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Log from 2007-11-17:
--- Day changed Sat Nov 17 2007
00:03 <cusco> ok
00:03 <cusco> I dunno what zonesv2 are
00:04 <cusco> but I maine some new fancy zones
00:13 <cusco> imagine
00:19 <madmax> there's some threads about it on the forums
00:54 <luke-jr> heh
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01:01 <Lucifer> we need a logo
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02:32 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: we need to obtain some liquid N for testing to make sure everything can survive the cold
02:33 <luke-jr> …
02:33 <Lucifer> today?
02:33 <ct|kyle> no
02:33 <ct|kyle> later on
02:33 <ct|kyle> when we have stuff built
02:33 <Lucifer> :)
02:34 <Lucifer> I was thinking of taking a trip to antarctica...
02:34 <ct|kyle> not near cold enough
02:34 <Lucifer> that's actually pretty close to lunar conditions, iirc.  No magnetic field to protect it
02:34 <Lucifer> what we need to test with is going to primarily depend on how much money we have :/
02:35 <Lucifer> I'm working on the MCP right now
02:35 <Lucifer> needs pyqt4 and pyqwt5
02:35 <ct|kyle> ah
02:37 <ct|kyle> since when did they start playing Christmas music on the radio starting this early in the year?
02:37 <GodTodd> since the inception of Hallothanksmas
02:38 <ct|kyle> oh
02:38 <ct|kyle> it started about 3PM today i was sick on it by 3:05PM
02:39 <GodTodd> i've got good xmas music that i play (closer to the season)
02:39 <GodTodd> :)
02:39 <ct|kyle> what starting the 24th
02:39 <ct|kyle> of december
02:40 <GodTodd> well...at least after fall semester
02:40 <ct|kyle> i get sick of it really quick
02:40 <Lucifer> awww, come on
02:41 <Lucifer> There's no presents, not this christmas, there's no presents!
02:41 <Lucifer> Stop the sharing!  Oh the sharing!
02:41  * Lucifer loves Christmas, really
02:41 <ct|kyle> i'm fine with a few days of it, but not this soon
02:41  * GodTodd prefers Modranecht and Yule ;)
02:41 <Lucifer> I refuse to do anything christmaslike until after thanksgiving
02:41 <ct|kyle> they play so much crappy music too
02:42 <Lucifer> and since I don't listen to the radio nor dumb my mind with tv, no problems
02:42  * GodTodd notes not all tv is dumb.
02:43 <GodTodd> just most of it
02:43 <GodTodd> heh
02:43 <ct|kyle> i listen to radio in car, that is it, well i was today since i have not gotten sound on computer yet
02:43 <ct|kyle> yes NASA TV is awesome
02:44 <GodTodd> i like discovery, history, nasa....lots of the educational/informational channels
02:44 <GodTodd> and pbs for Red Dwarf and Young Ones
02:44 <GodTodd> gotta have those
02:45 <ct|kyle> i'll watch maybe 1 regular series a year just to see how dumb Americans are
02:45 <ct|kyle> i got 4 PBS channels
02:47 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: do you let your kids watch those stupid kid shows?
02:47  * luke-jr doesn't let his kids watch TV
02:48 <ct|kyle> If i had kids i would limit them and restrict the idiot shows(99%) of them
02:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer: /j #jesus ☺
02:50 <ct|kyle> who the hell believes in that shit
02:51 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: we've never had TV
02:51 <luke-jr> not worth a penny
02:51 <ct|kyle> nice
02:56 <ct|kyle> dam i missed the space walk today
02:59 <GodTodd> no...luke just watches tv shows without the tv
02:59 <GodTodd> heh
03:00 <ct|kyle> i figured
03:00 <ct|kyle> i'll watch an old tech TV show through torrentcast
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03:01 <GodTodd> it's like anything else...as long as you practice smart viewing and moderation tv isn't all bad
03:01 <ct|kyle> ya
03:02 <ct|kyle> when they have tron's sequel on it i'll have to watch it again(assuming i goto theaters)
03:06 <ct|kyle> who can even watch cinematech it is like anime but worse
03:06 <GodTodd> heh... luke-jr must think he's making good points that show he's right and the #jesus people are wrong
03:11 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I try to keep my kids' tv time down as much as possible
03:11 <ct|kyle> some of those shows are so stupid
03:11 <Lucifer> GodTodd: the thing is, if you practice smart viewing, there's nothing to watch :)
03:12 <ct|kyle> NASA TV
03:12 <ct|kyle> anyone can watch a space walk
03:13 <GodTodd> Lucifer: with all due respect:  bull :)
03:14 <Lucifer> GodTodd: sure you practice smart viewing?
03:14 <Lucifer> ;)
03:14 <GodTodd> i learn things
03:14 <GodTodd> and brit coms rule
03:14 <GodTodd> so, yeah :)
03:14 <Lucifer> hmmm, last time we got the beeb, it was the suckbeeb
03:14 <Lucifer> it was BBsuCk
03:15 <ct|kyle> heh
03:15 <Lucifer> and we get PBS with an antenna, so we can watch whatever they show there
03:15 <GodTodd> bah....pbs is the only place for the good brit coms
03:15 <GodTodd> psst: antenna is still tv
03:15 <Lucifer> nasa tv is pretty tempting, though, in case I ever want to learn what *not* to do
03:16 <Lucifer> antenna is like all the really bad tv, but without the really terrible tv
03:16 <Lucifer> not that I care, we only have an antenna because my wife plugs it in
03:16 <GodTodd> discovery is cool, if nothing else to come up with topics to piss off luke-jr :)
03:17 <Lucifer> every couple of months when I think everyone's been watching too much tv, I find some excuse to rearrange the electronics in the living room and unplug the antenna
03:17 <Lucifer> then forget to plug it back in
03:17 <ct|kyle> heh
03:17 <GodTodd> you know...exhumation of mummies that lived 3 years ago, king tut and all
03:17 <Lucifer> 3 years ago?
03:17 <Lucifer> you learn a lot, really
03:17 <GodTodd> to fit in his time frame it'd have to be
03:18 <GodTodd> scrunching it into luke-jr/tradcath time
03:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: years are you talking
03:18 <GodTodd> yep
03:19 <Lucifer> is luke-jr talking right now?
