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Log from 2007-06-01:
--- Day changed Fri Jun 01 2007
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01:03 <P4> !list
01:03 <BotSub> P4: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Geekquote, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Weather
01:04 <P4> !rainbow blah...
01:04 <BotSub> P4: Error: "rainbow" is not a valid command.
01:20 -!- crazy-tronners [n=CT@ecu148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #armagetron
01:20 <crazy-tronners> Hi :)
01:20 <P4> ^^ :>
01:21 <P4> .alias add tea "serverdetails Fortress Café"
01:21 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
01:21 <P4> .tea
01:21 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Ðúrkå	~Radian, MaZuffeR, }-HaWk~}, °¯AshitakA
01:21 <P4> .rain [tea]
01:21 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (/): Ðúrkå	~Radian MaZuffeR }-HaWk~} °¯AshitakA
01:21 <P4> !commands
01:21 <BotSub> P4: Error: "commands" is not a valid command.
01:22 <P4> #lastseen girls
01:25 <P4> #lastseen girl
01:25 <P4> .lastseen girl
01:25 <crazy-tronners> P4: timed out
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> yay, chatting works :)
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's only been a billion hours of programming to get it hooked up, but it works :)
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02:15 <Your_mom_arma> !ping
02:15 <BotSub> pong
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> hey mom, I got chat working
02:20 <Your_mom_arma> nice
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's got some caveats, the network code isn't very tight yet, not good error checking (and what's there doesn't work too well), but I'll straighten that out before moving on
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's just bootstrapping, which is easily the most painful part of any program :/
02:23 <P4> .lastseen hand
02:23 <crazy-tronners> P4: hand has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 0 days 13 hours 23 minutes ago.
02:24 <Your_mom_arma> www.google.com
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why the link to google?
02:28 <Your_mom_arma> wanted to see if the crazy-tronners bot was still doing that hey, I just logged the website you typed
02:29 <P4> Your_mom_arma: if you dont like the bot just tell, dont ban, please ;)
02:30 <P4> .colorize [ tea ]
02:30 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): always last God SuBlImInAl.FreQ Viperized Zop ~Radian ~~~~J~~~~ (1 more message)
02:30 <Your_mom_arma> luci what part of acme parses the map?
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> the map parser :)
02:31 <Your_mom_arma> map_parser in ...libacme/?
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, not really
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> had to go look
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> the xml is loaded and parsed into a DOM in resource_parser.py, iirc
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> in map.py, the dom is scanned for map objects
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I lied, apparently all resource_parser has is a function that returns a aaResource object, which is found in resource.py
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> aaMap inherits aaResource
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02:56 <P4> .alias add armaconfig "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1"
02:56 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
02:57 <P4> .armaconfig wall
02:57 <crazy-tronners> P4: ARENA_WALL_SHADOW_DIST: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 30) || ARENA_WALL_SHADOW_NEAR: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 1) || ARENA_WALL_SHADOW_SIDEDIST: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 10) || ARENA_WALL_SHADOW_SIZE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 0.1) || CAMERA_VISIBILITY_LOWER_WALL: If set to 1, walls are lowerd when they block the view and the camera is not moved (default: 1) || CAMERA_VISIBILITY_LOWER_WALL_SMART: Like (7 more messages)
02:58 <P4> can i let the bot stay here? it will reconnect every 24 hours and may not be online all the time.
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03:02 <Lucifer_arma> long as its not annoying
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know what happened to armabot?
03:09 <P4> i don't know
03:09 <P4> .rain colors dont work? :}
03:09 <crazy-tronners> P4: colors dont work? :}
03:09 <P4> .colorize ah they work ;D
03:09 <crazy-tronners> P4: ah they work ;D
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> yay, works with two clients, even
03:16 <P4> what's your version Lucifer_arma? :}
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> v1.0
03:16 <P4> i mean what irc client version :}
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> 1.0
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:17 <P4> ^^
03:17 <Lucifer_arma> Received CTCP-VERSION reply from Lucifer_arma: Not really any of your business.
03:19 <P4> did you write your own irc client? :)
03:21 <P4> hehe
03:21 <P4> .list math
03:21 <crazy-tronners> P4: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units
03:21 <P4> .help rpn
03:21 <crazy-tronners> P4: (rpn <rpn math expression>) -- Returns the value of an RPN expression.
03:21 <P4> ^^
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> P4: no, I didn't
03:27 <P4> Not really any of your business. <=- this version reply looks like hidden so i ask what's your irc client to know why you are saying colors are visible for both of us :)
03:29 <P4> .tea
03:29 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
03:29 <P4> ;|
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03:46 <P4> .nickometer
03:46 <crazy-tronners> P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "P4" is 15.0%.
03:46 <P4> .nickometer LuciEatsPeople
03:46 <crazy-tronners> P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "LuciEatsPeople" is 17.6%.
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer guru3
03:47 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "guru3" is 21.5%.
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer Lucifer_arma
03:47 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "Lucifer_arma" is 14.4%.
03:47 <P4> .list games
03:47 <crazy-tronners> P4: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
03:48 <P4> i dont know whta plugins shouud i unload
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> all the annoying ones
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, how should I structure my protocol?
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> a byte can only hold a number from 0-255, right?
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**8
04:02 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 256
04:11 <P4> dns google.com
04:11 <P4> .dns google.com
04:11 <crazy-tronners> P4: 64.233.167.99
04:11 <P4> .dns yahoo.com
04:11 <crazy-tronners> P4: 216.109.112.135
04:12 <P4> .dns microsoft.com
04:12 <crazy-tronners> P4: 207.46.197.32
04:12  * P4 configures connection keeper
04:16 <P4> damn, did you got server notice from dmwaters? :|
04:17 <P4> we got 40 minutes... :P
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04:54 <mkzelda> theyve been sending that msg a lot lately
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05:37 <mkzelda> why does the ban time take forever?
05:37 <mkzelda> banned for 2 mins
05:37 <mkzelda> 10 mins later,
05:38 <mkzelda> still baned for 2 mins
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's to make you ask "why does the ban time take forever?"
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> hey, what's a good size for a chunk of data sent over a stream?
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**32
07:07 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 4294967296
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 4294967296 * 2048/1024
07:08 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 8589934592
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (4294967296 * 2048)/(1024*1024)
07:09 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 8388608
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> er
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 4294967296 * 2048
07:09 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 8796093022208
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 4294967295 * 2048
07:10 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 8796093020160
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, what needs to be encoded in a chunk?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 64-9
07:14 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 55
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2048-64
07:15 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: 1984
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07:17 <MrBougo> hiho
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> The maximum value of an unsigned long is 4294967295, which gives us a total size of message available as 8 terabytes. That should be plenty of room, even for Lucifer's chat messages.
07:19 <MrBougo> that's huge
07:19 <Your_mom_arma> that's multiple books
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> it might be less than 8 terabytes since I just shortened the payload area to 1984 bytes so the header can be 64 bytes
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> but a message may not just be chat messages, after all.  There will be unit movements, map updates, signalling, etc.
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> still, 8 terabytes is quite a bit of room :)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's split into 2k chunks, so the minimum size of a message is 2k
07:35 <MrBougo> bye
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08:22 <Lucifer_arma> we need a really nice graphic to put in the map view when there's not a game going
08:27 <Your_mom_arma> pong
08:27 <Your_mom_arma> map view?
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, map view
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> the pane that shows the map
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> which I only just added today :)
08:31  * Lucifer_arma just wrote an encode function for network chunks, but isn't sure he's up to writing the decode function to test it
08:34 <Your_mom_arma> so a grass tile? a tile with the games name on it? or just a splash before a map is loaded?
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> a splash is the best way to think about it
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> neato logo and stuff
08:36 <Your_mom_arma> hmm, what size?
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08:41 <Lucifer_arma> not too big, but not too small?
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, the game needs to be playable at 800x600
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> should be playable even smaller
08:42 <Your_mom_arma> 640x480?
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> smaller even, it's in a subpane in the mainwindow
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> and I don't want scrollbars to appear for a splash pic
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> how about 400x200, or in that range?
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> can go a little bigger if needed
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> if you can make the master in svg format and then export to png, then when we can switch to qt4.3 we can use the svg file and forget about size :)
08:43 <Your_mom_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
08:43 <crazy-tronners> Title: Display resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
08:44 <Your_mom_arma> 432x240
08:45 <Your_mom_arma> www.google.com
08:45 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.google.com/
08:45 <crazy-tronners> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's basically going in like freeciv's map tab
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> since I just copied the layout of freeciv's main window
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> but a common complaint about freeciv is that you have to maximize the window and play at a high resolution to be able to do anything
08:47 <Your_mom_arma> aint that the truth
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08:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, qt's graphicsview widget gives us zooming for free, so we should be able to show the map in a way that accomodates everyone :)
08:47 <Durka> #hello
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> which is nice for playing the game, but for just showing a splash screen in the same area when the game is started, makes it hard to pick a resolution for the picture
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd rather not try to draw it programmatically, because that just makes it harder to change
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> #hi durka
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> #how are you?
08:49 <Durka> #ok
08:49 <Durka> #:D
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm done coding for the night.  I have to be at work at 9am tomorrow, and there's a guy signed up for a makeup lab that's promised to be there at 9am,
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> so really I need to be there a little earlier so I can scrounge up a security guard to open the lab up
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: do I need to give you write access to the svn repo?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> if I do, msg me with the user and pass you want
08:52  * Lucifer_arma goes to grab a smoke
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> going to bed after this cigarette, though
08:55 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: still hur?
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08:55 <Durka> GodTodd: :D
08:56 <Your_mom_arma> hmm
08:57 <Your_mom_arma> well, this looks nice, but it looks barren
09:01 <Durka> Your_mom_arma: CTF tournament?
09:01 <Durka> you interested? :D
09:01 <Durka> :(
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09:09 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: ping
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09:24 <Lucifer_arma> ok, going to bed now, 'night
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12:43 <Pez> hi
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13:11 <vinavil> Christine from debian answered about aa packaging for debian
13:11 <vinavil> here the reply:
13:12 <vinavil> Sure, I can take a look at 0.3 and upload it to experimental, probably.
13:12 <vinavil> I should really be more present/involved upstream; I just haven't really
13:12 <vinavil> done it yet since it seems like most stuff is done via the forums and
13:12 <vinavil> that's kind of a pain to check on a regular basis.
13:17 <vinavil> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/
13:17 <crazy-tronners> Title: Debian -- Software Packages in "unstable", games section (at packages.debian.org)
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15:56 <P4> .tea
15:56 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): 3.1415926535897
16:02 <eddiefantastic>  :q!
16:03 <eddiefantastic> oops
16:03 <eddiefantastic> forgot where I was
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16:52 <epsy> hi
16:58 <Lucifer_arma> hi
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17:02 <MrBougo> hello :)
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17:03 <MrBougo> hiho luke-jr_work 
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> look at the Belgian waffling!
17:05  * Lucifer_arma is trying to figure out when the best time to encode a message is
17:09 <guru3> WOOO A BREAK FROM EXAMS
17:09 <guru3> i have 3 full days before the next one :D
17:15 <Lucifer_arma> yay!
17:15 <Lucifer_arma> party it out, man
17:15 <Lucifer_arma> rock on
17:16 <guru3> i just had 4 exams since tuesday
17:16 <guru3> so ive been a bit stressed out
17:16 <MrBougo> i've had 3
17:21 <epsy> il est où kidanger ?
17:23 <guru3> whoa what
17:23 <epsy> to MrBougo 
17:23 <guru3> Oo
17:23 <epsy> Öø
17:25 <eddiefantastic> Lucifer_arma: just tried the new acme
17:25 <eddiefantastic> does it do anything? or just work in progress?
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> WIP
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> no exams here, it's the first week of classes
17:26 <eddiefantastic> well it works, to a degree
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> what os are you on?
17:26 <eddiefantastic> ubuntu
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  waht's written right now was partially developed under feisty fawn :)
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> (it'll all be developed under feisty fawn after I get my laptop switched out)
17:27 <eddiefantastic> I can load some maps in and veiw them, that's about it
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's about all it does right now.  :)
17:27 <Lucifer_arma> I was last working on syncing the xml editor with the map editor so that you could work on maps in the xml editor and then view them in the map editor
17:27 <eddiefantastic> I will keep my eye on it, you may get a wish list 
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> I need to rethink how the widgets are organized a bit, but I'll get back to it in a bit
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> right now I'm working on a civ game :)
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17:28 <eddiefantastic> that was onwe of them ^
17:28 <Lucifer_arma> also on my own wish list is an xml editor that perfectly reproduces the text file and preserves all edits, but there isn't an xml parser for python that does that
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> so you'll just have to live with the xml editor periodically correcting your syntax :/
17:39 <MrBougo> dunno epsy
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, I hate when I have a clear idea in my head what a system should look like, and then when I get to the details, I get blocked
17:43 <Lucifer_arma> like writer's block, you're like "I can do this, I can see it, I know what it is!"  But you can't figure out what to type...
--- Log closed Fri Jun 01 17:57:55 2007
--- Log opened Fri Jun 01 17:58:06 2007
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17:58 <epsy> lol
17:58 <epsy> !time
17:58 <BotSub> epsy: 11:00 AM, June 01, 2007
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18:25 <epsy> wow this time i didn't even polled myself
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19:00 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma :(
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> ?
19:00 <DrJoeTron> swampy is going away
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> happens, you know
19:00 <DrJoeTron> yeah i know
19:00 <DrJoeTron> can still be sad about it
19:00 <Lucifer_arma> they always come back, though
19:01 <DrJoeTron> I kinda want the servers
19:01 <DrJoeTron> but i donno if i could do them justice on my box
19:01 <DrJoeTron> and of course I'd kill the lobster tub
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> not like anybody plays there anymore
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> (heh)
19:02 <DrJoeTron> exactly
19:02 <DrJoeTron> its still a windows box
19:02 <epsy> uh
19:02 <DrJoeTron> people still go to the cage
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how well your box would do.  Swampland was on a 64-bit linux server
19:02 <DrJoeTron> yeah exactly
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> shrunkland was on a pretty old 32-bit linux server, though
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'd take at least one of them if I didn't already know what the complaints would look like
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> basically, it would be better if the servers died than suffer a living death on my connection
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe if I put a server on that machine rico sent me it would do better, maybe it really is the processor
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> especially now that the wiki's off and my own website is a static site now
19:04 <DrJoeTron> heh maybe this means my servers will be loaded :V
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> probably, heh
19:05 <DrJoeTron> i posted i was interested in shrunkland
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> my own take is that it would probably be better for swampy to just retire his servers and post the settings somewhere
19:05 <DrJoeTron> i say he takes his settings to the grave
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> no!
19:05 <DrJoeTron> :V
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> considering they're derived from someone else's settings....
19:06 <DrJoeTron> then they're already posted!
19:06 <DrJoeTron> haha I'm kidding, it actually a great idea
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> then maybe we can dig up ish to host Shrunklandish
19:06 <DrJoeTron> oh god
19:06 <DrJoeTron> that'd be awesome
19:08 <DrJoeTron> sad to see it go though
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it is
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> but we'll get through it!
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> I've developed the opinion that servers should never switch hands.  Ladders may, but servers should be anchored to one person.
19:09 <Lucifer_arma> normally when they switch hands, the settings don't quite work the same on the new machine/connection, so it's no longer the same server
19:10 <DrJoeTron> not to mention how low rubber servers are a rare breed
19:10 <DrJoeTron> oh of course
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> and it's very difficult if not outright impossible to correct for the differences
19:10 <DrJoeTron> its never going to be the same
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that I'd consider swampland a low rubber server
19:10 <DrJoeTron> how many goshdarn clones have we seen?
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> a few
19:10 <DrJoeTron> shrunkland
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> lack had one for awhile that was pretty good
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> shrunkland's not really a goshdarn clone :)
19:10 <DrJoeTron> had being the keyword
19:11 <DrJoeTron> shrunkland was a low rubber server
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's kind of entertaining, actually.  Shrunkland is just the old swampland on a small grid, then tweaked from there
19:11 <Lucifer_arma> (I'm assuming it was tweaked a whole lot)
19:11 <DrJoeTron> hah
19:14 <DrJoeTron> count down to the day i retire begins
19:18 <guru3> should i risk hours of forums downtime or not...
19:18 <guru3> hmmm
19:22 <DrJoeTron> DO IT
19:22 <DrJoeTron> DOOOOO 
19:22 <DrJoeTron> ITTTTTTTTT
19:23 <guru3> would need to reasemble my desk first tho :/
19:27 <epsy> ewww...fort café is laggying Oo
19:27 <epsy> even monkey cannot play
19:27 <Lucifer_arma> joe's countdown has begun, but he's starting at 4098
19:28 <DrJoeTron> 5000 actually
19:28 <DrJoeTron> i relapsed :/
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19:35 <MrBougo> hiho
19:37 <MrBougo> we miss armabot :(((
19:41 <epsy> Indeed!
19:42 <MrBougo> epsy, you're gonna replace armabot
19:42 <MrBougo> epsy, hello
19:43 <epsy> Hello MrBougo :) || Random fortune: ehhhh...
19:43 <MrBougo> some harder stuff
19:43 <MrBougo> epsy, cyborg espy
19:43 <epsy> MrBougo: You noob, you can't even spell my name
19:44 <MrBougo> ew right
19:44 <MrBougo> epsy, echo "im a noob"
19:44 <epsy> MrBougo, im a noob
19:44 <MrBougo> good :D
19:44 <epsy> (btw, you can't spell i'm correctly neither)
19:44 <MrBougo> epsy, insight
19:44 <epsy> MrBougo, moo
19:45 <MrBougo> epsy, weather moscow
19:45 <epsy> STFU baka noob! or smth
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19:45 <MrBougo> my turn!
19:45 <epsy> MrBougo, onlineplayers
19:46 <MrBougo> epsy: Ping timeout
19:46 <MrBougo> err...
19:46 <MrBougo> i mean
19:46 <MrBougo> epsy: Ttimed out
19:46 <MrBougo> i suck at armabotting
19:46 <epsy> MrBougo, armaservers
19:47 <MrBougo> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress, Crazy Tronners Wild Deathmatch, Crazy Tronners Wild Styball, Crazy Tronners Wild Zombies, Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo, Crazy Tronners Wild Racing, Crazy Tronners Wild Labyrinth, Crazy Tronners Wild Capture The Flag
19:48 <epsy> MrBougo, crazylate [armaservers]
19:48 <epsy> MrBougo, where are the noobs ?
19:48 <MrBougo> peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut peanut of the necrophiliac caravan of the of the of the
19:48 <MrBougo> epsy, I don't know
19:49 <epsy> you noob
19:49 <epsy> they are on durka durka land
19:49 <MrBougo> <no #, no answer>
19:49 <epsy> ^^
19:49 <epsy> why did you answered then ?
19:49 <MrBougo> <no #, no answer>
19:50 <epsy> you n00b
19:50 <epsy> MrBougo, you n00b
19:50 <MrBougo> epsy, NEVER
19:50 <epsy> ball ?
19:51 <epsy> MrBougo, or neverputt ?
19:51 <MrBougo> epsy, huh?
19:51 <epsy> MrBougo, uhu
19:52 <epsy> MrBougo, delire
19:52 <epsy> !delire
19:52 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "delire" is not a valid command.
19:52 <MrBougo> :DDDD
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19:52 <epsy> !alias add delire Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:52 <BotSub> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:52 <epsy> !delire
19:52 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "Fasten" is not a valid command.
19:52 <epsy> !alias add delire echo Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:52 <BotSub> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:52 <epsy> !delire
19:52 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:53 <epsy> !alias add nodelire echo Ok, i wont kick you
19:53 <BotSub> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:53 <epsy> !nodelire
19:53 <BotSub> Ok, i wont kick you
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19:54 <MrBougo> rofl
19:54 <epsy> lfar
19:54 <epsy> *lfor
19:54 <MrBougo> !alias add add hehe?
19:54 <BotSub> MrBougo: Error: You can't overwrite commands in this plugin.
19:54 <MrBougo> :(((
19:54 <epsy> !hehe
19:54 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "hehe" is not a valid command.
19:54 <epsy> !list alias
19:54 <BotSub> epsy: add, c, calc, delire, lock, luke, m, night, nodelire, q, remove, and unlock
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19:54 <epsy> !luke
19:54 <BotSub> blah blah jesus blah blah i'm great or smth blah blah RTFM blah blah stfu baka noob blah blah
19:56 <MrBougo> !alias add epsy I suck :DDDD
19:56 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:56 <MrBougo> it's hidden
19:56 <MrBougo> :D
19:56 <MrBougo> i cheated
19:56 <epsy> why are you putting a U+000F
19:56 <MrBougo> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
19:56 <MrBougo> + some more w
19:57 <epsy> while (true) echo "w";
19:57 <MrBougo> !alias add add Heeee
19:57 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:57 <MrBougo> !alias add
19:57 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:57 <epsy> lol
19:57 <epsy> !add
19:57 <BotSub> epsy: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Herald, Praise, Quote, RSS, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
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19:57 <epsy> !alias add
19:57 <BotSub> epsy: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and (1 more message)
19:57 <MrBougo> !alias remove add
19:57 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
19:57 <epsy> !list alias
19:57 <BotSub> epsy: add, c, calc, delire, lock, luke, m, night, nodelire, q, remove, and unlock
19:57 <MrBougo> !alias add remove
19:57 <BotSub> MrBougo: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," (1 more message)
19:57 <MrBougo> !night
19:57 <BotSub> Goodnight MrBougo :(
19:57 <epsy> !epsy
19:58 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "epsy" is not a valid command.
19:58 <MrBougo> some poeple on benmac are too serious
19:58 <epsy> lol what thay do want ?
19:59 <MrBougo> people that wann,a have fun
19:59 <MrBougo> and not attack bases D:
19:59 <epsy> i remember when unison built 180 nodes xD
20:00 <epsy> but i still can't see how to get the no-hitbox thing
20:00 <MrBougo> :(
20:00 <MrBougo> /god maybe
20:00 <MrBougo> oooh
20:00 <MrBougo> /noclip
20:00 <epsy> /buy god
20:00 <epsy> :)
20:00 <MrBougo> heh
20:00 <epsy> no noclipdoesn't work
20:00 <MrBougo> whats the no-hitbox thingy
20:00 <epsy> « cheats are disabled on this server »
20:00 <MrBougo> i know
20:01 <MrBougo> they have to be enabled fisrt
20:01 <epsy> MrBougo, if i knew
20:01 <MrBougo> you need an admin
20:01 <MrBougo> who would load some funny script
20:01 <epsy> (which name is benmac0019.pk3)
20:05 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/trem-bunnyyyy
20:05 <crazy-tronners> <http://ln-s.net/_$h> (at epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539)
20:05 <epsy> crazy-tronners, stfu
20:05 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: "stfu" is not a valid command.
20:14 <MrBougo> bye
20:14 <MrBougo> epsy, wtf's this
20:14 <MrBougo> crazy-tronners, help
20:14 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:14 <MrBougo> epsy
20:14 <MrBougo> what's this
20:15 <epsy> ??
20:15 <MrBougo> no, soem funny script with commands to disable buildtime, 999bp, cheat on
20:15 <MrBougo> epsy, your screenie
20:15 <MrBougo> how did you do that?
20:16 <MrBougo> epsy: epsy epsy epsy epsy epsy epsy epsy 
20:16 <MrBougo> bye..
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20:54 <Lucifer_arma> you know, instead of reading about the GPL, I'd rather write more GPL code
20:55 <epsy> lol
20:59 <Lucifer_arma> does anybody here care about GPL v3, anyway?
21:00 <luke-jr_work> dunno
21:00 <epsy> not me :P
21:01 <epsy> i'm preferring BSD anyways
21:01 <luke-jr_work> I'd rather write my own short and simple license
21:01 <epsy> (which is short and simple, btw)
21:01 <Lucifer_arma> in a perfect world, or at least a world with about 20% of the greed this one has, I'd prefer BSD too
21:02 <luke-jr_work> "All rights are granted provided you offer free of charge the source code along with any program you distribute."
21:02 <epsy> BSD is for me the « truth » of what a free licence would be
21:02 <luke-jr_work> in a perfect world, we wouldn't need licenses
21:02 <epsy> in a perfect world, we wouldn't exist
21:02 <Lucifer_arma> only as long as you make the assumption that people will behave with the software as far as distributing it are concerned can I agree with you
21:02 <epsy> stop dreaming about the perfect world
21:02 <luke-jr_work> that's part of it being a perfect world
21:03 <epsy> just support your world, or don't, at your choice
21:03 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, as long as it's perfectly ok to bite the hand that feeds you (which it is in a capitalistic society), then I won't release under BSD license
21:03 <epsy> (*just live with the real world, or don't, it's up to you)
21:04 <epsy> you know what ?
21:04 <epsy> i don't care about what they are fucknig doing
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> really?  So they come back and bitchslap you for the program you wrote and you're fine with that?
21:05 <epsy> i don't know why they would bitchslap me...
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> "Hey you asshole, this program you wrote opened up a hole in my mother's brother's cousin's former roommate's computer and his identity got stolen, I'm kicking your ass!"
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> or how about this:
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> "Hey dickhead, this program you wrote pissed off the communists in China, and now we have to kill you or else they'll send our ambassador back"
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, then there's the james bond scenario
21:06 <epsy> what does the bsd do in this ??????
21:06 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: how about my license?
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> lets them hide the fact that you wrote the program they're bitching about :)
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> of course, each statement contains "program you wrote"
21:08 <epsy> i simply say: « it was hAit who wrote that program, not me »
21:08 <epsy> xD
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> I was actually thinking more like you write a good socket library, napster uses it to let people freely exchange music, and the record companies come after you, too
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> because napster says you wrote the network part, they just wrote the ui
21:09 <epsy> i'm really afraid where does the bsd come in there ?
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> sure, you can ultimately become exonerated by showing your code
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> because the bsd allows napster in that situation to withhold the code
21:10 <epsy> you put a warning, that there isn't any warranty...
21:10 <Lucifer_arma> the reason why I say 20% greed and I like BSD is because the share and share-alike that we're all raised with is getting overruled by selfish greed
21:10 <epsy> my code gets shared, what then ?
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> decrease the selfish greed by a substantial amount so the share-and-share-alike attitudes can come out from where they're hiding, and I'm down with the BSD license
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's all I'm saying.  I think people should share and share alike, and if they don't want to do that, then I don't want them to use my code
21:12 <Vanhayes> Anyone up for some civ?
21:12 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: ...
21:12 <epsy> haha xD
21:12 <luke-jr_work> *maybe* in 4 hours
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> no civ!
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> which reminds me, I was trying to work on my network protocol
21:12 <epsy> i pretty munch fucked my script and now i'm too lazy to get back on it
21:13 <epsy> i wrote about all the code of it at school...i have it on paper
21:13 <epsy> i just have to type it
21:13 <epsy> but i'm too lazy to do that
21:13 <Vanhayes> oh ya, luke-jr_work, I hoped you learned your lesson about giving me any power at all
21:14 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: don't use glob2 as an example with that
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21:27 <Lucifer_arma> correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know that luke-jr and "learned your lesson" belong in the same sentence
21:27 <luke-jr_work> no
21:30 <Vanhayes> no they dont, or no you didnt?
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> no they don't
21:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr and "learned" don't belong in the same sentence
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> now I remember where I was, working on the login again
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, unless that sentence is "I just learned that luke-jr is an asshat"
21:31 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ?
21:31 <GodTodd> that's like saying "i just learned the sky is blue"....it just *is* ;)
21:31 <Lucifer_arma> self-evident, even
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> so how's calc going, GodTodd (hi there!) ?
21:32 <GodTodd> yep
21:32 <GodTodd> going ok for a class i've only had twice so far 
21:32 <GodTodd> heh
21:32 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you're wrong, but I refuse to correct you
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> by my count you should be about to take your first derivative
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> or still reviewing precal?
21:32 <GodTodd> we're on limits
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> the sequence that I don't think can be changed is review precal->limits->derivative
21:33 <GodTodd> we didn't review precal
21:33 <GodTodd> just jumped into limits then learning mathematica
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> not even a 5 minute "this is a function" review?
21:33 <GodTodd> nope
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> did the teacher even ask "do you know logarithms?"
21:33 <GodTodd> nope
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> fun :)
21:33 <GodTodd> :)
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> that knocks out the whole first test from my calc 1 class ;)
21:34 <GodTodd> heh
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, the derivative was on it, but it was simple functions using the difference quotient
21:34 <GodTodd> we did that in precal
21:34 <luke-jr_work> "know" logarithms?
21:34 <luke-jr_work> wtf is there to know?
21:34 <luke-jr_work> it's just basic numbers
21:34 <Lucifer_arma> so there's a warning in the syllabus that says "If you didn't just finish precal, you signed up for the wrong class."?
21:35 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: we're discussing education...wait till we're on a subject you know about
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, when you take the limit of the difference quotient as h goes to 0, you get the derivative
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> assuming you learned it with an h in the denominator
21:35 <GodTodd> we did
21:35 <Lucifer_arma> well there you go, now you're a step up from the class.  :)  (you didn't do limits in precal, did you?)
21:36 <GodTodd> we covered instantaneous speed and stuff too
21:36 <Lucifer_arma> now you just need to figure out how to take that limit without blowing it up
21:36 <GodTodd> nope...we did conics but not limits
21:36 <luke-jr_work> blowing it up would be more fun
21:37 <GodTodd> oh...that's right...christians like to kill people with explosives
21:37 <GodTodd> heh
21:37 <luke-jr_work> explosives are for babies...
21:38 <GodTodd> you kill babies?
21:38 <GodTodd> stupid fucker
21:39 <epsy> what's best in that quote from luke-jr is his name « luke-jr_work »
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_force*distance
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh alright, you guys have piqued my curiosity
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .last --from luke-jr
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .last --from luke-jr_work
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: [21:40:08] <luke-jr_work> explosives are for babies...
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .last --from luke-jr_work --limit 10
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .last --from luke-jr_work 10
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .last --from luke-jr_work --nolimit
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: [21:40:08] <luke-jr_work> explosives are for babies..., [21:38:48] <luke-jr_work> blowing it up would be more fun, [21:36:59] <luke-jr_work> it's just basic numbers, [21:36:56] <luke-jr_work> wtf is there to know?, [21:36:53] <luke-jr_work> "know" logarithms?, [21:34:48] <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you're wrong, but I refuse to correct you, [21:30:14] <luke-jr_work> no, [21:16:46] (2 more messages)
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> .more
21:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: don't use glob2 as an example with that, [21:14:29] <luke-jr_work> *maybe* in 4 hours, [21:14:23] <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: ..., [21:09:14] <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: how about my license?, [21:05:14] <luke-jr_work> that's part of it being a perfect world, [21:04:35] <luke-jr_work> in a perfect world, we wouldn't need licenses, [21:04:21] <luke-jr_work> "All (1 more message)
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> for nothing, all for nothing
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> why did I think there'd be something interesting in there?
21:41 <GodTodd> so if you do a function of luke-jr_work's ignorance, would the limit not exist?
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, luke-jr_work (hi there!) , I have no intention of doing anything remotely like glob2's network code
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what the function is dependent on
21:42 <epsy> .last --from luke-jr_work --with obsolete
21:42 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> if it's luke-jr_work's ignorance with respect to time, then the limit as time increases is 0
21:42 <epsy> .last --from luke-jr_work --with for babies
21:42 <crazy-tronners> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
21:42 <GodTodd> dependent on whether or not you can live without a functioning brain ;)
21:42 <epsy> .last --from luke-jr_work --with for babies --nolimit
21:42 <crazy-tronners> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
21:42 <luke-jr_work> what happened to armabot?
21:42 <epsy> .last --with for babies --nolimit
21:42 <crazy-tronners> epsy: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
21:43 <epsy> splitted out
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, if it's taken with respect to distance, then as distance grows, the limit becomes more irrelevant :)
21:43 <GodTodd> heh
21:43 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, timesheet
21:44 <GodTodd> time to sheet?
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> 27.75 hours this week
21:44 <GodTodd> i already went sheet
21:44 <Lucifer_arma> but that's because monday was a holiday, which otherwise would have been another 8 hours
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'm suddenly not really in the mood to finish the login stuff, but it's a blocker for anything else
21:45 <Lucifer_arma> have to get into the new protocol I just designed before anything else can happen
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I need a byte to signal whether or not the chunk requires an ACK
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guess that's not terribly necessary using a stream socket, but if we were to switch over to udp, it would matter a lot :)
21:47 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: it'd be cool if it was XMPP-based
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21:55 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: ltciv?
21:55 <Vanhayes> is that 1 turn civ?
21:55 <Vanhayes> because ltciv makes no sense to me
21:56 <luke-jr_work> 24hr timeout
21:56 <luke-jr_work> http://www.longturn.org/lt-classic-3-started
21:56 <luke-jr_work> just started
21:56 <crazy-tronners> Title: LT-classic-3 - started | Longturn (at www.longturn.org)
21:57 <luke-jr_work> crazy-tronners: wtf?
21:57 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: Error: "wtf?" is not a valid command.
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's a drupal site
22:02 <GodTodd> hrmm...at least my bot doesn't get mouthy everytime someone links a site...
22:02 <GodTodd> heh
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't decided if I like that feature or not
22:04 <Lucifer_arma> but as long as P4 isn't in here masturbating his bot, I don't know that I care too much if it's here
22:06 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> oops, looks like I forgot to write the encode/decode functions for login
22:11 <epsy> ftp is so damn slow -.-
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> compared to ... ?
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> zmodem?
22:12 <luke-jr_work> encode/decode why?
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> kermit?
22:12 <epsy> since now 10 minutes i'm sending xaraya to my personal space
22:12 <epsy> 7% done
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's your internet connection, not the protocol?
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> I say that because when I was still on cable, I could get 1000kb/sec with ftp
22:13 <epsy> nothing uses my net connection, execpt the ftp client, xchat, gajim, and amsn
22:13 <luke-jr_work> FTP sends the data over TCP w/o any overhead
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> but not with http, and I suspect that's because ftp servers are optimized for large, long file transfers where web servers aren't
22:13 <luke-jr_work> the only difference between FTP and HTTP is how the transfer is established/initiated
22:14 <epsy> Oo
22:14 <epsy> ETA 1:18:00
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> how big is the file?
22:14 <epsy> are...
22:14 <luke-jr_work> is...
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's good that you're looking at your own usage first, though.  The grid is full of people who don't...  but oftentimes, prevailing conditions on the internet can screw you no matter how good you are with your own machine
22:17 <epsy> 41 Mo are the files
22:17 <luke-jr_work> I like in MO
22:18 <epsy> i'm just hoping the connection won't break in the middle of the transfert
22:18 <luke-jr_work> why?
22:18 <luke-jr_work> FTP supports resuming transfers
22:18 <epsy> because ftp connections often breaks
22:19 <luke-jr_work> so?
22:19 <luke-jr_work> anyway, the flaw in FTP is authentication, security, and privacy
22:19 <luke-jr_work> everything else is fine
22:19 <epsy> and so i'ill have to check one hour long if the connection didn't break
22:26 <P4> is there any problem with crazy-tronners?
22:27 <epsy> http://notlong.com/links/
22:27 <epsy> http://notlong.com/links/
22:27 <epsy> http://notlong.com/links/
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> besides being just another damn clan?
22:27 <crazy-tronners> Title: notlong Free Short URL Redirection: Sites That Shorten Long URLs (at notlong.com)
22:27 <crazy-tronners> Title: notlong Free Short URL Redirection: Sites That Shorten Long URLs (at notlong.com)
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> er wait, you're talking about the bot
22:27 <P4> oh
22:27 <crazy-tronners> Title: notlong Free Short URL Redirection: Sites That Shorten Long URLs (at notlong.com)
22:27 <epsy> ...
22:27 <P4> this crappy page titles
22:27 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
22:27 <epsy> i hate this
22:27 <P4> i haven't know about that
22:27 <P4> i'll fix it...
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> don't fix the ... thing though
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> that keeps luke in check
22:27 <epsy> xD
22:27 <epsy> !delire
22:27 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
22:28 <epsy> !nodelire
22:28 <BotSub> Ok, i wont kick you
22:28 <P4> http://notlong.com/links/
22:28 <P4> seems like fixed
22:28 <epsy> good
22:28 <epsy> ty :)
22:28 <P4> anything else? :}
22:28 <epsy> ...
22:28 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> no!
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> don't fix that one!
22:28 <epsy> :)
22:28 <P4> :P
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> that's like the automatic bitch-at-luke thing
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> now if you can just make it work for Lucifer_arma: ...
22:29 <epsy> .-*{([ø|¦|ø])}*-.
22:29 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: "ø|¦|ø" is not a valid command.
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer epsy
22:29 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "epsy" is 0.0%.
22:29 <P4> .alias add .. [do slaps $nick]
22:29  * crazy-tronners slaps $nick
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer crazy-tronners
22:29 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "crazy-tronners" is 14.4%.
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> ...
22:29 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
22:29 <P4> .alias add .. "do slaps $nick"
22:29 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
22:29 <P4> ...
22:29  * crazy-tronners slaps P4
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> ...
22:29 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> haha
22:30 <P4> aww
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> it was a nice thought, though
22:30 <P4> hmm
22:33 <P4> try ... again
22:34 <GodTodd> ...
22:34  * crazy-tronners slaps GodTodd
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22:34 <P4> :}
22:35 <GodTodd> anyways...gotta go put away my meat ;)
22:35 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma can you see if the lobster tub shows up on your master server list
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> er, not riht this minute, sorry
22:46 <luke-jr_work> .alias add .. 
22:46 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and (1 more message)
22:46 <luke-jr_work> .alias add .. ""
22:46 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
22:46 <luke-jr_work> ..
22:46 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: Error: "." is not a valid command.
22:46 <luke-jr_work> ...
22:46 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: Error: "" is not a valid command.
22:46 <luke-jr_work> bah
22:47 <luke-jr_work> .rss
22:47 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
22:47 <luke-jr_work> .rss http://timeout
22:47 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_work: Unable to download feed.
22:47 <luke-jr_work> hm
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23:13 <P4> ...
23:13 <crazy-tronners> P4: Error: "" is not a valid command.
23:13 <P4> .alias remove ..
23:13 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
23:13 <P4> .alias add .. "do [rain slaps $nick]"
23:13 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
23:13 <P4> ...
23:13  * crazy-tronners slaps P
23:14 <P4> .alias add .. "do [rot13 slaps $nick]"
23:14 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
23:14 <P4> ...
23:14  * crazy-tronners fyncf C4
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> see, this bot-masturbation is annoying
23:14 <P4> what you mean?
23:14 <P4> remove it if unwanted
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> why not just /msg it to keep the testing light on the channel?
23:14 <P4> if you dont want alias add to be public i think i can fix it too
23:15 <P4> oh... you mean that 
23:15 <P4> :)
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's the part where the channel fills up with that stuff :)
23:15 <P4> ok im sorry
23:17 <P4> what was the alias to lookup the configureation of armgetron?
23:17 <P4> and how was the CVS changes news added?
23:18 <P4> and the map repository changes :D
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> the svn notifiers use a custom plugin we wrote
23:18  * Lucifer_arma thinks
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> it's in svn somewhere :)
23:18 <P4> :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> not terribly well-documented either
23:18 <P4> .svn
23:19 <crazy-tronners> P4: Error: "svn" is not a valid command.
23:19 <P4> what's the svn path?
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/support/armabot/trunk/
23:19 <crazy-tronners> <http://ln-s.net/_:d> (at armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net)
23:19 <P4> thanks
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> it's in plugins
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> might need https
23:19 <P4> isn't that ln-s thnig annoying?
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't decided yet
23:19 <P4> ok :)
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> epsy doesn't like it
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> don't know about anyone else
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> to use that plugin, you have to make your bot join #commits
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> because that's where the commit messages come from
23:22 <P4> i'll get full svn first, i may need newest sources 
23:22 <P4> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/ <=- is it your main svn tree?
23:22 <crazy-tronners> <http://ln-s.net/_:k> (at armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net)
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> yes, and it's huge
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> just get the plugins directory for the bot, really :)
23:23 <P4> oh
23:23 <P4> ;)
23:24  * P4 is getting some music rigth now
23:24 <P4> ok i'll go for a little smoke ;)
23:24 <P4> is it 20MB or 200MB?
23:24 <P4> is it about*
23:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
23:29 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron
23:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's huge, man, huge
23:32 <P4> you're right, and thansfer rate drops :|
23:32 <P4> i mean jumps
23:32 <P4> hmm, i'll try to browse it with my client
23:38 <P4> why it takes so long :|

Log from 2007-06-02:
--- Day changed Sat Jun 02 2007
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> er, oops
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> yay, now I get to decode the login message and see if my new system works :)
00:23 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma finally have a reason to install ubuntu
00:23 <DrJoeTron> I*
00:23 <DrJoeTron> going to convert my server to it
00:23 <DrJoeTron> and then add the partition on my pc
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> :)
00:24 <DrJoeTron> i'd go with another build, but I personaly know someone who is an avid user of ubuntu
00:24 <DrJoeTron> and getting help with it over the internet is just retarded
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> if I restricted myself to people I know for help, I'd still be using windows :/
00:25 <DrJoeTron> "hey guys i got this problem"
00:25 <DrJoeTron> "ok do this"
00:25 <DrJoeTron> "ok let me reboot to the other OS"
00:25 <DrJoeTron> "ok that did nothing"
00:25 <DrJoeTron> "ok try this"
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I know.  Different folks, different strokes.
00:26 <DrJoeTron> exactly
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> if google can't help me, chances someone in here can are pretty slim
00:26 <DrJoeTron> hah
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> normally when I ask questions in here, I haven't googled ;)
00:26 <DrJoeTron> but the problem is internet connection, period
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> (or I have, and the answer is 30 pages down and I got tired of looking)
00:26 <DrJoeTron> heh
00:26 <DrJoeTron> but yeah, looks like i'll be running shrunkland
00:27 <DrJoeTron> kinda star struck about it :3
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's cool
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, that means we can't direct complaints about you to swampy anymore
00:27 <DrJoeTron> and i can be even more tyrannical :V
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, it might kill a lot of complaints before they start
00:27 <DrJoeTron> and change my name from the Badmin to the Banmin
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> "Complain to the owner?  But he IS the owner!"
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> so, where should I cache chunks for messages that aren't finished yet?  :/
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> er wait, I just realized something
00:28 <DrJoeTron> trash :d
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> I'm using the wrong padding on the data chunk
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> I should be using a space instead of a "0", because I need to strip() it
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> my decode function can't return a list of chunks because it only takes one chunk at a time
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02:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, so how am I supposed to find out if a socket has been closed?
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02:34 <P4> Lucifer_arma: ok i got loaded CIA plugin and crazy-tronners is also on #commits... what to do now? :)
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> !list CIA
02:34 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'CIA' is not a valid plugin.
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> .list CIA
02:34 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> .help CIA
02:34 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: Error: There is no command "cia".
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> .help CIA addhandler
02:34 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: (cia addhandler <channel> <shortname> <searchstring> <actiontype> <action>) -- Adds a new handler for commit messages. Actiontype specifies what type of action to do. Currently only "echo" and "cmd" are supported.
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> .addhandler #armagetron commitmsg armagetronad echo $msg
02:35 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully that's it
02:35 <P4> :D
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> would be good to flush the config
02:35 <P4> what you mean?
02:35 <P4> delete them?
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> no, flush it to disk
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
02:36 <P4> hehe OK :}
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> .addhandler #armagetron commitmsg armagetronad: echo $msg
02:37 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> .listhandlers
02:37 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: commitmsg
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> .describe commitmsg
02:37 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: commitmsg: Matches on 'armagetronad', Performs action of type: 'echo', On channel: #armagetron, Details: $msg
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> lemme check the code and see what it's not doing
02:37 <P4> ill upload a map to test
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, it's not in #commits
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> make it join commints
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> .join #commits
02:38 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
02:38 <P4> i was pretty sure he was
02:38 <P4> done again
02:38 <crazy-tronners> $msg
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> it works, sort of
02:39 <P4> $msg should be $+ maybe
02:39 <P4> $* i mean
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02:40 <Lucifer_arma> aha
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> .addhandler #armagetron commitmsg armagetronad: echo $message
02:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> .describe commitmsg
02:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: commitmsg: Matches on 'armagetronad', Performs action of type: 'echo', On channel: #armagetron, Details: $msg
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> .list CIA
02:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> .removehandler commitmsg
02:40 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> .addhandler #armagetron commitmsg armagetronad: echo $message
02:41 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> .describe commitmsg
02:41 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: commitmsg: Matches on 'armagetronad:', Performs action of type: 'echo', On channel: #armagetron, Details: $message
02:41 <crazy-tronners> armagetronad: davidfancella * r7284 /tools/acme/trunk/acme: Spurious commit to test a bot
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> there we go
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> now flush the config :)
02:41 <P4> thanks :}
02:41 <P4> .flush
02:41 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
02:41 <P4> how to add you as user? :P
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> if it's sitting on another channel, you can add that to it too, if you'd like
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> I'd have to register
02:41 <P4> i'veseen it somewhere... but cant remember where
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'm personally hoping armabot comes back, so I'm not in a hurry to register for a replacement
02:42 <P4> alright :D
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: ping
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: pong
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> was the splash example I linked you to okay?
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, honestly?
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> needs more fire and ice, like lots of fire and ice
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> and a black background :)
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> to me, and near as I can tell to everyone, the word eugenics basically means the controlled breeding of a super-race
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> and the implied genocide of non-super-races
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> so something in that theme.  :)
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> hmm, so I guess not literally fire and ice?
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it depends on how artistic you're feeling :)
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> but literal fire and ice is better than absence of figurative fire and ice
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, I got my new network code in, but it only logs in now
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> need to get chat working again, heh
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> im sure if you posted it on the forums, we'd get a lot better splash screens then what I could make
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03:09 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: civ?
03:12 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_, get one or two more people and ya, ok
03:12 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: you can do that while I play glob
03:13 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma, LuciEatsPeople Lucifer_arma GodTodd want to play a game of freeciv?
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> no
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm boycotting freeciv
03:14 <GodTodd> same reason i try not to read when working on a novel? ;)
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> pong
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> same reason, yes
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, did I have tea cooking?
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> ok, anybody want to test eugenics chat with me?
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: ping
03:49  * Lucifer_arma listens to the wind
03:51 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> help test something?
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a go grab a smoke
03:53 <GodTodd> ki
03:54 <GodTodd> ko even
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> if anybody wants to help test eugenics chat
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> do svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> you need pyqt4, and that should be it
03:54 <GodTodd> i have that
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> you can test it locally by starting eugenics-server and then eugenics and connecting to it
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need an svn update :)
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> the server doesn't even need pyqt4 so far ;)
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> or anything else crazy
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> I want to grab a smoke real quick, hopefully mom will wander in and update his checkout
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> pong
03:56 <GodTodd> Your_mom_arma: svn update
03:57 <GodTodd> just ./eugenics-server....right?
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04:00 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's no output from it yet
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> until you connect a client
04:00 <Your_mom_arma> umm
04:00 <Your_mom_arma> I checked out the trunk
04:01 <GodTodd> i did that...didn't even let me send a message
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, now you need to update mom
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how to do that, I think you right-click in there and look for something that says "update"
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did you connect?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> you have to do Game->Network Game in the client
04:01 <GodTodd> connect...how?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> put in a username and a host
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> localhost is the right host if you're doing it locally
04:02 <GodTodd> nothing
04:02 <Your_mom_arma> ok, I clicked update, looked successful 
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> is there output on the server?
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, try connecting to www.davefancella.com
04:02 <GodTodd> nothing on server, no
04:03 <Your_mom_arma> hmm, what should I click to get it to run?
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you sure you clicked "ok"?
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: the file that says "eugenics"
04:03 <GodTodd> yes...i did
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> if it doesn't run like it is, you probably need to rename it to "eugenics.py"
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: anything in the window you started the client in?
04:03 <GodTodd> and i'm on www.davefancella.com now
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh, really?  I got connection refused
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> umm
04:04 <GodTodd> bunch of stuff
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't say it logged you in
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> shut down the client and try again :)
04:04 <GodTodd> i didn't get any negative message :P
04:05 <GodTodd> now?
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
04:05 <GodTodd> yeah?
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> nothing for you
04:05 <GodTodd> still nothing
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> did you get connection refused in the terminal for the client?
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> it'll be at the bottom of a stacktrace
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> if it's there
04:06 <Your_mom_arma> "can't assign requested adress" after attempting to connect
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's weird
04:06  * Lucifer_arma wonders what www.davefancella.com resolves to
04:06 <GodTodd> .dns www.davefancella.com
04:07 <crazy-tronners> GodTodd: 68.93.135.129
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> that looks right
04:07 <GodTodd> hahaha: spam alert
04:07 <GodTodd> Original exception was:
04:08 <GodTodd> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:08 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/mainqt.py", line 156, in chatPressed
04:08 <GodTodd>     self.__proxy.SendChat(theString)
04:08 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/qt_proxy.py", line 45, in SendChat
04:08 <GodTodd>     self.__main.SendChat(str(theMessage) )
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> connection refused
04:08 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenics/client/main.py", line 45, in SendChat
04:08 <GodTodd>     self.__networkMan.AddMessage(chat.nChatMessage(user=self.connectionInfo['username'], message=theMessage) )
04:08 <GodTodd> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'AddMessage'
04:08 <GodTodd> hello??????????????????????????????
04:08 <GodTodd> Error in sys.excepthook:
04:08 <GodTodd> that's a *small* section of the terminal output
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: that's because you're not connected, more than likely
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only situation where __networkMan would be a NoneType
04:09 <GodTodd> you want i should pastebin all of it? :P
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's probably enough for now
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> I think the server's not opening up for all connections
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> where's zman when you need hiim?
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04:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, try connecting now
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
04:23 <GodTodd> nothing?
04:25 <GodTodd> Original exception was:
04:25 <GodTodd> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:25 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/mainqt.py", line 156, in chatPressed
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> er
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> mom connected
04:25 <GodTodd>     self.__proxy.SendChat(theString)
04:25 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/qt_proxy.py", line 45, in SendChat
04:25 <GodTodd>     self.__main.SendChat(str(theMessage) )
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> you didn't connect again
04:25 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenics/client/main.py", line 45, in SendChat
04:25 <Your_mom_arma> try connecting to 68.93.135.129
04:25 <GodTodd>     self.__networkMan.AddMessage(chat.nChatMessage(user=self.connectionInfo['username'], message=theMessage) )
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> there needs to be a lot more error checking, apparently
04:25 <GodTodd> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'AddMessage'
04:25 <GodTodd> hello??????????????????????????????
04:25 <GodTodd> Error in sys.excepthook:
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> that traceback means you didn't connect
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> does the port number in the dialog say 3400?
04:26 <GodTodd> oops..that was a mis-past
04:26 <GodTodd> mis-paste
04:26 <GodTodd> nope
04:26 <GodTodd> k
04:26 <GodTodd> yeah
04:26 <GodTodd> ok...it disappeared from the screen now
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> ok, test is done
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> thanks guys
04:38 <GodTodd> heh...i was trying with a bigger term window :P
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'll reconnect
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: open libeugenicsgui/qt_proxy.py
04:48 <GodTodd> kate fine?
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> anything
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> what's on line 40?
04:49 <GodTodd> sec
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> then do in the source checkout "svn info"
04:50 <GodTodd> line 40:             self.emit( QtCore.SIGNAL("chat"), theEvent)
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> can you insert right there "print type(theEvent)" ?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> then reconnect and see what it says?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> also, the svn info real quick, I want to make sure you've got the same revision I've got
04:51 <GodTodd> todd@todd-laptop:~/eugenics$ svn info
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> you should, but it's worth doublechecking
04:51 <GodTodd> Path: .
04:51 <GodTodd> URL: https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
04:51 <GodTodd> Repository Root: https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics
04:52 <GodTodd> Repository UUID: 67148f67-bc31-0410-96f9-d3a1bca767fb
04:52 <GodTodd> Revision: 16
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> revision 16?
04:52 <GodTodd> Node Kind: directory
04:52 <GodTodd> Schedule: normal
04:52 <GodTodd> Last Changed Author: dave
04:52 <GodTodd> Last Changed Rev: 16
04:52 <GodTodd> Last Changed Date: 2007-06-01 20:50:40 -0500 (Fri, 01 Jun 2007)
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> odd, mine says revision 14
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> ok, update again
04:53 <GodTodd> yeah...mine said 16 when i did the checkout
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> then reconnect, and make sure you have revision 17
04:53 <GodTodd> fresh co even :P
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> there's no way yours should be lower than mine, no freaking way!
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> higher, I mean
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm like bleeding edge guy
04:54 <GodTodd> yeah it says 17 now
04:54  * GodTodd is god...i can do anything :P
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> ok, reconnect and see what it does
04:55 <GodTodd> starting up
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> Traceback (most recent call last):
04:55 <Lucifer_arma>   File "/home/share/Projects/eugenics/libeugenics/network/connection_manager.py", line 122, in get_waiting
04:55 <Lucifer_arma>     raise Exception, "This thing is broke!"
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> Exception: This thing is broke!
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> that was you logging out
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I need to remove that exception output
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
04:57 <GodTodd> yes?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> can you see anything?
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> i saw you say yoohoo, but nothing else
04:57 <GodTodd> if i keep switching to the terminal yeah...i see what i saw before
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> tracebacks and all?
04:58 <GodTodd> looks the same
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05:01 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: http://pastebin.ca/530354
05:01 <GodTodd> that's the entire last session
05:02 <GodTodd> all half screen of it ;)
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna freak out my wife
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> aw man, she was in the bathroom
05:03 <GodTodd> freaky! ;)
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> I was hoping she was sitting in front of the other computer, because it made a monstrous noise when I logged out of the remote session
05:04 <GodTodd> heh
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> ok, shut it down again
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> now I need to take care of that partial chunk thing and figure out why it doesn't work in kubuntu
05:05 <GodTodd> did yours mess up too?
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:06 <GodTodd> k..so it's not my settings
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> no, definitely a problem
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07:27 <luke-jr_> wow
07:27 <luke-jr_> glob2 has some messed up game logic
07:27 <luke-jr_> the presense of a single square of grain makes the difference between losing units fast and gaining fast
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07:29 <luke-jr_> wb
07:30 <Your_mom_arma> how do I roll back a page on the wiki? it only seems to go back to the previous version, and no further 
07:43 <Your_mom_arma> I'm going to protect the main page. Feel free to unprotect it, don't see a reason why anyone would need to edit and change it now anyway.
07:44 <MrBougo> Your_mom_arma: just go in the history, display an older version, hit edit then submit or stuff
07:45 <Your_mom_arma> already did, thanks though
07:45 <MrBougo> oh :p
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08:35 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
08:36 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pong
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> interested in testing eugenics a bit?
08:36 <GodTodd> for a bit
08:36 <GodTodd> sure
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait, I haven't fixed the problem in kubuntu
08:36 <GodTodd> heh
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> interested in a few minutes in doing this?  ;)
08:36 <GodTodd> sure
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> I think I got the partial read thing fixed, which is what I want to test, but I guess I have to fix it in ubuntu for you to help test
08:37  * Lucifer_arma goes to turn off his speakers so he doesn't wake up his wife doing this
08:37 <GodTodd> heh
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08:40 <Lucifer_bed> I love x.org
08:43 <Lucifer_bed> that's weird
08:43 <Lucifer_bed> my class is being converted to a float through the signal/slot mechanism
08:47  * MrBougo is away: 
08:47  * MrBougo is away: 
08:55  * GodTodd is not away:
08:55  * GodTodd is not away:
08:58 <MrBougo> pfff
08:58 <MrBougo> i've pressed some random keys
08:58  * MrBougo is away: 
08:58 <MrBougo> shit!
08:58  * GodTodd is not away:
08:59 <MrBougo> rofl
08:59 <MrBougo> that guy compressing an mp3
08:59 <MrBougo> the archive is bigger than the file
08:59 <GodTodd> not very good compression then
09:01 <MrBougo> heh
09:01 <MrBougo> mp3 is already compressed
09:01 <MrBougo> it's like trying to zip a jpeg
09:02 <MrBougo> it's stoopid
09:02 <MrBougo> oh i know why he did that... there are some other files in the archive
09:04 <GodTodd> actually...if you use a lower bitrate they compress nicely
09:06 <Lucifer_bed> damn, I'm stumped
09:06 <Lucifer_bed> according to the docs, it should work
09:07 <Lucifer_bed> according to the mailing list, it should work
09:07 <Lucifer_bed> according to the kde tutorial on using pyqt4, it should work
09:08 <Lucifer_bed> SO WHY DOESN'T IT WORK?!?!?
09:08 <MrBougo> humm
09:08 <MrBougo> are you in bed?
09:08 <Lucifer_bed> no
09:08 <GodTodd> cuz it's broke?
09:08 <Lucifer_bed> I'm using the computer in the bedroom
09:08 <MrBougo> oh ok
09:08 <Lucifer_bed> well, I'm sitting in my living room and using it
09:08 <MrBougo> see? you've just forgotten about your problems
09:09 <Lucifer_bed> have not
09:09 <MrBougo> that's the solution, talking about something else
09:09 <MrBougo> oh shit
09:09  * GodTodd notes you can tell where in the house the computer Lucifer_bed is using is by his name....much like my own setup :)
09:09 <MrBougo> then try to fix it
09:09 <Lucifer_bed> lemme see if I do anything similar with acme, which is known to work in ubuntu
09:09 <MrBougo> connect to other chans maybe :)
09:10 <Lucifer_bed> hmmm, the places I do it in acme use qt objects
09:11 <Lucifer_bed> maybe if I inherit QObject, it'll fix it
09:11 <MrBougo> if i use a NAT connection to my VM, do i have to install a firewall on my guest? or is it safe without any...
09:11 <MrBougo> oops wrong chan
09:12 <MrBougo> my host has a fw of course
09:13 <GodTodd> i'ma take a dump
09:14 <MrBougo> damn wrong chan agaoin
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I"ll post to the pyqt list and ask about it
09:18 <MrBougo> oh, Lucifer_arma is back to the living room
09:18 <MrBougo> or whatever
09:18 <MrBougo> the arma room?
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> never left the living room, man
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> x.org rules
09:18 <MrBougo> oh right
09:18 <MrBougo> the living room computer
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> xdcmp or whatever it's called
09:18 <MrBougo> !last --with x.org
09:18 <BotSub> MrBougo: [02:20:40] <Lucifer_arma> x.org rules
09:18 <MrBougo> !last --with x.org --nolimit
09:18 <BotSub> MrBougo: [02:21:02] <MrBougo> !last --with x.org, [02:20:40] <Lucifer_arma> x.org rules, and [01:42:44] <Lucifer_bed> I love x.org
09:18 <MrBougo> we know you like x.org
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> well I give up
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: want to test with the broken stuff like it was?
09:24  * Lucifer_arma goes to commit real quick
09:25 <Lucifer_bed> the thing I'm wanting to test is independent of this
09:25 <GodTodd> k
09:25 <GodTodd> got it committed yet?
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09:26 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:26 <GodTodd> rev 19 right?
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:27 <GodTodd> k starting up
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'd be farther along if my wife and I hadn't sat outside bullshitting for 3 hours
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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09:37 <MrBougo> oh, you guys are back
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09:38 <Lucifer_arma_> yay, I'm back
09:38 <Lucifer_arma_> um
09:38 <Lucifer_arma_> .ping
09:38 <crazy-tronners> pong
09:38 <Lucifer_arma_> !ping
09:38 <BotSub> pong
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .alias add ping "echo !pong"
09:39 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> !alias add pong "echo ping"
09:39 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .ping
09:39 <crazy-tronners> pong
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .alias add ping "echo \!pong"
09:39 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .ping
09:39 <crazy-tronners> pong
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> awww
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .alias remove ping
09:39 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .alias add ping "echo \!pong"
09:39 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:39 <Lucifer_arma_> .ping
09:39 <crazy-tronners> pong
09:40 <Lucifer_arma_> ok, I give up
09:40 <Lucifer_arma_> I'm also too sleepy to migrate the partial chunk stuff to the server right now
09:41  * GodTodd is too...on nyquil...some inconsiderate clod in my family decided we should have a nice round of colds :/
09:41 <Lucifer_arma_> why did you decide that?
09:41 <GodTodd> i didn't :P
09:41 <Lucifer_arma_> I suppose I should write up what I just did on the wiki
09:42 <Lucifer_arma_> we're theoretically at a point where someone can join in coding without stepping on my toes and vice versa
09:42 <GodTodd> well...the rain tonight assured that tomorrow is a fully calculus day for me heh
09:42 <Lucifer_arma_> it's just the only thing really that can be coded besides more network work is chat
09:42  * GodTodd would still need annoying handholding...
09:42 <Lucifer_arma_> depends on where you're coding, really, I suppose.  :)
09:43 <Lucifer_arma_> you should be able to work pretty independently in the game/world simulation, except that there's no groundwork for that
09:43  * GodTodd usually codes on his butt.
09:43 <GodTodd> :P
09:44 <Lucifer_arma_> still, things like enforcing a limit on chat messages, finishing the multiple chunk support, chat backlog (so you can use up-arrow to repeat yourself), name highlighting, etc are all open now
09:44 <Lucifer_arma_> adding new chat/player-related messages.  Next on my list of messages to create is the player sync message, which will sync the list of players logged in and their current status
09:45 <GodTodd> how about a "save these fields" thing on the network connect screen? :)
09:45 <Lucifer_arma_> yep :)
09:45 <Lucifer_arma_> there's no groundwork for it, but that's no big deal anyway
09:45  * GodTodd is lazy and likes to type as little as possible.
09:45 <GodTodd> heh
09:45  * Lucifer_arma_ too
09:45 <Lucifer_arma_> I keep meaning to make localhost the default server
09:45 <Lucifer_arma_> and use a system call to get the current user name for hte default player name
09:48 <MrBougo> rofl luci
09:48 <MrBougo> "ok, i give up
09:48 <MrBougo> "
09:48 <MrBougo> .alias add poing "echo \!piong"
09:48 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:49 <Lucifer_arma_> !alias add pong "echo .ping"
09:49 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma_: The operation succeeded.
09:49 <MrBougo> !alias add piong "echo .poing"
09:49 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:49 <Lucifer_arma_> !pong
09:49 <BotSub> .ping
09:49 <crazy-tronners> pong
09:49 <MrBougo> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> \!piong
09:49 <MrBougo> oops
09:49 <MrBougo> .alias add poing "echo !piong"
09:49 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:49 <MrBougo> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <Lucifer_arma_> oh shit
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <MrBougo> .alias remove poing "echo !piong"
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: (alias remove <name>) -- Removes the given alias, if unlocked.
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> !piong
09:49 <MrBougo> .alias remove poing
09:49 <BotSub> .poing
09:49 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "poing" is not a valid command.
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <MrBougo> easy to stop
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <GodTodd> see what you started, Lucifer_arma?
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
09:49 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
09:49 <GodTodd> :P
09:49 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
09:49 <MrBougo> rofl
09:49 <MrBougo> roflroflroflmao
09:50 <Lucifer_arma_> I wasn't trying to get them stuck in an infinite loop
09:50 <MrBougo> oh, werent you?
09:50 <Lucifer_arma_> I just wanted one command to ping both of them
09:50 <MrBougo> oh ok
09:50 <Lucifer_arma_> it was that idiot belgian that went all crazy
09:50 <MrBougo> :DDD
09:50 <GodTodd> well...now they're ignoring each other
09:50 <GodTodd> heh
09:50 <MrBougo> rofl
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09:50 <MrBougo> !alias remove piong
09:50 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
09:50 <MrBougo> funny thing
09:50 <GodTodd> !list alias
09:50 <BotSub> GodTodd: add, c, calc, delire, lock, luke, m, night, nodelire, pong, q, remove, and unlock
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> .list alias
09:51 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: ?, add, armaconfig, c, cats, cfg, ct, ctwf, dogs, lastseen, lock, opme, ping, players, rain, remove, serverdetails, st, sty, tea, tyskie, and unlock
09:51 <MrBougo> just say "!echo .zkeazh" to make them go crazy
09:51 <GodTodd> !alias add ping echo .ping 
09:51 <BotSub> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> !ping
09:51 <BotSub> pong
09:51 <MrBougo> !alias ping
09:51 <BotSub> .ping
09:51 <MrBougo> just use poing
09:51 <GodTodd> that should get us a "ping, ping, pong"
09:51 <MrBougo> !alias remove ping
09:51 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
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09:51 <Lucifer_arma> !alias add ping echo .ping
09:51 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> !ping
09:52 <BotSub> pong
09:52 <MrBougo> !alias ping
09:52 <BotSub> .ping
09:52 <MrBougo> see?
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I do
09:52 <MrBougo> use poing :D
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> !list ping
09:52 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: Error: 'ping' is not a valid plugin.
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> !help ping
09:52 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive.
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, ping isn't an alias
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> #list
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> !list
09:52 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Geekquote, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Weather
09:52 <GodTodd> !list services
09:52 <BotSub> GodTodd: ghost, identify, invite, nicks, op, password, unban, and voice
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> !list Channel
09:53 <GodTodd> !list owner
09:53 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
09:53 <BotSub> GodTodd: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> haha, which one is it in?
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> !list Alias
09:53 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: add, c, calc, delire, lock, luke, m, night, nodelire, ping, pong, q, remove, and unlock
09:53 <MrBougo> !list
09:53 <BotSub> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Geekquote, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Weather
09:53 <GodTodd> !list config
09:53 <BotSub> GodTodd: channel, config, default, export, help, list, reload, and search
09:53 <MrBougo> !list user
09:53 <BotSub> MrBougo: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> !list User
09:53 <BotSub> Lucifer_arma: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
09:53 <GodTodd> !list misc
09:53 <BotSub> GodTodd: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version
09:53 <GodTodd> :D
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> aha
09:53 <MrBougo> :DDDD
09:53 <GodTodd> !list ping
09:53 <BotSub> GodTodd: Error: 'ping' is not a valid plugin.
09:53 <GodTodd> bah
09:53 <MrBougo> what else
09:54 <MrBougo> !help source
09:54 <BotSub> MrBougo: (source takes no arguments) -- Returns a URL saying where to get Supybot.
09:54 <MrBougo> oooh crazy!
09:54 <MrBougo> !source
09:54 <BotSub> MrBougo: My source is at http://supybot.com/
09:54 <MrBougo> :D
09:54 <GodTodd> !tell
09:54 <BotSub> GodTodd: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
09:54 <MrBougo> !echo .azazazzaa
09:54 <BotSub> .azazazzaa
09:54 <MrBougo> they havent stopped ignoring eachother
09:55 <GodTodd> has it been 10 minutes?
09:55 <GodTodd> still 4 to go
09:55 <GodTodd> .list alias
09:55 <crazy-tronners> GodTodd: ?, add, armaconfig, c, cats, cfg, ct, ctwf, dogs, lastseen, lock, opme, ping, players, rain, remove, serverdetails, st, sty, tea, tyskie, and unlock
09:55 <MrBougo> oh 10 minutes
09:56 <MrBougo> thought it was 5
09:56 <GodTodd> nope
09:56 <GodTodd> 5 commands...10 minuts
09:56 <GodTodd> minutes*
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> next is rev 20 :)
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> which you shouldn't bother with because I removed all the debug output that makes it possible for you to use the chat
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> but really, if we can't get past this problem, we're screwed on feisty
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> because there are going to be many many more events that need to be passed from the network to the gui
10:04 <GodTodd> yep
10:08 <MrBougo> 10 minutes are over :)
10:08 <MrBougo> what are we gonna do now :p
10:11 <MrBougo> !echo .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <BotSub> .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <crazy-tronners> !echo .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <BotSub> .echo !echo .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <crazy-tronners> !echo .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <BotSub> .echo !echo .echo
10:11 <crazy-tronners> !echo .echo
10:11 <BotSub> .echo
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "(echo" is not a valid command.
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <MrBougo> oh shit
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
10:11 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
10:11 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
10:11 <MrBougo> didnt see that coming...
10:11 <MrBougo> ok, you cant make them send commands that "answer" with $who
10:35 <DrJoeTron> oh god
10:35 <DrJoeTron> crazy-tronners bot is back
10:35 <crazy-tronners> DrJoeTron: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.
10:35 <DrJoeTron> KILL IT
10:35 <DrJoeTron> KILL IT
10:35 <DrJoeTron> http://lemonparty.org
10:35 <DrJoeTron> LOG IT crazy-tronners 
10:35 <DrJoeTron> or did you already get that one
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11:31 <MrBougo> hello MaZuffeR 
11:31 <MrBougo> bye MaZuffeR
11:31 <digitx> hi MrBougo 
11:32 <MrBougo> BotSub: alias add (echo echo yummy
11:32 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
11:32 <MrBougo> !acho .echo !echo .echo
11:32 <BotSub> MrBougo: Error: "acho" is not a valid command.
