Log from 2007-07-25:
--- Day changed Wed Jul 25 2007
00:00 <epsy> you probably meant « that's true » i presume, didn't you ?
00:00 <noob7> me thinks true dat
00:01 <noob7> see, the english language doesnt mean much to me
00:01 <epsy> ypu are noobying me...
00:02 <noob7> sorry, I just enjoy pointless conversations like that
00:02 <epsy> english makes more sense to me than french actually O_o
00:02 <epsy> lol
00:02 <luke-jr_work> spidey: ?
00:02 <epsy> 14 minutes :D
00:02 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf would a DNS service offer XMPP?
00:02 <noob7> french is weird - point taken
00:03 <epsy> luke-jr_work: he meant srv
00:03 <epsy> noob7: lol
00:03  * epsy still remembers that stupid quote from matrix...
00:03 <noob7> 5min are over, how'S the copying going epsy?
00:04 <epsy> i think you'ill wait 5 minutes more then
00:04 <epsy> 00:06 < epsy> 14 minutes :D
00:04 <noob7> you confuse me, that is no matrix quote
00:04 <epsy> it wasn't
00:04 <noob7> I know
00:04 <noob7> :/
00:05 <epsy> well, i'ill quote you that again when i'm back on a real OS
00:05 <noob7> I just fail at the intarwebz, I'm a noob after all
00:05 <noob7> ah ok makes sense
00:05 <epsy> no you're the 7th noob
00:05 <epsy> *THE
00:05 <noob7> true that
00:06 <noob7> noob1 never showed
00:06 <epsy> #t en it true that
00:06 <armabot> epsy: allineare quello
00:06 <noob7> #t it ger allineare quello
00:06 <epsy> #crazylate true that
00:06 <armabot> noob7: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
00:06 <armabot> epsy: truth that
00:06 <epsy> #crazylate luke-jr_work is at work.
00:06 <epsy> <3 this one
00:07 <armabot> epsy: The work of jr of Lucas-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work-jr_work- _ is in the work.
00:07 <noob7> it doesnt make sense to me after all, but then the humor in this # is above me most of the time
00:08 <epsy> you probably mean mine lol
00:08 <noob7> didn't want to insult you :p
00:08 <epsy> xD
00:09 <epsy> jeez...7 minutes
00:09 <noob7> I was shopping with a friend of mine who bought his first pair of dress pants EVER today... how do you manage to live 24years without ever owning a pair of dress pants? it's beyond me
00:10 <noob7> 7 more minutes you have to spend with me
00:10 <epsy> eh
00:11 <epsy> 5 minutes
00:12 <epsy> i feel it'ill crash modifying the partition table
00:13  * noob7 will laugh hard if that happens
00:13 <epsy> it has already ha^e,d ùaybe
00:14 <noob7> ha^e,d ùaybe ?
00:15 <epsy> what the
00:15 <epsy> it has already happend maybe
00:15 <epsy> lots of typos Oo
00:16 <epsy> 30 seconds
00:17 <epsy> checking filesystem for errors
00:17 <noob7> there we go
00:21 <epsy> YAY!
00:21 <epsy> all operations succesfully completed
00:23 <epsy> ow growing the other partition
00:23 <epsy> *now
00:24 <noob7> nice
00:28 <epsy> well, the growing was done is 2 seconds xD
00:28 <epsy> i now hope the filesystem isn't broken
00:28  * epsy restarts
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00:49 <luke-jr_work> spidey: do you want fallin-angels.net?
00:53 <noob7> I'm sorry luke but that is one ugly-ass page
00:54 <luke-jr_work> noob7: wtf?
00:59 <noob7> well it is?
00:59 <noob7> :/
01:00 <noob7> see... you sell hosting, I sell design services - you just have to make people WANT the service you offer :D
01:02 <luke-jr_work> I like it
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> I sell breasts
01:15 <noob7> you do?
01:16 <noob7> I take a dozen
01:17 <digitx> luke-jr_work, bad
01:18 <Angel-H> noob7 your buying what ? :P
01:20 <luke-jr_work> noob7: I'll sell them too, at $50 ea
01:20 <luke-jr_work> plus shipping
01:20 <noob7> I'm buying t**s - I'm a reseller :D
01:20  * Angel-H faints :P
01:21 <noob7> luke since you are an american vendor and the shipping is so expensive I'll buy my t**s from european vendors instead
01:22 <Angel-H> im sure someone must want to be the quality control inspector :P
01:22 <noob7> I actually just laughed out loud...I hope the only person with t**s in this house didnt wake up :/
01:23 <Angel-H> lol
01:23 <luke-jr_work> noob7: I'm selling breats, not t**s
01:23 <luke-jr_work> breasts*
01:23 <noob7> :?
01:23 <luke-jr_work> chicken breasts :)
01:23 <Angel-H> lol
01:24 <noob7> I take a dozen
01:24 <noob7> :D
01:24 <luke-jr_work> at $50 ea?
01:24 <noob7> per dozen, yes
01:24 <luke-jr_work> ea != per dozen
01:24 <noob7> per dozen ea
01:24 <noob7> :D
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01:38 <Angel-H> bye :)
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01:39 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I only sell breasts from women that have already passed away, so they tend to be a bit on the old side
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> that going to be a problem?
01:43  * noob7 ew
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> man, I need to take better notes on what I intend to do in a program I'm about to put down
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'm ready to work on acme some more (building up to sound engine work), but I don't remember where I left off
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02:23 <austinyb> xD
02:23 <austinyb> omg
02:23 <austinyb> noone is op or voice
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> that's surprising?
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> "omg, it's a well-behaved chatroom!"
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> welcome to freenode :)
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02:41 <P4> .czesc austinyb
02:41 <P4> :)
02:41 <tronner> Hello austinyb !
