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00:24 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/Blasted-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet
00:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/Blasted-3.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet
00:53 <StickyNoob> #tea
00:53 <armabot> StickyNoob: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8025 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Yay, std::vector parameters wrapped in all variants.
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02:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8026 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Creation and passing in of std::vector objects now works, too.
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02:57 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8027 /private/z-man/clio/ (proxy.hpp std_container.hpp): GCC 4.1 compatibility (ok,ok, standard compliance)
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03:30 <armabot> lpbugs: [192860] sumo zones don't collapse for lack of enemy zones anymore || [192766] Cycle turn sound doesn't play until until player dies || [192760] When player leaves in the middle of a round, their wall continues to stay || [192519] RFI: Ability for server operators to force failure of a (kick) poll with a remode admin command || [192223] Entering server management commands at the client console produces fatal error || [191999] E
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07:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: map previews are broken once more, probably a ruby/rmagick thing
07:09 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/Blasted-2.aamap.xml
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07:26 <beta|AoS|> luke-jr: got the new server
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09:24 <flex> morning..
09:25 <flex> anyone even up or around? :p
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10:44 <wrtlprnft> flex: why?
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10:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: …
10:53 <luke-jr> Dynamic linking on your system is consistent… All done.
10:55 <wrtlprnft> ?
10:55 <wrtlprnft> ah
10:55 <wrtlprnft> well, why does it fail, then?
10:55 <wrtlprnft> maybe rebuild rmagick, anyways, it might be some ruby-specific thing
11:14 <flex> you both are really gay :D
11:20 <armabot> lpbugs: [193938] MOVE_TO makes the title screen appear on the trunk
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13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8028 /private/z-man/clio/ (14 files in 4 dirs):
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Better template generation selection: previously, you'd always get
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: std::vector<float> when you wanted std::vector<int>. Now, Int, LongInt,
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: UnsignedInt, ShortInt... can be used as arguments to the With() instantiation
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: functions.
13:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8029 /private/z-man/clio/dataconversion_extended.hpp: Just added comment.
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15:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8030 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Slightly Smarter way to handle ObjectWrapperAwares.
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15:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8031 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Even less junk around ObjectWrapperAware.
15:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8032 /private/z-man/clio/iclassinfo.cpp: Smarter delegation order of Fetch...() function family.
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15:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8033 /private/z-man/clio/factory.hpp: Crashfix.
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15:39 <ady666> hi,how could i get server's ips
15:43 <ady666> apart of using my firewall or netstat...
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16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8034 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Primitive wrappers now break instead of detach.
16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for proxy ownership changes.
16:16 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrltprnft@forums
16:16 <wrtlprnft> #rating 0:wrltprnft@forums
16:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I don't know anything about 'wrltprnft@forums'!
16:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I don't know anything about '0:wrltprnft@forums'!
16:17 <wrtlprnft> #rating wrtlprnft@forums
16:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: I don't know anything about 'wrtlprnft@forums'!
16:17 <wrtlprnft> #rating 0:wrtlprnft@forums
16:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0:wrtlprnft@forums is 351st with a rating of 1553-1603 (from 1551-1602)
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16:32 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
16:32 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 340th with a rating of 1555-1610 (from 1557-1607)
16:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: :D
16:32 <luke-jr> I'm a whole 2-7 points ahead XD
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16:52 <wrtlprnft> i was working on that
16:52 <wrtlprnft> 8.	 wrtlprnft@forums		1555	-	1600		1551	-	1602
16:52 <wrtlprnft> 9.	 luke@dashjr.org		1555	-	1610		1557	-	1607
16:53 <wrtlprnft> and i stopped being pinkish
16:53 <wrtlprnft> note that i don't get the reason why i'm before you in the ranking
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16:53 <luke-jr> .01 or such likely
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16:55 <luke-jr> both of us still have a slight pink tint :/
16:56 <wrtlprnft> my live rating doesn't
16:56 <luke-jr> slight
16:56 <luke-jr> #rating forda$
16:56 <armabot> luke-jr: forda$ is 19th with a rating of 1680-1800 (from 971-1430)
16:56 <luke-jr> what I don't get is how he did that without increasing volatility
16:56 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i see it when i look at my lcd from a 10% angle
16:56 <luke-jr> &sel=0:wrtlprnft@forums
16:57 <K-Yo> #svn
16:57 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
16:59 <K-Yo> that is so cool
17:00 <wrtlprnft> ?
