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Log from 2007-09-19:
--- Day changed Wed Sep 19 2007
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's a light cycle game
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> light cycle games are a genre all their own at this point
00:14  * noob7 chuckles
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> anybody play Wet Paint back in the day?
00:14 <noob7> back in what day?
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> 80s
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> it was a c-64 game
00:14 <noob7> not that I remember so
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> probably available on Apple comps too
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> you were a paint brush, and you had to paint the whole wall, but you couldn't paint over anything you'd already painted
00:15 <noob7> neat concept
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> wasted many hours on that very simple game :)
00:16 <noob7> oh hey, I am supposed to remind you about making the AFL cfg available
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> later on tonight, when I get home from work
00:17 <noob7> :p
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> ~10pm CDT
00:17 <noob7> can you maybe #m me the link to it then?
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> I just need to doublecheck that it has the recommendations made by the summer players
00:17 <noob7> ok
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> I could, but if you read the forums, you'll find it
00:18 <noob7> ok
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to get a jump on it, you could dig up the original config and go to the discussion thread and just make those changes directly
00:19 <noob7> I'm about to go to bed actually
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> sleeping is for sissies
00:19 <noob7> epsy asked me to host the Donkey server for him
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  for his AFL team?
00:19 <noob7> that'S why I'd need the cfg for
00:19 <noob7> yeah
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00:20 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  I'm also thinking it should be an "official" recommendation that players use ed's fortress moviepack
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> we can't force them to, of course
00:22 <Flex_> Can I have a link to that please?
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191840
00:29 <noob7> god I hate sbnc... why do I have to create seperate users for each server I want to connect to?
00:29 <luke-jr> wtf is that
00:30 <noob7> shroudBNC
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I don't have kolourpaint installed
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00:41 <luke-jr> noob7: kinda inherent in how a BNC works
00:49 <noob7> !t eng ger inherent
00:49 <noob7> #t eng ger inherent
00:49 <armabot> noob7: zugehörig
00:50 <noob7> well other BNCs are able to tunnel to more than one server right? maybe I am just making stuff up tho :D
00:59 <Gursikh> Hey guys, is it a known issue that armagetron sometimes randomly minimizes itself?
00:59 <noob7> if you press the "f" key :D
00:59 <Gursikh> no, no go from full screen to windowed, I mean fully minimized (to tray)
01:00 <Gursikh>  snot*
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's a known issue that when this happens, it's usually some external thing that armagetron gets blamed for
01:00 <Gursikh> grr, NOT*
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> not that I'm trying to deny a problem, just that in every case so far where this "bug" has been reported, it's always turned out to be something in the player's environment
01:01 <noob7> like a MSN or AIM message
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> most common is as noob7 says, people accidentally pressing the full-screen key
01:01 <Gursikh> I've experienced it on 2 different computers so far
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> there's another one, some IM programs cause you to jump to the desktop so you can see their window
01:01 <Gursikh> both ubuntu 7.04 linux
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> alt-tab could do it it, and you can hit that combination if you've actually bound alt to something
01:02 <Gursikh> the desktop ubuntu was running nothing else at all
01:02 <Gursikh> default everything
01:02 <Gursikh> except screen resolution
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> gnome?
01:02 <Gursikh> yes gnome
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> get a better DE :)
01:03 <Gursikh> on my tablet it's done it under xfce as well
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> both gtk-based environments
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> meaning the problem is probably somewhere in gtk
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> we've had several people report problems under gnome
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but since we've never been able to replicate these problems, what can we do?
01:04 <Gursikh> I see, one of those :-(
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> if it makes you feel any better, I"m running the same version of ubuntu, except it's called "Kubuntu" on my machine :)
01:04 <Gursikh> I'll start saving logs, maybe something will come up
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> ko
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> recordings might help, but I doubt the information we actually want is in there
01:04 <Gursikh> I've run kde in the past, eventually came back to gnome and now beryl
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> eek.  lots of problems in beryl
01:05 <Gursikh> yeah, opengl fails with beryl
01:05 <Gursikh> I dont play under beryl >_>
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, good :)
01:06 <Gursikh> usually play under xfce
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> see if there's a pattern
01:06 <Gursikh> haven't really noticed one, but I'll pay more attention
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have problems back in the day with the screensaver kicking in
01:07 <Gursikh> I'll also ask my friend who plays under wmii
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, there's a number of old posts ont he forums about others having *that* problem
01:07 <Gursikh> I dont use any screensaver
01:07 <Gursikh> on my tablet, it's ether on and working, or closed and suspended
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, let's say the route to disable the screensaver they took was to force an X11 event on the desktop that focuses it
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> *that* would create the problem you see, and wouldn't exist in KDE
01:08 <Gursikh> ah
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> get scorched3d and see how that does
01:08 <Gursikh> I could play under kde and see if the problem reappears
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> the easiest way to determine if it's arma's fault is to see if other gl games have the same problem
01:09 <Gursikh> well, tremulous doesn't
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if they don't have the same problem, that doesn't really prove anything, but it's fun to find out :)
01:09 <Gursikh> and glob2 doesn't either
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> glob2 doesn't use gl by default...