11:32 <MrBougo> !echo .echo !echo .echo
11:32 <BotSub> .echo !echo .echo
11:32 <crazy-tronners> !echo .echo
11:32 <BotSub> .echo
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "(echo" is not a valid command.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <MrBougo> crap it didnt work
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command.
11:32 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
11:32 <crazy-tronners> BotSub: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
11:32 <MrBougo> oh right, the bold stuff
11:33 <MrBougo> !(echo
11:33 <BotSub> MrBougo: Error: "(echo" is not a valid command.
11:33 <MrBougo> ! (echo
11:33 <BotSub> MrBougo: Error: "(echo" is not a valid command.
11:33 <MrBougo> !(echo
11:33 <BotSub> yummy
11:33 <MrBougo> :(
11:33 <MrBougo> !alias remove (echo
11:33 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
11:33 <MrBougo> bye
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12:06 <P4> DrJoeTron: use .ln .tiny or .log ;)
12:07 <P4> .tea
12:07 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
12:16 <DrJoeTron> P4 that bot is a jerk
12:17 <P4> why do you said so? should i disable .echo?
12:21 <DrJoeTron> its the whole "hai i take all urls taken from da chat logs"
12:21 <DrJoeTron> its just fucking creepy
12:21 <DrJoeTron> i figured it'd get sick of the porn sites GodTodd and I sent it
12:21 <DrJoeTron> but no
12:21 <DrJoeTron> it hungered
12:21 <P4> you mean you don't want the bot to log channels?
12:22 <DrJoeTron> yup
12:22 <P4> ok i'll see what can i do
12:23 <P4> now it should be disable
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12:24 <DrJoeTron> thanks :V
12:24 <vinavil> morning
12:25 <digitx> http://image2.myvip.com/users/0053/00537664/2114370/e9a21d96ba6b8818ed843a5c1cf2b8fb14271893.jpg
12:25 <digitx> look :)
12:25 <digitx> XD
12:25 <crazy-tronners> <http://ln-s.net/_DQ> (at image2.myvip.com)
12:26 <P4> aw shit
12:26 <P4> i was pretty sure i disabled it, ok cone again...
12:26 <digitx> http://image2.myvip.com/users/0053/00537664/2114370/f49b5249ad381fe75954569901a70b8914273674.jpg
12:26 <crazy-tronners> <http://ln-s.net/_DR> (at image2.myvip.com)
12:27 <P4> http://image2.myvip.com/users/0053/00537664/2114370/f49b5249ad381fe75954569901a70b8914273674.jpg
12:27 <P4> now it's done and flushed... i forgot to flush configs before last change
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12:28 <vinavil> why does freebsd relese is at 0.2.7.0?
12:28 <P4> most of linux distros packafges includein arma in version 0.2.7 :|
12:28 <vinavil> ?
12:30 <P4> i mean it's hard to find later version of arma than 0.2.7 in linux/unix package repositories, pity,
12:31 <vinavil> you mean debian/ubuntu?
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12:35 <P4> yes, in debian especially
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12:36 <P4> .tea
12:36 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
12:36 <DrJoeTron> i got a question
12:36 <DrJoeTron> for you ubuntu jerks
12:37 <P4> ubuntu is debian based... is it debian question or ubuntu one? ^^
12:37 <DrJoeTron> fuck if i know
12:37 <DrJoeTron> probably ubuntu
12:37 <DrJoeTron> cause thats what I'm going to try and use
12:37 <P4> go on 
12:37 <DrJoeTron> trying to
12:38 <DrJoeTron> do they make remote desktop client between desktop edition and server edition?
12:38 <P4> it's possible to connecto 2 computers with RDP independently of OS
12:38 <P4> or i don't understand your question :P
12:39 <DrJoeTron> you probably dont understand it
12:39 <P4> :)
12:39 <DrJoeTron> I'm reformatting my pc and server
12:39 <DrJoeTron> or maybe i dont understand your answer
12:39 <P4> you ment did they build-in RDP client in their 2 versions of OS?
12:39 <DrJoeTron> I'm an avid user of pc's but only with windows
12:39 <DrJoeTron> so not very at all
12:39 <P4> i use windows too
12:40 <DrJoeTron> so you're going to bare with me because you're going to fling terminology i've never heard of
12:40 <P4> im not native english speaker, i'll try to use dicts
12:40 <DrJoeTron> since I have to practically forget everything i knew about PC's for the time being
12:41 <DrJoeTron> I'm reformatting my machine and going to dual boot with xp pro and ubuntu
12:41 <DrJoeTron> i didnt have a reason to use ubuntu, untill now
12:41 <DrJoeTron> I'm going to reformat my server
12:41 <DrJoeTron> which is running windows xp
12:41 <DrJoeTron> and I'd like to make it run ubuntu server edition
12:42 <DrJoeTron> and My pc will be running their desktop edition
12:42 <DrJoeTron> and since I do not own a kvm
12:42 <P4> what services do you serve on your server? :P
12:42 <DrJoeTron> armagetron servers :V
12:42 <DrJoeTron> potentially other shit
12:42 <P4> both OSes can easly handle armagetron server
12:43 <DrJoeTron> how about armagetron server(s)
12:44 <P4> it depends on PC abilities like RAM or CPU more than on software installed (like OS)
12:44 <DrJoeTron> Intel pentium 4 1.8ghz with 512MB Ram ddr 333mhz
12:44 <DrJoeTron> 15 GB hard drive
12:45 <P4> i really dont know... more users = more system resources need... 
12:45 <DrJoeTron> even with the server one?
12:45 <DrJoeTron> i mean XP runs 2 armaservers with no problem
12:45 <DrJoeTron> should i just keep doing what I'm doing?
12:46 <P4> i think you can run even more than 2 severs on ubuntu ;)
12:46 <DrJoeTron> thats what i was asking :/
12:46 <DrJoeTron> and i figured thats what i should be doing
12:46 <P4> :)
12:46 <DrJoeTron> which is why I'm doing ubuntu for it
12:46 <DrJoeTron> BUT
12:46 <DrJoeTron> as i mentioned earlier i dont have a kvm
12:47 <P4> .google kvm
12:47 <crazy-tronners> P4: Error: "google" is not a valid command.
12:47 <P4> :|
12:47 <DrJoeTron> Keyboard Video Mouse adapter
12:47 <P4> hmm
12:47 <P4> is it needed to run X server?
12:47 <vinavil> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/
12:47 <DrJoeTron> it connects all of your pc's to one keyboard, monitor, and mouse
12:47 <P4> oh
12:47 <vinavil> we just need to be patient :)
12:47 <DrJoeTron> SO
12:47 <DrJoeTron> I use VNC
12:48 <DrJoeTron> which is a remote desktop for windows 
12:48 <P4> yes i know vcn
12:48 <DrJoeTron> well now
12:48 <DrJoeTron> do they make a desktop client to server client remote desktop app with ubuntu?
12:49 <P4> it's kvm issue, right?
12:49 <P4> oh
12:49 <DrJoeTron> yeah as in, i dont want to go buy one
12:49 <P4> i never used ubuntu but it's pretty possible that ubuntu includes some RDP client/server 
12:50 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
12:51 <P4> .tea
12:51 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
12:55 <P4> DrJoeTron: this is KVM? -=> http://www.nokaut.pl/img/p/cf/dd/cfddeaa1344e02f274c855b72afed497500x500.jpg
12:55 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
12:55 <P4> i was pretty sure KVM is some software :P
12:55 <DrJoeTron> haha nah
12:55 <P4> like K virtual machine ;P
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13:04 <P4> .slap test
13:04  * crazy-tronners slaps test around with the mechanic laptop
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15:05 <P4> .t en fr translating is back
15:05 <crazy-tronners> P4: la traduction est de retour
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15:45 <madmax|pt> hi
15:52 <P4> hi madmax|pt
16:06 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: KVM is software
16:07 <luke-jr_> the whole hardware KVM thing is silly
16:20 <MrBougo> luke-jr_: you play tremulous?
16:20 <luke-jr_> no
16:20 <MrBougo> uh
16:20 <MrBougo> why were you on the trem channel then? :p
16:20 <luke-jr_> shrug
16:21 <luke-jr_> why is glob2 so addicting?
16:21 <MrBougo> because it looks terrible?
16:21 <MrBougo> i know why
16:21 <MrBougo> you cant stop watching those little jelly things moving
16:22 <MrBougo> i'm bored
16:22 <luke-jr_> wanna play glob2?
16:22 <MrBougo> i could do some !echo .echo
16:22 <MrBougo> but it'd annoy luke
16:22 <MrBougo> except if he tries it by himself
16:22 <MrBougo> he couldnt blame me
16:23 <MrBougo> no glob2 sorry
16:23 <MrBougo> saying !echo .echo is funnier
16:25 <MrBougo> luke-jr_?
16:26 <luke-jr_> ...
16:26 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_, ...
16:26 <MrBougo> rofl
16:28 <MrBougo> bah, ima play tron
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16:53 <MrBougo> ..
16:53 <crazy-tronners> I don't know.
16:53 <MrBougo> .alias list
16:53 <crazy-tronners> No idea!
16:53 <MrBougo> whatever
16:53 <MrBougo> .list alias
16:53 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: .., ?, add, armaconfig, c, cats, cfg, ct, ctwf, dogs, lastseen, lock, opme, players, rain, remove, serverdetails, st, sty, t, tea, tyskie, and unlock
16:54 <MrBougo> .opme
16:54 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:54 <MrBougo> aw
16:54 <MrBougo> .rain
16:54 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: (rainbow <text>) -- Returns <text> colorized like a rainbow.
16:54 <MrBougo> .rain yeee rainbow
16:54 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: yeee rainbow
16:54 <MrBougo> .tyskie
16:54 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: TYSKIE:WARZONE: No online players.
16:54 <MrBougo> .whatever
16:54 <crazy-tronners> Dunno, MrBougo.
16:54 <MrBougo> .whatever
16:54 <crazy-tronners> No idea!
16:55 <MrBougo> oooh nice, that answering stuff is fixed
16:55 <MrBougo> .alias .. echo $who, ...
16:55 <crazy-tronners> BotSub, hi there
16:55 <BotSub> crazy-tronners: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
16:55 <MrBougo> .alias add .. echo $who, ...
16:55 <crazy-tronners> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
16:55 <MrBougo> crazy-tronners: ..
16:55 <MrBougo> btw who's the crazy-tronners bot owner?
16:57 <MrBougo> P4
16:58 <MrBougo> and GodTodd owns BotSub
17:01 <P4> yes MrBougo?
17:01 <P4> oh
17:02 <MrBougo> you own the crazy-tronners bot?
17:02 <P4> yes, please do not abuse ;)
17:02 <MrBougo> you arent funny :(
17:02 <MrBougo> abuse is fun :D
17:02 <P4> most of people here don't like it :)
17:02 <MrBougo> i know :(((
17:02 <P4> join #crazy-tronners ;P, it's a bit less retrictive ;P
17:02 <MrBougo> yee
17:03  * crazy-tronners slaps P4 around with a gigantic girl scout
17:03  * crazy-tronners slaps P4 around with a huge file system
17:03  * crazy-tronners slaps P4 around with a mysterous Wolverine
17:03 <P4> omfg
17:04 <MrBougo> ?
17:04 <P4> .unload Slap
17:04 <crazy-tronners> P4: The operation succeeded.
17:04 <MrBougo> lolz
17:04 <MrBougo> abuse :D
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18:24 <slot4> hi
18:25 <P4> hi slot4
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18:26 <P4> .czesc slot4
18:26 <crazy-tronners> slot4: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
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18:35 <epsy> hi
18:44 <P4> .czesc epsy
18:44 <crazy-tronners> epsy: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
18:44 <P4> ;)
18:45 <epsy> :)
18:45 <epsy> .czesc
18:45 <crazy-tronners> : epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
18:45 <epsy> heh
18:52 <digitx> .czesc
18:52 <crazy-tronners> : digitx wants me to tell you Hello!
18:53 <digitx> .czesc .
18:53 <crazy-tronners> .: digitx wants me to tell you Hello!
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19:23 <P4> .weather katowice, poland
19:23 <crazy-tronners> P4: The current temperature in Katowice, Poland is 62.6°F (7:00 PM CEST on June 02, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 
19:23 <P4> it's gonna rain and i got to go out ;|
19:24 <P4> .math 62 F in C
19:24 <crazy-tronners> No idea.
19:24 <P4> .calc 62 F in C
19:24 <crazy-tronners> P4: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:24 <P4> ok nvm...
19:25 <epsy> shufflespam <3
19:26 <P4> .convert 62 F to C
19:26 <crazy-tronners> P4: 16.6666666667
19:26 <P4> ;P
19:26 <epsy> !delire
19:26 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:26 <epsy> !nodelire
19:26 <BotSub> Ok, i wont kick you
19:27 <P4> .echo [colorize !delire]
19:27 <crazy-tronners> !delire
19:27 <P4> ;P
19:27 <epsy> lol
19:27 <P4> ok cya soon :)
19:27 <epsy> cu
19:27 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away
19:31 <luke-jr_> !delire
19:31 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:31 <luke-jr_> :O
19:32 <epsy> luke-jr_, that's related to my test server :P
19:32 <luke-jr_> ..........
19:32 <crazy-tronners> Bugger all, I dunno!
19:33 <epsy> but it's actually down
19:33 <epsy> as i pretty munch fucked all the script
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19:33 <MrBougo> helly-hello
19:33 <epsy> hay
19:33 <MrBougo> epsy epsy epsy epsy epsy eddiefantastic
19:33 <MrBougo> oops
19:33 <MrBougo> epsy*
19:33 <MrBougo> modding trem looks funny
19:34 <MrBougo> with patches :D
19:34 <MrBougo> diff patches
19:35 <epsy>  you're setting up a server ?
19:35 <epsy> or you're cheating ? :D 
19:36 <epsy> love to the bunnies :D
19:36 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/trem-bunnyyyy
19:36 <MrBougo> epsy, tell me :(
19:36 <MrBougo> you've replaced some meshes?
19:37 <MrBougo> and sprites
19:37 <MrBougo> but where?
19:37 <epsy> it's benmachine's other mod, « zomg »
19:37 <MrBougo> if you did, your cliend would be considered as unpure
19:37 <epsy> it's up on fun-zone
19:37 <MrBougo> oooh
19:37 <MrBougo> ima try it out
19:37 <epsy> ok i come too
19:38 <MrBougo> jeeze the map download is fast
19:38 <MrBougo> theyve put some stuff for http dl?
19:38 <epsy> :o
19:39 <MrBougo> epsy, zomg isnt up
19:39 <MrBougo> can you send it to me by dcc?
19:39 <MrBougo> the pk3's
19:39 <epsy> ETA 15 min
19:39 <epsy> uh ?
19:39 <MrBougo> ???
19:39 <epsy> map dl :P
19:39 <MrBougo> it's normal base mode
19:39 <MrBougo> ew
19:39 <MrBougo> mine was hella fast
19:39 <epsy> you're in or ?
19:40 <MrBougo> yup
19:40 <epsy> errrrr
19:40 <MrBougo> and its base
19:40 <MrBougo> wrong serv maybe?.
19:40 <epsy> what weapon are you laying ?
19:40 <epsy> *playing
19:40 <MrBougo> prifle
19:41 <MrBougo> and i didnt have to download any pk3
19:41 <epsy> pulse has hearts
19:41 <MrBougo> err rifle
19:41 <epsy> rifle has nothing
19:41 <epsy> look at the armoury
19:41 <epsy> is it pink ?
19:41 <MrBougo> no it isnt
19:41 <MrBougo> i told you it was base
19:41 <MrBougo> baebasebase
19:41 <epsy> hmmm
19:42 <MrBougo> send me the vms and data pk3's!
19:42 <MrBougo> please?
19:42 <epsy> wait
19:47 <MrBougo> epsy, are you there? :p
19:47 <epsy> yes
19:47 <epsy> dl'ing the backports
19:47 <MrBougo> beh
19:47 <MrBougo> cand you send me tah pk3's? :2
19:47 <MrBougo> :3*
19:51 <MrBougo> failure :(§
19:51 <MrBougo> send it to some crazy upload server
19:51 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/data-zomg-003.pk3
19:53 <MrBougo> server is crazy enough :p
19:53 <MrBougo> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/vms-zomg-003.pk3 ?
19:56 <epsy> no
19:58 <MrBougo> oh ok
19:59 <Vanhayes> !ping
19:59 <BotSub> pong
20:01 <MrBougo> !pong
20:01 <BotSub> .ping
20:01 <crazy-tronners> pong
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20:09 <epsy> MrBougo, << noob
20:10 <MrBougo> yep
20:10 <MrBougo> you weere on #tremulous right
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20:17 <MrBougo> bye
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21:23 <P4> !who is the best armagetron developer?
21:23 <BotSub> P4: Error: "who" is not a valid command.
21:23 <P4> .who is the best armagetron developer?
21:23 <crazy-tronners> I don't have a clue, P4.
21:23 <epsy> .who are you
21:23 <crazy-tronners> Bugger all, I dunno.
21:23 <epsy> .who are you
21:23 <epsy> .who are you
21:23 <epsy> .who are you
21:23 <crazy-tronners> Bugger all, I dunno.
21:23 <crazy-tronners> I have no idea, epsy.
21:23 <crazy-tronners> Bugger all, I dunno, epsy.
21:23 <epsy> xD
21:23 <P4> epsy: stfu :P
21:23 <P4> i mean, i got to find how can i ignore certain ppl on bot ;)
21:24 <epsy> .aha
21:24 <crazy-tronners> I don't know!
21:24 <epsy> .like ?
21:24 <crazy-tronners> I don't have a clue.
21:25 <epsy> .that means ?
21:25 <crazy-tronners> I have no idea!
21:25 <epsy> .oh nvm then
21:25 <crazy-tronners> I don't have a clue, epsy.
21:25 <epsy> .that's was i was saying, you dumb
21:25 <crazy-tronners> Wish I knew.
21:52 <epsy> oh noes
21:53 <epsy> still that fucking 2 minutes auto-ban fuck
21:53 <epsy> it'ill stay so for 1 hour or 2 now -.-
22:01 <DrJoeTron> there a way to keep the ladders from fucking eachother?
22:01 <DrJoeTron> say you have 2 different servers on the same machine
22:02 <DrJoeTron> they seem to keep fusing together
22:09 <epsy> do you put different var folders ?
22:09 <epsy> i love playing styball with over 500 ping xD
22:10 <epsy> DrJoeTron, 
22:10 <P4> i hate styball at 4 fps :|
22:10 <P4> .tyskie
22:10 <crazy-tronners> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tyskie:warzone” at the moment, sorry.
22:10 <P4> ?!
22:11 <epsy> what i generally do is that i make different var folders for each server, and then i start them with the --vardir option
22:11 <epsy> .help tyskie
22:11 <crazy-tronners> epsy: (tyskie <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverdetails TYSKIE:WARZONE".
22:11 <P4> aw shit, ther server goes down
22:11 <epsy> .armaservers
22:11 <crazy-tronners> No idea, epsy.
22:11 <P4> DrJoeTron: epsy is right
22:11 <epsy> .serverdetails café
22:11 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): *~notsp~*, ach, amarok, CTDimbiman, Dez, Gonzap, K-Yo, Luzifer, Monkey, zainin, ~!|BD|Spencer~, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~SATAN, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ Legit
22:11 <P4> .tea
22:11 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): *~notsp~*, ach, amarok, CTDimbiman, Dez, Gonzap, K-Yo, Luzifer, Monkey, zainin, ~!|BD|Spencer~, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~SATAN, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ Legit
22:12 <epsy> aaa it finally works with the é
22:12 <P4> it's still old version
22:13 <DrJoeTron> epsy ahh good call
22:14 <epsy> do you get it ?
22:14 <P4> .tyskie
22:14 <crazy-tronners> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tyskie:warzone” at the moment, sorry.
22:16  * epsy plays with 650 ping on fort café
22:21 <epsy> and i did just def with 700 ping xD
22:49 <mkzelda> q0in
22:50 <P4> .lastseen q0in
22:50 <crazy-tronners> P4: q0insilencdme has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 1 hours 4 minutes ago.
22:50 <P4> ...
22:50 <crazy-tronners> P4, ...
22:50 <P4> q0in is pretty good at .sty ;)
22:51 <mkzelda> heh q0insilencedme was me
22:51 <P4> ;PP
22:51 <P4> why did he slienced you? :P
22:51 <mkzelda> i was communicating thru player names
22:51 <mkzelda> he didnt actually
22:51 <P4> oh provmsgs :)
22:51 <mkzelda> but he said he would
22:51 <epsy> lol mkzelda 
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22:51 <mkzelda> ya cyber
22:51 <P4> .cyber mkzelda
22:51 <crazy-tronners> Bugger all, I dunno.
22:51 <epsy> but i didn't even silenced you xD
22:52 <DrJoeTron> ,alright
22:52 <DrJoeTron> shrunkland is up with none of the ladder shit
22:52 <epsy> hehe
22:52 <DrJoeTron> can any one see it? i never can
22:52 <epsy> DrJoeTron, i'm downloading, is k ?
22:53 <P4> Shrunkland in 2.8.2: Players (1/6): Dr Joe Tron
22:53 <mkzelda> .lastseen KGRVM
22:53 <mkzelda> er, whats that name...
22:53 <crazy-tronners> mkzelda: timed out
22:54 <mkzelda> plays shrunkland
22:54 <epsy> hmm
22:54 <DrJoeTron> well
22:54 <epsy> .lastseen q0in
22:54 <DrJoeTron> I'm trying to check connections
22:54 <crazy-tronners> epsy: q0insilencdme has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 1 hours 8 minutes ago.
22:54 <DrJoeTron> and see who is going to just whine whine whine about how its not the same :d
22:54 <mkzelda> 5 letters , starts w/ k, has an r and v and m, and one other letter and i dunno the order
22:54 <epsy> .lastseen qOin
22:54 <crazy-tronners> epsy: qOin has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
22:55 <epsy> i'm still on it -.-
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22:56 <KeY_3113> hey
22:56 <epsy> hay KeY_3113 
22:56 <deja_vu> hello
22:56 <epsy> oh t'es fr ?
22:56 <KeY_3113> touep
22:56 <KeY_3113> je suis K-Yo
22:57 <epsy> jamais grillé ça xD
22:57 <epsy> a ok 
22:57 <KeY_3113> je px me mettre en spec sur arma?
22:58 <epsy> oui pkoi ?
22:58 <KeY_3113> ca marche aps
22:59 <epsy> tu associes la touche pause à « Toggle spectator mode »
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22:59 <epsy> yay xfroggy :D
22:59 <xfroggy> someone said an orgy and I'm invited :D
22:59 <mkzelda> haha
22:59 <mkzelda> now if luke will live up to his end
23:00 <KeY_3113> c space des que j'essaie de changer ca me met le pseudo de qqn et su'il vx changer de team
23:00 <KeY_3113> regarde
23:01 <xfroggy> O_o ?
23:01 <KeY_3113> french froggy
23:01 <KeY_3113> t?
23:01 <xfroggy> vi
23:01 <KeY_3113> ^^
23:02 <epsy> KeY_3113, ?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> xfroggy: it's in your mouth, everyone's coming
23:03 <KeY_3113> yes?
23:03 <xfroggy> lol :S
23:03 <epsy> g pas saisi
23:04 <KeY_3113> mon PB de spec mode?
23:04 <epsy> oui
23:04 <KeY_3113> nn ca doit être un bug avec al version beta...
23:04 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, i'm sending an IC inviting everyone here on fort café
23:04 <epsy> j'utilise le trunk ...
23:04 <KeY_3113> trunk?
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> an IC?  what's and IC?
23:05 <xfroggy> I See
23:05 <KeY_3113> d'ailleur c'est quoi le truc que tu dl? freespace?
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> KeY_3113: it means he plays with trees
23:05 <mkzelda> ICUP
23:05 <epsy> Instant chat, sorry
23:05 <KeY_3113> ttrees?
23:05 <KeY_3113> toh...
23:05 <epsy> KeY_3113, oui, freespace
23:05 <KeY_3113> c'est quoi?
23:05 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ??
23:06  * Lucifer_arma just woke up, pay no serious attention
23:06 <KeY_3113> je dois y aller
23:06 <KeY_3113> salut
23:06 <KeY_3113> bonne nuit
23:06 <KeY_3113> @+
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23:07 <epsy> what did you mean with <Lucifer_arma> KeY_3113: it means he plays with trees
23:07 <epsy> ?
23:07 <xfroggy> lol
23:09 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma oh gawd
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> [16:08] <epsy> j'utilise le trunk ...
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> [16:09] <KeY_3113> trunk?
23:09 <DrJoeTron> can you come test out shrunk?
23:10 <epsy> well, you know what the trunk is
23:10 <epsy> oh, you was noobying him xD
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> man epsy, you're really slow today
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> are you on drugs or something?
23:12 <xfroggy> I think I missed out on a lot
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> by doing drugs?
23:13 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma are you downloading anything? if not come to shrunk
23:13 <P4> #t fe en j'utilise le trunk
23:13 <DrJoeTron> i keep getting fat pingers and its freaking me out
23:13 <P4> .t fe en j'utilise le trunk
23:14 <crazy-tronners> P4: Error: "'fe'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
23:14 <P4> .t fr en j'utilise le trunk
23:14 <crazy-tronners> P4: I use the trunk
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: I'm going to the store
23:14 <P4> one says all cmon to IRC #armagetron... what's going on?
23:16 <epsy> that's me
23:16 <xfroggy> P4, we suppose to have an orgy, but I was fooled also :(
23:16 <xfroggy> they teaching french lessons!
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23:22 <mkzelda> I got a notice that theres unacceptable levels of lead and copper in my drinking water, and has been since I've lived here
23:22 <mkzelda> someone here would say its god punishing homos
23:23 <mkzelda> but i dont think thats it this time
23:23 <mkzelda> ls
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's god punishing copyright pirates
23:23 <mkzelda> well the others around me arent
23:23 <xfroggy> O_o ??
23:23 <mkzelda> so is he punishing the group for my actions?
23:23 <mkzelda> maybe, he does do things like that
23:24 <mkzelda> he killed his son b/c some people werent doing what he liked
23:24 <mkzelda> that sounds like the actions of a man in need of a beer and some head
23:25 <epsy> i need to get back on my !delire !nodelire script
23:25 <epsy> before the 10th of june
23:25 <mkzelda> whats that mean?
23:25 <epsy> i need to publish at least a preview,
23:26 <epsy> as i'm off from the 10th until the 24th
23:26 <epsy> mkzelda, errr
23:26 <epsy> how to explain that as i fucked it up
23:27 <epsy> maybe there's a server up with it
23:27 <epsy> wait
23:28 <epsy> hmm no
23:29 <luke-jr_> my bank just crossed the line of how pissed off they can make me
23:29 <epsy> kinda like a shell for arma
23:29 <epsy> O.o
23:29  * luke-jr_ is closing all his accounts soon
23:29 <epsy> O.o
23:29 <epsy> this means ?
23:29 <epsy> that lightfoot will shutdown ?
23:30 <epsy> mkzelda, 
23:31 <luke-jr_> no
23:31 <luke-jr_> it means I'm moving the little money I have to a different bank
23:31 <epsy> we would only be able to pay with gold ? :P
23:31 <epsy> oh
23:32 <epsy> hungarian money then ? 
23:32 <luke-jr_> it also means that I'm going to crack down on people who are a few months late on payments
23:32 <luke-jr_> cuz right now PayPal is my only means to spend $
23:32 <luke-jr_> and I try to keep it empty :p
23:32 <luke-jr_> or tried*
23:32 <epsy> heh
23:33 <epsy> how many clients do you have so far ?
23:33 <epsy> (only for amra servers)
23:33 <luke-jr_> right now, 5
23:33 <luke-jr_> oh
23:33 <luke-jr_> only arma = 4
23:34 <epsy> which delivers how many US$ ?
23:34 <luke-jr_> in theory, or in practice? :p
23:35 <epsy> both
23:35 <mkzelda> theory thats like $100/mo ?
23:35 <luke-jr_> lol
23:35 <luke-jr_> $64 in theory, before expenses
23:36 <luke-jr_> about $20 in practice, also before expenses
23:36 <luke-jr_> approximate, since not all is USD
23:38 <epsy> .c 64 USD in euro
23:38 <crazy-tronners> epsy: 64 USD in euro
23:38 <epsy> arf
23:38 <epsy> .gcalc 64 USD in euro
23:38 <crazy-tronners> Dunno!
23:38 <epsy> .calc 64 USD in euro
23:38 <crazy-tronners> epsy: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
23:38 <xfroggy> .calc 64USD in euro
23:38 <crazy-tronners> xfroggy: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
23:38 <xfroggy> no more #?
23:39 <xfroggy> #roulette
23:39 <epsy> armabot's gone
23:39 <xfroggy> no armabot :(
23:39 <epsy> since a fucking netsplit 2 days after wrtl's gone
23:39 <xfroggy> oh
23:40 <xfroggy> .calc "64USD in euro"
23:40 <crazy-tronners> xfroggy: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
23:40 <xfroggy> lol
23:41 <luke-jr_> hmmm
23:41 <epsy> P4, you there ?
23:41 <luke-jr_> if my records are correct, one of these guys has never paid... :/
23:41 <epsy> (who ? :p )
23:41 <luke-jr_> DHM
23:42 <epsy> what server it is ?
23:42 <luke-jr_> not sure
23:42 <epsy> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=64+usd+in+euro&btnG=Google+Search
23:43 <epsy> hmm
23:43 <epsy> this is taking hours
23:43 <luke-jr_> lol
23:44  * epsy is downloading freespace 2
23:44 <epsy> 3 rar'd iso
23:44 <luke-jr_> ok, so 2 of the 4 arma servers are actually paying
23:45 <epsy> 2200Mo
23:45 <luke-jr_> Mo?
23:45 <epsy> 2200MO
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23:48 <epsy> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=64+megabytes+in+megabits&btnG=Search
23:48 <luke-jr_> MO?
23:48 <epsy> MB then :P
23:50 <luke-jr_> finally
23:50 <luke-jr_> you learn that "megabyte" does not have an "O"!
23:51 <epsy> yeah the french of byte is confusing
23:51  * luke-jr_ wonders who it was that paid him with snail mail cash
23:51 <epsy> not me ? xD
23:51 <luke-jr_> lol
23:51 <mkzelda> haha
23:52 <mkzelda> who sends cash in the mail
23:52 <mkzelda> they're askin for it to get stolen
23:54 <luke-jr_> I warned em
23:54 <luke-jr_> I wonder if I ever received it
23:54 <luke-jr_> ...
23:54 <crazy-tronners> luke-jr_, ...
23:54 <epsy> sending cash in a webmail ? oh, i was wonderin' why :D
23:55 <epsy> *how

Log from 2007-06-03:
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00:07  * GodTodd wonders who doesn't keep track of business income better than "i wonder who sent that payment"...
00:07 <GodTodd> oh, yeah, i know who....Enron ;)
00:07 <mkzelda> heh
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> halliburton, too
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> or maybe it's that halliburton is on the beneficiary's end of the federal government's bad accounting
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> mci
00:11 <GodTodd> nah...they keep good track of income...they were accused of getting a no bid contract :P
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> that investment firm
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> really?  What was the deal with the money that disappeared as soon as it arrived in Iraq, with halliburton standing around it?
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> (getting a no-bid contract isn't a big deal since most government contracts are bid low anyway and then the price jacked up as soon as it's signed)
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, no answer from the pyqt list about that python object that's arriving in a slot as a float :/
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to see if making it inherit qvariant fixes it
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00:15 <Lucifer_bed> hey, if you said anything after I said that about the pyqt list, I didn't get it
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00:20 <Lucifer_arma> nope, inheriting qvariant didn't fix it
00:23 <P4> epsy: yes?
00:23 <P4> oh the string?
00:24 <epsy> P4, can you implement the google plguin ?
00:25 <P4> guys from #supybot says it's better to use yahoo plugin, yahoo causes some errors on loading
00:26 <P4> i cant use google cause i cant get my google API's license key ;P
00:26 <epsy> gcalc...
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect google closed their web apis
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, I have a license key and armabot uses it, but still fails
00:26 <P4> oh
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> we got quite dependent on gcalc :/
00:27 <P4> Lucifer_arma: why did you shutdown armabot?
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't, I turned her over to wrtlprnft sometime ago
00:27 <P4> oh
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> he's on vacation right now, so probably his computer crashed that runs armabot and he's just not there to fix it
00:27 <P4> i see
00:28 <Lucifer_arma> or maybe someone in his house rebooted the computer and armabot needs to be restarted by hand
00:28 <epsy> no, there was a netsplit
00:28 <epsy> armabot didn't came back
00:29 <P4> armabot There was no such nickname
00:29 <P4> it was long time ago
00:29 <P4> he used same host that wrtlprnft uses
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah right, a big-ass netsplit
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't supybot be able to deal with that?
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> wrtl is still on vacation and can't fix it until he gets back :(
00:30 <P4> sure, mine reconnects as fast as network connection is up
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00:31 <Lucifer_arma> so godtodd brought in BotSub temporarily while armabot was gone
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> then you brought in the crazy-tronners bot which has more arma-centric stuff in it
00:32 <P4> i just recovered few aliases ;)
00:36 <P4> there's something additional what i found on wrtl's site
00:36 <P4> .players
00:36 <crazy-tronners> P4: This data is 11 seconds old; #1STUD, $_TrEnT_$jfacas, $_TrEnT_$Mr.Pwn, *Knuddelengel*, -*$P*-<y<lo, -=}ID< hulett, -HsP- Cool Cat, -HsP-Agooch, .:PB:.$KING$, .dBd|XPoPX, /dev/urandom, /WHG\ Nail3728, 0x, 0xddaa55010.ne, <<freakful1>>, <<jasmine>>, birdman, blasto, BLAX, BLUE, Chef-dono, Chef-Thomas, cliftron, closure, conut, CT, CTxOwned, da shiznit, Dalth, DOPE, Dr Joe Tron, EPHEC, Espeon, (2 more messages)
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00:52 <Vanhayes> .armaservers
00:52 <crazy-tronners> I don't have a clue!
00:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: Vanhayes civ/glob2?
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01:03 <Your_mom_arma> Vanhayes: ping
01:03 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_, get one more and ill play
01:03 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma, pong
01:04 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma, want to play a game of civ with me and luke-jr_ ?
01:04 <Your_mom_arma> did you get that pm deal from lacks? do you know what exactly is going on?
01:04 <Vanhayes> I got that a while ago, sent mine on to whatup
01:05  * GodTodd notes luke-jr_ must not have understood Lucifer_arma when he said he got bored with glob2 and is boycotting freeciv atm
01:05  * Vanhayes never played glob2 and isnt planning on it anytime soon
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> think I should join?
01:06 <Vanhayes> hmm, who sent it to you? 
01:06 <luke-jr_> bored w/ glob2 could be just the AIs
01:06 <Vanhayes> just wondering how far its gotten
01:06 <GodTodd> or it could be that it sucks ;)
01:07 <Your_mom_arma> Van-hayes  Whatup pavelo Pez Rico
01:07 <Vanhayes> Your_mom_arma, this is the "Justice League" thing right?
01:07 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:08 <Vanhayes> all you do is send the same message to someone you think is good at fort, just add their name to it
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> I might be interested, but I don't want to be thrown together with just random people
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> I was kinda wondering if you had an idea about how teams would form
01:09 <Vanhayes> you would have to ask lack about that, I think itd be random
01:11 <Vanhayes> thing is, I was sent that on april 3, and sent mine out a couple days after thet, and it seems there has only been 4 people added to the list
01:11 <Vanhayes> so, about 2 months since I saw or heard anything about this
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> its like chain mail, it makes me feel dirty
01:13 <Vanhayes> I know, I had to take a bath right afterwards
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:14 <Vanhayes> I thought it had died with whatup since he didnt send me his list back with the one he picked
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> about freeciv , maybe, but I won't know or be able to play for at least 1 hour, maybe even 3
01:17 <Vanhayes> well, its still reletivly early for civ anyways
01:17 <epsy> .night
01:17 <crazy-tronners> I have no idea!
01:18 <epsy> !night
01:18 <BotSub> Goodnight epsy :(
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01:22 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: is it?
01:23 <Vanhayes> we usually start it up around midnight, here, and its still only 8:22
01:23 <Your_mom_arma> well, I sent it to nemo, so I expect it'll be about a month before another person is added to the list
01:26 <luke-jr_> Vanhayes: pfft
01:26 <Vanhayes> want to elaborate on that a little bit?
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01:51 <Lucifer_arma> hah, I got that justice league thing and just forgot about it
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> it would be a tad helpful if I could see a known and verified hostmask for z-man at home
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01:57 <Vanhayes> hmm, be back in a couple hours, if you want to start a civ game before then, make me a civ please
02:00 <P4> .nickometer 31337
02:00 <crazy-tronners> P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "31337" is 97.3%.
02:00 <P4> what's 100% lamenest?
02:01 <Lucifer_arma> we'd managed to get a nick that was 99.9999999999999999999999% lame
02:05 <P4> .armalize doll ball
02:05 <P4> ;)
02:05 <crazy-tronners> bump of headstock
02:08 <P4> .armalize it's 2 o'clock and i have to sleep but i can't close my computer-to-brain connection
02:09 <crazy-tronners> is 2 hours of the morning and computer-with-brain of them of the connection of my At the end of the training course of the edge of I of goal to the sleep of ego must
02:23 <mkzelda> .nickometer mkzelda
02:23 <crazy-tronners> mkzelda: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "mkzelda" is 0.0%.
02:24 <mkzelda> how's that work?
02:24 <mkzelda> .nickometer a1
02:24 <crazy-tronners> mkzelda: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "a1" is 21.5%.
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer 1337_HiIAmAwesome==--==??
02:24 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337_HiIAmAwesome==--==??" is 99.98%.
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02:57 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer 1337_HiIaMaWes0m3==--==??
02:57 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337_HiIaMaWes0m3==--==??" is 99.98%.
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer 1337_Hi_IaMaWes0m3==--==??
02:57 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337_Hi_IaMaWes0m3==--==??" is 99.98%.
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> .nickometer --==1337_Hi_IaMaWes0m3==--
02:57 <crazy-tronners> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "--==1337_Hi_IaMaWes0m3==--" is 99.97%.
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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03:37 <Your_mom_arma> well I'm ready when every Vanhayes gets back
03:38 <Your_mom_arma> every-> ever 
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05:03  * Lucifer_arma hates it when he writes two similar objects that do the same thing, but are just different enough that they're hard to combine
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06:35 <MrBougo> hello
06:35 <MrBougo> i haven't seen groundpig for a while.. no news about him?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> last I heard he got eaten
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07:56 <MrBougo> :(
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08:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
08:46 -!- Lucifer_arma changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407
08:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
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09:49 <MrBougo> bye!
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10:11 <DrJoeTron> durp durp
10:17 <digitx> beep meep
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> man, what a pain
10:39 <DrJoeTron> sorry :/
10:39 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma what did i do :I
10:39 <Lucifer_arma> made this little protocol a pain to write
10:45 <DrJoeTron> sorry
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> phew
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> got logins working again
10:52  * Lucifer_arma wonders how many times he's going to get excited about getting logins working
11:00 <digitx> .
11:05 <P4> Lucifer_arma: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "1337_Hi_IaMaWes0m3==--==??" is 99.98%. <=- nice ^^
11:06 <P4> channels
11:06 <P4> oops
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11:11 <epsy> hi
11:11 <P4> .czesc epsy
11:11 <crazy-tronners> epsy: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
11:12 <epsy> xD
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11:32 <P4> http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7355/schowek01tz4.jpg <=- does armagetronad wiki always look like this? maybe my browser is messed up?
11:33 <epsy> change the theme in your prefs
11:35 <P4> aw... it's default skin...
11:35 <P4> myskin looks similiar
11:36 <epsy> since when are you using wingblows ? >:)
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11:37 <P4> since i got adsl modem with USB plug :|
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11:38 <P4> maybe you've heard abour thomson speedtouch 
11:38 <P4> epsy: look, this is other skin :|
11:38 <P4> http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/8049/schowek01sp3.jpg
11:38 <P4> it's almost same :|
11:38 <P4> haven't you got any backgroun picture?
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11:43 <P4> oh i got it, the skin is named armagetronad not default ;)
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12:24 <KeY_3113> hey
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12:40 <K-Yo> no one here?
12:43 <P4> hi
12:44 <P4> .tea
12:44 <crazy-tronners> P4: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Gonzap, K-Yo, N (o)(o) B, ShU_NtOñ!t0, van Nelle, ~{GP}~ Gabor, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, °°dmo
12:44 <K-Yo> hey
12:45 <P4> what's up K-Yo? 
12:45 <K-Yo> nothing special...
12:45 <K-Yo> and you?
12:45 <P4> problems at university...
12:45 <K-Yo> .tea
12:45 <crazy-tronners> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Gonzap, K-Yo, N (o)(o) B, van Nelle, ¢T?GlûFG$êk, ¦×¥ $µazero
12:46 <K-Yo> lol
12:46 <K-Yo> really?
12:46 <K-Yo> what kind?
12:47 <P4> i got backwardness
12:47 <K-Yo> i don't understand
12:47 <P4> im not so good in english :P
12:48 <K-Yo> ^^
12:48 <P4> i got troubles to pass this semester :)
12:48 <K-Yo> me neither
12:48 <K-Yo> i'm french
12:48 <P4> i mean :( not :)
12:48 <P4> .t en fr Hello :)
12:48 <crazy-tronners> P4: Bonjour :)
12:48 <K-Yo> bonjour ^^
12:48 <K-Yo> .t
12:48 <crazy-tronners> K-Yo: (babelfish translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
12:49 <K-Yo> thaha
12:49 <K-Yo> .t fr en la fac ca se passe mal alors?
12:49 <crazy-tronners> K-Yo: does the FAC Ca occur badly then?
12:50 -!- P4 is now known as crazy-tronner
12:50 -!- crazy-tronner is now known as P4
12:51 <K-Yo> where are you playing?
12:51 -!- crazy-tronners is now known as crazy-tronner
12:51 <P4> im not playing right now
12:51 <P4> im gonna smoke some weed and enjoy some tron
12:51 <P4> .lastseen lulejko
12:52 <crazy-tronner> P4: timed out
12:52 <P4> .lastseen maño
12:52 -!- KeY_3113 [n=OKeY_311@gre92-2-82-66-105-52.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
12:52 <crazy-tronner> P4: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'
12:52 <P4> .lastseen mano
12:52 <crazy-tronner> P4: Manon has last been seen on |FA| Clan Server – Shrinkin-Angels 4 minutes ago.
12:52 <P4> damn
12:52 <P4> .lastseen hand
12:52 <crazy-tronner> P4: timed out
12:54 <K-Yo> .lastseen K-Yo
12:54 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: K-Yo seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
12:54 <K-Yo> funny
12:55 <P4> i cant find friends ;P
12:57 <K-Yo> too bad
12:57 <K-Yo> twhere is the listn of the copmmands of the chat?
12:57 <K-Yo> (if u want we can be friends and then u can find at least one friend
12:58 <P4> try .? ot .list 
12:58 <K-Yo> .?
12:58 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: .., ?, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, cnn, (5 more messages)
12:58 <P4> or .help cmd
12:58 <K-Yo> ..
12:58 <crazy-tronner> I have no idea, K-Yo.
12:58 <K-Yo> t^o)
12:59 <K-Yo> t.binary
12:59 <K-Yo> .binary
12:59 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (binary <text>) -- Returns the binary representation of <text>.
12:59 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-085-216-060-101.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron
12:59 <K-Yo> hey
12:59 <K-Yo> .lastseen deja_vu
12:59 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: deja_vu has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 0 days 13 hours 25 minutes ago.
12:59 <P4> .binary [czesc deja_vu]
12:59 <crazy-tronner> 01100100011001010110101001100001010111110111011001110101001110100010000001010000001101000010000001110111011000010110111001110100011100110010000001101101011001010010000001110100011011110010000001110100011001010110110001101100001000000111100101101111011101010010000000000011001100000011001001001000000000110011000000110110011001010000001100110001001100100110110000000011001100000011010101101100000000110 (1 more message)
12:59 <P4> ;P
13:00 <P4> .armalize [czesc deja_vu]
13:00 <crazy-tronner> Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
13:02 <K-Yo> q.armalize ^o)
13:02 <K-Yo> .armalize ^o)
13:02 <crazy-tronner> ^o)
13:03 <K-Yo> .binary ^o)
13:03 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: 010111100110111100101001
13:03 <K-Yo> .cfg
13:03 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
13:03 <K-Yo> .cats
13:03 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players.
13:04 <K-Yo> .cmd
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: I offer a total of 301 commands in 43 command-based plugins.  I have processed 879 commands.
13:04 <K-Yo> .?
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: .., ?, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, cnn, (5 more messages)
13:04 <K-Yo> .any
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Someone was last seen in #armagetron 6 seconds ago: <K-Yo> .?
13:04 <K-Yo> .any
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Someone was last seen in #armagetron 11 seconds ago: <K-Yo> .any
13:04 <K-Yo> .chr
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (chr <number>) -- Returns the character associated with the 8-bit value <number>
13:04 <K-Yo> .cnn
13:04 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (cnn <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
13:05 <K-Yo> .change
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: The command "change" is available in the Herald and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "change".
13:05 <K-Yo> .capitalize
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (capitalize <text>) -- Returns <text> capitalized.
13:05 <K-Yo> .capitalize i'm a fucking noob
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: I'm a fucking noob
13:05 <K-Yo> .aol
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (aol <text>) -- Returns <text> as if an AOLuser had said it.
13:05 <K-Yo> .aol hey there
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: hey there:-):-):-)
13:05 <K-Yo> .aol I love you
13:05 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: I <3 you<3<3<3
13:06 <K-Yo> .armaconfig
13:06 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
13:06 <K-Yo> .armaconfig K-Yo
13:06 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Sorry, no matches :S
13:06 <K-Yo> .alert
13:06 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
13:06 <K-Yo> .announce
13:06 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
13:06 <P4> K-Yo!
13:06 <K-Yo> .?
13:06 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: .., ?, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, cnn, (5 more messages)
13:07 <K-Yo> .?
13:07 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: .., ?, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, cnn, (5 more messages)
13:07 <deja_vu> hey K-Yo ;)
13:07 <K-Yo> hey
13:07 <K-Yo> .at
13:07 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (at <time string>) -- Returns the number of seconds since epoch <time string> is. <time string> can be any number of natural formats; just try something and see if it will work.
13:07 <K-Yo> .add
13:07 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Herald, RSS, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
13:07 <K-Yo> .capabilities
13:07 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:08 <K-Yo> .babelize
13:08 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (babelize <from-language> <to-language> <text>) -- Translates <text> repeatedly between <from-language> and <to-language> until it doesn't change anymore or 12 times, whichever is fewer. One of the languages must be English.
13:08 <P4> channel ignore add #armagetron K-Yo 100
13:08 <P4> .channel ignore add #armagetron K-Yo 100
13:08 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
13:08 <P4> ;)
13:08 <K-Yo> ^^
13:08 <K-Yo> what is it?
13:08 <K-Yo> .at
13:08 <K-Yo> oh:(
13:08 <P4> .alias add olej "channel ignore add #armagetron $*"
13:08 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
13:09 <P4> .alias lock olej
13:09 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
13:09 <P4> 100 is 100 sec or 100 min :P
13:09 <K-Yo> who are you talking to?
13:09 <K-Yo> .at 100
13:09 <P4> 03Jun07 131045 <K-Yo> what is it? <=-
13:10 <K-Yo> .nick
13:10 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
13:10 <K-Yo> whoami
13:10 <K-Yo> .whoami
13:10 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: I don't recognize you.
13:10 <K-Yo> ok... i'll remember that
13:10 <P4> 100 seconds :|
13:10 <P4> ok :P
13:12 <P4> .tea
13:13 <crazy-tronner> P4: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): IL, K-Yo, van Nelle, ~~~J~~~, ¢S?FlûGG$êl, ¦×¥ $µazero
13:13 <P4> ok
13:13 <P4> 6 players is OK :}
13:13 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
13:14 <K-Yo> how whange name?
13:18 <epsy> /nick
13:19 -!- AL [n=AL@pool-71-255-205-121.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has quit []
13:24 -!- K-Yo is now known as KeY_3113
13:24 <KeY_3113> tty
13:24 <KeY_3113> tyou come to FC epsy?
13:24 <KeY_3113> .tea
13:24 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): ikono, IL, john, K-Yo, Monkey, Zer0, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ¢S?FlûGG$êl, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ©S¦µ4
13:29 <KeY_3113> .players
13:29 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: This data is 54 seconds old; $ÃsïuÃ~|DS|~ j, (Nigel), --->>New<<---, .dBd|Reev, 0x, Ad0x00ffaaio, Agathe, Angel of Death, aw.cow, áWºb¿¤w, BFAM | Alex, Corback, CuRbSidE, DaViD!!!!!, Evergreen, Fasol, Fellwurst, Fìréfly, FrogStar, GALGO, goemb, Grintzefish, ikono, IL, jfacas_Portugal, john, K-Yo, L2K|ASSASSIN, leo, LG$, Louis, lulejko, mañn, Monkey, moumoune, NBA, neurox, Player 1, (1 more message)
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13:32 <epsy> fc ?
13:33 <KeY_3113> .tea
13:33 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): $ÅtïvÁ, IL, K-Yo, Monkey, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ¢S?FlûGG$êl, ¦Ö¦$µbzero
13:34 <KeY_3113> fortress café
13:34 <KeY_3113> .lastseen Player1
13:34 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: timed out
13:36 <KeY_3113> .lastseen Player1
13:37 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: TehREAL Player1 has last been seen on SPACEZONE III 1 days 20 hours 54 minutes ago.
13:46 <KeY_3113> .lastseen $ubzero
13:46 <KeY_3113> .lastseen incoming
13:46 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: timed out
13:46 <KeY_3113> .lastseen incoming
13:46 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: timed out
13:46 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: timed out
13:47 -!- KeY_3113 is now known as K-Yo
13:47 <CT|P4> .lastseen lulejko
13:47 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: lulejko has last been seen on TYSKIE:WARZONE 1 minute ago.
13:48 <CT|P4> .lastseen mañn
13:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: mañn has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 17 minutes ago.
13:50 -!- K-Yo [n=OKeY_311@gre92-2-82-66-105-52.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"]
14:01 <epsy> .armaservers
14:01 <crazy-tronner> I don't have a clue!
14:01 <epsy> .onlineservers
14:01 <crazy-tronner> Wish I knew!
14:01 <epsy> errr
14:01 <epsy> .players
14:01 <crazy-tronner> epsy: This data is 3 seconds old; !-_$Thuyon$_-!, "Ru|\||\|er !!, $_TrEjfacas, (=~luAp~<@>, (god), --->>New<<---, -=LoCo=-, -HsP-Kriki, -NMT-LINK, 0x999999Zhzash, 0z*honestSith, :..:Thuyon, =[Aw]= Mãvêrïçj, Angel, Becca, BFAM | Alex, Coonzy, CuRbSidE, DaatH, Elektr!co, FrogStar, gK|name, gK|Splint, goemb, Gutsiii, Hask, Hatebreeder, IL, j·Ã·ð, L2K|ASSASSIN, LG$, Lii, manu, Marth, Meister_Mauri, (1 more message)
14:02 <epsy> .more
14:02 <crazy-tronner> epsy: Monkey, noBrand, not free west, OoO-[ToNy]-OoO, Player 1, Player 1, Pluto, raquel, Sandia, Shyper Corridor, Sl33py, Slettebak, Snake, the godfather, The_Dragon5, toxic, triller, waKurwaKurwaKur, womble, X-cékia-X, [SFC]ZuRy, ||||, ~!|BD|UnEAzY_~, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ~|DS|~sunny*, °¯emo
14:02 <epsy> .lastseen monkey
14:02 <crazy-tronner> epsy: Monkey seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
14:02 <epsy> .team
14:02 <crazy-tronner> I have no idea!
14:02 <epsy> .tea
14:02 <crazy-tronner> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): (=~luAp~<@>, Becca, IL, j·Þ·ð, Monkey, ~|DS|~sunny*, °¯emo
14:32 -!- _Sticky_ [n=Sticky@80-41-29-115.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron
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14:36 -!- KeY_3113 is now known as K-Yo
14:36 <K-Yo> hey
14:37 <K-Yo> .lastseen fofo
14:37 <K-Yo> .tea
14:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: timed out
14:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): (=~luAp~<@>, -HsP-Kriki, Dez, G5, ikono, IL, Monkey, Sithy, ~{GP}~ Gabor, °¯pixel, °¯Plato
14:38 <K-Yo> .players
14:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: This data is 44 seconds old; $_TrEnT_$jfacas, (=~luAp~<@>, -HsP-Kriki, -NMT-LINK, 0x, 0z*honestSith, 21-19, alvic, Angel, cameron, Cobra, CTxOwned, CTônreal, darko, Dez, Fum Ducker, G5, GALGO, goemb, HappyHardcore, ikono, IL, jack-eeeeeeeeee, Joey~|GP|~Joey, Monkey, nerdo, Niklas, nil, noob13, philou, Player 1, rodrigoramos, sinji_fr, Sithy, Smith, Sµhcide, ULTRA, Voyd, x|X¦Ã¦W|x, Yamaccc (1 more message)
14:38 <K-Yo> .lastseen darko
14:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: darko seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
14:39 <K-Yo> .lastseen dez
14:39 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Dez seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
14:39 <K-Yo> .ctwf
14:39 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (7/14): CTxOwned, darko, goemb, POYASTROL, ULTRA, |JP| Rav, ~{GP}~Alien
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14:58 <MrBougo> hello!
14:58 <epsy> hay
14:59 <MrBougo> epsy, i'm trying to mod trem :D
14:59 <MrBougo> but stupid stuff
15:00 <epsy> :P
15:03 <MrBougo> amen
15:03 <epsy> haha
15:03 <MrBougo> i think /msg epsy version? works better :p
15:03 <MrBougo> how did you do that with xchat?
15:03 <epsy> MrBougo, xchat
15:03 <MrBougo> ...
15:03 <crazy-tronner> MrBougo, ...
15:03 <MrBougo> bah
15:04 <MrBougo> i use xchat too
15:04 <epsy> !!!
15:04 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
15:06 <MrBougo> epsy, ctcp version me
15:06 <MrBougo> i can do that, but not replace the original ctcp
15:07 <epsy> >MrBougo< CTCP VERSION
15:07 <epsy> -MrBougo- VERSION xchat 2.8.0-1 Windows XP [Intel Pentium 4/3,01GHz]
15:07 <epsy> -MrBougo- Blah
15:08 <MrBougo> :(
15:15 <epsy> there's a setting to disable ctcps
15:15 <epsy> *err no, to disable ctcp version
15:16 <MrBougo> oh
15:17 <MrBougo> umm where
15:17 <epsy> can't remember the setting, thru
15:17 <MrBougo> thats funny
15:18 <MrBougo> when you whois epsy epsy you get idle time
15:18 <MrBougo> when you whois epsy you dont
15:18 <epsy> MrBougo, /hidever
15:19 <MrBougo> * hidever :Unknown command
15:19 <MrBougo> epsy: could you check this in your user commands?
15:19 <MrBougo> if there's an hidever alias
15:19 <epsy> no there isn't
15:20 <epsy> and it wasn't the thing i user
15:20 <epsy> well, google it
15:20 <epsy> i'pm off
15:20 <epsy> *-p
15:20 <MrBougo> lol
15:20 <MrBougo> bye :(
15:29 <epsy> MrBougo, /set irc_hide_version 1
15:29 <MrBougo> :DDDD
15:29 <MrBougo> ty
15:29 <epsy> cu
15:29 <MrBougo> cya :(
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15:59 <MrBougo> bye
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16:09 <CT|P4> .cfg spawn
16:09 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: CYCLE_FIRST_SPAWN_PROTECTION: Set to 1 if the invulnerability and wall delay should already be active on the initial spawn at the beginning of a round. (default: 0) || CYCLE_FIRST_SPAWN_PROTECTION_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 3) || SPAWN_POINT_GROUP_SIZE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 0) || SPAWN_WINGMEN_BACK: Determines how much each wingman is placed backwards in a team. (default: 2.2029) (1 more message)
16:10 <CT|P4> .more
16:10 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: || SPAWN_WINGMEN_SIDE: Determines how much each wingman is placed sidewards in a team. (default: 2.75362)
16:11 -!- Brophi [n=Brophi@144.139.80.251] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
16:16 -!- KeY_3113 [n=KeY_3113@gre92-2-82-66-105-52.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
16:17 -!- KeY_3113 is now known as K-Yo
16:21 <CT|P4> .nickometer KeY_3113
16:21 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "KeY_3113" is 78.2%.
16:21 <CT|P4> .nickometer K-Yo
16:21 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "K-Yo" is 18.8%.
16:27 -!- kidd [n=kidd@232.Red-88-24-246.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Changing server"]
16:31 <K-Yo> .nickometer CT|P4
16:31 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "CT|P4" is 41.1%.
16:31 <K-Yo> ...
16:31 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo, ...
16:31 <K-Yo> yes?
16:31 <K-Yo> ...
16:31 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo, ...
16:31 <K-Yo> ... I love you
16:31 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo, ...
16:31 <K-Yo> oh
16:31 <CT|P4> ;P
16:31 <K-Yo> i had to try
16:32 <K-Yo> .nickometer KeY_3113
16:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "KeY_3113" is 78.2%.
16:32 <K-Yo> .nickometer wrtlprnft
16:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "wrtlprnft" is 0.0%.
16:32 <K-Yo> haha
16:32 <K-Yo> .nickometer z-man
16:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "z-man" is 14.4%.
16:33 <K-Yo> how is this lag o meter working?
16:33 <K-Yo> you know?
16:33 <K-Yo> .? lagometer
16:33 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: (commands takes no arguments) -- Returns a list of the commands offered by the bot.
16:33 <CT|P4> i can show you python sources if you want
16:33 <K-Yo> i don't know python but why not
16:34 <duudii> .nickometer duudii
16:34 <crazy-tronner> duudii: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "duudii" is 0.0%.
16:34 <K-Yo> you made it?
16:34 <duudii> :P
16:34 <K-Yo> t^
16:34 <K-Yo> ^^
16:34 <CT|P4> http://p4ziom.dyndns.tv/Nickometer/ <=- here you got
16:34 <K-Yo> .nickometer crazy-tronner
16:34 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "crazy-tronner" is 14.4%.
16:34 <K-Yo> thx
16:34 <K-Yo> .lagometer
16:34 <crazy-tronner> No idea.
16:38 <K-Yo> .nickometer 69
16:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "69" is 71.5%.
16:38 <K-Yo> .nickometer lame
16:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "lame" is 61.6%.
16:38 <K-Yo> .nickometer pron
16:38 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "pron" is 94.7%.
16:39 <K-Yo> wow it's well done... the guy who made that is a real geek ^^
16:41 <K-Yo> can i find the archieves of the chan on the net?
16:46 <CT|P4> what you mean?
16:48 <CT|P4> .nickometer warez
16:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "warez" is 94.7%.
16:48 <CT|P4> .nickometer w4r3z
16:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "w4r3z" is 99.7%.
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16:48 <CT|P4> .nickometer w4r3z-pr0n
16:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "w4r3z-pr0n" is 99.93%.
16:48 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508735B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
16:48 <CT|P4> .nickometer d4rk-w4r3z-pr0n
16:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "d4rk-w4r3z-pr0n" is 99.96%.
16:48 <CT|P4> ;P
16:48 <CT|P4> .nickometer xX-d4rK-w4R3z-pR0n
16:48 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "xX-d4rK-w4R3z-pR0n" is 99.98%.
16:49 <CT|P4> bah... :P
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16:51 <_Sticky_> whats the trigger character for the bot?
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16:52 <CT|P4> .nickometer \x0\x0\x0xx-\r0\r0\r0w4r3z-\k0pR0n\k0\k0\k0
16:52 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "\x0\x0\x0xx-\r0\r0\r0w4r3z-\k0pR0n\k0\k0\k0" is 99.993%.
16:52 <CT|P4> ;>
16:52 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4
16:53 -!- vinavil [n=rain@85-18-66-26.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #armagetron
16:53 <_Sticky_> .nickometer Sticky
16:53 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "Sticky" is 0.0%.
16:53 <_Sticky_> WOO
16:54 <P4> .sty
16:54 <crazy-tronner> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (1/8): arma (ntbc)
16:54 <_Sticky_> .tea
16:54 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: No online players.
16:55 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["Távozom"]
16:56 <K-Yo> .tea
16:56 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
16:56 <K-Yo> oh
16:56 <K-Yo> .ctwf
16:56 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (12/14): K alf ñ, KiLLeR, Sl33py, sync, ULTRA, [UPZ] -SMOKE-, [UPZ]-Pyr0TeK, _=$0ny~$T()N3R~, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥HoAX, °°¯ 3döt °¯°	da
16:56 <K-Yo> here i go
16:57 <P4> .lastseen ct|p4
16:57 <crazy-tronner> P4: timed out
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17:10 <_Sticky_> arg wont anyone leave ctwf
17:16 <K-Yo> lol
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17:18 <mkzelda> herro
17:19 <mkzelda> ladel in 4 hrs?
17:19 <mkzelda> ladle even
17:20 <K-Yo> is the laddle open to everyone?
17:21 <mkzelda> everyone with a team
17:22 <K-Yo> can i create a team whith only me inside?
17:22 <K-Yo> ^^
17:22 <mkzelda> no
17:22 <K-Yo> too bad
17:22 <mkzelda> i dont think, nor would it be possible to win a round
17:23 <mkzelda> not every team is open to everyone, since they only need 8-10 tops and some have ability requirements, but RTM, some teams may be looking for a plaeyr
17:24 <mkzelda> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Ladle
17:24 <K-Yo> ty
17:25 <K-Yo> (what does RTM means?)
17:27 <mkzelda> read the manual
17:27 <K-Yo> ok
17:28 <mkzelda> if u see rtfm, you've likely angered someone ;)
17:28 <K-Yo> lool
17:28 <P4> why, it's just read  the friendly manual ;)
17:28 <mkzelda> or they're an asshat
17:29 <mkzelda> and they're just mean all the time
17:29  * mkzelda isnt describing anyone in this channel
17:29 <mkzelda> nobody in particular
17:29 <K-Yo> like not who?
17:29 <K-Yo> #message Lucifer_arma You're a prick
17:29 <mkzelda> certainly no one starting with 'l'
17:30 <K-Yo> and more certainly not a u after that not-L
17:31 <mkzelda> exactly, nobody like that here
17:31 <K-Yo> indeed
17:31 <K-Yo> .tea
17:31 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:31 <K-Yo> pfff
17:31 <P4> K-Yo: wanna .tea? :}
17:31 <mkzelda> ill tea
17:31 <P4> i just need few minutes to prepare to teleport
17:31 <K-Yo> ok
17:32 <K-Yo> yes io wanna .tea
17:32 <K-Yo> i'm thirsty
17:32 <K-Yo> .tea
17:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:32 <K-Yo> .tea
17:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:32 <K-Yo> .tea
17:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:32 <K-Yo> .tea
17:32 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:32 <K-Yo> uh?
17:33 <K-Yo> .tea
17:33 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): K-Yo
17:33 <P4> .olej K-Yo 300
17:33 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
17:33 <K-Yo> aaah
17:33 <P4> i brb
17:33 <K-Yo> what is ".olej K-Yo 300"?
17:33 <K-Yo> .olej K-Yo
17:33 <K-Yo> .olej
17:36 <K-Yo> .tea
17:36 <K-Yo> .tea
17:37 <K-Yo> P4 you're evil
17:37 <P4> .tea
17:37 <crazy-tronner> P4: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): K-Yo
17:38 <P4> ok let's team some :]
17:38 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
17:40 <K-Yo> .sumo
17:40 <crazy-tronner> Wish I knew!
17:40 <K-Yo> .sum
17:40 <crazy-tronner> I don't know.
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17:46 <mkzelda> fort cafe is acting up
17:46 <mkzelda> if its like this during ladle its unplayable today :(
17:46 <mkzelda> all of us had pings bouncing around from 200-800
17:47 <K-Yo> go to ladle café
17:47 <mkzelda> im there
17:47 <K-Yo> pings are ok there
17:47 <K-Yo> ok
17:48 <K-Yo> dookatee?
17:55 <mkzelda> yea
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18:09 <K-Yo> sry i don't like sty...
18:11 <_Sticky_> .lastseen Rico
18:11 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: rico has last been seen on SPACEZONE III 1 minute ago.
18:15 <vinavil> will anybody join #arma-ladle channel?
18:16 <CT|P4> .serv -v Fortress Café
18:16 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: Fortress Café (88.198.22.100:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20070425 unix dedic, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “Hetzner server, AMD64 3700+, 1Gbit/s uplink. Standard fortress settings, but with wall shrink. DEDICATED_FPS is increased to 100.“, No online players.
18:17 <_Sticky_> im in the ladle room...why?
18:19 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4
18:20 <vinavil> p4, we are i ladle café
18:20 <K-Yo> ^o)
18:21 <P4> vinavil: what you mean?
18:21 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #armagetron
18:21 <vinavil> server "Ladle Café"
18:21 <P4> .serv Ladle Café
18:21 <crazy-tronner> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ladle café” at the moment, sorry.
18:21 <P4> .lastseen vinavil
18:21 <vinavil> believe me, it exists :)
18:22 <crazy-tronner> P4: timed out
18:22 <P4> what's your name there? :)
18:22 <vinavil> °°rain
18:22 <_Sticky_> AHHHHHHH
18:22 <P4> .lastseen tain
18:22 <P4> .lastseen rain
18:22 <crazy-tronner> P4: Captain_Condom has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 2 days 14 hours 44 minutes ago.
18:22 <crazy-tronner> P4: °¯rain seems to be on Ladle Café right now.
18:22 <P4> .serv Ladle
18:22 <crazy-tronner> P4: Ladle Café: Players (11/16): (SFC)rcgrimm, dookatee, el, GrmlZ, Monkey, ph, Puuquie, van Nelle, yrr, ¦×¥Rico, °¯rain
18:23 <P4> 11 it's pretty much players
18:23 <_Sticky_> well id put great money on a tui vs sp final
18:23 <P4> .alias lock serv
18:23 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
18:23 <P4> .alias add "serv Ladle"
18:23 <crazy-tronner> P4: Error: 'serv Ladle' is not a valid command name.
18:24 <P4> .alias add ladle "serv Ladle"
18:24 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
18:24 <_Sticky_> whats that?
18:24 <P4> now you can call .ladle
18:26 <K-Yo> .ladle
18:26 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Ladle Café: Players (13/16): (SFC)rcgrimm, dookatee, el, GrmlZ, K-Yo, Monkey, ph, Puuquie, van Nelle, yrr, ¦Ö¦Rticky, ¦×¥Rico, °°qain
18:26 <K-Yo> °°qain??
18:27 <_Sticky_> .lastseen 2020
18:27 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: timed out
18:27 <luke-jr_> .lastseen 2020
18:27 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_: timed out
18:27 <luke-jr_> speaking of which
18:28 <luke-jr_> he's 3 months late on his server too :o
18:30 <_Sticky_> 2020 is moving to london atm
18:36 <P4> luke-jr_: can we talk on the side? :)
18:39 <luke-jr_> ah
18:40 <K-Yo> .ladle
18:40 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Ladle Café: Players (9/16): dookatee, el, K-Yo, van Nelle, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~*SP*~viper~, ~*wHaTuP*~, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦Ö¦Rticky
18:46 -!- zesh [n=zesh113@87.114.68.129.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #armagetron
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18:48 <zesh> hey all
18:48 <P4> .czesc zesh
18:48 <crazy-tronner> zesh: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
18:48 <zesh> hey P4
18:48 <DrJoeTron> i want armabot back
18:48 <zesh> lol
18:48 <zesh> a bot!
18:48 <K-Yo> .czesc P4
18:48 <crazy-tronner> P4: K-Yo wants me to tell you Hello!
18:48 <P4> .c yes :)
18:48 <crazy-tronner> P4: yes :)
18:48 <K-Yo> haha
18:48 <zesh> w00†
18:48 <DrJoeTron> crazy-tronner you're a nasty junk slut
18:48 <zesh> i have a mate that programmed his own bot
18:49 <K-Yo> .c Hi I love this useless thing
18:49 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Hi I love this useless thing
18:49  * zesh np: Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Crossroad [03:45m/160kbps/44kHz]
18:49 <zesh> lol
18:49 <P4> .olej K-Yo 300
18:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_] by ChanServ
18:49 <crazy-tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
18:49 <DrJoeTron> jesus christ
18:49 <zesh> invision
18:49 <DrJoeTron> bone things n harmony
18:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+c] by luke-jr_
18:49 <DrJoeTron> is it 1996?
