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Log from 2008-06-13: --- Day changed Fri Jun 13 2008 00:00 * ivantis is back again! 00:00 <epsy> again?! 00:00 <epsy> :) 00:00 <ivantis> yeah, again 00:00 <epsy> good..night! 00:01 <ivantis> goodnight? 00:01 <ivantis> what timezone? 00:01 <epsy> it's 12 am right now 00:01 <epsy> well, here :) 00:01 <ivantis> its 5 pm right now 00:01 <epsy> CEST 00:01 <ivantis> well, here 00:01 <ivantis> uh, 00:01 <ivantis> i dont know the timezone 00:01 <epsy> most of the UE 00:02 <epsy> are on CET 00:02 <ivantis> central time -1 hour 00:02 <epsy> on summer they are on CEST 00:02 <epsy> which is not CST 00:02 <epsy> :) 00:02 <ivantis> you mean DST? 00:02 <ct|kyle> CST -1 epsy 00:02 <ivantis> whatever 00:02 <epsy> it seems to be called summer time for european timezones 00:03 <epsy> while with american ones get called daylight savings time 00:03 <ivantis> is armabot back yet if its the 12th already? 00:03 <ct|kyle> we call that central time weather summer or winter 00:03 <ivantis> yeah, right, it doesnt save me any daylight 00:03 <ct|kyle> it gives me the daylight late in the night 00:03 <ivantis> i hate having to go to school earlier 00:04 <ivantis> because of it 00:04 <ivantis> ugh, i dont want to have to school this year 00:04 <ivantis> at all 00:05 <ivantis> 8th grade man, 8th grade! 00:05 <ct|kyle> heh 00:06 <ct|kyle> i hate daylight savings, i never had it till we got a stupid Governor 00:07 <ivantis> on servers, does MAX_IN_RATE and stuff help with player time-outs? 00:07 <ivantis> i looked at that thing on the wiki 00:09 <ct|kyle> donno setting not found in new servers 00:10 <ivantis> er, max_out_rate 00:11 <ct|kyle> no matches 00:12 <ivantis> say, does anyone know of a way to tell through ssh how much bandwidth you get? 00:12 <ivantis> im away from home right now 00:15 <StickyNoob> a bit yes 00:15 <ivantis> how? 00:15 <ivantis> i must know 00:16 <StickyNoob> oh oops 00:17 <ivantis> what? 00:17 <StickyNoob> wrong channel 00:22 <ivantis> stickynoob, how do i check speed through a command line? 00:23 <luke-jr> ivantis FAIL 00:23 <ivantis> what? 00:23 <epsy> nothing. 00:23 <ivantis> ??? 00:23 <Monkey_arma> thats actually a really good question 00:24 <epsy> nah, he now exceeded his line quote for today, wait until tomorrow 00:24 <Monkey_arma> we have top for cpu usage 00:24 <Monkey_arma> but not so good stuff for net 00:24 -!- G5 [n=G5@p5796289C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Over and out."] 00:25 <StickyNoob> ivantis: if you have root/sudo access you can install nethogs 00:25 <ivantis> whats that do? 00:25 <ivantis> i am root 00:25 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: nethogs is top for network access 00:25 <Monkey_arma> ah ok 00:25 <StickyNoob> ivantis: what type of system? 00:25 <Monkey_arma> is there some ntop or similar? 00:25 <ivantis> k ill try it 00:26 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: how about IO? 00:26 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: what, top for devices?? 00:26 <luke-jr> or at least block devices 00:27 <StickyNoob> duno 00:27 <Monkey_arma> there is IOSTAT 00:27 <Monkey_arma> doubt it does much 00:27 <StickyNoob> dosent sound like something worth measuring 00:27 <Monkey_arma> i remember reading IO has the least support 00:27 <ivantis> ok, im installing nethogs 00:27 <ivantis> how does it work? 00:28 <Monkey_arma> ivantis are you root on irc or just you have a root window open? 00:28 <ivantis> i have a root window open. how on irc? 00:28 <StickyNoob> ivantis: just as root or sudo type "nethogs eth0" 00:29 <ivantis> i get... 00:29 <madmax> root on irc = being the ircd itself? :-P 00:29 <StickyNoob> no hes on irc through a web interface 00:29 <ivantis> http://mibbit.com/pb/2y5NIh 00:30 <ivantis> using ssh'ed irc is too slow 00:30 <ivantis> and i cant download anything now 00:30 <Monkey_arma> what i mean is ....is he on the net as root 00:30 <Monkey_arma> and you knew that :) 00:31 <ivantis> did you guys look at http://mibbit.com/pb/2y5NIh ? thats what i get from "nethogs eth0" 00:31 <StickyNoob> that looks ok 00:31 <ivantis> what does it tell me through that? 00:31 <ivantis> whats my speed? 