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Log from 2008-04-18:
--- Day changed Fri Apr 18 2008
00:00 <Monkey_arma> thought i was spec
00:00 <luke-jr> Flex: and mice?
00:00 <Monkey_arma> sry madmax
00:00 <Flex> just never assumed tron would be effected
00:00 <Monkey_arma> ;)
00:00 <luke-jr> tron is effected by any problem relating to latency ☺
00:00 <Flex> it counts for mouses too i suspect.. same signal/wired connection
00:00 <Your_mom_arma> the speed of light is way too slow
00:00 <luke-jr> that explains why I suck with mouse
00:01 <Flex> it's not the speed.. something else
00:01 <Monkey_arma> its the lag
00:01 <Monkey_arma> keyboard latency
00:01 <Flex> it will improve over time though
00:01 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:01 <Flex> then us wireless users will laugh at their fagfaces
00:02 <luke-jr> wireless will always add some lag
00:02 <akira_> lag is ok
00:02 <akira_> what i dont like
00:02 <akira_> is spiking every 5 minutes
00:03 <akira_> for 2 secs
00:03 <luke-jr> akira_: that's not keyboard-related
00:03 <Flex> sounds like a signal issue
00:03 <akira_> but that may just be their silly wlan router
00:03 <akira_> yes luke
00:03 <akira_> was refering to the initial rant
00:03 <Flex> we're talking about latency on keyboards compared to wired/wireless
00:03 <akira_> o
00:03 <Monkey_arma> well...first of all every internet is a bit shit
00:03 <Monkey_arma> but wlan is worse
00:04 <Flex> but your issue/rant sounds like signal problems
00:04 <Flex> packet loss or something
00:04 <Flex> i dunno
00:04 <luke-jr> actually, internet tends to be fine
00:04 <Monkey_arma> and then...now im not claiming to be an expert..but one day we might just have network code version 2 ;)
00:04 <luke-jr> problem is mostly on teh ISPs
00:04  * Monkey_arma runs
00:05 <luke-jr> that's why you need to get service from me to host a good server :D
00:06 <Flex> akira_, search google for wireless spikes or something :p
00:12 <Flex> Monkey_arma, it's not the end of the world.. i'm sure they'll improve the latency sooner or later
00:14 <Flex> anyway i play with wireless keyboard so you aint got shit on us :p
00:16 <noob7> ahahahahaha
00:16 <noob7> sorry
00:17 <Flex> lol what
00:17 <noob7> luke-jr :P
00:18 <noob7> #13
00:18 <armabot> noob7: noob13 seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
00:18 <noob7> #monkey
00:18 <armabot> noob7: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 1 hour 42 minutes ago.
00:19 <luke-jr> noob7: ?
00:19 <noob7> I like how you always add that "I sell server slots" :)
00:19 <noob7> are you selling stuff in your 9-5 job?
00:19 <luke-jr> no
00:20 <luke-jr> wanna play a quick P&W on IRC?
00:20 <noob7> P&W ?
00:20 <luke-jr> Progs & Worms
00:20  * luke-jr ponders throwing together a Perl script to be the GM
00:20 <luke-jr> or maybe a supybot mod
00:21 <noob7> I have been awake for a little over 30h not a good idea I think
00:21 <noob7> but a spybot mod would be great actually
00:21 <luke-jr> spybot?
00:21  * noob7 cant type
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00:22 <noob7> heya dorka, when do signups open?
00:22 <luke-jr> Durka: are DDL settings public?
00:23 -!- Lucifer_pen [n=Miranda@m20677151018.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron
00:23 <Durka> luke-jr: why
00:23 <luke-jr> Durka: someone wants to setup a clone
00:23 <Durka> tell them no
00:23 <luke-jr> …
00:26 <noob7> so when do signups open?
00:27 <luke-jr> ?
00:28 <noob7> for that team tournament thingy, cant link you to the thread atm as I am playing
00:35 <Monkey_arma> luke-jr just wants to get someone else on one of his (rather poor) servers
00:36 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: better than most
00:36 <Monkey_arma> lmao
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00:43 <StickyNoob> hehe: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Armagetron "A game the passes the time, and can also consume lives for losers who play online all day, and get a kick out of it online everday."
00:46 <Monkey_arma> at least spell "that" correctly ....idk
00:46 <Monkey_arma> hey we dont play all day..just 75%
00:47 <StickyNoob> i believe wrtlprnft is keeping stats on how long we all polay
00:47 <StickyNoob> *play
00:48 <Monkey_arma> oO
00:48 <Monkey_arma> i know :\
00:48 <Monkey_arma> however..i dont smurf so its not quite correct...
00:48 <Monkey_arma> others smurf a lot of the time
00:49 <madmax> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm
00:49 <madmax> you play too much Monkey
00:49 <Monkey_arma> hey you smurf too..!
00:50 <Monkey_arma> believe me i would not be there if auth was compulsory
00:50 <StickyNoob> WOOO /me is not in the top 500
00:50 <Monkey_arma> yes i do tho lol
00:50 -!- Lackadaisical__ is now known as Lackadaisical
00:51 <Monkey_arma> sometimes i leave it in spec..that counts as playing...but not much so i cant blame that :)
00:51 <StickyNoob> fuck me monkey 7th??
00:51 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, i would not be 7th if auth was compulsory
00:51 <Monkey_arma> i dont smurf
00:51 <StickyNoob> me neither
00:51 <Monkey_arma> i do however play a lot
00:51 <Monkey_arma> you dont much i will say
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00:52 <Monkey_arma> however if we could do a poll on how many hours doing shit, many people would be high up
00:52 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away
00:52 <StickyNoob> i recon for some reason  it is not loging me
00:53 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:54 <Monkey_arma> epsy is 23 without the smurfs being registered....
00:55  * StickyNoob will start smurfing as Monkey to bump him up
00:55 <StickyNoob> i dont know any of the top6 (other than player 1)
00:56 <Monkey_arma> ok here is how accurate that is
00:56 <Monkey_arma> madmax aka MAD MAX lmao
00:56 <Monkey_arma> not the same perso
00:56 <madmax> Monkey_arma: 'i don't smurf' and 'you smurf too..!' aren't compatible
00:56 <Monkey_arma> yes they are
00:56 <Monkey_arma> <==== english
00:56 <StickyNoob> depends on if there is a 3rd person in the convo
00:57 <madmax> there wasn't
00:57 <Monkey_arma> it can refer to a previous sentence
00:57 <Monkey_arma> which it did
00:57 <madmax> fail.
00:57 <Monkey_arma> madmax, fail
00:57 <Monkey_arma> others smurf a lot of the time
00:57 <Monkey_arma> thats the one
00:58 <StickyNoob> how am i not in the top 500
00:58 <Monkey_arma> bug
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00:58 <Lackadaisical> is there an exciting game somewhere? i just got killed in the werewolf game
00:58 <StickyNoob> yo rico
00:58 <StickyNoob> #tea
00:59 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:59 <StickyNoob> #serverinfo CTF
00:59 <armabot> StickyNoob: Wild West  =CTF Shooting=: Players (5/10): >>Barbara-Jean<, MK, MySt3rY, XC| husky, |PwN|Carnage
00:59 <rico> morning
01:00 <Monkey_arma> rico on irc oO
01:00 <Monkey_arma> howdy
01:00 <madmax> Lackadaisical: probably DDL :-D
01:00 <Monkey_arma> heh
01:00 -!- Durka-away is now known as Durka
01:00 <StickyNoob> rico: i take it you wernt at the game earlier?
01:00 <Monkey_arma> ye lack the regulars there are asking where you are
01:00 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away
01:00 <rico> no, i forgot
01:00 <Lackadaisical> ouch
01:00 <StickyNoob> appaerntly x got the crap kicked out of them
01:01 <rico> i heard
01:01 <Lackadaisical> against?
01:01 <Monkey_arma> lmao by DS
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01:01 <StickyNoob> yeah
01:01 <Monkey_arma> :\
01:01 <rico> ah well
01:01  * rico blames france
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01:02 <Monkey_arma> the french..they dont have clocks either
01:02 <rico> cocks*
01:02 <hoax> nah france is full of cocks
01:02 <rico> ha
01:02 <rico> just ask fo
01:02 <epsy> Monkey_arma, ??