01:09 <Gursikh> I set it to
01:10  * Lucifer_arma hasn't noticed a difference in glob2's performance or appearance with gl enabled and isn't convinced it's actually working with gl
01:10 <Gursikh> me niether
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, try under kde and see if it happens
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> assuming you have kde already
01:10 <Gursikh> uses like 3% less ram, is the only reason I do
01:10 <Gursikh> i do
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> you might make sure to update all libraries and stuff with synaptic
01:11 <Gursikh> i'm up-to-date
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, first try it in kde and see if it happens
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> if so, try to get the exact state of the machine when you did
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> then I'll update and ive it a shot
01:11 <Gursikh> right-o
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, i don't currently have 3d acceleration
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe next week, after the load of tests, I'll have a chance to get some 3d acceleration going :)
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01:14 <noob7> whoah the #mediadefender-defenders on EFnet is going crazy, I can't even read as fast as the # gets spammed up
01:16 <noob7> wasnt I about to go to bed like an hour ago?
01:17 <noob7> meh
01:20 <tramshed> they are bein spammod?
01:20 <tramshed> haha
01:20 <tramshed> I bet its l0de
01:21 <noob7> no, no spam... just lots of digg users joining in and talking about the same stuff over and over again
01:21 <noob7> i.e. "spam"
01:23 <tramshed> aw
01:23 <noob7> got your hopes up?
01:27 <tramshed> haah yeah
01:27 <tramshed> I love a good spamming
01:27 <tramshed> what can I say
01:27 <tramshed> comin round the block leavin you in chalk, I love musket balls in my flint lock glock
01:29 <noob7> cap'n dan?
01:29 <noob7> ;)
01:30 <tramshed> hell yeah
01:30 <tramshed> pirate rap owns
01:30 <tramshed> how do you know about pirate raps
01:30 <tramshed> I just learned about it from unixpunx
01:30 <noob7> I've been listening to the new album all day yesterday
01:30 <noob7> stairs?
01:30 <tramshed> man, I need to get this shit
01:30 <tramshed> ive been jammin thier myspace page
01:30 <noob7> wait a sec
01:31 <noob7> http://alluvion.org/download.php?info_hash=1e52ef0e849f3c847b97d65bfcb0bcff35b15a41
01:31 <noob7> official torrent
01:32 <tramshed> score.
01:32 <noob7> there's a direct download as well, but torrent will be faster I suppose
01:32 <noob7> here'S the thread on SA: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2627599
01:33 <tramshed> yeah, im pullin 280kbps
01:33 <noob7> ;)
01:41 <noob7> tramshed, done?
01:41 <tramshed> indeed
01:41 <tramshed> need to extract it  now
01:42 <tramshed> what the hell is this macosx dir, hehe
01:42 <noob7> just ignore it
01:42 <noob7> I guess the rar was packed on a mac
01:43 <tramshed> woot
01:43 <tramshed> [Captain Dan & The Scurvy Crew - Rimes of the Hip Hop Mariners - Hook It Up] [0:05/3:23]
01:44 <noob7> :D
01:44 <noob7> lean back, pour some rum and enjoy
02:15 <tramshed> ineded
02:16 <tramshed> [Captain Dan & The Scurvy Crew - Rimes of the Hip Hop Mariners - Sea Rovin'] [2:54/3:56]
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03:05 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: just happened under kde
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04:01 <Vanhayes_> #weather saint john
04:01 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Fog patches overnight. Low 4C(39F) with risk of frost.; Wednesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 24C(75F) except 18C(64F) along the fundy coast. (1 more message)
04:01 <Vanhayes_> #weather sylvan lake
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:02 <Vanhayes_> #weather red deer
04:02 <armabot> Vanhayes_: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 46.4°F (7:00 PM MDT on September 18, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
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04:25 <Stewie-arma> spidey: ping
04:25 <spidey> ?