18:49 <P4> :P
18:49 <DrJoeTron> isnt that song a tribute to easy e?
18:49 <zesh> yes it is
18:49 <zesh> :)
18:49 <@luke-jr_> .c test
18:49 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_: test
18:50 <@luke-jr_> :)
18:50 <P4> :)
18:50 <zesh> i listen to way to much bone
18:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_] by luke-jr_
18:50 <zesh> :O
18:50 <zesh>   lol  
18:50 <zesh>   lol   
18:50 <zesh>   lol   
18:50 <zesh>    lol  
18:50 <DrJoeTron> thats my que :)
18:50 <zesh> bet you guys cant guess who i am
18:51 <_Sticky_> a *&@*
18:51 <DrJoeTron> bet you cant guess who cares :V
18:51 <zesh> :O
18:51 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-56-50-151.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has left #Armagetron [">-;;,ccc3"]
18:51 <zesh> :(
18:51 <luke-jr_> CANADA!
18:52 <luke-jr_> :O
18:52 <zesh> SUX
18:52 <K-Yo> .lastseen monkey
18:53 <K-Yo> .lastseen monkey
18:54 <_Sticky_> hes in #arma-ladle now
18:54 <zesh> !lastseen monkey
18:54 <BotSub> zesh: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
18:54 <zesh> :O
18:54 <_Sticky_> .tea
18:54 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: No online players.
18:54 <_Sticky_> .serverinfo ladle
18:54 <crazy-tronner> I don't have a clue!
18:54 <zesh> nice
18:55 <zesh> whose set up the bots
18:55 <K-Yo> .lastseen monkey
18:55 <crazy-tronner> K-Yo: Monkey has last been seen on Ladle Café 19 minutes ago.
18:56 <P4> hmm
18:56 <P4> the armagetron tracker doesnt work :|
18:56 <zesh> :|
18:56 <zesh> you make the bots p4
18:57 -!- K-Yo is now known as [TM_number_5]
18:57 -!- [TM_number_5] is now known as KeY_3113
18:58 <P4> last --in #commits --with armagetronad
18:58 <P4> .last --in #commits --with armagetronad
18:58 <crazy-tronner> P4: [18:36:28] <CIA-6> armagetronad: guru3 * r7285 /www/mainsite/downloads.php: removed amd64 links from openbsd
18:58 <P4> it was 30 minutes ago
18:58 <P4> it seems like it wasnt announced here :|
18:59 <zesh> zomgzors
19:01 <_Sticky_> .lastseen Rico
19:01 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: rico has last been seen on SPACEZONE III 15 minutes ago.
19:01 <_Sticky_> .lastseen FoFo
19:01 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: timed out
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19:07 <epsy> .tea
19:07 <crazy-tronner> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
19:07 <epsy> ...
19:07 <crazy-tronner> epsy, ...
19:07 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
19:07 <Durka> #hello
19:08 <Durka> meh, wrtlpwnd's baby died :'(
19:09 <epsy> hay Durka
19:09 <Durka> hay xD
19:09 <epsy> .czesc Durka
19:09 <crazy-tronner> Durka: epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
19:09 <Durka> :O
19:09 <epsy> :D
19:10 <epsy> eddiefantastic, you there ?
19:10 <epsy> .m eddiefantastic custang needs ip logs for some player like « wtr|Prowler » (with the fucking unicode chars)
19:11 <crazy-tronner> Dunno, epsy.
19:11 <epsy> .tell eddiefantastic custang needs ip logs for some player like « wtr|Prowler » (with the fucking unicode chars)
19:12 <epsy> Durka, playing ?
19:12 -!- akira_ [n=chatzill@p54b4ce19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #armagetron
19:12 <epsy> http://happypenguin.org/newsitem?id=7467
19:13 <epsy> « huge FPS improvements »
19:13 <epsy> i'm gonna try it again then
19:14 <guru3> ooo huge fps improvements
19:14 <guru3> that's good
19:14 <guru3> cause i was getting shit fps with that
19:14 <epsy> yeah
19:14 <epsy> i was playing with all the gfx at the lowest value and i could only get  fps
19:14 <epsy> 10
19:15 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit []
19:15 <guru3> i was playing with everything max and getting like 40fp s:/
19:15 <guru3> but it was still really jerky
19:16 <epsy> « While Nexuiz has improved in all areas, it still stays true to its mission to bring deathmatch back to the basics, with perfect weapon balancing and fast paced action. »
19:16 <epsy> hmmm
19:16 <epsy> the machinegun is still the most powerful weapon
19:17 <guru3> i dunno about that
19:17 <guru3> i think the one hit kill ione is a bit more powerful myself
19:17 <epsy> well, you can kill someone really fast with it, only having 50% of good-aimed shots
19:18 <epsy> heh, rocket launcher :P
19:18 <guru3> i can't remember the weapon names -_-
19:19 <epsy> guru3, what kind of thing it'd produced ?
19:19 <guru3> ?
19:20 <epsy> what was the projectile some kind of electric-splash, a rocket... ?
19:20 <guru3> beam
19:21 <epsy> the electro i presume then
19:21 <guru3> it was hotkey 8 or 9
19:21 <epsy> well i'm gonna emerge it
19:21 <epsy> (hotkeys never worked by me)
19:21 <epsy> (blame sdl)
19:32 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@83.24-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
19:33 <MrBougo> hey epsy
19:33 <MrBougo> i've discovered some shortcut in xchat :p
19:34 <MrBougo> when you use tabbed windows
19:34 <MrBougo> alt + arrows makes the tab move
19:35 <digitx> tremX rulez
19:36 <epsy> MrBougo, i know :P
19:36 <MrBougo> :p
19:36 <MrBougo> how did you figure out?
19:36 <digitx> sure epsy!
19:36 <digitx> dxD
19:36 <epsy> MrBougo, but it's ctrl + shift + pag up/down
19:38 <MrBougo> you're on a mac?
19:38 <MrBougo> or on linux?
19:38 <epsy> gentoo
19:38 <MrBougo> oh right
19:38 <epsy> why ?
19:38 <epsy> ETA 12 minutes on nexuiz
19:38 <epsy> hmm
19:39 <MrBougo> epsy: it's for a tab family
19:39 <MrBougo> alt + keys is for a tab in a family
19:39 <epsy> ???
19:39 <epsy> it works with servers too
19:39 <epsy> ...as well as channels
19:39 <crazy-tronner> I don't know.
19:40 <epsy> crazy-tronner, stfu
19:40 <MrBougo> rofl
19:41 <epsy> whatever ?
19:42 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@dslb-084-056-139-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
19:42 <epsy> hay g5 :)
19:42 <G5_Ger> Hi
19:43 -!- [TM]Monkey [n=None@189.17.239.fdial.global.net.uk] has joined #armagetron
19:44 <MrBougo> G5!!!
19:44 <MrBougo> :D
19:44 <MrBougo> never seen you on irc before :p
19:44 <G5_Ger> MrB: Im not often on IRC.
19:45 <MrBougo> looks so :)
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> other channel g5
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> #arma-ladle
19:45 <epsy> [TM]Monkey, lol ? xD
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> hi epsy
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> you playing ladle/
19:45 <epsy> helle monkey
19:45 <epsy> no
19:45 <epsy> !delire
19:45 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> want to?
19:45 <epsy> when, ?
19:45 <[TM]Monkey> <2 hours
19:46 <MrBougo> oh shitty
19:46 <MrBougo> nevermind
19:46 <epsy> what teams ?
19:46 <MrBougo> thought i had lost my linux password
19:46 <[TM]Monkey> goto #arma-ladle and ask rain
19:46 <[TM]Monkey> im there too
19:46 <epsy> MrBougo << noob
19:46 <[TM]Monkey> anyone else want to play in  ladle do the same
19:46 <MrBougo> :((( epsy
19:47 <_Sticky_> .lastseen Rico
19:47 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: rico seems to be on SPACEZONE III right now.
19:47 <_Sticky_> .Fofo
19:47 <crazy-tronner> Dunno.
19:47 <_Sticky_> .lastseen Fofo
19:47 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: ¦×¥ FoFo has last been seen on Ladle Café 31 minutes ago.
19:47 <MrBougo> lol _Sticky_
19:47 <_Sticky_> .noob
19:47 <crazy-tronner> Dunno!
19:48 <_Sticky_> .lastseen 2020
19:48 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: timed out
19:51 <[TM]Monkey> crazy tronner are u from crazy tron clan?
19:51 <[TM]Monkey> that is another rico, btw ...for above point
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19:56 <MrBougo> lol [TM]Monkey
19:56 <MrBougo> crazy-tronner is a bot
19:58 <[TM]Monkey> lmao
19:58 <[TM]Monkey> the people are so dozy on arma i can tell the difference ;)
20:04 <epsy> .gmtime
20:05 <crazy-tronner> Dunno.
20:05 <epsy> !gmtime
20:05 <BotSub> epsy: Error: "gmtime" is not a valid command.
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20:08 <vinavil> z-man: is it possible to turn off winzone in your ladle server? expansion 0 and initial size 0. me and durka (captains from °°ps and tui) agreed about that.
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20:12 <Zop_> hi guys
20:12 <MrBougo> Zop!
20:12 <MrBougo> it's been a while
20:12 <Zop_> it has
20:12 <G5_Ger> Hi Zop!
20:12 <MrBougo> :D
20:13 <vinavil> why sp vs tm?
20:14 <[TM]Monkey> hi
20:14 <[TM]Monkey> zop we are in #arma-ladle
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20:14 <[TM]Monkey> someone said u might want to play in ladle
20:15 <MrBougo> bye all :(
20:15 <MrBougo> cya on the grid zop
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20:16 <KeY_3113> .tea
20:16 <crazy-tronner> KeY_3113: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Beni, CICCIO, FrogStar, G5, Hangman, [nrx], ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~{GP}~ Gabor
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20:23 <[TM]Monkey> van u playing in ladle?
20:23 <Vanhayes> nope, is it today?
20:23 <[TM]Monkey> yes...you want to play?
20:23 <[TM]Monkey> 2 hours time ish
20:24 <G5_Ger> Van: sure. its always on 1st Sunday of every month
20:24 <[TM]Monkey> ok you want to play for tronic monkeys?
20:24 <Vanhayes> nah, dont feel like playing tron right now
20:24 <[TM]Monkey> ok
20:24 <G5_Ger> Van: ???? :-)
20:28 <Vanhayes> how many teams is there this time?
20:31 <[TM]Monkey> ok we got eggcozy
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20:31 <eggcozy> whats the word?
20:32 <[TM]Monkey> #arma-ladle
20:33 <[TM]Monkey> egg join #arma-ladle
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20:39 <digitx> .
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20:55 <digitx> .list
20:55 <crazy-tronner> digitx: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
20:55 <digitx> uha
20:55 <digitx> xD
20:56 <[TM]Monkey> lmao
20:56 <Vanhayes> .list alias
20:56 <crazy-tronner> Vanhayes: .., ?, add, armaconfig, armalize, c, cats, cfg, ct, ctwf, czesc, dogs, ladle, lastseen, lock, olej, opme, players, rain, remove, serv, serverdetails, st, sty, t, tea, tyskie, and unlock
20:56 <digitx> .list dunno
20:56 <crazy-tronner> digitx: add, change, get, remove, search, and stats
20:56 <Vanhayes> .cats
20:56 <digitx> .?
20:56 <crazy-tronner> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players.
20:56 <crazy-tronner> digitx: .., ?, action, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, (5 more messages)
20:57 <Vanhayes> .ladle
20:57 <crazy-tronner> Vanhayes: Ladle Café: Players (14/16): -HsP- Dal, åopåritiøm, BamBoy, eggcozy, G5, kUix @ tm, Monkey, Slurm, TuI~ViCoDiN, [Döner]²², ¦×¥ FoFo, ¦×¥ Legit, ¦×¥Flex, ¦×¥Sticky
20:57 <digitx> .opme
20:57 <digitx> xD
20:57 <crazy-tronner> digitx: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:57 <digitx> .chr
20:57 <crazy-tronner> digitx: (chr <number>) -- Returns the character associated with the 8-bit value <number>
20:57 <digitx> .chr 4878
20:57 <crazy-tronner> digitx: Error: That number doesn't map to an 8-bit character.
20:57 <digitx> .chr 48787487897878789798798787987878
20:57 <crazy-tronner> digitx: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
20:57 <digitx> xD
20:57 <digitx> lool
20:57 <digitx> .at
20:57 <crazy-tronner> digitx: (at <time string>) -- Returns the number of seconds since epoch <time string> is. <time string> can be any number of natural formats; just try something and see if it will work.
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21:05 <oOk3nNy_> hey guys
21:05 <[TM]Monkey> hi
21:05 <[TM]Monkey> some of us are on arma-ladle
21:07 <epsy> .ping
21:07 <crazy-tronner> pong
21:07 <epsy> !ping
21:07 <BotSub> pong
21:07 <epsy> !delire
21:07 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
21:07 <epsy> ok
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21:48 <Monkeybutt> egg join #arma-ladle
21:48 <Monkeybutt> are u here?
21:49 <eggcozy> here
21:49 <eggcozy> its just slow ...
21:49 <Monkeybutt> goto arma-ladle egg
21:49 <Monkeybutt> then we goto ww
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22:11 <i2020> gads
22:11 <i2020> i am way late...
22:13 <luke-jr_> O.o
22:13 <i2020> looks like tm are playing...
22:13 <oOk3nNy_> hey 2020
22:13 <i2020> hi...
22:13 <oOk3nNy_> got enough players for tm alrdy`?
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> btw wheres wrtl wtf
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> cafe needs an admin!
22:14 <i2020> so... one of the servers is full of people with tm and i can't get in
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> yeah
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> we had the same probs last match
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> sp vs x
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> omega and skip both couldnt join because of joining players non stop
22:14 <oOk3nNy_> ....
22:14 <crazy-tronner> I have no idea!
22:15 <i2020> so... um... are we sticking to the challenge board as it stands?
22:15 <oOk3nNy_> think so....
22:15 <oOk3nNy_> well do u need another player for tm? i mean im free now :)
22:15 <i2020> heheh well, why are there players in ladle fortress with tm tags?
22:16 <oOk3nNy_> yeah
22:16 <oOk3nNy_> 6
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22:20 <Nixda983> fucksake
22:20 <Nixda983> fuckity fuck
22:20 <oOk3nNy_> lol?
22:20 <Nixda983> i am 2020
22:20 <Nixda983> fucking fuck fuck
22:20 <Nixda983> hehe
22:20 <Nixda983> i am locked out the server
22:20 <oOk3nNy_> who are you? :)
22:20 <Nixda983> and i have a false identity on irc
22:20 <Nixda983> i am 2020
22:21 <oOk3nNy_> xDD
22:21 <oOk3nNy_> crap
22:21 <Nixda983> i got disconnected
22:21 <oOk3nNy_> thats bad
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22:21 <Nixda983> and i can't change my nick to i2020 because... i can't
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22:21 <oOk3nNy_> heh
22:21 -!- real2020 is now known as i2020
22:21 <i2020> aha
22:21 <i2020> thanks
22:21 <i2020> can you get me into the game as well?
22:22 <i2020> hehehe
22:26 <oOk3nNy_> Xd
22:26 <oOk3nNy_> hard
22:27 <i2020> last ladle.... and i can't even watch
22:27 <oOk3nNy_> yeah
22:27 <oOk3nNy_> thats stupidi
22:27 <oOk3nNy_> why is that server so bad configurated anyway?
22:27 <oOk3nNy_> i mean
22:27 <oOk3nNy_> winzone, 16 player limit, no shuffling up, auto join.........
22:28 <oOk3nNy_> btw how long will the break last?
22:29 <i2020> well... i suppose this is the problem of a locked server... we can't even communicate with those inside
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> yeah
22:30 <i2020> i am certain we could have a better system... more flexible... and yet easier to admin
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> thats even worse
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> hmmm
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> just get them off the master server
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> make a section in the ch. board with the ip's etc
22:30 <i2020> well... then it is invisible to new players.... it's like a secret thing... numbers won't increase
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> and a small guide how to join servers without master server
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> akira_: GodTodd (hi there!) ping
22:30 <oOk3nNy_> well
22:31 <oOk3nNy_> i think its better than the chaos before....
22:31 <i2020> it has to be slightly chaotic... to provide the flexibility
22:31 <i2020> self-organised stuff will always look like that
22:32 <i2020> i would have thought the ladle has proved that players can organise themselves... and perhaps the developers could give us a little slack and provide us with things that could improve our ability to organise...
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> I would have thought you'd have figured out by now that we're working in that direction, but shit takes time, and we all have pretty active lives besides
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> now if I could borrow two eugenics kids for a few minutes....  ;)
22:34 <i2020> no... we have been stuck not by technical progress but by argument as to how best to procede
22:34 <i2020> as far as i understand
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> not at all, the whole point behind the scripting stuff is so that everyone with disagreements can implement what they think is best
22:35  * i2020 is a little annoyed and my mind might get caught up in the hidden attractor of an argument
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> then let the community pick the one that works the best :)
22:35 <luke-jr_> anyone have a P4 CPU they want to donate? :p
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> where's Your_mom when I need him?!?!?
22:35 <i2020> man... if we did the community stuff, we had the tronic spoon... which was ok but we didn't get a final
22:35 <i2020> we have 12 tronic ladles... seems stable enough
22:36 <i2020> and we still have arguments...
22:36 <i2020> pants is all i can say
22:36 <i2020> pants
22:36 <luke-jr_> underpants?
22:36 <luke-jr_> O.o
22:36 <mkzelda> pants
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think you're getting what I'm talking about
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to avoid invoking the invisible hand of the free market argument, do I really have to do that?
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> say you, me, and ed all write up our own scripts to make self-organized tournaments easier to run
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> whose are you going to use?
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> the flip side is we could wind up with 2-4 popular add-ons that all make this self-organized tournament stuff easier, but they're all incompatible with each other
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> we'll just have to see, have to get 0.3.1 out the door first
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> now, GodTodd (hi there!) akira_ (hi there!) ping
22:38 <akira_> hi
22:38 <akira_> södakncsnacd
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22:38 <Lucifer_arma> akira_: did you checkout eugenics from svn yet?
22:38 <akira_> no
22:38 <akira_> can you link me up again?
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> I just improved the network code quite a bit so that I'm almost ready to start on real game stuff
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Code
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> there's not much on that page yet, heh
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> need pyqt4 and qt4.2
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22:39 <Lucifer_arma> you said you were using feisty, right?
22:39 <akira_> ugh i didnt say anything
22:39 <akira_> :)
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what os are you using?
22:39 <akira_> win
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> done subversion checkouts before?
22:40 <i2020> you don't need to write a scdript... you need to set up the system by which players can self-organise better...
22:40 <akira_> no!
22:40 <akira_> which compiler do i need?
22:40 <i2020> eg password... spectator control... that kind of thing... not a tournament organiser
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> i2020: we're programmers, if you want something that doesn't involve code, do it
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> akira_: you need python, pyqt4, and qt4.2
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> lemme put some links on that page
22:40 <akira_> ...
22:40 <crazy-tronner> akira_, ...
22:41 <akira_> hm?
22:41 <akira_> the funny thing is
22:41 <akira_> i think we would have played better with a random team
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22:42 <akira_> than this this forced tactics and stuff
22:42 <i2020> luci... it involves a little tiny bit of coding which i can't do... hence, i can't... but i would have hoped someone would...
22:42 <i2020> after a year of ladles...
22:42 <i2020> don't worry i am just annoyed at missing this last one
22:43 <i2020> bollox bollox bollox
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22:43 <Durka> madmax|pt: we need one :D
22:43 <akira_> uhh you didnt miss much
22:43 <Durka> =/
22:44 <i2020> i missed a proper game... the last for a while...
22:44 <i2020> bollox
22:44 <akira_> no one liked center  so i had to do it and it is my weakest pos
22:44 <akira_> tetc
22:44 <Durka> we need one player...
22:44 <akira_> etc
22:44 <akira_> i jump in
22:44 <i2020> well... could i play?
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Code  <--- download links added now
22:44 <akira_> ok 2020
22:44 <akira_> go on
22:44 <i2020> depends on durka...
22:44 <Durka> er
22:44 <luke-jr_> i2020: #armalukechat
22:44 <Durka> lemme ask xD
22:44 <i2020> i suspect he wants a better player
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> akira_: there's no hurry on this if you have a game or something, I realize there's a ladle of sorts going on right now :)
22:45 <i2020> i am recording... actually i will stick with that
22:45 <Durka> ok
22:45 <akira_> nono luci
22:45 <akira_> i am annoyed with that
22:45 <i2020> i don't deserve to be in the final
22:45 <Durka> heh
22:45 <Durka> ok
22:45 <akira_> think was the last i played
22:45 <Durka> we'll play -1
22:45 <Durka> bye
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22:45 <Lucifer_arma> ko :)
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> then you also need an svn client
22:45 <akira_> ..
22:45 <crazy-tronner> Wish I knew!
22:46 <akira_> i am not into that porgramming stuff
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> are you comfortable with the console, like cmd.exe or whatever it is?
22:46 <akira_> :(
22:46 <akira_> yea
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> I need a tester right now, if you want to help test :)
22:46 <luke-jr_> ...
22:46 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's not terribly difficult to get going, since you don't have to compile anything
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> subversion offers a command line client for windows that works identically to the linux program
22:46 <akira_> ok but ill start tomorrow
22:47 <akira_> :)
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  :)
22:47 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: want me?
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's also a point-and-click svn client for windows called tortoiseSVN
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: sure, got pyqt4 installed?  ;)
22:47 <luke-jr_> no
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> in linux you just install a couple of packages
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> make sure your pyqt4 is linked against qt4.2 or later, that's all that matters
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> and python 2.4 or higher, obviously.
22:48 <luke-jr_> PyQt4 isn't available
22:48 <luke-jr_> in stable
22:48 <luke-jr_> and whoever maintains the ebuild
22:48 <luke-jr_> is an idiot
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> it might be called something else, like python-qt4 or whatever
22:48 <luke-jr_> since they've never heard of slotting
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> building from source is pretty easy, but it has to be installed in system locations
22:49 <luke-jr_> and it has some pretty stupid dependencies
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> and it definitely does so in a way that makes managing the package subsequently very difficult, if not impossible
22:49 <luke-jr_> wtf does pyqt4 want dev-python/sip?
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> it needs sip to build
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22:49 <luke-jr_> why>?
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> sip is a python bindings tool similar to swig, but python/qt specific
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's not the sip you're thinking it is ;)
22:50 <luke-jr_> that's why it requires gtk?
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> namespace collision
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> it shouldn't require gtk
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> that would be a really dumb dependency
22:50 <luke-jr_> indeed
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> unless the packager got confused
22:50 <luke-jr_> Listing /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0 ...                      [ ok ]
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> on gentoo I had to build pyqt from sources
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> and sip
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php  <--- pyqt
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/sip/index.php  <--- sp
22:51 <luke-jr_> I don't build anything from source if it's going in system paths
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> er, sip
22:51 <luke-jr_> let's see if PyQt4 ebuild works first
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  It's something like 6-8 months since I tried building the ebuild in gentoo, so maybe it'll work magically
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> at least eugenics runs from the source directory, so no installation needed :/
22:54 <epsy> .hello G5_Ger
22:54 <crazy-tronner> I don't know.
22:54 <epsy> .csezc G5_Ger
22:54 <crazy-tronner> I don't know!
22:54 <epsy> .czesc G5_Ger
22:54 <crazy-tronner> G5_Ger: epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
22:54 <epsy> .czesc G5_Ger
22:54 <epsy> .czesc G5_Ger
22:54 <epsy> .czesc G5_Ger
22:54 <crazy-tronner> G5_Ger: epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
22:54 <crazy-tronner> G5_Ger: epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
22:54 <crazy-tronner> G5_Ger: epsy wants me to tell you Hello!
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> epsy, will you cut that out?
22:54 <epsy> G5_Ger, look on #arma-ladle ....
22:55 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, do you know his ip ?
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> no?
22:55 <epsy> hmm
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> but a /whois will probably give you something
22:56 <epsy> ok it seems it's him
22:57 <epsy> cya folks
22:57 <akira_> lucifer?
22:58 <akira_> i have this svn client with context menus.. ;)
22:58 <akira_> do i create a repository or ? :)
22:59 <akira_> ah no
22:59 <akira_> import!
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22:59 <Lucifer_arma> no
22:59 <akira_> it wants a logon
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> checkout :)
22:59 <akira_> lucifer
22:59 <akira_> ah
22:59 <akira_> ...
22:59 <crazy-tronner> akira_, ...
23:00 <akira_> well i ahve no clue of these things!
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> it shouldn't want a logon for ccheckout, just for checkin
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's ok :)
23:00  * Lucifer_arma was back playing with his wife and youngest kid
23:00 <akira_> now...
23:00 <akira_> what to do :)
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> did it get everything?  You shoud have a directory full of crap now
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> with a file that says "eugenics"
23:01 <akira_> do i start the client?
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> that one probably needs to be renamed to "eugenics.py"
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> when you have python installed, you'll be able to just click the file to start it
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> do you have python ad all that other crap installed?
23:02 <akira_> yea
23:02 <luke-jr_> I must have missed the Svn URI?
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: it's on that page I linked, hang on
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Code
23:02 <luke-jr_>  - Fingerprint: 4f:92:c2:a1:82:6f:5b:f3:98:f3:fe:81:5f:57:06:ac:f5:ba:b0:88
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> it's my server, with my unregistered certificate
23:03 <akira_> bleh
23:03 <akira_> didnt find mingw
23:03 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: correct fingerprint?
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> that was one of the errors I was expecting
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: yes
23:04 <akira_> but i set a path
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.mail-archive.com/pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com/msg10708.html
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> need a path to the mingw dll
23:04 <akira_> yes
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> or you can copy the mingw dll to system32 or wherever
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's possible the mingw dll is missing from the qt installation
23:05 <akira_> yes
23:05 <akira_> it is
23:06 <akira_> noi need to get it from somewhere?
23:06 <akira_> ..
23:06 <crazy-tronner> Bugger all, I dunno.
23:06 <akira_> now*
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> er, I used to have a download link for it
23:06  * Lucifer_arma is looking for a download link
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> you *could* just install mingw
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> but that's a bit of a pain, easier to just put the dll in the qt directory
23:06 <akira_> i dont need a compiler..
23:06 <akira_> i also dont need all this script language stuff ;)
23:07 <luke-jr_> ...
23:07 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
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23:09 <Lucifer_arma> no, you don't need a compiler, you just need the dll
23:10 <akira_> i dont find a dll dl
23:11 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: PyQt4 takes too long to compile
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.dynamiclink.nl/htmfiles/rframes/info_dll/info_m/1062.htm
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I found it
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: pyqt by itself compiles in something like 5 minutes
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> sip is even smaller
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's all that braindead stuff that gentoo (the best distribution in the world...) wants
23:12 <akira_> lucifer
23:12 <akira_> that site wants 12$
23:12 <akira_> ;)
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> it does?
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> ack, nvm
23:12  * Lucifer_arma goes back to search results
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.google.com/search?q=mingwm10.dll&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.abridgegame.org/abridge.zip  <-- supposed to contain the right dll
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> where's that damn ftp archive I had that had ...
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> ah, it's for code::blocks
23:15 <akira_> yay
23:15 <akira_> russina internet
23:15 <akira_> russian
23:15 <akira_> ;)
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://download.berlios.de/codeblocks/mingwm10.7z  <--- needs 7zip to unpack
23:16 <MaZuffeR> http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?mingwm10
23:18 <akira_> now its just fooling on me..
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> ?
23:18  * Lucifer_arma hopes it
23:18  * Lucifer_arma hopes it's not saying it needs another dll
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23:20 <akira_> it does..
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> which one?
23:20  * Lucifer_arma guesses it's asking for the qt dll now
23:20 <akira_> yes..
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, you installed it, right?  from the link I gave you?
23:21 <GodTodd> wow...you're up to rev 24?
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> mom had to put the directory to it in his path variable, but my googling this time only turned up mingw references
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I commit often :)
23:22 <GodTodd> i guess :P
23:22 <GodTodd> you got a server running?
23:23 <akira_> the pyqt goes in the python dir?
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> er, not yet, lemme start it real quick
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> pyqt should install from an executable
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> and it knows how to install itself
23:24 <akira_> yes
23:24  * GodTodd guesses Lucifer_arma is looking to test stuff ;)
23:24 <akira_> but it asks for the same directory as python
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I started the server, GodTodd (hi there!)
23:24 <akira_> just
23:24 <akira_> want to know
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's supposed to go there, yes :)
23:24 <akira_> ;)
23:24 <akira_> so whre is this qtcore.dll?
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> wherever qt put it, which is something like c:\qt4.2.3\lib
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> or something like that
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did you et a message about lucifer logging in?
23:26 <akira_> my qt lacks alot then
23:26 <GodTodd> nope :/
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> akira_: I haven't installed qt in windows, so I really don't have any clue what it does
23:26 <akira_> awww this is too much for 23:30
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> all's I know is that mom managed it :)
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> ko, maybe whenever mom's here he can help you with it
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> he got it working fairly painlessly, I think
23:27 <akira_> well cya
23:27 <akira_> night :)
23:27 <GodTodd> i had it installed on this machine running XPensive...but i don't remember how i did it heh
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23:27 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> he'll get it sooner or later :)
23:27 <GodTodd> yeah
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: did I accidentally get rid of the helpful chat messages in the terminal?
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> I got the login message for you
23:28 <GodTodd> all i'm getting now is errors scrolling every once in a while
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> er, need mom here, he was getting pretty bad chunk loss and that's what I really want to test
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> that exception about the float?
23:29 <GodTodd> yeah...
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet if you uninstall pyqt4 and then install it from source that'll go away
23:29 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: 5 mins on what CPU?
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't tested yet, but I suspect it's a bug that's been fixed in later versions than what kubuntu has
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: 900mhz duron
23:29 <luke-jr_> haha
23:30 <luke-jr_> what exactly in Gentoo's ebuild makes it take longer then?
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> gtk?
23:30 <luke-jr_> gtk isn't in the PyQt4 ebuild
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe it's building qt again, which does take along time
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> pyqt is quick, it's just some wrappers
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23:30 <luke-jr_> Qt wouldn't be in the PyQt4 ebuidl either
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> man, I don't know.  I've built pyqt4 quite a few times and it doesn't take long
23:31 <luke-jr_> so anyhow
23:31 <luke-jr_> what do I do
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> you have it running?
23:31 <luke-jr_> yes
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> after you checkout the source for eugenics, go to Game->Network game
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> put in a username, the host is www.davefancella.com
23:31 <luke-jr_> I guessed that much
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> same port
23:32 <luke-jr_> now what??
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> hit ok?
23:32 <luke-jr_> I did
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> wait for it to timeout?
23:32 <luke-jr_> 2 trackbacks so far
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see a message saying you logged in
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, tracebacks
23:32 <luke-jr_> trace*
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> and they say something like "bad dns resolution" or something like that?
23:33 <luke-jr_> TypeError: unsubscriptable object
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> you have to restart the client after every attempt
23:33 <luke-jr_> http://rafb.net/p/EGupwe91.html
23:34 <luke-jr_> Ctrl-C isn't killing it :(
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> no, it doesn't
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> I'll fix that sometime, but there's a thread it's not getting
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> aha, now I see you
23:34 <luke-jr_> I restarted it
23:34 <luke-jr_> my guess is the first Cancel broke something
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it probably did
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: say something :)
23:37 <GodTodd> sorry...needed to wrestle the boys a bit ;)
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> no, say something in eugenics :)
23:38 <GodTodd> i did
23:39 <GodTodd> this is what's on my screen:
23:39 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:39 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yes
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> wow, you actually did see shit
23:39 <GodTodd> yeah
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> so... what's the difference?
23:40 <GodTodd> between?
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> chat events and server message events
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> and why you got a chat event this time
23:40 <GodTodd> dunno
23:40 <GodTodd> still getting:
23:40 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:40 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:40 <GodTodd> bah
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: but a login and a sentence last thing I saw
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> you're just getting that over and over?
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:41 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:41 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:42 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: stfu
23:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> no kidding, we get the point
23:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
23:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> Luke-Jr has logged in.
23:42 <GodTodd> Lucifer: do you see me?
23:42 <GodTodd> grrr
23:43  * luke-jr_ smacks GodTodd
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23:43 <luke-jr_> maybe your internet is the problem
23:43 <GodTodd> Original exception was:
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: I'd be willing to look at what you come up with, but I'm not willing to introduce dependencies
23:43 <GodTodd> Traceback (most recent call last):
23:43 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/mainqt.py", line 163, in chatShow
23:43 <GodTodd>     self.consoleView.append(theEvent.user + ": " + theEvent.message)
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> if I were, I'd have used twisted
23:43 <GodTodd> AttributeError: 'float' object has no attribute 'user'
23:43 <GodTodd> still getting that ^
23:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: why twisted?
23:44 <GodTodd> sorry...had stuck keys
23:44 <GodTodd> didn't mean to offend :P
23:44 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: kindly fuck off
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> because that's what it's for, building network protocols
23:44 <GodTodd> :)
23:44 <i2020> bit of a mess this time...
23:44 <i2020> bye
23:44 <madmax|pt> who won?
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23:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: so you'd want something that could be included as a .py
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm killing the server now
23:45 <mkzelda> grats x
23:45 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: lots of traceback spam
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I expected you to get that same error, but I'm confuzzled as to how you got some messages received
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: error-checking is thinner than Ali McBeal right now
23:46 <luke-jr_> jabberpy was last changed 5 yrs ago :O
23:46 <luke-jr_> 4*
23:46 <GodTodd> yeah...that has me scratching my head too....tho that could be the lice luke-jr_ gave me ;)
23:47 <luke-jr_> 2 weeks for xmpppy
23:48 <luke-jr_> 3 weeks for pyxmpp
23:48 <luke-jr_> so there's 2 maintained XMPP libs
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> you saw akira trying to get enough stuff up and running, right?
23:48 <luke-jr_> ?
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> it's a pain in windows, pyqt has always been a pain in windows
23:49 <luke-jr_> so provide a real distribution of stuff :p
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's a big enough dependency
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> well then there's something worth distributing :)
23:50 <madmax|pt> is there anyone here that worked with yacc?
23:50 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: subversion supports external dirs
23:50 <luke-jr_> madmax|pt: BISON
23:51 <madmax|pt> heh, I have to use yacc atm, so no
23:51 <madmax|pt> well, byacc
23:51 <luke-jr_> madmax|pt: yacc is somewhat obsolete
23:51 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: pyxmpp uses Trac and therefore probably Svn
23:51 <luke-jr_> so could just have a svn checkout pull it
23:55 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you do realize most Python libraries don't begin with 'lib'?
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> yes, I realize that
23:59 <Durka> madmax|pt: It was 7 vs 4 :(
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> but I intend these libraries to install to /usr/local/lib
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> I just haven't added the full-blown path initialization stuff yet

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00:00 <Lucifer_arma> so, thinking about it, I'm not sure the groundwork is there to try plugging in another network library yet
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> the server is pretty thin because I've focused on the protocol, so it doesn't even match up connections with players yet
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> that's next on my list, after filling out error-checking
00:01 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: why not install to the standard Python lib dirs?
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> because those are a pain to clean
00:01 <_Sticky_> thank you very much to z-man for admining, hope the compaining wasnt too much
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00:02 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: is the dependency ok if it works with the instructions you gave akira?
00:02 <luke-jr_> I have my 'svn up' in your dir pulling in pyxmpp automatically ;)
00:02 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, the distribution in *windows* is going to ultimately be built with py2exe
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> so the dependency is going to be a problem for people not on windows
00:03 <luke-jr_> only if their distro sucks?
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:03 <luke-jr_> and you/we don't include it
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'd really prefer it be something that can be included in the source release so there's no dependency
00:03 <luke-jr_> it could be
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> see, I want the server to have only python as it's dependency and nothing else
00:03 <luke-jr_> but that'd annoy me if I were installing it :p
00:04 <_Sticky_> whats the dep? py2exe?
00:04 <luke-jr_> better to include the pyxmpp lib in the source than to write pyxmpp from scratch in a non-compatible way
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> I want the ais to have only python as a dependency (the current plan is for them to be implemented as clients and to take turns like humans)
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> I want the client I write for players to have only python and pyqt as dependencies
00:05 <luke-jr_> then include pyxmpp in the source releases
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm willing to bend that rule only if sound is needed and pyqt doesn't provide enough for that
00:05 <luke-jr_> I don't like sound in civ anyway
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> also, I might be willing to bend that rule later on as needs show it to be bad
00:05 <Lucifer_arma> what I'm really trying to avoid *right now* is the more common problem of starting a new project and laying on a bunch of dependencies :)
00:06 <luke-jr_> so you'd prefer to rewrite those would-be dependencies?
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what it is :)
00:07 <luke-jr_> networking :p
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not going to pretend I know everything there is to know about xmpp, but I did look into python xmpp libraries a few months ago and ruled them all out of any useful application
00:07 <luke-jr_> http://pyxmpp.jajcus.net/
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> so if you really think I should be using it, you'll have to give me the code :)
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, I've got a network layer now that should work, and there's no xmpp library that will remove the additional work that's still needed on it
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> because the core protocol is constructed
00:08 <luke-jr_> it provides virtually any networking elements you should need, in a standards-compliant way :p
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> only we have the basics we need now, that's what we were testing :)
00:09 <luke-jr_> and wasn't working
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  what didn't work?
00:09 <luke-jr_> hm, I suppose libxml2 isn't acceptable as a dep either?
00:09 <luke-jr_> GodTodd:
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> the traceback spam you got when I killed the server was lack of error-checking that would need to be done anyway with any third-party library
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd's problem is in the qt code specifically
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's a problem with the signal/slot mechanism that propogates already-decoded and parsed network messages to the gui
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> libxml2 isn't needed as a dep, core python has a good enough dom-compliant xml parser
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> basically, godtodd's problem is that I'm emitting a python object in a signal, and the slot receives a float
00:11 <Lucifer_arma> we're probably seeing a pyqt bug
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00:12 <Lucifer_arma> there is one thiing planned for the network that a third-party library could give us, which is file transfer
00:15 <luke-jr_> xmpppy seems to use simplexml
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> man, core python does a wonderful job parsing xml
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> you have minidom, and then you have a sax api
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> I'm really getting into minidom right now, since i used it for acme
00:16 <luke-jr_> simplexml is sax?
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> beats me, never heard of it before.  But the sax parser you get by default with python uses expat
00:17 <luke-jr_>   - if you don't like python installator - just copy xmpp directory into python's
00:17 <luke-jr_>     site-packages directory (this is what setup.py does).
00:17 <luke-jr_>   - If you have no intention to install library system-wide (or just have no
00:17 <luke-jr_>     privileges to do it) you can copy xmpp directory just in your application's
00:17 <luke-jr_>     directory. Example:
00:17 <luke-jr_> ah, simplexml is part of xmpppy
00:17 <luke-jr_> uses xml.parsers.expat
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> ah
00:18 <luke-jr_> however, it is GPL
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> we do need to be able to send arbitrarily complex xml data, if xml is what the messages get encoded to (they don't right now, they use a smtp-like encoding)
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I need to go document what I've done so far
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> you'll be able to get a better idea how to plug in a third-party library when I've documented what's there now :)
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> (and maybe an understanding why the network layer is on it's third revision already)
00:24 <luke-jr_> hrm
00:24 <luke-jr_> does Python lack DNS? :p
00:26 <luke-jr_> oh well, at least that's an optional requirement
00:26 <luke-jr_> well
00:26 <luke-jr_> sortof
00:26 <luke-jr_> required for spec compliance, but not for most real-world cases
00:27 <luke-jr_> boo
00:27 <luke-jr_> while True:
00:27 <luke-jr_>     time.sleep(0.2)
00:27 <luke-jr_> that's stupid
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00:32 <Lucifer_arma> haha
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> I see you've found the main game loop
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> replace time.sleep() with pass and watch your cpu usage skyrocket
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> I think an app that kicks on my fans has to have a damn good reason, and looping endlessly isn't a good reason
00:35 <luke-jr_> who said looping endlessly?
00:35 <luke-jr_> I think a thread that does nothing is stupid
00:35 <luke-jr_> whether looping endlessly or looping over a sleep
00:36 <luke-jr_> unixserver.serve_forever()
00:36 <luke-jr_> that's how my server's main thread ends
00:36 <luke-jr_> "ends"
00:40 <_Sticky_> .tea
00:40 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): åppåqitiøn, bam, Ðúrkå	CuRbSidE, G5, Lackadaisical, madmax, MaZuffeR, NEUROMANCER, pinky, Rogue, Shazam, Zop, ~*k3nNy*~, ~*SP*~ Omega
00:41 <_Sticky_> .lastseen Rico
00:41 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: ¦×¥Rico has last been seen on Z-Man's Tournament Fortress, Tornament going on. 59 minutes ago.
00:47 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: don't like exceptions?
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> ah, you're making assumptions that aren't true
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> the reason it's looping endlessly is because that's the main game loop, and nothing has been written that's actual game logic yet
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> that loop won't be endless, and will do a lot of work
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> the time.sleep() call is just a placeholder
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> and I only like exceptions for fatal errors
00:49 <luke-jr_> aha
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> if the error is non-fatal, I prefer to use return values to propogate errors
00:50 <luke-jr_>         print "ConnectionManager::RunLoopBack not implemented"
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> I'll use exceptions when I need the non-fatal error propogated up several layers
00:50 <luke-jr_>                 raise NotImplementedError
00:50 <_Sticky_> .tea
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> ah, those not being implemented aren't fatal errors :)
00:50 <crazy-tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): åopåritiøm, bam, Ðûqkå, G5, Lackadaisical, madmax, MaZuffeR, pinky, Rogue, Shazam, Zop, ~*SP*~ Omega, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, °¯AshitakA, °°Lanta
00:50 <luke-jr_> no?
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, some of them are fatal errors if not implemented and need to raise the appropriate exception, they just don't
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> I said error-checking was thin :)
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I think I just documented the network layer pretty well, but I could be wrong
00:51 <luke-jr_> ok
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Network_Protocol
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I even pointed out the piece of groundwork on the server that's missing in order to plug in any arbitrary third-party library
00:52 <luke-jr_> ...
00:52 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
00:52 <luke-jr_> that's protocol?
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> as much as is needed.  The whole point of the nMessageBase objects is that they abstract the actual encoding so that higher level layers don't need it
00:52 <luke-jr_> but I don't see any actual API docs
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> and there are only three message types right now
00:52 <luke-jr_> eg, what objects and functions I need to implement
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> you'll have to go to code for that, because api docs aren't written yet
00:53 <luke-jr_> code doesn't say what's private or public
00:53 <luke-jr_> in Python
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> it's mostly obvious right now, but before I move on to the rest of the game, I intend to go in and provide api docs
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> there's a convention I follow that's very common in python code
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> if a method starts with _, it's considered a friend relationship
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> some classes will call it publicly, but it should be considered private except for special cases
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> if it starts with __, it's private
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> if it starts with a capital letter, it's public
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> and you'll find this convention very common in third-party python code, if not in the python standard library
00:54 <luke-jr_> I don't see anything with a capital letter
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to use accessors for instance members, so anything that's not a method should be considered off-limits unless you created it
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> (like the server does with nSocket.isKnown)
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> right now, if it says Not IMplemented yet, that's expected to be in a subclass, but won't always be true
00:56 <luke-jr_> why don't you use Python's server classes?
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> look at the docs for them
00:57 <luke-jr_> ... done a while ago
00:57 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
00:57 <luke-jr_> they work fairly well from my own use
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> they do, but they're fairly limited
00:57 <luke-jr_> you're supposed to subclass them
00:58 <luke-jr_> well
00:58 <luke-jr_> not the server itself
00:58 <luke-jr_> that doesn't need subclassing
00:58 <luke-jr_> but the handlers, of course
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> the amount of work required to get it to do something useful is about the same as was required for me to do what I'e done
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> the difference being that what I've got now is customized for the application
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> where I'd still have to customize for the application
00:59 <luke-jr_> it takes care of accepting connections
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> I've used the server classes before and found nothing but headache
00:59 <luke-jr_> unixserver = SocketServer.ThreadingUnixStreamServer(socketfile, ReqHandler)
00:59 <luke-jr_> that was the most I had to do to make a server with it
01:00 <luke-jr_> obviously after defining my handler
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've had nothing but headache, so I went this route
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm happy with it :)
01:00 <luke-jr_> is chunk.py used? O.o
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> and this is all the patience I have for discussing decisions already made
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> yes, chunk.py is used
01:01 <luke-jr_> hm, I just deleted it and ran the server with no complaints
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's wehre chunk.encode and chunk.decode are, used by nSocket to do what they do
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> obviously the server didn't need to encode/decode anything :)
01:01 <luke-jr_> but shouldn't it still fail on an import?
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> only if something that was imported imports it
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> it's imported in connection.py
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> connection.py contains nSocket
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> which *should* be imported somewhere else
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> connection_manager also imports it
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> yay, we're on a severe thunderstorm watch
01:07 <luke-jr_> blah, why does __init__ begin the listening?
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> the listening starts in StartRun
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> __init__ just does the binding
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> if the network layer can't bind, that's a fatal error, and I'd rather know about that before the thread is started
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it's in __init__
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> StartRun is after the thread has started and is run in the new thread
01:25 <luke-jr_> what is 'owner'?
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> depends on context, which object is it in?
01:26 <luke-jr_> network/*'s __init__
01:27 <luke-jr_> why aren't you using Python's nice logging framework? :P
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> because I have my own I want to plug in that I like better :)
01:28 <luke-jr_> :p
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> my own hasn't been extended yet to support syslog and stuff, but will
01:28 <luke-jr_> Python's doesn't
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> if python's supports those (which last I checked, it didn't), then I'd use it
01:28 <luke-jr_> and they won't merge my patch for it
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> I want to support the nt event logs, too
01:28 <luke-jr_> it only supports *remote* SysLog
01:28 <luke-jr_> AFAIK, Python's supports NT event logs
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> when the server's running as a daemon, it should work like a windows service
01:29 <luke-jr_> NTEventLogHandler instances send error messages to a Windows NT/2000/XP event log.
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I'll take another look at it
01:29 <luke-jr_> SysLogHandler instances send error messages to a Unix syslog daemon, possibly on a remote machine.
01:29 <luke-jr_> they say that
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> not ready to add logging, but it's soon
01:29 <luke-jr_> but it sends them to a syslog daemon ONLY on a remote machine :p
01:29 <luke-jr_> it won't use the syscall, only network sockets
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> tried saying localhost?  ;)
01:29 <luke-jr_> metalog doesn't do sockets
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, it doesn't support *your* syslog daemon
01:30  * Lucifer_arma wonders what he's got for a syslog daemon
01:30 <luke-jr_> it doesn't support standard local syslogging
01:30 <luke-jr_> via the syscall
01:30 <luke-jr_> localhost would still be over the network, even if it's lo
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm curious how much syslogging will be useful in the end, but if there's even one message generated that belongs there, I want to support it
01:31 <luke-jr_> all the 'print' stuff IMO belongs to logging
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> it needs a dual interface, actually
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> when running as a daemon, it needs to log
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> when run interactively, it needs to print
01:31 <luke-jr_> hm
01:31 <luke-jr_> StartRun doesn't seem to be called :(
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> um, it is?
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> if it wasn't called, the server wouldn't work at all
01:32 <luke-jr_> well
01:32 <luke-jr_> I mean from outside 'network'
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> nothing outside network is supposed to call it
01:32 <luke-jr_> ...
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> you call start() to start it
01:32 <luke-jr_> Network.start()
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01:32 <luke-jr_> where is that defined
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> because it's a threading.Thread subclass
01:32 <luke-jr_> aha
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> .start() is defined in threading.Thread :)
01:32 <luke-jr_> right
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01:35 <luke-jr_> so what's 'owner' again?
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> which class?
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> it's not in network/__init__.py
01:36 <luke-jr_> nNetwrokManager.__init__
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's a proxy object of sorts
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> depends on client and server what it does
01:36 <luke-jr_> ...
01:36 <crazy-tronner`> luke-jr_, ...
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> the one for the server isn't yet written
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not entirely sure what the one on the server will do, but it will probably be the owner of the simulation
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> the one on the client is where the player's manager will live, and the GUI has to provide a second proxy object to connect to it
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> ais will provide a different second proxy object, obviously
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> as far as the server's concerned, the client required a separate owner to allow the framework I wanted on the client, and the server had to accept it to unite the network code
01:39 <luke-jr_> hm
01:39 <luke-jr_> my IM server seems to only work with IPv6
01:39 <luke-jr_> interesting that I never noticed it until now
01:39 <luke-jr_> (apparently Python doesn't O.o)
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> python sockets are supposed to support both IPv4 and IPv6
01:40 <luke-jr_> maybe it's the DNS library
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01:40 <luke-jr_> tho
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01:40 <luke-jr_> maybe it's xmpppy using the DNS library longer than it should
01:42 <luke-jr_> odd
01:42 <luke-jr_> IM server claims to be listening on IPv4
01:44 <luke-jr_> nope :/
01:44 <luke-jr_> re xmpppy using DNS too long that is
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01:56 <DrJoeTron> are the weirdos still acting like weirdos?
01:56 <_Sticky_> wobrehwarughfdspfauihg
01:57 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma are you going to get planet puzzle league?
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02:06 <Lucifer_arma> hey, mom's here
02:08 <GodTodd> hi mom
02:10 <GodTodd> blah...guess i can't run the server in order to test :P
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?
02:14 <GodTodd> got errors and it kicked back to the term prompt
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> you can, you just need to change a line of code that's currently hardcoded to my internal ip address
02:14 <GodTodd> ahhh
02:14 <GodTodd> heh
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> line 45 in network_manager.py
02:14 <GodTodd> that explains this part:
02:14 <GodTodd> File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenics/network/network_manager.py", line 45, in __init__
02:14 <GodTodd>     self.__theSocket.bind( ( "192.168.1.103", 3400 ) )
02:14 <GodTodd> ;)
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> if you figure out how to make it unquestionably open to outside connections, please let me know
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> the docs say to use socket.gethostname() to do that, and it didn't work (which you noticed)
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02:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: poke
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: peek
02:19 <luke-jr_> can you auth me on IM?
02:19 <luke-jr_> and try IMing me
02:19 <luke-jr_> to see where it goes
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, sorry
02:20 <luke-jr_> -.-
02:20 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron:
02:20 <luke-jr_> you try IMing me
02:21 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: got IM?
02:21 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron:  planet puzzle league?
02:22 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:22 <luke-jr_> .......
02:22 <crazy-tronner> Dunno.
02:22 <DrJoeTron> its gotten great reviews
02:22 <DrJoeTron> its like tetris attack
02:22 <DrJoeTron> I'm going to pick it up when i finally finish pokeyman
02:22 <Your_mom_arma> gba game?
02:23 <DrJoeTron> DS game
02:23 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma http://ds.ign.com/articles/793/793768p1.html
02:25 <Your_mom_arma> meh, doesn't look that interesting
02:25 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: yes, i have various means of instant messaging
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: you kicking?
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02:30 <Lucifer_arma> grrr
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only getting localhost addresses to show up
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell am I supposed to get what's on the other network interfaces?
02:39 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: ''
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: can you connect to my server?
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> oh good
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'll commit that
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> can you see me chat?
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> just killed the server
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> if you do svn update you'll get a fix that lets the server listen on all interfaces
02:47 <GodTodd> k
02:47 <GodTodd> updated
02:48 <GodTodd> server works now :)
02:48 <GodTodd> shows the login
02:49 <GodTodd> still no gui chatting tho :P
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> try building pyqt from source and see what happens
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a do that on my kubuntu box right now
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03:10 <Lucifer_bed> started building pyqt at 8:10
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03:14 <GodTodd> where do i get pyqt to build it?
03:14 <GodTodd> trolltech site?
03:14 <Lucifer_bed> http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php
03:14 <Lucifer_bed> you'll also need sip from the same site
03:15 <Lucifer_bed> and you'll probably break pyqt3 if you have it installed
03:15 <Lucifer_bed> wow, 8:16 and still building
03:15 <Lucifer_bed> maybe it takes a little longer than I remembered it taking
03:16 <GodTodd> doing the tarball or the snapshot?
03:16 <Lucifer_bed> tarball
03:17 <GodTodd> k
03:18 <Lucifer_bed> starting up a pyqt3 build too, because my alarm clock depends on it
03:18 <Lucifer_bed> and I've just broken it
03:19 <Lucifer_bed> hey, it still works
03:19 <Lucifer_bed> maybe I don't need to rebuilt pyqt3
03:21 <Lucifer_bed> fine, it's been 12 minutes and it's still building
03:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_bed: hey
03:24 <luke-jr_> how do you cast objects in Python?
03:24 <Lucifer_bed> cast?
03:24 <luke-jr_> yeah
03:24  * Lucifer_bed casts an object
03:25 <luke-jr_> if I have a thing that thinks its a parent class
03:25 <Lucifer_bed> um, put it on a fishhook?
03:25 <luke-jr_> how do I treat it as a subclass?
03:25 <Lucifer_bed> er, not sure what you're after as far as python goes
03:25 <Lucifer_bed> all methods are virtual in python
03:25 <luke-jr_> MISMATCH <xmpp.client.Client instance at 0x2aae5235b440> VS <xmpp.dispatcher.Dispatcher instance at 0x2aae52387908>
03:25 <luke-jr_> those are supposed to be the same object
03:25 <Lucifer_bed> what's hard is calling the baseclass's version
03:25 <luke-jr_> I think
03:26 <GodTodd> Error: Make sure you have a working Qt v4 qmake on your PATH
03:26 <GodTodd> how do i fix this
03:26 <GodTodd> heh
03:26 <GodTodd> i know i have a working qt4
03:27 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_bed: btw, to fix Ctrl-C
03:27 <luke-jr_>         self.setDaemon(True)
03:27 <luke-jr_> in your Thread subclass
03:27 <Lucifer_bed> install the dev packages
03:27 <luke-jr_> causes that thread to self-terminate when all non-daemon threads go away
03:27 <GodTodd> i did
03:27 <Lucifer_bed> luke-jr_: that's not exactly what I want, I need regular signal handling
03:28 <Lucifer_bed> GodTodd: try again and make sure they're all there
03:28 <Lucifer_bed> then pass "-q /usr/share/qt4" to configure.py
03:31 <Lucifer_bed> wow, what do I normally do when I build pyqt4 that makes me think it only takes 5 minutes?
03:31 <Lucifer_bed> screw my wife?
03:31 <luke-jr_> lol
03:32 <luke-jr_> fyi, eugenics@dashjr.org is my new Eugenics test accountr
03:34  * GodTodd fills out some webforms with a new email address.
03:34 <Lucifer_bed> haha
03:34 <luke-jr_> good thing there's no email there
03:35 <Lucifer_bed> it's a jabber account
03:35 <GodTodd> ahhh ok...i'll spread it around irc rooms then
03:35 <GodTodd> :)
03:35 <Lucifer_bed> no, don't do that
03:35 <Lucifer_bed> if we wind up using his xmpp network stuff, he might want to keep it :)
03:35 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:36 <Lucifer_bed> of course, if we don't, go paint the town with it
03:36 <GodTodd> i grabbed everything that was pyqt4 in synaptic
03:36 <GodTodd> still not able to run configure.py
03:36 <Lucifer_bed> that's because you were supposed to grab just qt4 stuff
03:37 <Lucifer_bed> I asked for the Skippy and you brought back Jif
03:37 <Lucifer_bed> now go back for the Skippy
03:37 <GodTodd> i don't like skippy tho
03:48 <Lucifer_bed> ok, its 8:49 and it finished building
03:48 <Lucifer_bed> this is on a 2.8ghz p4
03:49 <Lucifer_bed> GodTodd: works
03:50 <luke-jr_> total time?
03:50 <Lucifer_bed> 39 minutes
03:51 <GodTodd> k...i'm getting the rest of the jif
03:51 <Lucifer_bed> good, now I know I can ignore ubuntu :)
03:51 <Lucifer_bed> just have to hope they release an updated pyqt4
03:51 <luke-jr_> lol
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03:55 <Lucifer_arma> luckily, I also know that building pyqt4 on kubuntu doesn't break pyqt3
03:55 <Lucifer_arma> so I won't feel guilty telling people to do that
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> wow, there's 5 bad weather warnings for us now
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04:08 <GodTodd> building at 9:09
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> yay, no more exception spam when a socket dies on the server
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> ok fine, I did the setDaemon trick
04:14 <luke-jr_> :p
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not happy about it, but I'd rather be able to ctrl-C in the meantime
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, now what?
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, client work
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> client needs to be able to cancel the dialog and still be able to create a connection
04:16 <luke-jr_> indeed
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> leave one connection and join another, etc
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> cool.  now clients get notified when a user leaves
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's not perfect, the logout command isn't working
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04:18 <luke-jr_> grr
04:18 <GodTodd> so...once this builds, the gui chat should work?
04:18 <luke-jr_> is there a way to get a traceback within a try statement?
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, not really, luke-jr_ (hi there!)
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> at least, not that I know of
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> check the traceback module
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yes
04:25 <luke-jr_> well, I just got eugenics@ to auto-authorize on request
04:25 <luke-jr_> so it can appear online :)
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> er, I don't have a disconnect button!
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> haha
04:25 <luke-jr_> lol
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> "Once you enter here, you can never leave!"
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, cancel works anyway
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I remember how I wanted to handle it
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> the Network Game option should change to read "Exit server"
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> er, it almost works
04:34 <GodTodd> cool :) chat works now
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm totally confused on when the client is releasing the socket
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> rather, it's not, and that's the problem
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, I need to removesocket on the client side, and I'm not doing that at all!
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> yay
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> a little svn update would make you very happy
04:39 <luke-jr_> ?
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> maybe not you, luke-jr_ (hi there!) , depends on how much you've hacked the network stuff
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> but the server now handles drops well, but it doesn't handle logout for some reason
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> client should handle drops well, I haven't tried breaking the server while the client's connected yet
04:39  * Lucifer_arma tries it
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, client needs a fix still
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> ok, client survives a server quit
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> but since there's no pinging yet to see if the connections are still alive, there may be irregularities like if the server crashes or something
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> tcp is supposed to handle that, though
04:49  * Lucifer_arma is curious how long it would take the server to notice if it didn't have anything to say to the client for awhile and the cliet had disappeared
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> .monologue
04:49 <crazy-tronner> Lucifer_arma: Your current monologue is at least 10 lines long.
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: ping
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: pin
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> g
04:50 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: there is no timeout unless there is data trying to send
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> the answer is that I started up a eugenics server at the same bat place, and I'd like you guys to do svn update and connect and see if your chat disappears at all
04:50 <luke-jr_> so it could continue indefinately
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: that's what I'm thinking.  I think I'll probably add somethiing to nSocket that keeps track of when the last message was sent, and add to the select poll something that checks and pings as needed
04:52 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: pon
04:52 <GodTodd> g
04:54 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: hmm
04:54 <luke-jr_> why not make this p2p? :p
04:56 <luke-jr_> since AIs would just be clients...
05:00 <Your_mom_arma> pong
05:03 <Your_mom_arma> am I in the server?
05:03 <luke-jr_> no
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> um, I saw you in there
05:04 <luke-jr_> Your_mom: anyone here?
05:04 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: ...
05:04 <luke-jr_> luke-jr: just lost 2 msgs
05:04 <luke-jr_> Lucifer has logged in.
05:04 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: any reason this can't be p2p?
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> you tried setting up glob2 for network play, didn't you?
05:05 <luke-jr_> so?
05:05 <luke-jr_> glob2 was UDP
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> also, cheating
05:05 <luke-jr_> or at best TCP
05:05 <luke-jr_> how can there be cheating if every client enforces the shared rules?
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> now, I do want a feature where clients can run one or two ais, which would be a cheating vector
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> so it would only be recommended in a trusted group
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> because, luke-jr_ (hi there!) , the game is open source, meaning anyone can hack their client
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> here's a situation:
05:06 <luke-jr_> any it would only effect their client...
05:06 <luke-jr_> and*
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> I mod the ai and my client so it always fires up the ai, and then make it so that my game client can see everything the ai can see
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> with a little backend connection between the two, the ai client just relays messages (and acts on them on its own of course)
05:07 <luke-jr_> so? anyone could mod their AI-client to not report itself as AI
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> also, where would combat be resolved?
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> yes, but if all the ais run on the server, which will be the recommended configuration when you're in a group with someone untrusted, then it doesn't matter
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> because that ai never gets started
05:08 <luke-jr_> you never know if it gets started
05:08 <luke-jr_> if it just appears as another player
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's a cheating vector freeciv has already :)
05:09 <luke-jr_> indeed
05:09 <luke-jr_> and there's nothing you can do about it, really
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> other than check connections from the same ip address and limit accordingly
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's still not a perfect fix
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> hey,w e should have this conversation on the server so we can test it
05:13 <luke-jr_> anyhow, p2p doesn't change any of those problems
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: ping
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> .ping
05:21 <crazy-tronner> pong
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> .poing
05:21 <crazy-tronner> Wish I knew!
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> .piong
05:22 <crazy-tronner> Dunno!
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05:36 <epsy> hi
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> hi
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I like how the client doesn't tell you the network connection is broken
05:47 <epsy> uh ?
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> neat, python provides a queue class
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> does someone want to write a script that'll convert freeciv civilizations to xml for eugenics to use?
06:00  * Lucifer_arma thinks we should use svg for all graphics, since it can be sent over the network easily compared to binary file formats
06:02 <mkzelda> anyone play nexuiz here?
06:03 <epsy> mkzelda, why not
06:03 <mkzelda> u do?
06:03 <epsy> but i have to figure i'm really using 2.3
06:03 <epsy> wait
06:03 <epsy> i'm reading eh ct forums
06:03 <mkzelda> ive tried 2.3 on three different connections, 6 different pc's and i cant figure out how to run a server and connect to it
06:03 <mkzelda> i mean... i cant connect to any of them
06:03 <epsy> double click ?
06:03 <mkzelda> all behind firewalls, all seemingly forwarded correctly
06:03 <mkzelda> cant connect to them
06:04 <epsy> Oo
06:04 <mkzelda> Interesting ports on cpe-066-026-054-194.nc.res.rr.com (66.26.54.194):
06:04 <mkzelda> PORT      STATE         SERVICE
06:04 <mkzelda> 26000/udp open|filtered quake
06:04 <mkzelda> should be good
06:05 <mkzelda> how do you connect to a server besides starting a game, opening the console and typing 'connect ip'
06:05 <epsy> errr...i'm using the menu :P
06:05 <mkzelda> i mean, one not in the master list
06:05 <epsy> hmm
06:05 <mkzelda> ive got some friends who would not last on a public server
06:06 <mkzelda> we're just tryin to noob it in a private server
06:06 <mkzelda> i did find a public one i have a 20ms ping w/ :)
06:08 <epsy> lol
06:08 <mkzelda> Interesting ports on c-71-205-81-171.hsd1.mi.comcast.net (71.205.81.171):
06:08 <mkzelda> PORT      STATE         SERVICE
06:08 <mkzelda> 26000/udp open|filtered quake
06:08 <mkzelda> :/
06:08 <mkzelda> this should work
06:09 <mkzelda> hrm, i wonder if talk_to_master 0 (whatever they call it) makes it stop listening on the public address
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:09  * Lucifer_arma just tore out a bunch of hair to figure out how to get a python socket to listen on the public address
06:10 <mkzelda> heh
06:10 <mkzelda> im willing to bet that must be the prob
06:10 <mkzelda> it makes no sense otherwise
06:10 <mkzelda> 3 hosts with properly opened ports all unable to interconnect in any combo
06:16 <mkzelda> hrm one combo yields a diff result...
06:16 <mkzelda> client connects but gets nothing but ->client to server "keepalive" <--server to client "keepalive"
06:18 <epsy> mkzelda, can you start a server ?
06:18 <epsy> i'ill try connection
06:18 <epsy> *-o
06:19 <epsy> *+g
06:19 <epsy> hmm
06:19 <epsy> i don't know how to toggle cursor retention
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> same way you toggle anal retention--by eating a lot of cheese
06:25 <mkzelda> i have servers running on multiple hosts
06:25 <mkzelda> the 2 i just pasted here...
06:26 <mkzelda> 66.26.54.194, 71.205.81.171, and myself (but down atm)
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06:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> any suggestions when the player object should be created?  ;)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> choices are "immediately on login, in the network layer" and "in the game loop"
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> ah, er, nvm
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07:11 <mkzelda> got it working via the pre-compiled binaries
07:12 <mkzelda> dunno why mine dont work, but mine are unable to exec .cfg files
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> another gentoo problem solved by using a packaged binary
07:13  * Lucifer_arma quietly ignores the ubuntu problem he just solved by building from source
07:19 <mkzelda> lol
07:19 <mkzelda> actually i still get same problem
07:19 <mkzelda> epsy: u around?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> [23:52] <-- epsy has left this server ("09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎÃ).
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, doxygen has native support for python
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> it didn't used to, and I really dislike python's doc system
07:25  * Lucifer_arma considers setting up a doxy file real quick
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm coining a new phrase someone probably already coined
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> Programmer's Block
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> I've got Programmer's Block
07:38 <mkzelda> oh thanks luci, i hide parts/joins and sometimes forget to look at the nicklist
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's not a bad idea, but then I'd never know when people part/join
07:39 <mkzelda> i used to divert them to a seperate, custom window
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'd prefer something that collects multiple parts altogether in one line
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> and multiple joins
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> or if it would just catch netsplits somehow, you know?
07:40 <mkzelda> i dont quite understand
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> what I really need is to figure out how the server's supposed to loop during the waiting room time and switch to the game time, and then how it's supposed to loop then
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> join/part messages are only annoying in two instances, one being a net split, in which case you could have like 20 users all with a part message
07:41 <mkzelda> i havent used windows in about 5 years, but i used to do a lot of mirc scriping, completely re-wrote every bit of netcode
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> the other is when it's Vanhayes and his shitty internet connection where's he keeps dropping and stuff
07:41 <mkzelda> i know how to do that real easy w/ mirc right now
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> konversation?
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
07:41 <mkzelda> im using konversation now
07:42 <mkzelda> and i just looked into scripting a few days ago
07:42 <mkzelda> u just call any .pl or .sh
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> konversation doesn't have scripting, does it?
07:42 <mkzelda> yea
07:42 <mkzelda> it just uses any python or perl or shell script
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> perl or shell?  I could probably use that shell to throw on a python script
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I don't think I want to get busy on my irc client, heh
07:43 <mkzelda> that doesnt help me tho, cause it doesnt allow me to do a lot of what i wanted to do
07:43 <mkzelda> i wrote an http server in mirc script :D
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:44 <mkzelda> not that i want to again, but that was very simple
07:44 <mkzelda> i made mirc into a mud client
07:44 <mkzelda> i made an ftp client
07:44 <mkzelda> socket usage was simple
07:45 <mkzelda> for everything ppl bitch about mIRC breaking standards and such
07:45 <mkzelda> they're really missing the power in its scripting
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'll have the server give up control to the game when it starts and just have the main server loop be the waiting room
07:46 <mkzelda> dont you hate when you have to make a decision like this, and months/years from now you wish you'd gone the other way
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> you're not helping!?!?!!
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> ;)
07:46 <mkzelda> haha
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> want to write a little script?
07:47 <mkzelda> maybe
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> I need something that converts freeciv civilization files to xml
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> xml can be anything, as long as it makes sense
07:48 <mkzelda> u got a b4 and after example?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't
07:48 <mkzelda> just b4's?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't spec'd the xml
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you get to spec the xml :)
07:48 <mkzelda> heh
07:48 <mkzelda> i guess i could try
07:48 <mkzelda> do i have to install freeciv now?
07:48 <mkzelda> heh
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you can just grab a file from their svn browser
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> the file's pretty clear what it is
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> mostly I just want the leader names, genders, and cities
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> you can probably trash the rest
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> maybe copy the flag information, if there's an svg for it
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> best is to embed the svg flag into the xml
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> since svg is xml
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> forget dtd's and crap, I'm not going to waste my time with that
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> and it shoudn't crawl, should just do one file
07:51 <mkzelda> what are these freeciv civ files
07:51 <mkzelda> i dont know much about its structure
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> lemme link you
07:52 <mkzelda> im emerging it just for you, cause theres already been a bunch of things i couldnt remember that you've asked so i figure it'll be handy
07:53 <mkzelda> ah i shoulda used the overlay from arma
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/freeciv/trunk/data/nation/
07:53 <mkzelda> oh nm its older
07:54 <mkzelda> gna!
