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01:03 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8041 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Further namespace work. Trouble with Templates + Masters + Namespaces, couldn't get "Std Vector With(Int)" to work yet.
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10:21 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8042 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 5 dirs): New setting to determine the color of the seperator line between the foregroud and background of bar gauges
10:21 <wrtlprnft> argh, separator
10:22 * wrtlprnft hates if these kinds of errors get stored for all eternity
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10:36 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8043 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: New release, hopefully without mistakes this time.
10:36 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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11:16 <z-man> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
11:17 <z-man> Io reallocates the stack :/
11:17 <luke-jr> …
11:46 <eddiefantastic> cycle_walls_stay_up_delay was never written with scripting in mind. grumble..grumble...
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11:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8044 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Name of TEMPLATE_CLASS_MASTER defaults to the name set in TEMPLATE_CLASS.
11:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8045 /private/z-man/clio/tests/container.test/output.txt: Updated test output expectation.
12:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8046 /private/z-man/clio/tests/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added test where currently, Io craps all over the stack. Odd.
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12:50 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8047 /private/z-man/clio/tests/container.test/test.io: Reverted accidental test change.
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13:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8048 /private/z-man/clio/ (gcmarker.cpp ifunctioninfo.cpp): Avoid calling IoState_error_ from within fragile C++ stacks.
13:25 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8049 /private/z-man/clio/tests/stack.test/output.txt: fixed output to expectation.
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14:57 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8050 /private/z-man/clio/ (15 files in 7 dirs): Everything clio now is in the namespace "Clio" on the io side. Adapted test expected outputs and Io code to that.
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15:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8051 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Security levels now propagate from base to subclass and from namespace to contained classes.
15:59 * z-man-work takes back the earlier NOOOOOOOO, that was false alarm.
16:14 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
16:14 <wrtlprnft> i wonder how that would work
16:18 <wrtlprnft> http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/POTTERH1/armamods.png ← what people notice about my screenshots. got that in a pm
16:19 <eddiefantastic> wrtlprnft: how do you do all those things?????
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16:20 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: ;-)
16:20 <wrtlprnft> the only “complicated” one is the cycle size
16:20 <eddiefantastic> BACKWARD_COMPATIBILITY (maximum number of old protocol verstions to support) <---anyone have any idea how I can use this to block out clients older than 0.2.8.1
16:21 <wrtlprnft> sec
16:21 <wrtlprnft> there's a list in the sources
16:21 <eddiefantastic> ah, ok
16:23 <P4> .grep "/.*\[.*\].*/"
16:23 <P4> #grep "/.*\[.*\].*/"
16:23 <armabot> P4: This data is 18 seconds old: [FKL]-Pyr0TeK, [noclan] JC, [FeKaJoE(TM)], °[FBC]°Necrosus
16:24 <P4> i've just forgot that supybot tries to evaluate what's within [] :P
16:25 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/network/nConfig.cpp?&view=markup#l_437
16:26 <eddiefantastic> 13 then, unlucky for some :)
16:26 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: current svn servers are either version 15 or 14
16:26 <eddiefantastic> thanks
16:26 <wrtlprnft> err, note that it's the difference
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16:27 <wrtlprnft> if your server is v45 and BACKWARD_COMPATIBILITY is 3 it will not let clients older than v42 in
16:27 <eddiefantastic> our server is alpha, so the diff is 1 or -1
16:27 <eddiefantastic> ok
16:29 <wrtlprnft> why do you want to block out old clients that way?
16:29 <eddiefantastic> the cam of older clients doesn't follow the cycle correctly
16:29 <wrtlprnft> just use some setting that blocks them out
16:29 <eddiefantastic> such as?
16:31 <eddiefantastic> cycle_first_spawn_protection should block out clients older than 0.2.8_alpha20060414
16:31 <wrtlprnft> if the _override for that setting is at its default
16:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8052 /private/z-man/clio/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Added support for default namespace.