02:42 <P4> what's your grid nickname? :)
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> armaspammer?  ;)
02:43 <P4> lol
02:43 <P4> .lastseen austinyb
02:43 <tronner> P4: timed out
02:43 <P4> #lastseen austinyb
02:43 <armabot> P4: timed out
02:44 <P4> converting ogg -> mp3 80MB takes so loong ;|
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02:50 <noob7> did epsy ever show up?
03:11 <digitx> kk
03:11 <digitx> bb
03:11 <digitx> ++
03:11 <digitx> gn
03:11  * digitx is away (bye)
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07:08 <Lucifer_arma> hey, it's DrEnRon
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6912023.stm   <--- mechanical computers?
07:43 <spidey> no wai
07:45 <spidey> In the not too distant future we will reach a thermal limit."
07:45 <spidey> At that point, the heat will interfere with the function of the circuits and offset any efficiency gained by packing more transistors on to the chip.
07:46 <spidey> they haven't heard of liquid cooling yet?
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07:56 <MrBougo> hoihoi
08:14 <luke-jr_work> P4: converting ogg -> mp3 is stupid
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08:22 <GodTodd> luke making a blanket statement without backing it up? wow...haven't seen that before...
08:22 <MrBougo> oh, people
08:22 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: why bother, everyone knows that
08:23 <GodTodd> i don't
08:23 <MrBougo> luke-jr_work: if you have a mp3 player that dont support ogg, i think ogg->mp3 is WAAAAAAAY better than ogg->wma
08:23 <GodTodd> so, back it up for my benefit :)
08:23 <MrBougo> doesnt*
08:24 <MrBougo> you might think it's wrong
08:24 <MrBougo> i don't know
08:24 <MrBougo> are you a wma fanatic?
08:24 <GodTodd> oh, wait, that's right...luke doesn't back statements up because he *can't*
08:24 <GodTodd> :)
08:24 <MrBougo> *dodge*
08:24 <MrBougo> what do you mean with backing statements up
08:24 <MrBougo> storing them in some factoïd file?
08:24 <GodTodd> no...like back it up with facts
08:25 <luke-jr_work> MrBougo: no FLAC?
08:25 <MrBougo> thats what i meant
08:25 <MrBougo> either
08:25 <MrBougo> it's kind of old
08:25 <MrBougo> MP3, WMA
08:25 <MrBougo> creative zen micro
08:25 <luke-jr_work> so make the MP3 from the original audio
08:25 <MrBougo> haha
08:26 <MrBougo> well, the original audio is mp3 anyway
08:26 <MrBougo> and if i had a ogg-compatible mp3 player i wouldnt convert my mp3s
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> converting from a lossy format to another lossy format degrades the quality quite a bit
08:27 <MrBougo> indeed
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> but if I had an mp3 player that couldn't play ogg, I'd convert ogg to mp3 because it's better than silence
08:28 <MrBougo> and converting 320k mp3 that was ripped from a 128k source to 128k is lossy too
08:28 <MrBougo> i hate these rippers
08:28 <MrBougo> indeed
08:28 <MrBougo> and if i had ogg's i would convert them too
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd keep the oggs around :)
08:28 <GodTodd> ah but Lucifer_arma, ogg -> is stupid ;)
08:29 <GodTodd> er
08:29 <MrBougo> right, because you won't convert your mp3s back
08:29 <GodTodd> ogg -> mp3
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> ?  patent-free, high quality, small files, what's stupid about that?
08:29 <MrBougo> ogg is nicie
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> I tried flac
08:29 <GodTodd> dunno...luke won't tell me beyond that it's stupid
08:29 <MrBougo> +used by wikimedia for samples
08:29 <MrBougo> hahaa
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> it was nice to see a 40MB wav compressed to a 20MB flac, but the fucker was still 20 megabytes!
08:29 <MrBougo> hehe
08:29 <MrBougo> flac is loseless right?
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> yep
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> hence the large file size
08:30 <MrBougo> well, 50% is nice for a loseless format
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> but, oh yeah, it's ogg flac, btw
08:30 <MrBougo> hehe
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> wma is burdened by patents, making it inherently inferior to vorbis
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter a bit if it could compress 40MB into 40KB
08:31 <MrBougo> o.O
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> (which it can't, wma filesizes tend to come up a little higher than vorbis, but lower than mp3)
08:31 <MrBougo> hehe
08:32 <MrBougo> they should make their codec opensource
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> still, when you're listening in the car, there's enough other noise to more than cancel out the losses from your encoder
08:32 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd is too dumb to understand that "ogg -> mp3" is not "ogg"
08:32 <MrBougo> haha
08:32 <luke-jr_work> and that "ogg -> mp3" is what I called stupid
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> that really bugs me about arguments over sound quality.  In the end, 99% of people who fight over these things don't have the equipment or the context for it to matter
08:32 <GodTodd> so why don't you explain it to me then sparky?
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> you really need to be in a pretty well-insulated room with some badass speakers or headphones for it to matter
08:33 <luke-jr_work> "ogg -> mp3" means converting ogg to mp3
08:33 <GodTodd> right
08:33 <MrBougo> yep, it's not some kind of hybrid
08:33 <MrBougo> ogg-mp3-flac-wma
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, with kids running around playing chase, there's no way the difference between vorbis and CDs is going to matter
08:33 <GodTodd> that's how i said it too
08:33 <MrBougo> ogflmac3
08:33 <GodTodd> or are you too stupid to understand english, luke?
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> is luke one of those guys that thinks you need special cables for hi-fi sound?
08:34 <MrBougo> yay! war!