07:54 <mkzelda> heh
07:54 <mkzelda> whats the point of an outdated ebuild of freeciv in the armagetron layman overlay?
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> ask luke-jr :)
07:55 <mkzelda> stdsounds
07:55  * mkzelda wonders what that sounds like
07:55 <GodTodd> is that from when he was going to make an armafreeciv or a freecivarma or whatever the fuck?
07:56 <GodTodd> heh
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> I think he just did that so other gentoo folks could easily get freeciv to play with us
07:57 <GodTodd> ahh
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> it might also have been because at the time gentoo's ebuild was behind
07:58 <mkzelda> yea
07:59 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: u sure you wanna trash the other values, seems just as easy to save it all at once
07:59 <mkzelda> extra data can always go unused
08:00 <mkzelda> and can more easily be cut, than added back
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's really up to you, but most of it will be useless in our model, I think
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> it probably is easier to ignore for a long time then it is to try to add it if it's needed
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my last commit probably broke the server
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think I want to surrender complete control to the game object
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> that would mean having two event loops, and I'd really rather just have one
08:12 <mkzelda> whats a good descriptor in lieu of 'name'
08:13 <mkzelda> for 'afghani/afghanis'
08:13 <mkzelda> thats not the "name"
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> civname single="afghani" plural="afghanis"
08:13 <mkzelda> thx
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> er
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> <civname single="afghani" plural="afghanis">
08:13 <mkzelda> right
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> or just <civilization blah>
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if we get british players, they'll bitch that it's not civilisation
08:14 <mkzelda> hah
08:14 <mkzelda> i just left it civname
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> THEY CAN WRITE THEIR OWN!!!!!
08:14 <mkzelda> i like that
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> man, this block just won't lift
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> I can't even figure out the first thing to do in the loop
08:15 <mkzelda> i havent messed w/ xml much more than arma so im having to brush up on the rules
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> lowercase everything, even though philippe insists on capitalizing everything
08:16 <mkzelda> i like lowercase
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, quotes around attributes, no attributes without assignments
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> so you can't have  <civname thisisaflag>
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> no need to bother with namespaces, I don't understand them either
08:16 <mkzelda> yea i got that much
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> and /> if a tag doesn't contain anything
08:17 <mkzelda> yea
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, do what html says and minidom should parse it :)
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> if there is a & or a <, >, etc, the substitution should probably be made.  I don't know how minidom will react to them if it's not.
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> but it doesn't even need a doctype or any of that crap, it'll parse fragments just fine and return a small dom for them
08:18 <mkzelda> k
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> minidom makes xml useful.  :)
08:19 <mkzelda> you like the capitli(s/z)ation of the values tho?
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you manage to copy teh contents of an svg file in there, you should put a parent tag on it that sas like <svgembed> or something so I can easily pull it out
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, I prefer lowercase everywhere except in actual content
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> actual content should follow regular english grammar :)
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> in particular, american english, but I'm not that particular
08:20 <mkzelda> i havent seen an svg file in any
08:20 <mkzelda> tho i only looked at afghani and america
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> they reference the flags weirdly
08:21 <mkzelda> they reference f.afghanistan which is then elsewhere... i can deal w/ that later
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> the svg files aren't even part of the nationset.  They wrote a tool that renders the svg files to pngs so their loader can load it
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> we have native support in qt for svg, and if we're going to support zooming on the map, we need to use it for all graphics, if possible
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> so honestly, if the choice is grab an svg or not have a graphic and there's no easy way to get the svg, I'd go without a graphic
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> we can dig up svg flags later
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> they're not that hard to come by
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> we can even draw them ourselves, flags aren't that hard to draw :)
08:23 <mkzelda> theres a standard set that all the bittorrent clients use now
08:23 <mkzelda> and forums
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> are they svg?
08:23 <mkzelda> not sure about that, but a mass-conversion wouldnt be difficult either
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> we'll also need historical flags, which could be hard to come by, but won't matter as far as freeciv is concerned because they don't have historically-accurate flags
08:24 <mkzelda> if the set is solid
08:24 <mkzelda> i mean, the set IS solid
08:24 <mkzelda> so, if its not svg a mass convert would be worth it, since its a good set
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> then it probably exists as svg somewhere :)
08:24 <mkzelda> yea
08:24 <mkzelda> ktorrent uses whatever it is
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, if it can be converted reasonably.  We've had some problems converting bitmaps to svgs, but we'll have to see
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> imagemagick supports the conversion, iirc
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> hell, if qt can load a bitmap and convert it internally to a respectable svg, we can do that too, but I doubt it does that
08:26 <mkzelda> im still unsure of one thing...
08:27 <mkzelda> for lists, should i store it like <cities="new york, chicago, etc."/> or <??="cities">new york, etc.</???> and does the latter store values or is that std output?
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> <city>New York</city><city>Lost Wages</city>
08:28 <mkzelda> yea, i was gonna ask about how to properly handle spaces next
08:28 <mkzelda> i guess that'd do that
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> for stuff like that, I'll strip spaces on either side, and collapse all other whitespace to one space, like html
08:29 <mkzelda> right
08:30 <mkzelda> preference of <city="New York"/> or <city>New York</city> ?
08:31 <mkzelda> save a few chars on the former
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> preference is the latter, here's why:
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> the former is invalid :)
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> <city name="New York" /> would be valid
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> then it doesn't save so many characters :)
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> the latter is more easily read, and can be extended easily with more attributes
08:32 <mkzelda> k
08:33 <mkzelda> true
08:34 <mkzelda> im manually doing 1-afghani so u decide how you like it then ill make something mass edit
08:35 <mkzelda> how many countries have a different title based on gender?
08:35 <mkzelda> cause that seems certainly worth trashing
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> a lot, actually
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> it is, sadly, worth keeping :(
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> think about it, Queen Elizabeth, King Henry VIII...
08:38 <mkzelda> yea, but thats as easily stored in the ruler name
08:38 <mkzelda> tho harder to script the change
08:39 <mkzelda> trashing nothing is easiest to mass edit
08:40 <mkzelda> but what i was saying was its easier to store name="Queen Elizabeth" than name="Elizabeth" gender="female" female_title="Queen" unless u have another example where that doesnt work
08:44 <mkzelda> init_buildings=""
08:44 <mkzelda> init_techs=""
08:44 <mkzelda> thats found in every ruleset
08:44 <mkzelda> is that so you can start with techs or buildings in a new game?
08:44 <mkzelda> and shall i just ignore that altogether?
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> if Elizabeth is the ruler, and the government is Democracy, you'd have President Queen Elizabeth
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> you can ignore init_buildings and init_techs
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv ignores them too
08:47 <mkzelda> heh true
08:47 <mkzelda> re pres queen
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> although we may end up with President Queen Clinton in a bit
08:47 <mkzelda> there exists 12 alt.flags
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, my event queue works, now what do I do with it?  ;)
08:48 <mkzelda> but 4 are uk
08:48 <mkzelda> 2 .it
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> here's the deal.  If you can't embed an svg file in directly, you're better off leaving flags out entirely
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> or just put a placeholder tag
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> like <flag />
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> a nop tag
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> we can sed for that when we have a flag
08:48 <mkzelda> i dont know shit about embedding anything into xml
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> if it's svg, you just open it like a regular file, read it, and go line by line and copy it under the flag tag :)
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> svg is xml
08:49 <mkzelda> tho given the right docs im capable of just about anything
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> since svg is xml, I could theoretically do document.getTagsByName("flag") and get the actual svg for the flag
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> grab each child of flag and turn it into a document object, then render the xml if I need to to give to qt
08:50 <mkzelda> then can u just as easily reference the svg file rather than embed?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but embedding is so much fun :)
08:51 <mkzelda> heh ok
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> actually, referencing the file instead of embed is probaby smarter
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> and I"m just smoking something
08:51 <mkzelda> i figure referencing is better for the sake of editing the file(s) later and having alt.flags
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I know what it is, I want to just dump this xml file to the client like it is and the client has everything it needs to render
08:51 <mkzelda> well thats a good reason too
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> alt.flags shouldn't be needed, the server's going to send everything.  Clients will be very thin in this regard
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, that might change
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose we could make it skinnable like freeciv
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> server should still send the flag the player picked to the other players, regardless of skin, I think
08:53 <mkzelda> you could allow server side map hacks that way i suppose, and whereas if it were client dependent ppl could hack their own maps only
08:54 <mkzelda> if that was something someone wanted to do
08:54 <mkzelda> er
08:54 <mkzelda> map hacks = flag hacks
08:54 <mkzelda> bleh
08:54 <mkzelda> i dunno that anyone would wanna do that, but if they wanted a pirate flag they could
08:54 <mkzelda> isnt there a country w/ the jolly roger as its flag?
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> Luciferians :)
08:55  * Lucifer_arma made a civilization for freeciv that uses Jack Rackham's flag
08:56 <GodTodd> barbarians too, eh?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> I think that if a player chooses an explicit flag for his civ, the other players should have to look at it
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> server admin could disable uploading flags (when this feature appears) to protect the kiddies
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> you know, from porn and stuff
08:57 <mkzelda> heh
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, should barbs even get flags?  ;)
08:58 <mkzelda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pirate_Flag_of_Rack_Rackham.svg lol
08:58 <mkzelda> wiki's got it all these days
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> yep, that's the one I used alright :)
08:58 <GodTodd> i think barbs should be handled same as disasters
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> I disagree
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> I think barbs should be modeled and could become civilizations
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> think about the difference between the romans conquering the "barbs" in europe, and the americans conquering the "barbs" in the US
08:59 <GodTodd> well...then, yes, at that point they *should* have a flag :P
08:59 <mkzelda> the order of the cities
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> in freeciv the order is roughly meaningless
08:59 <mkzelda> seems to be prioritized
08:59 <mkzelda> somehow
09:00 <mkzelda> based on some unknown criteria
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> it is, but the algorithm is weird so that how they appear in the file isn't terribly useful
09:00 <mkzelda> do u care, or would u rather alpha it and rnd() later?
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> second choice
09:00 <mkzelda> k
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> in freeciv, the way you see the cities when you discover a civilization gives away too much information
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I think I just figured out how to deal with event processing in the game object
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> running through the event loop is just organizing the events, then run the game step, whatever it is
09:02 <mkzelda> then again, people dont have to use the default names
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> no, they don't
09:03 <mkzelda> i never thought about that tho
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> and we'll hopefully have a ui that actually makes it convenient to customize city names
09:03 <mkzelda> freeciv using the same order gives up info on the order u built your city
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> yep, and you can usually identify the capital based on that
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's not guaranteed, but it is possible to narrow it down to one of three cities
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> if you can build 3 nukes, that's all you need :)
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> of course, by the time you can build nukes, you better have already spied out the capital anyway, or YOU SUCK!
09:04 <mkzelda> and the people who wouldnt think of that are the ones who are already at the biggest disadvantage, novices
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09:06 <Lucifer_arma> we'll probably support some other naming methods, just because Vanhayes stumbled across numbering his cities as a useful way to track them
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> but that's quite a ways down there right now
09:09 <mkzelda> http://mkzelda.com/afghani.ruleset.xml.txt ... what about that is wrong or would u like changed?
09:09 <mkzelda> note the ??? needs a suggestion
09:10 <mkzelda> and for the most part i kept var names
09:10 <mkzelda> but i did do city instead of cities
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> Resource should be lower-case
09:14 <mkzelda> k
09:15 <mkzelda> i copy/pasted that out of arma
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> damn philipp!
09:15 <mkzelda> so i forgot
09:15 <mkzelda> done
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, how about <leader gender="other">Scott Ian</leader>
09:15 <mkzelda> haha
09:15 <mkzelda> we def should have more than 2 genders
09:16 <mkzelda> hermo
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> <ruler_titles>
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="Democracy">Mr. Asshat</title>
09:16 <mkzelda> k
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> </ruler_titles>
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise looks good :)
09:18 <mkzelda> mr asshat?
09:18 <mkzelda> what about <government>democracy</government>?
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, we don't have any sort of political model even under discussion right now
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> except for some crap about passing laws
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> soo....  I'm not sure what to do about governments because they might well wind up being referred to by id or sha1 or whatever
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> so what you really want for anything resembling government is something that can easily be search and replaced
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> rather, search, parsed, and replaced
09:20 <mkzelda> but as far as im concerned...
09:21 <mkzelda> im just trying to get you there as close as possible
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> right.  :)  I guess what I"m really saying is "I don't have any idea", just trying to use as many words as possible
09:22 <mkzelda> u want <title government="Democracy">Mr. Asshat</title> or you want <government>Democracy</government>, and then does that conflict w/ the previous <government>Monarchy</government>
09:22 <mkzelda> and i could use  a suggestion where i have <??? leader
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> the freeciv file means "This title goes with this government".
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> <leader gender="other">Scott Ian</leader>   <--- that's about it for leader
09:23 <mkzelda> ok
09:23 <mkzelda> i was distracted by the joke
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> heh, sorry
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I want the <title government="Democracy">Mr. Asshat</title> assuming there isn't more information needed there
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> ever play Ultima 3?
09:25 <mkzelda> nope, but im familiar
09:25 <mkzelda> i even have it :/
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I just remember ultima 3 having an "other" gender
09:25 <mkzelda> so then similarly <title male_title="Prime Minister">Mr Asshat</title>
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> and all the hours I spent hacking characters with a hex editor
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> eek
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> I did miss something
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I know what I screwed up
09:26 <mkzelda> i had it all in a one liner
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="Democracy" gender="male">Mr. Asshat</title>
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> does that cover it now?
09:26  * Lucifer_arma goes back and looks
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
09:27 <mkzelda> yea i think so
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="Democracy" gender="male">Prime Minister</title>
09:27 <mkzelda> then female...
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> the joke distracted from the meaning too much, since Mr. President replaces the ruler's name when you're addressing him directly
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> so to cover both male and female, you need two lines per government
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="Democracy" gender="alll">Prime Minister</title>
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> er
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="Democracy" gender="all">Prime Minister</title>
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know how smart you want to make it, but there really are a lot of instances where male and female titles are identical :/
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's just that the ones where they're not identical are pretty important
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> could just leave off gender entirely
09:29 <mkzelda> one more thing, are leader names significant?
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> for the case where the title is for all
09:29 <mkzelda> i mean...
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> depends on what you mean :)
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> most players will put in their own names
09:29 <mkzelda> like the case of cities
09:29 <mkzelda> where im alphabetizing them
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> ah, no, leader names aren't significant
09:30 <mkzelda> ordered per existence or alpha
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> they might become significant, because I do want to associate character to the ais, but that's waaaay down the road
09:30 <mkzelda> well im not going to do the former
09:30 <mkzelda> heh
09:30 <mkzelda> but if you're looking for something historically accurate, it'd be relevant
09:30 <mkzelda> but like i said, im not doing that
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but not relevant at the level you're at :)
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> and not for many many moons
09:31 <mkzelda> u could tie in a year and have your ruler change based on years
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> I've considered that, actually
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> get a new ruler name when your government changes, that sort of thing
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> if you're a voting government, get a new ruler every 4 years
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> depends on the political model what we end up with, but it's not intended to be a role-playing game
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> but switching out the ruler names without otherwise affecting gameplay could add useful information that players can use which would be good
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> "I see he's having political difficulty, he's got a different ruler name than last time"
09:32 <mkzelda> refresh...
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> looks good
09:33 <mkzelda> Jalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalabad
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> I did read Ab Gach as Abu Ghraib like 4 times
09:34 <mkzelda> ditto
09:34 <mkzelda> i thought i saw it, like when you see something in your peripheral vision
09:34 <mkzelda> then i never found it again
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
09:37 <mkzelda> k i can leave u alone now
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10:03 <Lucifer_arma> rev 30 now :)
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10:55 <mkzelda> some of these rulesets break format w/ extra whitespaces and such
10:58 <mkzelda> wonder="Great Wall" ; Yes, we had own great wall ("WaÅy ÅlÄskie")
10:58 <mkzelda> lol
11:02 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: what about $civilwar_nations ?
11:02 <mkzelda> just discovered that one, not defined in the ones i looked at
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12:03 <mkzelda> hrm, how do you escape an equal sign in sed
12:03 <mkzelda> so it doesnt give a line number
12:08 <mkzelda> nm was doing a grep -c
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13:14 <MrBougo> hello
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14:11 <MrBougo> digi :D
14:19 <P4> hi guys
14:23 <MrBougo> hiho P4
14:25 <digitx> digi?
14:25 <digitx> where?
14:25 <digitx> hi p4
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14:25 <MrBougo> hello deja_vu
14:25 <digitx> hio
14:27 <deja_vu> hey
14:31 <MrBougo> deja_vu: don't do /exec -o yes
14:31 <MrBougo> never
14:31 <MrBougo> even if someone asks
14:32 <deja_vu> k
14:32 <deja_vu> bored?^^
14:32 <MrBougo> ever tried the yes command in console? :p
14:33 <deja_vu> yea
14:33 <MrBougo> i dont get it... what's the purpose of this
14:34 <deja_vu> you could use it to pipe "yes" to another command
14:34 <MrBougo> haha
14:34 <deja_vu> if it has prompts that annoy you or something
14:34 <MrBougo> oh right, thats a good idea
14:35 <MrBougo> i've yes > yes.txt for one second
14:35 <MrBougo> 18 megs
14:35 <MrBougo> it goes amazingly fast
14:35 <deja_vu> slow *g*
14:35 <MrBougo> and the command is amazingly short
14:35 <MrBougo> i mean to make some joke
14:35 <MrBougo> just fill some guy's harddrive :D
14:35 <deja_vu> might have something to do with it being amazingly easy
14:35 <deja_vu> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ;)
14:36 <deja_vu> 96045056 bytes (96 MB) copied, 1.91094 seconds, 50.3 MB/s
14:36 <deja_vu> slightly faster ;)
14:37 <MrBougo> lolz
14:37 <MrBougo> nano | yes does some byootiful eyecandy
14:37 <MrBougo> (relatively beautiful)
14:37 <MrBougo> (relatively eyecandy
14:38 <deja_vu> don't have nano^^
14:38 <MrBougo> hehe
14:39 <MrBougo> doesnt work with vi :(
14:39 <deja_vu> that doesn't make sense, anyway :P
14:39 <MrBougo> indeed
14:40 <MrBougo> i'm out
14:40 <MrBougo> bye!
14:40 <deja_vu> bye
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15:23 <digitx> #t en fr test
15:23 <digitx> oha
15:23 <digitx> where is armabot?
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16:16  * GodTodd thinks that enough people keep asking "where is armabot?" that perhaps it should be added to the topic ;)
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16:22 <digitx> where is armabot!
16:22 <digitx> :D
16:23 <digitx> i wanna armabot
16:32 <GodTodd> !ping
16:32 <BotSub> pong
16:32 <GodTodd> !weather 75023
16:32 <BotSub> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 76.8°F (9:34 AM CDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.18 in 988.0 hPa (Falling).
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17:04 <MrBougo> hello
17:09 <luke-jr_work> hihi
17:10 <digitx> oh no! luke!
17:10 <digitx> :D
17:18 <luke-jr_work> /kick digitx
17:18 <luke-jr_work> :D
17:19 <MrBougo> /exec -o yes kick me
17:19 <MrBougo> :D
17:21 <luke-jr_work> do NOT do that
17:22 <MrBougo> o rly? :p
17:23 <MrBougo> that's a nice advice
17:23 <MrBougo> windows people can do it :)
17:23 <MrBougo> EXEC	Le fichier spécifié est introuvable.
17:24 <MrBougo> it means "bad command or filename"
17:25 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:25 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_work, ...
17:25 <MrBougo> :D
17:26 <MrBougo> .alias add .. echo ???
17:26 <crazy-tronner> MrBougo: Error: Alias ".." is locked.
17:26 <MrBougo> bah...
17:26 <MrBougo> P4|away: :(
17:27 <digitx> .alias add ? echo $who ???
17:27 <crazy-tronner> digitx: The operation succeeded.
17:27 <digitx> ?
17:28 <digitx> .?
17:28 <crazy-tronner> digitx ???
17:28 <digitx> oha:(
17:28 <digitx> :D
17:29 <MrBougo> !alias add !! echo ???
17:29 <BotSub> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:29 <MrBougo> !!!
17:29 <BotSub> ???
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17:29 <digitx> lol
17:30 <digitx> !!!
17:30 <BotSub> ???
17:30 <digitx> !!!
17:30 <BotSub> ???
17:30 <digitx> !!!
17:30 <BotSub> ???
17:30 <digitx> !!!
17:30 <BotSub> ???
17:30 <digitx> !!!
17:30 <BotSub> ???
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18:19 <epsy> hi
18:20 <madmax|pt> hi
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19:32 <MrBougo> hello
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19:44 <ghableska> !weather 50266
19:44 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 77.5°F (12:45 PM CDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 28.74 in 973.1 hPa (Falling).
19:52  * Lucifer_arma prefers to have the comic in the topic now
19:55 <epsy> hello MrBougo, ghableska
19:55 <MrBougo> hellop epseh
19:55 <epsy> i remember that typo i made here
19:55 <epsy> « simply press wtrl + alt + del »
20:02 <MrBougo> haha
20:03 <MrBougo> i think i was there
20:04 <MrBougo> epsy: epsy epsy epsy
20:04 <MrBougo> ima mod some qvm then you're gonna test it
20:04 <luke-jr_> .......
20:04 <crazy-tronner> No idea!
20:04 <MrBougo> :D
20:07 <epsy> mranexuizing
20:07 <epsy> MrBougo, nexuiz'ing
20:07 <MrBougo> lol?
20:09 <MrBougo> np epsy you'll try it later :p
20:14 <mkzelda> !weather 27545
20:14 <BotSub> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 90.9°F (2:16 PM EDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Falling).
20:14 <mkzelda> farkin bah
20:15 <mkzelda> We finally got some rain for the first time in 3+ months, and only b/c that tropical storm and its already clear and 91
20:17 <MrBougo> epsy?
20:19 <MrBougo> epsy epsy epsy epsy, unzip this in your tremulous folder http://rapidshare.com/files/35238909/bahbah.zip.html
20:19 <MrBougo> and have fun with human blaster and sprint :p
20:19 <MrBougo> bye
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20:22 <ghableska> ahh
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20:26 <ghableska> hi digitx
20:26 <digitx> hi
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21:07 <P4|away> .alias add ? "commands"
21:07 <crazy-tronner> P4|away: The operation succeeded.
21:07 <P4|away> .alias lock ?
21:07 <crazy-tronner> P4|away: The operation succeeded.
21:07 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
21:07 <P4> :}
21:17 <P4> .tea
21:17 <crazy-tronner> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:17 <P4> .ct
21:17 <crazy-tronner> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (11/14): åopåritiøm, CoSaNoStrA, FORTRESS CAFE!, G5, maño, Zigzag, [UPZ] -ZOOM-, [UPZ] DIESEL, ~|DS|~ jazzy, ¦Ö¦Legit, «¦BTT¦V£¢Ð¥»       CT *** Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem: No online players. *** Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players. *** Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight: No online players. *** (1 more message)
21:17 <P4> .speed
21:17 <crazy-tronner> No idea, P4.
21:17 <P4> .serv speeders
21:17 <crazy-tronner> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “speeders” at the moment, sorry.
21:18 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
21:19 <CT|P4> .lastseen zac
21:19 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: zac seems to be on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server right now.
21:19 <CT|P4> .serv ~*SpeederS*~ Server
21:19 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: ~*SpeederS*~ Server: Players (5/12): OU SoONer, Showerguy, x-célia-x, zac, Zelos
21:19 <CT|P4> .alias add speed "serv ~*SpeederS*~ Server"
21:19 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The operation succeeded.
21:19 <CT|P4> .alias lock speed
21:19 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The operation succeeded.
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21:36 <ghableska> hi, Vanhayes
21:37 <Vanhayes> hello
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21:57 <epsy> .?
21:57 <crazy-tronner> epsy: .., ?, action, add, addhandler, alert, announce, any, aol, apply, apropos, armaconfig, armalize, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bug, bugs, c, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, cats, cfg, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, (5 more messages)
21:57 <epsy> ...
21:57 <crazy-tronner> epsy, ...
21:57 <epsy> spam
21:58 <epsy> it's like some other bomb in supybots
22:02 <CT|P4> i've locked it
22:02 <CT|P4> s there any NOP command in su[ybot?
22:03 <epsy> try doing .echo $channel
22:05 <mkzelda> anyone good w/ sed/grep that knows how to pull each comma delimited item out of a list like "The Republic, Trade, Engineering, Democracy, Railroad, Explosives, Automobile" or if it helps, each item also has "" around it
22:07 <CT|P4>  .echo $channel
22:07 <CT|P4> .echo $channel
22:07 <crazy-tronner> #armagetron
22:08 <CT|P4> NOP should work like nothing happens
22:09 <mkzelda> i already have a loop w/ an incremental variable so you dont have to rewrite that for my benefit
22:10 <luke-jr_work> .alias add tester echo [tester]
22:10 <crazy-tronner> The operation succeeded.
22:11 <luke-jr_work> .alias add tester echo "[tester]"
22:11 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
22:11 <luke-jr_work> .tester
22:11 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_work: Error: You've attempted more nesting than is currently allowed on this bot.
22:11 <crazy-tronner> An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:11  * luke-jr_work ponders
22:11 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: know how to use sed/grep in an incremental variable to pull individual comma delimited items out of a single line list?
22:11 <mkzelda> er, in a loop w/ incremental var
22:12 <mkzelda> my list is The Republic, Trade, Engineering, Democracy, Railroad, Explosives, Automobile
22:12 <mkzelda> or "The Republic", "Trade", "Engineering", "Democracy", "Railroad", "Explosives", "Automobile" ... if thats easier
22:14 <CT|P4> luke-jr_work: what's wrong?
22:14 <CT|P4> .list alias
22:14 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: .., ?, add, armaconfig, armalize, c, cats, cfg, ct, ctwf, czesc, dogs, ladle, lastseen, lock, mayhem, olej, opme, players, rain, remove, serv, serverdetails, speed, st, sty, t, tea, tester, tyskie, unlock, and whoisp4
22:14 <CT|P4> .help tester
22:14 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: (tester <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [tester]".
22:14 <CT|P4> lol
22:14 <CT|P4> .alias remove tester
22:14 <crazy-tronner> CT|P4: The operation succeeded.
22:16 <mkzelda> i just need to figure out how to scan by fields instead of lines
22:19 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: ???
22:19 <luke-jr_work> sed ',' '\n'
22:19 <luke-jr_work> err
22:19 <luke-jr_work> tr ',' '\n'
22:24 <mkzelda> ty, close enuf
22:26 <luke-jr_work> :p
22:30 <mkzelda> that wont work in my loop, b/c that gives me all the results every loop
22:31 <mkzelda> but then if i dont loop it i cant get the prefix and sufix
22:31 <mkzelda> i dont need \n i need to delete all other fields
22:32 <luke-jr_work> O.o
22:32 <luke-jr_work> all fields except what?
22:33 <mkzelda> i need the first field as a single result, then the second, then the third
22:33 <mkzelda> as my $var++ in the loop
22:34 <mkzelda> i could use your command to create a line list and then sed per lines in a loop
22:34 <luke-jr_work> ...
22:34 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_work, ...
22:34 <mkzelda> heh
22:35 <mkzelda> thats nasty tho cause i created a 1-line list from a non-consistent single or multi-line list already
22:36 <luke-jr_work> your problem makes no sense
22:36 <luke-jr_work> tr ',' '\n' splits a single comma-delimited line into one item per line
22:36 <luke-jr_work> which afaics is exactly what you're asking for
22:37 <mkzelda> yea, cept i only want one of the results at a time
22:37 <mkzelda> i can do it w/ sed, the problem is the # of fields is inconsistent
22:38 <mkzelda> its fine ill figure it out
22:38 <mkzelda> thx
22:41 <Vanhayes> >tea
22:41 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:41 <crazy-tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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22:45 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: hey, can you give this new spidey guy the title "King of Smegheads"?
22:50 <epsy> lol
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23:30 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: i'll have to pass on that for now
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23:45 <guru3> i've got a better title for him
23:45 <guru3> 'Giant TIT'
23:45 <guru3> but i can't write that on the forums
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23:54 <guru3> fear not, i have come up with a suitalble rank

Log from 2007-06-05:
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00:07 <Lucifer_arma> so if spidey and new spidey fought, who would win?
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, what should I use for a game timer?
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00:23 <spidey> ?
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00:54 <ghableska> !weather 50266
00:54 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 80.1°F (5:55 PM CDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 28.70 in 971.8 hPa (Falling).
00:54 <ghableska> .tea
00:54 <crazy-tronner> ghableska: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortress café” at the moment, sorry.
00:54 <MaZuffeR> come to fts ghab
00:55 <ghableska> alright
00:55 <mkzelda> fds
00:55 <MaZuffeR> d?
00:55 <mkzelda> feminine deoderant spray
00:55 <GodTodd> !weather 75023
00:55 <MaZuffeR> ok..
00:55 <BotSub> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 75.6°F (5:57 PM CDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa (Steady).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect from Tuesday morning through Tuesday afternoon...
00:55 <mkzelda> :D
01:00 <GodTodd> blergle flergle
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, now I remember why the setDaemon trick sucks
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> the thread doesn't release the port
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should add signal handling next
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> yay
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> so I just made the thread go and close all of it's sockets when it closes and that seems to have worked for the setDaemon thing
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> basic waiting room logic is in, now I just need input
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: did you finish that civ nationset conversion script by any chance?
01:09 <mkzelda> close
01:09 <mkzelda> all but the leader titles
01:10 <mkzelda> if u want something u can work w/ i can give u a sample now, tho if u can wait an hour or two it'll be better
01:11 <mkzelda> a few more questions
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> I can wait, I have more groundwork to put in first
01:11 <mkzelda> Observer and Barbarians lack class
01:11 <mkzelda> i mean, lack *a* class
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> that's fine, we won't convert those
01:11 <mkzelda> observer lacks a wonder
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> I intend there to be no observer available, and to handle barbs differently
01:11 <mkzelda> there are a few bugs here and their ill have to address directly
01:12 <mkzelda> silesians wonder has a comment that throws it off
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> those two nationsets exist because of what I suspect are bad freeciv design decisions
01:12 <mkzelda> can i remove them entirely?
01:12 <mkzelda> i mean those 2
01:12 <mkzelda> skip them in the process
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> that's fine, if they're not too bad, I'm intending to run it one at a time anyway
01:12 <mkzelda> running what one at time?
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> one nationset at a time...
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh, it crawls, doesn't it?  ;)
01:13 <mkzelda> oh my script does all 85 at once
01:13 <mkzelda> yea
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
01:13 <mkzelda> its done cept for the leader thing cause i gotta nest some loops and its a bitch b/c the formatting they used
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I can still work with that, so it's really up to you
01:13 <mkzelda> they werent consistent
01:14 <mkzelda> they start on lines 2+
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> man, all of freeciv's resource files are like that, too.  They're really bad
01:14 <mkzelda> and some only have 1 ruler title, some have 6
01:14 <mkzelda> er, 5
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> and occasionally you'll see a comment that tells you the whitespace matters <here>, unlike the last 3 lines
01:14 <mkzelda> yea
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> they're snotty C programmers, what do you expect, you know?
01:14 <mkzelda> and then they have comments that are intended to be funny
01:15 <mkzelda> danish/swedish have carriage returns after their leader= and leader_sex= that have to be addressed uniquely
01:15 <mkzelda> but i made all the commands variables so if something changes in the nation files it can be fixed easily
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that we'll try to keep them in sync with current freeciv development, I was just wanting a good baseline that made it so we could avoid having to create all of our civs from scratch
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's literally the only thing we get to keep from freeciv, everything else is so different we have to do it from scratch ;)
01:16 <mkzelda> i didnt figure we would but should they do something drastic the script would be able to handle it w/ eae
01:17 <mkzelda> ease
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> you could toss it their way and see if they get the hint
01:17 <mkzelda> haha
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't mind being abused by C programmers
01:18 <mkzelda> the script was a good exercise for me anyhow
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully it'll force me to add multichunk support to the network layer
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> or zip, one of the two ;)
01:20 <mkzelda> do you really want genders other than male/female?
01:20 <mkzelda> heh
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01:21 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I won't say no, but I'm not in a hurry to support them
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> but see, I'll probably just do linking between the fields, so in theory you could do anythin gyou wanted
01:21 <mkzelda> yea, ill just stick to your requests
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> so if the gender given by the player is "manly-man", it'll look for the title that goes with "manly-man"
01:22 <mkzelda> its just gonna make it slightly harder but i see the advantages
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> you know, with the tabbed interface, we might be able to support multiple planets, if the game engine can handle them
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> that could be interesting, but I wont' think about it now
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> right now I'll put the stuff in place to let someone in the waiting room signal they're ready to play
01:25 <mkzelda> oh yea
01:25 <mkzelda> for a few things i converted spaces to _
01:25 <mkzelda> and i wasnt consistent on that, but can be as i fix the script
01:26 <mkzelda> i mean, i think i did it in all but 1 or 2 places where values had spaces
01:26 <mkzelda> like Prime_Minister
01:26 <mkzelda> cause it was really bothersome
01:26 <mkzelda> only place i didnt do it were single value vars, like 'wonder'
01:27 <mkzelda> but for cities, where i had a list
01:27 <mkzelda> i did conver to underscore
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably fine, mostly, because I'm expecting us to have to hand-tune these anyway
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> mostly because we haven't gotten any sort of real design going for what constitutes a civilization resource
01:27 <mkzelda> right
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> so I'll implement in code what you've written, and we'll hand-tune a few to test with, and we go from there :)
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01:28 <DrJoeTron> anyone see shrunkland on the list?
01:28 <mkzelda> i kept that in mind as i made the script, so it'd be easy to modify things like syntax, variable names, formatting as we saw fit
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> can't really test right now, joe, sorry
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I meant to find out what it takes to get the current username in python
01:31 <DrJoeTron> thanks :p
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01:38 <Vanhayes> .tea
01:38 <crazy-tronner`> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): MIGUS, Pinhead
01:38 <ghableska> .tea
01:38 <crazy-tronner`> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): MIGUS, Pinhead
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02:10 <mkzelda> luci im stuck on something
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> use acetone
02:11 <mkzelda> they have some character thats not whitespace, its some tab formatting
02:11 <mkzelda> dunno how to escape it
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> not to get too pedantic, but tabs are whitespace
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> \t is used in most code to escape tabs
02:12 <mkzelda> well even tho im using tr -d " " it wont remove whatever this is and it happens to be 5 characters
02:12 <mkzelda> k
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://osdir.com/LDP/LDP/abs/html/escapingsection.html
02:12 <mkzelda> heh i have that page open already
02:12 <mkzelda> from another site tho
02:14 <mkzelda> thx
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> probably need to do tr a second time for the tabs
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> you could probably dig up a regex for sed that'll take out all whitespace
02:17 <mkzelda> i dont want all whitespace out
02:17 <mkzelda> cause then i get PrimeMinsister
02:18 <mkzelda> thats what im fighting now
02:18 <mkzelda> as well as an unexplained carriage return whenever that space shows up
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's just a carriage return without the newline?
02:18 <mkzelda> if i just run the string of commands it doesnt do it, but if i do the same string of commands in a for loop it introduces this CR that doesnt exist
02:19 <mkzelda> and im doing hte same code as in other sections and it doesnt do that
02:19 <mkzelda> im pulling out hair
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I hate bash scripting, man, I hate it!  And that's one of the reasons
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> the for loop goes over lines?
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> lines in a file, that is?
02:19 <mkzelda> i was gonna do perl
02:19 <mkzelda> "Democracy",
02:19 <mkzelda> "Prime
02:19 <mkzelda> Minister",
02:19 <mkzelda> "Prime
02:19 <mkzelda> Minister"
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> oh hell, if that's your output, don't sweat it
02:20 <mkzelda> nowhere is that found
02:20 <mkzelda> im gonna just ignore that space man
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to have to deal with that possibility somehow anyway
02:20 <mkzelda> ill fix it later
02:20 <mkzelda> so, PrimeMinister is the result
02:21 <mkzelda> "Democracy","PrimeMinister","PrimeMinister"
02:21 <mkzelda> w/o the "
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's fine.  :)
02:21 <mkzelda> wasted too much time on that
02:22 <luke-jr_> sed -r 's,^[^,]*,([^,]*),.*$,\1,'
02:22 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: thats what i ended up doing earlier
02:23 <luke-jr_> ...
02:23 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
02:23 <mkzelda> for the earlier question
02:23 <luke-jr_> what's the problem now?
02:23 <luke-jr_> sed 's,\s,,g'
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02:23 <mkzelda> nothing, im avoiding it
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> man, now I need a better way to identify network connections so I can send to one player information about another player
02:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: sure p2p isn't ok?
02:24 <mkzelda> much of what i've done should be rewritten cleaner/faster but it works
02:24 <luke-jr_> sed 's,\s,,g' <-- strips all whitespace
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure p2p isn't ok
02:24 <mkzelda> thanks
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> think about it, I'd need a better way to identify network connections than by user-input name anyway so I can match up civs with players when connections drop
02:25 <mkzelda> i didnt really want to strip all whitespace,but i did
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> I was just ignoring that issue
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02:25 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: XMPP solves much networking
02:25 <mkzelda> In other examples i was able to first change things to Prime_Minister and then remove whitespace
02:25 <mkzelda> just not this one
02:26 <luke-jr_> sed 's,PrimeMinister,Prime Minister,g'
02:26 <luke-jr_> sed -r 's,(Prime)(Minister),\1 \2,g'
02:26 <mkzelda> im going to manually enter every case
02:27 <mkzelda> HighKingoftheNoldor - QueenofDoriath
02:27 <mkzelda> PrimerMinistre - PrimeraMinistre
02:27 <mkzelda> CaptainGeneral - CaptainGeneral
02:27 <mkzelda> etc
02:27 <mkzelda> its fine as is
02:27 <luke-jr_> sed -r 's,([a-z])([A-Z]),\1 \2,'
02:27 <luke-jr_> :)
02:27 <mkzelda> now that... might be useful
02:28 <luke-jr_> sed -r 's,([a-z])([A-Z]),\1 \2,g'
02:28 <mkzelda> or not
02:29 <mkzelda> D em oc ra cy,P ri me Mi ni st er,
02:29 <mkzelda> heh
02:30 <luke-jr_> wtf?
02:31 <luke-jr_> you changed it
02:31 <mkzelda> copy pasted
02:31 <mkzelda> cuntpaste
02:31 <luke-jr_> luke-jr@tsuruki ~ $ sed -r 's,([a-z])([A-Z]),\1 \2,g' <<<"Democracy,PrimeMinister"
02:31 <luke-jr_> Democracy,Prime Minister
02:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm, where's my wife?
02:31 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: my place
02:33 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: then your sed is b0rked
02:33 <mkzelda> shur
02:33 <Vanhayes> omg, was that a joke, coming from luke-jr_ ?
02:34 <luke-jr_> no way!
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> looked more like an insult.  "Your wife is stupid and ugly, so she's at my place" is what I read
02:35 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: she's immersed in the CCT
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> you're into bondage?  didn't know that...
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> didn't *want* to know that
02:37 <luke-jr_> wtf?
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> that you're into bondage
02:38 <luke-jr_> ...
02:38 <crazy-tronner> luke-jr_, ...
02:38 <luke-jr_> crazy-tronner: that's what I thought
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, is there a limit to the size of a hostname?
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> rather, do I care?  I could add another part of the read loop to look for a part that contains a hostname
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> grrr, 255 bytes
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> my header is already 64 bytes
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll add another section for hostmask
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> no wait, that's bad
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> ...
02:54 <crazy-tronner> Lucifer_arma, ...
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02:55 <Lucifer_arma> if I take a sha1 hash of a string and spam the whole world with it, nobody can figure out what the original string was, right?
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll add timestamping too
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03:12 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**8
03:12 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 256
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 53-6
03:13 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 47
03:14 <P4> .rpn 231+-
03:14 <tronner> P4: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:14 <P4> pity i dont get pyton :|
03:15 <ghableska> luke-jr_ made a joke?
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**32
03:15 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 4294967296
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**16
03:15 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 65536
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> 32 bits it is
03:18 <P4> .calc 2^64
03:18 <tronner> P4: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
03:18 <P4> .calc 2**64
03:18 <tronner> P4: 18446744073709551616
03:18 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 1984-64
03:18 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 1920
03:19 <P4> it's logarithmic delta's right?
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 1+4+4+2+6+4+40+67+1920
03:19 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 2048
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> yay
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> theoretically I just need to change one variable to make that chunk shape happen
03:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, and code the timestamping and playerstamping
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03:21 <Vanhayes> .weather saint john
03:21 <tronner> Vanhayes: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Showers. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches. Wind southeast 40 km/h gusting to 60 becoming south 30 gusting to 50 overnight. Temperature rising to 14 by midnight.; Tuesday - Rain changing to periods of drizzle in (1 more message)
03:22 <Vanhayes> .more
03:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: the morning. Amount 2 mm. Fog patches. Wind south 30 km/h gusting to 50. High 16. UV index 3 or moderate. Tuesday night..periods of drizzle ending in the evening then cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Wind south 20 km/h gusting to 40 becoming light near midnight. Low 14.; Wednesday - Cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. High 18.;
03:23 <ghableska> .weather 50266
03:24 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 73.8°F (8:24 PM CDT on June 04, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 28.74 in 973.1 hPa (Falling).
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03:46 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
03:55 <spidey> luke-jr_:im
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04:29 <spidey> o.O
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05:33 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: ping
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> 'sup mom?
05:34 <Your_mom_arma> I was goofing around trying to make a script to import the nation.ruleset files and export them in .xml... obviusly something im incapable of doing at the moment
05:34 <Your_mom_arma> a bit more then I can chew.
05:35 <Your_mom_arma> I managed to write a script to import 1 file(wanted to make a input prompt interface but couldn't figure out how) into a string.
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> look at the OptionParser module
05:37 <Your_mom_arma> optparse?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> no, the bigger one, OptionParser
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> optparse is pretty crappy
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> taking input in a terminal is surprisingly tricky in python
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> at least, if you want it to be interactive :/
05:39 <Your_mom_arma> I can't find it in the library reference
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> er nvm, optparse is the one
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, what's the crappy one then?
05:42 <Your_mom_arma> getopt?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that sounds like the one
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> based on some gnu api or other, I think
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> so did you have a question, or, err, what?  ;)
05:44 <mkzelda> lucifer this thing is done and working cept for one thing...
05:44 <mkzelda> <leader gender="'$gender'">'$leader_name'</leader> ...
05:45 <mkzelda> the lists comin as one liners, comma delimted, and i cant get them to both work in the same loop
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
05:45 <mkzelda> so i either get <leader gender="">name</leader> x times, followed by <leader gender="male"></leader> another x times
05:46 <mkzelda> or, i can dump them as <leader gender="male,male,male,male">george,bill,josh,martin</leader>
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> you could read it into an array and then dump it...
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> or did you already try that?
05:46 <mkzelda> i tried that and it still wants to go one, and then the other
05:47 <mkzelda> obviously is doable but ive hit a wall for now
05:47 <Your_mom_arma> I was just hoping you could link me to something helpful for what I was trying.
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> I've encountered something like that before, oddly enough, but it might take awhile
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05:47 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: to do interactive terminal stuff?
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> there's a builtin for taking input that almost works
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> I don't recall exactly how it works that's odd, though
05:48 <Your_mom_arma> for parsing the stuff in the string into an xml format
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, so you managed to load the file?
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> now you've got the freeciv nationset in memory and you want to parse it?
05:49 <Your_mom_arma> ie name=_("Viking")  -> <name = viking>
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://docs.python.org/lib/string-methods.html
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> there's also slice notation
05:50 <Lucifer_arma>  theUser = theMessage[0:theMessage.find("\n")]  # takes a string up to the first newline and stores it in theUser
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> the slice notation is the part in the brackets
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> when a file format supports comments, you generally do something like this:
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> theline = thelinewithcomments[0:thelinewithcomments.find("#")].strip()
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> then len(theline) == 0 if the line is only a comment and you can ignore it
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> so you want to collect the freeciv nationset into a series of lists and dictionaries and stuff that represents the data, first, then iterate through it to write the xml
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> so the program is two parts.  First read and parse the file into your own variables, then write those variables as xml
05:55 <Your_mom_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Freeciv_Nation_import is what I have so far. note the very simple code
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> ah, right, very simple :)
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> after you do your open, and you have the nation file object, do this:
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> for line in nation:
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> that lets you read the file one line at a time
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> then the first thing you do in the for loop is check for comments like I described a minute ago
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> after you've taken out the comment, you want the rest of the for loop wrapped in an if statement that looks something like this;
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> if len(theLineWithoutComments) > 0:
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> that'll make it skip lines that are completely comments :)
05:58 <mkzelda> did i waste my time?
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> did you?  :)  (did you click the link?)  Mom's learning python, so it's a different script, of sorts, and apparently didn't mention it to anybody :)
05:59 <mkzelda> bleh yea, i just didnt know if we were working on the same thing or not
06:00 <Your_mom_arma> wait, what's mkzelda working on?
06:01 <mkzelda> i made a script to convert the nation files to xml :D
06:01 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are working on the same thing :)
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> to be fair getting as far as I did probobly took way longer then however far mkzelda is
06:02  * Lucifer_arma is trying to extend the header format for chunks, anybody working on that?
06:03 <mkzelda> http://mkzelda.com/eugenics/mkcrx-0.1.0.sh.txt
06:04 <mkzelda> it just has to be run from inside the nation dir
06:04 <Your_mom_arma> ow, my ego
06:05 <mkzelda> lol its nasty tho, i imagine that the python would look much better
06:07 <mkzelda> it can be refined immensely, i was just getting it to a status of 'working'
06:07  * Your_mom_arma contemplates whether or not he should finish(start)the version he was working on
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06:16 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma planet puzzle league is amazing
06:18 <Your_mom_arma> I don't doubt it, I'm just not into puzzle games. (shrug)
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: I decided to not bother, is there something easy(easier) I could try coding?
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:23  * Lucifer_arma thinks
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that tehre's a lot of room for that sort of easier stuff
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> you might just open up mainqt.py and read it and try to understand it, then take a crack at adding ui stuff you want
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> that opens up the possibility of playing with qt designer, which is usually fun in and of itself
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> something that would be really helpful and might be really instructive would be to code up some tests to test the api
06:28 <GodTodd> qt designer is fun, no doubt....but it's integrating it and the code that has been getting me ;)
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> you could look at mainqt.py yourself and see about that :)
06:28 <GodTodd> i have been...when i've had spare moments
06:28 <GodTodd> :/
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just successfully added timestamps to the protocol
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> and player ids, but no messages use player ids yet
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> if anybody's going to look at mainqt.py to try to learn something about qt and python, the time's going to be up soon, because i'm going to tear it down a bit and rebuild it with each widget it currently has in a separate file
06:31 <DrJoeTron> so i decided
06:32 <DrJoeTron> I'm just going to ban everyone who doesnt like the fact that I'm hosting :)
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> ?
06:32 <DrJoeTron> id be doing them a favor
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> alot of complaints?
06:33 <DrJoeTron> just one
06:34 <DrJoeTron> YOU SHOULD NOT HOST THIS YOU DO NOT HAVE A STABLE ENOUGH CONNECTION
06:34 <DrJoeTron> "You know you dont have to play here
06:34 <DrJoeTron> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1884 but i caved and bought this
06:35 <Your_mom_arma> Say's the 12 year old that can't figure out how to host a server on his moms 56k aol connection
06:35 <DrJoeTron> not sure who it was
06:35 <DrJoeTron> i fucked with the settings
06:35 <DrJoeTron> SO THIS IS HOW ITS GOING TO BE NOW HUH?
06:35 <DrJoeTron> ITS NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME
06:36 <DrJoeTron> :D
06:36 <DrJoeTron>  /ignore luke-jr
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> it works better if you don't put a space at the beginning
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> you know what's really annoying?
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> this is why I hate writing new applications from scratch, in fact
06:37 <DrJoeTron> nopr i put a space
06:37 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: ?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> every time I go back to the waiting room and say "Now I"m going to make it so a player can click 'start'" I realize I still need one more thing from the network layer
06:37 <DrJoeTron> nope, wrong again as usual luke-jr :)
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> because it's from scratch, so I still have to make every part
06:37 <DrJoeTron> my thumb "b0rked" it
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's like, you want to cook dinner, but first you have to cut the wood, then mine the ore to make the pot, but you can't make the pot without first constructing a forge
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> so you go make some bricks
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> figure out you need a hammer
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> etc
06:38 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'm a go make a base class for events that'll make sure everything useful from the header of a data chunk makes it into the event
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> this is just so I can put timestamps in the chat window :(
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> (really, the timestamps are important, they'll be used to make sure people only take their turn during their turn)
06:40  * GodTodd stabs luke-jr
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> I need a programming language for idiots. ok I want a game where you're a pirate and you fight other pirates, also there are ships. Compiling game. game complete
06:40  * Lucifer_arma stones luke-jr
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> man, you get swing it with python, really.
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> s/get/can
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you can get into the right mode of thought, the language doesn't matter so much, as long as it's not anything luke likes
06:42 <mkzelda> Your_mom_arma: u should continue w/ what you were working on and use mine as loose reference
06:42 <mkzelda> u can use mine to know what search criteria will remove the unwanted stuff
06:42 <mkzelda> that was the most time consuming for me
06:42 <mkzelda> figuring out what was unique info
06:42 <mkzelda> tedious
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> I just don't have the dictionary down. I know about as much python as I do Spanish. I can say hi, ask your name, repeat your name and ask you how you are, then ask you where the bathroom is.
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> donde esta el bano?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> que hora es?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> donde esta las senoritas?
06:44 <GodTodd> the bathroom is in the hall
06:44 <Your_mom_arma> en mis pantalones
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> y las cervezas?
06:44 <GodTodd> it's 11:45 pm
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's not accidental that beer is a feminine word in spanish
06:44 <GodTodd> the chicks are as far from luke-jr as possible
06:45 <GodTodd> and the beers are at the store
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: it's more important to get the syntax down, since you can look up the words anytime
06:45 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr: I also have bad grammer in python and spanish
06:45 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
06:45 <mkzelda> la cosa que me gusta mas es panochita
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> la tortilla esta say what the fuck?
06:46 <GodTodd> !translate sp en la cosa que me gusta mas es panochita
06:46 <BotSub> GodTodd: the thing that I like but is panochita
06:46 <GodTodd> heh
06:46 <mkzelda> :D
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> panochita = pussy?
06:47 <mkzelda> ya
06:47 <mkzelda> choicha
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> puto
06:47 <GodTodd> !translate en sp pussy
06:47 <BotSub> GodTodd: gatito
06:47 <GodTodd> haha
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:47 <GodTodd> clean ass bot :/
06:48 <mkzelda> take your chones y los mandan a mi
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I used to work with a mexican who said gata for pussy
06:48 <GodTodd> yeah..i always learned it as puto (in reference to a luke-jr type personality anyway)
06:49 <mkzelda> just depends on the region
06:49 <GodTodd> !translate en sp vagina
06:49 <BotSub> GodTodd: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
06:49 <GodTodd> !translate en sp vagina
06:49 <BotSub> GodTodd: vagina
06:49 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:49 <GodTodd> mkzelda: well this was about 2 hours north of juarez
06:50 <GodTodd> 90 mins maybe
06:51 <mkzelda> you know whites under age 25 are the minority in the US
06:51 <GodTodd> that's cuz mexican chicks are drop dead hot
06:51 <GodTodd> heh
06:52 <mkzelda> until they turn 20
06:52 <GodTodd> nah
06:52 <GodTodd> til they get married
06:52 <GodTodd> then it's a crapshoot
06:52 <mkzelda> most i've seen turn spherical around 20
06:52 <GodTodd> then you've got the bad batch
06:52 <GodTodd> heh
06:52 <mkzelda> haha
06:52 <mkzelda> that we do
06:53 <GodTodd> we have 'em fresh off the tortilla press if you will ;)
06:53 <mkzelda> Do you have the commercials or reminders during the news not to pick them up if you see refugees?
06:54 <GodTodd> not here....where i grew up we did
06:54 <mkzelda> lol
06:54 <mkzelda> i used to see those when i lived in florida
06:54 <GodTodd> and signs on the side of the road kinda like when you pass a prison
06:54 <GodTodd> heh
06:55 <mkzelda> went on a field trip w/ school, went snorkeling in the keys and saw a 'boat' which was more of an enormous piece of rusted floating metal w/ fugees on it
06:55 <GodTodd> we were close enough to mexico that you got searched going from one state to another
06:55 <mkzelda> heh
06:56 <GodTodd> i was pale enough to never have to worry ;)
06:58 <mkzelda> did you sit on your porch and shoot cans?
06:58  * GodTodd goes politically incorrect.
06:58 <GodTodd> only fugees we've had to worry about here came from nawlins
06:58 <GodTodd> ;)
06:58 <GodTodd> me? no
06:58 <mkzelda> lol
06:59 <mkzelda> http://mkzelda.com/files/images/Hungrynegro.jpg
07:00 <GodTodd> wow
07:00 <GodTodd> that's
07:00 <GodTodd> like
07:00 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:01 <mkzelda> heh
07:01 <GodTodd> did *you* sit on your porch and shoot cans? ;)
07:02 <mkzelda> i was just fishin if that was familiar slang
07:03 <GodTodd> heh
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07:19 <MrBougo> hello!
07:20 <MrBougo> !last --with rapidshare
07:20 <BotSub> MrBougo: [13:22:16] <MrBougo> epsy epsy epsy epsy, unzip this in your tremulous folder http://rapidshare.com/files/35238909/bahbah.zip.html
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07:29 <DrJoeTron> more like rapidshit
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> the mexican that said gata for pussy was in austin, from durango
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> yer too far north, mkzedla
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> now I'm gonna go smoke with my wife and try to figure out why she had additional contractions when I rubbed her back a certain way
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08:36 <DrJoeTron> heh
08:36 <DrJoeTron> IRC for the ds
08:38 <Your_mom_arma> linux ds? couldn't be opera(thought flash java(scripts in general) weren't able to run)?
08:39 <DrJoeTron> linux ds doesnt work for R4
08:41 <DrJoeTron> IRCDS and DSAIM work for it
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> man, for a game that barely has a waiting room, I sure have a lot of code
09:02 <DrJoeTron> http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/TI-83 haha
09:04 <DrJoeTron> holy shit
09:04 <DrJoeTron> quake for the ds?
09:08 <Your_mom_arma> I'm not surprised by any quake port... ever
09:09 <DrJoeTron> my statement was more of a "why?"
09:11 <Your_mom_arma> Lucifer_arma: I decided to try to finish the nation exporter. So how should I parse the string with all the info in it?(I've been goofing around with nationstr.split ( '\n' ) and nationstr.replace('\n',' '){both / and \}) but they don't seem to do anything(usefull)
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09:18 <epsy> hi
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, you should go through it line by line and parse each line by itself
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> that's going to give you the most bang for the buck, and also prepare you for more complex parsers :)
09:26 <Your_mom_arma> how do I separate it into lines though?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> that's where you do a for line in file: loop, where "file" is a file object returned by open()
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> so you do:
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> for line in theFileObj:
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> and every iteration of the loop, the variable "line" is a string containing just one line of the file, up to and I believe including the newline at the end
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've got an example of a parser that parses arma config files that might help, lemme dig up a link
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/Lucifer/aamaprotator/libaamaprotator/server_settings.py
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> the function called "_load_file"
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> it's a pretty simple file format
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> that parser even supports the INCLUDE directive in arma config files
09:38 <Your_mom_arma> theSetting = self.ParseLine(line)
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> next function down is ParseLine
09:40 <Your_mom_arma> ok, so that decides if there's nothing on the line
09:40 <Your_mom_arma> if theSetting[0] == 'INCLUDE':
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> then it calls itself with the filename given by INCLUDE.  It's recursive :)
09:44 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma did you see plundr?
09:45 <DrJoeTron> http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/04/plundr-first-location-based-ds-game-debuts-at-where-2-0/
09:46 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: is it going to be retail?
09:46 <DrJoeTron> man i hope so
09:46 <DrJoeTron> it looks pretty neat
09:51 <Your_mom_arma> I think im hopeless
09:51 <DrJoeTron> what are you two doing?
09:52 <Your_mom_arma> im trying to write a program(that mkzelda already made btw) to export nation.ruleset(freeciv file) into a .xml file for eugenics
09:53 <DrJoeTron> interesting
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> you're not hopeless, it's just hard to start
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> it gets easier once you get past the initial conceptual humps
09:56 <GodTodd> just be glad you're under the tutelage of Lucifer_arma...you'd give up in a heartbeat if it was someone that constantly said what you were doing is stupid (such as some i could name ;))
09:57 <Your_mom_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com/index.php/Freeciv_Nation_import
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> ok, self is a reserved word for when you're working with classes.  You're not working with classes, so using it is just going to confuse you
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get into classes eventually, just not now :)  (the source listing I linked is a class, hence the use of self)
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> the for loop should be "for line in nation", because nation is your file object
09:59 <Lucifer_arma> you can eliminate the nationstr=nation.read() line entirely, it's not needed
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> nationline is what you want to work with where you first parse for comments, strip the result, and see if it's blank
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> because if it's blank, you either have a blank line or a line that only contains a comment
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> so something like this:
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> if line.find("#") > -1:
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> nationline = line[0:line.find("#")].strip()
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> that uses slice notation, the stuff in the brackets
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> a string is a sequence, which you may have noticed.  You can access any arbitrary part of a string like this:
10:01 <spidey> i think i know what i'ma do next time i leave for along time
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> someString = "Hi there!"
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> someString[3]   # this would print "t" if it were typed in the python interpreter directly
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> slice notation extends that and lets you grab part of a string
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> someString[3:5]  # this would print "the", the first three letters of "there!"
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> so what I gave you, then, first checks to see if the comment character "#" is in the line
10:03 <GodTodd> it doesn't count the whitespace?
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> if it is, then give you the line with everything up to the comment line
10:03 <GodTodd> err
10:03 <GodTodd> nvm
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> 0-indexed :)
10:03 <GodTodd> yah
10:03 <GodTodd> i'm sleepy :P
10:03 <GodTodd> 0,1,2,3
10:03 <GodTodd> :/
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> then take that and .strip() it, which removes whitespace from both sides of the resulting string
10:03 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: i tried really hard w/ arrays and i cant seem to send space delimited lists to an array, it newlines ever space, even tho i have not told it to do so
10:03 <mkzelda> for loops corrupt data
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> if the string has only whitespace in it when you strip it, then you get an empty string
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> which you can conveniently test for
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: follow?
10:04 <mkzelda> i can copypasta my code that works on command line and put it in my loop and it will break it
10:04 <Your_mom_arma> ummm
10:04 <Your_mom_arma> some of it
10:04 <GodTodd> ahhh so strip is like java's trim()
10:05 <GodTodd> does leading and trailing whitespace?
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> yep
10:05 <Your_mom_arma> I already understood strings and how to access parts of them like you showed
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> yep, does both sides
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> ok, then the line isn't terribly complicated :)
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> the format of the nationset file is basically .ini format
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have an ini parser laying around, but I went to python's ConfigParser, which unfortunately can't be used for the nationset file
10:06 <mkzelda> btw GodTodd: where i put - sed 's/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//' - is me stripping whitespace at beginning and end :D
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> there are two things you need to test for to parse the line, and you need to keep track of where you are somehow
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> you watch for strings that, after you've processed the line like I showed, start and end with brackets
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> and you look for =
10:07 <GodTodd> mkzelda: i'm used to java where you just String.trim(someString);
10:07 <GodTodd> ;)
10:07 <Your_mom_arma> if line.find("#") > -1:       nationline = line[0:line.find("#")].strip()    is where im lost, the"slice notation"
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10:07 <Lucifer_arma> [0:line.find("#")]  <--- that's slice notation.  It's the [, the ], and the :
10:07 <mkzelda> yea this was one of my first attempts at extensive command line scripting
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> it says "give me the string starting from the 0th character up to the point where you find the # character"
10:07 <mkzelda> it was clearly the worst choice
10:07 <mkzelda> heh
10:08 <GodTodd> that goes from the zeroth character of the line and finds any "#" then strips whitespace....if i'm reading it correctly...
10:08 <GodTodd> which it's possible i'm not :)
10:08 <Your_mom_arma> oh, I _think_ I get it
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> that's exactly what it does :)
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> here's the tricky bit of slices, but you'll find this everywhere else anyway
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> the first character is in position 0
10:08 <GodTodd> put that in a for loop that tests for EOF or some such and it'll do it for the whole file
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> so the position returned by find() gives you an actual position
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> er
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I just confused myself, so read the docs to figure out why the # character isn't in the output
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if it is, just add "-1" to the find to subtract one from the position you get :)
10:09 <GodTodd> is it like a pointer? where it gives the "address" (probably not the correct term)
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> reference is the correct term
10:10 <Your_mom_arma> I get the coordinates etc(one of the few things that's easy to understand)
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> in this case, you get a new string
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: but most of the time, python passes by reference, which is usually what you want
10:10 <Your_mom_arma> I get you looking at a line looking for comments then saying I don't want the comment in this line.
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> there's a little more there, that line takes this line:
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> "      something = somethingelse a list and more         # this is useless, completely useless"
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> and gives you:
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> something = somethingelse a list and more
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> "something = somethingelse a list and more"
10:12 <Your_mom_arma> oh, and strip kills the whitespace
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> exactly, yes
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> so now you can do this:
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> if theResult.startswith('['):
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> that lets you test for the [section] parts of the file
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> then you trim out the brackets with a simple slice:
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> nationline[1:len(nationline)-2]
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> now you have "section", where before you had "[section]"
10:14 <Your_mom_arma> wouldn't it be -1 not -2?
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, this is where the 0-based thing screws you
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> len(nationline) gives the total number of characters in the string
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> but the last character is at position len(nationline)-1
10:15 <Your_mom_arma> okay
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> you want to trim out the last character, so you do another -1, giving you -2 :)
10:19 <P4> .armalize Hi there
10:20 <epsy> ...
10:20 <tronner> epsy, ...
10:20 <tronner> There of hello
10:20 <P4> epsy what's up? :}
10:20 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah...i should be used to that because java passes by reference too
10:20 <epsy> hay P4
10:20 <epsy> nothing :P
10:20 <P4> .czesc epsy
10:20 <tronner> epsy: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
10:20 <epsy> :)
10:20 <P4> ^^
10:20 <epsy> .help czesc
10:21 <tronner> epsy: (czesc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo @1: $nick wants me to tell you [colorize Hello!]".
10:21 <epsy> .colorize Hello!
10:21 <tronner> epsy: Hello!
10:21 <P4> not here :}
10:21 <P4> +c flag
10:21 <Lucifer_arma> great, more botsturbation
10:21 <epsy> Indeed!
10:21  * GodTodd botsturbates.
10:21 <GodTodd> !weather 75023
10:21 <BotSub> GodTodd: The current temperature in Near Custer and Parker, Plano, Texas is 70.3°F (3:24 AM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.18 in 988.0 hPa (Steady).  Air pollution watch level Orange in effect from 7 am CDT Tuesday through Tuesday afternoon...
10:22 <epsy> are colors diabled here ?
10:22 <epsy> hmm lol
10:22 <GodTodd> i didn't fart *that* badly :/
10:22 <epsy> err, did it color or not ?
10:22 <GodTodd> the channel is set to no colors
10:22 <epsy> (when i said « <epsy> are colors diabled here ? »
10:22 <P4> +c flag onchannel protect colors
10:22 <epsy> ok
10:22 <P4> .tea
10:22 <tronner> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
10:23 <P4> anyone for tea?
10:23 <GodTodd> earl grey?
10:23 <P4> fortress one :)
10:23 <epsy> P4, ok
10:23 <P4> ok cya there
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10:27 <Your_mom_arma> I'll try to figure this out tomorrow
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10:33 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: kicking still?
10:34 <epsy> CT|P4, lagged
10:44 <GodTodd> a little bit
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> svn update and look at the layout of the gui?
10:45 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: did you see new spidey's rank?
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: yeah, and I googled it, but didn't understand it :)
10:45 <guru3> awww :<
10:45 <guru3> it's playing word games
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> maybe when I'm not so sleepy it'll make sense :)
10:46 <guru3> z-man might get it
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> I just usually only read the forums when I'm real sleepy, heh
10:46 <GodTodd> 24% being what? % of total turn time done?
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> turnover, when the server does end-of-turn stuff
10:46 <GodTodd> ahh
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> the top progress bar is the turn timer
10:46 <guru3> i'm just avoiding studying right now
10:46 <guru3> my last exam is in the afternoon -_-
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I hate that last minute studying
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> I've vowed to never do it again, and make sure I've studied enough that I won't feel like I have to do last-minute studying
10:47 <guru3> my exam is in like 4hours -_-
10:47 <guru3> it's not exactly last minute yet
10:47 <guru3> last minute is like half an hour before
10:48 <guru3> that i don't do
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: I figure we'll have a "players must all say they're ready for the turn to proceed" to offset emergency breaks when the turn timeout is on
10:48 <guru3> but i consider 4 hours before fair game
10:48 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: sounds fair
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'm talking about same-day studying, actually
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: it'll be configurable, but the ui has to show it for it to happen :)
10:48 <guru3> bah
10:48 <GodTodd> right
10:48 <guru3> i'd fail without that Lucifer_arma
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking a voting mechanism, just built in there
10:49 <GodTodd> there going to be more stuff going on that sidebar next to the map widget?
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: so would I, unless I did my studying on time
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, soon as we know what to put there :)
10:49 <GodTodd> figured as much :)
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> it might make more sense to put a toolbox there instead and put this dashboard stuff in one of the toolbox's panes
10:50 <GodTodd> hmmm
10:50 <GodTodd> perhaps
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> or we might collapse that box as small as possible and put a toolbox over it
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> better yet, make it a dockwidget :)
10:50 <Lucifer_arma> so you could pull it out into its own window if you prefer
10:51 <GodTodd> dockwidget might work well
10:51 <guru3> i just have trouble studying properly
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: I've developed really bad study habits :(
10:51 <guru3> i don't have study habits
10:51 <guru3> because i don't study
10:51 <GodTodd> man...i have to try and squeeze some studying in tomorrow :/
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> I need to get rid of them and replace them with good study habits, like, you know, studying the lecture the day after it instead of the day before the test studying all lectures
10:51 <GodTodd> first calc test....think i'ma take it on wednesday
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> (with some studying of the lecture the day it happens)
10:52 <guru3> i managed pretty well last semester
10:52 <guru3> im interested to see how i do this semeseter
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> every lecture you're supposed to break up into like 3 study sessions for the following week
10:52 <guru3> yeah 60% of our modules are supposed to be self studyi think
10:53 <guru3> i just really wish they'd assign reading
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, what killed my studying was that trig class.  It was too easy, it let me establish the pattern of doing all homework on sunday
10:53 <guru3> instead of saying 'here are a bunch of books that may or may not have to do wit what im teaching'
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:53 <guru3> because i'm going to read 3 300 page books on engineering
10:53 <guru3> per module
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> ow
10:53 <guru3> (6 modules)
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully there's a lot of overlap :)
10:54 <guru3> for the like 2 chapters that may or may not be relavent
10:54 <guru3> which i'll only know when i finish the module what was relevent
10:54 <guru3> at which point i'd have forgotten what i read
10:54 <guru3> and wouldn't be able to read it properly again
10:54 <guru3> so i'm better off not doing the reading
10:54 <guru3> and instead making stuff up
10:54 <guru3> and paying attention in lectures
10:54 <GodTodd> i get more out of lectures than reading
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> me too, actually
10:55 <guru3> me three
10:55 <Lucifer_arma> reading assignments work so poorly for me that I'd rather just take really detailed notes so the teacher can't tell the difference
10:56 <GodTodd> problems arise when the lectures happen before 9am tho ;)
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> what really irritates me isn't the reading in the math and stuff, it's the "we want you to get interested in reading" bs that happens in the english/history/etc classes
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> because it's a community college and the kids there blahblah
10:56 <guru3> i have nothing but engineering modules tho
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> lucky you
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> :)
10:56 <guru3> that's why im studying in england
10:56 <guru3> and not the us
10:57 <guru3> so i can dispence with english, spanish, history
10:57 <guru3> and all the stuff i'm really horifically bad at
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, if they did a good job teaching that shit in high school and earlier, they wouldn't need to deal with it in college!
10:57 <GodTodd> yeah but on the plus side...we don't have to read 5400 pages to get 2 that may or may not be relevant :P
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> they don't even have to do a good job, they can do a mediocre job and get it done
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh, that's a good point, GodTodd (hi there!) :)
10:58 <GodTodd> :)
10:58 <guru3> people taking biology that ive talked to
10:58 <guru3> they're told what pages to read
10:58 <guru3> im sort of jealous
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> blech, biologists
10:58 <guru3> except biology drives me nuts
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> what do you expect?
