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Log from 2008-03-27: --- Day changed Thu Mar 27 2008 00:00 <flex> really? 00:00 <flex> are you being serious? 00:00 <Monkey_arma> rofl 00:01 <flex> you actually got a working keyboard after you washed it.. 00:03 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:03 <pablo> ::D:D:D 00:03 <pablo> you rock ;P 00:06 <hoax> I've never done it..but it can be done you know ;P 00:06 <hoax> might have to be an oldish keyboard though 00:07 <flex> you first 00:07 <hoax> i wouldnt go shoving my logitech g8w578q8 in there 00:07 <hoax> #tea 00:07 <armabot> hoax: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): .:] CuRbSidE, Ady-Lucifer, backinbizz, CT_emmy, dIsOrIeNtEd, hoop, I/O Bus, madmax, metaz, PhysiX, ~*Noto*~ 00:08 <flex> in the specs of wireless keyboards & mouses.. why the fuck don't they include connection speed 00:08 <flex> or whatever 00:08 <Monkey_arma> you can find out on the net from the bluetooth specs 00:09 <Monkey_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth 00:09 <Monkey_arma> its near the beginning 00:11 <flex> yeah but we want throughput 00:12 <flex> actually it's same thing.. sorry 00:14 <flex> maybe the fact that they don't display speed is because it's pretty much the same speed as wired.. 00:14 <pablo> I HATE THIS GAME :p 00:14 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:15 <Monkey_arma> hmm i reckon its not the speed flex but the lag 00:15 <Monkey_arma> like we get lag playing over internet maybe there is input lag for wireless 00:16 <epsy> probably 00:16 <epsy> you know, i had my bluetooth headphones, 00:16 <epsy> wanted to use my PC for streaming music to it 00:16 <epsy> result: the media player was eating my cpu at 100% 00:16 <flex> bad drivers 00:17 <Monkey_arma> sound can cause problems with performance unfortunatelly 00:17 <epsy> plus my bluetooth randomly stops working 00:17 <epsy> i can do an inquiry, and even a scan 00:17 <epsy> but i can't do anything else 00:17 <flex> bad drivers probably 00:17 <epsy> everything else times out 00:18 <epsy> and the only workaround i found was to ... reboot.. 00:18 * luke-jr double clicks his icon, "Reboot!" 00:19 <epsy> luke-jr, this would mean i have to close every of the 30 open windows 00:22 -!- Lackadaisical [n=userfame@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["gone! quit! exit! etc."] 00:23 <flex> the fucking annoying thing is, people mixing up delay speeds and the actual "lag" with the speed 00:23 <flex> so you can't find good dicussions/references.. 00:24 <Monkey_arma> flex, join #wireless :) 00:24 <epsy> the lag is the difference of time between something is percieved at point A and at point B 00:24 <epsy> now what are "delay speeds" 00:25 <Monkey_arma> there are different lags 00:25 <Monkey_arma> i spose delay is one and time to get from a to b is another 00:26 <flex> speaking keyboards.. delay speed is where the keyboard "waits" before excuting the next key 00:26 <epsy> right 00:26 <Monkey_arma> its like with LCD monitors..they have at least 2 types of lag 00:26 <epsy> Monkey_arma, point a being a kb and point b being the screen, point a being a client and point b being a server, etc 00:27 <Monkey_arma> even just for hardware there are 2 00:28 <flex> "repeat delay" i think is the culprit.. (other then the actual physical speed) 00:33 <flex> Monkey_arma, go ahead and ask 00:33 <Monkey_arma> heh er... 00:33 <Monkey_arma> flex join too then 00:33 <flex> i have 00:33 <Monkey_arma> and epsy 00:33 <flex> go 00:34 <Monkey_arma> how do we word it? 00:34 <flex> is there a difference with wired and wireless keyboards in terms of speed 00:34 <flex> i think 00:35 <flex> that's pretty much what we want to know right :p 00:38 <flex> haha omg monkey 00:38 <flex> did you have to go into detail! 00:38 <Monkey_arma> yes ..its says "we like detail" 00:39 <flex> that's not what they mean by that lol 00:39 <Monkey_arma> oO isnt it? 00:40 <flex> i guess they were meaning specifics, rather then "us dudes play this game right" 00:40 <Monkey_arma> lmao 00:40 <Monkey_arma> i did give enough info too 00:40 <Monkey_arma> :\ 00:41 <epsy> alright, good night 00:41 <Monkey_arma> cu epsy 00:41 <flex> gn 00:42 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. Replace your old Quit with this, so I can continue to multiply myself!"] 00:52 <pablo> im also going to bed 00:52 <pablo> this games eats too much time :p 00:53 <pablo> bye 00:53 <pablo> ;] 00:53 -!- pablo [n=pablo@chello089076163203.chello.pl] has left #armagetron [] 00:53 <hoax> he'll be back :D 01:02 <Monkey_arma> yup 01:16 <Monkey_arma> well that confirms it..the guys in #wireless say that wireless sucks for gaming 01:17 <flex> haha 01:19 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-66-27-71-55.