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Log from 2008-03-21: --- Day changed Fri Mar 21 2008 00:50 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871865.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:55 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@queue.rh.rit.edu] has quit [] 00:58 -!- libervisco [n=libervis@tuxhacker/libervisco] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:07 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit ["Going!"] 01:12 -!- flex [n=savas@host81-129-181-136.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 01:28 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:57 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust888.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron 03:06 -!- Monkey_arma [n=None@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust888.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:35 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:03 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 05:42 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has joined #armagetron 05:42 -!- Ttech [n=ttech@fullcirclemagazine/developer/ttech] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:57 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:09] <saillinux> apeiron: hmm I don't seem to able to spot the W3C log file format parser u just mentioned... do you mean the apache log parser modules on cpan? 06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:36] <apeiron> perlbot, u 06:15 <luke-jr_> [00:03:37] <perlbot> 'u' is a letter of the alphabet that comes before 'v' and which can make a variety of sounds - likely, however, if I am asked about it, you're wanting me to point out how GALACTICALLY STUPID using 'u' instead of 'you' will appear. You can wean yourself of this habit by silently pronouncing it to yourself as 'oo' when you are typing it, and then you will realize how stupid you look. 06:47 -!- spidey [n=spidey@68-114-135-202.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:47 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-135-202.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron 06:47 -!- torres [n=torres@unixcorps/staff/pippijn] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:12 <mkzelda> The letter "U" has been pronounced YOU as long as I've known. 07:12 <mkzelda> not 'oo' 07:12 <mkzelda> but maybe im missing the joke 07:14 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@38.238-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:14 <mkzelda> Are we supposed to pretend its 'oo' so that we can make fun of the guy that saved 2 keystrokes because he understands homophones 07:32 <MrBougo> i'm going to time out this time, instead of disconnecting 07:32 <MrBougo> bai, have a nice day 07:32 * MrBougo disconnects now 07:52 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@38.238-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:41 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871865.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 09:55 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 09:56 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:56 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 10:05 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-178-153.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 10:13 <eddiefantastic> Ah, I see :)/away 10:13 <eddiefantastic> oops 10:13 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-135-202.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:14 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-135-202.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron 11:30 -!- torres [n=torres@pD9E9C7E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 11:37 -!- pippijn [n=pippijn@unixcorps/staff/pippijn] has joined #armagetron 11:47 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 12:04 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871865.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:18 <luke-jr_> mental note for whomever: libcurl with SSL support is not GPL-compatible 12:24 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as luke-jr 12:32 <wrtlprnft> … 13:01 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:16 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50872205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 14:05 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 15:41 -!- emphasis|zzzzz [n=rolf@019-139-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron 15:50 <mkzelda> what bout if you build w/ 'bindist' 15:53 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@019-139-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:02 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 16:02 -!- emphasis|zzzzz [n=rolf@019-139-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:05 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 16:16 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 16:47 -!- mkzelda is now known as mkzeldaway 16:47 -!- mkzeldaway is now known as mkzelda 16:47 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@38.238-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 16:52 -!- garbagegarbage [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 17:07 <garbagegarbage> bah 17:07 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:07 -!- garbagegarbage is now known as epsy 17:24 <MrBougo> lol 17:24 <MrBougo> sup garbagegarbage 17:25 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@38.238-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 17:39 <wrtlprnft> wow 17:39 <wrtlprnft> how do you make a screen recording that crappy? 17:42 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:45 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-76-88-47-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 18:55 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 19:20 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:20 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 19:25 <K-Yo> is it normal that I have to "make run" as root if I use latest svn build? 19:27 <luke-jr> K-Yo: you shouldn't do anything Arma-controlled as root 19:27 <luke-jr> that's just asking for Lucifer to pwn your system 19:32 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:32 -!- spidey_ [n=spidey@68-114-135-202.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:33 <K-Yo> Lucifer, please do not pwn my system 19:34 <K-Yo> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in tron/gArmagetron.cpp:689 : 19:34 <K-Yo> var directory not writable or does not exist. It should reside inside your user data directory and should have been created automatically on first start, but something must have gone wrong. Your user data directory is subdirectory named .armagetronad in your home directory. 19:34 <K-Yo> make: *** [run] Erreur 1 19:34 <K-Yo> that is what I get if I "make run" if I "sudo make run" it works 19:38 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 19:40 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: that happens if you did make run as root the first time 19:41 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: sudo chown -r `whoami` var 19:45 <luke-jr> chown -R `whoami` . 