Log from 2007-07-23:
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00:08 <_Sticky_> thanks epsy now I have to blind myself every time you leave or go to jail
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00:29 <noob7> meh why is there no CHEAP mobile data service in germany? cheapest is 24euro cents per MB without contract
00:31 <_Sticky_> about what i pay in the UK too
00:41 <noob7> but then again, UK is part of europe and europe is fucking behind on these things
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01:02 <Lucifer_arma> _Sticky_: why? it's just "line noise" :)
01:02 <_Sticky_> its the magic number
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> any resemblance that garbage has to anything else is purely coincidental
01:03 <_Sticky_> true
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> epsy is on a known bad internet connection ;)
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> to make matters worse, he's french, and therefore half of what he says is gibberish anyway
01:04 <noob7> you mean: since he is french half of what you say is gibberish to him anyway
01:05 <_Sticky_> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/947f/zoom/ catch this one?
01:05 <noob7> I need hypno therapy to deal with my bad jokes, sorry
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I didn't see that one :)
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> noob7: I'd like to think that half of what I say is always gibberish asdfkj oweoici aosoid aoweioo coiaoas oaisd aosidfoaiwj
01:07 <noob7> and people like him (http://images.thinkgeek.com/action/large/211ad3d.jpg) wearing it :-/
01:07 <noob7> lucifer that's a different aproach tho
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I could really do without a picture of another geek
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why does french negate a verb using two words?
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> (that's the basis of my "half gibberish" statement)
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> Je ne parle pas francais
01:08 <noob7> wie was? was ist "negate" ?
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> both Je and either ne or pas isn't needed there
01:08 <_Sticky_> Lucifer_arma: what were you planning doing with this motor thing??
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> motor thing?
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> oh, the 1.6A motor in my weed eater?
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> I was planning on whacking my weeds with it
01:09 <_Sticky_> ahh right
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> ...as soon as I build a power supply to replace the dead-ass battery
01:09 <noob7> make it solar powered, or better yet WIND powered
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I'm supposed to be on the way to the store right now to buy paper (so I can print out an article with a schematic for an amp) and more solder
01:09 <_Sticky_> just wondering about the whole stepping down from 110vac thing
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> I've about got it worked out. My test failed because I dumbly used electrolytic caps on the high voltage AC side of the transformer
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> my brother-in-law tells me not to worry about that, just hook it straight (with a resistor in parallel, which is there already) to the transformer and take measurements on the other end
01:10 <_Sticky_> hmm i forget, i thought generaly you use electrylitics with ac
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> which means that if I didn't blow up one of these capacitors, I can use it on the other side as a filter (which I need)
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, electrolytics can only pass current one way, and ac needs it to go both ways
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> the reason my test circuit worked with those caps was because I was only pushing 12VAC through it to test
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'm back in unknown territory and should really install a simulator and build the circuit there :)
01:12 <_Sticky_> hmm i clearly never learnt capacitors properly
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm not going to, I'm going to plunge ahead
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> could be worse, I'm just learning this stuff right now, it's all new to me
01:13 <_Sticky_> learning on 110vac isnt good
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm going to print out this amp project and make a parts list from the schematic (including the recommended power supply) and then rip open the two extra guitar amps I've got and see if I can
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> get enough parts to build it
01:13 <_Sticky_> ive been doing it off and on for about 10 years and I wouldnt touch mains
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't have anything else until I get bck to work, where I have a nice power supply to work with :)
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like to whack my weeds this weekend, or at least be able to during the week
01:14 <_Sticky_> you have a bench supply at work? so you do work in electronics?
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'm hoping I can knock out most of the expenses for the power amp project by gutting two guitar amps that I don't use any more, and then can float the rest with cash
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's a physics lab...
01:15 <_Sticky_> ah ok
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> I might wire it up and then take it to work and test it there where there's also quality multimeters
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> and I can use the bench supply to avoid setting the world on fire if I fucked up
01:15 <_Sticky_> hmm dont you also need a bridge rectifier to convert it to dc?
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> got one
01:16 <_Sticky_> ok
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> I ripped open an old PC power supply for parts :)
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01:16 <Lucifer_arma> (yes, I know, I could have just tapped into the output for that supply to pwoer my weed eater, but then I wouldnt have learned anything!)
01:16 <_Sticky_> hmm can a pc supply do 1.6A?
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> afaik
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not sure now that I think of it. I used one to power a cd player one time
01:17 <_Sticky_> i suppose 24v*1.6A is only 38w
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> but it didn't get very loud, since it was designed for a small space (car) and I used it in my living room
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm not sure I'm going to hit 24v anymore, since I have to redesign the input side, but we'll see
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> I only need to hit 12V
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> the power's there
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> basically, if I get 12V on the dc side, I'll have plenty of power.
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> I could probably swing it with 8V, but we'll have to see
01:19 <_Sticky_> it will get slower obviously
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> I am pretty short on resistors whose values are known
01:19 <_Sticky_> heheh cant you use the multimeter?
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> and my own multitester will only test in 1k ohm increments
01:19 <_Sticky_> ahh
01:20 <_Sticky_> no colour codes on the resistors?
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> because it's a cheap bastard I got for car work, which doesn't require a lot of stuff
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> I have some of the type that are color coded, but most of my resistors are a different type
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> the combination should be there that I need, but I don't have a way to test right now
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> basically I need to plug in and check the voltage and amperage and then I can use ohm's law to induce the rest
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's just a lot more time consuming than just hooking up to each resistor with a digital multimeter :)
01:21 <_Sticky_> dear lord do your physics lab care if you take some resistors, my engineering department dont even account for who is given them, since suppliers practicly give them away
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> yees, because all we have are decade resistor boxes
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's no biggee, if I don't get something working tonight, I"ll just take what I've got to work tomorrow where I have the right tools to figure it all out
01:22 <_Sticky_> yeah
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02:45 <Lucifer_arma> who wants to tell my mother-in-law that lead-based solder has been illegal for a long time in this country?
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe it's not
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> wikipedia only talks about a fairly recent EU directive
02:48 <_Sticky_> hmm does that mean i shouldnt be licking the solder?
02:50 <_Sticky_> #night
02:50 <armabot> Good night _Sticky_!
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04:42 <Lucifer_arma> great, now we have another unperson at the school
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter's school's principal quit, and they're promoting the vice principal
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> who is apparetly a religious nut. Got his BA in Religious Education
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> at a catholic school, no less
06:47 <luke-jr_work> "catholic"
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08:13 <spidey> hax
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> jax
08:14 <spidey> heh
08:14 <spidey> anyone here like anime?
