Log from 2008-04-28:
--- Day changed Mon Apr 28 2008
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00:29 <Monkey_arma> #lastseen monkey
00:30 <armabot> Monkey_arma: TwH |Monkey| has last been seen on Wild West =Tournament Server= ~Charlie~Lounge 1 minute ago.
00:30 <Monkey_arma> BULLSHIT
00:30 <Monkey_arma> :)
00:30 <Monkey_arma> they have gone to far...
00:32 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: yo yo yo
00:32 <StickyNoob> was there a tounament?
00:32 <Monkey_arma> clearly
00:33 <Monkey_arma> and i seem to be in it
00:33 <Monkey_arma> news to me
00:33 <Monkey_arma> hi StickyNoob
00:33 <StickyNoob> hay
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01:17 <Flex> what tourny?
01:18 <Monkey_arma> ctf
01:18 <Flex> what's that
01:19 <Monkey_arma> you know what that is
01:19 <Flex> know what is..
01:19 <ct|kyle> Monkey_arma: remember Flex is a noob
01:19 <Flex> no you are
01:19 <Monkey_arma> ah of course..im sorry Flex its capture the frog
01:20 <noob7> you need to keep the frog silent for the longest possible time
01:20 <Monkey_arma> and damn that frog can move
01:20 <Flex> you're an anal master
01:20 <Flex> and cock muncher
01:21 <Monkey_arma> thx for the compliments...
01:21 <Flex> £>
01:21 <noob7> I'll just have the starter
01:21 <Flex> the starter is getting teabagged and then sucking on my balls
01:28 <noob7> Flex was your father abusive? or was it your uncle? there is so much anger... wow
01:29 <StickyNoob> hes having to syke him self up for the army
01:29 <Flex> took you seven minutes to come back with that..
01:29 <epsy> if there wasn't any nicknames you'd all be flex
01:29 <Flex> haha StickyNoob :D
01:29 <Flex> yeah, ARRHHHHHHHHHHH
01:30 <noob7> flex, it took me seven minutes because there is more important stuff to do than reply to you
01:30 <noob7> :)
01:30 <Flex> then don't reply :)
01:30 <StickyNoob> just remember, the American air force practice by dropping bombs on big red crosses, now take a look at your flag
01:30 <noob7> feel honored, there are I'm I didnt reply to yet all day
01:30 <Flex> lol
01:31 <Flex> hey dude.. the americans help us out alot there..
01:31 <Flex> we should respect them for putting us in there and then providing heavy support
01:31 <StickyNoob> americans are also the number 1 cause of British war time casualties atm
01:32 <Flex> because they drop so many of those bombs that WE request
01:32 <Flex> without their firepower we'd have a much harder time
01:32 <noob7> you should thank them? for getting you into a war you didnt start?
01:32 <noob7> Oo
01:32 <Flex> i was being sarcastic about that
01:32 <StickyNoob> any way
01:32 <noob7> :/
01:32 <StickyNoob> Flex: do you know if you are in yet?
01:33 <Flex> it's acceptable that, accidents happen
01:33 <Monkey_arma> <== planned flex's epitaph
01:33 <Flex> StickyNoob, i'm going to my selection in afew weeks
01:33 <noob7> #t eng ger epitaph
01:33 <armabot> noob7: Epitaph
01:33 <noob7> :/
01:34 <noob7> #t greek ger epitaph
01:34 <armabot> noob7: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
01:35 <Monkey_arma> #flex's_epitaph
01:35 <armabot> There was a brave soldier whose name was flex, he played armagetron in a clan called x
01:35 <epsy> hrhr
01:36 <StickyNoob> he then went to Aldershot where he managed to commit suicide by shooting himself in the head...twice
01:36 <Monkey_arma> no no no it has to rhyme
01:36 <noob7> he shot his head into both side (sss)
01:37 <noob7> argh english meh
01:38 <Flex> why would i commite suicide?
01:39 <StickyNoob> ahh no it was Deepcut where someone committed suicide by shooting themself in the head...twice
01:39 <Flex> probably emo
01:39 <Flex> or something else
01:39 <noob7> shooting yourself in the head twice = homocide
01:40 <Flex> maybe he didn't do it properly the first time
01:40 <noob7> maybe thats just me
01:40 <Flex> it happens
01:40 <StickyNoob> oh no, one of them shot himself 5 times
01:40 <Flex> all in the head?
01:40 <StickyNoob> dobut it
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01:54 <Flex> i'm wearing latex
01:54 <Flex> what colour is yours?
01:59 <StickyNoob> the only latex i use is for word processing
01:59 <Flex> liar
01:59 <noob7> I like pink latex
02:00 <noob7> on my private part when doing the old in-and-out
02:00 <StickyNoob> epsy: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2309/2433728282_d3e7fa7348.jpg?v=0
02:01 <epsy> LOL!
02:19 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlVq1BRuzqY
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02:24 <Flex> http://teddziuba.com/2008/04/24/1205210029413.jpg
02:24 <Flex> lol
02:24 <llAMYll> lol hehe
02:27 <llAMYll> ahhh guru's asleep =(
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02:35 <Lucifer> no he's not, he's just pretending to be asleep
02:37 <epsy> like wrtlprnft aka armabot
02:38 <llAMYll> oh =s
02:38 <llAMYll> maybe we should go and wake guru3 up
02:39 <llAMYll> i donno
02:39 <Monkey_arma> he crashed...hes on a "guru meditation" (boom boom)
02:39 <llAMYll> lol
02:39 * Monkey_arma buries head in shame
02:40 <epsy> me ~epsy
02:41 <epsy> woops
02:41 <epsy> shit, i hit crtl+l
02:41 * epsy hates that
02:41 <llAMYll> ahhhhhhh
02:41 <llAMYll> i didn't realise ctrl L does that
02:41 <llAMYll> i just tried it lol
02:42 * llAMYll hates it too now
02:42 * epsy thought he was focusing firefox, hit crtl + l, types me ~epsy and enter
02:42 <Monkey_arma> epsy, such a spammer
02:42 * Monkey_arma tuts
02:42 <Monkey_arma> <=== hypocrite
02:43 <epsy> :[
02:43 * llAMYll is a spammer =D
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02:44 <llAMYll> proof http://www.fss.union.shef.ac.uk/forum/index.php
02:44 <llAMYll> guru3 is on that forum also :)
02:45 <llAMYll> like 2nd spammer
02:45 <llAMYll> lol
02:46 <Monkey_arma> only j/k epsy :(
02:47 <llAMYll> he's gone, you made him upset
02:47 <llAMYll> :(
02:47 <llAMYll> poor epsy
02:48 <llAMYll> Monkey_arma are you a developer?
02:48 <Monkey_arma> i am not
02:48 <Monkey_arma> i just come here and talk crap
02:48 <llAMYll> :D
02:50 <llAMYll> Do you use ubuntu by any chance Monkey_arma?
02:50 <Monkey_arma> no why?
02:50 <Monkey_arma> but i would recommend it to many
02:51 <llAMYll> just wondering what operating system you use :)
02:51 <llAMYll> (a)
02:51 <Monkey_arma> well i use various linux distros
02:51 <llAMYll> is gentoo one of them?
02:51 <Monkey_arma> im on debian at the mo but i dont like it
02:52 <Monkey_arma> it will be possibly
02:52 <llAMYll> ohh
02:52 <Monkey_arma> you? ubuntu?
02:52 <llAMYll> i'm just finding the new ubuntu to be very buggy
02:52 <llAMYll> yeah
02:52 <Monkey_arma> they all are
02:53 <llAMYll> which one do you recommend?
02:53 <Monkey_arma> all people i spoke to cant get it to work
02:53 <llAMYll> i haven't used any others apart from ubuntu
02:53 <llAMYll> oh
02:53 <Monkey_arma> well i dunno..whatever is recent ubuntu
02:53 <Monkey_arma> i would recommend ubuntu if someone asked
02:53 <llAMYll> the last ubuntu was even worse to be honest lol XD
02:54 <llAMYll> i was stuck with the old old ubuntu 7.04 for the last year
02:55 <Monkey_arma> well for people with money i would recommend a mac and mac osx
02:55 <Monkey_arma> :)
02:55 <llAMYll> lol i'm a uni student XD
02:55 <Monkey_arma> heh
02:55 <Monkey_arma> ok so no
02:55 <noob7> I really liked the "old" ubuntu
02:55 <llAMYll> 7.04?
02:55 <noob7> but some people are having real trouble with hardy
02:56 <Monkey_arma> yes
02:56 <Monkey_arma> noob13 is
02:56 <Monkey_arma> and others too
02:56 <Monkey_arma> has 13 fixed his issues yet?
02:56 <llAMYll> ahh, i have a desktop and a laptop and hardy isn't very happy with either of them :(
02:57 <noob7> no idea monkey
02:58 <Flex> look Monkey_arma
02:58 <Flex> http://shoeheadanim.ytmnd.com/
02:58 <llAMYll> on my desktop, ubuntu would randomly not be able to read the HDD :o and whatever isn't in the RAM, you cannot run, so you have to do a hard reboot, it doesn't freeze as so much as everything would just stop, you just can't open anything and/or run anything
02:59 <Monkey_arma> Flex, !
