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07:13 <ivantis> whats up with armagetronad.net?
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07:14 <ivantis> its all, down
07:15 <ivantis> or is no one there?
07:15 <joda_bot> works for me
07:15 <ivantis> not for me
07:15 <ivantis> oh, now it works.
07:15 <joda_bot> :-P
07:15 <ivantis> a while ago it just wouldnt load
07:16 <ivantis> it was all slow all day
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16:40 <madmax> opera 9.5 out ftw
16:52 <StickyNoob> opera fan?
16:52 <kbblak> opera sucks
16:52 <kbblak> firefox!
16:52 <StickyNoob> used it for a while, was quite good
16:53 <StickyNoob> but FF has managed to take most of the decent functionality from it.  However the standards compliance is nice
16:53 <StickyNoob> nice in opera that is, not FF
16:58 <madmax> 9.5 is much better than the previous release
16:58 <madmax> in terms of performance, and some new features
17:00 <madmax> the address bar can now "search" in the visited pages content
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17:30 <Monkey_arma> ye i use firefox but something about it bugs me.
17:30 <Flex> http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/12/pci-express-3-0-details-surface/
17:30 <Monkey_arma> i have had some odd behaviour with the talkback plubin
17:30 <Monkey_arma> *g
17:30 <Monkey_arma> ok flex and others i need advice
17:31 <Flex> pci-e 3
17:31 <Monkey_arma> i have money but no where has the parts...well not all the parts i need
17:31 <Monkey_arma> so either i buy online
17:31 <Monkey_arma> or?
17:31 <Flex> buy pci-e 3
17:32 <Monkey_arma> but i dont need first hand parts
17:32 <Monkey_arma> i only want it for tron
17:33 <StickyNoob> have we ever done tests to establish what the limiting factor with tron is?
17:34 <Monkey_arma> i play with no details
17:34 <Monkey_arma> and im am happy with that
17:34 <Monkey_arma> i reckon a 64meg gfx card would do me
17:34 <StickyNoob> ok fine, but you want it for tron only
17:34 <Monkey_arma> with any mobo+cpu
17:34 <StickyNoob> so it would be a good idea to figure out what tron needs
17:35 <Monkey_arma> well on trunk i get a bit better fps
17:35 <Monkey_arma> im sure that setup would be plenty
17:35 <Monkey_arma> i've never bought online before becuase i dont trust it
17:35 <Flex> StickyNoob, yeah i've been wondering that too
17:35 <Flex> what exactly gives more fps
17:36 <Monkey_arma> flex..its basically better gfx card
17:36 <Monkey_arma> in many areas
17:36 <Monkey_arma> basic 3d stuff
17:36 <Monkey_arma> then if you use special effects...
17:36 <Flex> tron is quite basic i don't think it takes all the card features
17:36 <Monkey_arma> true
17:36 <Monkey_arma> although some fancy effects might a little
17:37 <Monkey_arma> but its pretty basic 3d stuff
17:37 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: you say its gfx card but do you have anything to back that up?
17:37 <Monkey_arma> oh come on its obvious
17:38 <Monkey_arma> its a basic 3d game man
17:38 <Flex> lol
17:38 <Monkey_arma> it uses negligible ram
17:38 <Monkey_arma> so its cpu and gfx combo
17:39 <Monkey_arma> and being 3d, gfx would be the priority
17:39 <Monkey_arma> look how simple the game is
17:39  * StickyNoob is not totaly convinced by the assumptions
17:39 <Monkey_arma> omg u r joking
17:39 <Monkey_arma> what exactly do you think it could be other than gfx and a bit cpu?
17:40 <luke-jr> network
17:40 <Monkey_arma> hahaha
17:40 <StickyNoob> well ti could be way more cpu than gfx(i dont know) so money would be better spent on cpu than badass gfx
17:41 <Monkey_arma> sticky i want decent both
17:41 <luke-jr> better spend money on a OC3
17:41 <Monkey_arma> and as for lukes network....
17:41 <Monkey_arma> omg
17:41 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: can you believe Cox is raising the price?
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17:41 <Monkey_arma> cox?
17:41 <StickyNoob> could be blowing cache alot, so a cpu with shit loads of cache would be best
17:42 <Monkey_arma> sticky you are nuts
17:42 <StickyNoob> whys that nuts?
