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Log from 2007-09-17:
--- Day changed Mon Sep 17 2007
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka I went in my bedroom and passed out for 12 hours
00:02 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:14 -!- tramshed [i=tramshed@2002:45dd:f278:0:0:0:0:5] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
00:44 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
00:45 <spidey> armastart can be used for anything that uses tty in console
00:45 <spidey> i made it work with tremulous :D
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:50 <spidey> i had to change armastart and config.py
00:51 <spidey> like 4 lines in each lol
01:01 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-143-220.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:07 <luke-jr> Khalsa: ...
01:07 <luke-jr> Khalsa: say my name to get my attention
01:07 <luke-jr> like this
01:07 <Khalsa> I did
01:07 <luke-jr> luke-jr: can I have a mirror number?
01:07 <Khalsa> twice
01:08 <Khalsa> oh
01:08 <luke-jr> you're four
01:08 <luke-jr> what IP addresses?
01:08 <Khalsa> well, I would assume you were still reading since you responded like 10 seconds earlier
01:08 <luke-jr> bad assumption
01:08 <luke-jr> :)
01:08 <Khalsa> 70.47.18.78
01:09 <luke-jr> and email?
01:09 <Khalsa> khalsa@mercenariesguild.net
01:09 <ct|kyle> spam mail time
01:09 <ct|kyle> :P
01:09 <Stewie-arma> yeah
01:09 <Stewie-arma> spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spammity spam!
01:09 <luke-jr> http://four.resource.aa.dashjr.org
01:10 <luke-jr> http://four.resource.aa.dashjr.org/resource/
01:10 <Khalsa> do you have the spam spam spam egg, bacon , and spam without the spam?
01:10 <luke-jr> Khalsa: ping me when it's working :)
01:10 <Khalsa> probably be tomorrow
01:10 <Khalsa> busy at work now
01:12 <Stewie-arma> BLECH!
01:12 <Stewie-arma> you mean just eggs and bacon?
01:12 <Stewie-arma> BLECH!
01:12 <Stewie-arma> I'm having the spam spam spam spam spam spam Backed beans spam and spam
01:13 <Stewie-arma> where all out of backed beans!
01:13 <Stewie-arma> can I get spam instead?
01:13 <Khalsa> and i'll have her spam too, I love spam!
01:13 <Khalsa> spam spam spam spam spam spam
01:13 * Khalsa breaks into song and dance
01:14 <Stewie-arma> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5627694446211716271&q=spam&total=12666&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
01:14 <Stewie-arma> with chinese subtitles
01:14 <Khalsa> lol no thanks
01:14 <Khalsa> I saw the show live in NYC and here in houston
01:18 <Stewie-arma> spamalot?
01:19 <ct|kyle> Khalsa: you have been successfully added to my spam bot
01:19 <Stewie-arma> yay for spam bots
01:19 <Stewie-arma> is it okay if I just forward all my spam to you?
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01:21 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: are you here?
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02:27 -!- z-man [n=moos@l23.thp.uni-koeln.de] has joined #armagetron
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02:50 <GodTodd> #luke
02:50 <armabot> blah blah jesus blah blah i'm great or smth blah blah RTFM blah blah stfu baka noob blah blah
02:56 <spidey> vodka+ tea = nasty
03:00 <GodTodd> especially if you sweeten the tea
03:00 <spidey> it's sweat tea
03:00 <spidey> rofl
03:00 <spidey> i figured i'd try it
03:01 <spidey> i've drank 1/4 gallon of vodka -.-
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03:10 <GodTodd> sweat tea is even grosser than sweet tea
03:10 <GodTodd> ;)
03:10 <Stewie-arma> dun dun cha
03:20 <spidey> w/e
03:20 <spidey> DIE
03:20 <spidey> go cut yourself
03:20 <spidey> plzkthnc
03:20 <Stewie-arma> why not just tell him to go die in a fire?
03:25 <tramshed> go die of a necrotic spider bite
03:25 <tramshed> and take my isp with you
03:25 <tramshed> for forcing me to get a new ip
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03:29 * GodTodd goes to cut himself.
03:30 <GodTodd> or to print off a Meet the Press transcript...amounts to the same thing :)
03:32 <Stewie-arma> silly boing boing
03:32 <Stewie-arma> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/11/math-equation-for-a-.html
03:36 <tramshed> brb, my dns propagated
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04:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://technocrat.net/d/2007/9/16/26944
04:13 <Durka> hi Lucifer_arma
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> hi Durka (hi there!)
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I added the link to my post, sorry about last night
04:13 <Durka> <Lucifer_arma> I went in my bedroom and passed out for 12 hours
04:13 <Durka> xD
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sick right now :(
04:13 <Durka> :(
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> from the quality of the sleep, and the shape I was in when I woke up, I suspect I developed and beat off a fever while I was sleeping
04:14 <Durka> :S
04:14 <Durka> everything's running smoothly so far :D
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:15 <Durka> how long should the signups run for?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> couple of weeks :)
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> as long as needed for everybody to have a chance at it, and not longer
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> the long signup period for the summer seemed to have an adverse effect on signups, I thought
04:19 <Durka> yea lol
04:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
04:20 <spidey> will you need the afl server the last couple weeks of the month?
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> this month? probably not
04:20 <Durka> well, the good news is that hoop's on epsy's team, so no hoop team this time :D
04:20 <spidey> good
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> I saw what you said about moving the server
04:20 <spidey> chances are we're moving from the celeron to a dual opteron
04:20 <tramshed> pepperoni ftw.
04:21 <Durka> spidey: could you tell me where the server is located
04:21 <Stewie-arma> I'm pondering whether to sign up for SP team or another team under an alias...
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not expecting anybody to use it this time, but maybe after it's moved people will love it
04:21 <Durka> "Some fancy place" doesn't help :\
04:21 <spidey> current one?
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> texas, isn't it? ;)
04:21 <Durka> :S
04:21 <Durka> tbh, I don't think we really need spidey's server ...
04:21 <spidey> utah
04:21 <Durka> k, ty
04:23 <Durka> we really only need 4 servers
04:23 <Durka> 1. Z-mans
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, theoretically, teams are supposed to provide their own
04:23 <Stewie-arma> 2. FA?
04:23 <Stewie-arma> oh wait that's spideys
04:23 <Durka> 2. CT
04:23 <Durka> 3. Wrtl
04:23 <Durka> 4. :S ???
04:23 <spidey> well
04:23 <spidey> whatever
04:23 <Stewie-arma> 4. FA?
04:24 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:24 <spidey> i don't really care if it gets used, it's there because it was asked to be there
04:24 <spidey> now i'm going back to drinking my vodka
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> thanks for the server, though
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> we do appreciate that there's a good server there for people to use
04:24 <spidey> honestly it's probably not that good atm
04:24 <Stewie-arma> spidey can you pass some this way?
04:24 <spidey> the server's backbone is having problems
04:25 <Durka> no one will play in it anyways
04:25 <spidey> people keep timing out of tremulous/teamspeak
04:25 <Durka> no euro's at least
04:25 <spidey> yea well
04:25 <spidey> fuck the euro's
04:25 <Durka> i see now
04:25 <spidey> as i've always said :)
04:25 <Stewie-arma> trem is the worst, tremx just stop showing up
04:25 <Durka> for the summer season, there were only 3 games a weekend
04:25 <spidey> they expect us to play with a 200 ping
04:25 <Durka> b/c °°ps dropped out
04:25 <spidey> but when there's is over 100 they bitch to no end
04:25 <spidey> so, fuck them :)
04:25 <Durka> :D
04:25 <Stewie-arma> lol I got used to the 230+ ping
04:25 <Durka> spidey, play the afl with me :D
04:25 <Stewie-arma> just sometimes it gets worse than usual
04:26 <spidey> i get 150~
04:26 <spidey> but that's not the point
04:26 <spidey> :P
04:26 <Durka> play in*
04:26 <Vanhayes> #ping
04:26 <armabot> pong
04:26 <spidey> #vangaynus
04:27 <Durka> OMG guys guess what?
04:27 <spidey> #vananl
04:27 <spidey> baha
04:27 <Durka> http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/మొదటి_పేజీ
04:27 <spidey> Durka, what? you're gay? :O
04:27 <Durka> -.-
04:27 <spidey> <3
04:27 <Durka> </3
04:27 <Stewie-arma> btw durka spidey quit tron
04:27 <spidey> <3!
04:27 <Durka> nowai!
04:27 * Durka pokes Vanhayes
04:27 <spidey> yea
04:27 <Stewie-arma> what like 3 months ago?