10:58 <guru3> everything to be placed in my lap!
10:58 <guru3> or on the desk right in front of me
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> then be a biologist or go to a strip club
10:58 <GodTodd> then you come to the us
10:58 <GodTodd> heh
10:59 <guru3> haha
10:59 <guru3> i'll manage some how
10:59 <guru3> i'm usually told im quite clever
10:59 <guru3> it's becoming a world wide misconception
10:59 <GodTodd> who'd you fool?
10:59 <guru3> everyone thinks im smart :<
10:59 <GodTodd> :D
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm off to bed
11:00 <GodTodd> me too methinks
11:00 <guru3> good inght
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't quite finish what I'd hoped to finish, but I'm happy with what I did
11:00 <guru3> *night
11:00 <guru3> i'll be forced to study then
11:00 <GodTodd> btw...ui is coming along nicely :)
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> heh, have fun with that :)
11:00 <guru3> because hydraulics is loads of fun
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11:04 <P4> .ct
11:04 <tronner> Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (1/14): [NC]Harlequin *** Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem: No online players. *** Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players. *** Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight: No online players. *** Chico's Brake Boost Styball: No online players.
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11:04 <MrBougo> hello
11:04 <P4> .czesc MrBougo
11:04 <tronner> MrBougo: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
11:04 <MrBougo> :(
11:04 <MrBougo> .help czesc
11:04 <tronner> MrBougo: (czesc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo @1: $nick wants me to tell you [colorize Hello!]".
11:04 <P4> MrBougo: register to the bot and spam him provately ;}
11:04 <MrBougo> .help colorize
11:04 <tronner> MrBougo: (colorize <text>) -- Returns <text> with each character randomly colorized.
11:05 <MrBougo> but i cant see the colorized coz the mezssage is highlighted :§
11:05 <P4> lol
11:05 <P4> it doesnt metter
11:05 <P4> just here is +c flag
11:05 <P4> like no colors on channel
11:05 <P4> but who cares about colors :P
11:05 <MrBougo> is it?
11:05 <MrBougo>  testy
11:05 <MrBougo> oh right
11:06 <MrBougo>  bah
11:06 <MrBougo> this was blue
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11:40 <MrBougo> epsy: .?
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11:48 <MrBougo> bye
11:48 <MrBougo> hello DrJoeTron
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11:54 <epsy> are colors diabled here ?
11:55 <guru3> seems like it
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12:05 <eddiefantastic> hello
12:10 <DrJoeTron> is that a bad thing?
12:10 <DrJoeTron> i think not
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12:23 <epsy> hay eddiefantastic
12:59 <epsy> !delire
12:59 <BotSub> Fasten you seat belt NOW, i'm kicking you...3...2...1...0
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13:39 <eddiefantastic> hi epsy
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15:01 <ghableska> .#weather 50266
15:01 <tronner> Dunno.
15:02 <ghableska> !weather 50266
15:02 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 61.0°F (7:59 AM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 28.88 in 977.9 hPa (Falling).
15:04 <ghableska> .tea
15:04 <ghableska> !tea
15:04 <BotSub> ghableska: Error: "tea" is not a valid command.
15:04 <tronner> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
15:04 <ghableska> aw
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15:52 <ghableska> hi max
15:52 <epsy> hay
15:54 <ghableska> hi epsy
15:54 <epsy> hay ghab
15:55 <madmax|pt> hello
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16:28 <kidanger> !list
16:28 <BotSub> kidanger: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Geekquote, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Weather
16:28 <kidanger> !user
16:28 <BotSub> kidanger: (user [<channel>] <name>) -- Returns the last time <name> was seen and what <name> was last seen saying. This looks up <name> in the user seen database, which means that it could be any nick recognized as user <name> that was seen. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
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17:41 <guru3> Done with exams!
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18:17 <vinavil> welcome
18:21 <Hay-Lin>  /msg nickserv register <insertyourpasswordhere>
18:22 <P4> .czesc Hay-Lin
18:22 <P4> :}
18:22 <tronner> Hay-Lin: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
18:22 <Hay-Lin> Hi
18:38 <epsy> hay Hay-Lin :)
18:38 <epsy> (vinavil, i saw the ping_charity yesterday, you haxxor)
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18:38 <vinavil> epsy: what do you mean?
18:39 <epsy> you did set ping_charity_server to something like 15 xD
18:41 <vinavil> i didn't
18:41 <vinavil> maybe maz did
18:41 <vinavil> mazuffer: did you change ping_charity_server?
18:42 <epsy> well, i recived just before my leave, a server setting change, « ping_charity changed from 16 to 17 as of the server's decision» , that explains why i was complaing about 1 second lags
18:43 <vinavil> hmmm
18:43 <vinavil> i never changed it
18:44 <epsy> oh well
18:44 <epsy> nvm
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19:01 <MaZuffeR> vinavil: no, i didn't change anything
19:03 <vinavil> mazuffer: i supposed it
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19:33 <MrBougo> hello
19:33 <MrBougo> epsy?
19:35 <epsy> yup ?
19:35 <epsy> MrBougo,
19:37 <MrBougo> tried my mod? :p
19:37 <MrBougo> but i messed up, i wanted to do slow bullets with the blaster
19:38 <MrBougo> i set the var to 1 and they dont move, and on the one i gave to you it's kind of instant hit
19:38 <MrBougo> when it doesnt move it's funnier
19:38 <MrBougo> you can run very fast and shoot, and you see all the curves and stuff
19:40 <MrBougo> epsy: here is the fixed version: http://rapidshare.com/files/35414021/bahbah.zip.html
19:40 <MrBougo> just use your blaster, shoot, and run and sprint and jump and stuff
19:41 <epsy> wait :P
19:41 <MrBougo> /devmap some map (/devmap <tab> to get a list) and /god if you don't like gravity :p
19:42 <MrBougo> is nexuiz using the Q3 engine?
19:42 <mkzelda> ooo i like nexuiz :D
19:43 <epsy> no
19:43 <epsy> a modified version of q1 xD
19:43 <epsy> lol i was playing the sp campaign and i got to level 6
19:44 <epsy> it's real trash xD
19:44 <epsy> did you tried the bluesky map ?
19:44 <epsy> i love it :D
19:45 <MrBougo> epsy: i've only tried nexuiz online
19:46 <MrBougo> and a while ago
19:46 <MrBougo> before trying armagetron i think
19:47 <MrBougo> 272 MB, its huge
19:47 <epsy> :P
19:48 <MrBougo> :p
19:48 <MrBougo> epsy, try my mod D:
19:48 <MrBougo> i had much fun on transit with it xD
19:48 <MrBougo> you can use stairs near human base as a launchpad
19:48 <epsy> brb :P
19:48 <vinavil> could anyone help me for a cgi:irc problem?
19:48 <epsy> can you wallwalk on it ?
19:48 <MrBougo> nopez
19:48 <epsy> vinavil, use a real cient
19:48 <epsy> brb
19:48 <MrBougo> it's only a variable change
19:49 <vinavil> epsy: i do, but someone could not
19:49 <MrBougo> -vinavil- VERSION Opera/9.20 (X11; Linux i686; U; it)
19:49 <luke-jr_work> Opera isn't a real client
19:49 <luke-jr_work> :p
19:49 <MrBougo> :D
19:49 <vinavil> it is
19:49 <MrBougo> aw
19:49 <vinavil> it has chat
19:49 <MrBougo> it wasnt designed to be a client
19:49 <vinavil> ?
19:49 <luke-jr_work> opera is a sucky browser that wants to be everything
19:49 <luke-jr_work> :)
19:49 <vinavil> sure it was
19:49 <MrBougo> it was designed for browsing, right?
19:50 <vinavil> nope
19:50 <MrBougo> the chat is a secundary feature
19:50 <vinavil> it is a suite
19:50 <MrBougo> bah
19:50 <vinavil> that is the reason why i use it
19:50 <MrBougo> you said it
19:50 <MrBougo> it's a suite
19:50 <vinavil> because i have all in one
19:50 <MrBougo> can be good, but if you want some advanced irc, use clients that are only clients
19:51 <luke-jr_work> suites tend to suck
19:51 <luke-jr_work> unless they're designed right
19:51 <vinavil> i used irssi, but now i feel good with opera
19:51 <MrBougo> and not clients and pdf viewers and fortran compiler
19:51 <luke-jr_work> eg, as individual programs
19:51 <MrBougo> all at the same time
19:51 <P4> .tea
19:51 <tronner> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
19:51 <MrBougo> wait guys i'm compiling my fortran script
19:51 <luke-jr_work> KDE is a good example of a well designed software collection
19:51 <vinavil> i reallt find nothing bad to make thing easier
19:51 <MrBougo> /fcomp somerandomsourcecode.somerandomextension
19:52 <P4> isn't fortran a bit outdated, like cobol, MrBougo? :}
19:52 <MrBougo> /fcompstatus
19:52 <MrBougo> Compiling: 50%
19:52 <luke-jr_work> P4: so is IRC :p
19:52 <MrBougo> i know P4 :p
19:52 <P4> :P
19:52 <MrBougo> that's why i used it as example
19:52 <luke-jr_work> IRC was replaced with XMPP MUC
19:52 <MrBougo> just imagine an IRC client + PDF viewer + fortran compiler
19:52 <MrBougo> doesnt it look lame?
19:53 <vinavil> anyway opera is not my problem, anybody can help with cgi:irc?
19:53 <luke-jr_work> or even a PDF viewer + JPG viewer
19:53 <MrBougo> P4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran#Fortran_2008
19:53 <MrBougo> now what's this o.O
19:53 <luke-jr_work> KDE is better designed such that there's a single viewer supporting modules :)
19:54 <P4> my mom programmed Odra's machines with fortran :}
19:55 <P4> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odra_1305 <=- exactly this one
19:55 <MrBougo> my mom did some programming too :p
19:55 <MrBougo> we were born in geeky families
19:55 <MrBougo> my dad did some too
19:55 <MrBougo> jesus, i want one
19:55 <MrBougo> it'll fit perfectly in my room xD
19:56 <luke-jr_work> MrBougo: I have a 79" server rack :)
19:56 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIVAC_I yay
19:56 <MrBougo> do you luke-jr_work
19:56 <luke-jr_work> 42U
19:56 <MrBougo> crazy :D
19:56 <P4> MrBougo: but i still like my oldschool schneider :D http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafika:Amstrad_CPC_6128.jpg
19:56 <luke-jr_work> yep
19:56 <luke-jr_work> only 5Us filled
19:57 <MrBougo> yay! mellomaniaç
19:57 <MrBougo> -ç
19:57 <MrBougo> +!
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19:57 <luke-jr_work> ☠
19:57 <epsy> MrBougo, WHY ARE YOU USING RAPIDSHARE
19:57 <epsy> it sux
19:57 <MrBougo> I DONT KNOW
19:57 <luke-jr_work> ☠☠☠
19:57 <MrBougo> HELP ME DDDDD:
19:57 <MrBougo> wtf luke?
19:57 <vinavil> i'll try again, is anybody able to help me with cgi:irc?
19:58 <epsy> how i donwload your file with it
19:58 <luke-jr_work> ☠ arrr ☠
19:58 <MrBougo> lol
19:58 <epsy> it wants me to subscrib
19:58 <MrBougo> it looks crazy on xchat
19:58 <MrBougo> aw
19:58 <luke-jr_work> broken Xchat
19:58 <MrBougo> you dont have to
19:58 <MrBougo> just hit "free"
19:58 <luke-jr_work> or maybe you didn't configure it
19:58 <MrBougo> no, it looks crazy but it's ok!
19:58 <MrBougo> i see bones and stuff i dont know how it's called
19:58 <luke-jr_work> ...
19:58 <tronner> luke-jr_work, ...
19:58 <MrBougo> in english
19:58 <luke-jr_work> skull & crossbones
19:59 <MrBougo> i see that indeed :p
19:59 <MrBougo> i see what you said
19:59 <luke-jr_work> ☺
19:59 <epsy> DAMN I DON'T WANT TO UPLOAD A FILE ON THEIR SITE I WANT TO DOWNLOAD IT -.-
19:59 <luke-jr_work> ♬
19:59 <luke-jr_work> ☃
20:00 <luke-jr_work> ★
20:00 <epsy>    ҈
20:00 <MrBougo> epsy :(
20:00 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Early_computers
20:00 <luke-jr_work> epsy: block
20:00 <MrBougo> sweet
20:00 <epsy> o҈
20:00 <MrBougo>   ҈
20:00 <MrBougo> wtf!
20:00 <MrBougo> where did you get these chars? :p
20:00 <epsy> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_des_caract%C3%A8res_unicode
20:00 <vinavil> thanks
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20:01 <MrBougo>     
20:01 <epsy> INdeed!
20:01 <epsy> arf
20:01 <luke-jr_work> kcharselect
20:02 <MrBougo> epsy, click the link, hit free, enter the code then click download
20:02 <MrBougo> or give me some better uploading stuff
20:02 <MrBougo> 
20:02 <MrBougo> rofl
20:03 <MrBougo>  attack ennemy base!
20:03 <MrBougo> what the hell!
20:03 <MrBougo> 
20:03 <MrBougo> what the.... hell!
20:03  * akira_ slaps MrBougo
20:03  * MrBougo slaps akira_'s 
20:03 <epsy> MrBougo, what things did you changed ?
20:03 <MrBougo> sprint speed and blaster options
20:04 <epsy> MrBougo, it's pretty hard to download a single file
20:04 <MrBougo> just shoot with blaster and moove around, sprinting or not
20:04 <MrBougo> do you guys see that unicode char? 
20:04 <MrBougo> it looks gross
20:04 <epsy> LOL!
20:04 <MrBougo> jesus
20:04 <MrBougo> 
20:04 <MrBougo> what kind of silly guy added this to unicode
20:05 <epsy> i found a pretty sucky map for it xD
20:05 <MrBougo> highrise? :p
20:05 <epsy> traininggrounds_1
20:05 <MrBougo> use (les plans inclinés) as launchpad
20:06 <epsy> uh
20:06 <epsy> what map are you talking about ?
20:07 <MrBougo> i dotn know
20:07 <MrBougo> maps where there are plans inclinés
20:07 <MrBougo> cant translate this
20:07 <epsy> txD
20:07 <MrBougo> do you guys see that unicode: 
20:07 <MrBougo> 
20:07 <MrBougo> pulp?
20:10 <epsy> no
20:10  * akira_ slaps MrBougo
20:11 <mkzelda> woooot
20:11 <epsy> MrBougo, ok, do we try in lan ?
20:12 <MrBougo> err in lan? lan is private, isnt it?
20:12 <MrBougo> just tell me what i gotta do :p
20:12 <MrBougo> aww i gtg
20:12 <MrBougo> later, epsy
20:13 <epsy> oh
20:15 <MrBougo> epsy, did you see my unicode chars?
20:15 <MrBougo> i don't get it, they are so stupid
20:16 <mkzelda> i just see blocks
20:16 <mkzelda> someone set us up the ?
20:17 <MrBougo> :(
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20:57 <madmax|pt> people who enter Fortress Cafe and immediately say "I def" are pretty funny
21:01 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nexuiz/2007-06-05_20-52_silvercity.dem
21:03 <mkzelda> luke-jr_ ping
21:07 <P4> epsy: how to open that .dem file?
21:08 <epsy> put it in .nexuiz/nexuiz/demo/
21:08 <epsy> then open nexuiz and play it back
21:08 <P4> wth is nexuiz
21:08 <P4> :P
21:09 <epsy> http://nexuiz.com/
21:09 <mkzelda> a sweet fps based on q1
21:24 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: pong
21:25 <mkzelda> hey
21:26 <mkzelda> was looking command to look for ';' and remove it and everything after it...  ie "Great Wall ; Yes, we had own great wall (WaÅ^Ây Å^ÚlÄ^Åskie)"
21:26 <mkzelda> tho it only occurred once so i just manually typed the value
21:26 <mkzelda> so wonder="Great Wall"
21:26 <mkzelda> heh
21:26 <mkzelda> if then wonder="Great Wall"... but i'd still like to know how to do that w/ sed
21:28 <luke-jr_work> sed -r 's,^([^;]*[^ ;])(;.*)?,\1,;t;d'
21:29 <luke-jr_work> nope
21:30 <luke-jr_work> sed -r 's,^([^;]*[^\s;])\s*(;.*)?,\1,;t;d' <<<'Great Wall ; Yes, we had own great wall (WaÅ^Ây Å^ÚlÄ^Åskie)'
21:30 <mkzelda> ty
21:30 <luke-jr_work> it deletes any blank or comment-only lines
21:30 <luke-jr_work> too
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21:31 <mkzelda> now that i've finished it, ima restructure it so that it cleans up the files b4 evaluating, so i dont do that for every variable
21:32 <mkzelda> even tho its only 85 small text files and takes 5 secs to complete
21:32 <mkzelda> its sloppy as is
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21:55 <Vanhayes> .tea
21:55 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): -*SpankyHam*-, angry n:00b, Gonzap, hoop, K-Yo, Kicked Player 1, mata, Monkey, pavelo, Sithy, starGaming, wd, ~*wHaTuP*~
21:55 <Vanhayes> !tea
21:55 <BotSub> Vanhayes: Error: "tea" is not a valid command.
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22:28 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, what was I going to work on today?  :/
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22:29 <guru3-uni> Hostname: lignonberry - OS: Linux 2.6.13-gentoo-r3/x86_64 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-60 Dual Core Processor  (2613.434 MHz) - Processes: 122 - Uptime: 10m - Load Average: 2.20 - Memory Usage: 280.31MB/2006.89MB (13.97%) - Disk Usage: 1567.48GB/2012.23GB (77.90%)
22:29 <guru3-uni> i've hit the 2TB mark :D
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22:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah yeah, I needed to make the matching event for the message
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> there has to be an easier way to do this
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23:43 <Vanhayes> .tea
23:43 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -HsP- Dal, Anun, BamBoy, G5, Hask, JESUS, Monkey, Ossi, rambo{bansky}, van Nelle, WebGamer, }-HaWk~}}, ¦Ö¦GoAX, ¦×¥ Legit, °¯SageLord
23:47 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: script is in working order, i plan to improve it but it works as is
23:47 <mkzelda> output is as desired
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> hey, that's good news
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> I'm getting bit on the ass by a simple "Ready" button :/
23:47 <mkzelda> so long as you dont have a different nation set than me
23:47 <mkzelda> lol
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> I can get one to match :)
23:47 <mkzelda> its the simple stuff that pisses u off
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's more stuff to work out
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> the network layer has no concept of players, only connections
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> but ideally, when an event that originates in the network layer arrives in the simulation, it should have the player in it and not the connection
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> so I just have to add a little dealie when the event is put in the list of events to process to have it match up the event to a player so the simulation doesn't have to deal with it
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23:51 <Lucifer_arma> it'll probably be easier when I make messages capable of returning themselves in event form
23:52 <mkzelda> just drop it in your nation dir
23:52 <luke-jr_work> omg
23:53 <luke-jr_work> Gentoo's portage tree is 1 GB now
23:53 <luke-jr_work> any ideas on getting a CPU+mobo for under $92?
23:53 <Lucifer_arma> drop it in there?  Can I just run it from in there?
23:54 <mkzelda> yea
23:54 <mkzelda> intel or amd?
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> committed
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> thanks!  :)
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> I'll run it in a bit
23:55 <mkzelda> k
23:56 <mkzelda> i didnt fully check all 85 for validity so if u find a nation that has something screwy let me know
23:56 <mkzelda> i checked about 10 here and there as i went
23:56 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: AMD?
23:56 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: doesn't matter too much
23:57 <mkzelda> Chaintech MK8T890 Socket 754 motherboard, AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU, and CPU heatsink fan. $89
23:57 <mkzelda> 754 tho :/
23:58 <mkzelda> Biostar 6100-M9 Socket 939 motherboard, AMD Sempron 3000+ CPU, and CPU heatsink fan, onboard nvidia 6100 and pci-e 16x ... $99, if u can scrounge up $7
23:59 <mkzelda> MSI K8NGM2 Socket 939 motherboard, AMD Sempron 3000+ CPU, and CPU heatsink fan, onboard nvidia 6150/6100 and pci-e 16x. $89

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00:01 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: my portage tree is only ~600mb
00:01 <mkzelda> u counting distfiles or distfiles/cvs-or-svn-src
00:01 <luke-jr_work> for comparison, the lowest I have right now is a
00:02 <luke-jr_work> socket 754 3100+ for $93
00:03 <mkzelda> any of those 3 interest u?
00:04 <luke-jr_work> if they include a CPU heatsink/fan that's small enough
00:04 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:05 <mkzelda> set top box?
00:05 <luke-jr_work> 1U
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00:05 <mkzelda> oh
00:05 <ghableska> !weather 50266
00:05 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 76.6°F (5:04 PM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM to 10 PM CDT Wednesday...
00:05 <mkzelda> yea i doubt that its small enough for that
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00:06 <mkzelda> they dont specify what kind of heatsink/fan but its just a generic, prolly the one that comes w/ the cpu
00:07 <luke-jr_work> hm
00:07 <luke-jr_work> the $93 one I put together on newegg includes 1U fan
00:07 <luke-jr_work> and shipping
00:07 <mkzelda> sounds like a winner then
00:08 <luke-jr_work> hm
00:08 <mkzelda> u have to put a vid card on it tho?
00:08 <luke-jr_work> know any coupon codes
00:08 <luke-jr_work> I don't need video out
00:08 <luke-jr_work> SSH LiveCD :D
00:08 <mkzelda> didnt figure
00:09 <mkzelda> nah, no coupon codes
00:10 <luke-jr_work> I hope 200W is enough...
00:12 <mkzelda> sempron 3100+ ?
00:12 <mkzelda> and what hds?
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00:18 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: already have 80 GB HD
00:18 <luke-jr_work> not sure on brand etc
00:18 <luke-jr_work> unfortunately, even at $93 I'm over budget
00:18 <luke-jr_work> since PSU was about $10
00:19 <luke-jr_work> unless I sell the 4 extras at a profit... then it's $-9.50 :p
00:19 <luke-jr_work> but I blew a PSU last night
00:22 <luke-jr_work> any other good sites for parts besides newegg?
00:28 <mkzelda> zipzoomfly, 3btech, usually reference pricewatch
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh, player ready button toggle is reaching the server finally
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01:54 <Lucifer_arma> haha, the thing is designed so luke can't spam us :)
01:55  * P4 is listening to DJ Guyver & DJ Zurg - Neophyte World Tour Moscow 2006 right now.
01:55 <P4> ;D
01:56 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you guys spam more than I do
01:56 <P4> i just go to sleep :P so night :}
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> really?  so every time we play freeciv, you only hit "start game" once, and we all hit it hundreds of times?
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> for eugenics it'll be a toggle instead.  So once you hit it, if you hit it a second time it means you're not ready any more
02:00 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: that's how it is in Freeciv...
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> maybe freeciv 2.1, but we (I) haven't played a lot of freeciv 2.1
02:05 <Vanhayes> ya 2.1 makes it just say ready by your name iirc
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> now I need a player sync message
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> first I need a cigarrette
02:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: if I write the XMPP, will you use it?
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> depends entirely on how it looks
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> and dependencies
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm about to go to xml for the messages themselves, though, because the player sync message needs more sophisticated parsing than I'm doing so far
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> but it would be shoe-in if it also had a method like GetEvent() that converted the message to an event.  That's next on my list for the network layer, translating itself to events as well as encoding for transmission, but I want to do other stuff first
02:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: can I have a branch to work on so you can comment on it?
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm, maybe?  :)
02:25 <luke-jr_> ...
02:25 <tronner> luke-jr_, ...
02:25 <luke-jr_> tronner: stfu
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> just do an svn copy from my repo to your own.  You do have your own svn server, right?
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah, now I have to do unicode support in the network layer too
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> (isn't hard, just a couple of lines)
02:27 <luke-jr_> not really
02:27 <luke-jr_> and wouldn't I lose the history?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but is that such a big loss?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> see, I have to weigh this against giving someone I don't really trust write access to my svn server, which I don't really want to do
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> nor do I want to spend a lot of time on this, so however you go about writing the code is up to you
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take diffs
02:41 <luke-jr_> not my fault you don't trust me
02:41 <luke-jr_> and there's always per-directory acls
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02:42 <Lucifer_arma> [19:43] <Lucifer_arma> nor do I want to spend a lot of time on this
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02:58 <kamp> aw
02:58 <kamp> no one here?
02:58 <ghableska> hi kamp
02:58 <kamp> hey mang
02:58 <kamp> move from des moines yet?
02:58 <ghableska> no...
02:59 <kamp> masochist
02:59 <ghableska> :p
02:59 <kamp> how's your summer goin
02:59 <ghableska> well, I had my finals last week and monday
02:59 <ghableska> and now I'm free!
03:00 <kamp> i'm not
03:00 <kamp> :(
03:00 <kamp> summer classes have been in swing for about three weeks now :)
03:01 <ghableska> ha
03:01 <kamp> yep
03:01 <kamp> any plans for the summer?
03:01 <ghableska> none at all
03:02 <kamp> get
03:02 <kamp> a
03:02 <kamp> job
03:02 <kamp> :)
03:02 <ghableska> heh
03:02 <ghableska> *maybe*
03:02 <kamp> which grade are you in?
03:03 <ghableska> going to be in 11th
03:05 <kamp> get yourself a job
03:05 <kamp> get used to it :)
03:05 <ghableska> good point
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03:08 <kamp> yep
03:08 <kamp> just work like 20 hrs a week or something
03:09 <kamp> it's good to get some money anyway :)
03:09 <kamp> I'd recommend trying to work in a record store
03:09 <luke-jr_> I just made an amazing discovery
03:09 <kamp> I liked it: you get to find out about some new music
03:09 <luke-jr_> ATi Radeon X850 == AMD Athlon64 3200+
03:09 <kamp> ...
03:09 <tronner> kamp, ...
03:09 <luke-jr_> seriously
03:09 <kamp> tronner: ...?
03:10 <luke-jr_> I get the same FPS whether I use hw accel or software GL
03:10 <kamp> luke-jr_: how is that amazing?
03:10 <luke-jr_> i expected better from video card GPUs
03:11 <kamp> still waiting for an explanation on how this is amazing in any way shape or form
03:14 <kamp> ah forget it
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03:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh, now I have to write a lot of gui code to get the playersync to show
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03:31 <Lucifer_arma> ...
03:31 <tronner> Lucifer_arma, ...
03:32 <ghableska> tronner, ...
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: ...
03:32 <ghableska> !weather 50266
03:32 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.0°F (8:34 PM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM to 10 PM CDT Wednesday...
03:33 <Your_mom_arma> isn't wrtlprnft on vacation?(think that's why armabot is gone?)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> far as I know, he went to italy for a little while
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> and is away from internet, so he can't fix armabot
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love the model/view stuff in qt, but writing a new model is always a pain
03:35  * Lucifer_arma goes to see if qabstractlistmodel supports multiple columns
03:37 <ghableska> http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page <-- o_O
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> Everything you post must be true and verifiable.
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> then, later:
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> When referencing dates based on the approximate birth of Jesus, give appropriate credit for the basis of the date (B.C. or A.D.). "BCE" and "CE" are unacceptable substitutes because they deny the historical basis. See CE
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> so the conservapedia commandments are also self-contradictory :)
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> for some reason I want to see a liberapedia to offset conservapedia
03:48 <spidey> ghableska:
03:48 <ghableska> spidey:
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> wikipedia is only liberally biased because reality has a liberal bias
03:48 <ghableska> heh
03:48 <spidey> my pos ati card gave me a present
03:48 <spidey> hl2dm :D
03:48 <ghableska> grrr
03:49 <spidey> peoples with radeons get it free
03:49 <ghableska> I know :/
03:49 <spidey> i like it
03:49 <spidey> except that one gun
03:49 <spidey> all it does is glow
03:49 <spidey> and shake
03:50 <ghableska> the gravity gun?
03:50 <spidey> maybe
03:50 <ghableska> you're supposed to fling toilets at people using that
03:51 <spidey> o
03:51 <ghableska> is it orange-colored?
03:51 <spidey> ya
03:51 <ghableska> yeah, that's the grav gun
03:51 <spidey> cs:s bbl
03:51 <ghableska> right click to pick up an object, left click to launch it :D
03:51 <spidey> ah
04:09 <mkzelda> i get nothing when i go to the conservapedia
04:09 <mkzelda> page loads blank
04:10 <mkzelda> not even an <html></html>
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably for the best
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, eugenics has a player list now
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> going home
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04:46 <ghableska> !night
04:46 <BotSub> Goodnight ghableska :(
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) ping
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a start up a eugenics server again, I want to test the user list and the Ready button
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> then I'm a grab a smoke
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> svn update is needed
05:31 <Your_mom_arma> hmm... it isn't running
05:34 <Your_mom_arma> doesn't seem to be working :/
05:38 <GodTodd> spam alert:
05:38 <GodTodd> Traceback (most recent call last):
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "./eugenics", line 33, in <module>
05:38 <GodTodd>     from libeugenicsgui import mainqt
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/mainqt.py", line 32, in <module>
05:38 <GodTodd>     from libeugenicsgui.qt_proxy import QtProxy
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/qt_proxy.py", line 45
05:38 <GodTodd>     <<<<<<< .mine
05:38 <GodTodd>      ^
05:38 <GodTodd> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't get that
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> sure you updated?
05:40 <GodTodd> rev 40 now
05:40 <GodTodd> did it right before running
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> 40 should be the newest, and I don't have any files hanging around
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, line 45 doesn't have anything like that on it in that file
05:43 <GodTodd> <<<<<<< .mine
05:43 <GodTodd> that's my <<<<<<< .mineline 45
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> have you made any local edits?
05:43 <GodTodd> nopee
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that looks like a conflict marker
05:44 <GodTodd> just opened it up now for the first time
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> delete that file and the svn update again
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> er, hang on, found a new bug
05:46 <GodTodd> there we go...i rm'd anything starting with qt_proxy and then restored qt_proxy.py
05:46 <GodTodd> :)
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, svn update again to rev41 for the chat bug fix :)
05:47 <GodTodd> same bat channel?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> yessir
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> assuming my ip hasn't changed
05:49 <Your_mom_arma> still isn't running for me :(
05:49 <GodTodd> did you do what i did, mom?
05:50 <Your_mom_arma> where's qtproxy?
05:50 <GodTodd> libeugenicsgui
05:50 <GodTodd> directory
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05:52 <Your_mom_arma> still isn't working
05:52 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:52 <GodTodd> maybe do a completely clean co?
05:53 <Your_mom_arma> https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics right?
05:53 <GodTodd> looks right
05:54 <GodTodd> !alias add eugenicssvn echo https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
05:54 <BotSub> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
05:54 <GodTodd> !eugenicssvn
05:54 <BotSub> https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
05:54 <GodTodd> there :)
05:56 <Your_mom_arma> nope, still not working
05:56 <GodTodd> hrmmm
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> oh no! it's 667!!!
05:58 <GodTodd> across the way neighbor of the beast?
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> :)
06:00 <Your_mom_arma> well, acme and the script(the part that worked) still work so its not python
06:03  * Your_mom_arma shrugs
06:08 <GodTodd> hmm not sure :/
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06:55 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  problem?
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: did you manage to get any error output I could see?
07:01 <Your_mom_arma> when I try to run eugenics all I see is a command prompt pop up for half a second
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: fixed the boolean flag.  It was a client parser bug
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: try running it in a terminal so the command prompt stays up :)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> er, console
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> you've done that before, right?
07:03 <Your_mom_arma> ImportError: No module named win32api
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> oops
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> ok, update again
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's a module you can install if you want, but I don't remember where the download for it is
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I should've fixed it for you
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> does it work after updating?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> ah, nvm
07:11 <Your_mom_arma> I can see what you type, my chat doesn't go through
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: server's giving me a lot of traceback spam
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's having trouble unpacking the timestamp from your messages
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> weird
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> are you on a 64bit machine by any chance?
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> I wish
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> ppc?
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> nope, just a intel p4
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> an*
07:14 <Lucifer_arma>     self.timestamp = datetime.datetime(theField[4],theField[5],theField[6],theField[7],theField[8],theField[9],theField[10] )
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> ValueError: month must be in 1..12
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's when it's unpacking your chat messages
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> does mine just fine :/
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07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, let's try again
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> should I restart, or just reconnect?
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> reconnect
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> all I did was add some output to the server to help me see what's going on
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07:17 <MrBougo> hi there
07:17 <MrBougo> manta!
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> that's interesting
07:17 <manta> Hi mrbougo
07:17 <MrBougo> me? indeed
07:17 <MrBougo> hello :)
07:18 <MrBougo> what's interesting Lucifer_arma ?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: have you clicked the Ready button at all?
07:20  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it's making misshapped packets
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> clicking ready messed it up last time, a lot of my chat isn't going through
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> that little problem was supposed to be fixed
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's off by a byte one way or the other
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I need to fool with it some more now, thanks
07:23 <GodTodd> btw...in case we ever need it, i jumped on registering #eugenics
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> Had you pressed the ready button before you started losing packets?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> in the work I did today or late yesterday, I changed the chunk format, that's probably what's breaking it
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's breaking on reading, though
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> I think so... not 100% sure though
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like an off-by-one error
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> says the message is type 32, but the highest available message type is 4
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
07:25  * Lucifer_arma goes to check the formats again
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, no such luck
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> the right endian marks are there
07:26 <luke-jr_> Soylent Green iz ppl
07:26 <Your_mom_arma> !!!
07:26 <BotSub> ???
07:27 <Your_mom_arma> I love that movie
07:28 <manta> lets not get started on the nightmares it gave me, good movie though
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:28 <luke-jr_> that movie was boring
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> boo
07:28 <luke-jr_> of course, I already knew the end when I saw it
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, that's my biography
07:29 <luke-jr_> ...
07:29 <tronner> luke-jr_, ...
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like a byte order problem
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> but that would happen all the time.... :/
07:33 <MrBougo> bye all
07:34 <MrBougo> it's-a-chool-time!
07:34 <MrBougo> s*
07:34 <MrBougo> biology exam... yay... easy
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07:34 <Lucifer_arma> ok, try again whenever you're ready :)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect the code I wrote to fix this exact problem before just didn't work and we didn't have a good test before
07:35  * Lucifer_arma needs a way to simulate it
07:35 <Your_mom_arma> should I update?
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> no
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just adding comments on the server to try to track down what's going on
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> eek, I missed that last comment, mom
07:39 <Your_mom_arma> I hit ready, and nothing happened, then it lost the comment
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's just reading wrong when the whole chunk arrives in pieces.  It's supposed to cache what it has and read some more until it has enough
07:39 <Your_mom_arma> about that happening
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> but something's breaking somewhere in there, so it's reading it incorrectly
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> like maybe it's reading the header, then reading too far into the data chunk
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> which causes the next chunk to be misaligned
07:47 <mkzelda> nexuiz is awesome
07:54  * manta was pwning the first time I played, which leaves a good impression :) ut playes better over dialup though,  
07:55 <mkzelda> ive been finding that the netcode in nexuiz is best ive seen
07:56 <mkzelda> ut what version
07:56 <mkzelda> i used to play the original unreal on dialup a lot and did find it worked quite well w/ my other bud also on dialup
07:56 <mkzelda> now that i remember it
07:56 <mkzelda> but that was on my 233mhz w/ a voodoo2
07:57 <mkzelda> 64,96, or 128mb ram
07:57 <mkzelda> heh, that voodoo2 really lived up to its name
07:57 <mkzelda> it worked some magic to make a 233 perform well
07:57 <manta> ahhh those were the days
08:19 <spidey> O.o
08:20 <manta> has arma ever had trouble tacking up a large number of threads and not releasing them?
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11:00 <guru3> Should I be worried that a moviepack isn't working?
11:00 <guru3> Or rather that my copy of Armagetron seems to be entirely ignoring it?
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13:35 <Ady> hi guys, i need urgent help
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13:36 <epsy> hi
13:37 <Ady> yesterday the game had frozen while switching to a new round and i had to finalize the program with the task manager, since then it doesnt recognize my GPU, it recognizes Microsofts basic one installed on all windows machines, and with that one its impossible to play, before it recognixed my ati, now its all blue , going with microsoft's gdl, and my GPU works perfectly on other games, i tried reinstalling arma and no change, any help 
13:37 <epsy> hay Ady :)
13:37 <Ady> hi :(
13:38 <epsy> what version are oyu using ?
13:38 <Ady> 0.3
13:38 <Ady> im reinstalling my GPU drivers at the moment
13:39 <epsy> try upgrading to a new version, there was such problems on that version, or try downgrading to the stable version
13:39 <Ady> Ive used it since summer 06'
13:39 <epsy> (i personally had these)
13:39 <Ady> and no problems until now :(
13:39 <Ady> any developer could give me some help? ...
13:40 <epsy> you're ady-lucifer, right ?
13:40 <Ady> yes
13:40 <Ady> damn, port scan attack, why all today? ..
13:41 <epsy> what is your OS ? i suppose you're using windows, but it is xp, or vista ?
13:41 <Ady> #get quote 34
13:41 <Ady> xp sp2
13:41 <Ady> #quote 34
13:41 <epsy> ok
13:41 <Ady> #get q 34
13:41 <epsy> Ady, no bot for the moment
13:41 <Ady> ah
13:42 <epsy>  bit processor ?
13:42 <epsy> *
13:42 <epsy> *64
13:42 <Ady> its a p4 HT , think its 32 no? no idea about processors
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13:42 <epsy> pentium 4-m ?
13:42 <Ady> 4 HT normal pentium
13:43 <Ady> no m no dualcore
13:43 <epsy> i think it's p 4-m, as p 4 doesn't have HT
13:43 <epsy> (i have the same here :P )
13:43 <Ady> you know, 0.3 sometimes freezes when entering a server, that happened, but this time it fucked it up all
13:43 <Ady> pentium 4 has hyper threading tech !
13:43 <epsy> yeah, this is a known bug which has been fixed
13:43 <Ady> lol
13:43 <Ady> has been fixed???
13:44 <epsy> but i can't find out any recent build for windows
13:44 <epsy> yes
13:44 <Ady> on the beta page there are, but that client wont work for me
13:44 <Ady> blue screen and ms gdl 1.0 :P
13:44 <epsy> yeah, but these on that page are terribely old
13:44 <epsy> heh
13:44 <Ady> and where are the new ones? sourceforge?
13:45 <epsy> don't we have a buildbot ?
13:45 <Ady> mm...
13:45 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, do you remember ?
13:45 <epsy> wait i'ill look on the forums
13:45 <Ady> thanks
13:47 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ping :/
13:48 <epsy> hrm he's sleeping :D
13:48 <Ady> lol
13:48 <epsy> .m Lucifer_arma http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is timing out
13:48 <tronner> I have no idea, epsy.
13:49 <epsy> .tell Lucifer_arma http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is timing out
13:49 <Ady> i need to restart- ati drivers reinstalled, be right back in 5 min
13:50 <epsy> ok
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13:55 <Ady1> Hi again
13:56 <Ady1> Epsy, thanks for your help, reinstalling drivers helped Arma catch the GPU again
13:57 <Ady1> But im very interested in getting that version with the fixed bug, if you can help me with that it would be greeat :)
13:58 <epsy> yeah i'm installing a compiler on my windows machine
13:58 <epsy> downloading it now
14:00 <Ady1> mmh, thank you? lol thanks
14:02 <Ady1> epsy i think i got your msn, i will get connected there
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14:03 <epsy> Ady1, ok
14:03 <epsy> but it would be good if you saty on the channel :P
14:03 <Ady1> mmm, ok :)
14:03 <Ady1> i miss the "beep" sound here on new msg  :)
14:06 <Ady1> outch! the settings' fault! I ve reinstalled arma and put there in var my old folder with my config files etc, and it showd the same error! deleting the folder and creating a new clean one no problem..damn
14:07 <Ady1> right, forget that, still broken
14:08 <epsy> yeah i'm trying to build lastet trunk under windows(wow pretty hard)
14:08 <Ady1> o.O ... you dont have to if you dont want, i will find other games ....:( lol
14:10 <Ady1> well, i dont get it, it still catch my gpu as GDI Generic, from microsoft
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14:11 <Ady> m
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14:31 <epsy> Ady2, hold on :)
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14:45 <Ady> epsy , hows it going?
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15:00 <epsy> Ady, confuse :P
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15:05 <epsy> DAMN I CAN'T EVEN RENAME A FILE WITH WINGBLOWS GRAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
15:19 <Ady> lol
15:20 <Ady> well, arma works fine, i dunno if i need to exploit you like that :)
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15:22 <ghableska> !weather 50266
15:22 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 59.7°F (8:24 AM CDT on June 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 28.75 in 973.5 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 10 PM CDT this evening...
15:22  * epsy is searching someone who knows how to compile something on wingblows
15:22 <ghableska> don't ask me :p
15:23 <P4> .weather katowice, poland
15:23 <tronner> P4: The current temperature in Katowice, Poland is 78.8°F (3:00 PM CEST on June 06, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
15:23 <P4> hmm, looks like it's bike's aura :}
15:29 <ghableska> bbl
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16:22 <Ady> .get quote 34
16:22 <tronner> Ady: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
16:22 <Ady> .quote 34
16:22 <tronner> No idea, Ady.
16:22 <Ady> :/
16:23 <Ady> .q 34
16:23 <tronner> Wish I knew.
16:23 <Ady> lol
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16:46 <guru3> Is it a bad sign when you can hear your computers standing outside your door?
16:55 <epsy> err
16:55 <epsy> wtf
17:03 <luke-jr_work> no
17:05 <epsy> http://www.flame-clan.eu/members/Flynn/Tremulous2.0-engine.gif
17:11 <luke-jr_work> NO
17:12 <epsy> heh
17:16 <luke-jr_work> ...no
17:16 <tronner> I have no idea, luke-jr_work.
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18:53 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: why are your computers standing outside your door?  Shouldn't they be in your room?
19:03 <epsy> .list user
19:03 <tronner> epsy: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
19:03 <epsy> .help tell
19:03 <tronner> epsy: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
19:03 <epsy> .list later
19:03 <tronner> epsy: notes and tell
19:04 <epsy> .notes Lucifer_arma
19:04 <tronner> epsy: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
19:04 <epsy> errr
19:04 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is times out,
19:04 <epsy> *-is
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: ahhh, where'd you get that link?
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> the one you want is http://waterfall.davefancella.com
19:14 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=12481&highlight=buildbot
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Project_Documentation
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> wiki overrules the forums because forum posts get stale while the wiki is updated regularly
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> :)
19:17 <epsy> :P
19:18  * Lucifer_arma quietly ignores that the wiki hadn't been updated with the new links either, but at least it had newer information than the forums
19:19 <luke-jr_work> grr
19:19 <epsy> hehehe
19:20 <luke-jr_work> is it possible to underclock DDR2 to DDR1?
19:20 <luke-jr_work> since DDR1 now costs 2x what DDR2 does
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I fixed whatever broke my buildslave the last time
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering moving my buildslave to a new box
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> you know, so it'll always be available
19:28 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: -_-
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19:31 <MrBougo> helo
19:31 <MrBougo> epsy: lan?
19:31 <MrBougo> epsy: mais quoi en lan au juste? xD
19:31 <MrBougo> nexuiz ou trem?
19:32 <epsy> ton mod de merde XD
19:32 <MrBougo> :D
19:32 <MrBougo> et comment tu veux faire ça en lan?
19:33 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
19:33 <MrBougo> c'est possible de simuler de la LAN par le net?
19:33 <MrBougo> hello ghableska
19:33 <epsy> bon just, jveux dire que je le lance ici et tu rejoins la partie
19:33 <MrBougo> en serveur internet
19:33 <MrBougo> mets-le private alors :p
19:33 <epsy> bofh
19:33 <epsy> je met un mot de passe et merde xD
19:33 <MrBougo> "et merde", bon pass
19:33 <luke-jr_work> hungary
19:34 <MrBougo> are you hungary luke-jr_work ?
19:34 <epsy> Indeed!
19:34 <luke-jr_work> no!
19:34 <luke-jr_work> digitx is hungary!
19:35 <MrBougo> luke-jr_work: i mean you wanna eat
19:35 <MrBougo> ok that wasnt fun
19:35 <MrBougo> epsy: tell me when your serv is up :p
19:35 <epsy> MrBougo, t'as le map « metro » ?
19:35 <MrBougo> yup
19:35 <epsy> ok
19:35 <MrBougo> perfect map :D
19:35 <MrBougo> i love it
19:35 <epsy> ;)
19:35 <MrBougo> "blahblahblah pickpoket"
19:35 <epsy> no, it's a bit unbalanced
19:36 <MrBougo> i mean perfect funny map
19:36 <MrBougo> very interesting design
19:36 <epsy> je le met ss mot de passe ?
19:36 <MrBougo> yup
19:36 <MrBougo> "et merde"
19:37 <epsy> ça démarre
19:37 <epsy> mais ça prend tjrs des heures à contacter le mastar
19:37 <MrBougo> :(
19:38 <MrBougo> tell me when it's up
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/stylesheet.html
19:39 <epsy> css on qt ?
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> yep
19:39 <epsy> (was just saying random crap)
19:39 <MrBougo> lol
19:39 <MrBougo> epsy: ?
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's amazing how much "random crap" is implemented in qt
19:39 <MrBougo> ça met tellement de temps? :p
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> Maintenant, au jourd'hui je ne suis pas l'idiote parce que l'idiote est tu.
19:41 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma...
19:41 <epsy> MrBougo, ok it doesn't work with password
19:41 <epsy> i just put it without one
19:41 <MrBougo> now, today, i'm not the dumb girl because the dumb girl is you
19:41 <epsy> « bogus's bahblah
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:42 <MrBougo> what did you mean luci
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> just random crap
19:42 <MrBougo> seems so...
19:42 <epsy> i forgot something
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, to make that gender-neutral I just make idiote into idiot ?
19:43 <epsy> MrBougo, cmon
19:43 <MrBougo> i dont see it epsy
19:44 <MrBougo> ima connect with IP
19:44 <epsy> epsy.is-a-geek.org
19:46 <MrBougo> awaiting connection
19:46 <epsy> hmm
19:46 <MrBougo> my firewall is ok
19:46 <MrBougo> maybe you should open your port
19:46 <epsy> no connection tries here
19:46 <MrBougo> 30720
19:46 <epsy> yeah
19:47 <MrBougo> epsy.is-a-geek.org:30720
19:47 <MrBougo> are you using ded server?
19:47 <epsy> no
19:47 <MrBougo> hehe
19:47 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: more of the same http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnP0snh_1cU
19:48 <epsy> MrBougo, udp or tcp ?
19:48 <MrBougo> still awaiting
19:48 <MrBougo> err dunno
19:48 <MrBougo> both? :p
19:48 <epsy> i was gonna say that :P
19:49 <epsy> brb, restarting router
19:49 <MrBougo> ok
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19:52 <epsy_> arrr
19:52 <MrBougo> hurr
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19:53 <ghableska> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15u6fHkICxc
19:53 <ghableska> hahahaha
19:54 <epsy> MrBougo, up
19:54 <epsy> tu viens de manquer le train
19:54 <epsy> xD
19:54 <epsy> ok c bon
19:54 <MrBougo> awaiting gamestate :D
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20:08 <epsy> ça t'as pas vré par hasard ?
20:08 <MrBougo> euh je load la map là
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20:23 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: Python's XML DOM thing isn't so great
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22:00 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -|ct|-ed-, .shoes, BamBoy, CT×W3V1, D!3N$, Ðûqkå, HoA¦Ö¦	~*SP*~Ps, john, K-Yo, pavelo, remote, ~{GP}~Spot, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥ Legit, °¯Pokemon!
22:01 <Monkeybutt> hi van
22:01 <Vanhayes> hi
22:08 <Monkeybutt> .tea
22:08 <tronner> Monkeybutt: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -|ct|-ed-, Cezonho, CT×W3V1, K-Yo, Mochamew, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~{GP}~Spot, ~|DS|~zion, ¦Ö¦Legit, ¦×¥.shoes, °°Gollow, °°MErD
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22:17 <epsy> .ping
22:17 <tronner> pong
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> man, this is a cool job
22:22  * Lucifer_arma is assembling a telescope that probably costs thousands of dollars :)
22:27 <guru3> and you're doing this while on irc
22:27 <guru3> i'm sure there are smoother ways of doing it -_-
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22:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's done, just need to balance it
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> but there's a lab now, and after it gets going I need to test the airtrack
23:13 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma, how many teams signed up for AFL?
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23:17 <Lucifer_arma> 4, last I checked
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> and roster's weren't final
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> which could be a problem, deadline was yesterday :/
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23:20 <harrydance> hello
23:20 <harrydance> anyone around?
23:20 <luke-jr_work> yes
23:20 <harrydance> :)
23:20 <luke-jr_work> about 24 people
23:20 <luke-jr_work> I hope I win
23:20 <luke-jr_work> the local LUG is giving away a Core 2 Quad
23:21 <harrydance> lug?
23:21 <luke-jr_work> Linux User Group
23:21 <harrydance> ahh okay
23:21 <harrydance> good luck then ;)
23:23 <harrydance> i came here to ask for a bit of help if anyones up to it? (n00b alert)
23:27 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma, so can people still sign up teams, or people then?
23:27 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:27 <tronner> luke-jr_work, ...
23:28 <madmax|pt> harrydance: ask it :P
23:28 <harrydance> ahhh
23:28 <harrydance> erm i posted in the forums one sec ill get the link
23:28 <harrydance> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=16771
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> harrydance: don't ask to ask, just ask
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> is that the "how do I get rubber in a local game" topic?
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> the one I just answered on the forums?
23:30 <madmax|pt> no
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, different one
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, the problem that I'm seeing is that XP Media Center is technically an unsupported platform :/
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think you're the first person to try it, or at least the first to try and then tell about it
23:31 <luke-jr_work> harrydance: install a Linux-based OS
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> try deleting your setup files and starting over
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> probably there's a default setting that's borked for some reason
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> we'll need the version of directx you have, precise OS version number, including build if there is one, video card specs, etc.
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> the whole shabang
23:32 <harrydance> any easy way for me to bring all that up?
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> version of opengl if there's a separate opengl installed
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> I have no idea.  Not only do I know nothing about windows, I know even less about XP media center
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> this is information you'll need to post with so that someone who *does* know can help :)
23:33 <harrydance> okay ill get to finding stuff out then
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> check the video card threads with a search for "video card"
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> there's some instructions that'll help buried in there somewhere ;)
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> some tool for directx that'll grab almost all of that info
23:41 <harrydance> "Another way is the "dxdiag" program." i think thats what you mena?
23:41 <harrydance> mean*
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23:44 <_Sticky_> .tea
23:44 <tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): -HsP- Dal, -]0a|Deidara, cos, dorkatee, G5, HoA¦Ö¦	john, Phantom, qYin, Vanhayes, [PwnZ0rD] -HAT-
23:44 <Vanhayes> pong
23:50 <harrydance> okay i put the diag results up in my post, if anyone fancies sneaking a peek?
23:50 <_Sticky_> fuck
23:51 <_Sticky_> just got banned from cafe fortress
23:51 <_Sticky_> for spaming my you must grind message
23:55 <Vanhayes> wasnt that only one time?
23:56 <_Sticky_> no i tried 3 times blocked the 2nd and kicked on the 3rd
23:56 <madmax|pt> "I AM KRABBELBABY"
23:56 <Vanhayes> 'heh, oh
23:56 <Vanhayes> harrydance, krabbelbaby
23:56 <Vanhayes> er
23:56 <Vanhayes> damn auto complete
23:56 <madmax|pt> lol
23:57 <Vanhayes> meant ha, krabbelbaby
23:58 <Vanhayes> still, pimp was the worst

Log from 2007-06-07:
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00:00 <Vanhayes> well pimp or hyphy
00:00 <Vanhayes> hmm pants had his moments too
00:01 <epsy> hmm
00:02 <epsy> do we have a windows build after the fix of the syncying bug ?
00:06  * epsy supposes this silence means « no »
00:07 <epsy> hmmm
00:07 <epsy> cya anyway
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00:52 <madmax|pt> it was nice when <randomnick> entered cvs test and said "ahahah" "I AM KRABBELBABY"
00:52 <madmax|pt> i think its my favorite
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> ahahahaha
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> I AM KRABBELBABY
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02:30 <Vanhayes> .dict amalgamated
02:30 <tronner> Vanhayes: wn and gcide responded: gcide: Amalgamate \A*mal"ga*mate\, Amalgamated \A*mal"ga*ma`ted\, a. Coalesced; united; combined. [1913 Webster]; wn: amalgamated adj 1: joined together into a whole; "United Industries"; "the amalgamated colleges constituted a university"; "a consolidated school" [syn: {amalgamate}, {coalesced}, {consolidated}, {fused}] 2: caused to combine or unite [syn: (2 more messages)
02:31 <Vanhayes> .more
02:31 <tronner> Vanhayes: {intermingled}, {mixed}, {integrated}]; gcide: Amalgamate \A*mal"ga*mate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Amalgamated}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Amalgamating}.] 1. To compound or mix, as quicksilver, with another metal; to unite, combine, or alloy with mercury. [1913 Webster] 2. To mix, so as to make a uniform compound; to unite or combine; as, to amalgamate two races; to amalgamate one race with another. [1913 (1 more message)
02:31 <Vanhayes> .more
02:31 <tronner> Vanhayes: Webster] Ingratitude is indeed their four cardinal virtues compacted and amalgamated into one. --Burke. [1913 Webster]
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03:43 <ghableska> !weather 50266
03:43 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 79.5°F (8:45 PM CDT on June 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 28.40 in 961.6 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 10 PM CDT this evening...
03:49 <Vanhayes> !weather saint john
03:49 <BotSub> Vanhayes: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 10:16 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of showers late this evening. Clearing overnight. Fog patches dissipating near midnight. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h near midnight. Low 8.; Thursday - Sunny with (1 more message)
03:49 <Vanhayes> !nhl
03:49 <BotSub> Vanhayes: Error: "nhl" is not a valid command.
03:50 <ghableska> !list
03:50 <BotSub> ghableska: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Geekquote, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Math, Misc, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Weather
03:50 <ghableska> !nickometer ghableska
03:50 <BotSub> ghableska: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ghableska" is 0.0%.
03:50 <ghableska> :D
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04:00 <Vanhayes> !nickometer Vanhayes
04:00 <BotSub> Vanhayes: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "Vanhayes" is 0.0%.
04:00 <Vanhayes> hey Your_mom_arma
04:00 <Your_mom_arma> hey
04:05 <Vanhayes> .night
04:05 <tronner> Wish I knew.
04:05 <Vanhayes> gonna finish watching this sorry excuse for a hockey game
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04:07 <luke-jr_> anyone know anything about POST codes?
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05:38 <mkzelda> how many beeps?
05:39 <mkzelda> and what bios?
05:39 <mkzelda> oh 1.5hrs ago
05:40 <luke-jr_> beeps??
05:40 <mkzelda> u have post card codes?
05:41 <mkzelda> #'s or beeps
05:41 <luke-jr_> hex #
05:41 <luke-jr_> FF
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05:42 <mkzelda> still depends on bios/board
05:43 <luke-jr_> can't tell you BIOS cuz that never comes up
05:43 <luke-jr_> Azza mobo
05:43 <luke-jr_> Azza PT-5VMD
05:46 <mkzelda> FF
05:46 <mkzelda> 	
05:46 <mkzelda> Boot
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05:46 <mkzelda> FFh  	Boot attempt (INT 19h)
05:46 <mkzelda> its award bios
05:46 <luke-jr_> ...
05:46 <tronner> luke-jr_, ...
05:47 <mkzelda> yea, thats what the docs say FF means
05:47 <mkzelda> take it up w/ them
05:47 <luke-jr_> lol
05:47 <luke-jr_> it's never anything before FF
05:47 <luke-jr_> I think the CPU is toast
05:47 <mkzelda> http://www.uxd.com/award2.html
05:48 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: what would you do with a socket 604 CPU?
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06:11 <Lucifer_arma> put it on a socket 604 motherboard, duh
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06:23 <GodTodd> socket 604 sucks
06:25 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: O.o
06:25 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: cheapest one of them is $250
06:26 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: o.O
06:27 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/pcmods/6b35/
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06:31 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: have you not yet figured out i don't click your links?
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> evidently he needs to install some spyware on your computer so he can find that out
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> Hey, luke's sister is up for a retrial, did you see?
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/06/1917255&from=rss
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07:06 <Durka> meh
07:06 <Durka> \o
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07:43 <Lucifer_arma> aha!  I found it!  I think
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 128.0/4.0
07:51 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 32
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08:04 <epsy> hi
08:06 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: what'd you find? a fix for mom?
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> just about
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> I put some delays in the chunk send code to break up a chunk and simulate mom's problem
08:06 <GodTodd> ah
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> I just learned something else, which is that my break up of the chunk was broken, which is kind of funny
08:07 <GodTodd> heh
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> fixed that, but I've got one more minor problem to figure out
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> but my simulation of mom's problem is pretty excessive.  :)  Takes nearly a whole second to send the whole chunk ;)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> only now the loop isn't breaking free for some reason
08:08 <GodTodd> better to fix a bigger problem in a sim than to not fix the actual problem because the sim was not good enough ;)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, now it's completely broken
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's totally breaking free, and the client is responding
08:14  * Lucifer_arma wonders what the client is responding with
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> ah, heh, I think I know what's broken now :)
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> yep, I broke the message parser
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I saw the raw chunk before it gets processed and the data is definitely there, it's just not being parsed
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, stupid stupid stupid
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08:28 <Lucifer_arma> don't reset the instance member until *after* you're finished using it!
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> er
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmmmmmmm
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08:30 <Lucifer_arma> fixed
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08:48 <Lucifer_arma> re GodTodd (hi there!)
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> fixed it :)
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> then I fixed all the stupid mistakes I made fixing it
08:49 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:49 <GodTodd> moms problem or my electricity? ;)
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> moms problem, your electricity is your problem
08:49 <GodTodd> heh
08:49 <GodTodd> i see how it is :P
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> it's not just moms problem, it's just that you and i don't see it because we're probably too close together
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> so our chunks don't get split up like his does
08:50 <GodTodd> ah that could be
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> now I should probably make sure unicode messages are being decoded into unicode strings properly
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> not that anything is sent as unicode yet, hmmm......
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> just one message gets decoded into unicode because it's parsed by minidom, and minidom always returns a unicode object
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> now I won't do any more coding tonight for fear of making a bunch of new stupid mistakes to fix tomorrow, heh
08:52 <GodTodd> heh
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> but I should be ready to send civilization information, which will probably cause me to make multi-chunk support a reality
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> after that, build the Choose a Civilization dialog, then I can *finally* start in on the actual game
08:53 <GodTodd> :)
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> which will probably start with a bunch more network stuff, since I need a generic syncobject message
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> I figure I'll just layout a bunch of grassland and start the city model, but I"ll have to figure out how to parse svg pretty quickly, because the city model can't be well-tested without a map with more than grassland
08:55 <GodTodd> true
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's getting high time to work out city resources.  Maybe tomorrow.  ;)
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> and units
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, need some units for this
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me of a todo I forgot to mention.  Someone needs to grab their favorite civ unit set and rip out the individual unit graphics and preferably convert them to svg
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> you know, really convert them, not just end up with a svg file that links to a png
09:08 <GodTodd> hmmm
09:32 <spidey> ?
09:32 <spidey> what are you working on?
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> civ game :)
09:32 <spidey> lol
09:32 <spidey> i'm getting my permit friday :D
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'm boycotting freeciv so that instead of playing freeciv, I'll write a game
09:33 <spidey> y boycot it?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> because otherwise I'd play freeciv and bitch about how I hate it instead of writing my own
09:33 <spidey> why do you hate it?
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> because it sucks :)
09:34 <spidey> i like it
09:34 <spidey> i just haven't had time to play it :/
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's 8-10 hours of the same repetitive bullshit, 1-2 hours of real fun, followed by 20-30 hours of mindless tedium
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's only fun when we're killing luke
09:34 <spidey> how will the game you right be any different?
09:35 <spidey> if all of us play, it'll be the same
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, for starters, this game is going to have lasers on the first day
09:35 <spidey> lol
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> God creates light, then he creates lasers
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> no, seriously, we're not going to try to clone freeciv
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> we're going to make a civ game that plays how we want to play it
09:36 <spidey> freeciv's a clone :p
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> yes it is, it's a clone of a single-player game
09:36 <spidey> only difference is
09:36 <spidey> the tilesets
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, the ais
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> civ was fun against the ais, but freeciv is kind of boring one-player
09:36 <spidey> and it doesn't have that little cheat option at the top :D
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> like, waaaay more boring than with other people
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> and freeciv has lots of stuff that is fun, but it's always like "man, I really wish they'd add this"
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> then you go talk to them about it, and they don't want to do it because they think it'll screw up the single-player game
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> or they say "don't worry, the next version will be much better", but it isn't!
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, it is, but the things you hate are still there!
09:38 <spidey> lol
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you go to add the feature yourself, and they say "we probably won't accept the patch because it migt screw up the single-player game"
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> (ok, that's an exaggeration)
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> but you find a bunch of C code that may or may not be well-written, but in any case it would take you as long to write one little improvement as you could write a whole clone in some other language
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> and it's not just C code, it's C code that won't compile in a C++ compiler!
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> so say goodbye to the idea of writing a Qt front-end where it would actually be possible to add your features without screwing up the local game
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> better to figure out their network protocol and just write the whole damn thing in python
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> but at that point, why do all that work just to add some features to freeciv to make it playable and less boring when you could do all that work and write a new game
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> so here I am, boycotting freeciv
09:41 <spidey> heh
09:41 <spidey> i need a laptop
09:41 <spidey> i'm not home much anymore, so i could just load it up with documents and read when i'm gone
09:42 <spidey> i be damned if i carry the desktop around everywhere xD
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> my brother does
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> of course, it's a mini-itx case ;)
09:42 <spidey> heh
09:42 <spidey> i have a 19' monitor
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> laptop batteries are so worthless these days that you have to expect to plug in wherever you go anyway
09:42 <spidey> and a big case :/
09:42 <spidey> that's not a problem
09:43 <spidey> i'm usually at my dads
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, my next laptop will either be a dell or a mac
09:43 <spidey> i don't care if it's a 100mhz
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> dell because they're shipping with linux preinstalled, mac because they're really nice computers and I can put linux on it
09:43 <spidey> aslong as i can put a .pdf veiwer and some .pdf's i'm good :D
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> buy you a little pda, then
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> lot cheaper than a laptop
09:43 <spidey> hrm
09:43 <spidey> maybe
09:44 <spidey> my mom has a laptop
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> I've got one I do a lot of reading on
09:44 <spidey> might trade her my server :D
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> get wireless
09:44 <spidey> laptop's 330mhz
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, you live out in the boonies
09:44 <spidey> server's 1.81ghz duron :D
09:44 <spidey> nah, not where i stay usually
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> wireless won't help if there's nobody around to give up an open router
09:44 <spidey> it's on the outskirts of town
09:46 <spidey> dude
09:46 <spidey> my other grandma has at&t cable connection
09:46 <spidey> 139kb/s upstream
09:46 <spidey> 40kb/s downstream
09:46 <spidey> yes, 40
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty sucky
09:46 <spidey> but the upstream
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> is pretty weird
09:46 <spidey> i'm tempted to take my server there
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> is she stealing it?
09:47 <spidey> no
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's a weird connection
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm off to bed
09:52 <spidey> cya
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10:23 <MrBougo> jello
10:23 <MrBougo> hiyo epsy
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10:34 <spacezone> ahum
10:45 <guru3> hyphelo is also an essel sombrero
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11:04 <epsy> MrBougo, c toi sur keyhunt ?
11:04 <eddiefantastic> hi
11:04 <epsy> hay eddiefantastic
11:04 <eddiefantastic> I've just tweaked my script, new server up
11:04 <epsy> heh
11:05 <eddiefantastic> Bugfarm Fortress Clone with alternate ending
11:05 <eddiefantastic> instead of dz, after 30 seconds no deaths, it will throw 5 bouncing dz's at the fortress zones
11:06 <eddiefantastic> if that's not enough, after another 30 seconds, it throws 5 more
11:08 <MrBougo> yep c'est moi
11:08 <MrBougo> je pige rien
11:08 <MrBougo> eps
11:08 <MrBougo> epsy: *
11:08 <epsy> MrBougo, lol
11:08 <eddiefantastic> argh, it's messed up
11:08 <MrBougo> t'es qui ti
11:08 <epsy> ton equipe doit collecter les 3 clés puis les porteurs doivent se rencontrer
11:15 <MrBougo> ah oké
11:15 <MrBougo> xD
11:15 <MrBougo> et toi t'es qui?
11:16 <epsy> euh celui avec le nm bizarre
11:23 <MrBougo> CPSC9machin
11:23 <MrBougo> excellent ce jeu xD
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11:35 <eddiefantastic> fixed now
11:45 <MrBougo> bye
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11:50 <duudii> yo
12:04 <epsy> lol
12:04 <epsy> my team just got 1000-30
12:05 <epsy> hay duudii
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13:22 <epsy> re
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14:07 <ghableska> !weather 50266
14:08 <ghableska> aw
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14:28 <madmax|pt> .weather lppt
14:28 <tronner> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 71.6°F (1:00 PM WEST on June 07, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
14:30 <ghableska> .weather 50266
14:30 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 75.4°F (7:29 AM CDT on June 07, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 28.32 in 958.9 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 8 PM CDT this evening...
14:30 <ghableska> :D
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14:36 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
14:36 <MrBougo> hiho ghab :)
14:59 <P4> .seen arctanx*
14:59 <tronner> P4: I haven't seen anyone matching arctanx*.
14:59 <P4> .seen arctanx
14:59 <tronner> P4: I have not seen arctanx.
15:00 <P4> .lastseen arctanx
15:00 <tronner> P4: arctanx has last been seen on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server 3 minutes ago.
15:11 <MrBougo> epsy i rock at nexuiz
15:11 <MrBougo> i'm a fucking sniper :D
15:11 <MrBougo> bye :p
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15:18 <epsy> .m MrBougo try some DM matches on runningman, you won't snipe anymore :p
15:18 <tronner> Bugger all, I dunno.
15:18 <epsy> .tell MrBougo try some DM matches on runningman, you won't snipe anymore :p
15:18 <tronner> epsy: Error: I haven't seen MrBougo, I'll let you do the telling.
15:19 <epsy> meh
15:19 <epsy> P4, ? :}
15:19 <epsy> !tell MrBougo try some DM matches on runningman, you won't snipe anymore :p
15:19 <deja_vu> .lastseen rugkei
15:19 <tronner> deja_vu: rugkei<@> seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
15:22 <madmax|pt> epsy: .later tell ?
15:23 <epsy> it's same...
15:23 <epsy> .later tell MrBougo try some DM matches on runningman, you won't snipe anymore :p
15:23 <tronner> epsy: The operation succeeded.
15:23 <epsy> uh ? xD
15:24 <P4> .plugin tell
15:24 <tronner> P4: The "tell" command is available in the Misc plugin.
15:24 <P4> .list later
15:24 <epsy> :o
15:24 <tronner> P4: notes and tell
15:24 <P4> :|
15:25 <P4> anyway use .later tell
15:25 <P4> or make some alias ;P
15:25 <P4> or...
15:25 <P4> .disable misc tell
15:25 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
15:25 <P4> .tell epsy blah
15:26 <epsy> ...
15:26 <epsy> not working
15:26 <tronner> epsy, ...
15:27 <epsy> .later tell epsy blah
15:27 <tronner> epsy: The operation succeeded.
15:27 <epsy> .
15:27 <epsy> hmm
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15:30 <P4> .defaultplugin tell later
15:30 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
15:31 <P4> .tell epsy blah
15:31 <tronner> P4: The operation succeeded.
15:31 <epsy> hay
15:32 <P4> epsy: works?
15:39 <epsy> no
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15:43 <P4> .lastseen rain
15:43 <tronner> P4: °¯rain seems to be on Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending right now.
15:43 <vinavil> http://java.freenode.net/
15:44 <vinavil> p4: there you find the code to add to your webpage
15:44 <vinavil> it works fine
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17:10 <MrBougo> helo
17:10 <MrBougo> epsy, i know there's ant camping stuf
17:11 <MrBougo> ant
17:11 <MrBougo> anti
17:12 <epsy> go on pb smothing with hook
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17:29 <Vanhayes> .tea
17:29 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:30 <Vanhayes> .serverinfo alter
17:30 <tronner> I don't know, Vanhayes.
17:32 <madmax|pt> alter?
