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Log from 2008-06-06: --- Day changed Fri Jun 06 2008 00:01 -!- Lucifer_pen [n=Miranda@m20677151229.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron 00:08 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9C856.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:10 -!- Lackadaisical [n=menno@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #armagetron [] 00:36 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-091-089-163-039.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit ["leaving"] 00:41 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["leaving"] 00:48 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 00:52 -!- The_Docto [n=ttech@74.86.163.197] has joined #armagetron 00:59 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:22 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:30 -!- The_Docto is now known as The_Doctor 01:31 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit ["I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!"] 01:31 -!- The_Doctor is now known as Ttech 01:53 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron 01:54 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:55 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron 01:55 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871E6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:10 -!- Lucifer_pen [n=Miranda@m20677151229.austincc.edu] has quit ["Core dumped!"] 02:17 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-020-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron 02:25 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-020-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 03:12 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has quit [] 03:29 -!- ivantis [i=479ed13a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-38e4d129e7f027c9] has joined #armagetron 03:30 <ivantis> hellooo? 03:30 <ivantis> i know someone is there 03:35 <ivantis> @!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 03:35 <ivantis> who is there? 03:36 <ivantis> #ls ivantis 03:36 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 22 hours 4 minutes ago. 03:37 <ivantis> ..................................... 03:44 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:57 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron 04:07 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 04:14 -!- GodTodd__ [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 04:20 <ivantis> is anyone there NOW? 04:23 <ivantis> come on! 04:23 <ivantis> is no one seriously online? 04:23 <ivantis> no one? 04:23 <ivantis> at all? 04:24 -!- GodTodd_ [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [No route to host] 04:24 <ivantis> #ls |Dale 04:24 <armabot> ivantis: timed out 04:24 <ivantis> #ls lm8o 04:24 <armabot> ivantis: lm8o has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 4 hours 26 minutes ago. 04:33 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-170-145-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [No route to host] 04:34 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E75F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 04:40 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-24-30-130-132.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 04:57 -!- ivantis [i=479ed13a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-38e4d129e7f027c9] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 04:57 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as luke-jr 05:35 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:48 <Lucifer> Since I've been beating the tar out of the AI tanks in Atanks, I've decided to handicap myself 05:48 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma another bottle of win 05:48 <armabot> I have sent another bottle of win to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly. 05:49 <Lucifer> he needs as much win as he can get 06:01 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, I would say so 06:02 -!- Ttech2 [n=ttech@adsl-69-235-193-139.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #armagetron 06:03 -!- Ttech2 [n=ttech@adsl-69-235-193-139.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Success] 06:23 * Lucifer wonders if there's any amount of wine he can drink to give the ai's in Atanks a fair game 06:23 * Lucifer considers playing scorched3d instead 06:28 <Ttech> <The_Master> Nil, dude... My source consists of 1366 lines of code - 0 System files, 12 Modules, 2 Config files. I am not the only one surely I am not.:-) If it were easy I would like to do that.:-) No I am written in PHP. Type "help" or "version" for more info Only 3, 2 of which shouldn't be here imo I want you to draft up a layout for the interface to SQL engines of varying types My brother has a 2m antenna tuner lmao there is only o 07:14 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@132.111-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:36 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@132.111-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 08:09 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9E75F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871E6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 08:32 <akira_arma> O.o 09:14 -!