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01:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8011 /private/z-man/clio/tests/container.test/ (output.txt test.cpp test.io): Added foreach() implementation in Io.
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02:52 <flex> Into the Blue is really awesome in 1080p :p
02:56 <StickyNoob> Into the Blue?
02:56 <flex> Into the Blue (2005)
02:57 <StickyNoob> oh god Jessica Alba I hate it already
02:57 <flex> dude!
02:57 <flex> lol
02:57 <flex> are you serious ! :p
02:58 <StickyNoob> well with the exception of sin city she is a death sentance to a film, and she did her best to ruin sin city too
02:58 <flex> lol
02:58 <flex> some people actually watched sin city just for her
02:58 <flex> not actually talking about her acting..
02:59 <StickyNoob> some of us have net connections for that sort of thing
03:00 <flex> lol, she's very attractive.. doesn't that matter?
03:00 <StickyNoob> not realy
03:00 <flex> oh come on dude
03:00 <StickyNoob> besides if you can get aroused watching sin city you are a very weird person
03:00 <flex> how can you say Jessica Alba makes you hate movies
03:02 <flex> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1575/849998942rk7.gif
03:02 <flex> yeah I agree you can't really get aroused by watching sin city lol
03:03 <flex> a beautiful women in a movie is always a plus..
03:03 <StickyNoob> no useualy its to cover up a lack of plot
03:03 <StickyNoob> ref DOA
03:04 <StickyNoob> DOA was so bad they had to put 5 stunning women in it and it still sucked
03:04 <flex> lol
03:04 <flex> just watch Into the Blue :D
03:04 <flex> plot sucks
03:04 <flex> yes i agree
03:04 <StickyNoob> yup
03:05 <flex> but fuck her in a bikini is good enough for me to like it :D
03:05 <flex> that's 1080p of her swimming in nice baby blue waters :p
03:06 <StickyNoob> watch doom, worst game/movie crossover idea ever(ok maby not as bad as DOA) but they just thought fuck it throw in Rosamund Pike and everyone will watch it
03:06 <flex> lol
03:06 <flex> I liked the first person part actually
03:06 <flex> I thought that was very interesting in a movie
03:06 <StickyNoob> yeah that part was good
03:08 <flex> what did you think of The Invasion
03:08 <StickyNoob> need to see hitman, if they screw that plot line over I will kill them, Hitman has one of the best plots ever in games
03:08 <flex> saw it
03:09 <StickyNoob> dont say anything about it
03:09 <flex> wasn't going to :p
03:09 <StickyNoob> Resident evil 1 was a decent conversion
03:09 <flex> The Invasion - Nicole Kidman
03:09 <flex> seen it?
03:09 <StickyNoob> no
03:10 <flex> with the new james bond guy too
03:10 <StickyNoob> Daniel Craig
03:10 <flex> I'd like to hear your opinion on that
03:11 <StickyNoob> i love Daniel Craigs acting, as a person hes a bit of an arse but does good work
03:11 <flex> lol
03:11 <flex> yeah he's decent
03:11 <flex> so new james bond movie in production too
03:11 <StickyNoob> Layer Cake is fantastic
03:12 <flex> yeah
03:12 <flex> he done really good in that
03:12 <flex> I almost forgot he was the main char in that lol
03:13 <StickyNoob> yeah Daniel has refused to get his pecks out for the lads in the next film, feels hes above the pinup part of the bond image
03:13 <flex> haha
03:16 <StickyNoob> pitty they never got Sean Bean as bond, a REALY gritty bond with an accent would have benn great
03:16 <flex> hmm
03:16 <flex> don't really like his acting at all
03:16 <flex> but he's always done bad guys
03:16 <StickyNoob> DIE
03:16 <flex> so i dunno
03:16 <StickyNoob> hes great
03:16 <flex> I can't settle down with him, always feels unsettled
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03:17 <flex> like his part in mission impossible 3
03:17 <flex> but that was just terrible so..
03:18 <StickyNoob> he wasnt in MI3
03:18 <StickyNoob> was he?
03:18 <flex> oh oops
03:18 <flex> number 2
03:18 <flex> i think
03:18 <StickyNoob> he wasnt in any MI
03:19 <flex> he was..
03:19 <flex> he was the main bad guy in the second movie
03:19 <StickyNoob> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/
03:19 <StickyNoob> nope
03:19 <flex> oh right lmao
03:19 <flex> that was Dougray Scott
03:20 <flex> they look very alike actually, with same accent, if i'm not mistaken
03:21 <StickyNoob> altho another englsh actor would ruin the fact that Bond is never played by an english actor
03:21 <flex> really..
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03:22 <flex> i thought most was actually british..
03:24 <StickyNoob> british but not english
03:24 <StickyNoob> Moore and Craig are the only English ones
03:24 <flex> Sean Connery isn't english?
03:25 <flex> well british
03:25 <StickyNoob> rest are Welsh, Scotish Irish and Australian
03:25 <flex> you can't really say english is english anymore
03:25 <flex> who is even english now days
03:25 <StickyNoob> probably someone born in England
03:26 <flex> so you're basing english for where you're born?
03:26 <flex> I thought english was an ethnicity more..
03:26 <StickyNoob> hehe, controvesial idea eh?
03:27 <flex> no I thought you'd be more deeper into it then just on location of where someone would be born
03:27 <StickyNoob> its not a problem, just amusing that Bond is alwasy very English rather than Scotish or welsh
03:28 <flex> hmm well I'm fine with the idea of him being 'British'
03:29 <flex> Scottish, Welsh - whatever
03:29 <flex> same thing
03:29 <StickyNoob> Im actualy very unpatriotic about these things, Im probably one of the only British people who looks forward to the concept of europe mirroring the USA and we stop thinking of ourselfs as isolated countries
03:30 <flex> mirroring the USA? I thought the USA was trying to mirror the euros with the union stuff
03:30 <StickyNoob> nope other way around
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03:31 <StickyNoob> that was the concept of the EU
03:31 <StickyNoob> mostly to form a trading block to rival the US
03:32 <flex> right but, now i assume the usa wants that kind of union that europe has
03:32 <StickyNoob> additionaly if you think that the English and Scotish share a common culture you have never been to Scotland
03:32 <flex> they have their own american union now right too?
03:32 <StickyNoob> well they are a union of states
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03:33 <flex> na i don't think thay share and have the same culture, i just think it's similar and nothing major to start deviding
03:33 <flex> that's the 'united' states
03:33 <StickyNoob> yeah, we were talking about the USA
03:34 <flex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union
03:34 <flex> was on about that
03:34 <StickyNoob> ah yes NAFTA
03:35 <flex> makes you wonder how it would be like if america was split up lol
03:35 <flex> instead of being a bunch of states
03:35 <StickyNoob> well califonia would be laughing
03:36 <flex> lol how so
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03:38 <StickyNoob> if they were a country they could be in the G8
03:38 <flex> speaking of eu - are we eveer going to change to the euro..
03:38 <StickyNoob> well probably not quite but close
03:38 <flex> i assumed we'd have a major publicity jump about now..
03:39 <StickyNoob> CA is 17% of US's GDP
03:39 <StickyNoob> hmm not sure if thaat will hapen soon
03:39 <flex> right now it's all silent.. i guess the currency was doing so well nobody wanted to complain
03:40 <flex> the euro is catching up to the pound.. i think we should change as soon as it jumps it :p
03:40 <flex> but i'm no banker
03:40 <StickyNoob> actualy no CA alone would get into the G8
03:42 <StickyNoob> the Euro is doing well but changing is more about national pride than economics
03:42 <flex> the currency is already looking like the euro..
