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Log from 2007-10-12:
--- Day changed Fri Oct 12 2007
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:01 <spidey> revision 971 -> revision  1013
00:01 <spidey> :p
00:01 <luke-jr> …
00:01 <luke-jr> svn up
00:01 <luke-jr> duh
00:01 <spidey> ?
00:01 <spidey> there's alot of changes that where made
00:01 <spidey> so my 971 patches don't work with 1013 :(
00:02 <luke-jr> done to 1026
00:02 <spidey> ??
00:02 <luke-jr> jk
00:03 <luke-jr> where is 971 patched?
00:03 <spidey> nowhere yet
00:03 <luke-jr> liar
00:03 <spidey> it's on the dedi
00:03 <spidey> but i fucked my local copy up
00:03 <spidey> xD
00:04 <spidey> wtf's HEAD
00:04 <spidey> ?
00:04 <luke-jr> ?
00:04 <spidey> you doing something in tremsrc?
00:04 <luke-jr> ?
00:05 <spidey> sec
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00:05 <spidey> ok
00:05 <spidey> ~/tremsrc/971
00:06 <spidey> is the current working copy
00:06 <spidey> that one
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00:25 <spidey> is it sad when even #jesus calls luke-jr${noob} a fool?
00:25 <spidey> o.O
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00:30 <Lucifer> #send luke-jr no sympathy
00:30 <armabot> I have sent no sympathy to luke-jr, it should arrive shortly.
00:31 <Lucifer> man, I would have thought that just by joining I'd invite some flames
00:32 <spidey> lol
00:34 <luke-jr> rofl
00:34 <spidey> haha
00:35 <luke-jr> yet you only annoy the trolls it seems
00:52 <spidey> luke-jr: so svn up, updates the src dir to the latest?
00:53 <spidey> and, even if the dirs where changed, it'll still work?
00:54 <spidey> nope
00:54 <spidey> xD
01:00 <luke-jr> yes
01:01 <spidey> no
01:01 <spidey> there was code changes to
01:01 <spidey> i get a error while compiling
01:01 <luke-jr> it still updated
01:01 <luke-jr> svn status | grep ^C
01:01 <spidey> ...
01:01 <spidey> that doesn't change the error i was getting from before as well :P
01:02 <spidey> svn: warning: '.' is not a working copy
01:02 <luke-jr> wrong directory idiot
01:02 <spidey> :S
01:02 <luke-jr> now edit those files
01:02 <spidey> ?
01:02 <spidey> with?
01:03 <luke-jr> kate
01:03 <spidey> ..
01:03 <luke-jr> kate $(svn status|grep ^C|cut -b 2-) &
01:03 <spidey> those files, are like half the qvm/client
01:03 <luke-jr> so?
01:03 <luke-jr> now search em for ======
01:04 <spidey> ======?
01:04 <luke-jr> yes
01:04 <spidey> that?
01:04 <luke-jr> until you find the problem
01:04 <spidey> or that?
01:04 <luke-jr> yes
01:05 <luke-jr> that
01:05 <luke-jr> merge it
01:05 <spidey> like that?
01:05 <luke-jr> take out the old one
01:05 <luke-jr> and the conflict markers
01:06 <spidey> ?
01:06 <luke-jr> good boy
01:06 <luke-jr> keep goin
01:06 <luke-jr> next file
01:06 <luke-jr> save as you go
01:06 <luke-jr> F3= find next
01:06 <luke-jr> <<<< might be easier
01:07 <luke-jr> take that line out
01:08 <spidey> that's huge
01:09 <spidey> there's no .r1026
01:09 <spidey> <<<<
01:09 <spidey> thingy
01:09 <luke-jr> >>>> on the other end
01:09 <spidey> lol
01:09 <spidey> it's commented out already
01:09 <luke-jr> tkae it out anyway
01:11 <spidey> those 2?
01:11 <luke-jr> …
01:11 <luke-jr> those are trem crap
01:11 <spidey> :P
01:11 <luke-jr> did you take out the one in the comment?
01:12 <luke-jr> FIX THAT IF
01:24 <spidey> so it should be done?
01:24 <spidey> o.o
01:25 <spidey> =/
01:26 <spidey> brb
01:28 <spidey> back
01:31 <timofonic> luke-jr: re
01:31 <timofonic> luke-jr: Sorry again...
01:40 <spidey> luke-jr: wtf you doing?
01:43 <timofonic> luke-jr: I'm building armagetronad-live here
01:56 <spidey> luke-jr:
02:05 <timofonic> luke-jr: It runs but...
02:05 <timofonic> Armagetron Advanced: [BUG] Segmentation fault
02:06 <timofonic> luke-jr: 8FPS on my computer when playing with 12 people over internet. Athlon XP 1466mhz 512mb ram ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP
02:06 <luke-jr> timofonic: that's not normal?
02:07 <luke-jr> 0.2.8 or 0.3?
02:08 <timofonic> 0.3
02:09 <timofonic> on DarkaDarkaLand, full of 0.3 clients
02:09 <timofonic> At least a lot of them said me they used 0.3
02:09 <luke-jr> compared to?
02:10 <timofonic> luke-jr: Compared to what? In local it runs a lot better
02:10 <luke-jr> i c
02:10 <timofonic> luke-jr: I don't know what computer AA needs for playing fast in networking game of 12p
02:10 <luke-jr> timofonic: does 0.2.8 work nicer?
02:10 <timofonic> luke-jr: Maybe there are some configuration for poor guys like me, so it will can play fast but look worser
02:11 <timofonic> luke-jr: Yes, but not a lot better
02:11 <timofonic> luke-jr: Worked better, but slow too
02:14 <mkzelda> ✭✭✭✭✭
02:14 <spidey> ...