16:33 <eddiefantastic> which it is, I get a notice to that effect when I start the server
16:33 <eddiefantastic> but I still get complaints of people having to press their cam button to follow their cycle
16:34 <wrtlprnft> ah
16:34 <eddiefantastic> and I've just redone rice krispies (for better or for worse) that uses respawns
16:34 <eddiefantastic> instead of wall explosions
16:35 <wrtlprnft> which one was rice crispies again?
16:35 <wrtlprnft> i don't remember the map names because they don't tell me anything
16:36 <eddiefantastic> snap, crackle and pop, dodn't you eat cereal?
16:37 <eddiefantastic> I meant 0.2.8.2.1 btw
16:37 <wrtlprnft> ah, the one that makes walls disappear once in a while
16:37 <eddiefantastic> I get easily confused
16:37 <eddiefantastic> yes
16:37 <eddiefantastic> but creates great lags
16:38 <eddiefantastic> a bug in setting blast_radius rediculously high btw
16:39 <eddiefantastic> *explosion_radius
16:39 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a lot of network traffic
16:39 <eddiefantastic> oh yeah, I guess
16:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8053 /private/z-man/clio/tests/templates.test/ (test.cpp test.io): Added test for nonmaster in different namespace. works.
16:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8054 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion_extended.hpp tests/templates.test/output.txt): Whoops, forgot to adapt output. Using test result to transfer "Clio Ref" back no non-master template.
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17:44 <Phlogistique> mh, is there any page about moviepack troubleshooting (like, I put the moviepack directory at the right place, and the game still doesn't change his look) ?
17:45 <wrtlprnft> Phlogistique: you need to disable it somewhere
17:46 <Phlogistique> to disable what ? I want to enable moviepacks, not disable them oO
17:47 <wrtlprnft> enable i mean
17:47 <wrtlprnft> there's a setting somewhere
17:47 <wrtlprnft> system settings→misc stuff or s
17:47 <wrtlprnft> o
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18:12 <Phlogistique> I've done it several time, but it has no effect
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18:27 <z-man-work> Phlogistique: then your moviepack is not in the right place :)
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18:38 <wrtlprnft> or it's not a moviepack. mpegs don't have anything to do with moviepacks AFAIK
18:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: who said anything about mpegs? O.o
18:40 <wrtlprnft> there was a forum post recently
18:40 <wrtlprnft> something about cycle models and what to open .mpg files with
18:45 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8055 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
18:45 <armabot> armagetronad: Phew, finally fully fixed the template master name generation. The template
18:45 <armabot> armagetronad: master is now always generated according to the specifications in the template,
18:45 <armabot> armagetronad: the CLIO_TEMPLATE_MASTER statement and especially the dummy class used for
18:45 <armabot> armagetronad: CLIO_TEMPLATE_NOMASTER have nothing to say.
18:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8056 /clio/: public place for clio.
18:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8057 /clio/trunk/: public place for clio.
18:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8058 / (clio/trunk/clio/ private/z-man/clio/): Moving clio into a more public place.
18:49 * wrtlprnft updates his wc and has a look
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19:00 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: bzr branch lp:clio
19:00 * z-man-work registered https://code.launchpad.net/clio
19:01 <z-man-work> Don't expect too much, especially don't expect it to build with a stock Io and default makefile. They somehow forget to install the headers.
19:05 <z-man-work> Oh yeah, I'm using Io-2008-01-17 right now. The later 02- update failed to build for me.
19:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8059 /clio/trunk/clio/factory.hpp: To be safe, let references to C++ managed memory break when objects are created and destroyed.
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19:34 <wrtlprnft> meh. i think i'll rather work on other arma related stuff for the time being, doesn't look like i can do a lot right now :-(
19:34 <z-man-work> Well, did you get it to compile? :)
19:36 <wrtlprnft> fetching io right now
19:36 <wrtlprnft> i hope you can tell clio to use a prefixed io
19:47 <wrtlprnft> err, it build
19:47 <wrtlprnft> i wonder how it managed to link to io
19:47 <wrtlprnft> *built
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r8060 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/ (map-0.3.1-a.dtd map-0.3.1-c.dtd): do not change dtd that are in use
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20:37 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: /home/mathias/armagetronad3/clio/iclassinfo.cpp:776: undefined reference to `IoObject_rawAppendProto_'
20:37 <wrtlprnft> what do i need to link to besides -liovmall?