08:14 <DrJoeTron> ANIMU
08:14 <spidey> http://www.mininova.org/tor/756228 <--that's the best, and only anime show i ever watched :D
08:14 * spidey downloads
08:15 <DrJoeTron> oh god
08:15 <DrJoeTron> spidey i hate you
08:15 <spidey> <3
08:15 <spidey> mmm
08:15 <spidey> wtf's a .rmvb
08:15 <MrBougo> whew, i'm listening to such a crazy thing
08:15 <DrJoeTron> i can't believe you're actually downloading that
08:15 <spidey> 53mb for 45+minutes, must be shitty quality
08:15 <MrBougo> Marco V vs. Super8 & Tab vs. Marc Marberg vs. Meck vs. Igal Magitman - Possible Wusik Feelings Like Megashira But Unlikely (lindmik Mashup)
08:15 <MrBougo> 5-mashup aaah!
08:15 <MrBougo> hello
08:16 <spidey> DrJoeTron, that was my favorite show when i was 10~ish :p
08:16 <spidey> just like "rockin-robin" was my favorite song
08:16 <spidey> and i downloaded it to :D
08:16 <spidey> i was a weird kid...
08:16 <DrJoeTron> you're still a weird kid
08:16 <spidey> liar :(
08:17 <MrBougo> wtf, never heard about "rockin-robin" but it sounds awesome
08:17 <spidey> lol
08:17 <spidey> it's like
08:17 <spidey> 60's rok
08:17 <spidey> rock
08:17 <MrBougo> ehe
08:17 <DrJoeTron> I can't really get into anime anymore
08:17 <MrBougo> huh
08:17 <spidey> download the one by chuck berry :D
08:18 <DrJoeTron> fuck that, jackson 5 version
08:18 <MrBougo> some bad experience, joe?
08:18 <DrJoeTron> nah, i turned 14
08:18 <MrBougo> rap remix!
08:18 <MrBougo> sorry, forgot the c :(
08:18 <DrJoeTron> i mean I still occasionaly watch shows.
08:18 <DrJoeTron> I will always love Case Closed
08:18 <DrJoeTron> that show is so fucking awesome
08:18 <spidey> you used to watch adult swim...
08:19 <DrJoeTron> i still do
08:19 <spidey> that's anime!
08:19 <DrJoeTron> <DrJoeTron> i mean I still occasionaly watch shows.
08:19 <spidey> :p
08:19 <spidey> i have x-files seasons 1-9
08:19 <spidey> :D
08:20 <MrBougo> i have nothing!
08:20 <DrJoeTron> the only amine I will watch is ShinChan
08:20 <MrBougo> what the hell
08:20 <spidey> gundam wing
08:20 <spidey> was nice
08:20 <DrJoeTron> the english dubbing is so bad its amazing
08:20 <spidey> till they stopped showing it :(
08:20 <MrBougo> that's crap, isn't it?
08:20 <DrJoeTron> they lost the license for it
08:20 <spidey> gay
08:20 <DrJoeTron> i downloaded it a year ago
08:20 <MrBougo> someone called me?
08:20 <spidey> yes bougo~
08:20 <DrJoeTron> and went "wow i used to like this"
08:21 <MrBougo> :p
08:21 <spidey> lol
08:21 <spidey> wow
08:21 <spidey> i managed to fit all 9 seasons of xfiles into 20~gb
08:22 <spidey> there's 24 episodes in each O.o
08:22 <MrBougo> huuuh
08:22 <DrJoeTron> my friend just downloaded every single MST3k Episode
08:22 <spidey> mst3k?
08:22 <DrJoeTron> Mystery Science Theatre 3000
08:22 <MrBougo> spidey, i guess it's poor quality
08:22 <spidey> no
08:22 <spidey> it's decent
08:22 <spidey> VHS quality
08:22 <DrJoeTron> it was 120 GB
08:22 <DrJoeTron> its like 10 years of episodes
08:22 <spidey> lol
08:23 <DrJoeTron> and each one is about an hour, hour and a half
08:23 <DrJoeTron> best show ever
08:23 <DrJoeTron> a guy and a bunch of robots watching and riffing on B Movies
08:24 <spidey> wait
08:24 <MrBougo> huh
08:24 <MrBougo> all the time?
08:24 <spidey> did that used to come on tnt
08:24 <spidey> or something
08:24 <spidey> TBS
08:24 <DrJoeTron> comedy central
08:24 <DrJoeTron> probably
08:24 <spidey> i've seen that
08:24 <DrJoeTron> its really good
08:24 <spidey> ...
08:24 <spidey> all they do is
08:24 <spidey> play movies
08:24 <DrJoeTron> make fun of movies
08:24 <spidey> yea
08:24 <DrJoeTron> yup
08:25 <DrJoeTron> its an amazing show
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: does the master server support bans, by any chance?
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> check any wiki page, code hunter can go fuck himself. ;)
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08:45 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know durka's site?
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08:48 <loserbar> hey
08:49 <GodTodd> bargh...wtf is my konversation reporting the wrong timestamp? :/
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> check locale?
08:50 <GodTodd> i'm going to....nothing's changed afaik tho
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> my kids usually manage to change that when they're fooling around (one of the reasons they have their own user now)
08:50 <GodTodd> my clock is showing the correct time
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> no idea
08:52 <GodTodd> seems it's something to do with gmt or something because it's showing 5 hours ahead of central
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I just went through the settings for konversation and there doesn't appear to be any way to change it in konversation
08:52 <GodTodd> i saw
08:52 <GodTodd> :/
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's gmt alright
08:52 <GodTodd> yeah...we're gmt-5 right now, right?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> why the hell are all websites timing out for me?
08:53 <GodTodd> maybe the apocolypse is hitting :)
08:53 <loserbar> what are you using to connect to irc?
08:53 <GodTodd> apocalypse? something heh
08:53 <GodTodd> me? konversation
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> I don't really feel like hunting down all the clans to tell them not to use that hacked executable
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> even google news is taking forever
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to blame firefox and restart it
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> after I check konqueror
08:55 <loserbar> are you on an ethernet connection?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> dsl
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> irc's not suffering, though
08:56 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,
08:56 <spidey> what executable?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> check the wiki :)
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08:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'll get you a link asap, but it's taking forever for web pagesto load right now
08:56 <spidey> i'm looking for dragonball/z/gt downloads :p
08:57 <spidey> there's over 200+ episodes :/
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=189701#189701
08:57 <spidey> "http://wiki.aramgetronad.net/"
08:57 <spidey> er
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> damn dude
08:57 <spidey>
08:57 <spidey> Cannot find "http://wiki.aramgetronad.net/"
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08:57 <spidey> nvm
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> of course not, you totally fucked it up
08:57 <spidey> i'm stupid
08:58 <loserbar> haha
08:58 <loserbar> copy and paste man
08:59 <spidey> i'ma download it
08:59 <spidey> in vmware
08:59 <spidey> packet sniff while i'm running it :D
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> make sure you get the one I uploaded :)
08:59 <loserbar> so how significant is the patched version, i mean what does it enable?
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> random color codes
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> random cycle colors, sorry
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> new color every round
09:00 <loserbar> thats it?
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:00 <loserbar> and they made it closed source because of that??