04:27 <spidey> fuck that game :p
04:28 * Vanhayes didnt feel it
04:28 * Durka kills Vanhayes >:)
04:28 * Stewie-arma pokes Vanhayes' dead body
04:28 <Durka> (with a stick ^^ )
04:28 <Stewie-arma> aa haha aa hahahahaha
04:28 * spidey brings a tommy gun and wipes everyone out
04:28 <spidey> die.
04:28 * Stewie-arma rant rapes spidey
04:28 <Durka> die. (notice the period!!!)
04:29 <Stewie-arma> haha can't dodge the rant rape what now WHAT NOW!?!?!?
04:29 <spidey> atm
04:29 <spidey> i probably couldn't dodge a marauder
04:29 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:29 <Vanhayes> zing?
04:29 <Vanhayes> i dont get it
04:29 <Stewie-arma> what about a basilisk?
04:29 <Stewie-arma> oh wait they latch onto you
04:29 <spidey> if i tried to play tremulous right now i'd end up banning half te server
04:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:30 <Stewie-arma> why?
04:30 <Vanhayes> Durka: when is the first afl fall game?
04:30 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes: TBA
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04:31 <Vanhayes> i live when x-chat crashes
04:31 <Vanhayes> love*
04:31 <Stewie-arma> say wha?
04:31 <Vanhayes> my irc client crashed
04:31 <Stewie-arma> "<Stewie-arma> Vanhayes: TBA"
04:32 <Vanhayes> ya, that was the last message I got
04:32 <Stewie-arma> aww
04:32 <Stewie-arma> that was the last message sent before you left
04:32 <Stewie-arma> and none before you came back
04:32 <Vanhayes> hmm, spidey didnt you say you re installed arma?
04:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah but he didn't say he played it
04:33 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:33 <Durka> Vanhayes: Sunday's at 18:00 GMT work for u?
04:33 <Stewie-arma> Durka: he was asking you when the first one was
04:33 <Vanhayes> uh if the game is in the next two weeks, then maybe
04:33 <spidey> yea i got tron
04:33 <spidey> but
04:33 <Durka> october
04:33 <spidey> yea i got tron why?
04:33 <Vanhayes> no dice, ill be gone by then
04:34 <Durka> :\
04:34 <Vanhayes> spidey: just wondering when the last time you played was
04:34 <spidey> um
04:34 <spidey> 3-4 days ago
04:34 <spidey> Vanhayes, come drink with me :D
04:34 <Durka> #Vanhayes
04:34 <armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:34 <spidey> #dorka
04:35 <spidey> #DORKA
04:35 <spidey> ffs
04:35 <Vanhayes> i got drunk yesturday, sundays are recovery
04:35 <spidey> pft
04:35 <spidey> i drink like twice a year
04:35 <Stewie-arma> #luke-jr
04:35 <Stewie-arma> darn
04:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:35 <spidey> so it happens when it happens :p
04:35 <Stewie-arma> it worked earlier today
04:35 <Durka> #hyphy
04:35 <Vanhayes> i drink twice a weekend
04:35 <spidey> we got 1/2 bottle of vodka xD
04:35 <armabot> Durka: lawlz of hi5 j00 n00bz ace pwnz or of i in life n robs ccz and moneyz $ _ $ of ur of the makez
04:35 <spidey> 1/2 gallon*
04:36 <Stewie-arma> lol that makes no sense
04:36 <Vanhayes> heh, was gonna say a half bottle of vodka can be alot or a little
04:36 <Vanhayes> #g .5 gallons in litres
04:36 <spidey> it doesn't even burn anymore >.>
04:36 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
04:36 <Durka> Stewie-arma: Can code hunter count...srsrly...
04:36 <spidey> tastes like water
04:36 <Stewie-arma> no he can't
04:36 <Stewie-arma> why you ask?
04:37 <spidey> .5 US gallons = 1.8927059 liters
04:37 <spidey> i'm armabot
04:37 <spidey> phear me
04:37 <Stewie-arma> you aren't damn it
04:37 <Stewie-arma> Durka: why do you ask
04:37 <Stewie-arma> ?
04:37 <spidey> Stewie-arma, come let me tk you
04:38 <Durka> http://speederclan.5.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=6013
04:38 <luke-jr> ...
04:38 <spidey> ...
04:38 -!- Vanhayes_ [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034207021.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
04:38 <spidey> luke-jr, go away
04:38 <Durka> About me: Im 21, my birthday is October 31st, 1981. Yes, Halloween boy
04:38 <spidey> noone summoned you
04:38 <spidey> :D
04:38 <Stewie-arma> oh lol
04:38 <luke-jr> spidey:
04:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
04:38 <spidey> luke-jr,
04:38 <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: did
04:38 <Durka> he's 21 and born one before me
04:38 <spidey> lies
04:38 <Durka> yet i'm 3 years older o_O
04:38 <Stewie-arma> lol I didn't notice that
04:38 <luke-jr> Durka: I WANT THAT LINK
04:38 <Vanhayes_> im almost 19
04:38 <Durka> WHICH?!!
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> kid
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> kids
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> all of you
04:39 <luke-jr> [Sun Sep 16 2007] [01:10:39] <Durka> have a look, but don't share the link please
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> just a bunch of damn kids!
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:39 * Durka & Vanhayes have the same b-day :)))
04:39 <Vanhayes_> I need to buy booze one more time illegally, before its too late
04:39 <Durka> luke-jr: http://durkas.info
04:39 <Vanhayes_> my birthday is sept 30
04:39 <Durka> same :P
04:39 <Stewie-arma> Durka: can you get me some guiness?
04:39 <luke-jr> Durka: learn to write CSS
04:39 <Vanhayes_> well, almost happy borthday to you
04:39 <Durka> luke-jr: css FTL
04:39 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, how would i go about making a switch for "armparms"
04:40 <Durka> even though i used it
04:40 <Vanhayes_> guiness is the best foriegn beer
04:40 <spidey> eg i pass say -t (for tremulous) then it'll use tremParms instead of armaParms
04:40 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_: thus why I'm asking him for some
04:40 <Stewie-arma> btw what are some good canadian beers?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> armparms?
04:40 <spidey> armastart
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> eek, I haven't looked at armastart's code in awhile, and I'm sicker than your dog right now
04:41 <Vanhayes_> though since you are american I guess canadian beer is considered foriegn, so that statement cant be true for you :)
04:41 <spidey> xD
04:41 <Stewie-arma> rofl
04:41 <Stewie-arma> yet it still is
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: no, canadian beer is considered weak
04:41 <Vanhayes_> depends on the brand
04:41 <Stewie-arma> lol Durka you like the results of the poll?
04:41 <spidey> vodka > beer
04:41 <Stewie-arma> 1 yes 6 no
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I told my wife that as soon as the ratio of CAD to USD is greater than 1:1, the US would officially classify as third world
04:42 <Vanhayes_> ha
04:42 <Durka> havent looked
04:42 <Durka> xD
04:42 <Vanhayes_> so in the next year or so, if things continue
04:42 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer
04:42 <Stewie-arma> woops
04:42 <Vanhayes_> i think we are at 97 cents
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> could happen next week, US economy is tanking again
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I just have a biased point of view, my wife just being laid off and all, but I think it's tanking
04:43 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: yet still the presidents will try to pull the richest country ever thing
04:43 <Vanhayes_> the canadian economy is doing alright, you just make us look alot better
04:43 <Durka> #Vanhayes
04:43 <armabot> eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? EH?!?!?!!!!!!1111ONEONE
04:44 <Stewie-arma> #durka
04:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?
04:44 <spidey> if the usd becomes = cad
04:44 <spidey> we should bomb .ca
04:44 <spidey> so cad = usd
04:44 <Stewie-arma> if cad > usd then we need to nuke .ca
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: that's because at their levels, they are richer than ever
04:45 <Vanhayes_> I doubt america could get away with bombing a non third world country
04:45 <luke-jr> Durka: what do you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> perhaps you should pay more attention to the phrase "rapidly disappearing middle class"
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: you underestimate Bush
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: or overestimate
04:45 <Vanhayes_> well since he is about to leave...
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> we're pretty fucked anyway, going to a IP/services based economy guarantees we're fucked
04:45 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: maybe
04:46 <Stewie-arma> he still has a full year
04:46 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: all he needs to do is declare martial law
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> we're just not smart enough to expect the whole world to sit at our knees and listen to our wisdom
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> especially not after we've alienated most of them over the war in Iraq
04:46 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: and poof-- he's our new dictator
04:46 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: when did we start getting wise
04:46 <Durka> luke-jr: Are you up for doing that, Lucifer_arma: sound good to u?
