Log from 2007-06-16:
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02:57 <DrJoeTron> so hye
02:58 <DrJoeTron> why is tronner here
02:58 <DrJoeTron> fuck that bot
02:58 <DrJoeTron> get rid of it
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03:15 <digitx> oha
03:56 <digitx> bye all.. good night
03:56 * digitx is away (bye)
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04:02 <DrJoeTron> hi
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04:12 <Lucifer_arma> bye
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06:17 <MrBougo> helo
06:19 <MrBougo> P4z: why "p4z" ?
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09:17 <eddiefantastic> hi philippeqc great work on zones v2
09:17 <MrBougo> hello
09:18 <eddiefantastic> hi MrBougo
09:18 <MrBougo> :p
09:18 <eddiefantastic> I will get my head around it one day
09:18 <MrBougo> the sound notification surprized me
09:18 <philippeqc> eddiefantastic: thanks!
09:18 <MrBougo> i've been in full silence for 30 minutes, only the computer fans :p
09:18 <eddiefantastic> sound notification huh? I'd turn that off
09:18 <philippeqc> have you tried it?
09:18 <MrBougo> eddiefantastic: heh, why?
09:18 <eddiefantastic> yes I have doors that open with a zone
09:19 <MrBougo> i'm pretty busy, so i dont want to check for new messages every minute
09:19 <philippeqc> nice, have you put that map online?
09:19 <MrBougo> lolz, doors that open with a zong
09:19 <MrBougo> zone*
09:19 <eddiefantastic> no, it's on a machine at work
09:19 <philippeqc> o ok
09:19 <MrBougo> you should updates the binaries :(
09:19 <eddiefantastic> I need to do more work on it
09:19 <MrBougo> because i dont want to compile everything
09:19 <eddiefantastic> I'm trying to get them to close
09:20 <eddiefantastic> you know, while I'm in the zone, they open, if I leave they close
09:20 <MrBougo> heh, zones V2 is gonna change all the tron gameplay
09:20 <philippeqc> MrBougo: Making binaries at the moment isn't such a good idea. When connecting to an old fortress server, the client dies immediatly. When connecting to a new zone server, you dont receive the updates. The only thing that works at the moment is local play
09:21 <MrBougo> and crazy tronners will have lots of different maps with interesting concepts
09:21 <MrBougo> oh ok phi
09:21 <philippeqc> eddiefantastic: put a drift on the zone that opens them
09:21 <eddiefantastic> Well Crazy Tronners will have to create a new server
09:21 <MrBougo> are you going to make it official? i mean make an official update
09:21 <philippeqc> yes it is in the development line.
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3.1 at some point
09:21 <MrBougo> zones V2 can replace zones V1 right?
09:21 <MrBougo> oh nice
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09:22 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully soon
09:22 <MrBougo> about 0.3...
09:22 <philippeqc> that is the point to replace them
09:22 <MrBougo> i've once tried 0.3
09:22 <MrBougo> i was totally disgusted xD
09:22 <MrBougo> i should try again
09:22 <MrBougo> ima try it
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> that was pretty useless feedback, MrBougo (hi there!) , do you think we're ugly too?
09:22 <MrBougo> yep!
09:22 <MrBougo> xD
09:23 <MrBougo> nah i was disgusted about the sounds
09:23 <MrBougo> and the camera
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09:23 <Lucifer_arma> ? same sounds....
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> (except there's no cycle sound)
09:23 <eddiefantastic> you can change the cam
09:23 <MrBougo> err nope the sounds were different
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh, yeah, there's the announcer
09:23 <MrBougo> and i was too lazy to change the cam
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> nope, the other sounds were the same
09:23 <eddiefantastic> who is the accouncer?
09:23 <MrBougo> no way
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> some guy who dropped the clips off in a drive by
09:23 <philippeqc> MrBougo: I didnt like the new cam at first, but soon got used on it. Now I have trouble going back to the old one.
09:24 <MrBougo> how can i install arma 0.3 with arma 0.2.8 at the same time
09:24 <MrBougo> with different config files
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I forgot his name, but he never came back to add more, so we need a new announcer
09:24 <MrBougo> hwat i didnt like was the glance speed i think
09:24 <eddiefantastic> 2020 will do it ;)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: there's a setting for that
09:24 * philippeqc thought it was luci's voice
09:24 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> haha, no
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> my voice is a bit higher :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering getting my 8yo girl to be the announcer
09:25 <MrBougo> wtf
09:25 <MrBougo> that would be crazy
09:25 <philippeqc> neat! fits in the techno theme of the game
09:26 <MrBougo> i should backup my config before updating
09:26 <MrBougo> can i update from à.2 or do i have to uninstall first?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> you should, but 0.3.0 uses its own special config file so it doesn't harm a 0.2.8 installation
09:27 <MrBougo> oh ok
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> er, that "you should" was for the other line
09:27 <MrBougo> yup
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> 0.2.8 and 0.3.0 can live side by side without fighting with each other
09:27 <MrBougo> nice
09:27 <MrBougo> they'll use the same folders, right?
