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Log from 2008-02-19:
--- Day changed Tue Feb 19 2008
00:00 <z-man> does Fortress Cafe make debug recordings?
00:00 <z-man> Oh, it doesn't. Darn.
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00:05 <wrtlprnft> z-man: i keep the logs, that's all :-(
00:05 <wrtlprnft> z-man: if you have a use for non-debug mode recordings i can start making them
00:05 <z-man> Np, I just saw Armagetronad temporarily pass through my wall.
00:06 <z-man> No, non-debug mode debug recordings from a foreign machine are next to useless.
00:06 <z-man> I'll just do my own tests.
00:06 <wrtlprnft> ok
00:06 <wrtlprnft> really good night now
00:06 <z-man> I've seen it happen before on Nixda, and.
00:06 <z-man> really gn :_)
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00:59 <flex> who here likes keygen music!
00:59 <ct|kyle> wtf is that
00:59 <flex> it's keygen music!
00:59  * ct|kyle has no sound
01:00 <flex> lol
01:00 <flex> like come on, keygen music!
01:00 <ct|kyle> next on my list
01:00 <flex> what sound or keygen music!
01:00 <ct|kyle> sound
01:00 <flex> then keygen music!
01:01 <ct|kyle> no
01:01 <ct|kyle> next is tron i guess
01:06 <flea> has the dir_wall format changed in a while ?
01:07 <flex> flea, what version you using?
01:07 <flea>
01:19 <flea> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Customizing_the_game#Power-of-two_sizes
01:20 <flea> does that mean x * y must be even in order for dir_wall to load proper?
01:20 <flea> i never had this problem before it doesnt seem
01:29 <flex> flea, what exactly the problem though..
01:29 <flex> it's not loading?
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02:41 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:41 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 5.5°F (7:39 PM CST on February 18, 2008). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -7.6°F. Windchill: -5.8°F. Pressure: 29.08 in 984.6 hPa (Rising).
02:49 <luke-jr> guru3: yeah, linked identities aka redirectors I had suggested :þ
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03:50 <Self_Destructo> I'm guessing chatbot intelligence has been improved a little?
03:56 <P4> isn't it like chatbot learns on your moves?
03:56 <P4> i mean bot, not chatbot
03:56 <P4> :þ
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04:18 <flea> so, where to put this movie/sound pack for public download
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04:28 <luke-jr> flea: add resource-based textures and sounds, then the repo :þ
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05:01 <ct|kyle> .cinf 40
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05:39 <flea> dpg pack online @ xzlclan website
05:39 <flea> http://www.xzlclan.com/the/website/viewtopic.php?p=10384
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06:11 <Self_Destructo> flea: I will announce it on my blog. and I have replied to your post on XzL. :)
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10:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7998 /armagetronad/trunk/ (9 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7976 to 7995:
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7995 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-02-18 12:42:01 +0100 (Mon, 18 Feb 2008) | 2 lines
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  Manuel Moos: Make sure cycle is dead when it gets removed from the game.
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
10:10 <armabot> armagetronad:  r7994 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-02-18 12:41:22 +0100 (Mon, 18 Feb 2008) | 2 lines
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11:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7999 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Repaired GC smart pointers, they no longer require the hacky sharing of one GC by several states. Downside: they no longer resolve cyclic references across states. Well, Don't Do That, Then.
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12:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8000 /private/z-man/clio/tests/smartpointer.test/ (output.txt test.cpp): another adaption to Io changes. Strange, this worked at home before with the same Io version.
13:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8001 /private/z-man/clio/ (iclassinfo.cpp iclassinfo.hpp objectwrapper.cpp): Better efficiency for C++ objects shared between states.
13:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8002 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Better protection against client coding errors.
13:48 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8003 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/ (cCockpit.cpp cWidgetBase.cpp cWidgetBase.h): got rid of the warnings that appeared when loading the default cockpit
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14:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8004 /private/z-man/clio/tests/container.test/ (. output.txt test.cpp test.io): Added test for std::containers. Not working, of course.