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's hacks floating around, all they've done is build an executable
09:00 <loserbar> silly
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible it's a misunderstanding, but code hunter's always been a little on the iffy side of things
09:00 <loserbar> oh sure
09:01 <loserbar> i can understand that
09:01 <loserbar> but im sure people patch their own versions like that
09:01 <GodTodd> well...this is fucking retarded
09:01 <GodTodd> :/
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> sure, they can do it, no problem. Just when they distribute their patch, it's gotta be GPL... ;)
09:01 <loserbar> sure
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> and they can't lie and try to claim ownership of the program, which is what irks me here
09:01 <spidey> lawl
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's blatantly dishonest
09:02 <loserbar> and besides this third party binary could be unstable in other ways too
09:02 <spidey> is there only a windows client?
09:02 <spidey> because the vm is ubuntu
09:02 <loserbar> yeah i hear ya, its not like they wrote the whole damn thing
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they're windows people
09:02 <loserbar> like you said
09:02 <spidey> ;/
09:02 * spidey installs win2k
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> I was considering running it under wine, but decided not to bother
09:02 <loserbar> why not just have it patched in the dev version
09:03 <loserbar> or at least proposed
09:03 <spidey> ??
09:03 <loserbar> ive noticed a few proposals that were on the wiki
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> it is proposed, and the only reason we don't have something like this is because it can't be generalized in a way that's interesting for someone to do :)
09:03 <spidey> um
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> but scripting should allow it, and the dev version has it, so the best thing to do is to actually get the dev version and write a script for it
09:03 <spidey> didn't you write a app for this luci?
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> it may even already exist as an example script
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: hmmm, not exactly
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> the one I wrote just gives you a random color at the start of the app, using autoexec.cfg
09:04 <loserbar> anyone here know why the svn site is down?
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> it is?
09:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you still got that? lol
09:04 <loserbar> unless they changed it again
09:05 <loserbar> i havent been able to do an update for over a week
09:05 <GodTodd> ok....this is messed up for my mind at 2am....why would my systray clock show 2am but when i go to adjust the time/date it shows 7am?
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: kicking aroudn somewhere :)
09:05 <MrBougo> bye
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09:05 <loserbar> default timezone?
09:05 <loserbar> im assuming youre using kde
09:05 <GodTodd> it's set correctly
09:05 <GodTodd> yeah i am
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: right click and say "show local time"
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> loserbar: just updated for me
09:05 <loserbar> is it set to sync with a mirror?
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
09:05 <GodTodd> yeah
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> you're probably using the old svn url, that's been deprecated for some time
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> sometime last week sourceforge removed support for the old urls
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: more than likely it's a locale problem in the system settings
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> or a bad CMOS battery
09:07 <loserbar> really...
09:07 <loserbar> interesting
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> but a bad CMOS battery should either cause you not to boot (because of bios problems) or should be corrected when the clock is synced
09:07 <loserbar> was it updated in the wiki though or in another spot
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> iirc, the wiki came into existence after the change
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> but I'll go check
09:07 <loserbar> well is your computer set to use the time on the board or to get the time elsewhere
09:07 <GodTodd> that's what i figured...with the cmos battery thing...that just makes you lose time and a sync fixes it
09:08 <GodTodd> and it loses it on the systray clock as well
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> ah, the wiki still shows the old one
09:08 <loserbar> yes
09:08 <loserbar> lol
09:08 <GodTodd> if i adjust it with kde's adjuster, it changes the time on in the systray
09:08 <GodTodd> :_
09:08 <GodTodd> :)
09:08 <loserbar> right but not in your programs i guess?
09:09 <GodTodd> dunno
09:09 <GodTodd> heh
09:09 <loserbar> though that doesnt make sense cause youre using konversation
09:09 <GodTodd> haven't run into it before
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> make sure your timezone is set correctly, and that you've got the right flag for whether or not the hardware clock is GMT or local time
09:09 <GodTodd> done that
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> and you've got your systray clock showing "Local time"? NOt "CDT" or "Chicago" or anything like that?
09:10 <GodTodd> yep
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> did you try restarting konversation? ;)
09:10 <spidey> lies
09:10 <spidey> all lies
09:10 <GodTodd> yep
09:10 <loserbar> actually try restarting konversation
09:10 <spidey> TWEAT,TWEAT TWEAT
09:10 <spidey> :p
09:10 <loserbar> its integrated into kde isnt it
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> that sure took long enough
09:10 <loserbar> so shouldnt it sync up with the timedata that kde is gathering from
09:11 <GodTodd> already restarted konversation
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> it should use glibc's locale setting
09:12 <GodTodd> i'ma try a reboot (i'm an old windows user so it's second nature :) )
09:12 <spidey> lol
09:12 <spidey> thawell
09:13 <spidey> well*
09:13 <spidey> i'm a windows user
09:13 <spidey> if something breaks, i don't reboot
09:13 <spidey> i just say fuck it :p
09:13 <z-man> Lucifer_arma: no, not really, but we could make it so (master server bans, god I hate it when discussions go that fast)
09:13 <loserbar> haha i use debian and i never reboot :-p
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:14 <loserbar> thanks for the checkout by the way
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> np
09:14 <spidey> erm
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> I reboot three times a day
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> but that's because I physically move the computer each time
09:14 <spidey> a master server is "like" a tron server, right?
09:14 <loserbar> really? why
09:14 <spidey> well
09:14 <spidey> nvm
09:14 <loserbar> lol
09:14 <loserbar> well
09:14 <loserbar> alright
09:15 <spidey> why you the people running the master servers just drop his subnet with iptables?
09:15 <spidey> :p
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: it's no big deal, I was just musing. iptables will suffice afaic
09:15 <spidey> why can't*
09:15 <z-man> spidey: we can.
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09:15 <spidey> :p
09:16 <z-man> But that won't stop his servers from entering the list, if that is the intention of the ban.
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09:16 <z-man> They'll sneak in over one of the other master servers.
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> which requires we all agree to do something
09:17 <spidey> does a master server use alot of bandwidth?
09:17 <GodTodd> grrrr
09:17 <GodTodd> hrmm
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, while I'm willing to make noise, I'm not (yet) willing to try to censure his clan, mostly because our tools to do so are fairly weak
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: those windows reflexesdon't work!
09:17 <loserbar> wouldnt that depend on how much bandwidth you give it ;)
09:17 <spidey> ...
09:17 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i figured...but it was worth a shot heh
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I have to reboot my kubuntu box every now and then to reset the x server, and it's annoying as piss
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> not sure if it's a sound card locking problem or not, but basically some other user logged in manages to make it so the sound card is inaccessible, even after they log out
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> also, when you have multiple sessions going at once, the last one to logout leaves you with a blank screen instead of a login prompt
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if that's kdm that's at fault, actually
09:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, is the AFL server being used? i need to erstart it sometime when noone's in it
09:19 <loserbar> ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work for you lucifer?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: yeah, but it's only being actively used during matches, which are over for today
09:19 <spidey> it's using 16% of the ram
09:19 <spidey> heh
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, they can wait if they need to :)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> loserbar: no, that only exacerbates the problem
09:20 <loserbar> ah
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> because then you have an x instance shut down uncleanly
09:20 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i mean is it being used right now :p
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> oh, fuck if I know. Matado Core's using it for their home server
09:20 <loserbar> what about switching to terminal
09:20 <loserbar> and sending it to term
09:20 <loserbar> or to stop service
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> loserbar: there are issues with that already, where the resolution is wrong and some other things
09:21 <loserbar> i guess yeah , still unclean
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> I should probably dig into that
09:21 <loserbar> do you use framebuffer console?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's setup that way. It's default kubuntu...
