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Log from 2007-10-22:
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00:56 <Lucifer> GodTodd_!
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02:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer!
02:22 <Lucifer> GodTodd!
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02:34 <GodTodd> Lucifer!
02:34 <Lucifer> heh, my four year old just said his foot needs dr pepper
02:35 <GodTodd> heh
02:35 <Lucifer> I should take him into the kitchen and poor dr pepper on his foot
02:35 <Lucifer> *pour
02:35 <Lucifer> I need to irc a lot less, my spelling has gotten atrocious
02:36 <GodTodd> it'll do that
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03:04 <GodTodd> blarg
03:05 <GodTodd> looks like another round of ndiswrapper for a friggin integrated wireless :/
03:05 <Lucifer> karen's?
03:06 <GodTodd> yeah...she got a new laptop yesterday
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03:06 <GodTodd> and is *very* against vista already
03:07 <spidey> vista owns you
03:07 <GodTodd> and apparently ubuntu/kubuntu doesn't recognize her wireless out of the box
03:15 <Lucifer> so you're tearing vista off and putting ubuntu on it?
03:15 <Lucifer> spidey: no, vista owns you.  vista's not in my house.  :)
03:16 <spidey> VISTA VIRTUALLY OWNS YOUO
03:20 <GodTodd> Lucifer: if i can get het wireless working, yeah
03:20 <GodTodd> the*
03:38 <Lucifer> cold front's supposed to be here in about 3 hours
03:39 <Lucifer> GodTodd: what kind of wireless does she have?
03:39 <GodTodd> realtek 8187b
03:39 <GodTodd> i believe
03:40 <GodTodd> yeah RTL8187B
03:41 <Lucifer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546663&highlight=Realtek
03:41 <Lucifer> what kernel did it install?
03:41 <Lucifer> there's supposed to be a native linux driver in 2.6.23
03:42 <Lucifer> http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page
03:42 <GodTodd> i haven't installed it yet....it's the 7.10 livecd
03:42 <Lucifer> http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac80211
03:48 <Lucifer> you need to build a custom kernel for that
03:48 <Lucifer> best bet looks to be getting the win98/ndiswrapper thing going until ubuntu moves on to a .23 or later kernel that gives a native driver
03:49 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what i was thinking
03:49 <GodTodd> also, i did the upgrade thing on the kitchen machine and now i have to find out why the wireless there is not working now :/
03:50 <GodTodd> grrr
03:50 <Lucifer> heh
03:50 <Lucifer> did it upgrade ndiswrapper?  I've seen several kernel updates recently but no ndiswrapper update
03:50 <Lucifer> it hasn't hurt me, so I haven't worried about it
03:50 <GodTodd> dunno...that one wasn't working on ndiswrapper
03:50 <GodTodd> it was recognized
03:50 <Lucifer> wait, I did get something upgraded the other night that required me to reset my net configuration
03:51 <GodTodd> and it shows that i have wireless but it's not using it
03:51 <Lucifer> ah, do you have to tell it to connect manually?
03:51 <Lucifer> I have to do that, it's a pain
03:51 <GodTodd> i do on here
03:52 <GodTodd> never had to on there
03:52 <GodTodd> but when i do, it doesn't work
03:52 <Lucifer> encrypted?
03:52 <GodTodd> nope
03:52 <Lucifer> maybe it deleted the pass phrase when it upgraded :)
03:52 <GodTodd> it sees no networks
03:52 <Lucifer> onboard wireless or pci card?
03:52 <GodTodd> pci
03:53 <Lucifer> does lspci show the card?
03:53 <GodTodd> sec, i'll make sure
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03:57 <GodTodd> yep it do
03:57 <Lucifer> 184145 files and directories currently installed.  <--- eek!
03:57 <Lucifer> did you try modprobing the module?
03:57 <GodTodd> no...
03:57 <Lucifer> what's the card?
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03:57 <GodTodd> it's an atheros or something like that
03:58 <Lucifer> ath5k?
03:58 <Lucifer> sudo modprobe ath5k
03:58 <Lucifer> :)
03:59 <GodTodd> ar2413 it looks like
03:59 <GodTodd> and ath0 is what it is usually on
04:00 <Lucifer> well, do the modprobe, then /etc/init.d/networking restart and see what happens
04:00 <GodTodd> modprobe on the ar2413?
04:00 <Lucifer> I've noticed some upgrades disabling kernel modules when they shouldn't be
04:00 <Lucifer> yeah
04:00 <GodTodd> k
04:00 <Lucifer> modprobe inserts the module into a running kernel
04:00 <Lucifer> why it's called modprobe I don't know
04:01 <Lucifer> probably because unlike insmod it actually searches on disk for the module
04:01 <Lucifer> http://openclipart.org/media/view/media/home  <--- openclipart is back up
04:02 <GodTodd> module not found
04:02 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
04:02 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 75.0°F (9:02 PM CDT on October 21, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Rising).