03:19 <ct|kyle> he must relly be trying to prove them smart people wrong. Hopefully not all dome people are there
03:19 <Lucifer> heh
03:19 <ct|kyle> err dumb*
03:19 <GodTodd> heh
03:20 <Lucifer> kyle, if you want to talk about "dome" people, you either need to read national geographic or make sure your spelling is right
03:20 <GodTodd> he spelled dome right ;)
03:20  * ct|kyle has terrible spelling 
03:21 <ct|kyle> heh
03:22 <ct|kyle> nothing is happening on #jesus so i said "All who disagree with luke-jr say I"
03:22 <GodTodd> should be "aye"
03:22 <GodTodd> :P
03:22 <ct|kyle> really i should say all who agree
03:23 <GodTodd> that would make it even quieter
03:23 <GodTodd> they like him a tad more than we do...but not much ;)
03:23 <ct|kyle> noone has said a word
03:23 <ct|kyle> heh
03:24 <Lucifer> heh
03:24 <Lucifer> I got in trouble in #qt for not warning them about luke-jr when he opened his mouth
03:24 <GodTodd> haha
03:25 <DrJoeTron> :I
03:25 <Lucifer> I don't want to write a B paper
03:25 <ct|kyle> everyone silent with that last remark
03:25 <Lucifer> but I don't want to quit this class with a C
03:26 <ct|kyle> well write a C paper
03:26 <DrJoeTron> cause luke-jr is a badmin
03:26 <ct|kyle> oh then a D
03:26 <Lucifer> you get a C when you take the C paper test, which is a paper that you write on a timer in the testing center
03:26 <DrJoeTron> C's get Degrees
03:26 <Lucifer> then you can write a B paper and get a B, and an A paper and get an A
03:27 <Lucifer> I don't want a medioCre
03:27 <Lucifer> I'd rather have an A for Apple Jacks
03:27 <ct|kyle> what do you have to write about?
03:27 <Lucifer> taking a B is settling, but I really don't want to write this paper
03:28 <Lucifer> I'm supposed to find an interpretive problem in one of the stories we read and write about it, propose solutions, support my solutions with research, etc.
03:28 <Lucifer> library-based research.  My comp 2 teacher hates the internet
03:28 <Lucifer> she says she doesn't, but I swear if I get one more "Wikipedia is bad, Microsoft is good" lecture I'm going to go all nutso on them
03:29 <GodTodd> wikipedia is bad
03:29 <GodTodd> microsoft is good
03:29 <Lucifer> it's very simple.  Encyclopedias are supposed to be no good for academic work.  That's all you need to say no to wikipedia.  But noooo, MS Encarta is fine because we all know Microsoft never lies
03:29 <GodTodd> wikipedia is bad
03:29 <GodTodd> microsoft is good
03:29 <GodTodd> wikipedia is bad
03:29 <GodTodd> microsoft is good
03:29 <ct|kyle> heh my High school blocked wikipedia and then all the English teachers claimed that we could not use that as a source
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03:30 <ct|kyle> so Answers.com works it uses wikipedia
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03:31 <@GodTodd> haha kyle trying to start holy shit
03:31 <@GodTodd> :)
03:31 <@GodTodd> [20:30] <ct|kyle> "Our purpose: to get us all closer to Jesus"  i thought this room was to distance us from a made up person?
03:31 <ct|kyle> :D
03:31 <@GodTodd> troll!
03:31 <Lucifer> I asked them to /msg me when the rapture comes
03:32 <Lucifer> they're probably still trying to figure out if I was trolling
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03:34 <Lucifer> spidey: sucks
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03:35 <ct|kyle> now is the fun
03:37  * ct|kyle got one talking
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03:38 <@Lucidiot> thx for the @
03:40  * Lucifer quietly points at the "idiot" in your name
03:40 <@Lucidiot> :)
03:40 <Lucifer> not very smart to go around telling everyone you're an idiot
03:40 <Lucifer> but that's your business :)
03:40 <@Lucidiot> good to know
03:41 <ct|kyle> hey thats that idiot from #jesus
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03:42 <@Lucifer> weeee
03:42 <Lucidiot> yep yep
03:42 <Lucidiot> weeeeee
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03:43 <@GodTodd> wow...did we build a church in here or what?
03:43 <@Lucifer> it's the Church of Suicidal
03:43 <@Lucifer> we'll have a sermon and a wonderful recital
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03:44 <@GodTodd> i wonder if i have any ST on my player...
03:44 <@GodTodd> i should...
03:44 <@GodTodd> heh
03:44 <@Lucifer> at least that song, heh :)
03:44  * Lucifer bbiab, have to take a luke-jr
03:44 <@GodTodd> i like Lovely too
03:45 <@ct|kyle> it is nice how in #jesus they are not accepting of all. like their religion says they should be
03:45 <luke-jr> WRONG
03:46 <luke-jr> we are to admonish the sinner and reject sin
03:47 <@ct|kyle> we are to pwn luke-jr and take over the world
03:47 <@GodTodd> isn't it jesus' job to judge what is sin?
03:47 <luke-jr> so?
03:47 <luke-jr> He has judged
03:48 <@GodTodd> so, there is no judgement where he makes sure who has accepted him into their heart?
03:48 <@GodTodd> judgement day*
03:48 <@ct|kyle> so it is a sin to state your own logical opinions?
03:48 <luke-jr> it is sin to oppose God
03:48 <@GodTodd> i don't oppose him at all, i think xtians have just misinterpreted and bastardized his concept
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03:49 <@ct|kyle> yes i only opposed jesus not god
03:49 <@GodTodd> hell, i don't oppose jesus either
03:49 <@GodTodd> he was one hell of a magician
03:49 <@ct|kyle> died last year right?
03:49 <@GodTodd> only in luke-jr time
03:49 <@ct|kyle> ya
03:53 <@ct|kyle> GodTodd: -->
03:55 <@GodTodd> ?
03:57 <cusco> lol
03:57 <cusco> religion is nothing but a reason for war
03:57 <cusco> history has proven that
03:57 <cusco> it is a fact that nobody can prove wrong
03:58 <cusco> nobody can change the past history course no money no power can change that fact
03:58 <cusco> its not that microsoft can buy off the oposition, its just not changeble
03:59 <cusco> and that is why I believe in: NO RELIGION
03:59 <cusco> no religion, no god, see to believe like s. tome
03:59 <luke-jr> cusco: religion is fact
04:00 <cusco> yes
04:00 <cusco> so its reason
04:00 <cusco> war
04:00 <luke-jr> no
04:00 <cusco> yes
04:00 <luke-jr> its reason is peace
04:00 <cusco> HA!
