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00:45 <spidey> is luke-jr going on about that shit still?
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04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:34:40] <luke-jr> http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/cia_hayden_warning/2007/09/07/30766.html?s=al&promo_code=39AB-1, [23:32:47] <luke-jr> http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/, [23:32:33] <luke-jr> http://www.halturnershow.com/ElAlNoFlightsNYC-TelAvivSept14.jpg, [23:32:16] <luke-jr> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070912/D8RJUT003.html, (34 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [23:30:03] <luke-jr> http://debka.com/, [23:28:21] <luke-jr> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html, [23:27:45] <luke-jr> http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf, [23:24:49] <luke-jr> The U.S. Department of Treasury conducting a disaster drill to prepare for a potential economic crisis, [23:24:42] <luke-jr> KSLA reporting that members of clergy (33 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law., [23:23:36] <luke-jr> Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety standdown in  the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear  incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles  armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto  a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, (32 more messages)
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #more
04:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: La., without anyone  on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane., [23:23:19] <luke-jr> On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command  bases. The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing  down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide  safety day., [23:22:57] <luke-jr> The Department of (31 more messages)
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> no, I didn't really want to read any of that
04:53 <Khalsa> thanks Lucifer_arma and luke-jr , servers up and running :-)
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> np
04:54 <Khalsa> now to fix the 1000 settings
04:57 <Khalsa> i wonder if it'd be possible to get the settings from one of these servers I like playing on
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05:14 <spidey> sure
05:14 <spidey> join a server
05:14 <spidey> screenshot all that read stuff that scrolls by
05:14 <spidey> :p
05:15 <spidey> it's not all of them, but it's most
05:15 <Khalsa> oh, good idea
05:15 <spidey> s/read/red
05:16 <Khalsa> heh spidey to bad it's not as simple as trem server :-P
05:17 <spidey> heh
05:17 <spidey> it's actually easier to setup a armagetron server
05:18 <spidey> it took me forever to find even a little documentation on tremulous settings
05:18 <Khalsa> yeah, but there are a ton more settings
05:18 <GodTodd> bush just came by and asked to borrow my portable uranium refiner....is that a bad sign?
05:18 <Khalsa> well, it's probably a good thing the cost of entry for a trem server is higher
05:18 <Khalsa> crappy trem servers can be really crappy
05:19 <Khalsa> (redundency ftw)
05:19 <spidey> so play on others?:P
05:19 <spidey> if someone wants to host a server to play on, or to play with...then they should be able to
05:19 <spidey> which they can
05:19 <Khalsa> well, I just remember the days when there were 14 servers and 12 of them sucked
05:20 <spidey> and now there's 200+ servers and 199.99 suck :D
05:20 <spidey> (including mine -.-)
05:20 <Khalsa> haha
05:21 <spidey> i think i helped the other server admins a bit...
05:21 <spidey> when i ran 4-5, we had like 1/3 atleast, of trem playing them, (around 75-80 at anytime)
05:21 <spidey> and, around 80-83 where assholes
05:21 <spidey> :(
05:22 <Khalsa> yeah, that's why we always kept our servers small and basically just for good friends and smart people
05:22 <Khalsa> having the noob cannon really helped
05:22 <spidey> yea
05:23 <spidey> i think the tremx adv. granger should be in 1.1.2 :D
05:23 <Khalsa> then when I got into MG it's just mg now
05:23 <spidey> you could totally own with it :D
05:23 <Khalsa> I've never played tremx
05:23 <spidey> the adv granger shoots trapper spitballs
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> do you guys do anything besides play games?  ;)
05:23  * Lucifer_arma is having a hard time typing, his martial arts class wiped out his fingers
05:24 <Khalsa> Lucifer_arma: I rarely play games
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I've heard that before
05:24 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, no comment
05:24 <Khalsa> the only games i've pretty much ever played have been Tremulous (i'm addicted) and now armagetron
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I put as much stock in it as "I rarely masturbate"
05:24 <spidey> which reminds me
05:24 <spidey> why the fuck did i reinstall armagetron
05:24 <spidey> i was doing good, 4 months without it
05:24 <GodTodd> hahaha
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> you needed to masturbate?