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17:04 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: dling and compiling the very latest version :D
17:05 <wrtlprnft> :-)
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17:05 <K-Yo> where can I change screen settings?
17:06 <K-Yo> when I play arma, the luminosity gets lower after few minutes
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17:09 <wrtlprnft> luminosity? err, arma shouldn't change that
17:09 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's some display list bug
17:09 <wrtlprnft> what happens if you disable them?
17:09 <K-Yo> it's not an arma thing
17:09 <K-Yo> it's an ubuntu setting
17:10 <K-Yo> I found it :D
17:11 <K-Yo> but I have an armagetron bug
17:11 <K-Yo> just for you :D
17:12 <K-Yo> the clock on top of the screen is in a white square
17:13 <wrtlprnft> but the other gauges are all fine?
17:13 <wrtlprnft> the rounded ones
17:13 <K-Yo> yep
17:13 <K-Yo> yes
17:13 <K-Yo> only the clock
17:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe you have a partial download
17:13 <wrtlprnft> try rm -r ~/.armagetronad/resource/automatic/wrtlprnft
17:14 <K-Yo> no such file or directory
17:14 <K-Yo> I use svn
17:15 <K-Yo> I did not install it, just make, and make run to play
17:15 <wrtlprnft> rm -r resource/automatic/wrtlprnft
17:15 <K-Yo> I have svn stuff downloaded in ~/arma
17:15 <wrtlprnft> in the same dir you run make install in
17:15 <wrtlprnft> err
17:15 <wrtlprnft> make run i mean
17:16 <K-Yo> done
17:16 <K-Yo> no message
17:16 <wrtlprnft> that's fine
17:16 <wrtlprnft> unix commands aren't as chatty as windows ones, at least the traditional ones
17:16 <K-Yo> still the problem
17:17 <wrtlprnft> very weird
17:17 <K-Yo> the console downloaded benboisclock.png
17:17 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:17 <wrtlprnft> that's the image that appears to be broken
17:17 <K-Yo> but I have white background now on menues
17:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: did you get Markov working yet?
17:17 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: no, i have no idea how
17:17 <luke-jr> ☹
17:17 <luke-jr> don't they have a FM?
17:17 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: did you get resource previews working yet?
17:18 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: no clue what's wrong ☺
17:18 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: err, that shouldn't happen
17:18 <K-Yo> hum too bad
17:18 <K-Yo> you want me to send a report or something?
17:19 <wrtlprnft> maybe a screenshot :-D
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and check if you can view the images under resource/automatic/wrtlprnft
17:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: rmagick rebuilt
17:21 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/912743
17:24 <luke-jr> oh well
17:25 <K-Yo> what is the terminal cmd to open an image?
17:25 <luke-jr> gwenview some.png
17:26 <K-Yo> I don't have gwenview
17:26 <K-Yo> is it worst dling?
17:26 <luke-jr> then pick your fav image viewer -.-
17:26 <luke-jr> not like it matters
17:28 <wrtlprnft> kuickshow
17:28 <wrtlprnft> konqueror
17:28 <wrtlprnft> kolourpaint
17:28 <wrtlprnft> gimp
17:29 <wrtlprnft> even identify is enough for my needs
17:29 <luke-jr> krita
17:29 <luke-jr> display!
17:29 <wrtlprnft> even though you can hardly call it an image viewer
17:29 <luke-jr> display is
17:29 <K-Yo> I used eog
17:29 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: maybe it's something with his SDL-Image?
17:29 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: but wouldn't other textures fail to load, too?
17:29 <K-Yo> where does arma saves screenshots on linux?
