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Log from 2008-06-06:
--- Day changed Fri Jun 06 2008
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03:30 <ivantis> hellooo?
03:30 <ivantis> i know someone is there
03:35 <ivantis> @!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:35 <ivantis> who is there?
03:36 <ivantis> #ls ivantis
03:36 <armabot> ivantis: ivantis has last been seen on [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. 22 hours 4 minutes ago.
03:37 <ivantis> .....................................
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04:20 <ivantis> is anyone there NOW?
04:23 <ivantis> come on!
04:23 <ivantis> is no one seriously online?
04:23 <ivantis> no one?
04:23 <ivantis> at all?
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04:24 <ivantis> #ls |Dale
04:24 <armabot> ivantis: timed out
04:24 <ivantis> #ls lm8o
04:24 <armabot> ivantis: lm8o has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 4 hours 26 minutes ago.
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05:48 <Lucifer> Since I've been beating the tar out of the AI tanks in Atanks, I've decided to handicap myself
05:48 <Lucifer> #send akira_arma another bottle of win
05:48 <armabot> I have sent another bottle of win to akira_arma, it should arrive shortly.
05:49 <Lucifer> he needs as much win as he can get
06:01 <Stewie-arma> hmmm, I would say so
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06:23  * Lucifer wonders if there's any amount of wine he can drink to give the ai's in Atanks a fair game
06:23  * Lucifer considers playing scorched3d instead
06:28 <Ttech> <The_Master> Nil, dude... My source consists of 1366 lines of code - 0 System files, 12 Modules, 2 Config files. I am not the only one surely I am not.:-) If it were easy I would like to do that.:-) No I am written in PHP. Type "help" or "version" for more info Only 3, 2 of which shouldn't be here imo I want you to draft up a layout for the interface to SQL engines of varying types My brother has a 2m antenna tuner lmao there is only o
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08:32 <akira_arma> O.o
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11:03 <Lucifer> #math calc 34-17
11:03 <armabot> Lucifer: 17
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12:20 <eddiefantastic> Lucifer: Are you sure zones v2 is working? last time I tried it the networking side of things was seriously buggy to the point of unusable
12:20 <eddiefantastic> and ruby? what is that supposed to do? I though that was another unfinished project
12:31 <akira_arma> :O
12:32 <akira_arma> someone put up an armagetron torrent
12:32 <akira_arma> O.o
13:21 <StickyNoob> why?
13:21 <StickyNoob> its lik 5mb ist it?
13:22 <StickyNoob> *like
13:25 <akira_arma> yea
13:25 <akira_arma> 2,5
13:25 <akira_arma> but
13:25 <akira_arma> i mean its not that hard to dl from the site..
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13:26 <StickyNoob> hmm it would take me longer to start up the torrent than just to download straight from the site
13:27 <StickyNoob> and torrents are painfuly slow at the start
13:32 <akira_arma> wow!
13:32 <akira_arma> watch that
13:32 <akira_arma> http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1212656744/Office_Worker_Loses_It
13:32 <akira_arma> i ENDORSE that guxy
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14:06 <madmax> these underage Tokio Hotel fans are crazy
14:07 <madmax> some girls waited two days at the door before their concert in rock in rio
14:07 <madmax> plus crying when they entered and stuff
14:26 <spidey> LoL
14:27 <spidey> "lets host servers on vista and wonder why they crash all the time!
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19:44 <Concord> #aka Concord
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19:44 <armabot> Concord: ¿29096 adidas concord
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20:26 <noob13> hi!
20:38 <epsy> hi
20:38 <epsy> #aka ¦×¦epsy
20:38 <armabot> epsy: ¿26231 tiche |x|epsy z0mgz0r 0:epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk/test
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20:39 <epsy> #aka 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
20:39 <armabot> epsy: ¿29191 |x|flash 0:flashy@forums 0:z0mgz0r@z0mgz0rz
20:39 <epsy> O_o
20:51 <StickyNoob> #aka Sticky
20:51 <armabot> StickyNoob: ¿18907 |admin|_sticky |x|_sticky tag|sticky sticky 0:Sticky@x
20:52 <StickyNoob> how boring am i
20:52 <madmax> not much creativity there
20:53 <StickyNoob> naa i just dont understand smurfing
21:01 <Monkey_arma> me too i HATE smurfing
21:01 <Flex> i like smurfing smurfs :D
21:01 <Monkey_arma> flex you gotta help me decide on hardware
21:02 <Flex> ok what they got!