09:22 <loserbar> is it a lower resolution than the desktop?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> yes
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> and the result is really huge fonts, and most of it doesn't show on screen
09:22 <loserbar> cause ive noticed with the default *buntu kernels theres no framebuffer
09:23 <loserbar> i guess to be better at hardware detection, using a nononsense-like generic kernel
09:23 <loserbar> really.
09:23 <loserbar> it shouldnt be that that bad
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> it's horrible! :(
09:23 <loserbar> like 640x480?
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> no idea what the resolution actually is, and I think there's a config file for it somewhere
09:23 <loserbar> but completely unreadable
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll ssh in there and see
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> oh, I have to start a new session, and the speakers are cranked, so I better not
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09:26 <loserbar> so from what you said, you have to logout kde cause of a sound card problem and then your login manager breaks?
09:27 <LuciEatsPeople> no, well, er, I'm not terribly coherent right now, sorry
09:27 <loserbar> its alright
09:27 -!- LuciEatsPeople is now known as Lucifer_arma
09:29 <GodTodd> hrmm
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09:31 <loserbar> does anyone here know the specific ruby library armagetronad needs for building
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> -lruby
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> which is libruby.so
09:32 <loserbar> does anyone here know the specific ruby library armagetronad needs for building
09:32 <loserbar> oops
09:33 <loserbar> lol
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> -lruby
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> which is libruby.so
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> :)
09:34 <loserbar> i meant to say that i know i have that library but im being told by the svn config that i dont
09:34 <loserbar> i hate to be a whiner caught in dep hell
09:34 <loserbar> its just weird is all
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> ruby-dev package?
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> also check configure options, there is one to give a path to ruby
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute
09:35 <loserbar> ah good point
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> check config.log and find the failed check
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> in my experience, it's usually an earlier check that failedthat doesn't show up until the ruby check for some reason
09:37 <noob7> #onlineservers
09:37 <armabot> noob7: This data is 50 seconds old; Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (6/16), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (5/16), GEMINI PROJECT (4/8), Jared's Server (3/16), Wild West =Wild Fortress= (3/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), Norm's Place (3/12), SPACEZONE III (2/15), G-Land (1/8)
09:38 <loserbar> ah i think i know what it is
09:39 <loserbar> im using ruby-1.8 and libruby is in /usr/lib/libruby1.8.so
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> I think I Need to restart my router
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> that or I'm getting attacked
09:41 <loserbar> are you connected wireless?
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> is there horrible solar activity right now?
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> that for some reason only affects http?
09:43 <loserbar> no it could just be your reception among other things
09:43 <loserbar> how long has the wireless connection lasted?
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> that would affect everything, this is only affecting http
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'm waiting even for the webpage for the router's admin interface
09:44 <loserbar> what internet services are you running
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> jabber, irc, web
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> when I say web, I'm talking web browser, the web serveron this machine is turnedoff right now
09:45 <loserbar> ah
09:46 <loserbar> yeah what usually works for me is either recycling the wireless adapter or the router itself
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> I'm blaming the router, or I've got a ocmputer going nuts
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> The server at 192.168.1.1 is taking too long to respond.
09:47 <loserbar> lol
09:47 <loserbar> yep
09:47 <loserbar> thats the router
09:47 <loserbar> youre talking to its firmware :-p
09:47 <loserbar> is it a linksys?
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:48 <loserbar> yeah man just unplug it and wait like 10 seconds and plug it back in
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, brb
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09:50 <loserbar> hows it now
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09:52 <Lucifer_arma_> ahhh, much better
09:52 <Lucifer_arma_> I knew the web was snappier than that! :)
09:53 <loserbar> heh yeah that happens time to time
09:53 <loserbar> i used to have a befw11s4
09:53 <loserbar> would make me do that like 5 times a day
09:54 <Lucifer_arma_> once a month or so for me
09:54 <Lucifer_arma_> it just usually takes me by surprise :)
09:54 <loserbar> you could try updating the firmware on it, but its kinda risky if you dont know what youre doing
09:54 <GodTodd> woot
09:54 <GodTodd> fixed :)
09:54 <loserbar> hey
09:54 <Lucifer_arma_> see? I fixed my slow-ass web access and it fixed todd's machine too
09:55 <GodTodd> heh
09:55 <GodTodd> i had to to tzconfig
09:55 <Lucifer_arma_> who'da thunk?
09:55 <GodTodd> it was set to unknown
09:55 <Lucifer_arma_> ahhhh
09:55 <loserbar> hahaha
09:55 <loserbar> of all the things
09:55 <GodTodd> yeah
09:55 <loserbar> lame
09:55 <loserbar> oh well
09:56 <GodTodd> never seen that before...but then, that's how we learn stuff, right? :)
09:56 <GodTodd> heh
09:56 <loserbar> eys
09:56 <loserbar> yes
09:56 <Lucifer_arma_> sye
09:56 <loserbar> heh
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09:57 <Lucifer_arma> /msg NickServ GHOST DrJoeTron eatscrapola
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> so apparently someone figured out how to crack an md5 hash in like 5 minutes
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> that makes md5 no longer useful for cryptography, but continues to be useful in craptography
09:59 <guru3> i wonder what that guy that wants me on the forums is after
09:59 <guru3> could be interesting
09:59 <loserbar> haha seriously lucifer?
10:00 <loserbar> haha i love how my little system gets loud when it has to compile
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> mine too, fires up a fan
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's how I know my buildbot's doing something, usually :)
10:00 <loserbar> yeah i know but its kinda funny how it has to try so hard
10:01 <loserbar> yeah it beats looking at the led
10:01 <loserbar> unless you have a nice case
10:01 <loserbar> did i mention im using a dell haha
10:01 <DrJoeTron> DELLLLL AGHHH
10:01 <loserbar> (free)
10:01 <DrJoeTron> dell's run a mean armagetron server
10:01 <mkzelda> dude you're gettin a cell
10:01 <GodTodd> dude, you're getting a dell
10:01 <DrJoeTron> mine was also free
10:01 <DrJoeTron> hi4
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> I always thought arma on a dell was more like armacraptron
10:01 <loserbar> yeah i think thats the only reason why anyone has a dell
10:02 <loserbar> look at schools :)
10:02 <guru3> you shoulda seen the server i ran on this dual PII dell...