04:25 <Stewie-arma> hacker in tremx server
04:25 <Stewie-arma> TJ
04:25 <Stewie-arma> went from S1 to S3 with one kill
04:26 <Stewie-arma> he's been baned for 30 minutes but I couldn't permaban him
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> bane him!  bane him!
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: kicking?
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> (probably not, he's probably asleep)
05:08 <tramshed> !math 1142/24
05:08 <tramshed> !calc 1142/24
05:08 <tramshed> dammit, what was it
05:08 <tramshed> #calc 1142/24
05:08 <armabot> tramshed: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
05:08 <tramshed> #math 1142/24
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 1142/24
05:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 47.5833333333
05:09 <tramshed> hah
05:09  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it's even useful anymore to have the google plugin loaded
05:09 <tramshed> hah, I dont have to hear the same song twices for 47 and a half days
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> you don't listen to radio much, do you?
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> (where you'd hear the same song 47 and a half times a day)
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05:11 <tramshed> hah
05:11 <tramshed> yeah, radio sucks
05:20 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: minimized twice under kde, nothing in log or recording
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05:36 <Durka> z-man-work: ping
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I pinged him earlier already :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I think this will work, but I'm going to hurry up and post it and ask folks to test it before we make it the official settings for the fall season
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I've already made the other chanes, I'm just reorganizing a little bit to make it easier to setup, and writing a readme file to tell
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> people how to do it
06:00 <Durka> I don't think it will work ^^
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06:06 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191902#191902  <--- AFL settings alpha, please test since you're in such a hurry :)
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06:54 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 22
06:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
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07:03 <Gursikh> Lucifer_arma: 4 times in kde so far
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> er, you're supposed to be trying to find a pattern, not just counting
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I just tried to get the nvidia driver installed again and failed :(
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> it won't pop out of 1024x768, which looks funky on my monitor
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07:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey:
07:26 <spidey> you trying to use the kde thing for resolution?
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I tried that, and I tried hacking my xorg.conf file directly to force it to just one resolution
07:26 <spidey> run this in commandline > nvidia-settings
07:26 <spidey> try selecting a different res
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found
07:27 <spidey> don't sudo
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> I have to use the nvidia-glx-legacy driver
07:28 <spidey> nvidia-settings is for configuring nvidia drivers
07:28 <spidey> :P
07:28 <spidey> and why legacy? your card that old? o.o
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> apparently it is
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
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07:33 <spidey> that was fast
07:33 <spidey> lol
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07:46  * GodTodd wishes ati would get some real drivers :/
07:47 <luke-jr> GodTodd: what card?
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07:47 <GodTodd> radeon xpress 200m
07:47 <luke-jr> what is the equivalent discrete card?
07:47 <GodTodd> ?
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07:48 <luke-jr> Xpress is embedded
07:48 <luke-jr> and the #s are different from the equivalent discrete cards
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07:48 <luke-jr> and I'm too lazy to look it up :p
07:48 <GodTodd> sec
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07:49  * luke-jr pokes Lucifer_arma
07:50 <luke-jr> spidey: ...
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07:52 <spidey> luke-jr, ?
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07:53 <luke-jr> spidey: your domain expired...
07:54 <GodTodd> bah...i'm too tired to do effective searching :/
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07:56 <spidey> luke-jr, k
07:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd: RV370
07:57 <luke-jr> spidey: ... you want it? O.o
07:57 <luke-jr> GodTodd: equivalent to
07:57 <luke-jr> Radeon X300
07:57 <luke-jr> Radeon X1050
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07:58 <luke-jr> There is experimental 3D for Xpress 200M Northbridge integrated gpus (june 2007).
07:59 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:59 <GodTodd> might be worth a try
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08:01 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that's probably Xorg 7.2 or such
08:01 <luke-jr> fairly recent, anyhow
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08:02 <luke-jr> someone figure out wtf is up with Lucifer_arma
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08:08 <GodTodd> luke-jr: i have xorg 7.2.0
08:12 <spidey> luke
08:12 <spidey> resign in jabber
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08:21 <luke-jr> spidey:
08:21 <luke-jr> why
08:21 <spidey> because it shows you offline? :p
08:21 <luke-jr> spidey: maybe because you're offline
08:21 <spidey> am not
08:21 <luke-jr> are too if your IM domain is expired, I bet
08:22 <luke-jr> "oops"?