04:46 <luke-jr> Durka: Lucifer_arma can't see anything I say
04:46 <Stewie-arma> last I check our scores were lower than third world countrie's
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> and since we've been cutting manufacturing and shit for so long in favor of "services" and "intellectual property", we have nothing
04:46 <Stewie-arma> blech
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
04:47 <Stewie-arma> if I had proper grammar
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [04:45:08] <luke-jr> Durka: Lucifer_arma can't see anything I say, [04:44:56] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: and poof-- he's our new dictator, [04:44:34] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: all he needs to do is declare martial law, [04:44:24] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: maybe, [04:44:04] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: or overestimate, [04:43:52] <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: you underestimate Bush, [04:43:43] <luke-jr> Durka: what do (22 more messages)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?, [04:42:47] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?, [04:38:14] <luke-jr> Durka: learn to write CSS, [04:37:26] <luke-jr> [Sun Sep 16 2007] [01:10:39] <Durka> have a look, but don't share the link please, [04:37:12] <luke-jr> Durka: I WANT THAT LINK, [04:37:00] <luke-jr> Stewie-arma: did, [04:36:52] <luke-jr> (21 more messages)
04:47 <Stewie-arma> I guess that is a yes
04:47 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: <luke-jr> Durka: what do you think about a month of free Arma hosting as part of the AFL prize?
04:47 <Stewie-arma> [04:42:47] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: am I on your ignore?
04:47 <Vanhayes_> does it still highlight if you are ignoring the person who said your name Lucifer_arma ?
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: sure, no idea how useful it'll be, but it can't hurt :)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: no, I don't see it, it can't highlight
04:48 <Durka> luke-jr: deal :P
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> I think the ignore is done server-side
04:48 <luke-jr> ignore is client-side
04:48 <Vanhayes_> ah ok, wasnt sure
04:48 <luke-jr> Durka: hey, wait till you hear the other side of the agreement :p
04:48 <Durka> ;(
04:48 <luke-jr> LOL
04:48 <Durka> :'(
04:48 <Vanhayes_> way off topic, but just curious: do they have Prime times in the USA?
04:48 <Durka> #quote get 21
04:48 <armabot> Durka: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
04:48 <luke-jr> wtf is a prime time
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes_: like with TV?
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> we invented prime time
04:49 <Vanhayes_> heh no, knew you got that
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> 7-9pm every weeknight
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:49 <luke-jr> Durka: http://forums.armagetron.net/ is spam, BTW
04:49 <Vanhayes_> they are mini cigars
04:49 <Stewie-arma> lol no
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not sure about that particular brand, but we have lots of mini-cigars
04:50 <Durka> no no no, luke-jr: http://durkadurkaland.com is spam, fosho
04:50 <Stewie-arma> durka you missed the ad at the end of armagetron
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> this season will probably be a lot more competitive than the summer
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> so if luke's got any plans on trying to capitalize off the season directly, *now* is the time to start rampin that up
04:50 <Vanhayes_> ive tried most cigars/ mini cigars they sell here and prime time are probably my favorite
04:51 <Vanhayes_> is luke-jr still trying to/selling servers?
04:51 <Durka> LOL!
04:51 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_ you don't see as many cigar smokers in USA anymore
04:52 <Vanhayes_> really? lots around here, for some reason people believe its healthier
04:52 <luke-jr> healthier than what?
04:52 <Vanhayes_> it might be a little, but not that much
04:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:52 <Vanhayes_> cigs
04:52 <Stewie-arma> ? 2007 AFL, Some Rights Reserved
04:52 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: cigs are healthier than cigs?
04:52 <Vanhayes_> cigars are healthier than cigarettes
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> what are you confused about?
04:53 <luke-jr> Vanhayes_: I say both should be illegal
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> cigars are only healthier than cigarettes for two reasons
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> 1. None of the crazy additives you find in cigarettes (solved by smoking additive free cigarettes)
04:53 <Vanhayes_> dont inhale, and not as frequent
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> 2. They're so nasty, you don't smoke as much
04:54 <Vanhayes_> most people dont inhale a cigar, jusat let the smoke stay in your mouth
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04:54 <Lucifer_arma> right, so the danger with cigars is mouth cancer over lung cancer, typically
04:54 <Stewie-arma> Durka: looks like you have over 4 servers
04:55 <Stewie-arma> http://durkas.info/afl/servers.php
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> with dips you also are in danger of throat cancer, because of the tendency to swallow the nasty shit (stomach cancer too)
04:55 <Vanhayes_> ya, they show the moth cancer warning on most cigar packs, cases
04:55 <Stewie-arma> moth cancer lol
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> that warning's for real :)
04:55 <Vanhayes_> ya, its an epidemic, 3 out of 5 moths die from moth cancer
04:56 <Stewie-arma> Vanhayes_: they also find the 1 out of every 3 rats die from chemicals...
04:57 <Vanhayes_> thats because rats are dirty
04:57 <Stewie-arma> the other 2/3 die from being tests
04:57 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:57 <Vanhayes_> and they like the taste of rat poison
04:57 <Khalsa> a roster is a list of players right?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:58 <Khalsa> then rules 4 through 7 kind of dont jive the way they are worded http://durkas.info/afl/rules.php
04:59 <luke-jr> 4 and 5 contradict each other
04:59 <luke-jr> wtf
04:59 <Khalsa> how can they "not change throughout the season" then the following 3-4 rules are all about how to change it?
04:59 <Stewie-arma> lol
04:59 <Durka> well
04:59 <Durka> the idea was
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> becasue without outside intervention, they can't be changed :)
04:59 <Stewie-arma> you get the point
04:59 <Durka> the odd rules contradict the even ones
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:59 <Durka> (i copied these from luci)
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> see, you're supposed to think of the roster as unchangeable
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> but in special circumstances, they can be changed
05:00 <Stewie-arma> but it can be changed
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> when it's to the league's advantage
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> think of it like this:
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> you have your unchangeable roster
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> you're all that's left
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> so we either forfeit your team for the rest of the season, or we allow you to rebuild it
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> rebuilding it is more fun, forfeiting is not
05:01 <Khalsa> that makes sense, the rules should say that ^^^
05:01 <Durka> ROFL Lucifer_arma
05:01 <Khalsa> >_>
05:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:01 <Durka> terrorist attack xD
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> the rules do say that :)
05:01 <Durka> Khalsa: any other names?
05:01 <Stewie-arma> that wouldn't be a terrorist attack actually
05:01 <Khalsa> Durka: what?
05:01 <Stewie-arma> unless you count a team as a country
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> mind you, I (and you!) live in a place that has right-on-red laws
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> red means stop! Always!
05:02 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:02 <Durka> XD
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> but if you're turning right, you can treat it like a stop sign
05:02 <GodTodd> bah just add a "except under special circumstances and with approval of a judge" to 4
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> no!
05:02 * Durka sigh
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> because, get this, then people will always decide they have special circumstances
05:02 <Stewie-arma> again it would not be a terrorist attack
05:02 <Durka> damnit
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> and we'll spend most of our time trying to explain to them that their circumstances are not special
05:02 <Durka> i can't find #4
05:02 <Durka> all i see is <li>
05:03 <GodTodd> and people don't try and change them now?
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, but if your teammate can't show up to every game, that's hardly special circumstances
05:03 <GodTodd> :P
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> they do, but my experience over the summer was that most attempts were for good reasons
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> if you say "your roster can't change except ...", we'll get more bad reasons on the pile
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I need to get aflbot running again, don't I?
05:04 <Stewie-arma> yeah you do
05:04 <Durka> ok
05:04 <Durka> I think i fixed it
05:04 <Durka> hit refresh
05:04 <Durka> #4 and #5 should make sense now
05:04 <Durka> :P
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> bahahahaha
05:04 <Stewie-arma> blech they make worse sense now
05:05 <GodTodd> hahahaha
05:05 <Durka> better?
05:05 <Durka> let's see if anyone notices >:)
05:05 <Stewie-arma> no
05:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:05 <Durka> then we will know if anyone actually reads the rules
05:05 <Khalsa> LOL
05:05 <Khalsa> I only read up to #4
05:06 <GodTodd> it'd be better if it had something like "depending on how well the judges like you and your team"
05:06 <GodTodd> get some nice emo whining going :)
05:06 <Khalsa> why not, "rosters can be changed with a nominal administration fee sent to Lucifer_arma"
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> man
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's just like history class
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> remember loose interpretation of the constitution vs strict interpretation?
05:07 <Khalsa> with payment of a*
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> we get that here, but this seasonw ill probably be worse than last season
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> that was why I wrote the guidelines page, I ot sick of people coming up thinking they were afl lawyers
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> this is more like AD&D
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> me and Durka, we can make decisions that totally contradict the rules if we want
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> we're guided only by what makes the league fun for the most people
05:07 <Khalsa> just saying, maybe you should rewrite it so it's a little less open to interpretation, or just say these are guidlines, our word is law?