- z-man-work [n=moos@l06.thp.uni-koeln.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:17 -!- z-man-work [n=moos@l06.thp.uni-koeln.de] has joined #armagetron 09:23 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-009-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron 09:43 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@15.24-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 10:30 -!- hang3r [n=hang3r@ppp121-44-214-126.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #Armagetron 10:35 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871E6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:38 -!- hang3r [n=hang3r@ppp121-44-214-126.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:03 <Lucifer> #math calc 34-17 11:03 <armabot> Lucifer: 17 11:23 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@adsl-70-240-13-58.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit ["Won't my momma be so proud of me!"] 11:50 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-009-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 12:20 <eddiefantastic> Lucifer: Are you sure zones v2 is working? last time I tried it the networking side of things was seriously buggy to the point of unusable 12:20 <eddiefantastic> and ruby? what is that supposed to do? I though that was another unfinished project 12:31 <akira_arma> :O 12:32 <akira_arma> someone put up an armagetron torrent 12:32 <akira_arma> O.o 13:21 <StickyNoob> why? 13:21 <StickyNoob> its lik 5mb ist it? 13:22 <StickyNoob> *like 13:25 <akira_arma> yea 13:25 <akira_arma> 2,5 13:25 <akira_arma> but 13:25 <akira_arma> i mean its not that hard to dl from the site.. 13:25 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-186.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 13:26 <StickyNoob> hmm it would take me longer to start up the torrent than just to download straight from the site 13:27 <StickyNoob> and torrents are painfuly slow at the start 13:32 <akira_arma> wow! 13:32 <akira_arma> watch that 13:32 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1212656744/Office_Worker_Loses_It 13:32 <akira_arma> i ENDORSE that guxy 13:46 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 13:51 -!- Monkey_arma [n=Monkey@unaffiliated/monkeyarma] has joined #armagetron 14:06 <madmax> these 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[n=Concord@pool-96-237-56-244.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 19:44 <Concord> #aka Concord 19:44 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["leaving"] 19:44 <armabot> Concord: ¿29096 adidas concord 19:44 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-96-237-56-244.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has left #armagetron [] 19:49 -!- madmax [n=madmax@89-180-17-97.net.novis.pt] has joined #armagetron 19:55 -!- flashyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 19:55 -!- flashyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:26 -!- pseigo_bigscreen [n=pseigo@S0106001cf0b7d972.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron 20:26 <noob13> hi! 20:38 <epsy> hi 20:38 <epsy> #aka ¦×¦epsy 20:38 <armabot> epsy: ¿26231 tiche |x|epsy z0mgz0r 0:epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/test 20:39 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has joined #armagetron 20:39 <epsy> #aka 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz 20:39 <armabot> epsy: ¿29191 |x|flash 0:flashy@forums 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz 20:39 <epsy> O_o 20:51 <StickyNoob> #aka Sticky 20:51 <armabot> StickyNoob: ¿18907 |admin|_sticky |x|_sticky tag|sticky sticky 0:Sticky@x 20:52 <StickyNoob> how boring am i 20:52 <madmax> not much creativity there 20:53 <StickyNoob> naa i just dont understand smurfing 21:01 <Monkey_arma> me too i HATE smurfing 21:01 <Flex> i like smurfing smurfs :D 21:01 <Monkey_arma> flex you gotta help me decide on hardware 21:02 <Flex> ok what they got! 21:03 <Monkey_arma> well... 21:04 <Monkey_arma> i went to 4 shops 21:04 <Monkey_arma> one is second hand only but older stuff 21:04 <Monkey_arma> one has some second hand things in all time 21:04 <Monkey_arma> others first hand 21:04 <Flex> what about online bundles.. there's some decent stuff online bundled.. 21:04 -!- flashyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 21:05 <Monkey_arma> hiflasfhly 21:05 <Flex> bundled bundled bundles bundles bundles bundles bundleled 21:05 <Monkey_arma> online i dont like using online 21:05 <Monkey_arma> and p&p 21:05 <Flex> stop being an old man! 21:05 <flashyy> hi 21:05 <Flex> flash, you might not of noticed it.. but you've got an extra y there 21:05 <Flex> ;) 21:06 <Monkey_arma> flex, i have 2 choices from my perspective 21:06 <Monkey_arma> first hand is too much money to waste just for tron 21:06 <Monkey_arma> so... 21:06 <Flex> just for? don't you play other games or do other stuff that takes resources? 21:06 <Monkey_arma> no 21:06 <Monkey_arma> i hate videos and other games 21:07 -!- flashyyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 21:07 <Monkey_arma> so just internet, general stuff 21:07 <Monkey_arma> and tron 21:07 <Monkey_arma> anyway 21:07 <Flex> you're like 20years behind times Monkey_arma 21:07 <Monkey_arma> the second hand guy reckons that he only really seems to have 1.8ghz P4 with 32meg gfx card 21:07 <Flex> you don't even have youtube! 21:08 <Monkey_arma> thank fuck i dont 21:08 <Flex> there's alot of lesbian porn on youtube, that shit is banging.. 21:08 <Flex> missing out big time! 21:08 <Monkey_arma> now compared to my P3-900mhz and intel (uses system ram) 21:09 <Monkey_arma> do you think that will be fine for tron for me? 21:09 <Flex> is the card agp? 21:09 <Monkey_arma> yes 21:09 <Flex> i don't think so 21:10 <Flex> it would be better then what you got for sure.. 21:10 <Monkey_arma> well P4 is better than P3 so its more than double cpu 21:10 <Flex> but depending on the card.. no real improvement.. 21:10 <Monkey_arma> and my intel builtin has only a little bit of 3D accel 21:10 <Monkey_arma> i dont care about fancy grahics detail 21:10 <Flex> you care about fps 21:10 <Monkey_arma> i hate the floor etc 21:11 <Monkey_arma> yes 21:11 <Monkey_arma> what do you have ? 21:11 <Monkey_arma> gfx wise 21:11 <Flex> x850 pe 21:11 <Monkey_arma> ram? 21:11 <Flex> oops x800 pe 21:11 <StickyNoob> not all P4's are better than all p3's some are slower 21:11 <Monkey_arma> lol 21:11 <Flex> i got 1gb rap 21:11 <Flex> ram 21:12 <Monkey_arma> a P4 -1.8ghz is more than double P3-900mhz surely 21:12 <Flex> what exactly does arma care about when we focus on "fps" 21:12 <Monkey_arma> and i meant ram on your gfx card you plank 21:12 <StickyNoob> and any money you save buying a p4 will be added on to your electricity bill 21:12 <Monkey_arma> sticky my bill i have just got through for electric 21:12 <Flex> oh 250mb 21:12 <Flex> or something 21:12 <Monkey_arma> its 60 quid for 3 months 21:12 <Monkey_arma> thats fine 21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i want to get a p3 and no fps? 21:13 <Monkey_arma> fuck that 21:13 <StickyNoob> heh 21:13 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend StickyNoob ? 21:13 <Monkey_arma> Flex anyway the other shop has stuff in but its random 21:13 <StickyNoob> go old amd, celeron, or core 2 21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i could wait for mobo+cpu+etc 21:14 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob why? 21:14 <Flex> yeah amd beats intel easly on the budget.. 21:14 <Monkey_arma> ive got p3 celeron 21:14 <Monkey_arma> budget is irrelevant 21:14 <Monkey_arma> second hand is fuck all 21:14 <StickyNoob> old amd's beat intel on budget 21:14 <Flex> power for performance amd beats intel on the low end stuff 21:14 <Monkey_arma> put it this way, today that other shop had p4-3ghz+ fan 13 quid 21:15 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9C4D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 21:15 <Flex> 13quid? 21:15 <Monkey_arma> yes 21:15 <Flex> was it broken.. 21:15 <Monkey_arma> no 21:15 <Monkey_arma> but no mobo 21:15 <Flex> ohh right 21:15 <Monkey_arma> so i could get it but i cant find a friggen mobo 21:16 <Flex> there's a cheap mobo on ebuyer for £30 21:16 <Monkey_arma> 30 fuck that 21:16 <Flex> man you make me feel like a big spender.. 21:16 <Monkey_arma> i would spend 80 quid if i got good stuff 21:17 <Monkey_arma> but i may just spend less and upgrade in a year 21:17 <StickyNoob> old athlons will cost the same as your p4 give similar performance but better power useage 21:17 <Flex> focus on the graphics right.. then add on the mobo and cpu 21:17 <Flex> imo 21:17 <Flex> best way you'll get arma performance 21:18 <Monkey_arma> well gfx is easier 21:18 <Flex> if you go the mobo and cpu route you'll end up with a slight improvement which all that budget talk would be useless 21:18 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend as minimum? 21:18 <Monkey_arma> 128 meg? 21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 64? 21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 32? 21:18 <StickyNoob> heh 21:19 <Flex> arma isn't concerned about it's ram.. right.. 