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--- Day changed Mon Feb 18 2008
00:00 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7989 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Reordered ingame menu so "Disconnect" is agan second from below.
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00:32 <flex> #rating flex
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00:33 <armabot> flex: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
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00:50 <flex> luke-jr
00:50 <flex> #rating luke-jr
00:50 <armabot> flex: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
00:51 <Hoax-> #si god
00:51 <armabot> Hoax-: GOD DOES NOT EXISTS - Thank you - (high rubber and high speed): Players (1/8): DesktopIcon
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01:03 <flex> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/02/hd-dvd-death-ma.html
01:04 <flex> guess that's it then..
01:04 <flex> that was very quick...
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04:50 <Hyper> hey all
04:56 <luke-jr_> who are you?
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06:13 <Hyper> i am the one and only.. me!
06:14 <Hyper> you wont find another one anywhere :)
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06:18 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: you there?
06:18 <Self_Destructo> #lastseen ~"XzL.Ace
06:18 <armabot> Self_Destructo: ~"XzL.Ace has last been seen on MicroBusCity.com |MBC| Fast with soft brakes! 1 day 0 hours 59 minutes ago.
06:19 <luke-jr_> Self_Destructo: come see my bot☹
06:19 <Self_Destructo> the one that was annoying me last night?
06:19 <luke-jr_> yeah
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07:29 <wrtlprnft> SD_away: now i'd be here for a short bit before school
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07:44 <wrtlprnft> now i'm gone again
07:47 <luke-jr> ]rating luke-jr
07:50 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
07:50 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 1258th with a rating of 1443-1548 (from 1444-1547)
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09:35 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
09:35 <armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 294th with a rating of 1558-1612 (from 1443-1548)
09:35 <luke-jr> much better :D
09:56 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: what do the colors mean?
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10:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
10:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: speaking of colours, interested in some odd 0.2.8 regression? :þ
10:09 <luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/screenshot/
10:09 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft: i mean your stats page
10:09 <wrtlprnft> the red stuff
10:09 <luke-jr> 2-5 show it pretty well
10:10 <luke-jr> red mix = high volatility
10:10 <luke-jr> white mix = low volatility
10:10 <wrtlprnft> so red people are the ones who just happened to win their first 10 battles or so?
10:11 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: what version did that change happen in?
10:11 <wrtlprnft> i think there was something in .1 → .2 that changed the rules when the white background would be drawn
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10:12 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: branches/0.2.8
10:13 <luke-jr> the weird colours are on otherwise uncoloured text, I think
10:13 <luke-jr> and are completely transparent at times
10:13 <luke-jr> contrast 1 and 2
10:13 <wrtlprnft> oh
10:13 <luke-jr> oh, and some rare frames DO render correctly
10:13 <wrtlprnft> that's not supposed to be a color code?
10:14 <luke-jr> nope
10:14 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: what happens if you disable display lists?
10:14 <luke-jr> hold on, I'll check
10:16 <wrtlprnft> could it be that the rare frame that render correctly could be the ones where the console contents changed?
10:18 <luke-jr> if I turn it Off, it works
10:18 <luke-jr> could be
10:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: report it to the forums or lp…
10:19 <wrtlprnft> and state your card/driver
10:33 <luke-jr> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=195070#195070
10:36 <armabot> lpbugs: [192860] sumo zones don't collapse for lack of enemy zones anymore
10:36 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: lspci | grep -i gra
10:36 <wrtlprnft> that might be helpful
10:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: no results :þ
10:37 <wrtlprnft> well, you know what i mean
10:37 <luke-jr> edited post
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10:39 <wrtlprnft> here comes the guy who said he wanted to know about that kind of bug :-)
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11:24 <z-man-work> grr
11:27 <wrtlprnft> ?
11:27 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7990 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_authentication.cfg: Added (UN)?LOCK to the list of commands accessible to moderators by default, fixed a typo and clarified that these settings are the default
11:27 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: trunk or 0.2.8?