02:59 <Monkey_arma> hmm
03:00 <Monkey_arma> so it does not detect your HD
03:00 <Monkey_arma> that is the main issue?
03:00 <Monkey_arma> or it has installed on the HD but cant detect it on boot?
03:01 <llAMYll> well.. no it starts up, everything will run normally, but then out of the blue everything will stop
03:01 <llAMYll> like you can't open and/or run anything
03:01 <llAMYll> and it will go to the command line and say HDD cannot be read
03:01 <llAMYll> which is really really scary
03:02 <Monkey_arma> well i use debian and ubuntu is based on it so maybe i can help
03:02 <Monkey_arma> shall i pm you so save spamming here?
03:02 <llAMYll> okie dokie :)
03:03 <llAMYll> it will probably liven up this forum anyways hehe
03:03 <Monkey_arma> heh you are correct
03:03 <llAMYll> not forum, chat room XD
03:03 <llAMYll> so what'd you recommend i do? or should try?
03:03 <Monkey_arma> or more like room
03:04 <Monkey_arma> well you need to show me some stuff
03:04 <llAMYll> okie :)
03:04 <Flex> I put on my robe and wizard hat.
03:04 <Monkey_arma> nice
03:04 <llAMYll> :D
03:04 <Monkey_arma> do you use lilo or grub?
03:04 <llAMYll> what stuff do you need?
03:04 * Flex Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn.
03:04 <llAMYll> grub i think
03:04 <Monkey_arma> ok i use lilo :(
03:05 <Monkey_arma> i dont think its that
03:05 <Monkey_arma> show me your fstab..put it on pastebin
03:05 <llAMYll> i don't think its grub either :s cos it boots up fine
03:05 <Flex> God then said, "Let there be funny." and bash.org was created.
03:05 <llAMYll> lol
03:05 <Monkey_arma> ok so it boots fine good
03:06 <Monkey_arma> so the HD is the ONLY error?
03:06 <llAMYll> only major one yeah
03:06 <llAMYll> how do i send it to you??
03:06 <llAMYll> i'm a newbie on IRC too lol
03:06 <Monkey_arma> what client are you using?
03:06 <Monkey_arma> xchat?
03:06 <llAMYll> pidgin lol
03:06 <Monkey_arma> :(
03:07 <Monkey_arma> can you click on my name and choose send file or something like that?
03:07 <llAMYll> so i can't send it? :s
03:07 <llAMYll> erm..
03:07 <llAMYll> i donno
03:07 <llAMYll> lemme see
03:07 <Monkey_arma> *right click*
03:07 <Flex> found a pic of Monkey_arma
03:07 <Flex> http://artflutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/chat2lisaspacelc3.jpg
03:08 <llAMYll> okie i've sent it
03:08 <llAMYll> on a file transfuring thing
03:08 <Monkey_arma> oh man he said it was for his private collection and noone else would see it
03:08 <Flex> well he's a slut like you!
03:08 <llAMYll> lol!
03:09 <Monkey_arma> #slap Flex
03:09 <armabot> Monkey_arma slaps Flex for being a raving moron.
03:09 <Flex> http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/c12e371d79.jpg
03:09 <Monkey_arma> how vary dare you sit
03:09 <Monkey_arma> *r
03:09 <llAMYll> does the file transfur not come up? :(
03:09 <llAMYll> flex is weird XD
03:09 <Flex> no you are
03:10 <Monkey_arma> we are all weird btw
03:10 <Monkey_arma> no file
03:10 <llAMYll> :o
03:10 <llAMYll> :(
03:10 <Monkey_arma> ok just paste it
03:10 <llAMYll> okie
03:10 <Monkey_arma> not here tho
03:10 <Monkey_arma> !
03:10 <llAMYll> where then?
03:10 <Monkey_arma> ok i give u link
03:11 <Monkey_arma> wait one sec
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03:11 <llAMYll> =o
03:11 <Monkey_arma> http://rafb.net/paste/
03:12 <Monkey_arma> when you are done click on paste
03:12 <llAMYll> okie dokie
03:12 <llAMYll> done :P
03:13 <Monkey_arma> ok i am readin it
03:13 <llAMYll> :D
03:14 <Monkey_arma> ok so i guess you have a SATA drive
03:14 <Monkey_arma> ?
03:14 <Monkey_arma> or ?
03:14 <llAMYll> yeah i have 2 sata drives
03:15 <llAMYll> one is 500GB and the other is 250GB
03:15 <Monkey_arma> ok this is just a guess.
03:15 <Monkey_arma> looking at your fstab have you tried many many times to tell the ubuntu installer what HD to install on?
03:16 <llAMYll> lol! yes
03:16 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:16 <Flex> http://animepodcast.org/d/diggposters/poster_10.jpg
03:16 <Monkey_arma> ok well it has done it wrong
03:16 <llAMYll> :o how comes?
03:17 <llAMYll> Flex you are weird :D
03:17 <Flex> no you are
03:17 <Monkey_arma> well for a start, sata hard drives are not removable and it has put them in /media which is for removable devices
03:17 <Monkey_arma> fleeeeeeeeeeeeeex :)
03:17 <llAMYll> but its always put them in media
03:17 <llAMYll> like even the first time i installed ubuntu
03:18 <llAMYll> are they not meant to be there??
03:18 <llAMYll> =o
03:19 <Monkey_arma> no they should not..that might just be ubuntu being ignorant
03:19 <Monkey_arma> i dont know if it does that to everyone
03:19 <llAMYll> oh :(
03:19 <Monkey_arma> it might
03:19 <Monkey_arma> its not officially correct tho
03:20 <llAMYll> i donno, it does it to my lappy as wells
03:20 <Monkey_arma> ok now also have you tried many times to tell ubuntu that you have a windows partition/drive ?
03:21 <llAMYll> i didn't know you have to tell it that =s
03:21 <llAMYll> it just installs and grub is all made automatically
03:21 <llAMYll> but yes i do have a windows partition
03:21 <Monkey_arma> well it currently thinks you have 12 windows partitions
03:22 <llAMYll> really?? =o
03:22 <Monkey_arma> its the wrongest fstab ive ever seen..
03:22 <Monkey_arma> EVER
03:22 <llAMYll> lol!
03:22 <llAMYll> :'(
03:23 <llAMYll> i've also installed ubuntu many many many times
03:23 <llAMYll> it tends to make the same fstab
03:24 <llAMYll> i feel ashamed now :(
03:25 <llAMYll> do you think theres anyway i could make it slightly better?
03:26 <Flex> http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/abelkems/Demotivational%20Posters/tell20the20truth.jpg?t=1209345927
03:26 <llAMYll> i really do appreciate the help though XD
03:26 <Monkey_arma> you dont need to feel ashamed
03:26 <Monkey_arma> it should do it right
03:26 <Monkey_arma> and it has not
03:26 <Monkey_arma> i am just checking somit
03:26 <llAMYll> oh okie :)
03:31 <Monkey_arma> do your drives/partitions have any encryption or compression or does any thing like that ring a bell?
03:31 <Monkey_arma> like the windows one?
03:31 <llAMYll> nope
03:32 <llAMYll> not that i know of
03:32 <Monkey_arma> ok
03:32 <Flex> ok gn
03:32 <Flex> cya later monkeh
03:32 <llAMYll> byebye Flex
03:32 <Flex> byee
03:32 <Flex> £>
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03:32 <Monkey_arma> cu
03:32 <Monkey_arma> ok so it boots?
03:32 <Monkey_arma> what stage does it get to exactly?
03:33 <llAMYll> yep
03:33 <llAMYll> well.. i'm on it right now
03:33 <Monkey_arma> you are on pidgin in ubuntu?
03:33 <llAMYll> its just that every now and then it screws up, everything stops and if you are able to go to command line it will say HDD cannot be read
03:33 <llAMYll> yes :)
03:33 <Monkey_arma> hardy?
03:34 <llAMYll> yep
03:34 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: how much free space you have on the disk?
03:34 <llAMYll> it was fine with feisty
03:34 <llAMYll> which one?
03:34 <StickyNoob> the one mounted as /
03:34 <llAMYll> i got quite a bit of space on all of them
03:34 <Monkey_arma> type "mount" and pastebin it
03:34 <llAMYll> lemme see
03:34 <Monkey_arma> the results
03:35 <llAMYll> where do i paste it on?
03:35 <Monkey_arma> sticky is kubuntu/ubuntu wiz :)
03:35 <llAMYll> the same website?
03:35 <Monkey_arma> yes same
03:35 <StickyNoob> heh
03:35 <StickyNoob> had a less than happy foray into debian yesturday
03:36 <Monkey_arma> debian ftw :)
03:36 <Monkey_arma> xorg bad
03:36 <llAMYll> done :)
03:36 <Monkey_arma> sticky check her pastes too
03:36 <llAMYll> http://rafb.net/p/TZBgKK30.html (i think)
03:36 <ct|kyle> gentoo FTW
03:37 <StickyNoob> ct|kyle: i prefer to use my OS for other purposes than compiling itself
03:37 <StickyNoob> wtf
03:37 <StickyNoob> ok clean up that fstab
03:37 <ct|kyle> come on compiling FTW
03:37 <Monkey_arma> compiling lol yes true
03:38 <llAMYll> clean up my fstab?? i donno how :(
03:38 <StickyNoob> 10 fat partitions?
