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--- Day changed Sat Feb 09 2008
00:00 <wrtlprnft> *insert praise of CODELEVEL=2 and make>/dev/null here*
00:00 <wrtlprnft> *for
00:01 <luke-jr> O.o
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00:02 <guru3> z-man: true on a turn and false on death?
00:06  * guru3 starts dreaming of teleportation zones
00:07 <luke-jr> wind!
00:07 <luke-jr> or maybe tornados!
00:07 <luke-jr> that scramble walls and send cycles spinning!
00:07 <guru3> we can call them ZapZones for short
00:08 <luke-jr> can cycle-made walls be moved?
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00:46 <z-man> No, walls can't be moved once they are in the grid datastructure. You'd have to destroy and recreate them.
00:47 <luke-jr> ☹
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02:07 <flex>  ☹
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05:45 <nooby> hi
05:46 <nooby> hello?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> hello
05:46 <nooby> hi
05:47 <Stewie-arma> How You Doin?
05:47 <nooby> do you know where screenshots are kept?
05:47 <Stewie-arma> oh xfroggy the good ol' days
05:47 <nooby> good, you?
05:47 <nooby> ?
05:47 <Stewie-arma> good.
05:48 <nooby> do you know where screenshots are kept?
05:48 <nooby> from arma
05:50 <Stewie-arma> nope
05:50 <Stewie-arma> I used to
05:50 <Stewie-arma> but then I quit playing tron.
06:09 <nooby> aww
06:09 <nooby> well ty anyway
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06:44 <Stewie-arma> I'm sure someone else will know
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07:27 <luke-jr> lol
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11:13 <z-man> Hah! I overtook Luci on the top contributors list.
11:14 <z-man> Looks like adding blueprints to milestones is really lucrative.
11:33 <Bougo> :o
11:35 -!- Bougo is now known as MrBougo
11:35  * luke-jr already knew z-man was top contributor
11:41 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7815 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_eclipse/ (. Makefile): added "nothing" target.
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11:43 <kidanger> Hi epsy
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11:45 <epsy> hi
11:45 <kidanger> epsy: mon serveur marche, merci :)
11:45 <epsy> ah, de rien
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11:49 <luke-jr> french sux!
11:49 <luke-jr> :o j/k
11:50 <MrBougo> #crasylate french sucks
11:50 <MrBougo> #crazylate french sucks
11:50 <armabot> MrBougo: the French aspires
11:50 <MrBougo> yes armabot
11:50 <epsy> LOL!
11:51 <MrBougo> #crazylate micro soft sucks bad
11:51 <armabot> MrBougo: the smoothness micro aspires bad
11:51 <MrBougo> #crazylate luke junior
11:51 <armabot> MrBougo: Young people of Lucas
11:52 <MrBougo> #crazylate Topic for #armagetron is: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/blah | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | AFL discussion is in #afl , most of the time anyhow | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/
11:52 <armabot> MrBougo: The subject for # armagetron is: The last version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/blah | Gentoo? endecha - armagetron of ka | the AFL discussion is in # afl, most of the time anyway | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | registries: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/
11:52 <MrBougo> #crazylate layman -ka armagetron
11:52 <armabot> MrBougo: endecha - armagetron of ka
11:52 <MrBougo> what the
11:53 <MrBougo> #crazylate a r m a g e t r o n advanced
11:53 <armabot> MrBougo: a r m that a g and a t r or n advanced
11:54 <luke-jr> #crazylate mister bougo is a nut case
11:54 <armabot> luke-jr: bougo of the rider is a box of the nut
11:54 <luke-jr> lol
11:54 <MrBougo> totally
11:55 <luke-jr> #crazylate [04:19:58] <z-man> Hah! I overtook Luci on the top contributors list. Looks like adding blueprints to milestones is really lucrative.
11:55 <armabot> luke-jr: [ 04:19:58 ] Hah! I reached superior Luci in the list of the contribuidores. Watching the addition of models ace the pulls plows really lucrative.
11:55 <MrBougo> #crazylate [insight]
11:55 <luke-jr> where did z-man's name go? :o
11:55 <MrBougo> no idea
11:55 <armabot> MrBougo: The inescapable decomposition of the modern life will incapacitate all the hope of the world-wide Web.
11:55 <luke-jr> wtf?
11:56 <luke-jr> #crazylate [fortune]
11:56 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
11:56 <luke-jr> #crazylate [rating luke-jr]
11:56 <luke-jr> liar
11:56 <MrBougo> #fortune
11:56 <armabot> luke-jr: Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr is 690o with a degree 1449-1543 (in date 1450-1542)
11:56 <armabot> Random Fortune: Q: How do you know when you're in the section of Vermont? || A: The maple sap buckets are hanging on utility poles.
11:56 <MrBougo> wow
11:56 <luke-jr> #crazylate [fortune]
11:56 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
11:56 <luke-jr> wtf
11:56 <MrBougo> sup Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr?
11:56 <luke-jr> stfu MrBougo
11:56 <luke-jr> #crazylate [fortune]
11:57 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
11:57 <luke-jr> ☹
11:57 <MrBougo> #crazylate Q: How do you know when you're in the section of Vermont?  A: The maple sap buckets are hanging on utility poles.
11:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Q: How you know when you you are in the section of Vermont? A: The buckets of the sap of the maple are hanging in posts for the general use.
11:57 <luke-jr> sweet, they're for general use⁈
11:57 <luke-jr> #crazylate ☹
11:57 <armabot> luke-jr: ¹ of ˜ of â
11:57 <MrBougo> wow
11:58 <MrBougo> #crazylate The Boeing 747 is the first widebody commercial airliner ever produced. The Boeing 747, manufactured by Boeing in the United States, is among the world's most recognizable aircraft.
11:58 <luke-jr> #crazylate [12:52:29] <wrtlprnft> maybe to avoid people who use grep -r reinterpret_cast src | wc -l as a measure of quality
11:58 <armabot> MrBougo: Boeing 747 is first reprimand widebody of him he he he he it airplane of the always produced passenger. Boeing 747, done by Boeing in the United States, is between him he he he he it airplane reconocible of the world.