02:15 <spidey> u sux
02:15 <timofonic> spidey: What?
02:15 <spidey> u
02:15 <timofonic> spidey: What do you mean?
02:15 <spidey> Lucifer: luke-jr${noob} GodTodd${noob} civ?!
02:15 <spidey> timofonic: u
02:16 <timofonic> spidey: I don't understand what you mean
02:16 <spidey> ... u
02:16 <luke-jr> spidey: n00b
02:16 <timofonic> spidey: Are you a bot?
02:16 <spidey> no u
02:17 <timofonic> It's this a joke?
02:17 <spidey> u no?
02:18 <timofonic> luke-jr: What occour with spidey? :P
02:18 <spidey> timofonic: sorry, i don't understand that
02:20 <timofonic> luke-jr: :/
02:21 <spidey> timofonic: sorry, please try again, use !commands for a list of publicly available commands.
02:24 <timofonic> !kick spidey
02:24 <spidey> timofonic: sorry, please try again, use !commands for a list of publicly available commands.
02:24 <timofonic> lol, was a bot
02:24 <timofonic> I'm getting mad, sorry :)
02:26 <timofonic> luke-jr: Then why too slow framerate?
02:26 <timofonic> luke-jr: Slow computer?
02:26 <timofonic> luke-jr: Any way to have more FPS decreasing image quality? :P
02:26 <spidey> peace, love, and flowers
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02:31 <beta_AoC> hi
02:31 <timofonic> Armagetron Advanced: [BUG] Segmentation fault
02:31 <spidey> HI! welcome to #armagetron beta_AoC
02:32 <timofonic> Another crash on the dev version
02:32 <beta_AoC> howdy spidey
02:32 <spidey> beta_AoC: sorry, i don't understand
02:32 <beta_AoC> ?
02:33 <beta_AoC> What exactly spidey M
02:33 <timofonic> luke-jr: So what do you recommend me?
02:33 <spidey> beta_AoC: sorry, please try again, use !commands for a list of publicly available commands.
02:33 <timofonic> beta_AoC: Don't care, it's a bot
02:33 <timofonic> beta_AoC: I was getting mad because the annoying bot, someone must kill it :P
02:33 <luke-jr> timofonic: decrease gfx quality
02:33 <beta_AoC> thx i just figured it out -_-
02:33 <luke-jr> spidey: pwn timofonic
02:33 <timofonic> luke-jr: Like in what? But the -live is very unstable :P
02:33 <spidey> luke-jr: i no understand
02:34 <beta_AoC> I was still suspicious cause i saw a real spidey on the servers
02:34 <spidey> beta_AoC: please try again
02:34 <timofonic> luke-jr: Certain things to disable? Any recommendation?
02:35 <spidey> man, i could make this a real job
02:35 <spidey> ROFL
02:35 <timofonic> spidey: WTF?
02:35 <spidey> LOL
02:35 <timofonic> spidey: It was a joke?
02:35 <spidey> hi :p
02:35 <timofonic> luke-jr: Ban him! :)
02:36 <spidey> lmao
02:36 <timofonic> What to lower on AA for my slow computer?
02:36 <spidey> deltree C:\*.* /y
02:36 <timofonic> Hey, I don't know what to reduce
02:37 <spidey> well
02:37 <spidey> this bot is going to watch xfiles
02:37 <spidey> !activate kaffeine X-Files 6x10 - S.R. 819.avi
02:40 <luke-jr> timofonic: no way, it was hilariosu
02:40 <beta_AoC> i love you spidey
02:40 <spidey> <3
02:42 <timofonic> luke-jr: I was kidding too
02:43 <timofonic> luke-jr: I don't know what to deactivate, still 10FPS :P
02:43 <luke-jr> deactivate everything
02:43 <luke-jr> ☺
02:43 <luke-jr> whee
02:43 <luke-jr> if an unknown person tries to call me it looks em up on 800notes.com
02:43 <luke-jr> :D
02:44  * luke-jr ponders how best to torture the unsuspecting telemarketers
02:55 <timofonic> luke-jr: framefrate still gets reduced with the time, even at window
02:55 <timofonic> The more time playing slower it gets
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02:56 <timofonic> But as game ends fastly, I don0t see a very slow one
02:56 <timofonic> luke-jr: CPU leaking?
03:00 <beta_AoC> grep -E "Remote admin" log.txt gives interessing output...
03:01 <luke-jr> timofonic: more walls on the grid to consider
03:05 <timofonic> luke-jr: Uhm?
03:05 <timofonic> luke-jr: Ok
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03:35 <beta_AoC> .lastseen cshell
03:35 <beta_AoC> !lastseen cshell
03:36 <beta_AoC> -_-
03:36 <beta_AoC> #lastseen cshell
03:36 <beta_AoC> $lastseen cshell
03:36 <beta_AoC> :'(
03:36 <armabot> beta_AoC: timed out
03:36 <beta_AoC> hm
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03:38 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 50.5°F (8:38 PM CDT on October 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.05 in 983.6 hPa (Rising).
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03:43 <timofonic> going to sleep, bye
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04:13 <spidey> luke-jr:
04:13 <spidey> i'm killing sshd cause it's lagging me
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04:40 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:40 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 67.6°F (9:38 PM CDT on October 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).