03:38 <llAMYll> yes
03:39 <llAMYll> and 2 ntfs
03:39 <llAMYll> and a cdrom
03:39 <llAMYll> lol :D
03:39 <Monkey_arma> hehe
03:39 <Monkey_arma> its nuts
03:39 <StickyNoob> yeah
03:39 <Monkey_arma> the mount is too
03:39 <llAMYll> is it really that bad? =O
03:39 <Monkey_arma> how are they all mounted?
03:39 <Monkey_arma> yes its nuts
03:39 <StickyNoob> soon gonna hit the integer limit
03:39 <llAMYll> what do you mean how are they mounted? :S
03:40 <StickyNoob> they are all mounted in the /media dir
03:40 <llAMYll> on /media/sdaX
03:40 <llAMYll> yep
03:40 <Monkey_arma> lmao /var/lock!!!
03:40 <Monkey_arma> something is wroooooong
03:40 <Monkey_arma> in a huge fashion
03:40 <llAMYll> i feel really really stupid at the moment lol!
03:41 <llAMYll> :(
03:41 <StickyNoob> naa is fine
03:41 <StickyNoob> everyone has to elarn somewhere
03:41 <StickyNoob> *learn
03:41 <Monkey_arma> no you are not stupid
03:41 <Monkey_arma> ubuntu does this stuff
03:41 <Monkey_arma> not you
03:41 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: well your fstab is set that if it finds any errors it will remount the partiton read only, so its possible that is what is happening
03:42 <llAMYll> oooooo
03:42 <llAMYll> that would explain that can't open anything thing
03:42 <Monkey_arma> sticky wtf is tmpfs doing on var lock and var run?
03:42 <llAMYll> huh?
03:43 <Monkey_arma> is that ok ?
03:43 <Lucifer> yes, it is
03:43 <Monkey_arma> ok
03:43 <Lucifer> those directories are for temporary files like daemon PIDs and file locks
03:44 <llAMYll> oh and g-parted doesn't really like my desktop :) just thought i'd put that in lol
03:44 <Lucifer> arma-ded's init script puts its PID in a file in /var/run so it can later kill the server
03:44 <Monkey_arma> right ok so ubuntu chooses to do that...debian dont
03:44 <StickyNoob> my ubuntu fstab dosent have it
03:45 <Monkey_arma> hmmm
03:45 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: i have found gparted a bit buggy, crashed on me a few times
03:45 <llAMYll> okie dokie :)
03:45 <Monkey_arma> yes parted once messed up my partition table
03:45 * Lucifer smacks Monkey_arma (hi there!) for the guru meditation comment
03:45 <Monkey_arma> i had 3 days of hell
03:45 <llAMYll> it works on my lappy though
03:45 <Monkey_arma> :) lucifer
03:46 <Lucifer> parted caused me to lose about $1500 when it wiped out my partition table and I spent time fixing it instead of working
03:46 <Lucifer> it's why I went to gentoo instead of kubuntu, and then ultimately went back to kubuntu because I didn't have the time to maintain a gentoo installation
03:46 <Monkey_arma> just in case anyone is listening.."gpart" is nice
03:46 <StickyNoob> heheh
03:46 <Lucifer> it was kparted in particular
03:46 <StickyNoob> good troll
03:46 <StickyNoob> yeah gparted is buggy kparted is just shit
03:47 <Monkey_arma> all parted are based on the same thing by the way amy
03:47 <llAMYll> oh okay
03:47 <Monkey_arma> at least 2 are anyway
03:47 <Monkey_arma> maybe kde have their own plans
03:47 <StickyNoob> right well i suppose first i would do is run a good fsck to make sure everything is ok
03:48 <Monkey_arma> i dont even know what lrm is
03:48 <llAMYll> should i dismount most of the partitions and run fsck then?
03:48 <Monkey_arma> sticky there is no way she has 12 win partitions
03:48 <StickyNoob> why not?
03:48 <Monkey_arma> ok amy do you have 12 windows partitions?
03:48 <llAMYll> there are 12 partitions
03:48 <llAMYll> only one has windows on it
03:49 <Monkey_arma> riiight
03:49 <Monkey_arma> 12 is a lot...
03:49 <Monkey_arma> up to you though
03:49 <Monkey_arma> idk what u do with it
03:49 <StickyNoob> its over 2 disks
03:49 <StickyNoob> im pushing about 8 atm
03:49 <llAMYll> i have 2 disks :)
03:49 <Monkey_arma> ok
03:49 <Lucifer> why do you have 12 partitions?!?
03:49 <Monkey_arma> well i triple boot and i have only 3 partitions...
03:49 <llAMYll> and about 750GB in total
03:50 <Lucifer> I single boot and I have 22 partitions
03:50 <noob7> you crazy people
03:50 <llAMYll> because i put different things in different partition
03:50 <noob7> and my friends look at me weird when they see I have 3 pcs running
03:50 <Monkey_arma> ok...i just use directories
03:50 <Lucifer> hmm, I usually only worry about /home and /, and sometimes I worry about /tmp
03:50 <StickyNoob> heh
03:50 <Monkey_arma> heh indeed
03:51 <StickyNoob> i just dd my data straight to the disk, screw file systems
03:51 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, are you joking or/
03:51 <Monkey_arma> ?
03:51 <Lucifer> I'm serious about how I partition, joking about having 22 partitions
03:51 <Monkey_arma> ok thank goodness for you not having 22
03:51 <Monkey_arma> on this channel anything is possible
03:51 <llAMYll> lol!
03:51 <llAMYll> :D
03:52 <Monkey_arma> well imho 12 is nuts
03:52 <Monkey_arma> but so am i so..
03:52 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: so how oftern does it not work?
03:52 <Lucifer> I could see 12, if you went one partition for human users, and then one partition for the rest
03:52 <llAMYll> i donno, it will just randomly do it
03:52 <Lucifer> then /usr, /var, /tmp, /etc, /, /boot
03:52 <llAMYll> random amount of time
03:53 <Lucifer> what's the problem, anyway?
03:53 <Monkey_arma> oh sorry i have 4 partitions..one is swap
03:53 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: and does rebooting instantly solve it
03:53 * Lucifer came late to the discussion
03:53 <Lucifer> oh yeah, then swap, of course. So I have 3 partitions right now
03:53 <llAMYll> yes StickyNoob
03:53 <llAMYll> but it has to be a hard reboot
03:54 <StickyNoob> do you get to a command line?
03:54 <llAMYll> cos not even typing in commands work in terminal
03:54 <llAMYll> nope, unless you have it open already
03:54 <StickyNoob> already open? so this does not happen on boot
03:54 <Monkey_arma> ok well it could be that your HD has dodgy connections
03:54 <Monkey_arma> its possible
03:54 <llAMYll> nope, never on boot
03:54 <llAMYll> dodgy connections? :s
03:54 <Monkey_arma> i had that once
03:55 <StickyNoob> ok so your computer randomly freezes
03:55 <StickyNoob> and says it cant read the hard disk
03:55 <Monkey_arma> yes where tiny movements affect whether the hd can be read or not
03:55 <llAMYll> kinda, you can spin the compiz cube and write stuff though because its already open
03:55 <llAMYll> oh i seee
03:56 <StickyNoob> hds should NOT be moved when on anyway
03:56 <Lucifer> hmmm, so the problem is that it randomly fails to read the hard drive?
03:56 <llAMYll> i see it like this, if the application is open, it is interactive and still works
03:56 <Lucifer> does it randomly have other problems, too?
03:56 <llAMYll> when the hdd stops working
03:56 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: can you pastebin the out put of the program "dmesg"
03:56 <llAMYll> okie
03:56 * Lucifer can see where bad memory would cause random failures
03:57 <Monkey_arma> sticky i mean that even vibrations cause the hd to fail
03:57 <Monkey_arma> i dont touch it when on lol
03:58 <llAMYll> it is very long and it seems to be repeating itself the dmesg thing
03:58 <StickyNoob> thats fine
03:58 <Lucifer> the platters in the hard drive are only held on by one bearing
03:58 <Lucifer> very sensitive things
03:58 <Monkey_arma> also electrical connections suck
03:58 <Monkey_arma> they can be sensitive sometimes
03:58 <llAMYll> http://rafb.net/p/1ELABB42.html
03:58 <Lucifer> a hard drive on its last leg could also randomly fail
03:58 <llAMYll> i think
03:58 <StickyNoob> well the distance beteen head and platter is a small fraction of the width of a human hair
03:59 <llAMYll> so do you think i should check my HDD connections?
03:59 <Monkey_arma> not yet
03:59 <Monkey_arma> we will see
03:59 <Monkey_arma> :)
03:59 <StickyNoob> yeah smartmon tools is next
03:59 <llAMYll> okie dokie XD
03:59 <Lucifer> wow, look at all those ata errors
03:59 <Monkey_arma> and dont do it when its on!
03:59 <StickyNoob> OUCH
03:59 <llAMYll> hehe :P
03:59 <llAMYll> are all those errors?!
04:00 <Lucifer> I don't actually know, I don't have any sata drives yet
04:00 <Monkey_arma> nor me :)
04:00 <Monkey_arma> pata all the way
04:01 <Monkey_arma> that is one hella dmesg
04:01 <llAMYll> i don't know if theres more because it seems to have more above the terminal limit
04:01 <llAMYll> do you think the earlier bits are needed as wells?