00:32 <StickyNoob> ahh right 00:32 <StickyNoob> that tells you howmuch bandwidth each program is using 00:32 <StickyNoob> so lshd is using 0.065kb a second 00:32 <ivantis> no i meant total that i get, my internet speed 00:33 <StickyNoob> no real way to do that 00:33 <ivantis> dangit 00:33 <ivantis> well, i could do it with vnc 00:33 <StickyNoob> other than look at the contract you signed 00:33 <ivantis> but that is hellishly slow 00:33 <StickyNoob> whatare you doing?? 00:33 <ivantis> what? 00:33 <StickyNoob> what are you doing?? 00:34 <StickyNoob> that you think is slow 00:34 <ivantis> using vnc 00:34 <StickyNoob> heh 00:34 <ivantis> btw, what port does X server run on? 00:34 <ivantis> not |x| servers, x windows server 00:34 <ivantis> lol 00:35 <StickyNoob> dont think it runs on a network port, dose it 00:35 <ivantis> then how does it tunnel? 00:35 <StickyNoob> ahh you mean x forwarding? 00:35 <ivantis> ya 00:35 <StickyNoob> x forwarding is the slowst thing known to man 00:35 <ivantis> i know 00:35 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["gone! quit! exit! etc."] 00:36 <ivantis> but i must use it 00:36 <StickyNoob> dont bother unless you are on a lan 00:36 <StickyNoob> why must you use it? 00:36 <ivantis> it doesnt matter, i must use it 00:36 <StickyNoob> why? 00:36 <ivantis> important, and private matter 00:36 <StickyNoob> well all i can say is that unless you are on the same lan x forwarding is fairly bad 00:36 <ivantis> i need to use a remote browser to look at my net speed 00:36 <ivantis> what port??? 00:37 <StickyNoob> it goes over the ssh session 00:37 <Monkey_arma> sticky isnt there some new thing to replace lbxproxy? 00:37 <StickyNoob> yes im trying to remember the new compressed x forwarding thing 00:38 <ivantis> yeah, but im using a ssh client that has a tunnels menu, and it asks for a port 00:38 <StickyNoob> you are not tunneling 00:38 <Monkey_arma> one word of note is that work on x server and accessories to it is happening very fast 00:38 <ivantis> go to http://www.netspace.org/ssh/ 00:38 <ivantis> look at the menu 00:39 <StickyNoob> are you running windows or linux? 00:39 <ivantis> windows 00:39 <ivantis> sigh 00:39 <StickyNoob> use putty 00:40 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871EC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:40 <ivantis> i cant download anything on this computer 00:40 <ivantis> anyway, you need more than putty to x forward 00:40 <StickyNoob> yes cygwin 00:40 <ivantis> yeah 00:41 <ivantis> but this isnt my computer 00:43 <StickyNoob> that applet never starts for me 00:43 <ivantis> huh 00:43 <StickyNoob> http://www.netspace.org/ssh/ dosent work for me 00:44 <ivantis> lhame 00:44 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 00:48 <ivantis> well, i dont need it now anyway, i just did some estimation 00:49 <StickyNoob> ok so you just want to know your max net speed 00:49 <StickyNoob> where is this server, america? 00:52 <StickyNoob> ivantis: type "wget http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso" 00:52 <StickyNoob> what speed does that go at 00:52 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:52 <K-Yo> gn 00:52 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"] 00:54 <ivantis> what? i was gone for a sec 00:54 <StickyNoob> type "wget 00:54 <ivantis> whats ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso? 00:55 <ivantis> what is it? 00:55 <StickyNoob> its a copy of ubuntu linux 00:55 <ivantis> why? 00:55 <StickyNoob> you want to test your speed 00:55 <epsy> it's a large file 00:55 <StickyNoob> do download that big file 00:55 <ivantis> and??? 00:55 <StickyNoob> *so 00:55 <epsy> and look at your speed 00:55 <ivantis> i already guessed it 00:56 * StickyNoob head desks 00:56 <ivantis> and my remote hand at my server might do it for me 00:56 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@2001:5c0:87c8:0:21a:4dff:fe92:5d24] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:56 <hoax> StickyNoob invest in a desk that gives you some head back 00:57 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has joined #armagetron 00:57 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E1D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 00:58 <ivantis> i think this should be good, will someone go to SPACE-LAB Shooting on arma to test my lagginess? 