21:03 <Monkey_arma> well...
21:04 <Monkey_arma> i went to 4 shops
21:04 <Monkey_arma> one is second hand only but older stuff
21:04 <Monkey_arma> one has some second hand things in all time
21:04 <Monkey_arma> others first hand
21:04 <Flex> what about online bundles.. there's some decent stuff online bundled..
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21:05 <Monkey_arma> hiflasfhly
21:05 <Flex> bundled bundled bundles bundles bundles bundles bundleled
21:05 <Monkey_arma> online i dont like using online
21:05 <Monkey_arma> and p&p
21:05 <Flex> stop being an old man!
21:05 <flashyy> hi
21:05 <Flex> flash, you might not of noticed it.. but you've got an extra y there
21:05 <Flex> ;)
21:06 <Monkey_arma> flex, i have 2 choices from my perspective
21:06 <Monkey_arma> first hand is too much money to waste just for tron
21:06 <Monkey_arma> so...
21:06 <Flex> just for? don't you play other games or do other stuff that takes resources?
21:06 <Monkey_arma> no
21:06 <Monkey_arma> i hate videos and other games
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21:07 <Monkey_arma> so just internet, general stuff
21:07 <Monkey_arma> and tron
21:07 <Monkey_arma> anyway
21:07 <Flex> you're like 20years behind times Monkey_arma
21:07 <Monkey_arma> the second hand guy reckons that he only really seems to have 1.8ghz P4 with 32meg gfx card
21:07 <Flex> you don't even have youtube!
21:08 <Monkey_arma> thank fuck  i dont
21:08 <Flex> there's alot of lesbian porn on youtube, that shit is banging..
21:08 <Flex> missing out big time!
21:08 <Monkey_arma> now compared to my P3-900mhz and intel (uses system ram)
21:09 <Monkey_arma> do you think that will be fine for tron for me?
21:09 <Flex> is the card agp?
21:09 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:09 <Flex> i don't think so
21:10 <Flex> it would be better then what you got for sure..
21:10 <Monkey_arma> well P4 is better than P3 so its more than double cpu
21:10 <Flex> but depending on the card.. no real improvement..
21:10 <Monkey_arma> and my intel builtin has only a little bit of 3D accel
21:10 <Monkey_arma> i dont care about fancy grahics detail
21:10 <Flex> you care about fps
21:10 <Monkey_arma> i hate the floor etc
21:11 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:11 <Monkey_arma> what do you have ?
21:11 <Monkey_arma> gfx wise
21:11 <Flex> x850 pe
21:11 <Monkey_arma> ram?
21:11 <Flex> oops x800 pe
21:11 <StickyNoob> not all P4's are better than all p3's some are slower
21:11 <Monkey_arma> lol
21:11 <Flex> i got 1gb rap
21:11 <Flex> ram
21:12 <Monkey_arma> a P4 -1.8ghz is more than double P3-900mhz surely
21:12 <Flex> what exactly does arma care about when we focus on "fps"
21:12 <Monkey_arma> and i meant ram on your gfx card you plank
21:12 <StickyNoob> and any money you save buying a p4 will be added on to your electricity bill
21:12 <Monkey_arma> sticky my bill i have just got through for electric
21:12 <Flex> oh 250mb
21:12 <Flex> or something
21:12 <Monkey_arma> its 60 quid for 3 months
21:12 <Monkey_arma> thats fine
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i want to get a p3 and no fps?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:13 <StickyNoob> heh
21:13 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend StickyNoob ?
21:13 <Monkey_arma> Flex anyway the other shop has stuff in but its random
21:13 <StickyNoob> go old amd, celeron, or core 2
21:13 <Monkey_arma> so i could wait for mobo+cpu+etc
21:14 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob why?