04:01 <StickyNoob> ok smartmon tools time
04:02 <llAMYll> smartmon??
04:02 <Monkey_arma> /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc
04:02 <llAMYll> whats that?
04:02 <Lucifer> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=275504
04:02 <Monkey_arma> what is binfmt?
04:02 <Lucifer> evidently your problem is not distro-specific and is happening to other people
04:02 <Monkey_arma> could that be doing something? its got somit to do with filesystems
04:03 <llAMYll> typing binfmt_misc doesn't do anything :(
04:03 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: run "sudo aptitude install smartmontools"
04:03 <Monkey_arma> i dont mean type it
04:03 <llAMYll> okay
04:03 <Monkey_arma> i was saying to the guys
04:03 <Monkey_arma> i dont have that
04:03 <Monkey_arma> and it has something to do with filesystems
04:04 <llAMYll> binfmt_misc still doesn't do anything :(
04:04 <llAMYll> after installing smartmontools
04:05 <Monkey_arma> it is not a command
04:05 <llAMYll> oh
04:05 <Monkey_arma> its an option in fstab
04:05 <Monkey_arma> kinda
04:05 <Monkey_arma> /dev/sda9 on /media/sda9 type fuseblk
04:05 <Monkey_arma> also what is fuselk, Lucifer and StickyNoob ?
04:05 <llAMYll> you said type it so i did :s
04:05 <Monkey_arma> no i didnt
04:05 <Monkey_arma> :)
04:05 <llAMYll> oh okay lol
04:05 <Monkey_arma> hehe
04:05 <Monkey_arma> type is a word in fstab :)
04:05 <Monkey_arma> lol i see the confustion
04:05 <llAMYll> ohhhh
04:06 <Monkey_arma> sry i should have said
04:06 <Lucifer> fuselk is the linux kernel fuse module
04:06 <Lucifer> I think
04:06 <Lucifer> pretty sure
04:06 <Lucifer> fuse is a daemon that lets you write user-space hardware drivers, filesystems mostly
04:06 <Monkey_arma> and its valid as an fs type?
04:06 <Lucifer> sshfs uses fuse
04:06 <Lucifer> yes
04:06 <Monkey_arma> er ok
04:07 <Lucifer> sshfs is cool because you can mount any directory on a remote host via ssh
04:07 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: ok now pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda" and "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb"
04:07 <llAMYll> its very useful :)
04:07 <llAMYll> okay
04:07 <Monkey_arma> ok so the next question is why does amy have 2 partitions with that type?
04:08 <StickyNoob> i have loads of sshfs mounts
04:08 <StickyNoob> they are not partions
04:09 <Monkey_arma> oh ye of course :)
04:09 <llAMYll> http://rafb.net/p/1CJSV175.html this is the sda one
04:10 <llAMYll> http://rafb.net/p/pAWdUd24.html and this is the sdb one
04:10 <Monkey_arma> so that is on the two ntfs partitions...that she does not have
04:10 <StickyNoob> wow your Seek_Error_Rate is off the chart
04:11 <Monkey_arma> could it be because kernel thinks it is dealing with vfat instead of ext3?
04:12 <llAMYll> its really bad isn't it lol :(
04:12 <Monkey_arma> hang on, amy what are most of those partitions used for?
04:12 <StickyNoob> both your Raw_Read_Error_Rate and Seek_Error_Rate are realy high, mine ar both 0 after a few years of service
04:12 <Monkey_arma> i dont think the hds are bust
04:13 <Monkey_arma> i think its driver issuee
04:13 <llAMYll> erm.. some are for music, some are for videos, movies, work,
04:13 <StickyNoob> Monkey_arma: run "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda" and see what you get
04:14 <Lucifer> anybody got an lcd monitor they'd like to give me?
04:14 <Monkey_arma> i have CRT and im proud
04:15 <Monkey_arma> amy, ok
04:15 <Monkey_arma> you know that they are all windows partitions then
04:15 <Monkey_arma> they use windows type filesystem
04:15 <llAMYll> you mean fat32?
04:15 <Monkey_arma> yes correct
04:15 <Monkey_arma> except for 2 that are ntfs
04:15 <llAMYll> yes :)
04:15 <Monkey_arma> which is newer/fancier windows
04:15 <llAMYll> because fat32 can't hold more than 4GB in one file
04:16 <llAMYll> so i have 2 ntfs as well
04:16 <Monkey_arma> er...ok
04:16 <Monkey_arma> :\
04:16 * StickyNoob votes busted hd's
04:16 <Monkey_arma> how old are your HDs amy?
04:16 <Monkey_arma> and how much do you use them
04:16 <llAMYll> 2 months
04:16 <StickyNoob> yup
04:16 <StickyNoob> busted
04:16 <llAMYll> the last one broke on me because of gutsy :(
04:17 <Monkey_arma> broke?
04:17 <llAMYll> it works on feisty though :S
04:17 <StickyNoob> an os cant destry a hd
04:17 <Monkey_arma> it can destroy the data on it
04:17 <llAMYll> at least i think so, on gutsy, when you open the partition with nautilus, it makes this really weird noise
04:17 <llAMYll> for about 30secs
04:17 <StickyNoob> ok i tell a lie, ubuntu did have a habit of destroying laptop hd's
04:18 <llAMYll> and nautilus becomes unresponsive
04:18 <Monkey_arma> i think thinkpads were in trouble
04:18 <Monkey_arma> or was it...er
04:18 <Monkey_arma> i still reckon its not your HDs fault..whatever
04:18 <Lucifer> actually, an os can destroy a hd these days
04:18 <Monkey_arma> no way you have 2 dodgy HDs
04:18 <Monkey_arma> or bought 2 dodgy
04:18 <Lucifer> and almost any other piece of hardware in the case. Weird
04:19 * Lucifer misses the days when you could say "software can't damage hardware"
04:19 <Monkey_arma> well it can but it is very uncommon...
04:19 <Monkey_arma> most peoples hds are ok
04:19 <Lucifer> heh
04:19 <Lucifer> mandriva released a version that trashed a certain model of cdrom drive
04:20 <luke-jr> that was a long time ago
04:20 <Lucifer> it might have just overwritten the firmware, and then the manufacturer put out a new firmware so people could fix it
04:20 <luke-jr> Mandrake, IIRC
04:20 <Monkey_arma> yes so its not really the hardware as such
04:20 <Lucifer> no, that wasn't
04:20 <Monkey_arma> but still unusable
04:20 <Lucifer> realistically, it's software that ultimately destroys hard drives anyway, because of all the read and writes they do that wear out the drive
04:20 <Lucifer> if they just quit doing that, hard drives would never fail
04:21 <Lucifer> monitors and x11 have a long history of not agreeing with each other
04:21 <Monkey_arma> HDs nowadays have builtin detection of bad blocks
04:21 <Monkey_arma> again monitors all have builtin protection
04:21 <Monkey_arma> not years ago tho
04:21 <Monkey_arma> you cant use xvidtune to fuck em up anymore
04:21 <Monkey_arma> :)
04:21 <Lucifer> years ago you couldn't setup your video card to do weird things
04:22 <Monkey_arma> hmm im not sure bout that..maybe different things
04:22 <Monkey_arma> xvidtune used to feck em up
04:22 <Lucifer> heh, I'm talking about before linux
04:22 <Lucifer> there *were* computers before linux, you know...
04:23 <Monkey_arma> ah ok now im with you
04:23 <Monkey_arma> i was on about linux times
04:23 <Monkey_arma> and pcs
04:23 <Monkey_arma> yes before linux and pcs things were not so bad in some areas
04:23 <Lucifer> speaking of olden times.....
04:24 <Lucifer> I went to NASA this weekend (well, Thurs-Sat) for the college aerospace scholars thing they do
04:24 <Lucifer> bunch of community college students go out there once a year and run a play project of some sort to try to win a play nasa contract
04:24 <Lucifer> we built a robot :)
04:24 <Monkey_arma> btw amy we have not forgotten bout you ;)
04:24 <Lucifer> so, we were hanging out the second night, and someone mentioned he liked frisbee golf
04:24 <Monkey_arma> shoudve taken sticky :)
04:25 <Lucifer> I said "You just like it because it reminds you of the disc sequence in Tron" and started pantomiming the sequence
04:25 <Lucifer> these 3 kids look at me like I'm some sort of nut
04:25 <llAMYll> :)
04:25 <llAMYll> no worries
04:25 <Lucifer> I said "Haven't you seen Tron?"
04:25 * Monkey_arma has not seen tron!
04:25 <Lucifer> "Uhhh, no...."
04:25 * Monkey_arma hides
04:25 <Lucifer> turns out there were people there that had seen tron, they were all sleeping
04:26 <llAMYll> i'm just seeing if my lappy has the same results
04:26 <Lucifer> check your toaster while you're at it
04:26 <Lucifer> toasters tend to fry hard drives
04:26 <Monkey_arma> well i dont think they are trashed..but they might be. if they are then drivers have done it
04:26 <llAMYll> http://rafb.net/p/GVSoiy90.html my lappy :D
04:26 <Lucifer> they could just be old, how old are the hard drives, anyway?
04:27 <Monkey_arma> she said 2 months
04:27 <llAMYll> 2 months
04:27 <Lucifer> you know how when things get old.....