05:07 <GodTodd> well..it's human nature...you have more than one person read something, you'll get more than one interpretation of what is being said :)
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's what the rules are there for, after all
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> and if the rules get in the way, then fuck the rules for the time being
05:08 <Durka> ok, read them now
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> teams can't make that call, of course :)
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> make it say "seek league approval from Durka or Lucifer"
05:09 <Khalsa> 5-6-7 become redundant with the new 4
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> here's a better idea :)
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: you rewrite the rules and show your rewrite to Durka
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> if he likes it, he uses it :)
05:09 <GodTodd> hahaha delegation...i love it :)
05:09 <Khalsa> hey hey, I'm just giving some nice critisizm on your words
05:09 <Khalsa> no one said anything about me doing work >_>
05:09 <Durka> k, updated AGAIN
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, teams can drop players at will
05:10 <GodTodd> work is a 4 letter word..
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's kind of important :)
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> if someone on the team gets disgruntled, he can tk everybody and make them lose
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's no fun
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> so the team should be able to drop him, and enjoy support for the decision :)
05:11 <GodTodd> we should have a freeciv 1tpd tourny....
05:11 <GodTodd> ;)
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's one of those situations that will probably be rare, but when it happens it'll be a big deal for that team
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh, maybe we should run a scorched3d league to complement AFL :)
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> I'm surprised the AFL channel hasn't filled up again already
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> probably as we get closer to the games
05:12 <Khalsa> well, maybe want to also avoid that rogue player coming to you and telling you that their team is dropping x player, even though the rogue player is the asshole who needs to be dropped
05:12 <GodTodd> hey...my tourny would be cheap on the prizes...you just try and be the last one to survive (old age, you know) :)
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: I think we'll be well-equipped to deal with that situation
05:13 <GodTodd> Khalsa: ostensibly that's what team captains are for
05:13 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: drop's require our approval
05:13 <Durka> oooo, Lucifer_arma I GOT IT
05:13 <Durka> you know how u said we're free to make our own decisions?
05:13 <Khalsa> oh, didnt see anything about team captains
05:14 <GodTodd> #6
05:14 <Durka> well
05:14 <Khalsa> oh,
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> yep, we do require team captains :)
05:14 <Durka> let's say it's CT vs |x| in the finals
05:14 <Durka> and |x| wins
05:14 <Durka> but then i secretly have |x| take a drug test
05:14 <Durka> and find out that rica took steroids
05:14 <Durka> CT WINS!
05:14 <Durka> xD
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:14 <Durka> sorry, i amuse myself sometimes =/
05:15 <GodTodd> heh only a few things wrong with that ;)
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but, see, if we didn't allow drug use, not only could we not enforce it, but we wouldn't have any players
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> so our official opinion is to just look the other way :)
05:15 * GodTodd goes to bulk up for a tron game :)
05:15 <GodTodd> i'll push those keys harder than any of y'all
05:16 <GodTodd> :)
05:16 <Durka> LOL
05:16 * Lucifer_arma hopes to establish the only sporting league that doesn't give a shit about drug use
05:17 <Durka> ping pong ^^
05:17 <Durka> o god, one more time, lemme paste that amazing quote
05:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr amazing, or actual amazing?
05:17 <Durka> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:17 <Khalsa> under season shouldn't it be 3 games per server? as per the info #3 under Games?
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> um, I think that's a changed rule, so there may be inconsistencies that haven't been addressed
05:18 <Durka> Khalsa: english please
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we agree with 5 matches to a game?
05:18 <Khalsa> oh, nvm
05:18 <Stewie-arma> lucifer sorry they already have video game tourneys
05:18 <Khalsa> difference between matches and games
05:18 <Khalsa> 3 matches = 1 game?
05:18 <Durka> game = best of 5
05:18 <Stewie-arma> 3 win matches = game
05:19 <Durka> yesh!
05:19 <Stewie-arma> up to 3
05:19 <Stewie-arma> I mean 5
05:19 <Durka> yesh! again!
05:19 <Stewie-arma> up to 5 matches
05:19 <Durka> oO
05:19 <Stewie-arma> to a game
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> first past the post, right?
05:19 <Khalsa> read what it says under Games, #3
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: it should be first past the post
05:19 <Stewie-arma> I can't
05:19 <luke-jr> http://durkas.info/
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> for that many matches, anyway
05:19 <luke-jr> is that the final page?
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> so the first team to win 3 matches wins the game
05:19 <Khalsa> then under Season #2
05:19 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: FFS
05:20 <luke-jr> or will there be like afl.armagetronad.net or such
05:20 <Durka> in 99% of sports
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> we know it'll take a mximum of 5 games for that to happen, but it's different than best 3 of 5 :)
05:20 <Durka> best of = first past the post
05:20 <luke-jr> Durka: fix the AFL site :p
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, but here it's not :)
05:20 <Durka> ppl understand lol
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> here if your team wins the first 2 in best 2 of 3, the other team demands the third game ;)
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> fine, if we don't have to explicitly state first past the post, then don't
05:20 <Durka> that's not true at all
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> there's only one way to see which of us is right :)
05:21 <Durka> >:)
05:21 <Durka> luke-jr: what's wrong>'
05:21 <Stewie-arma> I AM RIGHT DAME IT!
05:21 <Durka> ToddKitchen !!!
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:21 <Stewie-arma> Durka why are you saying peoples names?
05:21 -!- Stewie-arma was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [don't call me a dame]
05:21 -!- Stewie-arma [n=Stewie-a@cpe-72-130-168-7.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
05:21 <Stewie-arma> oh snap
05:21 <@Lucifer_arma> heh
05:21 <luke-jr> Durka: the mailing list stuff overlaps the tabs
05:21 <GodTodd> he's busy...what do you want Durka?
05:21 <spidey> ownbed
05:21 <GodTodd> :P
05:21 <spidey> -b
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:21 <Stewie-arma> DAME IT!
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> I always kick people more when I'm sick, I've noticed
05:22 <Durka> luke-jr: not on mine, screenshot please?
05:22 <Stewie-arma> good thing I have auto rejoin
05:22 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i'll give you a nickle if i can have channel op :D
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm not in the mood to ban
05:22 <luke-jr> Durka: try Ctrl-MouseWheelUp
05:22 <Durka> #alias add xD echo "<Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team"
05:22 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
05:22 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma: I'll give you a dime for channel op
05:22 <Stewie-arma> #xD
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> #xD
05:22 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:22 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
05:23 <Durka> luke-jr: ??
05:23 <Stewie-arma> fine I'll give you a quarter for channel op
05:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i'll give you a dick for channel op
05:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o GodTodd] by ChanServ
05:23 -!- luke-jr was kicked from #armagetron by GodTodd [User terminated!]
05:23 <spidey> haha
05:23 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:23 <@GodTodd> :D
05:23 <Stewie-arma> that's terrible
05:23 <spidey> haha
05:24 <Khalsa> ok, so the team who get's their matches on their declared home server has a bit of an advantage, as they have a better chance of winning 3-in-a-row on a low ping server right?
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
05:24 <Khalsa> get's it first*
05:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:24 <Durka> Khalsa: sure i guess
05:24 <Stewie-arma> who started this channel?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: that's why there's supposed to be two games for each pair up
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> one on each team's home server
05:24 <Durka> too complicated ^^
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> it'll make more sense when you see the schedule
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> not that complicated
05:25 <Durka> all that REALLY matters is the play offs
05:25 <Durka> we should instead have only 6 teams make the playoffs
05:25 <Durka> with the top 2 getting byes
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, your position in the playoffs determines which team gets the server
05:25 <Stewie-arma> and by 6 you mean 8
05:25 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: that's now how the rules make it sound
05:25 <Durka> that gets motivation
05:25 <Stewie-arma> cause then you would have one team get a by
05:25 <Khalsa> s/now/not/
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: speaking of which, should we go back to the four-team playoffs?
05:25 <Durka> no
05:25 <Durka> 6 team playoffs
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> that was the original plan, playoffs being roughly half the teams that participated
05:25 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> are there 8 teams already?
05:26 <Stewie-arma> then one team gets a buy to the finals
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'm actually expecting more this time, for some reason
05:26 <Durka> no...but there will >:)
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> 6 team playoffs are fine with me
05:26 <Stewie-arma> after winning first round
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I have a preference for eliminating the bottom-ranked teams anyway
05:26 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> we didn't in the summer because of ooops's withdrawal, the only way I could see for the playoffs to be fair was to just let everyone in
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> we shouldn't have that problem this time, though
05:27 <Stewie-arma> if you have 6 team play offs then after the first round of the play offs there will be a team that gets a buy to the finals
05:27 <Durka> if we have 8 teams in the league, 6 team playoffs would work best since the worst 2 teams don't make it since they sucked ass during the regular season and the top 2 teams get rewarded for doing so well in the regular season by getting byes the first round, the #3 and #4 seeds get decent draws, mkay?