00:58 <ivantis> MAX_OUT_RATE is 3 00:58 <Monkey_arma> ivantis ssh can fuck with your bandwidth big time 00:58 <Monkey_arma> as sticky said,best to change the port you have it on 00:58 <ivantis> i know, i left some room for it 00:58 <StickyNoob> noooooo shooting 00:58 <ivantis> why change the port? 00:59 <Monkey_arma> then you wont get loads of login attempts from iran and china 00:59 <ivantis> noooo shooting? what? 00:59 <ivantis> ah 00:59 <Monkey_arma> also he recommended fail2ban 00:59 <ivantis> should i change my dns name? 00:59 <ivantis> right now its ivantis.1.vg 01:00 <StickyNoob> ivantis: i get 200-300ms ping 01:00 <ivantis> hmm 01:00 <ivantis> it wasn't like that before 01:00 <StickyNoob> i am in europe 01:00 <ivantis> yeah, even in europe 01:00 <ivantis> hang on 01:00 <Monkey_arma> with ssh my ping was 30-120 ms more than usual 01:01 <ivantis> where? 01:01 <Monkey_arma> but that was with constant attempts 01:01 <Monkey_arma> fort cafe 01:01 <ivantis> oh 01:01 <StickyNoob> to cafe i am about 10025 01:01 <StickyNoob> 125 01:01 <ivantis> ping? 01:01 <StickyNoob> yes 01:01 <ivantis> oh, i thought 10025, lol 01:02 <epsy> 10 seconds :P 01:02 <ivantis> hmm 01:02 <ivantis> hang on 01:02 <ivantis> stickynoob, still at shooting? 01:03 <StickyNoob> no 01:04 <ivantis> whats the default MAX_OUT_RATE? 01:04 <Monkey_arma> ivantis btw what version server you running? (tron) 01:05 <ivantis> server or client? 01:05 <Monkey_arma> server 01:05 <ivantis> server is... 01:05 <ivantis> 0.2.8_alphaDATE 01:05 <ivantis> lemme get the date... 01:06 <ivantis> 0.2.8_alpha20080508 01:06 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-041-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:07 <ivantis> ok, sticky go back to shooting and tell your ping 01:07 <ivantis> **plz** 01:08 <Monkey_arma> well, ivantis when we tested some servers with fort settings, the newer ones seriously solved a lag issue that was in 2.8.2.1 01:08 <Monkey_arma> i dont know from which version the issues were resolved but the difference was noticable 01:08 <ivantis> the issue was in 2.8.2.1, or it was solved in 2.8.2.1?? 01:09 <Monkey_arma> the issue was in 2.8.2.1 01:09 <Monkey_arma> when you keep turning fast you get warping of lines 01:09 <ivantis> 2.8_alpha isnt 2.8.2.1, is it? 01:09 <Monkey_arma> it didnt happen or much less at least in later versions 01:09 <Monkey_arma> 2.8 alpha is later than 2.8.2.1 01:09 <StickyNoob> 210 01:09 -!- Flex [i=savas@unaffiliated/savas] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:10 <ivantis> that better than before? 01:10 <StickyNoob> bout same 01:10 <ivantis> i put the max_out_rate to 5 01:10 <ivantis> hm 01:10 <ivantis> try it now, i was in ssh 01:10 <StickyNoob> lag is not massively related to bandwidth 01:11 -!- Flex [i=savas@unaffiliated/savas] has joined #armagetron 01:11 <Monkey_arma> when we say lag there are 2 things we can mean 01:11 <ivantis> slow, and ping, yeah 01:12 <Monkey_arma> the main one we talk about is inconsistency lag 01:12 <Monkey_arma> where you warp lines or whatever 01:12 <epsy> there's player sliding..but that's rare 01:12 <Monkey_arma> or jump etc 01:12 <epsy> jumps are quite common, but in sumo 01:12 <Monkey_arma> i mean as opposed to consistent lag 01:12 <Monkey_arma> like ping, fps etc 01:12 <StickyNoob> 230-300 01:12 <epsy> oh, that looser thingy? 01:13 <ivantis> you have 230-300 ping now? 01:13 <ivantis> goodness 01:13 <StickyNoob> yes 01:14 <ivantis> hmm 01:14 <epsy> i don't really get the jumping thingy 01:14 <ivantis> that is an issue 01:14 <Monkey_arma> epsy what u mean? 01:14 <epsy> when you have your enemy warping from one side of the zone to the other 01:15 <epsy> enemy = anyone but you 01:15 <StickyNoob> epsy: where is the code for the most recent non screwed up glancing client? 01:15 <Monkey_arma> oO 01:15 <Monkey_arma> heh 01:15 <epsy> what? 01:15 <Monkey_arma> that would be latest 2.8alpha 01:15 <ivantis> d 01:15 <StickyNoob> is that svn tagged? 