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--- Day changed Sun Sep 16 2007
00:23 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> edit?  :)
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's about 1200 words, a little story
00:25  * Lucifer_arma got bit by a muse last night
00:27 <epsy> #lastseen 1200
00:27 <armabot> epsy: 1200 has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 hours 32 minutes ago.
00:27 <epsy> sorry
00:27 <epsy> weird things coming out of my head
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen weird things
00:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
00:28 <GodTodd> edit what? :P
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> short story :)
00:28  * GodTodd looks for a short story
00:28 <GodTodd> nope don't see one :P
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:29 <GodTodd> need to flesh it out a bit ;)
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> check your pants?
00:29 <GodTodd> no that's a short *sausage* :)
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> can you take files here?
00:29  * Lucifer_arma wonders if he's setup right still to send files
00:29 <GodTodd> dunno...how would i accept it?
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> you should have gotten a new tab that says DCC Status
00:31  * ct|kyle cannot get bootsrtap.sh to work
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> you can use txt2tags comments to make comments in it :)
00:31 <GodTodd> ah...k...received it :)
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: did you try typing "bootstrap.sh" instead?
00:32 <GodTodd> try boobtraps.sh
00:32 <ct|kyle> lol yes typo in what i said
00:32 <ct|kyle> i get this error
00:32 <ct|kyle> configure:1497: error: possibly undefined macro: _AC_SRCPATHS
00:32 <ct|kyle>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
00:32 <ct|kyle>       See the Autoconf documentation.
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> eek
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> I hate that error
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> you're running from the trunk?
00:32 <epsy> don't worry it does too
00:33 <ct|kyle> that is what i use  but this is
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, from a tarball?
00:33 <ct|kyle> yes
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> or checkout from svn?
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, from a tarball, you don't run bootstrap.sh at all
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> you run configure
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> bootstrap.sh is only for svn checkouts
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> and that error is fixed in the 0.2.8 branch, so if you want to run from the 0.2.8 branch, you'll need to use the branch itself, not one of the tags
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> you might need to delete the directory and uncompress the tarball again if you've accidentally overwritten configure or any of the other build files
00:35 <ct|kyle> i want to install it into a directory to make some recordings using that
00:36 <epsy> (why not removing bootstrap.sh from the TB then ?)
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: why bother?  Besides, if someone does want to add new build files or whatever, they'll need bootstrap.sh in the tarball
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's not just needed for most builds, it's only needed for someone who wants to change the build system somehow
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> in which case you need to rerun bootstrap.sh.  :)
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> if that were the case here, I'd direct him to the 0.2.8 branch again because that bug is fixed there
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> the bug is not really a bug, so much as autoconf removing a deprecated behavior we had been using before
00:39 <ct|kyle> see i want to use your current release to make recordings so the majority of the players can view them
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> right, you don't want to run bootstrap.sh then, you just want to run configure
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> ./configure --prefix=wherever
00:39 <ct|kyle> configure won't work
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
00:40 <ct|kyle> no suck file or directory
00:40 <ct|kyle> such*
00:40 <ct|kyle> my typing is bad tonight
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> where did you get a tarball that doesn't have configure in it?
00:41 <ct|kyle> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:41  * Lucifer_arma is skeptical, and doesn't feel like downloading it right now
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> you should try the .tar.gz tarball then, I've built that one and know it works
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> but there shouldn't be a difference
00:42 <ct|kyle> link
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> either you a) have to delete the directory you're working in and start over (becasue running bootstrap.sh could result in the old configure script being removed/corrupted)
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> b) got a broken download and need to try again
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> or c) I forgot what I was going to put here
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, oops
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-
00:44 <ct|kyle> A)tried b)possibly c)i forget what you said
00:50 <ct|kyle> Lucifer_arma: thanks
00:50 <ct|kyle> must have been a broken download
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> man, these statics problems just got long :(
00:57 <ct|kyle> statics?
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'm 2/3 of a page full and only just now finishing setting up the equations, and it's a system of 3 equations I'm setting up to solve for 3 unknowns
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, statics
00:58 <ct|kyle> 3 unknowns those are fun ones.
01:00 <ct|kyle> will visual C++ be similar to armagetron's code?
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01:01 <Lucifer_arma> no, visual C++ is written by microsoft and is therefore crappy
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> armagetron is not, they will be quite different :)
01:01 <ct|kyle> that is what i thought
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> actually, that's a cheeky answer
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't understand the question
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> are you asking "Can I use visual c++ to edit armagetron's code?"
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, my 3 equations with 3 unknowns just boiled into an easy problem
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> the x equilibrium equation yielded one of my unknowns immediately :)
01:02 <ct|kyle> ah
01:03 <ct|kyle> no my college sucks and is changing from teaching c++ to visual C++
01:04 <ct|kyle> right now all my computer classes need Microsoft windows
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> ah
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> you'll still be learning c++ either way, so I wouldn't sweat it too badly
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> there is a way to edit visual c++ project files directly, but you might consider checking out bakefile
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> for small projects, you could use it to generate vc++ project files and your instructors need not care what compiler you use
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> but you might want to have a way to test them, like an installation of vc++ in a virtual machine or something
01:06 <ct|kyle> ah
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> there are occasional differences in how microsoft interprets the c++ standards compared to how gnu does
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if tey intend to teach Microsoft APIs, you're fucked
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> you could try running it under wine :)
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> (and then your app under wine)
01:07 <ct|kyle> no it needs .net framework
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> mono?  :)
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'd check out bakefile, but it's not terribly well documented
01:07 <ct|kyle> right now i'm using visual basic 6
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> CMake might generate project files
01:08 <ct|kyle> mono does not work for that
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> er, cmake might general vc++ project files
01:08 <ct|kyle> mono may work for visual c++ .net
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> also, it depends on how they intend you to turn in the assignments
01:08 <ct|kyle> ya
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> if they just want you to print up a source code listing, then who gives a shit what program you use?  ;)
01:09 <ct|kyle> if i have the same professor it will just be the source code
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> but if you're supposed to turn in a zip archive with the whole project in it, you'll need some way to generate project files for the instructor
01:10 <ct|kyle> the used to have a linux operating systems class. they don't offer that anymore
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> you could explore an scons-based option.  scons is reasonably well-documented and you could quickly work up boilerplate stuff, but if the class specifies VC++ and you say "install python to build this", you could get in trouble
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> must have gotten some pressure from somewhere
01:11 <ct|kyle> ya
01:12 <ct|kyle> i finally got proof for a theory about Microsoft that i made years ago
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I feel cheated by this problem
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> one equation had only one unknown.  The next equation had two, but one of them was in the first equation.  The last equation also only had 2, and one of them was known by the time I got to it
01:14 <ct|kyle> wow
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I can look on the bright side, my answer's wrong
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> 1031 N and I got 669 N
01:14 <ct|kyle> just a little off
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it's a lot of work just to setup the problem, and I have to back through the whole setup and make sure it's right :(
01:15 <ct|kyle> wow
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> probably screwed up an axis somewhere, simple mistake, easy fix, once I find it
01:15  * Lucifer_arma is hungry
01:16 <ct|kyle> i was trying to figure this out
01:16 <ct|kyle> If Microsoft Word is available, use the System Info button to analyze the computer you typically use. Provide the results of the analysis along with a brief description of the computer you tested and its location (at home, at work, in a computer lab, and so on.)
01:17 <ct|kyle> i figured i did not have to do that one
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> Uptime: 3 days, 5 hours and 22 minutes
01:25 <ct|kyle> now i can record for most people and play on my trunk build
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I screwed up the very last equation
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I am, however, impressed that I made no mistakes early in the problem :)
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> but in the last equation, for one of the vectors I used its unit vector component, not the vector magnitude * unit vector component :(
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01:29 <Vanhayes> ok, so, does anyone know where the monitor settings are in windows xp?