05:25 <spidey> now i've played it about 7 hours in 2 days
05:25 <GodTodd> 4 months without masturbating?
05:25 <GodTodd> poor dude :(
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I learned today that, in spite of all efforts to the contrary, my left arm is still weaker than my right arm
05:25 <spidey> i found tremulous to blow my load on, so it was good, GodTodd  :p
05:26 <GodTodd> tried masturbating with the "other woman"?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> always do, that's the thing
05:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, hah :p
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but I had to throw a 6 pound ball at my instructor 16 times with my left hand
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> only 8 with my right, because we're mostly right-handed
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> all 8 of the throws with my right went right to his chest and made a nice loud noise when he caught it
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe 4 of the left-handed throws went to his chest, and only one made a nice loud noise
05:27 <spidey> i'm left handed
05:27 <spidey> but
05:27  * Lucifer_arma was the odd man out and had to workout with his instructor
05:27 <spidey> i wright with my right hand
05:27 <GodTodd> ummm
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> evidently you type with your penis
05:27 <spidey> how'd you know?
05:27 <GodTodd> cuz wright isn't even *close*?
05:28 <spidey> write
05:28 <spidey> wright
05:28 <spidey> who cares :p
05:28 <GodTodd> webster
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> people who like to read :)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> which is everyone but you, and most other americans ;)
05:28  * GodTodd hates books
05:28 <GodTodd> burn 'em all
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, I should talk less trash, it's hurting my fingers
05:28 <Khalsa> I thought those kind of people went extinct?
05:28 <GodTodd> they take us away from our relationship with God
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> and make us unable to see obvious conspiracies by the american government
05:29 <GodTodd> exactly
05:29 <spidey> GodTodd, stop provoking luke, he's sleeping finally :D
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> we could just go into #luke-jrisanasshat
05:29 <GodTodd> if we limit our reading, we're more likely to believe everything we *do* read
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, I want some hard boiled eggs
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> so I just determined that using granulated salt to make rock salt to make ice cream is dumb
05:30 <GodTodd> yeah...but if we badmouth him there, he doesn't see it :/
05:30 <spidey> lol
05:31 <spidey> off to tremulous bbl :p
05:31 <GodTodd> don't threaten me!
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm a hard boil some egs
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's either that or I'm going to fry some
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe I want to fry them instead
05:31  * Lucifer_arma thinks about it
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, better fry them.  I won't be able to peel hard boiled eggs as my fingers are right now
05:32 <GodTodd> fry some taters and scramble some eggs in them and add some sausage (crumbled)
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> no sausage, and all the taters are reserved
05:32 <GodTodd> :/
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> but man, throw a couple of drops of soy sauce into some eggs-over-easy
05:32 <GodTodd> i need to do my mass breakfast burrito thing again soon
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> not me, my schedule leaves plenty of time for lunch at home
05:33 <GodTodd> i have some chorizo taking up freezer space
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, I could just say fuck it and do another pot pie
05:33 <GodTodd> i need to get some pot pies too
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> ever do them from scratch?
05:33 <GodTodd> i haven't had a pot pie in years
05:33 <GodTodd> no...i haven't
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> pot pies made from scratch are fucking awesome
05:33 <GodTodd> i'm sure they are
05:33 <GodTodd> i need to do that too
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> they're good for when you have a bunch of shit and you don't know what to do with it
05:34 <GodTodd> i'ma add pie crusts to my sam's list
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> keep some bullion on hand, and flour and shit
05:34 <GodTodd> i have that stuff
05:34 <GodTodd> always
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> make up some pie crusts (not too hard), then make up some chicken gravy with the bullion
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> then chop everything, throw it in the gravy until it's a nice thick thing, thicker than stew, and toss it in the pie crust
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> top it with the other pie crust you made
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> bake the piss out of it
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> it's awesome
05:35 <GodTodd> yeah
05:35 <GodTodd> i need to make bread again soon
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> obviously some ingredients, like potatoes and carrots, need to be blanched
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> no bread machine?