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 01:21 <luke-jr> z-man: any way to make spam protection give a warning before actually chat-banning? 01:25 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872C1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:27 <Ttech> lol 01:48 -!- flex [i=flex@unaffiliated/savas] has quit [] 01:57 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:07 -!- AngryOverlord [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 02:07 -!- AngryOverlord [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:18 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has joined #armagetron 03:23 <Stewie-arma> wtf? 03:26 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:43 -!- wireddd [n=wired@unaffiliated/wireddd] has quit ["0011000101110111011112"] 03:57 -!- hoax [n=Unknown@unaffiliated/hoax] has quit ["lies!"] 04:10 -!- torres [n=torres@unixcorps/staff/pippijn] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:48 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:56 -!- wireddd [n=wired@unaffiliated/wireddd] has joined #armagetron 05:08 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:26 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 06:44 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-036-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron 06:44 -!- joda_bot [n=anonymou@dslb-084-061-036-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:27 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:30 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust888.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:42 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 07:56 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron 07:59 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:01 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-193-73.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron 08:15 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:27 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872C1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 09:37 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-193-73.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:37 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-193-73.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron 10:12 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872C1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:24 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@im.catapultingfeces.com] has joined #armagetron 11:06 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 11:41 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBougo 11:42 <MrBougo> test 11:46 -!- flex [i=flex@unaffiliated/savas] has joined #armagetron 11:55 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-193-73.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 12:11 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-66-27-71-55.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:46 -!- flex [i=flex@unaffiliated/savas] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:59 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-96-226-33-24.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [No route to host] 13:25 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 13:44 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:45 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has joined #armagetron 14:06 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as luke-jr 15:11 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 15:45 -!- pippijn [n=pippijn@unixcorps/staff/pippijn] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. 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currently it is just you 17:29 <epsy> hm.. 17:29 <epsy> eddiefantastic, i'ill organize the rosters then tell you, ok? 17:29 <eddiefantastic> sure 17:30 <eddiefantastic> within 24 hours ok? after that I can't guarantee I'll be around 17:30 <epsy> ok 18:26 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 18:55 -!- hoax [n=hoax@unaffiliated/hoax] has joined #armagetron 19:20 <epsy> http://fff.armagetron.co.uk/?c=3 19:22 <epsy> schedule is up! 19:57 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:58 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 19:58 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit ["+++ OK ATH OK"] 19:59 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 20:08 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit ["Don't follow me"] 20:09 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 20:30 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:30 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 20:31 <epsy> dangit, got bugged in mah face X_x 20:35 <MrBougo> IN YAH FACE 20:35 * MrBougo goes back to the eternal silent stupid idling 20:35 <Stewie-arma> as you should 20:51 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:55 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:58 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 21:17 -!