08:34 <GodTodd> maybe the fleas got in your ears
08:34 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: i think many artists think that
08:34 <MrBougo> golden jacks and stuff
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: I think many artists are luddites at heart
08:34 <MrBougo> with iron protection against electromagnetic fields
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, turns out that the only thing that matters is that the cables be shielded
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> and there are instances where how you run them matters
08:35 <GodTodd> luke must be trying to translate what i said from english into hick so that he can reply
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> like if you wrap your cable around your amp 20 times before running it to the speaker, you should expect some noise :)
08:35 <MrBougo> wtf's wrong with luke GodTodd ? :p
08:35 <GodTodd> besides him being a know it all idiot?
08:35 <GodTodd> :)
08:36 <MrBougo> :(
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> should I unignore luke for a little bit?
08:36 <GodTodd> i think he's off crying or something
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> or should I finish putting my computer back together?
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr
08:37 <GodTodd> er or smth
08:37 <GodTodd> :)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr_work
08:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
08:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [08:36:06] <luke-jr_work> "ogg -> mp3" means converting ogg to mp3
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from luke-jr_work --nolimit
08:37 <MrBougo> that's a deep-meaning fact
08:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [08:36:06] <luke-jr_work> "ogg -> mp3" means converting ogg to mp3, [08:35:30] <luke-jr_work> and that "ogg -> mp3" is what I called stupid, [08:35:17] <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd is too dumb to understand that "ogg -> mp3" is not "ogg", [08:28:34] <luke-jr_work> so make the MP3 from the original audio, [08:27:58] <luke-jr_work> MrBougo: no FLAC?, [08:25:30] <luke-jr_work> (11 more messages)
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> #more
08:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd: why bother, everyone knows that, [08:17:41] <luke-jr_work> P4: converting ogg -> mp3 is stupid, [01:27:17] <luke-jr_work> ea != per dozen, [01:27:00] <luke-jr_work> at $50 ea?, [01:26:36] <luke-jr_work> chicken breasts :), [01:26:29] <luke-jr_work> breasts*, [01:26:19] <luke-jr_work> noob7: I'm selling breats, not t**s, [01:23:10] <luke-jr_work> plus shipping, [01:23:06] (10 more messages)
08:37 <MrBougo> #last --from MrBougo
08:37 <armabot> MrBougo: [08:40:22] <MrBougo> that's a deep-meaning fact
08:37 <MrBougo> #last --from MrBougo
08:37 <armabot> MrBougo: [08:40:40] <MrBougo> #last --from MrBougo
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not actually seeing him having said anything wrong....  (other than everybody knowing that converting ogg to mp3 is usually stupid)
08:38 <GodTodd> <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd is too dumb to understand that "ogg -> mp3" is not "ogg",
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> (because if I had a nickel for every time I've answered the question "Is it ok to convert ogg to mp3?", I wouldn't qualify for financial aid)
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> ok, ignoring general inflammatory remarks that have no facts in them
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> I meant the facts!  ;)
08:39 <MrBougo> brb
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08:40 <GodTodd> that's what pissed me off tho...he said i was dumb for something that had nothing to do with what i said
08:40 <luke-jr_work> [01:32:20] <GodTodd> ogg -> mp3
08:40 <luke-jr_work> [01:32:32] <Lucifer_arma> ?  patent-free, high quality, small files, what's stupid about that?
08:40 <luke-jr_work> \[01:32:48] <GodTodd> dunno...luke won't tell me beyond that it's stupid
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08:40 <MrBougo> here i am
08:41 <GodTodd> luke, yes...now show me where i said ogg-> mp3 == ogg
08:41 <luke-jr_work> you said ogg->mp3, Lucifer_arma made a reference to ogg, you followed up claiming I said it was stupid
08:41 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <Lucifer_arma> but if I had an mp3 player that couldn't play ogg, I'd convert ogg to mp3 because it's better than silence
08:41 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <MrBougo> and converting 320k mp3 that was ripped from a 128k source to 128k is lossy too
08:41 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <MrBougo> i hate these rippers
08:41 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <MrBougo> indeed
08:41 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <MrBougo> and if i had ogg's i would convert them too
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <Lucifer_arma> but I'd keep the oggs around :)
08:42 <MrBougo> <MrBougo> stfu
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> ah but Lucifer_arma, ogg -> is stupid ;)
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> er
08:42 <MrBougo> :p
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <MrBougo> right, because you won't convert your mp3s back
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> ogg -> mp3
08:42 <MrBougo> floodahç
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <Lucifer_arma> ?  patent-free, high quality, small files, what's stupid about that?
08:42 <MrBougo> -ç+!
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <MrBougo> ogg is nicie
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <Lucifer_arma> I tried flac
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> dunno...luke won't tell me beyond that it's stupid
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> ok, you fixed your timestamps, we get the point!
08:42 <MrBougo> GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> er
08:42 <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:44] <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <Lucifer_arma> but if I had an mp3 player that couldn't play ogg, I'd convert ogg to mp3 because it's better than silence
08:42 <GodTodd> read that, moron
08:43 <luke-jr_work> you read it, moron
08:43 <MrBougo> <GodTodd> [2007-07-25 01:31] <GodTodd> ogg-> mp3 == ogg
08:43 <MrBougo> here!
08:43 <GodTodd> it's not the bible...you can't just clip a conversation to fit your perceptions
08:43 <GodTodd> i did
08:43  * luke-jr_work snickers
08:43 <MrBougo> sure you can
08:43 <MrBougo> i just did
08:43 <luke-jr_work> wd MrBougo :p
08:43 <GodTodd> mrbougo == luke-jr-jr?