01:30 <Vanhayes> because having my monitor rotated 90 degrees to the right isnt that fun anymore
01:33 <ct|kyle> CTRL = SHIFT + up arrow
01:33 <ct|kyle> CTRL + SHIFT + up arrow
01:33 <ct|kyle> that should fix it
01:34  * ct|kyle made a program to rotate monitors like that :P
01:35 <Vanhayes> nope, didnt work, must have to set those hot keys
01:36 <ct|kyle> it should be in your video card settings
01:36 <ct|kyle> try right clicking on desktop to get to them
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01:37 <Flex_> hey/greetings
01:37 <ct|kyle> oi Flex_
01:37 <Flex_> hey kyle, sup? :)
01:37 <Vanhayes> ah, nice it was in there, thanks
01:37 <ct|kyle> your welcome
01:37 <Vanhayes> heh, thats alot better
01:37 <ct|kyle> i bet
01:38 <Flex_> what you guys up to..
01:38 <Vanhayes> last night for some reason it just flip on me, i was so confused
01:38 <ct|kyle> if you want to bind those keys i'll send you a program :P
01:38 <Vanhayes> ah ok, the hot key is ctrl+alt+ arrow keys
01:38 <Vanhayes> I must have hit those by accident
01:39 <ct|kyle> o ctrl alt not ctrl shift
01:39 <ct|kyle> its been a while since i used that
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03:08 <Lucifer_arma> so, on an inclined plane, I have a block
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I have broken it's weight into two components, one perpendicular to the plane and one parallel
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's an equilibrium problem, so I'm going to do net force = 0
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I have the force of the block going into the plane, and the normal force, which are equal and opposite
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> do I have to include those two forces that oppose each other equally in the equilibrium equation?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> (s)
03:19 <Khalsa> yes
03:20 <Khalsa> because in more advanced equations you can use those forces for functions that make you're life much easier
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well, here the problem is a guy on an inclined plane of ice suspended by two ropes
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> his weight is given, what's the tension on the ropes (it's 3 dimensions)
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> I have a suspicion that leaving those forces out has thrown off my equations, so rather than restart and add those forces, I'm moving to the next problem
03:26 <Lucifer_arma> I only need to finish one more problem tonight, then I'll have 2 to do for tomorrow, and the homework is due on Monday
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> soon as I finish one more problem, I can study chemistry for awhile :)
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> (or government, or something else)
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, on the ice man problem, I came up with one rope tension being negative, which is clearly a wrong answer
03:30 <Khalsa> not neccesarily
03:30 <Khalsa> unless you mean actually negative and not x in the "negative" direction
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> tensions are set up as magnitudes
03:30 <Lucifer_arma> no, not in any negative direction.  :)  3 dimensions, you need more than +- to give direction ;)
03:31 <Khalsa> hence the ""
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> I doublechecked all my signs, and I'm confident those are right, which indicates I probably left something out
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> since I *know* I left two forces out....
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> see?  ;)
03:32 <Khalsa> so do it again with those forces
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, later, maybe tomorrow, when I'll only have two problems left
03:34 <Khalsa> physics 1?
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> heh, no
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> statics
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> course title is "Vector Mechanics - Statics"
03:37 <Khalsa> interesting
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> forces on rigid bodies at equilibrium
03:37 <Khalsa> sounds like a highschool physics problem to me
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> chapter 2, the class just started :)
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> we're mostly reviewing engineering physics 1 right now, making sure we all know how to work with vectors and stuff
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> next chapter we'll be doing the cross/dot products again
03:38 <Khalsa> weeeee fun
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> and the problems aren't phrased as regular physics problems, now they're "engineering" problems, which mostly just affects how they're worded
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> once you cut through the technobabble and draw the free body diagram, you're back to engineering physics :)
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> (here we don't do more than 2 dimensions in anything lower than engineering physics)
03:45 <Khalsa> I miss doing free body diagrams
03:45 <Khalsa> I'm stuck in bullshit classes now
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> business major?
03:46 <Khalsa> it's a complicated and long story
03:47 <Khalsa> but long story short, I was a physics engineering major, did most of the physics and math classes, none of the bs classes (english, govt, etc.)
03:47 <Khalsa> and now i'm changing majors to something like General Businness Admin
03:47 <Khalsa> but i'm still on track for a physics/math degree
03:47 <Khalsa> at 2 schools
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops, I guess
03:48 <Khalsa> so now i'm stuck doing those classes I didnt do (history, govt, english)
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> I've only got one pure physics class left, at least, only one class left that's classified physics
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> the rest are engineering, either generic engineering, or aerospace engineering
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> still doing bullshit classes, but I should finish most of them this semester, with only a couple for next semester
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> and I should graduate with an AS in Engineering next spring, before i transfer for the BS in Aerospace Engineering I'm after
03:49 <Khalsa> I liked the physics classes, but couldn't stand the engineering classes
03:50 <Khalsa> which is why i'm no longer doing anything engineeringy
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> too boring?  too hard?  Or just discovered it's not your style after all?
03:51 <Khalsa> not my style, too boring, and I that technical writing/drawing class kicked my ass
03:51 <Khalsa> I cant write strait if my life depended on it
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I thought the drafting class was the easiest class ever
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you had to draw on paper for the whole thing?
03:51 <Khalsa> pretty much
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> man, we did a week of paper drawing, and then dived into autocad
03:51 <Khalsa> only last couple weeks was autocad
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, my school does have one of the highest ranked drafting programs in the state :)
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> (it might be the highest, I don't really know)
03:55 <Khalsa> I still have bad memories from that drafting class
03:55 <Khalsa> only number I ever drew correctly was '3'
03:59 <ct|kyle> Khalsa: lol  /me hates drafting
03:59 <Khalsa> >.<
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> come down here and take it :)
04:01 <Khalsa> where is here?
04:01 <ct|kyle> I'll cad it but not hand draft it
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.austincc.edu/cad/index.php
04:08 <ct|kyle> those are easy cad pictures try making a super-mileage car :P
04:08 <ct|kyle> and engine
04:10 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: techincally i'd be "coming up" >_>
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> not my fault you live in the gutter
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> ack, well, as long as your normal force points mostly up, relative elevation doesn't matter ;)
04:12 <ct|kyle> nice my recording worked
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> ct|kyle: not with a 2-year degree, you won't ;P
04:14 <ct|kyle> won't waht?
04:14 <ct|kyle> what*
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> [21:08] <ct|kyle> those are easy cad pictures try making a super-mileage car :P
04:16 <ct|kyle> i only had 2 years of cad class
04:17 <ct|kyle> then the year of digital electronics messed up my cad skills
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://media.www.utdmercury.com/media/storage/paper691/news/2007/09/04/News/New-Law.Limits.Class.Withdrawals-2951317.shtml
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's one case where the law doesn't apply to me :)
04:26 <ct|kyle> heh
04:26 <ct|kyle> that is a stupid law
04:32 <luke-jr> my daughter is crazy
04:32 <luke-jr> "Go to mama!" "Yes" (still standing there)
04:34 <ct|kyle> lol
04:34 <ct|kyle> she want you to take her there
04:41 <Vanhayes> she thinks you are her mother obviously luke-jr
04:52 <GodTodd> that's what homeschooling gets ya
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04:57 <Stewie-arma> herro
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05:09  * Lucifer_arma sneezes
05:11 <Stewie-arma> are you allergic to me?
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:15 <Stewie-arma> darn another person...
05:15 <Stewie-arma> that's 3 today
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, that was an easier problem that I expected, for some reason
05:16 <Stewie-arma> even I'm allergic to myself
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> means I'm done with statics for today :)
05:16 <Stewie-arma> I still have to do my math for the weekend
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: look on the bright side.  If you have 7 consecutive sneezes, you'll have an orgasm
05:16 <Stewie-arma> good thing it's only a page and a half
05:16 <Stewie-arma> orly?
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my statics problems are reaching a page and a half in length
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> actually, only one page so far, but I just know they'll get longer later
05:17 <Stewie-arma> I had one problem that took almost two pages
05:17 <Stewie-arma> it had about 8 different stages to get the final answer (with 8-14 steps in each stage)
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, these problems can vary in how much room they take by how you draw, but I tend to draw large drawings because they're clearer
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> what class is it?