17:42 <Monkey_arma> tron is such a basic game
17:42 <Monkey_arma> any half decent cpu is enough
17:42 <Monkey_arma> with a gfx too
17:43 <StickyNoob> collision detection is not so simple to do efficiently
17:43 <Monkey_arma> and all the fancy settings that decrease fps are 100% gfx related
17:43 <StickyNoob> certainly the robotics simulator i use the collision detection is VERY cpu intensive
17:43 <Monkey_arma> sticky you can tell fps due to cpu by playing with no effects
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17:43 <Monkey_arma> try playing on your computer without any effects
17:44 <StickyNoob> i do
17:44 <Monkey_arma> so do i
17:44 <StickyNoob> i never turn on effects
17:44 <Monkey_arma> you play on minimum everything?
17:44 <Monkey_arma> are you sure?
17:44 <StickyNoob> yes
17:44 <Monkey_arma> so do i
17:44 <Flex> i don't think it's cache related.. at least nothing major
17:44 <Monkey_arma> but my inbuilt intel shit dont do much 3d accel
17:44 <Flex> what seems major is the 3rd stuff
17:45 <Monkey_arma> sticky do you notice much difference from lots of effects to no effects?
17:46 <StickyNoob> well ok fine whatever provided you are commited that all the problems are the gfx cards fault then get the badass card
17:46 <Monkey_arma> im not gettin any badass card
17:46 <Monkey_arma> i want a half decent cpu and same for gfx
17:46 <StickyNoob> still for £30
17:47 <Monkey_arma> i am willing to pay 80
17:47 <StickyNoob> for the gfx alone?
17:47 <Monkey_arma> for psu, mobo, cpu&fan, gfx
17:47 <StickyNoob> oh
17:47 <Monkey_arma> i can get psu for 5 quid
17:48 <StickyNoob> psu £5, look on your face when it overheats and burns down your house...priceless
17:48 <Monkey_arma> one shop here has 2nd hand athlon64-3000  fan £13
17:48 <Monkey_arma> that is for 2nd hand psu
17:48 <Monkey_arma> 400 watts
17:49 <Monkey_arma> i just need to find parts now..its killing me
17:49 <Monkey_arma> where can i get some second hand parts?
17:49 <Monkey_arma> help meeeeee
17:49 <StickyNoob> ebay
17:50 <Monkey_arma> btw do new mobos have ide interface for dvd roms?
17:50 <Flex> they always add 1
17:50 <Monkey_arma> i have pata drive
17:50 <Monkey_arma> but adaptor is cheap anyway
17:51 <StickyNoob> Flex: note that his definition of new is slightly different to yours and mine
17:51 <Flex> lol
17:51 <StickyNoob> it will be a miricle if the mobo has sata
17:51 <Monkey_arma> no i meant mew like you adn flex
17:51 <Monkey_arma> i just dont need new
17:51 <StickyNoob> yes they normaly have one but in mine its controlled by jmicron and sucks ass
17:52 <StickyNoob> if i plug in a usb device in to the front ports the cd-drive looses power
17:52 <Monkey_arma> so what do you do about dvd player?
17:52 <StickyNoob> not plug in a usb device
17:52 <Monkey_arma> wtf
17:52 <Monkey_arma> do you have a dvd player?
17:52 <StickyNoob> yes
17:52 <StickyNoob> pata
17:52 <Flex> http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/15333/16357/hp-voodoo-omen-pictures-inside.phtml
17:52 <Monkey_arma> and its pata
17:52 <Monkey_arma> oO
17:52 <Flex> "What do the insides of a $7000 PC look like? Cluttered and multi-coloured it seems. "
17:53 <epsy> Flex, that's a bit of a large transition but.. http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/309948183/article.pl :P
17:53 <epsy> oh
17:55 <Flex> interesting epsy..
17:55 <Flex> thanks for making me aware
17:56 <Flex> The PC also gets advanced liquid cooling with copper cooling pipes embedded in the chassis, aircraft-quality quick-release hose connectors, combined in what's apparently "one of the most advanced liquid cooling systems on the planet".
17:57 <Monkey_arma> but who would be stupid enogough to buy that?