08:22 <spidey> i'm looking at people on jabber right now
08:22 <luke-jr> lol
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08:22 <luke-jr> luke-jr@yokochan ~ $ dig SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.fallin-angels.net +short
08:22 <luke-jr> luke-jr@yokochan ~ $
08:23 <luke-jr> if you're able to IM anyone with it, that won't last very long
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08:40 <Lucifer_arma> I give up
08:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: ?
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09:42 <Lucifer_arma> yay, now I'm running without an xorg.conf
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> too bad it didn't load the nvidia driver, but otherwise worked fine
09:43 <luke-jr> ...
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09:48 <tramshed> im willing to bet there is a xorg.conf somewhere
09:48 <luke-jr> tramshed: bad idea
09:48 <tramshed> hah
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09:49 <tramshed> how the fucks it gonna run without one
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09:51 <luke-jr> tramshed: the same way it makes one automatically with the -configure flag
09:51 <tramshed> he must have the most generic hardware on the planet
09:51 <luke-jr> single-head isn't that rare
09:51 <luke-jr> and really, dual-head is the only thing I've seen X have problems autodetecting
09:52 <tramshed> course, ive never actually tried, so im just talking shit
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09:52 <tramshed> I know it wont autodetect my setup right
09:52 <luke-jr> why?
09:52 <tramshed> dualhead + 1 vid card
09:52 <tramshed> various monitors
09:52 <tramshed> various resolutions
09:52 <luke-jr> well, obviously it can't detect user preference :)
09:52 <tramshed> some crt, some flatpanel, some widescreen, some not
09:53 <luke-jr> I'll bet you would get *some* display out of it tho
09:53 <tramshed> it *might* get one monitor
09:53 <tramshed> but I dont think it would get the other two
09:53  * luke-jr notes most modern monitors report their capabilities to X
09:53 <tramshed> or the second vid card
09:53 <luke-jr> I think it would detect them at least
09:53 <tramshed> only one of these monitors would be considered modern
09:53 <luke-jr> it would probably make them all isolated X sessions
09:54 <tramshed> and xinerama fucks shit up anyways
09:54 <tramshed> I run them as separate sessions anyways
09:54 <luke-jr> isolated X sessions != Xinerama
09:54 <luke-jr> MergedFB worked half decent ;)
09:54 <tramshed>  I have issues with it not knowing where the fuck to put 3d acceled windows
09:55 <tramshed> thats why I keep them separate
09:55 <luke-jr> why do you care where?
09:55 <luke-jr> move them
09:55 <luke-jr> duh
09:55 <tramshed> its a pain to play a game spread across 3 monitors which all have diff resoultions
09:55 <tramshed> and it doesnt let you move a fullscreen window
09:55 <tramshed> thats why I keep em separate
09:55 <tramshed> so when I full screen it stays on one screen
09:56 <luke-jr> ...
09:56 <luke-jr> arma, at least, supports fullscreen on one of many displays
09:56 <tramshed> arma doesnt stay on one screen here
09:56 <tramshed> not with xinerama at least
09:56 <tramshed> it just plops right down in the middle of them all
09:56 <luke-jr> did you set its fullscreen resolution to only one of them?
09:56 <tramshed> yep
09:56 <tramshed> 1680x1050
09:56 <luke-jr> ...
09:57 <tramshed> and its half on the center screen, half on the left screen
09:57 <luke-jr> oh, I remember now
09:57 <tramshed> the left screen runs 1024x768
09:57 <luke-jr> to do that, it clones the rest
09:57 <luke-jr> err
09:57 <tramshed> middle runs 1680x1050
09:57 <luke-jr> that's messed up
09:57 <tramshed> and the right runs 800x600
09:57 <luke-jr> you have the Xinerama supported by your WM?
09:57 <tramshed> yeah
09:57 <tramshed> xfce4
09:57 <tramshed> none of my games listen to it for fuckall though
09:57 <luke-jr> I must say, xfce4's xinerama support sucks if it has any :p
09:58 <tramshed> well, im not gonna run bloatfest 3000 for it
09:58 <tramshed> ill just use separate screens
09:58 <luke-jr> :p
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09:58 <tramshed> I just added panels to each screen to run the apps on the screen I want
09:59 <tramshed> this way I can run 3 armas at once with hardware accel
09:59 <luke-jr> if your brain could handle it maybe
09:59 <tramshed> hah
09:59 <tramshed> eventually im gonna try to make them totally separate sessions
09:59 <tramshed> so 3 people can use my box at once
10:00 <luke-jr> easy enough
10:00 <tramshed> Ive never tried
10:00 <tramshed> so I dont know how easy it is
10:01 <tramshed> btw, did you want me to set up an ftp on my hoster?