04:00 <luke-jr> and truth
04:00 <@ct|kyle> lets just say next time i go into that room i'm going to have a lot of fun
04:00 <cusco> HAAAA!
04:00 <cusco> go die
04:00 <luke-jr> …
04:01 <cusco> how about the millions of crusades
04:01 <luke-jr> how about them?
04:01 <cusco> that killed all those who not opposed their religion but oposed giving in money to the curch?
04:01 <luke-jr> lies
04:01 <cusco> oh yes ofcourse
04:02 <cusco> I mean... its a lie that church wants money, but its no lie that god exists
04:02 <cusco> I only never have seen him
04:02 <@GodTodd> more proof darwin was right --> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/internet_suicide
04:02 <@ct|kyle>  /join #luke-jrisanasshat
04:02 <cusco> and found cristian people asking me money everyday
04:02 <cusco> but what does that mean
04:03 <luke-jr> cusco: there's a lot of frauds abusing the name Christian
04:03 <cusco> sarcasm aside......
04:03 <@GodTodd> and they use the name tradcath
04:03 <@GodTodd> :)
04:03 <cusco> I believe in no god
04:03 <luke-jr> your loss
04:03 <luke-jr> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm
04:04 <cusco> but I carry a medal of "mother of jesus" (nossa senhora) because i respect my grandm other wishes
04:04  * GodTodd never clicks on a luke-jr link...never are any good
04:04 <cusco> I have an open mind I can understand anything
04:04 <cusco> but I believe what I want and nobody is going to tell me otherwise
04:04 <luke-jr> cusco: you mean the Miraculous Medal?
04:04 <cusco> (I'm stubborn by the way)
04:04 <cusco> luke-jr: dunno whats its name
04:05 <cusco> its a piece of paper with a bit of a pray and a metal in it
04:05 <luke-jr> http://images.google.com/images?q=miraculous+medal
04:05 <cusco> my grandmother is this woman who has a course to go and give those pieces of raw bread to sick people's homes and all... she takes part in manny catholic events and so on and so fotrh
04:05 <cusco> because I like her a lot I respect her
04:05 <cusco> let me check
04:06 <cusco> yes
04:06 <cusco> thats the one
04:06 <cusco> does that has any special meaning?
04:06 <luke-jr> get a chain for it, wear it (under clothing if you like), and say the prayer when you wake and before you sleep every day
04:06 <cusco> it says "italy"under the cross
04:06 <luke-jr> then you'll be all set
04:07 <cusco> set for what?
04:07 <@ct|kyle> set for turning into dirt
04:07 <luke-jr> Our Lady will guide you to the truth
04:07 <cusco> sure will
04:07 <cusco> I found the light
04:07 <luke-jr> cusco: if she doesn't really exist, it can't hurt to do it, can it?
04:08 <cusco> if you pay me £5 a day I will do it everyday! :P
04:08 <cusco> luke-jr: no it doesn't hurt
04:08 <cusco> at all
04:08 <luke-jr> I can't afford it
04:08 <cusco> thats why i carry it in my pocket
04:08 <cusco> or wallet
04:08 <cusco> but I never take it out never read the pray nor anything
04:08 <luke-jr> so say the prayer
04:09 <luke-jr> or would that hurt?
04:09 <cusco> I already did now... not that I care
04:09 <cusco> I just can't be bothered with it
04:09 <luke-jr> then maybe Mary won't be bothered with you
04:10 <cusco> anyway god is just a explanation man made up somewhere in time to explain stuff that they coudln't at the time
04:10 <luke-jr> nope
04:10 <cusco> so today we know that saint peter is not crying when it rains
04:10 <cusco> we know that there is condesation, precepitation etc
04:10 <DrJoeTron> you can't prove that
04:10 <@ct|kyle> the whole bible was made up just to control people
04:10 <cusco> nor can you prove that he exists
04:10 <cusco> so we are even
04:10 <cusco> if you can say he exists
04:10 <cusco> I can say he doesn't
04:10 <DrJoeTron> it was a joke.
04:10 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: the Bible wasn't made for people to read; how can it control them?
04:10  * cusco likes ==
04:10 <DrJoeTron> irc serious business
04:11 <luke-jr> cusco: God's existence has been proven plenty
04:11 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: it is controlling the way you look at life
04:11 <cusco> ct|kyle: no... the whole bible actually tells a nice story
04:11 <cusco> and many people in it where real
04:11 <DrJoeTron> why don't I have ops yet :I
04:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o DrJoeTron] by ChanServ
04:11 <@DrJoeTron> i want permanent ops :I
04:12 <cusco> but those people probably smoked too much crack and then say they saw weird monsters doing weird things
04:12  * luke-jr doesn't have that access level, nor think it'd be a good idea
04:12 <cusco> luke-jr: no it hasn't
04:12 <cusco> me may not know a lot bunch of stuff just as much as we don't know that god exists
04:12 <cusco> you just choose to believe that he does
04:12 <luke-jr> cusco: He does exist
04:12 <cusco> wich is diferrent from knowing that he does
04:12  * luke-jr knows He does
04:13 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: prove it
04:13 <cusco> ok why don't you bring him here for me too meet him
04:13 <cusco> perhaps I can shake his hand
04:13 <@DrJoeTron> jesus fucking christ
04:13 <@DrJoeTron> why are you guys bothering
04:13 <luke-jr> cusco: I can't be bothered to even bring myself to you to meet me
04:13 <luke-jr> :þ
04:13 <cusco> and invite him to get kicked on any server with no zones
04:13 <@DrJoeTron> stop bitching about god and bible shit and go fix armagetron
04:13 <cusco> (since tron from trunk can't play on those)
04:13 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: you fix arma
04:13 <@DrJoeTron> tia
04:13 <cusco> luke-jr: lol
04:13 <@DrJoeTron> im not a dev
04:14 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: so become one
04:14 <@DrJoeTron> no one wants me to be
04:14 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: prove his existence
04:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why should I?
04:14 <cusco> luke-jr: why should we believe?
04:14 <luke-jr> cusco: so you don't burn for eternity?