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17:33 <Vanhayes> alternate ending
17:33 <Vanhayes> ed's new fortress experiment
17:37 <madmax|pt> ah
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17:51 <P4> .tea
17:51 <tronner> P4: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): IL, Kamakazi, Monkey, SP|Ady-Lucifer, Vanhayes, yrr, \|/ Smok3, °¯rain, °°@shitakA
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18:05 <ghableska> .tea
18:05 <tronner> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): G5, gnu, IL, Kamakazi, Monkey, Phantom, SP|Ady-Lucifer, Vanhayes, yrr, °¯AshitakA, °¯rain
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18:28 <mkzelda> new fortress with happy ending?
18:28 <mkzelda> sweet
18:29 <Vanhayes> its fun
18:36 <P4> it's called clone :}
18:36 <P4> .clone
18:36 <tronner> P4: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: No online players.
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19:04 <P4> anyone replaced original textures in armagetron 0.2.8.2.1? it's not working for me :|
19:05 <P4> i've replaced cycle_body.png and dir_wall.png only
19:05 <P4> but it doesnt work :|
19:09 <P4> omg, i replaced the textures in wrong folder (arma dedicated) btw. does armagetron dedicated installation needs all this models and pngs?
19:19 <guru3> I'm getting sucked into a flame war but I can't help myself.
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19:32 <MrBougo> helo
19:32 <MrBougo> tronner, time
19:32 <MrBougo> !time
19:32 <MrBougo> .time
19:32 <tronner> MrBougo: 07:35 PM, June 07, 2007
19:33 <MrBougo> ah
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20:32 <epsy> back
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20:53 <Vanhayes> .tea
20:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): diablo
20:54 <Lackadaisical> we are at ed's
20:56 <epsy> hmm
20:56 <Ady> .tea
20:56 <tronner> Ady: Fortress Café: No online players.
20:57 <epsy> cycle.ase is located in textures/ or models/ ?
20:57 <Ady> hi epsy
20:57 <epsy> hay Ady
20:57 <Ady> .servinfo end
20:57 <tronner> No idea, Ady.
20:57 <Ady> whats the command for the serv info
20:57 <epsy> .help tea
20:57 <tronner> epsy: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverdetails Fortress Café".
20:57 <Ady> .tea end
20:57 <tronner> Ady: Fortress Café: No online players.
20:57 <Ady> err
20:57 <epsy> .alias add serverinfo serverdetails $*
20:57 <tronner> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:57 <epsy> .serverinfo end
20:57 <tronner> epsy: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: Players (12/16): Dez, flip, Lackadaisical, Neo, Phantom, SP|AmsterDamn, van Nelle, Zop, }-HaWk~}}, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~*SP*~PsYkO, °°qain
20:58 <Ady> thanks
20:58 <epsy> np
20:58 <Ady> now rename it to svinfo :P
20:58 <epsy>  tsss
20:58 <Ady> lol
20:58 <Ady> up to play?
20:58 <epsy> do it yourself if you want to :p
20:58 <epsy> no
20:58 <epsy> err, well
20:58 <Ady> .aliaas add svinfo serverdetails $*
20:58 <epsy> maybe after i changed my bike model
20:58 <tronner> I don't know!
20:58 <Ady> lol
20:59 <epsy> there's not 3 « a » in « alias »  :p
20:59 <Ady> .alias add svinfo serverdetails $*
20:59 <tronner> Ady: The operation succeeded.
20:59 <Ady> .svinfo clone
20:59 <tronner> Ady: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: Players (10/16): Dez, Neo, Phantom, SP|AmsterDamn, van Nelle, Zop, }-HaWk~}}, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	La, ~*SP*~PsYkO, °¯rain
20:59 <Ady> yay
20:59 <Ady> <?php echo "I rock";?>
20:59 <epsy> .echo I rock.
20:59 <tronner> I rock.
21:00 <Ady> haha
21:00 <epsy> :P
21:00 <Ady> .echo i love ady
21:00 <tronner> i love ady
21:00 <Ady> LOL
21:00 <Ady> right, i go write something about tron summer festival on forums
21:00 <epsy> .echo I wanna go to bed with Ady :}
21:00 <tronner> I wanna go to bed with Ady :}
21:00 <epsy> xD
21:00 <Ady> .echo but not without epsy
21:00 <tronner> but not without epsy
21:00 <epsy> lol
21:00 <Ady> :P
21:01 <Ady> hm, right forum time, is there anyway i could be here from msn?
21:01 <Ady> or i have to get mirc
21:01 <epsy> hmm
21:01 <epsy> there's clients which does msn and irc
21:01 <Ady> mhhh
21:02 <epsy> Ady, and no, don't use mirc, it sux
21:02 <Ady> right, i saw that myself
21:02 <epsy> ctcp version me :P
21:02 <Ady> hmm ok, ill keep this web open 24/7 lol
21:02 <Ady> using freenode
21:02 <epsy> try xcaht
21:02 <epsy> *xchat
21:03 <Ady> .google test
21:03 <tronner> No idea, Ady.
21:03 <Ady> .find test
21:03 <tronner> Wish I knew, Ady.
21:03 <Ady> mm i liked the old armabot
21:03 <epsy> http://www.silverex.org/
21:03 <epsy> yeah
21:03 <Ady> thanks
21:03 <Ady> lol
21:03 <Ady> i think it was a she
21:03 <epsy> he'id go one week ago because of a netsplit
21:03 <epsy> *she
21:03 <Ady> ahm
21:04 <epsy> and of course wtrl was gone to vacation
21:04 <Ady> lol
21:04 <Ady> what age is he
21:04 <epsy> She is 37
21:04 <Ady> wrtl is a she??
21:04 <epsy> no
21:04 <Ady> lo
21:04 <Ady> l
21:04 <Ady> im asking about wrtl
21:05 <epsy> i don't know, then
21:05 <Ady> at my bday i want to make a massive bday tron tournament lol
21:05 <epsy> hehe
21:05 <Ady> imagine them writing happy bday with their trails haha
21:05 <epsy> i wish we could do that on each guy here's bday :P
21:06 <Ady> duh, no time to play then
21:06 <Ady> :P
21:06 <epsy> :P
21:07 <Ady> right, u'll have to help me get the xchat working
21:08 <Ady> which net to pick
21:08 <Ady> access irc?
21:10 <epsy> err
21:10 <epsy> Freenode ;)
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21:10 <Adry_> test
21:10 <epsy> click on it, then select edit
21:10 <Ady> right
21:11 <Ady> freenode, found it
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21:11 <epsy> Adry_, pong
21:11 <Adry_> ping
21:11 <Adry_> lol
21:11 <epsy> click on Xchat > network list
21:11 <Adry_> im from xchat now
21:11 <Adry_> ;)
21:11 <epsy> select freenode, then click on edit
21:11 <epsy> you set here « connect auto at start »
21:11 <Adry_> edit
21:12 <Adry_> right
21:12 <epsy> and you put #armagetron as default channels to join
21:12 <epsy> did you registred to nickserv ?
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21:13 <Ady> works perfectly
21:13 <epsy> did you registred to nickserv ?
21:13 <Ady> no
21:13 <epsy> well, do it then
21:13 <epsy> :)
21:13 <Ady> bah
21:13 <Ady> lol
21:13 <Ady> who would steal my nick
21:13 <epsy> tthis will prevent yourt nick being stolen
21:13 <epsy> anyone can
21:14 <epsy> btw, it's a 3 letter nick, which is RARE
21:14 <Ady> right
21:14 <Ady> lol
21:14 <Ady> its my name
21:14 <Ady> in short verion
21:14 <Ady> sion
21:14 <epsy> yeah i know
21:14 <epsy> (that's great if you have such a nick avaliable)
21:14 <Ady> #nicksrv
21:14 <Ady> .nicksrv
21:14 <tronner> I don't have a clue.
21:14 <Ady> fine
21:15 <epsy> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
21:17 <epsy> .lastseen rain
21:17 <tronner> epsy: °¯rain has last been seen on Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending 16 minutes ago.
21:17 -!- Ady is now known as Ady-Lucifer
21:17 <epsy> already registred ?
21:17 <epsy> meh
21:17 <Ady-Lucifer> yes
21:17 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:18 <Ady-Lucifer> right
21:19 <Ady-Lucifer> is there a way to auto autentificate at startup
21:19 <epsy> yes, in the same config dialog as before
21:19 <Ady-Lucifer> right
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21:20 <Ady-Lucifer> great, thanks a lot epsy
21:20 <Ady-Lucifer> now i can talk to you 24/7
21:21 <epsy> :P
21:21 <epsy> arrrrr!!
21:21 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
21:22 <epsy> why ?
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21:23 <Ady-Lucifer> error
21:23 <Ady-Lucifer> well now i know i cannot send files, would have been too  nice 2 be true
21:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .svinfo clone
21:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: Players (8/16): hEej, K-Yo, Lackadaisical, madmax, Monkey, van Nelle, Vanhayes, ~ ¤X ¤~
21:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
21:23 <epsy> well, o lol
21:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:24 <epsy> xchat crashed ?
21:24 <Ady-Lucifer> yup
21:24 <Ady-Lucifer> .svinfo elimina
21:24 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
21:24 <epsy> lol!
21:24 <Ady-Lucifer> mm :P
21:24 <Ady-Lucifer> .lastseen epsy
21:24 <Ady-Lucifer> err
21:24 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: timed out
21:25 <Ady-Lucifer> .weather santander spain
21:25 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Patches of Fog | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 9:23 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 ° (1 more message)
21:25 <Ady-Lucifer> im off to play a while
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21:26 <Ady-Lucifer> epsy, doesnt this minimize to tray?
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21:27 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, maybe
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21:40 <epsy> .ping
21:40 <epsy> damn
21:40 <tronner> pong
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21:41 <epsy> damn
21:41 <epsy> damn
21:41 <epsy> .ping
21:41 <tronner> pong
21:43 <Ady-Lucifer> .poing
21:43 <tronner> I have no idea, Ady-Lucifer.
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21:45 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v clone
21:45 <tronner> Vanhayes: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending (87.106.101.25:4536) running 0.2.8_alpha20070523 unix dedic, Description: “Classic Fortress Settings. No winzone, instead, flying deathzones.“, Players (9/16): chico, dookatee, G5, hEej, K-Yo, Lackadaisical, madmax, Monkey, Vanhayes
21:46 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v wild
21:46 <tronner> Vanhayes: Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (69.73.188.241:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20061212 unix dedic, Description: “Capture The Flag (By the one and only "pig")“, Players (10/10): -=}ID<Mr.Orange, -DHM-, Anumeric, Bobby, Brad, Eni1, Gamester, Green Bobin, TRON, {JCJ} /
21:47 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v crazy
21:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (78.47.242.235:4534) running 0.2.8_alpha20070524 unix dedic, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “There's like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (9/14): aok yoshy, B'alam, Beni, Boschti, ct~sol, niro, [Hitailz]~enjoi, ~T~Legionnaire, ¢T¦$afari$kater
21:47 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v cafe
21:47 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café (88.198.22.100:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20070425 unix dedic, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “Hetzner server, AMD64 3700+, 1Gbit/s uplink. Standard fortress settings, but with wall shrink. DEDICATED_FPS is increased to 100.“, Players (2/32): Iamsleepy, ¦Ö¦Legit
21:48 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v z-man
21:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry.
21:48 <Vanhayes> .svinfo -v zman
21:48 <tronner> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “zman” at the moment, sorry.
21:48 <Vanhayes> hmm
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21:53 <mkzelda> so
21:53 <mkzelda> was that alternate ending an answer to a problem?
21:54 <P4> .tea
21:54 <tronner> P4: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): -HsP- Dal, Blow, Ðúrkå	Vanhayes, G5, Iamsleepy, Player 1, ~~~J~~~, ¦Ö¦Legit
21:55 <Vanhayes> sort of I think
21:55 <P4> :}
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21:55 <epsy> i got kicked ?
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21:55 <mkzelda> im in your tub, stuck
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21:57 <Lucifer_arma> now, what was it I was going to do today?
21:57  * Lucifer_arma thinks
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, crimson fields wiki
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22:06 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
22:07 <_Sticky_> .tea
22:07 <tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): -HsP- Dal, a retard, Blow, Ðúrkå- Eating, G5, Monkey, Vanhayes, [Dömer]²³	hEej, ~ ¤X ¤~, ~~~J~~~, ¦Ö¦Legit, ©S¦µ4, °¯Menoly, °°RageLord
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> so my solution to the problem with the crimson fields wiki would basically require me to install a really old version of mediawiki :/
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> to fix that, they need ot upgrade to php5, which would fix the existing crimson fields wiki, haha
22:12 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
22:12 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -HsP- Dal, Blow, Ðúrkå- Eating, G5, hEej, Vanhayes, ~ ¤ X ¤ ~, ~*wHaTuP*~!, ~~~J~~~, ¦×¥ Legit, ¦×¥Sticky, °¯Menoly
22:16 <Monkeybutt> hi
22:28 <Ady-Lucifer> all join the party on cafe
22:28 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
22:28 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): CT|Square, Dez, G5, Gonzap, hEej, Slowcoaster, SP|Ady-Lucifer, TheBigDog, van Nelle, wT:r|Tµ¡kêr, ~*SP*~IT, ~*wHaTuP*~!, ~~~J~~~, ¦Ö¦Legit, ¦Ö¦Rticky, ¦×¥ FoFo
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22:59 <Monkeybutt> .tea
22:59 <tronner> Monkeybutt: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): -HsP- Dal, Dez, Ðûqkå, G5, hEej, Hitler, HoA¦Ö¦	Spaectrv, newbÎd, Radian, Slowcoaster, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	co, ~*wHaTuP*~!, ~~~J~~~, °°Olato
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> they raise an interesting question in #freeciv
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> is teamplay worth it?
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> when you've got diplomacy and alliances and stuff, do you really need teamplay?
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> seems like all you really want is to either let a team control one civilization, or just nearby spawn points
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc log(2,4096)
23:08 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 0.0833333333333
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc log(4096, 2)
23:09 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 12.0
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**12
23:09 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 4096
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**16
23:09 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 65536
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> ok, 64k will be max chunk data size
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23:10 <Vanhayes> hmm, team controling one civ would be interesting
23:13 <Monkeybutt> hi
23:16 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
23:16 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): carnage2211, cos, G5, hEej, HoA¦×¥, Lackadaisical, newbÎe, Radian, Slowcoaster, xX-Triple-X-Xx, ~ ¤ X ¤ ~, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	De, °°oixel, °°Olato
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23:26 <Lucifer_arma> heya GodTodd (hi there!)
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> this socket programming is addicting
23:26 <GodTodd> is it?
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  I'm working on making chunk sizes variable, so that 2k isn't required for a message that just says "hi there"
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> just finished unicode support, I hope :)
23:27 <GodTodd> cool :)
23:27 <GodTodd> quick...what's the wiki address?
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm getting a max size of 64k for a data segment
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> eugenics.davefancella.com
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://eugenics.davefancella.com  <--- if you need it clickable
23:28 <GodTodd> i was putting it in the #eugenics topic
23:29 <GodTodd> just in case we get stumbled upon :)
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> wouldn't want people thinking we had some evil racist planning going on in there anyway ;)
23:29 <GodTodd> heh
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> now remove the "set" part at the beginning ;)
23:30 <GodTodd> oops
23:30 <GodTodd> heh
23:30 <GodTodd> better? :)
23:31 <GodTodd> hopefully i'll hit a point fairly soon where i'll be more helpful than just testing
23:31 <GodTodd> heh
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully I'll be at a point fairly soon where other coders can help :)
23:32 <luke-jr_work> what is the one biggest flaw in freeciv?
23:32 <GodTodd> that part after you hit start and before everyone gives up? :)
23:33 <luke-jr_work> my vote: the part where how good your doing influences your potential positively
23:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
23:33 <luke-jr_work> eg, the currently winning person is also the most powerful
23:33 -!- Lucifer_arma changed the topic of #armagetron to: Latest Version: 0.2.8.2 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407 | Eugenics discussion has moved to #eugenics
23:34 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
23:34 <GodTodd> thing is..."winning" is subjective....if you want to kill everyone then biggest, best army is "winning"...if you are trying to colonize alpha centauri then most tech/biggest, fastest ship is "winning"
23:35 <luke-jr_work> winning is not subjective in Freeciv; see scores
23:36 <GodTodd> i don't agree with their scoring, tho :)
23:37 <epsy> cya
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23:37 <GodTodd> i think that if you land the ship and don't have the highest score you should still win since you did one of the two "ultimate" goals
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> hey, this is #armagetron ;)
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> mind having your bot joining #eugenics and logging?
23:42 <GodTodd> just a sec
23:43 <GodTodd> have to restart the server
23:43 <GodTodd> heh
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23:45 <P4> can anyone join this server for some fun? :}
23:45 <P4> .serv crazy sessions
23:46 <tronner> P4: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy sessions” at the moment, sorry.
23:46 <P4> .serv sessions
23:46 <tronner> P4: Crazy Tronners Training Sessions: Players (1/8): ©S¦µ4
23:46 <P4> :}
23:46 <Ady-Lucifer> whats that about?
23:46 <P4> its almpst classic fortress
23:46 <P4> wall shrink -100 , 20 rubber and rubber_time 0.1 ;}
23:46 <P4> or 10 rubber
23:46 <Ady-Lucifer> you host it?
23:47 <P4> eddiefanastic hosts it
23:47 <P4> i confgure it
23:47 <Ady-Lucifer> lets have a look
23:47 <Ady-Lucifer> name?
23:47 <P4> it's almost untouched settings
23:47 <P4> i just wanna few players ;}
23:47 <P4> .serv sessions
23:47 <tronner> P4: Crazy Tronners Training Sessions: Players (1/8): ©S¦µ4
23:47 <Ady-Lucifer> ok
23:49 <Lucifer_arma> sorry ady, I have to ignore you to get your name to quit pinging me with notifications
23:50 <Ady-Lucifer> why is it pinging with notifications? im using xchat
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23:51 <Ady-Lucifer> Lucifer_arma, what kind of notifications?
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00:00 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
00:00 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 5p 5@5h@, cos, Dr.Iglo, hoop, I/O Bus, Lackadaisical, Mochamew, Ossi, Radian, Sam, SlµQM, ~ ¤X ¤~, °¯Plato, °°ÚnÎvÊrsÂsÎkÊ	
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00:01 <P4> Ady-Lucifer :}
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00:01 <Ady-Lucifer> akira_, still here?
00:01 <Ady-Lucifer> P4,
00:01 <P4> hmm, i go tto copy it on my hdd
00:01 <P4> i mean to
00:01 <Nixda760> wtf!
00:01 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
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00:05 <Nixda760> p4, pm me please
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00:05 <P4> ...
00:06 <tronner> P4, ...
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00:06 <P4> Ady-Lucifer: Nunawading Terrorizing Sacrificing Cruzifiers (NTSC) :>
00:06 <P4> uploading :}
00:06 <Ady-Lucifer> hm ok :)
00:07 <Nixda764> p4, pm me
00:08 <P4> who?! :P
00:09 <P4> "who? you?!" (in polish huju (read whoyou) means "you dick!")
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> huju huju huju!
00:10 <P4> lol
00:11 <P4> actually it changed (like 10 years ago) to chuju (in polish ch and h is same but not in ortographic issue)... it's strange that spelling of word like that was changed
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> yay, got unicode support and variable data chunk sizes
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> now to see how well mkzelda's script works
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: do you happen to know what version of freeciv you tested this script on?
00:14 <Lucifer_arma> you know, so I can match it :)
00:17 <P4> Ady-Lucifer: just dont be scared: http://boomp3.com/m/ccd017b3a61a
00:17 <P4> :}
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 4294967295*65536-128
00:17 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 281474976644992
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 4294967295*65536-128/1024
00:17 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 2.81474976645e+014
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (4294967295*65536-128)/1024
00:18 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 274877906880.0
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (4294967295*65536-128)/1024/1024
00:18 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 268435455.937
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (4294967295*65536-128)/1024/1024/1024
00:18 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 262143.999939
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (4294967295*65536-128)/1024/1024/1024/1024
00:18 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 255.99999994
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> cool, now we can send 256 terabytes with my network layer
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00:19 <Ady-Lucifer> psychodelic dance with an asshole moaning?
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 65536-128
00:19 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 65408
00:19 <Ady-Lucifer> .math 1+1
00:19 <tronner> Wish I knew.
00:20 <Ady-Lucifer> .match calc 1+1
00:20 <tronner> Wish I knew, Ady-Lucifer.
00:23 <Ady-Lucifer> P4, do you really listen to that?
00:23 <P4> lol
00:23 <P4> only sometimes :P
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00:23 <P4> i like more dynamic music :}
00:23  * P4 is a peer
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00:23 <Ady-Lucifer> damn, crashed
00:23 <P4> seen ;}
00:24 <Ady-Lucifer> mmh i dont know what to say about that :P
00:24 <Ady-Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=182171#182171
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00:25 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv elim
00:25 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
00:25 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
00:25 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): Dr.Iglo, hoop, ikono, Ossi, Pez, Poor Noob, Shazam, van Nelle, {bansky}rambo, °¯Plato, °°ÚnÎvÊrsÂsÎkÊ	
00:31 <Lackadaisical> is there any possibility hyphy could be banned from the forums?
00:31 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
00:31 <Ady-Lucifer> that pic he posted showing his gpu power should be classified as spam
00:32 <Lackadaisical> he actually thinks he got kicked because we are jealous of his uber1337 gfxcard
00:33 <Ady-Lucifer> we just need a moderator who determines if a post has to stay there or not
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> haha
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> j00 all R jus' jealous!
00:34 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> oddly enough, that reminds me to check on afl signups
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00:51 <Lucifer_arma> <title government="D es po ti sm" gender="male">Ca pta in Ge ne ra l</title>
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00:58 <DrJoeTron> hey Lucifer_arma
00:58 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ethe%2Dengine%2Enet%2Fforum%2Fmessages%2Ephp%3Fwebtag%3DENGINE%26msg%3D9133%2E1
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> er
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> quick summary?
01:00 <DrJoeTron> its a less than 2 minute song
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I'm at work right now....
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> link me with it later :)
01:00 <DrJoeTron> from the guy who was "Biff" on back to the future
01:00 <DrJoeTron> ok
01:00 <DrJoeTron> wait you work?
01:00 <vinavil> ohhh, back to the future!
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, luci's got  job
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> +a
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> joe, go draw a family-friendly mspaint cartoon of hyphy's penis
01:02 <DrJoeTron> i think hyphy is purposely being stupid
01:02 <DrJoeTron> so it doesnt work that way :/
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, you could have said "I think hyphy is purposely being as smart as he can" and meant the same thing
01:03 <vinavil> lol, why should we mind about his graphic card?
01:06 <DrJoeTron> see
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01:06 <DrJoeTron> why do you guys even bother to respond to his posts
01:07 <vinavil> to make him answer worse and worse so we have reason for a right punishment
01:07 <DrJoeTron> who's "we"
01:08 <DrJoeTron> "we" should just ignore him
01:08 <DrJoeTron> I'm getting more laughs at the reactions you guys give him
01:09 <vinavil> indeed both are funny
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01:37 <Lucifer_arma> man, I just love trolling the trolls
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> is there anything wrong with that?
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> oh, joe left
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: ping
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: nvm, ran it on freeciv 2.0.9 and it ran smoothly
01:42 <_Sticky_> .tea
01:42 <tronner`> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): $~K3~$, akira, C.M Clay Jr, Cholo, JJBean, Rogue, shame on pez, Shazam, Thokul, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~*SP*~Pez, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~~~J~~~, ¤ X ¤, °¯Plato
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01:53 <P4> damn so much spam due to registering nickname :|
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  If we hated that spam, most of us can turn off those notifications
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02:14 <ghableska> .weather 50266
02:14 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.9°F (7:16 PM CDT on June 07, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.47 in 964.0 hPa (Falling).
02:16 <Vanhayes> .weather saint john
02:16 <tronner> Vanhayes: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low 6.; Friday - Sunny. High 16 except 20 inland. UV index 7 or high. Friday night..clear. Low 6.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 24.;
02:17 <Vanhayes> .more
02:17 <tronner> Vanhayes: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
02:18 <ghableska> .list
02:18 <tronner> ghableska: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, Network, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Slap, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:18 <ghableska> .dunno
02:18 <tronner> Dunno.
02:18 <ghableska> Vanhayes: markov!
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> .weather 78717
02:19 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek Marlins, Austin, Texas is 85.5°F (7:20 PM CDT on June 07, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 71.6°F. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003.3 hPa (Rising).
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> we're having a mild summer
02:19 <Vanhayes> .math calc 85.5 F in C
02:19 <tronner> Vanhayes: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
02:20 <P4> at
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's not google math
02:20 <P4> .math calc 85.5 F at C
02:20 <tronner> P4: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's not google math
02:20 <P4> .math calc 85.5 F t C
02:20 <tronner> P4: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> it's python math
02:20 <P4> .math calc 85.5 F to C
02:20 <tronner> P4: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
02:20 <P4> szhi
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> so you have to put in stuff that's python code, basically
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 2**4
02:20 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 16
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> probably the reason I seem to be the only one who can get meaningful results out of it :)
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc 32-(9/5)*85.5
02:21 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: -121.9
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> haha, oops
02:21 <P4> One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (9/5)*85.5-32
02:21 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 121.9
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (5/9)*85.5-32
02:21 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 15.5
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
02:22  * Lucifer_arma doesn't remember the formula
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> um, 10**24 is python for "10 raised to the power of 24"
02:22 <ghableska> .markov
02:22 <tronner> well, I haven't spec'd the xml
02:22 <Vanhayes> I think its in the high 20s
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> which robably still isn't exact
02:22 <ghableska> .markov
02:22 <tronner> pants is all the info in it?(I've been goofing around trying to avoid *right now* is the dependency ok if it is, sadly, worth keeping :(
02:22 <ghableska> it works!
02:22 <Vanhayes> .list markov
02:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: firsts, follows, lasts, markov, pairs, and stats
02:22 <Vanhayes> .markov firsts
02:22 <tronner> Vanhayes: There are 1375 firsts in my Markov database for #armagetron.
02:23 <Vanhayes> .markov follows
02:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: There are 20302 follows in my Markov database for #armagetron.
02:23 <P4> .st
02:23 <tronner> P4: P4 has sent 440 messages; a total of 10659 characters, 1919 words, 56 smileys, and 29 frowns; 4 of those messages were ACTIONs.  P4 has joined 2 times, parted 1 time, quit 4 times, kicked someone 0 times, been kicked 0 times, changed the topic 0 times, and changed the mode 0 times.
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc ((5/9)*85.5)-32
02:23 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 15.5
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> er
02:23 <Vanhayes> .st
02:23 <tronner> Vanhayes: Error: I can't find that user in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
02:23 <P4> register yourself van (provately)
02:23 <P4> priv*
02:24 <Vanhayes> meh, im tired, night
02:24 <P4> night
02:24 <Vanhayes> .night
02:24 <tronner> I don't have a clue!
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc ((9/5)*85.5)-32
02:24 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 121.9
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> eek, order of operations
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> .math calc (5/9)*(85.5-32)
02:24 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 29.7222222222
02:24 <Vanhayes> .alias add night Goodnight who$
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> there we go
02:24 <tronner> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.
02:24 <Vanhayes> .night
02:24 <tronner> Dunno!
02:24 <ghableska> lol
02:24 <Vanhayes> hmm
02:24 <ghableska> .dunno
02:24 <tronner> No idea.
02:25 <Vanhayes> .list alias
02:25 <tronner> Vanhayes: ?, add, armaconfig, armalize, c, cats, cfg, clone, ct, ctf, ctwf, czesc, dogs, house, ladle, lastseen, lock, mayhem, night, olej, opme, players, rain, remove, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, speed, st, sty, svinfo, t, tea, tyskie, unlock, whereised, and whoisp4
02:25 <ghableska> .opme
02:25 <tronner> ghableska: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
02:25 <Vanhayes> .whereised
02:25 <tronner> Vanhayes: -|ct|-ed- has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem 0 days 3 hours 31 minutes ago.
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> .alias add FinC "math calc (5/9)*($1-32)"
02:25 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> .FinC 85.5
02:25 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 29.7222222222
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> .FinC 102
02:25 <tronner> Lucifer_arma: 38.8888888889
02:25 <Vanhayes> .FinC 100
02:25 <tronner> Vanhayes: 37.7777777778
02:25 <Vanhayes> .FinC 130
02:25 <tronner> Vanhayes: 54.4444444444
02:26 <Vanhayes> that would be deadly
02:26 <Vanhayes> anyways, night
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02:26 <ghableska> cya
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
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02:27 <ghableska> hi mom
02:27 <Your_mom_arma> hey ghab
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02:55 <spidey> :o
02:57 <astronouth7303> are there known bugs dealing with intel graphics and compiz?
03:03 <luke-jr_> doubt it
03:03 <luke-jr_> Intel gfx are generally the best
03:03 <astronouth7303> it's crashing for me
03:04 <luke-jr_> though Arma does have known bugs with 3D compositing, IIRC
03:04 <astronouth7303> with an assertion failing in intel_regions.c
03:04 <luke-jr_> oh?
03:04 <luke-jr_> like?
03:04 <astronouth7303> complete with coredump
03:04 <astronouth7303> armagetron.real: intel_regions.c:231: intel_region_data: Assertion `dst_offset + dstx + width + (dsty + height - 1) * dst->pitch * dst->cpp <= dst->pitch * dst->cpp * dst->height' failed.
03:04 <luke-jr_> sounds like a buggy driver
03:04 <luke-jr_> upgrade
03:05 <astronouth7303> latest intel and arma
03:05 <luke-jr_> define latest
03:05 <astronouth7303> at least, latest intel for feisty
03:05 <ghableska> spidey:
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03:06 <spidey> ...
03:06 <astronouth7303> which is xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:1.9.94-1ubuntu3
03:06 <tronner> No idea, spidey.
03:06 <spidey> ?
03:06 <spidey> how many bots are on here
03:06 <luke-jr_> 5943
03:07 <spidey> heh
03:08 <astronouth7303> no wonder it took so long for the channel to load
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> bosnia ruleset is broke, heh
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> we're only down to one bot now, right?
03:10 <luke-jr_> astronouth7303: try 2.0
03:10 <astronouth7303> 2.0 what?
03:10 <luke-jr_> intel driver
03:10 <astronouth7303> from where?
03:10 <luke-jr_> shrug
03:13 <luke-jr_> gutsy (x11): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
03:13 <luke-jr_> 2:2.0.0-1ubuntu2: amd64 i386 powerpc
03:13 <luke-jr_> P
03:14 <luke-jr_> so Ubuntu Gutsy has it
03:14 <astronouth7303> great
03:14 <astronouth7303> so grab the pre-beta next release drivers?
03:14 <luke-jr_> if they work ...
03:18 <astronouth7303> you know, after trying miserably to get an unreleased kernel module from upstream, I think I'll skip it
03:19 <luke-jr_> hah
03:19 <luke-jr_> astronouth7303: does it work w/o AIGLX?
03:20 <astronouth7303> I just got compiz working again
03:20 <astronouth7303> and workspaces are lame w/o it
03:21 <luke-jr_> compiz is lame
03:21 <astronouth7303> beryl guy?
03:21 <luke-jr_> no, they both suck
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03:29 <_Sticky_> 3d desktops are great fun untill you actualy want to do anything.  then its realy distracting
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03:34 <luke-jr_> yeah
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: only one file had invalid xml, amazingly enough
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> bosnia
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't bother to find out what was wrong with it, just wrapped the exception and moved on
04:26 <mkzelda> ive been waiting for some feedback
04:26 <mkzelda> :D
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04:27 <ghableska> .weather 50266
04:27 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 77.9°F (9:25 PM CDT on June 07, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.52 in 965.7 hPa (Falling).
04:27 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: whats wrong w/ bosnia, looks fine for me
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> the ampersand
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> I noticed it in passing and changed it to &amp; and it's fine now
04:27 <mkzelda> ah, thats how it is in the existing ruleset
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> existing ruleset isn't xml, so xmlentities aren't a concern for it
04:28 <mkzelda> right
04:28 <mkzelda> i meant to ask about that actually
04:28 <mkzelda> oh thats one field i forgot to put spaces back into
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> haha
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's no biggee, I've already put the output xml files into svn
04:28 <mkzelda> at first i wasnt going to use spaces
04:28 <mkzelda> k
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you now want to write a script to parse the xml files and "fix" them, you're more than welcome to :)
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> but I already wrote a parser for what's there, so no changing xml schema yet!
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> I also put your script in svn, so if you do want to hack on it, you can make diffs pretty easily
04:29 <mkzelda> i didnt see any other name fields that were more than 1 word
04:30 <mkzelda> any other nations w/ a name field w/ more than 1 word, i should say
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> we'll probably change it, or remove it
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> one thiing I don't like about freeciv is all these modern countries being put in
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I realize an international audience wants to play their own nation, but I'd really kinda like to just keep it simple and focus on historical civilizations
04:31 <mkzelda> yea, plus you're american :D
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, eugenics talk is moving to #eugenics :)
04:31 <mkzelda> hehe
04:31 <mkzelda> k
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'd remove the US from the list if it weren't a historical civ
04:32 <mkzelda> its our duty to believe we're the greatest country evar!
04:32 <mkzelda> and impose such a belief on all others
04:32 <mkzelda> thats the american dream
04:32 <mkzelda> man i needed another channel to join
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04:41 <ghableska> .night
04:41 <tronner> Bugger all, I dunno!
04:41 <ghableska> .night
04:41 <tronner> I have no idea.
04:41 <ghableska> .night
04:41 <tronner> I don't have a clue!
04:41 <ghableska> ...
04:41 <tronner> I don't have a clue, ghableska.
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11:02 <guru3> hyphy's a dick.
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11:59 <Ady-Lucifer> Lucifer_arma, i have to say "thank you", you made me laugh very loud when i woke up this morning and read the hyphy thread :)
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12:53 <MrBougo> hi there
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12:57 <MrBougo> yay!
12:57 <MrBougo> smash bros brawl will be controllable with the NGC controller
12:57 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
12:57 <MrBougo> :D
12:57 <Ady-Lucifer> yay! my arma is broken!
12:58 <MrBougo> aw
12:58 <MrBougo> how can this be?
12:58 <MrBougo> oh hi btw
12:58 <Ady-Lucifer> just doesnt recognize my GPU anymore
12:59 <MrBougo> huh
12:59 <MrBougo> reinstall maybe
12:59 <MrBougo> did you do something wrong?
12:59 <Ady-Lucifer> All the big games do, and arma doesnt? lol
12:59 <Ady-Lucifer> I've reinstalled both drivers and arma 100 times
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12:59 <Ady-Lucifer> it will let me play with microsoft's gdi though
12:59 <MrBougo> aww
12:59 <MrBougo> cant help...
12:59 <Ady-Lucifer> i see 20 squAres ahead with that,. lol
13:02 <MrBougo> heh, Mozilla has received the World Information Society Award fron the UN
13:02 <Ady-Lucifer> nice
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13:43 <DrJoeTron> there is a VNC client for the DS?
13:43 <DrJoeTron> haha i can fuck with my servers with a ds
13:50 <luke-jr_> ...
13:50 <tronner> Wish I knew, luke-jr_.
13:50 <luke-jr_> servers don't have a GUI to VNC to, foo
13:50 <DrJoeTron> gee mine does
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13:50 <DrJoeTron> THEN ITS NOT REALLY A SERVER MASTERSTROKE AGGHHHH
13:50 <Bougo> ?
13:50 <DrJoeTron> :)
13:51 <Bougo> hello :p
13:51 <Bougo> wtf, DS attack?
13:51 <DrJoeTron> ahaha
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13:52 <MrBougo> nintendo hax
13:53 <MrBougo> just imagine
13:53 <MrBougo> a ds DDOS
13:53 <MrBougo> all these guys with their stylus
13:53 <DrJoeTron> MrBougo http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/DSVNC
13:53 <MrBougo> "go!"
13:54 <MrBougo> haha what the hell
13:58 <DrJoeTron> yeah for serious
13:58 <DrJoeTron> I'm waiting for my R4 cartridge to come in
14:02 <DrJoeTron> http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/IRCDS it supports blowfish?
14:03 <DrJoeTron> kind of defeats the purpose here, especially when ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS ARE PICKED UP BY GOOGLE
14:03 <DrJoeTron> thanks :)
14:03 <MrBougo> :((
14:03 <MrBougo> hello google guys
14:03 <MrBougo> sup?
14:03 <MrBougo> can you search smth for me plz? plz!!!!111
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14:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
14:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv cafe
14:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
14:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv clone
14:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Armagoshdarn Clone: No online players.
14:23 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv altern
14:23 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: No online players.
14:24 <DrJoeTron> i want armabot back
14:24 <DrJoeTron> where did he go
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14:56 <tronner> - . ... -
14:58 <tronner> .--. ....-   ---... ---...   - . ... -   .- --. .- .. -.
14:58 <P4> .unmorse .--. ....-   ---... ---...   - . ... -   .- --. .- .. -.
14:58 <tronner> P4: P4::TESTAGAIN
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15:23 <madmax|pt> that unmorse is nice
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15:38 <luke-jr_> .unmorse ... --- ...
15:38 <tronner> luke-jr_: SOS
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15:45 <digitx> .list
15:45 <tronner> digitx: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, Network, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Slap, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
15:45 <digitx> lol.
15:45 <digitx> .list math
15:45 <tronner> digitx: base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units
15:45 <digitx> .unmorse
15:45 <tronner> digitx: (unmorse <Morse code text>) -- Does the reverse of the morse command.
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15:45 <digitx> oha
15:46 <digitx> .unmorse -.. .. --. .. - -..-
15:46 <digitx> nah
15:46 <tronner> digitx: DIGITX
15:47 <digitx> hehe
15:47 <digitx> .unmorse -. --- --- -...
15:47 <tronner> digitx: NOOB
15:47 <digitx> XD
15:47 <digitx> .unmorse .-.. ..- -.- .   ..-   .- .-. .   -. --- --- -...   -..- -..   .-.. --- .-..
15:47 <tronner> digitx: LUKEUARENOOBXDLOL
15:47 <digitx> XD
15:48 <luke-jr_> hungaru
15:48 <luke-jr_> hungary
15:48 <digitx> is shit
15:48 <luke-jr_> digitx too
15:48 <luke-jr_> :D
15:48 <digitx> no
15:54 -!- Lucifer_bed [n=satan@adsl-68-93-135-129.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
15:59 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["Távozom"]
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16:17 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@m198214186130.austincc.edu] has joined #armagetron
16:18 <philippeqc> hi all
16:19 <Lucifer_arma> hi philippeqc (hi there!)
16:19 <philippeqc> Tips. compile yourself a client from the latest trunk.... i'm readying a server
16:20 <Lucifer_arma> will it bring me fame, fortune, and peace on earth?
16:20 <philippeqc> I has the potential to
16:20 <Lucifer_arma> then I'm on it
16:20 <philippeqc> (at a very small degree)
16:20 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't guarantee I'll be able to do anything with it, since I'm at school right now, heh
16:21 <philippeqc> o ok
16:21 <philippeqc> well, the map isnt ready either
16:21 <philippeqc> ;)
16:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
16:21 <philippeqc> I'm attempting to create a hype and expectation
16:21 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, don't do that when I'm so sleepy
16:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bbiab, gonna go grab a cigarrette and try to wake up so I can spell cigarrette right
16:22 <philippeqc> lol ok do taht
16:22 <philippeqc> that
16:25 <philippeqc> o, side question to lucifer. In xml, is there a mecanism to refer to other to a pre-defined element somewhere else. I have zones made of 4 independant quarter of a circle. I'd like to have a quarter defined once, and just to refer to the set of points rather than cut and pasting 50 coordinates for each quarter
16:41 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@adsl-76-194-177-181.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
16:41 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@43.236-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
16:42  * MrBougo does the Zelda-new-item gesture
16:42 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
16:42 <MrBougo> *You found a Corsair Flash Voyager GT 4 Gigs*
16:42 <MrBougo> nice b-day gift :D
16:42  * MrBougo inserts
16:42 <MrBougo> hi there
16:43 <MrBougo> yummy blue led
16:43 <epsy> hi
16:43 <philippeqc> happy b-day
16:43 <MrBougo> ty :)
16:43 <MrBougo> it was on 27th may :p
16:43 <MrBougo> my gift was a bit late
16:44  * philippeqc was expecting to see a "MrBougo has quit, carrier lost" when you put the key in your compu.
16:44 <MrBougo> xD
16:44 <MrBougo> nah, it's corsair, it's no crap
16:44 <MrBougo> ...
16:44 <tronner> Dunno.
16:44 <MrBougo> afaik
16:44 <philippeqc> corsair is another word for pirate
16:44 <epsy> i will be away from 10th of june to the 24th
16:44 <philippeqc> actually corsaire in french, but who is jumping on such details.
16:44 <MrBougo> i know phi :m
16:44 -!- Monkey_ [n=None@189.17.201.fdial.global.net.uk] has joined #armagetron
16:44 <MrBougo> :p*
16:45 <MrBougo> awww epsy :(
16:45 <epsy> hay Monkey_
16:45 <Monkey_> hi epsy
16:45 <Monkey_> :)
16:45 <epsy> :)
16:45 <MrBougo> i'll be away from the 29th of june to some random date between 20 and 30th of july
16:45 <Monkey_> i am trying to get more players added to the teams
16:45 <MrBougo> now lets benchmark
16:46 <Monkey_> i have just read that there is a possible extension till 20 june
16:46 <MrBougo> 01-Armin_van_Buuren_-_A_State_of_Trance_300-2_(DI.fm)-NET-17-05-2007-PS.mp3
16:46 <MrBougo> 621.539.328 bytes
16:46 <epsy> .m vinavil where should cycle.asm reside ?? in modesl/ or in textures/ ?
16:46 <tronner> I have no idea.
16:46 <Monkey_> rain?
16:47 <epsy> .alias add m later tell $*
16:47 <tronner> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:47 <epsy> .m vinavil where should cycle.asm reside ?? in modesl/ or in textures/ ?
16:47 <tronner> epsy: The operation succeeded.
16:47 <MrBougo> holy crap
16:47 <MrBougo> 39 seconds
16:47 <MrBougo> that's like...
16:47 <philippeqc> ...fast
16:47 <tronner> Bugger all, I dunno!
16:48 <epsy> that's like 40 seconds
16:48 <philippeqc> ... less than a minut
16:48 <tronner> Dunno!
16:48 <MrBougo> .calc 621539.328/39
16:48 <tronner> MrBougo: 15936.9058462
16:48 <epsy> MrBougo, what are you benchmarking ?
16:48 <MrBougo> 15937 kBps :D
16:48 <epsy> oh xD
16:48 <MrBougo> .calc 15936.9058462*8
16:48 <tronner> MrBougo: 127495.24677
16:48 <MrBougo> err nevermind
16:48 <philippeqc> .calc 15937 / 1024
16:48 <tronner> philippeqc: 15.5634765625
16:48 <MrBougo> .calc 15936.9058462/8
16:48 <tronner> MrBougo: 1992.11323077
16:49 <MrBougo> philippeqc: i mean kibibits, not kilobits
16:49 <philippeqc>  why / 8
16:49 <MrBougo> err bytes
16:49 <MrBougo> to get the kilobits
16:49 <MrBougo> and i meant kilobits, not kibibits
16:49 <epsy> xD
16:49 <MrBougo> 1024 bytes is one mebibyte
16:49 <MrBougo> and 1.024 megabyte
16:49  * philippeqc is confused, but doesn't care that much
16:49 <epsy> *meagabyte
16:49 <MrBougo> bi stands for binary of course
16:50 <MrBougo> meagabyte?
16:50 <MrBougo> stfu epsy :D
16:50 <epsy> xD
16:50 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
16:50 <MrBougo> 1Byte = 8 bits
16:51 <MrBougo> .list google
16:51 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: 'google' is not a valid plugin.
16:51 <MrBougo> aw
16:51 <MrBougo> !list google
16:51 <MrBougo> err no botsub
16:51 <MrBougo> .list
16:51 <tronner> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, Network, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Slap, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
16:51 <MrBougo> .list web
16:51 <tronner> MrBougo: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
16:51 <MrBougo> bah
16:51 <epsy> P4|away, add the google plugin please :P
16:51 <MrBougo> .calc 621539328/1024
16:51 <tronner> MrBougo: 606972
16:52 <Monkey_> .tea
16:52 <tronner> Monkey_: Fortress Café: No online players.
16:52 <MrBougo> 606972 kibibytes
16:52 <MrBougo> .calc 621539328*8/1024
16:52 <tronner> MrBougo: 4855776
16:52 <MrBougo> 4855776 kibibits
16:53 <MrBougo> anyway i'm amazed :D
16:53 <epsy> lol
16:53 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
16:54 <MrBougo> hi there ghableska
16:54 <philippeqc> .calc 100*cos(60)
16:54 <tronner> philippeqc: -95.2412980415
16:54 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
16:55 <philippeqc> .calc 100*sin(60)
16:55 <tronner> philippeqc: -30.4810621102
16:55 <ghableska> .weather 50266
16:55 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 63.7°F (9:54 AM CDT on June 08, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Steady).
16:55 <MrBougo> philippeqc: its in radians
16:55 <MrBougo> dont trust it
16:55 <MrBougo> :p
16:55 <philippeqc> yeah, realised it
16:55 <ghableska> radians > degrees
16:55 <philippeqc> sin(pi/3)
16:55 <MrBougo> .calc 100*cos(Pi/3)
16:55 <tronner> MrBougo: 50
16:55 <MrBougo> .calc 100*sin(Pi/3)
16:55 <tronner> MrBougo: 86.6025403784
16:55 <philippeqc> .clac sin(pi/3)
16:55 <MrBougo> there you go
16:55 <tronner> Bugger all, I dunno.
16:55 <MrBougo> .clac
16:55 <tronner> Bugger all, I dunno, MrBougo.
16:55 <philippeqc> ty
16:55 <MrBougo> x
16:55 <MrBougo> xD
16:55 <Monkey_> phillippe, i just wrote a message to lucifer in #afl ...will he get it at some point?
16:55 <MrBougo> claculator
16:56 <ghableska> .list
16:56 <tronner> ghableska: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, Network, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Slap, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
16:56 <philippeqc> MrBougo: I think so
16:56 <ghableska> .rhyme
16:56 <tronner> Dunno, ghableska.
16:56 <philippeqc> he is just afk, gone for a smoke
16:56 <ghableska> .rhyme dog
16:56 <tronner> I have no idea!
16:56 <ghableska> hmm
16:57 <MrBougo> .list rhyme
16:57 <tronner> MrBougo: rhymes
16:57 <MrBougo> maybe
16:57 <MrBougo> .rhymes sska
16:57 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:57 <MrBougo> .rhymes ska
16:57 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:57 <MrBougo> .rhymes bougo
16:57 <ghableska> .rhymes dog
16:57 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:57 <tronner> ghableska: 7 rhymes for dog: acog, bog, cog, fog, haug, log, and zaugg
16:57 <ghableska> ha
16:57 <MrBougo> bog
16:57 <MrBougo> bogdog
16:57 <ghableska> zaugg?
16:57 <MrBougo> dunno
16:57 <ghableska> .dict zaugg
16:57 <tronner> ghableska: No definition for "zaugg" could be found.
16:57 <MrBougo> .rhymes neutron
16:57 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:58 <MrBougo> .rhymes synchrotrontron
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:58 <ghableska> MrBougo: crazylate? ;)
16:58 <MrBougo> .rhymes natron
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: No rhymes found.
16:58 <MrBougo> bah, you suck
16:58 <MrBougo> cant find any rhymes with tron
16:58 <MrBougo> ghab, lemme add it :p
16:58 <MrBougo> .list
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, CyborgName, Dict, Dunno, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Later, Markov, Math, Misc, Network, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Relay, Reply, Rhyme, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Slap, Sourceforge, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
16:58 <MrBougo> okay
16:58 <MrBougo> .list babelfish
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: babelize, language list, language random, and translate
16:59 <MrBougo> .babelize
16:59 <tronner> MrBougo: (babelize <from-language> <to-language> <text>) -- Translates <text> repeatedly between <from-language> and <to-language> until it doesn't change anymore or 12 times, whichever is fewer. One of the languages must be English.
16:59 <MrBougo> .translate
16:59 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: The command "translate" is available in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "translate".
16:59 <MrBougo> .babelfish translate
16:59 <tronner> MrBougo: (babelfish translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
17:00 <MrBougo> .alias add crazylate "[babelize es en [babelfish translate en es $*]]"
17:00 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: Commands may not be the result of nesting.
17:00 <MrBougo> should work
17:00 <MrBougo> awwwwwwwwww
17:00 <MrBougo> .alias add crazylate "echo [babelize es en [babelfish translate en es $*]]"
17:00 <tronner> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:00 <MrBougo> fixed
17:00 <MrBougo> .insight
17:00 <tronner> Wish I knew.
17:00 <MrBougo> bah
17:01 <MrBougo> .crazylate Hi there, this is some random stuff... Hope it will work!
17:01 <tronner> Hi there, this one is a small question at random... Hope that it works!
17:01 <MrBougo> it does :D
17:01 <ghableska> .crazylate [insult MrBougo]
17:02 <MrBougo> .crazylate Ten matches found: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, twenty
17:02 <ghableska> err
17:02 <tronner> MrBougo - you plows not nothing but gob Spam-that you inhale of seriously of retch.
17:02 <tronner> Found phosphorus ten: one, two, three, four, five, seises, seven, eight, nine, twenty
17:02 <MrBougo> indeed
17:02 <ghableska> "you inhale of seriously of retch" haha
17:02 <MrBougo> i inhale of seriously of retch
17:02 <MrBougo> did you know that?
17:02 <MrBougo> i didnt...
17:02 <ghableska> now I do :)
17:02 <MrBougo> so di I
17:03 <MrBougo> .crazylate [insult ghableska] and [insult ghableska]
17:03 <ghableska> o_O
17:03 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
17:03 <MrBougo> you suck
17:03 <epsy> xD
17:03 <epsy> .crazylate you suck
17:03 <MrBougo> .crazylate tronner sucks really bad
17:03 <MrBougo> aw
17:03 <tronner> you aspire
17:03 <epsy> xD
17:03 <tronner> tronner aspires really bad
17:03 <MrBougo> i had the idea first
17:04 <MrBougo> i aspire
17:04 <epsy> no
17:04 <MrBougo> .crazylate [insult ghableska]
17:04 <tronner> Couldn't talk to server: [Errno socket error] timed out
17:04 <MrBougo> beh
17:04 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6733203.stm
17:04 <epsy> .help insult
17:04 <tronner> epsy: (insult [<target>]) -- Reply optionally directed at a random string, person, object, etc.
17:05 <MrBougo> ew
17:05 <MrBougo> .insult ghableska
17:05 <tronner> ghableska - You are nothing but a lewd-minded puddle of vain seagull.
17:05 <ghableska> there we go
17:05 <MrBougo> .crazylate ghableska - You are nothing but a lewd-minded puddle of vain seagull.
17:05 <ghableska> I never knew you could have a puddle of vain seagull
17:05 <MrBougo> funnier when you know the original text
17:06 <MrBougo> lol how could it transform to this
17:06 <tronner> ghableska - you are not nothing but a swimming pool lewd-treated in gull useless.
17:06 <ghableska> o_O
17:06 <MrBougo> oh my
17:07 <ghableska> .tea
17:07 <tronner> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:07 <ghableska> .list alias
17:07 <tronner> ghableska: ?, add, armaconfig, armalize, c, cats, cfg, clone, crazylate, ct, ctf, ctwf, czesc, dogs, finc, house, ladle, lastseen, lock, m, mayhem, mors, night, olej, opme, players, rain, remove, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, speed, st, sty, svinfo, t, tea, tyskie, unlock, whereised, and whoisp4
17:07 <ghableska> .players
17:07 <tronner> ghableska: This data is 31 seconds old; #\DG/# Kangaroo, $T()N3R, $_TrEnT_$ Make, (Nigel), ,,PoP,,, -*$P*-$u<ko, -=}ID< QUARG, -NMT-MindcagE, <~HG^> God, a, andy, Angel, Ã¥VºÃ¿£X, B-rad, Blackshades, Blade, Brïxï, Bucket Hash, CH style, Conan, Cop, Creaser, CTônreal, Cution, D!3N$, DarthKnüs, Death, DePhantom, Die Sowjetmacht, Dj Alenn, el españnl, españnl 100%, French Fry, FrXian, FunYunZ, G5, (2 more messages)
17:07 <ghableska> oops
17:07 <MrBougo> .crazylate [players]
17:07 <tronner> Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
17:07 <MrBougo> its either gonna timeour
17:07 <MrBougo> t
17:07 <MrBougo> either not being funny
17:08 <MrBougo> or either that..
17:08 <MrBougo> .crazylate akira_ deja_vu digitx duudii epsy ghableska GodTodd
17:08 <epsy> ...
17:08 <tronner> I don't know!
17:08 <tronner> ghableska GodTodd epsy of duudii of digitx of deja_vu of akira _
17:08 <ghableska> wtf
17:09 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witricity
17:09 <MrBougo> .crazylate WiTricity, wireless electricity, is a term coined by MIT researchers, to describe the ability to provide electricity to remote objects without wires.
17:09 <tronner> Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
17:09 <MrBougo> pfffff
17:09 <ghableska> :)
17:09 <MrBougo> .tr en es WiTricity, wireless electricity, is a term coined by MIT researchers, to describe the ability to provide electricity to remote objects without wires.
17:09 <tronner> I hear ya!
17:09 <deja_vu> o.o
17:09 <MrBougo> .babelfish translate tr en es WiTricity, wireless electricity, is a term coined by MIT researchers, to describe the ability to provide electricity to remote objects without wires.
17:09 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: "'tr'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
17:10 <MrBougo> .babelfish translate en es WiTricity, wireless electricity, is a term coined by MIT researchers, to describe the ability to provide electricity to remote objects without wires.
17:10 <ghableska> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270127199195
17:10 <tronner> MrBougo: WiTricity, electricidad sin hilos, es un término acuñado por los investigadores de MIT, para describir la capacidad de proporcionar electricidad a los objetos alejados sin los alambres.
17:10  * deja_vu translates MrBougo to navajo
17:10 <MrBougo> .babelize es en WiTricity, electricidad sin hilos, es un término acuñado por los investigadores de MIT, para describir la capacidad de proporcionar electricidad a los objetos alejados sin los alambres.
17:10 <tronner> MrBougo: WiTricity, electricity without spiral spiral, is término acuñado of the investigators of the MIT, to describes the capacity to provide electricity to the separated objects without the wires.
17:10 <MrBougo> rofl
17:10 <MrBougo> without spiral spiral.... o rly?
17:11 <MrBougo> ghableska: funny ebay
17:11 <MrBougo> if i had an account... i'd sell a $1 bill for $1.01
17:11 <MrBougo> or $0.99
17:12 <philippeqc> 0.99 plus shipping
17:12 <MrBougo> oh shipping indeed
17:12 <MrBougo> now ima keyhunt!
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: there's no automatic mechanism in xml to do what you're asking, afaik.  Just remember, how you interpret the attributes is completely up to you, xml is only concerned with how well-formed the file is
17:13 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: but isnt there some id thing, where you define them before and reuse them
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of, you have to create one and interpret it your way
17:14 <philippeqc> as I type this, I realise that I'm basically answering my prob
17:14 <philippeqc> ID and IDs
17:14 <philippeqc> that are enforced by the dtd, must refer to something that is defined
17:14 <epsy> MrBougo, did you tried any nex arena ?
17:14 <philippeqc> ok, thanks
17:17 <MrBougo> epsy, watcha mean
17:17 <epsy> well, that a config where you can only use nexguns
17:18 <digitx> :)
17:18 <digitx> hi epsitremx
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh
17:19 <digitx> heh
17:19 <Lucifer_arma> I guess you knew the answer already then :)
17:19 <epsy> huh ?
17:19 <MrBougo> oh yes i did
17:19 <digitx> tremx rulez
17:19 <digitx> :D
17:19 <MrBougo> its a bit funny
17:19 <epsy> digitx, it does, but i'm still called epsy
17:25 -!- Ady-Lucifer [i=Adry@183.Red-83-51-205.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #armagetron
17:26 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
17:26 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:26 <epsy> hay Ady-Lucifer :)
17:26 <Ady-Lucifer> hi epsy
17:26 <digitx> hi epsytremx
17:26 <digitx> :D
17:26 <epsy> digitx, it does, but i'm still called epsy
17:26 <digitx> hi epsytremx
17:26 <epsy> digitx, it does, but i'm still called epsy
17:26 <digitx> hi epsytremx
17:26 <epsy> digitx, it does, but i'm still called epsy
17:26 <Ady-Lucifer> ...
17:26 <tronner> I don't have a clue.
17:26 <digitx> hi epsy + tremx
17:26 <epsy> digitx, flooder
17:26 <digitx> epsy, spammer
17:27 <Ady-Lucifer> you,kids
17:27 <digitx> :)
17:29 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv elim
17:30 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
17:30 <Ady-Lucifer> is it empty?
17:30 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv alt
17:30 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending: No online players.
17:30 <Ady-Lucifer> .serv wild
17:30 <tronner> Ady-Lucifer: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (14/14): CT|orly?, Cution, G5, Hamar, Incoming, K alf ñ	°¯fLasH, KaMiKc Clon, Luzifer, mañn, Oooooo, ork, POYASTROL, Someone, ~T~Legionnaire
17:30 <epsy> :o
17:31 <epsy> hull
17:31 <epsy> *full
17:31 <Ady-Lucifer> yeah
17:32 <Ady-Lucifer> talking about the server list- it would be cool having 2 pages, one page of most used servers ( more traffic), and other secondary ones
17:32 <epsy> :o
17:32 <epsy> i was going to forget someting
17:32 <Ady-Lucifer> i mean ingame, so u can see the good servers and the "others" wouldnt be showed by default
17:33 <epsy> lol!
17:33 <epsy> man
17:33 <luke-jr_work> Ady-Lucifer: so what you mean is
17:33 <luke-jr_work> I should run a server list of servers I host
17:34 <luke-jr_work> so you know the good ones
17:34 <luke-jr_work> :)
17:34 <epsy> mayhem is full too wow
17:34 <epsy> lol!
17:34 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
17:34 <Ady-Lucifer> no , but would be nice cleaning the list :)
17:36 <epsy> from unsused servers ?
17:36 <epsy> mm
17:36 <epsy> i think servers that aren't resolved shouldn't be displayed on list by default
17:36 <Ady-Lucifer> and maybe im too imaginative, but wont be way more fair to put an automatic kick system,per example when a guy teamkills 3 times he gets automatically kicked, then there wont be the "kick the noob" issue, and they'll learn to play :) ( the annoying people can be silenced, no need to kick)
17:37 <epsy> it's damn annoying when you sort by name
17:38 <Ady-Lucifer> yup, there is some kind of "score" near to the ping and users but i dont get whats that, i put + to it and it gets low
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17:39 <Ady-Lucifer> if we all could give points to a server so it shows first etc like in google with the websites, you can set one to be in first place :P
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  damn, where's joe?
17:41 <Ady-Lucifer> Lucifer_arma, is that karma system going to be implemented someday?
17:41 <epsy> Ady-Lucifer, this already exists
17:41 <Ady-Lucifer> im outdated
17:47 <epsy> heh
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> you know what's annoying when you sort by name?
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> all the freaking clan servers
17:48 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the ones that start with !, or ~, or |, or [
17:49 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ip adresses are even worse
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I don't think so.  IP Addresses sort nicely
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> but what you wind up with with clans is, for example:
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> [NOOB] CLaN SeRVeR
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> |ARMA| KlAn SeRvEr
17:50 <Lucifer_arma> are those in alphabetical order?
17:51 <epsy> yes
17:51 <Ady-Lucifer> sort by monthly traffic :P
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17:53 <Lucifer_arma> no, A comes before N in every language that uses that alphabet
17:53 <epsy> [ comes before A :P
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> ah, see, that's my point :)
17:54 <epsy> well, you can:
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> the words aren't in order, but because of how sorting works (in general) there's a large part of the list that's not sorted well
17:54 <epsy> 1/ mask the servers beginning with these chars and force admins to choose another name
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I think I know what to do about it.  Just strip non-alpha characters from the sort, but list them with non-alpha characters
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> probably do it case-insensitive, too
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, I'd put all the numbers last because I can't stand the ip addresses being listed first either
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I'll look at it sometime :)
17:55 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, remove them by default, we don't need them
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, suggestion for a ui to show them?
17:56 <epsy> maybe
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> we do need them for debugging purposes, not just development debugging, but also for server admins to debug their configs
17:58 <epsy> yes, that why i said « by default »
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> right, that's why I asked for ui suggestions :)
18:03 <MrBougo> epsy, i love wacka-wacka
18:04 <MrBougo> how to make map easily
18:04 <MrBougo> maps*
18:04 <MrBougo> with a stupid music
18:04 <MrBougo> it's damn stuck in my head
18:04 <MrBougo> damndamndamn get out of there
18:05 <epsy> lol!
18:05 <MrBougo> you know, that map with the lava pool in the middle
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18:05 <MrBougo> that acts like a random lift
18:05 <ghableska> o.0
18:05 <MrBougo> hello ghab :p
18:05 <MrBougo> talking about a nexuiz map
18:05 <epsy> yes i know
18:05 <MrBougo> a sucky map
18:06 <MrBougo> BUT THE MUSIC IS AWESOME
18:06 <MrBougo> argh
18:06  * MrBougo dies
18:06 <ghableska> er
18:07  * MrBougo extracted it from the map archive
18:07 <MrBougo> i'm trying to exorcize it
18:07 <MrBougo> so it wont be stuck in my ears anymore
18:08 <epsy> MrBougo, did you tried silversky with mow gravity and nexguns ? xD
18:08 <epsy> it's goore xD
18:08 <MrBougo> mow?
18:08 <MrBougo> how can you test a map
18:08 <epsy> map command :P
18:08 <MrBougo> oh ok :p
18:09 <MrBougo> silvercity?
18:10 <MrBougo> aw
18:10 <MrBougo> never use laser when you got that blue symbol
18:10 <epsy> wait i'm searching a demo with it
18:10 <epsy> xD
18:10 <epsy> the blue symbol is strenght
18:10 <MrBougo> silvercity or silversky?
18:10 <epsy> wait
18:10 <MrBougo> and the red one?
18:12 <MrBougo> epsy, i typed "give hagar" and i got some random message
18:13 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nexuiz/2007-06-06_16-20_silvercity.dem
18:14 <MrBougo> epsy... i need the map to do this
18:18 <epsy> it's in default distrib i think
18:18 <epsy> yes it is
18:22 <MrBougo> i luv capturecity
18:23 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nexuiz/2007-06-06_16-16_silvercity.dem
18:23 <epsy> this one show it even more bloody xD
18:23 <epsy> yeah me too
18:23 <epsy> go the way to the nex ? :P
18:24 <mkzelda> how do you pronounce nexuiz?
18:24 <mkzelda> nex-y-z?
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> I say "joe's stupid game"
18:24 <epsy> nex -u-iz
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I don't because I haven't played it
18:24 <mkzelda> i like it
18:24 <MrBougo> epsy, you know the place where you get the nex
18:24 <MrBougo> there's a car
18:24 <MrBougo> with "linux" written on it
18:25 <epsy> yes i know how to get to it :P
18:25 <MrBougo> xD
18:25 <MrBougo> heh, just use lasers
18:25 <MrBougo> is there any other way?
18:25 <epsy> what's the map's exact name ?
18:25 <MrBougo> capturecity_v2r1
18:25 <epsy> well, you can use a rocket if ff is on
18:25 <MrBougo> you have to move the map from dlcache to data
18:26 <MrBougo> bah, laser works too
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18:29 <mkzelda> im chargin muh laserz!
18:36 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nexuiz/2007-06-08_18-37_aggressor.dem
18:36 <epsy> lol
18:36 <epsy> l love this map
18:36 <epsy> *i
18:37 <philippeqc> what should I do with a dem file?
18:37 <philippeqc> it is not very screenshotty
18:39 <MrBougo> just dl nexuiz
18:39 <MrBougo> it's like 200 megs :p
18:40 <MrBougo> whoops, i'm supposed to eat
18:41 <mkzelda> 250
18:41 <mkzelda> + the mappack for another 100mb
18:42 <MrBougo> does he need the mappack?
18:42 <MrBougo> what the
18:42 <MrBougo> 100mb maps?
18:42 <MrBougo> that's huge
18:42 <MrBougo> how much maps?
18:42 <epsy> :P
18:42 <epsy> many :)
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> don't worry, our maps will wind up being 100mb
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> that's planned for zones v3
18:42 <epsy> hehehehe
18:42 <MrBougo> hehe
18:43 <mkzelda> 35 Map pack
18:43 <mkzelda> This is a community map pack compiled by Strahlemann. It includes 35 maps, and a campaign mode for the user to fight through. The map pack includes Quake3 communtiy maps, Nexuiz community maps, and some new maps from Nexuiz developers. Credit is given for all of the authors. To install it just unzip the file into your main Nexuiz directory.
18:43 <mkzelda> thats the 100mb addon
18:43 <philippeqc> 20 -rw-r--r-- 3 ph ph 17452 2007-06-08 18:41 HamburgerHill-a.aamap.xml
18:43 <Lucifer_arma> hell, we could do it now.  Fill up a map with spaces
18:43 <mkzelda> not needed, but should ge tit sometime
18:43 <epsy> mkzelda, ah, wasn't it included in 2.2 ?
18:43 <Lucifer_arma> webserver with gzip enabled should still send a pretty small file, but it would take up 100mb on disk.  We'd be the awesomest game in the world if we could send a 100mb on-disk map in the time it takes to send 50kb
18:43 <mkzelda> no
18:43 <philippeqc> 17k atm, I think I'll get it up to max 25k on this one
18:43 <mkzelda> 2.3 either
18:44 <mkzelda> http://alientrap.org/nexuiz/index.php?module=downloads
18:44 <mkzelda> see its listed seperatly
18:44 <philippeqc> that would be very good transfer!
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: we need a tag in all of our resources, a special tag
18:44 <philippeqc> what kind?
18:44 <MrBougo> luci, add some polygon shapes
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> <thistagintentionallyleftblank />
18:44 <MrBougo> +textures
18:44 <philippeqc> lol
18:44 <MrBougo> to the arma maps
18:45 <philippeqc> MrBougo: I'm making this one with polygon zones
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> talk to philippeqc (hi there!) about the maps (working on decreasing the bus factor there)
18:45 <epsy> and animated textures!
18:45 <MrBougo> are you?
18:45 <mkzelda> thats only 3mb  / map
18:45 <MrBougo> phi, you're mad
18:45 <philippeqc> yep
18:45 <philippeqc> what???
18:45 <MrBougo> poly zones...
18:45 <MrBougo> with zonesV2?
18:46 <MrBougo> but how...
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's like one of the big innovations in zones v2
18:46 <MrBougo> are the client compatible with this?
18:46  * epsy wonders how it could be rendered
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> not 0.3 and lower
18:46 <philippeqc> how? one vertex at a time
18:46 <MrBougo> oh ok
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: I suspect we'd render polygons as polygons, but I could be wrong about that
18:46 <philippeqc> the might of xml!
18:46 <MrBougo> hehe
18:46 <MrBougo> a single polygon with moving textures
18:46 <MrBougo> or a simple polygon turning around
18:47 <MrBougo> it depends of what you want to get
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect the visual effects are going to come out really nice, if entirely unintended
18:47 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, i mean, do we use the same graph for it ? some walls flying around ?
18:47 <philippeqc> untextured yet (or rather, flat coloring, not bars like the circle one)
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> aww, no bars?  you're ruining the psyechedelic experince of this game!
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> how do you expect to get more noobs than pros?
18:48 <epsy> :P
18:48 <philippeqc> I'm not there yet, I didnt say I would not add it ;)
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> dont worry, I spent a few brain cycles wondering how to compute the angular velocity of bars on an arbitrary polygon myself and gave up
18:48 <philippeqc> MrBougo: it should end up with polygon turning and moving around
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> not saying I couldn't do it, just couldn't do it with the few brain cycles I allocated for it
18:48 <epsy> (when will colored lightning come to arma ?)
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, that would be pretty cool
18:49 <MrBougo> huh
18:49 <MrBougo> so what
18:49 <MrBougo> you're gonna release some new ver?
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> wait, isn't that what explosions are right now?