08:43 <GodTodd> :)
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> [2007-07-25 01:32] <GodTodd> ah but Lucifer_arma is stupid ;)
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> me too :)
08:44 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
08:44 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
08:44 <MrBougo> [2007-07-25 01:34] <GodTodd> oh MrBougo you are so smart
08:44 <GodTodd> :)
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd is too dumb to understand that "ogg" is not "ogg", "ogg" is chicken breasts :)
08:45 <MrBougo> #quote get 26
08:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
08:45 <MrBougo> ew
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr is like a bidet
08:46 <MrBougo> oh you say bidet in english too?
08:46 <MrBougo> how do you pronounce that?
08:46 <luke-jr_work> [2007-07-25 01:44] <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd is like a bidet
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> we pronounce it "luke-jr's face"
08:46 <GodTodd> yeah it's that thing that shoots water up your crack
08:46 <MrBougo> i'm curious about english-speaking people trying to speak french correctly :)
08:46 <GodTodd> bi-day
08:46 <GodTodd> short i
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> we actually say it with french pronunciation
08:47 <MrBougo> bi is okay
08:47 <MrBougo> but day
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> but without the wild and crazy french accent
08:47 <MrBougo> it's more like day but not with the y
08:47 <MrBougo> but not da
08:47 <MrBougo> hehe Lucifer_arma
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> but however we pronounce it, it's not french anymore.  :)
08:48 <MrBougo> what's the funniest thing... american guy speaking french or french guy speaking english?
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> american guy saying "je t'amour"
08:48 <MrBougo> haha
08:48 <MrBougo> with a wrong "r"
08:49 <MrBougo> i can imagine how difficult it is to pronounce the french "r"
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> not that hard, we just have to regress to 3 year olds
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> really, the difference between listening to a native french speaker and a 3 year old american isn't much
08:49  * GodTodd notes that Lucifer_arma took french in the middle of hispanic country ;)
08:50  * Lucifer_arma points out that his french teacher was a mexican woman who spoke french with a spanish accent
08:50 <spidey> jajaja
08:51 <GodTodd> man....i bombed my calc test :(
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh no!
08:51 <GodTodd> only got an 85
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> bombed how? Like, bombed because it wasn't an A, or bombed and now it's threatening your grade?
08:51 <GodTodd> like not an a
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, that sucks at least a little
08:52 <GodTodd> test two is thursday
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I got through my calc classes with high-Bs/low-As on all the tests
08:52 <GodTodd> were they 5 weeks long tho? :P
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> you could flip a coin on whether I got an A or a B at the end of each class :/
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> no
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> but I never screwed up teh calculus, I just bleed points left and right over stupid algebra
08:53 <GodTodd> that's my problem too
08:53 <GodTodd> one answer i should have gottin 16Pi/5
08:53 <GodTodd> gotten*
08:53 <GodTodd> i ended up with 64Pi/5
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> bad integration?
08:53 <GodTodd> need to find where i got the extra 4 :/
08:54 <GodTodd> not sure
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> what's the problem?
08:55 <GodTodd> it's a cylindrical shell problem
08:55 <GodTodd> region is bounded by y=2x^2-x^3 and y=0
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> you mean solid of rotation using the shell method?
08:55 <GodTodd> rotating about the y axis
08:55 <GodTodd> yep
08:56 <GodTodd> find the volume
08:57 <GodTodd> bah...i think i fucked up the FOIL
08:57 <GodTodd> :(
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> do you have to use shells?
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think you do
08:58 <GodTodd> it said to use the mothod of cylindrical shells
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's fine :)
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> so, let's see.  Area of a cylinder?
08:58 <GodTodd> base times height
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> pi*r0^2 - pi*r1^2, right?
08:59 <GodTodd> no
08:59 <GodTodd> no holes
08:59 <GodTodd> so it's just 2Pir*height
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, right, that's the one where you have to stretch the thing out
08:59 <GodTodd> with height always being the function
08:59 <GodTodd> yeah
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not drawing it, just rying to visualize it :)
08:59 <GodTodd> yep
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> so it's f(x) = height
09:00 <GodTodd> right
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> deltaX = depth
09:00 <GodTodd> dunno...he just told us base*height
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> and circumference of the shell is width
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> you have to have a deltaX, or you can't find a riemann sum
09:01 <GodTodd> we didn't use riemann sums
09:01 <GodTodd> :P
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> without a deltaX, you can't take the limit as deltaX goes to 0
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> without a riemann sum, you can't use an integral!
09:01 <GodTodd> sure you can
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> can't
09:01 <GodTodd> you integrate the area
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> what's the definition of an integral?
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> an integral is just a fancy way of writing a riemann sum, don't let it fool you, every single integral has a riemann sum behind it
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, width = 2pi*r
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> r = x, so width = 2pi*x
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> height is f(x), which happens to be 2x^2 - x^3
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> and deltaX is deltaX
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> so you have:
09:04 <GodTodd> he just taught us that volume is the integral of the area
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> Σ (2x^2 - x^3) 2pi*x Δx
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> is that a riemann sum?
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> and did I get everything?  :)
09:06 <MrBougo> bye
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09:06 <Lucifer_arma> ok, do you have inkscape installed?
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: do you have inkscape installed, and can you login to jabber?
09:07 <GodTodd> yeah and yeah
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> not seeing you in jabber, did you get a new name there?
09:09 <GodTodd> still logging in
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> fire up inkscape and login with it too :)
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's in the whiteboard menu, if you hadn't noticed before
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> got your whiteboard up?
09:14 <GodTodd> yeah
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> can you see the graph I just made?
09:14 <GodTodd> nope
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> did you login with inkscape?
09:15  * Lucifer_arma has never done this before, actually
09:15 <GodTodd> what info do i put in for the connect?
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> your username and password for the jabber server
09:16 <GodTodd> and the jabber server?