11:27 <wrtlprnft> ah
11:27 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8
11:27 <wrtlprnft> latest
11:27 <wrtlprnft> try x sumo
11:27 <z-man-work> Hmm, on bugfarm elimination, the zones do collapse
11:27 <wrtlprnft> argh
11:27 <z-man-work> the message is gone, however.
11:28 <wrtlprnft> well, they don't on x sumo :-(
11:34  * wrtlprnft greps the logs for that setting
11:35 <z-man-work> the reason the message is gone on bugfarm is of coruse that it's replaced by the "
11:35 <z-man-work> was awarded x points for holding the base" message.
11:35 <wrtlprnft> ah
11:36 <z-man-work> So bits of code around the collapse thing changed, and things may have gone wrong.
11:36 <wrtlprnft> oh, epsy set the timeout to 0 for the tourney. I wonder why
11:36 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't have any effect for less than 5 teams, anyways
11:36 <z-man-work> Yep.
11:37  * wrtlprnft invalidates the bug
11:48 <z-man-work> Ah, interesting new test case for the svn-bzr syncer :)
11:48 <z-man-work> I had committed something to bzr just before your svn commit.
11:48 <z-man-work> The syncing process started with a pull from svn, which gave no new revisions.
11:48 <z-man-work> While the sync was in process, your commit happened.
11:49 <luke-jr> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/depressed_candidate_runs_attack_ad
11:49 <z-man-work> The first sync attempt then failed, but a second one is in process, let's see what it brings.
11:56 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7991 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): Manuel Moos: Moved glColor() call outside of the last glBegin()/glEnd() block.
11:57 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7992 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/: Manuel Moos: Moved glColor() call outside of the last glBegin()/glEnd() block.
11:58 <z-man-work> Well, that could have gone better, but it also could have gone a lot worse.
12:02 <z-man-work> luke-jr: the last commit MAY fix your font problem, yould you try?
12:03 <luke-jr> z-man-work: I've 1.5 GB over RAM use atm, it will need to wait until I'm not at the laptop to compile
12:04 <z-man-work> Oh heh :)
12:04 <luke-jr> shouldn't be too long tho, I haven't slept yet
12:07 <luke-jr> z-man-work: btw, no 'development drivers' on this machine
12:07 <luke-jr> this card has been fully supported for years and years
12:07 <z-man-work> I'm not too familiar with the ATI zoology.
12:08 <luke-jr> everything up to the Radeon 9250 has had complete and stable support forever
12:08 <luke-jr> newer is all development, with up to X850 "working"
12:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7993 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/: Manuel Moos: Empty merge to keep the peace between svn and bzr.
12:40 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7994 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/: Manuel Moos: Moved glColor() call outside of the last glBegin()/glEnd() block.
12:40 <z-man-work> Hmm, ok, three empty changesets.
12:41  * z-man-work hopes that's the end of it.
12:41 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7995 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gCycle.cpp): Manuel Moos: Make sure cycle is dead when it gets removed from the game.
12:48 <wrtlprnft> what happens if two conflicting changes get ci'd at the same time?
12:51 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: i think the opengl errors i had with the console just disappeared.
12:52 <wrtlprnft> probably the same problem as luke-jr's
12:54 <z-man-work> Yeah, I thought about that, too.
12:54 <z-man-work> Two conflicting changes would leave the sync process in conflict, nothing would happen. I'd get a mail telling me to unwedge the conflict.
12:55 <wrtlprnft> ah
12:55 <wrtlprnft> it's quite unlikely, though
12:56 <z-man-work> Yep. Conflict probability is proportional to the product of the amount of changes made by each party.
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16:51 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i just got a boathouse on your mapgen thing
16:53 <wrtlprnft> but nice lakes
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17:07 <MrBougo> #ping
17:07 <armabot> pong
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17:53 <epsy> hey
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20:22 <flea> how is the turn sound made?