01:15 <ivantis> maybe i should change it again 01:16 <epsy> if i knew how it did happen i think i would have an idea of what to wrok around 01:17 <ivantis> yipes, 5/8 on my server, they are in for a world of lag 01:18 <epsy> in x sumo it's not only with transatlantical players 01:18 <ivantis> maybe that is a good setting, though, and they wont have that much 01:19 <epsy> but it seems that it lags more when certain (cough) players start playing 01:19 <ivantis> like that Bob guy from china 01:19 <ivantis> he always has about 650 ping 01:20 <epsy> so there's two players from china 01:20 <ivantis> whats the ping like at shooting from the list? 01:21 <ivantis> going from colorado to kansas, 117 average 01:21 <epsy> heh 01:21 <epsy> okay, going to bed 01:21 <epsy> ]night 01:21 <ljrbot`> epsy: Error: "night" is not a valid command. 01:22 <ivantis> night 01:22 <epsy> well, whatever :P 01:22 <epsy> 'night 01:22 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. Replace your old Quit with this, so I can continue to multiply myself!"] 01:22 <ivantis> ]day 01:22 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "day" is not a valid command. 01:22 <ivantis> ]ls ivantis 01:22 <ivantis> he wont be able to find me 01:22 <ljrbot`> ivantis: timed out 01:22 <ivantis> knew it 01:23 <ivantis> ]ls angel 01:23 <ljrbot`> ivantis: arkangel has last been seen on .dBd|Rapid's Graveyard | Loose DF 38 minutes ago. 01:24 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab 01:24 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (4/8): Ethan, michaelbrown, spike, ZAk 01:24 <ivantis> why doesnt it say the ping in sd? 01:27 <ivantis> is anyone still there? 01:27 <ivantis> sticky? 01:27 <Monkey_arma> you need to highlight his name 01:28 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob StickyNoob StickyNoob StickyNoob 01:28 <Monkey_arma> like taht 01:28 <StickyNoob> yo 01:28 <ivantis> will you ping ivantis.1.vg for me? 01:29 <StickyNoob> bout 200 01:29 <ivantis> ahk 01:29 <ivantis> ok** 01:30 <StickyNoob> hmm 0.2_pre4 is error tastic 01:32 <ivantis> good, i have nice settings to bandwidth, clients survived an ssh login 01:32 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab 01:32 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (2/8): Ethan, michaelbrown 01:34 <ivantis> ok, i am going no 01:34 <ivantis> w 01:34 <ivantis> goodbye 01:34 * ivantis leaves... 01:34 -!- ivantis [i=4cb20d0e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-54b881bddbdd0945] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 01:34 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you know where to find the most up to date 0.2.8 01:35 <Monkey_arma> well i use bzr 01:35 <Monkey_arma> it will be on launchpad 01:35 <Monkey_arma> i guess 01:35 <Monkey_arma> do you have bzr? 01:35 <StickyNoob> i can install 01:35 <Monkey_arma> i think there are some issues with mixing svn and bzr btw 01:36 <Monkey_arma> i mean for the same instance of a download 01:36 <Monkey_arma> it is supposed to be gettablee with svn 01:36 <Monkey_arma> but i wouldnt bet on it 01:36 <StickyNoob> well whats the command for the latest 0.2.8 01:36 <Monkey_arma> hmmm 01:36 <Monkey_arma> dunno 01:36 <Monkey_arma> for trunk its 01:37 <Monkey_arma> bzr checkout lp:armagetronad 01:37 <Monkey_arma> lp being short for launchpad 01:37 <Monkey_arma> bzr knows launchpad 01:37 <StickyNoob> launchpad? 01:37 <Monkey_arma> its a site that they use to store source on 01:38 <Monkey_arma> https://launchpad.net/ 01:38 <StickyNoob> ok 01:41 <StickyNoob> hmm bzr not so good at user feed back 01:42 <Monkey_arma> heh 01:42 <Monkey_arma> quite good docs tho 01:42 <Monkey_arma> should be better tho 01:43 <Monkey_arma> btw you'll need a newer verion of bzr 01:43 <Monkey_arma> debian repos is old 01:43 <Monkey_arma> dont know about ubbnutu 01:43 <StickyNoob> why does it have to be new? 01:44 <Monkey_arma> features not in older ones 01:44 <StickyNoob> well its downloading 01:44 <Monkey_arma> i installed debian one and it couldnt do what i needed 01:44 <Monkey_arma> k 01:44 <Monkey_arma> should be ok 01:44 <StickyNoob> gives no feed back to say it is but still 01:48 -!