17:57 <Flex> me
17:57 <epsy> P4
17:57 <Monkey_arma> p4 lmao
17:58 <Flex> i'd "do it" with that sweet sweeet rig
18:00 <Monkey_arma> right bbl
18:00 <luke-jr> hey
18:00 <luke-jr> this Amazon Kindle thing looks neat
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18:01 <luke-jr> especially the free EVDO internet access included :O
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19:17 <Flex> oh shit lol
19:17 <Flex> cro-2 ger-0
19:18 <madmax> o_o
19:18 <Flex> who's german here!
19:20 <akira_arma> me but i root for mcroatia!
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19:23 <StickyNoob> why?
19:27 <Flex> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/74832/soccer_fights/
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19:27 <Flex> lol at football fights
19:28 <ivantis> will someone try and ping something is wrong with the network im using right now
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19:31 <ivantiss> please?
19:32 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu8tPYUlAtc
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19:32 <Flex> holy shit, some dude just did a tekken move on a guy at 2.14
19:32 <ivantiss> what?
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19:35 <Flex> 2-1 now
19:37 <madmax> haha i've seen that tekken move before
19:37 <madmax> pretty good
19:39 <Flex> lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmL37CyM7tk&feature=related
19:39 <Flex> Ronaldo worst trick^^
19:40 <StickyNoob> ivantis: i cant ping that address
19:40 <ivantis> huh
19:40 <ivantis> i just found out, the power where my server is located is out
19:40 <ivantis> a transformer blew with a big pop
19:41 <StickyNoob> tsk tsk, no mirrored backup on the other side of the world?
19:43 <madmax> passive replication!
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19:44 <ivantis> what did i miss? the laptop im using came unplugged
19:44 <StickyNoob> nothing
19:44 <ivantis> man, this sucks. the power went out at my house!
19:44 <StickyNoob> where do you live?
19:44 <ivantis> kansas
19:45 <StickyNoob> ahh the sticks
19:45 <ivantis> sticks?
19:45 <StickyNoob> middle of nowhere
19:45 <StickyNoob> country
19:45 <ivantis> not quite the middle of no where
19:45 <ivantis> i live in a city
19:45 <ivantis> but right now im in colorado
19:46 <ivantis> where do you live?
19:46 <StickyNoob> england
19:46 <ivantis> ah
19:47 <ivantis> its amazing how fast the internet goes
19:48 <StickyNoob> admitidly probably in a much smaller place than you, our population is only 20,000
19:48 <ivantis> i live in a college city with a bunch of people
19:48 <ivantis> (in the city, not my house)
19:50 <ivantis> how does ping work? if the packet has a timestamp, wouldnt it be a different time where it goes to?
19:50 <ivantis> the internet is amazing
19:51 <Flex> lol
19:51 <StickyNoob> ivantis: the packet does a round trip, its measureing that time
19:51 <ivantis> oh
19:51 <ivantis> i get it
19:52 <ivantis> so it checks how much time between it sends and gets a reply from the server
19:52 <ivantis> the computer that sent it
19:52 <StickyNoob> it yes
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19:52 <StickyNoob> it is mind boggleing you can send a message on a non direct rout from uk to us and back in about 100ms
19:52 <ivantis> hey monkey
19:53 <ivantis> yeah. my house to germany in 250ms
19:53  * ivantis has slow net
19:54 <Monkey_arma> hi ivantis
19:54 <ivantis> i did some math, the internet travels at about 24.25 miles per milisecond with a home-to-server connection
19:54 <ivantis> across the ocean
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19:55 <ivantis> hey monkey, is the nick monkey taken? you can ask freenode to drop it if no one uses it
19:56 <Monkey_arma> ...
19:56 <StickyNoob> hmm thats about 1/8th the speed of light
19:56 <Monkey_arma> its used regularly
19:57 <Monkey_arma> g5 your team really does always lose :)
19:57 <ivantis> i had a good idea for faster internet: it is light that goes through a tube of mirrors! just the speed of light
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19:57 <StickyNoob> ivantis: ever heard of fiber optic?
19:57 <ivantis> yeah
19:57 <G5> You mean my Arma team or the German Sucker Team?
19:58 <ivantis> how does fiber optic work? what is it?
