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Log from 2008-03-31:
--- Day changed Mon Mar 31 2008
00:00 <flex> you both suck
00:00 <flex> kkthxbye
00:00 <flex> seeing as how you tried to divert my main point, i said it again ;)
00:00 <epsy> you already said that 3 mins ago
00:00 <epsy> :-D
00:00 <epsy> as sticky would say...
00:01 <flex> sticky don't say that.. he says "hay"
00:01 <epsy> "winning an argument is like winning paralympic games, even when you win one, you're still a retard"
00:01 <flex> anyway, is fff still going?
00:01 <epsy> yes
00:02 <flex> i knew i was right
00:02 <flex> you owe me something
00:02 <epsy> here, some ballz
00:03 <hoax> erm, wrong about what
00:03 <flex> go ahead, i knew you would say that
00:03 <hoax> who won btw?
00:03 <flex> so i've preplanned it
00:03 <flex> it's still going on hoax
00:04 <flex> started at 19:30
00:04 <hoax> legits team vs lacks?
00:04 <flex> and the finalfinals hasn't even started
00:04 <hoax> oh
00:04 <hoax> rofl
00:04 <flex> in your face
00:04 <flex> punkarse
00:04 <epsy> hoax, we're at CT vs CT xD
00:04 <hoax> you didnt understand mine & inf point anyways
00:04 <hoax> so im not going to argue
00:04 <flex> it was you and epsys point you cock
00:05 <hoax> what was that then
00:05 <flex> it was you and epsy argueing over it
00:05 <hoax> over what
00:05 <flex> can't remember
00:05 <hoax> LOL
00:05 <epsy> LOL
00:05 <hoax> stfu.
00:05 <hoax> moron
00:05 <flex> it's your point
00:06 <flex> you don't even know who else was with you so i'm the moron?
00:06 <hoax> you dont even know what the arguement was about etc
00:06 <hoax> i thought ur on about the time a 4v4 takes compared to 8v8
00:06 <flex> i know what the arguement was about.. you're the one trying to put it to another "point"
00:07 <hoax> that duscussion was with u men & inf
00:07 <hoax> me*
00:07 <flex> no it was on irc with epsy
00:08 <flex> "i thought ur on about the time a 4v4 takes compared to 8v8" so it's different times when 4teams play compared to just watching 1 match?
00:08 <flex> same fucking thing, it's still taken this long
00:08 <flex> i'm not even considering yesterdays games too
00:09 <hoax> so it's different times when 4teams play compared to just watching 1 match?
00:09 <hoax> what the hell does that mean
00:09 <epsy> you forget there's like 2× more matches to play
00:09 <flex> you're saying your point was that it's longer in a 8v8 rather then a 4v4.. so how is it different to ladle and this
00:10 <hoax> no i never concluded that
00:10 <hoax> this was time ago anyways...
00:10 <epsy> currently if we take same number of matches we would have ended up at the point we are now at the same time
00:11 <hoax> ah ye
00:11 <hoax> cusco
00:13 <Monkey_arma> i also dont like the 10 rounds rule..it means the suicide tactic works for a start
00:13 <Monkey_arma> games end up at about 85 + points so just get rid of 10 rounds rule
00:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: keeps = is currently?
00:14 <flex> epsy, not to forget, alot of these games ended with 2:0
00:14 <epsy> but not all
00:14 <flex> most wasn't even close matches unlike ladle
00:15 <epsy> no..
00:15 <flex> there's no score page :/
00:15 <Monkey_arma> flex...DS vs oops was close, zteam vs wsek was close....and more
00:15 <Monkey_arma> rt1 and x
00:16 <flex> no they beat us 2:0
00:16 <Monkey_arma> epsy yes put the scores up
00:16 <Monkey_arma> oh ye they battered you i forgot
00:16 <Monkey_arma> :)
00:16 <epsy> oops vs armaholics too
00:16 <epsy> i don't even have them..
00:16 <flex> don't count 2-0's please..
00:17 <flex> when you talk "currently" are you guessing day3? we can't be at the same point at the same time.. the semi finals was never at this time on the ladle..
