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00:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8275 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed blank screen bug; it was caused by bad tToDo recursion.
00:54 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8276 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eVoter.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed one vote item delivery bug. There must be another one hiding somewhere, though.
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01:02 <epsy> luke-jr, any way i can upload a config file to the repository?
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01:20 <luke-jr> epsy: don't know that there's a policy on that
01:20 <luke-jr> epsy: get the evil guys to ok it and email it to me
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05:25 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8277 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/eEventNotification.cpp: Only send a Growl update if not dedicated
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11:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8278 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tools/tRecorder.cpp: Fixed extra trailing \0 in playback strings.
11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8279 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentication.cpp: Added full user name to recording.
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11:48 <zmanuel> Phew, just in time for the adsl reset :)
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13:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8280 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nAuthentication.cpp: Recording fixes for the case when there are errors talking to the authority.
13:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8281 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/configure.ac: Added -O0 to debug configuration, just in case.
13:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8282 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eVoter.cpp: Fixed clientside reception of server controlled vote items.
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14:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8283 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eVoter.cpp: Re-added VOTE_USE_SERVER_CONTROLLED_KICK config item on the client to avoid UPGRADE messages.
15:02 <epsy> z-man, is this <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=194849> patch still neccessary ?
15:02 <epsy> (the ZThreads one)
15:02 <z-man> Not if you compile with -fpermissive.
15:03 <epsy> ok thanks
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15:04 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8284 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ (ePlayer.cpp ePlayer.h):
15:04 <armabot> armagetronad: Voter datastructure (with a little more persistence than ePlayerNetID) is only used to store suspensions while the ePlayerNetID object does not exist.
15:04 <armabot> armagetronad: This avoids suspending everyone connecting from the same LAN all at once.
15:05 <z-man> Now, what to do with the slow zone collapse?
15:06 <epsy> stop letting it being affected by players?
15:07 <z-man> It already is unaffected by players, I think.
15:09 <epsy> so why does it turn backwards
15:09 <z-man> Because :)
15:10 <z-man> As a symbol that it has been conquered.
15:10 <z-man> Would greying it work better?
15:10 <epsy> fading it? maybe
15:10 <z-man> Smoothly fading would not be possible, but suddenly making it a low intensity grey is possible.
15:11 <epsy> oh
15:11 <epsy> :(
15:11 <z-man> Well, with lots of sync messages, smooth fading is sort of possible, but it's wasteful.
15:13 <epsy> what about a client side fade?
15:14 * z-man does not want to do too fancy clientside stuff in zones 1.0
15:14 <epsy> heh
15:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8285 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gWinZone.cpp:
15:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Experimenting with different visuals for slowly collapsing zones.
15:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Take 1: When conquered, the zone lights up in white, then slows down. When the rotation stops, it darkens.
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15:35 <madmax> z-man: like maz was saying yesterday, why not just make them disappear? and perhaps a big "Zone's dead!"
15:39 <z-man> Well, when they're gone, they give no indication how long it will be before the kill effect happens.
15:39 <epsy> transform them into a clock! :þ
15:40 <epsy> wrtlprnft, where is DEDICATED_IDLE set to 0 on xfort?
15:41 <madmax> text warnings...? "10 seconds left"
15:42 <z-man> Work :)
15:46 <z-man> Of course, yeah, if all else fails, text messages are going to be the way. People are not too eager to read them, though.
15:46 <z-man> Of course, it's something different whether you're crazily mazing inside the enemy zone and you miss the message that the zone is conquered :)
15:48 <madmax> can the zone's colour be changed on the fly?
15:48 <z-man> yep.
15:49 <madmax> black would look pretty dead
15:49 <z-man> Black would be invisible :)
15:49 <z-man> zones are rendered with additive blending.
15:49 <madmax> close to black :-P
15:49 <z-man> I have them half-dark grey now, looks ghosty enough.
16:03 <+noob7> z-man, one question, I am currently trying to install the 2.8_alpha20080217, but when doing ./bootstrap.sh I get the following exxor message: http://pastebin.ca/933901, ZThread is installed and had CXXGLAGS=-fpermissive set, I have no clue where to go from here...
16:07 <z-man> Well, that error message says that ZTHead has not installed its AM_PATH_ZTHREAD macro
16:07 <z-man> odd, I thought we'd be supplying that.
16:08 <+noob7> I tried finding anything about AM_PATH_ZTHREAD macro but wasnt really able to find anything at all Oo
16:09 <+noob7> how would I go about manually adding the macro?
16:10 <z-man> It shoudlnt' be used, actually.
16:10 <z-man> can you check configure.ac?
16:10 <epsy> noob7, did you install the ZThreads-dev package?
16:10 <z-man> It should use AM_PATH_ZTHREAD_AA macro.
16:11 <+noob7> what should I look for in configure.ac?
16:11 <z-man> AM_PATH_ZTHREAD.