04:14 <cusco> prove is something you do when you want somebody to believe
04:15 <cusco> if you don't care to rpove, then don't care about our believes
04:15 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: because science explains his non existence
04:15 <luke-jr> I don't care to reinvent the wheel
04:15 <cusco> then don't reeivent a bike with no weels
04:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: nope
04:15 <cusco> leveing smoke instead of a glassy wall
04:15 <@DrJoeTron> give me a fucking hoveer bike
04:15 <cusco> yes thats iT!
04:15 <@DrJoeTron> i'll take that
04:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: science explains how human blood from the 8th century is still alive today?
04:16 <cusco> luke-jr: nobody called scienece in yet
04:16 <luke-jr> cusco: ct|kyle did
04:16 <cusco> but if you do that turns to our favor
04:16 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: well prove his existence, until proven otherwise he does not exist
04:16 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: go read a book
04:16 <cusco> science doesnt explain everything but what it does, it rpoves " god " wrong
04:17 <@DrJoeTron> the next person to keep this going gets kicked
04:17 <cusco> while god trys to explain just about EVERYTHING and all of that we have no prove to be right...
04:17 <@ct|kyle> books are words made up with bias
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04:17 <DrJoeTron> >:(
04:17 <@GodTodd> DrJoeTron: da badmin
04:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
04:18 <DrJoeTron> i wasn't kidding!
04:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by ChanServ
04:18 <luke-jr> wtf do you need to be op to /invite?
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04:19 <luke-jr> even Aristotle concluded there to be one God, and his society had no such foundations
04:19 <@GodTodd> to make you ask that question
04:19 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: where is your proof?
04:19 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: go read Aristotle, Aquinas, or some other great philosopher
04:19 <@GodTodd> definition of "great": agrees with luke-jr's views
04:19 <cusco> why take other peoples thoughts if I can think for myself?
04:19 <@ct|kyle> heh
04:19 <luke-jr> I'm not qualified to lay the foundations in that detail
04:20 <luke-jr> cusco: you're obviously not doing it very well
04:20 <@ct|kyle> # quote add GodTodd: definition of "great": agrees with luke-jr's views
04:20 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
04:20 <@ct|kyle> #quote add GodTodd: definition of "great": agrees with luke-jr's views
04:20 <armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
04:20 <@GodTodd> see...it's that condescending, little boy shit that makes me glad we have /ignore
04:20 <cusco> I obviously have never met god. And MOST OF YOU ALL only believe in him because the rest of the society does
04:21 <cusco> and back to basics
04:21 <@GodTodd> ct|kyle: that means you need to reg with armabot ;)
04:21 <cusco> religion has only brought bad wars over the years
04:21 <luke-jr> cusco: you never met George Washington either
04:21 <luke-jr> anti-religion causes wars
04:21 <cusco> I can google pictures of him
04:22 <luke-jr> drawn pictures
04:22 <cusco> well if a religion says all other religions are anti-ours...
04:22 <@ct|kyle> #whoami
04:22 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct|kyle
04:22 <cusco> its like propriatary software
04:22 <@ct|kyle> #quote add GodTodd: definition of "great": agrees with luke-jr's views
04:22 <armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.  Quote #63 added.
04:22 <DrJoeTron> george washington carver
04:22 <DrJoeTron> hell yeah
04:23 <@ct|kyle> GodTodd: fist time i had a " " i was not sure
04:23 <luke-jr> cusco: by definition there is only one true religion
04:23 <cusco> see? defenition of who
04:23 <cusco> lets not call it religion then... lets call it believes
04:23 <cusco> why cant I believe in something else?
04:23 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: there were several religions before Christianity and its base
04:23 <luke-jr> you can, but you'll suffer for it in the end if your beliefs deny reality
04:24 <cusco> LOL
04:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: there is no before its "Base"
04:24 <cusco> only reallity my beliefs deny, are that manny people believe in something nor real
04:24 <luke-jr> God is reality
04:25 <cusco> but thanks (hmm not god) I live in a place where people don't care about god... only celebrate christmas for tradition, p[arty and presents
04:25 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: i wont the proof for that statement
04:25 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I already told you were to get it
04:26 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: just bring him to me
04:26 <cusco> where as all the arab imigrants come and find weird that how can we not believe in god and celebrate christmas
04:26 <cusco> its because of all the narrow mindness arround religion I don't believe in it
04:26 <cusco> I like to be able to believe manny things or none
04:26 <cusco> and be able to see them all
04:26 <@ct|kyle> under god the world was flat
04:26 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: He won't go if you hate him
04:26 <@GodTodd> bah...xmas is a bastardized holiday anyway
04:27 <cusco> yes
04:27 <cusco> still... I like tradition but not religion
04:27 <cusco> I don't mind having the medal of miracle but I just have no faith
04:27 <@GodTodd> it became a xtian holiday for no other reason than to make xtianity more appealing to pagans
04:27 <cusco> until I can really meet god, I won't believe him
04:28 <@GodTodd> yes..that does help to validate beliefs
04:28 <luke-jr> cusco: to your own suffering
04:29 <cusco> I don't find that I suffer from it
04:29 <cusco> I would only if I was discriminated
04:29 <luke-jr> you will
04:29 <cusco> or something
04:29 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: what is your perception of gravity?
04:29 <cusco> but society treats me just the same
04:29 <cusco> so I just don't suffer
04:29 <cusco> I am FREE to believe what I want
04:29 <luke-jr> you've never met Richard Lawrence-- do you deny his existence as well?
04:30 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: that question makes no sense
04:30 <cusco> I already said I can google picturs of him up
04:30 <cusco> god's I cannot
04:30 <luke-jr> you can google up drawn pictures of God too
04:30 <cusco> furthermore even people who believes admits they never met him, but they still exsits
04:30 <cusco> so if nobody met hi... why believe him?
04:31 <cusco> what proffit do you get from it?
04:31 <luke-jr> plenty of people met Him
04:31 <@ct|kyle> like?
04:31 <cusco> sure crazy people
04:31 <luke-jr> St. Matthew?
04:31 <luke-jr> St. James?
04:31 <@ct|kyle> the schizophrenic
04:31 <luke-jr> nope
04:31 <luke-jr> the first Bishop of Jerusalem
04:31 <@ct|kyle> how do you know?
