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Log from 2007-07-24:
--- Day changed Tue Jul 24 2007
00:00 <digitx> oh new epsy word
00:00 <digitx> Pitoyable.
00:00 <digitx> #m epsy Pitoyable.
00:00 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
00:01 -!- loserbar [n=loop@user-12lct4t.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
00:01 <loserbar> hi everyone
00:02 <epsy> hi loserbar
00:02 <loserbar> hey
00:02 <digitx> hay
00:02 <digitx> epsy is bot
00:02 <digitx> look ..
00:02 <loserbar> haha nice
00:02 <epsy> what good news brings you here ? =)
00:02 <epsy> digitx: stfu
00:02 <digitx> xD
00:02 <digitx> u see?
00:02 <digitx> he is bot
00:02 <digitx> i'm CIABOT!
00:02 <loserbar> arent we all?
00:02 <digitx> xD
00:03  * epsy slaps digitx thrice
00:03 <digitx> better
00:03 <digitx> xD
00:03 <digitx> slap bot
00:03 <digitx> i'm CIA
00:03 <digitx> so
00:03 <digitx> i'm better
00:03 <digitx> D:
00:03  * epsy throws a large trout on digitx 
00:03 <digitx> and i'm floodbot
00:03 <digitx> so
00:03 <digitx> sorry
00:03 <digitx> xD
00:03 <loserbar> as kurt vonnegut said, we are machines made of meat :oD
00:03 <digitx> :o)
00:03 <digitx> xD
00:03 <digitx> hihihihhihii :o)
00:03 <epsy> heh, nice indeed =P
00:03 <epsy> #q
00:03 <armabot> epsy: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
00:03 <digitx> #q
00:03 <armabot> digitx: Quote #41: "<spidey> hmm  <GodTodd> stfu spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:32 AM, January 02, 2007)
00:04 <digitx> xD
00:04 <digitx> rofl
00:04 <digitx> hmm
00:04 <digitx> stfu digitx
00:04 <digitx> xD
00:04 <epsy> digitx: stfu
00:04 <loserbar> yes lets all stfu lol
00:04 <epsy> :O
00:04 <epsy> #q
00:04 <armabot> epsy: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
00:04 <digitx> epsy: stfu
00:04 <digitx> :0
00:04 <epsy> :O
00:04 <digitx> LOL
00:04 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["*wink*"]
00:05 <epsy> deja_vu quit normally...wtf
00:05 <epsy> #q
00:05 <armabot> epsy: Quote #45: "better an idiot that can admit it than a luke-jr....er, idiot that can't --GodTodd" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:35 AM, March 12, 2007)
00:06 <epsy> #q
00:06 <armabot> epsy: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
00:06 <loserbar> so is this the official armagetronad chat? is there a seperate dev one?
00:06 <epsy> #q
00:06 <armabot> epsy: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
00:07 <epsy> more or less yeah x)
00:07 <epsy> there are many other chans around this one
00:07 <loserbar> well yeah i figured that
00:07 <epsy> #afl #crazy-tronners
00:07 <loserbar> i guess i just got lucky and found this one first
00:07 <armabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
00:07 <epsy> errr
00:07 <epsy> and more and more
00:08 <loserbar> yeah, server specific i gather?
00:08 <epsy> ?
00:08 <loserbar> nothing.
00:09 <epsy> kk ^_^
00:09 <epsy> #armaservers
00:09 <armabot> epsy: This data is 14 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (9/12), Norm's Place (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/10), GEMINI PROJECT (6/8), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (5/12), G-Land (5/8), (1 more message)
00:10 <loserbar> well ill be back i need coffee...
00:10 <epsy> #cyborg loserbar
00:10 <armabot> epsy: L.O.S.E.R.B.A.R.: Lifeform Optimized for Scientific Exploration, Rational Battle and Accurate Repair
00:11 <loserbar> hahahaha
00:11 <loserbar> yeah like im going to cater to scienc
00:11 <loserbar> e
00:11 <epsy> =P
00:11 <epsy> #cyborg
00:11 <armabot> epsy: E.P.S.Y.: Electronic Person Skilled in Yelling
00:11 <loserbar> ill be back guys :)
00:11 <epsy> x)
00:11 <epsy> cu
00:12 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo shrunk
00:12 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (4/6): !Crash!, matthew, meower, Rusben
00:14 <epsy> cu
00:14 <epsy> #night
00:14 <armabot> Good night epsy!
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01:15 <DrJoeTron> i think my motherboard just ate 2 USB mass storage devices
01:17 <|Sticky|> why blame the motherboard??  were they actualy electronicly fried?
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01:30 <P4> http://web.archive.org/web/20030503213458/www.defekt.gabo.pl/kiwi_i_remik.GIF <=- HAHAHA! take a look at me 5 years ago... OMG :D
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> hey
01:30 <P4> hi Lucifer_arma
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> um
01:31 <Fonkay> hi
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> code hunter's clan's website is hosted in the US.  we could send them an actual DMCA takedown notice :)
01:32 <Fonkay> why?
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751
01:33 <Fonkay> the stealing?
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  since they violated the GPL, the only license they have now to the program is the default one that comes with copyright law (and varies by jurisdiction)
01:34 <noob7> did he ever respond? I can understand you being angry and all, but was he even active since you guys replied to the topic?
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> see, the beauty of the GPL is that it gets revoked automatically, it's built-in, so we don't have to do anything for that to happen
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> he hasn't responded, but his page looks different now than it did when I posted my reply
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also not suggesting sending a DMCA notice right now, just saying that we can if we really want to
01:35 <noob7> hm, I'd try getting in touch with him and explain things... sure it's been a bitch move on his part and all but ye
01:35 <noob7> yeah gotcha ;)
01:36 <noob7> I think the whole thing is rather interesting, has anything like this ever happened before in the arma community?
01:36 <noob7> (besides people posting patches for armabell etc)
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> only once, and itwasn't quite like this
01:36 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: what'd he do?
01:37 <noob7> what was it about? modified client as well?
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> iceman hacked the executable directly awhile back, but he didn't try to claim copyright over everything, and in his case, literally the executable was the source he worked with
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01:37 <noob7> the "tighter binds" hack?