17:30 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: kuickshow tabcomplets faster than display
17:30 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: screenshots/
17:31 <wrtlprnft> displ<tab> is longer than kui<tab>
17:31 <luke-jr> ok already
17:32 <wrtlprnft> oh, i forgot opera
17:32 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: http://imagebin.ca/img/U5DDTAT.png
17:33 <wrtlprnft> oh, so it does load correctly
17:33 <wrtlprnft> except for the white bg where there shouldn't be one
17:34  * wrtlprnft thought the entire image was missing
17:35 <K-Yo> nonono
17:35 <K-Yo> sry if I explained badly
17:35 <K-Yo> :(
17:35 <luke-jr> why is the clock an oval?
17:35 <luke-jr> and have 3 hands?
17:35 <K-Yo> I have 2 hands
17:35 <K-Yo> :p
17:35 <wrtlprnft> it's an oval because it doesn't adapt to widescreen yet
17:35 <wrtlprnft> and it has 3 hands like every reasonable clock
17:35 <K-Yo> hehe
17:35 <luke-jr> most have 2
17:36 <K-Yo> not mine
17:36 <wrtlprnft> well, a really resonable clock is digital.
17:36 <luke-jr> and hexadecimal
17:36  * K-Yo wishes he had a solar one
17:36 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: hmm, some experiment: could you replace the clock image in resource/automatic by one of the gauge images?
17:36 <luke-jr> ooh
17:36  * wrtlprnft wishes the sun was shining so he could have a working solar clock
17:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I want a solar clock sitting on top of the cycle
17:37 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: that's already possible, just make your own cockpit.
17:37 <luke-jr> it is⁈
17:37 <luke-jr> I didn't know cockpits could define 3D objects and place them relative to your cycle
17:37 <wrtlprnft> it would be on top of every cycle except your own, though
17:38 <K-Yo> I do that wrtlprnft
17:38 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: 2d objects, but who cares?
17:38 <luke-jr> pfft
17:38 <wrtlprnft> camera = sun
17:40 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: same
17:40 <K-Yo> u want the screenshot?
17:43 <wrtlprnft> if the clock looks a bit like a gauge now i don't want it
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17:47 <wrtlprnft> ah, do you have ALPHA_BLEND 0?
17:48 <luke-jr> [10:47:51] <miss_sunshine> fuck you
17:48 <luke-jr> [10:48:19] <miss_sunshine> sorry 4 that?
17:48 <luke-jr> [10:48:39] <miss_sunshine> for my poor english
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:48:40] <popey> hahah
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:48:50] <miss_sunshine> :)
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:48:58] <Karlprof> miss_sunshine: It's fine, the expletive keys and the keys for "hello" /are/ fairly near to each other.
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:48:58] <kloeri> that's hardly a case of bad english
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:49:09] <spb> kloeri: it's an easy typo to make
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:49:15] <spb> as Karlprof observed
17:49 <luke-jr> [10:49:18] <kloeri> spb: true
17:50 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: i check, wait
17:51 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: yes
17:51 <wrtlprnft> what happens if you set it to 1?
17:52 <luke-jr> that sounds like a fun bug to fix
17:52 <luke-jr> <.<
17:52 <epsy> what?
17:52 <wrtlprnft> the typo thing?
17:52 <K-Yo> it works if I set it to one
17:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the alpha thing
17:52 <K-Yo> but I have the ugly minimap back :P
17:52  * wrtlprnft wonders why the other gauges work
17:52 <wrtlprnft> in alpha_blend 0 mode
17:52 <epsy> texture size?
17:53 <wrtlprnft> (and why the minimap bg disappears)
17:53 <wrtlprnft> neither should happen
17:53 <epsy> <epsy> texture size?
17:54 <wrtlprnft> well, you're saying smaller textures work perfectly, slightly bigger ones get a white bg and the smallest tex of all just disappears
17:55 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:55 <wrtlprnft> oh, the floor is actually the biggest
17:55 <wrtlprnft> still not a perfect explanation
17:55 <wrtlprnft> i think it's related to the render state when rendering those textures
17:56 <epsy> K-Yo, GL_VENDOR, GL_RENDERER GL_VERSION ?
17:56 <K-Yo> I get that in console?
17:57 <epsy> or in your user_3_1.cfg
17:57 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's not a problem with his system
17:57 <wrtlprnft> i get the same
17:58 <wrtlprnft> probably the alpha test
18:00 <epsy> er
18:02  * epsy doesn't find where is the map textured background defined
18:03 <epsy> oh
18:04 <epsy> why is the HUD map defined two times in the standard cockpit?