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> um, in windows, not sure about linux
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think they'll use exactly the same directories
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> configs will be kept in the same place, but the install directory is different...
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> (assuming windows now)
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> (and quietly pointing out I don't use windows, so could be wrong about some things)
09:28 <philippeqc> MrBougo: make a backup of your 0.2.8, install 0.3, then check if 0.2.8 is still intact
09:28 <MrBougo> yup
09:28 <MrBougo> only had to backup the user.cfg heh
09:29 <MrBougo> whoops
09:29 <MrBougo> should've installed it somewhere else
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
09:29 <MrBougo> armagetronad.exe, same bin name :p
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, when you reinstall 0.2.8, you can just put *it* somewhere else nd everything should be fine, riht? ;)
09:30 <MrBougo> i uninstalled everything now
09:30 <MrBougo> i want a clean install :p
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm grabbing a smoke and collecting a few things from outside that I don't want rained, and then going to bed
09:39 <MrBougo> hehe, funny theme
09:39 <MrBougo> err... my settings are already ok
09:39 <philippeqc> goodnight Lucifer_arma !
09:39 <MrBougo> did it use user.cfg?
09:39 <philippeqc> You tell us.
09:39 <MrBougo> heh, the turning sound isnt the same
09:39 <MrBougo> and the splode too
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> the turning sound was made by following z-man's directions, it might be a tad off
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I did use a different explosion
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> same guy that did the announcer modded the explosion sound, and I accientally committed his and then decided to keep it
09:39 * Lucifer_arma forgot about that, but it's been so long since he played with 0.2.8...
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, moving on, bbl (or tomorrow, or whenever)
09:39 <MrBougo> the camera is too low for me
09:39 <MrBougo> too slow too...
09:39 <MrBougo> where can i get a camera config similar to 0.2.8?
09:39 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: no clue about this?
09:39 <MrBougo> i don't know much about custom camera
09:43 <MrBougo> i really dont like the new camera, glance just isnt the same
09:45 <MrBougo> :(
09:45 <MrBougo> and you can't maze at all
09:46 <MrBougo> it's way too smooth, and when you release the key it doesnt come back like i 2.8
09:46 <MrBougo> i hope this will get fixed
09:46 <MrBougo> bye
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10:03 * Lucifer_arma grumbles about not fixing things that aren't broke
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11:10 <itsamemario> hey
11:10 <itsamemario> buddies
11:10 <itsamemario> i just switched to ubuntu
11:10 <itsamemario> if anyone knows how to install armagetron ad 3.0 on ubuntu please el
11:10 <itsamemario> thanks
11:10 <itsamemario> help*
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11:25 <MrBougo> hello
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14:24 <MrBougo> hello
14:24 <Monkey_> hi
14:24 <MrBougo> is there any way to make the camera of 0.3 act like in 0.2.8
14:25 <wrtlprnft> not without patching
14:26 <MrBougo> bah :(
14:26 <MrBougo> because i hate how glancing acts
14:26 <wrtlprnft> get used to it
14:26 <MrBougo> the keydown is okay
14:26 <MrBougo> but the keyup is terrible
14:27 <MrBougo> :(
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14:30 <MrBougo> where on my drive is the old cycle_turn sound
14:30 <MrBougo> it isnt in the install dir of .2.8
14:31 <wrtlprnft> there's a cycle_turn sound?
14:33 <MrBougo> aargh
14:33 <MrBougo> why is there a cycle_run in the install dir
14:33 <MrBougo> when it isnt used by the game
14:33 <MrBougo> i miss that little sound :(
14:33 <MrBougo> yep wrtlprnft
14:33 <wrtlprnft> probably because Lucifer_arma is planning on using it some day?
14:33 <MrBougo> on 0.3 there's a cycle_turn in /sounds
14:33 <MrBougo> it's empty, wrtlprnft
14:33 <MrBougo> it's an empty ogg
14:35 <wrtlprnft> ?
14:35 <MrBougo> yup
14:35 <MrBougo> .ogg file
14:35 <wrtlprnft> if i play it back it plays the normal sound
14:36 <MrBougo> you know
14:36 <MrBougo> huuuh
14:36 <MrBougo> heh right
14:36 <MrBougo> what the
14:38 <MrBougo> so why dont i hear it ingame...