04:27 <Lucifer> lemme guess, you bought them from Frye's?
04:27 <Monkey_arma> amy do you run them as servers (24/7) or not
04:27 <llAMYll> frye's?
04:27 * Lucifer debates making a margarita and working on his robot
04:27 <llAMYll> nope
04:27 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: ok apparently some hds just put large values in those error fields for fun so not a total indicator of an issue
04:27 <llAMYll> unlike guru3 hehehe
04:27 <llAMYll> ooo
04:27 <Lucifer> why all the guru3 comments? Did you like hook up with him and do the hanky-panky?
04:27 <StickyNoob> however
04:28 <llAMYll> we go to the same university :)
04:28 * Lucifer wonders what's happened in the 3 days he was gone
04:28 <Monkey_arma> :0
04:28 <Lucifer> oh yeah?
04:28 <Lucifer> guru3: is she hot?
04:28 <llAMYll> he's asleep :P
04:28 <Monkey_arma> taht is why i got some random link to sheffield uni
04:28 <Lucifer> wake him up!
04:28 <StickyNoob> your sdb logged some errors (http://rafb.net/p/pAWdUd24.html)
04:28 <llAMYll> its 3:28am ! lol
04:28 <Monkey_arma> again...i think drivers/kernel/somit
04:28 <llAMYll> i'm really tired
04:29 <Lucifer> that'd be pretty close to my bedtime
04:29 <Monkey_arma> i think it can be fixed ..just needs some thinking...
04:29 <llAMYll> the only reason i'm still awake is because i want to see what is wrong with my compy :(
04:29 <Lucifer> but I"m 5 timezones behind you
04:29 <Monkey_arma> amy you want to come on here another day?
04:29 <Monkey_arma> we live here so ..
04:29 <llAMYll> lol hehehe
04:29 <llAMYll> okie dokie
04:29 <Lucifer> well, *he* lives here
04:29 <Lucifer> I only work here
04:29 <Monkey_arma> wrong fail
04:30 <llAMYll> i'll tell guru3 that he has a very nice IRC chatroom here :D
04:30 <llAMYll> when i see him
04:30 <Lucifer> but for a robot operating on Mars and a client operating on Earth, the acknowledgement could first appear 28 minutes after the login, and if the packet loss monster ate the acknowledgement, the client will have to wait another 28 minutes for it.
04:30 * Lucifer enjoys writing apidocs every now and then
04:30 <Monkey_arma> amy..we are the sane people...and im not joking
04:30 <StickyNoob> Lucifer: how did you get on with headless player/stage?
04:31 <Monkey_arma> "relatively speaking"
04:31 <Lucifer> AMY; also, tell him to tell you that I asked you to pick a name that starts with a regular alphanumeric key to make tab completion easier
04:31 <Lucifer> StickyNoob: ran out of time, and left the next morning for my nasa trip
04:31 <llAMYll> okay, i have no idea what that meant but i'll tell him :)
04:31 <StickyNoob> ohh nasa trip
04:31 <llAMYll> night nights
04:31 <StickyNoob> night
04:31 <Lucifer> someone from my team is going to send me pictures, then I'll post them for you guys ;)
04:31 <StickyNoob> cool
04:31 <Lucifer> 'night AMY
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04:31 <StickyNoob> which tgeam are you in?
04:32 <StickyNoob> *team
04:32 <Lucifer> I was on the White team
04:32 <Lucifer> don't tell me you were there?
04:32 <StickyNoob> mwuuuahahahahah
04:32 <StickyNoob> no i wasnt
04:32 <Monkey_arma> he just wishes he was
04:32 <Monkey_arma> ok me too bed time
04:32 <StickyNoob> i do
04:32 <Monkey_arma> cu
04:32 <Monkey_arma> :)
04:33 <Monkey_arma> dont worry sticky you can play in the dictatorship fort instead
04:33 <Monkey_arma> gn
04:33 <StickyNoob> night
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04:33 <Lucifer> 'night Monkey_boy
04:42 <Lucifer> wait a minute, so lego mindstorm is just stuff to make legos do things?
04:50 <luke-jr> IIRC, Mindstorm is basically computer connectivity
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06:53 <Lucifer> #ping
06:53 <armabot> pong
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12:55 <K-Yo> #svn
12:55 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
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14:04 <noob7> argh!
14:06 <epsy> noob7, reconnect :/
14:06 <noob7> I did
14:06 <noob7> no time to play now anyways
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15:09 <armabot> lpbugs:  buggy username after /deop'ing
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15:22 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8443 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: forcing name update when DeAuthenticating, fixing the /deop bug
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16:20 * z-man-work hopes epsy isn't breaking stuff
16:20 <epsy> you shouldn't read the next commit
16:21 <epsy> :-P
16:24 <MrBougo> :o epsy has a bzr access :o
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16:24 <z-man-work> epsy: is in unbreaking stuff the previous one broke? ;)
16:25 <z-man-work> /in/it/
16:25 <epsy> nope
16:25 <z-man-work> so it's breaking stuff?
16:25 <epsy> nope
16:25 <z-man-work> so?
16:25 <epsy> actually, it shouldn't change anything to the binaries
16:26 <epsy> see what i mean?
16:26 * z-man-work certainlty WILL read the next commit.
16:26 <epsy> haha
16:30 <z-man-work> Umm, what kind of random reformating was that?
16:30 <z-man-work> You know these things are hell for whoever needs to merge to the trunk?
16:31 <epsy> half were tabs :(
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17:36 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8445 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eTeam.cpp src/engine/eTeam.h src/tron/gTeam.cpp): epsy46: Build the colored team name each time instead
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17:49 <MrBougo> lol I like google
17:49 <MrBougo> #g 1 gibibyte in gigabyte
17:49 <armabot> MrBougo: 1 gibibyte = 1 gigabyte
17:49 <MrBougo> yaaaaa rite
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8446 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: Do not read the diff :)
17:59 <luke-jr> MrBougo: there's no such thing as a gibibyte ☺
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17:59 <luke-jr> it's just a retard's word for gigabyte
18:00 <epsy> #g 1 retard is retard
18:00 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:00 <epsy> #g 1 retard in retard
18:00 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:02 <K-Yo> epsy, ping
18:02 <epsy> pong
18:02 <K-Yo> je souhaiterai mettre un editeur html (juste de texte) en php tres probablement sur l'interface d'administration d'un site
18:03 <K-Yo> tu vois ce que je veux dire?
18:03 <epsy> euh oui?
18:03 <K-Yo> je veux pouvoir modifier les pages de mon site depuis l'adinistration quoi
18:03 <epsy> ah
18:03 <K-Yo> tu sais comment je pourrais faire ca?
18:03 <epsy> att
18:03 <K-Yo> et si il existe des trucs tout faits comme les forums etc
18:03 <epsy> http://www.mozbot.fr/search?q=php+file+manager&sourceid=mozilla-search
18:13 <K-Yo> j'ai trouvé mon bonheur
18:13 <K-Yo> http://ajaxbrowser.free.fr
18:13 <K-Yo> en plus fait par un français <3
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18:23 <epsy> haha K-Yo
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18:52 <K-Yo> epsy, en fait non, la partie qui m'interesse est payante
18:52 <K-Yo> mais j'ai trouvé un autre
18:52 <epsy> lol
18:52 <K-Yo> (anglo-portuguais... tant pis ;))
18:52 <epsy> :D
18:53 <K-Yo> par contre il y a un truc "Shell"
18:53 <K-Yo> c'est quoi exactement? je peux acceder a une ligne de commande sur le serveur free?
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18:53 <epsy> j'imagine que c'est une émulation
18:54 <K-Yo> ok
18:54 <epsy> mé bon on sait jamais
18:54 <epsy> ^^
18:55 <llAMYll> French! =o
18:55 <llAMYll> i donno french =(
18:59 <K-Yo> llAMYll, poor you, you don't know what you miss
18:59 <Lucifer> well, it's all in the tongue, really
19:00 <pippijn> 18:12 < K-Yo> http://ajaxbrowser.free.fr
19:00 <pippijn> what is this
19:00 <K-Yo> pippijn, a PHP file manager, half free
19:00 <pippijn> half?
19:01 <K-Yo> yeah
19:01 <pippijn> how?
19:01 <K-Yo> you can have a part of the code for free
19:01 <K-Yo> the other part, you can get it by making a donation, from 5 to 1500€
19:01 <pippijn> O.o
19:02 <K-Yo> first time I see that
19:02 <K-Yo> anyway, the part I needed (editing html and php online) was not in the free version
19:02 <K-Yo> so I took another one
19:03 <K-Yo> http://phpfm.sourceforge.net/
19:03 <z-man-work> #lastseen ender
19:03 <armabot> z-man-work: -=}ID< Ender has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 6 minutes ago.
19:04 <epsy> K-Yo, http://www.openssh.org/
19:04 <epsy> « Donate to stop the blinking »
19:05 * pavelo was under the impression z-man-work said he won't run after players
19:05 <z-man-work> I'm not running after him, I'm trying to hurl rocks into his general direction :)
19:05 <epsy> what about z-man and zmanuel?