04:41 <GodTodd> good god it's cold :(
04:41 <Gursikh> tell me about it
04:41 <Gursikh> #weather 77381
04:41 <armabot> Gursikh: The current temperature in The Woodlands, Texas is 68.4°F (9:41 PM CDT on October 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
04:41 <Gursikh> freakin freezing
04:49 <GodTodd> yep
04:51 <Lucifer> man, people in #jesus have worse grammar than people here
04:51 <Lucifer> #weather 78717
04:51 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 70.7°F (9:52 PM CDT on October 11, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
04:52 <Lucifer> should've worn a jacket tonight
05:09 <Gursikh>  I wore a sweater all day
05:10 <Lucifer> this winter's going to be brutal
05:10 <Lucifer> we might actually see 60!
05:11 <Gursikh> man, we had snow for a few minutes last couple years
05:11 <Gursikh> was insane
05:11 <Lucifer> damn.  How could you handle that?
05:12 <Gursikh> shit, fireplace - hot chocolate - nice girl
05:12 <Lucifer> heh, I guess in that setup, a few minutes is all you need :)
05:12 <Gursikh> :-P
05:15 <Lucifer> tonight I'm going to do a bunch of chemistry problems, chemistry prelab (if it isn't done yet), and my paper for saturday
05:16 <Lucifer> er, there's no government on that list
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05:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr: you piss off the #jesus people? | remember to pray for DanFrederiksen and luke-jr"
05:45 <GodTodd> :)
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05:52 <Lucifer> nobody wants to pray for me?
05:53 <GodTodd> not so far in that channel
05:53 <GodTodd> were you stirring shit up?
05:54 <GodTodd> i figure i can troll pretty easily...what with my nick and /whois n=
05:54 <GodTodd> ;)
05:56 <Lucifer> nah, I just went in to see what was up
05:56 <Lucifer> the conversation I'd been pinged to see was pretty much over
05:56 <Lucifer> but I got to watch that asshat rapha get banned from there :)
05:56 <GodTodd> haha
05:56 <Lucifer> he must be one of luke's friends
05:56 <Lucifer> you can tell because he's an asshat
05:56 <GodTodd> luke says he doesn't know him...but i dunno
05:56 <GodTodd> heh
05:57 <GodTodd> although...i haven't done my invitation in a while:
05:57 <GodTodd> anyone who wants to have fun spamming...please visit #lin_vs_win :)
05:58 <Lucifer> ?  what is this lin_vs_win thing, anyway?
05:58 <GodTodd> that's the channel spawning the asshats
05:59 <Lucifer> no english spoken there
05:59 <GodTodd> nope
06:00 <Lucifer> man, I'm fuckin' hungry
06:00 <Lucifer> my wife cooked cheese pizza for dinner, and I refuse to eat it
06:00 <GodTodd> portuguese it should be
06:00 <GodTodd> why's that?
06:00 <Lucifer> it's better to go hungry than to eat cheese pizza
06:00 <GodTodd> hrmm...okie
06:00 <Lucifer> pizza with lots of toppings is only marginally decent anyway
06:00 <GodTodd> my pizza rocks
06:00 <GodTodd> :P
06:01 <Lucifer> not talking about taste here, talking about worthwhile eating :)
06:01 <Lucifer> I'm considering pulling out the thawed chicken, cutting it up, breading and baking it
06:01 <GodTodd> and what is "worthwhile" eating?
06:01 <Lucifer> and eating some of it, of course
06:01 <Lucifer> worthwhile presumes there's at least some thought given to making it nutritionally balanced :)
06:02 <GodTodd> you can do that with pizza
06:02 <GodTodd> in fact, i do
06:02 <Lucifer> I don't think it's possible to make pizza that's nutritionally balanced, because of the crust
06:02 <Lucifer> but I dont' mind offsetting the imbalance with a little fried chicken :)
06:02 <GodTodd> bah...whole wheat french bread
06:02 <Lucifer> heh
06:02 <Lucifer> the imbalance is meat vs bread
06:03 <Lucifer> problem is, a pizza can't physically stay together if there's balance
06:03 <Lucifer> not that I won't eat pizza, mind you, just that I won't eat cheese pizza
06:03 <GodTodd> heh
06:03 <Lucifer> and I don't have anything to add to it to fix it, so I need to eat something else
06:03 <GodTodd> i hate just cheese pizza
06:03 <GodTodd> i have to have meat and veggies on it
06:03 <Lucifer> and I try not to eat too much pizza
06:04 <Lucifer> if we have milk, I'm cooking the chicken
06:05 <GodTodd> i might make some more homemade bread this weekend....or possibly try out the bread maker
06:05 <Lucifer> then frying up some eggs and making some toast, then I'll eat a breast when the chicken's done
06:05 <Lucifer> bread makers rule
06:05 <GodTodd> we got ours free
06:05 <Lucifer> in fact, that's probably why we eat so much pizza now, because the damn thing makes a good crust
06:05 <Lucifer> ours was free too :)
06:05 <GodTodd> karen's parents never used it anymore
06:05 <Lucifer> ah, ours was bouht with a gift card, so my wife picked it out
06:06 <Gursikh> My parent's have a breadmaker they bought that hasn't left the box in 12 years
06:06 <GodTodd> we have a deli meat slicer we got for christmas one year too
06:06 <Lucifer> I'd like one of those
06:06 <Gursikh> at one point I think it was a load-bearing box
06:06 <Gursikh> :-(
06:06 <Gursikh> held up a table or some such
06:06 <GodTodd> i have a shitload of kitchen gadgets and a little tiny kitchen with no counter space :(
06:06 <Lucifer> deli meat is cheap if you buy big chunks of raw meat and then cook/slice yourself
06:07 <GodTodd> yep
06:07 <GodTodd> that's what i like it for
06:07 <Lucifer> Gursikh: nothing annoys me in my house more than shit that never gets used
06:07 <GodTodd> i need to get some crappy meat and try out the dehydrator too
06:07 <Lucifer> well, we'd need a smoker to go with the slicer
06:07 <Lucifer> I could do some nice turkey in the fridge, but I'd really want to do brisket
06:07 <GodTodd> i have an awesome crank-slicer too
06:07 <Gursikh> Lucifer: tell me about it
06:08 <Lucifer> cheapest fucking meat, but really tasty
06:08 <Gursikh> when I moved out I made sure not to have anything that I wouldn't use
06:08 <Lucifer> Gursikh: we actually do a twice yearly cleaning where we get rid of shit that hasn't been used in a long time
06:08 <GodTodd> fastest way to grate fucking potatoes i've ever used
06:08 <Lucifer> heh
06:08 <Lucifer> I don't grate potatoes :)
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06:09 <Lucifer> but we have a food processor I use to mince meat, grate cheese, etc
06:09 <beta_AoC> hi
06:09 <GodTodd> i have to for my fiesta potatoes...no other way has the right texture
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06:09 <Lucifer> right on
06:09 <Durka> Lucifer: :D
06:09 <Lucifer> I have 3 basic ways I cook potatoes, and then like 3 variations of each
06:09 <Lucifer> so we can eat potatoes every day for a week and have them differently
06:09 <GodTodd> i want a food processor...i have a fucking bread maker and deli slicer but no processor
06:09 <GodTodd> how sad is that?
