 <Lucifer> anyway, I need to go ride my bike a little bit and see if the headlight I put on it is worth what I paid
04:37 <Flex> hf!
04:45 <Monkey_arma> bed....gn
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04:46 <hoax> Flex, lol
04:46 <ct|kyle> hoax: is suck a hoax
04:46 <ct|kyle> #wikipedia Flex
04:46 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.13 seconds: Adobe Flex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flex>; flex lexical analyser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_lexical_analyser>; Flex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex>; Ford Flex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
04:46 <Flex> mercs pimping the blonde breed
04:47 <ct|kyle> :D
04:47 <hoax> ct|kyle, ?
04:47 <Flex> yo what was that documentary regarding bill gates
04:47 <Flex> can't remember if it was on channel 4 or bbc
04:47 <ct|kyle> people are crazy in my city lighting and fireworks at the same time
04:48 <hoax> tson iplayer
04:48 <Flex> what are they celebrating?
04:48 <Flex> tried looking there
04:48 <Flex> what's it called
04:48 <hoax> they lost 2lbs
04:49 <ct|kyle> the celebrate Independence day the full week before (they just like setting them off)
04:49 <Flex> can't find that program on iplayer
04:49 <ct|kyle> though it is not legal for them to be setting off fireworks this early
04:51 <Flex> haha, that reminds me of that comedy paraody with those fake terrorists acting like their firework is a missile
04:52 <Flex> hoax
04:52 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jvVGa-HXYQ
04:52 <Flex> lol
04:53 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1NCvxw8d8&NR=1
04:53 <hoax> rofl
04:54 <hoax> check this shit
04:54 <hoax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKYpUo18wU
04:54 <hoax> got banned
04:54 <Flex> funny stuff
04:57 <Flex> lol
04:57 <Flex> this version is better
04:57 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk6LuqUYdo0&feature=related
04:58 <hoax> haha
04:59 <Flex> arff
04:59 <Flex> allow that gay shit
05:00 <Flex> straight home from work sweet cheeks
05:00 <Flex> that you and monkey in the future hoax!
05:03 <hoax> in his dreams
05:04 <Flex> ok i'm going to run before i end up going to bed at 6
05:04 <Flex> gn
05:06 <ct|kyle> night Flex
05:20 <hoax> ciao
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14:35 <akira_arma> #tea
14:35 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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15:11 <luke-jr> http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10369135
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16:30 <akira_arma> #tea
16:30 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): <<~luAp~>>, <T¤$afari$Kater, Frozen Infernal, Gerard, killerbees19, Silver, ß|AoS|, ~*GW*~SpeeD, ¦×¦ Raiden
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20:44 <ivantis> anyone there?
20:45 <ivantis> does anyone (if anyone) know what the IP 224.0.0.251 means?
20:45 <akira_arma> #tea
20:45 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): <T¤$afari$Kater, <º}}}><, anoternoob|AoS|, djtechnick, Klosinho-ROGER, MaZuffeR, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ¦×¦epsy
20:46 <ivantis> how fast
20:46 <akira_arma> [20:06]	<ivantis>	does anyone (if anyone) know what the IP 224.0.0.251 means?
20:46 <akira_arma> ?????
20:46 <epsy> ivantis, does IP hacve meanings ?
20:47 <ivantis> #sd -v space-lab
20:47 <ivantis> come on!
20:47 <armabot> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (0/8):
20:47 <akira_arma> lol
20:47 <akira_arma> it was an AD
20:47 <akira_arma> sneaky
20:47 <akira_arma> #slap ivantis
20:47 <armabot> akira_arma slaps ivantis for being a raving moron.
20:47 <akira_arma> #send ivantis bomb
20:47 <ivantis> idk
20:47 <ivantis> i was doing tcpdump
20:47 <ivantis> and it had a bunch of requests from that
20:47 <ivantis> google it
20:47 <armabot> I have sent bomb to ivantis, it should arrive shortly.