05:18 <Stewie-arma> well I'm supposed to be taking geometry...
05:18 <Stewie-arma> but I skipped it
05:18 <Stewie-arma> so I'm taking pre-calc (or so it's supposed to be)
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05:19 <Stewie-arma> but it's to easy for pre-calc
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember pre-cal problems being very long
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, precal isn't hard, it's just an intensive algebra-based study of functions
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> my high school precal class also did hyperbolas, ellipses, and some of the others, because those come back to haunt you in vector calculus
05:20 <Stewie-arma> I started to do some vectors but just basic stuff
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> vectors are one of those things that seems hard when you first work with them, but after you get comfortable with them, they're almost easier than integers
05:21 <Khalsa> who here does vector calculations?
05:21 <Stewie-arma> it doesn't take that long to get used to the basic stuff either, I didn't even recognize it as a vector at first ^.^
05:22 <Khalsa> http://xkcd.com/199/ <-- dont forget the tool tip ^_^
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, we've dispensed with the angle bracket notation entirely in my statics class and are using i,j,k vectors now
05:23 <Stewie-arma> sounds fun
05:24 <Stewie-arma> luckily I had my other friend (only the two of us skipped geometry) to show me how vectors worked and how to solve for certain things
05:24 <Stewie-arma> even though I disproved one of his ways...
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> have you done any trig?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only thing you might really lose from geometry, other than the proofs (which were fun :)  )
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> in my high school math progression, we covered trig pretty well in algebra 2
05:26 <Stewie-arma> yeah I did trig
05:26 <Stewie-arma> last year
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but we didn't have a separate trig class, the trig material was divided into algebra 2, geometry, and precal
05:26 <Stewie-arma> it helps in a lot of the stuff
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, you need it for vectors :)
05:26 <Stewie-arma> exactly
05:26 <Stewie-arma> lol I skipped algebra 1 altogether
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, precal is basically the study of the main function types, so there's a whole unit on trig functions
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> then there's logarithms, exponentials, polynomials, seems like I'm forgetting one
05:27 <Stewie-arma> matricies?
05:27 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, radicals, at least one other
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> you need matrices for a vector operation, actually
05:28 <Stewie-arma> did you think I was joking?
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> about what?
05:28 <Stewie-arma> well I said matricies, and you said that I need matricies, actually, so it seemed like you thought I was joking
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, no, telling you what you need it for :)
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> there's other stuff matrices are useful for, like solving really fucked up polynomial equations
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> but you must have them to do the cross product
05:30 <Stewie-arma> the only thing that screws me over is non-euclidean geometry
05:30 <Stewie-arma> LOL
05:31 <Stewie-arma> I'm laughing at Code's poll for trying to get into sp
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't he have his own klan?
05:31 <Stewie-arma> yeah... he abandoned it
05:32 <Stewie-arma> he's made like 4 or 5 of them
05:32 <Stewie-arma> abandoned them all
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> man, he's starting to remind me, more than anything else, of that 12yo kid that sat in the back of the room and said "look at me!  I'm a person!  I want friends!"
05:32 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:33 <Stewie-arma> people that just say I want friends really bug me... GO FUCKING GET SOME THEN DAMN!
05:33 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse then I feel bad for them and help them on it
05:34 <Stewie-arma> unless ofcourse they pissed me off in another way
05:34 <Stewie-arma> then I make sure they make none lol
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> you're a real role model
05:35 <Stewie-arma> I know
05:35 <Stewie-arma> ^.^
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> "Asterisks are used to denote the more challenging exercises"
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that means I should only do the ones with stars next to them
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> because the ones without stars are boring me to tears
05:36  * Lucifer_arma is doing chemistry now
05:37 <Stewie-arma> lol I'm taking chem too
05:37 <Stewie-arma> but haven't done much yet
05:37 <Stewie-arma> just learned the vocab
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> chemistry's annoying
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't take it if I didn't have to
05:38 <Stewie-arma> and done some paper chromatography...
05:38 <Stewie-arma> what do you have to take it for?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that was our lab yesterday
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's a prereq for mechanics of solids
05:38 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> which is in turn a prereq for an AE-specific materials class
05:38 <Stewie-arma> which is a prereq for another thing ofcourse
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I think it ends there
05:39 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:39 <Stewie-arma> that's no fun
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> the chem branch isn't long
05:39 <Stewie-arma> except for biochem
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's the straight chem branch I have, those classes are prereqs for other classes, I think
05:39 <Stewie-arma> well that is still not that long, just has a bunch of different branches
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> structural dynamics comes to mind
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> here, I'll give you a flowchart
05:39 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ae.utexas.edu/aerospaceUndergrad/CurriculumPrerqFlowChart.pdf
05:41 <Stewie-arma> looks like fun
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ae.utexas.edu/aerospaceUndergrad/SuggestedArrangementofCourses.pdf  <--- to decipher the course numbers
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> I think CH 301 is the chemistry class I'm in (I'm at a community college, and those are for my current target 4 year university)
05:42 <Stewie-arma> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/294168009_b25decaddf.jpg
05:42 <Stewie-arma> another flowchart for you
05:43 <Stewie-arma> so you're just taking the principles of chem?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's all I need :)
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, they say "principles of chem", but it is a college level chemistry class that requires high school chemistry
05:44 <Stewie-arma> what career are you looking for?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> look at the top of that flowchart :)
05:45 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:45 <Stewie-arma> how did I miss that?
05:46 <Stewie-arma> you better get yo self a c or higher!
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, it's not that simple
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> that's required for the degree, but I have to get into the college first
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> and if C's are all I have to offer, I ain't getting in
05:49 <Stewie-arma> good thing I'm getting all A's except Mandarin, and that's only cause the teacher hates me
05:50 <Stewie-arma> I made one joke in the middle of class and she lowered my grade by 10 points
05:53 <Stewie-arma> so now I have an 88 -.-
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> show her your young cock and she'll raise your grade back up
05:54 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, you forget that I'm Catholic again?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you're not the lds punk?
05:55  * Lucifer_arma doesn't keep track of people's clan affiliations
05:56 <Stewie-arma> lol
05:56  * Stewie-arma tries to but can't
05:57 <Stewie-arma> lds?
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> latter-day saints
05:59 <Stewie-arma> awww
05:59 <Stewie-arma> blech mormons lol
06:00 <Stewie-arma> who was the mormon punk?
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't much difference between one religious punk and another
06:01 <Stewie-arma> it's true
06:01 <Stewie-arma> they all think theirs is the right one
06:01 <Stewie-arma> and don't listen to the other peoples
06:02 <Stewie-arma> would you count atheism a religion?
06:02 <Stewie-arma> I would say it is a belief but not a religion
06:03 <Stewie-arma> yay for answering my own questions right after I ask them -.-
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> would you say an empty pail contains water?
06:04 <Stewie-arma> well everything contains water, it just might not be visible (water vapor) (humidity)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> would you say an empty pail in orbit contains water?
06:04 <Stewie-arma> orbit around what?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> ("in orbit" by itself always means "in orbit around the planet we're mutually occupying")
06:05 <Stewie-arma> since when?
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> since before you were born
06:05 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:05 <Stewie-arma> but then I would say no
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> atheism is not a belief any more than 0 is a magnitude
06:07 <Stewie-arma> why wouldn't it be a belief?
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> question doesn't make sense
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> ask instead "what do atheists believe?"
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> and strike out any answer that begins with "Atheists don't believe in ..."
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06:09 <Stewie-arma> Atheists believe in the absence of a god or high power than a living thing... (worded weird I know)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's not just worded weird, it's patently false
06:09 <Stewie-arma> hey /dev/null
06:09 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> atheists typically don't "believe in the absense of a god"
06:09 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse it is
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06:10 <Stewie-arma> why not?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> more like "atheism is the absence of religion, and only has meaning in a world that has religion"
06:10 <Stewie-arma> hmmm
06:10 <Stewie-arma> then what makes an atheist?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> atheists don't actively disbelieve in god on the whole, although some individuals certainly do
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> think of atheism as a convenient answer to the following series of questions:
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> "Are you a catholic?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Are you pentecostal?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Do you go to church?"  "no"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> "Then what are you?"