21:14 <Flex> yeah amd beats intel easly on the budget..
21:14 <Monkey_arma> ive got p3 celeron
21:14 <Monkey_arma> budget is irrelevant
21:14 <Monkey_arma> second hand is fuck all
21:14 <StickyNoob> old amd's beat intel on budget
21:14 <Flex> power for performance amd beats intel on the low end stuff
21:14 <Monkey_arma> put it this way, today that other shop had p4-3ghz+ fan 13 quid
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21:15 <Flex> 13quid?
21:15 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:15 <Flex> was it broken..
21:15 <Monkey_arma> no
21:15 <Monkey_arma> but no mobo
21:15 <Flex> ohh right
21:15 <Monkey_arma> so i could get it but i cant find a friggen mobo
21:16 <Flex> there's a cheap mobo on ebuyer for £30
21:16 <Monkey_arma> 30 fuck that
21:16 <Flex> man you make me feel like a big spender..
21:16 <Monkey_arma> i would spend 80 quid if i got good stuff
21:17 <Monkey_arma> but i may just spend less and upgrade in a year
21:17 <StickyNoob> old athlons will cost the same as your p4 give similar performance but better power useage
21:17 <Flex> focus on the graphics right.. then add on the mobo and cpu
21:17 <Flex> imo
21:17 <Flex> best way you'll get arma performance
21:18 <Monkey_arma> well gfx is easier
21:18 <Flex> if you go the mobo and cpu route you'll end up with a slight improvement which all that budget talk would be useless
21:18 <Monkey_arma> what would you recommend  as minimum?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> 128 meg?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 64?
21:18 <Monkey_arma> or 32?
21:18 <StickyNoob> heh
21:19 <Flex> arma isn't concerned about it's ram.. right..
21:19 <Monkey_arma> are you dumb?
21:19  * StickyNoob has a embedded pc with more cpu power and ram than monkeys new pc
21:19 <Monkey_arma> i mean your fucking gfx ram
21:19 <Flex> that's what i'm tlaking about
21:19 <Flex> jeez
21:19 <Monkey_arma> flex the more ram your gfx, the later the model so the faster
21:19 <Monkey_arma> ram on gfx is good base to go on for speed of gfx
21:19 <Flex> it's not all about the ram
21:19 <Monkey_arma> i know
21:20 <Monkey_arma> but faster cards have more ram
21:20 <Monkey_arma> is a good indicator of speed
21:20 <Flex> not really..
21:20 <Monkey_arma> ok here.... mobo+athlon1250+fan £7
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21:21 <Monkey_arma> can any agp mobo take any agp card?
21:22 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob ?
21:22 <Flex> yeah.......
21:22 <Monkey_arma> dont some things need the mobo to support it too for those effects to work?
21:22 <Monkey_arma> im sure i heard that
21:22 <Monkey_arma> like fastwrite
21:23 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: what is your gfx budget
21:23 <Flex> as long as the mobo can take x8 agp speed should be fine
21:24 <Monkey_arma> £30
21:24 <Flex> or whatever agp max speed is
21:24 <Monkey_arma> but i dont want other part of computer to be a bottleneck
21:24 <Monkey_arma> i would prefer to spend less than 30 tho
21:24 <Monkey_arma> it looks best to just upgrade for a year then do a proper upgrade
21:25 <Flex> with £30, the best option for more FPS is going old school with crappy graphics but performance
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21:25 <Flex> so your cycle looks like a cube from sega
21:26 <Monkey_arma> flex read better
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21:26 <Monkey_arma> £30 is for just the gfx card
21:26 <Flex> that's what i'm talking about..
21:26 <epsy> .g 30 £ in €
21:26 <Flex> read better!