03:44 <flex> i'm kind of wondering what this national pride is lol, does that even exist in the uk anymore? :p
03:45 <StickyNoob> and you are entering the Army?
03:45 <flex> haha
03:46 <flex> i'm patriotic!
03:46 <StickyNoob> oh dear
03:47 <StickyNoob> "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it."
03:47 <flex> I was actually speaking specifically about the nationalism in the uk in recent times
03:48 <flex> not quite..
03:48 <StickyNoob> there has always been nationalism
03:48 <flex> all time low in the uk..
03:49 <flex> devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.. i'm all for that.. that don't make me patriotic?
03:49 <flex> i assume you're for it too :p
03:49 <StickyNoob> do you think there should or shouldnt be nationalism?
03:49 <flex> of course there should..
03:49 <StickyNoob> I am totaly against it
03:49 <flex> why?
03:50 <flex> the lack of nationalim can destroy a nation..
03:50 <flex> you've got to have it..
03:50 <StickyNoob> no
03:51 <flex> i'm not agreeing to extreme nationalism..
03:51 <flex> i just agree partly to it.. i'm all for the euro
03:52 <StickyNoob> how far would you take it then? Control imigration?
03:52 <flex> but i do beleive there should be a joint interest and support for the country you live and "use"
03:52 <flex> that's as far as i go
03:52 <StickyNoob> teach brittishness in schools?
03:53 <flex> i'm not in for extreme nationalism so no..
03:53 <flex> teaching people in school to respect ones country isn't actually "britishness" is it?
03:53 <StickyNoob> not realy
03:54 <flex> if you live in the UK and you don't like the UK why would that be fine?
03:55 <StickyNoob> that was in agreement that is is not right
03:55 <flex> well that would be nationalism?
03:55 <StickyNoob> should loyalty to the Queen be a requirement?
03:55 <flex> at this day and age.. it's kind of redundant now..
03:56 <flex> the queen is part of the country for me personally, so i'm fine with agreeing to my terms in the army as "for queen and country"
03:56 <flex> unless there's more to it?
03:57 <StickyNoob> this is the problem, you say nationalism is a good thing but everyones idea of what the core parts of our culture is differs
03:58 <flex> yeah i guess so, maybe i don't fully know what i'm agreeing to when i talk about nationalism.. but i'm totally against extreme nationalism..
03:59 <flex> if that makes sense
03:59 <StickyNoob> yeah taking it to BNP levels is just totaly stupid
04:01 <StickyNoob> i can see there are valid arguments for trying to protect certain values such as democracy, secularism etc that are core parts of the culture, but they are strong enough they dont need to be protected
04:01 <flex> nationalism was a key factor in what kept the british moral high during the war right?
04:02 <StickyNoob> yes war time propoganda was important
04:02 <flex> at that time it wasn't really an issue with individual stuff, it was a national issue.. if it wasn't there it would of failed
04:03 <flex> you can't have everyone souly caring about themselves, if that was the case britain would of failed..
04:03 <flex> it's pretty much the same now.. but it ain't war time
04:04 <flex> support your team, for what reason I dunno..
04:05 <StickyNoob> right bed
04:05 <StickyNoob> nn
04:05 <flex> gn
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11:05 <Phlogistique> hey
11:06 <Phlogistique> in the source given he download pagein t
11:06 <Phlogistique> *in the download page
11:06 <Phlogistique> the dedicated server does not seem to be included
11:07 <z-man-work> compile it with ./configure --disable-glout.
11:07 <Phlogistique> k, thanks
11:12 <Phlogistique> to me the dedicated server sounded more like an "enable" than a "disable"
11:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8012 /private/z-man/clio/tests/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added (failing) test against various crashes.
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11:40 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
11:40 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 304th with a rating of 1559-1605 (from 1556-1609)
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11:50 <Phlogistique> I compiled with --disable-glout and got a full featured armagetron binary oO
11:50 <Phlogistique> armagetronad-dedicated launches the game
11:51 <wrtlprnft> try make clean && make
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11:54 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
11:54 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 310th with a rating of 1557-1607 (from 1559-1605)
11:54 <luke-jr> Phlogistique: dedicated server is a disable because the full client has all the features it does, plus the client ;)
11:55 <Phlogistique> luke-jr: but how do i launch a server in background with the client ?
11:57 <luke-jr> Phlogistique: can't do that, I think
11:58 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr is wrong, as usual
11:59 <wrtlprnft> the server does have additional featuresy
11:59 <wrtlprnft> can't have armathentication, /team messages and that stuff on a hybrid server
12:09 <luke-jr> oh?
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12:15 <Phlogistique> yay, it works
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13:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8013 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 3 dirs): First crash test now passes. Second test, reference to inner integers, fails.
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16:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8014 /private/z-man/clio/ (16 files in 4 dirs): Intermediate commit with lots of broken stuff. Need to work on a sane way to check which object contains which other one.
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16:33 <K-Yo> yo
16:34 <wrtlprnft> oy
16:34 <luke-jr> oi!
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16:39 <K-Yo> can I copy my settings from settings.cfg (in windows) to use it in linux?
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16:41 <K-Yo> hi again
16:41 <K-Yo> seems that arma makes my system crash :(
16:41  * K-Yo is a noob.
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16:55 <epsy> #tea
16:55 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:57 <wrtlprnft> wasn't bugfarm/cvs test known for its surpreme lag?
16:58 <epsy> that's what i think about it
16:58 <wrtlprnft> the thing is, it's a university's connection. It's hard to use any significant part of it while playing arma, so it doesn't lag a lot more with many players
16:59 <epsy> well, some noticed that lag could go really worse once a certain number of zones are present
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17:16 <wrtlprnft> epsy:     glBlendFunc( GL_SRC_ALPHA, GL_ONE );
17:16 <wrtlprnft> they are sort of added
17:17 <wrtlprnft> basically it's (alpha of the zone color) * zone color + old color
17:18 <wrtlprnft> really adding would be GL_ONE, GL_ONE
17:19 <epsy> that way of blending colors isn't very realistic :/
17:21 <wrtlprnft> epsy: better than the alternative
17:21 <epsy> which is?
17:21 <wrtlprnft> note that the zone segments do intersect each other a lot
17:22 <wrtlprnft> anyways, it would end up being some brownish hue
17:23 <wrtlprnft> with “real” GL_SRC_ALPHA, GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA blending
17:25 <wrtlprnft> note that the entire zone rendering thing is a total hack at the moment
17:25 <wrtlprnft> zones are drawn last, without writing to the depth buffer
17:26 <epsy> considering most of it is under some gWinZone, file, i guessed so :P
17:29 <wrtlprnft> less hacky than v2 zone rendering, though
17:29 <epsy> huuh
17:29 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/screenshot_3.png
17:29 <wrtlprnft> with alpha_blend 0
17:29 <wrtlprnft> depth buffer writing is still disabled
17:30 <wrtlprnft> and it's not wireframe
17:30 <epsy> e<
17:30 <epsy> ew*
17:30 <K-Yo> where can I find armagetron 0.3? i've just installed it from the rpm package
17:31 <epsy> 0.3 is outdated
17:31 <wrtlprnft> epsy: 0.3.0 is
17:31 <epsy> 0
17:31 <epsy> 0.3.1 isn't out is it?