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> here you can say "I don't have a religion", in which case you'll be called a Nothing Person
06:11 <Stewie-arma> naw you see there, you are not including every other religion
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> or you can say "I'm an Atheist", in which case you've made something out of nothing
06:12 <Stewie-arma> *coughs* making something out of nothing is impossible(except for god)*ends cough*
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just did it
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I guess your faith is more believable than what you can actually see
06:12 <Stewie-arma> no you see you made a word of an idea
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever asked someone if they were "nothing" when they told you they didn't have a religion?
06:13 <Stewie-arma> no because "nothing" isn't a belief
06:13 <Stewie-arma> it is the absence of everything
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what's the difference between an atheist and a buddhist?
06:14 <GodTodd> statues with big fat bellies?
06:14 <GodTodd> :)
06:14 <Stewie-arma> buddhist believe and follow the teachings of buddha, atheists do not
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> what are the teachings of buddha?
06:14 <Stewie-arma> I don't know I'm not buddhist
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's a shame, because the only practical difference between the two is that atheists eat meat :)
06:15 <Stewie-arma> no I haven't
06:15 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> buddha's teachings are atheistic (when placed in a modern context), and the only real difference then is that buddhism is a highly advanced philosophy, whereas most atheists are still groping in that general direction
06:15 <GodTodd> i ate a meatball soup with buddhist monks :P
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> buddhism is like linux, it's been localized everywhere
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> kinda neat that way
06:16 <GodTodd> yep
06:16 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma a lot of the atheists I meet don't exactly have a logical reason not to believe, all they say is "because I don't"
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> you don't understand
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> you don't need a logical reason *not* to believe
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> lack of belief is what you have when there's a lack of proof
06:17 <Stewie-arma> they why do you need a logical reason to believe?
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> since there's a lack of proof, then the natural state is to have a lack of belief
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> because you need to have reason to move from the natural state to the unnatural state
06:17 <GodTodd> well....thing is...a lot of people follow the logical approach of disbelieve until the believers prove you're wrong...
06:17 <Stewie-arma> then why do many courts base their rulings on intuitions?
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> babies are born without religion, think about that
06:18 <GodTodd> not intuitions....opinions
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't use law as a measurement of logic, really
06:18 <GodTodd> based on logic and common sense
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> never, in fact
06:18 <Stewie-arma> babies are born with out the knowledge of religion, but most times they are born with a religion forced upon them
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> considering how many people are wrongly convicted :)
06:18 <GodTodd> theoretically :)
06:18 <GodTodd> no...the knowledge is forced on them
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06:18 <GodTodd> you cannot force religion
06:18 <GodTodd> which xtians need to realize one day
06:19 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:19 <Stewie-arma> you obviously don't know the meaning of the new testament then (atleast the end)
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> babies are born wtihout religion, and over time will either develop some weird beliefs on their own, will adopt whatever silly things you tell them, or will learn how the world really works to whatever etent they're capable of
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> you mean the part that was only included for political reasons?
06:20 <Stewie-arma> no
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> for which there is extensive documentation to support....
06:20 <Stewie-arma> woops
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> (the political thing)
06:20 <Stewie-arma> I meant the end of the gospels
06:20 <GodTodd> why not talk about all the stuff taken *out* of the bible
06:20 <GodTodd> because it was too "pagan"
06:20 <GodTodd> :)
06:20 <Stewie-arma> GodTodd because that wasn't decided by me
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> and all of the manuscripts that were intentionally locked up in the vatican so nobody would ever think there was anything else
06:21 <Stewie-arma> we're getting off the "christians need to learn to not force religion on people" topic
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's also ignoring corruptions introduced in the KJV, the most standardized english translation of the bible, for the purpose of reinforcing divine right of kings
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> we were never on that topic, we were on the topic of why proof is required to adopt religion, not the other way around
06:22 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you missed the part after hayes left then
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> when you ask "Why don't you believe in God?", you're asking the question backwards
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06:22 <Stewie-arma> why doesn't god believe in you?
06:22 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I don't believe in god because I was born without such a belief, and I've never seen or experienced anything to make me think there's some all-powerful God controlling my destiny
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's all a bunch of tricks and nonsense
06:23 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: You told me to just leave you a message so here: When can we talk? #m me back (or since you're right there just say something), I'll be waiting
06:23 <Durka> :D
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: ping
06:23 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: pong
06:23 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer_arma, I had one of those moments exactly a year and a month ago
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> Hye Durka, what color are the clouds over your head?
06:23 <Durka> uh, pink?
06:24 <Stewie-arma> which converted me to Catholicism.
06:24 <Durka> :S
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: the hairs growing down there are perfectly natural and normal, there's no god making that happen
06:24 <Stewie-arma> I use to be Agnostic
06:24 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:24 <Stewie-arma> Luci you are funny
06:24 <Stewie-arma> better put that one in the quotes book
06:25 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer since when does puberty start at age 14?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> you are aware that people develop at different rates, right?
06:25 <Stewie-arma> that is true
06:26 <Stewie-arma> but most often it begins at what 12?
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, puberty starts before the hairs start growing down there
06:26 <Stewie-arma> and lowering each yeah
06:26 <Stewie-arma> year
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> it can't be both "most often starting at 12" and "lowering each year"
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> there's a lack of critical thinking in there somewhere
06:26 <Stewie-arma> stop making me think
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> because when I was a kid, the average starting age was 11
06:26 <Stewie-arma> damn it lucifer this is the week end
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> I know of no counting system where 11 -> 12 is a lowering value
06:26 <Stewie-arma> and by week end I mean weekend
06:27 <Stewie-arma> well I didn't know exactly
06:27 <Stewie-arma> I was estimating
06:27 <Stewie-arma> or guessing
06:27 <Stewie-arma> you choose
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> my wife did meet someone a couple of years ago who's first grade daughter had started puberty
06:27 <Stewie-arma> well now that's interesting
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> it's not that it's lowering, so much as being forced early by all the HGH in the food supply
06:28 <Durka> o_O
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> basically, if you feed your kids all the crap food that you can, they'll start puberty early
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> but if you feed them well, no problems :)
06:28 <Stewie-arma> and they will also get fat
06:28 <Stewie-arma> ;P
06:28 <Stewie-arma> Durka come join our discussion
06:28 <Durka> not atm
06:29 <Stewie-arma> but you hit puberty at a late age we need you in this discussion
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> I need to develop a more positive attitude about my chem class
06:30 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer the only way to do that is by taking a positive initiative in that class...
06:30 <Stewie-arma> or so I have noticed
06:30 <Durka> Stewie-arma: ???
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> what language is that in?
06:31 <Stewie-arma> nothing Durka....
06:31 <Durka> :P
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> "taking a positive initiative"...
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> could you say that without the feel of corporate speak?
06:31 <Durka> taking positive initiative a *
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> positive taking a initiative *
06:32 <Durka> xD
06:32 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer could you not be so stupid?
06:32 <Stewie-arma> and by stupid I mean
06:32 <Stewie-arma> such a smart ass
06:32 <Stewie-arma> yes I said your ass was smart har har
06:32  * Lucifer_arma considers how to answer that
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> oh nvm.  If you're going to insist on saying things that don't make sense, I can always just /ignore you
06:33 <Stewie-arma> yeah that's right run away
06:33 <Stewie-arma> lol
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  you're the one running away.  I asked for clarification and you got all defensive
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> still haven't provided the clarification
06:33 <Stewie-arma> what when?