00:18 <Monkey_arma> bangkok vs X was a close match
00:18 <Monkey_arma> .......................not
00:18 <Lackadaisical> i have screenshots from our matches if anyone needs them for the scores
00:18 <hoax> heh whats that timer error legits on about
00:19 <flex> gmt shit probably
00:19 <Lackadaisical> it said '1 minute left'  and then suddenly ' 5minutes left'
00:19 <hoax> so whos responsible for that
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00:30 <epsy> Lackadaisical, /join #arma.fff
00:30 <epsy> nm, heh
00:30 <Lackadaisical> oh :(
00:31 <epsy> i thought you were already in
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00:41 <luke-jr> Lackadaisical: :o
00:41 <luke-jr> you're #15
00:41 <Lackadaisical> on what?
00:41 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/
00:42 <luke-jr> #rating 0:Lackadaisical@forums
00:42 <armabot> luke-jr: 0:Lackadaisical@forums is 15th with a rating of 1702-1757 (from 1704-1755)
00:43 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
00:43 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
00:43 <luke-jr> O.o
00:43 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
00:43 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
00:43 <ct|kyle> #rating kyle@crazy-tronners.com
00:43 <armabot> ct|kyle: I don't know anything about 'kyle@crazy-tronners.com'!
00:45 <epsy> #ratings 0:epsy@x
00:45  * epsy probably sucked hard lately
00:45 <epsy> #ratings 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
00:46  * luke-jr peers at armabot
00:46 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
00:46 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 58th with a rating of 1659-1699 (from 1664-1695)
00:46 <epsy> #rating 0:epsy@x
00:46 <armabot> epsy: 0:epsy@x is 1319th with a rating of 1524-1551 (from 1529-1546)
00:46 <epsy> #rating 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
00:46 <armabot> epsy: 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff is 1319th with a rating of 1524-1551 (from 1529-1546)
00:46 <epsy> hrhr
00:47 <ct|kyle> .aka ct_k13
00:47 <ct|kyle> .aka ct_ky13
00:47 <epsy> #aka 0:epsy@x
00:47 <armabot> epsy: ¿3832 |x|epsy2 |x|epsy 0:epsy@x 0:epsy@fff.armagetron.co.uk/staff
00:47 <ct|kyle> #aka ct_ky13
00:47 <armabot> ct|kyle: ¿17626 ~_k_~ ct_ky13
00:47 <epsy> heh
00:47 <ct|kyle> LOL
00:47 <epsy> i remember the screenshot
00:47 <ct|kyle> from alphabit night in wild west
00:47 <epsy> yea
00:50 <Monkey_arma> ady has turned it around for the armaholics
00:50 <Lackadaisical> are they still playing 3v4?
00:50 <epsy> no, 3v3
00:50 <epsy> woned seems to be around
00:51 <epsy> 90-62 for %
00:52 <epsy> 92 now ^^
00:52 <epsy> 1v1
00:52 <ct|kyle> 64 now^^
00:52 <epsy> it's like blue's waiting for timelimit
00:52 <Lackadaisical> is that the deciding match?
00:52 <epsy> yes
00:53 <ct|kyle> round 9
00:55 <epsy> Armaholics WIN!
00:56 <Monkey_arma> anyone for cafe?
00:56 <Monkey_arma> #tea
00:56 <armabot> Monkey_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:56 <z-man> I hope 2020's idea NEVER EVER gets reality
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00:57 <epsy> LOL!
00:57 <Monkey_arma> which one..he has lots of crazy one...
00:57 <Monkey_arma> if you mean 1 million people...yes
00:58 <z-man> the one million player thing
00:58 <Monkey_arma> heh ye
00:58 <Monkey_arma> 2020
00:58 <Monkey_arma> is
00:58 <Monkey_arma> a
00:58 <Monkey_arma> lilttle
00:58 <Monkey_arma> bit
00:58 <Monkey_arma> mad
00:58 <epsy> i really
00:58 <epsy> agree
00:58 <epsy> in what you are
00:58 <epsy> saying
00:58 <Monkey_arma> g
00:58 <Monkey_arma> o
00:58 <Monkey_arma> o
00:58 <Monkey_arma> d
00:58 <epsy> (
00:58 <Monkey_arma> concord does that style too
00:58 <epsy> well
00:58 <epsy> no
00:58 <epsy> )
00:59 <epsy> conconrd use an exageation of it lol
00:59 <epsy> he's just using newlines instead of spaces
00:59 <z-man> I'm no longer reading his posts at all.