17:31 <wrtlprnft> 0.3 is the current development version, maybe leading to a 0.3.1 somewhere soon
17:31 <epsy> K-Yo, get trunk from svn
17:31 <K-Yo> ok
17:31 <K-Yo> how?
17:32 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i think he was talking about the 0.3.0 release make...months ago
17:32 <epsy> #svn
17:32 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
17:32 <K-Yo> i don't understand all the make, make install ...
17:32 <epsy> K-Yo, cat INSTALL
17:32 <K-Yo> thx i'll try
17:32 <K-Yo> cat?
17:32 <wrtlprnft> ./bootstrap.sh && ./configure && make run
17:32 <wrtlprnft> is all you really need
17:32 <epsy> outputs the contents of the give file
17:32 <epsy> given*
17:38 <K-Yo> i have bootstrap and the config repertory
17:39 <K-Yo> I have no clue what to do
17:39 <epsy> cat INSTALL
17:39 <epsy> :)
17:40 <K-Yo> on a terminal?
17:40 <epsy> no, write it on a paper :«
17:40 <K-Yo> ok :D
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17:41 <epsy> O_o
17:41 <K-Yo> cat: INSTALL: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
17:41 <K-Yo> :(
17:41 <epsy> cd in the dir where you checkout'd the svn repo
17:41 <epsy> cd where/i/put/arma/
17:42 <K-Yo> i did in in the dir where i put bootstrap
17:42 <epsy> er
17:42 <epsy> cat README maybe
17:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8015 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Fixed references to nested class properties.
17:42 <K-Yo> in the dir, there is only: bootstrap and the dir config
17:43 <K-Yo> should I dl everything in https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/?
17:43 <epsy> what? O_o
17:43 <epsy> just run your svn client
17:43 <epsy> like that:
17:43 <epsy> #svn
17:43 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
17:44 <K-Yo> how? I type #svn in terminal?
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17:45 <epsy> no; that was a cmd to armabot, better look at what armabot told you to do :P
17:46 <K-Yo> ok, then I type:
17:46 <K-Yo> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
17:46 <epsy> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <the dir where you want it to be>
17:46 <K-Yo> ok
17:47 <K-Yo> it's doing it :D
17:47 <K-Yo> then I do cd <dir> then cat INSTALL
17:47 <ct|kyle> oh knows K-Yo compiling tron
17:47 <K-Yo> doesn't work
17:47 <K-Yo> cat: INSTALL: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
17:47 <ct|kyle> K-Yo: ./bootstrap.sh
17:47 <K-Yo> :P
17:47 <ct|kyle> ./configure
17:48 <ct|kyle> then make && make install
17:48 <ct|kyle> :D
17:48 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ sudo ./bootstrap.sh
17:48 <K-Yo> sudo: ./bootstrap.sh: command not found
17:48 <ct|kyle> did you cd to the directory?
17:48 <K-Yo> eer
17:48 <K-Yo> yes
17:49 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ ./bootstrap.sh
17:49 <K-Yo> bash: ./bootstrap.sh: Permission non accordée
17:49 <K-Yo> #t fr en Permission non accordée
17:49 <armabot> K-Yo: Permission not accordée
17:49 <epsy> K-Yo, fais un ls stp
17:49 <K-Yo> ls tout court?
17:49 <ct|kyle> cd armagetronad
17:49 <epsy> oui
17:50 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ ls
17:50 <K-Yo> AUTHORS  batch  bootstrap.sh  config  config.html  language  textures
17:50 <epsy> is that all?
17:50 <K-Yo> indeed
17:50 <epsy> does bootstrap appear colored?
17:50 <ct|kyle> gttg
17:50 <K-Yo> no
17:50 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8016 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion_extended.hpp enum.cpp enum.hpp): Marked some internally wrapped functions as non-breaking.
17:50 <K-Yo> only batch, config, language and textures
17:51 <epsy> did you hit crtl-c while svn was running ?
17:51 <K-Yo> maybe not running
17:51 <epsy> svn up
17:51 <K-Yo> but i do it sometimes,
17:52 <epsy> dont do it in a term
17:52 <epsy> it stops the current process
17:52 <K-Yo> ok
17:52 <epsy> if you want to copy stuff from a term, just select it and paste with middle click
17:53 <K-Yo> niiice
17:53 <K-Yo> that rocks
17:53 <epsy> that works on most apps
17:53 <K-Yo> good thing
17:53 <K-Yo> ok, i emptied my dir and did svn up
17:53 <K-Yo> still running
17:54 <K-Yo> done
17:54 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ ./bootstrap.sh
17:54 <K-Yo> Generating version...
17:54 <K-Yo> Running aclocal...
17:54 <K-Yo> ./bootstrap.sh: 15: aclocal: not found
17:54 <K-Yo> rm: ne peut enlever `aclocal.m4': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
17:55 <epsy> you're on ubuntu right?
17:55 <K-Yo> yep
17:55 <K-Yo> gusty
17:55 <epsy> sudo apt-get build-essential
17:55 <epsy> er
17:55 <epsy> sudo apt-get install build-essential
17:55 <K-Yo> build-essential est déjà la plus récente version disponible.
17:56 <epsy> sudo apt-get install autotools
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17:57 <ct|kyle> ruby too
17:57 <ct|kyle> royobably
17:57 <K-Yo> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet autotools
17:57 <ct|kyle> probably*
17:57 <epsy> ruby is disabled by defalt in arma
17:57 <epsy> ptin ils fontchier
17:57 <epsy> sudo apt-get install autoconf
17:57 <ct|kyle> orly needs it for the build i've been using
17:58 <epsy> ct|kyle, what build?
17:58 <K-Yo> Paramétrage de autoconf (2.61-4) ...
17:58 <K-Yo> c fait ca
17:58 <ct|kyle> trunk revision 7224
17:58 <epsy> ui ui
17:58 <epsy> ct|kyle, svn up, rofl
17:58 <ct|kyle> isent that broken with Zone V2?
17:58 <K-Yo> i'm installing 8016 (if it works ;p)
17:58 <epsy> no
17:59 <ct|kyle> ah
17:59 <epsy> @ kyle
17:59 <ct|kyle> gtg
17:59 <K-Yo> cu
18:01 <K-Yo> epsy: brb, je vais acheter du pain
18:01 <epsy> de la baguette?
18:01 <epsy> :D
18:02 <epsy> Changes since 0.2.8
18:02 <epsy> - New team join menu (colored, shows number of players per team)
18:02 <epsy> huh?
18:02 <K-Yo> baguette ftw! that is so damn frenchy :P
18:03 <luke-jr> K-Yo: surely you're not expecting trunk to actually work stable?
18:03 <K-Yo> i'm expecting armagetron to work on linux :P
18:04 <K-Yo> and I used some highly experimental versions on windows without problems ;)
18:04 <K-Yo> brb really now ^
18:04 <K-Yo> ^^
18:12 <wrtlprnft> epsy: yeah, it's there…
18:12 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: so you're using XP? Highly experimental version…
18:13 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: i was using vista
18:13 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it'S just color-filtered on client visual put not on console ? :P
18:13 <K-Yo> i'm right now on ubuntu
18:13 <K-Yo> and tries to install svn stuff
18:14  * epsy is starting to wonder about what he just wrote O_o
18:14  * wrtlprnft , too
18:14 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't make any sence
18:14 <epsy> let's try again
18:14 <K-Yo> :p
18:15 <epsy> wrtlprnft, is it that it's color-filtered to be displayed on screen but let as-is to client console ? :P
18:16 <wrtlprnft> it's talking about esc->team menu
18:16 <wrtlprnft> not the /team command
18:16 <wrtlprnft> and it's a change in 0.3
18:16 <epsy> i never seen colors in the team join menu :S
18:16 <wrtlprnft> well, the numbers are there
18:16 <wrtlprnft> don't ask me about the colors
18:18 <K-Yo> so, do you have any idea about this problem?