06:33 <Stewie-arma> for what?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> probably because you can't.  You're just spewing nonsense you've been told and don't understand
06:34 <Stewie-arma> now you're confusing me
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then pay attention
06:34 <Stewie-arma> I can't
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I asked you to clarify "taking a positive initiative"
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you gave me abuse
06:34 <Stewie-arma> oh I'm sorry I took the "corporate speak" as an insult
06:34 <Stewie-arma> don't know why
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you use corporate speak, you shouldn't be surprised when someone says you have used it :)
06:35 <Stewie-arma> well I wasn't trying to use it
06:35 <Stewie-arma> that's the only way I could explain it
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> near as I can tell, the phrase is meaningless
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> but it sure sounds good
06:35 <Stewie-arma> do you not understand what initiative means?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #dict initiative
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Initiative \In*i"ti*a*tive\, a. [Cf. F. initiatif.] Serving to initiate; inceptive; initiatory; introductory; preliminary. [1913 Webster]; bouvier: INITIATIVE, French law. The name given to the important prerogative given by the charte constitutionelle, art. 16, to the late king to propose through his ministers projects of (10 more messages)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's a sucky entry
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> there we go
06:36 <Stewie-arma> yeah it is
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> wait, let's see if there's something more useful
06:36 <Stewie-arma> there are 10 more messages
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: laws. 1 Toull. n. 39. See Veto; wn: initiative adj : serving to set in motion; "the magazine's inaugural issue"; "the initiative phase in the negotiations"; "an initiatory step toward a treaty"; "his first (or maiden) speech in Congress"; "the liner's maiden voyage" [syn: {inaugural}, {initiatory}, {first}, {maiden}] n 1: readiness to embark on bold new ventures [syn: {enterprise}, (9 more messages)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, much better
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> #more
06:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: {enterprisingness}, {go-ahead}] 2: the first of a series of actions; "he memorized all the important chess openings" [syn: {first step}, {opening move}, {opening}]; gcide: Initiative \In*i"ti*a*tive\, n. [Cf. F. initiative.] 1. An introductory step or movement; an act which originates or begins. [1913 Webster] The undeveloped initiatives of good things to come. --I. Taylor. [1913 (8 more messages)
06:37 <Stewie-arma> there we go
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> now, how does "positive" modify initiative?
06:37 <Stewie-arma> taking a positive introductory step?
06:37 <Stewie-arma> take things step by step maybe?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I can go with that, but two weeks into the class I've already taken several steps that have all been positive
06:38 <Stewie-arma> well I didn't get that from what you said
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> except for the one where I didn't notice where the recommended practice problems were, but now I'm caught up with where I should be for yesterday
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> well of course not, I don't like chemistry :)
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> but I never approach a class with "I'm going to hate this class"
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I downright dislike chemistry
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> hate is too strong a word
06:39 <Stewie-arma> "I need to develop a more positive attitude about my chem class" makes it seem like you haven't tried tho
06:39 <Stewie-arma> and by tho I mean yet
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm getting hopelessly pedantic, but "more positive attitude" is a relative statement
06:40 <Stewie-arma> well you said it not me
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> my attitude right now, in case you're wondering, is "this is a very easy class, I've taken enough math and physics to render this class largely boring and rote stuff, so I should get an easy A, all I have to do is show up and study"
06:40 <Stewie-arma> awww
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> now, if I were interested in chemistry, that'd be a really bad attitude
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if I let it take over and just blew off the class entirely, that'd be really bad too
06:41 <Stewie-arma> so just get it over with
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe I still have a bad attitude, I'm just actually trying to get a good grade anyway
06:41 <Stewie-arma> it's only a 3 month course is it not?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> I have to get an A.  I dropped the class the first time I took it because I was only getting a C, and I didn't really like the teacher
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> then I found out that when UT looks over my transcript, they average in withdrawals as F's
06:42 <Stewie-arma> oh snap
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so I have to get an A now to balance it out to what I would have gotten if I had stayed in it before
06:42 <Khalsa> man i'ts so much work to make arma cfg's
06:42 <Khalsa> good*
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> so you see, my attitude about this class is much more complex than it appears on the surface :)
06:43 <Stewie-arma> well maybe if you had said that in the first place...
06:43 <Stewie-arma> you wouldn't have been attacked
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll put up all my baggage up front for you so you can check it :)
06:43 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa: most things that are good are hard to make
06:43 <Stewie-arma> alright
06:43 <Stewie-arma> I'll check it over lucifer
06:43 <Stewie-arma> wait what's that tiking
06:43 <Durka> #kill Stewie-arma
06:43 <armabot> Stewie-arma will die on 08:03 PM, July 06, 2007 GMT due to being stabbed in the eye by Durka
06:44 <Durka> >:)
06:44 <Stewie-arma> #rape Durka
06:44 <Stewie-arma> tlol
06:44 <Stewie-arma> btw it looks like that has already happened
06:44 <Stewie-arma> to bad I'm still here
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> #jesus luke-jr
06:45 <armabot> Jesus thinks luke-jr is a jerk.
06:45 <Stewie-arma> that's terrible
06:46 <Stewie-arma> <Lucifer_arma> Stewie-arma: the hairs growing down there are perfectly natural and normal, there's no god making that happen
06:46 <Stewie-arma> you lie!
06:46 <Durka> Stewie-arma: type #rape Durka
06:46 <Durka> again
06:46 <Stewie-arma> why?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #rape Durka
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma is a child molestor
06:46 <Durka> XD
06:46 <Stewie-arma> tlol
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:46 <Durka> o_O
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I just realized something
06:46 <Stewie-arma> oh snap!
06:47 <Durka> what
06:47  * Durka waits for the huge response
06:47 <Stewie-arma> don't worry durka, lucifer is just messing with you
06:47 <Stewie-arma> it's nothing to do with us
06:47 <Durka> :(
06:48 <Stewie-arma> he'll fuck with you a lot while you're in here
06:48 <Durka> yea, i'm in here too much
06:48 <Stewie-arma> along with GodTodd
06:48 <Durka> xD
06:48 <Khalsa> Durka: yeah yeah I know I know
06:48 <Durka> Khalsa: o_O
06:49 <Khalsa> but there is a point where lazyness just takes over
06:49 <Stewie-arma> then luke will push religion on you
06:49 <Khalsa> and for me, that point is early >_>
06:49 <Stewie-arma> ??
06:49 <Durka> Stewie-arma (1336)
06:49 <Stewie-arma> Khalsa: wtf you talkin bout?
06:49 <Durka> only 1336 lines in here Stewie-arma :(
06:49 <Stewie-arma> yeah I know
06:49 <Durka> Lucifer_arma	83482
06:49 <Durka> wow
06:49 <Durka> 16	Durka	8680
06:49  * Durka has more than z-man :)
06:49 <Khalsa> uhhh s/Durka/Stewie-arma/
06:50 <Durka> It seems that Dorka's shift-key is hanging: 11.7% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
06:50 <Durka> For example, like this:
06:50 <Durka>      <Dorka> AND I'M 94% DONE
06:50 <Durka> LuciEatsPeople just forgot to deactivate his/her Caps-Lock. He/She wrote UPPERCASE 9.0% of the time.
06:50 <Khalsa> sorry
06:50 <Durka> ROFL
06:50 <Stewie-arma> I haven't been on here many times with in the past 3-4 weeks
06:50 <Stewie-arma> WTF HOW YOU GET THAT?
06:51 <Stewie-arma> IT'S OVER 9000!!!!
06:51 <Stewie-arma> ATLEAST LUCIFER'S IS
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> in the land of the rising sun girlish youth and innocence are considered the pinnacle of sexual attraction. Western society prizes girls who appear less of a child and more of a woman - mature both in body and behaviour - but in Japan the qualities are reversed like a crazy mirror of opposites.
06:52 <Durka> MOAR?!?!
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> http://imperialdoughnut.blogspot.com/2002/07/sailor-schoolgirls-ive-always-found.html
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> that explains luke's love of japanese culture and reconciles it with this:
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> #quote get 21
06:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can only imagine what his wife is like
06:54 <Stewie-arma> Furthermore childish outbursts, pouting, and tantrums are viewed as charmingly erotic
06:56 <Stewie-arma> LOL
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://imperialdoughnut.blogspot.com/2002_07_01_archive.html  <--- the whole post is spread out over several posts on this page
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> you have to scroll down for all of it
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Daddy Mack says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> yeah but I'm sure dancing is in the Bible somewhere
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Mack Daddy says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> thou shall not boogie?