05:35 <GodTodd> homemade bread is orgasmic
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> we have mechanized homemade bread :)
05:35 <GodTodd> i think we have one actually
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to get into the habit of actually tossing some bread mix in there when we don't have any ;)
05:35 <GodTodd> i think it's under the kitchen server
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> still, it doesn't beat making bread by hand
05:36 <GodTodd> (no that's not a typo)
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> it just makes bread that's waaaay better than store bought shit
05:36 <GodTodd> yeah...hand-bread fucking rocks
05:36 <GodTodd> all day thing but mmmmmmmmmmmm
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> alright, i'll do the eggs for breakfast and just toss in a pot pie for riht now
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I should be doing statics instead of cooking eggs :)
05:37 <GodTodd> i should be finishing my physics homework
05:37 <GodTodd> 3 problems to go is all
05:37 <GodTodd> and a prelab...but i have an hour and a half before lab to do that
05:37 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> my statics teacher is awesome
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> today he went through a list of 8 students who didn't turn in their homework on time to ask them why they didn't
05:38 <GodTodd> haha
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> most weren't there, probably dropped the class
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> but the ones that were were so humiliated, it was fucking awesome
05:38 <GodTodd> what reason did you give? ;)
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> no need, I turned it in on time :)
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I had it done days early
05:39 <GodTodd> tho, that's a good way to make sure they'll turn in the *next* one
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
05:39 <GodTodd> on time*
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's also starting to look like the two chicks in class are going to try to compete for which one should dominate
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> (they're both hot, so this could be interesting)
05:39 <GodTodd> alpha-chick?
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I guess so
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> one's skinny and real pretty, the other's a little chubby but really curvy
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> with current trends being what they are, I might wind up with a new wife before I finish my degree
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> literally every time I take a class that's up a notch mathematically, the chicks are hotter
05:41 <GodTodd> haha
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> so naturally, the really nasty ugly chicks were in my intermediate algebra class
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> this only applies to physics, the calculus progression saw steadily uglier chicks
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> which doesn't make sense, because the hot physics chicks have to go through the calc progression too
05:42 <GodTodd> there was a damn hot black chick in my calc 2 class
05:42 <GodTodd> she goes to UNC tho :/
05:46 <GodTodd> i should see if my physics instructor extended the chapter 2 assignment
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> at this point I'm just happy to see hot chicks that aren't shying away from smart pursuits
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I have noticed a lot of attractive women that dn't think they're smart enough for anything besides kinesiology, communication, liberal arts, etc.
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> nursing's very popular, but there is a labor shortage in the field, too
05:52 <GodTodd> yep
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> took my first quiz in government today :)
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> got 20 out of 20 points ;)
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05:59 <Khalsa> is there a way to load different cfg files from console?
05:59 <luke-jr> yes
05:59 <Khalsa> (server console)
05:59 <luke-jr> include
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, type INCLUDE whatever.cfg
06:00 <Khalsa> Cool, thanks!
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 72.3°F (11:06 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> looks like the only thing humberto's doing for austin is pushing a lot of hot air over from houston, the little bastard
06:02 <Khalsa> You get what you deserve!
06:02 <Khalsa> and it's not that hot here anyways...
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> you're in houston?
06:03 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:03 <Khalsa> Yup
06:03 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 72.9°F (11:11 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Rising).
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> watch out for humberto!