11:58 <luke-jr> MrBougo: wtf
11:58 <MrBougo> lololol
11:58 <armabot> luke-jr: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
11:58 <luke-jr> he he he he he
11:58 <luke-jr> armabot: aaaa screw you
11:58 <luke-jr> #crazylate [12:52:29] <wrtlprnft> maybe to avoid people who use grep -r reinterpret_cast src | wc -l as a measure of quality
11:59 <armabot> luke-jr: perhaps [ 12:52:29 ] avoids people who use grep - src of reinterpret_cast of r | wc - l like the quality measurement
11:59 <MrBougo> i guess <> are comments
11:59 <MrBougo> #crazylate micro soft <sucks>
11:59 <epsy> html tags
11:59 <armabot> MrBougo: smoothness micro
11:59 <MrBougo> aye epsy
12:00 <luke-jr> #crazylate [cyborg epsy] is a [cyborg html] tag!
12:00 <epsy> its done so so you can throw a webpage to it
12:00 <armabot> luke-jr: E.P.S.Y.: The expert electronic person in griterío is a H.T.M.L.: Dangerous label of Lifeform of trouble-shooting and the mathematics!
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12:02 <MrBougo> #crazylate Did you know that ethnographer Eric Mjöberg, leader of the first Swedish scientific expedition to Western Australia's Kimberley region, smuggled out indigenous human remains and that 90 years later, Sweden returned all 18 boxes of them?
12:02 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
12:02 <MrBougo> #crazylate Did you know that ethnographer Eric Mjöberg, leader of the first Swedish scientific expedition to Western Australia's Kimberley region, smuggled out indigenous human remains and that 90 years later, Sweden returned all 18 boxes of them?
12:02 <armabot> MrBougo: You knew that when to ethnographer Eric Mjöberg, the to leader of the first Swedish scientific expedition to the region of Kimberley of western Australia, happened of the contraband outside the natural human of the rest and those 90 years she advanced dwells, Sweden returned the 18 boxes from them?
12:02 <luke-jr> #crazylate [cyborg abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz]
12:02 <MrBougo> oh noes
12:03 <armabot> luke-jr: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
12:03 <MrBougo> #crazylate [cyborg lllllllll]
12:03 <luke-jr> #crazylate [cyborg abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz]
12:03 <armabot> MrBougo: L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.L.: Realistic mortal Lifeform limited to learn, to the logical law and the linguistic lúcida
12:03 <armabot> luke-jr: The names cannot have dwells than 10 letters. Incorporate to another name please.
12:03 <MrBougo> hahahahaa
12:03 <luke-jr> jerk
12:03 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
12:03 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.
12:03 <MrBougo> pwnt
12:03 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg wwwwwwwww
12:03 <luke-jr> uhoh
12:03 <armabot> wrtlprnft: W.W.W.W.W.W.W.W.W.: Wireless Watchful Worker Wanting Worldwide Warfare, Wrecking and Widespread Wayfaring
12:03 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft is here to ruin our fun ☹
12:03 <luke-jr> #crazylate [cyborg abcdefghij] [cyborg klmnopqrs] [cyborg tuvwxyz]
12:03 <MrBougo> #cyborg jjjjjjjj
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12:04 <luke-jr> poor wireddd
12:04 <luke-jr> he will get so confused by this
12:04 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg kkkkkkkkkk
12:04 <epsy> lol
12:04 <armabot> luke-jr: A.B.C.D.E.F.G.H.I.J.: Artificial Biomechanic of the construction designed to the efficient fight, the galactic damage and immediate judo K.L.M.N.O.P.Q.R.S.: Kinetic Lifeform done for the observation at night, to request and rational sabotage T.U.V.W.X.Y.Z. of the potential: Technician used for the violence, the world-wide Xenocide and annual zoology
12:04 <armabot> MrBougo: J.J.J.J.J.J.J.J.: Journeying Juggernaut Justified for Judo, Justified Jobs and Jeopardous Jealousy
12:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.: Kinetic Knowledgable Knight Keen on Kamikaze Killing, Kingly Kindness and Knavish Kissing
12:04 <epsy> hahah
12:04 <MrBougo> #wisdom
12:05 <luke-jr> Artificial Biomechanic of the construction designed to the efficient fight, the galactic damage and immediate judo Kinetic Lifeform done for the observation at night, to request and rational sabotage of the potential: Technician used for the violence, the world-wide Xenocide and annual zoology
12:05 <epsy> MrBougo, she's a blonde
12:05 <MrBougo> nah
12:05 <MrBougo> shes slow
12:05 <MrBougo> thats it
12:05 <MrBougo> wisdom will come soon
12:05 <MrBougo> trust me
12:06 <luke-jr> #crazylate In everything, we are destroyers--even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief…We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.
12:06 <MrBougo> wtf luke-jr ?
12:06 <armabot> luke-jr: In everything, we are destructive -- even in the instruments of the destruction to which we give the return for the Jews of relief…We, the destroyers, we will continue being the destroyers for always. Nothing that you will do you to him you will solve to our necessities and demands.
12:06 <luke-jr> lol
12:06 <wrtlprnft> #crazylate [crazylate [crazylate [crazylate [insight]]]]
12:06 <luke-jr> meh
12:06 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: that wont work
12:06 <luke-jr> armabot didn't make it funny ☹
12:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
12:06 <wrtlprnft> aww.
12:07 <MrBougo> #help babelize
12:07 <luke-jr> #crazylate debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 4 win 65536 max 16384
12:07 <armabot> MrBougo: (babelize <from-language> <to-language> <text>) -- Translates <text> repeatedly between <from-language> and <to-language> until it doesn't change anymore or 12 times, whichever is fewer. One of the languages must be English.
12:07 <MrBougo> #crazylate [crazylate [crazylate [crazylate luke-jr]]]
12:07 <armabot> luke-jr: debug1: they client_input_channel_open: 16384 rchan maximum of desire 65536 of ctype x11 4
12:07 <armabot> MrBougo: Lucas-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr-jr
12:07 <luke-jr> #crazylate We have dedicated to the welfare of the noble English nation no small portion of the Apostolic care and charity by which, helped by His grace, we endeavor to fulfill the office and follow in the footsteps of "the Great Pastor of the sheep," Our Lord Jesus Christ. The letter which last year we sent to the English seeking the Kingdom of Christ in the unity of the faith is a special witness of our good will towards
12:07 <luke-jr> England.