07:13 <Stewie-arma> Daddy Mack says:
07:13 <Stewie-arma> something like that
07:13 <Stewie-arma> HE GOT IT WRONG
07:14 <Stewie-arma> IT'S "thou shalt not boogie"
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> look, if God didn't want people to boogie, he wouldn't have made black people
07:17 <Stewie-arma> didn't you know that he punished them by forcing them to sin?
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> no, he punished them by making white people
07:17 <Stewie-arma> well which came first?
07:17 <Khalsa> man, what is this .REZ file business
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you need to de-.REZ yourself
07:18 <Khalsa> i do
07:18  * Lucifer_arma wonders if the TRON joke made it across in this channel
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07:19 <Khalsa> it did
07:19 <MrBougo> hiho
07:19 <MrBougo> aw, i had this feeling yesterday
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm up to two consecutive sneezes
07:19 <MrBougo> i had a music stuck in my head
07:19 <MrBougo> haha Lucifer_arma
07:19 <Stewie-arma> lucifer only 5 more
07:20 <MrBougo> ive NEVER had such a thing
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: finally found metal?
07:20 <MrBougo> but once my mother had 3
07:20 <MrBougo> huh? metal?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, metal
07:20 <MrBougo> the music?
07:20 <MrBougo> i hate metal :(
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> you know, "Heavy metal is poisoning, it's a toxic wasteland of sex and drugs, sex and drugs"
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
07:20 <MrBougo> so i had this music stuck in my head but no freaking way to remember where it came from
07:21  * Lucifer_arma hopes nobody notices how badly he screwed up the song
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> then you fired up arma and said "Oh, it's *that* song"
07:21 <MrBougo> nah
07:21 <MrBougo> lawl, i use
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> is this story going somewhere interesting?  ;)
07:21 <MrBougo> no
07:21 <MrBougo> and i was worried about how i could find out
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> by playing through the song metnally until you identify it, usually
07:22 <MrBougo> i could stay all my life with that thing in my head, and no way to remember...
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> some of us have that problem regularly :)
07:22 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: that works with songs with lyrics
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it works with songs without lyrics too, provided you don't listen to music that all sounds the same
07:22 <MrBougo> and this one had no lyrics :p
07:23 <MrBougo> nah i don't
07:23 <MrBougo> but i have a bad IDing mind
07:23 <MrBougo> IDing is identofying the track playing :p
07:23 <MrBougo> you know, there are so much weirdo electro tracks, you can't remlember them all
07:23 <MrBougo> anyway... i found out what the track is
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> I could if I wanted to...
07:24 <MrBougo> and now i'm happeh
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't even imagine wanting to listen to electro tracks, let alone trying to remember having ever done so
07:24 <MrBougo> hehe :p
07:26 <MrBougo> who would force you, anyway
07:27 <MrBougo> can i ask you why you've never tried out a bit of electro?
07:27 <MrBougo> i guess it's about some acoustic sounds missing, heh
07:40 <MrBougo> zomg that Deadmau5 guy rocks!
07:40 <MrBougo> err Lucifer_arma are you still here?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: sorta
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how you figure I never "tried out a bit of electro"
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> I ws there when it was invented :)
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> not in the same room or anything...
07:42 <MrBougo> i mean... you've heard some, but not listened to :p
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> Oooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
07:42 <MrBougo> ?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> never heard of yello?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> that's like loving rock and roll but not knowing who the beatles were
07:42 <luke-jr> spidey's domain is expiring today; anyone wanna buy it?
07:42 <Durka> NO
07:42 <MrBougo> hehe
07:43 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: there are prolly many guys not knowing who te beatles were
07:44 <MrBougo> the*
07:44 <MrBougo> i think it makes you sad
07:44 <MrBougo> am i wrong
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:44 <MrBougo> oh :p
07:44 <MrBougo> i didnt know about yello
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> TMBG?
07:45 <MrBougo> either
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> They Might Be Giants?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> you don't know anything about them?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> Man
07:46 <MrBougo> (sorry)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have a birdhouse in your soul
07:46 <MrBougo> ew
07:47 <MrBougo> err thats not my kind of music
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> not to put too fine a point on it
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> say I'm the only bee in your bonnet
08:00 <GodTodd> well...the java program runs with all successes...guess i can call it done :)
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> make a little birdhouse in your soul
08:05 <MrBougo> heh, browsing beatport is like browsing wikipedia
08:05 <MrBougo> clickee, clickee, and you discover many stuff
08:07 <Durka> MrBougo: :D
08:07 <Stewie-arma> Durka: D:
08:07 <MrBougo> :D
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma: :D
08:08 <Stewie-arma> how would you respond to that?
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: ping
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: pong
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: piong
08:08 <Stewie-arma> Stewie-arma: poing
08:09 <MrBougo> MrBougo: hello
08:10 <Stewie-arma> g2g, watching Flight of the Conchords!
08:11 <MrBougo> hehe
08:11 <MrBougo> "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass"
08:12 <Durka> #ping
08:12 <armabot> pong
08:12 <Durka> #pong
08:12 <Durka> =/
08:12 <Durka> #alias add pong echo "ping"
08:13 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
08:13 <Durka> #ping
08:13 <armabot> pong
08:13 <Durka> #pong
08:13 <armabot> ping
08:13 <Durka> #ping
08:13 <armabot> pong
08:13 <Durka> :P
08:13 <MrBougo> #durka
08:13 <armabot> gtfo
08:13 <Durka> :O
08:14 <MrBougo> :o
08:21  * MrBougo is now playing: Deadmau5 - Not Exactly
08:22 <MrBougo> :o
08:25 <MrBougo> omg
08:25 <MrBougo> lemon smash!
08:25 <MrBougo> http://www.addictinggames.com/lemonsmash.html
08:31 <Durka> #MrBougo
08:31 <armabot> MrBougo is French :\/
08:31 <Durka> :P
08:32 <MrBougo> im belgian :/
08:32 <MrBougo> and now youve made me join #mrbougo
08:32 <Stewie-arma> samething
08:35 <Durka> :S
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
08:55 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did you get a chance to read that story?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> no hurry or anything, I'm just curious :)
08:56 <GodTodd> i've glanced at it...haven't had a chance to comment on it yet ;)
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191836#191836
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: that's for you, too :)
09:03 <Durka> PLEASE
09:03 <Durka> delete the link
09:03 <Stewie-arma> ?
09:03 <Stewie-arma> which one?
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> first refresh, or you won't see it
09:04 <Stewie-arma> oh the durkas.info one
09:06 <Stewie-arma> it looks good
09:10 <Durka> -.-
09:10 <Durka> dont share link, seriously
09:10 <Stewie-arma> why?
09:10 <Stewie-arma> what's wrong with it?
09:10 <Durka> it's not done yet
09:10 <Durka> well
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it was my mistake, durka's apparently still building it :)
09:10 <Durka> i could finish it right now i guess
09:10 <Durka> just iframe that wiki page ;)
09:11 <Stewie-arma> all that needs to be done is the master roster
09:11 <Stewie-arma> btw where do you find the season MVP from last season?
09:12 <Stewie-arma> nvm found it
09:12 <Durka> hm, i've never even found that, who was it...fofo?
09:12 <Stewie-arma> tie between fofo and luzifer
09:13 <Stewie-arma> and the rest didn't go through
09:13 <Stewie-arma> that was only round 1 voting
09:13 <Stewie-arma> but round 2 never happened
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I fell down on the job of pushing it through
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> actually, the semester creeped up on me, and personal shit took me away
09:14 <Stewie-arma> good thing durkas on this one
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
09:15 <Stewie-arma> if you need anyhelp you could ask me... but it looks like durka's got it goin
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> but I'll tell you right now, if Durka winds up backing out (he won't), we're fucked
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I won't be able to take over for him if he backs out :/
09:15 <Durka> why would i back out....