01:03 <Monkey_arma> yes epsy
01:03 <rico> gaypsy:p
01:03 <epsy> <Monkey_arma> epsy is 23 without the smurfs being registered....
01:03 <Monkey_arma> and....?
01:03  * epsy didn't know he was more than one
01:03 <Monkey_arma> you smurf a bit..but not much
01:03 <epsy> what the hell did that mean monk
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01:03 <Monkey_arma> relax its just a joke
01:03 <epsy> um..
01:03 <epsy> not really
01:04 <Monkey_arma> its true but im messin with you
01:04 <Monkey_arma> as in havin a laugh
01:04 <Monkey_arma> so chill
01:04 <MaZuffeR> 23 = 23rd?
01:04 <Monkey_arma> ah MaZuffeR  to the rescue
01:04 <Monkey_arma> yes 23rd
01:04 <MaZuffeR> :)
01:04 <Monkey_arma> you didnt understand that?
01:04 <Monkey_arma> epsy you fool
01:04 <epsy> 23rd at what
01:05 <Monkey_arma> epsy read up
01:05 <madmax> ahh the context issue
01:05 <Monkey_arma> and also turn up...to  tourneys that you create
01:05 <Monkey_arma> :\
01:05 <Monkey_arma> <======== expects abuse now
01:05 <epsy> wow
01:06 <epsy> i was like 50th yesterday, i remember having checked that day
01:06 <epsy> i played like for 3 mins
01:06 <epsy> but let arma in spec mode for hours long in bg lol
01:06  * Monkey_arma smells something
01:07 <epsy> you smell the monkey ahahah not funny
01:07 <madmax> my excuse is that 'mad max' plays much more than me
01:07 <Monkey_arma> nice one max
01:08 <hoax> all those nights in nexus nine takin thier toll eh max
01:08 <Monkey_arma> "01:10:49 <@noob7> epsy? that gay dude from france?"
01:08 <StickyNoob> my excuse is that the powers that be dont want the world to know my awesome power and so conspier with the man to keep me off the list
01:08 <epsy> Monkey_arma, /me didn't create any tourney
01:08 <madmax> hoax: says the 86er to the 219er :P
01:09 <hoax> lol :/
01:09 <Monkey_arma> epsy, ok organised
01:10 <StickyNoob> #rating sticky
01:10 <armabot> StickyNoob: I don't know anything about 'sticky'!
01:10 <StickyNoob> #rating |x|_sticky
01:10 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|_sticky is 537th with a rating of 1581-1609 (from 1565-1607)
01:10 <StickyNoob> feel the awesome power
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01:12 <Monkey_arma> ye ok so we trust that entirely
01:12 <Monkey_arma> #rating luke-jr
01:12 <armabot> Monkey_arma: luke-jr is 67th with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
01:12 <Monkey_arma> dubious
01:12 <StickyNoob> humph
01:13 <StickyNoob> screw you guys im going home
01:13 <StickyNoob> #rating madmax
01:13 <armabot> StickyNoob: madmax is 1484th with a rating of 1526-1610 (from 1150-1850)
01:13 <noob13> #rating noob13
01:13 <armabot> noob13: noob13 is 1305th with a rating of 1535-1554 (from 1535-1559)
01:13 <noob13> nice!
01:13 <madmax> muhahaha
01:13 <StickyNoob> 1484??? yeah thats lies
01:13 <Lackadaisical> max is like 22th
01:13 <Lackadaisical> #rating madmax@forums
01:13 <armabot> Lackadaisical: I don't know anything about 'madmax@forums'!
01:14 <Monkey_arma> and luke is not even in triple figures let alone doublle
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01:14 <Lackadaisical> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/ says that madmax is 22nd
01:14 <Lackadaisical> i was 15th once :(
01:16 <StickyNoob> can you get more than the top 25?
01:17 <Monkey_arma> i dont reckon any of those are accurate...they cant take in to account the roles in team games
01:18 <madmax> gnight
01:18 <Monkey_arma> cu
01:18 <Lackadaisical> gnight
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01:19 <flea> heya
01:19 <Monkey_arma> hi there
01:19 <flea> i'm trying to emerge armagetronad from layman
01:19 <flea> i'm gettin the ft_free not found in configure
01:19 <flea> wondering if that has been addressed
01:19 <flea> seen the post from jul.07
01:22 <flea> just found a newer post from this year
01:22 <flea> but hard maskin armagetronad didnt work either
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01:22 <flea> -~amd64
01:24 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: dubious cuz I pwn u
01:25 <luke-jr> #rating 0:madmax@forums
01:25 <armabot> luke-jr: 0:madmax@forums is 22nd with a rating of 1695-1804 (from 1150-1850)
01:25 <StickyNoob> heh
01:25 <StickyNoob> whats the 0: do?
01:25 <StickyNoob> #rating 0:Sticky@x
01:26 <armabot> StickyNoob: timed out
01:26 <StickyNoob> nothing for me clearly
01:26 <Monkey_arma> i would reply to luke-jr but my sides have just split with laughter and i need to seek medical attention
01:27 <Monkey_arma> #rating 0:monkey@x
01:27 <luke-jr> flea: what version of freetype?
01:27 <armabot> Monkey_arma: timed out
01:27 <flea> luke-jr, hey! freetype-2.3.5-r2
01:28 <luke-jr> z-man-work: aww, let them lose so we can play a new game
01:28 <luke-jr> flea: link me the post?
01:28 <flea> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-640952.html?sid=f98c186a23b93519585af68b9b3fa270
01:30 <luke-jr> flea: does the problem occur with trunk?
01:30 <flea> tryin now Lucifer
01:30 <flea> oops
01:30 <flea> luke-jr,
01:30 <Ttech> orly
01:30 <Ttech> :H
01:30 <luke-jr> oh, freetype not ftgl
01:30 <luke-jr> I think I know that one
01:31 <flea> :>
01:31 <flea> checking for FT_Free in -lfreetype... no
01:31 <luke-jr> we were using some internal unsupported freetype func
01:35 <flea> hrm i just grabbed: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0.src.tar.gz
01:35 <flea> and i have no configure script anywhere
01:35 <StickyNoob> bootstrap.sh?
01:35 <flea> ran it
01:36 <Monkey_arma> :(
01:36 <Monkey_arma> what about the version of aclocal you are using
01:36 <Monkey_arma> that was an issue for some
01:36 <Monkey_arma> try later version
01:36 <StickyNoob> what does bootstrap finnish with?
01:36 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Lähdössä"]
01:37 <flea> autoconf-2.62
01:37 <flea> it says to run ./configure
01:37 <flea> (successfully)
01:37 <StickyNoob> yeah mine ends with "Done!  You may now run configure and start building."
01:37 <flea> so it seems
01:37 <luke-jr> flea: wanna post on there for me? I can't login
01:37 <flea> i dont have a login
01:37 <luke-jr> meh
01:37 <flea> but will hold
01:37 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8410 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): patch freetype check
01:37 <flea> f.go ?
01:38 <luke-jr> flea: try that one
01:38 <luke-jr> Monkey_arma: has nothing to do with autoconf
01:39 <luke-jr> well, I shouldn't say nothing
01:39 <luke-jr> but not that much ☺
01:39 <luke-jr> FT_Free just isn't a supported symbol
01:41 <Monkey_arma> i dont know what errors hes getting..just saying if you get bootstrap issues thats one option
01:48 <flea> sorry back, so is there a patch against the ft_free call ?
01:48 <flea> id rather resolve that one as it can run configure lol
01:56 <flea> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5065049.html#5065049
02:03 <flea> hah i just synced and got
02:04 <flea> A    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/files/030_fix-freetype-check.patch
02:04 <flea> U    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0-r1.ebuild
02:04 <flea> U    /usr/portage/local/layman/armagetron/games-action/armagetronad/Manifest
02:04 <flea> Updated to revision 8410.
02:04 <flea> ty
02:08 <luke-jr> #rating prowler
02:08 <armabot> luke-jr: prowler is 7976th with a rating of 1321-1458 (from 1322-1457)
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02:11 <ct|kyle> #rating ct_ky13
02:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct_ky13 is 8070th with a rating of 1319-1470 (from 1320-1469)
02:12 <ct|kyle> :D never play on servers that use it
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02:32 <mkzelda> ah ty for that patch, been fixing that manually for a year or so
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02:49  * luke-jr mutters about people who don't report bugs
02:50 <noob7> #ss K I N
02:50 <armabot> noob7: | - G r i d  K i n g  L a n d- | USA DDL Clone (2/16): PLAYERS (2): gK|Prowler (0), AndY bR (-2)
02:50 <noob7> so the clone is up then? :P
02:50 <noob13> oh its a USA serv..?