10:02 <guru3> took players and lag was at about 400ms
10:02 <guru3> *two
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's those cheap-ass motherboards they use
10:02 <loserbar> yeah
10:02 <loserbar> its the cheap ass everything
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> take the cpu and other useful stuff out and stick it on something useful
10:02 <mkzelda> and cheap ass turtle beach sound cards used to cause a LOT of trouble
10:02 <mkzelda> especially NT days
10:02 <guru3> always fun to rip the insides out of a dell case and put in some good ones
10:02 <loserbar> this stock fan probably came from a hut in bangladesh
10:03 <guru3> i had a dual core amd in a dimension case for a while
10:03 <guru3> cracked me up everytime i looked at it
10:03 <mkzelda> ive had some creative cases
10:03 <mkzelda> a series of coathangers
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a dell mobo these days, actually, and it's pretty nice
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> but that's comparing it to the 900mhz duron sitting next to it
10:03 <guru3> they weren't nice back when they used the standard atx connector with a non-standard pinout
10:03 <loserbar> yeah id totally do that if i had money for parts :-D
10:03 <GodTodd> i still run a 750 duron upstairs
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, they were downright mean back then
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I can send you an 800mhz duron :)
10:04 <mkzelda> i still have a 500mhz duron im trying to sell
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it's an upgrade,isn't it?
10:04 <GodTodd> haha
10:04 <guru3> they were mean like a grandma with roadrage going down i40 in a buick
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> you can't sell anything under a gig and half these days
10:04 <loserbar> haha
10:04 <GodTodd> it's a 7 year old computer that serves as my internet server and fileserver
10:04 <loserbar> yeah even my dell has a p4 at 2.8 not overclocked
10:04 <GodTodd> runs toddbot too
10:04 <GodTodd> :)
10:05 <loserbar> though i dont even think you can overclock on a dell bios
10:05 <mkzelda> i40 reference from a .eu
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> he's an american!
10:05 <mkzelda> oh
10:05 <guru3> so there.
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> he just lives over there
10:05 <mkzelda> ohhhh
10:05 <guru3> i could have said i95
10:05 <mkzelda> ok that makes more sense
10:05 <guru3> but that's not really nation wide
10:05 <guru3> and wouldn't make as much sense to our friends in the west
10:05 <guru3> like lucifer
10:06 <mkzelda> 95 and 40 are both close to here
10:06 <guru3> sure they are, they overlap in NC ir VA
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> i40 cuts across the northern partof the state
10:06 <mkzelda> NC :D
10:06 <guru3> you've got i85 then too
10:06 <guru3> right?
10:06 <mkzelda> yea
10:06 <guru3> and 15-501
10:06 <mkzelda> and 77
10:06 <guru3> but that's a state route
10:06 <guru3> and then the 15-501 bypass
10:06 <guru3> and 55 iirc
10:07 <mkzelda> and 54/64/264
10:07 <guru3> the triangle
10:07 <guru3> and then the other triangle
10:07 <mkzelda> morganton hickory and lenoir?
10:07 <guru3> not sure anymore
10:07 <guru3> but it did break my heart when they ripped southsquare down
10:08 <guru3> (if you know where that was)
10:08 <mkzelda> nope
10:08 <guru3> i think they turned it into a giant sams club
10:08 <guru3> you know crabtree valley?
10:08 <mkzelda> lol
10:08 <mkzelda> yeah
10:08 <guru3> you know that recent mall they built a few years ago
10:08 <guru3> with the apple store and massive cinema
10:08 <guru3> all out doorsey and shit
10:08 <guru3> like no watch shop
10:09 <mkzelda> triangle town center, crabtree valley mall, soutpointe
10:09 <guru3> southpoint
10:09 <guru3> is the one i'm thinking off
10:09 <guru3> i hate that place
10:09 <mkzelda> i've yet to go
10:09 <mkzelda> heh
10:09 <guru3> IT DOESN'T HAVE A WATCH SHOP
10:09 <mkzelda> its not my type of thing
10:09 <guru3> that leaves the last one i know (knew) of in northgate
10:09 <mkzelda> well you should open a watch shop there
10:09 <mkzelda> no competition
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> watch him
10:10 <guru3> but at least northgate wasn't as far out of the way as soutpoint
10:10 <mkzelda> north hills?
10:10 <guru3> northgate mall... sort of near the museum of life and science in durham
10:10 <mkzelda> oh i dont know too much durham, i try to stay away from there
10:11 <guru3> know chapel hell?
10:11 <guru3> *hill?
10:11 <mkzelda> yeah
10:11 <guru3> know carrboro?
10:11 <mkzelda> yeah
10:11 <mkzelda> u know knightdale?
10:11 <guru3> i used to live in carrboro
10:11 <guru3> the name is familiar
10:11 <guru3> but i wouldn't say i 'know' it
10:11 <mkzelda> east of raleigh, 64 goes through it
10:11 <mkzelda> the new 540 cuts through it
10:12 <mkzelda> its the edge of raleigh out new bern
10:12 <mkzelda> thats where im at, it was a nothing town shitty part of 64
10:12 <guru3> don't think we ever really headed out that way
10:12 <mkzelda> real slow
10:12 <guru3> at least i didn't
10:12 <mkzelda> then they put in 540 through it and 264 bypass
10:12 <mkzelda> i bought my house just b4 it all happened
10:12 <guru3> is 540 the one that they spent about like 7 years building
10:12 <guru3> was in a dead end for ages
10:13 <mkzelda> yea its still in a dead end but more is done
10:13 <mkzelda> it dead ends at 264 one exit after me, adn the back way into my neighborhood
10:13 <mkzelda> a giant strip mall went in
10:13 <mkzelda> right outside my neighborhood
10:13 <guru3> :/
10:13 <guru3> like there aren't enough of those
10:14 <mkzelda> my property value has gone up signficantly tho
10:14 <guru3> that's true
10:14 <guru3> but i imagine it's gotten a bit noisier
10:14 <mkzelda> i actually dont hear 540, but i hear the contstruction of some of the new restaraunts being built
10:15 <mkzelda> in the distance
10:15 <mkzelda> when outside
10:15 <guru3> go figure
10:15 <guru3> know new hope commons?
10:15 <mkzelda> I know new hope
10:15 <guru3> wish i could remember all these names properly
10:15 <guru3> but i left when i was like 14 or 15
10:16 <guru3> and at that point i didn't really care too much about where things outside my immediate vicinity were
10:16 <mkzelda> yeah
10:16 <guru3> and it's been like 4 years since then
10:16 <guru3> so not only am i not really sure, i've half forgotten it all
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10:18 <MrBougo> hihooo
10:18 <mkzelda> hey
10:18 <MrBougo> :p
10:18 <mkzelda> MrBougo: how much u play nex?
10:18 <MrBougo> well...
10:18 <MrBougo> i havent played nex for 3 weeks
10:18 <guru3> nex... nexuiz?