20:47 <akira_arma> a*
20:48 <epsy> #tea
20:48 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): <T¤$afari$Kater, <º}}}><, Al, anoternoob|AoS|, BlindMan's Dog, djtechnick, Klosinho-ROGER, MaZuffeR, ¦×¦epsy
20:48 <ivantis> it wasnt an ad
20:48 <ivantis> its one of those odd IPs
20:48 <ivantis> #toast
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20:52 <ivantis> im at the library, my timer for the computer ran out
20:53 <epsy> O_o
20:53 <ivantis> but i just guessed another login code
20:54 <ivantis> ha HA
20:54 <epsy> ..lol
20:54 <ivantis> #weather 81435
20:54 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Telluride, Colorado is 77.0°F (12:10 PM MDT on June 28, 2008). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
20:56 <ivantis> armabot lies, its cloudy outside
20:57 <madmax> well that was 8 minutes ago
20:57 <akira_arma> #weather dresden
20:57 <armabot> akira_arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:58 <akira_arma> #slap armabot
20:58 <armabot> akira_arma slaps armabot for being a raving moron.
20:58 <akira_arma> #kill armabot
20:58 <armabot> armabot will die on Sat Jun 28 20:58:11 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by akira_arma
20:58 <hoax> #weather reykjavik
20:58 <armabot> hoax: The current temperature in Reykjavik, Iceland is 50.0°F (6:00 PM GMT on June 28, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
20:58 <akira_arma> why is in farenheit anyways
20:58 <akira_arma> ...
20:59 <ivantis> ??
20:59 <ivantis> no no
20:59 <ivantis> 0^0 <<--owl
21:00 <ivantis> hey epsy, how do you change the port of SSH?
21:01 <ivantis> #slap his sister
21:01 <armabot> ivantis slaps his sister for being a raving moron.
21:03 <ivantis> nevermind, i found it
21:04 <ivantis> #list
21:04 <armabot> ivantis: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
21:04 <ivantis> #dice 4d4
21:04 <armabot> ivantis: 2, 1, 3, and 3
21:05 <ivantis> #list math
21:05 <armabot> ivantis: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units
21:05 <hoax> #help linux
21:05 <armabot> hoax: Error: There is no command "linux".
21:06 <hoax> "Later, Linux, Markov"
21:06 <ivantis> its list linux
21:07 <hoax> #list linux
21:07 <armabot> hoax: kernel
21:07 <hoax> great
21:08 <ivantis> yeah, you can have popcorn
21:11 <ivantis> gah! no!!!
21:11 <ivantis> i have lost access to my ssh server!
21:11 <ivantis> i put it on a bad port, gar!
21:11 <ivantis> nooooooooo
21:11 <ivantis> this will kill me
21:15 <ivantis> grr grr grr!
21:15 <ivantis> nooooooooo,.nooooooooo
21:15 <ivantis> 314159 sounded like a good port, but it is invalid
21:15 <ivantis> !!!!!!!!!!
21:18 <ivantis> oh, i just remembered that i still have remote vnc...
21:19 <ivantis> yes! all is not lost
21:21 <ivantis> epsy:
21:26 <madmax> ports = 16 bit
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21:27 <madmax> 0 -> ~65000
21:29 <ivantis> 314159 is not in that range...
21:30 <ivantis> madmax: are you on linux?
21:30 <madmax> no
21:31 <ivantis> ?
21:31 <ivantis> hoax:
21:31 <ivantis> akira_arma:
21:31 <ivantis> i need someone on linux to do something
21:32 -!- emphasis is now known as emphasis|afk
21:32 <hoax> not on linux anymoar sry
21:32 <ivantis>  /3
21:32 <ivantis> .
21:32 <ivantis>  .
21:32 <madmax> do what?
21:32 <ivantis> hfdjksi83!!!!
21:32 <ivantis> uo
21:33 <madmax> hum, right.
21:33 <ivantis> vnc
21:33 <ivantis> vncviewer ivantis.us.to
21:33 <ivantis> i want to see if vnc is still running on my server
21:33 <ivantis> re, i NEED to see
21:34 <ivantis> seriosuly
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22:01 <akira_arma> #tea
22:01 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): #1stunna, -*GW*-Dràconíán, <<~luAp~>>, Bonzaii, ient, IL, Kamakazi, MaZuffeR, PLEPLO, shawshanked, ß|AoS|, |Jokêr
22:04 <Lackadaisical> don't let the numbers fool you, half of them are ctwf'ers!
22:06 <eddiefantastic> at last, some decent players on cafe!