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> server is included in it
09:18 <GodTodd> not connecting
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> server is your server, and user is user, without the @ stuff
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> so you have the graph now?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> almost there :)
09:22 <GodTodd> no
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I've invited you in the pedro thing
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what else to do
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> did you get a prompt or something?
09:25 <GodTodd> i did the share whiteboard thing...no graph tho
09:25 <GodTodd> yeah...it let me choose blank document or new document 1
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> anything appear yet?
09:26 <GodTodd> nope
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09:29 <epsy> hi...
09:29 <epsy> ...and fuck
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> try doing something
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> draw something
09:29 <GodTodd> i did
09:30 <epsy> grub can't read anymore my boot partition
09:30 <epsy> my live cd can
09:30 <epsy> the content of my / partition doesn't show up when i ls it on the live cd...it does when i chroot into it --
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> the manual says it should just work at this point
09:31 <GodTodd> hmmm...dunno what we
09:31 <GodTodd> 're doing wrong :/
09:31 <epsy> and of course...fsck says nothing is wrong
09:32 <epsy> know any better place to ask such things ?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> unless our server is filtering out the whiteboard
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> got any other idea for a whiteboard?  ;)
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://thecoccinella.org/download
09:38  * epsy bangs his head around
09:38 <epsy> brb
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09:41 <Lucifer_arma> ok, sign out of kopete and run coccinella :)
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd:
09:47 <GodTodd> working on it
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> I just downloaded the binary and ran it
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's not an installer, the tarball has the executable inside
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09:51 <epsy> hi
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: now you're connected, did you get my chat?
10:04 <GodTodd> yeah...but it's freakin' white on white :/
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> eek
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> hit the whiteboard button and forget about the chat window
10:05 <GodTodd> yeah...i see the graph
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cool :)
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> (finally!  ;)  )
10:05 <GodTodd> heh
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's not letting me color!  :(
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so the area in the red circle is what we rotate around the y-axis, right?
10:09 <GodTodd> yep
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> giving us something like that, with the part that's in the way cut off
10:10 <GodTodd> yep
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> so, to find it's area, we're going to chop it up into little pieces and add them together :)
10:11 <GodTodd> right
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> there's a slice
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> when we cut it out, it looks like this...
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> scroll down :)
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> ok, still with me?  now I've got a cylinder
10:13 <GodTodd> right
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> I want the volume of that cylinder
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> so go back up to the graph (I wish I could control your scroll bars ;)  )
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> if I do the standard cylinder calculation for the volume of that cylinder, I do height * (area of big circle - area of small circle)
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> but because of how the function falls and the rotation goes, that's notgoing to give me a riemann sum
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> so instead, I want to do this
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> see what I marked on the graph?
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's not too dark, I'll get a darker color for the rest :(
10:16 <GodTodd> yep
10:17 <Lucifer_arma> another way to get that volume using the two values I have, deltaX and f(x), is to cut the cylinder and roll it out into a box
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> scroll down again :)
10:19 <GodTodd> right
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> ok, do you see where the numbers from that box came from?
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> so the missing number is the circumference
10:19 <GodTodd> yep
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> how does this compare to what your instructor taught?
10:20 <GodTodd> decently close
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only part way through solving the problem of course :)
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10:20 <Lucifer_arma> ok, good, I didn't want to distract you too much with this :)
10:20 <MrBougo> with whatµ?
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> if it's close, you can assimilate it pretty easily, if not you're better off doing something else
10:21 <MrBougo> #last --from Lucifer_arma --nolimit
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> so the missing number is the circumference of the cylinder
10:21 <armabot> MrBougo: [10:23:49] <Lucifer_arma> if it's close, you can assimilate it pretty easily, if not you're better off doing something else, [10:23:33] <Lucifer_arma> ok, good, I didn't want to distract you too much with this :), [10:23:18] <Lucifer_arma> I'm only part way through solving the problem of course :), [10:22:48] <Lucifer_arma> how does this compare to what your instructor taught?, [10:22:37] (50 more messages)
10:21 <GodTodd> right
10:21 <MrBougo> aww still busy with integrals and area, volume and stuff
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> so to find r, we go back to the graph
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> why can't I use a bigger font?  :(
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> aha
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> so do you see where I drew r on the graph?
10:23 <Lucifer_arma> and how r = x?
10:23 <GodTodd> see...i have r=2-x
10:24 <GodTodd> using the x-intercepts of 0 and 2
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok, let's forget that for just a minute.  On my drawing, is r definitely x?
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> or did I screw that up?
10:25  * Lucifer_arma is pretty sure he's right :)
10:25 <GodTodd> looks like it
10:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so off to the right of the graph
10:25  * Lucifer_arma makes his window bigger
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> there has got to be a faster way to do it
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> so, all I did was substitute for f(x) in the volume function
10:30 <Lucifer_arma> now to add the magic
10:30 <GodTodd> right
10:30 <GodTodd> i'm thinking that the 2-x is where i went wrong
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> it probably is, but I'm trying to get through the reasoning here
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> so, I've got the summation now
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> it all make sense to here?
10:31 <GodTodd> yeah
10:31 <Lucifer_arma> so here we say "Is this a Riemann Sum?"
10:31 <GodTodd> as long as deltax=1 ;)
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, we ask that because if this is a riemann sum, then we can take the limit as deltax -> 0
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> if we let delta x go to 0, and it's a riemann sum, then and ONLY then can we use an integral to work it
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> using an integral makes this very easy because then we can use the fundamental theorem of calculus to solve it :)
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's the point of doing these problems, you're supposed to be learning how to construct the riemann sum
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> once you get to here (and it is a riemann sum I made), the problem's over and the rest is grunt work
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> now we need limits of integration
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> this is where you do x-intercepts and crap
10:35 <Lucifer_arma> so go back to the graph
10:35 <Lucifer_arma> we need the two points I just pointed at, right?
