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Log from 2007-08-18:
--- Day changed Sat Aug 18 2007
00:07 <spidey> shell scripting ftw <3
00:08 <spidey> i made a 1 line shellscript that does what stop.php did...
00:08 <spidey> sudo -u admin kill -9 `cat $1`
00:10 <Vanhayes> hmm, ghab only comes in here for weather these days
00:10 <spidey> haha
00:13 -!- HellBlade-Arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-72-130-168-207.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:16 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight with 60 percent chance of showers. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Showers beginning in the morning and ending late (1 more message)
00:16 <Vanhayes> #more
00:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: in the day. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the day. High 17C(63F). UV index 3 or moderate. Saturday night clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 9C(48F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 18C(64F).;
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
00:16 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 83.3°F (3:20 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling).
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather San Diego
00:16 <Vanhayes> ha, la jolla
00:16 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:16 <HellBlade-Arma> awww
00:17 <HellBlade-Arma> what hayes?
00:17 <HellBlade-Arma> you have something against la jolla?
00:32 <GodTodd> #weather san diego, california
00:32 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in San Diego, California is 75.2°F (2:51 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
00:32 <HellBlade-Arma> blech
00:32 -!- tramshed [i=Tramshed@2002:45dd:fb99:0:0:0:45dd:fb99] has quit ["Gone."]
00:32 <GodTodd> #weather nome, alaska
00:33 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Nome, Alaska is 60.8°F (1:53 PM AKDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
00:34 <GodTodd> #weather antarctica
00:34 <armabot> GodTodd: Overcast. High:-63 ° F. / -53 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-65 ° F. / -54 ° C.; Overcast. High:-63 ° F. / -53 ° C.; Overcast. Low:-69 ° F. / -56 ° C.; Overcast. High:-67 ° F. / -55 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-85 ° F. / -65 ° C.;
00:34 <GodTodd> wow...fucking hot in antarctica :D
00:35 <spidey> #weather 38256
00:35 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 97.9°F (5:40 PM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening...
00:35 <HellBlade-Arma> spidey you live in paris?
00:35 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
00:35 <spidey> tennessee,yes
00:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 93.0°F (5:41 PM CDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 31.01 in 1050.0 hPa (Falling).
00:35 <spidey> paris france, no
00:35 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
00:36 <GodTodd> he just spells english words like he lives in paris, france ;)
00:36 <HellBlade-Arma> don't overheat your computer now
00:37 <spidey> i have a/c
00:37 <spidey> ..
00:37 <spidey> plus a box fan on it because the graphics card gets really hot
00:38 <spidey> oh ffs
00:52 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:52 <armabot> Vanhayes: This data is 83 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ì/xff9900 (8/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), Swampland II (6/8), ? ? ? ? ? ? (6/16), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5/10), [] Cheers! []  A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (5/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (2 more messages)
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> MOAR IT!
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #armaservers
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: This data is 22 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), ë | D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ì/xff9900 (7/16), ? ? ? ? ? ? (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Swampland II (6/8), ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6/10), Fortress Café (6/32), [] Cheers! []  A clone of Norms Place, by Angel. (5/16), .: (2 more messages)
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
00:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Eclipse'd.EC|d Arma Clan :. (5/16), WildCat (4/16), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (4/12), Strawberry Fields (3/16), The DogFight Arena | by Durka & ~"XzL.Shaggy (3/8), Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem (3/8), SPACEZONE III (3/15), Norm's Place (2/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (2/12), Wild West  =Fortress Shootout= (2/12), Wild West  =Sumo= (2/14), Breakfast of the Resurrected [BoC] (1/16), Crazy Tronners (1 more message)
00:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Wild Marathon (1/14), OpenFortress (1/16), Wild West  =Hold The Flag=  ~Multi~Mode~ (1/16), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (1/15)
01:29 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
01:29 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 85.5°F (4:35 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
01:32 <HellBlade-Arma> grrr it's gone up 2.2?
01:37 <Vanhayes> spidey:  Lucifer_arma luke-jr|work GodTodd civ?
01:38 <spidey> busy writing a admin panel
01:38 <Vanhayes> how long is that going to take?
01:38 <spidey> depends
01:38 <spidey> if i do it right, 2-3 days
01:38 <spidey> if i do it like i'm doing it
01:39 <spidey> 30 minutes
01:39 <Vanhayes> keep doing it like your doing, then we can get a game of civ in
01:39 <spidey> you're more than welcome to help me if you know php :p
01:41 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: ehh, maybe
01:41 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: last time, spidey and Lucifer_arma ganged up on me tho
01:41 <Vanhayes> i can say i do and contribute nothing, except slowing you down
01:41 <luke-jr|work> and then tried to get GodTodd in cuz they weren't winning enough
01:41 <spidey> um
01:41 <spidey> todd wanted to join
01:42 <luke-jr|work> no, you went asking him
01:42 <spidey> and you turned allowtake off
01:42 <Vanhayes> luke-jr|work: it happens sometimes, all depends on where people start
01:42 <spidey> because you're a pussy
01:42 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: he didn't start
01:42 <spidey> and never hosting another server we play on again
01:42 <luke-jr|work> he was going to take an AI allied against me
01:42 <spidey> as stated
01:42 <spidey> now stfu so i can finish
01:42 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you want to play you vs 3 other people?
01:42 <spidey> i have, haven't i?
01:42 <luke-jr|work> where the 3 other ppl all can pwn you alone
01:42 <spidey> and i owned all 3
01:42 <spidey> you, your friend, and some random guy
01:43 <luke-jr|work> none of us could pwn you combined, let alone by ourselves
01:43 <luke-jr|work> big difference
01:43 <spidey> w/e
01:43 <luke-jr|work> nor were you alone
01:43 <spidey> i was
01:43 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: does 3 pro vs 1 medium-level-at-best sound fair?
01:43 <spidey> stfu you're making me typo on my already fucked up code D:
01:44 <luke-jr|work> LOL
01:44 <spidey> todd isn't a pro
01:44 <Vanhayes> fair no, but no one said civ is fair
01:44 <luke-jr|work> compared to me?
01:44 <spidey> dude
01:44 <spidey> you're such a cry baby
01:44 <spidey> i wasn't even attacking you
01:44 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you're the one who keeps bringing it up
01:44 <luke-jr|work> spidey: you were so
01:44 <spidey> i was blocking you from advancing on me
01:44 <luke-jr|work> you were putting my cities under siege
01:44 <luke-jr|work> so they died
01:45 <luke-jr|work> cuz of no food
01:45 <spidey> of course i'm fucking seiging them
01:45 <luke-jr|work> it was not your territory
01:45 <spidey> you knew what you was doing
01:45 <spidey> you took that settler
01:45 <spidey> and put it 4 blocks from my cities
01:45 <spidey> that's my fucking territory
01:45 <luke-jr|work> as if there was any place I spawned not 4 blocks from your cities
01:45 <spidey> you had more room than i did
01:45 <spidey> i had 5 cities
01:46 <luke-jr|work> well I deserved it
01:46 <luke-jr|work> :p
01:46 <spidey> simply put
01:46 <spidey> i was gonna let luci pwn you
01:46 <luke-jr|work> no
01:46 <spidey> all i wanted was to win by science/wonders
01:46 <luke-jr|work> you were gonna let GodTodd pwn me
01:46 <spidey> if i wanted to invade you
01:46 <luke-jr|work> stfu, it doesn't matter anymore
01:46 <spidey> my 30 units from 5 cities would have done the job
01:47 <spidey> no it doesnt, because the ai pwned you before any of us could
01:47 <spidey> nu
01:47 <spidey> nub
01:47 <luke-jr|work> only cuz I forgot I was playing
01:47 <luke-jr|work> come up here and help me unload the truck
01:47 <Vanhayes> I say we start a new game
01:47 <luke-jr|work> and put my server rack inside
01:48 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: if you want spidey or GodTodd to play, I can't host it
01:48 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: tho spidey might be bribed if he gets /cmdlevel hack
01:49 <spidey> ..