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
06:03 <GodTodd> still hotter than austin :/
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> he should be hitting you pretty soon, maybe just a few hours from now
06:03 <Khalsa> meh, not going to be much wind, just 4-6 inches of rain
06:04 <Khalsa> so i'm not worried
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> some wind gusts should be up to hurricane strength :)
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> he strengthened a bit
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> not much, not enough to become a hurricane, but that's what Erin did too
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> and erin totally tore up san antone
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> at least erin had the decency to send us some rain
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I think austin's in the tropical conditions zone this year, or as close as it can get
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> we just had some cool thunderstorms blow through the last few days
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> fall's a-coming
06:06 <GodTodd> yeah...we are looking at some lows hitting in the upper 50s
06:06 <GodTodd> brrrr
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> damn
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> need a coat
06:06 <Khalsa> is there a way to dump client console to a file?
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> Khalsa: not that I'm aware of
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> server console is easy, but client console isn't
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> we'd welcome a patch :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> my government teacher put the first test in the testing center finally
06:07 <Khalsa> hmm, i'll get some of my coder buddies to look at ti
06:07 <Khalsa> it*
06:07 <GodTodd> we're going to take our govt tests in class
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this is distance learning :)
06:07 <GodTodd> yep
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> my chem teacher's going to use the testing center too, so I need to knock out the gov exam this weekend or next week
06:08 <tramshed> #weather 49117
06:08 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Beacher, 10th/Franklin St, Michigan City, Indiana is 54.1°F (11:16 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Rising).
06:09 <tramshed> woot.
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> dude, it's fucking cold there!
06:09  * Lucifer_arma is feeling the soreness starting up
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to be sooooo sore tomorrow
06:10 <tramshed> welcome to the midwest
06:10 <tramshed> its 90 during the day
06:10 <tramshed> our weather is fucked the fuck up.
06:12 <GodTodd> #weather 68131
06:12 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 62.6°F (9:52 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <Khalsa> #weather 77381
06:12 <armabot> Khalsa: The current temperature in The Woodlands, Texas is 74.8°F (11:15 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <Khalsa> #weather 77046
06:12 <tramshed> #weather 60606
06:12 <armabot> Khalsa: The current temperature in Loop610, Houston, Texas is 75.9°F (11:20 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady).  Tropical Storm Warning in effect...
06:12 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in Cabrini Green, Chicago, Illinois is 61.3°F (11:00 PM CDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
06:12 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
06:12 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, New Mexico is 69.8°F (10:14 PM MDT on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
06:13 <GodTodd> #weather 85205
06:13 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Val Vista & University, Mesa, Arizona is 89.4°F (9:01 PM MST on September 12, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady).
06:13 <GodTodd> yep...that's mesa :/
06:13 <GodTodd> heh
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06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I love these big dick competitions over weather we do here
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06:24 <GodTodd> heh
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06:25 <GodTodd> woot...he extended the due date to saturday
06:26 <GodTodd> and posted chapters 3 and 4
06:26 <GodTodd> so i can get ahead this weekend :)
06:27 <GodTodd> The acceleration of a particle along an x axis is a = 4.2t, with t in seconds and a in meters per second squared. At t = 2.0 s, its velocity is +16 m/s. What is its velocity at t = 7.0 s?
06:27 <GodTodd> grrr...why is this confusing me? :/
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> integrate acceleration
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> which ives you 2.1t^2
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> which ives you 2.1t^2 + C
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> plug in 2 for t and set it equal to 16, solve for C
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then replace C with what you got, and make it a velocity function
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> then find v(7.0)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: follow?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think there's an algebraic way to work that problem
06:36 <GodTodd> i thought i did that and it said the answer was wrong...
06:36 <GodTodd> let me try again
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 16/8.4
06:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1.90476190476
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> let's see, lemme work this somewheres beside my head :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> a(t) = 4.2t
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 4.2/2 t^2 + C
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 4.2/2
06:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2.1
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that was right
06:38 <GodTodd> #math calc 2.1*49+1.90476190476
06:38 <armabot> GodTodd: 104.804761905
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 2.1 t^2 + C
06:38 <GodTodd> hrmmm...i think i see my problem
06:38 <GodTodd> i think i had 102.9 before...