18:49 <philippeqc> epsy, what do you mean=
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: no, we're just going to keep it to ourselves until EA buys the rights to the game
18:49 <MrBougo> oh ok
18:49 <philippeqc> MrBougo: it is already in the trunk
18:49 <epsy> around team yellow's zone, we could have some yellow lightning
18:49 <philippeqc> o ok
18:49 <Lucifer_arma> er, that's not what I was thinking for lightning
18:49 -!- MrBougo is now known as MrObvious
18:50 <MrObvious> oh shit, MrObvious is registered
18:50 -!- MrObvious is now known as MrObvious2
18:50 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:50 <philippeqc> well, you can control the color of the zone from the map... but doesnt match it to the team yet
18:50 <MrObvious2> -NickServ-          Registered: 1 year 45 weeks (19h 53m 42s) ago
18:50 <MrObvious2> -NickServ-           Last Seen: 6 days (17h 50m 36s) ago
18:50 <epsy> back to old ages ? :}
18:50 <MrObvious2> mrobvious is pretty active
18:50 <mkzelda> cptobvious
18:50 -!- MrObvious2 is now known as CptObvious
18:50 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as CaptainObvious
18:50 <CptObvious> not registerd :)
18:51 <CaptainObvious> awww, registered
18:51 -!- CptObvious is now known as Lucifer_arma
18:51 <epsy> nsobious maybe
18:51 <philippeqc> I'm registered but I lost my password. What to do?
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> shit im stuck
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> i cant nick anymore
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> i'm bogus
18:51 <epsy> philippeqc, ask the staff
18:51 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as MsObvious
18:51 <MsObvious> oh
18:51 <mkzelda> ahhh Lucifer_arma, sed didnt do that problem for me and it does now :(
18:51 <mkzelda> the ljr prob
18:51 -!- CaptainObvious is now known as Lucifer_arma
18:51  * philippeqc ask epsy, what staff
18:51 <MsObvious> sry for stealing your nick luci :p
18:51 <mkzelda> heh
18:51 <epsy> freenode staff :P
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> don't worry, I was talking to nickserv about getting it back :)
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18:52 <Lucifer_arma> re ghableska (hi there!)
18:52 <ghableska> thanks
18:52 <MsObvious> hiho ghableska
18:52 <ghableska> hi bougo
18:52 <MsObvious> Lucifer_arma: is "hi there" in your autocompletion?
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> yes, MsObvious (hi there!) , it's in my autocompletion
18:53 <epsy> MsObvious, obvious
18:53 <MsObvious> ghableska: it's like... the third time? that i say hello :p
18:53 <ghableska> heh, yeah
18:53 <MsObvious> btw how did you know that i was bougo
18:53 -!- MsObvious is now known as MrBougo
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> it was obvious
18:53 <ghableska> no one else says "hiho"
18:53 <ghableska> afaik
18:53 <MrBougo> oh right
18:53 <MrBougo> nickserv identify bahbluh
18:53 <MrBougo> oopsy
18:53 <MrBougo> j/k :p
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, in french, his native language, tht would be pronounced "wow, look at them titties"
18:54 <MrBougo> i approve
18:54 <MrBougo> err
18:54 <MrBougo> i mean he's right
18:54 <MrBougo> hiho Lucifer_arma
18:54 <MrBougo> hiho hiho
18:55 <MrBougo> jesus, this track is amazing
18:55  * MrBougo is now playing: Delerium feat. Isabel Bayrakdarian - Angelicus (andy moor radio edit) (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!)
18:55 <epsy> MrBougo, keyhunt ?
18:55 <MrBougo> epsy, no
18:55 <epsy> meh
18:55 <MrBougo> i dont wanna waste my music
18:55 <epsy> mkzelda, ?
18:55 <MrBougo> ok epsy :p
18:56 <MrBougo> mkzelda: i'm bogus
18:56 <GodTodd> msg nickserv identify bougolovesdick
18:56 <epsy> nwm.de ?
18:56 <MrBougo> ima rename
18:56 <MrBougo> GodTodd:
18:56 <GodTodd> MrBougo: :)
18:56 <MrBougo> msg godtodd indeed, i love yours
18:56 <MrBougo> oops
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> msg nickserv identify thispasswordisblank
18:56 <MrBougo> msg GodTodd even though its tiny
18:57  * epsy is on nwm.de keyhunt now
18:57 <Lucifer_arma> is it smaller than hyphy's?
18:57 <MrBougo> dunno
18:57 <GodTodd> msg MrBougo only because you use metric
18:57 <MrBougo> aw
18:57 <MrBougo> millimetric you mean
18:57 <Lucifer_arma> er, you got yer numbers mixed up, GodTodd (hi there!)
18:57 <Lucifer_arma> 1 inch > 1 cm
18:57 <MrBougo> 1" >> 1 mm
18:57 <Lucifer_arma> 1 inch >>> MrBougo's penis
18:58 <MrBougo> did you mean <<<
18:58 <GodTodd> 1 cm >>>> luke-jr_work's penis
18:58 <GodTodd> :)
18:58 <MrBougo> and >>> isnt math
18:58 <mkzelda> enjoy DI while u still can bougo
18:58 <MrBougo> >> is
18:58 <MrBougo> i know mkzelda :(
18:58 <mkzelda> :(
18:58 <MrBougo> that's pretty sad
18:58 <digitx> <GodTodd> 1 cm >>>> luke-jr_work's penis
18:58 <digitx> <GodTodd> :)
18:58 <digitx> LOL
18:58 <digitx> LOL
18:58 <MrBougo> i really hope that THAT DAMN ROYALTIES WILL BE DAMNED TILL THE END OF TIMES
18:58 <digitx> lol godtood XD
18:59  * GodTodd has no problem with people getting royalties...just with people being overly greedy about them :)
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> Luci's penis:  B===D
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait, that's not right
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> Luci's penis:  B=A=D
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> there, that's better
19:04 <Ady-Lucifer> which luci?
19:04 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
19:04 <GodTodd> is that a growth?
19:04 <GodTodd> i'd get that checked out...
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's an A, what does it look like?
19:04 <MrBougo> rofl
19:04 <MrBougo> roflmao
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> you should know what it is, you left it there
19:05 <GodTodd> a dickclip?
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> actually, that A is luke-jr's anus
19:05 <GodTodd> ah...i always knew he was a closet freak :)
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> he likes to get freaky in the closet?  Why didn't anyone tell me?
19:06 <GodTodd> why do you think he won't come out of it?
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> man, my wife used to have this thing for a walk-in closet we used to have.
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> we'd be all naked, start kissing and stuff on the bed, and she'd drag me into the closet to do the deed
19:06 <GodTodd> heh
19:07  * GodTodd tries not to picture Lucifer_arma naked
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19:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I need a good xml description for a generic data request
19:10 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: what about a type:value pairing <request type="some predefined value">DATA GOES HERE</request>
19:10 <philippeqc> s/some predefined value/some predefined type/
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> I was leaning that way
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> what would the whole conversation look like, though?
19:17 <philippeqc> Hummmmmm
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19:18 <philippeqc> <request query="employeAge" />
19:18 <philippeqc> <response type="year">23</response>
19:18 <philippeqc> it is VERY generic
19:18 <philippeqc> read: too much
19:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, response needs to be, well, here, join #eugenics first :)
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19:27 <MrBougo> bye all
19:27 <MrBougo> joli jeu epsy :p
19:27 <epsy> MrBougo,
19:27 <MrBougo> yup
19:27 <epsy> le shader d'échelle xD
19:27 <MrBougo> hein?
19:27 <epsy> pour grimper sr le batiment xD
19:27 <MrBougo> ah wé
19:27 <epsy> xD
19:27 <MrBougo> c'est la merde hein :p
19:27 <MrBougo> 'faut prendre un autre côté
19:28 <MrBougo> ah y'a une échele?
19:28 <epsy> nan ça va
19:28 <epsy> MrBougo, en quelque sorte
19:28 <MrBougo> une échelle ou bien un truc qui t'empèche de grimper au laser
19:28 <epsy> aa c pour çaaa xD
19:28 <MrBougo> bah y'a des machins qui sortent
19:28 <MrBougo> le batiment est pas un bête parallélépipède
19:29 <epsy> lol ?
19:29 <epsy> ah x
19:29 <epsy> d
19:29 <MrBougo> http://www.explosm.net/comics/921/
19:29 <MrBougo> roflmao!
19:29 <MrBougo> and the previous one is amazing too
19:29 <MrBougo> bye :p
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19:29 <epsy> heh
19:30 <epsy> nice qui msg
19:30 <epsy> *quit
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19:35 <Adry_> .tea
19:35 <tronner> Adry_: Fortress Café: No online players.
19:35 <Adry_> .serv elim
19:35 <tronner> Adry_: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (8/16): =T= Legionnaire, Ðúrkå	Scroach, Kamakazi, Raven Valukar, ~*SP*~Foper~, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~*SP*~Sasha, ¦×¥ Foper
19:41 <digitx> .serv swamp
19:41 <tronner> digitx: Swampland in 2.7.1: No online players.
19:42 <digitx> .serv norm's
19:42 <tronner> digitx: Norm's Place: Players (7/12): $_TrEnT_$ GöKu, EDU, Jop, kapdeporc, pierre, Soulja, ~{GP}~noname
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19:54 <luke-jr_work> losers
19:54 <epsy> Indeed!
19:54 <epsy> :)
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20:09 <P4> epsy: google stop its api's  service, i cant get license
20:10 <epsy> oh
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20:20 <GodTodd> who does luke-jr_work think are losers now?
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20:40 <Adry_> .tea
20:40 <tronner> Adry_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): /nºs\ luigi, K-Yo, Knight |mbc|, Lackadaisical, madmax, Monkey, Neo, SlµRM, Teth, ¦×¥ Legit
20:57 <epsy> .ping
20:57 <tronner> pong
20:58 <P4> lobotomy's apllied on one channel :P
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21:12 <ghableska> .weather 50266
21:12 <tronner> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 72.9°F (2:14 PM CDT on June 08, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.07 in 984.3 hPa (Steady).
21:14 <ghableska> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hktO3OdOPbs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo%2Ecom%2Fgadgets%2Fi%2Dlove%2Dliverpool%2Fcrazy%2Drotating%2Dwall%2Dmakes%2Dyou%2Dwonder%2Dif%2Dyou%2Dare%2Dcrazy%2Dtoo%2D267081%2Ephp
21:14 <ghableska> >_<
21:14 <P4> .ln http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hktO3OdOPbs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo%2Ecom%2Fgadgets%2Fi%2Dlove%2Dliverpool%2Fcrazy%2Drotating%2Dwall%2Dmakes%2Dyou%2Dwonder%2Dif%2Dyou%2Dare%2Dcrazy%2Dtoo%2D267081%2Ephp
21:14 <tronner> P4: http://ln-s.net/aha
21:14 <P4> aha :}
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21:51 <Vanhayes> .weather saint john
21:52 <tronner> Vanhayes: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Low plus 5 with risk of frost.; Saturday - Sunny. Wind becoming south 20 km/h in the morning. High 25 except 16 along the coast. UV index 7 or high. Saturday night..a few clouds. Wind south 20 km/h becoming (1 more message)
21:53 <Vanhayes> .more
21:53 <tronner> Vanhayes: light in the evening. Low 6.; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 22.;
22:00 <mkzelda> .weather 27545
22:01 <tronner> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 98.4°F (4:03 PM EDT on June 08, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).
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22:17 <Lucifer_arma> well that wasn't so bad
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> hey mkzelda (hi there!) , you do drupal support, right?
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22:22 <mkzelda> yea
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> I've got a guy who's about to look at drupal, and I quoted phone support for install and configure at $25/hour (probably a little low)
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> there's 2 other options available for him to contract with me, but the one I'm going to have the hardest meeting is if he goes with drupal and wants the phone support
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'd just as soon refer him to you, what kind of rate would you give for that and what kind of finder's fee do I get?  ;)
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> there might be custom programming involved in a drupal-oriented deal still, and if you got the referral from me, I'd expect the custom coding to come back, knowwhatimean?
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22:52 <mkzelda> that rate probably is low, but its higher than the $20 ive been charging (cause i need business)
22:53 <mkzelda> and yea, i dont wanna do any custom coding
22:53 <mkzelda> so thats a fair exchange
23:14 <Adry_> .tea
23:14 <tronner> Adry_: Fortress Café: Players (18/32): -*$P*-$u<ko, Anun, åopåritiøm, chat, Ðûqkå, G5, Lackadaisical, madmax, MaZuffeR, Pino, Thokul, Tîger, ~ X ~, ¢T¦$afari$kater, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥Hoax, °°RageMOAR
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: finders fee?  (assuming a percentage)
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> and you probably outta email me your phone number so I'll have it if that's the route he wants to go
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> and I"ll just tell him I know a guy who does drupal all day and all night and can give him better support for a lower price
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh, ok, here's my finder's fee offer.  :)  I'll reciprocate with one for you if he goes for custom coding.  Say we go 15%, and you wind up referring him back to me
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> both bills wind up $2000, we break even on finder's fees and don't bother.  If my bill winds up more (not willing to guess which way it'll go), you'll get the difference, and vice versa
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> so you try to sell him on a whole ton of custom coding with just a little bit of support, and you make out like a bandit :)
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> not that big a deal, just that if he doesn't end up with custom coding, I'd like a little kickback for the referral.  Doesn't even have to be this one deal, could be a coding referral you've got hanging around or something.  I don't think you'll have to sell this guy much to get him to go with you,
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> if that's the route he goes.
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> now to dig through my saved phone messages and find someone to buy my truck
23:32 <mkzelda> you have aim/jabber/icq?
23:32 <mkzelda> or i suppose pm works as well
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you know my domain, you can very easily guess my email address

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00:21 <ghableska_> agh
00:21 <ghableska_> blue screen of death -_-
00:23 <ghableska_> .tea
00:23 <tronner> ghableska_: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): -*$P*-$u<ko, bug Z, Ðûqkå, G5, Jimmy Swift, lollypop, Måfñîe, Mental, Rogue, t1, tom, [nrx], ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ¦×¥ FoFo
00:24 <Vanhayes> pong
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00:35 <tronner> P4: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 37 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <epsy> .ping
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01:21 <ghableska> hey DrJoeTron
01:21 <DrJoeTron> yo
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01:32 <Adry_> ..tea
01:32 <tronner> I don't have a clue!
01:32 <Adry_> .tea
01:32 <tronner> Adry_: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Ocram, Ossi, pavelo, SlµRM, Zop, ~*SP*~viper~, °¯SageMOAR
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01:43 <mkzelda> http://mkzelda.com/files/images/ihaveadream.jpg
01:55 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: ping
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01:59 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: im interested in setting up a nexuiz server, i need some price quotes, at your convenience
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02:16 <Lucifer_arma> hey DrJoeTron (hi there!) , why aren't you in #afl anymore?
02:17 <DrJoeTron> good question
02:18 <GodTodd> cuz he thinks i gave him the std
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, how's your calc class going?
02:18 <GodTodd> i'll find out monday...results of test 1
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> wheeeeee
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> done your first derivatives then, I take it?
02:19 <GodTodd> seems derivatives are easier than limits tho
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> that's because they are :)
02:19 <GodTodd> well...we've started derivatives now...first test was limits
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> ah
02:20 <GodTodd> we got a list of rules we have to memorize and apply on demand on wednesday
02:20 <GodTodd> :)
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> did you work much with the difference quotient before they laid the rules on you?
02:20 <GodTodd> yep
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> oh good.  :)
02:21 <GodTodd> f(x+h) - f(x)/h
02:21 <GodTodd> right?
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> seems to me the kids that don't work with it have more problems later on, when it actually matters that you understand how the derivative is actually taken
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's right, except your two f calls are in the numerator together :)
02:21 <GodTodd> yeah...the way he did it...you see directly how the limit is related to the derivative
02:21 <GodTodd> yeah...but that's hard to do in irc :P
02:22 <GodTodd> f(x+h)/h - f(x)/h
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> those rules are fun, and very useful, but man, the looks of confusion people get later when they don't recognize it
02:22 <GodTodd> better? ;)
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> (f(x+h) - f(x))/h
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> not that hard, when you're talking to programmers :)
02:22 <GodTodd> yeah...i suppose that works too
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> now we just need a syntax highlighting irc client
02:22 <GodTodd> i like the power rule :)
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> very powerful
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> do any physics problems with it yet, or still just working on theory?
02:23 <GodTodd> that's almost a piers anthony level pun :P
02:23 <GodTodd> well...he used an example of a rock being blown up in the air
02:23 <GodTodd> that was kinda fun
02:24 <GodTodd> then he showed how to find marginal cost and revenue
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> standard first derivative problem, actually
02:24 <GodTodd> yep
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> we used the rock falling, actually, we used a calc textbook falling
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'm kind of asking all these questions for a reason, if you hadn't guessed yet
02:25 <GodTodd> i kinda suspected
02:25 <GodTodd> heh
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> the simulation for eugenics is more than likely going to need a fair amount of calculus, since calc is all about modeling, and we're trying to model the world :)
02:26 <GodTodd> right
02:32 <GodTodd> does that mostly involve derivatives or what?
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need to go both ways, actually
02:32 <GodTodd> well...i should be getting into integrals in july
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> see, we'll probably implement in code actual derivatives, i.e. rates of change, but we need to be able to do the integrals so we can see what the model looks like
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> there may not be a lot of calculus in the code, but we'll need it to check the model
02:33 <GodTodd> right
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like to put the functions we come up with on the wiki so people who know the math can read them :)
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> which should be just algebra needed for that, unless we need logarithms (we probably will)
02:34 <GodTodd> probably
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> most real world models use them
02:35 <GodTodd> my calc class is teaching us how to cheat too
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> we need a realistic pop growth model to check city growth, that sort of thing
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> cheat with calculus?
02:35 <GodTodd> yep
02:35 <GodTodd> mathematica
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, heh
02:35 <GodTodd> :)
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> we didn't even see mathematica until calc 3
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> that's available for linux, you know
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'd suggest you check out wxMaxima while you're at it
02:36 <GodTodd> yeah...if you want to buy a license
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> wxMaxima is Free
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> gotta cook some more, bbiab
02:38  * GodTodd already cooked....lovely outdoor-grilled sirloin steak :)
02:38 <GodTodd> yummy
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04:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hey guys
04:16 <Rebel_Eclipsed> There was a server called despiration...
04:17 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I'd like to know how to set up something similar....
04:17 <Rebel_Eclipsed> so how do I set things so the bike starts slow and continually gets faster
04:17 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I checked the WIKI and didn't see any thing in the console commands area
04:21 <luke-jr_> set your initial speed to 0
04:21 <luke-jr_> and normal speed to 15
04:21 <luke-jr_> or such
04:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> ahh ok
04:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> so if I set to 0 and then normal speed to like 100
04:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I see
04:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> thanks Luke
04:23 <luke-jr_> np
04:23 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Server has been great by the way
04:23 <luke-jr_> :)
04:23 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I had some folks asking about shooting
04:23 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I don't know if that's an option .. is it?
04:23 <luke-jr_> yeah, the 0.2.8-pig ver
04:24 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I'm not really interested in it tho.. its fun but gets old quick for me
04:24 <luke-jr_> heh
04:25 <Rebel_Eclipsed> alrighty.. back to game play :) Thanks!
04:25 <luke-jr_> :)
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04:32 <Rebel_Eclipsed> Hey luke-jr_
04:32 <luke-jr_> ?
04:32 <Rebel_Eclipsed> sdidn't work so welll
04:33 <Rebel_Eclipsed> started at 0 and immediately went to the higher speed
04:33 <luke-jr_> odd
04:33 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I need a gradual speed increase
04:34 <Rebel_Eclipsed> should I set cycle_accel lower as well?
04:35 <Rebel_Eclipsed> currently at 30
04:36 <Rebel_Eclipsed> gonna go fiddle and see what happens...
04:36 <Rebel_Eclipsed> =)
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04:45 <Rebel_Eclipsed> hmmm
04:45 <Rebel_Eclipsed> just can't figure it out
04:46  * luke-jr_ fiddles with his PS2 emulator
04:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I have
04:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> CYCLE_SPEED 100
04:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> CYCLE_START_SPEED 3
04:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> CYCLE_ACCEL 1
04:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> but it just jumps to 100
04:48 <Rebel_Eclipsed> wrtlprnft any thoughts?
04:49 <Rebel_Eclipsed> it would almost be like and infinite brake with a low boost...
04:49 <Rebel_Eclipsed> but I dunno how I would set it so you don't need to hit the brakes
04:56 <Rebel_Eclipsed> no ideas then?
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04:59 <luke-jr_> holy crap it worked
05:00 <Your_mom_arma> ignoring him?
05:04 <luke-jr_> no
05:04 <luke-jr_> pcsx2
05:04 <luke-jr_> the compile anyhow
05:04 <luke-jr_> my GS plugin seems messed
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05:52 <MrBougo> hi there!
05:52 <MrBougo> .list google
05:52 <tronner> MrBougo: Error: 'google' is not a valid plugin.
05:53 <MrBougo> P4: epsy asked you to enable the google plugin :)
06:00 <mkzelda> who is "someone" on ctwf?
06:04 <GodTodd> MrBougo: i'm sure if you find him a google api key he'll gladly do it :)
06:04 <MrBougo> hehe, easy
06:04 <GodTodd> if it's that easy get me one :P
06:05 <MrBougo> i have mine and i dont remember of it bein difficult
06:05 <GodTodd> it is since they stopped giving them out
06:05 <MrBougo> ack
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06:09 <mkzelda> pcsx2 works quite well
06:12 <MrBougo> shitty shit
06:16 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: does n ot
06:19 <GodTodd> maybe it does on a "sane system" ;)
06:20 <luke-jr_> nope
06:20 <GodTodd> sure luke-jr_...of course...if it doesn't work for you it couldn't *possibly* be your fault
06:21 <luke-jr_> you obviously haven't seen the code
06:21 <GodTodd> you obviously think very highly of yourself
06:21 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: what version are you using anyhow?
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06:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> luke-jr_
06:22 <luke-jr_> ..........
06:22 <tronner> No idea.
06:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> the server I was thinking of is stormcrow's desperation server
06:22 <luke-jr_> and
06:22 <luke-jr_> ?
06:22 <Rebel_Eclipsed> sorry thought maybe you might have some idea.,..
06:23 <luke-jr_> go ask him for his config
06:23 <luke-jr_> :)
06:23 <Rebel_Eclipsed> can't find him
06:23 <Rebel_Eclipsed> ahh well thanks anyway
06:24 <mkzelda> i use 0.8.1 for some games, 0.9.3 for others
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06:25 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: 0.9.3 isn't in portage...
06:25 <luke-jr_> except my overlay, and that's recent
06:25 <mkzelda> and?
06:25 <tronner> It has been said that and is away from internet, so he can't fix armabot, mkzelda
06:25 <mkzelda> who is and?
06:26 <tronner> Somebody said and is away from internet, so he can't fix armabot, mkzelda
06:26 <luke-jr_> and IIRC you use Gentoo
06:26 <luke-jr_> wrtl
06:26 <mkzelda> his name is and
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> wrtl comes back tomorrow(today[depends on where you are]), check his away message
06:27 <Your_mom_arma> "holidays :D Will be away till Jun 9."
06:30 <MrBougo> http://www.truecrypt.org/
06:30 <MrBougo> heh, this is interesting :p
06:30 <MrBougo> it was shipped with my flash voyager gt
06:31 <MrBougo> lolz, crazy
06:31 <MrBougo> he will have tons of highlighted messages to read
06:31 <MrBougo> 80% shit
06:31 <MrBougo> included this: hud font wrtl
06:31 <mkzelda> why is and? a trigger for him, and why is 'who is and?' another trigger for him?
06:32 <MrBougo> did i talk about your messages? :(
06:32 <mkzelda> lol im so confused
06:32 <MrBougo> seems so
06:32 <MrBougo> need some sleep? :p
06:33 <mkzelda> im sure figuring this out will not provide any satisfaction
06:33 <mkzelda> so, im done
06:34 <mkzelda> when the cows say bo selecta
06:35 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: use the menu's auto-download per-game-settings feature, and if the game works, it will work
06:36 <mkzelda> unless you're not running it from a sane environment
06:36 <mkzelda> :D
06:36 <MrBougo> ooooh!
06:36 <MrBougo> mkzelda!
06:36 <MrBougo> our nicks have the same length!
06:36 <MrBougo> :D
06:36 <mkzelda> lol
07:01 <mkzelda> why are russians so integral in cryptography, or is that a positive stereotype?
07:03 <MrBougo> because they arent derivative
07:03 <MrBougo> ok i'm gonna play nexuiz and shut the hell up
08:42 <MrBougo> this message breaks a 1 hour 40 minutes silence
08:42 <MrBougo> not exactly
08:44  * MrBougo is now playing: Mike Foyle - Firefly
08:44 <MrBougo> now this is amazing
08:44 <MrBougo> mkzelda: if DI goes down, i'll buy a premium account
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09:54 <MrBougo> jelo
09:55 <MrBougo> armabot!!!!!
09:55 <MrBougo> ARMABOT!!!!!
09:55 <MrBougo> you know... imissed you
09:55 <MrBougo> #hello
09:55 <armabot> Hello MrBougo :) Random Fortune: BOOK Meanwhile, the starship has landed on the surface || of Magrathea || and Trillian is about to make one of the most || important || statements of her life. Its importance is not || immediately || recognised by her companions. || TRILL. Hey, my white mice have escaped. || ZAPHOD Nuts to your white mice.
09:55 <MrBougo> :D
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> #hi!
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10:20 <MrBougo> yay!
10:20 <MrBougo> i fixed that damn autorun thingie
10:20 <MrBougo> who the hell changed NoDriveTypeAutorun
10:20 <MrBougo> to 0x000000ff
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10:33 <digitx> hay
10:33 <epsy> hi
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10:35 <digitx> hi
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10:35 <digitx> rofl
10:40 <epsy> .lastseen kyle
10:40 <tronner> epsy: -«CT»,Kyle- has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Mayhem 0 days 4 hours 1 minute ago.
10:41 <epsy> hmm
10:41 <digitx> .lastseen noname
10:41 <tronner> digitx: ~{GP}~noname has last been seen on Norm's Place 0 days 8 hours 29 minutes ago.
10:41 <digitx> :)
10:41 <epsy> the aim transport from aim.jaim.at was just removed
10:42 <digitx> yep
10:42 <digitx> no yahoo ?
10:42 <epsy> ?
10:42 <digitx> ...
10:43 <tronner> Wish I knew, digitx.
10:43 <epsy> my yahoo password keeps getting stolen
10:43 <epsy> ...
10:43 <tronner> Wish I knew!
10:43 <digitx> aim and yahoo transport removed
10:43 <epsy> hmm
10:44 <digitx> :|
10:44 <epsy> the msn transport is still not working
10:44 <digitx> now good :o
10:44 <epsy> amsn sux
10:44 <digitx> lol
10:44 <digitx> amsn XD
10:44 <epsy> i wish kopete was working
10:47 <epsy> ima nexuiz...
11:02 <philippeqc> morning all
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11:20 <epsy> morning philippeqc
11:20 <philippeqc> hi
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11:34 <Bougo> BYE ALL
11:34 <Bougo> rah damn cap lock
11:34 <Bougo> when i play some fps i always press that damn key
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13:55 <P4> oh armabot is back! :DD
13:55 <P4> .part
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13:56 <Monkey_> hi p4
13:56 <Monkey_> .tea
13:56 <P4> jo Monkey_
13:56 <P4> armabot is back
13:56 <P4> #tea
13:56 <armabot> P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
13:58 <Monkey_> p4 you want to learn to add different cyles?
13:58 <P4> me?
13:58 <P4> what you mean by different cycles?
13:58 <P4> you mean models?
13:59 <Monkey_> yes
13:59 <Monkey_> you said u have probemm
13:59 <P4> yea i'd like to change my model, i've dload and put cycle_really_low.ase to ./models but dont want to work
13:59 <P4> renamed to cycle.ase too
14:01 <Monkey_> goto #oops-clan
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14:12 <H_A_K> Hi! ^^
14:12 <Monkey_> hi hak
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15:26 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7291 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
15:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Rotation info was incorrectly scaled according to map size.
15:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Rules for zone monitors now can have ZoneInfluence and MonitorInfluence inside them directly. No longer need to have them in and effectGroup.
15:26 <armabot> armagetronad: The init value of a monitor is now set. Behavior is still unexpected!
15:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Shape rotation speed is now properly updated.
15:27 <_Sticky_> wb armabot
15:28 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: now the code is correct enough to show that map I have been working on ;)
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16:08 <P4> #cyborg microsoft
16:08 <armabot> P4: M.I.C.R.O.S.O.F.T.: Mechanical Intelligent Construct Responsible for Online Sabotage, Observation and Forbidden Troubleshooting
16:08 <P4> g2g, later :}
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16:57 <Ady-Lucifer> .tea
16:57 <Ady-Lucifer> #tea
16:57 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:03 <akira_> :(
17:03 <MrBougo> bye
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17:25 <wrtlprnft> #later tell *eclipse* try fiddling with CYCLE_SPEED_MIN and CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_BELOW
17:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
17:28 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7292 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Quick hack to the color element to be able to use a hex code directly.
17:31 <wrtlprnft> so, did i miss anything?
17:32 <GodTodd> nah...we're a pretty boring bunch
17:32 <wrtlprnft> no, the machine armabot is running on didn't crash, armabot just dumped her heart (core) for some reason
17:33 <GodTodd> there were postulations that it was due to a netsplit
17:34 <wrtlprnft> actually it printed some stuff about a berkley DB failure and that I was supposed to fix it
17:34 <GodTodd> heh
17:34 <wrtlprnft> it restarted though, I'll read the complete message if it crashes again
17:39 <deja_vu> !weather karlsruhe
17:40 <deja_vu> :(
17:40 <wrtlprnft> #weather karlsruhe
17:40 <GodTodd> #weather karlsruhe
17:40 <deja_vu> oh.
17:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Temperature: 76°F / 24°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:84 ° F. / 29 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. (1 more message)
17:40 <deja_vu> thanks^^
17:40 <armabot> GodTodd: Temperature: 76°F / 24°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:84 ° F. / 29 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Chance of Rain. (1 more message)
17:40 <wrtlprnft> yw :) got it twice, too :D
18:12 <digitx> armaboooooooot
18:14 <epsy> hay wrtlprnft :)
18:15 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it was just after a netsplit
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18:33 <luke-jr_> wejp: wb
18:33 <luke-jr_> mkzelda: the GS plugin doesn't work
18:44 <luke-jr_> nor does the interpretor
18:59 <mkzelda> what game are you trying?
18:59 <luke-jr_> I'm not even getting that far
19:00 <luke-jr_> BIOS doesn't execute
19:03 <mkzelda> do you have proper bios files?
19:03 <mkzelda> SCPH10000.BIN, and they're region based
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19:04 <Levig> hey
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19:23 <mkzelda> !weather 27545
19:23 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
19:23 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 88.5°F (1:26 PM EDT on June 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady).
19:23 <mkzelda> whoa, it feels hotter than yesterday's 98.4
19:24 <mkzelda> thats be because it is
19:24 <mkzelda> er, that'd be because its hotter than armabot's source
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19:34 <MrBougo> jelo
19:35 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: wb!
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20:29 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:29 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 90.3°F (2:32 PM EDT on June 09, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
20:30 <mkzelda> #weather 48009
20:30 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Troy, Michigan is 73.4°F (2:15 PM EDT on June 09, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
20:39 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: ty
20:39 <MrBougo> :p
20:39 <wrtlprnft> and hi epsy 
20:42 <Ady-Lucifer> #tea
20:42 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): $ÅsïuÁ	¦Ö¦FoFo, /bash/usr/wpn, <y<lo, eggcozy, I/O Bus, Kamakazi, MenTaL, Monkey, Neo, segv, ULTRA, ~ X ~, ~~~J~~~, ¦Ö¦Legit, ©	chat, ¹	van Nelle
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20:51 <Monkey_> .tea
20:55 <digitx> :)
20:55 <deja_vu> :)
20:59 <hang3r> eggcozy come back to playing? wow
20:59 <MrBougo> byebye
20:59 <MrBougo> bahe a bice niht
20:59 <MrBougo> wha(t the ghell
20:59 <hang3r> rofl
20:59 <MrBougo> now i suck at keyboarding
21:00 <MrBougo> have a nice night
21:00 <MrBougo> i'm out
21:00 <MrBougo> that's what i menat
21:00 <MrBougo> maent
21:00 <MrBougo> meant
21:00 <MrBougo> i'm tired
21:00 <MrBougo> and i shoudnt talk anymorre
21:00 <MrBougo> ok i wont
21:00 <MrBougo> cyas!
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21:01 <MrBougo> i meant fixed
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21:17  * epsy will be off from june 10th to june 24th...
21:24 <deja_vu> epsy: hf?
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21:49 <epsy> deja_vu, ???
21:50 <deja_vu> have fun? :P
21:50 <epsy> ah :P
21:51 <deja_vu> :)
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22:13 <_Sticky_> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/115.gif
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22:14 <epsy> lol _Sticky_
22:15 <Ady-Lucifer> #tea
22:15 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): Anun, Beni, FrogStar, Halban, hoop, joana, Mågñïd©	Ar Spar, Monkey, Pino, \Delete(d)/
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22:41 <mkzelda> interesting, my gas bill shows 32 days in june
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> you don't remember the rhyme?  32 days hath september, april june, and mbc|ender
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23:18 <mkzelda> caturday?
23:28 <GodTodd> yeah...day before cuntday
23:28 <mkzelda> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpXmSMWChtQ <-- best caturday ive seen
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23:44 <Ady-Lucifer> #serv elimin
23:45 <mkzelda> haha its funny how many videos there are for ghost riding gone wrong
23:53 <digitx> .serv swamp
23:53 <digitx> #serverinfo swamp
23:53 <armabot> digitx: Swampland in 2.7.1: No online players.
23:53 <digitx> #serverinfo norm's
23:53 <Ady-Lucifer> #serverinfo elim
23:53 <armabot> digitx: Norm's Place: Players (7/12): -]0a|itachi, DrHouse, Mariola_POLSKA, twee, WØ$T¥	Gromit, you need help!, ¦@¦ktair
23:53 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (6/16): <y<lo, chico, Dr.Iglo, MenTaL, ooSageLord, styrophone
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00:14 <epsy> cya
00:14  * epsy will be off from june 10th to june 24th...
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00:21 <P4> #seen durka
00:21 <armabot> P4: durka was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Durka> #ding
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01:07 <Vanhayes> .tea
01:07 <Vanhayes> .serv tea
01:07 <Vanhayes> .serv  cafe
01:07 <Vanhayes> wow armabots back
01:07 <Vanhayes> #tea
01:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): [HCG] \_Dono_/
01:09 <P4> yes :D
01:10 <P4> #last --from armabot
01:10 <armabot> P4: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 5484 messages.
01:10 <P4> .last --from armabot
01:10 <tronner> P4: [01:13:38] <armabot> +P4: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 5484 messages.
01:10 <P4> hmm, what's that + before my name?
01:11 <P4> i dont have voice
01:13 <Vanhayes> #echo BLAH
01:13 <armabot> BLAH
01:13 <Vanhayes> .last --from armabot --nolimit
01:13 <P4> .last --from armabot --nolimit
01:13 <tronner> P4: [01:16:14] <armabot> +BLAH, [01:13:38] <armabot> +P4: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 5484 messages., and [01:10:45] <armabot> +Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): [HCG] \_Dono_/
01:14 <Vanhayes> there we go
01:17 <P4> where's the hell durka
01:18 <P4> he's just close the forums down :|
01:18 <Vanhayes> #lastseen durka
01:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fake Durka has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 1 days 0 hours 24 minutes ago.
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02:49 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen real durka
02:49 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
04:07 <mkzelda> YOU wanna hear a funny story? You know Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered in 1996...
04:08 <mkzelda> -- Barbara Walters, "The View"
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07:26 <MrBougo> hihoo
07:28 <MrBougo> #list alias
07:28 <armabot> MrBougo: roulette, add, armabot, armaconfig, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hello, hey, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, killsomeone, laddle10, lastseen, legit, lock, (2 more messages)
08:47 <MrBougo> gtg
08:47 <MrBougo> #cat
08:47 <armabot> MrBougo: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight: No online players.
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09:08 <philippeqc> morning!
09:09 <philippeqc> I'm looking for 3 to 5 people that can compile the game (from the trunk) to try out a new map
09:15 <wrtlprnft> hi!
09:16 <wrtlprnft> but bbl later, breakfast
09:16 <philippeqc> morning!
09:16 <philippeqc> oki
09:32 <wrtlprnft> back
09:33 <philippeqc> neat
09:33 <philippeqc> how was your vacation!
09:33 <wrtlprnft> nice, but it could have rained less
09:33 <philippeqc> Did you met him to eat some pasta (sadly, I forgot his name)
09:33 <wrtlprnft> rain?
09:33 <philippeqc> O!
09:33 <philippeqc> lol
09:34 <philippeqc> darn, though you where doing the "it rained all the time.... not!" bit here
09:34 <wrtlprnft> no, the drive was already long enough
09:34 <philippeqc> yeah rain.
09:35 <philippeqc> I guess you didnt try to meet him
09:36 <wrtlprnft> would have had a hard time explaining it to my parents, too
09:37 <philippeqc> Hi mom & dad, I'll go and meet a friend and eat dinner with him. See you later! Or some variant of it.
09:37 <wrtlprnft> anyways, I've got a fresh build of arma here :)
09:37 <philippeqc> good
09:37 <philippeqc> I'll make a geocity account to host the map
09:37 <wrtlprnft> err, you know that bologna is some 100 km of our destination?
09:37 <philippeqc> o, though it was a bit closer
09:37  * wrtlprnft wonders if we could support data urls for MAP_FILE
09:38 <philippeqc> how is the data held?
09:38 <wrtlprnft> well, we got quite close to bologna on our way there
09:39 <wrtlprnft> data:text/xml,<!DOCTYPE ...><Resource ...>...</Resource>
09:39 <wrtlprnft> anonymous maps, sort of. For quick testing :D
09:39 <philippeqc> humm, would be usefull for testing
09:41 <philippeqc> ok, now I need to recall the syntax to give the url with the map_file
09:42 <wrtlprnft> data:text/plain;base64,aGkgdGhlcmUgcGhpbGlwcGVxIDpE ← try entering that in a browser != IE
09:42 <wrtlprnft> MAP_FILE <resource path> (http://<host etc>)
09:43 <philippeqc> tr
09:43 <philippeqc> ty
09:43 <wrtlprnft> yw
09:44 <philippeqc> forgot to make a ded server. compiling
09:44 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-a.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/HamburgerHill-a.aamap.xml)
09:44 <philippeqc> in the mean time
09:46 <philippeqc> the association to the spawn points is still totally random, and on local game, you dont get assigned to a team, so that screw the logic a bit
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09:47 <wrtlprnft> neat!
09:47 <wrtlprnft> looks neat, anyways
09:47 <philippeqc> ty
09:47 <wrtlprnft> no clue how it works yet
09:47 <philippeqc> its the first double fortress
09:47 <wrtlprnft> and how to get out of that zone
09:48 <philippeqc> conquering the fortress near the big rotator make it slow down, so someone else has a better chance of entering it and getting to the winzone in it
09:48 <wrtlprnft> and how do i get out of mine in the first place?
09:49 <philippeqc> but, and that is the funny part, leaving the ennemy fortress respawn one of their players.
09:49 <philippeqc> you start outside (or you should)
09:49 <wrtlprnft> well, i don't
09:49 <philippeqc> wait, lemme check
09:49 <wrtlprnft> cycle_brake -100 ftw!
09:50 <philippeqc> what size factor you use?
09:50 <philippeqc> here I spawn well in front of the rotator
09:51 <wrtlprnft> -2
09:51 <wrtlprnft> no, 0 actually
09:52 <wrtlprnft> REAL_ARENA_SIZE_FACTOR is currently set to 1
09:52 <philippeqc> lemme check
09:53 <philippeqc> oups, went back to 0.35
09:53 <philippeqc> size_factor -3 works
09:54 <philippeqc> weird, I set size_factor to 0 from the console, it accepted it, and nothing changed!
09:55 <wrtlprnft> sp_size_factor!
09:55 <wrtlprnft> this is totally different now!
09:55 <philippeqc> o you wrote it too
09:55 <wrtlprnft> well, the size factor that's actually being used
09:56 <philippeqc> lol, i saw it with sp_size_factor 0! darn its not what I want !!!
09:56 <wrtlprnft> -3 works
09:56 <philippeqc> yeah
09:56 <philippeqc> I'll have to fix the parser
09:57 <wrtlprnft> if both zones are conquered the big one rotates backwards by the way
09:57 <philippeqc> really, should not be
09:57 <philippeqc> but I didnt test it yet
10:02 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=588&max=591
10:02 <wrtlprnft> is that how it's supposed to look?
10:03 <philippeqc> yes
10:05  * wrtlprnft should start working on the hud map
10:07 <philippeqc> commited fix
10:07 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7293 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gParser.cpp: The scale factor of zones should not be affected by the scale factor of the arena
10:07 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-b.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/HamburgerHill-b.aamap.xml)
10:08 <philippeqc> note that the maps is in a directory named maps now in the url part
10:09 <wrtlprnft> what happened to the colors?
10:09 <philippeqc> ?
10:10 <philippeqc> you lost them or you realise the fortress change color?
10:10 <philippeqc> when they are over 80% of the conquest
10:10 <wrtlprnft> no, armabot's commit messages lost their color
10:11 <philippeqc> o
10:11 <wrtlprnft> brb
10:11 <philippeqc> its all red for me
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10:14 <wrtlprnft> the small zones stopped working with the new map and binary
10:15 <philippeqc> yes
10:15 <philippeqc> the polygonal ones have their points scaled and the scale not adjusted, and the circle one need the scale to be scaled.
10:15 <philippeqc> ie: I made the wrong fix
10:16 <wrtlprnft> + i broke my left ctrl key
10:17 <digitx> :)
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10:20 <wrtlprnft> fixed it :)
10:20 <philippeqc> your left ctrl key
10:20 <philippeqc> ?
10:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
10:22 <philippeqc> how do I get the pointer out of an tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR ?
10:22 <wrtlprnft> &*ThePtr
10:23 <philippeqc> not just *(thePtr)
10:23 <philippeqc> ?
10:25 <wrtlprnft> that will give you a reference to the object thePtr points to
10:27 <wrtlprnft> T &ref = *ThePtr; // ref is a reference to the object
10:27 <wrtlprnft> T *ptr = &ref; // ptr is the actual pointer
10:27 <wrtlprnft> {T *ptr = &*ThePtr;} //shorter way to write it
10:28 <philippeqc> but to do a dynamic_cast, why do I need a reference. I though it operated on pointers
10:28 <wrtlprnft> both work
10:28 <wrtlprnft> the only difference is that a dynamic cast on a reference will throw a std::bad_cast if it fails, if it's on a pointer it will just return 0
10:29 <philippeqc> ok
10:29 <wrtlprnft> *ThePtr gives you a reference. &*ThePtr gives you a pointer
10:29 <philippeqc> its that *ThePtr returns a reference that confuses me I guess.
10:30 <wrtlprnft> &*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*ThePtr gives you a pointer and a warning, “are you crazy?”
10:30 <wrtlprnft> what else should *ThePtr return?
10:31 <philippeqc> I stored a ptr in it, it should give me back one!
10:31 <wrtlprnft> it could return by value, but that would involve using the copy constructor, which can do quite bad things on polymorphic classes
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10:31 <wrtlprnft> smart pointers try to act like pointers
10:32 <wrtlprnft> if you have an int *realPtr, *realPtr will give you a reference, too!
10:32 <wrtlprnft> after all you want to be able to write something like *realPtr = 42
10:33 <philippeqc> wait, if it returns the class by value, yes its a copy. but to return the ptr to a class?
10:34 <philippeqc> o, never though of *realPtr as giving a ref!
10:34 <wrtlprnft> tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR<int> fakePtr;
10:34 <wrtlprnft> now you want to be able to write *fakePtr = 42;, right?
10:34 <wrtlprnft> if it would return a pointer by value nothing would happen
10:35 <wrtlprnft> if it returned a reference to a pointer it would overwrite the pointer stored in fakePtr with the address 42
10:35 <wrtlprnft> if it returned a pointer you'd have to write **fakePtr = 42;, which sort of sucks. That's why it returns a reference :)
10:36 <philippeqc> I'll have to let that simmer in my head for a while. but i think I get it now. Thanks
10:37 <wrtlprnft> hope i didn't confuse you too much :) yw
10:37 <philippeqc> no, you helped a lot. Mostly the last part.
10:37 <wrtlprnft> btw, there should be a tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR::get() member, at least I know std::auto_ptr has it
10:38 <philippeqc> nope, z-man didnt make a get
10:38 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i see
10:39 <wrtlprnft> 333     operator T*() const {
10:39 <wrtlprnft> 334         return target;
10:39 <wrtlprnft> 335     }
10:39 <wrtlprnft> you could use that
10:39 <wrtlprnft> either fakePtr.operator T*() or static_cast<T *>(fakePtr)
10:40 <wrtlprnft> or just see that it's an implicit conversion operator and use it where a pointer is expected (at least as rvalue, won't work as lvalue)
10:40 <wrtlprnft> correction: either fakePtr.operator int*() or static_cast<int *>(fakePtr)
10:41 <philippeqc> Im using the dynamic_cast to determine if I have a circle or a poly, and size the scale accordingly (need to be adjusted for map size for circle,)
10:45 <wrtlprnft> doesn't sound clean to me :(
10:45 <philippeqc> Ha! frack! it wont work. I cannot scale the scale factor. I need to give a size to the circle, and have it affected by size_factor.
10:46 <philippeqc> and keep the scale pure.
10:46 <wrtlprnft> what about a virtual member (void scale(REAL), for example) of the base class of the two?
10:46 <philippeqc> they have such a member
10:47 <philippeqc> but its the circle size of 1.0 that need to be affected by the arena size! yes, thats it
10:49 <wrtlprnft> you know more about it than me :) Do what needs to be done
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10:50 <wrtlprnft> just worried because it makes adding new shapes harder
10:51 <philippeqc> if you have a poly (a square), each corner would need to be "scaled" to the size_factor currently in use. Then if in game you want it to grow, you apply a scale over it of say 2. that 2 should not be affected by the arena size.
10:52 <philippeqc> now if you make a circle, its original size must also be affected by the arena's size. After that, the same growth mechanism can be applied to make it double size.
10:52 <wrtlprnft> add a new member that modifies the stored coordinates?
10:52 <wrtlprnft> and only gets called once while parsing
10:53 <philippeqc> nope, they are read adjusted for the arena size, the same way that walls are. but the scale gets to be done on those adjusted points
10:54 <wrtlprnft> I still don't understand the problem, sorry
10:54 <philippeqc> I'll fix it! ;)
10:55 <philippeqc> the prob is that I used a shape scale for 2 different thing based on if it was a poly or a circle, and that is a bad thing.
10:56 <MrBougo> philippeqc: still working on your poly zones?
10:56 <philippeqc> yep
10:56 <MrBougo> just one thing
10:56 <MrBougo> what's the purpose of this
10:56 <MrBougo> oooh!
10:57 <MrBougo> nevermind, just found it out
10:57 <philippeqc> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=588&max=591
10:57 <MrBougo> to fit a square zone in a square room, for example
10:57 <MrBougo> because circle zones are boring
10:57 <MrBougo> your hud is...
10:57 <philippeqc> ok, it doesnt really look poly, but notice the holes on the big "rotator". Now try to aim for them to get to the winzone in it as it turn
10:57 <MrBougo> inhuge?
10:58 <philippeqc> yes
10:58 <philippeqc> what?
10:58 <MrBougo> inhuge... wtf?
10:58 <MrBougo> huge i ment
10:58  * wrtlprnft ponders about a maze map with all walls implemented as a big zone that's slowly rotating
10:58 <MrBougo> meant
10:58 <MrBougo> NO NOT AGAIN
10:58 <philippeqc> its wrt's screenshots
10:58 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: evil you!
10:58 <MrBougo> it indeed doesnt look very poly
10:58 <wrtlprnft> that's intended :)
10:59 <wrtlprnft> just enough edges to look like a circle
10:59 <MrBougo> heh, the rotator thingie looks nice
10:59 <MrBougo> that's a good idea, but everyone will try to get that zone and suicide
10:59 <philippeqc> MrBougo: can you compile the source code?
10:59 <MrBougo> phi, i think so
10:59 <MrBougo> i have little bases
11:00 <philippeqc> well yes they will, thats why you should have some teammates conquer the 2 fortress nearby so it spins slower
11:00 <MrBougo> is it c++?
11:00 <philippeqc> yes C++
11:00 <MrBougo> i think i can :p
11:00 <philippeqc> I'll let you check on the wiki how to grab the source and compile it.
11:00 <MrBougo> okay
11:00 <philippeqc> windows or linux or mac
11:00 <MrBougo> i think you should add some file to the wiki
11:01 <philippeqc> yes, that is ALWAYS a good idea
11:01 <MrBougo> some server config file, because the default one is sucky to start or test a server
11:01 <MrBougo> and some nubs who'd like to test get a server with 0 rubber and stuff
11:01 <MrBougo> i mean... you know, no dedicated, but starting a serv with the client
11:02 <philippeqc> if you have some time, I wrote a "from 0 to 60" on how to play the game. Have a look at it
11:02 <MrBougo> 0 to 60 heh
11:02 <MrBougo> lolz
11:02 <philippeqc> there is already a quick tutorial for server
11:02 <philippeqc> not a 0 to 100. Doesnt cover everything
11:02 <philippeqc> ;)
11:02 <MrBougo> erhm, does the wiki look ok to you?
11:02 <MrBougo> i think there's some css broken or something
11:02 <philippeqc> there are different css.
11:03 <MrBougo> this one looks kind of empty
11:03 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: what skin?
11:03 <MrBougo> on the wiki
11:03 <MrBougo> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
11:03 <wrtlprnft> what skin are you using?
11:03 <MrBougo> none
11:04 <MrBougo> i simply clicked and i get a page with some minimalist design
11:04 <MrBougo> where can i upload an image file?
11:05 <MrBougo> i know some of you guys hatre imageshack etc
11:05 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: are you logged into the wiki?
11:05 <MrBougo> nope, i dont have any accont
11:05 <wrtlprnft> browser?
11:05 <wrtlprnft> tried reloading?
11:06 <MrBougo> yep
11:06 <MrBougo> oh, i didnt cache-reload
11:06 <MrBougo> cache reload doesnt work
11:06 <wrtlprnft> argh, i see
11:06 <MrBougo> maybe it's the original design
11:06 <MrBougo> but it used to look better :p
11:06 <wrtlprnft> the default skin is the wrong one
11:06 <wrtlprnft> guru3: can you change the default skin for the wiki to monobook?
11:10 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: if you can't live with it for now, create an account and set your skin to monobook in the preferences
11:10 <MrBougo> do i need the mingw compiler?
11:10 <MrBougo> np wrtlprnft, i've seen worse sites
11:10 <MrBougo> oh wait, i already have mingw
11:12 <MrBougo> Download Size:	10 KB - 398.5 MB*
11:12 <MrBougo> *Download size depends on selected download components.
11:12 <MrBougo> haha, microsoft roxx my soxx
11:12 <philippeqc> MrBougo: there is also the code::base compiler
11:12 <MrBougo> oh my god, thete are 3 "components"
11:12 <philippeqc> i really dont know which one will work best
11:12 <MrBougo> 1.3, 1.4, 1.3 megs
11:12 <MrBougo> where does microsoft see 10k?
11:13 <MrBougo> philippeqc: oh, i dont need code::base?
11:13 <philippeqc> but you will need the following libraries too sdl, boost, libxml,
11:13 <MrBougo> i have mingw and some other proggy
11:13 <philippeqc> i think its either code::base either mingw. I really dont know
11:13 <MrBougo> wait, i'm starting my VM
11:13 <MrBougo> on code::base download, you can download code::base + mingw
11:14 <wrtlprnft> the libraries are on svn, winlibs or something
11:14 <MrBougo> yep
11:14 <MrBougo> Don't worry the DirectX headers are included in the winlibs sources provided by ArmagetronAd
11:15 <MrBougo> err do i need visual c++?
11:15 <MrBougo> do i need so many compilers? :p
11:15 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: 
11:15 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/gGame.cpp: In function 'void oldFortressAutomaticAssignment(zZone*, zMonitorPtr)':
11:15 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/gGame.cpp:4183: warning: unused variable 'otherTeam'
11:15 <MrBougo> oh ok, i have mysis + mingw
11:16 <MrBougo> i give it up for now
11:16 <MrBougo> i gtg...
11:16 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: it is used only by code commented away
11:17 <philippeqc> that part need surely to be re-written
11:17 <MrBougo> bye
11:17 <philippeqc> ok cya
11:17 <wrtlprnft> cya
11:17 <MrBougo> phew, building is WAY easier on linux, isnt it? :p
11:17 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: just noticed it
11:17 <wrtlprnft> ./bootstrap.sh && ./configure && make run
11:17 <MrBougo> windoz + opensource + compile = argh
11:17 <philippeqc> all the code trying to act like v1 is in an very experimental state
11:17 <wrtlprnft> that's all if you're lucky
11:17 <MrBougo> now i'm out
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11:37 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7294 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): zShapeCircle now have a radius.
11:38 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: fixed
11:38 <wrtlprnft> sec, still testing my own stuff
11:38 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml)
11:38 <philippeqc> np
11:39 <wrtlprnft> lol!
11:39 <philippeqc> ?
11:39 <wrtlprnft> i've got explosions on the HUD map :D
11:39 <philippeqc> lol, neat
11:45 <wrtlprnft> what's the DATA preprocessor symbol?
11:46 <philippeqc> sorry, I dont know.
11:46 <wrtlprnft> #ifdef DADA REAL r = scale_->GetFloat();
11:46 <wrtlprnft> #else REAL r = scale_.Evaluate(lasttime_ - referencetime_);
11:46 <wrtlprnft> #endif
11:46 <wrtlprnft> you're using it in your code…
11:47 <philippeqc> o, DADA, not DATA!
11:47 <wrtlprnft> ack, whatever
11:47 <philippeqc> it is because I havent decided what kind of object I will use for the "animation"
11:48 <philippeqc> when DADA isnt defined, then it use tFunction
11:48 <philippeqc> that works atm
11:48 <philippeqc> I should figure out if I will use tValue, vValue or ruby scripting.
11:49 <philippeqc> so I DADA'ed out that code
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h: In constructor 'zValidator::zValidator(Triad, Triad)':
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h:79: warning: 'zValidator::marked' will be initialized after
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h:74: warning:   'zSelectorPtrs zValidator::selectors'
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp:33: warning:   when initialized here
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h: In copy constructor 'zValidator::zValidator(const zValidator&)':
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h:79: warning: 'zValidator::marked' will be initialized after
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.h:74: warning:   'zSelectorPtrs zValidator::selectors'
11:51 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp:37: warning:   when initialized here
11:52 <wrtlprnft> more fun x_X
11:52 <wrtlprnft> need to change the order there. It's a stupid warning, though
11:52 <philippeqc> trying to make the server run:
11:52 <philippeqc> Internal Error: Internal error in static void nConfItemVersionWatcher::AdaptVersion(nVersion&) in ../../src/network/nConfig.cpp:502 :
11:52 <philippeqc>         Assertion version.Merge( version, run->version_ ) failed
11:53 <DrJoeTron> Man my router hates the DS internet browser
11:53 <DrJoeTron> i cant connect to anything half of the time
11:56 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7295 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/zone/zValidator.cpp: Fixed order of initialisation
12:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/polyhudmapexplosions.png
12:02 <philippeqc> WOW! and I noticed that you are drawing the polygonal shape too!
12:02 <wrtlprnft> :D
12:03 <philippeqc> for the circle shape, I should give you a getRadius method.
12:03 <wrtlprnft> just needs some cleaning up before committing
12:03 <philippeqc> I added the radius. so now its radius*scale
12:03 <wrtlprnft> the function that draws it is a virtual member of zShape
12:03 <wrtlprnft> so it has access to everything
12:04 <philippeqc> ok
12:04 <wrtlprnft> in fact it currently is a very crude copy of the normal draw method that's stripped of everything that has to do with 3D
12:05 <philippeqc> neat!
12:07 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7296 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/ (gParser.cpp zone/zValidator.cpp):
12:07 <armabot> armagetronad: The dedicated server doesnt kick itself out for being of an early version.
12:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Typo corrected on constructor
12:07 <philippeqc> the network test will have to wait. Tried it on local game, and none of the shape are shown.
12:07 <wrtlprnft> :(
12:08 <philippeqc> very strange indeed
12:10 <wrtlprnft> those trigger zones on that last map you made still don't rotate btw
12:10 <wrtlprnft> nvm, they do
12:12 <philippeqc> I'll give them a base speed
12:12 <wrtlprnft> bbl
12:13 <philippeqc> me too
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13:41 <MrBougo> helol
13:43 <P4> hi MrBougo
13:43 <MrBougo> hi there
13:43 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: can i use mysis as IDE to compile arma for windows?
13:43 <MrBougo> it uses mingw
13:44 <MrBougo> it should be ok, right?
13:44 <P4> i think ye
13:44 <MrBougo> okay then
13:44 <P4> you could use pure mingw u think :}
13:44 <P4> but im not sure }
13:47 <MrBougo> i dont think so
13:47 <MrBougo> mysys provides some script support
13:47 <P4> ph
13:47 <P4> oh
13:48 <MrBougo> Applications written using platform-independent libraries, such as SDL, wxWidgets, Qt, or GTK+ will usually compile as easily in MinGW as they would in Cygwin.
13:48 <MrBougo> oh that wasnt important
13:48 <MrBougo> bah, i'm gonna stop checking if it should work and testing if it actually does
13:48 <MrBougo> what's the arma svn? :p
13:49 <P4> #svn
13:49 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
13:49 <MrBougo> ty :p
13:49 <MrBougo> oh it's http
13:49 <MrBougo> loading...
13:49 <MrBougo> down
13:49 <MrBougo> and it works without the port
13:49 <P4> you can use s-f's svn browser
13:52 <MrBougo> bah
13:52 <MrBougo> how can i download a whole dir with sf"s browser
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13:52 <MrBougo> damn windows "terminal"
13:52 <MrBougo> ls doesnt work
13:52 <MrBougo> xD
13:54 <MrBougo> what files do i need? :p
13:54 <P4> what you want to do MrBougo?
13:54 <MrBougo> compile it
13:54 <P4> whole repos is damn huge
13:54 <P4> get the trunk dir
13:54 <MrBougo> i know :(
13:55 <MrBougo> armagetronad\armagetronad\trunk\ ?
13:55 <MrBougo> okay
14:00 <MrBougo> oh shit
14:00 <MrBougo> i typed co instead of ls
14:00 <MrBougo> now i understand why it was slow
14:01 <P4> MrBougo: if you use windows, you could use tartoiseSVN
14:01 <MrBougo> i use tigris svn
14:02 <MrBougo> brb :)
14:02  * MrBougo is away: bbiab
14:02 <MrBougo> damn away message
14:02 <MrBougo> damn auto-back when message sent
14:02  * MrBougo is away: bbiab
14:06 <MrBougo> i give up
14:06 <MrBougo> too much files, it's gonna waste my quota
14:07 <wrtlprnft> quota?
14:07 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7297 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (16 files in 4 dirs):
14:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Changed the rendering of game objects in the HUD map. eGameObject now has a virtual member Render2D that is called for every game object when a map is rendered.
14:07 <armabot> armagetronad: This has the effect of rendering zones again (even polygonal ones), and while I was at it I implemented rendering of explosions, too.
14:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Some 2D render functions, especially those for zShape are still a bit hacky, mostly the ones of zShape's children. I'm waiting for someone who knows what he's doing (hi there philippeqc!) to clean it up a bit.
14:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Rebeautified.
14:08 <MrBougo> yep
14:08 <MrBougo> you'd understand if you lived in belgium
14:08 <MrBougo> we have a damn isp
14:08 <MrBougo> a only damn isp, the others are pure shit because the master-isp has the monopoly
14:09 <MrBougo> and that damn isp wont let me download+upload more than 10 gigs /month
14:09 <MrBougo> i think i've already told you that
14:09 <wrtlprnft> when you said quota I was thinking about disk quotas
14:09 <wrtlprnft> which would be a bit silly on your own machine
14:10 <MrBougo> haha indeed
14:10 <MrBougo> oh yep, it could have been that...
14:10 <MrBougo> my message looked silly indeed
14:10 <MrBougo> bah you always have a disk quota anyway
14:11 <MrBougo> except on yahoo mail
14:11 <MrBougo> but yahoo mail sucks, with or without unlimited storage
14:11  * wrtlprnft can put an unlimited amount of data into his write only storage
14:11 <wrtlprnft> a.k.a. /dev/null
14:12 <MrBougo> can you retrieve it?
14:12 <wrtlprnft> no, that's why it's write only
14:12 <MrBougo> oh
14:12 <MrBougo> i didnt see that
14:12 <MrBougo> silly question
14:12 <MrBougo> can't you read null?
14:12 <MrBougo> i mean read nothing
14:12 <MrBougo> instead of reading ""
14:13 <wrtlprnft> if you attempt to read from /dev/null you get an EOF is all
14:13 <MrBougo> thought so
14:13 <MrBougo> so it isnt write-only
14:14 <MrBougo> or it's like a dark hole
14:14 <MrBougo> it sucks up everything, and you know it's there because there's nothing
14:14 <MrBougo> because you see nothing*
14:15 <MrBougo> "black hole in my filesystem"
14:15 <MrBougo> nice title
14:23 <wrtlprnft> actually
14:23 <wrtlprnft> everything you send to /dev/null gets converted to zeroes and fed into /dev/zero
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14:52 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: all the data sent to /dev/null is sorted. the 1's goes to /dev/true, the 0's to /dev/zero
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14:55 <wrtlprnft> cannot open `/dev/true' for reading: No such file or directory
14:56  * wrtlprnft sends a couple of 1s to /dev/null
14:57 <wrtlprnft> maybe all data sent to /dev/null is XOR'd with random bits and then sent to /dev/urandom?
14:57 <philippeqc> yeah, thats easy to do, you just grab data from urandom for the XOR
15:00 <MrBougo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/null
15:00 <MrBougo> In Unix programmer jargon, it may also be called the bit bucket or black hole.
15:01 <MrBougo> haha! i was right xD
15:02 <MrBougo> byue
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15:44 <Ady-Lucifer> #tea
15:44 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: No online players.
15:44 <Ady-Lucifer> #serverinfo elimin
15:44 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
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15:51 <MrBougo> re
15:57 <wrtlprnft> wb
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16:04 <MrBougo> wb p4
16:04 <P4> hi MrBougo
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16:15 <kidanger> #lastseen QUARG
16:15 <armabot> kidanger: -=}ID< QUARG has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber Test< 4 minutes ago.
16:15 <kidanger> #lastseen ID
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16:24 <kidanger> P4: thank
16:24 <kidanger> But I can't go in
16:26 <MrBougo> ummm
16:26 <MrBougo> how can i disable the openssh server?
16:30 <wrtlprnft> ?
16:36 <MrBougo> nevermind, found it
16:36 <MrBougo> have to create a /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run file
16:37 <MrBougo> hehe
16:37 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: how do you create an empty file?
16:37 <MrBougo> is touch ok?
16:38 <MrBougo> oh jesus, makes me think... be sure that the focus is on the terminal when you type "man touch", and not on google
16:38 <MrBougo> i'll be careful
16:39 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7298 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/zone/ (zShape.cpp zShape.hpp zZone.cpp): Zones are visible on network play
16:40 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: Now it is visible, but the zones are not "animated" at all, they keep on their original behavior. That is a prob that might require some heavy thinking
16:41 <MrBougo> lets think heavily
16:41 <philippeqc> lets go for a walk instead
16:41 <P4> #listhandlers
16:41 <armabot> P4: commitnotify, armabotupdater, aauptest, wikiupdater, test, aabetaupdate, wormuxnotify
16:42 <MrBougo> lets go for a walk in wormnuxnotify
16:42 <MrBougo> #help listhandlers
16:42 <armabot> MrBougo: (listhandlers ) -- Lists current registered handlers
16:42 <MrBougo> thank you for your help, armabot
16:42 <P4> :|
16:42 <P4> sorry guys :P
16:43 <MrBougo> huh.
16:43 <MrBougo> why sry?
16:43 <philippeqc> anyway, the server name is "Bachus quench my thirst!", you need to compile the latest trunk for it
16:43 <philippeqc> cya in a while
16:43 <wrtlprnft> will try it
16:43 <philippeqc> ok
16:43 <wrtlprnft> thanks for sort of fixing the zones
16:43 <MrBougo> cant you compile it for me? :3
16:44 <philippeqc> dont have windows here
16:44 <wrtlprnft> if i could compile it for you i'd be able to tell you how to do it
16:44 <MrBougo> lolz
16:44 <MrBougo> i dont wanna download all the trunk
16:44 <MrBougo> its huge
16:44 <MrBougo> too huge for me
16:44 <wrtlprnft> ?
16:45 <wrtlprnft> it's not that big
16:45 <wrtlprnft> less than 100MB
16:45 <P4> it's onlyt trunk right? what about all arma repos?
16:45 <P4> is it more than 500MB?
16:45 <wrtlprnft> dunno how svn handles that
16:46 <wrtlprnft> we have tags and branches that share a lot of files without any modifications, dunno if it would download it multiple times
16:46 <P4> oh
16:46 <wrtlprnft> but if you count all old revisions it's probably huge
16:46 <P4> #svn
16:46 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
16:47 <P4> what if id like to co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad ?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> i'll be back tomorrow to ask how it went
16:48 <wrtlprnft> but you still wouldn't have the old revisions :)
16:49 <P4> :P
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16:51 <MrBougo> why dont you put them in tarballs?
16:52 <MrBougo> i'd be less weighty
16:53 <wrtlprnft> ?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> svn stores old revisions as differences to new ones, that's way more efficient
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18:41 <Lucifer_arma> er, nobody ever checks out the entire repository, that would be dumb
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> and it's pretty large anyway
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> to answer the question, wrtlprnft (hi there!) , yes, svn would redownload files that are the same between tags and branches
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> and store them separately on-disk
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> only ever checkout the directory(s) you want to work with
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18:42 <Lucifer_arma> unless you've got 700MB or whatever laying around that you want to fill up with crap you'll never use anyway ;)
18:46 <wrtlprnft> I never intended to check out everything :)
18:47 <wrtlprnft> one trunk checkout with a server and client build using DEBUGLEVEL=3 takes up 200MB…
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> really?  no wonder the buildbot keeps running me out of disk space :/
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> those comments were directed at whoever was wanting to checkout the whole thing, whether he's still here or not :)
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19:31 <MrBougo> hiho
19:31 <MrBougo> nadal won
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19:50 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: just tried to join plantpeanuts.co.uk:4537 with the latest trunk, it just disconnects me again
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20:01 <Vanhayes> #armaserver
20:01 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: disabled
20:01 <wrtlprnft> I'd better write a replacement for that script.
20:02 <Lucifer_arma> I want to rewrite the master server in python now :)
20:03 <P4> python looks like it rox :}
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> it'll rock your cock, man
20:03 <wrtlprnft> why that?
20:03 <wrtlprnft> the current one appears to work fine
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> because python has so many parts of the standard library that would make extending it easier, like giving it a web interface, an rss feed, etc.
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> you and tank and the armaspy guy have all written extra stuff to do things you wanted to do that I think the master server should support directly :/
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> and it would be fun :)
20:05 <wrtlprnft> actually it's easier for me to do this way, as i'm not very fluent in python
20:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, if the master server gets a scripting api, then the idea of porting it to python becomes useless
20:06 <philippeqc> back
20:06 <Lucifer_arma> but I definitely think I've recently gotten a good enough command of socket programming in python that if I had a spec for the protocol the master server uses, I could easily re-implement it
20:07 <wrtlprnft> you could try to decode guru3's php script
20:07 <wrtlprnft> or mess with arma's source code
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> probably arma's source code will have a better explanation just because the packets I'd need to decode will be defined as structs or classes
20:08 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: ok, I will have to look again at the "old" code. it is not easy to converge a single codebase to support 2 different behavior"
20:09 <wrtlprnft> :(
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> do a "if <this behavior is wanted> { doit() } else { dothisinstead() }; "?  :)
20:09 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: made my map, and it works fine in local mode.
20:09 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Beni, Bob, G5, Gonzap, K-Yo, Monkey, Showerguy
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> fine-ally!  ;)
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I"ll have to update and rebuild to help test it?
20:10 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: its more of a "get some input fromthe network and guess if you can simply read and use it or if you have to map it to the new structure.
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm hungry
20:10 <philippeqc> throw in a lots of code changes to fix bugs spread around, and then you soon only have 1 of either that works.
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah, so the factor that defines which behavior to use isn't so simple to wrap ;)
20:11 <philippeqc> not really. there is the whole "you might connect to a recent server that acts like an old one to support old clients"
20:12 <philippeqc> there are really 3 tasks to be done. new client to new server, new client to old server, new server to old client.