21:19 <Monkey_arma> are you dumb? 21:19 * StickyNoob has a embedded pc with more cpu power and ram than monkeys new pc 21:19 <Monkey_arma> i mean your fucking gfx ram 21:19 <Flex> that's what i'm tlaking about 21:19 <Flex> jeez 21:19 <Monkey_arma> flex the more ram your gfx, the later the model so the faster 21:19 <Monkey_arma> ram on gfx is good base to go on for speed of gfx 21:19 <Flex> it's not all about the ram 21:19 <Monkey_arma> i know 21:20 <Monkey_arma> but faster cards have more ram 21:20 <Monkey_arma> is a good indicator of speed 21:20 <Flex> not really.. 21:20 <Monkey_arma> ok here.... mobo+athlon1250+fan £7 21:21 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21 <Monkey_arma> can any agp mobo take any agp card? 21:22 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob ? 21:22 <Flex> yeah....... 21:22 <Monkey_arma> dont some things need the mobo to support it too for those effects to work? 21:22 <Monkey_arma> im sure i heard that 21:22 <Monkey_arma> like fastwrite 21:23 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: what is your gfx budget 21:23 <Flex> as long as the mobo can take x8 agp speed should be fine 21:24 <Monkey_arma> £30 21:24 <Flex> or whatever agp max speed is 21:24 <Monkey_arma> but i dont want other part of computer to be a bottleneck 21:24 <Monkey_arma> i would prefer to spend less than 30 tho 21:24 <Monkey_arma> it looks best to just upgrade for a year then do a proper upgrade 21:25 <Flex> with £30, the best option for more FPS is going old school with crappy graphics but performance 21:25 -!- flashyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:25 <Flex> so your cycle looks like a cube from sega 21:26 <Monkey_arma> flex read better 21:26 -!- flashyyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 21:26 <Monkey_arma> £30 is for just the gfx card 21:26 <Flex> that's what i'm talking about.. 21:26 <epsy> .g 30 £ in € 21:26 <Flex> read better! 21:26 <epsy> #g 30 £ in € 21:26 <armabot> epsy: 30 UK£ = 37.3950814 € 21:26 <epsy> man that's..low 21:26 <epsy> for a gfx 21:27 <Flex> not possible to get a real improvement with that 21:27 <epsy> indeed 21:27 <Flex> bang for bunk would be very low 21:27 <Monkey_arma> rubbish 21:27 <Monkey_arma> second hand i am talking 21:27 <Monkey_arma> they have 128 meg gfx cards barnd new for 30 quid 21:27 <Monkey_arma> but they are pci-e 21:27 <Flex> even better 21:28 <Monkey_arma> you guys are not wise 21:28 <Flex> you'll get better performance with pci 21:28 <Monkey_arma> but i cant get secondhand pci-e mobos 21:28 <Monkey_arma> the price is way more for that and cpu 21:28 <Monkey_arma> well maybe not cpu idk 21:28 <Flex> what you on about! pci mobo for £30 on pc world 21:29 <Flex> check the sales section 21:29 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 21:29 <Monkey_arma> ibet its shite 21:29 <Monkey_arma> can it take my pata HD? 21:29 <Monkey_arma> i bet not 21:29 <Flex> my dads one is standard 21:29 <epsy> 'standart' ha-ha 21:29 <Monkey_arma> ok i will go to pc world and have a look 21:29 <Flex> huh? 21:30 <Flex> online you'll get the same price too 21:30 <epsy> i bet he actually meant he would look on their website, but that he will look later 21:30 <Monkey_arma> ! 21:30 <Monkey_arma> i meant to the store! 21:30 <Flex> i meant online on other online stores 21:31 <Monkey_arma> but fine i will look at their shit site now 21:31 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: see how much you can pick up an 8500gt for 21:31 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob brand new or second hand? 21:31 <Flex> second hand obviously 21:31 <Monkey_arma> second hand is pot luck as to what is in 21:31 <StickyNoob> naa i can find it new for 35 21:32 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412 21:32 <Flex> you can?? 21:32 <Monkey_arma> how much ram on the 8500gt? 21:32 <StickyNoob> http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675 21:33 <epsy> Intel 865G Chipset; 21:33 <StickyNoob> check uot: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/3dmark06-v1-0-2-hdr-sm3-0-score,538.html 21:33 <epsy> .. 21:33 <Flex> oh oops that was an agp mobo 21:34 <epsy> plus it's a motherboard, not a gfx card :) 21:34 <Monkey_arma> intel ftw! 21:34 <epsy> ftl 21:34 <StickyNoob> w 21:34 <epsy> at least, for GFX 21:34 <Flex> we're looking for a mobo you arseface 21:34 <Monkey_arma> we want both 21:34 <Flex> cheapest pci-e on ebuyer is £50 21:34 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/125082 21:34 <Flex> i think 21:34 <epsy> don't opt for an intel-based GFX system 21:35 <epsy> that's all i can say 21:35 <StickyNoob> intel gfx is good for linux users 21:36 <Monkey_arma> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? 21:36 <Monkey_arma> epsy tell him he is wrrooooooonnnng 21:36 <StickyNoob> why is that? 21:36 <epsy> StickyNoob, wrong. 