01:49 <luke-jr|work> ...
01:49 <Vanhayes> I say we start a game up in say, an hour lateest, I dont really care who hosts
01:49 <luke-jr|work> Vanhayes: you host
01:49 <luke-jr|work> :p
01:49 <spidey> if luke doesn't stfu i'm not gonna be able to play in a hour
01:50 <spidey> i've already fucked up half of the part i'm workingo n
01:56 <GodTodd> man...that's a rain outta nowhere
02:01 <spidey> echo Server stopped(maybe);   <--- lazy way D:
02:18 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:18 <Vanhayes> I say 15
02:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness overnight with 60 percent chance of showers. Fog patches overnight. Low 12C(54F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Showers beginning in the morning and ending late in (1 more message)
02:18 <Vanhayes> close
02:18 <Vanhayes> #more
02:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: the day. Risk of a thundershower. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) late in the day. High 17C(63F). UV index 3 or moderate. Saturday night clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 9C(48F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 18C(64F).;
02:22 <spidey> yay
02:22 <spidey> ok
02:22 <spidey> now to figure out how to make the stupid thing exit;
02:26 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you around?
02:26 <spidey> or maybe hayes, if you know php? :D
02:29 <luke-jr|work> GodTodd: Texas too??
02:29 <luke-jr|work> spidey: ?
02:30 <luke-jr|work> define 'exit'
02:30 <spidey> make the script halt
02:30 <spidey> it makes the browser apear to load over and over
02:30 <spidey> but it doesn't do the action over and over
02:30 <luke-jr|work> ...
02:30 <spidey> here's what i'm talking about
02:30 <spidey> 					$serv = $_POST['serv'];
02:30 <spidey> 						exec("sudo -u admin ".$serv);
02:30 <spidey> 						echo 'server started(maybe)';
02:30 <spidey> 						exit;
02:30 <spidey> now
02:31 <luke-jr|work> lol
02:31 <spidey> when it starts the server
02:31 <luke-jr|work> and you criticize *me* for using sudo? :p
02:31 <spidey> it starts it, but it makes the browser hang :(
02:31 <spidey> um, you criticized me for using sudo, buddy
02:31 <luke-jr|work> you need to run the task in the bg
02:31 <spidey> why would i? i've been using it this whole time
02:31 <spidey> but it is
02:31 <luke-jr|work> or have the task exit
02:31 <luke-jr|work> #last --with sudo --nolimit
02:31 <spidey> here's a $_POST['serv']
02:31 <armabot> luke-jr|work: [02:36:10] <spidey> um, you criticized me for using sudo, buddy, [02:35:59] <luke-jr|work> and you criticize *me* for using sudo? :p, [02:35:42] <spidey> 						exec("sudo -u admin ".$serv);, [00:13:06] <spidey> sudo -u admin kill -9 `cat $1`, and [08:27:46] <Lucifer_arma> 'sudo -u admin kill $filecontents'  =>  "sudo -u admin kill $filecontents"
02:32 <luke-jr|work> hmm, doesn't go back very far
02:32 <luke-jr|work> spidey: are you *sure* it's working?
02:32 <spidey> wait wait
02:32 <spidey> i only did a few servers with nohup
02:32 <luke-jr|work> using sudo from php securely isn't very simple
02:32 <spidey> yea it's working
02:32 <luke-jr|work> nohup doesn't put it in the bg
02:32 <spidey> & does
02:33 <luke-jr|work> yes
02:33 <luke-jr|work> wd
02:33 <spidey> lucis armastart wrapper, when run as a daemon, runs in the background
02:33 <spidey> so why is it still hanging?
02:33 <luke-jr|work> ok
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> what's hanging?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> the armastart wrapper or the arma process?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> keep in mind that the arma process spends a minute or so connecting to each of 4 master servers and reporting itself
02:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, neither
02:38 <spidey> my script's hanging
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> now, there is another way it could hang.  If the user doesn't have write access to the directory where armastart creates its pipe, then armastart will crash and armagetronad-dedicated will hang (because it can't connect to the pipe)
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> your script is hanging?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> your php script is hanging?
02:38 <spidey> yea
02:38 <spidey> hold on
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my daughter tried to login last night around 9pm and couldn't :)
02:39  * Lucifer_arma hasn't told them about that particular change
02:42 <spidey> ok
02:42 <spidey> luci i'm pm you the link on jabber because the dir isn't pass'd yet and i don't trust everyone here :p
02:43 <spidey> sign on jabber xD
02:45 <spidey> or i pwned you on here
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
02:48  * Lucifer_arma just installed a new OS and hasn't finished configuring it
02:48 <luke-jr|work> ()$&)#$
02:48 <luke-jr|work> what idiot uses hexagonal screws?
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmmmmm
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> you got your degree in mechanical engineering from ... ?
02:49 <spidey> ?
02:49 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I got my screwdrivers from ???, and they don't include a hexagon
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> those used to be called allen wrenches, but the phrase "hex head" has become more common
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> so buy a set of hex heads.
02:50 <spidey> or use a knife
02:50 <spidey> knives always work
02:50 <Vanhayes> knives can strip the screws
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> torx(tm) work frequently in hex heads, if you size it right
02:51 <luke-jr|work> torx?
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> yep, spidey, it sure does hang
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> yes, torx
02:51  * Lucifer_arma isn't surprised luke-jr|work (hi there!) doesn't know anything about screwing
02:51 <spidey> i dunno why/how to fix it :(
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> read the php docs on exec, particularly check hang conditions :)
02:51 <spidey> it stops at the exec, so exit doesn't work
02:51 <luke-jr|work> depends on what kind of screwing
02:52 <spidey> Note: If you start a program using this function and want to leave it running in the background, you have to make sure that the output of that program is redirected to a file or some other output stream or else PHP will hang until the execution of the program ends.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma>  If you start a program using this function and want to leave it running in the background, you have to make sure that the output of that program is redirected to a file or some other output stream or else PHP will hang until the execution of the program ends.
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:52 <spidey> wow, it was right infront of me
02:52  * spidey slaps self
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr|work: torx are common on electronics and american cars
02:54 <Vanhayes> Hours up, who wants to play a game of civ?
02:54 <luke-jr|work> well I don't think I have a screwdriver for it
03:00 <Vanhayes> so... who is up for a game of civ?
03:01 <luke-jr|work> nobody, from the sound of it
03:03 <spidey> i will
03:03 <spidey> 5 minutes or so
03:03 <spidey> almost done :)
03:07 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
03:08 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 84.6°F (6:10 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006.7 hPa (Falling).