04:05 <Lucifer> curiouser and curiouser
04:05 <Lucifer> sure that's the right module?
04:06 <Lucifer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569636
04:06 <Lucifer> you need to install the restricted modules package, apparently
04:08 <GodTodd> ah...ok
04:08 <GodTodd> thing is...i had to *disable* that to do the upgrade
04:08 <GodTodd> heh
04:27 <Lucifer> didn't realize it was time to upgrade :)
04:28  * Lucifer just started his server and laptop upgrading
04:30 <Lucifer> is it worth upgrading?
04:30 <Lucifer> Uptime: 4 days and 33 minutes
04:34 <luke-jr> um
04:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what characters are valid for Authors?
04:47 <Lucifer> luke-jr: in a map?  I don't know...
04:47 <Lucifer> utf-8 encoding, isn't it?
04:47 <luke-jr> yeah
04:47 <Lucifer> then any character allowed in utf-8 :)
04:47 <luke-jr> but that doesn't mean we need to allow everything
04:47 <luke-jr> especially when there's a high probability it will break with our existing code
04:49 <luke-jr> (unrelated) btw, probably no civ from me for a while; my son was just born
04:50 <Lucifer> yeah, we don't want your son to get any of the nuclear fallout
04:50 <Lucifer> author isn't shown anywhere, and afaik is pretty much ignored
04:50 <Lucifer> I'd say we probably have to go with LCD on the filesystem, since the filename comes from the author field
04:56 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Author is used in directory filenames
04:56 <luke-jr> yeah
04:57 <luke-jr> I suspect '$' isn't supported somewhere
04:57 <luke-jr> or is at least a special char
04:57 <luke-jr> any reason not to stick with a-zA-Z0-9_?
05:03 <GodTodd> grrr...any way to fix adept manager without internet and without a full reinstall?
05:03 <GodTodd> or...alternately...know off the top where the repositories manager config file is?
05:13 <luke-jr> /etc/apt?
05:35 <Lucifer> GodTodd: no, I don't, but I can look real quick
05:35 <Lucifer> I wound up installing update-manager because adept is crap
05:36 <Lucifer>  /etc/apt
05:36 <Lucifer> files in there are named pretty obviously
05:50 <GodTodd> yeah...that didn't work :/
05:50 <GodTodd> when i open the manager it says something else is using it
05:50 <GodTodd> and that's just not true
05:50 <GodTodd> so i can't reenable that repo
05:50 <GodTodd> livecd sees my NIC just fine
05:51 <GodTodd> so i may just reinstall with 7.10 and re-setup sharing...should be easier with karen on kubuntu
05:52 <GodTodd> (our internet fucked up pretty bad during upgrade and i got a lot of errors on it...so i think i have a half-upgrade) :/
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06:41 <luke-jr> actually, I've heard 7.10 has a really messed up X.org
06:41 <luke-jr> so it might be more than just X that they're screwing with
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07:12 <Lucifer> hmmm, I could send you a file to put in there
07:12 <spidey> u
07:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd: hopefully it's not too late ^^^^^^^
07:13 <GodTodd> nah...haven't done anything drastic yet :)
07:13 <Lucifer> I need to finish my upgrade here before I send you anything to make sure I've actually got the right information to send
07:13 <GodTodd> np
07:14 <Lucifer> I think it's saved already, because the adept update manager is telling me I need to update, so it's checked the repos already
07:14 <Lucifer> anyway, my idea is to replace those repo files with mine and rerun the upgrade :)
07:14 <Lucifer> so if it did screw up and only half upgrade, it'll fix it
07:14 <GodTodd> that's what i want to do...but the pack manager won't let me do it
07:14 <GodTodd> heh
07:16 <GodTodd> tho, i'ma be switching laptops soon...not sure if i'll upgrade this one before tommy gets it
07:16 <GodTodd> karen's old lappy has 50GB more hdd and is a 2.4GHz while this is an 800MHz
07:17 <GodTodd> double the ram too
07:17 <Lucifer> so whatcha going to do with the one tommy already uses?  ;)
07:18 <GodTodd> it goes to conor
07:18 <GodTodd> ;)
07:18  * Lucifer pounces on any perceived opportunity to get hardware
07:18 <GodTodd> depends on the hardware you need
07:18 <Lucifer> any/all?  ;)
07:18 <GodTodd> we have two broke ass lappys under the bed that probably have some good parts
07:18 <Lucifer> I'm actually concerned about the hard drive right now in my laptop
07:18 <Lucifer> and I generally need portable machines anyway
07:19 <Lucifer> what's wrong with the two under the bed?