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15:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8005 /private/z-man/clio/tests/container.test/ (test.cpp test.io): Further work on containers.
15:58 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8006 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: another win32 experimental build
15:58 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
16:00 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8007 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: i always forget to update the directory, sorry.
16:00 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
16:32 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8008 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ArmagetronAd.cbp: Added tPolynomial* to windows project
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17:09 <epsy> hey
17:10 <Self_Destructo> epsy: hi :p
17:10 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: hi
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17:43 <StickyNoob> damit, lost my 150+ days of up time, a personal record
18:05 <wrtlprnft> aww :-(
18:05 <wrtlprnft>  18:05:35 up 401 days,  7:52, 11 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.07, 0.02
18:05 <wrtlprnft> SCNR
18:06 <StickyNoob> nice
18:07  * wrtlprnft hopes to reach two years some day :-D
18:11 <sasori_away> whats uptime
18:11 <sasori_away> lol :(
18:12 <luke-jr> …
18:12 <MaZuffeR> http://englishrussia.com/?p=1780#more-1780 must have been some weird weather for this to happen
18:12 <luke-jr> how long the computer is on without a reboot
18:13 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: where's that 401 day uptime? I know an exploit for it…
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18:17 <sasori_away> wow, I can only leave my computer on for a day
18:17 <sasori_away> otherwise it exploded.
18:17 <sasori_away> s*
18:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nowhere easily reachable for you :-P
18:20 <wrtlprnft> also, how do you know if i'm not using a 2.2 kernel?
18:20 <luke-jr> :þ
18:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8009 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Added IChained, a base class for wrappers that share the lifetime with a real object. Example use: accessor proxies for member variables.
18:22 <luke-jr> cuz nobody uses 2.2 kernels anymore
18:22 <wrtlprnft> they're still maintained
18:22 <wrtlprnft> how do you know it's linux, anyways?
18:23 <luke-jr> they are?
18:23 <z-man-work> I know it's not Windows 95 :)
18:24 <luke-jr> my IPv4 is down ☹
18:26 <wrtlprnft> might be some sort of bsd
18:26 <wrtlprnft> might be macos
18:27 <wrtlprnft> might be MINIX
18:27 <StickyNoob> might be vista with f@*!ed clock
18:28 <wrtlprnft> did minix even have TCP?
18:28 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: any reason why I can get to beta.armagetronad.net?
18:29 <StickyNoob> Self_Destructo: it just works
18:30 <wrtlprnft> you mean can't?
18:30 <Self_Destructo> yeah
18:30 <Self_Destructo> can't, sorry
18:30 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: are you looking for the installer?
18:30 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: I already told you and everyone else
18:31 <Self_Destructo> IPv4 is down
18:31 <Self_Destructo> ;)
18:31 <luke-jr> upgrade and it will work
18:31 <Self_Destructo> k
18:31 <Self_Destructo> how long
18:31 <luke-jr> ?
18:31 <wrtlprnft> emerge ipv6 && /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
18:31 <wrtlprnft> if it were that easy i would
18:32 <luke-jr> close enough
18:32 <luke-jr> I think 2 more commands
18:32 <StickyNoob> dosent an uptodate kernal do ipv6 already?
18:32 <wrtlprnft> what about my router? my provider?
18:32 <luke-jr> well, assuming USE=ipv6 and such already
18:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you would need it on your gateway system, obviously
18:32 <wrtlprnft> well
18:33 <wrtlprnft> that happens to be a router
18:33 <luke-jr> ok, on the router then
18:33 <luke-jr> or DMZ some other box and make it your v6 gateway
18:33 <wrtlprnft> that sounds slow.
18:33 <luke-jr> …
18:34  * wrtlprnft wonders if he should upgrade his router to kamikaze
18:35 <luke-jr> link_eth0v6="eth0" config_eth0v6=( "ip6to4" ) RC_NEED_eth0v6="net.eth0"
18:35 <luke-jr> ln -s net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth0v6
18:35 <luke-jr> /etc/init.d/eth0v6 start
18:35 <luke-jr> tada
18:36 <luke-jr> first line for /etc/conf.d/net
18:36 <wrtlprnft> and what will be the practical advantage?