12:08 <MrBougo> lol England.
12:08 <armabot> luke-jr: We have not dedicated to the well-being of the noble English nation any small portion of the apostolic care and the charity by which, helped by its tolerance, we gave an attack to satisfy the office and to follow in the passages of the great shepherd of the ewes, our Mr. Jesus Christ. The to letter which we sent the last one of the to year to the for English that it looked the kingdom of (1 more message)
12:08 <luke-jr> LOL
12:08 <MrBougo> lol did i read it right?
12:08 <MrBougo> Mr. Jesus Christ
12:08 <MrBougo> #more luke-jr
12:08 <armabot> MrBougo: Christ in the unit of the faith is to special witness of our good will towards
12:08 <luke-jr> #crazylate Lord Luke-Jr
12:08 <MrBougo> where is my wisdom
12:09 <armabot> luke-jr: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
12:09 <luke-jr> #crazylate Lord Luke-Jr
12:09 <epsy> MrBougo, ^^
12:09 <MrBougo> #crazylate Lord Luke Junior
12:09 <armabot> luke-jr: Mr. Luke-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr - Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr-Jr
12:09 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Lucas Junior
12:10 <luke-jr> #crazylate I realized the moment I fell into the Fissure that the Book would not be destroyed as I had planned. It continued falling into that starry expanse of which I caught only a fleeting glimpse. I have tried to speculate where it might have landed, but I must admit that such conjecture is futile. Still, questions about whose hands may one day hold my Myst Book are unsettling to me. I realize my apprehensions might never be
12:10 <luke-jr> allayed, and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been Written.
12:10 <MrBougo> #crazylate [insight] [insight] [insight]
12:10 <MrBougo> <luke-jr> England.
12:11 <armabot> luke-jr: I made the moment that I fell in the crack that the book would not be destroyed because it had slipped. It continued lowering in what extension starry while that the one that that the one that I only took to ephemeral glance. I have tried to speculate where it can be that it has landed, but I must admit that such conjecture is useless. Nevertheless, the questions on which can the hands that (1 more message)
12:11 <armabot> MrBougo: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
12:11 <MrBougo> haha because it had slipped
12:11 <luke-jr> ]more
12:11 <MrBougo> #more luke-jr
12:11 <armabot> MrBougo: have been the day to take to the grasping of the taking my book of séame disquieting of Myst. Hago that my apprehensions could never be
12:11 <luke-jr> WTF
12:11 <MrBougo> lol
12:11 <MrBougo> i want wisdom
12:11 <MrBougo> #markov
12:14 <luke-jr> #crazylate If you give Sirrus the final red page or give Achenar the final blue page, then you and he will switch places. They will then laugh as they rip out the pages, and the static will return, leaving you trapped inside the Prison book. (Regardless of how many pages you have given either brother throughout the game, the last page will always trigger the final cutscene.)
12:14 <armabot> luke-jr: If you give to Sirrus the final red page or gives to Achenar the final blue page, then you and he will change places. Then they will laugh as they tear them outside the pages, and the atmospheric disturbances will return, leaving it catched within the book of the prison (without mattering how many pages you have given to any brother through the game, the last page will lead always final of (1 more message)
12:14 <luke-jr> #more
12:14 <armabot> luke-jr: cutscene.)
12:15 <luke-jr> that one sucked
12:15 <MrBougo>  and the atmospheric disturbances will return
12:16 <MrBougo> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Magic_Brownie
12:16 <MrBougo> wtf?
12:17 <epsy> 4g cannabis haha
12:17 <MrBougo> #crazylate For the best results, refrigerate the brownies until they are cooled completely. Use the foil hanging over the edges as handles to remove the baked brownies from the pan (this requires some care as the brownies are not solid at this point). Fold the foil over the top so that the brownies are covered top and bottom with foil, and then put the whole thing in the refrigerator until cooled (feel the bottom center if yo
12:17 <MrBougo> u aren't sure). This prevents the edges from overcooking while allowing the center to finish baking and cool. If you omit this step, you may end up with an undercooked center and/or overcooked edges.
12:17 <armabot> MrBougo: For the best results, it recovers the brownies until they recover totally. Use the leaf that hangs in the edges as handles to clear the brownies cooked to the furnace of the casserole (this one requires the strong box a care well-taken from because the brownies are not solid to this point). The double in the cover to cover the covered brownies and the inferior leaf with the leaf, and more (1 more message)
12:17 <MrBougo> #more
12:17 <armabot> MrBougo: later puts the whole thing in the refrigerator until it recovers (feels the inferior center if I
12:18  * luke-jr gets bored.
12:18 <MrBougo> The double in the cover to cover the covered brownies
12:18 <MrBougo> wtf
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12:24 <luke-jr> MrBougo: you owe me brownies
12:25 <MrBougo> magic?
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12:57 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i guess it isn't a problem with your current settings, but teammates can tag each other and get points for doing so
12:59 <K-Yo> #si tag
12:59 <armabot> K-Yo: Tag Test: Players (1/16): wrtlprnft |mbc|
13:04 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: i asked for a wisdom
13:04 <MrBougo> i got nothing
13:04 <MrBougo> :(
13:11 <wrtlprnft> #wisdom
13:11 <wrtlprnft> #insight
13:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The nauseating prospects of modern life will escalate all of our human psyche.
13:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7816 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gExplosion.cpp src/tron/gExplosion.h): Moved game end code from DoRemoveFromGame to OnRemoveFromGame. Base class is now eReferencableGameObject.
13:14 <zmanuel> #later tell epsy When MOVE_TO banned you, was there a negative ban offset?
13:14 <armabot> zmanuel: The operation succeeded.
13:14 <epsy> a negative man offset?
13:14 <epsy> ban*
13:14 <zmanuel> yes.
13:14 <zmanuel> That's the one condition I see where it would autoban you.
13:14 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
13:19 <epsy> [0] NETWORK_AUTOBAN_OFFSET is currently set to -0.05.
13:19 <z-man> Ah, good :)
13:20 <epsy> jeez also is freezing every app out there
13:20 <epsy> *alsa
13:20 <epsy> brb
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13:27 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7817 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp): MOVE_TO no longer calls nMachine::OnKick; although it did so with zero severity, and that should have had no effect, it's better not to call it at all.