10:19 <mkzelda> yeah
10:19 <MrBougo> yup
10:19 <guru3> that's so random... i was just writing a forum post about that on another forum
10:19 <MrBougo> and before that i played like 3 weeks
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10:19 <mkzelda> we just ran into each other on a server
10:19 <MrBougo> hehe
10:19 <eddiefantastic> nexuiz? that like a UT clone?
10:19 <MrBougo> he owned me
10:19 <mkzelda> more like a quake clone
10:19 <guru3> it's a open source fps
10:19 <MrBougo> yep
10:19 <guru3> with some pretty impressive graphics
10:20 <MrBougo> based on darkplaces
10:20 <MrBougo> haha
10:20 <mkzelda> its based on q1, q2, and q3 and looks better
10:20 <MrBougo> guru3 likes irony
10:20 <eddiefantastic> I'll try it out, just upgraded my hardware
10:20 <guru3> didn't it predate the q3 source release?
10:20 <mkzelda> i just really like the weapons and balancing
10:20 <mkzelda> no dont think so
10:20 <guru3> i think health works really well
10:20 <MrBougo> guru3: darkplaces is based on the q3 source release :)
10:20 <mkzelda> it uses q3 style maps tho
10:20 <eddiefantastic> currently working my way through hl2
10:20 <MrBougo> and nexuiz uses darkplaces
10:20 <eddiefantastic> brilliant game
10:20 <guru3> nexuiz with the settings up though
10:21 <guru3> on my 7800gt (which i don't have now)
10:21 <guru3> runs at about 40fps online
10:21 <mkzelda> thats what i have
10:21 <MrBougo> health is nicie, and the team damage system is amazing
10:21 <guru3> it's almost impossible to play it at full settings
10:21 <mkzelda> oh i get several hundred
10:21 <MrBougo> you get damaged if you hit your teammates
10:21 <mkzelda> Sysinfo for 'fx-53': Linux 2.6.19-reiser4-r7 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 at 2400 MHz (4823 bogomips), HD: 653/1209GB, RAM: 1335/2012MB, 81 proc's, 46.2d up
10:21 <guru3> i was running at 1600x1200 with the AA turned up too
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10:21 <mkzelda> i have everything cranked
10:21 <MrBougo> hew
10:22 <MrBougo> i play 1280*980 or something
10:22 <MrBougo> at*
10:22 <guru3> 1280x960?
10:22 <MrBougo> wait
10:22 <mkzelda> but i dont play w/ everything cranked
10:22 <guru3> the correct 4:3 resolution
10:22 <mkzelda> i mean, competitively
10:22 <guru3> none of thise weird 1280x1024 shit
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's still weird, he's in a PAL country
10:22 <MrBougo> guru3: optimal non fullscreen res on windows with 1280*1024
10:23 <guru3> -_-
10:23 <guru3> never mind
10:23 <guru3> la la la
10:23 <guru3> off to get some orange juice as i did just wake up
10:23 <guru3> catch ya'll l8r
10:23 <MrBougo> i have a window and the taskbar behind
10:23 <mkzelda> l8r
10:23 <MrBougo> enjoy it
10:23 <mkzelda> MrBougo: Wanna 1v1?
10:23 <MrBougo> ew no
10:23 <MrBougo> i hate that :p
10:23 <MrBougo> i'm like AAH I THINK HES BEHIND ME HAA
10:24 <mkzelda> i just played in a tourney this weekend
10:24 <mkzelda> got my ass kicked
10:24 <MrBougo> hehe
10:24 <mkzelda> 29-2, 29-8, 14-8, dont remember
10:24 <mkzelda> i gave up
10:24 <MrBougo> ew
10:24 <mkzelda> it was like 20-1
10:25 <MrBougo> my video settings are kind of low
10:25 <MrBougo> almost everything in "effects" is off :p
10:26 <MrBougo> i think i'm in low graphics or something
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10:27 <mkzelda> bed time anyhow
10:27 <mkzelda> later
10:28 <MrBougo> cya
10:29 <MrBougo> i'm in low graphics indeed :(
10:32 <noob7> hey guys
10:33 <loserbar> hi
10:33 <noob7> I'm having a weird problem, I am using a .sh script like this: http://nopaste.info/6702c18a5d.html to start the server instance - I use "sh startserver1.sh start" to start it but somehow I get an error on line 5... hm? what is sleep deprived noob7 missing here?
10:35 <loserbar> where are you running the shell script from
10:36 <loserbar> and you shouldnt need to type start i dont think
10:36 <loserbar> since the script calls the binary from /usr/local/bin
10:36 <loserbar> if youre trying to run a dedicated server i think you could just call it from /etc/init.d
10:37 <noob7> trying to run the script in screen on root - getting a "unexpexted end of file on line 5" or soemthing error
10:37 <loserbar> and edit the files in /etc/armagetronad-dedicated to echo logs into your home folder
10:37 <noob7> I am running multiple instances from the same installation thats why I am using different logs for each instance
10:38 <loserbar> well i mean from what the script meant to do
10:38 <loserbar> you didnt put this part (/home/armaserver/server1/log/armagetronad.log) on a seperate line did you?
10:38 <noob7> no
10:39 <noob7> if I type this line out in screen the server starts without any problems
10:39 <loserbar> well whats line 5 in your script
10:39 <noob7> well there is no line 5 ;-/
10:40 <loserbar> are you sure?
10:40 <loserbar> could it be a blank spot?
10:40 <noob7> yep 100% sure
10:40 <noob7> wait a sec, blank spot on line 4?
10:41 <loserbar> i copied and pasted the script into an editor and its giving me 3 lines
10:41 <loserbar> and one more if you want to put an ##end or something like that
10:41 <loserbar> which is why i asked about the blank spot for line 5
10:41 <noob7> no blank spot whatsoever
10:42 <noob7> wait a sec I'll try without the start
10:42 <loserbar> yeah you shouldnt need to type start
10:42 <loserbar> its not a service its a script
10:42 <noob7> startserver1.sh: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file
10:43 <loserbar> just chmod +x it
10:43 <noob7> still getting that error, I just have no clue whats causing it
10:43 <loserbar> did you signify an end of the script
10:44 <noob7> it's exactly like the script I put on nopaste
10:44 <loserbar> hang on a secx
10:44 <loserbar> sec
10:44 <noob7> :p
10:44 <loserbar> ah
10:46 <noob7> brb need more coffee
10:46 <loserbar> i figured it out
10:47 <noob7> some noob(7) mistake I guess?
10:48 <loserbar> no just a common shell scripting mistake
10:48 <noob7> help a man out :D
10:48 <loserbar> okay go to line 4 where you have /usr/bin/whatever and just hit backspace
10:49 <noob7> at the beginning of the line? did that and still getting that error :/
10:49 <loserbar> there was an extra space between do and /usr/bin...