19:46 <luke-jr> might be better 19:46 <luke-jr> having root-owned object files won't help him much either 19:49 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:50 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 19:52 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~/arma$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var 19:52 <K-Yo> sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0 19:53 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-209-237.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron 19:54 <epsy> wtf are you doing... 19:56 <K-Yo> what wrtlprnft and luke-jr told me to 19:56 <K-Yo> now I can't run su :( 19:56 <K-Yo> anymore 19:56 <luke-jr> ……….. 19:56 * luke-jr smacks K-Yo 19:57 <luke-jr> you just b0rked your system 19:57 <K-Yo> how much ? 19:57 <luke-jr> quite a bit 19:57 <K-Yo> how big is that quite? 19:57 <K-Yo> that bit 19:57 <luke-jr> please paste the lines before the ones you did 19:57 <luke-jr> the first sudo chown stuff 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` 19:58 <K-Yo> [sudo] password for k-yo: 19:58 <K-Yo> chown: opérande manquante après `k-yo' 19:58 <K-Yo> Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « chown --help ». 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -r `whoami` var 19:58 <K-Yo> chown: option invalide -- r 19:58 <K-Yo> Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « chown --help ». 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var 19:58 <K-Yo> chown: ne peut accéder `var': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` /var 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ cd arma 19:58 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~/arma$ sudo chown -R `whoami` var 19:58 <luke-jr> yeah 19:58 <K-Yo> sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0 19:58 <luke-jr> you f'd it up 19:58 <luke-jr> [14:02:00] <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ sudo chown -R `whoami` /var 19:58 <K-Yo> T.T 19:58 <luke-jr> = suicide 19:58 <K-Yo> that much? 19:59 <luke-jr> what OS? 19:59 <K-Yo> ubuntu 19:59 <luke-jr> sign 19:59 <luke-jr> sigh* 19:59 <luke-jr> ok 20:00 <luke-jr> anyone else here have ubuntu? 20:00 <luke-jr> K-Yo: uh, do you happen to have a root shell open btw? 20:00 <K-Yo> nope 20:00 <K-Yo> I never let root shell open 20:01 <K-Yo> I jsut type sudo every line 20:01 <luke-jr> do you have a root pass? 20:01 <K-Yo> (I need) 20:01 <K-Yo> yep 20:01 <luke-jr> ok 20:01 <luke-jr> use su 20:01 <K-Yo> it can't 20:02 <K-Yo> when I type my pass it says error 20:02 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ su 20:02 <K-Yo> Mot de passe : 20:02 <K-Yo> su : Échec d'authentification 20:02 <K-Yo> Désolé. 20:02 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-laptop:~$ 20:02 -!- torres_ [n=torres@pD9E9C7E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron 20:05 <luke-jr> poor K-Yo 20:05 <K-Yo> I think I'm sudo if I run the recovery no? 20:06 <luke-jr> what? 20:06 <luke-jr> i think you need to boot a livecd now 20:06 <K-Yo> oh 20:06 <luke-jr> ideally an Ubuntu one 20:06 <K-Yo> I have one in my player 20:06 <luke-jr> ok 20:06 <K-Yo> but I have to push the tray 20:06 <luke-jr> come back once you're on the livecd then I gues 20:06 <K-Yo> and then press restart 20:06 <K-Yo> eeer 20:07 <K-Yo> can I launch xchat from live cd? 20:11 <wrtlprnft> err, sorry for not telling you to not, in any case, ever, put a / in front of var 20:11 <wrtlprnft> now, what the hell is sudo doing in /var? 20:12 <K-Yo> is it me you're asking to? :S 20:13 <wrtlprnft> anyone responsible for the mess that calls itself ubuntu 20:15 -!- torres [n=torres@unixcorps/staff/pippijn] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:15 <K-Yo> is anything in the dir /var/backups interesting? 20:16 <K-Yo> such as group.bak or passwd.bak 20:28 -!- flex [n=savas@host81-129-181-136.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #armagetron 20:35 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-209-237.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:35 -!- Bougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-209-237.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #armagetron 20:42 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:45 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 20:45 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit [Client Quit] 20:45 -!- K-Yo [n=k-yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has joined #armagetron 20:46 <K-Yo> luke-jr, wrtlprnft, I solved my problem ;) 20:46 -!- ct|kyl1 [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 20:46 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-132-88.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:46 -!- ct|kyl1 is now known as ct|kyle 20:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: sudo uses files in /var 20:47 <luke-jr> sudo also freaks out if anything is out of the norm 20:48 <luke-jr> it assumes someone is trying to hack the system 21:11 -!- flex [n=savas@host81-129-181-136.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: mind if I permanently set BUG_COLOR_OVERFLOW 0 on x sumo? it's really annoying. 21:51 <epsy> er yes 21:52 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i mean, i don't mind 21:54 <wrtlprnft> well, someone having a whity-yellowish color if they're on team blue is quite buggy 21:54 <wrtlprnft> nvm 21:55 <wrtlprnft> epsy: and i still don't understand why you don't just completely filter dark colors on your client 21:55 <wrtlprnft> turn them into the closest non-dark color or something 21:55 <wrtlprnft> 9 BUG_COLOR_OVEFLOW 0 21:56 <wrtlprnft> it was already there, just typoed 21:56 <epsy> the closest non-dark color would be in most cases unreadable 21:56 <epsy> heh$ 21:56 <wrtlprnft> so what does your serverside code do, then? 21:57 <epsy> it simply filters them 21:57 <epsy> the probalem was, that the client doesn't know what is a /team message 21:58 <wrtlprnft> x_X 22:04 <wrtlprnft> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/config_tournament_server/annotate/z-man%40users.sf.net-20080319164813-ju139wm2rill41in?file_id=doc.cfg-20080319164806-dqzti7qb5sa0c3sd-1 22:04 <wrtlprnft> wow, you can actually use \ for continuation lines? neat. 22:06 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBougo 22:18 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-209-237.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 22:23 <luke-jr> lol 22:42 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: you're wrong about your texture statement, btw 22:43 <wrtlprnft> arma DOES run faster w/o textures on my crappy card 22:45 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: 29fps vs 38 fps with the exact same recording. Not to mention that big textures (like 2048^2, even mipmapped) really slow it down a lot. 23:18 <zmanuel> ah? ok. 23:19 <zmanuel> I was under the impression that as long as textures fit completely into the card's memory, there should not be a slowdonw. 23:29 -!- Lackadaisical [n=chatzill@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron 23:36 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@019-139-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #armagetron 23:38 -!- flex [i=flex@host81-129-181-136.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #armagetron 23:47 -!- Angel_H [n=Angel@cpc4-stkp5-0-0-cust114.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetronView entire month