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13:40 <wrtlprnft> static void se_AdminLogin_ReallyOnlyCallFromChatKTHNXBYE( ePlayerNetID * p, std::istream & s )
13:40  * wrtlprnft loves finding little gems in arma
13:40 <cusco> so now its bazar
13:40 <wrtlprnft> and svn
13:41 <cusco> svn still uvailable
13:41 <cusco> ah ok
13:41  * cusco hasn't read anything about bzr yet
13:41 <wrtlprnft> i only know that gentoo doesn't have a current version of it
13:41 <wrtlprnft> which sucks
13:41 <cusco> lol
13:41 <pippijn> are there any template gurus around?
13:41 <cusco> im going to checkout latest revision
13:41 <cusco> is it playable?
13:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:42 <wrtlprnft> even the trunk is
13:42 <cusco> ok
13:42 <cusco> yes I meant the trunk
13:45 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: do you know templates?
13:46 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: trunk is finally? :o
13:47 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: well some of it
13:47 <wrtlprnft> don't expect me to know the fine details
13:47 <luke-jr> I touched templates once!
13:47 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: well, you can play on all servers with it
13:47 <z-man> It's simple, zones v2 got a new network identifier.
13:47 <wrtlprnft> z-man: oh, did you do that already?
13:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: since when? :o
13:47 <z-man> zones v1 are still around with the old id.
13:47 <luke-jr> ah, the v1 code is back?
13:48 <z-man> wrtlprnft, luke-jr: yes.
13:48 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: http://pip.one09.net/files/up/client.C.txt
13:48  * wrtlprnft must have missed that commit
13:48 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what you mean about no recent bazaar in Gentoo?
13:48 <z-man> I'll still need to merge all the v1 changes from 0.2.8 to the trunk version.
13:48 <luke-jr>      Available versions:  0.17 ~1.1 {bash-completion curl emacs sftp test}
13:48 <luke-jr> webpage says 1.1 is latest
13:48 <luke-jr> "Bazaar 1.1 was released on the 15th of January, 2008"
13:48  * wrtlprnft never tried if a trunk server with v1 zones actually works
13:49 <wrtlprnft> hmm
13:49 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: look at the bottom of that file..
13:50 <pippijn> the comments explain
13:50 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: ah, good
13:50 <pippijn> I get a warning and I don't know what it means
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13:53 <wrtlprnft> for one thing, it doesn't warn me with -Wall and g++ 4.1.2
13:54 <luke-jr> pippijn probably has 4.3 ;p
13:54 <pippijn> it's from -Wabi
13:54 <luke-jr> O.o
13:56 <z-man> Well, it just means you'll get ABI problems.
13:56 <z-man> Ignorable unless you export your classes from a dynamic library.
13:56 <pippijn> I'd still like to know what I am doing wrong..
13:57 <wrtlprnft> struct A { };
13:57 <wrtlprnft> struct B { A a3_; A a2_; };
13:57 <wrtlprnft> int main() { B b; }
13:57 <z-man> Empty base classes.
13:58 <wrtlprnft> /tmp/test2.cpp:5: warning: 'B::a2_' contains empty classes which may cause base classes to be placed at different locations in a future version of GCC
13:58 <wrtlprnft> /tmp/test2.cpp: In function 'int main()':
13:58 <wrtlprnft> /tmp/test2.cpp:8: warning: unused variable 'b'
13:58 <wrtlprnft> z-man: not even base classes
13:58 <pippijn> z-man: I have no inheritance
13:58 <wrtlprnft> more than one empty class as member
13:58 <pippijn> hmm okay
13:58 <z-man> Base classes and members are almost the same.
13:58 <pippijn> I can prevent that..
13:58 <pippijn> but it would mean wasting memory
13:58 <pippijn> ah no it wouldn't
13:59 <pippijn> fixed it :-)
13:59 <pippijn> oh and it would waste memory :-\
13:59 <z-man> Give your library user an option for it :)
13:59 <pippijn> yes
13:59 <luke-jr> GCC developers know the future :o
13:59 <pippijn> they predict
14:00 <pippijn> gcc itself predicts, too
14:00 <pippijn> unless you tell it not to
14:00 <z-man> Well, maybe they know what they're doing now is not standards compliant?
14:00 <luke-jr> maybe
14:00 <pippijn> -mno-branch-predict
14:00 <luke-jr> or maybe they have a time machine
14:00  * luke-jr plots to steal it
14:00 <pippijn> :-)
14:01 <pippijn> by the way.. boost.signals don't work with gnu debug containers
14:01 <pippijn> it segfaults :-\
14:01 <wrtlprnft> what's a gnu debug container?
14:01 <pippijn> it checks whether you are doing things right
14:01 <pippijn> it throws if you try to dereference begin() for example
14:02 <z-man> std::nanny :)
14:02 <wrtlprnft> *someVector.begin() is wrong?
14:02 <z-man> begin()? not end()?
14:02 <luke-jr> what if you want to dereference begin()?
14:03 <pippijn> end(), yes..
14:03 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r7818 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. acinclude.m4): Made to work with vanilla unpatched zthread (-fpermisive test was broken)
14:04 <luke-jr> z-man: has anyone tested zthread's current state on Mac and Windows BTW?
14:04 <z-man> Not enabled, of course.
14:04 <wrtlprnft> don't run servers on windows.
14:05 <luke-jr> eh, I thought the point of the threading lib was portability?
14:05 <z-man> Yes, it is, but we won't be enabling armathentication in default builds on 0.2.8, as far as I can tell.
14:06 <wrtlprnft> why?
14:07 <wrtlprnft> if you set LEGACY_NAMES to 1 by default and don't permit global ID it behaves almost the same, right?
14:07 <z-man> Even tough it looks stable, I'd rate it at experimental for now.
14:07  * z-man won't be enabling LEGACY_NAMES by default.
14:07 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
14:08 <z-man> I'll see what I can do on Windows.
14:08  * luke-jr hopes the LEGACY_NAMES breakage doesn't affect non-armathentication builds
14:09 <z-man> Well, we can always remove it if enabling it causes trouble :)
14:09 <luke-jr> z-man: no, it's the enabled form that causes trouble
14:09 <wrtlprnft> exactly.
14:09 <wrtlprnft> let's remove it!