14:39 <wrtlprnft> because it's somewhat special
14:39 <wrtlprnft> the old engine modified it so it sounded different at different cycle speeds
14:40 <MrBougo> heh, i dont hear any sound, except the explode and turn sounds
14:40 <MrBougo> i dont hear any grind, any cycle run or what else
14:41 <MrBougo> i think something's wrong there
14:41 <MrBougo> or it isnt implemented yet
14:41 <wrtlprnft> isn't implemented yet
14:41 <MrBougo> ooh ok
14:41 * wrtlprnft pokes Lucifer_arma #
14:41 <MrBougo> but why no grind
14:42 <MrBougo> they've implemented a grind event, right, with sparks
14:42 <MrBougo> so from there it isnt difficult to implement grind sound, right?
14:42 <MrBougo> bah
14:42 <MrBougo> i miss the old glance engine
14:42 <MrBougo> why did it change... absolute angle was way better than relative :(
14:43 <wrtlprnft> probably because the grind sound has the same problem
14:43 <MrBougo> errr
14:43 <MrBougo> what problem?
14:43 <wrtlprnft> you want it to sound different at higher speeds
14:43 <MrBougo> does it also sound different when speed changes?
14:43 <MrBougo> oh
14:43 <MrBougo> oh ok
14:43 <MrBougo> that explains everything
14:43 <MrBougo> except the glance engine
14:44 <MrBougo> it's to smooth
14:44 <MrBougo> it's more beautiful than useful
14:44 * wrtlprnft thinks it's useful
14:44 <MrBougo> that smooth moves?
14:44 <wrtlprnft> but my settings are somewhat special
14:44 <wrtlprnft> i doesn't move at all for me
14:44 <MrBougo> err
14:44 <MrBougo> i dont get it
14:44 <MrBougo> you play it like a snake game? :p
14:45 * digitx is away (bye)
14:45 <wrtlprnft> the camera doesn't turn by itself with my config, and pressing the glance keys rotates it by 90/180/270 degrees
14:45 <MrBougo> aah
14:45 <MrBougo> i couldnt play with these settings :p
14:45 <wrtlprnft> no animation at all
14:45 <MrBougo> oh
14:45 <MrBougo> so you agree with me
14:46 <MrBougo> these smooth moves arent useful
14:46 <wrtlprnft> they weren't useful in 0.2.8, either
14:46 <MrBougo> yup
14:46 <MrBougo> but they were still playable
14:47 <MrBougo> that "smart" cam was smarter in 0.2.8
14:47 <wrtlprnft> i don't really know the camera code, sorry
14:47 <MrBougo> smart cam is default :p
14:47 <wrtlprnft> that i know
14:47 <MrBougo> heh, you cant have a different cycle/trail color with 0.3? :(
14:47 <MrBougo> :(((
14:48 <MrBougo> nevermind
14:48 <wrtlprnft> you can.
14:48 <MrBougo> i thought that you couldnt because i was all white
14:48 <MrBougo> but i went into the player settings
14:48 <MrBougo> so it all went to 15
14:49 <wrtlprnft> that's normal
14:50 <MrBougo> ok, ima make my own custom cam
14:50 <MrBougo> there are only few settings, right
14:51 <wrtlprnft> quite a few
14:51 <wrtlprnft> #cfg camera
14:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK: Position of the custom camera: how much is it moved back from the cycle? (default: 6) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: 0.5) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_PITCH: Position of the custom camera: how much does it look up/down? (default: -0.58) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE: Position of the custom (14 more messages)
14:51 <MrBougo> haha
14:51 <MrBougo> "quite a few"
14:52 <MrBougo> 14 more messages
14:52 <wrtlprnft> #cfg camera_custom
14:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK: Position of the custom camera: how much is it moved back from the cycle? (default: 6) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: 0.5) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_PITCH: Position of the custom camera: how much does it look up/down? (default: -0.58) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE: Position of the custom (2 more messages)
14:52 <wrtlprnft> that's better
14:52 <MrBougo> i know there are settings for all 4 players
14:52 <MrBougo> oh not even,
14:56 <MrBougo> there should be a dependant setting for camera angular speed when glance is released
15:03 <MrBougo> i'm sure that it could be way better
15:04 <MrBougo> i cant play with it
15:04 <MrBougo> turns too fast.......
15:05 <MrBougo> bah, i'm back to 0.2.8
15:05 <MrBougo> i hope that it will be imporved
15:07 <MrBougo> now this feels better
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15:30 <MrBougo> ew
15:30 <MrBougo> i read "horney" instead of "monkey"
15:30 <MrBougo> ooh, a storm
15:30 <MrBougo> :D
15:30 <MrBougo> thunderstorm i mean
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16:00 <spidey> dude
16:00 <spidey> has anyone ever slept on there arm so long, it felt like it wasn't there?
