Log from 2008-02-17:
--- Day changed Sun Feb 17 2008
00:00 <epsy> exactly, css defines perception but not behaviour
00:04 <wrtlprnft> although i think lucifer has another opinion on this
00:09 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: is there a reason for not using CSS to define the visuals of the cockpit?
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00:10 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: it's work :P
00:10 <wrtlprnft> and the cockpit is just visuals :-(
00:11 <Self_Destructo> yeah
00:11 <wrtlprnft> there's some template stuff, i think my cockpit uses it
00:11 <wrtlprnft> that should probably be replaced by CSS
00:12 <Self_Destructo> er, yeah
00:12 <wrtlprnft> the problem is, then we'll either have to support both the CSS and the XML way, or drop the XML way and break all those cockpits
00:12 <Self_Destructo> yeah
00:12 <wrtlprnft> argh, now i started to talk in the plural, too
00:12 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr____________'s way is addictive
00:12 <Self_Destructo> lol
00:13 <Self_Destructo> I think doing it in XML is fine, as long as there isn't alot of it
00:14 <wrtlprnft> i think this goes for a lot of arma, if we were to write it all again we'd do it in a different way
00:14 <wrtlprnft> it's about learning how not to do things, too
00:14 <Self_Destructo> yeah, that
00:14 <Self_Destructo> 's for sure
00:14 <wrtlprnft> right, philippeqc ;-) (but your map stuff will be great when finished)
00:15 <Self_Destructo> it will be awesome
00:15 <Self_Destructo> definately the best improvement in tron for a long time
00:15 <Self_Destructo> no offence ;)
00:16 <wrtlprnft> heh
00:16 <wrtlprnft> the engine is more important than visuals
00:16 <Self_Destructo> I'm dafting up a cockpit that makes good use of images in the cockpit, since I finally have some good ideas
00:16 <Self_Destructo> drafting*
00:17 <wrtlprnft> neat
00:18 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: is positioning going to change with resolution?
00:19 <wrtlprnft> no
00:20 <wrtlprnft> i think the top left of the texture will always be at the top left of the gauge
00:20 <Self_Destructo> yeah, it is
00:20 <wrtlprnft> the scale factor of the texture is relative to the widget size, so the texture will be scaled, too
00:20 <Self_Destructo> but, if you change resolutions, everything will stay the same size right?
00:20 <wrtlprnft> no, it'll be scaled, too
00:21 <Self_Destructo> k
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00:21 <wrtlprnft> just make slightly bigger textures than you really need to support higher resolutions
00:22 <wrtlprnft> the problem with gauges that have a fixed pixel size is that they'd look silly at high resolutions and wouldn't fit into smaller ones
00:23 <Self_Destructo> I was just thinking, currently, the default cockpit doesn't fot completely in my screen
00:24 <Self_Destructo> fit*
00:24 <wrtlprnft> ?
00:24 <wrtlprnft> that shouldn't happen
00:24 <wrtlprnft> got a screenshot?
00:24 <Self_Destructo> I will in a sec
00:29 <Self_Destructo> http://selfdestructo.net/resource/cockpitcutoffss.png
00:30 <Self_Destructo> this was even after increasing windowsize and resolution
00:30 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: ^^
00:30 <wrtlprnft> err
00:30 <wrtlprnft> that's an old cockpit, too
00:31 <wrtlprnft> and an old version
00:31 <Self_Destructo> ? that's what was in the CVS that I dl'd from your site, IIRC
00:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm, the music thing gets way longer on windows than on linux
00:31 <wrtlprnft> yeah, there's been a new one
00:32 <wrtlprnft> including a cockpit that uses a more sensible texture than that wood one
00:32 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18257&highlight=
00:32 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_674.png
00:33 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_673.png ← might be a better example, actually
00:33 <Self_Destructo> ahh, you did the grid, like I was going to do
00:34 <wrtlprnft> then it must be a good idea :-)
00:35 <wrtlprnft> about the cockpit elements getting cut off by the bottom of your screen in your screenshot: There's a minimum (pixel) font size being enforced somewhere
00:35 <wrtlprnft> that's why it gets cut off
00:35 <wrtlprnft> should go away with higher resoulutions
00:35 <Self_Destructo> k
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00:37 <luke-jr> [17:12:49] <wrtlprnft> the problem is, then we'll either have to support both the CSS and the XML way, or drop the XML way and break all those cockpits
00:37 <epsy> um
00:37 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: or write a conversion app
00:37 <epsy> the rounded gauges look quite ugly
00:37 <wrtlprnft> maybe some hacked together python web interface thing
00:38 <wrtlprnft> epsy: matter of taste
00:38 <wrtlprnft> that's why we need different cockpits
00:38 <epsy> i mean, it does not look very polished
00:38 <epsy> not very good for a default cockpit
00:38 <wrtlprnft> it's not even an alpha
00:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7966 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp): Manuel Moos: Longer timout for machines: they always are kept alive at least 5 minutes.
00:39 <Self_Destructo> lol epsy, don't hold back with the blows!
00:39 <wrtlprnft> i think it looks more polished than plain rectangles
00:39 <epsy> well i'm just pointing it out
00:39 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7967 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. config/settings_dedicated.cfg): Manuel Moos: Added forgotten config item.
00:39 <epsy> it looks like it has been badly blended or badly scaled
00:39 <wrtlprnft> that, too
00:40 <luke-jr> could change the default map too :þ
00:40 <wrtlprnft> i haven't figured that out yet
00:40 <epsy> wait..i have aleady a launchpad accout? O8o
00:40 <luke-jr> a circle might be a good default
00:40 <wrtlprnft> just pretend it doesn't happen for now
00:40 <epsy> wrtlprnft, well it's what i am talking about
00:41 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/download.php?id=9636
00:41 <wrtlprnft> does that look better to you?
00:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: why don't you just put the builds up on beta.aa.net?
00:41 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: I think you might want to make the cockpit custimizable by resolution/windowsize too
00:41 <wrtlprnft> because i have no clue on how to do so?
00:41 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: …
00:42 <wrtlprnft> from what i hear from z-man it's one big mess
00:42 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: i'll add that to my wishlist
00:42 <luke-jr> pretty sure it's documented in Svn
00:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: it's scp and add it to the list
00:43 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i'll try with the next installer
00:43 <wrtlprnft> but i don't want the builds to be too official
00:43 <z-man> SF is one big mess :)
00:43 <z-man> compared to what you have to do on SF, AABETA is heaven.
00:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, no :P
00:43 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i don't see any problem
00:44 <Self_Destructo> hi z-man
00:44 <z-man> wrtlprnft: you can make the builds a bit more official by using the "make zipsource" target of the trunk/build subproject.
00:44 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: all past CVS/Svn snapshots are on there :þ
00:44 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's a general problem with textures, though, you have to scale them or fix the size of your gauges
00:44 <wrtlprnft> what's that?
00:45 <luke-jr> z-man: wouldn't that… zip the sources? :þ
00:45 <z-man> It would, but it also does all the stuff the Unix make system handles:
00:45 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: My download of trunk-client-r7959.exe keeps sticking
00:45 <z-man> Make everything report a proper version, for example.
00:45 <z-man> And embed the build files into the source zip.
00:46 <z-man> Of course, I don't know how well it works on the current trunk.
00:46 <wrtlprnft> who would need a windows source zip?
00:46 <z-man> You :)
00:46 <wrtlprnft> z-man: i'll try next time
00:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft, http://82.227.65.72:4539/~epsy/screenshot_673.png
00:46 <wrtlprnft> proper versions would be nice
00:46 <wrtlprnft> epsy: that's not lucifer's screenshot
00:47 <wrtlprnft> i know my graphics card is crappy, thanks a lot
00:47 <luke-jr> http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=all&branch=Any&hideold=0&os=&arch=&bitness=&format=#download
00:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i just messed around with it, it looks ugly with trilinear mipmap textures
00:49 <luke-jr> every build of Armagetron to date, I think
00:49 <luke-jr> minus wrtlprnft's recent ones >.>
00:49 <luke-jr> going back to Walls 2000-01-29
00:49 <luke-jr> :D
00:49 <wrtlprnft> z-man: oh, you mean i do make zipsource on my linux system, extract the zip on windows, then compile it there and release the resulting installer on aabeta?
00:49 <z-man> Exactly :)
00:49 <luke-jr> ooo
00:50 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: bad news. i overwrote some early builds with new ones
00:50 <wrtlprnft> before starting to number them
00:50 <z-man> HOW COULD YOU???
00:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: o ☹
00:50 <luke-jr> well, it will be everything minus those then XD
00:51 <wrtlprnft> not even counting the countless builds that i never even published because z-man did another commit in the meantime
00:51 * luke-jr notes the 0.2.7 packages on beta are missing packager info
00:51 <wrtlprnft> well, countless isn't that many
00:51 <luke-jr> heh
00:51 <luke-jr> ok, s/every build/every published build/
00:51 <luke-jr> :þ
00:51 <wrtlprnft> where do i copy the builds?
00:52 * luke-jr gets tempted to say RTFM ^^
00:52 * luke-jr checks to see if there even is docs
00:52 <luke-jr> (I don't remember)
00:52 <wrtlprnft> well, it's your museum
00:53 <luke-jr> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/maint-info/README
00:54 * luke-jr peers at wrtlprnft's home dir
00:54 <luke-jr> wtf do you have a copy of cmhack for?