14:09 <luke-jr> disabled form can't cause trouble because it's what 0.2.8 has always been
14:09 <wrtlprnft> z-man: let's use luke-jr's misunderstanding as an excuse to remove it!
14:10 <luke-jr> err
14:10 <z-man> I already threatened to do that if he keeps bugging me.
14:10 <luke-jr> I'm reading enabled/disabled backward
14:10 <z-man> Which he is currently doing.
14:11 <z-man> luke-jr: I'm quite sure you read it correctly.
14:11 <z-man> enabled: authenticated names will be 0:user@authority
14:11 <z-man> disabled: non-authenticated names get @ escaped.
14:11 <luke-jr> ok, I was just *saying* it backward then
14:12 <z-man> ah, right :)
14:12 <z-man> Then I was auto-correcting what you said to what I knew you meant :)
14:12  * z-man adds mind reading to his skill set
14:12 <luke-jr> lol
14:13 <wrtlprnft> although it might be an idea to name authenticated people as authenticated:player_name@authority
14:13 <wrtlprnft> that would get rid of all ambiguities
14:13 <z-man> No, that's what the @ says.
14:13 <z-man> Any user with an unescaped @ is authenticated.
14:14 <luke-jr> that doesn't hold true for 0.2.8 releases thus far
14:14  * wrtlprnft notes again that 0: isn't safe, either
14:14 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: why not?
14:14 <z-man> authenticated: is even more unsafe.
14:14 <z-man> oh
14:15  * luke-jr remembers vaguely wrtlprnft saying soemthing like that before
14:15  * z-man just counted the letters :)
14:15 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8.0 doesn't escape teroes
14:15 <wrtlprnft> z-man: :D
14:15 <MrBougo> teroes?
14:15 <luke-jr> hm
14:15 <wrtlprnft> zeroes
14:15 <MrBougo> oh
14:15 <MrBougo> errr how did you make that typo :/
14:15  * luke-jr would be happy with insanely long usernames :þ
14:15 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: german keyboard
14:16 <MrBougo> qwertz
14:16 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: z and y are swapped
14:16 <MrBougo> right
14:16 <luke-jr> what is libpaper?
14:16 <MrBougo> hah
14:16 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: yeroes would be worse :-P
14:16 <MrBougo> :o
14:16 <z-man> I don't care what happens if LEGACY_NAMES is enabled. It's legacy. It will go away.
14:17 <MrBougo> WORRRK calling me
14:17 <luke-jr> sigh
14:18  * luke-jr makes note to self not to bother trying because z-man simply couldn't care less about breaking compatibility within minor releases
14:18  * luke-jr goes to bed
14:18 <wrtlprnft> z-man: good job.
14:19 <z-man> heh :)
14:19  * luke-jr notes he will have forgotten by the next time we chat
14:19 <luke-jr> so remind me, k?
14:19 <z-man> About what?
14:19 <luke-jr> …
14:19 <luke-jr> I forget
14:19 <z-man> changing 0: to authenticated: ?
14:20 <z-man> This will break your current database :)
14:20 <wrtlprnft> let's change it every day
14:20 <luke-jr> z-man: that was only for default
14:20 <wrtlprnft> today it's authenticated
14:20 <z-man> tomorrow armathenticated
14:20 <wrtlprnft> the day after that it's $%$§*+~#:
14:21  * luke-jr notes you're breaking a lot more than the rating stuff
14:21 <wrtlprnft> really?
14:21 <luke-jr> anyhow, 'night
14:21 <z-man> ooh, he's keeping us in suspense.
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14:38  * wrtlprnft just found out we still have 29 bits left in ePlayerNetID messages that we could use for flags
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15:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7819 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
15:20 <armabot> armagetronad: Added a new flag that allows users to specify whether they want their identity to be hidden.
15:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Maybe the serverside handling of it can be improved a bit by allowing users (like administrators) to only hide their access level without hiding their ID.
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15:59 <flex> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1800887
15:59 <flex> lol
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16:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7820 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ (Armagetron.workspace ZThread.cbp): Added ZThrad code::blocks build project.
16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7821 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/winlibs/ZThread/ (191 files in 18 dirs): Added ZThread 2.3.2 with GCC 4 fixes.
16:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7822 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ (Dedicated.cbp Master.cbp): Adapted to be able to use ZThread.
16:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7823 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/win32_ded/config.h: Experimental: activating ZThread usage and Armathentication on Windows dedicated server build.
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16:21 <wrtlprnft> flex: o_O
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16:35 <MrBougo> ??
16:36 <K-Yo> ??
16:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7824 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/ (IncludesMakefile2 scripts/copysrc): Adapted to picky versions of bash and test.
16:38 <flex> wrtlprnft, Man Vs Wild?
16:38 <flex> parody of it basically
16:39 <flex> he does stupid stuff like eat bugs and drink from elephant shit
16:40 <flex> Man vs Girls gone Wild, get it? :p
16:40 <flex> I'll get my coat.
16:45 <wrtlprnft> flex: i did get it
16:45 <flex> great lol
16:45 <flex> you should check out Man V Wild, a very entertaining survival show
16:46 <flex> Man vs Wild*
16:47 <MrBougo> "he does stupid stuff like eat bugs and drink from elephant shit"
16:48 <MrBougo> oh nice, i love watching that kind of stuff, that makes me horny
16:48 <MrBougo> typical reactin i guess
16:48 <MrBougo> reaction*
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17:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7825 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/package/ (Makefile default.apspec): Enabling armathentication on autopackage builds.
17:17 <wrtlprnft> :-)
17:18 <epsy> you know what's harly missing from admin abilities?
17:18 <epsy> poll issue control
17:19 <wrtlprnft> MAX_VOTES 0
17:19 <wrtlprnft> although an ABORT_POLL might be nice
17:19 <epsy> yes
17:21 <z-man> While an admin is online, polls should be disabled anyway :)
17:21 <z-man> Does anyone know how one can get the SVN username?
17:22 <epsy> well, when i'm logged in in café and there's a non-grinder, i prefer polling than admin-kick
17:23 <wrtlprnft> z-man: ?
17:24 <z-man> Forget it, the svn username is not what I need anyway :)
17:24 <z-man> I'd need the username on the aabeta server to issue the right ssh command.
17:24  * z-man is cleaning up the build stuff
17:25 <z-man> well, cleaning up is probably the wrong word.