19:05 <K-Yo> epsy, lol
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19:17 <K-Yo> haha I have 7 fps on café, I don't see anything and I'm second :P
19:17 <K-Yo> (10 players)
19:17 <epsy> 7fps with 10 players? wtf
19:18 <K-Yo> je suis à la campagne
19:18 <epsy> c'est une raison? xD
19:18 <K-Yo> et je crois que mon acceleration 3D ne marche tjs pas nicjel
19:18 <K-Yo> nickel
19:18 <K-Yo> pke ca rame aussi ds les menus :/
19:19 <epsy> lol
19:19 <K-Yo> ouais, on est pas encore en zone dégroupée :P
19:19 <epsy> ben vérifie avec glxinfo
19:19 <K-Yo> ca me soule trop je sais pas d'ou ca vient
19:19 <epsy> haha
19:20 <K-Yo> qah direct rendering: no
19:20 <epsy> :/
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21:07 <llAMYll> :)
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21:57 <QUARG> hello
21:59 <QUARG> i was wondering if anyone could tell me if authentication is integrated into the windows dedicated release.
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21:59 <QUARG> im looking to upgrade the ID rubber server with auth.
22:00 <QUARG> but i dont want to have to ask the host to change versions twice. :)
22:00 <pavelo> QUARG: which version
22:01 <QUARG> windows dedicated 2.8
22:01 <QUARG> the one that is found on the download page
22:01 <pavelo> there is no 2.8 version
22:01 <pavelo> be more specific
22:01 <QUARG> ok one sec
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22:02 <QUARG> the issue is that i use mac and the server is windows, so im not too sure were the windows versions are in terms of revisions
22:02 <pavelo> the 0.2.8.2.1 thing ?
22:03 <pavelo> version numbers should be the same
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22:03 <pavelo> 0.2.8.2.1 doesn't have armathentication, and that's the latest build i found
22:03 <QUARG> 188.8.131.52.gcc.win.exec
22:04 <pavelo> not that I'm an expert on subject
22:04 <QUARG> thats the file that is located on the download page
22:04 <QUARG> but i cant check if it has the auth cause im on mac
22:05 <pavelo> you can always join the club of those that _tried_ to compile it from source
22:05 <QUARG> i also heard wispers of a new release some time soon, i was hoping to find out the truth :)
22:05 <QUARG> i have compiled
22:05 <QUARG> but for mac
22:05 <pavelo> well, that's a bit different
22:05 <QUARG> yes
22:05 <QUARG> and i cant ask the host to do it
22:06 * pavelo wonders if mac can cross-compile for windoze
22:06 <QUARG> so i need an .exe with auth
22:06 <QUARG> i think i saw something on the subject but didnt understand it
22:06 <QUARG> or it was just for linux
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22:30 <llAMYll> :)
22:31 <llAMYll> lolspam at its best XD
22:34 <guru3> go lol yourself
22:36 <llAMYll> :D
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22:36 <llAMYll> well.. its better than no-one saying anything eh
22:36 <llAMYll> guru3
22:37 <guru3> stalker :P
22:39 <llAMYll> i'm the stalker? :o
22:39 <llAMYll> mean-ness
22:39 <llAMYll> :(
22:39 <guru3> well
22:39 <guru3> it's not like i followed you here ;(
22:39 <guru3> *;)
22:41 <llAMYll> well... it was on your electric potential website
22:41 <guru3> yeah well
22:41 <guru3> no one ever goes there
22:41 <llAMYll> lol!
22:41 <llAMYll> and you got guru3.net as well
22:41 <guru3> yeah
22:41 <guru3> no one goes tehre either
22:41 <llAMYll> which only says something something to clever solutions
22:41 <llAMYll> :S
22:42 <guru3> i own armagetronad.net too if you care
22:44 <llAMYll> :D
22:44 <llAMYll> are you still making me the ssh thingus?
22:47 <guru3> oh did you still want that?
22:47 * guru3 will consider it
22:47 <llAMYll> yes i do :D
22:47 * llAMYll will consider bringing my game
22:47 <llAMYll> (a)
22:48 <guru3> indeed
22:50 <llAMYll> i can't get bitlbee to work :(
22:50 <llAMYll> it comes up with 'Warning: Unable to read configuration file `/etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf'.'
22:51 <llAMYll> but when i give it root permissions, it just says its got root permissions and still wouldn't work :(
22:51 <guru3> hmmm
22:52 <guru3> are you starting bitilbee as root?
22:52 <guru3> shouldn't you be starting it through the service manager
22:52 <llAMYll> i've tried both
22:52 <guru3> as its own user
22:52 <llAMYll> so i don't start it from terminal?
22:52 <guru3> i don't think so
22:52 <guru3> maybe it's something for xinetd
22:53 <llAMYll> theres nothing related to bitlbee in the services
22:53 <llAMYll> :(
22:54 <guru3> there should be an xinetd configuration
22:54 <guru3> which i bet has it
22:54 <guru3> which i don't really know how to use anymore
22:54 <guru3> check ubuntu wiki
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22:55 <llAMYll> okay
22:59 <llAMYll> no-ones saying anything :(
23:00 <guru3> not a lot of the time
23:00 <guru3> it's not a terribly active channel
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23:02 <llAMYll> okie dokie
23:03 <Monkey_arma> is your computer still messed up amy?
23:04 <llAMYll> hasn't happened (yet) today :D
23:04 <Monkey_arma> well if you want me/us to go thruough a few things just say..i can think of some changes i would make
23:05 <llAMYll> but i haven't changed anything and it randomly comes up
23:05 <llAMYll> okay coolio
23:05 <llAMYll> :D
23:06 <Monkey_arma> well my *strong* recommendation is to alter your partition setup and your fstab. I also noted you dont have a swap partition
23:06 <llAMYll> what changes do you think i should do?
23:06 <llAMYll> yeah i don't
23:06 <llAMYll> but i have 3gb so i donno if i needed it
23:06 <Monkey_arma> and i would comment out one of the virtual filesystems
23:06 <llAMYll> virtual filesystem??
23:06 <Monkey_arma> what do you use the computer for?
23:06 <llAMYll> erm.. music, work
23:07 <llAMYll> web
23:07 <Monkey_arma> virtual filesystem is not a real filesystem..dont worry bout it
23:07 <Monkey_arma> ok so its not a server that people connect to..
23:07 <Monkey_arma> 3gb is huge
23:07 <llAMYll> my lappy sort of connects through to it
23:07 <llAMYll> by the thing on nautilus
23:08 <llAMYll> i donno what its called
23:08 <Monkey_arma> yes thats not the same thing tho..
23:08 <llAMYll> oh okay :)
23:08 <Monkey_arma> your excessive use of partitions might be causing something ....its possible :)
23:09 <llAMYll> but i've got something in every partition :s
23:09 <llAMYll> not alot
23:09 <llAMYll> but there is...
23:10 <llAMYll> so how do i comment out the virtual filesystem? and which one is the virtual one?
23:11 <llAMYll> they all look the same to me! lol
23:11 <noob13> how many partitions have you got?
23:11 <Monkey_arma> ok well you have several but the one i am talking about is the last one in your fstab
23:11 <noob13> u should definitely make one for swap memory...
23:11 <Monkey_arma> noob13 has ubuntu issues too
23:11 <llAMYll> 12 or 13
23:11 <Monkey_arma> but different ones i think
23:11 <llAMYll> i seee
23:12 <Monkey_arma> 13+
23:12 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:12 <llAMYll> noob13 are you using the new one?
23:12 <llAMYll> 13+?
23:12 <Monkey_arma> amy you have 13+ partitions
23:12 <llAMYll> am i missing some out?? lol
23:12 <llAMYll> i've just counted though!
23:12 <Monkey_arma> ok well 13 is about 9 too many
23:13 <noob13> actually i went back to gutsy because hardy failed a bit..
23:13 <noob13> and i had no effort to fix it..
23:13 <noob13> 7.10 always worked out-of-the-box
23:13 <llAMYll> gutsy didn't work for my desktop either so :(
23:13 <llAMYll> feisty worked great though
23:13 <noob13> hmm..what was the issue u were having?
23:14 <llAMYll> on my desktop, it kind of freezes and can't read the Hard disk
23:14 <llAMYll> on my laptop, its just freezes lol oh and on my laptop it doesn't mount the partitions :D
23:15 <llAMYll> so the desktop is blank
23:15 <llAMYll> if that made sense :S
23:15 <noob13> right, what file format are your partitions on your desktop?
23:15 <llAMYll> 10 fat32s and 2 ntfs
23:15 <llAMYll> i think
23:15 * Monkey_arma coughs
23:15 <Monkey_arma> more more
23:15 <llAMYll> what?
23:16 <llAMYll> :(
23:16 <llAMYll> ohhh
23:16 <Monkey_arma> dont you have one ext3 also?
23:16 <llAMYll> and 1 ext
23:16 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:16 <guru3> swap?
23:16 <llAMYll> and a cdrom drive
23:16 <Monkey_arma> no swap guru :\
23:16 <llAMYll> i don't have any swap guru3
23:16 <guru3> :O
23:16 <guru3> swap is good to have
23:16 <Monkey_arma> but 3gig ram is alot
23:16 <guru3> for the times when your programming and fuck up
23:16 <guru3> and it eats all your memory
23:16 <llAMYll> more than guru3!