03:08 <spidey> woot
03:08 <spidey> piped it to /dev/null D:
03:08 <spidey> Vanhayes, ready
03:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, fixed :)
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03:09 <Vanhayes> who else is playing?
03:09 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd luke-jr|work ?
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> maybe
03:11 <Lucifer_arma> currently fooling with other games
03:13 <Vanhayes> what games?
03:17 <GodTodd> those ones...you know...the games
03:17 <GodTodd> :)
03:19 <Vanhayes> i love those ones
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> looking at network games that are good for kids
03:20 <HellBlade-Arma> for your kids you mean?
03:21 <Vanhayes> have they ever played arma before?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> yes, for my kids, and no, they can't play arma
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> 3d games don't work so well on that thin client I set up for them
03:27 <HellBlade-Arma> to much cussing?
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I'd just as soon disable chat for them because of all the personal attacks
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I can play freeciv, but I'd like to play on the small world map
03:28 <spidey> same
03:36 <Vanhayes> sounds good to me
03:36 <spidey> who's hosting?
03:37 <HellBlade-Arma> not I
03:37 <Vanhayes> the faster we get started the longer I can play, I work at 8 tommorow so ill have to quit about 1 or 2 at the extreme latest
03:43 <spidey> Vanhayes, get me a job where you work
03:43 <HellBlade-Arma> and me
03:43 <spidey> pft
03:44 <spidey> i asked first
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> I ASKED SECOND!
03:44 <spidey> so
03:44 <spidey> noone likes you
03:44 <HellBlade-Arma> so your face...
03:44 <Vanhayes> Ive worked over 45 hours this week at a part time job, i havent had a day off since last tuesday
03:44 <spidey> sounds good to me
03:44 <Vanhayes> and its minimum wage
03:45 <Vanhayes> canadian
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> doesn't that it's over 40 hours make it a full time job?
03:45 <spidey> that is?
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> nvm
03:45 <spidey> min here is like $5.60
03:45 <HellBlade-Arma> it's canada
03:45 <Vanhayes> its 7.25 in NB
03:45 <spidey> and i can live off 45hr/week at min wage
03:45 <spidey> seeing as we live off $700/mo now
03:45 <Vanhayes> so can I but then last week I had 29
03:46 <Vanhayes> and the week before 30 some then 18 or so before that
03:46 <spidey> as long as i have some kind of income i don't care :p
03:46 <spidey> aslong as it's not mcdonalds
03:46 <Vanhayes> and since Im legally an adult and no longer a student I get taxed
03:46 <spidey> i refuse to work there, unless luke-jr|work goes to that same one, then i will so i can spit in his food
03:46 <Vanhayes> its save easy a grocery store
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> lemme grab a smoke, then I'll start a server
03:47 <spidey> CA save easy = USA save alot?
03:48 <Vanhayes> sure
03:48 <Vanhayes> never heard of save alot but it sounds the same
03:48 <Vanhayes> #g 7.25 CAD in USD
03:48 <armabot> blame google for closing their damn API
03:48 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
03:48 <Vanhayes> you suck google
03:48 <spidey> lol
03:49 <Vanhayes> #help calc
03:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: That command exists in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.
03:49 <Vanhayes> #math calc 7.25 * 40
03:49 <armabot> Vanhayes: 290
03:50 <Vanhayes> #math calc 290 * 4
03:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: 1160
03:50 <spidey> that's more than we currently live off of
03:50 <spidey> heh
03:50 <spidey> so that plus $700/mo
03:50 <spidey> that's like living as kings for us :p
03:51 <Vanhayes> but then rent on a one bedroom apartment here cost 650 a month without utilities
03:51 <spidey> wtf?
03:51 <HellBlade-Arma> stinking canadians, always trying to steal our money
03:52 <spidey> i guess i have it decent
03:52 <spidey> the logs on this old house are worth more than enough to buy a double wide trailor
03:52 <Vanhayes> plus I got taxed 20 some bucks off of a 156 check, so ....
03:52 <spidey> and this house is going in my name when my grandma pass's away
03:52 <spidey> so i'll have like
03:53 <spidey> 3 bills, electric, net, and phone
03:53 <spidey> plus the food
03:53 <Vanhayes> minimum isnt enough for someone to live off of  on a part time job here
03:53 <spidey> normally it isn't here either
03:53 <spidey> i'll just have a place to start out with..
03:53 <Vanhayes> because its rare you get more than 30 at where I work, its just that everyone quits slave easy
03:54 <spidey> heh
03:54 <Vanhayes> it was basically me unloading 4 trucks a week and putting shit out on the shelves and rotating the products
03:55 <Vanhayes> then I see the produce guy cut fruit all day and get paid 10 an hour
03:55 <spidey> ...
03:56 <Vanhayes> apparantly it takes skill to slice watermelon into squares
03:56 <spidey> lol
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava.html
03:58 <Vanhayes> the guy who quit before me got 8 bucks an hour for doing that job for 3 years, and that is one of the better jobs around here
03:58 <Vanhayes> and thats why im going out west
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh nvm, looked like a java verison of the game
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> need another 30 minutes
04:03 <spidey> hm
04:06 <P4> can you connect to taht server? i can see there's 4 players but i got map_resource error
04:06 <P4> #serverinfo -v octopus
04:06 <armabot> P4: Octopus's Garden ( running unix dedicated, url: http://mastercontrolprogram.de, Description: “6-axis/18 Rubber/400m walls“, Players (4/16): <<Fanatic>>, FanaticGirl, OLLI, ULTRA
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you guys want to play monopoly?  :)
04:07 <spidey> LOL
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://gtkatlantic.gradator.net/downloads.html
04:08 <P4> what means "Error: Return value 0 != 200" on Map load failure?
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> kde users can just play atlantik :)
04:08 <spidey> 0 doesn't equal 200?
04:08 <P4> yea.. on map load...
04:08 <P4> what does it mean?
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> #google http 200
04:09 <P4> it's not 404 error, right?
04:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.11 seconds: HTTP /1.1: Status Code Definitions: <http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html>; 200 Free Scholarships for Minorities from Black Excel: <http://www.blackexcel.org/200-Scholarships.html>; 200 Free Scholarships for Minorities: <http://www.blackexcel.org/06-200-free-scholarships-minorities.htm>; Ethereal: [Ethereal-users] Five HTTP 200 responses (3 more messages)
04:09 <P4> oh it
04:09 <P4> it's http error code
04:09 <P4>  200 OK
04:10 <spidey>  Error #  	 Info  	 Error Code
04:10 <spidey> 200 	Info 	OK
04:10 <spidey> wtf's that mean?
04:10 <P4> if it's OK... what the hell is wrong
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> so it's getting a return value of 0 instead for some reason
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> which probably means some internal error of some sort
04:10 <P4> but players are there
04:10 <P4> can it be clientside?
04:10 <spidey> The item requested of the server is available (keep in mind, available, not accepted or completed).
04:10 <spidey> no
04:10 <Vanhayes> hmm how long does an average game of online monopoly last?
04:11 <P4> damn
04:11 <P4> it works when they left :|
04:11 <P4> strange...