18:36 <Self_Destructo> ty
18:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: kill NAT
18:36 <wrtlprnft> i don't mind nat, though
18:37 <luke-jr> most people with more than one computer do
18:38 <z-man-work> Is luke breaking the internet again?>
18:38 <wrtlprnft> why?
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18:38 <z-man-work> just curious.
18:38 <wrtlprnft> i can just ssh to one box and ssh to another from there
18:38  * wrtlprnft was referring to luke-jr's assertion
18:39 <wrtlprnft> and who needs more than one web server on the same physical IP?
18:39 <z-man-work> Ah. I like NAT, it gives an extra layer of protection.
18:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: assuming that one box is working
18:39 <wrtlprnft> my thinking :-)
18:39 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, i hope that it keeps working ;-)
18:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: lots of people, if you have only one IP
18:39 <StickyNoob> hmm IPv6 is going to destroy my easy to remember ip adresses
18:40 <wrtlprnft> mine, too :-(
18:40 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: also consider the case of SSL where every single vhost needs its own IP
18:40 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: ever hear of DNS?
18:40 <StickyNoob> requires a D
18:40 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: you only need it for https, really
18:40 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: domains are cheap
18:41 <wrtlprnft> ssh has a better (imho) way of handling server IDs
18:41 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: so are vhosts
18:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: vhosts are unrelated
18:41 <StickyNoob> wonder if i can get the IPv6 address: CAFE:CAFE:CAFE:CAFE...
18:41 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: no
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18:41 <luke-jr> right now, all allocations are 2000::/8
18:42 <luke-jr> and due to a bug in some older 2.6 kernels, some people couldn't access anything outside that subnet
18:42 <StickyNoob> heh
18:42 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: however, do note the v6 norm is to issue /48s
18:43 <StickyNoob> so only enough addresses for every molecule on the planet as opposed to the solar system
18:43 <luke-jr> so you'd get assigned a subnet like 2001:493b:8a90::/48
18:43 <luke-jr> and you could give your machines IPs like 2001:493b:8a90:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe if you wanted
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18:43 <StickyNoob> what does the /48 bit mean
18:44 <luke-jr> subnet size
18:44 <luke-jr> 48 bits assigned
18:44 <StickyNoob> ahh
18:44 <luke-jr> which leaves 72 for your use
18:44 <luke-jr> the last 64 usually being autogenerated
18:44 <luke-jr> eg, 2001:some:asgn:<your subnet>:<your PC>
18:45 <luke-jr> where both of 'your' are arbitrarily your decision
18:45 <luke-jr> :þ
18:45 <StickyNoob> still going to be an arse: ssh sticky@2001:493b:8a90:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe. (and dont say anything about /etc/hosts)
18:45 <luke-jr> so don't use cafe
18:46 <luke-jr> and set up a DNS server :þ
18:46 <luke-jr> ssh sticky@sticky.homeunix.net
18:46 <luke-jr> or such
18:46 <luke-jr> plenty of free DNS services
18:46 <luke-jr> 2001:493b:8a90::1 might be nicer to work with too
18:46 <luke-jr> you could assign that if you hate cafes
18:47 <luke-jr> I prefer the convenience of automatic assignments and DNS :þ
18:47 <luke-jr> so tsuruki.dashjr.org => 2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d
18:48 <luke-jr> and yokochan.dashjr.org => 2002:440d:6de2:0:20d:60ff:fe77:7d85
18:48  * K-Yo doesn't speak that language
18:48 <luke-jr> and naizen.dashjr.org => 2002:440d:6de2:0:220:edff:fe44:cece
18:48  * wrtlprnft thinks the ipv6 addresses are easier to remember than the hostnames
18:49 <luke-jr> hachi.dashjr.org => 2002:440d:6de2:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31
18:49 <wrtlprnft> hachi is ok i guess
18:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: kazumichan and koryusaikun used to give me trouble
18:49 <luke-jr> but kazumichan is rarely on anymore
18:49 <luke-jr> and koryusaikun has been retired
18:50  * wrtlprnft prefers naming his machines colin, marvin, hactar, eddie and earth
18:50 <StickyNoob> they should have just used base 36 for the address system, then there wouldnt even need to have dns
18:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: just like mine :D
18:50 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: sure there would
18:50 <StickyNoob> why, then "lolnoob" or whatever would be a valid ip address
18:51 <luke-jr> but nobody would have it
18:51 <luke-jr> :þ
18:51 <luke-jr> IP addresses are used for routing, not arbitrary
18:51 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: you should just get sticky.geek
18:51 <luke-jr> it's free
18:52 <wrtlprnft> .geek?