18:18 <epsy> wrtlprnft, oh, it's just the traduction
18:18  * epsy slaps the responsible, K-Yo :D
18:18 <wrtlprnft> what problem?
18:19 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ ./bootstrap.sh
18:19 <K-Yo> Generating version...
18:19 <K-Yo> Running aclocal...
18:19 <K-Yo> ./bootstrap.sh: 15: aclocal: not found
18:19 <K-Yo> rm: ne peut enlever `aclocal.m4': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
18:19 <wrtlprnft> err, install the autotools?
18:19 <K-Yo> hehe
18:19 <wrtlprnft> at least i'm guessing
18:19 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ sudo apt-get install autotools
18:19 <K-Yo> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
18:19 <K-Yo> Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
18:19 <K-Yo> Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
18:19 <K-Yo> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet autotools
18:19  * wrtlprnft almost failed grade 10 because of french
18:19 <wrtlprnft> automake maybe?
18:19 <epsy> did you try autoconf?
18:19 <K-Yo> he can't find the package autotools
18:19 <wrtlprnft> auto*something*
18:19 <epsy> he ? :D
18:20 <wrtlprnft> it's named automake on gentoo
18:20 <wrtlprnft> the package, that is
18:20 <K-Yo> autoconf already installed
18:20 <K-Yo> i'm installing automake right now
18:20 <K-Yo> done
18:20 <K-Yo> ah working :D
18:20 <wrtlprnft> probably need to install a couple of other things, too
18:20 <K-Yo> Done!  You may now run configure and start building.
18:21 <wrtlprnft> ./configure ;-)
18:21 <K-Yo>  error: We could not detect the boost libraries (version 1.33 or higher)
18:21 <wrtlprnft> well
18:21 <K-Yo> (he made things before)
18:21 <epsy> arma uses boost now? O_o
18:21 <wrtlprnft> install boost or boost-dev or whatever *ubuntu has
18:22 <K-Yo> i'll search in synaptic
18:22 <epsy> $ ./configure ;-)
18:22 <epsy> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
18:22 <epsy> K-Yo, apt-cache search %s
18:22 <wrtlprnft> zsh: parse error near `)'
18:22 <epsy> :P
18:22 <K-Yo> libboost?
18:22 <epsy> yes
18:22 <wrtlprnft> we're still wondering whether the couple of things we're using it for are worth the huge dependency
18:22 <epsy> with it's -dev companion i presume
18:23 <K-Yo> done
18:23 <K-Yo> ./configure: line 12027: sdl-config: command not found
18:23 <K-Yo> checking for SDL_Init... no
18:23 <K-Yo> configure: error: You need the library SDL to compile Armagetron. Read the file doc/install_linux.html.
18:23  * epsy wonders how crap the authority-blurb standard will go
18:24 <epsy> if we can even call that a standard
18:24 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:24 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: well, guess what
18:24 <wrtlprnft> install sdl-dev?
18:24 <epsy> K-Yo, apt-get sdl-dev
18:24 <K-Yo> install sdl?
18:24 <K-Yo> :D
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18:24  * epsy forgets each time about the install keyword
18:24 <wrtlprnft> that's the usual buisness with configure
18:25 <wrtlprnft> run, install what it complains about, goto 0
18:25 <epsy> wrtlprnft,  r7919 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-02-14 14:03:13 +0100 (Thu, 14 Feb 2008) | 2 lines
18:25 <epsy>  
18:25 <epsy>  Manuel Moos: Added support for authority "blurb" messages. Authorities can append lines to the "PASSWORD_OK" response, and those lines will be transformed and logged in ladderlog.txt.
18:26 <K-Yo> libsdl1.2-dev ?
18:26 <wrtlprnft> sounds like a huge amount of fun, epsy 
18:26 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: sure
18:26 <epsy> / A useful blurb example would be a line containing:        // ALIAS oldusername@oldauthority        // It would get logged as         // AUTHORITY_BLURB_ALIAS user@authority oldusername@oldauthority        // and nice ladder log parsing scripts can choose to believe your        // authority and assume user@authority and oldusername@oldauthority        // are the same person. It is a matter between ladderlog parser writers        // a
18:26 <epsy> nd authority implementers to define more useful standard blurb messages.
18:26  * epsy did better link it from websvn..bah
18:28  * wrtlprnft thinks there should be a separate way to request aliases from authorities
18:28 <z-man-work> Penguins. People can’t seem to get enough of this flightless bird. For example Spaced Penguin, Club Penguin and Yeti Sports. If your game is boring add more penguins or another lovable member of the animal kingdom… it’s worked for Orisinal.
18:29 <epsy> so true
18:29 <K-Yo> Warning: GLEW library (http://glew.sourceforge.net/) not found or not functional. Advanced graphics effects will be disabled. Ok, we don't have that many of them anyway, so this waring is safe to ignore for now.
18:29 <wrtlprnft> if you want to know the alias of player a@A you ask A for aliases of a and for every reply b@B you get you ask B and see if that server thinks b@B == a@A, too
18:29 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: so, when will we have a flying penguin in arma?
18:30 <epsy> i agree, but isn't it already too slow currently?
18:30 <wrtlprnft> sort of like the Recognizer in the movie
18:30 <epsy> thought about that too lol
18:30 <wrtlprnft> epsy: are you talking about armathentication or penguins?
18:30 <epsy> armathentication
18:31 <epsy> then penguins :«
18:31 <wrtlprnft> well, the second request would be the job of the parser script
18:32 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: why do you want the AUTHORITY_BLURB message to be part of the PASSWORD_OK response? Why not the resonse that contains the salt? that way you could get the list of aliases without the need to log into the account
18:32 <z-man-work> Hmm
18:33 <z-man-work> Because on the first request, there isn't yet a username.
18:34 <epsy> well, i personally think sending the (real) username back to the client could be useful
18:34 <z-man-work> And the double authentication of aliases won't work in all situations.
18:34 <z-man-work> For example, if the reason for an armathority rename is that the ownership of the old domain was lost.
18:35 <z-man-work> epsy: but when you login, there is not yet a username.
18:35 <z-man-work> The generic proces is:
18:35 <z-man-work> client sends server authority
18:36 <z-man-work> server asks authority about supported methods
18:36 <z-man-work> server asks client to authenticate
18:36 <z-man-work> client sends user name and password hash
18:36 <epsy> oh
18:36 <z-man-work> Only the new clients CAN send the username right with the first request.
18:37 <z-man-work> And the way I see it, blurbs without authentication will not be useful at all.
18:37 <z-man-work> "Oh, user x@y would be known as a@b, but unfortunately, this user here is not x@y"
18:38 <z-man-work> "x@y should get admin rights automatically if you trust authority y. Oh wait, never mind, this is not x@y".
18:38 <K-Yo> ../ylwrap: line 110: yacc : commande introuvable
18:38 <z-man-work> install yacc?
18:38 <luke-jr> K-Yo: install BISON
18:38 <luke-jr> z-man-work: yacc doesn't support C++
18:39 <luke-jr> and automake doesn't understand that requirement
18:39 <z-man-work> then why do we call it as yacc?