21:26 <epsy> #g 30 £ in €
21:26 <armabot> epsy: 30 UK£ = 37.3950814 €
21:26 <epsy> man that's..low
21:26 <epsy> for a gfx
21:27 <Flex> not possible to get a real improvement with that
21:27 <epsy> indeed
21:27 <Flex> bang for bunk would be very low
21:27 <Monkey_arma> rubbish
21:27 <Monkey_arma> second hand i am talking
21:27 <Monkey_arma> they have 128 meg gfx cards barnd new for 30 quid
21:27 <Monkey_arma> but they are pci-e
21:27 <Flex> even better
21:28 <Monkey_arma> you guys are not wise
21:28 <Flex> you'll get better performance with pci
21:28 <Monkey_arma> but i cant get secondhand pci-e mobos
21:28 <Monkey_arma> the price is way more for that and cpu
21:28 <Monkey_arma> well maybe not cpu idk
21:28 <Flex> what you on about! pci mobo for £30 on pc world
21:29 <Flex> check the sales section
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21:29 <Monkey_arma>  ibet its shite
21:29 <Monkey_arma> can it take my pata HD?
21:29 <Monkey_arma> i bet not
21:29 <Flex> my dads one is standard
21:29 <epsy> 'standart' ha-ha
21:29 <Monkey_arma> ok i will go to pc world and have a look
21:29 <Flex> huh?
21:30 <Flex> online you'll get the same price too
21:30 <epsy> i bet he actually meant he would look on their website, but that he will look later
21:30 <Monkey_arma> !
21:30 <Monkey_arma> i meant to the store!
21:30 <Flex> i meant online on other online stores
21:31 <Monkey_arma> but fine i will look at their shit site now
21:31 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: see how much you can pick up an 8500gt for
21:31 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob brand new or second hand?
21:31 <Flex> second hand obviously
21:31 <Monkey_arma> second hand is pot luck as to what is in
21:31 <StickyNoob> naa i can find it new for 35
21:32 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412
21:32 <Flex> you can??
21:32 <Monkey_arma> how much ram on the 8500gt?
21:32 <StickyNoob> http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675
21:33 <epsy> Intel 865G Chipset;
21:33 <StickyNoob> check uot: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/3dmark06-v1-0-2-hdr-sm3-0-score,538.html
21:33 <epsy> ..
21:33 <Flex> oh oops that was an agp mobo
21:34 <epsy> plus it's a motherboard, not a gfx card :)
21:34 <Monkey_arma> intel ftw!
21:34 <epsy> ftl
21:34 <StickyNoob> w
21:34 <epsy> at least, for GFX
21:34 <Flex> we're looking for a mobo you arseface
21:34 <Monkey_arma> we want both
21:34 <Flex> cheapest pci-e on ebuyer is £50
21:34 <Flex> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/125082
21:34 <Flex> i think
21:34 <epsy> don't opt for an intel-based GFX system
21:35 <epsy> that's all i can say
21:35 <StickyNoob> intel gfx is good for linux users
21:36 <Monkey_arma> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
21:36 <Monkey_arma> epsy tell him he is wrrooooooonnnng
21:36 <StickyNoob> why is that?
21:36 <epsy> StickyNoob, wrong.
21:36 <Monkey_arma> intel is bad on all computers
21:36 <StickyNoob> why?
21:36 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:36 <epsy> esp. in linux
21:36 <Monkey_arma> omg
21:37 <Monkey_arma> im on intel now
21:37 <epsy> me too
21:37 <Monkey_arma> fuck that
21:37 <StickyNoob> me too
21:37 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati yes?
21:37 <epsy> and i pretty much regret it
21:37 <epsy> yes
21:37 <Flex> intel so far is pwning amd..
21:37 <Flex> wtf you on about
21:37 <Monkey_arma> flex omg lol
21:37 <Monkey_arma> gfx not cpu!!!!
21:37 <epsy> wait, we're talking about GFX!
21:38 <Flex> they're so pwning amd.. they're moving onto graphic cards and playing with nvidia
21:38 <Monkey_arma> man i hate pcs
21:38 <StickyNoob> well evidence such as OMG and intel suck aside what is wrong with them?