19:58 <akira_arma> thats no soccer!
19:58 <akira_arma> THAT is soccer:
19:58 <StickyNoob> look at what you described, its not far off
19:58 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1213268615/Urban_Football_(II)
19:58 <ivantis> pawesome
19:59 <Monkey_arma> i was referring to german team
19:59 <ivantis> do you need to be in a certain place in the world to get fiber optic service?
19:59 <StickyNoob> ivantis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberoptic
19:59 <Monkey_arma> both really
20:00 <StickyNoob> ivantis: no fiber is very common
20:00 <StickyNoob> you probably have it in your city
20:00 <ivantis> hmm
20:00 <ivantis> is it real expensive?
20:01 <StickyNoob> not really
20:01 <ivantis> i pay about $20 a month for net. is it like that?
20:02 <StickyNoob> whats speed is it/what provider
20:02 <ivantis> dsl i think
20:02 <ivantis> http://kitusa.com
20:03 <StickyNoob> well in the uk fiber starts at about $20 a month
20:03 <Monkey_arma> wrong
20:03 <ivantis> hmm
20:04 <Monkey_arma> im on fibre
20:04 <ivantis> i should look into that
20:04 <Monkey_arma> £4.50 a month
20:04 <StickyNoob> $50 for 20mbs
20:04 <ivantis> whats a good speed?
20:04 <StickyNoob> let me gues monkey you are on a really old tarrif that is no longer offered?
20:05 <Flex> let me guess, monkey is so old he's older then the moon
20:06 <ivantis> his social security number is 1
20:06 <G5> Monkey_arma: U r so right ... u dont even know how right u r. I do not watch football. But everybody told me the German team is so good this time, so I watch some of the game ... u saw how that ends. I do not need to play myself, I can make my team lose from remote ...
20:06 <StickyNoob> or hes on the £4.50 Virgin offer and is conviniently forgetting the £11 phone line he has to also take
20:06 <Monkey_arma> yes
20:06 <madmax> G5: germany played good on their first game
20:06 <Monkey_arma> but thats seperate
20:07 <StickyNoob> so its actualy £15.50 a month
20:07 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob adsl you must pay for phone line too
20:07 <Monkey_arma> bollox
20:07  * StickyNoob slow claps
20:07 <G5> madmax: I wasnt watching the first game, so no wonder
20:07 <Flex> haha G5
20:07 <akira_arma> germna team sucks
20:07 <ivantis> how much is £4.50 in $s?
20:07 <akira_arma> they just arent a good team
20:07 <StickyNoob> ivantis: anyway yes fiber starts at $20 in the UK
20:07 <Monkey_arma> no
20:07 <ivantis> gud
20:08 <Monkey_arma> it starts from about $7
20:08 <akira_arma> NL and spain rock
20:08 <akira_arma> portugal also
20:08 <StickyNoob> $2= about £1
20:08 <Monkey_arma> $8 then
20:08 <Monkey_arma> its not 2 = 1
20:09 <StickyNoob> 1.94...near as damit
20:09 <madmax> *psst* google: "4.5 pounds in dollars"
20:09 <ivantis> ok, im going to eat pizza now, bbs
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20:09 <StickyNoob> tell you what monkey ill refund you the 6 cents difference between $1.94 and £2
20:10 <Monkey_arma> ok
20:10 <StickyNoob> *$2
20:10 <StickyNoob> actualy rounding its 1.95
20:11 <madmax> akira_arma: yeah NL have a pretty good team... curious to see if they keep it up in their next game
20:11 <Monkey_arma> i think holland are the favourites
20:11 <akira_arma> they deserve the title imho
20:11 <Monkey_arma> for me
20:12 <akira_arma> they always play very good soccer
20:12 <akira_arma> fast
20:12 <Monkey_arma> and van der saar is the best player in the tournament
20:12 <akira_arma> wtf
20:12 <Monkey_arma> wtf?