18:39 <luke-jr> automake picks yacc || yacc-compatible
18:39 <luke-jr> afaik, there's no way to have to detect yacc-C++-compatible
18:39 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: well, lost domains are bad. ladder parser scripts would obviously cache established connections between identities
18:39 <K-Yo> thx luke-jr ;)
18:40 <z-man-work> luke-jr: feed it some example C++ and watch it fail? :)
18:40 <K-Yo> /bin/mkdir: ne peut créer le répertoire `/usr/local/share/doc': Permission non accordée
18:40 <epsy> sudo make install
18:40 <K-Yo> that's what I didi
18:40 <epsy> ;)
18:41 <K-Yo> ah no
18:41 <epsy> orly?
18:41 <K-Yo> sry :p
18:41 <K-Yo> done
18:41 <epsy> K-Yo, which armagetronad
18:41 <epsy> be sure it will be going to run the right one
18:41 <luke-jr> K-Yo: who said to make install?
18:41 <luke-jr> K-Yo: IIRC, wrtlprnft said make run
18:42 <K-Yo> (18:41:35) epsy: sudo make install
18:42 <luke-jr> bad epsy
18:42 <K-Yo> i did it already
18:42 <K-Yo> is it bad?
18:42 <luke-jr> K-Yo: yeah
18:42 <luke-jr> could be worse tho
18:42 <epsy> make me bad
18:42 <luke-jr> K-Yo: make uninstall should undo it
18:42 <luke-jr> if it works
18:42 <luke-jr> definately be sure to make uninstall before updating from svn
18:43 <epsy> ok luke-jr seems to be against installing stuff
18:43 <epsy> :«
18:43 <K-Yo> what does it change?
18:43 <luke-jr> epsy: no, only copying files randomly around your system without a proper package to install
18:43 <epsy> jeez
18:44 <K-Yo> can I have a shortcut on my desktop instead of doing make run everytime i want to play?
18:44 <luke-jr> K-Yo: when you ran it, it told you everything it changed
18:44 <epsy> it's just a PC, with like 250GB harddrive space
18:44 <luke-jr> K-Yo: sure, make a shortcut that runs make run
18:44 <epsy> if he did make install there would be .desktop files
18:45 <epsy> installed at the right places
18:45 <luke-jr> epsy: and far too easy to accidentally leave clutter
18:45 <epsy> anyway, on a proper install, everything done outside a package manager is installed to /usr/local/
18:45 <epsy> with proper software, of course
18:46 <epsy> now luke will argue arma isn't a proper software :þ
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18:48 <epsy> #lastseen k-yo
18:48 <armabot> epsy: cT¤K-Yo has last been seen on ¦×¦.Sumo.Server 1 hour 58 minutes ago.
18:50 <K-Yo> i'm coming
18:50 <K-Yo> what server?
18:50 <K-Yo> .tea
18:50 <K-Yo> #tea
18:50 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): +tinYcow+, CT׶4, error, Kriki, ¦×¦epsy
18:51 <luke-jr> epsy: by your definition, nope
18:51 <luke-jr> epsy: Arma will put stuff outside /usr/local
18:51 <luke-jr> by default
18:51 <wrtlprnft> just use make run or ./configure --prefix /home/somewhere/armasvn; make install
18:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: Arma will still put stuff outside the prefix ;)
18:52 <wrtlprnft> and ignore the warnings about it failing to install stuff into /etc or dig out the correct flag to disable that
18:52 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: not if you install it as normal user
18:52 <wrtlprnft> it'll try, though, but who cares?
18:52 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: true
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18:52 <luke-jr> in that case you need make install -ik
18:53 <luke-jr> otherwise a failed copy will abort the whole process
18:53 <wrtlprnft> err
18:53 <wrtlprnft> i never noticed that
18:53 <wrtlprnft> and i've done it a lot
18:53 <luke-jr> lol
18:53 <luke-jr> maybe it installs those last or something
18:56 <wrtlprnft> Warning: unable to install start script symlinks in /etc/init.d, it's not writable.
18:56 <wrtlprnft> doesn't sound like an error to me
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19:00 <K-Yo> luke-jr: i played
19:00 <K-Yo> i like the clock
19:01 <K-Yo> screen resolution = desktop is coool
19:02 <K-Yo> i'm not fond of the grid on the minimap
19:04 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: it's all mostly demonstrating the capabilities of the new moviepack stuff
19:05 <K-Yo> ok
19:05 <K-Yo> it won't be in final realease by default?
19:05 <K-Yo> "final"
19:05 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: feel free to make a new moviepack or just change the textures in ~/.armagetronad/resource/atomatic/wrtlprnft
19:05 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: not sure yet
19:06 <wrtlprnft> we need someone more artistic
19:06 <luke-jr> (copy it out of automatic if you want to keep it tho)
19:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nothing deletes it from there
19:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: yet?
19:08 <wrtlprnft> well, it's all subject to change, anyways
19:08 <K-Yo> i'm not very artistic
19:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: outside of automatic, nothing should be deleted
19:08 <wrtlprnft> if i increase the version of the textures his won't be used anymore
19:08 <wrtlprnft> same effect as being deleted
19:08 <K-Yo> is it normal that compiz makes fullscreen arma crashes?
19:09 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: except that deleted = he can't recover the files anymore
19:09  * wrtlprnft doesn't use compiz
19:09 <wrtlprnft> well, replacing some image by 50% alpha isn't excactly rocket science
19:09 <wrtlprnft> and changes are the version's going to be increased long before they get deleted
19:13 <wrtlprnft> *chances
19:14 <K-Yo> where can I get my instants back from windows?
19:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8017 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Fixed memory access error, proxies were not broken on time.
19:15 <K-Yo> and server bookmarks, and commands and cam settings...
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19:18 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: copy your user.cfg
19:18 <wrtlprnft> or user_3_0.cfg or whatever
19:18 <K-Yo> i can't find it :(
19:19 <wrtlprnft> documents and settings/<username>/application data/Armagetron/var/user*.cfg
19:19 <wrtlprnft> I HATE WINOWS' F** LONG DIR NAMES!
19:19 <K-Yo> haha
19:19 <K-Yo> thanks
19:20 <wrtlprnft> if you use make run copy it to var/user_3_1.cfg
19:20 <wrtlprnft> if you installed it copy it to ~/.armagetronad/var/user_3_1.cfg
19:20 <wrtlprnft> note the short paths
19:21 <wrtlprnft> and the lack of spaces
19:21 <wrtlprnft> and the consistent lowercalse spelling
19:21 <K-Yo> in linux?
19:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:21 <wrtlprnft> *lowercase
19:21 <K-Yo> indeed
19:28 <K-Yo> i can't find the path either on linux
19:29 <wrtlprnft> documents and settings/<username>/application data/Armagetron/var/user.cfg (or user_3_0.cfg) is the windows path
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19:30 <wrtlprnft> if you use make run to start arma you need to copy it to var/user_3_1.cfg in the same dir you execute make run from
19:30 <wrtlprnft> if you used make install and now start arma the regular way you need to put it to ~/.armagetronad/var/user_3_1.cfg
19:30 <wrtlprnft> (note that the paths on windows are f**ing language dependent)
19:31 <wrtlprnft> in german it's dokumente und einstellungen/<user>/anwendungsdaten (which is even longer)
19:31 <K-Yo> haha
19:32 <wrtlprnft> documents et configuration/<user>/data des applications maybe? as i said, my french really sucks.