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> 16 = 2.1 (2)^2 + C
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah, rounding error/
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2.1 * 2**2
06:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 8.4
06:38 <GodTodd> which i shouldn't do because panahi drilled "+C" into our heads for indefinite integration :/
06:39 <GodTodd> nah...no +C
06:39 <GodTodd> :)
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 16 - 8.4
06:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 7.6
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so I get C = 7.6
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> is that what you got?
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> v(t) = 2.1 t^2 + 7.6  <--- here's my velocity function
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> (my previous division was completely ass wrong, which I noticed after I wrote it out)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 2.1 * 7**2 + 7.6
06:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 110.5
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's my answer
06:41 <GodTodd> and it's wrong :)
06:41 <GodTodd> answer is 47 m/s
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine, I'll get a pencil
06:41 <GodTodd> heh
06:41  * Lucifer_arma always gets it wrong when he tries doing math in irc
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what did I do wrong?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure you put the right problem up for the answer you're giving me?
06:44  * Lucifer_arma did it on paper and got his same answer
06:45 <tramshed> #math calc 4.2*7
06:45 <armabot> tramshed: 29.4
06:45 <tramshed> im wrong
06:45 <tramshed> im awesome like that
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, this is a calc 1 problem
06:46 <GodTodd> yeah...but reading the answer thing...it's answer is based on the numbers in the book...and they're usually slightly different...and i'm not sure which problem it is in the print book :/
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's no "slightly different" between 47 m/s and 110
06:47 <GodTodd> i know
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> did you get 110.5 also?
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> (or whatever it was)
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> C has to be -55.9 for the answer you say it should be
06:49 <GodTodd> `1not me...the damn web thingy
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I stick by my answer, the computer answer is wrong :)
06:49 <GodTodd> :P
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I worked out the integral a different, more verbose way, just to make sure I hadn't forgotten basic integration
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> still the same shit
06:50 <GodTodd> that's cool :) try this one:
06:50 <GodTodd> A jumbo jet must reach a speed of 360 km/h on the runway for takeoff. What is the least constant acceleration (in km/h2) needed for takeoff from a 1.88 km runway?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> haha
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> love these optimization problems
06:50 <GodTodd> :)
06:51  * GodTodd is trying to remember optimization from calc I :/
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I got 1880 meters for the runway, and 100 m/s for the target velocity
06:54 <GodTodd> yep
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I have p = a t^2
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> make that 1880 = a t^2
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> or p =, doesn't matter
06:58 <GodTodd> 1.5at^2 isn't it?
06:58 <GodTodd> er
06:58 <GodTodd> 1/2at^2
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> I want to minimize a, so I want the derivative
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right, thanks :)
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> wait, I didn't get that by integrating, so I probably did it wrong
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I did p = vt, v = at, then substituted for v
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> this is dumb, I'm going to wind up taking the derivative anyway, with respect to the variable I want, so I'm evidently doing something wrong
07:00 <GodTodd> yeah...v=v0+at
07:00 <GodTodd> which v0 is 0 so it's v=at
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> wait, what's galileo's formula?
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's the one we want, there's no time in the problem, so we shouldn't introduce it
07:00  * Lucifer_arma wonders where his physics notes are
07:02 <GodTodd> maybe: v^2=v0^2+2a(x-x0)?
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's it
07:02 <GodTodd> that leaves out t and we have the rest :)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> v0 = 0
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> deltaX = 1880 m :)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> 2.6596
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I get
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> simple algebra, that
07:04 <GodTodd> is that in km/h^2?
07:04 <GodTodd> :P
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, m/s^2
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> do they want km/h^2?
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's a weird unit for acceleration
07:04 <GodTodd> i know...but it says it wants that
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> asshats
07:04 <GodTodd> i got 34.47
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> fine, lemme convert it real quick
07:04 <GodTodd> is that right?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> eek
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I have the same digits, but different decimal place
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> 34468.08
07:06 <GodTodd> did you multiply with the m-km conversion factor?