02:50 <Durka> ghei
02:52  * mkzelda mutters something about mentioning it 10+ times or so
02:52 <noob7> durka, at least half of the faggots from DDL will now be on the US server
02:52 <Durka> that's not the point
02:52 <noob7> it actually is
02:52 <Durka> would you want me to create 4 clones of all the MCP servers and jack half ur players?
02:52 <noob7> go ahead
02:53 <noob7> :)
02:53 <Durka> meh
02:53 <Durka> :P
02:53 <noob7> if you take the faggots
02:53 <noob7> thats cool with me
02:53 <noob7> also, prowler does not have your settings
02:53 <noob7> he is begging for them on MSN actually
02:54  * noob7 is really amused by all this
02:54 <noob7> especially then fact that they are paying luke xD
02:55 <noob7> (well I hope they are)
02:55 <Durka> ha xD
02:55 <noob7> this really pissing you off durka?
02:55 <Durka> no
02:55 <noob7> ok :)
02:55 <Durka> but luke wont stop IMing me
02:55 <noob7> hehehe
02:56 <Durka> "GIMME T3H SETT1N6Z!
02:56 <noob7> arma is so hilarious
02:56 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: want a bug i found
02:56 <noob7> lols
02:56  * noob7 needs to go outside now
02:56 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no, if it's you, you are the bug
02:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: on the 0.3.0 trunk, there is a menu glitch
02:57 <luke-jr> Durka agreed to email me teh settings :þ
02:57 <Durka> :D
02:58 <noob7> yay
02:58 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: there is no 0.3.0 trunk foo
02:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: whatever the trunk is
02:59 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: custom connect menu does not work if you go in subcultures menu
03:00 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: good for you
03:00 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: fix it
03:00 <mkzelda> he'll get to it in a year or so
03:02 <ct|kyle> that soon?
03:02 <ct|kyle> i may find it by then
03:14 <luke-jr> you find a bug?
03:14 <luke-jr> lolol
03:14 <luke-jr> ;)
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03:40 <luke-jr> hm
03:40 <luke-jr> the worm's already left?
03:40 <luke-jr> oh well, maybe later ☺
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03:52 <luke-jr> heh
03:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer just guaranteed his own survival past this turn
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04:42 <Durka> Lucifer / Lucifer_bed ping
04:42 <Lucifer> Durka / Dorka ping
04:42 <Durka> haha :D
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04:44 <Lucifer> you get my response, durka?
04:53 <Durka> Lucifer is smexy
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06:23 <Lucifer> word to the wise from the unwise: don't drive barefoot in a cold thunderstorm without a working heater
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07:07 <Durka> Lucifer smells
07:07 <Durka> Lucifer_bed does too
07:12 <Lucifer> there's no way in hell this wine is good
07:12 <Durka> :O
07:12 <Lucifer> I wonder if I can get my money back if I take it in and tell them it's bad
07:13 <Durka> rofl
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07:18 <Durka> #kill MrBougo
07:18 <armabot> MrBougo will die on Fri Apr 18 07:25:29 2008 due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
07:18 <MrBougo> you got my msg, didn't you?
07:18 <MrBougo> :p
07:18 <MrBougo> I don't even remember what it said
07:19 <Lucifer> this is extremely disappointing
07:19 <Lucifer> this wine is corked!
07:19 <Lucifer> this is a corked wine!
07:19 <Lucifer> grrrrr
07:20 <Durka> yea :(
07:20 <Durka> it was like "hi"
07:20 <Durka> :P
07:21  * Lucifer is really disappointed
07:21 <Lucifer> it has the most horrible smell coming from it
07:22 <Lucifer> gives me the shivers just thinking about it
07:22  * Lucifer will see if the store will take it back tomorrow and let him get a different bottle
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07:31 <MrBougo> bye
07:32 <MrBougo> ewww, wine
07:32  * MrBougo hides
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07:40 <Lucifer> I'm still shuddering thinking about that wine
07:45 <Lucifer> I think tasting that wine was the worst moment of my life
08:04 <Lucifer> I'm gonna have nightmares about it, I just know it
08:04 <Lucifer> should've bought the blush instead
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09:57 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/scalar.h.txt
09:58 <z-man> you don't like comments, apparently :)
09:58 <pippijn> z-man: didn't have time, yet
09:59 <pippijn> I was happy enough it worked at all :-)
10:01 <pippijn> z-man: the mathematical operator predicates are generated, by the way
10:01 <pippijn> z-man: and so are the operators themselves
10:02 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/91a9a2ddfe73404eca1f193451cbcc38.txt <-  like this
10:03 <z-man> What's that for a language?
10:03 <pippijn> perl
10:08 <pippijn> z-man:
10:08 <pippijn> oops
10:08 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/f5e632f33ce29a759c6eac41adbe30af.txt
10:08 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/c53c51b368911c068d26c783401717a8.txt <- this is what the map looks like
10:08 <pippijn> it's a map<scalar,scalar>
10:09 <z-man> aha, nice.
10:10 <pippijn> I don't know how to define the semantics of scalar+scalar
10:11 <pippijn> there are always three types a scalar can currently have
10:11 <pippijn> should I just throw an exception if you try to add up an int-scalar and a string-scalar or should the int be converted to string and added?
10:11 <pippijn> I don't know how to implement the latter
10:12 <pippijn> throwing exceptions when you don't know how to handle a situation is easy
10:14 <pippijn> okay
10:14 <pippijn> I do know how to implement the latter, but not how to do it efficiently
10:43 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/4314f6f48c515c79df4e3305d4808c31.txt
10:48 <pippijn> z-man: what do you think?
10:49 <z-man> Don't ask me complicated things before I drunk my coffee :)
10:49 <pippijn> okay :-)
10:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: why would wise people need your advice? ;-)
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11:05 <Durka> wrtlprnft :\
11:05 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/45d1e56936090f62d2a26ccb53536ac9.txt <- crtp really is useful
11:08 <z-man> Nice again.
11:08 <Durka> z-man did you see Lucifer's post?
11:08 <z-man> which one?
11:09 <z-man> Ah, the one where he announced to protect you?
11:09  * z-man is not commenting
11:09 <Durka> no
11:10 <Durka> about how he announced his identity
11:10 <Durka> is that even allowed?
11:10 <z-man> It is allowed, but I will neither back up nor refute his claims.
11:11 <z-man> Hrm, computer is getting sluggish, must restart kde.
11:11 <pippijn> z-man: I added another type called NI (not initialised)
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11:12 <pippijn> O.o
11:12 <pippijn> oh
11:12 <Durka> lol
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11:13 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/039720e212f7dd7cff3738b69ffb4457.txt
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11:13 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/039720e212f7dd7cff3738b69ffb4457.txt
11:13 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/533b504db596074a6bc9c5c9d5f5c7c3.txt
11:13 <pippijn> scalars are "uninitialised" when they are first created
11:14 <z-man> Probably a good idea.
11:15 <pippijn> I'm adding the check to all operations
11:15 <pippijn> it will slow things down a bit, but it's safer
11:15 <pippijn> operating on uninitialised scalars is Bad
11:18 <Durka> z-man: so you're saying that Luci could be lying and he's not saving me?
11:18 <Durka> shit
11:19 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/f351b87e52f3bd6b74812af5214ad2c3.txt
11:20 <pippijn> now I have things like:
11:20 <pippijn>     bool operator == (T const &rhs) const
11:20 <pippijn>     {
11:20 <pippijn>       initialised ("comparison");
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11:23 <pippijn>   bar += 3;
11:23 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in addition
11:23 <pippijn>   bar *= 3;
11:23 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in multiplication
11:24 <pippijn>   bar ^= 3;
11:24 <pippijn>   what():  Use of uninitialized value in bitwise exclusive OR
11:24 <pippijn> etc..