00:59 <Monkey_arma> heh
00:59 <epsy> lol X_x
00:59 <Monkey_arma> i think it is better to have a smaller community than a large one that gets ruined anyway
01:03  * z-man tends to agree
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07:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: it's not happening right now
07:19 <luke-jr> ok
07:20 <luke-jr> it was probably just when my router fried last night then
07:23 <wrtlprnft> ok
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15:35 <cusco> bling bling
15:36 <eddiefantastic> blong blong
15:53 <cusco> wa sup
16:16 <pippijn> hi
16:29 <pippijn> what font do you guys use for your terminal?
16:44 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu.
16:44 <wrtlprnft> thanks for that question
16:46 <pippijn> thanks for the answer
16:46 <pippijn> →←↑↓ works great
16:46 <pippijn> I need to see what I type :-)
16:46 <pippijn> I am trying to write a durian module for the conway chained arrow notation
16:47 <pippijn> and I need →
16:47 <pippijn> later, I will need ↑↑ for knuth's up-arrow notation
16:49  * deja_vu grrs at wrtlprnft in a friendly way :P
16:52 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: ah, i read about that when trying to find out what G_64 was
16:55 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: → being non-commutative non-associative and not even sequentially applied makes implementing it a bit complicated
16:55 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: I don't even fully understand it, yet
16:56 <pippijn> as far as I can tell, it has to be implemented using recursion
16:56 <pippijn> but durian is a pattern matching language and I don't know what to match and what to reduce the pattern to in order to make it useful
16:58 <pippijn> by defining a → b = a ^ b, it is applied sequentially
16:58 <pippijn> and things like 2 → (3 → 2) are evaluated to 512 correctly
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16:58 <pippijn> but 2 → 3 → 2 is not
16:58 <pippijn> it becomes (2 → 3) → 2 = 64
16:58 <pippijn> whereas it should be 16
16:59 <wrtlprnft> abuse == or something?
16:59 <pippijn> Whereas chains of other infixed symbols (e.g. 3+4+5+6+7) can often be considered in fragments (e.g. (3+4)+5+(6+7)) without a change of meaning (see associativity), or at least can be evaluated step by step in a prescribed order, e.g. 2^{3^4} from right to left, that is not so with Conway's arrow.
16:59 <wrtlprnft> it's applied right to left
16:59 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: this is not c++
16:59 <pippijn> besides
16:59 <pippijn> == would have the same problem
16:59 <pippijn> 2 == 3 == 2
17:00 <pippijn> that's (2 == 3) == 2
17:00 <pippijn> which is wrong
17:00 <pippijn> for →
17:00 <wrtlprnft> no, 2 == (3 == 2)
17:00 <pippijn> oh, right
17:00 <pippijn> still wrong :-)
17:00 <pippijn> it has to be 2 == 3 == 2
17:00 <wrtlprnft> no, sorry, it's wrong
17:00 <pippijn> and it is not associative
17:00 <wrtlprnft> += is right to left
17:00 <wrtlprnft> == is left to right
17:00 <pippijn> 2 == 3 == 2
17:00 <pippijn> (2 == 3) == 2
17:01 <pippijn> hm
17:01 <pippijn> whatever
17:01 <pippijn> the thing is
17:01 <wrtlprnft> so → is an n-nary operator for any n?
17:01 <pippijn> it's a chained operator..
17:01 <pippijn> it may be called an n-ary operator
17:01 <pippijn> but then you need n-1 operator symbols
17:02 <pippijn> hmm
17:02 <pippijn> <?
17:02 <pippijn> no
17:02 <pippijn> in C++, there are no chained operators
17:02 <pippijn> in rona, there are
17:03 <pippijn> but I am not doing it in rona
17:03 <pippijn> rona chained operators are not compatible with the idea of conway's arrow, though
17:03 <wrtlprnft> you could have an operator + that returns some template that stores all the previous arguments
17:08 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: what is 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 2?
17:10 <wrtlprnft> no clue?
17:10 <pippijn> hm
17:11 <pippijn> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> (1 + 1)
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17:16  * pippijn has no idea :-\
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17:23 <wrtlprnft> A chain of length 4 or more has a value that is, generally, too large to comprehend.
17:23 <wrtlprnft> great.
17:24 <pippijn> yes
17:26 <hoax> haha i was telling monkey about the 1mil players shite, at least zmans not on it
17:26 <hoax> cusco u out in guilfd much?
17:35 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/09e786252989f8511647ba4b58e9dca2.txt
17:35 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: you mean something like that?