20:22 <flea> is iit a file?
20:29 <K-Yo> yes
20:29 <K-Yo> or no
20:29 <flex> is
20:30  * K-Yo didn't notice the word "turn" at first sight
20:30 <K-Yo> there are only 2 sounds in arma
20:31 <K-Yo> the cyclrun.wav: sound of the bike running
20:31 <flea> then i'm wondering about this
20:31 <flea> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=11431
20:31 <K-Yo> the expl.wav: sound of the explosion
20:31 <flea> k
20:32 <K-Yo> I guess it works with a movie pack or something like that
20:32 <flex> cycle_turn.ogg Armagetron Advanced\sound
20:32 <flex> but that's wave so i guess it's 0.2.x versions
20:33 <K-Yo> u use 0.3?
20:34 <K-Yo> Oh I just noticed something
20:35 <K-Yo> flea, it's a normal sound on 0.3, not on 0.2.8
20:35 <flea> normal sound as in file?
20:35 <epsy> sound is done with vibrations in air?
20:35 <flea> neutrinos n stuff
20:37 <K-Yo> yeah
20:37 <K-Yo> I meant normal sound
20:37 <epsy> what's an anormal sound ?
20:38 <K-Yo> like there is by default a file cycleturn.wav in sound directory
20:38 <K-Yo> there wasn't in 0.3
20:39 <z-man-work> Stop making my brain explode, please.
20:39 <flex> keep on going!
20:39 <flex> make it explode
20:39 <flex> please!
20:39 <epsy> just go to the dir where flex found cycle_turn.ogg
20:40 <epsy> then, if you don't know what to do at that point, i don't think i could help you
20:40 <flex> he's probably using v0.2
20:40 <epsy> whatever, 0.2.* or trunk, there is a turn sound file in the same dir
20:40 <epsy> goddamn
20:40 <epsy> stop making it complicatedf
20:42  * K-Yo pumps
20:43 <flex> guru3 I'd like to register "s" please. :D
20:43 <flex> so I can do sav@s
20:44 <guru3> could you be a bit more ellaborate than that?
20:45 <flex> that's all i've got atm :p
20:45 <guru3> then no
20:45 <guru3> tank_progr@m comes first if i'm doing silly domains
20:45 <flex> lol
20:45 <flex> ok S is a clan i'd like to form :p
20:46 <guru3> talk me to me again when your clan has the same sort of standing as xclan
20:46 <flex> awww, I don't think we can be as pro as them..
20:46 <guru3> not gonna happen then
20:46 <flex> come on now.. they're too good
20:46 <guru3> no
20:46 <guru3> you've not sold me
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20:53 <flex> guru3, there should be like a general agreed policy on all this then.. creating clans or such just for a tag, then which probably wont be bothered about after..
20:53 <flex> or even if it was bothered, it would be kinda weird if the guy carried on using a specific letter :p
20:54 <guru3> there is no general policy for short auths
20:54 <guru3> it's a per instance basis
20:54 <flex> and someone actually wanted it more, you can't just take it off other guys and dictate everything exactly.
20:55 <guru3> auth domains are permanent
20:56 <guru3> you can't suddenly just retire and change it
20:56  * wrtlprnft wants to found the @wrt clan!
20:56 <guru3> w@rt
20:56 <flex> lol
20:57 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i'm founding a new clan that can pwn n00bz and trying to gather the best people around. I've already got myself, are you interested in joining?
20:57 <epsy> wrtlprnft, tell zman in, get ph, and even benelus if possible, there, you have the ePlayer clan
20:58 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: i'd accept fonts in my clan, too, as long as they pwn n00bz!
20:58 <wrtlprnft> epsy: lol²
20:58 <guru3> maybe we should do developer.authentication.armagetronad.net
20:58 <epsy> dev* ?