07:06 <GodTodd> 1000m=1km
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> divide that
07:06 <GodTodd> cuz you're off by 1000
07:06 <GodTodd> (in decimal anyway) :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I have m in the numerator, so I need m in the denominator, making it division
07:07 <GodTodd> yeah
07:07 <GodTodd> which would give the same answer i have :)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> I squared 3600
07:07 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:07 <GodTodd> oops :)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I punched it in the calculator wrong
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's 3600 seconds in an hour, so 3600^2 seconds in a second^2
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I get 9.57blah without the squaring
07:08 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> did the web app give you an answer?
07:08 <GodTodd> well...34.47 is wrong :/
07:08 <GodTodd> no...cuz i get for tries before it makes me give up
07:08 <GodTodd> four*
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> I stand by my answer
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> lemme dump all the decimal places
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> 34468.08511
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I solved without the unit conversion to start and got the same answer as I did otherwise
07:10 <GodTodd> well...i don't get credit unless i get within 3% of *their* answer ;)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's why I dumped all the decimal places :)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> not that I want you to use up a try on *my* answer
07:12 <GodTodd> blah...yeah...i was dumb...it is 34468
07:13 <GodTodd> i was using km/hr with m on my paper calcs
07:13 <GodTodd> :/
07:13 <GodTodd> stupid stupid
07:13 <GodTodd> worked fine when i used km/hr with km
07:13 <GodTodd> :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> haha :)
07:14 <GodTodd> At the instant the traffic light turns green, an automobile starts with a constant acceleration a of 1.8 m/s2. At the same instant a truck is 12.4 m down the road and traveling with a constant speed of 9.1 m/s. (a) How far beyond the traffic signal will the automobile overtake the truck? (b) How fast will the automobile be traveling at that instant?
07:14 <GodTodd> same equation for part a there, right?
07:14 <GodTodd> er
07:15 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> might want to work with formulas for time on this one, not sure
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> when I had this problem in my physics class, it was an optimization problem
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07:15 <Lucifer_arma> but we'll see :)
07:15 <MrBougo> yea we'll see
07:15 <MrBougo> hello
07:16 <GodTodd> last problem for chapter 2....i might as well try and finish it now :)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, I started by writing a velocity function for the car
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I wrote a position function for it (by integrating the velocity function)
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> this is subtly different from the one I was thinking, so it doesn't appear to be an optimization problem
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> then I wrote a position function for the truck
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm going to set them equal to each other and solve for t :)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> for part a I get 210.9 meters
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 210.9247364
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> for part b, 27.55525878
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> m/s of course
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> the t I got (using the quadratic formula) was 5.055555556 +/- 10.25329215
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> I threw out the negative root answer and kept 15.30884771
07:23 <MrBougo> heh, that Orange Box thingy sounds crazy
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the velocity function I wrote for the car is 1.8t (obviously)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> integrating and throwing out C (becaause we know C=0 as the initial condition), I get 0.9 t^2
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> position of the car
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> the truck's position I wrote simply as 12.4 + 9.1t
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> 12.4 because at t=0, the truck was already 12.4 meters past the stoplight
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> and its position is increasing at the rate of 9.1 m/s :)
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07:26 <Lucifer_arma> set them equal, blahblah
07:26 <GodTodd> it says yer wrong :P
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> what did you get?
07:27 <GodTodd> still working on it :/
07:27 <MrBougo> bye
07:28 <MrBougo> lol GodTodd and Lucifer_arma
07:28 <MrBougo> bye
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> how about 115.47962 (for part a)
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> with a t=11.327431
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> making part b, let's see, 20.3893758
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> this time I let my graphing calculator find the intersection of the two graphs :)
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07:45 <GodTodd> 115.53 m and 20.39 m/s
07:45 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what i got and it says right :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I must've screwed up my computations then, because I punched in the same functions :)
07:46 <GodTodd> :)
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> er
07:46 <GodTodd> bah...88.1 homework average so far :/
07:47 <GodTodd> need to use the next two to raise that
07:48 <GodTodd> tho it's only 25% of the grade
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11:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, isn't texas CDT?