04:32 <cusco> lol
04:32 <cusco> oopsi daisys
04:32 <cusco> well now, before I get another censorship kick
04:32 <@ct|kyle> where you their to view them meeting him?
04:32 <cusco> Im off to bed
04:32 <luke-jr> maybe everyone who met Richard Lawrence was schizo too
04:32 <luke-jr> cusco: I deopped him
04:32 <@ct|kyle> that is why there are pictures
04:33 <luke-jr> cusco: don't go :þ
04:33 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: DRAWN pictures
04:33 <cusco> lol
04:33 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: cameras are relatively new
04:33 <luke-jr> and anyone can draw
04:33 <luke-jr> fact is, there is less proof that Richard Lawrence existed than there is of God's existence
04:34 <cusco> I can always set a timer that will repeat: god is a myth explaining the things human minds cannot explain - religion is just a reason for killing different people to get hold of their possessions
04:34 <@ct|kyle> prove it
04:34 <cusco> and go off to bet
04:34 <cusco> and let it roll
04:34 <cusco> :P
04:34 <luke-jr> cusco: wrong again
04:35 <cusco> me beeing wrong doesn't make you right
04:35 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: prove Richard Lawrence's existence
04:35 <@ct|kyle> i asked you frist
04:35 <luke-jr> cusco: I'm only right in so far as I believe the truth
04:35 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I told you where the answer is too
04:35 <cusco> once you cannot prove that it is true then you're alone in that statement
04:35 <@ct|kyle> i can't wait to become dirt when i die
04:36 <cusco> you and other thousands of bilions of crazy crack smoking people
04:36 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: i don't accept biased writings
04:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: so you don't accept any writings
04:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: read Aristotle
04:36 <luke-jr> he started out like the rest of his society-- a pagan
04:37 <luke-jr> and came to the conclusion of one God through pure philosophy
04:37 <luke-jr> and was killed for it, IIRC
04:37 <cusco> if we look out of the box this is just a thin inside society
04:37 <cusco> if all the humans vanished from earth was god still there?
04:37 <cusco> lol
04:37 <luke-jr> yes
04:38 <cusco> your only possible hafl-proof that god exists is all thoer people saying the same with no futile evidence
04:38 <cusco> lag
04:38 <cusco> ok now
04:38 <cusco> bybye
04:39 <luke-jr> cusco: say the prayer daily and you'll be safe
04:39 <@ct|kyle> yes i'm don listening to idiot luke-jr that can't make a decision on his own
04:39 <luke-jr> no, I can't decide reality
04:39 <luke-jr> if I tried, it wouldn't be reality
04:39 <luke-jr> it would be a fantasy
04:40 <@GodTodd> ct|kyle: finally?
04:40 <@GodTodd> ;)
04:40 <@ct|kyle> :D
04:43 <@ct|kyle> we just all hope that one day luke-jr will become smart enough to realize his mistake
04:43 <luke-jr> I hope you realize your mistake before you die
04:43 <luke-jr> at least my mistake has no possibility of eternal suffering
04:43 <luke-jr> "mistake"*
04:43 <@ct|kyle> my mistake?
04:44 <@ct|kyle> neither does mine
04:44 <luke-jr> yes it does
04:44 <@ct|kyle> prove it
04:44 <luke-jr> if you're wrong, you suffer for eternity
04:44 <luke-jr> if you're right, you get nothing out of life
04:44 <luke-jr> you just cease existing
04:45 <luke-jr> if I'm wrong, I just cease existing, getting nothing out of life, just like you
04:45 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: if you are wrong you have wasted your whole life
04:45 <luke-jr> if I'm right, I get eternal happiness
04:45 <luke-jr> if I don't exist, what do I care?
04:46 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: if I don't exist, what do I care that my life was wasted⁇
04:47 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: your life is wasted. start puting life to good use
04:47 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: if I don't exist, what do I care that my life was wasted⁇
04:47 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: because you could have been free while living
04:47 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: if I don't exist, what do I care that I could have been "free"?
04:49 <@ct|kyle> luke-jr: your too stupid to realize how you are living your life in hell, wasting you life away to BS
04:50 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: if that is true, WHY DO I CARE?
04:53 <cusco> why do we care?
04:53 <cusco> all of that you say goes both sides
04:53 <cusco> all
04:53 <cusco> (if you're willing to see it)
04:54 <luke-jr> nope
04:54 <luke-jr> because if you're wrong, you DO exist and BURN
04:55 <cusco> well what do I care
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by Lucifer
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by Lucifer
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o ct|kyle] by Lucifer
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o spidey_] by Lucifer
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer] by Lucifer
04:55 <@Lucifer> You know, I like to talk trash to luke-jr as much as the next guy
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
04:55 <@luke-jr> you don't care about burning?
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by luke-jr
04:55 <cusco> I do in this life
04:55 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by Lucifer
04:56 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by luke-jr
04:56 <cusco> I just don't know about if there is a next one for me to burn
04:56 <cusco> and because I don't see why there should be one...
04:56 <cusco> nope I don't care
04:56 <@luke-jr> my point is, I have nothing to lose if I do turn out to be wrong ;)
04:56 <@Lucifer> guru3: two choices.  I leave this channel and never return.  Luke-jr loses mod
04:57 <@Lucifer> guru3: I'm leaving now.
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04:57 <cusco> my point is i have "open-freedom" to do what I waht with my believes and nobody can take that freedom away from me
04:57  * luke-jr would like to know what justifys putting the channel on moderation
04:57 <@luke-jr> oh well, he's left to "never" return before
04:58 <@luke-jr> he'll be back
04:58 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
04:58 <cusco> maybe less trash on teh channel ... because its not really having an active conversation... hmm offtopic might get his client to read too much traffic and therefore lag?!?!?!?!
04:59 <cusco> and maybe hit his monthly traffic usage
04:59 <cusco> lol
04:59 <luke-jr> yeah, let's turn into one of those channels where nobody ever talks
04:59 <cusco> yes, and when you say "hello" somebody says why the hell you're saying hello? and all of they just fall on you because of nothing
05:00 <cusco> give you half a million reasons not to say hello
05:00 <cusco> lol
05:00 <ct|kyle> and then you say leave.  just like # jesus chat
05:00 <cusco> anybody here plays chess?