20:58 <wrtlprnft> not sure if i want that
20:58 <epsy> "staff" ^^
20:58 <guru3> it seems a bit poor that everyone is @forums -_-
20:59 <guru3> but meh
20:59 <epsy> @x
20:59 <wrtlprnft> make it @svn or something
20:59 <guru3> it can't help that we've all built our personalities tehre
20:59 <epsy> oops i forgot about you guru3
20:59 <wrtlprnft> something that doesn't lead to every newbie asking questions
20:59 <wrtlprnft> guru3: @freenode? ;-)
20:59 <guru3> hrhr
20:59 <guru3> i think developer would cause the fewest questioins
20:59 <wrtlprnft> everyone with >1000 lines in this # gets an an account
21:00 <guru3> lol
21:00 <wrtlprnft> (- number of kicks received *1000 to annoy luke-jr)
21:00  * epsy waits for players
21:00 <epsy> #tea
21:00 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:00 <flex> you're a dev because you spam like fuck here?
21:01 <epsy> #tea
21:01 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦×¦epsy
21:01 <wrtlprnft> flex: hah, i'm the biggest spamming pro
21:01 <wrtlprnft> after lucifer
21:01 <guru3> we need a way to link identies
21:01 <flex> I haven't seen Lucifer speak or be here in ages
21:01 <flex> what's wrong with him
21:01 <wrtlprnft> guru3: yeah :(
21:01 <wrtlprnft> flex: no time and stuff
21:01 <guru3> just like a cross referenced list on authentication
21:02 <wrtlprnft> guru3: yeah, the link should be permanent if both parties agree
21:02 <flex> wrtlprnft, oh? what's he busy with?
21:02 <wrtlprnft> flex: no clue. job, kids, crack, …
21:02 <flex> ah crack! very time consuming yes
21:03 <guru3> just something simple
21:03 <guru3> like a space seperated new line file
21:03 <guru3> that stats scripts can fetch and parse
21:04 <wrtlprnft> guru3: why not just add it to the reply from the auth server?
21:04 <guru3> because that requires ammending the protocol
21:04 <guru3> the database
21:04 <guru3> and the software
21:04 <guru3> i just want a simple way to find out if someone is known by another name as well
21:05 <wrtlprnft> to be sure both parties would have to do that, though
21:05 <guru3> yes but we could create a sort of back and forth link system
21:05 <guru3> name + some unqiue id gets submitted, returns a link
21:05 <guru3> party 2 follows the link
21:05 <guru3> adds another name
21:05 <guru3> another link
21:05 <guru3> party 1 verifies
21:06 <epsy> huh
21:09 <guru3> anyway
21:09 <guru3> dinner, bbl
21:10 <flex> #tea
21:10 <armabot> flex: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): beta, Dez, pipe, wrtlprnft |mbc|
21:10 <flex> rejoin epsy
21:30 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@78.109-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
21:30 -!- beta|AoS| is now known as rc1
21:44 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871D51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
22:09 <deja_vu> wrtlprnft: i pwn, but i don't like clans ;)
22:10 -!- ohka|quad [n=quad@82-47-202-172.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"]
22:13 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: aww
22:13 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: it's the greatest clan evAr!
22:13 <deja_vu> :O
22:13 <deja_vu> what does it do? :D
22:14 <wrtlprnft> register @wrt for armathentication
22:14 <wrtlprnft> and pwn n00bZ!11oneoneone
22:14 <epsy> two
22:14 <deja_vu> ^^
22:14 <K-Yo> wrt?
22:14  * wrtlprnft wonders if the rofl clan already existed and died
22:15 <wrtlprnft> the lol clan did
22:15 <deja_vu> hm.. not sure
22:15 <epsy> rolf mao!
22:15 <deja_vu> ok, that would be a new one :P
22:15 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, wanna create the rofl clan?
22:15 <K-Yo> :P
22:16 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: sure, if you make me a clan server for free
22:16 <wrtlprnft> i have no tried downloading armagetronad_dedicated.exe, but noone ever plays on my server
22:16 <wrtlprnft> -no
22:16 <epsy> rolf mao is better :(
22:17  * deja_vu is so glad his nick already has 15 chars :>
22:18 <wrtlprnft> MegaUltraHyperSquirrel²?
