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Log from 2008-03-21:
--- Day changed Fri Mar 21 2008
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06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:09] <saillinux> apeiron: hmm I don't seem to able to spot the W3C log file format parser u just mentioned... do you mean the apache log parser modules on cpan?
06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:36] <apeiron> perlbot, u
06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:37] <perlbot> 'u' is a letter of the alphabet that comes before 'v' and which can make a variety of sounds - likely, however, if I am asked about it, you're wanting me to point out how GALACTICALLY STUPID using 'u' instead of 'you' will appear.  You can wean yourself of this habit by silently pronouncing it to yourself as 'oo' when you are typing it, and then you will realize how stupid you look.
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07:12 <mkzelda> The letter "U" has been pronounced YOU as long as I've known.
07:12 <mkzelda> not 'oo'
07:12 <mkzelda> but maybe im missing the joke
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07:14 <mkzelda> Are we supposed to pretend its 'oo' so that we can make fun of the guy that saved 2 keystrokes because he understands homophones
07:32 <MrBougo> i'm going to time out this time, instead of disconnecting
07:32 <MrBougo> bai, have a nice day
07:32  * MrBougo disconnects now
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10:13 <eddiefantastic> Ah, I see :)/away
10:13 <eddiefantastic> oops
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12:18 <luke-jr_> mental note for whomever: libcurl with SSL support is not GPL-compatible
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12:32 <wrtlprnft> …
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15:50 <mkzelda> what bout if you build w/ 'bindist'
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17:07 <garbagegarbage> bah
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17:24 <MrBougo> lol
17:24 <MrBougo> sup garbagegarbage
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17:39 <wrtlprnft> wow
17:39 <wrtlprnft> how do you make a screen recording that crappy?
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19:25 <K-Yo> is it normal that I have to "make run" as root if I use latest svn build?
19:27 <luke-jr> K-Yo: you shouldn't do anything Arma-controlled as root
19:27 <luke-jr> that's just asking for Lucifer to pwn your system
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19:33 <K-Yo> Lucifer, please do not pwn my system
19:34 <K-Yo> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in tron/gArmagetron.cpp:689 :
19:34 <K-Yo>         var directory not writable or does not exist. It should reside inside your user data directory and should have been created automatically on first start, but something must have gone wrong. Your user data directory is subdirectory named .armagetronad in your home directory.
19:34 <K-Yo> make: *** [run] Erreur 1
19:34 <K-Yo> that is what I get if I "make run" if I "sudo make run" it works
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19:40 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: that happens if you did make run as root the first time
19:41 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: sudo chown -r `whoami` var
19:45 <luke-jr> chown -R `whoami` .
19:46 <luke-jr> might be better
19:46 <luke-jr> having root-owned object files won't help him much either
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19:52 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~/arma$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var
19:52 <K-Yo> sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
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19:54 <epsy> wtf are you doing...
19:56 <K-Yo> what wrtlprnft and luke-jr told me to
19:56 <K-Yo> now I can't run su :(
19:56 <K-Yo> anymore
19:56 <luke-jr> ………..
19:56  * luke-jr smacks K-Yo
19:57 <luke-jr> you just b0rked your system
19:57 <K-Yo> how much ?
19:57 <luke-jr> quite a bit
19:57 <K-Yo> how big is that quite?
19:57 <K-Yo> that bit
19:57 <luke-jr> please paste the lines before the ones you did
19:57 <luke-jr> the first sudo chown stuff
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami`
19:58 <K-Yo> [sudo] password for k-yo:
19:58 <K-Yo> chown: opérande manquante après `k-yo'
19:58 <K-Yo> Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « chown --help ».
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -r `whoami` var
19:58 <K-Yo> chown: option invalide -- r
19:58 <K-Yo> Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « chown --help ».
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var
19:58 <K-Yo> chown: ne peut accéder `var': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` /var
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ cd arma
19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~/arma$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var
19:58 <luke-jr> yeah
19:58 <K-Yo> sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
19:58 <luke-jr> you f'd it up
19:58 <luke-jr> [14:02:00] <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` /var
19:58 <K-Yo> T.T
19:58 <luke-jr> = suicide
19:58 <K-Yo> that much?