11:56 <deja_vu> hey spidey :)
12:28 <spidey> deja_vu, :D
12:56 <spidey> you've got to be kidding me...
12:56 <spidey> "find the area of the shaded parts" , they didn't use a color printer, or add white, so i have a big solid black box -.-
13:15 <wrtlprnft> compute the area of the solid black box and state 0 ≤ A_shaded ≤ A_box
13:16 <spidey> ...
13:17 <spidey> don't use big...whatever that is...on me :p
13:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:24 <spidey> ?
13:24 <wrtlprnft> ?
13:25 <spidey> ?!
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13:28 <wrtlprnft> 
13:28 <spidey>  
13:28 <spidey> don't you   me
13:28 <wrtlprnft> pfft, normal spaces suck
13:28 <spidey> ;p
13:29 <wrtlprnft> zero- width, no- break spaces are the way to go!
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13:29 <wrtlprnft> ab
13:29 <spidey>  
13:29 <spidey> hm
13:31 <wrtlprnft> on fact it does have a meaning, apparently
13:31 <spidey> oh ffs
13:31 <wrtlprnft> you can prevent other chars from breaking
13:32 <spidey> \t
13:32 <spidey> :O
13:32 <spidey> i was putting my name on this homework due today
13:32 <spidey> and for name i put "spidey"
13:32  * spidey goes to find white out
13:33 <spidey> gah
13:33 <spidey> i broke compiz to
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14:41 <wrtlprnft> http://pastebin.ca/695610
14:41 <wrtlprnft> that's how you deal with spammers
14:45 <spidey> lol
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14:46 <wrtlprnft> two of those pastes are arma- related :D
14:46 <wrtlprnft> just picked random sentences from random pages
14:47 <wrtlprnft> *tabs for those firefox users out there
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14:52 <moos> what did you mean with 'h' ?
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14:53 <wrtlprnft> just something between m and f
14:53 <z-man-work> heh.
14:53 <wrtlprnft> something he didn't expect, anyways
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16:54 <GodTodd> 6. Ballmer on Linux's uh, health problems:
16:54 <GodTodd> "Linux is not in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that
16:54 <GodTodd> attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it
16:54 <GodTodd> touches. That's the way that the license works."
16:54 <GodTodd> heh
16:56 <tramshed> haha, that was awesome, I just got kickbanned
16:57 <tramshed> im ninja like that
16:57 <GodTodd> 8. Gates on his customers:
16:57 <GodTodd> "Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider Monkey."
16:57 <tramshed> guess they dont like pictures of people they know with cans in their ass
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17:11 <GodTodd> cans in their ass...hrmm...not a real pleasant visual ;)
17:15 <tramshed> its not indeed
17:15 <tramshed> but its still utterly hilarious
17:16 <tramshed> they are supposed to be a bunch of metalheads, but they got all emo over that
17:17 <GodTodd> heh
17:19 <tramshed> I love people with high moral standards
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17:20 <GodTodd> as do i, tramshed, as do i ;)
17:46  * Lucifer_arma feels like a train wreck
17:46 <tramshed> hard night of drinking?
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> no, martial arts conditioning
17:46 <Lucifer_arma> we threw the medicine ball for an hour and a half
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> since I was the odd man out, I had to work out with the instructor ;/
17:47 <tramshed> hah
17:47 <tramshed> and hes a ninja
17:47 <tramshed> so you got pwned
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> 8th degree black belt in aikido
17:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I've got muscles sore that I didn't even know I had
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17:50 <Lucifer_arma> bonjour, epsy, comment t'allez-vous?
17:50 <epsy> ça ne va pas pour le mieux, mais ça ira :)
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18:03 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/17405
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18:54 <epsy> #tea
18:54 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): 0x0000f, Player 1, ~*SP*~goncita, ¦Ö¦Elex
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19:16 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: ping
19:16 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :D
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19:27 <Durka> MrBougo: :D
19:28 <MrBougo> Durka: !