22:06 <hoax> lol
22:07 <eddiefantastic> half the cafe crew don't even know how to break properly :(
22:07 <hoax> hah, fair enough :P
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22:26 <ivantis> hey everyone who was here when i freaked out about losing ssh, nevermind
22:26 <ivantis> i realized that the port setting was commented out
22:26 <ivantis> lol
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23:16 <akira_arma> #tea
23:16 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): BlindMan's Dog, CT_emmy, Limit, MaZuffeR, Monkey, PLEPLO, Trivial Pursuit, ~|DS|~G5
23:17 <Monkey_arma> for fuck sake even on this new computer trunk crashes
23:19 <ivantis> wrtlprnft:
23:20 <ivantis> epsy:
23:20 <ivantis> ?
23:20 <ivantis> ¿?
23:21 <ivantis> `
23:21 <ivantis> neh
23:28 <ivantis> hey people: go to http://arma.ivantis.net/greendz.tiff
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23:31 <ivantis> #url last
23:33 <ivantis> #list
23:33 <armabot> ivantis: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Karma, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
23:34 <ivantis> #list rss
23:34 <ivantis> #list services
23:34 <armabot> ivantis: add, announce, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, and rss
23:34 <armabot> ivantis: ghost, identify, invite, nicks, op, password, unban, and voice
23:34 <ivantis> #voice
23:34 <armabot> ivantis: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,voice capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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04:15 <hoax> #tea
04:15 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
04:15 <hoax> #si sumo
04:15 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Team Sumo=: Players (7/14): Ðëm|Pårålyzêd, Ifrit, JJBean, M.gear, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, Uzumaki, ~>Tp.Panch0
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04:48 <StickyNo1b> #tea
04:48 <armabot> StickyNo1b: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
04:50 <hoax> cafe ftw StickyNo1b ?
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05:16 <hoax> pff ctf
05:38 <StickyNo1b> hoax!!!!!!
05:38 <hoax> :)
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06:49 <QUARG> hello
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12:48 <K-Yo> anyone knows a nice win soft to take pictures from webcam?
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13:08 <armabot> gentoo: tove * gentoo-x86/games-action/armagetronad/ (armagetronad-0.2.7.1-r1.ebuild ChangeLog):
13:18 <K-Yo> action?
13:18 <K-Yo> :/
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16:26 <akira_arma> #tea
16:26 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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17:38 <akira_arma> #tea
17:38 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:38 <akira_arma> #tea
18:38 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): IL, KB19
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19:31 <akira_arma> #tea
19:31 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): -*GW*-Draconían (Warrior@x), .Fzx, .JS° (JS@forums), Roffle, ¦×¦ liza (flash@x)
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20:23 <ivantis> kidanger: 'ey
20:26 <kidanger> hey ivantis
20:26 <ivantis> whacha doin?
20:26 <kidanger> When will you finish to add your cmd ?
20:26 <kidanger> whach ?
20:27 <ivantis> ??
20:27 <ivantis> oh, added commands
20:27 <kidanger> yes :s
20:27 <ivantis> i got some of it done
20:27 <kidanger> oh :)
20:27 <ivantis> colored zones
20:27 <ivantis> hang on...
20:27 <kidanger> It's in yout server ?
20:28 <ivantis> no
20:28 <kidanger> ok
20:28 <ivantis> im hosting a test one right now, do you have a client?
20:28 <kidanger> sure
20:28 <ivantis> custom connect ivantis.us.to:4534
20:29 <ivantis> (hostname ivantis.us.to port 4534)
20:29 <kidanger> thx
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20:37 <ivantis> hlo
20:37 <ivantis> ?
20:37 <kidanger> ?
20:37 <ivantis> hey
20:38 <kidanger> the file is big :s
20:38 <ivantis> ok, you wanna add a command?
20:38 <ivantis> yes, the file is big
20:38 <ivantis> but you can add commands to other files too
20:38 <kidanger> hum, i just look
20:39 <ivantis> for what?
20:39 <kidanger> hum, i just look the file, look how it works
20:39 <ivantis> yeah, thats what i did
20:40 <ivantis> are you looking at a dedicated source or client?
20:40 <kidanger> idk :s
20:40 <kidanger> you change dedi source ?