18:52 <luke-jr> yeah
18:52 <luke-jr> .geek
18:52 <wrtlprnft> is that another open/free/somethingDNS tld?
18:52  * StickyNoob checks for .geek 
18:52 <wrtlprnft> better than .xxx or .edu i guess
18:52 <luke-jr> http://www.geek/
18:52 <wrtlprnft> doesn't resolve for me
18:53 <wrtlprnft> i don't have opennic
18:53 <luke-jr> then you fail? :þ
18:53 <StickyNoob> goes to geek.com for me (i blaim opendns)
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18:55 <luke-jr> set your DNS servers to one of http://www.opennic.glue/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=2
18:56 <wrtlprnft> you're REALLY helpful
18:56 <wrtlprnft> look at your URI again.
18:56 <wrtlprnft> at the authority part, to be exact
18:56 <luke-jr> is in the UK
18:56 <StickyNoob> sweet massive.co.ck is available
18:57 <luke-jr> and actually works and is in whatever SE is
18:57 <luke-jr> StickyNoob: not anymore, I just got it
18:58 <StickyNoob> dam you
18:58 <GodTodd> luke-jr just took a massive cock?
18:59 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:01 <StickyNoob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ck
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19:01 <luke-jr> GodTodd: nah, mine's always been massive compared to yours
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19:17 <GodTodd> the size of yours is irrelevant when you are taking a massive one up the ass
19:21 <luke-jr> well, that's what I meant. since you're taking a massive one up the ___, anything is massive in comparison to it
19:22 <flex> ass?
19:24 <GodTodd> umm...i'm not the one that took massive.co.ck...and your statement made no logical sense
19:24 <GodTodd> but then...i don't expect better from you so that's ok :)
19:24 <flex> GodTodd, do you play as "God" ingame at nexus9?
19:25 <GodTodd> nope
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19:25 <StickyNoob> luke-jr is bringing us one step closer to the dream http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=18787
19:26 <flex> I notice there's a "funny" meter.. so that's meant to be a joke sticky? :p
19:26 <GodTodd> it has "fundies" in it...anything involving fundies is funny :)
19:27 <StickyNoob> flex: http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1 the origonal authors rarely realise how funny their quotes are
19:27 <StickyNoob> "I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirty magazine with men in it under his bed. My son is only 16 and I really don't think he's ready to date yet. What's worse is that he's sneaking some girl to his room behind my back. I need help, God! I want my son to stop being so secretive!"
19:27 <StickyNoob> best ever
19:29 <sasori_away> lol I almost thought you were the one saying that sticky
19:29 <flex> there's no real point to it right? it's not trying to be sarcastic because then if it were it's being an oxymoron due to being really hypocritical against the thing it's trying to take the "piss" out of..
19:29 <flex> i really don't find that funny at all..
19:29 <flex> or i don't get it :p
19:29 <sasori_away> you don't get it
19:29 <sasori_away> :D
19:29 <StickyNoob> you dont
19:29 <flex> no u
19:30 <sasori_away> :(
19:30 <flex> no u
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19:40 <GodTodd> luke-jr must have gone back for a second helping of massive.co.ck
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19:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8010 /private/z-man/clio/ (Makefile ichained.cpp tests/container.test/test.cpp): Got basic std::vector wrapper working. You can't do much with it yet, of course.
19:50 <cusco> hey...