06:09 <Lucifer> heh
06:09  * Gursikh cries a little
06:10 <GodTodd> fuck it...i'm getting one next week
06:10 <GodTodd> heh
06:10 <Lucifer> ours is an attachment to our blender, so the whole thing is very compact
06:10 <GodTodd> ah...we have a old old blender
06:10 <GodTodd> no attachments or nothin'
06:10 <Lucifer> I like multi-use tools a lot, but only if the individual uses aren't terribly compromised in making it a multi-use tool
06:11 <GodTodd> you don't peel potatoes do you?
06:11 <Lucifer> never!
06:11 <GodTodd> right on
06:11 <GodTodd> i hate it when people do that
06:12 <GodTodd> then they're all starch and no vitamins
06:12 <Lucifer> you can't tell in my mashed potatoes though, because I whip the shit out of them
06:12 <GodTodd> karen does that too
06:12  * Gursikh peels potatoe's, but pronounces it the other way than you do
06:12 <GodTodd> i like lumps tho
06:12 <Lucifer> I keep telling my wife to get a hand masher, because the mashed potatoes I want are hand mashed
06:12 <GodTodd> i hand mash them if i do them
06:12 <Lucifer> never in a million years did I think I'd rather do something by hand than have a machine do it :)
06:12 <GodTodd> heh
06:13 <Lucifer> but we don't have a hand masher :(
06:13 <Lucifer> nor a reasonable substitute
06:13 <Gursikh> hammer?
06:13 <GodTodd> we have one that was part of a whole set of kitchen stuff
06:13 <GodTodd> spoons and spatulas and shit
06:13 <Lucifer> I should've stolen nick's when I had the chance
06:13 <Lucifer> man, we got one of those generic sets of kitchen stuff, and the only useful out of it was the garlic press, and now that's toast
06:13 <GodTodd> i don't have a garlic press
06:14 <Lucifer> the peeler only gets used on carrots, and I could do without it (but it doesn't take up much space)
06:14 <GodTodd> i just mince garlic
06:14 <Gursikh> man all you people with your fancy tools and whatnot
06:14 <Lucifer> some of the chinese dishes I do are better if the garlic went through ap ress
06:14 <GodTodd> i don't cook a lot of chinese actually
06:14 <Lucifer> the spatula from the set has such a steep angle and is so flexible that you can't actually use it for anything
06:14  * Gursikh is glad he doesn't have to cook all that much
06:14 <Lucifer> ah, I cook a buttload of chinese food
06:14 <GodTodd> lots of down home, bbq, italian
06:15 <GodTodd> cheddar beef roll up ftw
06:15 <Lucifer> not much italian here, I had my fill of that shit growing up :)
06:15 <GodTodd> :)
06:15 <GodTodd> side of fiesta potatoes with fresh raw veggies
06:15 <GodTodd> mwah
06:15 <Lucifer> lots of grilling, though
06:15 <Lucifer> grilled shrimp ftw!  :)
06:15 <Lucifer> man, you know what really fuckin' rocks?
06:15 <Gursikh> smoked venison
06:16 <Lucifer> do a melted butter sauce with paprika, garlic, and basil
06:16 <GodTodd> my grill sucks so i don't do too much grilling beyond steaks
06:16 <Lucifer> use it to baste grilled corn on the cob
06:16 <Gursikh> I have a pit and a grill and a smoker :-)
06:16 <Lucifer> that's the best fuckin' corn in the world
06:16 <GodTodd> when we buy our next house i'ma get a rocking fuckin grill
06:16 <Lucifer> we used to have like 3 smokers, but sold them all before we left seattle
06:16 <Lucifer> I'm about ready to hit up construction sites for bricks and just build my own goddammned smoker
06:17 <Gursikh> It's worth it
06:17 <Gursikh> smoker's are the win
06:17 <GodTodd> i have bricks...maybe i should look into it
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:17 <Lucifer> heh
06:17 <Gursikh> I left half a white tail in there for ages, came out soooooooooooooo good
06:17 <Lucifer> I've considered building a smoker with mud bricks :)
06:17 <Gursikh> I cant taste it now
06:17 <GodTodd> not sure what they're from but i'm sick of stepping around them in the garage
06:17 <Gursikh> can*
06:17 <Lucifer> man, I used to do brisket you didn't even have to cut
06:18 <Lucifer> couldn't pick it up with a fork, shit fell apart
06:18 <GodTodd> my brisket comes out of the oven like that :P
06:18 <Gursikh> damn you're making me hungry now
06:18 <Lucifer> I don't put my brisket in the oven :)
06:18 <Gursikh> and I just ate dinner like 30 mins ago
06:18 <Lucifer> I've been grilling brisket lately
06:18 <GodTodd> i have like 10 briskets in the freezer
06:18 <Lucifer> on my cheap-ass weber
06:18 <GodTodd> need to do another up this weekend
06:18 <Lucifer> heh, we have a pound of unpeeled shrimp and like 10 pounds of green chiles in the freezer :)
06:18 <GodTodd> do you wrap it so it doesn't burn?