00:54 <wrtlprnft> what?
00:55 <epsy> * wrtlprnft removes it *
00:55 <luke-jr> lol
00:55 <epsy> haha i fooled you all
00:55 <epsy> :P
00:55 <wrtlprnft> actually i have no clue
00:56 <wrtlprnft> what is cmhack?
00:56 <wrtlprnft> what would branch be?
00:56 <wrtlprnft> 0.3.1 or Devel or…?
00:57 <luke-jr> epsy: you have access to wrtlprnft's acct? :o
00:57 <luke-jr> 0.3
00:57 * luke-jr suggests copy and modify to an existing entry
00:57 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: hopefully not.
00:57 <epsy> luke-jr, no i don't even know how to use an svn client
00:58 <epsy> except for co, up, and info
00:58 <epsy> :P
00:58 <luke-jr> epsy: that's most of it XD
00:58 <epsy> co does upload ?
00:58 <wrtlprnft> no
00:58 <wrtlprnft> ci does
00:59 <epsy> so..
00:59 <luke-jr> epsy: no, commit does ☺
00:59 <luke-jr> starts with co XD
01:00 <epsy> co is an alias to checkout on my svn client :P
01:01 * epsy tiptaps at armabot
01:01 <wrtlprnft> well
01:01 <wrtlprnft> ci is CheckIn or CommIt
01:02 <luke-jr> z-man: what ever happened to Ben Hines? :þ
01:02 <epsy> $ svn help | grep checkout
01:02 <epsy> checkout (co)
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01:10 <armabot> lpbugs: [192519] RFI: Ability for server operators to force failure of a (kick) poll with a remode admin command
01:12 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7968 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: new not-even-alpha releases. I hope this works...
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01:13 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: I have tried 3 times to download trunk-client-r7959.exe and it gets stuck
01:15 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Windows&arch=x86&bitness=_32&format=#download
01:15 <wrtlprnft> try that maybe?
01:15 <wrtlprnft> the first one
01:16 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7969 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: Make the "Hide Old" thing clickable (ie a label for the checkbox)
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01:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7970 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/index.php: oops, put the starting tag in the wrong place
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01:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: neat, didn't know about the label tag
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03:03 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: where would I submit bugs on the CVS windows build?
03:13 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: we haven't used CVS for ages
03:14 <Self_Destructo> I know, and I think he knows what i meant
03:25 <flex> try his post
03:25 <flex> same thread
03:26 <flex> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18257
03:27 <flex> Self_Destructo
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06:12 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: are needle gauges limited to 90 degrees? (I'm guessing yes)
06:14 <luke-jr_> Self_Destructo: I think you mean 180?
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06:16 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: yeah
06:20 <luke-jr> #lastseen ash%
06:20 <luke-jr> err
06:20 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:20 <armabot> luke-jr: sashtray has last been seen on Norm's Place 51 minutes ago.
06:20 <luke-jr> -.-
06:20 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
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06:21 <luke-jr> how is that Cash?
06:21 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:21 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: Yesterday I got a job offer from IBM
06:21 <Stewie-arma> nice SD
06:21 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
06:21 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: doing what?
06:22 * luke-jr stabs armabot
06:22 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:22 <Self_Destructo> thanks Stewie-arma
06:22 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
06:22 <luke-jr> >:O
06:22 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:22 <Self_Destructo> what's wrong with armabot?
06:22 <luke-jr> keeps timing out
06:22 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
06:22 <Stewie-arma> I guess he can't find Cash
06:22 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:22 <Self_Destructo> #lastseen luke-jr
06:22 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen HellBlade
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:22 <Self_Destructo> lol
06:23 <Stewie-arma> wow.
06:23 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
06:23 <Stewie-arma> over worked?
06:23 <armabot> Self_Destructo: timed out
06:23 <Self_Destructo> #lastseen ~"XzL.FroZen
06:23 <armabot> Stewie-arma: timed out
06:23 <armabot> Self_Destructo: ~"XzL.FroZen seems to be on ~"XzL.Clan The Server right now.
06:23 <Stewie-arma> I think we are overworking it.
06:23 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:23 <Self_Destructo> ahh
06:23 <Self_Destructo> finally
06:23 <Stewie-arma> #lastseen Stewie
06:23 <luke-jr> #lastseen Cash
06:23 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr you sure there aren't any symbols?
06:23 <armabot> Stewie-arma: timed out
06:24 <armabot> luke-jr: timed out
06:24 <Stewie-arma> from what I remember cash used a dollar sign as the S
06:24 <luke-jr> Self_Destructo: btw, have you got ratings back up on Xzl yet?
06:24 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: no idea, but fail != timeout
06:24 <luke-jr> #lastseen ca$h
06:24 <armabot> luke-jr: Ca$h has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 1 hour 34 minutes ago.
06:24 <Stewie-arma> ;P
06:24 <Stewie-arma> or is that the wrong cash?
06:25 <luke-jr> stupid bot
06:25 <luke-jr> dunno
06:25 <Self_Destructo> CASHAY is the result I get in another place when searching for cash
06:25 <Self_Destructo> ahh
06:25 <luke-jr> but it does seem the bot is using timeout when it means error
06:25 <Stewie-arma> would make sense...
06:25 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: it's on my incredibly long list of things to do
06:26 <Stewie-arma> SD, you have way to much to do.
06:26 <luke-jr> i c
06:26 <luke-jr> so not yet ☹
06:26 <Self_Destructo> nope
06:26 <Stewie-arma> working what an 18 hour day?
06:26 <Self_Destructo> nope, I got burnt out on those
06:26 <Stewie-arma> ah, what happened?
06:27 <Stewie-arma> if you want to tell me.
06:27 <Self_Destructo> ah,, long hours just wear on you after while
06:27 <Self_Destructo> and I've been sick a couple of time in the last month too
06:28 <Stewie-arma> yeah I know, I'm doing 8 hours of school, 12 hours of Robotics right now...
06:28 <Self_Destructo> lovely
06:28 <Stewie-arma> yeah...
06:28 <Stewie-arma> it's fun
06:28 <Self_Destructo> although, robotics looks like it would be fun
06:28 <Stewie-arma> it is, but it gets frustrating when you have to ship in 3 days.
06:29 <Self_Destructo> I just hate being one of those 'jack of all trades' kinda guy
06:29 <Stewie-arma> and a couple of parts are missing and you are still testing
06:29 <Self_Destructo> soh man
06:29 <Self_Destructo> hmmm
06:29 <Self_Destructo> 's'
06:29 <Self_Destructo> it's finny how that s sneaks in there
06:29 <Stewie-arma> how did is sneak in there?
06:30 <Stewie-arma> s isn't very close to o...
06:30 <Self_Destructo> and the i replaced the u
06:30 <Self_Destructo> s is the chat key in arma
06:30 <Stewie-arma> aww
06:30 <Stewie-arma> not for me.
06:30 <Stewie-arma> it is set to m
06:30 <Stewie-arma> for message...
06:30 <Self_Destructo> ahh
06:31 <Stewie-arma> and what happened with your movie making? or video stuff...
06:33 <Self_Destructo> well, it's a work in progress
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06:33 <Stewie-arma> aww
06:33 <Stewie-arma> so it's just an ongoing product?
06:33 <Self_Destructo> yeah
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06:34 <Self_Destructo> it turned out to be a hard thing from the start, and I had to setup my gaming computer to do it, because I needed a high end computer.....
06:34 <Self_Destructo> and unfortunately, it's not convinent to get to
06:35 <Stewie-arma> you had to setup your gaming computer to do the video editing?
06:35 <Self_Destructo> plus, with all the job stress going on i haven't really been clear headed enough to do it
06:35 <Self_Destructo> yeah
06:36 <Stewie-arma> I only have one computer -.- and it's pretty crappy. although I am getting a newer computer in August, it's about 166% better CPU power than my current one.
06:36 <Self_Destructo> yeah
06:36 <Self_Destructo> I have 3
06:37 <Stewie-arma> lucky...
06:37 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:37 <Self_Destructo> my laptop, which I am pretty much always at:
06:37 <Self_Destructo> sorry luke
06:37 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:37 <Self_Destructo> and my gaming computer, which iuse for everything but gaming
06:38 <Self_Destructo> and my oldest computer, which will soon either have gentoo or ubuntu on it
06:38 <Stewie-arma> grrr.
06:39 * Stewie-arma glares in jealousy at SD
06:39 <Stewie-arma> haha, I just remember.
06:39 <Stewie-arma> remembered*
06:39 <Self_Destructo> lol, I've had a few years to collect
06:39 <Stewie-arma> on Tuesday I am going to narrate my life...
06:39 <Self_Destructo> hmm
06:39 <Stewie-arma> outloud
06:40 <Self_Destructo> to how many people?
06:40 <Stewie-arma> uhm
06:41 <Stewie-arma> hmmm narrate was the wrong word
06:41 <Self_Destructo> GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
06:41 <Self_Destructo> luke-jr: make your bot stop inviting me!
06:41 <Stewie-arma> I'm going to say everything I am feeling and thinking out loud... sorry
06:41 <Stewie-arma> rofl
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06:46 <Stewie-arma> has anyone ever tried to beat not pron?