17:43 <pippijn> hmm
17:43 <pippijn> 3 -> 3 -> 2
17:43 <pippijn> = 3 -> (3 -> 2 -> 2) -> 1
17:44 <pippijn> = 3 -> (3 -> 2 -> 2)
17:44 <pippijn> = 3 -> (3 -> (3 -> 1 -> 2) -> 1)
17:44 <pippijn> = 3 -> (3 -> 3 -> 1)
17:44 <pippijn> is that right?
17:44 <pippijn> in that case, 3 -> 3 -> 2 would be equal to 3 ^ 3 ^ 3 and 3 ^ 27
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18:19 <cusco> hoax: ?!
18:19 <cusco> guilford?
18:20 <cusco> ah my IP... hehe
18:20 <cusco> dns hoax
18:20 <cusco> oops
18:25 <epsy> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/261316265/article.pl
18:26 <epsy> "According to Adobe, the alpha version lacks some key features that will be available in the final product"
18:26 <epsy> hahaha
18:27 <cusco> they are just interested in the bit that reads "joined linux foundation"
18:27 <epsy> :/
18:28 <hoax> heh yea i happened to see it, im in guilford sometimes :p
18:28 <cusco> probably they disabled the bits in theyr java program that did not execute properly on linux
18:29 <ct|kyle> epsy: FFF and Ladle have conflicting times now
18:29 <epsy> ladle 15 was never announced
18:30 <hoax> guildford spoons is like the best i been in lol
18:30 <ct|kyle> yes it was
18:30 <hoax> how do they clash? ladle is next weekend or smth?
18:30 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
18:31 <hoax> ladle 15b only just got announced right
18:31 <ct|kyle> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18343
18:31 <epsy> Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:26 am
18:32 <epsy> that's 12 hours after we actually announced that finals will be delayed one week away :)
18:32 <hoax> too little notice since ladle is always the first sunday
18:32 <hoax> better make it the next month? or just change the date
18:32 <ct|kyle> last time they gave way too much notice
18:32 <epsy> i knew march was a bad month to start FFF
18:35 <ct|kyle> hopefully they can delay it to following CT's FFF win :D
18:36 <epsy> *armaholics
18:36 <epsy> :-DDDD
18:36 <ct|kyle> same diff
18:36 <hoax> so final is armahol vs random team 1 ?
18:36 <epsy> yep
18:36 <ct|kyle> yes
18:36 <hoax> did dorka play in the end or not
18:36 <epsy> well, no :P
18:36 <hoax> wow they won with your_mom ?
18:36 <hoax> xD
18:36 <epsy> ...
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18:37 <ct|kyle> my mom pwns
18:37 <epsy> we said we've delayed finals to next weel
18:37 <epsy> week
18:37 <hoax> oh shit yea
18:37 <hoax> LOL!
18:37 <epsy> Göacs -
18:37 <epsy> -.-
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18:38 <hoax> i gots confuzzled ;/
18:39 <ct|kyle> is there anything special i have to do to set up an authentication server (besides get the authentication branch and compile it)
18:40 <wrtlprnft> argh!
18:40 <wrtlprnft> don't get the authentication branch!
18:40 <ct|kyle> why not
18:40 <epsy> zmanuel, mind if we use my server(well, wrtl's) for the FFF finals instead of yours?
18:40 <wrtlprnft> it's been merged into 0.2.8 and is old
18:40 <ct|kyle> ok
18:40 <wrtlprnft> ./configure --enable-armathentication
18:40 <epsy> wow, it still exists? :D
18:41 <ct|kyle> ok
18:41 <zmanuel> epsy: no, of course not
18:41 <wrtlprnft> install zthread if you want auth to be instant
18:41 <epsy> zmanuel, ok
18:41 <wrtlprnft> and GLOBAL_ID 1
18:41 <wrtlprnft> *zthreads
18:41 <epsy> btw, i never got to successfully run the zthread test program
18:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: svn branches are eternal AFAIK
18:42 <epsy> oh, now i see how come noone ever likes to do branching :þ
18:43 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that you don't usually merge into a branch as it's expensive
18:43 <wrtlprnft> so -auth doesn't profit from bugfixes in 0.2.8
18:44 <ct|kyle> #svn
18:44 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
18:45 <epsy> #vzr
18:45 <epsy> #bzr
18:45  * epsy slaps armabot 
18:46 <epsy> #alias add bzr echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (bzr >= 1.0)
18:46 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <wrtlprnft> co?