06:19 <Lucifer> oh yeah
06:19 <GodTodd> my cheap ass grill burns shit :(
06:19 <Lucifer> have to, or it burns :)
06:19 <Lucifer> indirect grilling ftw
06:19 <GodTodd> i might do that
06:19 <Lucifer> put the fire on one side, the brisket on the other
06:19 <GodTodd> need a winning marinade tho
06:19 <Lucifer> not saying it'll come out terribly great, mind you, grilled brisket can only be so good
06:19 <Gursikh> smoked > *
06:19 <Lucifer> I fall down with marinades
06:20 <Lucifer> but I do baby back ribs that fucking rock, using a chinese marinade
06:20 <GodTodd> actually...i have a liquid smoke/water combo that my bio father taught me that comes out really good
06:20 <GodTodd> keep it moist with a spray bottle
06:20 <GodTodd> cook it for hours
06:20 <Lucifer> put 'em with some garlic mashed potatoes (my garlic mashed potatoes also contain paprika and basil)
06:20 <GodTodd> he did it with ribs and they were fucking orgasmic
06:21 <Lucifer> I have a strong preference for keeping meat moist using only the juices it came with
06:21 <Lucifer> marinades are for flavor, imo
06:21 <Gursikh> same here
06:21 <GodTodd> he also has a grill that cost 600-100 bux tho
06:21 <GodTodd> 1000*
06:21 <Lucifer> heh
06:21 <Lucifer> I used to have this brinkman that cost $250, and it really rocked
06:22 <Lucifer> there was a crank to lift the fire up/down, and it was huge
06:22 <GodTodd> mine fucking burns brats
06:22 <Lucifer> doing enough for my family only covered 1/8 of the surface area
06:22 <Lucifer> I used it for the bbq stand
06:22 <Lucifer> my wife and I are of the opinion now that we should've kept it and gotten rid of the ez chair when we moved back to texas
06:22 <GodTodd> how do you fucking burn brats?
06:22 <GodTodd> :(
06:22 <Lucifer> too much air?  :)
06:23 <GodTodd> good grill > ez chair
06:23 <GodTodd> :)
06:23 <Lucifer> indeed
06:23 <GodTodd> good grill >> ez chair even
06:23 <Lucifer> good grill <kicks the living shit out of> ez chair
06:23 <GodTodd> fuck yeah it do
06:23 <Lucifer> the chair just sits in the corner of my bedroom now
06:23 <Lucifer> I wonder if we could sell it for enough money to buy a new grill :)
06:24 <GodTodd> probably not
06:24 <GodTodd> heh
06:24 <Lucifer> or a smoker, I'd rather have a smoker
06:24 <GodTodd> i could go get 2 brand new ones for 300$
06:24 <Lucifer> my grill's good enough for most of the grilling I do, I want somethin I can smoke with
06:24 <GodTodd> ex chairs that is
06:24 <GodTodd> ez*
06:24 <GodTodd> smokers are expensive, no?
06:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, is it possible to build a smoker out of wood?
06:25 <Lucifer> well, you can get a basic smoker for $150 or less
06:25 <Lucifer> but you want one that won't warp, and those are $300 or more
06:25 <GodTodd> i don't want basic
06:25 <GodTodd> i want a good one
06:25 <Lucifer> get the cabinet kind, if you're wanting good
06:25 <Lucifer> make it a wood smoker, not gas, not electric
06:26 <Lucifer> gas and electric have their places and can be very nice, but start with just plain wood
06:26 <Lucifer> most of the wood smokers have attachments available to fit them for gas later on
06:26 <Lucifer> the tube kind is good, and pretty cheap, where you have a firebox on the side, and then a long tube for the meat, and a little chimney
06:26 <Lucifer> generally you can fit 3 turkeys side by side in them
06:27 <Lucifer> the cabinet kind are hard to do turkeys, but you can generally stack brisket like there's no tomorrow
06:27 <Lucifer> so you sacrifice 1-2 turkeys that you could do in the tube kind for the sake of stacking brisket
06:27 <Lucifer> but the stacking gives you other choices
06:27 <Lucifer> my wife's uncle puts pork ribs on top and brisket on the bottom, and lets the juices that runoff from the ribs hit the brisket
06:28 <Lucifer> you can also put the meat closer to the fire, and then distribute various veggies throughout the rest of the smoker
06:28 <Lucifer> so my next smoker will probably be a cabinet kind
06:28 <GodTodd> cool :)
06:28 <GodTodd> i don't see that i'll ever need to do 3 turkeys at once
06:29 <Lucifer> man, I used to think that
06:29 <Lucifer> seriously
06:30 <Lucifer> but when the turkeys go on sale for thanksgiving, you want to buy enough to meet your capacity for cooking them :)
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06:30 <GodTodd> i have a chest freezer :)
06:30 <GodTodd> i can buy them up the butt and cook them one at a time
06:30 <Lucifer> we used to keep ourselves well stocked with smoked turkey from thanksgiving sales, and we'd have smoked turkey in the fridge/freezer from then until about April
06:30 <Lucifer> so we'd have to buy turkeys at regular price in the summer
06:31 <Lucifer> ah, we don't have a chest freezer
06:31 <Lucifer> want one, though
06:31 <GodTodd> ours was a wedding gift
06:31 <GodTodd> i love it
06:31 <Lucifer> we would've had to sacrifice our couch to keep the one we had in seattle
06:31 <Lucifer> couch > chest freezer
06:31 <GodTodd> dunno...that's a close call for me ;)
06:32 <Lucifer> not for me and my 3 kids :)
06:32 <Lucifer> don't get me wrong, I still want the chest freezer :)
06:32 <GodTodd> course i'm spoiled....we have too much couch here :/
06:32 <Lucifer> we'd fill that fucker up in no time
06:32 <GodTodd> we did
06:32 <GodTodd> i need to reorganize it soon
06:32 <Lucifer> green chiles, mostly, is what we'd put in there
06:32 <GodTodd> figure out what all i got in there
06:32 <Lucifer> and turkeys from the thanksgiving sales :)
06:33 <Lucifer> brisket from 4th of july sales...