10:35 <GodTodd> yep
10:36 <GodTodd> just set f(x)=0
10:36 <GodTodd> solve for x :)
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> we need the x those occur at, and we know the f(x) is 0
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, exactly :)
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> and you get ... (you already did this)
10:36 <GodTodd> 0 and 2
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> you can put it on there :)
10:36 <GodTodd> so those are the integral limits
10:37 <GodTodd> then you pull 2Pi out of the integral
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> eek, the integral's missing more shit!
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's ugly, but it's right, now
10:38 <GodTodd> heh
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> you get the idea though, yeah
10:38 <Lucifer_arma> pull the 2pi out, distribute the x, then integrate a simple polynomial
10:38 <GodTodd> yep
10:39 <GodTodd> so that's where i fucked up...i did r=2-x instead of r=x
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> we had to do this method exactly as I just did it, complete with drawings
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> we had to have the riemann sum
10:39 <GodTodd> see...my instructor is a minimalist
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> to be a smart-ass, I wrote on my test "is this a riemann sum?" every time :)
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, it sounds like he hid a lot of the problem, which kinda sucks
10:40 <GodTodd> he just told us to get the area and integrate the area from intercept to intercept
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's not very good preparation for double integrals :/
10:41 <epsy> MrBougo, huhu
10:41 <epsy> #tea
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, yeah, you can learn to do it that way, but you'll just be fucked when you have multivariable functions to integrate
10:41 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): rIop|T|
10:41 <GodTodd> not sure if i'll hit double integrals or not...since i don't have to take actual calc 3
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> hard to say, the course description did include vector calculus a bit, didn't it?
10:42 <GodTodd> for advanced engineering math? i think so
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> this whiteboard thing is kinda neat
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> too bad inkscape didn't work :(
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> inkscape's easier to use
10:59 <GodTodd> probably something with the server we used maybe
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11:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, basic drawings aren't that hard to do with this thing
11:07 <Lucifer_arma> can't rotate text :/
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> oops, I put my fan on backwards :(
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12:47 <DrJoeTron> so many people have wanted music playing on armagetron
12:52 <noob7> I don't really get why
12:52 <noob7> what's the problem with a player running in the background?
12:52 <DrJoeTron> i donno
12:53 <noob7> or do they want controls for music ingame?
12:53 <DrJoeTron> they want the servers to be able to broadcast music in the game
12:53 <DrJoeTron> i'd welcome the idea personaly
12:53 <DrJoeTron> i get to be more annoying
12:53 <DrJoeTron> and play horrible music
12:53 <noob7> hehe /me starts searching for the worst midi files he can find
12:54 <DrJoeTron> start making noise mp3's
12:54 <noob7> ;)
12:54 <DrJoeTron> or loop Toto 24/7
12:54 <epsy> DrJoeTron, lol
12:54 <noob7> it'd be like 1998 - we'd just need flashing gif support
12:54 <DrJoeTron> yes!
12:54 <DrJoeTron> oh shit
12:54 <DrJoeTron> can someone script up a guest book?
12:55 <noob7> why script one up? there's thousands out there
12:56 <DrJoeTron> haha
12:56 <DrJoeTron> yeah
12:56 <DrJoeTron> oh man we need some greenday midis
13:05 <spidey> wow
13:05 <DrJoeTron> hey is there a way to have multiple round console messages pop up?
13:05 <spidey> how nice of punkbuster to ban me
13:05 <spidey> for having packet loss
13:05 <spidey> which, by there saying i'm using hacks
13:05 <DrJoeTron> punkbuster fucking fails
13:05 <spidey> i was in the middle of a good game
13:06 <spidey> next thing i know punkbuster says
13:06 <spidey> GTFO my server
13:08  * spidey cusses k2networks out
13:08 <spidey> This account has been removed from the game by PunkBuster. Please visit Even Balance at http://www.evenbalance.com if you have any questions.
13:08 <spidey> lawl
13:20 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQkQhUznS8&mode=related&search=
13:20 <spidey> LOLOLOL
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13:37 <DrJoeTron> i hope this is a joke
13:37 <noob7> pretty nice vid
13:37 <DrJoeTron> i loved the 1 bf2 vid
13:37 <DrJoeTron> that had everyone playing with the physcis
13:38 <DrJoeTron> physics*
13:38 <DrJoeTron> like rocket cars and shit
13:38 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuuApoPa9r0 this was so adorable
13:39 <DrJoeTron> doing a top gear segment
13:41 <spidey> yay
13:41 <spidey> my hdd is in town :D
13:42 <spidey>  PARIS,
13:42 <spidey> TN,  US 	07/25/2007 	4:04 A.M. 	ARRIVAL SCAN
13:42 <spidey> when it gets here, and i back me data up
13:42 <spidey> i'm installing the chaintech mobo, with the agp slot :>
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13:54 <MrBougo> hiho
13:54 <epsy> huhu
13:55 <MrBougo> I LOVE how windows live messenger eats ALMOST ALL my resources and lock ALL my bandwidth when signing in
13:55 <MrBougo> everything is freezing
13:55 <MrBougo> network and processes
13:55 <epsy> use amsn ? lol
13:55 <noob7> sorry epsy net connection died
13:55 <MrBougo> i'm too damn used to wlm
13:55 <noob7> didnt getm your last few mgs on msn
13:55 <epsy> try pidgin... that's what i use...it comes pretty handy for exploiting wrtl's site
13:55 <MrBougo> because there's MSG+
13:56 <MrBougo> I hate wlm but I love the MSG+ addon
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14:02 <MrBougo> yupee, i love my isp
14:02 <epsy> lol
14:03 -!- epsy is now known as MrsBougo
14:03 <MrsBougo> huhu
14:03  * MrsBougo +ie
14:03 <MrsBougo> oui oui, c'est enregistré ^_^
14:03 <MrBougo> crapcrap crappycrap
14:03 <MrBougo> anyway i can call a staffer
14:04 <MrBougo> :D
14:04 <MrsBougo> i have many nicks linked to mine ^_^
14:04 <MrBougo> :(
14:04 <MrBougo> i want this one
14:04 <MrBougo> bah, keep it
14:05 <MrBougo> i dont want it
14:05 <MrBougo> and you're a good owner
14:05 <MrsBougo> if you want it i'ill give you it
14:05 <MrBougo> its ok
14:05 <MrsBougo> ok
14:05 <MrsBougo> ^_^
14:05 <MrBougo> :p
14:05 <digitx> lol
14:05 -!- MrsBougo is now known as wrtlpwnd
14:05 <wrtlpwnd> ah...this one too
14:06 <MrBougo> :p
14:10 <wrtlprnft> hi eψ
14:12 <MrBougo> ???