19:51 <cusco> I just installed armagetronad stable
19:51 <cusco> why doesn't it load settings from ~/.armagetronad
19:51 <cusco> ?
19:52 <cusco> (I installed via the package manager)
19:52 <cusco> I guess --userconfigdir will do the trick
19:52 <z-man-work> Which package manager?
19:52 <cusco> nop
19:52 <cusco> apt-get
19:53 <z-man-work> You'll have to ask the maintainers of the repository, then :)
19:53 <epsy> a common typo.
19:53  * z-man-work will check with his kubuntu when he is at home.
19:53 <z-man-work> But IIRC, the package from them worked fine in that respect.
19:53 <z-man-work> Where is your configuration SAVED to?
19:53 <cusco> well yea.. I was testing the development branch of ubuntu, tho using the same /home as my debian system
19:54 <cusco> well I have a ~/.armagetronad
19:54 <cusco> I guess stuff goes in there, no?
19:54 <cusco> ( I had been using svn)
19:54 <z-man-work> It should.
19:54 <z-man-work> But if it doesn't load from there, it also should not save to there.
19:55 <cusco> .armagetronad/var has user.cfg and a bunch of other stuff
19:55 <z-man-work> Well, that should be the spot.
19:56 <cusco> but that was there ... when I was using trunk on my other system
19:57 <cusco> what is the flag to make it read stuff from there? --resourcedir ~/.armagetronad/resource I guess and --vardir ... I guess
19:58 <cusco> nope
19:58 <cusco> keys are not the same :/
19:58 <cusco> damn
20:01 <cusco> perhaps it is /etc/armagetronad :p
20:10 <cusco> no can do...
20:11 <cusco> I even replaced the new /etc/armagetronad with the old one
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20:39 <wrtlprnft> #ss nexus
20:39 <wrtlprnft> best server ever
20:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!):
20:41 <wrtlprnft> #ss nexus
20:41 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Nexus9 (NO RUBBER!): PLAYERS (3): HD|mfoz (9), C$ $oup (6), Chuck (1)
20:41 <wrtlprnft> err, still incomplete :-(
20:44 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: any estimate about your ipv4 conn?
20:44 <luke-jr> been fine for hours
20:44 <luke-jr> afaik
20:45 <wrtlprnft> PING hachi.dashjr.org ( 56(84) bytes of data.
20:45 <luke-jr> hum
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21:17 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: seems to work now, finally
21:18 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: DHCP seems to be losing the IP often
21:21 <epsy> URxvt.print-pipe:  cat > $(TMPDIR=$HOME mktemp urxvt.XXXXXX)
21:21  * epsy hopes that fixes it
21:22 <epsy> bbl, dinner
21:24 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
21:25 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 332nd with a rating of 1554-1611 (from 1556-1609)
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21:46 <StickyNoob> #rating |x|_Sticky
21:46 <armabot> StickyNoob: |x|_sticky is 800th with a rating of 1493-1550 (from 1486-1543)
21:46 <StickyNoob> ouch
21:47 <StickyNoob> is that out of 800?
21:47 <cusco> don't mworry mine is worse
21:47 <cusco> #rating cusco
21:47 <armabot> cusco: cusco is 3031st with a rating of 1294-1483 (from 1294-1482)
21:47 <cusco> hahaha
21:48 <cusco> see!
21:48 <StickyNoob> #rating Player_1
21:48 <armabot> StickyNoob: player_1 is 1744th with a rating of 1402-1441 (from 1408-1432)
21:48 <cusco> #rating player1
21:48 <armabot> cusco: player1 is 1624th with a rating of 1412-1493 (from 1414-1492)
21:48 <cusco> even they are better than me!
21:50 <StickyNoob> #rating Armagetron
21:50 <StickyNoob> #rating Armagetronad
21:50 <armabot> StickyNoob: armagetron is 28th with a rating of 1654-1705 (from 1660-1700)
21:50 <armabot> StickyNoob: I don't know anything about 'armagetronad'!
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22:05 <cusco> #rating word
22:05 <armabot> cusco: I don't know anything about 'word'!
22:05 <cusco> lol
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