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> so he couldn't really comply with the GPL because it didn't cover his case
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> that might be it, I thought it was a color hack
01:37 <noob7> I only remember that iceman hack, maybe Im wrong
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> there might be more, I just remember someone asking for the source and him saying he couldn't give it because he used a hex editor to hack it :)
01:38 <noob7> still I am really interested in how you guys will deal with this
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> I wasn't on the project then, but I remember tank and the others deciding to ignore it, neither condoning nor attempting to restrict
01:39 <noob7> and me actually pointed someone in the direction of the iceman tighter binds hack a few days ago :/
01:40 <noob7> ...but the file is down anyways so no damage done
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's a curious situation on its own
01:40 <noob7> yes, exactly - It's rather interesting :D
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> on the one hand, you don't want to promote hacking the code down at that level because you wind up with executables that are not only unreliable, but impossible to troubleshoot, added support problems, and no way to sanity check what's being done
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> on the other hand, the GPL doesn't really cover it, because it assumes the binary is not human readable (but is to iceman), and you want to allow that sort ofthing under the spirit of the gpl and all
01:41 <noob7> just ask him to join the dev team :D
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> he may have been on the dev team at the time he did that, I don't really know :)
01:42 <noob7> oh ok, talking about iceman...
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> he's now MIA, and his site's gone, so it's moot
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, me too :)
01:42 <noob7> I still have no clue what ever happened to him
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm kind of working on what our options are with code hunter
01:42 <Vanhayes> hmm, Fonkay you wouldn't be going to evolve by any chance would you?
01:43 <Fonkay> no.. when is it?
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, the only reason I'm surprised with this is because I didn't expect him to actually manage to build the program, let alone change any code
01:43 <noob7> hehe I see what you mean - but then again his name is "code hunter" right? :p
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, he talks like someone who just learned how to write 10 PRINT "Hello, World!" and thinks thatmakeshim a programmer
01:43 <Vanhayes> in about 2 weeks
01:43 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: if this code hunter guy keeps it up, I wouldn't be opposed to a takedown
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> goes around trying to sell people free websites
01:44 <Fonkay> i hadn't planned on it.. but Im poor.. why, are you going?
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> that being a dead giveaway :)
01:44 <noob7> he does? I haven't actually looked at his site
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> he also tried to build a better forum that tried to supercede ours, but last I checked he still didn't have any members other than tire-kickers
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> it wouldn't surprise me if his new clan only has one member :)
01:45 <Vanhayes> hoping to, i need to find someone who has a car around here and is going
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: stick your thumb out
01:45 <Vanhayes> its in the next province
01:45 <Vanhayes> and I can only get a few days off work
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> so plan for it to take a little longer
01:45 <DrJoeTron> this fucking blows
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok
01:45 <DrJoeTron> i just lost 2 usb drives :(
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> do they have gps?
01:46 <noob7> external harddisks or flash?
01:46 <noob7> lol lucifer
01:46 <DrJoeTron> flash
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that wouldn't help since gps can be inaccurate by a few yards
01:46 <DrJoeTron> 7/23 NEVER FORGET
01:46 <Fonkay> I have my own car, but it's not a province away, so i don't have to worry about it
01:46 <noob7> joetron has been marked by SA
01:46 <DrJoeTron> hey node
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> so basically our options are:
01:46 <noob7> ;)
01:47 <DrJoeTron> i saw you got on probation :V
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> 1.  Tell everyone about it :)
01:47 <noob7> hows you joe?
01:47 <DrJoeTron> annoyed at myself
01:47 <noob7> yeah got probation... not entering any of those political debates anymore  from now on
01:47 <DrJoeTron> cause i wired up the usb ports wrong
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> 2.  Master server ban (has its own problems, and after we've made such a big deal about not doing this to smegheads ingame......)
01:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah i don't bother with DnD
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> 3.  DMCA takedown notice (followed by nothing at all, because none of us are going to sue him over this)
01:47 <noob7> it was in gbs :(
01:47 <DrJoeTron> it was?
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> #seen n54
01:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 5 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 58 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
01:47 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: um, we can't master server ban
01:48  * noob7 votes 3 just for the comedy aspect
01:48 <DrJoeTron> laff not in it vote 1
01:48 <noob7> yeah... I quoted for truth, should have known better
01:48 <DrJoeTron> yeah
01:48 <luke-jr_work> if #3, via Google ;)
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> if only doing option 1 isn't enough to deal with this guy, then we've got other problems anyway
01:49 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: option 2 is technically impossible, I think
01:49 <luke-jr_work> see the april fools' thread on why
01:49 <DrJoeTron> welp
01:49 <DrJoeTron> my usb printer works
01:50 <DrJoeTron> and it has a card reader...
01:50 <noob7> are they really "dead" joe?
01:50 <DrJoeTron> yes
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> they're not mostly dead?
01:50 <noob7> c:/
01:50 <DrJoeTron> i tried every port and checked a different computer
01:50 <DrJoeTron> same error message
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> did you try putting a filesystem on them?
01:50 <DrJoeTron> i cant even get to them
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> what's the error message?
01:50 <Vanhayes> well I think i might just give my 2 weeks notice, hitch out there, then have a week or two of time off before I head out west
01:51 <Fonkay> wow, van hayes. I didn't realize that evolve wasnt anywheres near halifax.
01:51 <DrJoeTron> all they do is say "One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned.
01:51 <DrJoeTron> Fonkay ceti alpha is in halifax too
01:51 <Fonkay> I thought it was just on the outskirts somewheres
01:51 <Fonkay> ceti alpha?
01:51 <DrJoeTron> heah
01:51 <noob7> maybe they commited suicide joe?
01:51 <DrJoeTron> apparently
01:51 <DrJoeTron> OH THANK GOD the micro sd card still works
01:51 <DrJoeTron> good thing i didnt plug it in
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> I hocked my brain....headed west!
01:52 <Vanhayes> evolves in antigonish
01:52 <Fonkay> what/who is ceti alpha?
01:52 <Vanhayes> isnt that a star?
01:52 <noob7> sounds like a nerd fest
01:52 <DrJoeTron> armagetimatron
01:52 <Fonkay> yea. I didn't realize that til now.. if my friend hadn't moved back to the netherlands for the summer, I would have gone with her, but she did... soo
01:52 <Vanhayes> evolve is a huge jamband festivak
01:52 <DrJoeTron> hah
01:53 <noob7> talking bout ceti alpha
01:53 <Vanhayes> er festival* not festivak
01:53 <DrJoeTron> all the drives do is get warm
01:53 <Vanhayes> no clue what a festivak is
01:53 <DrJoeTron> really warm
01:53 <noob7> fest I fuck... yeah I know how festivals work
01:53 <DrJoeTron> never go "lol lets see if my usb ports i just hooked up wurk :V"
01:53 <noob7> nv, I'm off guys I cant contribute anything anyways
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> why?  I"m not you, so it would probably work fine for me
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i think i hooked them up completely wrong
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> are you sure those were actual usb ports you plugged into?  ;)
01:54 <DrJoeTron> yes :)
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i think i wired them wrong
01:54 <DrJoeTron> so
01:54 <DrJoeTron> woops
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i disconnected them so that never happens again
01:54 <noob7> but trying a second drive after the first died... joe!
01:55 <DrJoeTron> i had to make sure!
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> first was a mistake, second was <what?>.