17:25 <wrtlprnft> commit a whoami script?
17:25 <wrtlprnft> or ask the guy who hosts it but is sleeping now
17:25 <MrBougo> :p
17:26 <z-man> It's not important, the user just has to edit a config file if it's not me :)
17:26 <wrtlprnft> z-man: sec, i can login to the host
17:26 <z-man> It's no use!
17:26  * wrtlprnft is confused now
17:26 <z-man> If I can log in, I already know my username :)
17:27 <wrtlprnft> the htdocs stuff is owned by armagetronad
17:27  * wrtlprnft thinks he didn't quite understand what you want
17:28 <z-man> I've got this aabeta script that handles uploading and filling in the sleeping person's retarded array stuff with things parsed from the filename.
17:28 <z-man> And that needs to know the aabeta username.
17:28 <wrtlprnft> oh
17:28 <z-man> Previously, when the scripts were on CVS, I could read the CVS info to determine the username.
17:29 <z-man> But now, the submitter has to edit a config file. No big deal, I'm the only one using the script anyway.
17:29 <wrtlprnft> heh
17:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7826 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_dedicated.cfg: Commented out ALLOW_TEAM_SHUFFLEUP, it triggered errors with authentication.
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17:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7827 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/ (configure package/Makefile): Disabling the hacky text-mode-only autopackage installation. Perhaps the new autopackage version I'm using doesn't crash any more.
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17:47 <wrtlprnft> z-man: what about making the client create user.cfg with og-r permissions on linux/macos because it could contain passwords?
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17:55 <z-man> Good idea, do you know how? :)
17:55 <wrtlprnft> well, it shouldn't be too hard to find out for linux
17:56 <wrtlprnft> and that'll probably work for macos as well
17:58 <pippijn> hi
17:58 <wrtlprnft> just call umask(0771); before creating it
17:59 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: or pass 0600 as mode :-)
17:59 <wrtlprnft> now we just need to find out how to modify it if it already exists
17:59 <pippijn> and that's what chmod is for
17:59 <wrtlprnft> err, i meant umask(0177). ouch
17:59 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: you're right
17:59 <wrtlprnft> fchmod is what we need
18:00 <pippijn> umask is less efficient
18:00 <pippijn> open is better
18:00 <pippijn>        int open(const char *pathname, int flags, mode_t mode);
18:01 <wrtlprnft> note that we only write once on exit :P
18:01 <pippijn> you can do whatever you want.
18:01  * pippijn goes eat pizza
18:01 <z-man> Yeah, whatever is easier to write and comment out on win32 gets my vote.
18:02 <wrtlprnft> hmm, we're using iostreams
18:02  * wrtlprnft wonders if you can get the actual file descriptor out of an ofstream
18:09 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: does windows have file descriptors?
18:12 <wrtlprnft> err
18:12 <wrtlprnft> the basic stdio.h stuff works in windows, right?
18:12 <pippijn> yes
18:12 <pippijn> everything that is in C89 works in windows
18:13 <pippijn> basically, you should assume that C++98 works in windows
18:14 <wrtlprnft>     f.open( fullname, mode );
18:14 <wrtlprnft>     chmod( &fullname(0), 0600 );
18:14 <wrtlprnft> that should be fine
18:14 <wrtlprnft> there's a race condition if you try to read the file after it's been created but before its mode is changed
18:14 <wrtlprnft> but the file is empty at that point
18:14 <pippijn> what makes you think chmod works on windows?
18:15 <wrtlprnft> nothing
18:15 <pippijn> the windows filesystems have no modes
18:15 <wrtlprnft> the #ifndef is still missinf
18:15 <wrtlprnft> *missing
18:15 <pippijn> oh, okay
18:15 <wrtlprnft> i just want to know if this is a security problem on linux
18:16 <pippijn> uhm.. is this supposed to happen in a threaded environment?
18:16 <wrtlprnft> what happens if a program has a handle on a file and then the file permissions get changed so it can't access it anymore?
18:16 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: no
18:16 <pippijn> ah like that
18:16 <pippijn> then chmod will fail
18:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:17 <wrtlprnft> scratch that, then
18:17 <pippijn> file permissions won't change and chmod will set errno to EBUSY
18:17 <pippijn> I'm not 100% sure, though
18:18 <wrtlprnft> the man page says nothing about EBUSY
18:18 <wrtlprnft> maybe i should just try it
18:18 <wrtlprnft> later, supper
18:22 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it will work
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18:23 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: the EBUSY doesn't apply to linux
18:23 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it does apply to linux, but not under these conditions
18:23 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: when you have a filedescriptor to the file and its modes change, nothing happens. the modes change and you can continue working with that file handle
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18:40 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: then that's still not what we need :(
18:40  * wrtlprnft thinks he's gonna go with uname()
18:40 <wrtlprnft> err, umask
19:00 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7828 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs): protect user.cfg from read access by other users on linux and (hopefully) mac OS
19:00 <wrtlprnft> That OS X Guy, z-man: can one of you see if it compiles on mac os?
19:01 <z-man> [dlh]: he means you :)
19:02 <z-man> But I'm on it, of course. Checking, that's what I can do.
19:02 <[dlh]> compiling also... maybe I'll beat z-man :)
19:03 <z-man> You will, I haven't even booted yet.
19:06 <[dlh]> wrtlprnft: it works
19:07 <wrtlprnft> :-)
19:07 <wrtlprnft> it's probably somewhat redundant
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19:35 <z-man> Autopackage seems to have improved, it doesn't crash anymore in graphics mode, and it doesn't install a wrong libsdl-image.
19:35  * z-man is starting the alpha build process now
19:35 <pippijn> alpha?
19:35 <pippijn> for what?
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19:36 <z-man> 0.2.8
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19:36 <z-man> Just a snapshot build.
19:37 <pippijn> ah, okay
19:38 <z-man> Hmm, I wonder whether I should do libstdc++-6 builds.
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19:39 <z-man> I probably should.
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19:44 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if it would be better to just have the cycle blink instead of the cycle, the lagometer, the chat indicator, the name above the cycle and the per-cycle cockpit (in the trunk)…
19:45 <z-man> :0
19:45 <z-man> blink?
19:45 <wrtlprnft> after respawn
19:45 <z-man> when you're invulnerable?