20:17  * madmax agrees on the affirmative wtf
20:17 <madmax> and you can't even decide that with just one match
20:17 <madmax> I wonder if a goalkeeper was ever chosen as best player
20:18 <Monkey_arma> max i have watched van der saar in many matches
20:19 <Monkey_arma> including in the european championship
20:19 <madmax> you said "best player in the tournament"
20:19 <Monkey_arma> damn right
20:19 <Monkey_arma> he is the best player in the tournament
20:19 <Monkey_arma> before the first match was even played he was the best player
20:19 <P4> #ping
20:19 <Monkey_arma> today he is still the best player
20:20 <P4> Unban tronner! :þ
20:20 <Monkey_arma> he is the best player taking part in the tournament
20:20 <P4> hi Monkey_arma :)
20:20 <madmax> that's a pretty good argument
20:21 <Monkey_arma> hey P4
20:21 <akira_arma> i am pretty sure ronaldo is equal
20:21 <akira_arma> also
20:21 <Monkey_arma> no way
20:21 <Monkey_arma> hes not a team player
20:21 <Monkey_arma> i prefer deco
20:21 <akira_arma> they just play different
20:21 <madmax> lol
20:21 <akira_arma> since when has not being team player to do with the "best"
20:22 <madmax> deco was the best in portugal's last game
20:22 <akira_arma> its your perception of best
20:22 <madmax> yet, ronaldo received man of the match heh
20:22 <Monkey_arma> ...ty ty
20:22 <Monkey_arma> ronaldo is all show
20:22 <Monkey_arma> yes he is skilled
20:22 <Monkey_arma> but keeps losing the ball
20:22 <akira_arma> also wayne rooney is a good candidate
20:22 <Monkey_arma> because he wont PASS
20:22 <Monkey_arma> rooney?
20:22 <akira_arma> he is not subtle
20:22 <Monkey_arma> he is in the tournament is he/
20:22 <akira_arma> but effiecient
20:22 <Monkey_arma> er...
20:22 <akira_arma> isnt he?
20:22 <akira_arma> no clue
20:22 <akira_arma> :D
20:23 <madmax> -_-
20:23 <Monkey_arma> lol
20:23 <akira_arma> i dont follow soccer that much
20:23 <Monkey_arma> slightly worring you give me a wtf
20:23 <Monkey_arma> :)
20:23 <Monkey_arma> england didnt make it
20:23 <Monkey_arma> but yes he is their best player
20:23 <akira_arma> i give you a wtf when you say something that is based on your perception
20:23 <akira_arma> as
20:23 <akira_arma> general
20:23 <Monkey_arma> and equal to ronaldo
20:23 <akira_arma> truth
20:24 <akira_arma> also.. a team needs 11 players
20:24 <akira_arma> so if you put
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i think torres is as good as ronaldo
20:24 <akira_arma> 11 van der saar
20:24 <akira_arma> they wont make a good team
20:24 <akira_arma> ;)
20:24 <madmax> Monkey_arma: man united?
20:24 <Monkey_arma> no max
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i just think they are equal
20:24 <Monkey_arma> i prefer rooney in fact
20:24 <akira_arma> also 2020
20:24 <akira_arma> style
20:24 <akira_arma> suck
20:24 <akira_arma> s
20:24 <akira_arma> :(
20:25 <Monkey_arma> france should have kept zidane in squad
20:25 <madmax> which team do you support then?
20:25 <Monkey_arma> couldnt have been worse than that crap
20:25 <Monkey_arma> i dont like premiership because its all about money
20:26 <Monkey_arma> so i only get excited at euro or world cup
20:26 <Monkey_arma> and i dont support england
20:26 <Monkey_arma> :)
20:27 <madmax> heh
20:27 <Monkey_arma> i just like to watch good football
20:29 <madmax> well, there are very good matches in the premiership
20:30 <Monkey_arma> some
20:30 <madmax> don't see how money influences on-field skill :-P
20:30 <Monkey_arma> but the premiership is ruined
20:31 <Monkey_arma> ok well for a start in england you must have satellite tv to watch premiership
20:31 <Monkey_arma> thats a pretty damn good reason
20:31 <Monkey_arma> sky OWN the bloody premiership
20:32 <madmax> in portugal there's only one match per weekend on TV. rest is on paid channels
20:32 <madmax> it sucks
20:33 <Monkey_arma> exactly
20:33 <madmax> at least they show champions league/national cup games
20:34 <Monkey_arma> yes we only get euro, world cup and championship /cup games
20:35 <Flex> who cares about the rest
20:35 <Flex> they suck
20:35 <Monkey_arma> exactly
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20:37 <madmax> what do you have at home? analogue tv?