06:46 <Self_Destructo> huh???
06:47 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as luke-jr
06:48 * Self_Destructo tells luke-jr to shutup
06:50 <Stewie-arma> http://deathball.net/notpron/
06:50 <Stewie-arma> it's a lot of riddles...
06:51 <Stewie-arma> but you have to know some tech stuff to solve them.
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06:53 <Self_Destructo> i made it to step 3
06:54 <Stewie-arma> I am on 68...
06:54 <Self_Destructo> ahahaha
06:55 <Self_Destructo> 68???
06:55 <Self_Destructo> whoa
06:55 <Self_Destructo> sounds like a time waster
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06:56 <Stewie-arma> or, I'm racing someone.
06:57 <Stewie-arma> oh 69 now...
06:58 <Stewie-arma> if you get to 11, you will get really pissed.
06:58 <Self_Destructo> why?
06:59 <Stewie-arma> it's the only way to pass it.
07:01 <Self_Destructo> eh, well, I'm not going to make it, not right now anyways
07:01 <Stewie-arma> btw, I recommend using the source code for a lot of them
07:01 <Self_Destructo> ?
07:02 <Stewie-arma> it gives you hints, and sometimes it is the only way to solve them.
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07:07 <Self_Destructo> i got past 4
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07:07 <DrJoeTron> we're alive here y/n
07:13 <Stewie-arma> n
07:13 <Stewie-arma> SD is trying to get past 5 on not pron...
07:13 * Self_Destructo is trying to get past 6
07:15 <Stewie-arma> you got to level 6?
07:15 <Self_Destructo> yes
07:15 <Stewie-arma> ohka|quad, it's an anagram
07:15 <Stewie-arma> wtf?
07:15 <Stewie-arma> ohka|quad, lol
07:15 <Stewie-arma> wow.
07:15 <Stewie-arma> that's needs to be fixed
07:15 <Self_Destructo> whaa?
07:16 <Stewie-arma> I type o and h then comma and it comes out with oh,
07:16 <Stewie-arma> woops
07:16 <Stewie-arma> ohka|quad, lol
07:16 <Stewie-arma> that
07:16 <Self_Destructo> lol
07:16 <Stewie-arma> sorry
07:16 <Stewie-arma> damn it I turned suffix style nick completion off -.-
07:17 <Stewie-arma> apparently it got reset
07:17 <Stewie-arma> probably when I updated to 10.5.2
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07:21 <Stewie-arma> wtf...
07:21 <Stewie-arma> on 6 there is supposed to be ascii...
07:21 <Self_Destructo> hmm I'm stumped on 6
07:21 <Self_Destructo> yeah
07:21 <Self_Destructo> i figured that much out
07:21 <Self_Destructo> AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
07:23 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:23 <Stewie-arma> rofl
07:23 <Stewie-arma> are you surprised that I somehow got to level 71?
07:25 <Stewie-arma> for level 10, you should have audio manipulation software, FYI
07:25 <Stewie-arma> which you probably do.
07:26 <Self_Destructo> i do
07:26 <Self_Destructo> :)
07:26 <Self_Destructo> unfortunately, I haven't got past 6 yet
07:28 <Stewie-arma> ;P
07:28 <Stewie-arma> so you got the ascii?
07:28 <Self_Destructo> yes
07:30 <Stewie-arma> use an ascii converter!
07:30 <Self_Destructo> i did, a long time ago
07:30 <Stewie-arma> what did you get...
07:31 <Stewie-arma> please tell me it was something along the lines that it started with l
07:31 <Stewie-arma> (L)
07:31 <Self_Destructo> yes
07:31 <Stewie-arma> lilk uorh?
07:32 <Stewie-arma> ....
07:32 <Stewie-arma> "[22:16] <Stewie-arma> oh, it's an anagram"
07:33 <Self_Destructo> yeah, that's what I got
07:33 <Self_Destructo> but it's not taking it
07:34 <Stewie-arma> "[22:33] <Stewie-arma> "[22:16] <Stewie-arma> oh, it's an anagram""
07:34 <Stewie-arma> USE THAT!!!
07:34 <GodTodd> took it for me :)
07:34 <Self_Destructo> sorry, it's late, I'm not thinking clear
07:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:34 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd, What?
07:35 <GodTodd> level 6
07:35 <Stewie-arma> oh
07:35 <Stewie-arma> sorry.
07:37 <Self_Destructo> I wonder how many people killed a whole hour doing that one, haha
07:38 <Stewie-arma> rofl
07:38 <Stewie-arma> dun dun cha!
07:38 <Stewie-arma> probably only you.
07:38 <Self_Destructo> geez, thanks
07:38 <Stewie-arma> np
07:38 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:38 <Self_Destructo> I'm not the brightest when it comes to puzzles
07:38 <Stewie-arma> I could tell...
07:39 <Stewie-arma> btw, you wont get past 11 for awhile.
07:39 <GodTodd> not sure of the name in 7 :/
07:39 <GodTodd> heh
07:39 <Stewie-arma> oh
07:39 <Stewie-arma> uhm, you should recognize the bar in there.
07:39 <Stewie-arma> or wrapper
07:40 <GodTodd> i thought i did
07:40 <Stewie-arma> or do you mean the title?
07:40 <GodTodd> but i was wrong :)
07:40 <Stewie-arma> no you weren't
07:40 <GodTodd> got a page that said "too new"
07:40 <Stewie-arma> "<!--what candy wrapper is it?-->"
07:41 <Stewie-arma> aww
07:41 <Stewie-arma> "<title>he went to the old school</title>"
07:41 <Stewie-arma> "<!-- times have changed in deutschland -->"
07:41 <Stewie-arma> use those hints.
07:41 <Stewie-arma> all in the sourcecode.
07:42 <Stewie-arma> which is from the hint "-From now on almost all levels require you to have a look at the source code."
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07:42 <Stewie-arma> hey MrBougo, we are doing notpron
07:42 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:42 <MrBougo> ?
07:42 <MrBougo> notpron security suite?
07:42 <Stewie-arma> http://deathball.net/notpron/
07:42 <Stewie-arma> the riddle game.
07:44 <MrBougo> man
07:44 <MrBougo> this is OLD
07:44 <MrBougo> and i don't like :p
07:44 <Stewie-arma> yeah.
07:44 <Stewie-arma> they are stuck on 7 ;P
07:45 <MrBougo> haha
07:45 <Self_Destructo> i hate to say it, but I have not the slightest clue as to what 7 is
07:45 <Stewie-arma> rofl
07:45 <GodTodd> ah
07:45 <GodTodd> 8 now
07:45 <Stewie-arma> Self_Destructo do you eat candy much?
07:46 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:46 <Stewie-arma> todd got it ;P
07:46 <Self_Destructo> no
07:46 <Stewie-arma> do you recognize the candy wrapper at all?
07:46 <Stewie-arma> or do I have to tell you?
07:46 <Self_Destructo> no, I don't
07:46 <Stewie-arma> fine,
07:46 <Stewie-arma> it is a Twix wrapper
07:46 <Stewie-arma> get it from that
07:47 <Self_Destructo> twix??
07:47 <Self_Destructo> ahhwell
07:47 <Stewie-arma> yes
07:47 <Stewie-arma> get the answer using: "<!--what candy wrapper is it?-->" "<title>he went to the old school</title>" "<!-- times have changed in deutschland -->"
07:51 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd, making any progress on level 8.
07:51 <Stewie-arma> ?**
07:51 <GodTodd> not yet
07:52 <Stewie-arma> it's pretty frustrating.
07:52 <Stewie-arma> there is one minor detail
07:53 <Self_Destructo> uhhhhh
07:53 <Stewie-arma> SD, getting frustrated?
07:53 <Self_Destructo> I got a white page with dnuorayawrehto on it???
07:54 <GodTodd> read that one sdrawkcab
07:55 <Self_Destructo> ahh, backwards
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07:57 <Stewie-arma> Todd confused?
08:02 <Stewie-arma> actually... both of you confused?
08:02 <Self_Destructo> I've gotten no where on it
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08:02 <Stewie-arma> haha
08:03 <Stewie-arma> look around " <!-- water became wine -->"
08:03 <Stewie-arma> look for a syntax misshap more specifically
08:07 <Self_Destructo> <bg sound src="../stuff/mus2.mp3">
08:08 <Stewie-arma> yeah.
08:08 <Self_Destructo> my problem is, I can't play the file for some reason
08:09 <Stewie-arma> http://www.deathball.net/notpron/stuff/mus2.mp3
08:09 <Stewie-arma> that?
08:09 <Stewie-arma> try downloading it.
08:09 <Self_Destructo> yeah
08:09 <Stewie-arma> and use both the hints
08:09 <Stewie-arma> " <!-- water became wine -->" "JAY should PACK his stuff"
08:09 <Stewie-arma> well
08:10 <Stewie-arma> use "JAY should PACK his stuff" "say it loudly and proudly" together
08:11 <luke-jr> 'bg' is not a standard HTML tag
08:11 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:11 <Stewie-arma> if it were to be correct
08:11 <Stewie-arma> it would be "<bgsound src="../stuff/mus2.mp3">"
08:13 <luke-jr> 'bgsound' is not any better
08:13 <Stewie-arma> it is background sound.