19:45 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:45 <z-man> Does it work properly on 0.2.8?
19:45 <wrtlprnft> well, everything blinks
19:46 <z-man> hmm
19:46 <wrtlprnft> it's a conditional return at the beginning of gCycle::Render
19:46 <z-man> Oh yeah.
19:47 <z-man> Let me fix that on 0.2.8, I'll only toggle the cylce and shadow.
19:47 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
19:47 <wrtlprnft> we have a cycle shadow?
19:49 <z-man> Yeah, a fake one.
19:49 <wrtlprnft> err
19:50 <wrtlprnft> where did my console go?
19:51 <epsy> jeezeus, how can i turn off sandbox so i don't get access violation errors?
19:51 <wrtlprnft> console_rows doesn't do anything, but it shows up when connecting to the master servers
19:51 <wrtlprnft> FEATURES=-sandbox
19:51 <epsy> didn't work :S
19:51 <epsy> yes
19:51 <epsy> ops
19:52 <wrtlprnft> i have no idea what suddenly changed so that my console is gone
19:52  * wrtlprnft is talking about the armagetronad client console
19:54 <z-man> Perhaps some renegade code part is keeping it small?
19:54 <z-man> Active menus do that, for example.
19:54 <wrtlprnft> weird
19:55 <wrtlprnft> if i connect to a server it's there
19:55 <wrtlprnft> on local or hosted games it's not
19:56 <wrtlprnft> must be something about my user_3_0.cfg
19:58 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7829 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Invulnerability blinking now only affects the cycle.
19:58 <z-man> TEXT_OUT?
19:58 <z-man> There was some setting that is intended to hide all text output in local games.
19:59 <wrtlprnft>                     TEXT_OUT 0
19:59 <wrtlprnft> indeed
19:59 <wrtlprnft> now how did that get set to 0?
20:00 <wrtlprnft> i'm 100.00001% positive that i never touched it
20:03 <wrtlprnft> also, there's a config item TEAM_MENU_COLOR_TEAM_OK that's set to 0xffffff by default… wouldn't 0xRESETT be better? and why is it a tConfItem?
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20:04 <z-man> don't ask me, joda did all that team crap :)
20:05 <wrtlprnft> just noticed it while browsing through my user_0_3.cfg
20:05 <wrtlprnft> infact 0xRESETT is probably the least used color code out there :D
20:05  * epsy puts it in his nick mwuahahaha
20:06 <wrtlprnft> a couple of server names would look better if they used 0xRESETT instead of 0xffffff
20:06 <wrtlprnft> bbl
20:07 <epsy> brb
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20:07 <libervisco> MaZuffeR, hey
20:08 <MaZuffeR> yes?
20:08 <libervisco> MaZuffeR, we have a map
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20:12 <MaZuffeR> #lastseen Lacka
20:12 <armabot> MaZuffeR: Lackadaisical has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 day 2 hours 21 minutes ago.
20:13 <pippijn> torres: << __FILE__
20:13 <torres> t.cpp
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7830 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Argh, push/pop matrix chaos. Better blinking now.
20:16 <MrBougo> #lastseen concept
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
20:17 <MrBougo> :p
20:17 <MrBougo> #lastseen gss
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: gss has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 18 hours 47 minutes ago.
20:17 <MrBougo> wow he's still playing?
20:17 <MrBougo> #lastseen anumeric
20:17 <MrBougo> #lastseen hi
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: Anumeric has last been seen on Swampland II 16 hours 59 minutes ago.
20:17 <armabot> MrBougo: philipe has last been seen on ¦×¦.Sumo.Server 2 minutes ago.
20:17 <MrBougo> :/
20:17 <MrBougo> whats the argument for fullnick?
20:18 <MrBougo> #lastseen
20:18 <armabot> MrBougo: *THE{LOSER}* has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 minute ago.
20:18 <MrBougo> nice
20:18 <MrBougo> #lastseen
20:18 <armabot> MrBougo: *THE{LOSER}* has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 minute ago.
20:18 <MrBougo> #lastseen spinace
20:18 <[dlh]> #help lastseen
20:18 <armabot> [dlh]: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:18 <armabot> MrBougo: SpinAce has last been seen on ¦×¦.Sumo.Server 21 hours 21 minutes ago.
20:18 <MrBougo> wow spin still plays too :o
20:18 <MrBougo> i should definitely come on a server and say hellp
20:18 <MrBougo> hello*
20:20 <[dlh]> #fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=free%20kill
20:20 <armabot> [dlh]: free kill has last been seen on Tag Test 2 days 23 hours 25 minutes ago.
20:22 <flex> #rating |x|_flex
20:23 <armabot> flex: |x|_flex is 134th with a rating of 1582-1615 (from 1557-1597)
20:25 <kidanger> z-man: Can you include a search fonction in the Server Browser ?
20:26 <z-man> We have a friends list now.
20:26 <kidanger> ah ? What version ?
20:26 <z-man> current SVN.
20:27 <kidanger> oh, and how I can get it ? (what url ?)
20:27 <kidanger> ^^
20:28 <[dlh]> http://beta.armagetronad.net
20:28 <z-man> no, not in any of those
20:28 <z-man> "bzr lp:armagetronad/0.2.8"
20:28 <[dlh]> oops
20:28  * z-man loves the launchpad shortcuts.
20:30 <z-man> guru3: I think I know why you see strange explosions. Your one tagged smart pointer is keeping one cycle alive over to the next round.
20:30 <z-man> you'll need to clear the pointer on round end.
20:30 <z-man> And I'll need to fix the problem on the client. Can't have delayed messages from the server cause havoc.
20:31 <kidanger> z-man: bzr: ERROR: unknown command "lp:armagetronad/0.2.8" :S
20:31 <z-man> "bzr branch lp:armagetronad/0.2.8"
20:31 <z-man> sorry :)
20:31 <kidanger> thx z-man :)
20:32 <z-man> Well, wait with that until you have a working version.
20:42 <epsy> is there any doc on how does arma handle lag?
20:43 <flex> yeah, summery is: it just happens
20:43 <epsy> ...on countermeasures arma uses...
20:43 <flex> ary
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20:45  * epsy noticed how z-man sightly disappeared :S
20:47 <z-man> darn.