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, my client crashed when I was playing with the kids earlier
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to figure out why it didn't let me back in when that happened
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04:16 <GodTodd> length of any monopoly game generally depends on the "house rules" in effect :)
04:16 <Vanhayes> id be up for a game of monopoly a little late for civ
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> hey, let's play it
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> forget freeciv and let's play monopoly :)
04:16 <Vanhayes> ok
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com , port 1234
04:16 <Vanhayes> what version?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't matter, get the latest
04:16 <GodTodd> luke-jr|work's not playing is he?
04:17 <Vanhayes> maybe This is  the game he doesnt suck at
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:17  * GodTodd refuses to play any game with luke-jr|work...
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> aw, come on, how bad can it be?
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> of course, we could find ourselves waiting for him to go, doesn't look like there's a turn timeout
04:17 <GodTodd> i'm sick of his childish shit...i've got better things to do than deal with him
04:17 <Vanhayes> can we kick?
04:18 <GodTodd> so i've decided to eliminate that possibility :)
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> not that I can see
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> lemme see what I can find
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, if worse comes to worst, I can use the firewall to kick him
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04:24 <Vanhayes> is the server up?
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr|work --nolimit
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, server's up
04:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [03:06:15] <luke-jr|work> nobody, from the sound of it, [02:59:37] <luke-jr|work> well I don't think I have a screwdriver for it, [02:56:40] <luke-jr|work> depends on what kind of screwing, [02:56:07] <luke-jr|work> torx?, [02:54:48] <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I got my screwdrivers from ???, and they don't include a hexagon, [02:53:40] <luke-jr|work> what idiot uses hexagonal screws?, (50 more messages)
04:24 <Vanhayes> CONNECT 1] socket 352 closed
04:24 <Vanhayes> [CONNECT 1] connected on "www.davefancella.com:1234", use socket 372
04:24 <Vanhayes> [CONNECT 1] socket 372 closed
04:24 <Vanhayes> thats what comes up
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, it's running, for real!  :)
04:25 <luke-jr> I'm too busy to play tonight
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> says you conncted
04:25 <luke-jr> #last --from luke-jr
04:25 <armabot> luke-jr: [04:30:08] <luke-jr> I'm too busy to play tonight
04:25 <Vanhayes> ya, for some reason it just let me
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, no luke for monopoly then :)
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
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04:26 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
04:26 <Vanhayes> spidey: GodTodd ping
04:26 <spidey> nah
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04:26 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: monopoly?  :)
04:26 <Vanhayes> come on
04:27 <GodTodd> sec
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: atlantik is the client
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's the standard client, in fact, it's just only available for KDE
04:29 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yep...i know :)
04:29 <tramshed> hot kernel pwnage.
04:29 <tramshed> kernel compile took 3 minutes
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> my wife wants to play
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe not, she wants to grab a smoke first
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> wait for a cigarrette?
04:33 <GodTodd> sure
05:26 <luke-jr> do gas dryers have abnormal electrical plugs?
05:26 <tramshed> I wouldnt be surprised
05:26 <tramshed> is it a 3 prong circular plug?
05:29 <luke-jr> mine is electric
05:29 <luke-jr> just want to be sure it's right
05:35 <Vanhayes> #night
05:35 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:35 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I want to see what this atlantik variation is, you interested?
05:35 <GodTodd> what variation?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, hit new game and then join Lucifer's game
05:36 <GodTodd> sec
05:43 <xfroggy> hmm guys.... weird question, but when working with computer components, is it alright to use magnetic screwdriver?
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05:45 <xfroggy> HellBlade-Arma, BOING!
05:45 <HellBlade-Arma> xfroggy, ping
05:46 <xfroggy> -.-
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #ping xfroggy
05:46 <armabot> pong
05:46 <xfroggy> #ping HellBlade-Arma
05:46 <armabot> pong
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
05:46 <xfroggy> lul wut
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> you didn't know that did you?
05:46 <xfroggy> ya
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
05:46 <xfroggy> I forgot my fav <3 command though :(
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 80.1°F (8:50 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising).
05:46 <HellBlade-Arma> #eliza wanna have butt secks?
05:46 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: What do you think?
05:46 <xfroggy> Oo
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> ;P
05:47 <xfroggy> #\:o
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> :-#
05:47 <xfroggy> #\:o
05:47 <xfroggy> #help \:o
05:47 <armabot> xfroggy: (\:o <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "".
05:47 <xfroggy> Oo
05:47 <HellBlade-Arma> :-+>
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen ~ X ~
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ~ X ~ has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 1 hour 28 minutes ago.
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen player 1
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Player 1 has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 13 minutes ago.
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> not me -.-
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen stewie
05:48 <HellBlade-Arma> sweet ping out
05:48 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: timed out
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> no more imposter anymore
05:49 <xfroggy> found it!
05:49 <xfroggy> #stone
05:49 <armabot> 2 fat hash joints for guru3 and xfroggy, here you are guys, enjoy morocco stuff.
05:49 <xfroggy> :D
05:49 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:53 <HellBlade-Arma> #go failure
05:53 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: Failure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure>; Failure (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure_(band)>; Google Kills Bush's Miserable Failure Search & Other Google Bombs: <http://searchengineland.com/070125-230048.php>; Failure Magazine: <http://www.failuremag.com/>; BBC (2 more messages)
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma>  Google Kills Bush's Miserable Failure Search & Other Google Bombs: <http://searchengineland.com/070125-230048.php>
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> lol
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
05:54 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: NEWS | Americas | 'Miserable failure ' links to Bush: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm>; FAILURE: <http://www.failurecomics.com/>; Failure Quotes | Failure Quotations | Failure Sayings | Wisdom Quotes: <http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_failure.html>; Failure: <http://despair.com/fail24x30pri.html>; Official Google Blog: Googlebombing ' failure ': (1 more message)
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> 'Miserable failure ' links to Bush: <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm>
05:54 <HellBlade-Arma> #more
05:54 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: <http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/googlebombing-failure.html>; Heart Failure Society of America: <http://www.hfsa.org/>
05:55 <HellBlade-Arma> win ;P
05:56  * tramshed kicks armabot in the nuts
06:03 <xfroggy> meanie ^
06:05 <tramshed> hah
06:05 <tramshed> he had it comin.