08:13 <Stewie-arma> well
08:13 <Stewie-arma> it's not complete
08:13 <Self_Destructo> dl'd it an still can't listen to it
08:13 <luke-jr> 'bgsound' is not valid
08:14 <Stewie-arma> "<!-- water became wine -->"
08:14 <Self_Destructo> shutup luke, it's a game
08:14 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:14 <luke-jr> what game?
08:14 <Stewie-arma> it seems in this game, it sometimes is
08:14 <Stewie-arma> not pron
08:14 <Stewie-arma> http://www.deathball.net/notpron/
08:15 <luke-jr> i c
08:15 <Stewie-arma> yes.
08:16 <Self_Destructo> everything I see and hear tells me nothing
08:16 <Stewie-arma> "JAY PACK"
08:17 <Stewie-arma> "say it loudly and proudly"
08:17 <Stewie-arma> SD, you must be tired...
08:17 <Self_Destructo> i am
08:17 <Self_Destructo> it's 1:20am
08:17 <Stewie-arma> and hopefully, you aren't this stupid all the time ;P
08:18 <Self_Destructo> no, definately not, normally I'm much brighter at stuff like this
08:18 <Self_Destructo> Jay Pack is a sounds like?
08:18 <Stewie-arma> ...
08:18 <Stewie-arma> use proper sentence structure please.
08:20 <Self_Destructo> water became wine would mean similar but different
08:20 <Stewie-arma> means change something.
08:21 <MrBougo> :/
08:21 <Stewie-arma> wait, MrBougo are you playing also?
08:21 <MrBougo> no
08:21 <Stewie-arma> okay,
08:21 <Stewie-arma> just checking
08:21 <MrBougo> that's why i'm laughing
08:22 <Stewie-arma> how is :/ a laugh?
08:22 <MrBougo> ironic
08:22 <Stewie-arma> I suppose
08:22 <Self_Destructo> is there any clues in the picture?
08:22 <Stewie-arma> I forgot what the picture was
08:23 <Stewie-arma> what is it...
08:23 <Stewie-arma> ?*
08:23 <Self_Destructo> http://deathball.net/notpron/sdrawkcab/rediar.htm
08:23 <Stewie-arma> oh that picture, no
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08:25 <GodTodd> there we go...didn't have to dl anything
08:25 <GodTodd> :)
08:25 <Stewie-arma> rofl
08:25 <Stewie-arma> how did you not have to?
08:25 <GodTodd> firefox just played it
08:25 <Stewie-arma> uhm...
08:25 <GodTodd> and it gave the un/pw
08:25 <Stewie-arma> really?
08:25 <GodTodd> yep
08:25 <Stewie-arma> it isn't in the mp3...
08:26 <GodTodd> ;)
08:26 <Stewie-arma> well that just confused me...
08:27 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: they are limited to that right now. I could change that, though :-)
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08:27 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: it would be great :)
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08:27 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bugs
08:28 <Self_Destructo> i would subit it as a bug or blueprint?
08:28 <luke-jr> morse code is annoying
08:29 <wrtlprnft> bug
08:29 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: I'm guessing a bug... since you linked me there
08:29 <wrtlprnft> unless it's a feature you're suggesting
08:30 <wrtlprnft> or are you talking about the arbitary angle gauge thing?
08:30 <wrtlprnft> *arbitrary
08:30 <Self_Destructo> ok, so bugs I may have with the trunk build I put there
08:30 <Self_Destructo> and I was talking about the angle gauge thing
08:31 <wrtlprnft> let me fix your_mom's bug, first
08:31 <wrtlprnft> although it will probably break his cockpit
08:31 <Self_Destructo> k
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08:35 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7971 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/render/rGradient.cpp: fixed upside down rendering of cockpit textures
08:36 <Self_Destructo> Stewie-arma: I can't play the mp3, so I give up
08:39 * Self_Destructo is going to bed
08:39 <Self_Destructo> gnight
08:39 <Stewie-arma> sd
08:39 <Stewie-arma> silly goose
08:39 <Stewie-arma> it's not supposed to be an mp3
08:40 <Self_Destructo> Stewie-arma: you wanna know how much I care? this '' much
08:41 <Stewie-arma> I think someone is a little grouchy
08:41 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: i just care this " much
08:41 <wrtlprnft> ;-D
08:42 <Self_Destructo> smart elic
08:43 <Self_Destructo> wth
08:43 <Stewie-arma> SD, just go to bed. you need dah sleep
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08:44 <Self_Destructo> i just opened it in notepad and got a bunch of stuff that doesn't belong there
08:45 <Stewie-arma> try change it to something that sounds like "JAY PACK"
08:45 <Stewie-arma> and that you can open in an image viewer...
08:47 <Self_Destructo> eh, all that work for a stupid username and password
08:47 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:47 <luke-jr__> 6 is impossible ☺
08:47 <Stewie-arma> geeze it took you long enough...
08:47 <Stewie-arma> rofl luke
08:48 <Self_Destructo> I think I'll waste my time sleeping
08:48 <Stewie-arma> alright, go do that
08:48 <Self_Destructo> it
08:48 <Self_Destructo> it's more constructive than this
08:48 <luke-jr__> actually
08:48 <Stewie-arma> luke, SD was stuck on that also.
08:48 <Self_Destructo> cya
08:48 <Stewie-arma> cya
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08:50 <luke-jr__> I didn't look up the page name yet
08:50 <Stewie-arma> try to find the ascii...
08:51 <luke-jr__> yeah, the misinformation is annoying
08:52 <Stewie-arma> it's not misinformation, it's just you don't know the context.
08:55 <GodTodd> hrmm...9 sucks
08:55 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
08:56 <Stewie-arma> uhm, the answer is in the source code
08:56 <GodTodd> i got the clue...but it didn't help me :/;
08:56 <GodTodd> :/*
08:58 <Stewie-arma> look at the source code...
08:58 <GodTodd> i did
08:58 <Stewie-arma> you see that huge paragraph in there?
08:58 <GodTodd> yep
08:58 <Stewie-arma> the answer is in there somewhere.
08:58 <GodTodd> yep
08:58 <GodTodd> but what do i do with it?
08:59 <Stewie-arma> do you know the u/n and pass?
08:59 <GodTodd> it didn't give me a place to authenticate
08:59 <Stewie-arma> but do you know them?
09:00 <Stewie-arma> and btw, the hotbox is the number 9 on the image
09:00 <GodTodd> ah...that's what i needed :)
09:00 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:01 <Stewie-arma> level 10?
09:01 <GodTodd> yep
09:02 <GodTodd> is that another ascii thing?
09:02 <Stewie-arma> no
09:02 <Stewie-arma> source code.
09:02 <GodTodd> ...
09:02 <Stewie-arma> oh
09:02 <Stewie-arma> no
09:02 <Stewie-arma> do you have speakers?
09:03 <GodTodd> last i checked
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09:03 <Stewie-arma> then, source code
09:04 <GodTodd> you know...repeating "source code" when i'm looking at it doesn't help much
09:05 <luke-jr_> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39158
09:05 <GodTodd> and i doubt my system has ystemRoot%\System32\sndrec32.exe
09:05 <GodTodd> heh
09:06 <GodTodd> %bhrmm
09:06 <luke-jr_> LOL
09:06 <luke-jr_> test
09:06 <GodTodd> test
09:06 <GodTodd> that's kinda snazzy :)
09:06 <GodTodd> snazzy
09:07 <luke-jr_> % S first
09:07 <luke-jr_> bold too?
09:07 <luke-jr_> nope, no bold
09:07 <luke-jr_> but maybe that's just my font not supporting bold…
09:07 <luke-jr_> underline?
09:07 <luke-jr_> italic?
09:07 <GodTodd> yep
09:07 <GodTodd> italics
09:07 <luke-jr_> did bold or italic work for you guys?
09:07 <luke-jr_> neat
09:07 <GodTodd> USIall of the above
09:07 <GodTodd> heh
09:07 <GodTodd> can't nest them :/
09:07 <GodTodd> wait
09:07 <GodTodd> maybe
09:08 <GodTodd> test
09:08 <GodTodd> there we go :)
09:08 <luke-jr_> I wonder if it's transmitted that way..
09:08 <GodTodd> luke-jr_, they all worked for me
09:08 <GodTodd> cuz my font doesn't suck
09:08 <GodTodd> :)
09:09 <Stewie-arma> todd, you don't have sound recorder?
09:09 <GodTodd> is it only at the beginning front of the sentence?
09:09 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:09 <GodTodd> is it only at the beginning front of the sentence?
09:09 <GodTodd> there we go :)
09:10 <GodTodd> Stewie-arma, probably
09:11 <GodTodd> well...i think asterisks have lost their luster for emphasis for me now ;)
09:11 <GodTodd> cuz now i have bold for emphasis :D
09:11 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
09:11 <Stewie-arma> well, do you have any sound manipulation application?
09:12 <GodTodd> i'm sure linux has one or ten
09:12 <Stewie-arma> well that's what you need to do.
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09:13 <GodTodd> luke-jr's connection to irc sucks
09:13 <Stewie-arma> btw, I'm trying to give you hints. not tell you what to do.
09:13 <GodTodd> yep
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09:14 <luke-jr> no duh
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09:37 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd
09:38 <DrJoeTron> #m GodTodd FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
09:38 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <emphasis> maximaal geheugen xp
09:42 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/6
09:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / 6 = 0.166666667
09:43 <GodTodd> #m DrJoeTron wtfdywmf?