11:24 <pippijn> z-man: cool huh :-D
11:24 <z-man> pippijn: yeah :)
11:24 <pippijn> z-man: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/7ba6630450aaa991e2d38017c36ab599.txt <- named operations defined here
11:25 <z-man> Durka: i'm saying exactly nothing :)
11:25 <Durka> :P
11:26 <pippijn> c++ is awesome
11:26 <pippijn> really
11:26 <Durka> z-man: how often are we going to be doing this game?
11:26 <pippijn> it so is
11:26 <z-man> Durka: dunno, as often as you guys want
11:26 <Durka> pippijn is awesome
11:26 <pippijn> why?
11:27 <Durka> aww you're never going to participate? :(
11:31 <pippijn> dunno :-)
11:32 <spidey> what the fuck
11:32 <spidey> i think we just had a tremor x_X
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11:39 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/structadt_1_1scalar__coll__graph.png
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12:14 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8411 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gRotation.h): wrtlprnft: Fixed an include safeguard that probably caused voodoo quite a headache
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13:13 <z-man-work> #later tell Durka z-man slaps you for USING SO MUCH BOLD TEXT.
13:13 <armabot> z-man-work: The operation succeeded.
13:13 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:20 <wrtlprnft> Apr 18 11:18:38 [1] killerbees19: TOADMIN. This server is great!!! :)
13:20 <wrtlprnft> now that's an encuraging log message
13:20 <wrtlprnft> Apr 18 11:58:04 [7] durk: TOADMIN i got wrtlpwnd :\
13:20 <wrtlprnft> that isn't
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14:18 <llAMYll> haha guru3!
14:18 <llAMYll> =P
14:20 <guru3> ...
14:26 <llAMYll> :)
14:33 <z-man-work> LOLSPAM?
14:34 <llAMYll> lolspam :D
14:36 <llAMYll> i can't open armagetron anymore :(
14:36 <llAMYll> everytime i try to run it, because i set it to window mode and has made itself really really slow, and i have to restart X
14:36 <llAMYll> where does the configuration file get saved to? :)
14:38 <llAMYll> do you reckon its because my monitor's too big ? i can't seem to be able to do the thing you did :(
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14:40 <StickyNoob> config files are in ~/.armagetron/
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14:43 <llAMYll> okay ;) cheers
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17:56 <madmax> ouch
17:56 <pippijn> ouch?
18:07 <madmax> ouch @ torres' connection
18:10 <wrtlprnft> nah, it's probably the same as pippijn's
18:10 <wrtlprnft> he's just testing it and keeps making changes that need a restart to take effect
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i; cout << (i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> ‘i’ is used uninitialized in this function
18:11 <wrtlprnft> stfu!
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i=42; cout << (i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> 41
18:11 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int i=42; cout << (&i - 1); }
18:11 <torres> 0x7fffba61f1f0
18:12 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int *i=0; cout << *(&i - 1); }
18:12 <torres> 0
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18:12 <wrtlprnft> torres: { int *i=0; cout << *(&i - 2); }
18:12 <torres> 0x7fff55861510
18:12 <madmax> :O
18:13 <madmax> oh, so this is what you've been talking about around here?
18:13 <wrtlprnft> that was z-man-work and pippijn
18:13 <wrtlprnft> but it was something entirely different
18:13 <wrtlprnft> about pippijn's crazy template inventions and his own preprocessor
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18:14 <epsy> :P
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18:18 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: exactly
18:18 <pippijn> I was modifying it
18:19 <pippijn> torres: { scalar s = 20; cout << s + 10; }
18:19 <torres> suggest parentheses around && within ||
18:19 <pippijn> bleh
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; cout << s + 10; }
18:19 <torres> 30
18:19 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: that warning is a gcc bug
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; cout << s + "10"; }
18:19 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:19 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); cout << s + "10"; }
18:19 <torres> 2010
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); s.force<int> (); s %= 221; cout << s; } }
18:20 <torres> expected declaration before ‘}’ token
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = 20; s.force<std::string> (); s += "10"; s.force<int> (); s %= 221; cout << s; }
18:20 <torres> 21
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s = "20"; s += 10; }
18:20 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s; s += 10; }
18:20 <torres> runtime_error: Use of uninitialised value in addition
18:20 <pippijn> torres: -n { scalar s; s = 10; }
18:20 <torres> Compilation and execution successful, no program output.
18:21 <pippijn> it's funny how c++ generates operator= for me
18:21 <pippijn> I didn't define any
18:21 <pippijn> but gcc can do it, because scalar has only one member
18:21 <pippijn> torres: << sizeof (scalar)
18:21 <torres> 24
18:21 <wrtlprnft> copy assignment is always autoimplemented by the compiler
18:21 <pippijn> which is rather large :-)
18:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: 10 is not of type scalar
18:22 <wrtlprnft> implicit constructor?
18:22 <pippijn> yes
18:22 <pippijn> it's convertible
18:22 <pippijn> torres: << tr1::is_convertible<int, scalar>::value
18:22 <torres> true
18:22 <wrtlprnft> torres: << scalar("20") + 42;
18:22 <torres> suggest parentheses around && within ||
18:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: use -n
18:22 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar("20") + 42;
18:22 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in addition
18:23 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar("20") + scalar(42);
18:23 <torres> 2042
18:23 <pippijn> right
18:23 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar(20) + scalar("42");
18:23 <torres> 62
18:23 <pippijn> that one is uhm
18:23 <pippijn> I didn't implement it
18:23 <pippijn> the compiler does wild conversions to allow for that
18:24 <pippijn> quite funny
18:24 <pippijn> operator + (scalar, scalar) is not commutative
18:24 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i noticed
18:24 <pippijn> but neither is operator==
18:24 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << scalar(20) == scalar("20");
18:24 <torres> no match for ‘operator==’ in ‘adt::operator<<(((ostream&)(& cout)), ((const adt::scalar&)((const adt::scalar*)(& adt::scalar(((const int&)((const int*)(&20)))))))) == adt::scalar(((const char (&)[3])"20"))’
18:24 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: parentheses
18:24 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(20) == scalar("20"));
18:24 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (20) == scalar ("20 apples"))
18:25 <torres> false
18:25 <wrtlprnft> darn bit shift operator abuse
18:25 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20 apples") == scalar (20))
18:25 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: see
18:25 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("20") == scalar(20));
18:25 <torres> true
18:25 <pippijn> I did implement op ==
18:25 <pippijn> and it gets converted to the type of the second
18:25 <pippijn> the rhs
18:25 <wrtlprnft> ah
18:25 <pippijn> I don't know what it does for operator +
18:26 <wrtlprnft> convert to the first apparently
18:26 <pippijn> I don't know what it does in between
18:26 <pippijn> whether it converts at all
18:26 <pippijn> because op+ is a template
18:26 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("") + scalar(M_PI));
18:26 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:26 <pippijn> op+ is defined using op+=
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (M_PI) + scalar (""))
18:27 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:27 <pippijn> hm
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar (M_PI) + scalar ("world"))
18:27 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:27 <pippijn> yes
18:27 <pippijn> but this sucks
18:27 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("pi is ") + scalar (M_PI))
18:27 <torres> pi is 3.14159265358979
18:27 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("5") * scalar("7"));
18:27 <torres> 57
18:27 <pippijn> O.o
18:27 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("5") * scalar(7));
18:27 <torres> 57
18:28 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(7) * scalar("hi!"));
18:28 <torres> 7
18:28 <wrtlprnft> err, no comment?
18:28 <pippijn> that's not good
18:28 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't that be 0 or something?
18:28 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I didn't define it..
18:28 <pippijn> the compiler does things I have no control over
18:28 <pippijn> the semantics of scalar <op> scalar are not defined by me
18:29 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(2) << scalar(1));
18:29 <torres> 3
18:29 <wrtlprnft> now that's odd ;-D
18:29 <pippijn> I should implement them..
18:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(M_PI) << scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)));
18:30 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:30 <wrtlprnft> err, WHAT?