16:12 <z-man> You shoudln't actually run ./bootstrap.sh for source tarballs, but that's another thing, lets first check the macro.
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16:14 <+noob7> its not in configure.ac
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16:15 <z-man> where is it then? If there is an error message, it has to be somewhere.
16:17 <+noob7> well the error message says it can't be found, right? Oo
16:18 <StickyNoob> heh, circular reasoning
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16:19 <z-man> Sure, but it doesn't complain that SDKFLJSDF:LPSDIFSF can't be found either :)
16:19 <z-man> Something must be looking for the macro, and I'd like to know what.
16:20 <madmax> grep -r "AM_PATH_ZTHREAD" . ? :-P
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16:23 <z-man> madmax: I did that, of course, and it doesn't turn up anything (apart from a comment and AM_PATH_ZTHREAD_AA things)
16:25 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8286 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/macosx/AAURLHandler.mm: gServerInfoFavorite -> nServerInfoRedirect
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17:04 <epsy> wrtlprnft, you there?
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17:05 <z-man> I think he's on vacation or something.
17:05 <epsy> ah? meh :|
17:06 <rico> ;o
17:06 <z-man> I also think he said something about being back sunday.
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17:28 <K-Yo> On last build of 0.3, the chatbot doesn't turn at all?
17:28 <z-man> Feature :)
17:29 * z-man doesn't know about the 0.3 builds, but on latest 0.2.8, it's still working fine.
17:30 <K-Yo> roger
17:32 <K-Yo> who's taking care of 0.3?
17:32 <K-Yo> because the chat bot is not a big problem
17:33 <K-Yo> but I can't vote anymore for pending polls
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17:45 <z-man> The vote thing is going to be fixed in the next build.
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8287 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8269 to 8286:
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
17:53 <armabot> armagetronad: r8285 | z-man | 2008-03-08 15:24:06 +0100 (Sat, 08 Mar 2008) | 3 lines
17:53 <armabot> armagetronad: Experimenting with different visuals for slowly collapsing zones.
17:53 <armabot> armagetronad: Take 1: When conquered, the zone lights up in white, then slows down. When the rotation stops, it darkens.
17:53 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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18:26 <epsy> z-man, that change is client-side, right?
18:26 <z-man> No, server side.
18:27 <z-man> The client is too clueless about the true state of the fortress to do anything meaningful.
18:27 <epsy> oh i see
18:36 <Ttech> 0.0
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19:09 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8288 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gGame.cpp: Typo, don't include gWinZone.cpp
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19:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8289 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8_alpha20080308.
19:23 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
19:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8290 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: The usual generic-linux-gnu -> GNU/Linux transformation.
19:24 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:23 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8291 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: added bits.
21:59 <epsy> #sd o.s
21:59 <armabot> epsy: ¦×¦.Sumo.Server: Players (0/16):
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22:04 <epsy> #tell wrtlprnft i've found a way to make my stdin input files-fed servers to restart once dedicated_idle expired, see startserver.php
22:05 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft i've found a way to make my stdin input files-fed servers to restart once dedicated_idle expired, see startserver.php
22:05 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:16 <+noob7> ls
22:16 <+noob7> lsls
22:20 <epsy> lslsls
22:23 <epsy> um, except settings_custom.cfg and server_info.cfg, there's no other *required* config file?
22:32 <zmanuel> epsy: and even these are not required.
22:34 <epsy> ah..
22:36 <epsy> zmanuel, what else could generate a config files not found error?
22:37 <zmanuel> config files not being found?
22:37 <zmanuel> is it a fatal error?
22:37 <epsy> yes
22:39 <zmanuel> Ah, we're looking for the standard config files to see where the configuration is stored :)
22:39 <zmanuel> What error is it?
22:39 <epsy> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in tron/gArmagetron.cpp:562 :
22:39 <epsy> Configuration files not found. Check your installation.
22:39 <epsy> duudii will probably answer better than me
22:42 <duudii> well it sort of got solved...
22:42 <epsy> how?
22:42 <duudii> by not using the --configdir flag :P
22:42 <epsy> haha
22:43 <duudii> I'm too confused and frustrated..
22:43 <duudii> this will do for now.
22:44 <epsy> um, this way you have no way setting config for your different servers
22:44 <duudii> yeah..that's the problem
22:44 <epsy> what could cause this :/
22:54 <+noob7> ls57r3374r7
22:54 <zmanuel> dunno, I'm looking at it.
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23:32 <Durka> #hello
23:32 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
23:33 <ct|kyle> dorka
23:33 <Durka> k(oi)le
23:37 <deja_vu> http://www.gk-film.de/uploads/media/Titanen_dtVCD_PAL_01.mpg
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23:52 <Durka> #m wrtlprnft http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=ServerNameGoesHere <---does that come from the serverxml.php file?
23:52 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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23:52 <deja_vu> hm... wrong channel ><
23:54 <zmanuel> epsy, duudii: sorry, works for me. Need more info on what exactly you are doing.
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is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...