10:50 <loserbar> at least from the copy and paste i did from the link you sent
10:50 <loserbar> and i ran the script and it worked fine
10:50 <loserbar> i could send it to you if you like
10:50 <noob7> is I can wget it sure
10:50 <noob7> *if
10:50 <noob7> or I'll just type it out myself once more
10:50 <noob7> :D
10:50 <loserbar> hang on a tick
10:51 <noob7> I'm missing something trivial here I really am confused ;/
10:52 <loserbar> its a file transfer
10:52 <noob7> dcc? doesnt work via this bnc :(
10:52 <loserbar> wait a sec
10:52 <loserbar> are you using konversation
10:52 <loserbar> or windows
10:52 <noob7> win
10:53 <loserbar> and youre using shell scripts?
10:53 <noob7> remotely on the vserver ;) ...via putty
10:53 <loserbar> gotcha
10:53 <loserbar> well im using bitchx
10:54 <loserbar> so i guess the filetransfer thing is out
10:54 <noob7> ye
10:54 <noob7> sorry bout that, can you upload it somewhere so I can wget it from there?
10:54 <loserbar> #!/bin/bash
10:54 <loserbar> while true; do
10:54 <loserbar> /usr/local/bin/armagetronad-dedicated --userdatadir /home/armaserver/server1 > /home/armaserver/server1/log/armagetronad.log
10:54 <loserbar> done
10:55 <loserbar> just copy and paste that i guess
10:55 * noob7 is removing timestamps, but yeah :D wait a sec
10:55 <loserbar> it looks the same but theres an extra space where the do and the /usr/bin part it
10:57 <loserbar> yeah im almost certain about that space thing
10:59 <noob7> now I'm getting this: startserver1.sh: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
10:59 <noob7> startserver1.sh: line 4: `done'
10:59 <noob7> removed the space before that and getting the line 5 error again - you know what? I'll type it out all new, this is bothering me
10:59 <noob7> lol
11:00 <loserbar> yeah
11:00 <loserbar> just do that
11:00 <loserbar> but im telling you, all i did was copy and paste it, removed that one space on line 3 and it just ran
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11:01 <noob7> getting the error on line 5 again, this is SO weird
11:02 <loserbar> yeah
11:02 <loserbar> do you have an email or something man
11:02 <loserbar> or some other way
11:02 <loserbar> i could just send you this script
11:02 <noob7> icq msn aim?
11:02 <loserbar> cause its working for me
11:02 <loserbar> yeah, i use the oscar
11:02 <noob7> msn is node7@hotmail.de , aim is node777 , icq is 151696394
11:03 <noob7> then we wont spam the chan
11:03 <loserbar> okay, my aim is loserbar
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11:14 <epsy> hi
11:14 <loserbar> hi
11:15 <noob7> wow thanks loserbar! it's amazing how one single line brake can mess things up even on a 3 line shell script :-/
11:16 <noob7> morning epsy
11:16 <loserbar> youre welcome :0 unix systems can be really picky sometimes
11:16 <epsy> lol
11:17 <noob7> maybe they should be more picky about their users hrhr :D
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12:36 <noob7> #lastseen durka
12:36 <hoop_tron> hello
12:36 <armabot> noob7: Durka has last been seen on ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬|ITWC|¬{America|¬ 12 hours 10 minutes ago.
12:37 <hoop_tron> should be anything bad with launching server by script using: $arma_bin > $log_file &
12:38 <hoop_tron> sometimes, if i test playing, the game is strangely stepped (don't know how say better)
12:40 <MrBougo> bye
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13:21 <spidey> http://www.foxnews.com/admin/ lolhax?
13:21 <noob7> great, now my IP is on the access log for that folder too :/
13:22 <spidey> LOL
13:22 <spidey> what are they gonna do?
13:22 <spidey> sue you for viewing a open index folder?
13:22 <spidey> nubs
13:24 <spidey> gay
13:24 <spidey> both of the spare PSU's i have aren't atx :(
13:43 <noob7> hm, whats the easiest way to turn off dz and wz in the cfg?
13:48 <spidey> #armacongfig win_zone
13:48 <spidey> #armaconfig win_Zone
13:48 <armabot> spidey: SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 1000000) || SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME: Minimum number of seconds the round has to be going on before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 100000) || WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION: Expansion speed of the instant win zone (2 more messages)
13:48 <spidey> win_zone_min_last_death 999999999
13:48 <spidey> win_zone_min_round_time 99999999
13:50 <spidey> yay
13:50 <spidey> server now has 128mb ram
13:50 <spidey> \;D/
14:15 <spidey> lol@ 1mb pci video card
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15:23 <MrBougo> wee
15:37 <epsy> eww
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18:53 <spidey> <TsT> sudo/*.run are very poorly secure <--- lol
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18:59 <Durka> \o
18:59 <spidey> ..
19:00 <spidey> http://geeks.com/
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19:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh, if codehunter's site is hosted in the US, we could use a DMCA request to bring it down
19:44 <MrBougo> Young man, there's a place you can go.
19:44 <MrBougo> I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
19:44 <MrBougo> You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
19:44 <MrBougo> Many ways to have a good time.
19:44 <Durka> which site
19:44 <MrBougo> It's fun to stay at the DMCA.
19:44 <MrBougo> i suck
19:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751 <-- the one linked here
19:46 <MrBougo> im gunna try to get my virtual machine infected
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20:06 <MrBougo> hihpo
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20:15 <MrBougo> byez
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20:50 <zarchne> It's been fun.
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22:02 <mkzelda> how funny
22:03 <mkzelda> Lucifer/luke remember that day sed would produce different results w/ that oneliner b/c of case insensitivity
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> yep
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> I have an idea of why, too :)
22:03 <mkzelda> for me it was the result of adding utf8 support
22:03 <mkzelda> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-554160-highlight-capital.html
22:03 <mkzelda> very bottom
22:03 <mkzelda> fixed it
22:04 <mkzelda> the utf8 guide i followed said set my LC_ALL
22:04 <mkzelda> unsetting it fixed the sort
22:05 <DrJoeTron> sim city
22:05 <DrJoeTron> serious business
22:06 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: hm!
22:10 <mkzelda> i followed the UTF guide b/c k3b was bitching at me
22:10 <mkzelda> i've been annoyed by that prob for two months
22:10 <mkzelda> at least
22:10 <mkzelda> but wasnt annoying enuf to fix
22:17 <hoop_tron> night
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22:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> when I got to sed for my LFS stuff, there's a utf-8 patch and apparently some compile-time flags that would affect that particular problem
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22:32 <epsy> woa finally got an irc client to work on this sys resc cd
22:32 <epsy> wrtlprnft: http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/
22:32 <epsy> this might be useful to you
22:33 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> that thing doesn't even support the calculator :(
22:34 * wrtlprnft wants #google calc back
22:36 <epsy> ah
22:37 <wrtlprnft> i've got a key for the old API, and it still works
22:37 <epsy> how i do get a list of the chans i'm actually in in irssi ?
22:37 <wrtlprnft> and before i go and try to reverse- engineer those javascripts to try to figure out how to send requests to the new API without actually gaining anything…
22:38 <wrtlprnft> maybe try /channel?