19:33 <K-Yo> eeer
19:33 <K-Yo> Documents and settings stays in english i think
19:33 <K-Yo> (note that in vista it's not the same)
19:33 <K-Yo> no we keep application data and program files too
19:33  * wrtlprnft was talking about XP
19:33 <wrtlprnft> no way to get me to even touch vista
19:33  * K-Yo noticed
19:34 <K-Yo> on vista it's users/<user>/bla bla bla
19:34 <wrtlprnft> wow
19:34 <K-Yo> shorter :D
19:34 <wrtlprnft> that sounds reasonable
19:34 <wrtlprnft> bbl, food
19:35 <K-Yo> bon appetit
19:36 <xfroggy> epsy stop fucking abusing power in cafe
19:36 <K-Yo> .kick epsy
19:36 <xfroggy> epsy go fuck urself
19:37 <xfroggy> fucking queer
19:37 <xfroggy> wrtlprnft, epsy queer abuses power
19:40 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft is making me food, stfu
19:40 <xfroggy> LOL
19:40 <xfroggy> epsy go fuck urself
19:40 <xfroggy> there's a silence menu
19:41 <xfroggy> got fucking cocky when u got admin powers piece of shit
19:41 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: here is my var data on vista: Users/K-Yo/AppData/Roaming/Armagetron/var
19:41 <xfroggy> there's a fuckign silence menu, don't like it use it  & stfu
19:41 <xfroggy> queer shit
19:42 <epsy> when are you gonna stop insulting me
19:42 <xfroggy> fags like u never
19:42 <epsy> dk off
19:43 <xfroggy> there's a reason queers like u shouldn't have admin powers :-)
19:44 <epsy> what does that smiley mean?
19:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8018 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Ok, repaired crash test again, and avoided a garbage collector race condition.
19:44 <epsy> « im laughing at ur head off » ?
19:44 <epsy> ...
19:47 <StickyNoob> epsy, xfroggy wtf started you guys off
19:49 <xfroggy> StickyNoob, epsy got pissed off there are no French Super Hero's :'(
19:49 <epsy> o that was funny
19:49 <flex> yes there is...
19:50 <epsy> they kept ripping me off...
19:50 <xfroggy> so epsy received a PMS and decided to become one and used his admin powers to kick me off public server :'(
19:51 <xfroggy> obviously café ain't public server anymore, it's epsy's
19:51 <flex> Cosmo is french..
19:51 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: never learned to use tab completion?
19:51 <luke-jr> [12:20:17] <wrtlprnft> I HATE WINOWS' F⁑ LONG DIR NAMES!
19:51 <xfroggy> flex, cosmo coctail drink? O.o
19:51 <epsy> seriousely i'm starting to think about rethinking about being 'cool' with ppl etc...here it leads me....
19:52 <epsy> so
19:52 <flex> http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/cosmo.htm
19:52 <epsy> either i go smurf i dont talk and shit
19:52 <xfroggy> hahaha he looks like a fag
19:52 <epsy> either i don't and do the same
19:52 <epsy> what do you prefer..
19:52 <luke-jr> epsy is a queer⁈
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19:53 <luke-jr> epsy: is it true⁈
19:53 <xfroggy> lmao
19:53 <epsy> ask him
19:53 <StickyNoob> #flipacoin is epsy queer
19:53 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf?
19:53 <StickyNoob> #8ball is epsy queer
19:53 <luke-jr> ask someone else if you are queer?
19:54 <StickyNoob> dam bot has no features
19:54 <luke-jr> lol
19:54 <luke-jr> #list games
19:54 <armabot> luke-jr: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
19:54 <epsy> it's hom who is deciding what i am today it seems
19:54 <StickyNoob> #eightball is epsy queer
19:54 <luke-jr> #eightball is epsy queer?
19:54 <armabot> StickyNoob: I doubt it very much.
19:54 <armabot> luke-jr: No clue.
19:54 <luke-jr> #eightball is epsy queer?
19:54 <armabot> luke-jr: No clue.
19:54 <luke-jr> #eightball f u
19:54 <armabot> luke-jr: One would be wise to think so.
19:54 <xfroggy> LOL
19:55 <StickyNoob> #roulette
19:55 <armabot> StickyNoob: *click*
19:55 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: try that in !jesus
19:55 <luke-jr> err
19:55 <luke-jr> #jesus
19:55 <armabot> luke-jr: (jesus <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo Jesus thinks $1 is a jerk.".
19:55 <luke-jr> armabot: I wasn't talking to you
19:55 <luke-jr> #markov StickyNoob:
19:55 <K-Yo> #jesus luke-jr
19:55 <armabot> Jesus thinks luke-jr is a jerk.
19:56 <flex> hahha
19:56 <StickyNoob> markov?
19:56 <luke-jr> #markov K-Yo:
19:56 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: fix it ☹
19:56 <xfroggy> epsy, next time you having PMS you might want to consider getting tampax & go to the bathroom instead of kicking people for no reason ^^
19:56 <StickyNoob> #jesus evolution is a fact and that god
19:56 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: angelBot in #jesus works :D
19:56 <armabot> Jesus thinks evolution is a fact and that god is a jerk.
19:56 <K-Yo> (lol)
19:56 <xfroggy> ...
19:57 <luke-jr> xfroggy: guys get UMS not PMS
19:57 <xfroggy> I doubt epsy gets into category of a guy
19:57 <luke-jr> lol
19:58 <flex> someones abit sad they got kicked from cafe? :p
19:58 <xfroggy> nah...the reason is funny >:D
19:58 <xfroggy> kicking cuz French have no superheros :D
19:59 <Hoax-> epsy u being a badmin in cafe? shame on you LOL
19:59 <flex> french do have good superheros..
19:59 <flex> but most of them surrended..
19:59 <xfroggy> flex, cosmo is as much of a fag as is epsy
19:59 <flex> lol jk..
20:01 <K-Yo> cosmo? this big thing in the sky?
20:01 <Hoax-> epsy, freako was just saying how much he <3's you
20:01 <xfroggy> LOL
20:01 <flex> http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/f/french.htm
20:02 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: tell me how tab completion works in windows explorer
20:02 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: who cares?
20:02 <wrtlprnft> you're not asking me to use win32's command line, right?
20:03 <wrtlprnft> what good is zsh's/konqueror's tab completion if you're on windows?
20:03 <K-Yo> haha, hiroshiman
20:04 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what retard would use windows? :D
20:05 <wrtlprnft> xfroggy: you talking about that SUSPEND UnReAl?
20:05 <luke-jr> [03:54:01] <angelBot> And God said: It is not a valid command.
20:06 <K-Yo> in what kind of chans ur hanging luke-jr? o_O
20:06 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: sweet
20:06 <luke-jr> K-Yo: #jesus
20:06 <K-Yo> ;)
20:06 <K-Yo> saw taht
20:06 <luke-jr> StickyNoob just got autobanned for swearing
20:06 <StickyNoob> heh
20:07 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: shouldn't there be a message on stdout saying something like <user> used /admin <command>? Would you mind if I added that?
20:07 <StickyNoob> look i was interested about the biblical significance of donkeys in the bible
20:07 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: sure, go ahead, can't hurt.
20:08 <wrtlprnft> ok
20:08 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?
20:09 <flex> wrtlprnft: what retard would use windows? :D fu! :p
20:09 <K-Yo> #quote add (20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?
20:09 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:09 <K-Yo> ah yeah
20:09 <K-Yo> .register
20:09 <K-Yo> #register
20:10 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:10 <K-Yo> forget it
20:10 <wrtlprnft> /msg armabot register <nick> <pass>?