19:28 <Durka> :P
19:28 <MrBougo> :D
19:32 <wrtlprnft> Durka: 
19:32 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :D
19:33 <Durka> question
19:33 <Durka> Can you change 4 Team Fortress Saloon into Durka's Team Sumo Server (hosted by wrtlpwnd)
19:35 <Durka> do you need the settings?
19:37 <wrtlprnft> what'w wrong with 4 team fortress?
19:38 <Durka> no one plays in it
19:38 <Durka> xD
19:38 <wrtlprnft> include examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg\nTEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2\nTEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2\nSP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2\nSP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2
19:38 <wrtlprnft> anything i missed?
19:39 <wrtlprnft> besides disabling colors in names
19:40 <Durka> yea tons lol
19:40 <Durka> scoring is different, zones are bigger
19:40 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/teamsumo.cfg
19:41 <wrtlprnft> can you rewrite it so it includes the standard sumo cfg file and only lists the differences?
19:41 <Durka> sure
19:46 <Durka> here
19:46 <Durka> http://durkadurkaland.com/teamsumo2.cfg
19:46 <Durka> i THINK that's it ;)
19:52 <wrtlprnft> much better
19:53 <Durka> :P
19:56 <wrtlprnft> 18 FILTER_COLOR_NAMES 1
19:56 <wrtlprnft> 19 FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM 1
19:56 <wrtlprnft> up and running
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20:17 <Durka> ty\
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20:33 <Khalsa> should have a place where people can upload various cfg files
20:33 <Khalsa> so people can try out other settings and such
20:47 <wrtlprnft> you can just post them to the forums or wiki
20:49 <Khalsa> are there some there allready?
20:49 <Khalsa> the example ones were nice to have btw :-)
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21:40 <wrtlprnft> not a lot
21:41 <wrtlprnft> there's some stuff about camera settings on the wiki
21:41 <wrtlprnft> and if you search a bit you'll find the physics settings of some popular servers
21:54 <Khalsa> yeah I only found a couple
21:55 <Khalsa> I think i'll probably query the server ops of the servers I like and see if I can't finagle the settings out of them
22:07 <wrtlprnft> you can just look at the messages that scroll by when you join a server
22:08 <wrtlprnft> they don't tell you about all settings, but about the most important ones
22:08 <wrtlprnft> things like scoring don't get displayed, but you should be able to figure that out yourself
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22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <spidey> DrJoeTron,
22:28 <DrJoeTron> fortress forever was released
22:28 <DrJoeTron> free
22:28 <DrJoeTron> you
22:28 <DrJoeTron> get
22:28 <DrJoeTron> since you own SDK Base
22:28 <spidey> ?
22:29 <spidey> you'll have to wait till i compile the newest cvs of wine :p
22:29 <DrJoeTron> http://www.fortress-forever.com/
22:29 <DrJoeTron> more like you'll have to
22:29 <spidey> not really
22:29 <DrJoeTron> i have to wait for the buttorrent to finish
22:29 <spidey> because i don't care if i have it or not.
22:30 <DrJoeTron> this will be great untill tf2 comes out
22:30 <DrJoeTron> its 8000 times better than suckulous
22:30 <spidey> then
22:30 <spidey> go play the fucking thing.
22:31 <spidey> i'll stick to tremulous
22:31 <DrJoeTron> i cant
22:32 <spidey> sucks to be you
22:32 <DrJoeTron> <DrJoeTron> i have to wait for the buttorrent to finish
22:32 <spidey> <spidey> sucks to be you
22:32 <DrJoeTron> haha i offended tremulous
22:33 <spidey> haha i don't care
22:34 <DrJoeTron> or buttulous
22:36 <spidey> or stfulous
22:38 <DrJoeTron> or spidulous
22:39 <epsy> hmm
22:39 <epsy> cu
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22:45 <spidey> playing tremulous while in a bad mood leads to massive admin abuse
22:45 <spidey> >.>
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23:31 <spidey> nub
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23:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
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23:51 <Khalsa> :-(
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