23:16 <Monkey_arma> like i said...swap should be included
23:16 <guru3> if it starts swaping you generally notice in time to kill it
23:16 <llAMYll> but i don't do programming
23:17 <llAMYll> i play songs :D
23:17 <Monkey_arma> well even vids/music/iimages...etc
23:17 <Monkey_arma> it could happen
23:17 <Monkey_arma> unlikely but..
23:17 <Monkey_arma> gimp....
23:17 <llAMYll> i can't use gimp
23:17 <llAMYll> it confuses me
23:17 <noob13> can u sacrifice one of the partitions for swap maybe. that might really be the cause of all this...
23:17 <Monkey_arma> amy has lots of spce
23:18 <Monkey_arma> like many gigs
23:18 <llAMYll> i do run virtualboxes though
23:18 <Monkey_arma> amy can i ask why you dont just use one ntfs for all your multimedia and data?
23:18 <llAMYll> but even then, it only uses about 1.5gig
23:18 <Monkey_arma> virtualboxes ...ah..more mem
23:18 <llAMYll> because i don't like ntfs :(
23:18 <guru3> does it crash only when virtualbox is running
23:18 <llAMYll> nope
23:18 <Monkey_arma> why not?
23:19 <llAMYll> well... once it crashed just after it started
23:19 <Monkey_arma> that would not be due to the fs i reckon
23:19 <llAMYll> it started after booting**
23:19 <Monkey_arma> still i dont reckon ntfs issue
23:19 <llAMYll> i don't like ntfs because its evil microsoft thing
23:19 <llAMYll> and it takes longer to read and write on ubuntu
23:19 <Monkey_arma> and what is win32?
23:20 <Monkey_arma> well ok then use one win32 and one ntfs
23:20 <Monkey_arma> but not 12 :)
23:20 <llAMYll> but i have 2 hard disks!
23:20 <llAMYll> so you think i should just have 3-4 partitions?
23:21 <Monkey_arma> ok you have 2 HDs on your desktop?
23:21 <Monkey_arma> or one on desktop and one on laptop?
23:21 <llAMYll> yep
23:21 <llAMYll> 2 hard disks on my desktop
23:21 <llAMYll> theres one in my laptop
23:22 <Monkey_arma> My recommendation for you desktop is this:
23:22 <Monkey_arma> 1) Windows
23:22 <Monkey_arma> 2) Linux
23:22 <Monkey_arma> 3) Swap
23:22 <Monkey_arma> 4) fat32 storage
23:22 <Monkey_arma> 5) ntfs storage
23:22 <Monkey_arma> that is it
23:22 <Monkey_arma> at most
23:23 * noob13 agrees
23:23 <Monkey_arma> one of the storage could go even maybe
23:23 <Monkey_arma> windows xp you use?
23:23 * noob13 agrees again
23:23 <llAMYll> yep
23:23 <llAMYll> hmm..
23:23 <Monkey_arma> ok does your version of XP recognise fat32 and ntfs?
23:23 <llAMYll> yes
23:24 <Monkey_arma> what is the filesystem that it is on? fat32?
23:24 <llAMYll> yep :)
23:24 <Monkey_arma> is there a reason why you want to have another fat32?
23:24 <guru3> in case u need to reinstall xp
23:25 <llAMYll> 2 hard disks?
23:25 <llAMYll> oh and maybe that :D
23:25 <Monkey_arma> er... well i used to use windows and you could reinstall it and keep data on it..
23:25 <Monkey_arma> cant you do that in xp?
23:26 <Monkey_arma> just use some directories to store your data/multimedia
23:26 <llAMYll> erm.. i donno
23:26 <Monkey_arma> like c:\amystuff
23:26 <guru3> bit dangerous Monkey_arma
23:26 <Monkey_arma> well it never caused me issues
23:26 <Monkey_arma> but ok
23:26 <Monkey_arma> so 5 partitions
23:26 <llAMYll> i just format the XP partition and put it back by a huge .zip file :D
23:26 <guru3> lol
23:26 <guru3> that's actually
23:26 <guru3> really clever
23:26 <noob13> i'd keep OS and data storage seperated if possible
23:27 <Monkey_arma> ok so 5 partitions..but 14 (dont forget swap) is mad
23:27 <guru3> since fat 32 has no permissions
23:27 <guru3> you can do that
23:27 <guru3> lol
23:27 <guru3> brilliant idea amy
23:27 <llAMYll> :D
23:27 <Monkey_arma> on linux it is no issue
23:27 <Monkey_arma> directories are separated intelligently
23:27 <llAMYll> before i had linux, i used to have 2 XPs on my computer
23:27 <Monkey_arma> :0
23:27 <llAMYll> 1 is for backup with the huge zip file
23:27 <epsy> LOL!
23:27 <llAMYll> hehe
23:28 <Monkey_arma> lol indeed
23:29 <Monkey_arma> well are you happy to reduce the crazy 14 to a more respectable 5?
23:29 <llAMYll> but i'm cleverer now :D my windows XP doesn't have any network drivers and i only use it when i need to run programs on it
23:29 <llAMYll> it would take alot of work :(
23:29 <Monkey_arma> how much free space do you have? type the command "df"
23:29 <Monkey_arma> paste results here ..they dont care
23:30 <Monkey_arma> or
23:30 <Monkey_arma> dont
23:30 <Monkey_arma> you have 14
23:30 <noob13> i thought it doesn't recognise all drives?
23:30 <llAMYll> i'm sure guru3 won't mind :s
23:30 <llAMYll> oooo
23:30 <Monkey_arma> ok its only about 20 lines :\
23:30 <noob13> i say go for it...
23:30 <llAMYll> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda10 50394964 34383744 13451264 72% /
23:30 <llAMYll> varrun 1557904 136 1557768 1% /var/run
23:30 <llAMYll> varlock 1557904 0 1557904 0% /var/lock
23:30 <llAMYll> udev 1557904 88 1557816 1% /dev
23:30 <llAMYll> devshm 1557904 0 1557904 0% /dev/shm
23:30 <llAMYll> lrm 1557904 38176 1519728 3% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda1 103563 78058 25505 76% /media/sda1
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda5 20472816 7071872 13400944 35% /media/sda5
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda6 102348272 90980544 11367728 89% /media/sda6
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda7 102356304 26661888 75694416 27% /media/sda7
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda8 102348272 47156176 55192096 47% /media/sda8
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sda9 109394584 91216492 18178092 84% /media/sda9
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb1 40937680 12213840 28723840 30% /media/sdb1
23:30 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb5 40937680 39503200 1434480 97% /media/sdb5
23:31 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb6 40937680 37636960 3300720 92% /media/sdb6
23:31 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb7 40957684 36859252 4098432 90% /media/sdb7
23:31 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb8 40937680 19390064 21547616 48% /media/sdb8
23:31 <llAMYll> /dev/sdb9 39388160 10919504 28468656 28% /media/sdb9
23:31 <guru3> use pastebin next ime plz
23:31 <pavelo> JESUS CHRIST
23:31 <noob13> :D
23:31 <llAMYll> they told me to do it :(
23:31 <pavelo> who?
23:31 <noob13> i take all the blame.
23:31 <noob13> and push it towards monkey
23:31 <pavelo> i mean the [partitioning, not the pasting
23:32 <Monkey_arma> no you told us you would do it :)
23:32 <Monkey_arma> yes its crazy
23:32 <Monkey_arma> pav you ever seen that many?
23:32 <Monkey_arma> i have not
23:32 <llAMYll> sorry :(
23:32 <Monkey_arma> dont worry amy
23:32 <pavelo> nope, although my brother came pretty close
23:32 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:33 <Monkey_arma> how big are your HDs again amy?
23:33 <llAMYll> the first one sda is 500 and the second one sdb is 250
23:33 <Monkey_arma> so you have managed to fill over half of 750 gig
23:33 <Monkey_arma> wow
23:33 <pavelo> what's the advantage of having that many partitions? you get to drink coffee while you move files from one place to another ?
23:33 <Monkey_arma> i have a 20 gig hd with three OSs on it
23:34 <Monkey_arma> and a swap partition
23:34 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:34 <noob13> monkey is a minimalist.. i like it.
23:34 <Monkey_arma> heh
23:34 <guru3> i have 9 hard drives in my file server
23:34 <llAMYll> pavelo i'm just used to having loads, i use them like folders really
23:34 <llAMYll> stop boasting guru3 XD hehe
23:34 <pavelo> "loads" ?
23:34 <Monkey_arma> amy use folders like folders :)
23:34 <pavelo> yep
23:35 <pavelo> nevermind, i got it
23:35 <llAMYll> i have a 'song partition' a 'video partition'
23:35 <llAMYll> etc
23:35 <Monkey_arma> song folder, video folder, etc
23:35 <Monkey_arma> all in one storage partition would be the way to go imho
23:36 <noob13> u should make a media partition and the folders u said.
23:36 <llAMYll> but it will take ages if it needs to check for corrupt files :(
23:36 <pavelo> use a journaling fs
23:36 <Monkey_arma> why?
23:36 <noob13> perhaps start moving all important stuff onto sdb9 and remove the others
23:37 <Monkey_arma> i mean why to the taking ages thing
23:37 <llAMYll> because if it checks for corrupt files then it only needs to check on one partition
23:37 <Monkey_arma> oh i spose you use windows to do your checking
23:38 <llAMYll> if i have a huggge partition then it will take days
23:38 <Monkey_arma> cant you check folders in windows?