20:10 <StickyNoob> my world is over now im banned from #jesus
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20:11 <flex> that might suck..
20:11 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: actually you just got unbanned
20:11 <StickyNoob> heh
20:12 <StickyNoob> hmm #atheist is fairly quite by comparison
20:13 <luke-jr> that makes no sense
20:13 <StickyNoob> hmm im first in #agnostic
20:14 <K-Yo> #identify
20:14 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:14 <K-Yo> #quote add (20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?
20:14 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.  Quote #70 added.
20:14 <K-Yo> :D
20:14 <K-Yo> #quote get 70
20:14 <armabot> K-Yo: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
20:15 <luke-jr> [13:10:54] <K-Yo> forget it
20:15 <luke-jr> liar
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20:16 <K-Yo> Indeed!
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20:17 <acieroid> hello
20:17 <K-Yo> hii
20:17 <K-Yo> do we know you?
20:18 <acieroid> no :p
20:18 <K-Yo> #kick acieroid
20:18 <armabot> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:18 <K-Yo> oooh :(
20:18 <K-Yo> hi then
20:18 <K-Yo> ;)
20:18 <acieroid> I want to change some options in the console of armagetronad, but i can't :x
20:18 <K-Yo> what?
20:18 <K-Yo> maybe I can help :D
20:19 <acieroid> I type "CYCLE_RUBBER 15" in example
20:19  * K-Yo wishes he could
20:19 <K-Yo> yes
20:19 <acieroid> but that doesn't do anything
20:19 <K-Yo> when do you type it?
20:19 <K-Yo> on a local game?
20:19 <K-Yo> on a dedicated server?
20:19 <acieroid> dedicated
20:19 <K-Yo> you are logged in?
20:19 <acieroid> i think
20:19 <acieroid> i've set admin_pass
20:20 <K-Yo> then, u try the command ingame?
20:20 <acieroid> admin_pass ?
20:20 <K-Yo> no
20:20 <acieroid> yes
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20:20 <K-Yo> type /login <ur admin pass>
20:20 <K-Yo> ingame
20:20 <K-Yo> then once ur identified
20:20 <K-Yo> type /admin <your command>
20:21 <K-Yo> type /admin <your command> <parameters>
20:21 <acieroid> it doesn't know the login command
20:21 <K-Yo> oh
20:21 <epsy> type it in chat
20:21 <K-Yo> not in commanf
20:21 <K-Yo> yes
20:21 <K-Yo> in chat
20:21 <acieroid> ah, ok
20:21 <K-Yo> sry ><
20:21 <acieroid> yeah \o/
20:22 <K-Yo> ;)
20:22 <epsy> btw, you could use of a config file, so you want have to set it again on each start
20:22 <acieroid> yes
20:23 <flex> arseroid
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20:23 <K-Yo> almost flex
20:23 <flex> lol, had to get that out :p
20:23 <K-Yo> nice try ;)
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20:25 <K-Yo> what's better: AMD or Pentium?
20:25 <luke-jr> AMD
20:26 <luke-jr> well
20:26 <luke-jr> unless it's like AMD K6 or something ancient
20:26 <luke-jr> seeing as Pentium is ancient, it could very well be
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20:29 <K-Yo> then AMD?
20:30 <K-Yo> new pentiums aren't good?
20:30 <luke-jr> there are no new pentiums
20:30 <luke-jr> pentiums are discontinued
20:30 <luke-jr> that's how much Pentium 4 sucked
20:30 <StickyNoob> old pentiums wernt good
20:31  * epsy is a happy owner of a legendary pentium then
20:31 <StickyNoob> luke-jr: they rocked, my flat was freezing untill i got a P4 and tried to add 2 numbers
20:31 <luke-jr> …
20:31 <epsy> uname -pi
20:31 <epsy> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel
20:32 <luke-jr> luke-jr@tsuruki ~ $ uname -pi
20:32 <luke-jr> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD
20:32 <StickyNoob> uname -pi
20:32 <StickyNoob> unknown unknown
20:32 <epsy> lol
20:33 <K-Yo> k-yo@k-yo-ubuntu:~/arma$ uname -pi
20:33 <K-Yo> unknown unknown
20:33 <K-Yo> :P
20:33 <K-Yo> I have a pentium Core 2 duo 1.7 Ghz i think
20:33 <epsy> you think you think
20:33 <epsy> :P
20:34 <luke-jr> K-Yo: Core2 aren't Pentium
20:34 <StickyNoob> K-Yo: cat /proc/cpuinfo
20:34  * epsy owns a direct predeccessor of the core duo :p
20:35 <StickyNoob> pentium M
20:36 <luke-jr> my laptop is a Pentium M
20:36 <luke-jr> :|
20:36 <luke-jr> bbiab
20:39 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8019 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Added logging of /admin commands
20:39 <epsy> does SILENCE_ALL excludes players whose nickname match one in the "mates" ?
20:41 <wrtlprnft> no.
20:41 <acieroid> and what's the option for tha wall length ?
20:42 <acieroid> because WALL_LENGTH doesn't work :-/
20:42 <wrtlprnft> CYCLE_WALL_LENGTH
20:42 <acieroid> thanks :)
20:42 <wrtlprnft> #cfg wall_length
20:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
20:42 <wrtlprnft> err
20:43 <wrtlprnft> #cfg length
20:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || SP_WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1)
20:43 <wrtlprnft> it's WALLS_LENGTH, sorry
20:43 <acieroid> aaah, ok
20:43 <wrtlprnft> NOT CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH, that'll be overwritten
20:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: hmm, it would be a bit complicated to add that feature
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20:53 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: any estimate on how hard it would be to add a “<some mod> kicked <some dick>” console message to everyone for <some mod> having an access level > <some value>?
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21:46 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8020 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/ (engine/ePlayer.cpp tools/tConfiguration.cpp): No longer print successful calls to ACCESS_LEVEL and USER_LEVEL to the console when loading a config file at start
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21:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8021 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Refactored container test to use some a common header.
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22:23 <flex> #rating stig
22:24 <armabot> flex: stig is 1423rd with a rating of 1437-1776 (from 1438-1775)
22:26 <flex> #aka stig
22:26 <armabot> flex: ¿13376 stig
22:28 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8022 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/README.txt: Updated the file with the stuff I found a bit hard to find out at first
22:29 <luke-jr> #rating flex
22:29 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 960th with a rating of 1481-1595 (from 1481-1594)
22:29 <K-Yo> armadoesn't recognize my keyboard ad azerty but qwerty :(
22:30 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr, epsy: why isn't the x server connected to that rating system?
22:30 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: interesting… it just uses SDL functions to get the unicode char of some keypress
22:30 <wrtlprnft> even supports dead keys for me
22:34 <flex> #aka flex
22:34 <armabot> flex: ¿13567 a23flex [23]flex [flex [flex] flex
22:35 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft: it did that to me with 0.2.8 on win too
22:35 <K-Yo> i don't know why
22:35 <wrtlprnft> err, does it usually work on linux?
22:36 <K-Yo> it did
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22:47 <K-Yo> but you know... I have linux since yesterday, so the "usually"...
22:49 <Hoax-> lol! at last K-Yo :D
22:50 <K-Yo>  ;)
22:50 <K-Yo> And I installed a trunk version of arma :P
22:51 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: well, does it work outside of arma?
22:51 <K-Yo> yes
22:51 <K-Yo> if not I would type awful things
22:52 <K-Yo> like thqt I hqte it
22:52 <K-Yo> and especially the m/; grr
22:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8023 /private/z-man/clio/proxy.hpp: Even more refactoring.