05:00 <cusco> lol
05:00 <luke-jr> sortof
05:00 <luke-jr> not regularly tho
05:01 <cusco> me neither but since I m awake until so late.. this used to be the times where I liked to play
05:01 <luke-jr> online?
05:01 <cusco> xboard -ics -icshost freechess.org
05:01  * luke-jr forgets what his client is
05:01 <cusco> not really online no
05:01 <cusco> but why not?
05:02 <luke-jr> …
05:02 <cusco> xboard?
05:02 <luke-jr> cusco: I'm on freechess
05:02 <cusco> what nickname?
05:03 <cusco> im there as cusco
05:03 <cusco> challenge cusco
05:03 <luke-jr> guest
05:03 <cusco> whats teh letters after guest?
05:03 <luke-jr> how?
05:03 <cusco> type challenge cusco
05:03 <luke-jr> Logging you in as "GuestRYMK"; you may use this name to play unrated games.
05:03 <cusco> in teh command line
05:03 <cusco> ok hold
05:03 <ct|kyle> we need to get armagetronad on gOS
05:04 <luke-jr> ⁇?
05:04 <cusco> 2 minutes only?!
05:04 <cusco> your turn :P
05:04 <luke-jr> I didn't configure it!
05:04 <cusco> yea!
05:04 <luke-jr> r5848 was the last pre-zonesv2 rev
05:04 <cusco> ok hold
05:05 <ct|kyle> 7224
05:05 <cusco> err
05:05 <cusco> so
05:05 <cusco> wich?
05:05 <luke-jr> 5848
05:05 <ct|kyle> wrtl tol me 7224
05:05 <ct|kyle> told*
05:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle doesn't know what he's talking about
05:05 <cusco> ok
05:06 <ct|kyle> although there are zone errors in it such as DZ's not showing up
05:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I'm talking about what actually works
05:07 <ct|kyle> 7224 works just not for a lot od DZ's
05:09 <cusco> cheque
05:09 <luke-jr> how did you do that?
05:09 <luke-jr> side-moves for pawns are capture only…
05:10 <cusco> precisely
05:10 <cusco> I captured
05:10 <cusco> time goes to -
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05:13 <cusco> make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/armagetronad-0.3/src/thirdparty/mathexpr'
05:13 <cusco> make[4]: *** No rule to make target `Makefile.am', needed by `Makefile.in'.  Stop.
05:13 <cusco> can't build!
05:14 <luke-jr> #later tell guru3 Lucifer wanted to +m the room (didn't give a reason) and got pissed off when I -m'd it so the conversation (unrelated to him) could continue
05:14 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
05:14 <luke-jr> cusco: ?
05:14 <cusco> I can't buld that revision
05:14 <cusco> dunno why
05:17 <luke-jr> hm
05:19 <luke-jr> jerk
05:19 <cusco> lol
05:27 <luke-jr> crap
05:27 <cusco> lol
05:27 <cusco> i still have 44 seconds to play ! :P
05:28 <luke-jr> jerk
05:28 <cusco> hey... lets try one of those diferent modes afterwards
05:30 <luke-jr> cusco: you suck
05:30 <cusco> I know!
05:31 <cusco> Im gonna send u a challenge
05:31 <cusco> after just type accept
05:31 <cusco> in the cli
05:32 <luke-jr> ⁂* Starting FICS session as GuestJDFC(U) ⁂*
05:32 <luke-jr> what makes you think I have a CLI? :þ
05:33 <cusco> accept
05:33 <cusco> oh
05:33 <cusco> you sent me a standard
05:34 <luke-jr> I did?
05:34 <cusco> now you sent a blitz, thats what we ve been playing
05:34 <cusco> arenand Im sending u games and u not accepting
05:35 <cusco> lol
05:35 <cusco> off to bed I am!
05:35 <luke-jr> I clicked accept!
05:35 <cusco> next time
05:35 <cusco> :/
05:35 <cusco> here you're sending games out
05:35 <cusco> well nevermind
05:35 <cusco> gotta sleep really
05:35 <cusco> bye
05:36 <cusco> oi
05:36 <cusco> don't forget
05:36 <cusco> god does not exist
05:36 <cusco> thank you bye
05:36 <luke-jr> liar
05:41 <GodTodd> dammit
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05:58 <spidey_> #weather 38256
05:58 <armabot> spidey_: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 36.3°F (11:03 PM CST on November 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising).
05:58 <spidey_> it's fucking cold!
05:58 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:58 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 59.0°F (11:04 PM CST on November 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.21 in 989.1 hPa (Falling).
05:58 <GodTodd> yes it is :/
05:58 <spidey_> ...
05:58 <spidey_> you call that cold?
05:58 <GodTodd> yep
05:58 <spidey_> we call that a nice day
05:58 <spidey_> heh
05:59 <GodTodd> not my fault you guys picked a cold area ;)
05:59 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
05:59 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 39.2°F (10:52 PM CST on November 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
05:59 <GodTodd> yeah...don't miss that
06:00 <spidey_> it's like
06:00 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
06:00 <spidey_> 30F in the house
06:00 <spidey_> >.>
06:00 <spidey_> so i'ma go to bed under my 3 blankets
06:00 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 42.8°F (9:51 PM MST on November 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
06:00 <spidey_> #night
06:00 <armabot> Good night spidey_!
06:00 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
06:01 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 63.3°F (10:02 PM MST on November 16, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising).  Record or near record high temperatures Saturday through Monday...
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06:56 <luke-jr> #later tell cusco I didn't know what I was talking about either-- try rev 7293
06:56 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
06:56 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: or any other dev: ping
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07:09 <MrBougo> hiho
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12:40 <vinavil> i cannot find an efficacious translation for "poll"
12:41 <luke-jr_> O.o
12:41 <luke-jr_> what language?
12:41 <vinavil> italian translations for that word do not sound good for the meaning armagetron use it
12:42 <luke-jr_> hm
12:42 <luke-jr_> no elections? XD
12:43 <luke-jr_> tally?
12:45 <vinavil> we have the word "sondaggio"
12:45 <vinavil> but it is more close to forums poll meaning than voting one
12:46 <vinavil> or we have "votazione"
12:46 <vinavil> that is more like voting than poll
12:47 <luke-jr_> ?
12:47 <luke-jr_> forums poll?
12:48 <vinavil> so,  a sentence could be "player x ha votato contro la votazione..." that sounds bad. like "player x voted against the voting..."