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06:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can do without playing atlantic again
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> but the monopoly it plays is pretty fun, even if the ui is lacking in a few places
06:55 <GodTodd> yeah
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I've been wanting a generic board game for awhile
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> something that plays clue, life, monopoly, etc
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> no ais, as far as I'm concerned, anyway
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't be too hard to write, really
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> grab the network layer from eugenics, spend some time generalizing it some more (which it needs anyway, and the code would benefit eugenics by giving it object sync messages, which is where its stalled right now)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> the server itself could load each game as a module, and let players pick which one they want to play
07:02 <GodTodd> that would rock
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a clue game to rip the rules from.  A monopoly game too, for that matter
07:02 <GodTodd> i might have a life game...not sure tho
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> the client could be all pyqt4 and core python, no external dependencies would be needed.  Give it a good windows version at the same time (it would always be on par with the linux version)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> give it chess, checkers, some card games
07:03 <GodTodd> i think axis and allies over the wire would be cool too
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> the game server could make available certain services, like a bank, card shuffling (module gives it a deck, the server gives a shuffle routine), playing card objects
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> most board games have a lot of things in common, so there would be a lot of shared code.  Literally after you have clue and monopoly, and maybe a simple card game like spades or hearts, then adding a new game would be fairly simple, I suspect
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> hell, eugenics could probably integrate with the server, but I'd be more interested in keeping the network layer the same so it could benefit from that
07:06 <GodTodd> probably
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> axis and allies, risk, fortress america (if we can dig up rules for it), stratego
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> lots of board games out there :)
07:06 <GodTodd> yep :)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> build in stuff to make it "kid safe" from the get-go (so my kids can play it :)  )
07:07 <GodTodd> i need to get tommy into the computer more
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my kids have their own accounts now :)
07:07 <GodTodd> conor will be into it pretty much right away, i suspect
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> they've discovered the kde control panel
07:08 <GodTodd> i might change his laptop to linux
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> they have a little competition going over making the best looking desktop
07:09 <GodTodd> :)
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> then there's battleship, of course
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> the classic game, not the weird kbattleship version that's actually boring as hell
07:09 <GodTodd> the network card his has is airlink...hopefully it's supported decently in linux :)
07:10 <GodTodd> (tho it's pcmcia, not builtin, so if it doesn't work i can get one that will)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I could send you one, but it's 802.11b, so not very fast
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> fast enough for most things, though
07:10 <GodTodd> i have to find my box o' parts
07:10 <GodTodd> it's upstairs somewhere
07:11 <GodTodd> need to scrounge a video card anyway
07:11 <GodTodd> my eyes hurt when i have to work on the upstairs server too much ;)
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> I use ssh to work on my server :)
07:14 <GodTodd> my server is an xp box
07:14  * GodTodd ducks.
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu server edition is very nice
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> what's on your server that it has to be xp, anyway?
07:15 <tramshed> cept sh doesnt run bash
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> sh?
07:15 <Lucifer_arma>  /bin/sh is usually a symlink to /bin/bash
07:16 <tramshed> not on ubuntu
07:16 <tramshed> just saw a guy have an issue with that
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> don't know that it matters, bash works differently when it's invoked as "sh" anyway
07:16 <tramshed> it mattered for him
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       4 2007-08-15 18:23 sh -> dash
07:16 <tramshed> he got errors coming out of his asshole in legions because of that
07:16 <tramshed> yeah
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> what the hell is dash?
07:16 <GodTodd> nothing is on my server that needs xp...unless there's issues with windows seeing ubuntu directories...
07:16 <tramshed> no one knows...
07:17 <GodTodd> it's got the big drives that we store most crap on
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> This version
07:17 <Lucifer_arma>      has many features which make it appear similar in some respects to the Korn shell, but it is not a Korn
07:17 <Lucifer_arma>      shell clone (see ksh(1)).  Only features designated by POSIX, plus a few Berkeley extensions, are being
07:17 <Lucifer_arma>      incorporated into this shell.  We expect POSIX conformance by the time 4.4 BSD is released.  This man
07:17 <Lucifer_arma>      page is not intended to be a tutorial or a complete specification of the shell.
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> oops, sorry for the spam
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> looks like dash comes from bsd
07:18 <tramshed> it doesnt run some shell scripts
07:18 <tramshed> I know that
07:18 <tramshed> dude was getting pissy
07:18 <tramshed> till a1k0n came up with that bit of lore
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, a lot of shell scripts expect to be bash and have a lot of bashisms in them that bash lets go even though it's not supposed to
07:18 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
07:19 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 79.5°F (10:20 PM PDT on August 17, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> that's a lie
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> I'm sweating in here...
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I haven't tried to setup samba in ubuntu, but if it's like anything else in the server, it should be pretty easy to setup
07:19 <tramshed> let go of that other man
07:19 <HellBlade-Arma> I don't think I sweat at 79.5 degrees (not celsius)
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> um, you'd be scalded at 79.5 C
07:20 <HellBlade-Arma> I know
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> HISTORY
07:20 <Lucifer_arma>      A sh command appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX.  It was, however, unmaintainable so we wrote this one.
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's definitely the bsd shell
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's the original bsh?
07:21  * Lucifer_arma doubts that, for some reason
07:21 <GodTodd> well...i can't convert that server until i get a bigger hdd/pare down what's stored on it ;)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> why's that?
07:21 <tramshed> I wanna know why they dont just fuckin use bash like a normal person
07:21 <GodTodd> there's documents we want to keep there
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, migrating isn't going to be something wher eyou just pop the disc in and go, but you should be able to do exactly what you do now with it
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> unless you need it to serve RDP sessions or something
07:22 <GodTodd> and 60GB of it is music files and stuff
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> which, now that I think about it, you should probably enable and use rdesktop to access it
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> the problem in migrating is you have to backup the whole thing so you can reformat with a sane filesystem
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> I need to get the printer working on my desktop server (heh, what else am I going to call it?)
07:23 <GodTodd> i know
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> then I intend to use the ssh filesystem program to mount up the shared directory, and let unison sync it
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I can unionfs it?  *wonders*
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> if you popped in another hard drive that was the same size, you could get it all setup using a dual boot system, and then copy the files over
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> reading ntfs isn't a problem, afaik, it's writing it that's tricky
07:25 <GodTodd> ummm iirc that's a 120GB HDD
07:26 <GodTodd> i don't have one of those laying around :)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> they're not that expensive....  ;)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I got 300GB for $120 awhile back
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> kill two birds with one stone, pick up a hard drive to use for backups :)
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07:27 <GodTodd> yeah...i just have to convince karen that we *need* one ;)
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> or declare you'll use the one that's in there for backups and pick up a new system drive
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, do you do backups currently?
07:27 <GodTodd> not full backups...we just move crap to the network drives
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> then you *need* one
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> and the best backup program around is backuppc, which afaik requires linux to run
07:28 <GodTodd> yeah...not a lot of choice for free win backups
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> here we go, building pyqt4 again
07:28 <GodTodd> and they all suck
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> backuppc is very nice.  It'll even email you when it hasn't seen your machine in awhile
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> you have to have samba installed for it to backup windows machines
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> but it'll backup every macchine you've got, and it optimizes so that when two or more computers have the same stuff, it only saves one copy
07:29 <GodTodd> yeah...the ubuntu livecd locks up for me when i try to fuck with samba on it
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> that was my primary motivation behind getting all machines on the same OS, actually
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> and as of a day ago or so, I finally did it :)
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I need to apt-get upgrade on the terminal server
07:30 <GodTodd> i need to reconfigure my whole network, actually...it wasn't going to be a network til i got wireless working...then we kept adding machines, printers, etc.