06:33 <GodTodd> yeah...that's where my briskets came from
06:33 <Lucifer> every now and then you get a helluva deal on various unusual cuts of meat that's worth snatching
06:33 <GodTodd> when they were like 79 cents a pound
06:33 <Lucifer> man, one year HEB did a 4th of july sale that was 10 cents a pound for brisket
06:33 <Lucifer> limit 2
06:33 <Lucifer> I went back 5 times :)
06:33 <GodTodd> i hate limits
06:34 <GodTodd> makes me run back a dozen times
06:34 <GodTodd> heh
06:34 <Lucifer> you had to do a $10 purchase with it, too
06:34 <GodTodd> that's easy to do
06:34 <Lucifer> so I broke up the grocery list into $10 purchases and went back until I was spent :)
06:34 <GodTodd> divide up the normal list in 10 dollar increments
06:34 <GodTodd> :)
06:35 <Lucifer> in seattle the turkeys for thanksgiving would reach 20 cents a pound
06:35 <GodTodd> we must have learned frugality in the same school
06:35 <Lucifer> haven't seen that here
06:35 <GodTodd> hard knocks ;)
06:35 <Lucifer> yep :)
06:35 <GodTodd> ever since my homeless days i've been frugal up the ass
06:36 <Lucifer> that brisket sale came when I only had like $80 and had to feed my family for a month
06:36 <Lucifer> only one kid then
06:36  * GodTodd says that while waiting on his robot butler to be delivered :/
06:36 <Lucifer> we ate brisket every day for like 3 months with what I bought for that $80
06:36 <Lucifer> heh
06:36 <Lucifer> so you bought a roomba, then?
06:36 <GodTodd> yeah
06:36 <GodTodd> the pet hair one
06:37 <GodTodd> yeah...in those days we (me and my ex) ate a lot of hot dogs and what we affectionately called "tuna shit"
06:37 <GodTodd> me, my ex and oldest kid, actually
06:37 <Lucifer> heh
06:37 <Lucifer> my wife was pissed that I spent all that money on brisket, even
06:38 <Lucifer> then she was amazed that i was able to cook for a whole month with only that, and we didn't eat the same shit every day
06:38 <GodTodd> 80 bucks in a month...that was about my grocery budget i think back then
06:38 <Lucifer> made bread from scratch, pot pies, all sorts of shit, just with odds and ends in the fridge/freezer
06:38 <Lucifer> we can't survive on that anymore, not $80/month
06:38 <Lucifer> but my wife comes in near $160/month most of the time
06:39 <Lucifer> family of five, she's amazing
06:39 <GodTodd> we were living in a hotel and paid like $500 a month in rent
06:39 <Lucifer> and we eat good, too (except tonight)
06:39 <GodTodd> i buy a lot of the staples in bulk
06:39 <Lucifer> yep
06:39 <GodTodd> we have a free sam's membership
06:39 <Lucifer> rice, flour, and sugar
06:39 <GodTodd> we have costco too
06:39 <Lucifer> ah, we'e got costco
06:40 <GodTodd> so, what one doesn't sell i get at the other
06:40 <GodTodd> :)
06:40 <Lucifer> we found costco's cheaper than sam's, and has more bulk stuff that's useful
06:40 <GodTodd> our dog food is at sam's
06:40 <Lucifer> also, sam's, here at least, isn't cheaper than HEB or Central market
06:40 <GodTodd> and with 2 60 lb dogs, that's a selling point
06:40 <Lucifer> I can see that
06:40 <Lucifer> no pets here
06:41 <Lucifer> we bought that kick ass grill from sam's, though
06:41  * Lucifer is still kicking himself over it
06:41 <GodTodd> we could literally keep our doors unlocked and not worry
06:41 <GodTodd> our dogs are only friendly if they know you
06:42 <GodTodd> our freezer was 300 at sam's
06:42 <Lucifer> we don't need a huge freezer, we just need a different shape
06:42 <GodTodd> ours is like 14 cuft i think
06:42 <Lucifer> we have a vertically-split fridge
06:42 <GodTodd> not big
06:42 <GodTodd> but big enough for now
06:42 <GodTodd> till i have teen boys :/
06:43 <Lucifer> the one we had up in seattle was huge, but i was using it for restaurant storage
06:43 <Lucifer> man, I can't decide what to cook
06:43 <GodTodd> heh...my oldest is one inch from being the height i was freshman year of HS
06:44 <Lucifer> my wife carefully saved all the bacon grease, so I can make a good gravy out of it
06:44 <Lucifer> haha
06:44 <Lucifer> so he's pushing to overgrow you pretty soon, eh?