20:37 <Monkey_arma> yes
20:37 <Monkey_arma> but digital is the same
20:46 <Flex> haha
20:46 <Flex> shut up!
20:48 <Monkey_arma> oh sorry flex yes we get super channels like bbc3 and kiddies tv and shopping channel....all wonderful digital channels
20:49 <Monkey_arma> (not)
20:49 <Flex> E4, ITV sub channels, BBC sub channels, random decent channels like "Dave" not to forget Film4
20:49 <Flex> intractive for stuff like Snooker
20:52 <Flex> http://www.freeview.co.uk/channels/?__SITE=public&p[0]=channels
20:53 <Flex> it's like if you've got only the normal channels, doesn't mean they're any better then the ones you're being sarcastic about
20:53 <Flex> they suck just as much
20:54 <Monkey_arma> i didnt say  they were better
20:54 <Monkey_arma> i am saying that digital is no better than analogue
20:54 <Flex> yes it is
20:54 <Monkey_arma> ye right
20:55 <Monkey_arma> hardly
20:55 <Flex> better channels, more channels and much more clearer
20:55 <Monkey_arma> hah
20:55 <Monkey_arma> no
20:55 <Flex> any idiot can tell the quality difference
20:55 <Monkey_arma> ye right
20:55 <Monkey_arma> ive watched digital
20:55 <Flex> it's obvious
20:55 <Monkey_arma> dont think that digital makes it better quality
20:55 <Flex> also with digital you get tv guides
20:55 <madmax> well I know here digital is much better than analogue heh.
20:55 <Monkey_arma> it just means you can have more chans over the range
20:55 <Monkey_arma> its not here
20:56 <Monkey_arma> the picture is the same
20:56 <Flex> trust me it's better here too, monkey is just 20-50 years behind the times
20:56 <madmax> I'm not talking about image quality
20:56 <Monkey_arma> unless you live somewhere remote
20:56 <madmax> on analogue we have 4 channels only, digital are much more, and better
20:56 <Monkey_arma> ok well as far as programs go digital has more channels all of them shit
20:56 <Monkey_arma> in UK at least
20:56 <Flex> dude all of them is as shit as the ones you've got on analog
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> that's true in the US too
20:57 <Flex> sume even better to watch
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's why we tossed our TV out on the curb
20:57 <Monkey_arma> heh
20:57 <StickyNoob> lies QVC FTW
20:57 <Monkey_arma> sticky lol.
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> if we actually got taxed for our TV, we'd never have had one in the first place ;)
20:57 <StickyNoob> dosent america tax tv?
20:58 <Flex> they live off commercials
20:58 <StickyNoob> well i suppose you dont have any state funded channels
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> we do, but the networks are trying to get rid of them
21:00 <Lucifer_arma> they're funded by grants and donations, and appear to just run Sesame Street, miscellaneous kid programming, and imported UK shows
21:00 <StickyNoob> pbs?
21:00 <StickyNoob> thats not state funded tho is it?
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> it is, actually
21:01 <StickyNoob> oh
21:01 <StickyNoob> hmm
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> government funds don't cover even half of their expenses, though
21:02 <StickyNoob> sweet you get uk shows
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> no, other people, people that own TVs, get UK shows ;)
21:02 <StickyNoob> heh
21:06 <akira_arma> hey lucifer
21:06 <Flex> austria can't fucking score
21:06 <akira_arma> I am still waiting....
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21:19 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer_arma while compiling ftgl i get errors:
21:20 <Monkey_arma> creating FTGLMFontDemo
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/demo'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> Making all in docs
21:20 <Monkey_arma> /usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> touch stamp-eps
21:20 <Monkey_arma> /usr/bin/doxygen doxygen.cfg stamp-eps
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: *** [stamp-doxygen] Segmentation fault
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5/docs'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/Archive/software/ftgl/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5'
21:20 <Monkey_arma> make: *** [all] Error 2
21:20 <Monkey_arma> any ideas?
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21:28 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_arma: sorry, no ideas, ftgl comes in a binary package for me
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21:32 <Monkey_arma> k thx
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