07:30  * Lucifer_arma now has two servers :/
07:30 <GodTodd> now it's just a patchwork
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> mine's been planned from very early on, it's just that I only ever execute half of the plan at a time, then change the plan
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I'm still technically not done migrating the server.  The eugenics site isn't up yet
07:31 <GodTodd> i'm not changing much of anything (except maybe tommy's box) until i think it through
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> probably a good plan, just make sure you put backups in it somewhere
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> I got seriously bit by not having a good backup system in place awhile back, lost money over it, in fact
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> a fair amount.  :/
07:31 <GodTodd> yeah...that's why i want it sane
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'm feeling a bit antsy not knowing if it's running right now
07:32 <GodTodd> so that i can have regular backups
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, check out backuppc.  It's a little hard to configure, but it's well worth it, and it helps to plan your network :)
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> #google backuppc
07:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: BackupPC : Open Source Backup to disk: <http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/>; BackupPC Documentation: <http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html>; Back Up Linux And Windows Systems With BackupPC | HowtoForge ...: <http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_backuppc>; SourceForge.net: BackupPC: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/>; BackupPC Installation (2 more messages)
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07:33 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu server edition gives you a nice setup, too.  If you've got enough parts laying around, it might even be worthwhile to assemble a separate machine to run backups
07:33 <GodTodd> i have a lil old 98 machine
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> since ubuntu server edition installs in under 500 MB with a LAMP server, it should go in pretty easily with just apache/perl/backuppc
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> don't need mysql then
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> throw on a caching dns server and you'll be amazed how much faster the internet seems just to do dns lookups locally on your lan
07:35 <GodTodd> heh
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I setup the dns server to give the same IP address to my laptop every time, and reserve it thataway, so now my laptop is configured dhcp and works anywhere
07:35 <GodTodd> crap...i have to figure out why this card isn't seeing the network :/
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> er, I meant dhcp server, not dns server
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I turned off dhcp in my router so I could have my server handle it
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> long term plan is to get a network switch and wireless hub and run all network traffic through my server
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07:37 <MrBougo> hiho DrJoeTron
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe, you missed the monopoly game
07:37 <MrBougo> what monopoly game?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> the one we played earlier
07:37 <DrJoeTron> i tend to miss alot of shit
07:37 <tramshed> haha
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> vanhayes kicked our asses
07:37 <tramshed> I just registered the on slashnet
07:38 <tramshed> I own
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the on slashnet?  wtf?
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the domain?
07:38 <tramshed> some ircop is gonna see that and be like "Dumbass, gline."
07:38 <tramshed> the nickname
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> the nickname "the"?
07:38 <tramshed> yeah
07:38 <tramshed> so now I can do shit like this
07:38  * tramshed end
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> slashnet, or slashdot?
07:38 <tramshed> and it looks cool
07:38 <tramshed> slashnet
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah, irc network, ok
07:39 <tramshed> yeah
07:39  * Lucifer_arma Real Slim Shady
07:41 <MrBougo> haha
07:41 <GodTodd> oh...yeah...windows
07:41 <MrBougo> his was k-lined on freenode
07:41 <GodTodd> just had to enable the card :)
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> do you wonder if spammers ever complain about all the spam they get?
07:43 <tramshed> hah
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I learned an Evil Linux Lesson the hard way not too long ago
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07:44 <Lucifer_arma> turns out linux also caches writes to a usb stick
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> so you still have to "safely remove hardware" on it to flush those writes
07:44 <MrBougo> weeeee
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> there's a kde panel applet to make it easy to do that you might want to look into
07:45 <MrBougo> umount isnt enough?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> would be nice if linux didn't do the brain dead thing in the first place
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> having to go to a terminal to remove a usb stick is a little excessively geeky, isn't it?
07:46 <MrBougo> um
07:46 <MrBougo> having to go to a terminal on linux isnt
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> yes it is
07:46 <tramshed> I never had a problem
07:46 <MrBougo> you know that you've got to do this one day when you're using linux
07:46 <tramshed> lucifer, just make an icon that runs a script
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> what's wrong with using a KDE panel applet?!?!?!?
07:47 <MrBougo> nothing!
07:47 <tramshed> KDE!
07:47 <MrBougo> yay for KDE
07:47 <MrBougo> there was that applet with two eyes
07:47 <MrBougo> oh no that was on gnome
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> the one that always looks at the mouse cursor?
07:47 <MrBougo> yup!
07:47 <tramshed> KDE FTL!
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> you got anything better?
07:48 <tramshed> xfce4
07:48  * Lucifer_arma doubts it, because there isn't anything better
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:48 <tramshed> kde is a bloated turd
07:48 <MrBougo> lol, xfce
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> xfce4 isn't even good enough to be the shit on the bottom of my shoe
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> xfce isn't bloated?
07:48 <tramshed> uh, no
07:48 <MrBougo> kde is yummy
07:48 <MrBougo> the only thing i dislike is that global spellcheck
07:49 <tramshed> xfce takes 2 seconds to start from running startx on the crapass laptop
07:49 <MrBougo> no way to disbale it without uninstalling
07:49 <MrBougo> tramshed: we dont have a crapass laptop
07:49 <MrBougo> why would we use xfce
07:49 <tramshed> kde still sucks
07:49 <MrBougo> we have enough performances
07:49 <tramshed> because it sexys.
07:49 <MrBougo> BUT
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> spam alert
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> The following NEW packages will be installed:
07:49 <Lucifer_arma>   gamin gconf2 gnome-keyring gnome-mount gtk2-engines-xfce libexo-0.3-0 libgamin0 libgnome-keyring0 libnotify1
07:49 <Lucifer_arma>   libthunar-vfs-1-2 libxfce4mcs-client3 libxfce4mcs-manager3 libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxklavier11
07:49 <Lucifer_arma>   shared-mime-info thunar xfce4 xfce4-icon-theme xfce4-mcs-manager xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-panel xfce4-session
07:49 <Lucifer_arma>   xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfwm4 xfwm4-themes
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> 0 upgraded, 27 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
07:49 <MrBougo> i agree with you
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bloat?
07:49 <MrBougo> :p
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> look at all the gnome shit that it needs
07:50 <tramshed> thats dependencies
07:50 <MrBougo> HAHA
07:50 <tramshed> its gtk
07:50 <tramshed> look at the dependency tree for kde
07:50 <tramshed> its like 30 things
07:50 <MrBougo> :p
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's 27
07:50 <MrBougo> and thats like 27
07:50 <MrBougo> aw
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> hell, being gtk is a disadvantage
07:50 <tramshed> pfft
07:50 <tramshed> most things are gtk
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> ever try to code with gtk?
07:50 <MrBougo> i'm using a gtk client :(
07:50 <tramshed> you just want to justify your crapass wm
07:51 <tramshed> Its windows on linux!
07:51 <MrBougo> kde is the best
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't, because I think KDE is a big-ass turd
07:51 <MrBougo> it has kolf
07:51 <tramshed> hah
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> I just happen to think it's better than all the other turds out there
07:51 <MrBougo> even better than tiger woods
07:51 <tramshed> how many processes does kde run when it starts up? like 40?
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> something like that
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> but unlike xfce4, most of what KDE starts up keeps running
07:51 <tramshed> Ill stick to xfce
07:51 <MrBougo> i have 48 procs running
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't crash, etc.
07:52 <tramshed> ive never had anything crash in xfce4
07:52 <tramshed> kde on the other hand has went stupid many times
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I've never had xfce4 start up without 90% of its shit crashing
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, once, using xubuntu livecd
07:52 <tramshed> how the fuck did you break xfce4
07:52 <MrBougo> lawl, when these guys decided to do multiple GUIs, they wanted a GUI World War
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't, that was freshly installed on a hard drive that didn't even have KDE yet
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo, mandriva, made no difference
07:52 <tramshed> xfce4 is a nice balance between functionality and speed
07:53 <tramshed> if I want pure speed I use fluxbox
07:53 <tramshed> heh, I know for a fact gentoo installs xfce4 fine
07:53 <MrBougo> you guys are both right
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, takes away all the useful stuff in a desktop, delivers a bunch of gtk-infested crap, and does it quickly
07:53 <tramshed> so YOU fucked something up
07:53 <MrBougo> but kde is yummy, you cant explain
07:53 <MrBougo> gears <3
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  I left gentoo because it was such a pain in the ass :)
07:53 <tramshed> you must have a slow computer
07:53 <MrBougo> and now youre using kubuntu?