01:55 <noob7> right.... lol
01:55 <Fonkay> My computer is still fucked.. anyone know what makes a computer broken unless it's lying on it's side?
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> loose connection?
01:56 <noob7> sarcastic answers aside? the user ...
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'vegot a motherboard with a hairline crack in it that makes it stop working when it heats up
01:56 <Fonkay> I looked inside, and everything seems to be tight.. unless it's something I can't see.
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> so it'll boot, then shut off
01:56 <Vanhayes> aw, sarcastic answers aside? your no fun
01:56 <noob7> :p
01:56 <DrJoeTron> but other usb devices work
01:56 <Fonkay> I didn't say it.
01:56 <DrJoeTron> the flash drives dont
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'm serious about a loose connection
01:56 <DrJoeTron> i tried every other ports
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> like in a capacitor or something
01:57 <Fonkay> Oh.. boo.
01:57 <DrJoeTron> i'll have to check
01:57 <noob7> the yellow pages fix those problems
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> because when it sits on it's side, the board lays flat and gravity can correct for that to some extent
01:57 <DrJoeTron> im gonna buy a shitty usb drive and plug it in
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> stand it up, and gravity wants everything to fall parallel to the board
01:57 <noob7> can I fedex one joe?
01:57 <Fonkay> If it's upright it just boots itself over and over... but if it's lying on it's side, it works fine
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> loose heat sink
01:57 <DrJoeTron> its only gonna be a 32 meg one
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> make sure the cpu heat sink is tight
01:57 <Fonkay> where would that be located?
01:57 <noob7> I want to fedex one :( with a fake sender adress
01:57 <DrJoeTron> well to be honest Lucifer_arma i think its completely my fault
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> Fonkay: on top of the cpu?  :)
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> it'll be the biggest piece inside the case, usually with a fan on top
01:58 <Lucifer_arma> er, biggest piece that's on the motherboard
01:58 <Fonkay> ok.
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01:58 <Lucifer_arma> with a teeny tiny chip under it that contains millions of transistors
01:58 <DrJoeTron> bbl
01:58 <Fonkay> I dunno.. sure wish my new one was coming sooner rather than later.. stupid 20 year old computers.
01:59 <noob7> it's so sad this chat takes of whenever I should be going to bed :(
01:59 <noob7> bye joe
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm about to grab a smoke, that usually kills chat even when I'm not participating
01:59 <noob7> dont go outside to smoke then?
01:59 <Fonkay> yea, I have to be going anyhow, it's nearly bedtime.
02:00 <Fonkay> I'll go mess around with my computer a bit and then crash, hope it works this time.
02:00 <Fonkay> adios
02:00 <noob7> yellow pages
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02:00 <noob7> just hit it
02:00 <noob7> aw
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02:04 <noob7> has anyone besides sylv ever tried building somekind of admin thingie to start and stop arma instances via "the web" ?
02:05 <noob7> I know how to run an .sh via .php but is there some "finished" scripts to work with?
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> spidey has
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> nice try keeping chat going while I smoked
02:14 <digitx> .
02:15 <digitx> luke-jr, ping
02:15 <digitx> luke-jr|work, ping
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05:44 <GodTodd> is it wrong to hate harry potter?
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> no
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> but it is wrong, at least in the US, to think for yourself
05:52 <GodTodd> k...just checking :)
05:53 <GodTodd> heh
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06:01 <Lucifer_arma> To find reference information about the words used in this article, double-click on any word, phrase or name. A new window will open with a dictionary definition or encyclopedia entry.
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's neat
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's on nytimes
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06:05 <Durka> mkzelda: You here yet? ;)
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07:56 <Angel-H> wrtlprnft are you here by any chance ?
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08:13 <MrBougo> hi there
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> hi from here
08:17 <MrBougo> ew
08:17 <MrBougo> what time is it "here"?
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> 1:24am
08:18 <Angel-H> hi :)
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> what time is it there?
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> hi angel
08:18 <Angel-H> hi Lucifer, hows things ?
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> good, mostly.  you?
08:19 <MrBougo> there? it's also 1:24am
08:19 <Angel-H> grrrrrrrr cos my servers are down, i need tank to wake up :P
08:19 <MrBougo> but here it's 8:22 am
08:19 <Angel-H> heres its 7.22am
08:19 <MrBougo> oh
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> can't you just walk down to his dorm and knock on his door?
08:19 <MrBougo> portugal?
08:20 <MrBougo> #call tank
08:20 <Angel-H> Lucifer if only :P
08:20 <Angel-H> im in the UK MrBougo
08:20 <MrBougo> oooh
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's something else to complain about:  http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751
08:20 <MrBougo> heh, crazy
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's like being bitten by ants.  It's irritating as piss.
08:22 <MrBougo> "It could work for linux too."
08:22 <MrBougo> aaaaahaaaaa
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> sure, if he gave us the source :)
08:22 <MrBougo> wouldnt work!
08:22 <MrBougo> it patches the binary
08:22 <MrBougo> i guess....
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't look too closely at it, but his instructions are to save it over your existing copy
08:23 <MrBougo> if he gave us a .patch it could work
08:23 <MrBougo> oh hey right
08:23 <MrBougo> it isnt even a patch
08:24 <MrBougo> teehee @ the GPL related posts
08:24 <MrBougo> you owned that guy
08:25 <MrBougo> aha, his nick is "Code Hunters" :p
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he's the same guy that started his own forums, posted a few really short how-tos on them, and then came and said his forums were better than ours
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I don't even know if those forums are still running
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's still there, and still badly credits the game developers
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> his hit counter is already up to 512
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> since february
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> or at least since he put it there
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.w-w-c.net/misc/internz.gif
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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08:59 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm letting a small annoyance bother me too much
09:00 <MrBougo> http://www.w-w-c.net/misc/internz.gif => who did that?
09:00 <MrBougo> that's paintish
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> joe
09:02 <MrBougo> hehe
09:02 <MrBougo> he's a MS paint pro
09:02 <MrBougo> but where are the lens flares? and the flames?
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> why would you want that stuff?
09:03 <MrBougo> oh you don't remember
09:03 <MrBougo> when joe talked about the perfect ava
09:04 <MrBougo> with flames and lens flares and stuff
09:04 <MrBougo> #realchatlogs
09:04 <armabot> MrBougo: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
09:05 <MrBougo> i'm downloading them all then searching with notepad ++ :p
09:05 <MrBougo> notepad ++ is a pretty nice solution to search stuff in text files with windows
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09:10 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/log-2006-12-04.txt at 16:10
09:10 <MrBougo> here it is
09:10 <MrBougo> "most of them are consisting of flames, pot leaves, motion blur, and lens flares"
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> um, that's a conversation between joe and spidey, and joe is definitely bitching about motion blur and lens flares
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> in signatures :)
09:12 <MrBougo> yup, sigs.... thought it was about avas
09:12 <MrBougo> but he's right, lens flares rock!