18:30 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(M_PI) + scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)));
18:30 <torres> 3.14159265358979
18:30 <pippijn> uhm
18:30 <pippijn> "complex" is no scalar btw :-)
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18:31 <pippijn> torres: << scalar (std::complex<double>(1,2))
18:31 <torres> (1,2)
18:31 <pippijn> it becomes a string
18:32 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(42,3.141)"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:32 <torres> (42,3.141)
18:32 <wrtlprnft> i didn't know that was possible
18:32 <pippijn> yes
18:33 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar(std::complex<double>(1,2)) + scalar(std::complex<double>(3,4)))
18:33 <torres> (1,2)(3,4)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("42 3.141"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> (42,0)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("42i 3.141"); std::complex<double> c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> (42,0)
18:34 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s((1,2),(3,4)); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:34 <torres> no matching function for call to ‘basic_istringstream<char, char_traits<char> >::basic_istringstream(int, int)’
18:35 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(1,2),(3,4)"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << c;}
18:35 <torres> ((1,0),(2,0))
18:35 <wrtlprnft> neat.
18:35 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(1,2),(3,4)"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c*c);}
18:35 <torres> ((-3,0),(4,0))
18:36 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("((1,2),(3,4))"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c);}
18:36 <torres> ((1,2),(3,4))
18:36 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("((1,2),(3,4))"); std::complex<std::complex<double> > c; s >> c; std::cout << (c*c);}
18:36 <torres> ((4,-20),(-10,20))
18:36  * wrtlprnft stops spamming, there's no real use for that crazyness, anyways
18:36 <wrtlprnft> except if those doubly complex numbers magically become quaternions
18:37 <pippijn> ok
18:37 <wrtlprnft> one more useless spam
18:37 <pippijn> almost done
18:38 <wrtlprnft> torres: {std::istringstream s("(hi,bye)"); std::complex<std::string> c; s >> c; std::cout << (c+c);}
18:38 <torres> (,)
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18:39 <pippijn> I didn't test it..
18:39 <pippijn> but I think this should work
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18:40 <pippijn> torres: << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:40 <torres> ambiguous overload for ‘operator+’ in ‘adt::scalar(((const char (&)[3])"20")) + adt::scalar(((const int&)((const int*)(&10))))’
18:40 <pippijn> hm
18:40 <pippijn> op
18:40 <pippijn> ok
18:40 <pippijn> doesn't work
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18:40 <pippijn> needs work :-)
18:42  * wrtlprnft wonders why torres needs to be restarted for pure header file changes
18:42 <pippijn> probably doesn't
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18:45 <pippijn> torres: << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> control reaches end of non-void function
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") + scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> 30
18:45 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: now its semantics are well-defined
18:45 <pippijn> conversion to type of rhs
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar (10))
18:45 <torres> 30
18:45 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar ("10"))
18:45 <torres> 2010
18:45 <pippijn> oi
18:46 <pippijn> bad
18:46 <pippijn> actually that's weird
18:48 <pippijn> oh!
18:48 <pippijn> stupid
18:49 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") * scalar ("10"))
18:49 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication
18:49 <pippijn> yeah
18:49 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10))
18:49 <torres> 20480
18:49 <pippijn> that's correct
18:50 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10.3))
18:50 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in left shift
18:51 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(10))
18:51 <torres> 0
18:51 <wrtlprnft> ;-D
18:51 <Lucifer> hi armabot!
18:51 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar ("20") << scalar (10.3))
18:51 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in left shift (real number)
18:51 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: quite expected
18:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh
18:52 <wrtlprnft> conversion to RHS
18:52 <pippijn> yes
18:52 <Lucifer> we need a new name for the twg channel
18:52 <pippijn> I think it makes sense
18:52 <pippijn> don't you?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> one might naively expect "aaaaaaaaaa"
18:52 <Lucifer> it looks too much like armatwatgetron
18:52 <pippijn> ah
18:52 <pippijn> well
18:52 <pippijn> I can implement it
18:52 <wrtlprnft> #thearmagetronwormgame
18:53 <wrtlprnft> i don't know, you should know whether it makes sense
18:54 <pippijn> ok
18:54 <pippijn> just for fun
18:54 <pippijn> I will only implement it for scalar*scalar
18:55 <pippijn> not for scalar*int
18:55 <Lucifer> spidey: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=aKl6Ye0p4.ZA&refer=canada
18:56 <spidey> lol
18:56 <spidey> lucifer i felt it last night
18:56 <spidey> :D
18:56 <spidey> :S*
18:56 <Lucifer> yeah, I saw you commenting on it, then I saw the news that there was a quake and you weren't hallucinating
18:56 <spidey> heh
18:57 <spidey> when did i comment on it?
18:57 <Lucifer> you're pretty far from Belmont though, right?
18:57 <spidey> O_o
18:57 <spidey> ugh
18:57 <spidey> i'm in northwest TN
18:57 <wrtlprnft> i heard spidey's cry of fear travelling all around the globe
18:57 <spidey> no idear where belmont is
18:57 <Lucifer> [04:39] <spidey> i think we just had a tremor x_X
18:57 <spidey> mm
18:59 <pippijn> it might work
18:59 <pippijn> I didn't test it
18:59 <pippijn> torres: -n << scalar ("a") * scalar (10)
18:59 <torres> aaaaaaaaaaa
18:59 <pippijn> yep
18:59 <wrtlprnft> :-)
19:00 <pippijn> won't work for normal int
19:00 <pippijn> torres: -n << scalar ("a") * 10
19:00 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication
19:00 <pippijn> it's all a bit hacky
19:00 <wrtlprnft> i noticed that
19:00 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/69c96c153a06d62c6f0fbdb329b0d5ca.txt
19:01 <pippijn> I'll probably rewrite it when I have time
19:01 <wrtlprnft> do i have to understand that?
19:01 <pippijn> it's clear, isn't it?
19:01 <pippijn> first a type-switch for rhs
19:01 <pippijn> and if rhs is an int, then another type-switch for *this
19:02 <pippijn> and if lhs is a string, create a new string multiplied with the int
19:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i understand now
19:02 <wrtlprnft> now that i figured out what NV and SV and all that mean
19:02 <pippijn> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/bed2d72e4d7c8651fb77df3d0b7f9bed.txt
19:03 <spidey> lucifer, roughly 400 miles
19:03 <spidey> 'er
19:03 <pippijn> I wonder what's faster
19:03 <pippijn> conversion to T and operating on two Ts
19:03 <spidey> 320-340ish, looking at google maps
19:03 <pippijn> or direct manipulation of the internal values
19:04 <pippijn> it was a nontrivial task implementing the latter
19:04 <wrtlprnft> you might want to reserve characters in the new string when multiplicating
19:04 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/4d73d8cf35854620040f22de7bddc82c.txt
19:04 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: yes, I will, at rewrite
19:04 <pippijn> not now
19:04 <pippijn> now I am going to have dinner
19:04 <wrtlprnft> enjoy your meal
19:05 <pippijn> thanks
19:05 <wrtlprnft> torres: << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <torres> control reaches end of non-void function
19:05 <wrtlprnft> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <pippijn> enjoy the code
19:05 <torres> aaa
19:05 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: gcc bug :-(
19:05 <pippijn> oi
19:05 <pippijn> oh yes
19:05 <wrtlprnft> just noticed that when reading the code
19:05 <wrtlprnft> i still enjoy it ;-)
19:05 <pippijn> yeah
19:05 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:05 <torres> aaa
19:05 <pippijn> hum
19:05 <pippijn> oh
19:06 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar(2))
19:06 <torres> aa
19:06 <wrtlprnft> :-)
19:06 <pippijn> torres: -n << (scalar("a") * scalar("2"))
19:06 <torres> runtime_error: Incompatible types in multiplication (string)
19:06 <pippijn> cya
19:08 <Lucifer> better landmark city is evansville indiana
19:08 <Lucifer> the quake was about 7 miles N by NW of that city
19:08 <Lucifer> USGS says the quake was felt 900 miles away
19:08 <Lucifer> can google maps give a straight line distance?  ;)
19:09 <spidey> well
19:09 <spidey> i looked at the map
19:09 <spidey> and estimated with their little line thingy that said it was 200mi per line thingy
19:09 <spidey> it was about 1 1/3 of the 200mi line thingy
19:10 <spidey> O_o
19:10 <wrtlprnft> #g 4/3 * 200mi in km
19:10 <spidey> could do better with a ruler, but i'm lazy
19:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
19:10 <wrtlprnft> #g 4/3 * 200 miles in km
19:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (4 / 3) * (200 miles) = 429.1584 kilometers
19:11 <Lucifer> oh fuck it
19:11 <Lucifer> The quake just before 4:37 a.m. was
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19:11 <Lucifer> that's pretty soon after it happened that you're saying something
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19:12 <Lucifer> times are reported in CST for this event, since it happened in CST
19:12 <Lucifer> now would be a good time for Dr Joe Tron to put in an appearance
19:13 <spidey> hey, i thought it was a tornado at first, we haven't really had any tremors since i've been alive :P
19:14 <spidey> btw
19:14 <spidey> lucifer, i changed my mind about going to vocational school
19:15 <spidey> the courses they have basically training to become geek squad, heh
19:15 <Lucifer> oh yeah?  what are you going to do instead?