19:59 <luke-jr> what OS?
19:59 <K-Yo> ubuntu
19:59 <luke-jr> sign
19:59 <luke-jr> sigh*
19:59 <luke-jr> ok
20:00 <luke-jr> anyone else here have ubuntu?
20:00 <luke-jr> K-Yo: uh, do you happen to have a root shell open btw?
20:00 <K-Yo> nope
20:00 <K-Yo> I never let root shell open
20:01 <K-Yo> I jsut type sudo every line
20:01 <luke-jr> do you have a root pass?
20:01 <K-Yo> (I need)
20:01 <K-Yo> yep
20:01 <luke-jr> ok
20:01 <luke-jr> use su
20:01 <K-Yo> it can't
20:02 <K-Yo> when I type my pass it says error
20:02 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ su
20:02 <K-Yo> Mot de passe :
20:02 <K-Yo> su : Échec d'authentification
20:02 <K-Yo> Désolé.
20:02 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$
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20:05 <luke-jr> poor K-Yo
20:05 <K-Yo> I think I'm sudo if I run the recovery no?
20:06 <luke-jr> what?
20:06 <luke-jr> i think you need to boot a livecd now
20:06 <K-Yo> oh
20:06 <luke-jr> ideally an Ubuntu one
20:06 <K-Yo> I have one in my player
20:06 <luke-jr> ok
20:06 <K-Yo> but I have to push the tray
20:06 <luke-jr> come back once you're on the livecd then I gues
20:06 <K-Yo> and then press restart
20:06 <K-Yo> eeer
20:07 <K-Yo> can I launch xchat from live cd?
20:11 <wrtlprnft> err, sorry for not telling you to not, in any case, ever, put a / in front of var
20:11 <wrtlprnft> now, what the hell is sudo doing in /var?
20:12 <K-Yo> is it me you're asking to? :S
20:13 <wrtlprnft> anyone responsible for the mess that calls itself ubuntu
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20:15 <K-Yo> is anything in the dir /var/backups interesting?
20:16 <K-Yo> such as group.bak  or  passwd.bak
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20:46 <K-Yo> luke-jr, wrtlprnft, I solved my problem ;)
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20:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: sudo uses files in /var
20:47 <luke-jr> sudo also freaks out if anything is out of the norm
20:48 <luke-jr> it assumes someone is trying to hack the system
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21:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: mind if I permanently set BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW 0 on x sumo? it's really annoying.
21:51 <epsy> er yes
21:52 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i mean, i don't mind
21:54 <wrtlprnft> well, someone having a whity-yellowish color if they're on team blue is quite buggy
21:54 <wrtlprnft> nvm
21:55 <wrtlprnft> epsy: and i still don't understand why you don't just completely filter dark colors on your client
21:55 <wrtlprnft> turn them into the closest non-dark color or something
21:55 <wrtlprnft>  9 BUG_COLOR_OVEFLOW 0
21:56 <wrtlprnft> it was already there, just typoed
21:56 <epsy> the closest non-dark color would be in most cases unreadable
21:56 <epsy> heh$
21:56 <wrtlprnft> so what does your serverside code do, then?
21:57 <epsy> it simply filters them
21:57 <epsy> the probalem was, that the client doesn't know what is a /team message
21:58 <wrtlprnft> x_X
22:04 <wrtlprnft> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/config_tournament_server/annotate/z-man%40users.sf.net-20080319164813-ju139wm2rill41in?file_id=doc.cfg-20080319164806-dqzti7qb5sa0c3sd-1
22:04 <wrtlprnft> wow, you can actually use \ for continuation lines? neat.
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22:23 <luke-jr> lol
22:42 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: you're wrong about your texture statement, btw
22:43 <wrtlprnft> arma DOES run faster w/o textures on my crappy card
22:45 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: 29fps vs 38 fps with the exact same recording. Not to mention that big textures (like 2048^2, even mipmapped) really slow it down a lot.
23:18 <zmanuel> ah? ok.
23:19 <zmanuel> I was under the impression that as long as textures fit completely into the card's memory, there should not be a slowdonw.
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