18:04 <wrtlprnft> one's the one you see in incam mode
18:10 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8035 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cRectangle.cpp: If alpha blending is disabled at least enable the alpha test for rendering rectangular cockpit widgets
18:11 <wrtlprnft> that's all i can do if you disable alpha blending
18:11 <wrtlprnft> without completely disobeying the setting
18:13 <K-Yo> ok thx ;)
18:14 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you make your own cockpit and reenable alpha blendinf
18:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 100% transparent pixels shouldn't require alpha blending..
18:14  * wrtlprnft just noticed that you tried to send me an image over ddc
18:15 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: it's called the alpha test
18:15 <luke-jr> i c
18:15 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8036 /private/z-man/clio/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Added security access levels.
18:15 <wrtlprnft> and it gets disabled by that setting, too
18:16 <z-man-work> Now, namespaces. Hmm.
18:16  * wrtlprnft can't wait to see scripting in action.
18:16  * z-man-work ponders whether the exisitng CLIO_CLASS_NESTED_IN is enough.
18:16 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: prepare for lots of bugs :)
18:17 <z-man-work> And things that simply don't work.
18:17  * wrtlprnft thinks he'll implement an onslaught server once scripting is ready for it
18:17 <z-man-work> One team holds the base, has finite lives, and the other team attacks with infinite respawns?
18:17 <wrtlprnft> err, no?
18:17 <z-man-work> aww
18:18 <wrtlprnft> multiple bases that are connected to each other
18:18 <wrtlprnft> and you can only conquer a base that has at least as many connections to your bases as it has to the enemy's
18:18  * wrtlprnft wonders if it's even onslaught
18:18  * wrtlprnft hasn't played ut2004 a lot
18:19 <z-man-work> Probably not :)
18:19 <wrtlprnft> it's the kind of level where you need the link gun a lot
18:19 <wrtlprnft> anyways, gotta run
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18:20 <z-man-work> You're probably right, that mode was called Onslaught. I like my version better, though :)
18:24 <epsy> what is this clio project?
18:24 <luke-jr> embedded scripting
18:24 <luke-jr> that isn't Ruby
18:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8037 /private/z-man/clio/tests/security.test/output.txt: Oops, forgot expected test output.
18:24 <epsy> that is...what?
18:24  * luke-jr wonders why it isn't ECMAScript
18:25 <z-man-work> Hey, there already is a GetNamespace() function.
18:25  * z-man-work wonders what it does.
18:26 <z-man-work> luke-jr: don't wonder why x isn't y if you haven't brought up y as a possibility.
18:26 <epsy> what language does it look the most like?
18:26 <z-man-work> Io :)
18:26 <z-man-work> www.iolanguage.com
18:26 <luke-jr> z-man-work: :þ
18:27 <epsy> heh, it works even on symbian :P
18:28 <luke-jr> z-man-work: BTW, I ported MOO to Perl
18:29 <luke-jr> part of it anyhow
18:29 <z-man-work> umm, great?
18:30 <epsy> z-man-work, it is interpreted or compilated then run in a VM ?
18:30 <z-man-work> Interpreted, I think.
18:31 <luke-jr> the website said 'vm' :o
18:31 <epsy> :/
18:31 <z-man-work> Well, definition of vm is flexible :)
18:31 <z-man-work> epsy: for dynamic type languages, that's not too much of a speed hit.
18:32 <z-man-work> You have to do millions of string lookups all of the time, that bit of parsing doesn't hurt too much.
19:32 <z-man-work> Hmm, now why did that break the container test?
19:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8038 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Added automatic namespace detection.
19:42 <z-man-work> oh, darn, random GC interference.
19:52 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8039 /private/z-man/clio/ (namespace.cpp namespace.hpp): Small cleanup.