22:53 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: weird… what's your sdl version?
22:55 <epsy> wrtlprnft, idk, i'm not so interested in it
22:56 <K-Yo> eeer
22:56 <K-Yo> how can I check?
22:57 <epsy> sdl-config --version
22:57 <K-Yo> 1.2.11
22:59 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: cuz epsy is too boring :þ
23:01 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: hmm, that's current enough
23:01 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, if you give me another login i'll just run the script from my account if you're ok with it
23:01 <wrtlprnft> my @ armagetron.at account, that is
23:01 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I prefer the server admins ok it
23:02 <luke-jr> #rating ~charmingdevil~
23:02 <armabot> luke-jr: ~charmingdevil~ is 1st with a rating of 2033-2235 (from 808-1314)
23:02 <luke-jr> I think that's called sandbagging :þ
23:03 <wrtlprnft> err, with you i meant epsy, sorry
23:04 <luke-jr> #lastseen Ratchet
23:04 <epsy> what?
23:04 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
23:07 <wrtlprnft> epsy: would you mind if i set it up?
23:08 <epsy> ah, er, ok
23:11 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: :-D
23:12 <luke-jr> so gimme a shortname and longname to assign
23:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: epsy
23:14 <flex> #rating luke-jr
23:14 <armabot> flex: luke-jr is 321st with a rating of 1557-1607 (from 1559-1605)
23:14 <flex> pff
23:14 <luke-jr> flex: pwnt
23:15 <flex> your rating sucks luke-jr
23:15 <luke-jr> #rating |x| epsy
23:15 <flex> seriously!
23:15 <luke-jr> flex: not as much as yours
23:15 <armabot> luke-jr: |x|_epsy is 904th with a rating of 1486-1564 (from 1488-1563)
23:15 <luke-jr> #rating flex
23:15 <flex> no i mean your whole fucking system, you gay bastard
23:15 <armabot> luke-jr: flex is 961st with a rating of 1481-1595 (from 1481-1594)
23:15 <luke-jr> flex: then you're just plain wrong :D
23:15 <epsy> #rating ¦×¦epsy
23:15 <armabot> epsy: |x|epsy is 401st with a rating of 1545-1580 (from 1560-1593)
23:15 <flex> shall i prove it?
23:15 <epsy> that's better
23:16 <luke-jr> #aka |x|epsy
23:16 <flex> #rating |x| flex
23:16 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿10369 0:epsy@xclan.armagetron.co.uk |x|epsy ady_2.o 0:epsy@x
23:16 <luke-jr> #aka |x| epsy
23:16 <armabot> flex: |x|_flex is 476th with a rating of 1534-1665 (from 1535-1664)
23:16 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿5074 phail |x|boulangerie |x|baguette |x|vim |x|nano_ftl |x|vim_ftw |x|uncle_benz |x|_epsy |x|_e |x|_bernadette |x|epy epsy 0:epsy@forums
23:16 <flex> ...
23:16 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf
23:16 <flex> woot
23:16 <epsy> #rating 0:epsy@x
23:16 <armabot> epsy: 0:epsy@x is 401st with a rating of 1545-1580 (from 1560-1593)
23:16 <luke-jr> #aka |x| flex
23:16 <armabot> luke-jr: ¿13394 xff23flex ,23flex 23flex |x|_flex
23:16 <flex> that's gay
23:16 <flex> your gay!
23:16 <flex> you're^
23:16 <luke-jr> flex: u
23:17 <flex> look who's at the top..
23:17 <luke-jr> x ppl
23:17 <luke-jr> http://ratings.armagetronad.net/?authonly=1 :þ
23:18 <luke-jr> epsy: btw, still waiting on short and long names of your server
23:18 <flex> you're officially gay luke
23:18 <flex> 100%
23:18 <epsy> ?
23:18 <luke-jr> flex: uuu
23:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: x, s-sumo?
23:19 <epsy> can't connect to that server you linked
23:19 <flex> #lastseen ~charmingdevil~
23:19 <armabot> flex: ~ChArMiNgDeViL~ has last been seen on Flower Power Sumo Assault 13 hours 24 minutes ago.
23:19 <epsy> x-sumo, ¦×¦.Sumo.server ?
23:19 <flex> #lastseen blumentopf
23:19 <armabot> flex: timed out
23:19 <wrtlprnft> what? luke-jr beat me at the ratings?
23:19 <flex> ha!
23:19 <wrtlprnft> sucks a**
23:20 <flex> the more you play the more you go down..
23:20 <luke-jr> epsy: so fix your DNS again
23:20 <flex> half the top is full of fake names
23:20 <flex> i assumed it would assume the lack of play time..
23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8024 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gWall.cpp): Manuel Moos: Another workaround attempt for the "perfectly stable" OS ATI driver :) Same problem as last time, glColor() call at the end of a glBegin()/glEnd() block.
23:21 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: example short/long: ww_ctf / Wild West (Capture the Flag)
23:21 <wrtlprnft> x_sumo/¦×¦.Sumo.Server?
23:22 <luke-jr> .s?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> ok, all running
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23:26  * wrtlprnft thinks these ratings are better suited for sumo, anyways
23:26 <wrtlprnft> fortress has too many other game elements
23:26 <luke-jr> http://ratings.aa.dashjr.org/*x-sumo
23:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ratings work best when it's every man for himself
23:27 <epsy> it's team sumo
23:27 <wrtlprnft> well, that's pretty much the deal with that server
23:27 <luke-jr> epsy: x-sumo uses auth mode?
23:27 <wrtlprnft> doesn't matter too much
23:27 <wrtlprnft> most of the times they're teams of one
23:27 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: yeah, it does.
23:27 <epsy> luke-jr, yes
23:28 <luke-jr> k
23:28 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:28 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:35 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 329th with a rating of 1555-1610 (from 1557-1607)
23:36 <pippijn> #rating pippijn
23:36 <armabot> pippijn: pippijn is 4465th with a rating of 1150-1850
23:36 <luke-jr> z-man-work: lm8o is annoying
23:37 <luke-jr> pippijn: you should play more, that's default
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23:38 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-214-219-145.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
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23:44 <MaZuffeR> #rating MaZuffeR
23:44 <armabot> MaZuffeR: mazuffer is 872nd with a rating of 1488-1580 (from 1489-1579)
23:44 <K-Yo> #rating K-Yo
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: k-yo is 170th with a rating of 1585-1653 (from 1587-1651)
23:44 <K-Yo> argh
23:44 <K-Yo> #rating ct_k-yo
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: ct_k-yo is 170th with a rating of 1585-1653 (from 1587-1651)
23:44 <K-Yo> true
23:44 <K-Yo> #rating |< ?
23:44 <armabot> K-Yo: I don't know anything about '|<_?'!
23:45 <K-Yo> #rating |<
23:45 <armabot> K-Yo: |< is 598th with a rating of 1517-1644 (from 1518-1643)
23:45 <K-Yo> ouch
23:45 <K-Yo> #aka k-yo
23:45 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿10181 k-yo ct_k-yo
23:45 <K-Yo> hum
23:45 <K-Yo> #aka |<
23:45 <armabot> K-Yo: ¿13487 d"b |< 0:K-Yo@forums
23:47 -!- ohka|quad [n=quad@82-47-202-172.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:47 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
23:49 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/Kill-Time-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet
23:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/KillTime-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet
23:57 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Ratchet/4Axe/Wacko/Blasted-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Ratchet

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