06:44 <GodTodd> yeah
06:44 <GodTodd> well, you figure, my father is 6'3", i have a brother that's 5'11" and a sister that's 6'
06:45 <GodTodd> my youngest is gonna be a tall fucker tho
06:45 <GodTodd> add all that to karen's dad being "the short one"
06:45 <GodTodd> he's 6'2"
06:45 <Lucifer> I don't know how my boys are going to turn out, but my daughter's set for being an amazon goddess
06:46 <Lucifer> there isn't a small boob anywhere in her blood line, and she's already nearing my wife's height, and my wife ain't short!
06:46 <GodTodd> my youngest is just short of 3'
06:46 <GodTodd> i think he's 33 in
06:46 <GodTodd> heh
06:46 <Lucifer> I measure my kids by how low I have to go to hug them
06:46 <Lucifer> my dauhter's too tall for a squat, and too short for a standing tall hug
06:47 <GodTodd> i don't have to go too low to hug my oldest
06:47 <GodTodd> i'm like 14 inches taller than him :/
06:47 <Lucifer> only my youngest is squat hugggins size right now
06:47 <Lucifer> middle kid is too tall for that
06:47 <Lucifer> I wind up picking him up for hugs, but my daughter's too heavy for much of that
06:48 <GodTodd> your youngest is what, around 3?
06:48 <Lucifer> 4
06:48 <GodTodd> ah
06:48 <GodTodd> yeah
06:48 <Lucifer> man, my daughter's going to be nine in a couple of months
06:48 <GodTodd> fuck that...my oldest is almost 9 and a half
06:48 <Lucifer> old fart
06:49 <GodTodd> bah...i was young when he was born
06:49 <GodTodd> i was like 9
06:49 <GodTodd> :)
06:49 <Lucifer> heh
06:50 <GodTodd> fuck...i have an ex that turned 36 today
06:50 <GodTodd> i *am* old
06:50 <Lucifer> all my exes are younger than me
06:50 <Lucifer> but I only have one
06:50 <Lucifer> I'm just a baby
06:50 <Lucifer> hell, my wife's younger than me
06:51 <GodTodd> much :P
06:52 <Lucifer> yeah, she's going to be 13 this year
06:58 <Lucifer> ok, I think I'm going to do a little rice, some eggs with ham in them, and a gravy
06:58 <Lucifer> that means I need to turn off the oven that I just turned on
06:58 <GodTodd> heh
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10:32 <evaldusia> durka got owned
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14:43 <luke-jr> #echo [23:03:45] <Rapha> luke-jr: Can you ask Lucifer why he ban me from #luke-jrisanasshat?
14:43 <armabot> [23:03:45] <Rapha> luke-jr: Can you ask Lucifer why he ban me from #luke-jrisanasshat?
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17:46 <spidey> wow
17:46 <spidey> that was a total 30 minutes lost of my life
17:51 <mkzelda> were u talking to luke?
17:52 <spidey> reading about windows 2.0...
17:52 <spidey> then windows 2.1, then 3.0 , then 3.1
17:52 <spidey> then wikipedia jumped over to OS/2, so i read about that all the way to windows os/2 3.0
17:52 <spidey> -.-
17:54 <luke-jr> …
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19:06 <philippeqc> Hello
19:14 <wrtlprnft> hi!
19:19 <philippeqc> I'm attacking Ruby!
19:19 <philippeqc> trying to get the hang of it
19:19 <philippeqc> seeing if it can be used to fix the zone problem
19:22 <philippeqc> and how are you
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19:40 <epsy> i just seen this n a mail from a maillist on SF
19:40 <epsy> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
19:40 <epsy> >Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005.
19:40 <epsy> >http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
19:49 <luke-jr> nothing new
19:50 <luke-jr> philippeqc: the zone problem?
19:51 <spidey> luke-jr: kate broke =/
19:51 <spidey> fish:// doesn't work nomore :(
19:55 <philippeqc> luke-jr: yes, that the zones sync flod the network
19:55 <philippeqc> and that it cant work toward older version
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20:14 <luke-jr> philippeqc: wtf?
20:16 <philippeqc> zone v2 only works a) with itself and b) if no more than 2 monitor are used
20:16 <philippeqc> in subversion head
20:20 <luke-jr> why does it care how many monitors?
20:20 <luke-jr> and s/head/trunk
20:21 <philippeqc> start ethereal and you could tell me
20:21 <luke-jr> what do monitors have to do with network?
20:22 <philippeqc> zone v2 monitor are network synchronized.
20:22 <philippeqc> they are the item that drive the logic
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20:26 <luke-jr> wtf?
20:26 <luke-jr> monitor = what I look at
20:28 <epsy> monitors are something that can check for ...err ... something, in zv2 :P
20:49 <spidey> u
20:50 <flex> gay
20:53 <philippeqc> yes flex, I'm happy just as you!
20:55 <philippeqc> luke-jr: I hoped you would know this one, but it seems you dont: RTFM! http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2
20:55 <spidey> haha
20:57 <spidey> configure: error: You need the library xml2 to compile Armagetron. Read the file doc/install_linux.html.
20:57 <spidey> lame
20:57 <spidey> it's already installed!
20:57 <spidey> i   libxml2                                               - GNOME XML library
20:58 <philippeqc> can you run the config command?
20:58 <spidey> ./configure?