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> he's bitching about them!
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> complaining about gawdy signature graphics!
09:13 <MrBougo> i know!
09:13 <MrBougo> me too!
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> um, "rock" is generally a Good Thing
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> like, "Dude, my wife rocks my cock"
09:14 <MrBougo> yep, but "rocks" works with irony, doesnt it?
09:14 <MrBougo> :p
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> sure, but I"m not seeing it :)
09:14 <MrBougo> ew
09:15 <MrBougo> <DrJoeTron> all you need is lens flare <DrJoeTron> and put it on EVERYTHING <+spidey> ? <DrJoeTron> and everyone wil know you're a pro!
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09:57 <guru3> anyone happen to be on the gamesurge irc network?
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> sure, but not me
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> why?
09:58 <guru3> that's what that guy from the forum wants
09:58 <guru3> for us to move to gamesurge
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> what guy?
09:58 <MrBougo> and why
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh, that guy
09:59 <guru3> the guy who wanted to know who the admin was
09:59 <MrBougo> freenode is good, isnt it
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> if it would be useful, we could try to get wrtlprnft to get armabot to relay between the two
10:00 <guru3> we've tried that before
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's no reason to move that I can see, but we can add, I think
10:00 <guru3> we tried that with a three way relay between here, quakenet, and efnet
10:01 <guru3> why not just connect every single known irc network so we can really confuse ourselves :/
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:01 <guru3> only other network i would consider being on is OFTC
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm not in a hurry to move, and freenode is known friendly to open source projects
10:02 <MrBougo> why would gamesurge be better?
10:02 <guru3> that's what i thought when i started the channel here
10:02 <guru3> MrBougo, I don't know.
10:03 <guru3> I really don't.
10:04 <MrBougo> bah, why should we move then
10:04 <guru3> I'm planning on replying asking that.
10:04 <MrBougo> hehe
10:04 <MrBougo> i see more disavantages than advantages
10:04 <MrBougo> actually i don't see any advantage
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see any advantage either, but if there should be one, armabot can relay...
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's how they do the supybot channel, and it works fairly well
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> a little disorienting at first, though
10:05 <guru3> He lists a chat client on the website as the advantage, I think.
10:05 <MrBougo> indeed
10:05 <MrBougo> heh...
10:05 <guru3> "pjIRC"
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> one chat client on the gamesurge website?
10:05 <MrBougo> you can have a chat client on the site on freenode too
10:05 <guru3> If we really wanted to do that... we could...
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, we have like a billion chat clients scattered over all sorts of community websites
10:05 <MrBougo> erhm, guru3, pjirc works pretty well with freenode afaik
10:05 <guru3> There was one... until we *ahem*, er, banned it...
10:06  * guru3 looks in Lucifer's direction
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> durka's always linking to a java-based client that runs on the user's machine, if they have java installed
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, we should probably unban the nixda one sometime :)
10:07 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: pjirc is a java client :)
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
10:07 <guru3> before the world dominating germans come and try and kick our asses? yes I think so too
10:07 <@Lucifer_arma> er, how do I unban something?
10:07 <@Lucifer_arma> :)
10:07 <MrBougo> set mode -b
10:07 <guru3> I use /bans to get a list of bans and then /unban # on list to do it/
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*@*.serverkompetenz.net] by guru3
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> client specific, apparently
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by guru3
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by guru3
10:07 <MrBougo> yup
10:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
10:07 <MrBougo> but /mode -b is universal
10:08 <guru3> why the hell doesn't /deop * deop yourself as well.
10:08 <MrBougo> dunno :p
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:08 <MrBougo> technical reasons maybe
10:08 <guru3> next time that happens i'm going to fucking modify irssi
10:08 <MrBougo> deop yourself before the others
10:08 <MrBougo> i'm out
10:08 <MrBougo> bye!
10:08 <guru3> cu
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10:10 <guru3> "I know you already have one, but It would be better in more than one server."
10:10 <guru3> it = #armagetron
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's the guy that looks like a spammer?
10:10 <guru3> yeah
10:11 <guru3> and why does he think i can magically make this decision on my own
10:11 <guru3> well... i suppose i could, if i wanted to piss loads of people off
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he's code hunter in disguise?
10:12 <guru3> haha
10:12 <guru3> that made me laugh
10:13 <guru3> i'm going to play it technical and say #freenode consists of more than one server
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, if you read the history, freenodeis the parent of all irc networks anyway
10:13 <guru3> and that crazy finnish dude the parent of irc
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> I take it back, because I can't find the wikipedia article that shows the history of irc networks
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> The user base contains a large number of clans who participate in a wide variety of games. Among the more popular games on GameSurge are Counter-Strike: Source, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, and Call of Duty
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> looks like a reason *not* to get onto gamesurge to me
10:17 <guru3> yeah, i don't think if you were looking for armagetron you'd join gamesurge
10:17 <guru3> you'd join freenode
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you're just a gamer who doesn't give a rat's ass about free software (other than price), you might look on gamesurge
10:18 <guru3> well the worst bit is he says he already has the channel
10:18 <guru3> which means we'd be at his mercy
10:18 <guru3> i'm not fond of that
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'm with you on that.  total stranger wants to carve out his own little chunk of the community?  be my guest, but don't expect us to help.  :)
10:20 <guru3> i've spent YEARS 'carving out my chunk'
10:20 <guru3> building up piece by piece until i was a keystone
10:21 <guru3> all that's left to do is sell it all and make loads of money xD
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> haha
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> what I actually find really amazing is the high degree of independent thinking that's here
10:22 <guru3> 'here' being IRC or the project or the forums or for this guy...?
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> community in general, believe it or not
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> the sheep in our community are leaders compared to the average american
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> even the timid ones :)
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10:23 <guru3> heh, well, when i started the forums i never thought it'd go like it did
10:23 <guru3> that something would actually become of it
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, normally when you decide to herd a bunch of cats, you don't expect them to go anywhere you're trying to go
10:23 <guru3> let alone become the de facto home of armagetron
10:23 <guru3> i installed phpbb and emailed about 5 server admins
10:24 <guru3> those are our humble roots
10:24 <guru3> only one ever replied
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> 20% response?  That's amazing!  :)
10:25 <guru3> especially for what i now know was a screwed up smtp server that i don't think managed to deliver half the mails
10:25 <guru3> i took a running jump off the end of a cliff and prayed there was water at the bottom
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> let's keep this praying stuff to ourselves, ok?
10:26 <guru3> *whistles*
10:26 <guru3> you know the server the forums is on has almost 600 days of uptime?
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> really?