20:40 <ivantis> yeah
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20:41 <ivantis> i did it on a sty patched source
20:41 <ivantis> sty from bzr
20:41 <kidanger> ok
20:41 <ivantis> its pretty easy to add things, just look around in the source
20:41 <ivantis> you can see all that stuff about commands
20:42 <kidanger> Can I look what you change/add ?
20:42 <ivantis> sure
20:42 <ivantis> download the file from http://ivantis.us.to/gWinZone.cpp
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20:42 <kidanger> thx
20:43 <ivantis> add it to freshly bazaared source, and compile and everything
20:47 <kidanger> shrink will be harder to add
20:49 <ivantis> yes, it will
20:50 <kidanger> "static REAL sg_deathColorR = 1.0f;" means death zone default color is red ?
20:50 <ivantis> it would be easy, except for doing timing stuff
20:51 <ivantis> yes, "static <usuallly REAL or int> sg_settingName = value;" is the efault
20:51 <kidanger> ok, thx
20:51 <ivantis> then the next thing is where it takes the input from a command
20:52 <kidanger> I need to go :/
20:52 <ivantis> ok, see ya
20:53 <kidanger> Good luck ;)
20:53 <ivantis> ty
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21:04 <ivantis> #weather 81435
21:05 <armabot> ivantis: The current temperature in Telluride, Colorado is 71.6°F (12:10 PM MDT on June 29, 2008). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035 hPa (Steady).
21:05 <ivantis> #ping 127.0.0.1
21:05 <armabot> pong
21:05 <ivantis> aw
21:05 <ivantis> #knock-knock
21:07 <ivantis> #linux
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21:10 <madmax> #tea
21:10 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (19/32): .Ôwnåg3, /dev/null/h4ck, 1200, CTxGonZaP, CuRbSidE, dr.fux, Fred Astair, Lizmatic, MaZuffeR, moth, ps-z (ps-z@x), PunK, ~*GW*~ChrisGW, ~|DS|~ nudelaug, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x), ¦×¦ liza (flash@x), ¬|AoS|
21:10 <Monkey_arma> not watching the footy?
21:11 <madmax> ...in 15...
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21:16 <Monkey_arma> ye its enrique iglesias singing so fuck that...i'll play for a bit
21:20 <xfroggy> LOL
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21:58 <hoax> woot
21:59 <akira_arma> yay
21:59 <akira_arma> yya
22:03 <Lackadaisical> #tea
22:03 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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23:18 <Monkey_arma> viva l'espagnia!
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Log from 2008-06-30:
--- Day changed Mon Jun 30 2008
00:07 <eddiefantastic> anyone want to help me test a new 1v1 server?
00:07 <eddiefantastic> beware it has crazy flying zones and stuff
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01:27 <K-Yo> .si catfight
01:28 <K-Yo> #si catfight
01:28 <armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2: Players (2/4): ct-eddie (ed@forums), ¦×¦epsy
01:28 <K-Yo> don't tell me someone is faking epsy
01:30 <Monkey_arma> epsy is tryout out for CT
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01:32 <xfroggy> Monkey_arma, orly?
01:32 <eddiefantastic> haha
01:33 <epsy> yeah ¦×¦ sux :(
01:33 <xfroggy> epsy, seriously? lol
01:33 <epsy> yes
01:33 <xfroggy> lol wtf happened?
01:33 <eddiefantastic> he saw the light
01:33 <epsy> youdidn't hear the we lost three times in a row against CT ?
01:34 <xfroggy> epsy decided to join the white side and master jedi
01:34 <xfroggy> and become*
01:34 <xfroggy> nope, hearing first time epsy
01:35 <epsy> now you know
01:35 <xfroggy> epsy, if you can't beat them join them, huh? ;-)
01:35 <eddiefantastic> night all
01:35 <epsy> :-D
01:35 <xfroggy> nite
01:35 <epsy> what you thinking about FFF in september?
01:36 <xfroggy> I guess I shall apply for my citizenship in Spain :D
01:36 <epsy> FFF bought to you by CT xD
01:36 <xfroggy> wtf is fff
01:37 <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/
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01:38 <epsy> #last --nolimit
01:39 <armabot> epsy: [01:37:23] <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/, [01:36:27] <xfroggy> wtf is fff, [01:36:15] <epsy> FFF bought to you by CT xD, [01:36:13] <xfroggy> I guess I shall apply for my citizenship in Spain :D, [01:35:52] <epsy> what you thinking about FFF in september?, [01:35:45] <xfroggy> nite, [01:35:32] <epsy> :-D, [01:35:31] <eddiefantastic> night all, [01:35:25] <xfroggy> epsy, if you can't (50 more messages)
01:39 <epsy> only 50 ?