18:46 <wrtlprnft> i thought it was branch
18:46 <epsy> you can do checkouts too
18:46 <epsy> now, what is our policy regarding that, i don't know
18:47 <wrtlprnft> what's the diff?
18:47 <epsy> with checkouts revision numbers are parallel
18:48 <epsy> and it just works like svn or any other non-distributed VCS
18:48 <epsy> when you ci it effectively commits to the central branch, not to your own copy
18:48 <wrtlprnft> sounds convienient
18:49 <ct|kyle> so is that want i need to do?
18:49 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: just get a 0.2.8 checkout via svn or bzr
18:50 <wrtlprnft> and compile with --enable-armathentication
18:50 <ct|kyle> ok
18:50 <wrtlprnft> and read config/settings_authentication.cfg
18:50 <ct|kyle> ok
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20:09 <epsy> shouldn't ZONE_ALPHA_TOGGLE be a tConfItem?
20:15 <wrtlprnft> epsy: well, usually tConfItems have a corresponding menu item
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21:25 <epsy> what the...
21:25 <epsy> LOL
21:25 <epsy> nice fake serv :D
21:25 <joda_bot> epsy: ?
21:26 <epsy> nothin
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21:57 <K-Yo> why are pings negative on café? new feature?
21:58 <wrtlprnft> new lag prevention
22:00 <hoax> what's arma SVN
22:01 <hoax> a mp id install cba to get a new version tho
22:01 <hoax> map*
22:01 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: z-man managed to enable time traveling
22:11 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: ;-)
22:11 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=46583#46583
22:19 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8394 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ArmagetronAd.cbp: Added tColor.cpp (I thought I already did that)
22:20 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: Do u know who hosts the styball server right now ?
22:20 <joda_bot> is ed doing that ?
22:21 <wrtlprnft> i think sol is
22:21 <wrtlprnft> /join #crazy-tronners
22:21 <joda_bot> ok
22:21 <ct|kyle> joda_bot: sol is
22:21 <joda_bot> are there also some ppl who I can ask about the code changes in the crazy tronners hacktron stuff ?
22:22 <joda_bot> because I might need some infos since I'll have to merge the messy parts of ePlayer and eTeam soon ;)
22:22 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic and voodoo are there regularily
22:25 <wrtlprnft> http://chaosradio.ccc.de/media/video/tron.mp4
22:25 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=195793#195793 <-- there's links to hacktron sources if you want them
22:26 <ct|kyle> http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Crazy_Tronners_Wiki <--- docs :D
22:27 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: he's already got them
22:27 <wrtlprnft> he's trying to merge in the latest changes in 0.2.8 and then make a bzr branch to facilitate further merging
22:27 <joda_bot> eddiefantastic: how out dated is the file armahacktron.zip I got from ... (got the link somewhere on the main crazytronners site)
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22:28 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: what svn rev?
22:28 <eddiefantastic> not sure. maybe some bugfixes.
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22:28 <ct|kyle> i think it is before respawn command
22:29 <joda_bot> eddiefantastic: one important thing I noticed is that you (?) implemented the different loggin mechanism and I'm not sure if u really need it with authentification in the server / client
22:29 <Compn> ok i'm at beta.armagetronad.net but cant find anything about this map patch build for bugfarm cubed ...
22:29 <eddiefantastic> the latest one certainly has changes
22:29 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/cube
22:29 <joda_bot> because most of the other information is also copied to ladderlog of z-man
22:29 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: yes, that is not needed now
22:29 <Compn> thx wrtl
22:30 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: I like the cube server btw, nice work :)
22:30 <wrtlprnft> it'll just make me more addicted to tron
22:31 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: there's a lot of features that are now in 0.2.8 branch as well
22:31 <wrtlprnft> some in a slightly different way
22:31 <eddiefantastic> GAME_TIME log messages, WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT, CYCLE_MAX_SPEED, etc
22:31 <joda_bot> eddiefantastic: how much work is it for u to adopt the scripts to use ladderlog (without IP address logged out etc. ?)
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22:31 <wrtlprnft> and it's CYCLE_SPEED_MAX!
22:31 <joda_bot> ah yes, that's a funny thing
22:32 <joda_bot> the CYCLE_SPEED_MAX ;)
22:32 <wrtlprnft> well, CYCLE_SPEED_MIN existed for ages
22:32 <joda_bot> because CT comment says maximum speed in the comment and in the sty branch the comment is "minimum"
22:32 <wrtlprnft> ever tried a server with CYCLE_SPEED_MIN == CYCLE_SPEED == CYCLE_SPEED_MAX?