16:00 <spidey> i woke up and my arm was sooo dead xD
16:00 <spidey> couldn't move it...couldn't feel it...i freaked out for a second xD
16:09 <MrBougo> ha spidey
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16:10 <MrBougo> i've had some crazy stuff like that
16:10 <MrBougo> but i could still feel it and move it
16:10 <MrBougo> but it felt crazy though
16:10 <MrBougo> like we say in french, "i had like ants in it"
16:10 <MrBougo> hello luke-jr_work
16:11 <MrBougo> dont worry, we're talking about spidey's hat
16:11 <MrBougo> err arm
16:11 <MrBougo> why did i typo hat
16:11 <MrBougo> ok i'm out
16:11 <MrBougo> #monologue
16:11 <armabot> MrBougo: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
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17:32 <MrBougo> hello
17:32 <Vanhayes> #tea
17:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): Devonk, Emo From Rome, Gonzap, Ill, Monkey, Showerguy, t1, [KEWLNESS]-AEA, ~*Sp*~ d3m0n, ~*wHaTuP*~, ~|DS|~sunny, ¦×¥Rico
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17:55 <Stempo> wrtl!
17:55 <Stempo> wrtl need you!
17:55 <Stempo> I*
17:55 <spidey> lol
17:56 <Stempo> SPIDEY!
17:56 <Stempo> hey long time no see
17:56 <spidey> imposter :D
17:56 <Stempo> you are? O.o
17:56 <spidey> lol...
17:56 * Stempo pokes spidey
17:57 <Stempo> you seem real enough
17:57 <spidey> O.o
17:57 * spidey stabs Stempo
17:57 <Stempo> :O
17:57 * Stempo blasts spidey's head off with a shotgun
17:57 <Stempo> :-D
17:57 <spidey> cheat
17:57 * spidey turns godmode on
17:57 <spidey> pwn
17:57 <Stempo> lol
17:58 <Stempo> I already blew your head off!
17:58 <spidey> i turned godmode on as soon as you picked the gun up
17:58 <spidey> i mean, who trusts a female with a gun anyways?
17:58 <Stempo> ummm.... me?
17:58 <spidey> you're a female, you doesn't count
17:59 <Vanhayes> hmm, luke-jr is rubbing off on you spidey
17:59 <Stempo> glad to know you finally admitted I'm female!
17:59 <spidey> i hardly talk to him :p
17:59 <Stempo> Hi Van
17:59 <spidey> did i admit that? :o my bad ;D
17:59 <spidey> we all know you're a 60 y/o man :>
17:59 <Stempo> lol
17:59 <Stempo> 65!
17:59 <Vanhayes> hello
17:59 <Stempo> jeez
17:59 <spidey> sorry :/
18:00 <Stempo> and overweight
18:00 <Stempo> and look like Luci
18:00 <Stempo> jk
18:00 <spidey> haha
18:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, better check the 65y/o man :p
18:00 <Stempo> lol
18:00 * Stempo hides
18:00 <Stempo> (behind spidey so he'll get blown up first)
18:01 <Vanhayes> spidey: graduate yet?
18:01 <spidey> but you still die, so i still win :>
18:01 <Stempo> pfffft
18:01 <MrBougo> tffffp
18:01 <Stempo> spidey and graduate shouldn't go in the same sentence
18:01 <Stempo> AHHHH!
18:01 <Stempo> Hi MrB
18:01 <MrBougo> STEMPOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:01 <MrBougo> WASSUP?
18:01 <spidey> Vanhayes, close
18:02 <MrBougo> BEEN A WHILE MAN
18:02 <spidey> in 12th grade now :)
18:02 <Vanhayes> but no cigar?
18:02 <Stempo> WOMAN!
18:02 <Vanhayes> ah, ok
18:02 <MrBougo> who are you Stempo
18:02 <Stempo> Genki
18:02 <MrBougo> um
18:02 <MrBougo> yep i know you
18:02 <Stempo> you do? O.o
18:02 <MrBougo> err well
18:02 <MrBougo> i mean
18:02 <MrBougo> i think i've once played with you
18:02 * Vanhayes will be oficiallly a high school graduate next thursday
18:02 <Stempo> lol
18:02 <Stempo> haha
18:02 <MrBougo> gratz van
18:02 <Stempo> gratz Van
18:02 <spidey> awe, you beat me :(
18:02 <Vanhayes> thanks
18:02 <MrBougo> gratz van
18:03 <spidey> i probably won't till august/december :/
18:03 <Vanhayes> only took 5 years too :/
18:03 <Stempo> heh
18:03 * MrBougo will be officially living next thursday
18:03 <spidey> lol
18:03 * MrBougo hopes so
18:03 <Stempo> lol
18:03 <MrBougo> :p
18:03 <Stempo> it's ok Van I still have 2 more years!