09:43 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
09:51 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7972 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Added support for widgets with arbitrary start and end angles and included a small analog clock in the default cockpit to show how it can be used. Hi there Self_Destructo.
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10:05 <DrJoeTron> fuk u mang
10:05 <DrJoeTron> how u like dat noise GodTodd
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10:07 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron fucks goats
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10:14 <DrJoeTron> fine
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:14 <DrJoeTron> FUCKING GODTODD
10:16 <Luke-jr> /ignore DrJoeTron
10:18 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7973 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: new windows build
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10:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7974 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Fixed the tags, they were running 900 revisions late
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10:26 <Luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 7949 and 7930 are missing files
10:29 <wrtlprnft> Luke-jr: better now?
10:30 <Luke-jr> wrtlprnft: looks like it; fyi, I check by viewing them on the page-- if they're missing, size is blank
10:30 <wrtlprnft> ah
10:37 <philippeqc> darn, forgot to make it away yesterday
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10:56 <guru3> oh po
10:56 <guru3> poo
10:56 <guru3> i've got no idea how to write a bill
10:58 <Luke-jr> "u owez me 5000 $$$; leave it on the top of teh place on my map and dont call cops"
10:59 <guru3> if only
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11:02 <Luke-jr> lol
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11:14 <DrJoeTron> fff
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11:59 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7975 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Fixed moviepack wall rendering.
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12:09 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7976 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rModel.cpp src/render/rModel.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed moviepack cycle rendering.
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7977 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (15 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 7958 to 7976:
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: r7976 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-02-17 12:09:34 +0100 (Sun, 17 Feb 2008) | 2 lines
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Fixed moviepack cycle rendering.
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:17 <armabot> armagetronad: r7975 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-02-17 11:59:24 +0100 (Sun, 17 Feb 2008) | 2 lines
12:19 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7978 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added a marshaler object to tPolynomial to facilitate manipulation of item such as rotationAngle and rotationSpeed
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13:07 <epsy> any volounter to admin ¦×¦.TST.server this evening ?
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13:10 <epsy> merde tu joues toi
13:10 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'll do it
13:11 <epsy> wrtlprnft@forums?
13:19 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:19 <epsy> ok, you're added
13:19 <guru3> viva forums
13:20 <epsy> viva x
13:20 <epsy> :)
13:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7979 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/Anonymous/original/original.cockpit.xml: Added a (hopefully) more visually appealing clock
13:20 <epsy> wrtlprnft, if you can't admin OP someone
13:21 <wrtlprnft> ok
13:22 <guru3> pisses me off how my room keeps getting up to 80F
13:23 <wrtlprnft> #g 80F inC
13:23 <wrtlprnft> #g 80F in C
13:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 80 degrees Fahrenheit = 26.6666667 degrees Celsius
13:23 <wrtlprnft> switch off a couple of machines you don't need? ;-)
13:23 <guru3> all 3 are in use
13:28 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7980 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: another windows build (it sucks that each of them has to generate a commit message...)
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14:17 <K-Yo> i have a problem
14:17 <K-Yo> (as always)
14:17 <K-Yo> I'm playing the TST tonight
14:17 <K-Yo> but my DNS can't find the map
14:18 <K-Yo> durka's one
14:18 <luke-jr__> ok
14:18 <luke-jr__> enjoy
14:18 <K-Yo> could anyone put it on a website I can access?
14:18 <K-Yo> :s
14:18 <luke-jr__> wrtlprnft: could just limit to 1 build a day :þ
14:19 <luke-jr__> K-Yo: tell Durka to get his act together and put it in the repository :þ
14:19 <K-Yo> i can't access the repository
14:19 <K-Yo> my DNS don't find it
14:19 <K-Yo> it's in Durka/sumo/team-0.0.8.aamap.xml
14:19 <luke-jr__> K-Yo: then fix your DNS
14:19 <K-Yo> thanks that helps a lot
14:20 <K-Yo> I've been trying to fix it since a long time
14:20 <K-Yo> people in #DNS didn't find out how to solve my problem
14:20 <luke-jr__> I suggest you succeed!
14:20 <K-Yo> I suggest too
14:20 <K-Yo> but life doesn't always happen like we wish
14:21 <K-Yo> you can get: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/Durka/sumo/team-0.0.8.aamap.xml right?
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14:23 <luke-jr> of course
14:24 <K-Yo> i can't :(
14:24 <K-Yo> can you send it to me please?
14:25 <K-Yo> it's ok
14:25 <K-Yo> I managed getting it somewhere else
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14:30 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: beta.aa.net is 70.184.212.127
14:30 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: put it into your /etc/hosts if you need more files :-)
14:30 * wrtlprnft did that to avoid the excessive slowness of luke-jr's dns
14:31 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you must update that often
14:31 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: cronjob
14:32 <luke-jr> lol
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14:36 <K-Yo> thx wrtlprnft
14:37 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, i'm using windows, isn't etc.hosts for linux? :P
14:38 <wrtlprnft> it's somewhere, too
14:38 <wrtlprnft> c:/windows/system32/etc/hosts or something like that
14:39 <wrtlprnft> c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
14:40 <wrtlprnft> well-hidden.
14:43 <cusco> \ not /
14:43 <wrtlprnft> well
14:43 <wrtlprnft> is easier to type for me
14:43 <cusco> lol
14:43 <cusco> for a linux user... you know quite a lot about winblows
14:44 <wrtlprnft> and i think people can imagine that they should type a backslash
14:44 <wrtlprnft> cusco: unfortunetely
14:44 <cusco> haha
14:44 <cusco> I also know that file...
14:44 <cusco> I needed to edit it not long ago
14:45 * wrtlprnft wonders about the point of using backslashes
14:45 <wrtlprnft> if you could at least use normal slashes in path components it'd make sense
14:45 <wrtlprnft> but no, you can't.
14:45 <cusco> oh well...
14:48 * wrtlprnft is still amazed how a file containing a couple of comments and the line “127.0.0.1 localhost” can be copyrighted by microsoft
14:49 <wrtlprnft> wtf?
14:49 <wrtlprnft> does anyone here have an english version of XP?
14:49 <wrtlprnft> what's in c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/quotes for you?
14:50 <luke-jr> lol
14:50 <luke-jr> sue Microsoft for claiming copyright on something public domain
14:51 <K-Yo> thanks a lot wrtl ;)
14:51 <wrtlprnft> yw
14:51 <wrtlprnft> note that luke-jr's IP isn't static, though
14:52 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i get « player -> player_chat_team: msg » on x sumo when someone tries to team-chat :/
14:53 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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14:56 <z-man> I made that a language string recently...
14:56 <wrtlprnft> well
14:56 <wrtlprnft> did you ci the corresponding language file?
14:57 <z-man> I think so.
14:57 <wrtlprnft> i can't find it
14:58 <z-man> That's because I misnamed it :)
14:59 <z-man> Should be player_team_message in the code.
14:59 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: http://www.dnswatch.info/dns/dnslookup?la=en&host=beta.armagetronad.net&type=A&submit=Resolve
14:59 <wrtlprnft> maybe that's why it's all taking so long
15:01 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: except that webpage is wrong? :þ
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15:01 <luke-jr> dig beta.armagetronad.net @ns2.dreamhost.com
15:02 <wrtlprnft> beta.armagetronad.net. 6094 IN CNAME aabeta.dashjr.org.
15:02 <wrtlprnft> aabeta.dashjr.org. 207 IN CNAME hachi.dashjr.org.
15:02 <wrtlprnft> hachi.dashjr.org. 207 IN A 70.184.212.127
15:02 <wrtlprnft> can't you do with fewer CNAMEs?
15:02 <epsy> z-man, *reminder* TST this evening
15:03 <z-man> Umm, and?
15:03 <z-man> I thought you don't need my server or admin powers.
15:03 <epsy> er..
15:04 <epsy> i thought fofo asked you..
15:04 <z-man> Umm, no. All I remember is someone (probably you) asking to advertise for the event on Elimination Sumo.
15:05 <wrtlprnft> wow, lots of TST spam
15:05 <z-man> And saying "nnoooo, we have servers all right"
15:05 <epsy> O_o
15:06 <z-man> "We already have servers to run the tournement.
15:06 <z-man> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18204
15:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: the dashjr.org CNAME returns the hint for the target, so changing it wouldn't help
15:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: nothing I can do about dreamhost's, especially since aa.net is a .net
15:07 <epsy> well FoFo told me he asked you..
15:07 <z-man> He may have talked to an imposter ingame.
15:07 <epsy> hm..
15:07 <z-man> One of them offered Neutrino server hosting.
15:08 <z-man> Ah, now I see my server on the server board. Oh well.
15:08 <z-man> Better bring it up, then :)
15:08 <epsy> so i'ill need to find another server before the evening
15:08 <epsy> oh
15:08 <z-man> No, not another server.
15:08 <z-man> Just someone to admin it.
15:10 <z-man> And someone to send me the settings :)
15:11 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i'll assume you'll set up the server with the correct settings :-P
15:11 <epsy> MAP_FILE Durka/sumo/team-0.0.8.aamap.xml
15:11 <epsy> http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=198
15:11 <epsy> but i'm starting to think the map has a wrong config within it
15:11 <epsy> better use examples/teamsumo.cfg
15:12 <eddiefantastic> epsy: I'm out for the day now.