07:19 <GodTodd> not sure
07:19 <GodTodd> i'll have to ask karen to remind me
07:19 <GodTodd> i think it's a power thing
07:19 <GodTodd> oh wait
07:19 <GodTodd> no
07:19 <GodTodd> they overheat
07:19 <GodTodd> that's what it is
07:19 <Lucifer> that's it?
07:19 <GodTodd> afaik
07:20 <GodTodd> haven't had a chance to break them open and look at them
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07:20 <Lucifer> only reason a laptop would overheat that didn't previously is either broken fans, or very dirty
07:20 <GodTodd> yep
07:21 <Lucifer> there's the outside chance the circuit that kicks on the fans is broke, but that's like really rare
07:21 <GodTodd> most probably broke fans
07:21 <Lucifer> depending on how much work you want to do, there's an easy fix for that :)
07:21 <GodTodd> replace the fan :P
07:22 <Lucifer> I was thinking more like just tearing them open and pointing a fan at them
07:22 <Lucifer> useless as laptops then, but then I don't know what the availability of replacement fans is for laptops
07:22 <Lucifer> although i should find out, because I've got a rattling fan
07:23 <Lucifer> but yeah, I'd be interested in one or both of them.  If they run and then just shut down because of overheating, then one of them is perfect for my car
07:23 <Lucifer> would tear it open and give it a custom cooling system (needed for the car anyway), and it would give me a display.  :)
07:25 <Lucifer> man, we've got bugs that just won't die
07:25 <Lucifer> I stepped on this water roach a little while ago and cracked open his shell, and he's bleeding his guts out, but still trying to crawl around lookin for food
07:25 <luke-jr> liar
07:26 <Lucifer> did the same thing with two grasshoppers last night.  Managed to get one of them, but the other one got away with only 3 working legs, all on the same side
07:26 <Lucifer> why didn't the ignore command work on luke this last time?  :(
07:28 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
07:28 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 71.2°F (12:27 AM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).
07:28 <Lucifer> that cold front is supposed to be arriving now
07:30 <MrBougo> http://xkcd.com/ haha today's armabotwesome
07:30 <MrBougo> damn, i hit tab
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07:36 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:36 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 73.0°F (11:48 PM CDT on October 21, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
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07:40 <GodTodd> Lucifer: i'll try to diagnose them a bit better in the next week or so
07:48 <GodTodd> snazzy...the usb wifi card for my new lappy works outta the box :)
07:53 <GodTodd> hrmm...do *all* radeons have trouble with the 3d stuff?
08:20 <Lucifer> apparently
08:20 <Lucifer> personally I'm hoping Gusty has better support for nvidia
08:22 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
08:22 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 71.2°F (1:22 AM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
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08:56 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
08:56 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 70.9°F (1:57 AM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
09:06 <Lucifer> grrr
09:06 <Lucifer> rebooting my server meant rebooting my DNS server :(
09:06 <Lucifer> #ping
09:06 <armabot> pong
09:09 <spidey> #weather 38256
09:10 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in 5 mi NE of, Paris, Tennessee is 52.7°F (2:13 AM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady).
09:10 <spidey> 52?
09:10 <Lucifer> it's colder here than the weather thing says, the cold front has deifnitely arrived
09:10 <spidey> it feels like it's 78 in the house
09:10 <spidey> and we don't even have the heater on
09:11 <spidey> anywho
09:11 <spidey> brb
09:12 <Lucifer> GodTodd: it's possible your installation broke because you had a custom pyqt4 installed
09:12 <Lucifer> I'm encountering that right now
09:15 <Lucifer> ok, rebooting, probably have a broke-ass system
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10:04 <luke-jr> GodTodd: only new ones
10:04 <luke-jr> because proper drivers are still in development for them
10:04 <luke-jr> try again in a year
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14:04 <epsy> hey
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18:50 <madmax> hello
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19:54 <Gursikh> #weather 77381
19:54 <armabot> Gursikh: The current temperature in The Woodlands, Texas is 58.6°F (12:55 PM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
19:54 <Gursikh> sooo nasty outside ^^^
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21:59 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
21:59 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 55.9°F (3:02 PM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this afternoon...
21:59 <Lucifer> it's fucking cold!
22:00  * Lucifer says that while he's telling his kids it's not cold.
22:00 <Lucifer> brb
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22:25 <epsy> damn phpBB
22:25 <epsy> it started on forums.aa.net to not mark topics as read
22:25 <epsy> extreme annoy
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22:45 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
22:45 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 57.4°F (3:47 PM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this afternoon...
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23:21 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
23:21 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 57.4°F (4:22 PM CDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this afternoon...
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23:38 <Lucifer> man, I should've thought of covering the xprizecup as a way of paying for the trip sooner.  I might already have an editor willing to go for it
23:43 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:43 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 77.0°F (5:46 PM EDT on October 22, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).

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