22:18 <deja_vu> yay :P
22:19 <deja_vu> SuicideSquirrel or QuantumSquirrel
22:19 <deja_vu> depending on how well i play right now >_>
22:25 <rc1> hey deja_vu
22:25 -!- rc1 is now known as beta|AoS|
22:28 <deja_vu> hey beta|AoS| :)
22:44 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, i can host at home ur clan server ;)
22:44 <wrtlprnft> woot
22:44 <wrtlprnft> you rokz
22:44 <flex> toow
22:44 <K-Yo> i no
22:44 <wrtlprnft> i yes
22:44 <K-Yo> we can put a colored name!
22:44 <K-Yo> 0x000000ROFL KLAN FTW
22:44 <wrtlprnft> be sure two put tow color codes for every letter!
22:45  * wrtlprnft finally found his stereo glasses
22:45 <wrtlprnft> enough clan founding for today
22:46 <K-Yo> yes wrtlprnft
22:46 -!- sasori [n=liiz_@ip56583146.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:46 <sasori> w00t
22:46 <sasori> O_O
22:46 <K-Yo> 0x000000K0x000000L0x000000A0x000000N0x000000 0x000000R0x000000O0x000000F0x000000L
22:46 <wrtlprnft> two codes per letter!
22:46 <K-Yo> i'll set that one day probably
22:46 <K-Yo> two per letter?
22:46 <K-Yo> aaah yaisss
22:47 <K-Yo> rokz mor
22:47  * sasori slaps K-Yo around a bit with a large trout
22:47 <K-Yo> u can code a program that adds as mani color codes to every letter?
22:47 <Hoax-> omg can i join your clan plz
22:47 <flex> no physical contact here please, people get upset.
22:47 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: you're the haxxor
22:48 <Hoax-> ive plenty of OWNED and pWNT instants and everything
22:48 <wrtlprnft> Hoax-: you're in
22:48 <sasori> flex :(
22:48 <wrtlprnft> great job
22:48 <epsy> no no no, let me say it again
22:48 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm super pro extra leet :-)
22:48 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, no
22:48 <K-Yo> don't let Hoax- in
22:48 <flex> clearly a fake.. it's actually l33t
22:48 <K-Yo> we have to TEST him first
22:49 <K-Yo> 1337
22:49 <Hoax-> :D
22:49 <wrtlprnft> yes I am!
22:49 <K-Yo> like Hoax- u like playing?
22:49 <epsy> wrtlprnft loves 1337 bans (and so do i btw)
22:50 <Hoax-> i play 24/7 and pwn n00bs im 1337 u gotta let me in
22:50 <K-Yo> ur in
22:50 <K-Yo> eeer now ur in
22:50 <epsy> no, now
22:50 <K-Yo> can u tell me color code for red? i can't reed the paper where i wrote it :S
22:50 <epsy> or better...
22:50 <epsy> now
22:51 <epsy> K-Yo, 0xRedRedGreenGreenBlueBlue
22:51 <Hoax-> K-Yo, can i be mod?
22:51 <K-Yo> epsy, -.-
22:51 <K-Yo> Hoax-, we need a fidelity test first
22:51 <zmanuel> rofl mao zedong?
22:52 <K-Yo> zmanuel, -.-
22:52 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
22:52 <epsy> K-Yo, put min at all except at red where you put the max
22:52 <epsy> #ping
22:52 <armabot> pong
22:53 <K-Yo> epsy, -.6
22:53 <z-man> Apparently, some members of <<WiR>> are unhappy with their leader.
22:53 <epsy> z-man, no no no, iT4s rolf!
22:53 <epsy> it's*
22:53 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
22:53 <K-Yo> Hoax-, no u can't be mod sry :( but i put u admin
22:53 <epsy> X -.-
22:53 <z-man> Can we try to make them start a revolution?