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like you need a kernel upgrade
10:27 <guru3> that's like 99.8% uptime for the forums
10:27 <Lucifer_arma> guy in #qt wants to know how to put a gradient in the background of a label
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> this is after he wanted a splitter where one side of the splitter doesn't resize when you resize the splitter
10:28 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if he's code hunter...
10:28 <guru3> what?
10:29 <guru3> that's like...
10:29 <guru3> stupid
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, I sometimes wonder what i'd do if I had a server with a large uptime
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> then I realize that's physically impossible for me, I have to fuck with it too much
10:29 <guru3> oh it's killing me it'll be going down for maintanence in a bit
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have a suspicion that code hunter trolled us so that some names around here would register on his clan's site so he can try to use it to give his clan some special legitimacy
10:32 <guru3> well, it's not me :>
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> nor I, as much as this is irritating me (it's a low level irritant, just constant, like a toothache), I only made it to crazy-tronners before I lost interest
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> and I only have accounts on some of these other sites so I could pimp afl :)
10:33 <guru3> ><
10:33 <guru3> sent a reply to spam-look-a-like-dude
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> should I write a post explaining why some first posts look like spam and others don't?
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> I have to admit, it's mildly entertaining to call someone's post spam when it's not
10:35 <guru3> i'm not too fussed
10:35 <guru3> if it's not obviously spam i usually leave it
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> do we have a posting guidelines page somewhere?  Maybe you could just add something that says "TO avoid looking like spam if you've never posted here, you should put the word armagetron somewhere in your post"
10:36 <guru3> that's not a bad idea
10:37 <guru3> but we don't actually have posting guidelines
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> oh.  well, if we ever get any, let's try to remember that.  :)
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I've read the gamesurge article on wikipedia 4 times now, and I'm sure of two things
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> 1)  we shouldn't waste our time with it
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> 2)  I need to go to bed, because I just read the article 4 times
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10:55 <spidey> DrJoeTron, smells
10:59 <DrJoeTron> probably
10:59 <spidey> !
11:00 <spidey> i'm beginning to like warrock again
11:00 <spidey> :D
11:00 <spidey> only problem is, there latest patch fucked urban ops, and battle group up
11:01 <spidey> because they wanted dual barettas
11:01 <spidey> so they broke the 2 game modes
11:18 <DrJoeTron> haha
11:19 <DrJoeTron> i havent played many video games
11:29 <spidey> one thing i love about warrock
11:29 <spidey> everyone seems to die from lag
11:29 <spidey> because, i mean NOONE COULD EVER BE LEGITAMENTLY KILLED!
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12:26 <noob7> hi
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12:37 <wrtlprnft> Angel-H: now i'm here, if that helps
12:37 <wrtlprnft> Angel-H: you missed me by about 20 minutes
12:38 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: another network? wtf? what for?
12:38 <Angel-H> hi and so sorry, i forgot this was open :P
12:39 <wrtlprnft> i just got home from school
12:40 <Angel-H> i think its sort of sorted, i am having major server issues, but tank has been amazing and has been able to get one working for me
12:41 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
12:41 <guru3> the stupid httpd isn't running
12:41 <Angel-H> how are you  ? and how do you do it so its to the persons name ?
12:41 <Angel-H> guru on my server ?
12:42  * Angel-H is confused :P
12:42 <guru3> yeah that's the problem
12:42 <guru3> the web server isn't running
12:42 <guru3> so you can't start/stop the servers properly
12:43 <guru3> you tube is utter shit
12:44 <guru3> because aparently i am inelligable to register
12:44 <Angel-H> im registerd if you want to use my login
12:44 <guru3> could i please?
12:44 <Angel-H> if i can remember it
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12:44 <Angel-H> one mo
12:45 <guru3> thanks
12:46 <eddiefantastic> Hi Angel-H, how's things?
12:46 <Angel-H> user whispersangel
12:46 <guru3> do pm me the password
12:46 <guru3> and not write it here
12:46 <eddiefantastic> server problems again, huh?
12:47 <Angel-H> lol yes :P
12:47 <Angel-H> and hi eddiefantastic, how are you ? :)
12:47 <eddiefantastic> good thanks
12:47 <eddiefantastic> battling away with windows vista for a work machine
12:47 <wrtlprnft> !
12:48 <eddiefantastic> it's so automated, it's difficult to actually do anything
12:48 <wrtlprnft> Sincerest condolences.
12:48 <eddiefantastic> oh, it's hung again :(
12:48 <guru3> and i get why i was inelligable for an account now
12:48 <guru3> gosh that's stupid
12:48 <guru3> they should really tell you that shit instead of just saying inelligable
12:48 <guru3> trying to sign up with a gmail address -_-
12:48 <wrtlprnft> what?
12:48 <wrtlprnft> youtube is owned by google
12:49 <guru3> not something that pops into my head immediately
12:49 <wrtlprnft> so is gmail
12:49 <guru3> but you think they could have a better error message
12:50 <guru3> got to go use a not gmail address then
12:51  * wrtlprnft still doesn't understand why they won't let you sign up with their own email addresses
12:53 <guru3> you have to link accounts
12:53 <guru3> and aparently they can't tell you this
12:53 <guru3> aparently
12:53 <guru3> even if you try to use another email account (not gmail)
12:53 <guru3> and have the gmail cookie
12:53 <guru3> you still can't register
12:53 <guru3> either that or they force you to sign up for their email news letter
12:54 <guru3> so instead i'm borrowing angels account (thnx a ton)
12:54 <wrtlprnft> how can youtube.com read cookies from gmail.com?
12:54 <guru3> i have no clue
12:54 <guru3> i can't think of another reason for not being elligable to sign up though
12:54 <Angel-H> use it as much as you want guru3 :)
12:55 <guru3> either way, another reason i don't like youtube
12:55 <guru3> but i also can't think of a better way to not host this video myself
12:55 <guru3> curses on you internet
12:59 <noob7> bugmenot.com can come in hndy guru
12:59 <noob7> *handy
13:00 <guru3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PT8gVioeaQ
13:00 <Angel-H> what did you film it with ?
13:01 <guru3> my dad's cell phone
13:01 <noob7> looks like a cellphone :p
13:15 <noob7> since DHL found out that I am at before 15:00 most of the time - most of the packags delivered to our building are left with me :/
13:15 <noob7> *home
13:16 <noob7> I need to get a spycam to see when it's the driver ringing the doorbell so I can pretend I'm not home/working
13:28 <epsy> what the
13:28 <epsy> omg...
13:31 <epsy> seems gparted stopped or smth
13:47 <epsy> so i'm gonna wait 10 hours more
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14:18 <MrBougo> hiho
14:37 <epsy> #afl
14:37 <armabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
14:37 <epsy> #afl
14:37 <armabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
14:38 <epsy> #ping
14:38 <armabot> pong
14:38 <epsy> :O
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14:39 <epsy> #afl
14:39 <armabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League |--| Results: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Spring_Results |--| Schedule: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Schedule |--| Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar |--| Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers
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15:04 <epsy> hay hoop_tron
15:04 <hoop_tron> hi
15:05 <hoop_tron> hey, I didnt read my suggestion in philipp thread nor in wiki.