14:13 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ψ
14:13 <wrtlpwnd> :P
14:14 <MrBougo> ...
14:14 <noob7> wow pidgin looks pretty damn nice
14:14 <MrBougo> it's the former GAIM
14:14 <noob7> and supports every single IM protocol I have ever heard of
14:14 <noob7> it is?
14:14 <wrtlpwnd> it is
14:14 <noob7> orly?
14:15 <noob7> :P
14:15 <wrtlpwnd> yrly!
14:15 <wrtlpwnd> *yarly i meant
14:16 <wrtlprnft> http://xkcd.org/259/
14:16 <noob7> hehe
14:18 <MrBougo> i dont get it
14:18 <MrBougo> there's a H missing somewhere on orly
14:18 <MrBougo> but i cant figure out
14:19 <wrtlpwnd> lol nice one
14:19 <MrBougo> i dont gety it!
14:20 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?p=111442#111442
14:25 <MrBougo> oh ok...
14:26 <MrBougo> i dodnt know about "i hardly know her"
14:26 <MrBougo> didnt
14:59 -!- hoop_tron [n=john@ip-181-44.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #armagetron
15:12 <MrBougo> bye
15:12 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@173.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
15:21 <luke-jr_work> noob7: haven't heard of too many IM protocols, have you?
15:31 <noob7> :/
15:31 <noob7> networks / protocols meh
15:35 <luke-jr_work> how about Excite! PAL?
15:35 <luke-jr_work> :)
16:04 <noob7> wow webmin is pretty damn nice - /me is gay for webinterfaces
16:04 <noob7> luke, google yeilds no search results :p
16:12  * digitx is away (bye)
16:16 <luke-jr_work> noob7: it should
16:16 <luke-jr_work> even if it has been dead for probably a decade now
16:29 <noob7> #list
16:29 <armabot> noob7: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
16:29 <noob7> #channelstats
16:29 <armabot> noob7: On #armagetron there have been 508995 messages, containing 18471397 characters, 3268366 words, 31313 smileys, and 15414 frowns; 13095 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 19844 joins, 2082 parts, 17273 quits, 248 kicks, 730 mode changes, and 43 topic changes.
16:31 <noob7> so what's there to do with armabot after registering?
16:31 <P4> noob7: #whoami ;)
16:31 <noob7> #whoami
16:31 <armabot> noob7: noob7
16:31 <noob7> lol
16:32 <noob7> #message epsy Epsy
16:33 <noob7> I added armabot to my buddy list on miranda earlier - almost like armabell now, just no messageing when users join/part
16:37 <wrtlpwnd> noob7, ...
16:39 -!- CT|P4 [i=p4z@gateway/tor/x-c1dc6c1c4306ae1a] has joined #armagetron
16:40 -!- wrtlpwnd is now known as TheRealNoob7
16:41 -!- noob7 is now known as TheRealEpsy
16:42 <wrtlprnft> we haven't reached 1e6 messages yet?
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17:02 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@144.219-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
17:29 <MrBougo> bye
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17:38 -!- P4 [i=p4z@gateway/tor/x-c1dc6c1c4306ae1a] has quit ["http://www.crazy-tronners.com/"]
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17:39 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
17:40 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4
17:51 <spidey> haha
17:51 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i'm already level 2 again on warrock
17:51 <spidey> one more level and i'm back where i was
17:51 <spidey> :D
17:51 <spidey> this game, has the worst community ever
17:51 <spidey> even worse than CSS
19:10 <spidey> 240gb total disk space
19:10 <spidey> :D
19:34 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@246.245-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
19:37 <MrBougo> wtfwtfwtf!
19:37 <MrBougo> Ferry Corsten has a show on DI!
19:37 <MrBougo> woa!
19:47 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034197052.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:04 <MrBougo> hiho Vanhayes
20:06 <Vanhayes> hello
20:06 <MrBougo> jesus his show is amazing
20:06 <MrBougo> oh you're there van :p
20:06 <Vanhayes> whose show is amazing?
20:10 <MrBougo> Ferry Corsten
20:10 <MrBougo> on DIgitally Imported
20:10 <MrBougo> if you like electronic music...
20:11 <MrBougo> http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls
20:12 <MrBougo> woot
20:15 <MrBougo> muh?
20:16 <MrBougo> Vanhayes: ? :p
20:17 <MrBougo> crap!
20:17 <MrBougo> damn!