18:03 <Stempo> well... technically one if I try
18:03 <Stempo> but that ain't gonna happen with tron
18:03 <Vanhayes> trying is overrated
18:04 <spidey> who tries?
18:04 <Stempo> at what?
18:04 <Stempo> life?
18:04 <Vanhayes> at school
18:04 <Vanhayes> life is easy, no need to try
18:04 <spidey> lol
18:04 <spidey> it is for now :p
18:05 <Stempo> MrB do you play as MrB?
18:05 <Stempo> in tron
18:05 <Stempo> arma
18:05 <Stempo> w/e
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18:06 <Stempo> heya
18:06 <sunnygirl> Hey
18:06 <Stempo> join the party
18:06 <Stempo> over there --->
18:06 <sunnygirl> lol? :P
18:07 <Stempo> over there -----> Luci, Todd, Van, MrB
18:07 <spidey> we're the outcasts
18:07 <Stempo> spidey's over here
18:07 <Stempo> yeah
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18:09 <Stempo> she left us spidey
18:09 <Stempo> we should embrace and cry our eyes out
18:09 <Stempo> lol
18:10 <spidey> ...
18:10 <Stempo> :-D
18:10 <Stempo> come come, hug time!
18:10 <spidey> ...
18:10 <Stempo> ...
18:10 <spidey> maybe later, my win2k download's almost dine :d
18:11 <Stempo> lol
18:11 <spidey> s/dine/doone
18:11 <spidey> done! -.-
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18:12 <Stempo> spidey!
18:12 <Stempo> I missed you!
18:12 <spidey> ...
18:12 <Stempo> where ya been buddy?
18:12 <Stempo> lol
18:12 <spidey> you're starting to scare me :/
18:12 <Stempo> just starting?
18:12 <Stempo> well that's messed up
18:12 <Stempo> all my efforts over the months
18:13 <Stempo> and I'm JUST STARTING to scare you
18:13 <spidey> that was trying?
18:13 <spidey> you're pathetic :d
18:13 <Stempo> no not really
18:13 <Stempo> lol
18:13 <MrBougo> Stempo: i play as Mr. Bougo
18:14 <Vanhayes> trying to scare spidey would be saying things like: "you look good in pink tank tops" or something like that
18:14 <Stempo> lol
18:14 <Vanhayes> that would frighten me anyway
18:14 <Stempo> haha
18:14 <Stempo> Spidey Van says you look good in pink tank tops
18:14 <spidey> indeed
18:14 <Stempo> can I have a picture?
18:14 <Stempo> lol
18:14 <spidey> ...
18:15 <spidey> maybe later
18:15 <Stempo> ok
18:15 * Stempo thinks spidey doesn't have the chest to pull off a pink tank top
18:15 <Stempo> :-D
18:16 <spidey> that'd make 2 of us who don't have the chest to pull it off :>
18:16 <spidey> burn! :D
18:17 <Vanhayes> bad dum pish
18:17 <spidey> english?
18:18 <Stempo> french?
18:19 <Vanhayes> espanol?
18:19 <Stempo> Thai?
18:19 <Stempo> Tagalog?
18:24 <Stempo> where's Todd to do the "I killed chat dance"
18:27 * Stempo sneaks off to play tron
18:27 <Stempo> if any of you see wrtl tell him I need him
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19:01 <CTF> Hey
19:01 * digitx is away (bye)
19:01 <CTF> I just had a quick question?
19:01 <CTF> Is Armagetronad.net news supported by RSS?
19:01 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so
19:01 <CTF> 02that's what I thought
19:02 <CTF> thanks
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19:16 <vinavil> is anyone experienced with xorg.conf syntax?
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19:29 <MrBougo> hihoo
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19:31 <vinavil> hi
19:31 <MrBougo> hiuhoo
19:33 <Monkey_> hi
19:33 <Monkey_> i am reading the forums ;)
19:43 <vinavil> when 0.2.8.3 is it expected to be relesed?
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20:06 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: good question
20:07 <Stempo> wrtl!
20:07 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:07 <Stempo> heya ^_^
20:20 -!- epsy [n=epsy@pD9E324A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
20:21 <epsy> hi
20:21 <wrtlprnft> ih
20:22 <epsy> :O
20:22 <epsy> gonna go in a few seconds
20:23 <wrtlprnft> O:
20:23 <MrBougo> epsy :D
20:23 <MrBougo> helo
20:23 <wrtlprnft> gonna go in a few seconds
20:23 <wrtlprnft> err
20:24 <Stempo> seconds is a figurative term :-D
20:24 <wrtlprnft> sdnoces wef a ni og annog
20:24 <Stempo> or relative...