07:53 <tramshed> HAR!
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> yes
07:54 <MrBougo> yay for kubuntu
07:54 <tramshed> dash ftl!
07:54 <MrBougo> but theres a lack of packages on the cd imho
07:54 <MrBougo> but its only one cd, and thats a good thing
07:54 <tramshed> Ill stick to my gentoo
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> only problem I've had so far was that the armagetronad-master initscript expects /bin/sh to be a symlink to bash
07:54 <tramshed> where everything works, and I can install anything I like
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, most of what gentoo had didn't work for me out of the box
07:55 <tramshed> like?
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo documentation gets you about halfway through configuring, then has TODO in big letters
07:55 <tramshed> wtf are you talking about?
07:55 <MrBougo> haha
07:55 <tramshed> gentoo docs are known for being the most extensive out there
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> and gentoo's community is a bunch of elitist self-worshipping jerks, so wehenver you ask for help, it's "YOU fucked something up, YOU fix it"
07:55 <MrBougo> omg
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> not from people actually using them :)
07:56 <tramshed> hah
07:56 <tramshed> I think you didnt rtfm.
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo commits the ultimate sin, in fact
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> it totally rearranges every package so that even the package's original documentation no longer applies
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> worse yet, ubuntu's repositories are bigger :)
07:56 <tramshed> lies
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> more stuff, and you don't have to wait 3 days for a package to install
07:56 <tramshed> gentoo has everything
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> no it doesn't
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> had to keep building from upstream sources for shit gentoo didn't have
07:57 <tramshed> what doesnt gentoo have?
07:57 <MrBougo> kde!
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> arma 0.2.8 :)
07:57 <tramshed> its there
07:57 <tramshed> just masked
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh right, masked
07:57 <MrBougo> thats the two most impoortant thing heh Lucifer_arma
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> ubuntu doesn't have it either, though
07:57 <tramshed> no one has officially tested it for them yet
07:58 <tramshed> once someone does itll get unmasked im sure
07:58 <tramshed> they think arma is a dead program
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo's version of Qt4 was ancient
07:58 <MrBougo> lol!
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> pyqt4 too, for that matter
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> now, it's true that ubuntu's pyqt4 is broken
07:58 <tramshed> 4.3 is in the stable
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but that's only a temporary condition.  :)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo was on 4.1 when 4.2 was current, and I left it behind when it was still in that state
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> I needed 4.2 for the graphicsview stuff
07:59 <tramshed> 4.4.3 is the latest available
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, did I mention it was a server?  So I wasn't unmasking shit anyway
08:00 <tramshed> you dont have to unmask everything
08:00 <tramshed> just add the specific packages you want
08:00 <tramshed> you really didnt rtfm, heh
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's a google search attached to that
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, I rtfm'd until I was so sick of the OS that I switched it out
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> face it, not everybody loves gentoo
08:00 <tramshed> not everybody can read
08:01 <tramshed> hehe
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm an illiterate prick who just switched out from windows....
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> have you been living in a cave or something all these years?  ;)
08:01 <tramshed> seriously though, liking gentoo or not, the stuff you are complaining about is all in the portage handbook, which is part of the installation guide
08:02 <tramshed> I know ubuntu is nice, ive heard a lot ofpeople talking about it, but nothing compares to gentoo imo
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> which I read, the point you're missing is that it didn't apply
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> some simple things, like unmasking specific packages were fine, just annoying to do
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> most things, you follow the docs step by step, and when it doesn't work, you google it, and usually find an irc log or a mailing list post where someone posts the question,
08:04 <MrBougo> theres something better than xfce
08:04 <MrBougo> ratpoison!
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> gets an answer that reads "We just haven't updated the docs yet"/"it's a bug that hasn't been fixed yet", then asks when the docs will be updated,
08:04 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> and gets the answer "we're too busy working on the new verison"
08:04 <tramshed> Lucifer_arma, thats why the forums exist
08:04 <tramshed> they have the answer for everything
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but they're not willing to give it, because the gentoo community is a bunch of elitist self-worshipping jerks
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I say that already?
08:05 <MrBougo> slackware!
08:05 <MrBougo> ratpoison!
08:05 <tramshed> well, you have fun with dash
08:05 <MrBougo> heh, my !'s are aligned
08:05 <tramshed> ill have fun with >1000fps in tron
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> just remember, the founder (what's-his-face) rejoined the dev community and got chased out in 2 weeks
08:05 <MrBougo> haha
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo isn't what it used to be
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> heh, > 1000fps, what's your monitor's refresh rate?  :)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, dean's a cat 4 now, and headed for mexico
08:09 <GodTodd> wtf did i put my 6.10 livecd?
08:09 <MrBougo> lol?
08:09 <GodTodd> bah...i should make a feisty one anyway
08:10 <MrBougo> oO
08:10 <MrBougo> GodTodd: ubuntu or kubuntu?
08:10 <MrBougo> or xubuntu
08:10 <MrBougo> or edubuntu
08:10 <GodTodd> i run ubuntu
08:10 <MrBougo> 4°, definitely
08:10 <MrBougo> oh lol
08:10 <GodTodd> but use kde :)
08:10 <MrBougo> hehe
08:11 <MrBougo> they should mv ubuntu gubuntu
08:11 <GodTodd> i think i'll probably make my son's laptop kubuntu
08:12 <MrBougo> hehe :)
08:12 <MrBougo> does he like linux?
08:12 <GodTodd> linux has far better kids games
08:12 <MrBougo> agreed
08:12 <GodTodd> he's never used it :)
08:12 <MrBougo> potato man
08:12 <MrBougo> or something
08:12 <GodTodd> but he's 9 so he shouldn't be swayed by the evil empire just yet :)
08:13 <MrBougo> haha
08:13 <MrBougo> so he wont be like me
08:13 <MrBougo> #quote get 48
08:13 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #48: "i'm a woindwos user --MrBougo" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:12 AM, June 24, 2007)
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bombers18aug18,0,7810658.story?coll=la-home-center
08:18 <GodTodd> oh...how's linux on copying protected dvds?
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> you have to download and compile libdvdcss yourself
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, I think mplayer and xine will use it if it's there
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> it used to be that you had to build mplayer and xine yourself as well, but I think they've fixed taht a bit
08:24 <GodTodd> so...it can do it, right?