05:27 <Stewie-arma> and the other two have to duke it out
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> no, two teams are eliminated in the first round
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then we have four teams left for the second round
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> third round is the final
05:27 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:28 <Stewie-arma> with a 6 team play off then you need 3 matches in first round of final
05:28 <Durka> no Stewie-arma
05:28 <Stewie-arma> ...
05:28 <Durka> the first round is
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> the playoffs are a knockout tournament
05:28 <Stewie-arma> I know lucifer
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> the regular season seeds it
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> so the first round has two games, four teams
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> two fo them lose, two win and advance
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> then the two that had byes come in and we have two more ames with four teams
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> again, two lose, and two advance to the championship
05:28 <Durka> #1 vs [bye]
05:28 <Durka> #4 vs #5
05:28 <Durka> #3 vs #6
05:28 <Durka> #2 vs [bye]
05:28 <Stewie-arma> so either way there is a bye
05:29 <Durka> get it?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> well yeah, that's the point
05:29 <GodTodd> 1, 2 get byes...3 plays 6, 4 plays 5.........r2......1 plays 5 or6, 2 plays 3 or 4........r3 winners play
05:29 <Stewie-arma> blech
05:29 <Stewie-arma> I get it
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> the reason you want to be one of the highest ranked teams is so you don't get eliminated
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> in the first round, I mean
05:29 <GodTodd> yep
05:29 <Stewie-arma> eh
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> so while they're playing the first round, yu're practicing
05:29 <Stewie-arma> if you want it that way
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully :)
05:29 <Durka> teams #7, #8 can play mini golf together :P
05:30 <spidey> ...
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> or practice for the spring :)
05:30 <Durka> xD
05:30 <GodTodd> or get a life...
05:30 <GodTodd> :)
05:30 <Stewie-arma> no one practices for spring
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect this is going to work out well enough that a spring season will run too
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05:30 <spidey> haha
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I hope so, I didn't start AFL just to stop it right away
05:30 <spidey> wb luke-jr
05:30 <Durka> Khalsa: What names do you use ingame? :\
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol the high rubber tilt did
05:30 <luke-jr> GodTodd: apologize
05:30 <Durka> o yea, Stewie-arma wasn't that tonight? :S
05:30 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:31 <Stewie-arma> I didn't sign up so I wouldn't know
05:31 <GodTodd> soon as you apologize for all the times you've done that to me :)
05:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:31 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd get a life
05:31 -!- GodTodd was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr [sorry]
05:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, luke did something funny
05:31 <luke-jr> :)
05:31 -!- GodTodd [n=TheTruth@pool-71-123-207-64.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> quick, take a picture!
05:31 <Stewie-arma> it's a miracle!
05:31 <Khalsa> Durka: Gursikh and khalsa
05:31 <GodTodd> oh no! i'm so hurt now!
05:32 <Stewie-arma> praise Jesus, luke-jr made a joke!
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> this is like a first
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there is a god, because that was a fucking miracle!
05:32 <Stewie-arma> well by a joke I mean a funny joke
05:32 <Durka> #roulette
05:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
05:32 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:32 <GodTodd> [2007-09-16 22:29] [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:32 <GodTodd> someone quote that :)
05:33 <Stewie-arma> quote it damn it
05:33 <Stewie-arma> #roulette
05:33 <armabot> Stewie-arma: *click*
05:33 <Stewie-arma> phew
05:33 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=afl
05:33 <Durka> Khalsa: Ah, so you're the one on the xzl site that asked for the settings :D
05:33 <luke-jr> should I up the prices, since this isn't a short-season, I wonder?
05:33 <Khalsa> yup
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add [Kick] You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <Stewie-arma> yup
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
05:34 * Khalsa is lazier than he seems
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
05:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr: dunno...have you had any luck with your current prices?
05:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add -Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
05:34 <luke-jr> GodTodd: no
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
05:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:34 <GodTodd> luke-jr: then i'd have to say probably not
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add -Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry).
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded. Quote #59 added.
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> there
05:34 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I suspect I was late to the short-season
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 59
05:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> now it looks like I got kicked
05:35 <luke-jr> and it's easier to lower prices than to raise them... hm
05:35 <luke-jr> lol
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
05:35 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:35 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer that's cute
05:35 * GodTodd just knows that if business is slow *raising* prices usually doesn't speed it up
05:36 <luke-jr> GodTodd: yeah, but this is a new package, so the prices aren't fixed yet
05:36 <luke-jr> the last AFL was just 2 games
05:36 <luke-jr> this one is 8-10
05:36 * GodTodd notes if you eat a person from China you're likely to get lead poisoning...
05:37 <GodTodd> or a funky rash
05:37 <Stewie-arma> or even die!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> oh god!
05:37 <GodTodd> or turn communist!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> AWWW NOT COMMUNIST!
05:37 <Stewie-arma> #kill Stewie-arma
05:37 <armabot> Stewie-arma will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Stewie-arma
05:37 <Durka>
05:37 <Durka>
05:37 <Durka>
05:37 <Durka>
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05:38 <Stewie-arma> durka don
05:38 <Durka>
05:38 <Durka>
05:38 <Stewie-arma> t be a dick
05:38 <Durka>
05:38 <Durka>
05:38 <Durka> woah wtf
05:38 <luke-jr> ...
05:38 <GodTodd> you are what you eat :)
05:38 <Durka> luke-jr: can I have a screenshot please?
05:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Khalsa] by ChanServ
05:38 <Stewie-arma> Durka srsly don't be an dick
05:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:38 <Durka> :S
05:38 <@Khalsa> o_O
05:38 <Stewie-arma> wait why did khalsa get chan op?
05:38 <luke-jr> Durka: no, I lost the URI when GodTodd kicked me
05:39 <GodTodd> no backlog?
05:39 <GodTodd> lame
05:39 <luke-jr> GodTodd: not that far
05:39 <GodTodd> i have mine set to max :)
05:39 <Stewie-arma> why haven't I gotten chan op *whines more*
05:39 <luke-jr> I did, until the IRC client was using like 50 MB for backlog
05:39 <luke-jr> of RAM
05:39 <Durka> luke-jr: durkas.info
05:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Stewie-arma] by ChanServ
05:39 <luke-jr> Durka: that's not a URI
05:39 <@Stewie-arma> yay
05:40 <Durka> -.-
05:40 <@Stewie-arma> that's auto right?
05:40 <@Stewie-arma> ^.^
05:40 <luke-jr> kick yourself and find out?
05:40 -!- Stewie-arma was kicked from #armagetron by Stewie-arma [we are testing]
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05:40 <Durka> bbl
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05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv P4 hoop_tron armabot tramshed] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv Lucifer_arma wejp noob13 wrtlprnft] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv luke-jr spidey Vanhayes_ guru3] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv z-man BedMan Jovan10 Stewie-arma] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v ToddKitchen] by Khalsa
05:41 <+Stewie-arma> what?
05:41 <@Khalsa> voice for all!
05:41 <+luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot16.png
05:41 <+luke-jr> http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/snapshot17.png
05:41 <+Stewie-arma> lol
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Khalsa] by Khalsa
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Khalsa] by Khalsa
05:42 <+Stewie-arma> maybe you shouldn't be zooming in?
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05:42 <+luke-jr> Stewie-arma: I'm not
05:43 <Stewie-arma> ?
05:43 <+luke-jr> well
05:43 <Stewie-arma> wtf?
05:43 <+luke-jr> I am in 17
05:43 <+luke-jr> but either way, it's broken :p
05:43 <Stewie-arma> not fo me
05:43 <+Khalsa> What was the deal with the random op?
05:43 <Stewie-arma> it wasn't random
05:44 <Stewie-arma> damn I'm hungry
05:44 <+GodTodd> amazing...if luke-jr has a web page that's "broken" it's because someone's browser is "lame"...but the other way around it's the sites problem...
05:44 <+luke-jr> Stewie-arma: your screen is a different size
05:44 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr: what was your's set to?
05:44 <+luke-jr> or, more likely, a different DPI
05:45 <+luke-jr> 142x133 dpi
05:45 <Stewie-arma> aww
05:45 <+Khalsa> is "epic" a noun?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> it can be
05:46 <+GodTodd> depends on context
05:46 <+Khalsa> There's drama, excitement, love, loyalty, honor, and all the other stuff that makes an epic.