19:15 <spidey> i'm looking at a community college close by
19:15 <spidey> oined #armagetron
19:15 <spidey> Lucifer that's pretty soon after it happened
19:16 <spidey> wtf
19:16 <spidey> http://www.jscc.edu/academics/departments/computer-information-systems/programs-of-study/software-developer-concentration.html
19:17 <Lucifer> that doesn't look too bad
19:17 <Lucifer> you'll walk through most of it
19:17 <spidey> yea
19:17 <spidey> i already know what courses i wanna do, haven't called them yet
19:19 <Lucifer> with any luck, by the time you're finished, India and China will be outsourcing all their programming to the US and the programming market will pick up again
19:20 <spidey> it's a 2 year college, i'll probably be willing to take some of their other computer courses by then
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19:21 <spidey> why do they still teach visual basics ;/
19:22 <Lucifer> don't know, but I'd be more than a tad concerned that the plan seems to be focused on windows
19:22 <spidey> well
19:22 <Lucifer> required core courses should be OS-neutral, I think
19:22 <spidey> i did find the site via microsoft IT acadamy thingy
19:22 <Lucifer> then there should be specializations available that make sense
19:23 <Lucifer> but the specializations should fall under "technical elective" courses
19:24 <spidey> i'm going to have to move in with my mom, to go their
19:24 <spidey> i don't like that, but oh well
19:25 <Lucifer> pack up a suitcase, hop a bus to Nashville or some other large city in Tennessee, and just go with it
19:25 <Lucifer> if you can put together $400 before you go, you can probably get yourself a room, then a job, then into college
19:26 <spidey> heh
19:26 <Lucifer> that's more or less what I did, except that I stayed with my sister for a few months rather than renting a room
19:26 <spidey> the $400 should just aswell be $2000
19:26 <Lucifer> you might be able to do it on less
19:26 <Lucifer> I went to Rochester, MN a few years back with just a car, a girlfriend, and some clothes
19:27 <Lucifer> got into a half-way house, and from there I got a job
19:27 <Lucifer> we didn't stick around for various reasons, but the next step was obvious: rent a room
19:27 <Lucifer> with my first paycheck, obviously
19:28 <Lucifer> it's not that hard, really, you just have to be willing to do some things, and even be willing to sleep in unusual places from time to time
19:28 <Lucifer> of course, if you can handle living with your mom for a year, you can use your position as a student to get you into a job (lots of people like to hire students)
19:28 <Lucifer> put some money away, then transfer, and do the move to a bigger school in a more orderly fashion
19:29 <spidey> oh, i can handle living with my mom
19:29 <spidey> i just don't like where she lives
19:30 <spidey> human resources sent me $159 for passing my GED O.o
19:34 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going to see if the grocery store will take back that bottle of wine now
19:36 <Lucifer> I'm not keeping a $10 bottle of wine that I can't drink!
19:40 <Lucifer> cool, they'll take it back
19:41 <Lucifer> now I need to figure out how to transport it without having it break open container laws, haha
19:42 <spidey> lmao
19:42 <spidey> put it in the trunk?
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20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8412 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy46: Fixed client always thinking he was right about it's name, it somehow didn't happen in 0.2.8, also, let's see if my name gets detected properly :P
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20:24 <noob7> what would be gramatically correct? "TV fucks your head up" or "TV fucks up your head" ?
20:33 <luke-jr> neither
20:34 <luke-jr> TV doesn't have any organs for sexual reproduction
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20:37 <K-Yo> noob7, I would more likely use the first
20:37 <K-Yo> or the second
20:38 <noob7> ok, I am not able to decide either :P
20:38 <Flex> i'm not american but I wanna vote for obama
20:38 <Flex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2g2axmnY8
20:38 <K-Yo> it depends on the time of the day and the weater
20:38 <K-Yo> weather*
20:38 <noob7> argh! I might have to toss a coin
20:39 <Flex> spidey, http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008qza6.html
20:44 <noob7> cant anybody help me decide? :(
20:45 <Lucifer> noob7: the second
20:45 <noob7> alright! thanks lucifer :)
20:46 <Lucifer> np, always glad to help a noob
20:46 <luke-jr> heh, the worms only need to convince one innocent program to vote with them
20:47 <noob7> the problem is, this thing will go above the TV in the livingroom. I dont spend much time there anyways, but I already know whichever I choose, I will always sit there and think its wrong :P
20:47 <Lucifer> just do a picture of a frying pan with eggs in it and a caption that says "your brain watching TV"
20:48 <noob7> its more of a message towards my girlfriend, she cant stop watching these #*!? reality type shitcoms
20:49 <noob7> but thats a nice idea as well :)
20:49 <Lucifer> hmmm, my wife became pregnant when she was 17.  Does that make me evil?
20:50 <noob7> no..?
20:51 <Lucifer> http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4680903&page=1
20:51 <Lucifer> that probably answers your unasked question
20:51 <noob7> your not a polygamist and not in a sect, so I dont see any connection besides the underage thing
20:52  * noob7 has a couple of friends that became parents when underage, most of them are "better parents" then the 30-something people with kids I know
20:53 <noob7> if you dont have a career yet, you can plan according to your kids. if you are already tied down with a job... well...
20:53 <Lucifer> they're using the underage thing to show institutionalized sexual abuse
20:53 <noob7> not saying they are happier or more fulfilled or whatever
20:53 <Lucifer> I'm a have to say it depends on too many things
20:53 <noob7> indeed, and I might be biased
20:53 <Lucifer> I know a few parents who are too old to play certain games with their kids because they waited so long
20:54 <Lucifer> so they watch me go out and play soccer with my kids
20:54 <Lucifer> otoh, I know a few parents who are my age who are just too fat and lazy to do the same things
20:55 <noob7> yeah, I know get what you are saying - some people are just not meant to become parents...
20:57 <Lucifer> I do like that my kids participate in job/career/education decisions, not just because it should help prepare them for the same decisions on their own, but also because I like to know what they think
20:58 <noob7> sounds like a healthy situation for both sides
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21:36 <Flex> monkeh
21:36 <Monkey_arma> yo yo yo
21:54 <luke-jr> hm
21:54 <luke-jr> they should lynch z-man :D
21:54 <z-man> haha
21:54 <z-man> I'LL KILL THEM ALL
21:54 <luke-jr> ☺
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21:54 <luke-jr> z-man: wanna start signups for the next game yet? :þ
21:55 <z-man> Well, it could still be that the current one will last over the weekend.
21:55 <z-man> Don't want the regular programs to get too fatalistic :)
21:56 <Lucifer> z-man: ping
21:56 <luke-jr> z-man: signups could be more than a few hours long :þ
21:56 <luke-jr> gives more people time to sign up
21:57 <z-man> they lasted over two days!
21:58 <luke-jr> well, I didn't see it until it started ☹
21:58 <luke-jr> how does it hurt to have signups last from now until whenever you decide to start it?
22:03 <Lucifer> well, I'm learning more about wine than I wanted to know, at least
22:03 <Lucifer> I traded the bad wine for a cabernet sauvignon
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22:03 <Lucifer> and I want to kick my own ass for saying that
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22:07 <z-man> luke-jr: it's traditional to first let the players of the current one make their post mortem.
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22:10 <Lucifer> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
22:10 <armabot> Lucifer: [22:05:50] <luke-jr> how does it hurt to have signups last from now until whenever you decide to start it?, [22:05:33] <luke-jr> well, I didn't see it until it started ☹, [22:04:16] <luke-jr> gives more people time to sign up, [22:04:11] <luke-jr> z-man: signups could be more than a few hours long :þ, [22:02:24] <luke-jr> z-man: wanna start signups for the next game yet? :þ, [22:02:13] (21 more messages)
22:11 <Lucifer> er, signups lasted several days
22:18 <Flex> you're both very mature
22:19 <Lucifer> who?