22:32 <joda_bot> and the handling seems strange and different
22:32 <joda_bot> in the styball branch
22:33 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: most of the heavy work on hacktron was done by voodoo
22:33 <eddiefantastic> wrtl here helped a lot
22:33 <wrtlprnft> i mostly tried to answer questions
22:33 <eddiefantastic> I can hack a few log messages is all
22:33 <wrtlprnft> SPAWN_ZONE has got some stuff from me, that's mostly it
22:34 <joda_bot> ok, let's narrow my question regarding max speed down, should the initial value be 0 or 10000
22:34 <joda_bot> I guess styball branch uses 0 and Hacktron has a value of 10000 but I might err and it's the otherway around
22:34 <joda_bot> pretty strange to me ;)
22:35 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: the reason we created a new log file was because a lot of the new things we added had no relation to the ladder, so they didn't belong there
22:35 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: 0.2.8 uses 0, so i suggest you use that
22:36 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: hm ok ... I'll have a look at those but not tonight
22:36 <joda_bot> good to know there are enough ppl I can ask questions ;)
22:37 <Compn> bleh the fonts were messed up in cubed ;\
22:37 <joda_bot> I'll try to collect some short diffs if I'm not sure what to do, and we can discuss that then
22:37 <eddiefantastic> joda_bot: good luck with it. There's a lot of mess in there ;)
22:37 <wrtlprnft> Compn: it's still buggy
22:38 <eddiefantastic> I'll help where I can. I at least know what most of the code does and why it is there.
22:39 <joda_bot> eddiefantastic: thx
22:39 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: the cube patch does not allow bridges does it ?
22:39 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: who coded all those changes ?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> mostly z-man, of course. He's the only guy who knows the engine
22:40 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: have a look at the patch file…
22:41 <eddiefantastic> I liked the wheelies best
22:41 <joda_bot> oh damn, he coded a shadow casting engine ?
22:42 <eddiefantastic> bye for now
22:42 <joda_bot> cu eddiefantastic
22:42 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:42 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
22:45 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: it's not past 00:00 ... shame on u :-P
22:45 <joda_bot> nice one
22:47  * joda_bot downloads the cube windows installer --- brave joda
22:49 <wrtlprnft> joda_bot: well, in some parts of the world it is
22:49  * wrtlprnft is really asleep now
22:49 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/up/complex.durian.in
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22:51 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/txt/3b569b492b247aea004e9647789fc4df.txt <- this is the result of that program
23:00 <joda_bot> wrtlprnft: Lucifer_bed: epsy: I tested the windows cubed version but it (perhaps intentionally) crashes when entering the cube server ;) ... long live to linux :-P
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23:45 <ender> wrtl you there?!?
23:45 <ender> anyone?
23:45 <Monkey_arma> they are in the test server
23:46 <ender> ah i know... my dl isnt working and im dieing to try it :O
23:46 <ender> it tries to log into the server then crashes AH!
23:52 <Monkey_arma> dl?
23:52 <Monkey_arma> download ? of waht?
23:55 <ender> the beta
23:55 <Monkey_arma> of.....
23:55 <ender> the 3d arma
23:55 <ender> cube
23:55 <Monkey_arma> ah ok now you are talking..they are in the cube server testing
23:55 <ender> yeps
23:56 <Monkey_arma> what is the difference with normal arma and cube?
23:56 <ender> it has different levels
23:56 <ender> it is really a 3d arma :D
23:56 <ender> beta.armagetronad.net/cube
23:56 <Monkey_arma> is the current arma not 3d?
23:56  * Monkey_arma thought it was
23:57 <ender> well not so much
23:57 <ender> i mean this version allows elevation changes
23:57 <Monkey_arma> oh no you mean like x-axis, y-axis z-axis?
23:57 <ender> yeh
23:57  * Monkey_arma quits tron for ever
23:58 <ender> hahahaha
23:58 <Monkey_arma> i thought crazy tronners was bad enough
23:58 <ender> yeh im curious but i cant check it out
23:58 <ender> frustrated
23:59 <Monkey_arma> i hope this doesnt ruin tron
23:59 <Monkey_arma> imagine the issue with glances in true 3d omg
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