05:46 <+GodTodd> that's a noun
05:47 <+GodTodd> luke-jr's BO is epic <--- that's when it's an adjective
05:47 <+GodTodd> :)
05:47 <+Khalsa> oohhh
05:47 <Stewie-arma> anything can be anything, I mean I've seen someone use 5 is using proper grammar
05:47 <+Khalsa> stupid enlish
05:47 <+luke-jr> bs
05:47 <+Khalsa> english*
05:47 <Stewie-arma> everyone knows what is is is is is
05:47 <+GodTodd> ok...luke-jr's BS is epic
05:47 <+GodTodd> better, luke-jr?
05:48 <+GodTodd> :)
05:48 <+luke-jr> yeah
05:48 <+luke-jr> I have the best brown sugar
05:48 <+Lucifer_arma> wtf?
05:48 <+GodTodd> and the worst bullshit :)
05:48 <+luke-jr> I don't have a bull, idiot
05:48 <+luke-jr> :)
05:48 <+GodTodd> just the head of one?
05:48 <+GodTodd> :)
05:48 <Stewie-arma> then why do you have it's shit?
05:48 <Stewie-arma> did you steal it?
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:49 <Stewie-arma> luke-jr why are you stealing a bull's shit?
05:49 <Stewie-arma> I'm guessing people are going to get /devoice ed?
05:49 <+Khalsa> How much is the fee fow afl?
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 <+Khalsa> for*
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 <Stewie-arma> nothing this time
05:49 <+GodTodd> $500
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v BedMan] by Lucifer_arma
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v duudii] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v guru3] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v hoop_tron] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Stewie-arma] by ChanServ
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Jovan10] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 <GodTodd> small bills and sent directly to me
05:50 <+Khalsa> how much last time?
05:50 <@Stewie-arma> weishenme?
05:50 <GodTodd> :)
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Khalsa] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v mkzelda] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v noob13] by luke-jr
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05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v luke-jr] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v P4] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v mkzelda] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v noob13] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Stewie-arma] by luke-jr
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05:50 <Khalsa> you can do more than one per line >_>
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Vanhayes_] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Stewie-arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v wejp] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v wrtlprnft] by luke-jr
05:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v z-man] by luke-jr
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v ToddKitchen] by Lucifer_arma
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v tramshed] by Lucifer_arma
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Vanhayes_] by Lucifer_arma
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-oo Lucifer_arma Stewie-arma] by luke-jr
05:51 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:51 <Stewie-arma> well that was fun
05:51 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:51 <luke-jr> Khalsa: Konversation does them one at a time
05:51 <luke-jr> I just selected everyone and clicked
05:51 <Khalsa> oh lame
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> this is going to take forever
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> hey you guys can stop
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> my client's doing it automatically
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's just taking forever
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> there, normalcy is restored, except now I'm getting a bunch of notices "you need to be a channel op to do that"
05:51 <Khalsa> irssi ftw
05:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:52 <Stewie-arma> that stinks
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> told you my client was doing it automatically, though I appreciate the help :)
05:52 <Stewie-arma> aww I didn't know about the right clicking stuff
05:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: actually, your chats didn't come through until after
05:53 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:53 <Stewie-arma> --- #armagetron :You need to be a channel operator to do that
05:53 <Stewie-arma> yay
05:59 <Stewie-arma> blech
05:59 <Stewie-arma> quick /auto Stewie-arma
05:59 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:00 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
06:00 <Stewie-arma> that's nifty
06:03 <Stewie-arma> btw why is there no /mdevoice ?
06:34 <Khalsa> -v?
06:52 <Vanhayes_> #night
06:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes_!
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07:07 <Stewie-arma> spidey got wasted again?
07:07 <Stewie-arma> I can tell causse the server is 999ing again
07:09 <GodTodd> last i knew he had had like 1/4 gallon of vodka...was even drinking it in tea :)
07:14 <Stewie-arma> crud
07:14 <Stewie-arma> nvm it's just my isp being a biatch
07:16 <Stewie-arma> blech
07:16 <Stewie-arma> aww my interwebs is back
07:17 <Stewie-arma> but he was talking after that
07:17 <Stewie-arma> ...
07:18 <Stewie-arma> might have finished the 1/4 gallon
07:23 <Stewie-arma> oh crapping out again
07:23 <Stewie-arma> Todd you any good at math?
07:24 <Stewie-arma> grrr
07:28 <GodTodd> depends on the math, i suppose
07:28 <Stewie-arma> pre-cal?
07:28 <GodTodd> what's the question?
07:29 <Stewie-arma> There are two circles that go through (9,2). Each one is tangent to both coordinate axes. Find the center and the radius for each circle.
07:31 <Stewie-arma> the only question I haven't been able to solve so far
07:40 <Khalsa> so plug in your known values into the equation of a circle
07:41 <Khalsa> complete the square, and you have your circle
07:41 <Khalsa> you will automatically know the center and radius from the equation
07:42 <Khalsa> just need to do it twice, once for each circle
07:44 <GodTodd> bah...and here i was beating myself over the head trying to remember formulas...i never remember to complete the square :/
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> we did a million of those problems back in calc 3 :/
07:49 <Stewie-arma> arg I forgot about the equation of a circle
07:49 <Stewie-arma> silly me
07:49 <Stewie-arma> wait a second
07:49 <Stewie-arma> I don't have the answer...
07:49 <Stewie-arma> I have 3 variables
07:49 <Stewie-arma> h k and r
07:50 <Stewie-arma> ...
07:50 <Khalsa> how not
07:50 <Khalsa> you have the coordinates for two points on each circle
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> yep
07:50 <Stewie-arma> since when?
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you plug those in as x and y and solve for the rest
07:50 <Khalsa> use the expanded equation of a circle to plug in your numbers
07:50 <Khalsa> and then solve
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> both circles go through the point 9,2 at least
07:51 <Stewie-arma> x and y are the center coordinates are they not?
07:51 <Khalsa> and you know the x or y value (o) of each one
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, h,k are
07:51 <Stewie-arma> grrr
07:51 <Stewie-arma> oh yeah
07:51 <Stewie-arma> but I still ned c
07:51 <Stewie-arma> or r
07:51 <Stewie-arma> depending on which one you are using
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> (x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2
07:52 * Lucifer_arma just looking at the formula
07:52 <Stewie-arma> yeah that one
07:52 <Stewie-arma> lol
07:52 <Stewie-arma> or x^2 + y^2 + a x + b y = c
07:53 <Stewie-arma> how would I solve for three variables?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, you need 3 equations to solve for three variables :)
07:54 <Khalsa> plug the equation for x into the equation for y as a variable, everything will cancel out and you will have your y (or w/e var), then use that y in your x equation, then use your x and y to solve for r
07:55 <Khalsa> no, we wont do it for you >_> you need to learn it!
07:55 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa, you need the r to do either of those
07:55 <Stewie-arma> other wise it will = 0
07:55 <Stewie-arma> well
07:55 <Stewie-arma> it will be some number = o
07:55 <Stewie-arma> 0
07:56 <Stewie-arma> will the r not cancel out the other r?
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> do it and see what happens
07:56 <Khalsa> try again monkey!
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's the point of all these exercises, not for you to do it and get the right answer, but to do it and see what happens
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> when you get the right answer, and you see what happens, you learn
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> but if you get the right answer without seeing what happens, you don't learn
07:57 <Stewie-arma> yeah my problem is that I try to see what happens before actually doing stuff lol
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's not unusual to find yourself working the same problem 3-4 times or more until you get it :)
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's good, and you need to do that, but don't let it stop you from actually doing stuff
07:58 <tramshed> this work for anyone?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> you want to develop an ability to look at a problem and see all of its steps in your mind before you work it
07:58 <tramshed> http://im.catapultingfeces.com/irc/cybercuntz.html
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> how can you do that if you don't try to see its steps before working it?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but you still have to work it :)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> working for me, tramshed (hi there!)
07:59 <tramshed> right on, thanks
07:59 <tramshed> and harhar
08:01 <Stewie-arma> actually luci I only need 2 equations (after I have the initial one)
08:01 <Stewie-arma> nvm
08:01 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> ? if you have three unknowns, you must have 3 equations...
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> we've got problems in statics right now where you have 4 unknowns, and the vector equations only give you 3
08:02 <Stewie-arma> say wha?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> so you have to find a fourth equation that relates two variables somehow
08:02 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, you said you know about vectors :)
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> when you have forces acting, and there's no acceleration, you can add all the forces together and set them equal to 0
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> since the vectors are three dimensional, you get three equations, one for each component, all set = 0
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's basically what the whole class is about, too. So I'll be doing this the whole semester :)
08:04 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:05 <Stewie-arma> k=r-(9-(r-(2-k)-9))-2 I think I did something wrong...