22:19  * Lucifer didn't understand that at all
22:19 <Flex> luke-jr and you :p
22:20 <Lucifer> ah.  Just for your information, I've never heard anybody over the age of about 21 use the word "mature" in that particular context, either sarcastic or not
22:21 <Monkey_arma> flex you are not mature either...
22:22 <Monkey_arma> nor me tho
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:22 <Flex> i'm not talking about myself.. what is he on about
22:22 <Monkey_arma> ah i thought you said immature lmao
22:22 <Monkey_arma> nvm
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :)
22:22 <Monkey_arma> :|
22:23 <Lackadaisical> anyone for fort?
22:23 <Monkey_arma> YES
22:23 <Monkey_arma> can we acutally organise a match tho
22:23 <Monkey_arma> none of this waffly crap
22:24 <Lucifer> you dont' like waffles?
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i didnt say that
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i said waffly crap
22:24 <Monkey_arma> i like most food
22:24 <Lucifer> you don't like waffles made with crap?
22:24 <Monkey_arma> s/most/all/
22:25 <Lucifer> do you eat people?
22:25 <Monkey_arma> are people food?
22:25 <Flex> wow he's a comedian too
22:25 <Lucifer> YES!  People *are* food.
22:25 <Monkey_arma> then yes
22:25  * Monkey_arma grabs flex's leg and munches on it
22:25 <Flex> that's not my leg Monkey_arma
22:26 <Lackadaisical> what is waffly crap?
22:26 <Lackadaisical> is cafe waffly crap? :(
22:26 <Flex> he's talking about boring ass games
22:26 <Lucifer> ass games are not boring!
22:27 <Monkey_arma> Lackadaisical, if sick of games  that turn to shite
22:27 <Monkey_arma> *im
22:28 <Monkey_arma> i want a good game from start to finish
22:28 <Flex> hmm, that's why you always spec when i play..
22:28 <Flex> thanks
22:28 <Lucifer> you need to familiarize yourself with periodic functions
22:28 <Monkey_arma> i think we need a community double this size to get that on a regular basis maybe
22:28 <Lucifer> life doesn't happen just at the peaks, it happens across the whole function
22:28 <Lucifer> that's why it's called continuous
22:29 <Lucifer> I think the size of the community only affects the amplitude, the frequency is determined by something else
22:29 <Lucifer> usually how many people I've eaten that day
22:29  * Monkey_arma hands out medication to #armagetron residents
22:29 <Flex> Lucifer, the past is past right?
22:30 <Flex> last time i checked
22:30 <Lucifer> sure, blue is blue, too, in case you were wondering
22:30 <Flex> no i was wondering if the sky was blue
22:30 <Lucifer> the sky is sky
22:30 <Monkey_arma> again xchat lets me down..you are now all in yellow...except lack who is in green
22:31 <Flex> what colour am i?
22:31 <Lucifer> why?  am I supposed to be holding a grudge against you or something?
22:31 <Monkey_arma> YELLOW
22:31 <Lucifer> you are now all in yellow...except lack  <---
22:31 <Flex> no, not me.. but you get what i'm going at though
22:31 <Monkey_arma> hey i dont choose the colours, xchat does
22:31 <Monkey_arma> thats  the point
22:31 <Monkey_arma> they should all be different
22:31 <Lucifer> are you just asking me so I can inappropriately validate something of which I'm completely unaware?
22:32 <Lucifer> no, they should all be the same, just not yellow ;)
22:32  * Lucifer has everybody in black
22:32 <Monkey_arma> wrong
22:32 <Lucifer> bold, in fact
22:32 <Flex> i can't get into something i dunno, but i've been wondering without actually having to read the forums for hours
22:32 <Monkey_arma> set your colours  then
22:32 <Lucifer> so it stands out from the text
22:32 <Lackadaisical> im green?
22:32 <Monkey_arma> yes lack you are emeral green
22:32 <Monkey_arma> *d
22:32 <Flex> Monkey_arma, what am i?
22:32 <Lucifer> I don't want to set my colors, because it always seems to pick bright colors for people's names, which are unreadable
22:33 <Lucifer> Flex: locked out of a server for being a known smeghead on that server?
22:33 <Monkey_arma> Flex, !
22:33 <Flex> Lucifer, urm no..
22:33 <Lackadaisical> nice
22:34 <Monkey_arma> maybe xchat has highly intelligent AI that groups people together with similar personalities
22:34 <Monkey_arma> oO
22:34 <Lucifer> you just insulted everyone here except lack
22:34 <Monkey_arma> correct
22:34 <Lucifer> is that a kicking offense?
22:35 <Flex> like i said, i don't know what's happened, but it doesn't seem to be much. - i'm talking about luke-jr's and your secret
22:35 <Flex> love
22:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, our ass games
22:35 <Flex> your both best buddies right, playing a trick on everyone
22:35 <Lucifer> I'm really his wife, and he's my bitch
22:35 <Flex> sounds nice
22:36 <Flex> can i get into that
22:36 <Lucifer> I wear a strap-on, he wears a strap-off
22:36 <Monkey_arma> you actually are scarily similar
22:36 <Flex> like butt buddies
22:38 <Flex> like us Monkey_arma
22:38 <Flex> £>
22:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that bug, is it the same as the one where your team always is named team blue between rounds?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> and who is epsy46?
22:40 <Monkey_arma> ok dudes match on
22:40 <Monkey_arma> pav haylin and ady want to play
22:40 <Monkey_arma> they dont have to leave early
22:41 <Monkey_arma> Flex,  yes butt buddies like us
22:41 <Flex> too late Monkey_arma.. too fucking late
22:41 <Flex> left me hanging for too long
22:41 <Monkey_arma> ok so we have me, pav, flex, lack, haylin, ady
22:41 <Monkey_arma> madmax, ping
22:41 <Monkey_arma> epsy, ping
22:42 <Monkey_arma> anyone else ping
22:42 <Monkey_arma> hoax ping
22:42 <Lucifer> #ping
22:42 <armabot> pong
22:42 <Flex> #ping
22:42 <armabot> pong
22:42 <Lucifer> #ding
22:42 <armabot> dong
22:42 <Flex> #ding
22:42 <armabot> dong
22:42 <Monkey_arma> StickyNoob, ping pong
22:42 <joda_bot> Monkey_arma: what for ?
22:42 <Monkey_arma> Lucifer,  you playing?
22:42 <Monkey_arma> we playing a match
22:42 <Lucifer> no, no cpu fan
22:42 <Monkey_arma> fort
22:42 <Flex> #bing
22:42 <Lucifer> I don't want to melt my cpu playing a game
22:42 <Monkey_arma> no fan lmao
22:42 <Flex> what happen to your fan?
22:43 <Lucifer> it broke?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> joda_bot, we play in a few minutes
22:43 <joda_bot> where ?
22:43 <Lucifer> it's a laptop, so I put it on a cooling rack and turned it to powersave
22:43 <Monkey_arma> not sure yet
22:43 <Monkey_arma> what server are we going to use?
22:43 <Monkey_arma> x ?
22:43 <Flex> sure
22:44 <Flex> are the noobs awake
22:44 <joda_bot> ok meet u there
22:44 <joda_bot> do have to play more than 2 matches ?
22:44 <Flex> 3 max
22:45 <epsy> wrtlprnft, quite possible that one is similar
22:45 <Monkey_arma> i think first to 3
22:45 <Monkey_arma> epsy  will play WONT U
22:45 -!- pavelo [n=pavelo@] has joined #armagetron
22:45 <epsy> hm?
22:45 <joda_bot> hi pavelo
22:45 <pavelo> hi
22:45  * epsy was having a tremulous game
22:45 <pavelo> wazzup
22:45 <Monkey_arma> yo yo
22:45  * epsy was quite surprised he could still easly kill turrets at the signe teeths of a dretch :)
22:45 <Monkey_arma> ok we got about 9 so far
22:46 <Monkey_arma> i  fancy a 6v6 or so
22:46 <joda_bot> lack and monkey are on fortress café should I got there ?
22:46 <epsy> do you have a serv?