- mib_hmwmyb [i=440d6de2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7688897d3f515e53] has joined #armagetron 01:48 <Monkey_arma> heh hi 01:48 <hoax> ]ls max 01:48 <ljrbot`> hoax: MAX HEADROOM has last been seen on ~*SpeederS*~ Server 42 minutes ago. 01:49 <hoax> ]ls madmax 01:49 <ljrbot`> hoax: timed out 01:49 <hoax> ]ls Monkey 01:49 <ljrbot`> hoax: monkey214 has last been seen on |FA| Clan Server - Devils Rings! 23 minutes ago. 01:49 <hoax> lol 01:49 <Monkey_arma> er.. 01:49 <madmax> o_O 01:49 <hoax> 213 imposters already 01:49 <Monkey_arma> no joke there are that may 01:49 <Monkey_arma> *n 01:50 -!- mib_hmwmyb [i=440d6de2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7688897d3f515e53] has quit [Client Quit] 01:50 <Monkey_arma> ]ls luffy 01:50 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: Monkey.D.Luffy has last been seen on Wild West =CTF Shooting= 3 hours 38 minutes ago. 01:50 <hoax> I wonder what devils rings are 01:50 <Monkey_arma> ]ls foolish 01:50 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: foolish monkey has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 14 hours 16 minutes ago. 01:50 <Monkey_arma> the list goes on 01:50 <hoax> da da da da dee dah 01:52 -!- ivantis [i=4cb20d0e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49e448f5cbf2dcb2] has joined #armagetron 01:52 * ivantis is back again! 01:52 <ivantis> yes, again 01:52 <Monkey_arma> wb 01:52 <ivantis> ]sd -v mud puddle 01:52 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Swampland Mud Puddle (67.240.58.163:4537) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Small Swampland“, Players (3/8): Beasta, Glace, ]-[3R0 01:52 <ivantis> look, see the player ]-[3R0 there? 01:53 <ivantis> the pass to my old server was H3R0. on request by magnie 01:53 <ivantis> does anyone remember magnie? 01:54 <ivantis> ]ls magnie 01:54 <ljrbot`> ivantis: timed out 01:54 <ivantis> ]ls sage 01:54 <ljrbot`> ivantis: -=}ID< DarkSage has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 4 hours 49 minutes ago. 01:54 <ivantis> ]ping 01:54 <ljrbot`> pong 01:55 <ivantis> ]knock 01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "knock" is not a valid command. 01:55 <StickyNoob> ]ls sticky 01:55 <ljrbot`> StickyNoob: |x| Sticky has last been seen on SPACE-LAB Shooting! 43 minutes ago. 01:55 <ivantis> ]pong 01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "pong" is not a valid command. 01:55 <ivantis> ]ping 01:55 <ljrbot`> pong 01:55 <ivantis> ]ring 01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "ring" is not a valid command. 01:55 <ivantis> ]knockknock 01:55 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "knockknock" is not a valid command. 01:56 <ivantis> ]commands 01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "commands" is not a valid command. 01:56 <Monkey_arma> ]list 01:56 <ljrbot`> Monkey_arma: Admin, Alias, Bible, Channel, Config, Format, Games, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Owner, Quote, Seen, Services, User, Utilities, and Web 01:56 <ivantis> ]list admin 01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part 01:56 <ivantis> ]list games 01:56 <ljrbot`> ivantis: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette 01:57 <ivantis> ]coin 01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: tails 01:57 <ivantis> ]dice 01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice. 01:57 <ivantis> ]dice 99d99 01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice. 01:57 <ivantis> lame 01:57 <ivantis> ]dice 6d99 01:57 <ljrbot`> ivantis: 6, 11, 39, 72, 69, and 99 01:58 <ivantis> ]eightball 01:58 <ljrbot`> ivantis: You know the answer better than I. 01:58 <ivantis> ]eightball 01:58 <ljrbot`> ivantis: The outlook is poor. 01:58 <ivantis> man, bad luck 01:59 <ivantis> ]eightball 01:59 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Come again? 01:59 <ivantis> ]eightball 01:59 <ljrbot`> ivantis: _I_ don't know. 02:01 -!