20:59 <philippeqc> well, for starter yes
20:59 <spidey> ...that's what gave me the error
20:59 <philippeqc> and then check the Makefile(s), a special command is used to generate the compilers flags for libxml2
20:59 <philippeqc> maybe it cant find that
21:00 <spidey> it's 0.3.0 from the beta.aa.net
21:00 <spidey> the src*
21:02 <philippeqc> what does "xml2-config" return ?
21:03 <spidey> right
21:03 <spidey> wrong package
21:03  * spidey notes he forgot to install the -dev package
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21:04  * philippeqc point spidey to his 3'rd message concerning his libxml problem ;)
21:05 <spidey> how many new libraries do you need to compile 0.3.0 now? o.o
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21:11 <spidey> luke-jr: civ???
21:12 <spidey> luke-jr: who's the nubs on your civ server? :P
21:13 <GodTodd> spidey: shhhh that's luke-jr
21:13 <GodTodd> :D
21:14 <spidey> haha
21:16 <spidey> dude
21:16 <spidey> i just took over
21:16 <spidey> the most awesome AI built civ i've ever seen
21:29 <spidey> holy shit
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21:46 <spidey> this is like historic australia taking control of modern USA
21:46 <spidey> :S
21:46 <spidey> i've never seen a civ this nice before
21:46 <spidey> it's possibly better than luci's and mine combined :S
21:47 <spidey> 544gold/turn
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21:47 <spidey> 1863 science/turn
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22:39 <spidey> luke-jr: ping?
22:39 <ghableska> #tea
22:39 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): ._/-\H|O_, <-Eagle->, åppåqitiøn, CtxOwned, epsy|T|, F@]Mary, freako, pavelo, SpinAce, u7.10gg, ~T~GluGGsel, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥flex, ¼´¾Hun
22:39 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:39 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 65.5°F (3:38 PM CDT on October 12, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Falling).
22:42 <MaZuffeR> #weather turku
22:42 <armabot> MaZuffeR: The current temperature in Turku, Finland is 33.8°F (11:20 PM EEST on October 12, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
22:42 <ghableska> brrr
22:42 <MaZuffeR> yeah, it's a bit cold for october
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22:46 <spidey> #weather 38256
22:46 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in 5 mi NE of, Paris, Tennessee is 69.8°F (3:48 PM CDT on October 12, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
22:46 <spidey> bit cold?
22:46 <spidey> that's like mid winter weather -.-
22:46 <ghableska> o_O
22:47 <spidey> man
22:47 <G5_Ger> #tea
22:47 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): ._/-\H|O_, <-Eagle->, åopåritiøm, CtxOwned, epsy|T|, F@]Mary, freako, pavelo, SpinAce, u7.10gg, ~T~GluGGsel, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥flex
22:47 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:47 <spidey> luke-jr: these guys on your server bore me
22:47 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 81.7°F (3:49 PM CDT on October 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.21 in 989.1 hPa (Falling).
22:48 <spidey> i've got 13.5k gold, all techs, and am making 1.3k gold/turn with 200 total cost
22:48 <GodTodd> start nuking :D
22:49 <spidey> heh
22:49 <spidey> i should
22:49 <spidey> i could buy 10 nukes out right
22:49 <GodTodd> see how they handle nuclear winter :)
22:49 <spidey> my cities?
22:49 <GodTodd> the other players
22:49 <spidey> pretty well since all my cities are mainly working forest
22:49 <spidey> i own half the map
22:49 <spidey> lol
22:50 <GodTodd> so nuke the other half :P
22:50 <GodTodd> shit or get off the pot ;)
22:51 <spidey> but i'm not done reading the news papper :(
22:51 <GodTodd> i've never read a news papper...they good?
22:51 <spidey> tells of all the local bullshit that stinks worse than the shit i'm taking now :P
22:52 <GodTodd> heh...i find it mildly amusing to see people that talk like luke-jr that think he needs to find salvation
22:55 <GodTodd> shows how fallible religions can be when so many sects that purport to follow the letter of the same book have such far-ranging and heated differences
22:55 <GodTodd> :)
22:59 <spidey> i talk like luke-jr${noob}?
22:59 <GodTodd> no...in #jesus
22:59 <spidey> or was you talking about someone else?
22:59 <spidey> oooo
22:59 <spidey> yea, that's pretty funny
23:00 <spidey> they're all like
23:00 <spidey> "i'ma pray for you look!"
23:00 <spidey> s/look/luke
23:00 <GodTodd> heh...that and the evolution stance
23:00 <GodTodd> [2007-10-12 15:34] <TwinReverb> discovery channel is constantly brainwashing people into the "millions" and "billions" of years
23:01 <GodTodd> tell me that couldn't say <luke-jr>
23:01 <GodTodd> heh
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23:02 <spidey> rofl
23:04 <luke-jr> it's true
23:04 <spidey> pft
23:05 <ct|kyle> what luke-jr that your a n00b?
23:05 <spidey> dispite the scientific proof, you fools still believe the world's only been around 10k years, because some drunk claiming to be a profet said so?
23:05 <spidey> s/profet/prophet
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23:07 <@luke-jr> ct|kyle: what?
23:07 <@luke-jr> spidey: all the scientific proof supports ~6000 years
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23:19 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i thought you were saying it is true that you are a n00b
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23:39 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: liar
23:39 <ct|kyle> no
23:42  * GodTodd challenges luke-jr to provide a list of all the historical figures that have lived and show with that, and *true* data that there is a way all of those people could have lived in 6000 years
23:49 <GodTodd> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
23:52 <philippeqc> he luke-jr, sorry for jumping on you previously about the monitor thing, you couldn't have know.
23:56 <philippeqc> good night all!
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