01:39 <epsy> that's be funny on ljrbot
01:39 <epsy> that'd*
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01:41 <epsy> #arma.fff is a very nice channel
01:42 <xfroggy> so many channels so little time...
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01:45 <FFFWebGuest> hi there!
01:45 <Monkey_arma> hello
01:46 <FFFWebGuest> can you sign my team up it seems registration is locked
01:46 <epsy> :-D
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01:47 <FFFWebGuest15> :D
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01:48 <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/?c=2
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02:02 <Monkey_arma> epsy is there gonna be another fff soon?
02:02 <epsy> <epsy> what you thinking about FFF in september?
02:02 <epsy> maybe
02:21 <Monkey_arma> btw the lagometer works in trunk
02:21 <Monkey_arma> could my version of ftgl have anything to do with crashing in trunk?
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03:44 <hoax> #ls flex
03:44 <armabot> hoax: Flex seems to be on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= right now.
03:44 <hoax> #si sumo
03:44 <armabot> hoax: Wild West  =Team Sumo=: Players (14/14): -=}ID< aRiLøU, ;Dare, <\./>, alf ñ, C$ $oup, Doink the Clown, eggcozy, Flex, Ifrit, leito, Monkey, No one, Zod, ~>Tp.Panch0
04:05 <Flex> hoax
04:06 <Flex> #ls hoax
04:06 <armabot> Flex: ¦×¦ Hoax has last been seen on Fortress Café 6 hours 55 minutes ago.
04:06 <hoax> argh
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06:17 <ivantis> p://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | AFL discussion is in #afl
06:17 <ivantis> +, most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
06:17 <ivantis> *** #armagetron luke-jr 1186944482
06:17 <ivantis> *** #armagetron 1164523365
06:18 <ivantis> [1] 22:38 ivantis on #armagetro (+cnt) * type /help for help
06:18 <ivantis>                                                                                                                                                                       
06:18 <ivantis> wtf?
06:18 <ivantis> oops, this stupid ssh client
06:18 <luke-jr> someone kick ivantis plz kthx
06:18 <hoax> luke-jr
06:19 <xfroggy> luke-jr, give me powers!
06:19 <xfroggy> I shall join the dark side :D
06:19 <hoax> luke-jr. IS your father
06:19 <Flex> lol!
06:19 <xfroggy> lmfao
06:20 <ivantis> why kick me?
06:20 <hoax> luke-jr! Now with added suction!
06:21 <xfroggy> luke-jr, $_$
06:21 <ivantis> ._.
06:22 <xfroggy> ._.
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06:22 <ivantis> *_*
06:22 <ivantis> luke-jr: why kick me?
06:22 <hoax> he said not to call him luke-jr anymore btw
06:22 <ivantis> why?
06:22 <hoax> its 'LJ' now...
06:23 <ivantis> LJ: why kick me?
06:23 <ivantis> bah
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06:23 <xfroggy> LOL
06:24 <hoax> hahaha
06:28 <Lucifer> I guess it's too late, he's already gone, but we generally kick people who are too lazy to find out why they were kicked
06:37 <Monkey_arma> since when is roter in x?
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07:07 <ivantis> does anyone wanna play 2-player netris?
07:08 <ivantis> fine
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07:13 <Monkey_arma> its a sad state in sumo when you even have to silence your teammate
07:14 <hoax> #ls Roter
07:14 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦ RoterBaron has last been seen on  Wild West  =Team Sumo= 23 minutes ago.
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12:25 <akira_arma> #tea
12:25 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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14:23 <arrow_arma> hi all
14:23 <arrow_arma> need to ask something
14:24 <arrow_arma> whats command to restart settings back which are in config in game?
14:24 <arrow_arma> like restarting server or something
14:34 <z-man-work> The only available thing is QUIT.
14:35 <z-man-work> or INCLUDE settings_dedicated.cfg, depending on what was changed.