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> you've got k on both sides
08:05 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's a sure sign you've screwed up :)
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> assuming that's supposed to give an expression for k, that is. If it's the first step after a substitution, you might be fine
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> (no, I haven't bothered writing it all out myself)
08:06 <Stewie-arma> it was the first step after a substitution
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> that's going to wind up 0=0
08:07 <Stewie-arma> exactly
08:08 <Stewie-arma> although it could be my h=r-(2-k)-9 that could be wrong
08:09 <Stewie-arma> substituting for r would probably get a better answer
08:10 <Stewie-arma> actually no
08:10 <Stewie-arma> mlol
08:10 <Stewie-arma> cause then I would still be left with k a 0=0
08:10 <Stewie-arma> hmmm...
08:11 <Stewie-arma> I've gone cookoo
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> eek
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> wxMaxima just gave me a really wild answer set
08:12 <Stewie-arma> somehow I think I'm missing something
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> use the distance formula to find the center :)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> the center must be the same distance from P(9,2), as well as some point x=0 and some other point y=0
08:14 <Stewie-arma> luckily there is only one x=0 and y=0 point for each
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = d^2
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's for x=0
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> (9-y)^2 + (2)^2 = d^2
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> for y = 0
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> the d could be changed to r
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> oops
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = d^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = d^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> 9^2 + (2-y)^2 = r^2
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = r^2
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> don't know if that helps
08:17 <Stewie-arma> it does actually
08:17 <Stewie-arma> or hopefully it does
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> (9-x)^2 + (2)^2 = 9^2 + (2-y)^2
08:18 <Stewie-arma> yes thank you
08:19 <Stewie-arma> wait a secnod
08:19 <Stewie-arma> second
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> x and y can be changed to h and k, since the point the equation represents is the point that satisfies the requirement of the circle's center
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> but then this equation is probably buried somewhere in the circle formulas :(
08:21 * Lucifer_arma is still sick!
08:22 <Stewie-arma> lol y-4=x
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08:24 <MrBougo> hello
08:24 <Stewie-arma> hi
08:24 <MrBougo> heh
08:24 <MrBougo> i was excpecting no anwser
08:24 <Stewie-arma> orly?
08:25 <MrBougo> yup
08:25 <Stewie-arma> well I'm stuck here asking luci for help on math lol
08:25 <MrBougo> :p
08:25 <MrBougo> what kind of math
08:25 <Stewie-arma> pre-cal
08:25 <Stewie-arma> you any good at it?
08:26 <Stewie-arma> I'll write the question in equation form lol
08:26 <Stewie-arma> (9-h)^2+(2-k)^2=r^2
08:26 <Stewie-arma> need to get h k and r
08:27 <MrBougo> to insulate them
08:27 <MrBougo> wait
08:27 <MrBougo> is it correct in english
08:27 <Stewie-arma> need to get what number they represent
08:27 <MrBougo> here we say "isoler"
08:28 <MrBougo> yea
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> isolate
08:28 <MrBougo> r is kind of easy, isnt it?
08:28 <Stewie-arma> not really
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> derived from the french, obviously :)
08:28 <MrBougo> wee
08:28 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:28 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma, but theres isolate and insulate
08:28 <MrBougo> :p
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> although why we'd admit such barbaric words into our language is quite beyond me
08:28 <MrBougo> heh
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> insuler != isoler
08:29 <MrBougo> insuler doesnt exist in french afaik
08:29 <luke-jr> I think that's his point
08:29 <MrBougo> or maybe in old french
08:29 <MrBougo> so you cant put a square root on everything, Stewie-arma ?
08:29 <MrBougo> :p
08:29 <Stewie-arma> blech I forgotten about completing the square for r
08:29 <Stewie-arma> oh wait
08:30 <Stewie-arma> no MrBougo cause then you're still left with 3 variables
08:30 <MrBougo> wait... with one expression you need to calculate all the values?
08:30 <Stewie-arma> yeah
08:31 <MrBougo> urhmerm
08:31 <Stewie-arma> oh I forgot
08:31 <MrBougo> maybe its something about the domains then
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> [00:29] <Stewie-arma> There are two circles that go through (9,2). Each one is tangent to both coordinate axes. Find the center and the radius for each circle.
08:31 <Stewie-arma> that one
08:31 <MrBougo> oh ok
08:31 <Stewie-arma> that was the equation for the first part
08:31 <Stewie-arma> hehe
08:31 <MrBougo> sounds crazy
08:32 <MrBougo> heh, if they're tangent to both axes and not the same
08:32 <MrBougo> the 2nd one is huge
08:33 <Stewie-arma> the thing that throws me off how can they be tangent to both axes if the point is so close to the x axis
08:33 <MrBougo> heh
08:33 <MrBougo> it's possible
08:33 <Stewie-arma> it would seem like they would have to be the same circle
08:33 <MrBougo> nah
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> there's one with a center whose x value is less than 9, and one whose x value is greater than 9
08:33 <MrBougo> just imagine
08:33 <Stewie-arma> or just slightly off
08:33 <MrBougo> wait im doing some stuff in paint
08:33 <MrBougo> yea thats it
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, the center has to be on the line y=x
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't it? for it to be the same distance from the two axes?
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> which means h=k
08:36 <MrBougo> heh, paint did a perfect job for this
08:36 <MrBougo> http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/7146/tangentgg3.png
08:36 <Stewie-arma> lucifer you may have just cracked this case
08:36 <Stewie-arma> lol
08:37 <MrBougo> easy to draw circles tangent to horizontal and vertical lines with paint :p
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, it has a function for that?
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> autocad does :)
08:37 <MrBougo> it doesnt
08:38 <MrBougo> you just draw the rectangle
08:38 <MrBougo> and the incircle is drawn
08:38 <MrBougo> :)
08:39 <Stewie-arma> if only 0,0 was in the circles -.-
08:39 <Stewie-arma> would make this so much easier
08:39 <MrBougo> for such schemas some geometry software would be perfect
08:39 <MrBougo> like kig
08:39 <MrBougo> hehe Stewie-arma
08:41 <Stewie-arma> lol I'll just make it look like I answered it
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09:36 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/16/europe/space.php
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14:12 <spidey> um
14:12 <spidey> i think i puked my lungs up last night
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15:26 <Ady> #find subzero
15:26 <Ady> #lastseen subzero
15:27 <armabot> Ady: timed out
15:27 <Ady> #ping
15:27 <armabot> pong
15:27 <Ady> #lastseen bze
15:27 <armabot> Ady: ¦Ö¦$ubzero has last been seen on ¦/xddddffx¦/x9999ff clan sumo server 16 hours 19 minutes ago.
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16:51 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you busy?
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17:49 <epsy> #tea
17:49 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -{GP}- Gonzap, Bip, ikono, rugkei, Tr3zz, ~*SP*~viper~, ~{GP}~Gabor, ~|DS|~ mescalin, ~|DS|~sunny
17:56 <spidey> wow
17:56 <spidey> python's so picky about how you indent it
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18:29 <spidey> success!
18:30 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
19:02 <epsy> wrtlprnft, your server is laggying
19:02 <epsy> -.-
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19:35 <MrBougo> wee, im gonna have a dell notebook in 4 weeks
19:47 <epsy> you mean you just got fucked
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20:07 <MrBougo> epsy: ?
20:07 <MrBougo> why did i get fucked :/
20:08 <epsy> dell cheats you
20:08 <MrBougo> how
20:08 <epsy> their comp mostly ... sucks
20:08 <epsy> :/
20:10 <MrBougo> :/
20:10 <MrBougo> took a laptop with
20:10 <MrBougo> a core 2 duo @ 1.8 GhZ
20:10 <MrBougo> GHz*
20:10 <MrBougo> enough for me
20:10 <MrBougo> 2048 ram
20:10 <MrBougo> a nvidia with 256 cache
20:11 <MrBougo> thats way enough for me
20:11 <epsy> how many does this cost ?
20:11 <MrBougo> um
20:11 <MrBougo> 1300€
20:12 <MrBougo> about that
20:12 <MrBougo> with a belkin modem router
20:12 <epsy> O_o
20:12 <MrBougo> heh, i bought a router with it
20:12 <epsy> you need a modem on a laptop ? O_o
20:12 <MrBougo> ...
20:12 <epsy> a wifi router ok but a cable router is a litle confuse to me
20:12 <MrBougo> i need a wifi modem
20:12 <MrBougo> wifi modem router
20:12 <MrBougo> it does both
20:13 <epsy> 1300€ is still a bit expensive i must say
20:13 <MrBougo> -70€ from the router
20:13 <epsy> you can find good laptops under 1000€
20:13 <epsy> (and it's not without screen lol)
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20:14 <Bougo> i hate my isp
20:14 <Bougo> -70€ from the router
20:14 <Bougo> and it has vista, epsy
20:14 <Bougo> i hate vista
20:14 <epsy> don't worry, your ISP does it too
20:15 <epsy> then you got even more fucked
20:15 <Bougo> the ubuntu series dont have 17" screens
20:15 <Bougo> yea thats it
20:15 <epsy> lmao
20:15 <Bougo> the screen
20:15 <Bougo> 15" are way cheaper
20:15 <Bougo> like -200 or -300 €
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20:15 <MrBougo> i have a numeric keypad! \o/
20:16 <epsy> well, look at lenovo next time
20:16 <MrBougo> thanks to the space left by the 17" screen
20:16 <epsy> lol
20:16 <epsy> « left » lol!