10:01 <luke-jr> no
10:01 <luke-jr> why
10:01 <tramshed> you mentioned it on the forums
10:01 <luke-jr> ?
10:01 <tramshed> about needin more mirrors
10:01 <luke-jr> yeah
10:01 <luke-jr> but ftp sucks
10:01 <tramshed> ftp and http is all they will let me do
10:01 <luke-jr> they suck
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10:01 <luke-jr> lol
10:01 <tramshed> haha
10:01 <tramshed> they do really
10:01 <tramshed> but its free to me
10:01 <luke-jr> fine, I think KDE supports FTP
10:02 <tramshed> my friend payed for like 2 or 3 years of em
10:02 <tramshed> brb
10:02 <luke-jr> ..
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10:05 <tramshed> gback
10:05 <luke-jr> ugh
10:05 <luke-jr> did google buy 'back' now?
10:05 <tramshed> ?
10:05 <tramshed> haha
10:06 <luke-jr> I keep giving people bad advice cuz I'm tired
10:06 <luke-jr> I told spidey to use:
10:06 <luke-jr> while IFS= read line; echo "$line"; done
10:06 <luke-jr> and now I just told some guy in ##linux to use:
10:06 <luke-jr> while IFS= read line; $line; done
10:06 <tramshed> heh
10:06 <luke-jr> cat and sh
10:07 <luke-jr> duh :(
10:07 <tramshed> I have the distinct feelings that isnt going to ever finish
10:07 <luke-jr> ...
10:07 <tramshed> dont mind me if I dont make sense, im wasted at m
10:07 <luke-jr> :(){ :|:& };:
10:07 <tramshed> I need to brush up on my bash, the time I was locked up made me forget it all
10:07 <tramshed> hah
10:07 <luke-jr> guess what that code does
10:07 <luke-jr> :)
10:07 <tramshed> no forkbomb for me.
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10:08 <tramshed> () :|: & ; :
10:08 <tramshed> thats my onjoin on syntehtic geeks, hehe
10:09 <luke-jr> ...
10:09 <luke-jr> invalid?
10:09 <tramshed> might be
10:09 <tramshed> ive never grown the nuts to try it
10:10 <spidey> spidey@hax:~/Desktop$ () :|: & ; :
10:10 <spidey> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
10:11 <tramshed> oh noes
10:11 <tramshed> oh well
10:11 <luke-jr> tramshed: a properly configured system isn't vuln anyway
10:12 <luke-jr> via /etc/security/limits, that is
10:12 <luke-jr> limits.conf*
10:12 <luke-jr> just restrict every user to 500 processes or so
10:12 <tramshed> yeah
10:13 <tramshed> its ancient, I know
10:13 <luke-jr> I'm under 300 processes total on my main box
10:13 <tramshed> im running 247
10:13 <luke-jr> 251
10:13 <spidey> 127 here
10:13 <luke-jr> 2 of those were 'ps' and 'wc' tho
10:14 <luke-jr> and one was the header line
10:14 <luke-jr> so really 248
10:14 <luke-jr> :p
10:14 <tramshed> lol
10:15 <luke-jr> anyone wanna buy ipod speakers?
10:15 <tramshed> windows users are all like, WTF 200 processes!
10:15 <luke-jr> that's cuz their crap is even more bloated
10:15 <luke-jr> Windows, Explorer, FireFox...
10:16 <tramshed> yeah
10:16 <luke-jr> and I've got X apps running remote too
10:16 <luke-jr> well, remote as in on my LAN
10:17 <luke-jr> so if I add those in, I might top 300
10:17 <luke-jr> I love X's network transparency :D
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10:57 <spidey> not really
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14:12 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1024/
14:12 <MrBougo> haha
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15:38 <MrBougo> ITLAPD!
15:38 <MrBougo> International Talk Like A Pirate Day!
15:38 <MrBougo> harr!
15:41 <Gursikh> yarr, me matey. STFU!