12:48 <vinavil> yes, do you know when in a forum you start a poll, with a question and possible answers
12:49 <vinavil> we call that "sondaggio"
12:49 <MrBougo> hehe
12:50 <vinavil> but actually every translation of "poll" lacks the meaning required in armagetron
12:50 <madmax> are you translating the game? :P
12:50 <vinavil> yes, i am
12:51 <madmax> cool
12:52 <luke-jr_> vinavil: that sounds like the same kind of poll
12:52 <luke-jr_> [05:54:26] <vinavil> yes, do you know when in a forum you start a poll, with a question and possible answers
12:53 <vinavil> yes, but it is not the same meaning
12:53 <luke-jr_> :/
12:53 <luke-jr_> it sounds the same
12:53 <vinavil> if i use "sondaggio" i have to change the structure at all
12:53 <madmax> "voted against the >kick poll<"?
12:56 <madmax> translated accordingly of course...
12:57 <vinavil> for example, to say "player x voted against poll "kick rain"" i have to write " il giocatore x ha votato contro il sondaggio per eliminare il giocatore rain dal gioco"
12:57 <vinavil> and it sounds ugly
12:58 <vinavil> better i change the whole concept
12:58 <madmax> why not eliminate the second giocatore?
12:58 <vinavil> what do you mean?
12:59 <madmax> il giocatore x ha votato contro il sondaggio per eliminare rain dal gioco
12:59 <madmax> sounds better
13:00 <madmax> it's still correct, right?
13:02 <vinavil> yes, of course. just "x ha votato contro il sondaggio per eliminare rain dal gioco" sounds better,
13:02 <vinavil> but, if i remember well, you are portuguese and you see that
13:02 <vinavil> "madmax voted against for poll "kick rain""
13:02 <vinavil> is way more flowing
13:03 <vinavil> the fact is translating i have first to translate and second to "italianize" the sentence
13:06 <vinavil> i could eliminate the word itself, using "propose" verb instead
13:06 <luke-jr_> but it was already proposed…
13:07 <luke-jr_> how about "agrees with"?
13:09 <vinavil> like: "madmax proposed to kick rain" "madmax ha proposto di eliminare rain dal gioco"
13:09 <vinavil> but then the problem is with "agree"
13:09 <vinavil> "to agree" doesn't exist in italian
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13:09 <luke-jr_> wtf
13:10 <luke-jr_> you can't agree?
13:10 <luke-jr_> how about approval
13:10 <vinavil> we use "essere d'accordo" "to be in agreement"
13:10 <vinavil> or "concordare" "concord", but it is formal
13:11 <luke-jr_> what's wrong with that?
13:11 <vinavil> "approvare", that may work
13:12 <vinavil> luke-jr_, the problem is when you form the sentence.
13:12 <vinavil> if i use "essere d'accordo" i'll get: "rain è stato d'accordo con madmax per eliminare rain dal gioco"
13:13 <luke-jr_> what do you have against rain anyhow?
13:13 <vinavil> lol
13:13 <vinavil> i am rain
13:13 <luke-jr_> o
13:13 <luke-jr_> ^^;;
13:14 <vinavil> heh
13:14 <madmax> "madmax concorda com a eliminação de rain do jogo" hmm...
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13:15 <vinavil> interesting madmax
13:15 <vinavil> let me italianize
13:16 <luke-jr_> ?
13:16 <vinavil> "rain ha proposto di eliminare madmax dal gioco"
13:16 <vinavil> "madmax approva l'eliminazione di rain dal gioco"
13:16 <vinavil> rain disapprova l'eliminazione di rain dal gioco"
13:17 <vinavil> that is perfect
13:17 <madmax> ^^
13:17 <vinavil> thx max
13:17 <vinavil> forunately languages have some roots in common
13:18 <vinavil> the problem now is how to call it in the menu
13:21 <madmax> the "kick menu"?
13:21 <vinavil> yes
13:22 <vinavil> oh no, the value is not the player's name, but "kick player"
13:23 <madmax> not sure if kick should be translated
13:24 <vinavil> uff
13:25 <vinavil> so i have to use "sondaggio"
13:25 <vinavil> bleah
13:25 <madmax> perhaps you could check a popular game with an italian translation
13:26  * madmax notes he's thinking of helping with the portuguese translation
13:27 <vinavil> "rain ha proposto il sondaggio "kick madmax""
13:27 <vinavil> "madmax ha votato contro il sondaggio "kick madmax"
13:27 <vinavil> "luke ha votato a favore il sondaggio "kick madmax"
13:27 <vinavil> mah mih moh mah
13:27 <luke-jr_> ..
13:29 <madmax> is sondaggio more like survey?
13:29 <luke-jr_> vinavil: check quake4
13:29 <luke-jr_> or nwn
13:29 <luke-jr_> those are the only two games w/ linguas_it in Gentoo
13:30 <vinavil> madmax, yes it is
13:30 <vinavil> luke-jr_, where can i find language files for those games?
13:31 <luke-jr_>         ${UPDATE_BASEURL}/nwitalian${MY_PV}.tar.gz )
13:31 <luke-jr_> UPDATE_BASEURL="http://files.bioware.com/neverwinternights/updates/linux"
13:31 <vinavil> madmax, the fact is "poll" translation does not exist in italian
13:31 <luke-jr_> MY_PV is 129
13:32 <luke-jr_> SRC_URI="mirror://idsoftware/quake4/linux/quake4-linux-${PV}.x86.run"
13:32 <luke-jr_> PV is 1.4.2
13:32 <luke-jr_> idsoftware      ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff ftp://dl.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/idsoftware/idstuff ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pc/games/idgames/idstuff ftp://ftp.mancubus.net/pub/idgames/idstuff ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/mirrors/idsoftware ftp://ftp.mirror.nl/pub/mirror/idsoftware/idstuff ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/idgames/idstuff ftp://ii3dg.iinet.net.au/games/idstuff ftp://ftp.gamers.org/pub/idgames/idstuff
13:32 <luke-jr_> ftp://ftp.nsu.ru/mirrors/ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff
13:33 <MrBougo> :o
13:36 <vinavil> i will take a look, thx luke
13:36 <luke-jr_> http://nwdownloads.bioware.com/neverwinternights/linux/129/nwclient129.tar.gz
13:37 <luke-jr_> I wonder if that could be considered violating copyright..