- ivantis [i=4cb20d0e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49e448f5cbf2dcb2] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 02:01 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77.64.161.42] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:05 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-24-30-130-132.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 02:19 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:20 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has joined #armagetron 03:43 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-166-39.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron 03:44 <ivantis> hello? 03:44 <pippijn> hi 03:44 <ivantis> ]hello 03:44 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. 03:44 <ivantis> hi 03:44 <ivantis> ]sd -v space-lab 03:44 <ljrbot`> ivantis: SPACE-LAB Shooting! (63.245.166.39:4537) running 0.2.8_alpha20080508 unix dedicated, url: http://arma.ivantis.net, Description: “Some Lag, some Bugs, some Idiots“, Players (0/8): 03:45 <ivantis> ]hi 03:45 <ljrbot`> ivantis: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. 03:45 -!- ivantis [n=ivantis@63-245-166-39.kitusa.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:50 -!- hoax [n=fuck@unaffiliated/hoax] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:58 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has quit [] 04:51 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:24 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 05:31 -!- ivantis [i=4cb20d0e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0ab9d2c07004f94] has joined #armagetron 06:02 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:03 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has joined #armagetron 06:09 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@70.240.13.58] has joined #armagetron 06:26 -!- GodTodd 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<Monkey_arma> not really 18:51 -!- armabot [n=armabot@88.215.113.20.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron 18:51 <Monkey_arma> armabot! wb 18:51 <Monkey_arma> #wb 18:53 <wrtlprnft> #ping 18:53 <armabot> pong 18:53 <K-Yo> welcome back wrtl 18:54 <wrtlprnft> ty 18:57 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: connect: Connection timed out at /home/armagetronad/cafe/sendstats.pl line 43, <SOCK> line 27. 18:57 <wrtlprnft> all over the place. 19:05 <epsy> armabot depends on that? O_o 19:06 <epsy> hi wrtl 19:07 <wrtlprnft> no 19:07 <wrtlprnft> that's totally independent 19:25 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: O.o 19:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: can you telnet 19:38 <luke-jr> also, wfm 19:40 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E1D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:40 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E71B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 19:41 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 19:48 -!- Flex [i=savas@unaffiliated/savas] has quit ["bye bye"] 19:50 <wrtlprnft> wfm? 19:51 <pippijn> hi wrtlprnft 19:52 <wrtlprnft> hi 19:52 <wrtlprnft> armagetronad@marvin 1 $ nc -v stats.aa.dashjr.org 9999 ~/armasrc-0.2.8-bzr 19:52 <wrtlprnft> DNS fwd/rev mismatch: hachi.dashjr.org != wsip-70-184-212-2.om.om.cox.net 19:52 <wrtlprnft> hachi.dashjr.org [70.184.212.2] 9999 (?) open 19:52 <madmax> #eliza hi! 19:52 <armabot> madmax: How do you do? What brings you to see me? 19:52 <wrtlprnft> dunno what the protocol is 19:52 <pippijn> #eliza hi! 19:52 <armabot> pippijn: How do you do? What brings you to see me? 19:52 <pippijn> #eliza hi! 19:52 <armabot> pippijn: How do you do? What brings you to see me? 19:52 <madmax> and wb wrtlprnft :P 19:52 <pippijn> how.. intelligent 19:53 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: the original program is more intelligent 19:53 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I'm working on my programming language again :-) 19:53 <wrtlprnft> it's just that I restart it every time, so it can't remember anything 19:54 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I have also written an AI engine 19:54 <wrtlprnft> o_O 19:56 <pippijn> that's been a while ago, though 19:56 <K-Yo> what kind of AI? 19:56 <K-Yo> an answering one? 19:57 <pippijn> yes 19:57 <pippijn> it can also learn minor things 19:58 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:59 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 19:59 <wrtlprnft> oh, i thought it was something recent we can use for arma's bots 19:59 <pippijn> oh, no 19:59 <pippijn> I mean a pattern matching AI engine 20:01 <pippijn> *sigh* 20:01 <pippijn> here we go again 20:01 <pippijn> I'm weeding out bugs 20:06 <Monkey_arma> #eliza i hate emacs 20:06 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Why do you hate emacs? 