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20:22 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: that game mode IS called onslaught
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22:10 <P4> #grep /^<.*/
22:10 <armabot> P4: This data is 34 seconds old: <<<RAGE>>>, <<WiR>>Helena
22:11 <P4> #grep /.*|.*|.*/
22:11 <armabot> P4: This data is 33 seconds old: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , #*JoRgE*#, $$JJ$$, (RD)KILLAX, (RD)Serberuz, ., .sásori, /dev/zero, /etc/passwd, 01000111, <<<RAGE>>>, <<WiR>>Helena, aerius, airglow, Alexo, Ashleigh, Ballen, bartender, beast status, Black [l0v3r, BORN OF OSIRIS, Brazill lol, (3 more messages)
22:11 <P4> er
22:11 <P4> ah
22:11 <P4> #grep /.*\|.*\|.*/
22:11 <armabot> P4: This data is 58 seconds old: måç|R|JustinO, x69x|E|Legend, x| Break |x, |BDc|AtomAnt, |DKU|*Nemeth*, |PwN|BlaZE, |RR|Heywood, |STF| Skynet, |Uno|, |XM|menda, ~|DS|~ God, ~|DS|~ slash, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~|Alien|~, ~|DS|~|CruZ|~
22:17 <P4> #grep /.*\[.*\].*/
22:17 <armabot> P4: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  preg_match() [<a href='function.preg-match'>function.preg-match</a>]: Compilation failed: missing terminating ] for character class at offset 12 in <b>/var/www/crazytronner/forums/p4/players2.php</b> on line <b>16</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>:  preg_match() [<a href='function.preg-match'>function.preg-match</a>]: Compilation failed: missing terminating ] for (5 more messages)
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22:21 <luke-jr> wtf P4
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22:28 <P4> dunno, it works when asked manually
22:29 <P4> http://crazy-tronners.com/p4/players2.php?re=/.*\[.*\].*/ <- try it
22:29 <P4> i'm doing $re = urldecode(utf8_decode($_GET["re"]));
22:31 <P4> i've tried every combination of that two functions and also tried them alone, neither work
22:32 <wrtlprnft> why would you urldecode?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> PHP is supposed to do that.
22:33 <wrtlprnft> also, try mb_detect_encoding and only convert if the GET string IS UTF-8
22:34 <P4> ok
22:39 <P4> still doesn't work :\
22:40 <P4> damn "[]", wth is wrong? http://pastebin.com/m38ead29a
22:43 <wrtlprnft> nice xml parser you have there.
22:44  * wrtlprnft notes that php has an xml parser that won't break if i change a tiny bit of the file
22:44 <wrtlprnft> which might not be too far away if the list starts to contain armathentication data
22:45 <P4> i've never parsed anything in php, that's why this script is so advanced :P
22:45 <P4> anyway the problem is with encoding when sending data bot -> php, right?
22:46 <wrtlprnft> well, PLEASE use an xml parser, i'll dig out a link
22:46 <wrtlprnft> or just look at ct's server browser
22:46 <wrtlprnft> IIRC it has a convienient function that just parses the file into an array
22:47 <P4> okay
22:47 <wrtlprnft>                 function get_server_list($stripcolors = false) {
22:47 <wrtlprnft> in serverbrowser3.php
22:47 <P4> i'll look at the ct code, just gonna smoke first
22:48 <wrtlprnft> maybe your encoding problems will go away, too. the xml file is in utf-8.
22:48 <wrtlprnft> argh, it isn't even in utf-8, but that might change, too
22:49 <wrtlprnft> maybe do print_r(get_server_list(true)); in some test file to see what the array looks like
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22:57 <armabot> lpbugs: [194144] Undescribable: Hit a wall in the middle of no where? See recording.
22:58 <wrtlprnft> sounds very display listyx
23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8040 /private/z-man/clio/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Made a boatload of plain IoObject * to IoObjectPointers to avoid the Garbage Collector from Hell.
23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Adapted enum test to namespaces.
23:00 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed double proto errors by not registering namespace protos.
23:21 <wrtlprnft> epsy: votes_cancel sounds reasonable, i'll make sure you have the required access level on the next restart
23:24 <epsy> heh, i was gonna ask you about it
23:25  * wrtlprnft loves his new big brother script
23:26 <wrtlprnft> in case i add more moderators i want to check each case of a /admin invocation
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