20:24 <wrtlprnft> /exec -o echo gonna go in a few seconds | rev
20:24 * wrtlprnft loves unix
20:24 <MrBougo> xD
20:24 <MrBougo> /exec -o yes gonna go in a few seconds
20:24 * MrBougo loves unix too
20:25 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: you don't want to execute that
20:25 <MrBougo> and if i do it wont work
20:25 * MrBougo uses windows D:
20:25 <wrtlprnft> it will probably spam the channel till you get kicked
20:25 * vinavil loves solaris (even if most of his hardware is not supported and this cause arma to run at 10fps and bad ping)
20:25 <MrBougo> or till i do /execkill
20:26 <wrtlprnft> /exec format c:
20:27 <MrBougo> might work
20:27 <MrBougo> and -o so you can enjoy it withme
20:27 <wrtlprnft> :D
20:28 <epsy> :O wrtl, you're reversing quotes now ?
20:28 <wrtlprnft> it will probably ask
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
20:28 <epsy> lol
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
20:28 <wrtlprnft> ? won setouq gnisrever er'uoy ,ltrw O:
20:28 <wrtlprnft> finally
20:28 <epsy> this comp is laggying
20:28 <MrBougo> xD
20:29 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft can't handle unix
20:29 <epsy> it's compiling a video
20:29 <epsy> :O
20:29 * wrtlprnft can't handle '
20:29 <epsy> :O
20:30 <wrtlprnft> g++ -Wall /dev/camera -o ~/video.ogg
20:30 <epsy> :O
20:30 <mkzelda> vinavil: I run gentoo on my U10 :D
20:30 <epsy> for remember wrtl, again, this is not ainux pc
20:31 <epsy> so cu now
20:31 <epsy> :O
20:31 <Stempo> cu
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20:31 <Stempo> later
20:32 <Stempo> alligator
20:32 <wrtlprnft> can we use a more OSS friendly reptile?
20:32 <wrtlprnft> like a python?
20:32 <Stempo> lol
20:32 <Stempo> yeah!
20:33 <Stempo> python = <3
20:36 <Stempo> what kinda python?
20:38 <MrBougo> gecko
20:38 <MrBougo> nope
20:38 <MrBougo> mmh
20:39 <Stempo> heh my nickname is gecko
20:39 <MrBougo> mine is dinosaur
20:39 * MrBougo eats a gecko
20:39 <Stempo> :O
20:39 <MrBougo> err
20:39 <MrBougo> ping wikipedia.org
20:40 <mkzelda> how do you make pyc's from python code?
20:40 <MrBougo> #ping wikipedia.org
20:40 <armabot> pong
20:40 <MrBougo> argh
20:40 * MrBougo dies
20:40 <Stempo> :O
20:41 <Stempo> wrtl do CPR!
20:41 <MrBougo> somethings wrong with wikipeida
20:41 <MrBougo> was*
20:41 <MrBougo> is again*
20:42 <Stempo> O.o
20:42 * Stempo doesn't understand MrB
20:42 <MrBougo> just go to en.wikipedia.org
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20:42 <vinavil> mkzelda: indeed, i'll finally look for a second hand sun workstation.
20:42 <MrBougo> oh its back now
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20:43 <MrBougo> and its lagging again
20:43 <MrBougo> wikipedia has server problems...
20:43 <Stempo> works fine for me
20:43 <Stempo> heh
20:45 <Stempo> wikipedia = <3
20:47 <wrtlprnft> Stempo = <§ ?
20:47 <wrtlprnft> err
20:47 <wrtlprnft> Stempo = <3 ?
20:47 <mkzelda> vinavil: I'm very happy w/ gentoo-sparc. I have the Sun proprietary drivers/firmware loaded for my Creator3D, so I have some form of accelerated X. e17 is perfect for a machine that old/slow, really brings new life to it
20:47 <_Sticky_> hay genk
20:48 <Stempo> STICKY!
20:48 <Stempo> heya ^_^
20:48 <_Sticky_> hi
20:48 <_Sticky_> hows it going
20:48 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what kind of heart disease do you have?