15:05 <hoop_tron> is it anyewhere you know?
15:05 <eddiefantastic> hi hoop
15:06 <epsy> hoop_tron: he said it in some of his post
15:06 <hoop_tron> ok
15:06 <epsy> dunno which one, but he said it
15:06 <hoop_tron> hi eddiefantastic
15:07 <eddiefantastic> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17021
15:07 <hoop_tron> epsy: well, anyway you know if its available by server 2.8 ?
15:07 <epsy> zone effects at the point of .2.8 are:
15:07 <epsy>  death
15:07 <hoop_tron> thx
15:07 <epsy>  win
15:07 <epsy>  fortress
15:07 <epsy> nothing more
15:08 <hoop_tron> k
15:08 <eddiefantastic> or towards the end of this one:
15:08 <eddiefantastic> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=10261
15:08 <hoop_tron> no pathces?
15:08 <hoop_tron> *patches
15:08 <epsy> no backport
15:08  * epsy notes it doesn't even work avtually when networked...
15:08 <eddiefantastic> zones v2 won't even run stable as a server yet
15:09 <eddiefantastic> you can run it locally though
15:09  * epsy remembers that commit « Stop the server kicking himself »
15:10 <hoop_tron> that's because all clients should have the right player?
15:10 <eddiefantastic> the right player?
15:10 <eddiefantastic> the right client you mean?
15:10 <hoop_tron> yes
15:11 <hoop_tron> (game player, sry)
15:11 <epsy> hoop_tron: go look a zonesv1 map and look at a zonesv2 map...look at the difference
15:11 <eddiefantastic> no, I've run a local server and connected to it, the zones don't work the way they should
15:11 <hoop_tron> I see
15:12 <eddiefantastic> phillippe is aware of it
15:12 <hoop_tron> it's more complicated than I thought
15:12 <hoop_tron> #t en it aware
15:12 <armabot> hoop_tron: informato
15:12 <epsy> hoop_tron: it's not a patch or whatever, it's something for the next release...
15:13 <epsy> and a backport wouldn't be useful at all at this stage
15:13 <hoop_tron> ok, is it far to be released?
15:13 <eddiefantastic> a lot of work still to do
15:13 <hoop_tron> how can I help?
15:14 <eddiefantastic> it's been wip for over a year
15:14 <eddiefantastic> make some maps ;)
15:14 <eddiefantastic> give some feedback on the forums
15:15 <hoop_tron> I didn't notice which version i shall install, to test the maps
15:15 <epsy> trunk
15:15 <eddiefantastic> you need to checkout the latest svn trunk
15:15 <hoop_tron> ok, I'll look for
15:15 <eddiefantastic> and compile from source
15:16 <hoop_tron> did you see my thread about bash script?
15:16 <epsy> http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=110997
15:17 <hoop_tron> thx
15:18 <hoop_tron> so, in this version the client is stable and server not?
15:19 <epsy> stable is a fragile word
15:19 <eddiefantastic> the server is ok, just not when you use zones v2
15:19 <eddiefantastic> I think
15:19 <eddiefantastic> and the client can't connect to zones v1 servers
15:19 <eddiefantastic> compile using the --prefix flag
15:20 <eddiefantastic> so you'll have a seperate install of arma
15:20 <hoop_tron> exactly flag, or any path I want?
15:20 <eddiefantastic> you will also need to run ./bootstrap.sh before you are able to compile
15:21 <eddiefantastic> ./configure --prefix /path/to/install/dir
15:21 <epsy> hoop_tron: $arma | tee -a $logfile
15:21 <eddiefantastic> run ./configure --help for more options
15:21 <eddiefantastic> there is a --multiver flag or something too, thoughI've not used it
15:21 <hoop_tron> ok, I though flag was a special word for path
15:22 <epsy> eddiefantastic: multiver is generally crap
15:22 <eddiefantastic> I wouldn't know, --prefix works for me
15:22 <epsy> the installer doesn't handle it correctly and you have to fix some paths then
15:23 <hoop_tron> epsy: I already tryied to redirect arma's stdout, without any result
15:23 <hoop_tron> is it the trunk version different?
15:23 <epsy> hoop_tron: just use the command i gave you there
15:24 <epsy> 15:24 < epsy> hoop_tron: $arma | tee -a $logfile
15:25 <hoop_tron> k, I know whats this command is for. I cant answer?
15:25 <hoop_tron> *you
15:26 <epsy> what do you mean by « version different » ?
15:26 <epsy> you mean that it has a different version string sent to servers ? then yes
15:26 <hoop_tron> I mean, if its output is different from the normally used version
15:27 <hoop_tron> 'cos, as I said, I already trid that command to get arma's stdout, without results
15:27 <hoop_tron> I mean with client
15:28 <epsy> the output format hasn't changed in ages
15:31 <hoop_tron> I tryied the command right now and there's nothing in log file
15:31 <epsy> and what pops up in your term ?
15:32 <hoop_tron> ok, i see :)
15:32 <hoop_tron> now
15:33 <epsy> so there's something in your term but not in $logfile ?
15:33 <epsy> now try to ctrl-c your script and the arma server
15:33 <epsy> and try cat $log_file
15:33 <epsy> (do not replace log_file)
15:34 <hoop_tron> omg, you're talking about my thread?
15:34 <epsy> you weren't ?
15:34 <hoop_tron> I thought about the trunk version to test zones v2
15:35  * hoop_tron is got conufused
15:35 <epsy> actually i through we were talking about both :)
15:35 <eddiefantastic> I have no idea what the pair of you are talking about
15:35 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=190211#190211
15:38 <hoop_tron> epsy: I need to start arma in background
15:38 <hoop_tron> to avoid it's output in my console
15:39 <epsy> i through you wanted it to show in your term
15:39 <hoop_tron> nope
15:39 <hoop_tron> I'm developing a command prompt, so I dont want it
15:40 <hoop_tron> To avoid server's stdout displayed, I need to redirect it to a file
15:40 <hoop_tron> or even to /dev/null
15:41 <hoop_tron> but I got the bug I wrote about
15:41 <epsy> well, i don't think you can have the return of console commands ;)
15:41 <epsy> err
15:41 <epsy> so if you try without redirecting, what pops up ?
15:42 <hoop_tron> I get server's output in term
15:42 <epsy> ok
15:42 <epsy> now if you open vim
15:42 <epsy> press insert
15:42 <epsy> and type some shit
15:42 <epsy> then press <esc>:w
15:43 <epsy> what happens ?