20:47  * epsy guesses that means there's none
20:47 <z-man> Not really
20:47 <z-man> there is some included in the autogenerated html documentation
20:48 <z-man> but it's a bit out of date.
20:48 <z-man> and flex's summary is of course correct.
20:48 <flex> what about speedhacks?
20:48 <flex> how does arma deal with speed altering and such..
20:49 <z-man> The server is in full control of the gameplay, any hax must exploit special bugs.
20:49 <flex> i see
20:49 <z-man> WHERE DID MY DESKTOP ICONS ALL GO TO?????
20:49 <epsy> you're in a dream z-man
20:50 <flex> that must suck, epsy in your dream..
20:50 <flex> what sad dream it must be :p
20:58 <z-man> Well, on the plus side, I was using the desktop as a kind of junkyard anyway.
21:00 <epsy> z-man, enjoy your (desktop) wallpaper
21:00 <z-man> It's the default osx one
21:00 <epsy> you can still enjoy it :P
21:01 <z-man> never bothered to change it because I knew I'd never see it :)
21:02 <epsy> jeez...my mixer is fucked up
21:08 <[dlh]> so zthread must be compiled with -fpermissive?
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21:37 <z-man> [dlh]: yes, or patched.
21:37 <z-man> The version in winlibs is patched already.
21:38 <z-man> There is a patch floating around on the net, and I've made my own. If you want that, I can put it up somewhere.
21:38 <[dlh]> Could you send me your patch?
21:39 <z-man> I'll attach it somewhere, mom
21:40 <[dlh]> :)
21:42 <pippijn> z-man: construct () now supports arguments and derived->base
21:43 <pippijn> z-man: http://pip.one09.net/files/txt/cd9b0a7880311fc6162abf86e850c9b5.txt
21:43 <pippijn> z-man: the output from that is http://pip.one09.net/files/txt/b870e1730742885d60c16ff37c0d6cff.txt
21:44 <pippijn> z-man: (ignore the callback stuff)
21:46 <z-man> [dlh]: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=194849
21:46 <z-man> sorry, it took a while to figure out I can't attach it on the wiki directly, where I'd like to have it.
21:48 <pippijn> I could rename construct to New
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21:50 <pippijn> I wish there were something like type_switch (ob) { case std::string: break; case std::wstring: break; ..... }
21:54 <z-man> dynamic or static type?
21:57 <wrtlprnft> pippijn: i understand the point of someType *t = construct(someArgs)
21:57 <pippijn> z-man: dynamic
21:58 <wrtlprnft> but Base *b = (Derived *) construct(someArgs); vs. Base *b = new Derived(someArgs);…
21:58 <pippijn> wrtlprnft: it's not a choice of mine to allow that..
21:58 <pippijn> *shrug*
21:58 <pippijn> it's automatically there
21:58 <wrtlprnft> i know
21:58 <pippijn> I didn't do anything extra for that
21:58 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7831 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ZThread.cbp: Absolute -> relative path.
21:58 <wrtlprnft> then how can you say you specifically support it?
21:59 <pippijn> z-man said that derived->base didn't work, so I explicitly stated it as supported
22:00 <wrtlprnft> ah
22:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7832 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8_alpha20080209.
22:11 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
22:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7833 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: OS->GNU/Linux
22:24 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
22:27 <wrtlprnft> STUPID FREAKING KEYBOARD
22:28 <wrtlprnft> or keyboard driver
22:28 <wrtlprnft> or X11
22:28 <wrtlprnft> or something.
22:28 <wrtlprnft> got me kicked from an arma server again
22:29 <wrtlprnft> and i don't even have the slighted clue what could be the cause of my problems
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22:49 <pippijn> torres: { uint32_t s = *reinterpret_cast<uint32_t const *> ("kirk"); uint32_t bs = htonl (s); char const *c = reinterpret_cast<char const *> (&bs); cout << c; } // go, byteswapping :-)
22:49 <torres> krik
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23:10 <flex> wrtlprnft, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_Death
23:12 <flex> Lol
23:12 <flex> wrong link
23:12 <flex> http://unitedadmins.com/index.php?p=content&content=about
23:12 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7834 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/tron/gCycle.cpp: Write a SACRIFICE message into ladderlog containing the player who used the hole, the player who went through it and the player who got holed, in that order.
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i think that's for “bigger” games
23:13 <flex> yeah well, exactly what it says on the tin
23:14 <flex> even if such a thing was created, (and for the love of arma it shouldn't :p) it's quite possible to solve such issues
23:14 <epsy> « the player who used the hole, the player who went through it and the player who got holed, in that order »
23:14 <epsy> wtf?
23:14 <flex> using the hole and going through it is the same thing aye?
23:15 <wrtlprnft> argh, damnit
23:15 <wrtlprnft> the guy who created it, the guy who used it and the guy who was holed
23:15 <wrtlprnft> that's what's in it
23:15 <flex> aye
23:15  * wrtlprnft wonders where to document that
23:16 <wrtlprnft> must be fun to figure that out on yourself just from looking at ladderlog
23:16 <flex> player who created the whole(that is dead) player(s) who used the hole and player who got holed
23:16 <epsy> then we'ill have stats about who gets the most holed :o)
23:16 <wrtlprnft> and who uses the most holes
23:17 <flex> nice
23:17 <wrtlprnft> maybe get a little price for the biggest holer of all :-D
23:17 <flex> holer as in using holes or creating them
23:18 <wrtlprnft> using them
23:18 <wrtlprnft> it's not your fault if someone uses your hole
23:18 <wrtlprnft> no
23:18 <epsy> well, you died
23:18 <wrtlprnft> it's not your accomplishment i should say
23:19 <flex> well you might of purposely holed that wall..
23:19 <wrtlprnft> that's rarely the case
23:23 <flex> wrtlprnft come nexus9 :p
23:23 <luke-jr> …
23:23 <flex> luke-jr, come nexus9
23:24 <luke-jr> NO
23:24 <epsy> haha
23:24 <flex> luke-jr, fu
23:24 <luke-jr> flex: fu
23:24 <flex> luke-jr, fu
23:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7835 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Switched latest alpha to SF.
23:24 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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23:44 <K-Yo> i szman here?
23:44 <K-Yo> whoa
23:44 <K-Yo> z-man, are you here?
23:44 <K-Yo> :(
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