20:49 <Stempo> O.O
20:49 <MrBougo> <§
20:50 <wrtlprnft> well
20:50 <wrtlprnft> my heart is too big, you know?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> shift-3 = § on this keyboard
20:50 <MrBougo> shift-3 = 3 on mine
20:50 <MrBougo> euopean keyb :p
20:50 <MrBougo> oh riiight
20:50 <Stempo> 3 = 3 on mine
20:50 <MrBougo> i didnt understand
20:50 <MrBougo> bah
20:50 <Stempo> hehe
20:51 <MrBougo> mine would go <"
20:51 <wrtlprnft> " is above 2 here
20:51 <MrBougo> é is under 2 here
20:51 <wrtlprnft> eek
20:51 <_Sticky_> shift 3 = £
20:51 <wrtlprnft> french keyboards
20:51 <Stempo> hehe
20:52 <MrBougo> shift g = G
20:52 <Stempo> xD
20:52 <MrBougo> Xd
20:52 <Stempo> O.o
20:52 <wrtlprnft> shift shift = SHIFT
20:52 <Stempo> lol
20:53 <MrBougo> eft shift + right shift = left shift = right shift
20:53 <MrBougo> = 0
20:53 <Stempo> eft = left
20:53 <MrBougo> heh no, mrbougo != 0
20:53 <Stempo> :-D
20:53 <MrBougo> eft = left so l = 1
20:54 <wrtlprnft> if left = eft then l=''
20:54 <Stempo> I don't even know what we're talking about anymore
20:54 <vinavil> shift+esc = arma cheats list
20:54 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what are you talking about
20:55 <MrBougo> vinavil: and to get infinite rubber press all the f keys at the ame time
20:55 <vinavil> yea
20:55 <vinavil> unfortunately it is unbound
20:55 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/QUARG/rubber/4rooms-1.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
20:56 <wrtlprnft> if you have a buggy display driver it helps to set your arma resolution to something != your desktop res and press f for a couple of seconds
20:56 <_Sticky_> try hloding alt then typing 007 into the keypad
20:56 <wrtlprnft> or a CRT, for that matter. They like to break if you keep changing resolutions
20:56 <MrBougo> _Sticky_: ???
20:56 <MrBougo> what is it supposed to do
20:56 <Stempo> it doesn't work :O
20:57 <vinavil> i don't use full screen
20:57 <Stempo> nothing!
20:57 <MrBougo> bye all
20:57 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:57 <MrBougo> have a nice night :)
20:57 <_Sticky_> on windows systems (and in the right window) it should make a system beep
20:57 <MrBougo> it doesnt
20:57 <_Sticky_> try it into a cmd window
20:57 <MrBougo> aaaargh
20:58 <MrBougo> my eaaaars
20:58 <MrBougo> j/k
20:58 <MrBougo> it went silent
20:58 <MrBougo> tried echo ^G too, didnt work
20:58 <MrBougo> bye :p
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20:58 <wrtlprnft>
20:58 <wrtlprnft> a bell character is following →
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20:58 <wrtlprnft> probably won't be played back
20:58 <_Sticky_> well holding alt should allow you to type in a number and it will then type the ascii didgit when you release alt
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20:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i know
20:59 <_Sticky_> ahh mrbougo has left
20:59 <Stempo> really O.O
20:59 <G5_Ger> Hi
20:59 <Stempo> hi
20:59 <_Sticky_> yeah
20:59 <wrtlprnft> bell char = ^G = ASCII char 0x7 on linux
21:00 * wrtlprnft still loves the speedup he gets if he holds alt and prinscreen and pushes 'b' under linux
21:01 <_Sticky_> can be handy for typing the x in the clan symbol
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21:02 <_Sticky_> naa ctrl-alt-d is the best linux shortcut
21:02 <wrtlprnft> what's that supposed to do?
21:02 * Stempo has never SEEN a linux, let alone used one
21:02 <wrtlprnft> ¦¦¦××צ¦¦ ← those chars are on my keyboard…
21:02 <_Sticky_> minimise all (kde)
21:03 <_Sticky_> heh the x isnt on mine
21:03 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my kde doesn't do anything
21:03 <wrtlprnft> probably disabled it
21:03 <wrtlprnft> try right alt + , on a german keyboard
21:03 <Stempo> CU!
21:03 <wrtlprnft> cya
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21:26 <IDSolar> Hey Guys
21:26 <Monkey_> hi
21:26 <IDSolar> Whats new?
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21:32 <vinavil> mkzelda: any suggestion?
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-1000-Dual-750Mhz-1GB-18GB-Workstation-2000_W0QQitemZ110138568463QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11224QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-2000-Workstation-900MHz-2GB-73GB-XVR-500_W0QQitemZ280125711988QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-2000-900Mhz-1GB-RAM-18GB-Workstation-PGX64-PC_W0QQitemZ110138625610QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11224QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:33 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-60-Dual-450Mhz-2GB-18GB-Workstation-Tested_W0QQitemZ110138520384QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:33 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-60-Creator-3D-Workstation-450MHz-1GG-36GB_W0QQitemZ180129707336QQihZ008QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:38 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/QUARG/rubber/wormhole-3.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
21:40 <vinavil> QUARG is on fire tonight
21:45 <Monkey_> clear
21:45 <mkzelda> vinavil: the answer relies heavily on what you want to do w/ the machine
21:47 <mkzelda> but if gentoo-sparc is something you're interested in, I suggest checking the topic in #gentoo-sparc to find the compatibility list
21:47 <mkzelda> im about to walk out the door so i cant be of much more help atm
21:48 <Monkey_> mkzelda hi
21:48 <vinavil> mkzelda: be able to run Solaris 10, JDS, Armagetronad and a browser mainly
21:49 <vinavil> and no, im not interested in gentoo/sparc, i'll run solaris
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21:49 <G5_Ger> mkzelda: got your msg (from days ago) ... better talk to money on afl ...