20:17 <MrBougo> holy ****
20:18 <MrBougo> ima miss the end of the show
20:18 <MrBougo> it's amazing
20:18 <MrBougo> i will d******d it
20:18 <MrBougo> bye
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20:25 <TheRealEpsy> hi angel
20:25 <TheRealEpsy> << noob7
20:26 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-81-28-7.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
20:26  * Durka waves
20:26 <Durka> \o
20:26 <Angel-H> hi Epsy :)
20:26 <TheRealEpsy> hehe
20:27 <TheRealEpsy> TheRealNoob7 = epsy
20:27 <Durka> oO
20:27  * TheRealEpsy = noob7
20:27 <Durka> actually that's true ^
20:27 <TheRealEpsy> why would I be lying?
20:31 <Durka> :S
20:31 <Angel-H> :(
20:31 <Durka> :(
20:31 -!- Angel-H [n=Angel-H@cpc4-stkp5-0-0-cust114.manc.cable.ntl.com] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
20:39 <TheRealEpsy> why did angel leave?
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> sleep?
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> curfew?
20:40 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-67-67-219-75.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit ["The revolution called me."]
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21:20 <TheRealNoob7> #crazylate fuck the fucking fuckers
21:20 <armabot> TheRealNoob7: it takes fuckers of the excrement
21:25 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@m198214186130.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron
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21:46 <mkzelda> #later tell MrBougo If you really like Ferry Corsten and such you should check out www.themixingbowl.org , private torrent community for *non-commercial* mixes so its legal
21:46 <armabot> mkzelda: The operation succeeded.
21:56 <mkzelda> #later tell Durka Link to kodvsut2 fixed (Forgot to upload file)
21:56 <armabot> mkzelda: The operation succeeded.
22:39 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@m198214186130.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron
22:49  * Lucifer_arma goes back to running the trunk
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> it's up to 134fps for me now
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I should try it in a network game when I get home
22:53 <TheRealNoob7> try what ?
22:53 <TheRealNoob7> ah
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> last time I ran the trunk it was very very slow, now it's running nice and fast again
22:53  * Lucifer_arma is task-switching to arma coding right now
22:54 <spidey> i think this mobo swapping is going to be a bitch
22:54 <spidey> if dell really does weld there mobos to the case
22:55 <spidey> if they do, it's gonna suck cause i'm not wasting a perfectly good p4 mobo :(
22:59 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, know anything about cpu's?
23:01  * digitx is away (bye)
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: maybe, you mean like what cpus to buy?
23:03 <spidey> no
23:03 <spidey> my brother ripped the heatsink to the amd cpu off
23:03 <spidey> it was glued on
23:03 <spidey> i was wondering if i could use any type of glue to replace it
23:03 <spidey> or just a certain kind
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> has to be a certain kind
23:04 <spidey> ;/
23:04 <GodTodd> you definitely don't want something that will eat plastic
23:04 <GodTodd> like super glue :)
23:04 <spidey> lol
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> depending on how close the tolerances are, you can usually just stick the heat sink back on without problems
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> but if the tolerances are too close, you need to clean off the old glue and put new glue on
23:04 <spidey> hm
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> here's what the glue does :)
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> the metal on the two mating surfaces isn't perfectly straight, at the molecular level
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> so the glue fills in the gaps to make a near perfect mating between the two pieces of metal
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> this allows more heat to transfer from the cpu to the heatsink, and faster
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> so the glue you need has to be able to take the heat, and it also has to transfer the heat
23:06 <spidey> k
23:06 <spidey> it won't stick back on
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> no clamp to hold it on?
23:06 <spidey> so i'll goto the pc shop tomorrow and get some
23:06 <spidey> nope
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> ah, if there's no clamp you definitely need new glue :)
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> I just found out my laptop is a socket 754, which appears to be only a 64-bit socket
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> so is my laptop a 64-bit machine, then?
23:08 <spidey> eh?
23:08 <spidey> afaik socket 754 is 32bit aswell
23:10 <spidey> hrm
23:10 <spidey> all the 754 cpu's i see only say it has 64bit support
23:10 <spidey> O.o
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> looks like sempron has a 32bit version
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it just means I can upgrade to a 64bit processor if I want
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> by just changing the processor
23:11 <spidey> yea
23:11 <spidey> socket 462 = socket A?
23:11 <spidey> yup
23:12 <spidey> tigerdirect/newegg don't sell socket a
23:12 <spidey> ;(
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> no!
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> I've got socket A at home
23:13 <GodTodd> yeah...you could get an amd64 for it if'n ya wanted
23:13 <spidey> geeks.com
23:13 <spidey> has a socket a
23:13 <spidey> but it's 266mhz
23:13 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50871564.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"]
23:13 <spidey> 'er
23:13 <spidey> 1.8ghz
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, done being distracted, I wanted to work on acme
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> only reason I was looking at my cpu socket was because I was cleaning the fan, it was making a godawful noise
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's still occasionally making it, I suspect bad bearings
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> since it should be bearing-less, that means loose connection/more resistance in the fan than there should be
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, I need to move the EditorStack to the base editor class somehow so I can put the dom/xml parser in there
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> man, this guy must've polled the community to figure out what he could pack into one post that would annoy the most people
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=190691
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23:31 <luke-jr_work> spidey: it's not glue...
23:34 <spidey> adhesive
23:35 <spidey> thermal adhesive
23:37 <luke-jr_work> no
23:37 <luke-jr_work> it doesn't stick anything
23:37 <luke-jr_work> it's just grease
23:37 <luke-jr_work> to make the heat transfer better
23:38 <spidey> ..
23:39 <spidey> then how the fuck was the heatsink sticking there?
23:39 <spidey> there's no clamps
23:41 <spidey> ahah
23:41 <spidey> my brother broke the heatsink clamps
23:41 <spidey> off
23:45 <spidey> well
23:45 <spidey> i have to buy a new heatsink >.>
23:46  * spidey notes his brother cannot disassemble a pc without breaking something
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23:53 <Lucifer_arma> neither can mine

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