15:41 <Gursikh> :-P
15:41 <MrBougo> i cant tak pirate :(
15:41 <MrBougo> talk*
15:41 <Gursikh> You sound like a software pirate to me >_>
15:42 <MrBougo> oh i can talk software pirate
15:42 <MrBougo> but not regular pirate
15:43 <Gursikh> One could argue that software pirate _is_ this century's "normal" pirate
15:54 <mkzelda> happy end-of-probation day
15:55 <mkzelda> i just got a phone call from us probation saying they were closing my case file
15:55 <mkzelda> asking whether or not i wanted my documents shredded
16:01 <noob7> that's great mkzelda
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16:43 <epsy> hmm
16:44 <epsy> i need some help with gimp
16:44 <epsy> when i fill up some surface with a color, it blurs the sides and does a mix with the outher color
16:45 <epsy> i want a clear border
16:59 <epsy> nvm
16:59 <epsy> -> inkscape :p
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17:16 <noob7> epsy, there is a checkbox somehwere to set the blur
17:16 <noob7> I dont remember well enough
17:17 <epsy> yea i just switched to inkscape and done the tab pics
17:17 <epsy> ^^
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18:10 <z-man-work> GAAAA! I knew I shouldn't have clicked on vibe's myspace profile link.
18:11  * z-man-work plugs eyes back into their sockets.
18:12 <z-man-work> Heh, looks like philippe fell into the same trap :)
18:18  * Lucifer_arma doesn't click on myspace links--ever
18:19 <spidey> isn't myspace for emos?
18:20 <luke-jr> and perverts
18:20 <spidey> luke-jr, i 75% of the way got that wrapper working :)
18:23 <luke-jr> Gursikh: nope, because there is no such thing as a "software pirate"
18:24 <luke-jr> spidey: I want candy :(
18:25 <spidey> i want breakfast
18:25 <spidey> cook sausage eggs and biscuits then i'll give you a peppermint
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18:50 <beta_usa> hello
18:57 <epsy> ah
18:57 <epsy> :P
18:57 <beta_usa> hey :p
18:57 <epsy> salut :p
18:58 <beta_usa> :)
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20:18 <MrBougo> #ping
20:18 <armabot> pong
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20:33 <spidey> http://www.wellho.co.uk/slideshow/plx8.jpg
20:33 <spidey> lol
20:43 <luke-jr> spidey: wrong!
20:43 <spidey> lol
20:44 <luke-jr> fork does not return true
20:55 <Vanhayes> thats because its a spoon
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, I didn't get it
21:32 <spidey> lol
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> lli
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21:55 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Fog patches along the fundy coast overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 9C(48F).; Thursday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Fog (1 more message)
21:55 <mixnetwork> hi all
21:55 <Vanhayes> #weather red deer
21:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Red Deer, Alberta is 44.6°F (1:00 PM MDT on September 19, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
22:19 <beta_usa> Does anyone know why CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH is always reset at the beginning of a game ? I set it to 50 in settings_custom.cfg and in everytime.cfg, but each round, the game switches to 50 and then back again to 200.
22:24 <beta_usa> It's a ctf server (in case that matters)
22:24 <luke-jr> #echo what was that program used to edit TTF fonts?
22:24 <armabot> what was that program used to edit TTF fonts?
22:25 <luke-jr> #armaconfig LENGTH
22:25 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || SP_WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1)
22:25 <luke-jr> beta_usa: try WALLS_LENGTH
22:25 <beta_usa> Ok i'll try
22:26 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft:
22:30 <beta_usa> It still tells me CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH changes from 200 to 50 and then CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH changes from 50 to 200.
22:31 <beta_usa> #armaconfig WALLS
22:31 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || CYCLE_WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: cycle_walls_stay_up_delay_help (default: 2) || PREDICT_WALLS: predict_walls_help (default: 1) || SP_WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || SP_WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: Number of seconds the walls stay up after a player died; negative (1 more message)
22:31 <beta_usa> #more
22:31 <armabot> beta_usa: values will keep them up forever. (default: 2) || WALLS_LENGTH: Length of the cycle walls in meters; negative values will make the walls infinite. (default: -1) || WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: Number of seconds the walls stay up after a player died; negative values will keep them up forever. (default: 2)
22:32 <beta_usa> :/
22:35 <beta_usa> If i set CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH to 50 with the /admin command, it works. The wall is shorter. If I do the same think with /admin WALLS_LENGTH it doesn't change anything.
22:35 <beta_usa> #armaconfig BRAKE
22:35 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_BRAKE: Brake intensity (default: 30) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE: Rate at which the brake reservoir depletes when you are braking (default: 1) || CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_DEPLETE differs from its default? (default: 3) || CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL: Rate at which the brake reservoir refills when you are not braking (default: 0.1) || (1 more message)
22:35 <beta_usa> #more
22:35 <armabot> beta_usa: CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_BRAKE_REFILL differs from its default? (default: 3) || KEYBOARD 118 PLAYER_BIND CYCLE_BRAKE 1 :
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