21:36 <Monkey_arma> intel is bad on all computers 21:36 <StickyNoob> why? 21:36 <Monkey_arma> fuck that 21:36 <epsy> esp. in linux 21:36 <Monkey_arma> omg 21:37 <Monkey_arma> im on intel now 21:37 <epsy> me too 21:37 <Monkey_arma> fuck that 21:37 <StickyNoob> me too 21:37 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati yes? 21:37 <epsy> and i pretty much regret it 21:37 <epsy> yes 21:37 <Flex> intel so far is pwning amd.. 21:37 <Flex> wtf you on about 21:37 <Monkey_arma> flex omg lol 21:37 <Monkey_arma> gfx not cpu!!!! 21:37 <epsy> wait, we're talking about GFX! 21:38 <Flex> they're so pwning amd.. they're moving onto graphic cards and playing with nvidia 21:38 <Monkey_arma> man i hate pcs 21:38 <StickyNoob> well evidence such as OMG and intel suck aside what is wrong with them? 21:38 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ati sucks at linux 21:38 <Monkey_arma> right ok 21:38 <Flex> nothing, they're not with it 21:38 <Monkey_arma> intel is suck ass 21:39 <StickyNoob> good argument 21:39 <Monkey_arma> thx 21:39 <Flex> i'd go with intel on top end systems anyday 21:39 <epsy> Monkey_arma, nvidia works quite well, except if you'restrong-headed at only using free softw 21:39 <Flex> say what you want 21:39 <Flex> go check the benchmarks.. 21:39 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati > intel 21:39 <Monkey_arma> end of 21:39 <epsy> StickyNoob, until the great fps improvements zman did, i had like 10-30fps at arma 21:40 <Monkey_arma> oh btw epsy trunk > 2.8.2.1 21:40 <epsy> do you think that's better than ati? 21:40 <epsy> (ati = amd btw) 21:40 <Monkey_arma> yes 21:40 <Flex> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-101-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1015&name=Gigabyte%20GA-P31-DS3L%20Intel%20P31%20(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard 21:40 <Monkey_arma> but when you talk about gfx you say ati 21:40 <Monkey_arma> overclockers good god 21:40 <epsy> jeez you don't want overclocking stuff 21:41 <Flex> what.. that#s £31.. 21:41 <epsy> then games are unplayable because of sysclock glitches 21:41 <Flex> dude.. they don't overclock everything thet sell.. 21:41 <Flex> does it say "OVER CLOCKED" on the item anywhere you fucking fagfuckface! 21:42 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: anyway lookat the 8500gt 21:42 <epsy> anyway, ati and intel driver support for linux sucks big time 21:42 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob i doubt i can choose that much what i want 21:42 <StickyNoob> you can pick that up new 21:42 <Flex> linux sucks big time 21:42 <Flex> yes, i said it 21:42 <Flex> you guys also suck big time 21:42 <Monkey_arma> but will a lame agp mobo bottleneck that card? 21:43 <Flex> it's not agp 21:43 <Flex> it's pci 21:43 <StickyNoob> Flex: so hows those creative drivers in vista working out? 21:43 <Flex> fantastic 21:43 <Monkey_arma> ok so you are saying i can go to pc world and get £30 mobo and £30 gfx? 21:43 <Flex> they're only doing vista.. they've stopped supporting xp :) 21:44 <Flex> Monkey_arma, check the overclockers mobo link i gave you, that's £30 21:44 <Flex> then take http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675 21:44 <Flex> that's your mobo and gfx covered 21:44 <Flex> then go find a cpu 21:44 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has quit ["leaving"] 21:44 <Flex> or if you want to go amd based mobo, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=805 21:44 <Flex> then find cpu and ram 21:44 <Flex> and you're done 21:44 <Monkey_arma> flex you are insane 21:45 <Flex> what! that sounds like the best idea 21:46 <Monkey_arma> btw why is DDR2 cheaper than DDR1? 21:46 <StickyNoob> since they dont make ddr1 anymore 21:47 <StickyNoob> its like buying a triumph 21:47 <Monkey_arma> k 21:47 <Flex> what's wrong with my idea Monkey_arma 21:47 <Monkey_arma> right well you guys have helped me make up my mind 21:47 <Monkey_arma> you are both mad so i do the opposite of what you say 21:47 <Monkey_arma> i will get second hand basic stuff 21:51 <Flex> StickyNoob, do you still have that link to the graphic card FPS list 21:51 <Flex> if you don't mind, can't find that again 22:05 -!- Ttech is now known as The_Doctoir 22:05 -!- The_Doctoir is now known as The_Doctor 22:09 -!- flashyy [n=flashyy@p57BB494C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 22:10 <Monkey_arma> flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaashyyyyy 22:13 -!- G5 [n=G5@p579629BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Armagetron 22:27 <Flex> http://www.goosh.org/ 22:28 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with goosh 22:28 <armabot> epsy: [22:25:46] <epsy> http://goosh.org/ 22:28 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@got.r0ot.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:28 <epsy> that was yesterday i guess 22:29 <Flex> lol! 22:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, #last doesn't show date in timestamps 22:29 <Flex> i don't see it in my logs 22:29 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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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