23:38 <llAMYll> well... windows tends to check all of mine when it starts up anyways lol
23:38 <Monkey_arma> you can turn that off i would guess
23:38 <llAMYll> erm..
23:38 <Monkey_arma> or maybe not?
23:38 <llAMYll> i donno
23:38 <pavelo> use EVIL ntfs, then it won't check
23:39 <llAMYll> but then ubuntu will be slow :(
23:39 <llAMYll> poor ubuntu
23:39 <Monkey_arma> checking should not be compulsory
23:39 <Monkey_arma> it is not on linux
23:39 <Monkey_arma> i doubt it is on win
23:39 <Monkey_arma> but MS..hmm
23:40 <pavelo> well, you really should check fat32 on an improper shutdown
23:40 <pavelo> not doing it is a big gamble
23:40 <Monkey_arma> pav but how often is improper?
23:40 <Monkey_arma> and that happens auto
23:41 <Monkey_arma> if win sees improper shutdown it calls scandisk
23:41 <epsy> #later tell Flex where the hell is your backup??
23:41 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
23:41 <pavelo> how often is what ?
23:42 <pavelo> that depends on the user i suppose
23:42 <Monkey_arma> windows can detect improper shutdown and it calls scandsik
23:42 <Monkey_arma> *i<-->s
23:42 <Monkey_arma> however the normal behaviour may be configurable
23:43 <Monkey_arma> like linux
23:43 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: checking is pretty compulsory on most Linux-based OS
23:43 <luke-jr> at least by default
23:43 <pavelo> what normal ? windows doesn't have periodic scandisks ?
23:44 <pavelo> ? -> .
23:44 <llAMYll> doesn't windows go to that weird blue screen with the yellow writing? (not the blue screen of death)
23:45 <pavelo> it does
23:45 <pavelo> when you have fat32
23:45 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr, wrong
23:45 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: wrong
23:45 <Monkey_arma> it is totally changable and standard is about every 29 times
23:45 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, wrong
23:45 <Monkey_arma> er luke-jr
23:46 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer, not wrong sry :)
23:46 <Monkey_arma> i use ext3 and it currently checks every 29 times
23:46 <Monkey_arma> i can turn that off if i want
23:46 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: if the system is not shutdown cleanly, most Linux-based OS will force a check
23:46 <Monkey_arma> we are not talking about not being shutdown
23:46 <luke-jr> obviously it's short with ext3, but it's still a check
23:46 <Monkey_arma> properly
23:46 * llAMYll has no idea on anything :(
23:46 <luke-jr> no?
23:47 <Monkey_arma> we are talking about standard boot
23:47 <luke-jr> never seen windows check on a clean boot
23:47 <pavelo> and windoze doesn't do fsck on a standard boot
23:47 <Monkey_arma> nor me ..but i dont use XP
23:47 <Monkey_arma> amy, check in your "startup" menu
23:47 <pavelo> and reiserfs ignores the fsck too i think
23:47 <llAMYll> vista does it as well :( the blue screen with the yellow writing
23:47 <Monkey_arma> see what programs are in that
23:47 <llAMYll> startup?? how do i get there?
23:48 <Monkey_arma> start button
23:48 <llAMYll> i'm on ubuntu
23:48 <llAMYll> XP doesn't have internet hehe
23:48 <Monkey_arma> so what is the issue?
23:48 <llAMYll> at the moment?? :s
23:48 <Monkey_arma> you are saying that ubuntu checks every time?
23:48 <llAMYll> what do you mean?
23:48 <llAMYll> noooo..
23:49 <luke-jr> just delete windoze
23:49 <llAMYll> windows checks everytime i go on it
23:49 <noob13> do you ever properly shut it down?
23:49 <llAMYll> yes
23:49 <noob13> hm
23:50 <epsy> properly means, not with the button
23:50 <llAMYll> yes i know XD
23:50 <epsy> >:D
23:50 <Monkey_arma> ok so amy i am saying that in windows if you go to the startup menu you may be able to turn off checking
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23:50 <pavelo> perhaps it is confused by all the partitions
23:50 <llAMYll> ohhh
23:50 <epsy> z0mgz0r
23:50 <Monkey_arma> pav i said that :)
23:50 <StickyNoob> cant belive i just got kicked from ctf
23:50 <Monkey_arma> haha
23:50 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, lol
23:50 <epsy> z0mgz0r
23:51 <Monkey_arma> for?
23:51 <StickyNoob> not respawning the enemy
23:51 <epsy> -.-
23:51 <pavelo> lol
23:51 <noob13> :P
23:51 <epsy> wtf..?
23:51 <Monkey_arma> there are some clowns in there..i have had some arguements
23:51 <StickyNoob> they descided it was base camping
23:51 <noob13> the check could be caused be changes that happened on some of the parttions since last boot..
23:51 <pavelo> ctf could be fun, if normal would play there
23:52 <Monkey_arma> pavelo, correct
23:52 <epsy> i mean, not respawning teammates can be okay as a reason, as it might not be obvious why do you do that
23:52 <llAMYll> noob13 i think that is it
23:52 <epsy> but not spawning ennemies
23:52 <pavelo> perhaps we should have a ctf tournament
23:52 <llAMYll> because if i boot into windows twice in a row it doesn't do it
23:52 <epsy> there is one
23:52 <Monkey_arma> there was one pav
23:52 <Monkey_arma> last night
23:52 <pavelo> rly ? who played/won ?
23:52 <epsy> last FFF there was one on the same day
23:52 <Monkey_arma> amy what command do you use to shutdown computer?
23:52 <StickyNoob> llAMYll: i descided i recon you have cableing issues on sdb
23:52 <Monkey_arma> from linux
23:53 <Monkey_arma> that was my opinion and i stick to it at the mo..
23:53 <Monkey_arma> as one of top possiblities
23:53 <pavelo> could the NTFS write thingy be causing the checks ?
23:53 <llAMYll> hmm.. okay, i will check the cables when i shut down my computer :D
23:53 <llAMYll> i donno :s
23:54 <epsy> if you boot windows
23:54 <Monkey_arma> nice to see StickyNoob changing his mind to agree with me ;)
23:54 <epsy> shut it down
23:54 <epsy> then boot windows again
23:54 <epsy> what happens?
23:54 <llAMYll> it boots windows :s
23:54 <llAMYll> what do you mean?
23:54 <Monkey_arma> he means does it check files?
23:54 <llAMYll> ohh
23:54 <epsy> heh
23:54 <llAMYll> no it doesn't :)
23:54 <epsy> ok
23:54 <Monkey_arma> ok
23:54 <noob13> if windows to wondows then not...
23:55 <Monkey_arma> its not the cables i reckon
23:55 <Monkey_arma> :)
23:55 <StickyNoob> well she had some UDMA_CRC_Error_Count which apparently points to bad cables and/or ide electronics
23:55 <epsy> windows to wondows hrhr
23:55 <pavelo> and it does that even on a fresh install ?
23:55 <noob13> :P
23:55 <Monkey_arma> how many times have you booted windows twice in a row?
23:55 <llAMYll> not many times
23:55 <llAMYll> because it doesn't have internet
23:56 <epsy> is that a reason? O8o
23:56 <epsy> O_o*
23:56 <llAMYll> pavelo it does what on a fresh install?
23:56 <pavelo> check files
23:56 <llAMYll> epsy nooooo lol XD
23:56 <epsy> pavelo, fresh install -> bye bye grub
23:56 <llAMYll> i didn't install the network drivers for windows
23:56 <pavelo> fresh install->reinstall grub
23:56 <llAMYll> yeah, i did that once :(
23:56 <llAMYll> it deleted linux
23:56 <noob13> :O
23:57 <pavelo> do it better
23:57 <Monkey_arma> amy, i dont think u need to fresh install
23:57 <epsy> noob13 and pavelo have the same name length AND the same color, meh
23:57 <pavelo> a fresh install of windows from time to time doesn't hurt
23:57 <Monkey_arma> same on my client..purple
23:57 <noob13> damn!
23:58 <noob13> Monkey_arma and StickyNoob have the same color for me...
23:58 <noob13> light green
23:58 <epsy> noob13, try 13noob
23:58 <llAMYll> they have different colours on mine
23:58 <epsy> O_o
23:58 <epsy> sticky noob is yellow
23:58 <epsy> Monkey_arma is, um
23:58 <llAMYll> monkey is purple :)
23:58 <Monkey_arma> ty ty
23:58 <epsy> some color i dont have anything to call it with
23:58 <llAMYll> sticky noob is yellow
23:58 <llAMYll> epsy is a weird greenish colour
23:59 <llAMYll> and noob13 is a light blue :D
23:59 <Monkey_arma> he is in rl too
23:59 <epsy> Monkey_arma, when you said purple, you meant the IM client or the color?
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23:59 <Monkey_arma> i the color
23:59 <epsy> oh lol
23:59 <noob13> what color is Lucifer_pen?
23:59 <Monkey_arma> he has not spoke yet
23:59 <epsy> orly?
23:59 <Monkey_arma> ok amy when did your computer last mess up?
23:59 <llAMYll> lucifer_pen is purple :s
23:59 <llAMYll> yesterday :P
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