20:39 <zmanuel> Nothing, afaik.
20:39 <zmanuel> Are there other missing references?
20:40 <wrtlprnft> tons
20:40 <wrtlprnft> there's a libiovm.so, but the linker doesn't want to find it
20:42 <zmanuel> g++ -Wall -pedantic -g -I/usr/local/include/io -I ../../ -o test -liovmall test.o ../../libclio.a
20:42 <zmanuel> That's my (working) linker line.
20:46 * wrtlprnft tries installing the thing into a local prefix
20:46 <wrtlprnft> apparently it doesn't like being directly referred to from its build dir
20:48 <wrtlprnft> err
20:48 <wrtlprnft> now it linked
20:48 <wrtlprnft> but i can't find the binary
20:50 <zmanuel> ah, the tests are executables
20:50 <zmanuel> should be in bla.test/test
20:51 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ ls tests/enum.test/test ~/armagetronad3/clio
20:51 <wrtlprnft> ls: cannot access tests/enum.test/test: No such file or directory
20:51 <wrtlprnft> in fact, there's no plain file with +x
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20:53 <z-man> hmm
20:53 <z-man> what does "make" do when invoked from the test directory?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> currently doing that
20:54 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't seem to stop on error
20:54 <wrtlprnft> there we go, now there's binaries
20:55 <wrtlprnft> ah, it outputs something now
20:55 <wrtlprnft> some tests do, at least
20:56 <wrtlprnft> now i need to find out what to do with it :-)
20:57 <z-man> So far, not much :)
20:57 * z-man needs to write docs
20:58 <wrtlprnft> well, at least i know how to build it
20:58 <z-man> I'll be moving the whole thing to automake sometime
20:58 <wrtlprnft> to optimize away the time between the point where it starts to be useful for something and the time i can use it for that something ;-)
20:58 <wrtlprnft> sounds reasonable
20:58 <wrtlprnft> this was a mess
20:59 <wrtlprnft> your makefile overwrites CXXFLAGS instead of appending to it
20:59 <z-man> heh :)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> and it doesn't seem to use LDFLAGS at all
20:59 <wrtlprnft> took me some time to figure out
21:00 <z-man> Nope, it's all evil hardcoding.
21:00 <wrtlprnft> i didn't notice it had no effect until i did -lasdf
21:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8061 /clio/trunk/clio/tests/namespace.test/test2.io: Whoops, forgot second script.
21:34 <luke-jr> it didn't just like in libasdf?
21:35 <epsy> what an inspirated lib name :«
21:36 <wrtlprnft> err
21:36 <wrtlprnft> there IS a libasdf?
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22:22 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8062 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. enum.hpp factory.hpp): Manuel Moos: Repaired enum test: enum creation and destruction is now non-breaking.
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22:23 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8063 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. .bzrignore): Manuel Moos: Added ignore files.
22:23 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: there seems to be
22:26 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8064 /clio/trunk/clio/ (194 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Moved to automake. Tests currently don't work.
22:38 <z-man> Hmm, now, how do I automatically compile and run all those tests with automake?
22:38 * pippijn pukes on automake
22:39 <z-man> It's less convoluted that xcode or code::blocks :)
22:39 <luke-jr> make test IIRC is the normal way
22:40 <z-man> Well, I've got two dozen tests scattered in as many directories.
22:42 <z-man> And the thing I want to avoid is having to give each an Makefile.am, list it in configure.ac, or worse, compile them all from one level above.
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23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8065 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. configure.ac tests/Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: Added test compilation rules.
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23:46 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8066 /clio/trunk/clio/ (. tests/Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: fixed linker order.
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Logs from 2006-2009 pulled from wrtlprnft
Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.
• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome

is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...