22:53 <Hoax-> :D
22:53 <K-Yo> really z-man?
22:53 <K-Yo> #lastseen z-man
22:53 <armabot> K-Yo: Z-Man has last been seen on Fortress Café 22 hours 46 minutes ago.
22:54  * z-man plays under a super secret pseudonym at times.
22:54 <flex> z-man, you might of considered there is a spy for the leader in here maybe?
22:54 <K-Yo> #lastseen noob
22:54 <armabot> K-Yo: *Br|noob seems to be on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) right now.
22:54 <K-Yo> i know it :P
22:54 <flex> your revolution is over already!
22:54 <z-man> I don't care, as long as there is a bloodbath :)
22:55 -!- K-Yo is now known as ____WIR___SPY
22:55 -!- ____WIR___SPY is now known as ___WIR___SPY
22:55 <sasori> WiR?
22:56 <flex> yes, they are everywhere
22:56 <sasori> god, I hate them tbh
22:56 <sasori> :(
22:57 <z-man> They can be a bit annoying, but that applies to every clan.
22:57  * ___WIR___SPY slaps sasori 
22:57 <z-man> Except x and CT, of course :)
22:57 <___WIR___SPY> :D
22:57 -!- ___WIR___SPY is now known as K-Yo
22:57 <P4> especially Bloody :þ
22:57 <epsy> z-man got traumatised since itold him to try nexuiz
22:57 <epsy> now he wants the blood
22:57 <epsy> :s
22:57 <z-man> Well, maybe not x.
22:57 <epsy> haha
22:57 <K-Yo> nexuiz is good
22:58 <epsy> but too GPU-hungry :s
22:59 <sasori> WiR is annoying because when you beat them in their own clan server, they kick you
22:59 <sasori> XD
22:59 <z-man> That's the reason they're unhappy with their leader :)
22:59 <epsy> but...that applies to x as well
22:59 <epsy> :D
22:59 <z-man> He's the one doing the kicking, it seems.
23:00  * z-man reconsiders giving epsy moderator rights during tournaments
23:00 <sasori> who's WiRs leader?
23:00 <epsy> lol!
23:00  * K-Yo hopes he could kick noobs from ctwf
23:01 <StickyNoob> K-Yo: dont you already have a full time job
23:01 <K-Yo> http://www.iphpbb.com/board/fs-02815909nx107736.html
23:01 <K-Yo> StickyNoob, :P no
23:01 <K-Yo> StickyNoob, i'm a student ;)
23:01 <StickyNoob> then you should be studying, not kicking noobs all day
23:02 <StickyNoob> as should i realy
23:02 <K-Yo> kicking noobs is way much funnier
23:02 <K-Yo> wanna come ctwf?
23:02 <z-man> Looks like Razor is WiR's prime leader.
23:03 <StickyNoob> is WiR primarily a german clan?
23:03 <epsy> like the phone?
23:03 <epsy> er
23:03 <epsy> i guess so
23:03 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:03 <P4> #t de en wir
23:03 <armabot> P4: we
23:03  * epsy starts mpd
23:03 <epsy> as of the music player
23:03 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
23:04 <K-Yo> StickyNoob, all wir members are german
23:04 <K-Yo> they're recruiting only germans
23:04 <sasori> Razor is wirs clanleader?
23:04 <sasori> hahahaha
23:04 <StickyNoob> xenophobes
23:04 <z-man> Nazis!
23:04 <epsy> Jews! er.
23:05 <StickyNoob> goodwins law
23:05 <z-man> No, they just don't speak english so well.