22:38 <epsy> very useful
22:38 <epsy> =)
22:39 <wrtlprnft> :P
22:39 <epsy> bah
22:39 <epsy> i'm still stuck on a live cd for 15 hours
22:40 <wrtlprnft> must be a narrow space to live on
22:40 <epsy> well...i mean ... « at least 15 hours »
22:40 <epsy> haha
22:40 * wrtlprnft imagines epsy standing on a CD suspended somewhere high above the ground
22:41 <epsy> 11.87GB of 48 copied -.-
22:42 <epsy> oh fuck
22:42 <epsy> the msn web client crashed firefox again -.-
22:42 <wrtlprnft> who would use a msn web client?
22:42 <wrtlprnft> who would use firefox?
22:43 <epsy> err maybe me stuck on a live cd with firefox and no msn client ?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> how can you use a live CD if you're stuck on it?
22:44 <epsy> i'id put it in my cd drive *ouch*
22:44 <wrtlprnft> 22:40 * wrtlprnft imagines epsy standing on a CD suspended somewhere high above the ground
22:44 <wrtlprnft> can't do that if you're standing on it, can you?
22:45 * epsy yell'd
22:46 <epsy> and someone put me in
22:46 <epsy> gaaah windowmake sux
22:46 <epsy> *r
22:47 <epsy> it wont launch anymore xterms since this one
22:47 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:48 <epsy> ah found out how now
22:48 <wrtlprnft> run xterm& in the one you already have?
22:48 * epsy forgot about /exec
22:48 <wrtlprnft> lol
22:48 <epsy> even if i was still using it into my IM client this morning x)
22:48 <wrtlprnft> never run irssi outside of a screen
22:48 <epsy> ah
22:48 <epsy> so it's not on your desk pc
22:49 <epsy> and so it logs forever x)
22:49 * epsy tries to remember what he was gonna do in this second xterm
22:49 <wrtlprnft> 22:49:45 up 190 days, 11:57, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
22:49 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:50 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you try running the “exit” command
22:50 <epsy> 22:53:25 up 5:30, 2 users, load average: 1.01, 1.11, 1.17
22:50 <epsy> wrtlprnft: sure
22:50 * epsy left(whatever).
22:50 * epsy is surprised seeing vncviewers installed
22:51 <epsy> *-s
22:52 <epsy> no x11vnc...thru
22:55 <epsy> it's nice to have an /exec command into an IM client ^_^
22:55 <epsy> with curl and some links, i can just come to chat with a tron player, and look in which server he was
22:57 <epsy> narf i didn't run'd irc to chat alone
22:57 <epsy> #monologue
22:57 <armabot> epsy: Your current monologue is at least 10 lines long.
22:57 <epsy> Excellent.
22:57 <wrtlprnft>
22:57 <epsy> yeah, indeed
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23:01 <digitx> :0
23:01 <epsy> hello digitx
23:03 <digitx> hay epsy
23:04 <epsy> How You Doing ?
23:16 <epsy> #tea
23:16 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): $ÅtïvÁ, hannabanan, hoop, Monkey, silver, Szopin, \Delete(d)/, ~|DS|~zion
23:16 <epsy> CGI:AA ftw
23:24 <epsy> #armaservers
23:24 <armabot> epsy: This data is 2 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (11/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Norm's Place (9/12), Strawberry Fields (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), Sly'sServeR (6/16), Fortress Café (6/32), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5/6), Tigers Network Classic Play (5/16), (1 more message)
23:25 <epsy> #onlineplayers
23:25 <armabot> epsy: This data is 12 seconds old; $_TrEnT_$ Spazy, 'dA!ZaP, -=PpE=-Dale, ./zoidberg/, .dBd|upacreek, /.:.::.\, <<shin>>, Aaron |ttk|, Aerodynamic, AmericanAirline, Anal Pleasure, BBQ Guy, bLAzE, Blue Flame|gZ, Boby, butt dfndr, Ca$h |MBC|, Carnice, CãaãðãBãñâñâ, Chibi-Robo{IRA}, Chuck, Coonzy, creedence, Cronous, Destructo, dfndr, Dodg3, doom, Draco#2, Dry Bones, Ephrem, esoteric, Ezila, (3 more messages)
23:25 <epsy> #more
23:25 <armabot> epsy: fingerbib, Gaddafi, gK|Prowler, Green Machine, greenmonster|gZ, Gromit, Hes Da One, HI 23, hoop, Hornet, Hound, ignorance, JC7, JeepInTX, John Cage, JS, kai, King Volt, Kingbastard, Lag Is A myth, LaTeX, Legend of Death, lumiere, Lyrical Asassin, MAK, Marquitos, Marv, Mecca, Meddevil, Michas, Mongooselord, Monkey, Motor, Mr.Fantastic, Noob180, noob242, noob33, o L o, oblivios, ota|mbc|, (2 more messages)
23:25 <epsy> #more
23:25 <armabot> epsy: pancho :), pi3ott3r, Player DOGROT, powder, puk(CZ), Ravirn, reaper*, s@55@r, Saro, Scene, Sealand, Sgt Shaft, shaggy, silver, Skull Kid, Sniper, solipsism, someone, SP.InSaNiTy, Spicoli .EC|d, striker, Syler, Szopin, The shiz, TH| mini keanu, TiTo, tom, totor, Tupå¡, Twinrova, t~longballlasch, Ultimatum, Wi, WIllCOPY, winner, yigs`, Z~>, [SwE]HaXeR, \Delete(d)/, ~*SP*~Oblivion, (1 more message)
23:25 <epsy> #more
23:25 <armabot> epsy: ~Snoopy~{USA}, ~\Yt\~ Cyber F, ~|BD|Z|_|R|}, ~|ð?»lÃW|{, ¦ÃÂ¥ Legit, §høttÃ¥~*SP*~Ma, ©S¦µ4
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23:49 <Durka> mkzelda: ping
23:49 <Durka> #m mkzelda The link to the recording you put on the wiki is broken :S
23:49 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
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23:59 <digitx> #m epsy Excellent.
23:59 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
23:59 <digitx> #m epsy Indeed!
23:59 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
23:59 <digitx> #m epsy :0
23:59 <armabot> digitx: The operation succeeded.
23:59 <epsy> Pitoyable.
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Logs from 2006-2009 pulled from wrtlprnft
Format changes at: 2015-08-25, 2017-02-20, and 2020-03-23. Times (2015 and later) should be Eastern.
• Website was created by nelg
• Design:
» Layout is loosely based on an old design by Durf.
» Icons on the tools page were originally by Royce, new icons added will try to follow some of the design language.
» Various other icon selections include icons from Crystal, crystalsvg, oxygen, and breeze icon themes.
» Other icons: fontawesome

is a site that has tools, maps, and other various items. It orignally only existed as a server control panel, but I slowly began adding stuff such as a homepage and tools.
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...