15:12 <epsy> will that cfg be included in 0.2.8.3?
15:12 <wrtlprnft> yeah.
15:12 <wrtlprnft> unless someone objects
15:12 <epsy> when will 0.2.8.3 be released ?
15:13 <epsy> question of weeks ? months?
15:13 <wrtlprnft> when it's ready
15:13 <epsy> sure only when it's ready
15:13 <wrtlprnft> epsy: RINCLUDE http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/examples/teamsumo.cfg?revision=7802&pathrev=7950
15:13 <epsy> when i say june, what do you think? :P
15:13 <wrtlprnft> summer i think.
15:14 <epsy> RINCLUDE is a 0.2.8.3 feature :p
15:14 <wrtlprnft> argh
15:15 <eddiefantastic> you have the admin_pass for ed's tst right?
15:15 <eddiefantastic> well, bye. Good luck with it.
15:15 <eddiefantastic> (something tells me you'll need it ;))
15:15 <wrtlprnft> the luck or the pass?
15:15 <epsy> eddiefantastic, hoax has it right?
15:15 <wrtlprnft> i can get it if all fails
15:16 <epsy> wrtlprnft, well you're already going to admin x sumo :/
15:16 <wrtlprnft> well, i can relay it
15:17 <epsy> but to who?
15:17 <wrtlprnft> you?
15:17 <epsy> i'm not playing on x sumo
15:18 <epsy> oh right
15:18 <epsy> z-man, i could admi nyour server
15:18 <z-man> That would be sweet.
15:18 <z-man> I think I may make it back in time, but if not, it'd be good to have someone there.
15:18 <epsy> z-man, epsy@x
15:18 <z-man> that works now?
15:19 <wrtlprnft> yeah
15:19 <epsy> indeed
15:19 <z-man> cool
15:19 <epsy> and, please make me able to /op
15:19 <wrtlprnft> wrt@rnft doesn't :-(
15:22 <z-man> epsy: yes, you'll be admin (access level 1) and you'll be able to summon moderators
15:22 <epsy> ok
15:23 <wrtlprnft> 1 is the default access level for most commands, right?
15:23 <z-man> Yes.
15:23 <wrtlprnft> good to know
15:23 <z-man> Only KICK et al are at default level 2.
15:23 <wrtlprnft> and some at 0
15:23 <z-man> I'll be lowering the /admin access level to 2
15:24 <z-man> yeah, those commands that change admin access levels :)
15:24 <wrtlprnft> what about QUIT?
15:24 <z-man> Probably at 1
15:25 <z-man> Yep, unchanged from the default.
15:25 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i see
15:26 * wrtlprnft never knew about EXIT
15:30 <epsy> wrtlprnft, xs20 is rico and krake is spot/mikael
15:31 <epsy> and rico is earplugs :P
15:34 <z-man> Oh, screw those name changes.
15:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
15:34 <wrtlprnft> or at least have them log in :-(
15:34 <z-man> epsy: come to my server and test?
15:34 <wrtlprnft> i especially hate people renaming themselves so they're harder to recognize
15:38 <epsy> z-man, could you put something like
15:38 <epsy> ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE 0xff0000Admin0xffff88: TST this evening at 20:30, Teams playing here are: flashy & epsy, Viper & Legit, Cid & Hay-Lin and Emmy & K-Yo
15:39 <z-man> sure
15:41 <K-Yo> ;)
15:42 <wrtlprnft> err
15:42 <wrtlprnft> 20:30
15:43 <wrtlprnft> hmm, that might be a bit early
15:54 <epsy> z-man, thanks :)
15:58 <z-man> epsy: np :)
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16:19 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7981 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: VOTES_CANCEL cancels all running polls.
16:19 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7982 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt): Manuel Moos: Forgot to document the last setting.
16:20 <epsy> another reason to say thanks
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16:34 <K-Yo> can anyone connect to zman's tst server?
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16:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah
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16:35 <wrtlprnft> and i'm a team leader for some reason
16:35 <K-Yo> i can't
16:35 <K-Yo> pfff
16:35 <K-Yo> i'll try again
16:35 <z-man> wrtlprnft: probably leftover from the ladle settings.
16:36 <K-Yo> z-man, u don't have the same map than x server
16:36 <z-man> wrtlprnft told me to use examples/teamsumo.cfg
16:36 <K-Yo> urs is map-1 and in x it's team-0.0.8.aamap.xml
16:36 <K-Yo> hum
16:37 <epsy> i told him myself to do so
16:37 <z-man> Ah, that's because the later maps contain settings.
16:38 <z-man> Purely map-wise, there is no difference, I think.
16:38 <K-Yo> MAP_FILE Durka/sumo/team-0.0.8.aamap.xml
16:38 <K-Yo> that's what epsy asked
16:38 <K-Yo> to ed
16:38 <wrtlprnft> woot!
16:38 <epsy> <epsy> i told him myself to do so
16:38 <wrtlprnft> 55 seconds in single player mode on sumo
16:38 <K-Yo> yep
16:38 * wrtlprnft just found a new game type
16:38 <K-Yo> why don't we all have the same?
16:38 <epsy> heh
16:38 <K-Yo> I don't have the map-1 in cache...
16:38 <K-Yo> :'(
16:38 <wrtlprnft> keep the stupid bots inside the zone
16:39 <epsy> go there and dl it?
16:39 <K-Yo> epsy, i can't
16:39 <K-Yo> dns issues
16:39 <epsy> oh, luke's dns is down again, great
16:39 <z-man> Then copy the other map over.
16:39 <wrtlprnft> or use a 0.2.7.1 client
16:39 <wrtlprnft> it won't have that problem
16:40 <z-man> yuck ;)
16:40 <K-Yo> http://master.resource.aa.dashjr.org/resource/Durka/sumo/map-1.aamap.xml
16:40 <K-Yo> it says 404
16:40 <K-Yo> oh
16:40 <K-Yo> it works
16:41 <K-Yo> I'll never understand this :S
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17:15 <QUARG_> hey
17:15 <epsy> right
17:15 <QUARG_> or
17:16 <QUARG_> i could set you up with ID rubber
17:16 <QUARG_> its hosted in canada
17:16 <epsy> QUARG_, /join #arma-ladle
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17:29 * epsy thinks browser and plugins should be in different threads
17:30 <epsy> now i have firefox plunged into freeze while flash tries to open an audio device
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18:09 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: http://resource.armagetron.at/ ← this should work soon (the dns entry is already there, needs to propagate).
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18:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7983 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8_alpha20080217.
18:13 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
18:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7984 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: GNU/Linux
18:14 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
18:14 <flex> wrtlprnft are you using a virtual machine to compile the window builds?
18:14 <wrtlprnft> flex: not yet
18:15 * epsy notes you can't do windows -x program
18:15 <flex> I was thinking, if you did do that, maybe i could steal your vm files and then maybe i could see how you're doing it :p
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18:15 <wrtlprnft> mostly because the winxp vm i have is only 2 gigs large and i didn't manage to enlarge it
18:15 <wrtlprnft> flex: it's not that hard, really
18:16 <wrtlprnft> hey, i managed to do it :-P
18:16 <flex> i know, i just can't be arsed to figure it out just yet
18:16 <flex> i've already settled on the idea that armagetron doesn't care about windows :p
18:17 <epsy> how come we have windows installers?
18:17 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/README.txt?view=markup
18:17 <epsy> [ they ] :s
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18:17 <wrtlprnft> i found that AFTER i managed to build arma x_X
18:17 <flex> lol
18:17 <epsy> heh
18:18 <flex> it's out of date though no?
18:18 <wrtlprnft> it's ok.
18:18 <wrtlprnft> combine that with http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development_System
18:19 <flex> you're doing a fine job atm :p
18:19 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:19 <wrtlprnft> there's an update_windows.bat file
18:20 <wrtlprnft> the next build's going to be versioned :D
18:20 <flex> yay
18:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7985 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ZThread.cbp: Another absolute path gone.
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18:40 <K-Yo> .msg nickserv identify Olivier
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18:41 <epsy> owned
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18:41 <epsy> K-Yo, owned
18:42 <K-Yo> :p
18:42 * K-Yo shouldn't use #armagetron for that
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18:45 <MrBougo> K-Yo should have better passwords too
18:45 <MrBougo> :p
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18:48 <wrtlprnft> aww :-(
18:48 <wrtlprnft> he changed it
18:48 <K-Yo> indeed
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18:48 <wrtlprnft> #weather 12345
18:48 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The current temperature in Glenville, Scotia, New York is 33.3°F (12:49 PM EST on February 17, 2008). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Falling).
18:48 <K-Yo> and so did I on forums, no need to try :p
18:48 <wrtlprnft> heh, i'm too lazy to try that
18:49 <wrtlprnft> i just like the effect of ghostkilling someone :-P
18:49 <ghableska> #weather 50266
18:49 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 31.3°F (11:44 AM CST on February 17, 2008). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 28.42 in 962.3 hPa (Falling). Blizzard Warning in effect until midnight CST tonight...