09:15  * Lucifer_arma doesn't want to belabor the point, but all of his help backed out over the summer ;P
09:15 <Stewie-arma> you just would damn it
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> I said you wouldn't :)
09:16 <Durka> :D
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> just, you know, maybe a safe will fall on you or something
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> and then we're fucked
09:16 <Durka> yea, THEN we're fucked
09:16 <Stewie-arma> well he would be more fucked then us
09:16 <Durka> unless it has TONS OF $$$$$
09:16 <Durka> $_$
09:16 <Stewie-arma> durka sorry but you would have been dead
09:16 <Durka> btw, if u 2 could subscribe to the mailing list that would be great
09:16 <Stewie-arma> so uhm, yeah durka's dead let's keep the tourney going
09:17 <Durka> -.-
09:17 <Stewie-arma> subscribed
09:17 <Stewie-arma> bleh
09:17 <Stewie-arma> :-P
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh, don't you know my email address?  ;)
09:18 <Durka> meh
09:18 <Stewie-arma> maybe
09:19 <GodTodd> isn't it Lucifer_arma@iamgay.net?
09:19 <GodTodd> :)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's godtodd@likescock.com
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, I think we (I) get a little more vulgar every day
09:21 <GodTodd> dammit...that was my *secret* address :P
09:21 <Durka> ok, now i think the site is done
09:21 <Durka> go tell me if there's anything i missed
09:21 <GodTodd> or is that secrete address...
09:21 <GodTodd> hmmm
09:21 <Durka> i cleared the side tables on the index and the schedule and view results pages, should be complete
09:22 <GodTodd> Durka: yeah you missed the 72 point type proclaiming "Luke-jr is a moronic faggot!" :D
09:22 <Stewie-arma> master roster still not working...
09:22 <Durka> no, it's in their alright
09:22 <Durka> hit refresh stewie
09:22 <Stewie-arma> I did
09:22 <Durka> i replaced it with a link called
09:22 <Durka> Signup!
09:22 <Durka> next to rules
09:22 <Durka> links to the wiki page
09:23 <Durka> do you think people will see the mailing list thingy?
09:23 <Stewie-arma> I guess now it does
09:23 <Durka> where should i put it? :S
09:23  * Durka got ur emails :P
09:23 <Stewie-arma> durka you already had mine
09:24 <Stewie-arma> from the DDL tourney
09:24 <Durka> meh
09:24 <Stewie-arma> I gave you the san.rr.com one right?
09:24 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: where should i put the mailing list thingy?
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> it's fine where it is, but you might put it off to the side where it's pretty much always visible
09:25 <Durka> Stewie-arma: prbarna@san.rr.com
09:25 <Durka> :D
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> that's the sort of thing you want on every page
09:25 <Stewie-arma> alright
09:25 <Durka> ooo, duh!
09:25 <Durka> i know
09:25 <Durka> move the
09:25 <Durka> About the AFL
09:25 <Stewie-arma> over
09:25 <Durka> that's on every page
09:25 <Durka> just put it on the index only
09:26 <Durka> replace that with the mailing list
09:26 <Stewie-arma> but still keep the mailing list on the index
09:26 <Durka> besides, u don't need to KEEP reading the about the afl
09:26 <Durka> it should only be on the index
09:26 <Durka> watch, brb
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> why not?  that's some damn good copy!
09:26 <Stewie-arma> I know what you are doing
09:26 <Durka> xD
09:26 <GodTodd> that copy is lame
09:27 <Stewie-arma> Durka: I've done something like this except for school
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> is not
09:27 <GodTodd> er...lm
09:27 <GodTodd> r smth
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> shut up, beavis
09:27 <GodTodd> no, butthead
09:27 <GodTodd> :P
09:27 <Stewie-arma> what are you butthead luci?
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna kick your ass
09:27 <Stewie-arma> darn Todd beat me to it
09:27 <GodTodd> that'd be cool hehehehe
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah, it would be cool
09:28 <Stewie-arma> eat through your butt
09:28 <Stewie-arma> South Park all over again
09:28  * GodTodd thinks its kinda sad that we remember those lines :/
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> he said "butt"
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> haha
09:28 <Stewie-arma> hahahaha
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> my dauhter still says "Is this a god dam?" whenever we pass a dam
09:28 <Stewie-arma> I don't get it
09:28 <GodTodd> i am the great cornholio
09:28 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:29 <Stewie-arma> that's cute
09:29 <GodTodd> i need tp for my bunghole
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> that's annoying, beavis
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> stop that
09:29 <GodTodd> are you threatening me?
09:29 <Stewie-arma> what if he is?
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't stop that
09:30 <GodTodd> are you threatening me?
09:30 <Stewie-arma> Luci is he pming you shit?
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> uhhhhhhhhhhhh
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> no?
09:30 <Stewie-arma> wait didn't you silence him?
09:30 <GodTodd> no...shit is best delivered fresh and in the lap
09:31 <Durka> k, refresh the index Lucifer_arma
09:31 <Durka> well, any page for that matter
09:31 <Stewie-arma> awww
09:31 <GodTodd> who would silence me?
09:31 <GodTodd> i rule
09:31 <GodTodd> :)
09:31 <Stewie-arma> I will
09:31 <Stewie-arma> right about now...
09:31 <GodTodd> my loss, i'm sure :)
09:31 <Stewie-arma> yay godtodd silenced
09:31 <Stewie-arma> Durka: looks good
09:31 <Stewie-arma> yay for copy pasta
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> looks good to me
09:32 <Durka> w007!
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> you'll probably want to wrap the print version of the signup page in the iframe, though
09:32 <Stewie-arma> W??7
09:32  * GodTodd thinks Stewie-arma didn't get the references we were making cuz it was probably on before he was born...
09:32 <GodTodd> heh
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, I take it back, the printable version is useless
09:33 <Stewie-arma> Durka: you want to put the link in forums now?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> no, he totally didn't get it
09:33 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer yes I did
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> he's like heard the names beavis and butthead before, but totally doesn't know the lingo
09:34 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: I didn't use an iframe, i'm just redirecting it
09:34 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer it is still on fox "FX"
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I saw that
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> he said "fox"
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> he wants me to fox him
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:34 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:34  * GodTodd decides to go emo and cut himself because Stewie-arma "silenced" him
09:34 <GodTodd> :)
09:34 <MrBougo> fox you
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> beavis, go fox yourself
09:34 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer you sick bastard
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna fox him my ass
09:35 <GodTodd> goodbye cruel net.world *melodramatic hand flourish here*
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> up to 3 sneezes
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> Signing up for the Fall Season of the AFL is much easier than before;   <--- of course it's easier than before, it wasn't even possible before!
09:37 <spidey> haha
09:37 <Stewie-arma> hey spidey
09:38 <MrBougo> hiho spidey
09:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, afl server will be down for 2~ weeks
09:38 <MrBougo> hows your domain name spidey
09:38 <spidey> we're moving to a dual core opteron
09:38 <spidey> .net? dun need it
09:38 <spidey> we're at .org now :)
09:38 <Stewie-arma> hmmm wrtl's logs aren't going past 09:08 on 2007-09-15
09:38 <Stewie-arma> for all you americans that is 09-15-2007
09:38 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:38 <spidey> lol
09:39 <Stewie-arma> spidey I woulda thought you were .gov by now
09:39 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_::_Fall_Season_Signup_Page
09:39 <Durka> link added
09:40 <Stewie-arma> Lucifer add it to your post as well
09:40 <Durka> spidey: Is your server availible for the AFL?
09:40 <spidey> |FA| AFL server
09:40 <spidey> or something
09:40 <spidey> anyways
09:40 <Stewie-arma> btw spidey, are the trem servers being restarted or something?
09:40 <spidey> it'll be down for 2 weeks at the end of the month
09:40 <spidey> due to moving servers
09:40 <spidey> Stewie-arma, our host is having problems
09:41 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:41 <spidey> everyone keeps timing out
09:41 <spidey> hence the move :p
09:41 <spidey> they should be up atm though
09:41 <Stewie-arma> love the tremx server ^.^
09:41 <spidey> me to
09:41 <spidey> loved layouts more but it's gone bye-bye :(
09:41 <Stewie-arma> aliens kick ass, lol AIDS IN HUMAN BASE!