15:43 <hoop_tron> using tee ?
15:43 <epsy> no no no xD
15:43 <epsy> use something like:
15:43 <epsy> vim testfile
15:44 <epsy> then press insert, type some shit
15:44 <epsy> then press <esc>:w
15:44 <hoop_tron> vim $armabin ?
15:44 <epsy> no
15:44 <epsy> just some inexistent file
15:44 <digitx> vi epsy
15:44 <digitx> xD
15:44 <digitx> epsy.cfg
15:44 <hoop_tron> k
15:44 <digitx> i edit ur skin
15:44 <digitx> xD
15:45 <digitx> haha epsy xD
15:45 <epsy> stupid digitx
15:45 <digitx> i edit ur face
15:45 <epsy> x)
15:45 <digitx> stupid epsy
15:45 <digitx> fakk u
15:45 <digitx> tais-toi!
15:45 <epsy> huhu
15:45 <digitx> bad epsy
15:45 <digitx> xD
15:45 <epsy> /ignore ftw
15:45 <hoop_tron> "lol.txt" [Nuovo] 1L, 10C scritti                             1,9           Tut
15:46 <epsy> kk...then your hard drive isn't full
15:46 <digitx> xD
15:46 <digitx> epsy, i hate u
15:46 <digitx> :0
15:46 <digitx> Excellent.
15:46 <epsy> ok...now try this:
15:46 <digitx> Indeed!
15:46 <MrBougo> digitx...
15:46 <epsy> digitx: stfu now...
15:46 <epsy> hoop_tron:
15:46 <digitx> xD
15:46 <MrBougo> let's PM digi
15:46 <digitx> ?
15:46 <digitx> never
15:46 <MrBougo> so you let epsy talk
15:46 <digitx> i hate epsy
15:47 <epsy> export $log_file=some/path/to/your/desired/log.file
15:47 <epsy> arma >$log_file
15:47 <epsy> wait some seconds, then ctrl-c it
15:47 <epsy> then do
15:47 <epsy> cat $log_file
15:50 <hoop_tron> err I get an error
15:50 <hoop_tron> bash: export: `=/home/john/Desktop/log.txt': not a valid identifier
15:51 <digitx> hapap
15:51 <digitx> :D
15:53 <epsy> didn't you put two = instead of one ??
15:54 <hoop_tron> nope
15:54 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
15:54 <epsy> hmm
15:55 <hoop_tron> epsy: wanna try the sscript?
15:55 <epsy> i'm on a live CD for now
15:56 <epsy> == i can't
15:56 <MrBougo> hehe
15:56 <MrBougo> what lcd?
15:57 <epsy> system rescue cd
15:57 <epsy> only cd which has recent versions of reiserfsprogs and e2fsprogs
15:57 <epsy> (only one which hasn't a sound server, too)
15:58 <digitx> epsy
15:58 <digitx> live cd?
15:58 <digitx> gentoo ?
15:58 <digitx> xD
15:58 <epsy> hopefully there was firefox 2 and irssi
15:58 <epsy> based on gentoo, yea
15:58 <digitx> livegentoocd!
15:58 <digitx> LOL
15:58 <digitx> na
15:58 <digitx> sabayon?
15:58 <epsy> ??
15:58 <digitx> :|
15:58 <epsy> 16:00 < epsy> system rescue cd
15:58 <digitx> what is livecd name?
15:58 <epsy> 16:00 < epsy> system rescue cd
15:58 <digitx> what is livecd name?
15:58 <digitx> :D
15:59 <epsy> /ignore ftw
15:59 <digitx>  Használat: IGNORE <maszk> <típusok..> <opciók..>
15:59 <digitx>      maszk - a mellőzendő gépek maszkja, például *!*@*.aol.com
15:59 <digitx>      típusok - a mellőzendő adatok típusa, a következők legalább egyike:
15:59 <digitx>              PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL
15:59 <digitx>      opciók - NOSAVE, QUIET
15:59 <digitx> ignore epsy ALL
15:59 <digitx> xD
15:59 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
16:00 <digitx> 404
16:00 <digitx> xD
16:01 <MrBougo> c'est fatigant les cons
16:01 <epsy> en effet
16:01 <MrBougo> je ne parle pas de d machin x
16:01 <MrBougo> pour ne pas qu'il se reconnaisse
16:01 <MrBougo> mais d'un boulet qui veut un serveur nexuiz
16:02 <epsy> oui bon c'est pareil que sur arma tu sais x)
16:03 <MrBougo> xD
16:03 <MrBougo> l'autre il me demande comment ouvrir le port 2600
16:03 <MrBougo> il ne sait meme pas quel firewall il a
16:04 <MrBougo> et je lui expique bien qu'on n'a surement pas le même, et l'autre il fait STP AIDE MOI COMENT ON FAIS
16:05 <epsy> x)
16:05 <MrBougo> mais pitié quoi
16:05 <MrBougo> en plus on dirait que son FW c'est celui de windows
16:05 <MrBougo> le plus pourrax du monde
16:06 <epsy> lol
16:06 <MrBougo> jlui dis de débrancher 2 secondes son FW pour voir sic'est de la que vient le prob
16:06 <epsy> MrBougo: tu sais pkoi je suis sur un livecd ?
16:06 <epsy> LOL
16:07 <epsy> tu sais ce qu'il faut lui dire
16:07 <MrBougo> que donc?
16:07 <epsy> tu lui dis qu'un serveur nexuiz c pa sécurisé et qu'il risque de se faire niquer son systeme
16:07 <MrBougo> là je lui explique pourquoi il voit local:1 sur son IP dans la console serveur
16:07 <epsy> ptdr
16:07 <MrBougo> vas expliquer à ce type que ça vient de TCP/IP
16:08 <MrBougo> "mais pourquoi dans la list de server il y a mi 0 ping"
16:08 <MrBougo> pourquoi t'es en lcd?
16:08 <MrBougo> not@home?
16:09 <epsy> si...
16:09 <epsy> ma partition perso est pleine
16:09 <epsy> je suis en train de déplacer ma part systeme
16:09 <epsy> 8:19 heures restantes
16:09 <epsy> (8h 19m)
16:10 <MrBougo> erf
16:10 <MrBougo> j'espère qu'il n'y aura pas de coupure de courant entre temps
16:11 <MrBougo> garde ton lave linge éteint xD
16:11 <MrBougo> houlà ça devient tendu
16:12 <epsy> MrBougo: gparted avait déjà crashé cte nuit :F
16:12 <MrBougo> ack
16:12 <epsy> putain mon xterm supporte meme pas les accents
16:14 <epsy> « putain de merde de bordel d'enculé de ta mère » --matrix 2
16:14 <MrBougo> ?