18:50 <epsy> K-Yo is gay
18:51 <epsy> i could understand gf's name as pw, but bf's
18:51 <epsy> pfff K-Yo
18:52 <K-Yo> :p
18:53 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7986 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (16 files in 6 dirs): monitors influence other monitors correctly
18:53 <philippeqc> finally!
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18:54 <epsy> wd philippeqc :)
18:54 <philippeqc> that should be worth checking-out and compiling
18:54 <K-Yo> forget my |x|forums account, your change profile page doesn't work T.T
18:54 <philippeqc> thanks epsy
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18:55 <epsy> oh fuck
18:55 <epsy> what's the error message
18:55 <K-Yo> indeed
18:55 <philippeqc> there will be some clean-up to do, but the important thing is that lots of stuff works
18:55 <K-Yo> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ',' in /home/.lynn/xclan/xclan.armagetron.co.uk/includes/ucp/ucp_profile.php on line 118
18:55 <philippeqc> what erro rmessage ?
18:55 <epsy> K-Yo,
18:55 <K-Yo> epsy,
18:55 <epsy> what's the error message
18:55 <K-Yo> <K-Yo> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ',' in /home/.lynn/xclan/xclan.armagetron.co.uk/includes/ucp/ucp_profile.php on line 118
18:56 <epsy> oh stupid me
18:56 <philippeqc> a server is available for you to try (zonev2 test)
18:56 <K-Yo> what is it philippeqc ?
18:57 <philippeqc> the latest fix on the code for zone v2
18:57 <K-Yo> oh
18:57 <philippeqc> on the 0.3 development branch
18:57 <epsy> K-Yo, try now
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18:58 <K-Yo> philippeqc, 404
18:58 <philippeqc> yeah i know, about to post the map
18:58 <K-Yo> epsy, works
18:58 <philippeqc> darn, didnt think u'd compile that fast
18:58 <epsy> ok
18:58 <z-man> philippeqc: sorry for mangling zv2 :) But getting v1 back to work was our priority.
18:58 <epsy> K-Yo, when you have time check if k-yo@x works ;)
18:59 <K-Yo> epsy, SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
18:59 <K-Yo> Unknown column 'new_md5' in 'field list' [1054]
18:59 <philippeqc> z-man no no, do not worry at all. I really understand, and I'm quite gratefull you did that. Lots less stress on my shoulders.
18:59 <epsy> philippeqc, compiling, i will test when i come back
18:59 <epsy> er yes
18:59 <epsy> why did i damn copypaste
19:00 * z-man is out for dinner, hoping TST runs well
19:00 <epsy> K-Yo, that should be it
19:00 <K-Yo> yep
19:00 <K-Yo> worked
19:00 <epsy> and please test k-yo@x (lowercase)
19:00 <philippeqc> K-Yo
19:00 <philippeqc> K-Yo: now the map is available
19:00 <K-Yo> oh
19:01 <epsy> philippeqc, brb
19:01 <philippeqc> k epsy
19:01 <K-Yo> philippeqc, XML validation error
19:01 <philippeqc> grr, impossible
19:02 <K-Yo> :58: element Rotation: validity error No declaration for attribute rotation of elmement rottaition
19:02 <philippeqc> did you update your codebase?
19:02 <philippeqc> ooo, let me check that
19:02 <K-Yo> <Rotation rotation="-3.14:6.28 />
19:02 <K-Yo> the / seems to be a problem
19:02 <K-Yo> same for :66:
19:03 <K-Yo> & :68: and :94:
19:03 <philippeqc> <Rotation rotation="-3.14:6.28" />
19:03 <philippeqc> that should be the line 58
19:03 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: checkout in progress.
19:03 <K-Yo> epsy, local user k-yo not found
19:04 <philippeqc> did a quote get lots on geocities?
19:04 <philippeqc> <Rotation rotation="-3.14:6.28"/>
19:05 <philippeqc> K-Yo: what is the output of svn info /resource/proto/map-0.3.1-a.dtd
19:05 <philippeqc> K-Yo: what is the output of "svn info /resource/proto/map-0.3.1-a.dtd"
19:05 <philippeqc> adjust the path accordingly
19:06 <philippeqc> should be version 7986
19:08 <K-Yo> the output?
19:08 <K-Yo> where do you want me to type that?
19:08 <K-Yo> epsy, url authentication x invalid
19:08 <wrtlprnft> i think he just wants the revision
19:09 <philippeqc> k-yo did you check-out the code, or did you just tried to join the server with an old client?
19:09 <wrtlprnft> Revision: 7986
19:09 <philippeqc> ty wrt
19:09 <K-Yo> I just tried to join the server
19:09 <wrtlprnft> the ed map i have still doesn't work for me, though
19:09 <K-Yo> with a revision
19:10 <K-Yo> I don't know which one
19:10 <philippeqc> sorry K-Yo, that wont work
19:10 <philippeqc> you need the absolute latest client
19:10 <K-Yo> alpha 20080210
19:10 <philippeqc> fresh from 15 minutes ago
19:10 <K-Yo> ok i dl it then :p
19:10 <K-Yo> he's on wrtl folder?
19:11 <philippeqc> darn, got kicked off my server
19:11 <K-Yo> :P
19:11 <K-Yo> philippeqc, where can I get the revision?
19:12 <K-Yo> on the beta site there only is r7979
19:12 <philippeqc> with the svn version
19:12 <philippeqc> on the branch for version 0.3
19:13 <K-Yo> is there any exe?
19:14 <philippeqc> no
19:14 <K-Yo> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad?view=rev&sortby=date&revision=7986
19:14 <philippeqc> not yet
19:14 <K-Yo> oh
19:14 <K-Yo> I can't compile here
19:15 <philippeqc> i'm on linux here
19:15 <philippeqc> cant compile to windows for you :(
19:16 <K-Yo> :'(
19:16 <K-Yo> it's ok ;)
19:16 <K-Yo> i'll try ur zones later
19:16 <K-Yo> tell me
19:16 <K-Yo> what changed?
19:17 <philippeqc> humm, monitors can now influence monitors
19:18 <philippeqc> and in general, zones updates should be a tad nicer on the network
19:20 <wrtlprnft> MAP_FILE ed/zones_v2/hammertime-0.0.1.aamap.xml(http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ed/zones_v2/hammertime-0.0.2.aamap.xml)
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19:23 <philippeqc> cya wrtlprnft
19:24 <epsy> philippeqc, i have some time
19:24 <philippeqc> wrt was leaving
19:24 <philippeqc> i'm staying
19:24 <philippeqc> compiling
19:26 <philippeqc> done
19:26 <wrtlprnft> epsy: tst is right now, right?
19:26 <epsy> orly?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> err
19:27 <wrtlprnft> 20:30 GMT
19:27 <epsy> it'sw in 2 hours normally
19:27 <wrtlprnft> is in 3 minutes
19:27 <wrtlprnft> err
19:27 <wrtlprnft> argh
19:27 <epsy> wait you are kidding me
19:27 * wrtlprnft ← stupid
19:27 <wrtlprnft> #unload time
19:27 <epsy> pf
19:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
19:27 <wrtlprnft> #load Time2
19:27 <wrtlprnft> #gmtime
19:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
19:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 06:28 PM, February 17, 2008
19:28 <philippeqc> it is 7 :30 pm now
19:28 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: that's GMT+1
19:28 <epsy> auth url x not fount
19:28 <philippeqc> k
19:28 <epsy> found*
19:29 <philippeqc> epsy, going for a walk, the server is up.
19:29 <philippeqc> the green arrow cannot be affected directly
19:30 <epsy> ok
19:30 <philippeqc> but it follows the blue one at double the rate
19:30 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: anyways, try that map i pointed you to in single player mode, without AIs in freestyle mode
19:30 <philippeqc> so its a demo of zone affecting a monitor affecting a monitor affecting a zone
19:30 <epsy> what happened to http://x.authentication.armagetronad.net/ ?
19:30 <wrtlprnft> the green zone *should* be small at the beginning
19:31 <philippeqc> yeah, tried hammer time when ed published it
19:31 <philippeqc> bbl
19:31 <wrtlprnft> epsy: should be working again
19:31 <wrtlprnft> epsy: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart doesn't wait long enough for me after stopping the server
19:31 <epsy> *phew*
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19:38 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: http://resource.armagetron.at/resource/ ← works now, in case you ever need it
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19:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, btw, if you can fix the the player_team_message bug... :/
19:43 <wrtlprnft> it's not fixed yet?
19:44 <wrtlprnft> err, i'll fix it
19:44 <epsy> well maybe you fixed it, i didn't restart the serv
19:44 <wrtlprnft> well, i compiled the latest rev
19:44 <epsy> with spectator chat? :P
19:45 <wrtlprnft> and SUSPEND
19:45 * wrtlprnft mentions DEDICATED_IDLE again
19:45 <wrtlprnft> you'd have had the new version already
19:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft, well, because of the inotail process, restarting the server automatically doesn't work
19:46 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, indeed thx ;)
19:47 <wrtlprnft> K-Yo: it updates every ten minutes i think. It's an actual mirror of luke-jr_'s server and is supposed to be used if you go to resource.aa.net. I just gave it another domain that's not as messed up as luke's stuff
19:48 <K-Yo> ok
19:49 <K-Yo> xfroggy, u spent 32 hours on tron since feb 2nd.