22:46 <Monkey_arma> we do now you are here
22:46 <epsy> :)
22:46 <Monkey_arma> hehe
22:46 <Monkey_arma> we have many servers
22:46 <Monkey_arma> x will do
22:46 <Monkey_arma> ok so set it up and i recruit
22:47 <joda_bot> as long as I have to play on one sever (and not parallel on many ) I'm fine
22:47 <Monkey_arma> parallel?
22:47 <Monkey_arma> that will be the next april fools joke
22:47 <Monkey_arma> distributed tron or somit
22:48 <Flex> Monkey_arma,  you like hiphop?
22:48 <Monkey_arma> NO
22:48 <Flex> what you like then :p
22:48 <joda_bot> hophip
22:49  * epsy was gonna say it, thought it wasn't funny
22:49 <pavelo> actually i recall 2020 talking about P2P tron
22:49 <Monkey_arma> i like quite a few things..not hiphop or rap or cheesy chart crap
22:49 <Flex> p2p?
22:49 <Monkey_arma> yes but 2020 is a loon
22:49 <epsy> p3p?
22:49 <Flex> PSP tron..
22:49 <Flex> hmmm
22:49 <epsy> hah
22:49 <Flex> that would be decent
22:49 <pavelo> PMS tron
22:50 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
22:50 <epsy> JavaTRON
22:50 <epsy> hum, nothing
22:50 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy is server up?
22:50 <epsy> it's always up
22:50 <Monkey_arma> ok take 2....
22:50 <Flex> it's hard 24/7
22:50 <Monkey_arma> is server setup for fort?
22:50 <Flex> it's hard 24/7
22:50 <epsy> Monkey_arma, no
22:50 <epsy> gna do that
22:50 <Monkey_arma> oky dokey
22:51 <Monkey_arma> and no clowns allowed
22:51 <Flex> shitshit
22:51 <Flex> so much for my clown suit..
22:52 <epsy> your lederhosen you mean
22:52 <Monkey_arma> ok we got p4 also
22:52 <Monkey_arma> looking good
22:53 <epsy> canIHasXeon?
22:53 <Flex> message rico on msn epsy
22:53 <Flex> see if he wants to play
22:54 <epsy> he's not on
22:54 <Flex> he is
22:54 <Flex> offline
22:54 <epsy> yes
22:54 <Flex> he's online but offline
22:54 <epsy> still cant send him any fucking message
22:55 <Flex> don't you have offline messaging?
22:55 <Monkey_arma> monkey promoted to badmin..i like it
22:55 <epsy> i guess msn's blocking me from doing so
22:55 <epsy> Monkey_arma, did you see my access level?
22:55 -!- Lackadaisical [n=userfame@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["gone! quit! exit! etc."]
22:56 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-220-42.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit []
22:56 <Monkey_arma> no
22:56 <Monkey_arma> ok epsy time to kick
22:56 <Monkey_arma> and rename server maybe
22:56 <Monkey_arma> let them finish match
22:56 <Monkey_arma> ok done
22:57 <epsy> wrtlprnft, team red bug!
22:58 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
22:58 <epsy> you know, when you have two teams and they aren't blue and gold
22:59 -!- Lackadaisical [n=menno@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:59 <Monkey_arma> wb
22:59 <wrtlprnft> epsy: what bug?
22:59 <Lackadaisical> ty
22:59 <wrtlprnft> did you switch the server to sumo while a game was running?
22:59 <Monkey_arma> ok now i seen it epsy
22:59 <hoax> Monkey_arma, pong
22:59 <epsy> exactly, well, from* sumo
23:00 <epsy> Monkey_arma, *HINT* /players admin
23:00 <hoax> #tea
23:00 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): /dev/null/h4ck, DPM
23:00 <hoax> #x
23:00 <armabot> hoax: ¦×¦.Fortress.Server: Players (11/16): Blackbird (Hay-Lin@forums), CTxP4 (P4@crazy-tronners.com), dark, Lackadaisical (Lackadaisical@forums), Monkey (monkey@L_OP), pavelo (pavelo@forums), TrT~Dark-69, wrtlprnft |mbc| (wrtlprnft@forums), ~*SP*~joda.bot (joda.bot@forums), ¦×¦ Flex, ¦×¦epsy (epsy@x)
23:01 <Monkey_arma> ah hoax
23:01 <Monkey_arma> get arse in x server
23:01 <hoax> mmm inabit
23:02 <hoax> lack can win for a while
23:02 <hoax> hah even wrtlpwnds there
23:04 <wrtlprnft> i just kicked myself
23:04 <Monkey_arma> oO
23:04 <epsy> wrtlprnft, unbanned
23:05 <wrtlprnft> i'm tired
23:06 <Monkey_arma> hoax mooove u ass
23:07 <Monkey_arma> we need one more person as well..last call
23:07 <Monkey_arma> we "want"
23:07 <epsy> hay?
23:07 <Monkey_arma> hay what?
23:07 <epsy> hay-lin
23:07 <Monkey_arma> haylin is playing yes
23:07 <Monkey_arma> asked her ages ago
23:07 <epsy> then.. wrtlprnft ?
23:07 <epsy> or wrtlprnft_opera :P
23:08 <wrtlprnft> nah, i can't, sorry
23:08 <Monkey_arma> ok i get ady
23:08 <wrtlprnft> i kicked myself because of those Admin: please leave messages by the way
23:08 <epsy> not ady PLEASE
23:08 <wrtlprnft> haha
23:08 <wrtlprnft> maybe take Armagetron or GLTron?
23:10 <hoax> Monkey_arma, where u at
23:10 <Monkey_arma> getting ady
23:10 <Monkey_arma> from ctwf
23:10 <epsy> no no no no
23:10 <Monkey_arma> he wont come he has issues
23:11 <epsy> thx issues
23:11 <Monkey_arma> ah i take it you dont get on with him
23:11 <Monkey_arma> i mentioned x server and he changed his mind hmm
23:12 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/sc/osiris-200804182318.png
23:14 <Lackadaisical> isnt madmax around?
23:14  * luke-jr shoots pippijn
23:14 <pippijn> luke-jr: why?
23:14 <Monkey_arma> great my arma aint working..restart..back in 3
23:14 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:15 <pippijn> luke-jr: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/sc/osiris-200804182320.png
23:16 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc4-stkn1-0-0-cust208.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
23:18 -!- Raiden [n=x-javach@p5B20D098.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
23:18 <Monkey_arma> raiden
23:18 <Monkey_arma> match now
23:19 <Raiden> ok
23:19 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
23:20 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: you really have a lot of time to waste
23:20 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: no
23:20 <pippijn> I'm just really tired
23:20 <pippijn> and I can't sleep
23:34 <madmax> o_O DVD-D http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/04/18/europes.erasing.dvd.ds/
23:35 <madmax> Lackadaisical: can't play right now
23:37 <luke-jr> madmax: I recommend making a backup of all DVDs before watching them ☺
23:38  * luke-jr notes there is no contract when you purchase these that you are only licensing it for X hours
23:38 <luke-jr> therefore, your fair use rights to make a backup are still valid
23:38 <luke-jr> and your backup copy legal
23:44 <epsy> are core dump messages good examples for messages with a colored player name in it? :P
23:48  * epsy pings z-man
23:48 <z-man> I think so.
23:48 <z-man> Feel free to factor anything common you find out.
23:49 <epsy> the 'default' color is defined on clients or are networked?
23:50 <z-man> It's clientside, I think.
23:50 <z-man> (what do you mean by default color?)
23:51 <epsy> 0xRESETT
23:51 <z-man> Yes, that is clientside.
23:51 <epsy> currently, what do they do with it?
23:52 <z-man> Depends on the context. In console output, it is white.
23:54 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's defined on the client
23:55 <wrtlprnft> epsy: note that in menus (like the server browser) 0xffffff is white, while 0xRESETT is flashing red-white
23:56 <Flex> wrtlprnft, how about +1 for using an enemy hole?
23:57 <Flex> or giving them -1
23:57 <Flex> wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft wrtlprnft what you think
23:58 <epsy> hm, strange
23:58 <epsy>  /admin console_message something0xff00ffGcc 0xRESETThas been invited to join ¦×¦epsy
23:59 <epsy> produces fully puink text
23:59 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't

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