23:05 <StickyNoob> dam, no argument going
23:05 <z-man> Right, Godwin only applies to arguments :)
23:05 <epsy> that's because fle_x is playing
23:05 -!- flea [n=blia@75-93-206-14.ral.clearwire-dns.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:06 <sasori> flex has sperm on his name
23:06 <sasori> hihi
23:06 <sasori> I do too, but thats ok
23:06 <epsy> jeez
23:06 <epsy> 5 seconds lag
23:06 <epsy> ah, better
23:07 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:07 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
23:07 <epsy> xfroggy, that's like the 5th time you close it :P
23:08 <xfroggy> VirtualBox is taking over :S
23:09 <StickyNoob> virtualbox rocks
23:11 <wrtlprnft> epsy: could you try glxinfo | grep COLOR, please?
23:11 <z-man> Now, who sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to just /usr in kubuntu?
23:11  * z-man wants /usr/local/lib.
23:11 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if it's just my crappy system that doesn't support color matrices
23:12 <epsy> wrtlprnft, hm
23:12 <epsy> $ glxinfo | grep COLOR
23:12 <epsy> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
23:12 <wrtlprnft> that's stderr
23:12 <epsy> i know
23:12 -!- flea [n=blia@75-93-206-14.ral.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:12 <epsy> $ glxinfo | grep -i COLOR
23:12 <epsy> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
23:12 <epsy>     GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
23:12 <epsy>     GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color,
23:12 <epsy>     GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table,
23:12 <epsy>    visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
23:12 <wrtlprnft> GL_SGI_color_matrix
23:12 <wrtlprnft> hmm
23:12 <wrtlprnft> that's supported by my card, too
23:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe i need to use some odd sgi constant then
23:13 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["E>wir<3"]
23:14 <z-man> K-Yo really went with this spy thing :)
23:14 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:14 <StickyNoob> spy?
23:14 <epsy> what?
23:15 <z-man> Did he always have that >wir< thing in his quit message?
23:15 <epsy> no
23:15 <flex> haha z-man
23:15 <StickyNoob> i dont get it
23:16 <z-man> doesn't matter.
23:16 <flex> hey flea
23:16 <flex> :)
23:17 <sasori> does anyone know if WiR clan has a forum or sth?
23:17 <flex> we have similar names :D
23:17 <flex> want to be friends?
23:17 <z-man> They have one, their server advertises it. But I forgot its URL.
23:17 <sasori> oic
23:18 <flex> you're not going to join are you? :(
23:18 <z-man> They have a "do not complain about WiR-Members" rule, though :)
23:18 <sasori> LOL!
23:19 <sasori> no I'm happy in the spermclan flex
23:19 <flea> heya
23:19 <flex> heya
23:19 <flex> I like your name :)
23:19 <xfroggy> test :D
23:19 <wrtlprnft> z-man: do you know anything about the color matrix? i'm running out of tricks here
23:19 <epsy> fk im being owned by an american
23:19 <z-man> No, sorry, nothing.
23:19 <z-man> What are you trying to do?
23:19 <flex> what's new epsy?
23:20 <wrtlprnft> glMatrixMode(GL_COLOR) does not throw an error, but it doesn't do anything
23:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man: for stereo rendering
23:20 <xfroggy> lol epsy :D
23:20 <epsy> just wait...the american devil will typs smth
23:20 -!- Hoax- [n=Hoax@cpc5-oxfd8-0-0-cust434.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer]
23:20 <wrtlprnft> i'd like to specify a matrix that renders everything in black and white
23:20 <sasori> http://www.iphpbb.com/board/fs-02815909nx107736.html
23:20 <sasori> all german, smart..
23:20 <StickyNoob> !cyborgname sperm
23:20 <epsy> well if it's intended only for germans..
23:21 <StickyNoob> #cyborgname sperm
23:21 <z-man> wrtlprnft: It's probably silently unsupported on your hardware.
23:21 <epsy> hrm O.o
23:21  * z-man has seen that with texture matrices.
23:21 <epsy> oh man this is pwnage :D
23:21 <wrtlprnft> then why does my F*** system report having the sgi extension?