08:24 <GodTodd> that's the other main thing i use that box for
08:24 <GodTodd> and i had to crack  windows to do it ;)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it can do it, you just have to install libdvdcss yourself
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> you might have to do a little magic on the dvd drive, like set the region
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I had to do that on an oem dvd drive I bought
08:25 <GodTodd> as long as it can do it, that's good enough for me
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> you might now, try it and see :)
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> it can, and it's pretty easy
08:25 <GodTodd> good
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> worst that happens is you have to install a bunch of -dev packages for codecs so you can build a useful mplayer
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> but I think ubuntu's mplayer will use your own built libdvdcss if it's there
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> haven't tried it myself, though
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> the issue is that you're breaking the law when you use libdvdcss, even if you're doing normal legitimate viewing
08:26 <GodTodd> i don't have to do it often (i like to back up the kids' dvds and give them the copies) but i need it to be there :)
08:26 <GodTodd> yeah
08:26 <GodTodd> i'm already breaking the law tho
08:26 <GodTodd> so *shrug*
08:26 <GodTodd> heh
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, you can get all of the windows codecs working in mplayer
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> there's a package you can install, I think it's even available in the repos
08:27 <GodTodd> score! the utd lug has a kubuntu mirror :)
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> hey, you haven't happened to have found a good home inventory program, have you?
08:28 <GodTodd> the kubuntu dl is automatically a livecd and install cd right?
08:28 <GodTodd> haven't really looked
08:30  * GodTodd is downloading the kubuntu iso in preparation for (possibly) upgrading his son's laptop.
08:32 <GodTodd> oh... Lucifer_arma, did i tell you i pulled a B in calc 2?
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you did
08:32 <GodTodd> ah ok :)
08:33 <MrBougo> damn dell
08:33 <GodTodd> they're already dmaned :)
08:33 <MrBougo> i want a freakin 17" NOT widescreen
08:34 <GodTodd> damned too
08:34 <MrBougo> and THEY DONT HAVE THOSE
08:34 <MrBougo> fuckers
08:34 <MrBougo> 17" wide is USELESS
08:34 <MrBougo> i dont wanna watch films!
08:35 <MrBougo> i should mail them
08:36 <MrBougo> damn laptops
08:36 <MrBougo> they are nic
08:36 <MrBougo> e
08:36 <MrBougo> but they are wide
08:36 <MrBougo> crap
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> man, there's a program for tracking menstrual cycles, and there's no home inventory program?
08:42 <GodTodd> haha
08:43 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/982/
08:44 <MrBougo> now this sounds nice
08:44 <MrBougo> core 2 duo
08:45 <MrBougo> nvidia GC
08:45 <MrBougo> 2gigs dual channel
08:45 <MrBougo> 9 cells
08:45 <MrBougo> 1305€
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08:45 <MrBougo> these dell guys are lame
08:46  * GodTodd is running fine on a $400 laptop :)
08:46 <philippeqc> morning'
08:46 <MrBougo> they ask me if i want no firewall (french version) or no firewall (dutch version)
08:46 <MrBougo> hiho philippeqc
08:46 <MrBougo> GodTodd: i wanna be able to play nexuiz too heh
08:46 <philippeqc> hello Mr B
08:47 <MrBougo> hay
08:47 <MrBougo> harr!
08:48 <philippeqc> Feeling a little pirate today?
08:48 <MrBougo> DrJoeTron: i guess youre playing soe flash game
08:48 <MrBougo> yep, its right next to me, philippeqc
08:48 <DrJoeTron> huh?
08:48 <MrBougo> and i'm feeling it
08:48 <MrBougo> but he doesnt like that
08:48 <MrBougo> some flash game*
08:48 <philippeqc> ;)
08:48 <DrJoeTron> what are you talking about
08:48 <MrBougo> dunno, youre the flash game guy here Joe
08:49 <MrBougo> so what's the best flash game in your opinion
08:49 <DrJoeTron> elf bowling 13
08:50 <MrBougo> the hell
08:50 <MrBougo> but you have to download it :(
08:50 <MrBougo> any browser flash game?
08:52 <DrJoeTron> i was kidding
08:53 <philippeqc> youtube is a fun browser flash thingy
09:33 <MrBougo> wee
09:33 <MrBougo> linerider
09:33 <MrBougo> just done a stupid track
09:34 <MrBougo> with a wheelie!
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09:42 <tramshed__> die tramshed.
09:47 <MrBougo> :p
09:47 <MrBougo> /ns ghost tramshed <password>
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10:06 <MrBougo> tramshed__:
10:06 <MrBougo> you can nick back
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10:10 <tramshed> woot
10:10 <MrBougo> :
10:10 <MrBougo> =D
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10:10 <tramshed> this vid card gets 850fps in tron with everything on/maxed at 1680x1050
10:10 <Bougo> does freenode kick the name stealers?
10:11 <tramshed> it changes your nick for you
10:11 <Bougo> ?
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11:39 <MrBougo> im back, fear me
11:39 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
11:39 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
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11:55 <MrBougo> bye
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17:33 <ghableska> #tea
17:33 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): -]0a|Deidara, : ), Bl00d, ~|DS|~ judders
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21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Showers with a few thundershowers ending this evening then cloudy periods. Local amount 15 mm(0.6 in) in thundershowers. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 10C(50F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. (1 more message)
21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather mexico
21:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:00 <Vanhayes> #weather mexico city
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Zona Poniente D.F., Mexico, Mexico is 68.2°F (2:03 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Rising).
21:01 <Vanhayes> #weather cairo
21:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EEST; Clear. High:96 ° F. / 36 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Clear. High:95 ° F. / 35 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:93 ° F. / 34 ° C.; Clear. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.;
21:01 <HellBlade-Arma> #weather 92037
21:01 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 78.4°F (12:04 PM PDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Falling).
21:01 <HellBlade-Arma> yay it's cool today
21:02 <Vanhayes> same here, its been raining all day
21:02 <Vanhayes> #more
21:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: 40 percent chance of showers late in the day. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). High 19C(66F). UV index 6 or high. Sunday night cloudy periods. Low 8C(46F).; Monday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 18C(64F).;
21:02 <HellBlade-Arma> your lucky there isn't a south wind ;P
21:03 <Vanhayes> why? whats in the south?
21:04 <HellBlade-Arma> hmmm?
21:05 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen Oblivion
21:05 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: ~*SP*~Oblivion seems to be on  Wild West  =Sumo= right now.
21:05 <HellBlade-Arma> I knew it lol
21:06 <HellBlade-Arma> #lastseen monkey
21:06 <armabot> HellBlade-Arma: sp.monkey-devil seems to be on  Wild West  =Sumo= right now.
21:06 <Vanhayes> hmm, monkey as in the monkey who plays fort all the time?
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21:54 <HellBlade-Arma> no
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 91.2°F (3:26 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> dean isn't going to hit us
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's just going to bounce off central texas and hit someone else, if it gets this far north (we're in the projected track, but not until thursday, which means we can't rely on the projections yet)
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22:53 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:53 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 87.3°F (3:53 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Falling).
23:05 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6953374.stm <-- "A man in Florida surprised police by handing in a surface-to-air missile launcher during a gun amnesty in the city of Orlando."
23:08 <xfroggy> lol I'd have some fun first :D
23:08 <ghableska> I think that was a crappy trade
23:08 <ghableska> a missile launcher for designer footwear? o_O
23:08 <xfroggy> lol, must be expensive
23:08 <ghableska> must be
23:08 <ghableska> Vanhayes: ping
23:09 <xfroggy> with the amount of guns they found, he could of created his own little army :D
23:09 <ghableska> haha
23:14 <ghableska> http://subservientchicken.com/
23:14 <ghableska> hmmm
23:29 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:29 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 99.9°F (4:35 PM CDT on August 18, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect from 1 PM to 8 PM CDT Sunday...
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23:33 <blahblah161> test
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