19:50 <K-Yo> eer 23
19:50 <xfroggy> well thanks, after you pointed that out, I believe I shall stop playing it from now on :D
19:50 <K-Yo> i did 1 day 15 hours :S
19:50 * K-Yo must be sick
19:50 <xfroggy> :D
19:50 <flex> i plan on taking a break after the tst.. i can't take all this hassle with fps anymore :p
19:51 <flex> I'm just gona buy a super computer and be done with fps
19:51 <epsy> well i just got a big fps increase with display lists
19:51 <flex> as i'll be up 9000fps so it should be ok
19:51 <epsy> http://novicious.com/twatch/?q=%A6%D7%A6epsy
19:51 <epsy> blah
19:52 <epsy> i should spend less time on spec
19:53 <flex> haha, i spend exactly 2hours in sumo, nexus and fort
19:53 <flex> but i've been spending an extra 2hours more on sumo..
19:59 <K-Yo> epsy, le tst c 20:30 GMT+1 right?
19:59 <epsy> non c'est à 20:30 GMT
20:01 <epsy> wrtlprnft, did you fix it?
20:02 <K-Yo> sur xclan il y a marqué: All times are UTC + 1 hour sur la page du challenge board
20:03 <wrtlprnft> epsy: what?
20:03 <epsy> sa c phpbb
20:03 <wrtlprnft> the teamchat bug was fixed by z-man
20:03 <epsy> K-Yo, dans les règles il est dit que le temps de réf est GMT
20:03 <K-Yo> ok
20:03 <K-Yo> mais bon, ca porte a confusion
20:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, so if i restart the serv everything is fine?
20:03 <K-Yo> pour checker j'ai juste regardé le challenge board
20:04 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it should be
20:04 <wrtlprnft> try on café
20:04 <wrtlprnft> same code
20:06 <epsy> ok it works
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20:10 <epsy> wrtlprnft, didn't work on x sumo
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20:46 <epsy> #sd man
20:46 <armabot> epsy: icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net: Players (0/16):
20:46 <epsy> #sd man TST
20:46 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “man tst” at the moment, sorry.
20:46 <K-Yo> #sd "-man"
20:46 <armabot> K-Yo: Z-Man's TST Server: Players (0/32):
20:46 <K-Yo> .ls K-Yo
20:47 <K-Yo> #lastseen K-Yo
20:47 <armabot> K-Yo: cT¤K-Yo has last been seen on ¦×¦.TeamSumoTournament.Server 1 minute ago.
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21:09 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: is it possible to use a different font for each widget?
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21:38 <farbenfroh> wooo connected from my nintendo ds (:
21:38 <farbenfroh> sup n00bs
21:39 <farbenfroh> u all on tst?
21:39 <farbenfroh> :I
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21:45 <farbenfroh> core dumps ~*<y<lo*~ for 30 points.
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21:50 <farbenfroh> 5_5
21:54 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: not yet
21:55 <Self_Destructo> wrtlprnft: what's taking you so long :p
21:55 <farbenfroh> tst ptolly
21:55 <farbenfroh> prolly
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21:57 <wrtlprnft> Self_Destructo: fonts aren't even really objects right now.
21:57 <wrtlprnft> most stuff is in global/static functions
21:58 <Self_Destructo> i see
21:58 <farbenfroh> anybody trying to port arma for the nds? ^-^
22:02 <wrtlprnft> not really
22:03 * wrtlprnft doesn't even own one
22:03 <farbenfroh> i send u one if u do xD
22:04 <wrtlprnft> i don't know if it can even do 3d
22:04 <wrtlprnft> or the kind of 3d we need
22:04 <farbenfroh> but probably better port it to the pandora linux handheld
22:04 <farbenfroh> opengl es
22:04 <farbenfroh> sort of
22:05 <farbenfroh> it should be possible - but lot of porting work i think
22:05 <wrtlprnft> i probably don't have time for that kind of project
22:06 <farbenfroh> heh nvm but check pandora handheld - coming this spring - looks promising
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22:06 <farbenfroh> should be able to run x11 e.g.
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22:07 <wrtlprnft> sounds neat
22:07 <wrtlprnft> opengl 2.0
22:07 <farbenfroh> ye (:
22:07 <wrtlprnft> that's way better than this machine i'm on right now
22:07 <farbenfroh> lol
22:08 <wrtlprnft> two sd card slots
22:08 <wrtlprnft> well, if it runs on windows and has a regular keyboard it can't be all that hard
22:08 <farbenfroh> its got nice specs, lets see how it turns out to be
22:09 <wrtlprnft> the screen res is reasonable, too
22:10 <farbenfroh> yes, heh got hooked?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> http://www.openpandora.org/ is a bit … thin …
22:11 <flex> epsy?
22:11 <flex> here?
22:11 <farbenfroh> yea - theres a wiki for the project
22:11 <flex> what's happening with the tst.. are people still playing?
22:12 <wrtlprnft> i especially like the unbrickable design part
22:12 <wrtlprnft> hacking routers and mp3 players always feels risky
22:12 <farbenfroh> lol
22:12 <wrtlprnft> #ss tst
22:12 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Z-Man's TST Server, MATCH IN PROGRESS: Sorry, I won't connect to any server outside the port range of 4534–4540.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> argh, darn you
22:12 <flex> iz cool
22:13 <flex> i just looked now
22:13 <flex> we're through :D
22:13 <flex> on the 3rd round
22:13 <farbenfroh> true, finals?
22:13 <flex> not yet
22:13 <farbenfroh> kk
22:13 <StickyNoob> wrtlprnft: provided your firmware wasnt programmed by fuckwits most things are unbrickable
22:13 <flex> it was close though on the second round for us, but we lost it
22:13 <flex> unbrickable? :p
22:13 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: talk about experimental stuff
22:14 <StickyNoob> flex: you cant put it into a state where it you cant restore factory firmware
22:14 <wrtlprnft> brick = thing that used to be some piece of technical equipment but was flashed the wrong way and is now nothing more than a paperweight
22:14 <farbenfroh> hacking mum's washing mashine and stuff xD
22:15 <farbenfroh> wait it runs on winCE (:
22:15 <StickyNoob> flex: most devices have a boot loader that cant be changed or overridden hence that prevents you bricking it
22:15 <StickyNoob> altho i did flash a robot in such a way that it sudo bricked it, was very close
22:16 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: well, most of these restrictions can be circumvented somehow
22:16 <farbenfroh> u'd need sort of a virtual bootloader
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22:16 <farbenfroh> for unbrickable design
22:16 <StickyNoob> wrtlprnft: the bootloader is a good protection feature not a restriction
22:16 <farbenfroh> depends
22:17 <wrtlprnft> i'm just saying that you can still brick it
22:17 <StickyNoob> yeah
22:17 <wrtlprnft> i could brick my laptop, too, by messing up its BIOS
22:17 <flex> i thought you could just clear bios..
22:17 <farbenfroh> if it still runs on good 0ld bios..
22:18 <StickyNoob> wrtlprnft: but there should also be a boot loader that CANNOT be cleaned out the bios, so there will always be a way to flash on a funtional bios
22:18 * wrtlprnft has no clue about that
22:18 <farbenfroh> x)
22:19 <StickyNoob> on most chips you have to know what you are doing to overwrite the loader, the chances of doing it by accident are one in a billion
22:19 <wrtlprnft> any ideas as to how much this thing is going to cost?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> StickyNoob: i'm not talking about accidents
22:20 <farbenfroh> around 250 eur
22:20 <wrtlprnft> well, not that kind of accident, anyways
22:20 <StickyNoob> ok with malicious code from an informed source anything is possible
22:21 <farbenfroh> well put
22:21 <farbenfroh> (:
22:21 <wrtlprnft> not even malicious, just broken
22:22 <StickyNoob> thats the point tho, you cant realy do it unless you intend to
22:22 <farbenfroh> its from the team that made the gp2x
22:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: http://ratings.armagetronad.net/
22:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: 403
22:24 <farbenfroh> k im out, cu on the grid n00bs (:
22:25 * farbenfroh left the game.
22:25 <farbenfroh> x)
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22:30 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7987 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/render/rGL.cpp: I just read that you're supposed to call glGetError until it stops returning errors. I guess it can't hurt to do so.
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22:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: i hate the rule that there can't be any teammate changes
22:41 <wrtlprnft> especially no subs
22:42 <wrtlprnft> i had two “teams” that were alone
22:42 <epsy> i know...but don't you think having fixed teams is less stressful for the organizers and for the server admins?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> i don't know, it was more stressful to answer “no” to people asking if they could play
22:44 <wrtlprnft> and i didn't like the match essentially being played out between two teams
22:44 <epsy> i understand..
22:44 <wrtlprnft> i don't really mind if someone doesn't have a teammate and agrees to play with someone else
22:45 <epsy> well, i'm open to discuss that in the feedback section
22:45 <wrtlprnft> obviously, if neither teammate shows up the match is played with one team less
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23:12 <armabot> lpbugs: [192760] When player leaves in the middle of a round, their wall continues to stay
23:22 <armabot> lpbugs: [192766] Cycle turn sound doesn't play until until player dies
23:33 <zmanuel> Argh! Bugs!
23:33 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
23:33 <flex> I hate you
23:33 <flex> so much!
23:36 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7988 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed UNSUSPEND.
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