23:21  * epsy loves xfroggy
23:21 <epsy> :D
23:21 <epsy> argh
23:21 <epsy> devil is in me
23:22 <z-man> wrtlprnft: don't ask me :)
23:22 -!- ohka|quad [n=quad@82-47-202-172.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <z-man> Should I run a simple test?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> sec, i'll write one
23:22 <wrtlprnft> actually, i'll just make a diff that should turn arma into black and white
23:22 <wrtlprnft> easier
23:23 -!- manuel_ [n=manuel@p50871D51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
23:23 -!- manuel_ is now known as z-man2
23:23 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q0427.q.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"]
23:23 <z-man2> other PC, better for accepting wrt's patch
23:23 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/hopefullyblackandwhite.patch
23:25 <sasori> flex
23:25 <sasori> still alive?
23:25 <flex> yes
23:25 <flex> why?
23:26 <sasori> idk
23:26 <sasori> bored
23:28 <z-man2> Well. it partly works.
23:28 <z-man2> The rim wall is b&w now.
23:29 <z-man2> The various ResetRenderStates probably mess with it.
23:29 <z-man2> So go ahead and curse your hardware, wrtlprnft :)
23:29 -!- z-man2 [n=manuel@p50871D51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:30  * wrtlprnft curses his hardware
23:31 <wrtlprnft> i'm gonna ci it anyways so that it's called if there's stereo rendering
23:31 <wrtlprnft> -that
23:31 <z-man> Yep, do that. It's certainly a cool idea.
23:43 <wrtlprnft> ARGH
23:43 <wrtlprnft> stupid
23:43 <wrtlprnft> do you know what the color matrix does on my card?
23:43 <epsy> hm, no?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> i went and played a bit with reasonable settings of start_fov (90 is waay to big) and made some screenshots
23:43 <wrtlprnft> those screenshots are all black and white.
23:44 <epsy> (OT: wrtlprnft, did you ever try a negative FOV ?)
23:44 <z-man> So it operates on ReadPixel and stuff?
23:44 <wrtlprnft> apparently
23:44 <wrtlprnft> argh
23:44 <wrtlprnft> what a waste of time.
23:44 <wrtlprnft> better get rid of that again
23:46 <z-man> Aww, damit, Io no longer likes my garbage collector hack.
23:46 <z-man> Can't let two states share the same collector :(
23:47 <wrtlprnft> you're working on Io? great :-)
23:47 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7996 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): more realistic calculation of stereo images. the old stuff wasn't really correct, it just sort of worked.
23:47 <z-man> Well, after testing luabind, I thought I may as well pick up where I had left last year.
23:49 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7997 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/eCamera.cpp: removed some now-unused code
23:49 <z-man> Nooo, no code in eCamera is unused!
23:50 <epsy> heh
23:50  * z-man bets someone will complain about changed camera behavior soon.
23:50 <epsy> "too much sanity"
23:50 <beta|AoS|> oops i forgot you epsy ><... Here it is : "mplayer -forceidx http://pix.aos.ath.cx/vidz1.avi  http://pix.aos.ath.cx/vidz2.avi"
23:50 <wrtlprnft> z-man: err
23:51 <flea> new camera ?
23:51 <beta|AoS|> err... Wrong chan...
23:51 <flea> btw, thanks for updating arma here and there
23:51 <flea> i try to follow , but either way i enjoy playing
23:51 <wrtlprnft> z-man: that's the part that sets the perspective transformation *only if* stereo rendering is enabled
23:51 <z-man> Ah ok then :)
23:51 <wrtlprnft> flea: it's not camera related
23:51 <epsy> damn
23:51  * flea is making new dpg packs
23:52 <epsy> went too fast at start then player decided to try getting the hang of it back
23:52 <flea> havent since 06
23:52 <epsy> sending bribes
23:54 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:54 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:54 -!- xfroggy_ [n=xfroggy@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has joined #armagetron
23:56  * z-man needs a new smart pointer concept
23:57 -!- Hoax- [n=Hoax@cpc5-oxfd8-0-0-cust434.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron

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