21:49 <Monkey_> mkzelda goto #arma-ladle
21:49 <G5_Ger> monkey I mean
21:50 <Monkey_> i wish i was money, believe me
21:50 <Monkey_> i would spend myself
21:50 <epsy> join #arma-ladle
21:50 <Monkey_> hi eps
21:50 <vinavil> just go to the zoo and make money
21:51 <mkzelda> G5_Ger: already taken care of, thanks
21:52 <mkzelda> vinavil: running arma will be the tricky part
21:53 <mkzelda> creator 3d's just wont cut it
21:53 <vinavil> mkzelda: what do you mean?
21:53 <mkzelda> the vid cards are the problem
21:53 <vinavil> well, some nvidia are supported
21:54 <mkzelda> the ultra series have pci slots, u can throw an nvidia 5500 on there (the best pci card)
21:54 <mkzelda> for about $45-55 for one of those on ebay
21:54 <vinavil> good
21:55 <vinavil> well, i'll find a way, but i want a sparc and solaris, and that is it :D
21:55 <vinavil> thx for help
21:55 <mkzelda> np
21:55 <mkzelda> i like that blade 2000
21:55 <mkzelda> at $450
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21:59 <vinavil> you mean the one at $350?
22:08 <Monkey_> i have a problem with the cycle mods (.ase) files.
22:10 * epsy doesn't know where to put ase files
22:11 <Monkey_> i followed instructions. i downloaded moviepack, installed it. i tried several ways of putting .ase cycle file into folder. none worked. i got version .2.8.2.1
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> .ase files only go with moviepacks
22:11 <epsy> vinavil knows about it i think
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_: did the moviepack work otherwise?
22:11 <Monkey_> i tried without moviepack (i made folder), i even tried changing files to mods
22:11 <Monkey_> yes
22:12 <Monkey_> i spoke to rain )vinavil) in depth but he couldnt either
22:12 <epsy> (maybe the ase file you're using is like the default one ?)
22:12 <vinavil> you have to put cycle.ase in Moviepack folder
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> ase only works inside a moviepack, so first make sure you have a moviepack running
22:13 <Monkey_> i have
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22:13 <Monkey_> i got the classic running and it works
22:13 <Monkey_> but not cycle
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> then, as vinavil says, put the ase model in the moviepack directory and it must be named cycle.ase
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> or there might be a different name, I forget
22:13 <Monkey_> when i changed the body mod to an empty file, there was no body, so im on the right lines...
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> try a moviepack that comes with a model, though :)
22:15 <Monkey_> i thought it had .mod files in it...maybe it didnt...hmm
22:15 <Monkey_> name me any one that has cycle in..
22:15 <Monkey_> you can find out without first downloadign
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> mine has a cycle in it
22:17 <Monkey_> both of them?
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Image:Lucifer-0_2.zip
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> I've only made two, and you already tried one of them (the classic moviepack)
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> er wait, it may not have its own model now that I read the description
22:19 <Monkey_> ok thanks i will do that...so there is a cycle in there as mod file or .ase? do i just stick it in the folder and it will all work nicely?
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> it should be .ase, that's what moviepacks are expected to have
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> there's a hack in 0.2.8 that'll let you leave out a model and it'll use the default model, so you can just texture the default model
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> that hack was made so the classic moviepack would work as expected
22:21 <Monkey_> ok cheers..right........so it should work and i wont have to alter settings.cfg or anything like that in moviepack folder?
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't
22:25 <Monkey_> thanks i will try it later tonight and see. i need the fps...and if rain is right, i will get some. i NEED the fps....
22:32 <epsy> #date
22:32 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
22:32 <epsy> EPSY LOOK HERE IN CHATLOGS
22:32 <epsy> -- °° --
22:32 <digitx> hi epsy
22:32 <digitx> nuub
22:32 <digitx> ^^
22:32 <digitx> mayn :D
22:45 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:46 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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22:50 <epsy> #t en fr microfilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: microfilters
22:50 <epsy> #wikipedia mircofilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.11 seconds)
22:50 <epsy> #wikipedia microfilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.09 seconds: Microfiltration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfiltration>; BT Home Hub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Home_Hub>; Nissan Xterra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Xterra>
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23:51 <Monkey_> hi. lucifer, i tried your other moviepack and put the cycle in it. It does not work still. Both moviepacks have cycle png files in but no .ase files to start with.
23:51 <Monkey_> The moviepacks work fine otherwise tho...
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