09:41 <Stewie-arma> I saw it earlier today some how
09:42 <spidey> layouts
09:42 <spidey> ?
09:42 <Stewie-arma> yeah
09:42 <spidey> or tremx?
09:42 <Stewie-arma> I don't know
09:42 <Stewie-arma> layouts
09:42 <spidey> ...
09:42 <spidey> maybe it was wired
09:42 <Stewie-arma> it was weird
09:42 <spidey> he's using our config for his server
09:42 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:43 <Stewie-arma> why not change the now FA server having the layouts just the different layouts happen less often
09:43 <Stewie-arma> if I could use english
09:43 <spidey> ...
09:43 <spidey> because the clan wanted it to be a regular server :p
09:43 <spidey> anyways
09:44 <Stewie-arma> change the normal server now to have some of the Layouts layouts, but have the layouts happen a lot less often
09:44 <spidey> with this dual opteron we *should* be able to host 3 trem servers
09:44 <Stewie-arma> aww
09:45 <Stewie-arma> the only thing that gets annoying on pushcannon is the humans camping ontop of the chimney
09:45 <spidey> lol
09:46 <Stewie-arma> oh and I got around me not having a two button mouse
09:46 <Stewie-arma> I just set alternate fire to the command button
09:47 <Stewie-arma> holy smokes 13 guests!
09:47 <Durka> spidey: :P
09:47 <Durka> #noob7 Are you alive? :S
09:48 <Stewie-arma> no?
09:48 <Durka> #m noob7 Are you alive? :S
09:48 <spidey> 13 guests?
09:48 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> ?
09:48 <Durka> #m Stewie-arma stfu
09:48 <Stewie-arma> In total there are 15 users online :: 2 Registered, 0 Hidden and 13 Guests   [ Administrator ]   [ Moderator ]
09:48 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> stop that durka
09:48 <Stewie-arma> #m Durka STOP THAT!
09:48 <armabot> Stewie-arma: The operation succeeded.
09:48 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:48 <Durka> =/
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09:49 <Stewie-arma> you deserved it
09:49 <Stewie-arma> hello hang3r
09:49 <Stewie-arma> and now 2 hidden people are on
09:49 <hang3r> Define Hidden.
09:50 <Stewie-arma> on the forums
09:50 <Stewie-arma> damn it durka stop that
09:50 <Durka> XD
09:50 <Durka> <3
09:50 <hang3r> Well you know they're there, so they aren't hidden now are they ;)
09:50 <Durka> wow
09:50 <Durka> Google visits: 320838
09:50 <Durka> wow
09:50 <Stewie-arma> lol
09:51 <Durka> i never knew google knew about my forums :O
09:51 <Stewie-arma> ofcourse it did
09:51 <Stewie-arma> how do you think I found it?
09:51 <Durka> x(
09:51 <Durka> x) *
09:51 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/statistics.php (i always love staring at this page, so interesting :P )
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09:55 <Durka> hi xion
09:55 <Stewie-arma> no it's kidanger
09:55 <Stewie-arma> god durka
09:55 <Stewie-arma> be smarter
09:55 <Durka> -.-
09:55 <Stewie-arma> lol
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10:33 <Durka> MaZuffeR: !! :)
10:34 <MaZuffeR> Durka
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10:34 <Durka> How've you been?
10:34 <MaZuffeR> good
10:35 <epsy> Excellent ?
10:35 <Durka> How's you're break been?
10:35 <MaZuffeR> long :P
10:36 <Durka> epsy: http://durkas.info
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10:36 <epsy> err what?
10:36 <epsy> there will be another 2007 AFL ?
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10:54 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1021/
10:54 <MrBougo> hahaa
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11:28 <MrBougo> bye
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11:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
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12:17 <epsy> #lastseen Monkey
12:17 <armabot> epsy: supermonkeyzoid has last been seen on Norm's Place 1 hour 40 minutes ago.
12:17 <epsy> #lastseen -f Monkey
12:17 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on WILDCAT 3 hours 10 minutes ago.
12:17 <epsy> #lastseen hoop
12:17 <armabot> epsy: hoop seems to be on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo right now.
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14:48 <noob7> #memo Durka kinda
14:48 <noob7> #m Durka kinda
14:48 <armabot> noob7: The operation succeeded.
14:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
15:00 <epsy> #m Durka can i play for 2 teams at once ?
15:00 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
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16:20 <Khalsa> Is the script for the "resource browser" available somewhere?
16:25 <Khalsa> apparently wrtlprnft is the one to ping :-)
16:26 <Khalsa> or unping, as it's in svn, my bad yo
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16:46 <spidey> lol
16:53  * Khalsa should think before typing
16:55  * Khalsa sets up another map mirror
16:56  * spidey mirrored the AA downloads before he started using alot of b/w on other servers
16:57 <spidey> yay
16:57 <spidey> should be able to put up the other 2 tremulous servers by the end of the month :)
16:57 <spidey> i miss our layouts server :(
16:58 <spidey> the layouts where setup basically in a anti-camping way :D
16:59 <spidey> which reminds me
16:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, !
17:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, the server we're hosting for AFL will *probably* be down for a week or 2 max because we will *probably* be moving servers
17:02 <spidey> #night
17:02 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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18:04 <Durka> #m Lucifer_arma I don't know where you went last night, but PLEASE add the link to your post, thanks :D
18:04 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
18:05 <Durka> hi Lackadaisical
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19:31 <Khalsa> Hey guys, if you care I mirrored your resources folder here : http://www.mercenariesguild.net/resources/
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19:54 <epsy> back
19:55 <MrBougo> front
19:56 <epsy> we have a mirror on MG ? oh that's like a crowning :P
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21:09 <Khalsa> yeah but plans to make it like our tremulous mirror epsy
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21:09 <Khalsa> unless our code monkeys decide to start making patches for arma
21:17 <epsy> yea but arma's resource system is not like any other game's ones
21:18 <epsy> brb i'm eating
21:22 <epsy> back
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21:22 <epsy> Khalsa, there are actually serval resource repo's mirrors
21:23 <epsy> and they're all updated when there's a new resource which is uploaded
21:23 <luke-jr> epsy: there are?
21:23 <epsy> there's already a script
21:23 <epsy> i presume
21:23 <luke-jr> 2 != several :)
21:23 <epsy> luke-jr, you are always fighting with wrtlprnft about you're dns's weakness
21:23 <epsy> *your
21:24 <luke-jr> my DNS is fine
21:24 <luke-jr> Khalsa: would you mind being an official repository mirror? :p
21:24 <epsy> it's weakness or it's fineness
21:24 <epsy> who knows :P
21:24 <epsy> i think that's what he minds
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21:37 <Khalsa> luke-jr: not at all
21:38 <Khalsa> luke-jr: what do you need?
21:38 <Khalsa> I'm doing it mainly because your site is so slow for me
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21:48 <epsy> LOL!
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22:48 <hoop_tron> hello there
22:50 <tramshed> yar
23:03 <Khalsa> wrtlprnft or luke-jr around?
23:14 <luke-jr> no
23:14 <luke-jr> Khalsa: there's a wiki page for setting up a mirror
23:15 <Khalsa> OH
23:15 <Khalsa> really then....
23:15 <epsy> heh
23:16 <Khalsa> can I have a mirror number?
23:16 <Stewie-arma> 2]
23:16 <Khalsa> stupid privewer thing not working
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23:17 <Khalsa> 2?
23:17 <Stewie-arma> lol
23:17 <Khalsa> I'll be the only one?
23:18 <Khalsa> other*
23:18 <Stewie-arma> dunno
23:18 <Stewie-arma> how about 73?
23:18 <Stewie-arma> 42?
23:18 <Stewie-arma> look at the wiki
23:19 <Khalsa> i'm not a fan >_>
23:19 <Khalsa> browsing that thing is to painful
23:34 <Stewie-arma> your face is also to painful to browse
23:37 <Khalsa> most likely
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