16:14 <epsy> (enfin c'était plus long mais j'ai pas pu me souvenir de tout x) )
16:15 <MrBougo> oh-my-god
16:15 <epsy> nn mais je suis en train dme retapper tte la copie de la partition systeme =(
16:15 <MrBougo> epsy, viens sur quakenet
16:15 <MrBougo> #tremulous.fr
16:15 <MrBougo> tu DOIS voir ça
16:15 <epsy> adresse :P
16:15 <MrBougo> irc.quakenet.org
16:15 <MrBougo> err
16:15 <MrBougo> #nexuiz.fr
16:16 <epsy> ^_^
16:16 <epsy> t'y vas régulièrement maintenant ?
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16:16 <MrBougo> pas trop
16:16 <MrBougo> tu te connectes?
16:17 <MrBougo> on ne se connait pas ok?
16:17 <MrBougo> xD
16:17 <epsy> ok ^_^
16:36 <hoop_tron> lol, I tryied to test again the script many times, and I don't get the bug... Is it god loving me?
16:37 <epsy> lol
16:37 <hoop_tron> if writing to the forum gave me luck, I'm gonna write more hhe
16:42 <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower
16:42 <epsy> brb
16:44 <MrBougo> enjoy it
16:44 <MrBougo> i mean...
16:44 <MrBougo> not too much heh
16:48 <hoop_tron> kk, I'll only help there, if I can
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17:22 <epsy> http://stats.break.er/
17:24 <MrBougo> pffff on l'a eu
17:24 <MrBougo> fatigant
17:24 <MrBougo> 1h30 la dessus
17:24 <MrBougo> je devais tel pour mon job etudiant et j'ai oublié
17:24 <MrBougo> c'est pas urgent de toutes façons
17:26 <epsy> ça a fini en PM ? x)
17:28 <MrBougo> nana
17:28 <MrBougo> sur le serveur
17:28 <epsy> lol
17:28 <MrBougo> on a oublié de caser la bretagne
17:28 <epsy> c vrai
17:36 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.im « Actual use Personal domain names for Instant Messaging users, Instant Messaging web sites, trademarks and local Isle of Man businesses »
17:36 <luke-jr|work> epsy: ?
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17:46 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_hack
17:47 <epsy> hay Hoax-
17:49 <Hoax-> 'lo espso
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18:14 <epsy> Excellent.
18:14 <epsy> #crazylate luke-jr_work is at work.
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18:14 <armabot> epsy: The work of jr of Lucas-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work- _ is in the work.
18:21 <MrBougo> bye
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19:05  * epsy wants to play arma
19:10 <epsy> i am bored...
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19:11 <epsy> hello z-man
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19:36 <MrBougo> hiho
19:36 <epsy> wb
19:38 <MrBougo> snap
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19:39 <MrBougo> i forgot to create a snapshot of my VM post-installation of many thingzs
19:41 <epsy> lol
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19:54 <epsy> hello Arma183
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22:53 <luke-jr_work> is our overlay having issues?
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23:01 <spidey> dude
23:01 <spidey> my brother is totally scared of females
23:01 <spidey> this girl at the testing center
23:01 <spidey> was hitting on him
23:02 <spidey> he sorta talked back with her
23:02 <spidey> then let it go
23:02 <spidey> so, i took the liberty to get them hooked up :D
23:02 <spidey> he was so embarresed
23:12 <guru3> http://supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.eventhoughthesoundofitis.somethingquiteattrocious.electricpotential.net/
23:17 <spidey> lol
23:18 <spidey> anyone know of a free dns-service that offers xmpp? O.o
23:18 <spidey> er
23:18 <spidey> SRV
23:18 <guru3> no-ip actually does it now
23:18 <spidey> hmm
23:19 <spidey> kk
23:19 <spidey> but what about one that hosts a domain you currently own?
23:23 <guru3> don't know
23:37 <spidey> what's this config option for tron
23:37 <spidey> enable special code for the krawall gaming network
23:37 <spidey>                           SERVER (user database query...). dont't touch this!
23:37 <spidey>                           (default=disabled)
23:37 <spidey> i don't exactly understand it
23:37 <spidey> xD
23:37 <noob7> what's krawall?
23:37 <spidey> no clue
23:37 <spidey> :p
23:37 <epsy> a gaming network ?
23:37 <epsy> like errr...
23:37 <spidey>   --enable-krawall        enable special code for the krawall gaming network
23:37 <spidey>                           (user authentification...) (default=disabled)
23:37 <noob7> http://www.krawall.de/web/home/
23:38 <noob7> hm
23:38 <spidey> guru3, Lucifer_arma luke-jr_work ?
23:38 <noob7> armagetron isnt even listed on their site?
23:39 <guru3> it was never completed
23:39 <spidey> wow i suck
23:39 <epsy> like errr ... like kali
23:39 <spidey> i forgot how i compiled all our tron servers
23:39 <noob7> but kali does work doesntit?
23:39 <epsy> with arma ? maybe xD
23:39 <spidey> i did it a certain way where ALL the files went in one dir
23:39 <noob7> no lol
23:40 <spidey> instead of ./armagetronad
23:40 <noob7> hello Epsy btw :D
23:40 <epsy> narf!!!
23:40 <noob7> :p
23:40 <epsy> remove that cap!
23:40 <spidey> don't
23:40 <spidey> it's a trap
23:40  * epsy rapes noob7 
23:40 <noob7> hmmm harder
23:40  * epsy rapes noob7 harder
23:40 <noob7> http://wwwd.name/armagetron/forum/index.php?topic=166.msg1429#new
23:41 <noob7> I remember registering for Kali to play Duke before I found out about DukesterX
23:41 <noob7> maybe I am just making things up tho :/
23:42 <epsy> bah
23:43 <epsy> the only reason i would subscribe to kali is d2x-xl
23:43 <noob7> I dont remember paying, maybe that's where I stopped looking into it hm
23:43 <spidey> --disable-glout  <---enables the server, right?
23:43 <epsy> crappy name for it, yes
23:44 <epsy> i think --disable-glout should be changed to --enable-dedicated -.-
23:47 <noob7> is there a pruned version of http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Console_Commands available somewhere? (looking for admin commands / cfg settings only here)
23:53 <spidey> ?
23:53 <epsy> armagetronad --doc ?
23:55 <noob7> erm I'll refrain from asking anything for at least the next 5min :/ thx guys
23:56 <epsy> was that what you would have ?
23:56 <noob7> yes Epsy
23:56 <epsy> /ignore noob7 ALL
23:57 <noob7> actually no :(
23:57 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-67-67-219-75.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
23:57 <noob7> I was gonna ask why you care so much about the capitalized E - but then I realized that would have been a questions and the 5min arent over yet
23:58 <epsy> it doesn't look good
23:59 <noob7> true that

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