20:07 <Monkey_arma> if you dont know that eliza...there is no hope for you... 20:11 <deja_vu> xD 20:15 <wrtlprnft> emacs <<< vim 20:15 <wrtlprnft> vim is the only true religion. 20:17 * Monkey_arma agrees 20:23 <deja_vu> :D 20:47 <madmax> NL vs france, place your bets 20:54 <akira_arma> nl 20:57 <pippijn> nl 20:57 <pippijn> #eliza I love vim 20:57 <armabot> pippijn: Please, describe your relationship with vim. 20:57 <pippijn> hm 20:57 <pippijn> that's the emacs eliza 20:57 <pippijn> the exact same answer comes from the elisp eliza 21:13 <K-Yo> hey, is there any café admin or moderator available? 21:17 <wrtlprnft> what's up? 21:18 <K-Yo> tker 21:18 <K-Yo> #tea 21:18 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): -=52]°mEsCaLiTo, <T¤$afari$Kater, CT_emmy, cT¤K-yo (K-Yo@crazy-tronners.com), Daschm, Olifee, ~*Spe3d*~, ~*viper*~ 21:18 <K-Yo> and too few possible voters 21:18 <K-Yo> Olifee 21:20 <luke-jr> ]bird 21:20 <ljrbot`> eddiefantastic: You're a bird 21:21 <K-Yo> what is this? 21:21 <K-Yo> ]bird 21:21 <ljrbot`> ct|kyle: You're a bird 21:21 <K-Yo> oh 21:21 <K-Yo> that is a spammy function xD 21:22 <madmax> can ribery actually be any uglier? 21:22 * K-Yo doesn't think so 21:22 <K-Yo> zidane was cuter 21:24 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron 21:37 <Monkey_arma> madmax that is cruel 21:37 <Monkey_arma> :0 21:37 <akira_arma> !slap Monkey_arma 21:37 <Monkey_arma> but ribery is a very good player 21:37 <akira_arma> eh 21:37 <madmax> truth hurts, he *is* ugly 21:37 <akira_arma> #slap Monkey_arma 21:37 <armabot> akira_arma slaps Monkey_arma for being a raving moron. 21:39 <Lucifer> those damned Irish, heh 21:39 <akira_arma> yea 21:39 <akira_arma> ;) 21:39 <akira_arma> those damned british too.... 21:39 * akira_arma hides 21:54 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E71B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:57 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-003-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron 22:04 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:43 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@195.196-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 23:08 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@053-136-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:08 -!- emphasis|zzzzz [n=rolf@053-136-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron 23:08 -!- G5 [n=G5@p57962B56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Armagetron 23:20 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E633.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 23:21 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:22 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087206A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 23:22 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p5087206A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:26 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron 23:32 -!- ivantis [i=3fe443da@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f97dfa4d55628eb9] has joined #armagetron 23:32 -!- emphasis|zzzzz [n=rolf@053-136-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [] 23:39 -!- ivantis [i=3fe443da@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f97dfa4d55628eb9] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 23:47 <Monkey_arma> anyone for cafe? 23:52 <madmax> yes 23:53 <ct|kyle> no 23:58 <akira_arma> kView entire month
is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
Gridder
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