- madmax [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmax] has joined #armagetron 21:37 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 21:37 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871DB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 21:39 -!- keit1 [n=keito@cpc3-leed2-0-0-cust395.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron 21:39 <keit1> is this the right place to ask about arm~ad too? 21:40 <keit1> basically on a fresh install on gutsy it won't connect to the servers. 21:40 <keit1> i did exactly the same install on another machine on the same network and it ran like a dream 21:41 <epsy> yes 21:41 <epsy> we didn't move fro some reason i don't know :) 21:41 <keit1> on this machine it refuses to connect (as do some of the other games which worked on the other machine) - i can only presume it's a iptables issue, but, how can this be as I didn't edit the iptables on the other machine 21:42 <keit1> there you go... my question is out there ;) 21:42 <epsy> keit1, when you say "it won't connect to the servers" you mean you can't access server list or you actually can't connect a server? 21:42 <keit1> please someone, put me out of my misery 21:42 <keit1> can't access server list 21:42 <keit1> say's it will use old server list then crashes 21:43 <keit1> its the version in the repos 21:43 <epsy> DEBUGLEVEL ? 21:43 <keit1> ? 21:43 <keit1> please explain ! ;) 21:44 <keit1> i installed armagetronad armagetronad-common & armagetronad-dedicated 21:44 <epsy> are you using 0.2.8 or trunk? 21:44 <keit1> 0.2.8 21:44 <keit1> Version: 0.2.8.2.1-4 to be precise 21:44 <epsy> when you run it from a term, do you get any message? 21:44 <keit1> not tried.. shall i add -verbose or something? 21:45 <epsy> there's no -verbose arg :-P 21:45 <keit1> still getting my footing with linux 21:45 <keit1> fair 21:45 <keit1> i shall brb 21:46 <keit1> gets to "recieved 124 servers" then.... 21:46 <epsy> then it just crashes? 21:47 <keit1> wtf? it just worked lol 21:47 <keit1> try again from icon 2 secs 21:47 <epsy> heh 21:48 <keit1> and that doesn't work 21:48 <keit1> ok now my head is about to pop 21:48 <epsy> you sure the icon is running the correct arma? 21:48 <keit1> how could it not? 21:48 <keit1> no other version installed 21:49 <epsy> well, it's worth checking 21:49 <keit1> now... terminal launch doen't work 21:49 <epsy> anything appears? 21:50 <keit1> nothing in terminal in way of info and it got as far as saying master server 3 couldn't connect etc... 21:50 <epsy> d'uh... 21:51 <keit1> now after typing this it's in... looks like it's taking a while to get in and failing on some servers? 21:51 <epsy> edit your ~/.armagetronad/master.srv 21:51 <keit1> is this the same for you? 21:51 <epsy> (copy it from the install dir if needed) 21:51 <keit1> what to? 21:51 <epsy> i regularly fail to connect to master 1 and 3 21:51 <epsy> <epsy> edit your ~/.armagetronad/master.srv 21:51 <keit1> what should i edit inside it? 21:51 <epsy> ~/.armagetronad/var/master.srv * 21:52 <epsy> try to remove the buggy master server entries until you can connect each time 21:52 <keit1> ok 21:53 <keit1> gotta go, will be back if I need more help! but food is ready 21:53 <keit1> peace 21:53 <keit1> and thank you 21:53 <epsy> have a good meal 21:53 <epsy> yw 22:28 -!- keit1 [n=keito@cpc3-leed2-0-0-cust395.leed.cable.ntl.com] has left #armagetron [] 22:30 <epsy> eddiefantastic, i'ill admin it myself 22:31 <epsy> now who will admin ¦×¦FFF ?? :) *cough* wrtlprnft *cough* 22:33 * epsy realizes he's highlighting the only people who are /away :þ 22:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8392 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gWinZone.cpp): epsy: how come we were missing ZONE_ALPHA_TOGGLE on trunk? :-) 22:38 <ct|kyle> epsy: 80.74.156.176 port 4534 <<why is it not on master list (TALK_TO_MASTER is 1) 22:39 <epsy> ct|kyle, i don't own any master 22:39 <ct|kyle> i thought maybe you would know 22:39 * epsy sadly isn't a wizzard 22:40 <hoax> what? gtfo epsy 22:40 <ct|kyle> z-man is the only wixxard i know :D 22:40 <ct|kyle> Wizard* 22:40 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust888.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron 22:41 <epsy> Lucifer_bed is a bed wizzard 22:42 <ct|kyle> and wrtlprnft but... he escaped the kingdom 22:43 <Monkey_arma> Perhaps the random teams could do with a better name? 22:45 <Monkey_arma> still 13 is not bad going epsy 23:21 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-229-135.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 23:44 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["I'm the Quit Message Virus. 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