21:38 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ati sucks at linux
21:38 <Monkey_arma> right ok
21:38 <Flex> nothing, they're not with it
21:38 <Monkey_arma> intel is suck ass
21:39 <StickyNoob> good argument
21:39 <Monkey_arma> thx
21:39 <Flex> i'd go with intel on top end systems anyday
21:39 <epsy> Monkey_arma, nvidia works quite well, except if you'restrong-headed at only using free softw
21:39 <Flex> say what you want
21:39 <Flex> go check the benchmarks..
21:39 <Monkey_arma> nvidia > ati > intel
21:39 <Monkey_arma> end of
21:39 <epsy> StickyNoob, until the great fps improvements zman did, i had like 10-30fps at arma
21:40 <Monkey_arma> oh btw epsy trunk >
21:40 <epsy> do you think that's better than ati?
21:40 <epsy> (ati = amd btw)
21:40 <Monkey_arma> yes
21:40 <Flex> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-101-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1015&name=Gigabyte%20GA-P31-DS3L%20Intel%20P31%20(Socket%20775)%20PCI-Express%20DDR2%20Motherboard
21:40 <Monkey_arma> but when you talk about gfx you say ati
21:40 <Monkey_arma> overclockers good god
21:40 <epsy> jeez you don't want overclocking stuff
21:41 <Flex> what.. that#s £31..
21:41 <epsy> then games are unplayable because of sysclock glitches
21:41 <Flex> dude.. they don't overclock everything thet sell..
21:41 <Flex> does it say "OVER CLOCKED" on the item anywhere you fucking fagfuckface!
21:42 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: anyway lookat the 8500gt
21:42 <epsy> anyway, ati and intel driver support for linux sucks big time
21:42 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob  i doubt i can choose that much what i want
21:42 <StickyNoob> you can pick that up new
21:42 <Flex> linux sucks big time
21:42 <Flex> yes, i said it
21:42 <Flex> you guys also suck big time
21:42 <Monkey_arma> but will a lame agp mobo bottleneck that card?
21:43 <Flex> it's not agp
21:43 <Flex> it's pci
21:43 <StickyNoob> Flex: so hows those creative drivers in vista working out?
21:43 <Flex> fantastic
21:43 <Monkey_arma> ok so you are saying i can go to pc world and get £30 mobo and £30 gfx?
21:43 <Flex> they're only doing vista.. they've stopped supporting xp :)
21:44 <Flex> Monkey_arma, check the overclockers mobo link i gave you, that's £30
21:44 <Flex> then take http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=708675
21:44 <Flex> that's your mobo and gfx covered
21:44 <Flex> then go find a cpu
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21:44 <Flex> or if you want to go amd based mobo, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=805
21:44 <Flex> then find cpu and ram
21:44 <Flex> and you're done
21:44 <Monkey_arma> flex you are insane
21:45 <Flex> what! that sounds like the best idea
21:46 <Monkey_arma> btw why is DDR2 cheaper than DDR1?
21:46 <StickyNoob> since they dont make ddr1 anymore
21:47 <StickyNoob> its like buying a triumph
21:47 <Monkey_arma> k
21:47 <Flex> what's wrong with my idea Monkey_arma
21:47 <Monkey_arma> right well you guys have helped me make up my mind
21:47 <Monkey_arma> you are both mad so i do the opposite of what you say
21:47 <Monkey_arma> i will get second hand basic stuff
21:51 <Flex> StickyNoob, do you still have that link to the graphic card FPS list
21:51 <Flex> if you don't mind, can't find that again
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22:10 <Monkey_arma> flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaashyyyyy
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22:27 <Flex> http://www.goosh.org/
22:28 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with goosh
22:28 <armabot> epsy: [22:25:46] <epsy> http://goosh.org/
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22:28 <epsy> that was yesterday i guess
22:29 <Flex> lol!
22:29 <epsy> wrtlprnft, #last doesn't show date in timestamps
22:29 <Flex> i don't see it in my logs
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22:31 <epsy> Flex, http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2008-06-03.txt
22:32 <Flex> ok relax! you found it first!
22:32 <Flex> lol
22:32 <epsy> <Flex> i don't see it in my logs
22:32 <epsy> :)
22:32 <Flex> i only saw it now
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23:48 <Flex> escooo let's goooo
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