14:39 <arrow_arma> so
14:39 <arrow_arma> on cheers
14:39 <arrow_arma> someone changed speed brake and accel rim
14:39 <arrow_arma> and i dont know how to return it back
14:39 <arrow_arma> just find it messed
14:40 <arrow_arma> hm looks just speed was changed
14:40 <arrow_arma> i returned it back
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19:00 <madmax> #ls madmax
19:00 <armabot> madmax: timed out
19:01 <epsy> #ls swoosh
19:02 <armabot> epsy: timed out
19:02 <epsy> #ls -g madmax@forums
19:02 <armabot> epsy: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 days 17 hours 37 minutes ago.
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19:49 <Lizmatic> #tea
19:49 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): CT_emmy, PlayerNuby, Puuquie (Puuquie@crazy-tronners.com)
19:50 <Lizmatic> #send Flex a bomb
19:50 <armabot> I have sent a bomb to Flex, it should arrive shortly.
19:50 <Flex> aw
19:50 <Lizmatic> #send Flex exploding tampon
19:50 <armabot> I have sent exploding tampon to Flex, it should arrive shortly.
19:50 <Lizmatic> hihi
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19:57 <Flex> Lizmatic
19:58  * Lizmatic slaps Flex around a bit with a large trout
19:58  * Flex slaps Lizmatic around a bit with a large trout
19:58  * Lizmatic slaps Flex around a bit with a large trout
19:58  * Flex slaps Lizmatic around a bit with a large trout
19:58 <Lizmatic> :-(
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19:59 <Flex> Lizmatic what are you doing!
20:00 <Lizmatic> #send Flex a pogo stick
20:00 <armabot> I have sent a pogo stick to Flex, it should arrive shortly.
20:00 <Lizmatic> :-D
20:00 <Flex> stop sending me things!
20:01 <madmax> does armabot send rooms too? :-D
20:01 <Flex> na we got a room.. we just like to do it in public ;)
20:02 <Lizmatic> #send madmax a room
20:02 <armabot> I have sent a room to madmax, it should arrive shortly.
20:03 <Flex> #send armabot armabot
20:03 <armabot> I have sent armabot to armabot, it should arrive shortly.
20:07 <madmax> hmm, armabot shipping itself
20:07 <luke-jr> we need a supybot plugin that collects words
20:07 <luke-jr> and can output random sequences thereof
20:07 <luke-jr> so I can send a random msg to someone
20:07 <luke-jr> ;D
20:08 <Flex> luke-jr
20:08 <Flex> h
20:08 <Flex> i
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20:10 <luke-jr> Flex
20:10 <luke-jr> i
20:10 <luke-jr> h
20:13 <Flex> #tea
20:13 <armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): CT_emmy, cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), PlayerNuby
20:25 <Lizmatic> #tea
20:25 <armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): CT_emmy, ct¤$ø1, cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), Flex, PlayerNuby, Sithy
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20:56 <epsy> #cfg timestamp
20:56 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
20:56 <epsy> #cfg time
20:56 <armabot> epsy: CHATTER_REMOVE_TIME: Time in seconds after which a permanent chatter is removed from the game (default: 180) || CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED: Turn delays will be based on the time since the last turn if this is 1 (default) and the distance if this is 0. Intermediate values and values out of these bounds are supported as well. (default: 1) || CYCLE_DELAY_TIMEBASED_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients (12 more messages)
20:56 <epsy> #cfg2 timestamp
20:56 <armabot> epsy: CONSOLE_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of console output with the current date and time || LADDERLOG_DECORATE_TIMESTAMP: Decorates every line of ladderlog output with the current date and time
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21:53 <akira_arma> #tea
21:53 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:18 <epsy> urm, how do i center a <Label>
22:19 <epsy> it seems it keeps just being positionned at it's left
22:21 <luke-jr> text-align: center?
22:21 <luke-jr> margin: auto?
22:26 <epsy> er..where would i put that?
22:28 <epsy> i am talking about cockpits by the way
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23:19 <akira_arma> #tea
23:19 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): 0+0=0, Alpha Dog, Goodygumdrops, ient, IL, Lizmatic, Minefield, Rubberduck, zozo, |x| FoFo, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x)
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23:40 <Lizmatic> #aka Lizmatic
23:43 <xfroggy> #ping
23:51 <armabot> Lizmatic: I don't know anything about 'lizmatic'!
23:51 <armabot> pong


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