13:37 <vinavil> lol
13:38 <vinavil> i'm off, thx for help
13:38 <vinavil> bye
13:38 <madmax> cya
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16:19 <KeY_3113> hey
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16:23 <K-Yo> i can't manage installing arma on gusty....
16:23 <K-Yo> firefox says the package has an error :S
16:26 <luke-jr_> what would firefox know?
16:26 <luke-jr_> it's not a package manager
16:26 <luke-jr_> I hope
16:26 <K-Yo> i don't know, when i click on the link, it says there is an error
16:26 <luke-jr_> what link?
16:27 <K-Yo> i tried the 3 links on the dl section for linux
16:27 <luke-jr_> link
16:27 <luke-jr_> I don't see any gutsy downloads
16:27 <K-Yo> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/armagetronad/armagetronad-
16:28 <K-Yo> i tried this one
16:28 <K-Yo> and the feisty one
16:28 <K-Yo> doesn't arma works on gusty?
16:28 <luke-jr_> I concur
16:28 <luke-jr_> those links are broken
16:28 <K-Yo> ah
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16:29 <luke-jr_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/games/armagetronad
16:29 <luke-jr_> it appears Ubuntu supports Arma on Gutsy!
16:29 <K-Yo> great
16:30 <K-Yo> i'll try that
16:31 <K-Yo> cu got to reach ubuntu XD
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16:43 <k-yo> hey
16:43 <k-yo> it worked perfectly thanks luke-jr
16:45 <luke-jr_> np
16:46 <k-yo> we can't use 2.8.3 yet on ubuntu? i used it on windows
16:46 <luke-jr_> no such thing
16:46 <k-yo> ok
16:46 <luke-jr_> for one thing, we're not even at 1.0 yet
16:46 <luke-jr_> everything is 0.*
16:46 <luke-jr_> and the latest stable is
16:47 <k-yo>
16:47 <k-yo> i meant
16:47 <luke-jr_> does not exist
16:47 <k-yo> hum
16:48 <k-yo> sry, 0.3 i meant
16:48 <luke-jr_> 0.3 is not stable, nor meant to be
16:48 <luke-jr_> no surprise Ubuntu treats it like such
16:48 <k-yo> okay
16:49 <k-yo> i'll wait then and play with 0.2 meanwhile
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18:11 <duudii> #seen Angel
18:11 <armabot> duudii: I have not seen Angel.
18:11 <duudii> #seen Angel-H
18:11 <armabot> duudii: Angel-H was last seen in #armagetron 11 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <Angel-H> hi :)
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20:33 <Legionnaire> oO
20:33 <Legionnaire> Oo
20:33  * Legionnaire waves hello
20:34 <MrBougo> hayhay
20:34 <Legionnaire> BOUGO!!
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20:34 <Legionnaire> bonjour! ca va?
20:34 <MrBougo> WHEREWHERE?
20:34 <MrBougo> super!
20:34 <Legionnaire> =D
20:34 <MrBougo> et toi?
20:34 <Legionnaire> i have not seen you online in ages
20:34 <Legionnaire> "bof"
20:34 <Legionnaire> =)
20:34 <MrBougo> online here or on arma?
20:34 <Legionnaire> tres bien!
20:34 <Legionnaire> arma
20:35 <Legionnaire> i never go on irc =S
20:35 <MrBougo> i never play arma =S
20:35 <MrBougo> yay! synced lines!
20:35 <MrBougo> i'm in nexuiz now
20:36 <MrBougo> but i'm still connecting here, because arma people are nice :D
20:36 <Legionnaire> =( it has been a very long time since you have
20:36 <Legionnaire> =D
20:36 <Legionnaire> like me? oO
20:36 <Legionnaire> Oo
20:36 <MrBougo> wee!
20:36  * MrBougo plays nexuiz
20:36 <Legionnaire> what is nexuiz?
20:36 <MrBougo> no more arcade, more fps
20:36 <Legionnaire> oO
20:36 <Legionnaire> Oo
20:36 <MrBougo> nexuiz, based on darkplaces, based on quake 1
20:36  * Legionnaire loves nail gun!
20:36 <MrBougo> darkplaces == opensource engine based on quake 1
20:37 <Legionnaire> oO
20:37 <Legionnaire> Oo
20:37 <MrBougo> but it looks better than Q1
20:37 <Legionnaire> this is to cleaver for me to understand lol
20:37 <Legionnaire> do you have nail gun?
20:37 <Legionnaire> like on Q1
20:38 <MrBougo> yay!
20:39  * Legionnaire pokes Bougo
20:39 <Legionnaire> what is your name?
20:39 <Legionnaire> francais?
20:39 <Legionnaire> Jaque?
20:39 <MrBougo> ?
20:39 <MrBougo> rofl
20:39 <Legionnaire> Cristophe?
20:39 <Legionnaire> xD
20:39 <MrBougo> Cédric
20:40 <MrBougo> with an accent :o
20:40 <Legionnaire> oO
20:40 <Legionnaire> Oo
20:41 <Legionnaire> It is a norman name
20:41 <Legionnaire> =D
20:42 <Legionnaire> Bougo! i must leave, maybe i will come back some point and have a propper conversation =) <3
20:42 <Legionnaire> bonsoir :x
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20:44 <vinavil> another problem translating. it is hard to differentiate the words ban and kick in italian. in facts the effect is the same, a player gets expelled, just the effect lenght change. i also cannot use the sport (like soccer) correspondents, because a "booking" "ammonizione" doesn't keep the meaning of the action, that is actually an expulsion. i can try tweaking the sense or i can use an ugly "italianization" like: "kickare". what do you s
20:45 <MrBougo> aw
20:45 <MrBougo> your job seems to be complicated
20:45 <madmax> lol
20:45 <vinavil> heh
20:45 <MrBougo> vinavil: i'd look for the italian IRC words
20:45 <MrBougo> there's also kick and ban
20:46 <vinavil> mm
20:46 <vinavil> ok, bougo, join #oops-clan
20:52 <MrBougo> :p
20:52 <vinavil> oh, it use "cacciato"
20:52 <vinavil> mmm
20:52 <vinavil> interesting
21:04 <MrBougo> bye!
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22:33 <madmax> #lastseen gonzap
22:33 <armabot> madmax: Gonzap has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 40 minutes ago.
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