20:16 <MrBougo> nah its on the right side
20:16 <MrBougo> :p
20:17 <epsy> i mean « space left by the bigger screen»
20:17 <MrBougo> oh no
20:17 <MrBougo> thats not what i mant
20:17 <MrBougo> meant
20:17 <MrBougo> the keypad isnt next to the screen :p
20:17 <epsy> i see what you mean
20:17 <epsy> but it's funny how you said it
20:17 <MrBougo> :p
20:18 <MrBougo> i wonder how to say that
20:18 <MrBougo> the screen is bigger so theres more place on the keyboard side
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20:20 <epsy> boo! i understood you lol
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20:37 <epsy> #cyborg
20:37 <armabot> epsy: E.P.S.Y.: Electronic Person Skilled in Yelling
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20:39 <epsy> ups
20:39 <epsy> [ x ] button :p
20:39 <MrBougo> hha
20:39 <MrBougo> skillled in yelling
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg button
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: B.U.T.T.O.N.: Biomechanical Unit Trained for Troubleshooting and Online Nullification
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg armagetron
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: A.R.M.A.G.E.T.R.O.N.: Artificial Robotic Machine Assembled for Galactic Exploration, Thorough Repair and Online Nullification
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg onononon
20:40 <armabot> MrBougo: O.N.O.N.O.N.O.N.: Operational Neohuman Optimized for Nullification, Online Negotiation and Omnipresent Nanotechnology
20:40 <MrBougo> #cyborg belgacom
20:41 <MrBougo> my ISP
20:41 <armabot> MrBougo: B.E.L.G.A.C.O.M.: Biomechanical Electronic Lifeform Generated for Assassination, Calculation and Online Mathematics
20:41 <MrBougo> yea, assassination
20:42 <epsy> j'avais pas d'idée pour msn :p
20:42 <luke-jr> #cyborg msnsucks
20:43 <armabot> luke-jr: M.S.N.S.U.C.K.S.: Mechanical Synthetic Neohuman Skilled in Ultimate Calculation and Kamikaze Sabotage
20:43 <MrBougo> #cyborg msn
20:43 <MrBougo> #cyborg wlm
20:43 <armabot> MrBougo: M.S.N.: Mechanical Synthetic Neohuman
20:43 <armabot> MrBougo: W.L.M.: Wireless Lifelike Machine
20:43 <epsy> #luke-jr_work MSN
20:43 <armabot> ♪ MSN is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <epsy> :p
20:43 <MrBougo> rofl
20:43 <MrBougo> roflmao
20:43 <luke-jr> #luke-jr_work MSN
20:43 <armabot> ♪ MSN is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <MrBougo> #luke-jr_work Epsy
20:43 <armabot> ♪ Epsy is obsolete. ♫
20:43 <MrBougo> haha i love it
20:43 <MrBougo> who mad the alias?
20:43 <epsy> yes, it now spells with no cap letter
20:43 <epsy> me probably
20:44 <MrBougo> #alias list
20:44 <MrBougo> err
20:44 <MrBougo> #list alias
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: monologue, roulette, 42, \\\:o, add, afl, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, cinf, cink, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, delire, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, finc, fink, fofo, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hd, hell, (2 more messages)
20:44 <epsy> -.-
20:44 <MrBougo> #\\\:o
20:44 <MrBougo> #\\\:o
20:44 <MrBougo> ???
20:44 <MrBougo> #help \\\:o
20:44 <armabot> MrBougo: (\\\:o <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "".
20:44 <MrBougo> sucka
20:45 <MrBougo> omg!
20:45 <MrBougo> #help null
20:45 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo ".
20:45 <MrBougo> k
20:45 <MrBougo> #disclaimer
20:45 <armabot> anti-online predator disclaimer: any sexual advances made by me upon anyone in this channel is to be considered a joke and not at all serious unless you are 18 years of age or older, female and hot.
20:45 <MrBougo> #hd
20:45 <MrBougo> bye
20:46 <MrBougo> #help hd
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: There is no command "hd".
20:46 <MrBougo> #hd
20:46 <armabot> .c F D E B D C C
20:46 <MrBougo> #help hd
20:46 <MrBougo> #help hd
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (hd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo .c F D E B D C C".
20:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (hd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo .c F D E B D C C".
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20:50 <epsy> #sd
20:50 <armabot> epsy: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
20:50 <epsy> #hd
20:50 <epsy> bah
20:50 <noob7> ?
20:56 <noob7> #sd wildcat
20:56 <armabot> noob7: WILDCAT: Players (6/8): #~crosses~#, Death Reborn, death reborn 2, Garo, Pasteque, Riga
20:56 <epsy> 600 ping
20:56 <epsy> argh
20:56 <epsy> #tea
20:56 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): De Graal, Kriki, SL°???, ~{GP}~G
20:57 <epsy> let's try
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21:13 <G5_Ger> #lastseen epsy
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> #xD
21:13 <armabot> G5_Ger: epsy|T| has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} 2 minutes ago.
21:13 <armabot> <Lucifer_arma> then half your team gets killed in a terrorist attack initiated by the other half of your team
21:14 <epsy> O_o
21:28 <epsy> err
21:28 <epsy> where can i get these little freenode java appelets ?
21:30 <G5_Ger> #lastseen sunny
21:30 <armabot> G5_Ger: ~|DS|~sunny seems to be on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Fortress {100MBit} right now.
21:30 <G5_Ger> #cafe
21:32 <epsy> the DS fort squad has it's own team :p
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> cool, I have 3 tests this week, yay!
21:50 <epsy> Excellent.
21:57 <epsy> #tea
21:57 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): -WhiteWeb-, shafferj, ~{GP}~E=Mc² Spa
21:57 <epsy> #onlineplayers
21:57 <armabot> epsy: This data is 37 seconds old; !!!!!!!!, (SK) THE ONE, -:R:- TropiK, -=}ID< JDawg, -=}ID< QUARG, -WhiteWeb-, -]0a|Arashi, -]0a|d31dar4, -]0a|Fabi, -]0a|tobi, -]0a|zetzu, .:] flåshy, .dBb|Pro, .dbd|Fireman, 911, <<jasmine>>, <<lonestar>>, =-axe-=, >3D> Hellion, ?, Andrey, Anth, anti christ, Asticot, black nigth, BlindMan's Dog, brschmogul, charlie, cHiLLen, CTxTadd, Dez, el, emphasis, Escape, Exp, (2 more messages)
21:57 <epsy> #more
21:57 <armabot> epsy: fingerbib, Gerto, Greta Garbo, Held, Hippie, ILiquidC nSnAiL, Indpdt Hunter, Infendo, ivr, jevaitetue bou, JS, L2K| Scorpion, lejatorn, LOL, mr noob, Mr.Weed, NightWalker, nolimits, noob242, one/arm\bandit, Oops, Paladin, Plastik, Player 2, Player 3, Player1, pod, Prof.Dr.Mr.D**M, Psychologist, quailman, Redrum, Ruben_GER, schwuli, shafferj, Solar, Solinux, StaX, SyntheX, toan, Tommy&Annika, (1 more message)
21:57 <epsy> #more
21:57 <armabot> epsy: TPRAP!D, tPsPeEd, Unleashed, Vader, VibesOfEcstasy, white danger, will, [DR]a55a551|\|, `-´Ehj.POPOL, {CK} chipps XL, {CN}Ardez, {USA}Carnage, |*.*|, |SPZ|Mixnetwork, ~Church~, ~j4f~p4nic, ~TPFear, ~YY~ bloodyfang, ~YY~boss, ~{GP}~E=Mc²Spa, ~|DS|~ Phantom, ~|DS|~Slash rox, ~|DS|~sunny, ~|DS|~|CruZ|~, ~|DS|~|dvDosc|, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦Ã¦FoFo, ¦Ã¦Elex, ¦ÃÂ¥Rico, °goMo°erEctuS°
21:57 <epsy> this is fucked
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23:24 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:24 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:24 <G5_Ger> f*ck
23:47 <G5_Ger> #tea
23:47 <armabot> G5_Ger: Fortress Café: No online players.
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23:52 <MaZuffeR> #lastseen madmax
23:52 <armabot> MaZuffeR: timed out
23:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
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