20:12 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: when you try it, use this map:
20:12 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml)
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> you know philippe, if you just need a small space to put files in for web usage, I can give it to you so you don't have to use geoshitties
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20:13 <philippeqc> its relatively easy, and I dont need to recall any new password
20:13 <Lucifer_arma> give you svn to manage it
20:13 <philippeqc> seems i had this account since like 1999
20:15 <philippeqc> gonna go for tonight. Cya!
20:16 <wrtlprnft> #alias add armaservers fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/armaservers.php
20:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
20:16 <wrtlprnft> #rss remove armaservers
20:16 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: you need to conquer the "fortress" to slow the rotator
20:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:16 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
20:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 31 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (13/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Fortress Café (9/32), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (7/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber Test< (7/12), The Tavern (7/16), Sumo Bar (Teams) (6/16), Norm's Place (6/12), SPACEZONE III (1 more message)
20:16 <philippeqc> you need to get to the winzone in it to win
20:16 <philippeqc> no collapse of the fort
20:16 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: Vanhayes 
20:16 <philippeqc> and you never know if you have to attack your side or the other (random start spawn, need to be fixed)
20:17 <philippeqc> ...to be fixed to use information from the map.
20:17 <philippeqc> hope you enjoy!
20:17 <philippeqc> cya
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20:17 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft
20:17 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
20:17 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 2 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (15/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Fortress Café (9/32), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (8/12), Norm's Place (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber Test< (6/12), SPACEZONE III (6/12), Sumo Bar (Teams) (6/16), {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (5/16), Ed's TST (2 more messages)
20:17 <wrtlprnft> #more
20:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Server (5/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (5/6), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - N.A. Division Arma Clan :. (5/16), The Tavern (5/16), G-Land (4/8), SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (3/8), |FA| Clan Server 2 - Mix and Match!(oa) (3/16), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (2/6), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (2/12), Tigers Network Classic Play (2/16), Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (1/16), Chico's Brake (1 more message)
20:18 <Vanhayes> ah, nice, even shows your servers now
20:18 <wrtlprnft> didn't it always do that?
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20:19 <Vanhayes> nah, it used to not show fortress cafe
20:20 <Vanhayes> thats why some made #tea, instead of having to check #serverinfo cafe all the time
20:20 <Vanhayes> someone*
20:20 <wrtlprnft> there's an alias for about every important server now…
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> #hell
20:21 <Lucifer_arma> is not!  :P
20:21 <wrtlprnft> there's an alias for ___about___ every important server now…
20:21 <Vanhayes> ya, I guess people find it too hard to type #serverinfo
20:21 <wrtlprnft> actually
20:21 <wrtlprnft> there's an alias for ___about___ every ***important*** server now…
20:21 <Vanhayes> heh
20:22 <wrtlprnft> even better:
20:22 <wrtlprnft> there's an alias for ___about___ every ***important*** ///server/// now…
20:22 <Lucifer_arma> #serverinfo hell
20:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Swamplords in Hell: No online players.
20:23  * Lucifer_arma asks himself "Why the hell not?"
20:23 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add hell "serverinfo hell"
20:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
20:23 <Lucifer_arma> #hell
20:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Swamplords in Hell: No online players.
20:24 <Lucifer_arma> there we go, now the important servers have aliases
20:24 <Vanhayes> #list alias
20:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: roulette, add, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hell, hello, hey, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, killsomeone, laddle10, (2 more messages)
20:24 <Vanhayes> #more
20:24 <Vanhayes> #more
20:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, m, man, mcalc, mfaq, monologue, morning, move, nano, night, null, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, peek, pingme, piong, poing, powiedz, praise, pwn, q, realchatlogs, remove, res, resources, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, rules, r‭oulette, serverdetails, serverinfo, slap, speed, stfu, stone, sty, svn, t, tea, team, tst4, tstservers, tyskie, (1 more message)
20:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: uname, unlock, ur, w, weather, where, whereis4p, whereisp4, where are the noobs ?, whoareyou, whoisp4, wikipedia, wild, wp, ww, ¡¡¡, and ‭
20:24 <Vanhayes> wow
20:25 <Vanhayes> #where are the noobs?
20:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: the biggest noob, Vanhayes, is right in this channel!
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> #where are the pros?
20:25 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: the biggest noob, Lucifer_arma, is right in this channel!
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> cheap alias
20:26 <Vanhayes> #stfu
20:26 <armabot> ...
20:26 <Vanhayes> right
20:27 <Vanhayes> #whereis4p
20:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: ©T¦¶3 has last been seen on Fortress Café 35 minutes ago.
20:28 <P4> .whoisp4
20:28 <tronner> ©S¦µ4
20:28 <P4> :P
20:28 <P4> #lastseen ©S¦µ4
20:28 <armabot> P4: ©S¦µ4 has last been seen on Fortress Café 31 minutes ago.
20:28 <P4> lol :P
20:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias add spam! #echo .spam
20:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:29 <P4> lol
20:29 <wrtlprnft> .alias add spam! echo #spam
20:29 <P4> not allowed :}
20:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias add spam! echo .spam
20:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:29 <wrtlprnft> .spam!
20:29 <P4> :P
20:29 <wrtlprnft> #spam!
20:29 <armabot> .spam
20:30 <wrtlprnft> meh
20:30 <wrtlprnft> #alias remove spam!
20:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:30 <wrtlprnft> .alias remove spam!
20:30 <P4> the channel is lobotomized :} one bot is enaugh forspam :P
20:30 <P4> try it in #ct :}
20:31 <wrtlprnft> too lazy.
20:31 <P4> :}
20:31 <Lucifer_arma> er, probably don't want to join #ct
20:32 -!- digitx_ [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #armagetron
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20:32 <Vanhayes> .list alias
20:32 <Vanhayes> .ping
20:32 <Vanhayes> tronner, ping
20:33 <Vanhayes> armabot: ping
20:33 <armabot> pong
20:34 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: ping
20:34 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma:  roulette, add, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hell, hello, hey, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, killsomeone, laddle10, (2 more mess
20:34 <Vanhayes> ages)
20:35 <wrtlprnft> ages)
20:35 <Vanhayes> heh
20:37 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma: how is eugenics coming?
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's coming, I'm working on the waiting room still
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> hammering out the conversation that gets the choices of civilizations to the client so one can be picked
20:37 <Lucifer_arma> spending the weekend watching my wife fight with her evil stepmother, though ;)
20:41 <P4> #lastseen nerd
20:41 <armabot> P4: ooNErD has last been seen on |FA| Clan Server – Shrinkin-Angels 0 days 8 hours 5 minutes ago.
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: as the topic here reflects, eugenics discussion is in its own channel now, in case you're wondering why we're not talking about it here anymore
20:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'll remove that from the topic in a few days and then it'll be a complete mystery
20:46 <Vanhayes> ah, didnt notice that
20:46  * Vanhayes never looks at the topic
21:17 <digitx> #digitx
21:17 <armabot> digitx: vnc op op me ja ja me vnc me vnc op ja vnc me me op op ja op ja vnc me op op ja vnc vnc vnc ja op
21:17 <digitx> XD
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21:19 <Durka> #hello
21:19 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: How do you play religious roulette? || A: You stand around in a circle and blaspheme and see who gets || struck by lightning first.
21:19 <wrtlprnft> hi
21:20 <wrtlprnft> tst in 70 mins?
21:20 <P4> yes
21:20 <P4> pity i haven't plaid with nerd ever :P
21:21 <wrtlprnft> #gmtime
21:21 <P4> #time
21:21 <armabot> P4: 09:21 PM, June 10, 2007
21:21 <wrtlprnft> #list time
21:21 <armabot> wrtlprnft: at, ctime, elapsed, seconds, time, and until
21:22 <wrtlprnft> #ctime
21:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sun Jun 10 21:21:40 2007
21:22 <P4> it's gmt+2, right?
21:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:22 <P4> ok
21:22 <wrtlprnft> but i added a new command for GMT time :(
21:22 <P4> #help ctime
21:22 <armabot> P4: (ctime [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the ctime for <seconds since epoch>, or the current ctime if no <seconds since epoch> is given.
21:22 <wrtlprnft> #gmtime
21:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 07:22 PM, June 10, 2007
21:22 <wrtlprnft> there we go
21:23 <Durka> yes wrtl
21:23 <P4> wrtlprnft: how did you add this plugin? did you write it yourself?
21:23 <P4> i don't have gmtime in Time plugin :P
21:24 <Durka> hi P4
21:24 <P4> hi Durka :P
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21:27 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
21:27 <Durka> #help lastseen
21:27 <armabot> Durka: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
21:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 9 secs
21:27 <wrtlprnft> grr
21:27 <wrtlprnft> first time ever IRSSI crashed on me
21:27 <P4> what was the reason? :}
21:27 <wrtlprnft> dunno
21:28 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the time plugin that has gmtime is a simple copy of the original one with a new command :)
21:28 <P4> i see :}
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21:33 <Durka> hi GodTodd :)
21:33 <wrtlprnft> 21:33 [FreeNode] -tronner(n=CT@edj192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)- Welcome wrtlprnft , Type .list .help or .? to get some interactive help.
21:33 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
21:33 <GodTodd> yo Durka
21:33 <wrtlprnft> wow, i can't even join a channel without getting spammed by notices
21:34 <Durka> :O
21:34 <Durka> #m wrtlprnft hi
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21:34 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
21:34 <digitx> :D
21:36 <wrtlprnft> wow, this is great. I click on a link in a PDF that's embedded in opera and it opens it in firefox.
21:37 <GodTodd> cuz adobe knows ff is better? ;)
21:39 <digitx> hehe
21:39 <wrtlprnft> because the thing is stupid.
21:39 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ echo $BROWSER                                                 ~/armagetronad3/armagetronad3/build2
21:39 <wrtlprnft> opera -newpage
21:39 <wrtlprnft> why can't it use that?
21:40 <GodTodd> cuz then it wouldn't rule like it does when it uses ff :P
21:41 <wrtlprnft> it just annoys me
21:41 <wrtlprnft> F6 CTRL-C ALT-F4 CTRL-N CTRL-V <enter>
21:42 <wrtlprnft> + waiting for firefox to start up, which takes longer than the 6 key presses
21:51 <Durka> lol
22:02 <wrtlprnft> #tst5
22:02 <armabot> Sumo Bar (Teams): Players (14/16): -*$P*-<y<lo, AnthraX, Anun, Ass, Dr.Iglo, GINGER, hole, L2K|emphasis, SageLord, SP|ADY, Tetris, van Nelle, wT:r|Canteloupe, ~|DS|~ Plage || There doesn't seem to be a server matching “z-man” at the moment, sorry. || Ed's TST Server: Players (4/16): -|ct|-ed-, Tupå¢ ~*SP*~PsY, °¯fLasH, °¯Plato
22:02 <wrtlprnft> err
22:02 <wrtlprnft> where's z-man's server?
22:07 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
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22:25 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen rambo
22:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: rambo has last been seen on  ~*SpeederS*~ Server 0 days 1 hours 11 minutes ago.
22:38 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["or did he?"]
22:54 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): Its A Me Mario, J SUIG, Monkey, SageLord, Sithy, SpinAce, Zop, [nrx]
23:15 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7299 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_dedicated.cfg: Forgot to add ALLOW_TEAMCHANGE to settings_custom.cfg.
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7300 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/config/settings_dedicated.cfg: Stupid typo fix. And the setting is called ALLOW_TEAM_CHANGE
23:18 <wrtlprnft> 16 spam blocks on the wiki today!
23:29 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7301 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: Yet another fix: The "you're not allowed to change your team" was sent to everyone if a player tried to create a new team, not just to the player.

Log from 2007-06-11:
--- Day changed Mon Jun 11 2007
00:05 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4
00:06 -!- cusco [n=tretas@cpc2-swin6-0-0-cust997.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #armagetron
00:06 <cusco> what is eugenics?
00:12 <P4> cusco: it's "well born" :}
00:31 <digitx> .
00:33 -!- kidd [n=kidd@95.Red-88-6-190.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["leaving"]
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> cusco: it's our evil plan for world domination
00:50 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["Távozom"]
00:51 <P4> cusco: aka Freemasonry :PP
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> cusco: why did someone turn you into a llama?
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01:59 <mkzelda> ah great gimp crashes when i edit a picture im working on
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02:33 <digitx> bye all... good night.
02:33 <digitx> .
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03:42 <Self_Destructo> anyone know javascript? query me if you do... i have a job that will basically require knowing how to use javascript over framed pages
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04:32 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-06/ff_mindgames
05:10 <DrJoeTron> wow no way
05:11 <DrJoeTron> oh hey Your_mom_arma i bought the DS browser
05:11 <DrJoeTron> i wanted to get the ram cartridge
05:12 <Your_mom_arma> what else can you do with the ram cartridge?
05:13 <DrJoeTron> nothing yet
05:14 <DrJoeTron> early adapter i guess
05:14 <DrJoeTron> like the people who bought the expansion pack for the N64
05:14 <DrJoeTron> nothing REALLY came out for it untill like a a year ago
05:14 <Your_mom_arma> didn't it come bundled with a game
05:15 <DrJoeTron> nope
05:15 <DrJoeTron> wait
05:15 <DrJoeTron> YES
05:15 <DrJoeTron> it did
05:15 <DrJoeTron> Donkey Kong 64
05:15 <DrJoeTron> but i didnt want it
05:16 <Your_mom_arma> heh, I think I almost finished that game. It got boring pretty quickly
05:16 <DrJoeTron> hah
05:17 <DrJoeTron> i bought it and got majoras mask
05:17 <Your_mom_arma> now I don't know anyone who bothered to get very far in majoras mask
05:18 <DrJoeTron> hey you know what?
05:18 <DrJoeTron> you never will
05:18 <DrJoeTron> today won't be that day that you find someone who did
05:19 <DrJoeTron> got the 3rd main mask
05:19 <DrJoeTron> and quit
05:19 <Your_mom_arma> yeah same
05:19 <DrJoeTron> but yeah, the browser
05:19 <DrJoeTron> i dont know what to tell ya
05:19 <Your_mom_arma> that bad?
05:19 <DrJoeTron> its rather neat, it beats taking a laptop
05:20 <DrJoeTron> sorta,
05:20 <DrJoeTron> you can read and send email
05:20 <DrJoeTron> and google maps works
05:20 <Your_mom_arma> tabbed browsing?
05:20 <DrJoeTron> and messageboards work good
05:20 <DrJoeTron> nah
05:20 <DrJoeTron> welll
05:20 <DrJoeTron> havent chacked
05:20 <DrJoeTron> thats the problem
05:21 <DrJoeTron> my router hates my ds with a passion
05:21 <DrJoeTron> and refuses to load the sites
05:21 <DrJoeTron> but thats fine, since i have a pc that does it better
05:22 <DrJoeTron> also all cache is cleared as soon as you shut the ds off
06:04 <Your_mom_arma> wow, I just respawned you, now your stopping me from respawning my team... Bad Bushido
06:16 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma I'm conviced
06:16 <DrJoeTron> we should start making people pay us to be on their team
06:17 <Your_mom_arma> haha
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06:36 <DrJoeTron> ta
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07:26 <MrBougo> hihoo spdey
07:26 <spidey> 'ello
08:08 <MrBougo> brb
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08:30 <Durka> wrtlprnft :)
08:31 <wrtlprnft> Durka :)
08:32  * Durka needs help really quick
08:32 <Durka> and you know everything :P
08:32 <wrtlprnft> err
08:32 <Durka> ok so
08:32 <wrtlprnft> well, what's your problem?
08:32 <Durka> http://www.xzlclan.com/the/website/stats/xzl_online.php
08:33 <Durka> prints to
08:33 <Durka> http://www.xzlclan.com/the/website/
08:33 <Durka> (click the thingee)
08:33 <Durka> but somehow
08:33 <Durka> the players.txt info got magnified o_O
08:33 <Durka> i didnt touch a size setting
08:33 <Durka> but the 'Rank, Player, Points' part didnt get magnified
08:34  * Durka is confuxed xD
08:36 <wrtlprnft> wow, you're just including the entire file with the html header and all that?
08:36 <wrtlprnft> and putting the entire thing in a <font size="2">…
08:37 <Durka> :D
08:37 <wrtlprnft> no wonder it's a mess
08:38 <Durka> the font size 2 part was a lame attempt at making it smaller =/
08:38 <Durka> lol
08:38 <mkzelda> ive decided the proper way to exit a server is to get kicked for spamming
08:39 <Durka> hmmm, still not working
08:39 <Durka> players list hasnt updated
08:39 <Durka> x(
08:39 <Durka> hehe, there xD
08:39 <Durka> lol wrtlprnft its bold
08:42 <mkzelda> if only xzl server were as cool as its graphics
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08:49 <wrtlprnft> great, now durka left
08:49 <wrtlprnft> #later tell durka try <div style="font-size:75%"> or something instead…
08:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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08:50 <Durka> computer froze =S
08:52 <Durka> wrtlprnft: now im not including the file at all :(
08:52 <Durka> still big o_O
08:52 <Durka> and i just erased what u sent me lol
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08:53 <Durka> hi kidd
08:53 <Durka> wrtlprnft: would you like the file?
08:54 <wrtlprnft> how would it help
08:55 <wrtlprnft> first of all, use htmlspecialchars to encode names
08:55 <Durka> how? (/me is a noob at dis)
08:56 <Durka> that was funny btw lol
08:56 <Durka> the style messed the table up lol
08:57 <wrtlprnft> instead of printing $theName, print htlmlspecialchars($theName)
08:57 <Durka> lol dook
08:57 <mkzelda> hehe
08:58 <mkzelda> when i joined people were trapping people in boxes that were 80% of the grid
08:58 <mkzelda> and then waiting for them to die
08:58 <Durka> lol
08:58 <Durka> i dont got no $theName =/
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08:58 <mkzelda> so i trapped people ouside of 95-98% of the grid
08:58 <Durka> lol
08:58 <mkzelda> whatever my trail would allow
08:58 <Durka> dook, wanna sumo?
08:58 <mkzelda> and then accused them of camping
08:59 <Durka> bugfarm?
08:59 <mkzelda> i would but i sumo'd for hours and im ready for bed
08:59 <Durka> lol
08:59 <mkzelda> i was hoping to get kicked but nobody ever kicks me on xzl
09:00 <Durka> anyways, wrtl, how did you say to make the text smaller
09:00 <Durka> i closed that window :(
09:00 <wrtlprnft> do you know CSS?
09:00 <mkzelda> content scrambling system
09:00 <mkzelda> Cansei de Ser Sexi
09:01 <mkzelda> Cascading Style Sheets
09:01 <wrtlprnft> the easiest way would be to modify the included script so the inner <table> has something like style="font-size:75%"
09:01 <mkzelda> centralized showing service
09:01 <Durka> #cyborg css
09:01 <wrtlprnft> #cyborg css
09:01 <Durka> lol
09:01 <armabot> Durka: C.S.S.: Cybernetic Synthetic Soldier
09:01 <Durka> xD
09:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: C.S.S.: Cybernetic Synthetic Soldier
09:02 <Durka> i know it
09:02 <Durka> is it my friend? no =/
09:02 <Durka> (not good with it)
09:02 <Durka> but sure, ill give it a go ;D
09:02 <mkzelda> just jack it from somewhere else
09:02 <mkzelda> but dont go somewhere where you cant leave until you're done jacking it
09:03 <mkzelda> comcast southeast sports
09:03 <mkzelda> charter sports southeast
09:04 <mkzelda> goodnight michelle
09:05 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/polyhudmapexplosions.png
09:05 <wrtlprnft> oops
09:05  * Durka waits
09:05 <Durka> lol
09:05 <Durka> o_O
09:05 <Durka> lol
09:05  * mkzelda thinks you prolly shouldnt have run into that
09:06 <mkzelda> next time, try turning
09:06 <Durka> lol
09:06 <mkzelda> in this instance, i think left, maybe
09:07 <mkzelda> You shouldnta done that, he's just a boy
09:09 <mkzelda> im disappointed, i just googled that phrase and nothing sling blade related came up, and actually only 1 site came up w/ the phrase
09:09 <mkzelda> http://www.geocities.com/mattrogershuskyhunk/matt02.html
09:09 <mkzelda> haha
09:09 <mkzelda> flowers are teh pwn
09:10 <Durka> wrtlprnft: :( I'm tired
09:10 <wrtlprnft> i already told you what to do
09:10 <mkzelda> do it for him
09:11 <wrtlprnft> on http://www.xzlclan.com/the/website/stats/xzl_online.php
09:11 <mkzelda> do it forum
09:11 <Durka> i closed that window i said :(
09:11 <wrtlprnft> whatever line in that script prints the following line:
09:11 <wrtlprnft>             <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1">
09:11 <wrtlprnft> change it to print
09:11 <wrtlprnft>             <table style="font-size:75%" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1">
09:12 <wrtlprnft> (that's the 2nd, nested table)
09:12 <wrtlprnft> line 12 in the HTML output
09:13 <Durka> ok
09:15 <Durka> >.<
09:15 <Durka> still messed up
09:16 <wrtlprnft> then it's something with the stylesheet of that page
09:16 <Durka> ok
09:16 <Durka> but do you have any idea why only half of it is getting magnigied
09:16 <wrtlprnft> need to go to school now, no time for debugging this mess
09:16 <Durka> bye :P
09:17 <wrtlprnft> the non-magnified stuff is in <th>s, the test is in <td>s
09:18 <Durka> ok
09:18 <Durka> ty
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10:08 <MrBougo> hi there
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11:08 <Durka> :P
11:08 <Durka> #hello
11:08 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: Why should you always serve a Southern Carolina football man || soup in a plate? || A: 'Cause if you give him a bowl, he'll throw it away.
11:09 <MrBougo> ima do some typosquattinghi there Durka
11:09 <MrBougo> i dont get it
11:09 <Durka> :O
11:09 <MrBougo> oh right, i forgot to press enter
11:10 <MrBougo> so i meant
11:10 <Durka> bougo, i got my casino installed :S
11:10 <MrBougo> ima do some typosquatting on #armagetorn
11:10 <Durka> its a bit bootleg
11:10 <MrBougo> Durka: ?
11:10 <MrBougo> what casino?
11:10 <Durka> my site
11:10 <Durka> :P
11:10 <MrBougo> uh
11:10 <MrBougo> a casino site?
11:13 <Durka> ya
11:13 <Durka> :P
11:14 <Durka> #m madmax|ptz I've got the casino up on my test site; it's kinda cool, so I'll transfer it over to my forums :P
11:14 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
11:14 <Durka> #last madmax|ptz
11:14 <armabot> Durka: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
11:14 <Durka> #last --from madmax|ptz
11:14 <armabot> Durka: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 16562 messages.
11:14 <Durka> damn
11:15 <Durka> #last --from madmax
11:15 <armabot> Durka: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 16566 messages.
11:15 <Durka> #m madmax|pt I've got the casino up on my test site; it's kinda cool, so I'll transfer it over to my forums :P
11:15 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
11:15 <Durka> #last --from madmax|pt
11:15 <armabot> Durka: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 16571 messages.
11:15 <Durka> >.>
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11:29 <MrBougo> rofl
11:29 -!- MrBougo is now known as madmax|ptz
11:30 <madmax|ptz> hehe
11:30 -!- madmax|ptz is now known as MrBougo
11:30 <MrBougo> that sucks
11:30 <MrBougo> #m madmax|ptz (from Durka) I've got the casino up on my test site; it's kinda cool, so I'll transfer it over to my forums :P
11:30 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
11:31 <MrBougo> dont steal privmsgs!
11:31 <Durka> lol
11:31 <MrBougo> easy to hack, heh
11:31 <MrBougo> i received it
11:31 <Durka> xD
11:31 <Durka> no
11:31 <Durka> u cant recieve private msgs
11:31 <MrBougo> i did
11:31 <Durka> on ppls accounts that are registered
11:31 <MrBougo> i /nick maxmad|ptz
11:31 <Durka> u need to verify
11:31 <Durka> watch
11:31 <MrBougo> and armabot queried me
11:31 -!- Durka is now known as Dorka
11:32 <Dorka> send a #m to durka
11:32 <MrBougo> #m durka hzjheaz
11:32 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
11:32 <Dorka> and try to recieve it
11:32 -!- MrBougo is now known as durka
11:32 <durka> bahbah
11:32 <durka> <armabot> Sent just now: <MrBougo> hzjheaz
11:32 -!- durka is now known as MrBougo
11:32 <Dorka> use Durka
11:32 <Dorka> not durka
11:32 <Dorka> :P
11:32 <MrBougo> that's just the same
11:32 <Dorka> i dont think it matters but try lol
11:32 <Dorka> #m Durka bougo sucks
11:32 <armabot> Dorka: The operation succeeded.
11:32 <Dorka> ok try
11:32 <MrBougo> #m Durka bjzeghrjzhgrehrezghazakkkzakzaka
11:32 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
11:32 -!- MrBougo is now known as Durka
11:32 <Durka> lz
11:32 <Durka> <armabot> Sent just now: <Dorka> bougo sucks
11:32 <Durka> <armabot> Sent just now: <MrBougo> bjzeghrjzhgrehrezghazakkkzakzaka
11:32 <Dorka> lol
11:32 <Dorka> o_O
11:33 -!- Durka is now known as MrBougo
11:33 <Dorka> #whoami
11:33 <armabot> Dorka: I don't recognize you.
11:33 <Dorka> ok
11:33 <Dorka> meh, thats why
11:33 <Dorka> #help whoami
11:33 <armabot> Dorka: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command.
11:33 -!- MrBougo is now known as MrBugo
11:33 <MrBugo> just try it, durka
11:33 <Dorka> #m MrBougo :P
11:33 <armabot> Dorka: The operation succeeded.
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11:34 <MrBougo> heehee
11:34 <MrBougo> pwnzd
11:34 <MrBougo_> wow
11:34 <MrBougo_> -.-
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11:34 <Durka> lol
11:34 <MrBougo> that hurt, didnt it
11:34 <MrBougo> xD
11:34 <MrBougo> * MrBougo has quit (Nick collision from services.)
11:34 <Durka> how'd j00 do dat?
11:34 <MrBougo> /msg nickserv recover MrBougo <pass>
11:35 <Durka> brb
11:35 <MrBougo> then ghost instead of recover, then nick back
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11:35 <MrBougo> #whoami
11:35 <armabot> MrBougo: I don't recognize you.
11:35 <MrBougo> bah
11:35 <MrBougo> #help
11:35 <armabot> MrBougo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
11:35 <MrBougo> #list
11:35 <armabot> MrBougo: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
11:35 <MrBougo> #list user
11:35 <armabot> MrBougo: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
11:36 <MrBougo> #whoami
11:36 <armabot> MrBougo: MrBougo
11:37 <MrBougo> #m durka i'm out, cya
11:37 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
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13:25 <eddiefantastic> who
13:26 <digitx> who
13:31 <P4> who
13:34 <digitx> who
13:34 <P4> maybe me? :P
13:34 <digitx> no
13:34 <digitx> who
13:34 <P4> dr.who? :P
13:34 <digitx> maybe me?
13:34 <digitx> who
13:34 <digitx> :D
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13:42 <P4> who won TST5?
13:43 <vinavil> who
13:43 <P4> http://durkadurkaland.com/tst5.php#brackets <=- not updated
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14:38 <eddiefantastic> who
14:40 <P4> .lastseen who
14:41 <tronner> P4: wholewheat has last been seen on G-Land 1 days 4 hours 56 minutes ago.
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15:18 <MrBougo> hi ther
15:18 <MrBougo> e
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15:39 <wrtlprnft> great. Now I'm going to lose the uptime of all my servers because of that stupid kernel security hole
15:40 <wrtlprnft>  15:42:19 up 160 days, 21:09,  7 users,  load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.94
15:44 <MrBougo> aw
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15:53 <MrBougo> back
15:53 <MrBougo> poor wrtlprnft
15:53 <MrBougo> i'm sorry for your uptime
15:56 <wrtlprnft> x_X
15:56 <wrtlprnft> #g 160 days in years
15:56 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:56 <wrtlprnft> ah right
15:56 <wrtlprnft> doesn't work anymore
15:57 <MrBougo> :((
15:57 <MrBougo> it's like...
15:57 <MrBougo> #calc 365/160
15:57 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
15:57 <MrBougo> heh
15:57 <MrBougo> #math calc 365/160
15:57 <armabot> MrBougo: 2.28125
15:57 <wrtlprnft> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=160+days+in+years&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
15:58 <MrBougo> arr
15:58 <MrBougo> #math calc 160/365
15:58 <armabot> MrBougo: 0.438356164384
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15:58 <wrtlprnft> I don't want to memorize http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=DaP&q=1+year+in+days&btnG=Search
15:58 <MrBougo> i cant format my old usb drive
15:58 <MrBougo> hehe
15:58 <MrBougo> me either
15:59 <MrBougo> i think the mbr is broken
15:59 <MrBougo> damn win xp cant format it, rofl
16:04 <wrtlprnft> mbr on an usb drive?
16:04 <MrBougo> err
16:04 <MrBougo> i mean partition table
16:04 <MrBougo> ^^'
16:05 <MrBougo> *dies*
16:05 <wrtlprnft> windows can't fix that?
16:05 <wrtlprnft> fdisk?
16:06 <MrBougo> sucky
16:06 <MrBougo> fdisk doesnt exist anymore on XP
16:06 <MrBougo> i wonder why
16:08 <MrBougo> r.i.p.
16:08 <MrBougo> it isnt detected anymore
16:08 <MrBougo> it was noname anyay
16:08 <MrBougo> 512 megs
16:08 <MrBougo> free
16:09 <MrBougo> yay now i can take it to pieces
16:09 <MrBougo> or whatever
16:09 <MrBougo> it has no screw
16:09 <MrBougo> what the hell
16:09 <MrBougo> now it is detected
16:10 <MrBougo> whats wrong with you, usb thingy
16:10 <MrBougo> zomg, usb zombie!
16:12 <MrBougo> writing part table to disk...
16:12 <MrBougo> #monologue
16:12 <armabot> MrBougo: Your current monologue is at least 17 lines long.
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16:21 <MrBougo> this usb flashdrive is amazingly boring
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16:22 <MrBougo> hi there Doc
16:22 <Crayze4Swayze> hey
16:22 <Crayze4Swayze> shit brb
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16:23 <MrBougo> lol DrJoeTron
16:23 <MrBougo> n=DrJoeTro
16:23 <MrBougo> n?
16:23 <MrBougo> n=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTron=DrJoeTro
16:23 <DrJoeTron> bless you
16:23 <MrBougo> thanks
16:32 <digitx> hi joe
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16:33 <DrJoeTron> hey
16:34 <eddiefantastic> hi
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16:36 <MrBougo> bye
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17:17 <Vanhayes> #tea
17:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
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17:43 <epsy> hay
17:46 <epsy> #hello
17:46 <armabot> Hello epsy :) Random Fortune: Han Solo: || Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting || crops, boy.
17:46 <epsy> #armaservers
17:46 <armabot> epsy: This data is 43 seconds old; SPACEZONE III (10/12), Sumo Bar (Teams) (10/16), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (9/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7/14), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - N.A. Division Arma Clan :. (7/16), Norm's Place (6/12), Super Duck Nano Fortress! (5/14), {Delicious Desserts} (1 more message)
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18:50 <epsy> man
18:50 <epsy> i just got such a team of noobs on keyhunt
18:51 <epsy> we got the 3 keys, amd the one who has the remaining key stay at top of the map ...
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19:33 <MrBougo> Let's try to fix my USB flash drive, part II
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19:42 <MrBougo> looks like these guys dont mind
19:50 <MrBougo> partitionmagic
19:59 <MrBougo> yayshit
19:59 <MrBougo> damn
20:00 <MrBougo> i hate typing a message, then forget to press enter, then type another one
20:08 <MrBougo> anyone here?
20:08 <epsy> salut MrBougo
20:09 <epsy> :P
20:09 <MrBougo> bah
20:09 <MrBougo> elp me hepsy
20:10 <epsy> 'bout ?
20:15 <MrBougo> usb flash drive
20:15 <MrBougo> it looks broken
20:15 <MrBougo> cant format
20:15 <MrBougo> tried cfdisk, fdisk, sfdisk, parted
20:15 <MrBougo> windows formating tool
20:15 <MrBougo> partitionmagix
20:16 <MrBougo> blaah
20:16 <MrBougo> cant fix
20:18 <MrBougo> if truecrypt works, i'll consider suicide
20:18 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): .dbd|Nairb, IL, joan
20:18 <MrBougo> and it doesnt seem to work
20:19 <epsy> hmm
20:19 <MrBougo> its broken
20:19 <MrBougo> definitely
20:19 <MrBougo> it was a noname
20:19 <MrBougo> poor quality
20:19 <MrBougo> nothing really important
20:19 <MrBougo> okay, it failed
20:19 <MrBougo> definitely broken
20:20 <MrBougo> je vais la démonter :DDD
20:20 <MrBougo> bye
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20:23 <epsy> hay Jokersedge
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20:23 <epsy> vinavil :DDDD
20:23 <vinavil> hello epsy
20:24 <epsy> hay rainie :)
20:26 <mkzelda> i sent that bitch a smiley face
20:26 <mkzelda> bitches love smiley faces
20:30 <epsy> mkzelda: who ?
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20:47 <vinavil> #gmtime
20:47 <armabot> vinavil: 06:47 PM, June 11, 2007
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20:52 <vinavil> #gmtime
20:52 <armabot> vinavil: 06:52 PM, June 11, 2007
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21:03 <Durka> madmax|pt: :P
21:04 <digitx> durka XD
21:05 <digitx> beep
21:05 <Durka> digi! xD
21:05 <digitx> #digi
21:05 <digitx> #digitx
21:05 <armabot> digitx: vnc op me op ja vnc vnc ja vnc me op vnc vnc op vnc op ja vnc me ja ja ja me me op me op op op ja
21:05 <digitx> XD
21:05 <Durka> lol
21:06 <epsy> #where are the noobs ?
21:06 <digitx> here
21:06 <digitx> okok
21:06 <digitx> :D
21:07 <Durka> lol
21:08 <digitx> ops
21:08 <digitx> -okok
21:08 <digitx> shit windows
21:08 <digitx> :D
21:09 <digitx> no lol durkaman
21:09 <digitx> :D
21:09 <epsy> #monologue
21:09 <armabot> epsy: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
21:09 <epsy> #m
21:09 <armabot> epsy: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
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21:12 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: \o
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21:12 <Durka> epsy: \o
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: WHAT?!?!
21:12 <epsy_> ??
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> he's just spamming
21:13 <epsy_> ??...
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> time to put him back on my ignore list
21:13 <Durka> \o = a guy waving
21:13 <Durka> :)
21:13 <epsy_> damn
21:13 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: :(
21:13 <epsy_> how i display the user list whith this
21:13 <Durka> click the arrow
21:13 <Durka> xD
21:13 <Durka> on the left where it says "armagetron"
21:14 <Durka> to the left of the blue and white buble
21:14 <epsy_> :o
21:14 <Durka> click the arrow :D
21:14 <mkzelda> pull your ethernet cable out, wipe it with a damp cloth and plug it back in
21:14 <epsy_> i was trying the one near the subjects :P
21:14 <epsy_> mkzelda: ctrl+atl+backspace works too
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21:17 <Durka> mkzelda: you like ctf?
21:17 <epsy> mkzelda: you like htf ?
21:17 <epsy> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
21:18 <Durka> -.-
21:18 <epsy> man
21:18 <epsy> why adium wont go to dock :F
21:21 <epsy> Durka: ping
21:21 <Durka> ?
21:21 <Durka> click and hold
21:21 <Durka> click keep in dock
21:22 <epsy> i mean, it wont minimize :F
21:23 <epsy> Durka: one file is waiting for you on msn btw
21:24 <epsy> LOL!
21:24 <Durka> resend
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21:35 <Durka> madmax|pt: you get my msg? :)
21:42 <Durka> meh
21:46 <epsy> lol
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21:48 <epsy> lol
21:55 <Durka> :(
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22:07 <epsy> moi c dont je suis sur... c aue je serais mort
22:07 <epsy> arr wrong windows
22:08 <epsy> need a way to not have to click inside a wiondow to focus it -.-
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22:26 <epsy> #armaservers
22:27 <epsy> #ping
22:27 <epsy> armabot: ping
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22:27 <madmax|pt> what msg Durka ?
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22:27 <epsy> hay G5_Ger and madmax|pt
22:27 <wrtlprnft> armabot's on holidays right now
22:27 <Durka> the casino xD
22:27 <madmax|pt> hello
22:27 <epsy> and Monkey :)
22:27 <G5_Ger> Hi
22:27 <Monkey> hi
22:27 <madmax|pt> blackjack?
22:27 <Durka> ya
22:27 <Durka> :P
22:27 <madmax|pt> eheh
22:27 <Durka> it's bootleg though
22:27 <epsy> wrtlprnft: why ?
22:28 <Durka> i dont think it works with the money system
22:28 <Monkey> is everyone on irc now    lol
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22:28 <Durka> and there's no 'hit me' option
22:28 <wrtlprnft> because I'm updating my kernel on that machine
22:28 <Durka> u can try it out though, hehe
22:28 <wrtlprnft> should be back any second
22:28 <Monkey> hi g5
22:28 <epsy> ok
22:28 <Durka> www.durkadurkaland.com/casino.php
22:28 <Monkey> msg
22:28 <madmax|pt> well that's a good thing Monkey
22:28 <wrtlprnft> Linux butler 2.6.21.4 #1 Mon Jun 11 17:23:35 CEST 2007 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
22:28 <wrtlprnft> :)
22:28 <epsy> that wouldn't be useful as i don't have an arma client here
22:28 <Monkey> er ..yes i spost
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22:29 <wrtlprnft> #f
22:29 <Monkey> wrtl, everyone complaining bout the cafe server lag..
22:29 <Monkey> more than normal..it is bad ...
22:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, might be
22:29 <armabot> Random Fortune: This isn't true in practice -- what we've missed out is Stradivarius's || constant. And then the aside: "For those of you who don't know, that's || been called by others the fiddle factor..." || -- From a 1B Electrical Engineering lecture.
22:29  * Durka has no complaints about sumo bar (when there's less than 10 players)
22:29 <epsy> #ping
22:29 <armabot> pong
22:29 <wrtlprnft> actually i'll restart that server in a few seconds, too
22:29 <epsy> #armaservers
22:29 <Durka> anyone interested in playing in the 'ctf ladle' in 28 minutes
22:29 <armabot> epsy: This data is 52 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12/16), The Tavern (8/16), Tigers Network Classic Play (4/16), Sumo Bar (Teams) (4/16), Fortress Café (3/32), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (1/12), SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8), Tigers Network Speed Blast (1/16)
22:29 <wrtlprnft> and lose my uptime D:
22:29 <Durka> theres a few spots left
22:29 <epsy> heh
22:29 <wrtlprnft>  22:32:55 up 161 days,  4:00,  7 users,  load average: 1.13, 1.03, 1.07
22:30 <Monkey> i mean in general wrtl
22:30 <epsy> bah
22:30 <epsy> do you kmow kexec ?
22:30 <Monkey> for last few weeks;days
22:30 <epsy> *n
22:30 <madmax|pt> its erm, buggy
22:30 <wrtlprnft> hmm
22:30 <wrtlprnft> styball is eating all CPU
22:30 <madmax|pt> ah, got the message now
22:30 <wrtlprnft> maybe that's the reason
22:30 <Monkey> damn that styball..
22:30 <wrtlprnft> let's see if the reboot will fix it
22:30 <epsy> there's something about it on the gentoo wiki
22:30 <wrtlprnft> (and if that server will boot up again…)
22:31 <G5_Ger> The Café is ok for me.
22:31 <Monkey> you got 30 ping g5
22:31 <Monkey> !
22:31 <wrtlprnft> say bye to that server
22:31 <G5_Ger> Monkey: Yes, as always. No change for me.
22:31 <wrtlprnft> stopped replying to pings
22:31 <wrtlprnft> now it gets interesting
22:31 <epsy> lol!
22:31 <wrtlprnft> i always have problems with the sata harddrives not being recocnized
22:32 <wrtlprnft> after kernel updates
22:32 <wrtlprnft> that's why i absolutely hate rebooting that machine
22:32 <Monkey> i just been reading about sata today....
22:32 <epsy> try kexec
22:32 <wrtlprnft> still not replying
22:32 <wrtlprnft> meh
22:34 <wrtlprnft> x_X
22:34 <wrtlprnft> the fun thing is that if the HD isn't found you don't get any log entries, either
22:34 <wrtlprnft> so I don't get an error message, nothing
22:34 <Monkey> need scsi ?
22:35 <wrtlprnft> 208 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 207015ms
22:35 <epsy> is it at your home or ?
22:35 <G5_Ger> wrtl: Plug in the ehternet cable 1st
22:35 <wrtlprnft> no, it's not at home
22:36 <G5_Ger> Or the wireless cable :-)
22:36 <wrtlprnft> otherwise i'd just plug in a monitor
22:36 <epsy> i was gonna say that %P
22:36 <wrtlprnft> who would have an arma server on a WLAN connection?
22:36 <epsy> me ?
22:36 <Monkey> and its got like...1ghz connection so that would be ..expensive at home..
22:36 <madmax|pt> Durka: try Safari 3 :P
22:36 <Monkey> or is it 100 mhz..
22:37 <Monkey> er mbts
22:37 <Monkey> doh
22:37  * Durka has Safari 2.0.4 :O
22:37  * epsy doesn't care
22:37 <G5_Ger> Durka: Get the all new 3.0 for windows ... uhhhh
22:37 <Durka> windoze, pft
22:38 <G5_Ger> Btw: Lamest keynote EVER
22:38 <epsy> :o
22:38 <epsy> safari on wingblows ?
22:38 <epsy> man
22:38 <epsy> konqueror would be better there :P
22:38 <G5_Ger> epsy: Yep, and it is LIGHTNING FAST ... says Steve
22:39 <G5_Ger> epsy: Safari is Konqueror (or the other way round)
22:39 <wrtlprnft> not quite
22:39 <Durka> so, anyone wish to play
22:39 <epsy> (note the smiley)
22:39 <Durka> 18 minutes
22:39 <G5_Ger> Monkey: Do u read my private msgs?
22:40 <madmax|pt> ... I'm trying Safari 3 and it is quite fast
22:40 <wrtlprnft> 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
22:41 <madmax|pt> and the new "find" is good too, on the previous ver. you couldn't see the text you searched o_O
22:41 <G5_Ger> madmax: On the Mac? Yes.
22:41 <madmax|pt> well, yeah, on the mac
22:41 <G5_Ger> But iTunes sucks on Windoze ... so what to expect from Safari?
22:42 <madmax|pt> indeed
22:42 <G5_Ger> The resizable textareas are a great new feature, did u try em?
22:42 <madmax|pt> jeez, the speed is quite noticeable
22:42 <epsy> can you ctrl + enter in them ?
22:42  * wrtlprnft wants a browser that can turn any text area into a gvim window
22:42 <madmax|pt> ahah
22:42 <epsy> :)
22:43 <madmax|pt> that would speed up those big forms
22:43 <wrtlprnft> reboot, second attempt
22:43 <madmax|pt> G5_Ger: what textareas?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> stopped replying to pings…
22:44 <G5_Ger> http://www.apple.com/de/safari/  see point 10
22:46 <madmax|pt> ah, nice
22:47 <epsy> http://www.e17-stuff.org/
22:47 <wrtlprnft> grrrr! still no reply
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22:51  * madmax|pt thinks safari 3 messed with the dock
22:52 <Monkey_> .tea
22:53 <BedMan> #tea
22:53 <armabot> BedMan: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
22:53 <wrtlprnft> it's down until i fix it…
22:53 <Monkey_> heh
22:53 <BedMan> :-) no worries
22:59 <G5_Ger> madmax: A friend of mine complained Safari 3 messed up has Dashboard.
22:59 <G5_Ger> Monkey: Did u read my private msgs?
22:59 <Monkey_> hi
23:00 <Monkey_> sorry my damn dialup disconnected AGAIN
23:01 <Monkey_> could you read that G5 ?
23:03 <G5_Ger> Yes, Monkey, I can.
23:03 <Monkey_> could you read both of them or just the first?
23:03 <Monkey_> er second
23:03 <Monkey_> i mean
23:04 <madmax|pt> G5_Ger: at least Transparent Dock now gives a warning that it may not work on the dock's version
23:04 <G5_Ger> I had three lines from u
23:05 <G5_Ger> And then three more
23:05 <Monkey_> so the private mesaages dont work...it says you need to "register" or something becasue of spam
23:06 <G5_Ger> Monkey: I just wrote u a private line
23:06 <Monkey_> i didnt get it
23:07 <G5_Ger> Sh*t
23:09 <wrtlprnft> interesting
23:10 <wrtlprnft> my server now starts up, but has some weird logs about the NIC
23:10 <Monkey_> g5 we will have to load arma and use an empty server as private chat ...lol  :)
23:11 <wrtlprnft> 10579 Jun 11 22:47:36 marvin dhcpcd[4853]: eth0: invalid length 255 for option 51
23:11 <wrtlprnft> 10580 Jun 11 22:47:36 marvin dhcpcd[4853]: eth0: failed to parse packet
23:11 <wrtlprnft> those two lines a couple of times followed by dhcpcd exiting
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23:18 <wrtlprnft> #base 10 2 224
23:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 11100000
23:19 <wrtlprnft> #base 10 2 127
23:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1111111
23:19 <wrtlprnft> #base 10 2 100
23:19 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1100100
23:20 <wrtlprnft> reboot the 3rd…
23:22 <wrtlprnft> WOOOT! IT WORKS!
23:22 <Monkey_> good good
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23:24 <wrtlprnft> servers back up.
23:25 <Vanhayes> #tea
23:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:25 <wrtlprnft> simply stopped using dhcp
23:25 <wrtlprnft> the IP of that server isn't supposed to change, anyways
23:25 <Monkey_> will that help lag or....not..
23:25 <wrtlprnft> it might
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23:26 <wrtlprnft> new kernel, everything on a fresh start
23:26 <wrtlprnft> good night Lucifer_bed 
23:26 <BedMan> dhcp shouldn't make a difference, technically
23:27 <wrtlprnft> well, dhcp was complaining about invalid packages
23:27 <wrtlprnft> and dieing
23:27 <BedMan> what distro?
23:27 <Monkey_> i dont know details of all technical stuff but something i have learned is that many things can affect performance/lag/etc
23:28 <BedMan> Monkey_: nod - no dissagreement from me
23:28 <BedMan> I do tend to jump into the tech stuff tho :-)
23:28 <Monkey_> ;)
23:28 <BedMan> wrtlprnft: what distro of linux are you running?
23:28 <wrtlprnft> gentoo
23:29 <BedMan> ahh
23:29 <BedMan> ok
23:29 <BedMan> gentoo can be a little... finicky
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23:29 <BedMan> still - static isn't usually a bad thing.
23:29 <BedMan> for servers
23:30 <BedMan> especially
23:30 <P4> hi guys
23:30 <Monkey_> hi
23:30 <wrtlprnft> well, DHCP was the default and it worked so far, so i kept it
23:30 <BedMan> hi
23:30 <Ahoo> hi
23:30 <P4> ahoo :DD
23:30 <Ahoo> no faktycznie gadaja
23:30 <Ahoo> :)
23:30 <P4> .czesc Ahoo
23:30 <tronner> Ahoo: P4 wants me to tell you Hello!
23:30 <P4> :D
23:30 <Ahoo> jo
23:30 <Ahoo> :)
23:30 <Ahoo> eeej kapa to jest
23:30 <wrtlprnft> Linux marvin 2.6.21.4 #3 Mon Jun 11 22:58:16 CEST 2007 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
23:30 <wrtlprnft> :)
23:31 <P4> tylko ze tu po angielsku mow :P (english)
23:31 <wrtlprnft> that still leaves two machines i need to upgrade as soon as possible
23:31 <Ahoo> sry i knoe
23:31 <Ahoo> :)
23:31 <BedMan> wrtlprnft: nice
23:31 <BedMan> Hostname: dsl081-097-188.den1.dsl.speakeasy.net - OS: FreeBSD 5.5-STABLE/i386 - CPU: 2 x Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) - Processes: 121 - Uptime: 34d 20h 22m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 49.87mb/439.46mb (11.35%) - Disk Usage: 50.18gb/124.87gb (40.19%) - External Traffic (dc0): 217.46mb/3159.57mb - Internal Traffic (fxp0): 1170.95mb/2171.03mb
23:31 <wrtlprnft> got a similar one here at home
23:31 <BedMan> lil better than my poor old internet facing box :-)
23:31 <wrtlprnft> Linux butler 2.6.21.4 #1 Mon Jun 11 17:23:35 CEST 2007 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
23:32 <wrtlprnft> cpu MHz         : 398.795
23:32 <BedMan> heh
23:32 <Ahoo> cu
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23:32 <BedMan> Hostname: dualiez - OS: Linux 2.6.20-gentoo-r8/i686 - CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) (3073.843 MHz) - Processes: 72 - Uptime: 18d 7h 5m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 122.43mb/1011.68mb (12.10%) - Disk Usage: 299.33gb/755.04gb (39.64%) - Net Traffic (eth0): 39.96mb/93.42mb
23:32 <wrtlprnft> i wanted a 400MHz box! not that 398.795 crap!
23:33 <BedMan> that's my games server at home
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23:33 <wrtlprnft> the biggest thing this 400MHz server of mine hosts is a 4.5GB mysql database
23:34 <BedMan> I should colo it somewhere and run an armagedtron server on it
23:34 <BedMan> heh - more than my box runs
23:34 <wrtlprnft> we've already got 86 servers right now!
23:34 <BedMan> it just does my network from home
23:35 <wrtlprnft> well, it does cups, nfs and samba, too
23:35 <BedMan> and a socks server on localhost that I ssh to from werk :-) (shhhhh)
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23:35 <wrtlprnft> and a web server for all sorts of random crap
23:35 <BedMan> nod
23:35 <BedMan> same here
23:35 <BedMan> but relegated to internal network only for the most part
23:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah, and a ssh server on port 443 for tunnelling stuff through my school's proxy
23:36 <BedMan> hehe
23:36 <BedMan> ssh is the shiznit
23:36 <wrtlprnft> who would have an NFS server on the internet?
23:36 <BedMan> <3
23:36 <BedMan> ya? I mean ick
23:36 <deja_vu> wrtlprnft: hey, i did the same when i was at school *g*
23:36 <wrtlprnft> and an armagetronad master server
23:36 <P4> wrtlprnft: i can host some nfs u2 server if you want ;PP
23:36 <BedMan> ssh didn't exist when I was in school :-(
23:37 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: ;)
23:37  * BedMan is old
23:37 <deja_vu> :O
23:37  * wrtlprnft praises whoever developed PuTTY for adding HTTP proxy support
23:37 <BedMan> heh
23:37 <BedMan> putty can do much more than just that
23:37 <wrtlprnft> and whoever made SSH use the same protocol as HTTPS
23:37 <wrtlprnft> to the outsider, anyways
23:38 <Monkey_> everyone in tron is old, or hadnt u noticed....
23:38 <wrtlprnft> i know, socks proxy server :D
23:38 <wrtlprnft> unfortunately opera can't use it
23:38  * wrtlprnft is 17
23:38  * Monkey_ is 5
23:38 <BedMan> haha
23:38 <BedMan> go monkey
23:38 <Monkey_> almost 6
23:38 <BedMan> are you translating dog years again?
23:38 <wrtlprnft> #base 5 10 42
23:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 22
23:39 <Monkey_> lol
23:39 <wrtlprnft> once I'm 22 i can say i'm 42 in base 5!
23:40  * wrtlprnft likes borrowing away hos graphic calculator, but setting it to output everything in base 9 first
23:40 <wrtlprnft> *his
23:40 <BedMan> #base 10 2 40
23:40 <armabot> BedMan: 101000
23:40 <BedMan> daaam - that's old
23:40 <BedMan> #base 10 5 40
23:40 <armabot> BedMan: 130
23:40 <BedMan> :-o
23:41 <BedMan> nfw
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23:41 <BedMan> how's that work?
23:41 <Durka> does anyone know how to record
23:41 <wrtlprnft> --record <filename>
23:41 <Durka> does anyone WANT to record the finals right now?
23:41  * Durka is playing
23:41 <Durka> not recording :P
23:42 <Durka> meh
23:42 <wrtlprnft> what should i do with it
23:42 <Durka> give it to 2020
23:42 <wrtlprnft> if i record you'll get a trunk recording
23:42 <Durka> and he can do his thing
23:42 <wrtlprnft> 2020 can't use it
23:42 <Durka> meh
23:42 <Monkey_> has anyone seen 2020 he has vanished for ages..
23:42 <Durka> can u do anything with it?
23:42 <Durka> #last --from i2020
23:42 <armabot> Durka: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1204 messages.
23:42 <wrtlprnft> i'll get a branch recording
23:42 <Durka> :O
23:42 <wrtlprnft> #seen i2020
23:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: i2020 was last seen in #armagetron 5 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes, and 1 second ago: <i2020> your fault for creating the team you do...
23:42 <wrtlprnft> what server?
23:42 <Durka> ok, wrtl, come to ww ctf
23:43 <Durka> #serverinfo =capture
23:43 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “=capture” at the moment, sorry.
23:43 <Durka> :O
23:43 <Durka> #serverinfo pls
23:43 <armabot> Durka: Wild West  =CTF=  (Tournement, PLS DON'T JOIN): Players (10/10): -=}ID< TåZ, Ðûqkå, teh <y<lo, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~*wHaTuP*~, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥ Genki, ¦×¥ Legit
23:43 <Durka> ja ^^
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23:43 <wrtlprnft> can you wait some 2 minutes?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> need to compile it first x_X
23:48 <Vanhayes> where was the sign up for that tourney?
23:50 <Monkey_> the afl?
23:51 <Vanhayes> no, ctf

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00:05 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo pls
00:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wild West  =CTF=  (Tournement, PLS DON'T JOIN): Players (10/11): -=}ID< TåY, <recording>, ot|Ðúrkå	¦Ö¦Qic, teh <y<lo, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~*wHaTuP*~, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦Ö¦Genki, ¦Ö¦Legit
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00:11 <madmax|pt> there's a ctf tourney? o_o
00:12 <Vanhayes> i guess
00:12 <Monkey_> theres a ctf ladle max :)
00:12 <Monkey_> not the firtst time either
00:12 <vinavil> ...
00:13 <Vanhayes> ?? since when
00:16 <Monkey_> they were playing ctf ladle about 1 month ago when i saw..
00:17 <Monkey_> dont know how many times before that...
00:17 <Monkey_> the thing in arma is ...nobody knows what the hell is going on..
00:21 <Monkey_> .tea
00:22 <Vanhayes> #tea
00:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): $ÅsïuÁ	~~~J~~~, abc, G5, mishima, Ossi, Thokul, Vanhayes, xbc345, ~Coin~, ~Radian, ~|DS|~|dvDosc|~
00:22 <madmax|pt> well it isn't on the competition hub
00:22 <madmax|pt> it would be nice if there was some kind of message of the day on the server browser
00:23 <Vanhayes> ya, I would have liked to play in that, if I'd known about it
00:23 <Monkey_> no one reads the wiki...or the website...
00:23 <Monkey_> they need to advertise on servers...obvious really..
00:23 <Vanhayes> if it was on the forums I would have seen it, probably
00:23 <madmax|pt> like announcing upcoming competitions or new versions
00:24 <Monkey_> all of |x|clan played in it
00:24 <madmax|pt> z-man: ever thought of placing a message of the day in the server browser? announcing competitions for instance
00:25 <Monkey_> i think there are other admins who do that..not zman...apart from for his servers
00:25 <Monkey_> i am probably wrong ;)
00:26 <madmax|pt> but a global one would be seen by everyone
00:27 <Monkey_> there are too many competitions to do global in each server...some are not on wiki
00:27 <madmax|pt> having a message there would solve a communication problem
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00:28 <madmax|pt> since there people who dont read the wiki or the forums
00:28 <madmax|pt> *solve the
00:28 <Monkey_> you would never solve communiction problems in tron....;)
00:28 <madmax|pt> heh
00:30 <madmax|pt> going to bed
00:30 <madmax|pt> gnight
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00:47 <digitx> :)
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> man, that guy is sooo good at presenting problems and dismissing/discounting all solutions
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> hope he's not a math major
00:51 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo pls
00:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wild West  =CTF=  (Tournement, PLS DON'T JOIN): Players (9/10): -*$u<ko*-, Ðúrkå	-=}ID< Tå, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~*wHaTuP*~, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦Ö¦Genki, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥ Legit, ¦×¥Rico
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01:22 <mkzelda> ya i dont read the forums/wiki
01:22 <mkzelda> i just play
01:22 <mkzelda> occasionally i cant join my favorite server(s) b/c they have tourn*e*ments going on
01:22 <mkzelda> and im usually unaware
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> ya, but that's your problem.  :)  You know where these things are, and hanging out here you get a good idea of stuff that's going on,
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not like you live in a shell and want someone to spoonfeed information to you
01:25  * Lucifer_arma is doing time-consuming api docs in eugenics :/
01:27 <mkzelda> :/ just got kicked from fort cafe
01:27 <mkzelda> i never see the info discussed here tho
01:28 <mkzelda> i just dont like forums
01:28 <mkzelda> i never saw the poll even come up on fort cafe
01:28 <mkzelda> GayHomosexual didnt last long
01:29 <mkzelda> and the wiki, i can find a whole bunch of stuff i dont want to know
01:29 <mkzelda> but its hard to look for things u dont know exist
01:30 <Vanhayes> #tea
01:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): Brainherpes, hoooop, ikono, Måfñîe©, mishima, Player 1, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~Radian, ©S¦µ4
01:30 <Vanhayes> mkzelda: why did you get kicked?
01:31 <mkzelda> heterophobes
01:31 <mkzelda> im unsure, i never saw a poll
01:31 <mkzelda> i saw 10 other polls going on for the lamers but not one for me
01:31 <mkzelda> its prolly the name tho
01:31 <mkzelda> as lucifer mentioned
01:31 <mkzelda> GayHomosexual doesnt last long
01:32 <mkzelda> i tried to reconnect 5 mins ago and it said 3 mins
01:32 <mkzelda> and i tried to reconnect now and it said 2 mins
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, for somet hings on the wiki, they're very easy to find :)
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> the front page contains a link right there in the main content to the competitions page, so if you want to know about competitions listed on the wiki,
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> no problemo
01:33 <mkzelda> :/ i gues
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> other things are hard to find, but short of a search button and the hierarchical structure, whatcha gonna do?
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> if they're not listed on the wiki, I don't know where they are.  People making a tourney don't have to list it on the wiki, but then I don't want to hear them whine for not getting players
01:34 <mkzelda> its telling me about ladle 12 that already happened
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01:34 <mkzelda> so, im supposed to check every day so i dont miss sign-ups of something
01:34 <mkzelda> that i dont know about
01:35 <Vanhayes> well this ctf tourney wasnt mentioned on either the forums or wiki, I think it was only on ddl forums
01:35 <Vanhayes> and it was the second one too
01:35 <mkzelda> whats ddl?
01:35 <Vanhayes> durka durka land
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01:36 <mkzelda> the high rubber server?
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01:38 <Vanhayes> ya, they have their own forums, and they started TST and CTF tourneys
01:38 <mkzelda> oh cool
01:39 <mkzelda> another place to look :D
01:39 <mkzelda> whoever suggested a server list MOTD had a good idea
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, durka posts his tourneys on the wiki
01:40 <Vanhayes> was ctf there?
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> beats me
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> go look?  ;)
01:40 <Vanhayes> hmm, i think that one is manta's actually
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> did durka run the ctf tourney?
01:40 <Vanhayes> already looked for it, but my 5 minutes of searching didnt find anything
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> I don't disagree with showing a MOTD in the server list, in fact, it's already possible
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Main_Page  <--- where's the link to "Competition Hub"?
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, there's two, because the side navbar has a link too
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Competition_Hub  <--- the links lead to here
01:42 <mkzelda> o.O THATS what the AFL is
01:43 <mkzelda> not american/arena football league
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> man, I can't do this "few cigarettes" and "no tea" together
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> I either need an excess of cigarettes or an excess of tea
01:48 <mkzelda> :/ too late to sign up
01:54  * GodTodd sends Lucifer_arma an excess of tea.
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  check the notice, you can still sign up for a team, just can't start a new team
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> some of the other teams need more people still, last I checked
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01:56 <Lucifer_arma> the tea problem is manageable, later.  I'll look around the house and see if I've still got my old pitcher for it
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have a gallon-sized pitcher that I filled up with tea and took to work, but then I worked at home and just used the fridge
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> I think I know where it is, if I still have it, and I can clean it up and bring it in :)
01:57 <GodTodd> oh...so you're having a "little bit of tea readily reachable" problem :)
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> my regular cup is empty already
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't seem to last very long :/
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> and I only brought 4 cigarettes, and I just smoked my last one
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> still got about 3 hours left, heh :)
02:00 <mkzelda> the 4 teams in the afl are clans. so much for being a part of that
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> so the caffeine headache is kicking in, and the cigarettes offset that
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: check the sign up page, there are 8 teams
02:00 <mkzelda> i saw 5, and one of them is tui and isnt participating
02:01 <Lucifer_arma> ?  It looks like tui is participating
02:01 <Lucifer_arma> or trying to, anyway, but they're short a member
02:01 <mkzelda> durka, ady~lucifer said otherwise
02:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't recall right off if they're supposed to have 4 or 5 to play
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, they'll need to get in touch with me or they'll get big red FORFEIT marks :)
02:02 <Vanhayes> monkey started a few teams I think
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02:02 <mkzelda> who is monkey/g5 here?
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he did
02:03 <mkzelda> ill play for the tards
02:03 <mkzelda> fairly appropriate
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, we've got 4 teams already ready
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> 6 teams ready
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> cool
02:04 <mkzelda> #seen g5
02:04 <armabot> mkzelda: I have not seen g5.
02:04 <mkzelda> #seen monkey
02:04 <armabot> mkzelda: monkey was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 27 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Monkey> doh
02:05 <Vanhayes> #seen G5*
02:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: G5_Ger was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <G5_Ger> Sh*t
02:05 <mkzelda> doh shit heh
02:05 <mkzelda> sounds like my kind of tards
02:05 <Vanhayes> heh
02:06 <mkzelda> #seen durka
02:06 <armabot> mkzelda: durka was last seen in #armagetron 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Durka> ja ^^
02:06 <Vanhayes> thought lack and madmax said they might join up too
02:06 <mkzelda> #lastseen durka
02:06 <armabot> mkzelda: Durka has last been seen on Sumo Bar (Teams) 0 days 9 hours 27 minutes ago.
02:07 <mkzelda> hwo the hell u do his extended ascii
02:07 <mkzelda> #tea
02:07 <armabot> mkzelda: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): Armagetron, hoop, Måfñîe©, near, w00t
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02:34 <ghableska> .weather 50266
02:34 <ghableska> oh
02:34 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 81.9°F (7:34 PM CDT on June 11, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Steady).
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02:57 <P4> #cfg score
02:57 <armabot> P4: KEYBOARD 9 PLAYER_BIND SCORE 0 : || LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score (default: 100) || SCORE_DIE: Amount of points you get for dying (default: -2) || SCORE_KILL: Amount of points you get for killing someone (default: 3) || SCORE_SUICIDE: Amount of points you get for stupidly dying (default: -4) || SCORE_WIN: Amount of points you get for winning a round (default: 10) (1 more message)
02:57 <P4> #more
02:57 <armabot> P4: || SP_LIMIT_SCORE: End the match when a player reaches this score in single player mode (default: 100000) || SP_SCORE_WIN: What you get for winning a round in single player mode (default: 10)
02:58 <P4> what's the score for dying by DZ?
02:58 <P4> #cfg death
02:58 <armabot> P4: SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 1000000) || WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated (default: 30)
03:00 <P4> #cfg win_zone
03:00 <armabot> P4: SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 1000000) || SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME: Minimum number of seconds the round has to be going on before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 100000) || WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION: Expansion speed of the instant win zone (default: (2 more messages)
03:02 <P4> #more
03:02 <armabot> P4: 1) || WIN_ZONE_INITIAL_SIZE: Initial size of the instant win zone (default: 5) || WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated (default: 30) || WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME: Minimum number of seconds the round has to be going on before the instant win zone is activated (default: 60) || WIN_ZONE_RANDOMNESS: Randomness factor of the (1 more message)
03:10 <P4> #more
03:10 <armabot> P4: initial win zone position. 0 fixes it at the arena center, 1 spreads the zone all over it. (default: 0.8)
03:20 <ghableska> #tea
03:20 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Kamakazi, ¦Ö¦Legit
03:28 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 10:30 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 70 percent chance of showers early this evening. Wind northeast 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low 12.; Tuesday - A mix of sun and cloud. Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h in (1 more message)
03:28 <Vanhayes> #more
03:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: the afternoon. High 23. UV index 8 or very high. Tuesday night..cloudy. Wind northeast 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low 11.; Wednesday - Sunny. High 20.;
03:29 <Vanhayes> #night
03:29 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:30 <Lucifer_arma> heyhey, scorched3d got project of the month at sf
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03:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's amazing how much designing you can do while just writing api docs
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07:14 <MrBougo> hi there
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09:05 <Durka> .list
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14:19 <digitx> hi
14:44 <P4> yo digitx
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14:50 <epsy> hi
14:51 <wrtlprnft> hi
14:51 <epsy> hay wrtlprnft :)
14:57 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@144.227-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
15:12 <MrBougo> helo
15:19 <wrtlprnft> hi
15:22 <MrBougo> my usb drive is broken
15:22 <MrBougo> :D
15:22 <MrBougo> it looks funny inside
15:23 <MrBougo> it's like...
15:23 <MrBougo> heh
15:23 <MrBougo> a usb flash drive :p
15:23 <MrBougo> now i'm out
15:23 <epsy> cu
15:23 <MrBougo> gotta study for my english exam
15:23 <MrBougo> err physics i mean
15:23  * epsy is out of school
15:23 <MrBougo> hehe
15:23 <MrBougo> i aint
15:23 <MrBougo> bye :p
15:23 <MrBougo> have a nice day
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16:04 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ed
16:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: weed Kc (EST) seems to be on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 right now.
16:04 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen ct%ed
16:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -HsP- Select has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 14 hours 5 minutes ago.
16:04 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v bugfarm
16:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Bugfarm Fortress clone with alternate ending (87.106.101.25:4536) running 0.2.8_alpha20070523 unix dedic, Description: “Classic Fortress Settings. No winzone, instead, flying deathzones.“, Players (1/16): scooby doo
16:09 -!- vinavil [n=rain@85-18-66-26.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #armagetron
16:10 <vinavil> does anybody have experience with freeBSD?
16:14 <epsy> not epsy
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16:54 <wrtlprnft> Linux colin 2.6.21.4 #1 SMP Tue Jun 12 15:59:38 CEST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
16:54 <wrtlprnft> another machine updated :)
17:13 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@27.197-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
17:14 <MrBougo> hi there
17:19 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@27.197-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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17:20 <MrBougo> crappy crap-crap
17:20 <MrBougo> this xchat needs a fix
17:35 <mkzelda> #lastseen g5
17:35 <armabot> mkzelda: Dr. Pampers G5 has last been seen on Norm's Place 0 days 7 hours 48 minutes ago.
17:35 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
17:35 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 81.1°F (11:38 AM EDT on June 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady).
17:36 <mkzelda> ah cool today :o)
17:36 <MrBougo> #lastseen 27545
17:36 <mkzelda> #lastseen monkey
17:36 <MrBougo> #lastseen 12345
17:36 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
17:36 <armabot> mkzelda: Monkeyklan seems to be on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 right now.
17:36 <MrBougo> #lastseen 123
17:36 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
17:36 <MrBougo> #lastseen 666
17:36 <MrBougo> :(
17:36 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
17:36 <armabot> MrBougo: clv6661 has last been seen on Palatinum's Place 0 days 5 hours 1 minute ago.
17:36 <MrBougo> hehe
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17:38 <mkzelda> thats not the same monkey :(
17:39 <mkzelda> #later tell monkey I'm interested in the tards for the AFL
17:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The operation succeeded.
17:39 <mkzelda> #later tell g5* I'm interested in the tards for the AFL
17:39 <armabot> mkzelda: The operation succeeded.
17:40 <epsy> #lastseen mayn
17:40 <armabot> epsy: mAyn has last been seen on Bouncing Nano Fortress Tests 43 minutes ago.
17:40 <MrBougo> #later tell mkzelda You're interested in the tards for the AFL
17:40 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:40 <MrBougo> g5* ?
17:40 <MrBougo> #help later tell
17:40 <armabot> MrBougo: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
17:40 <MrBougo> oooh
17:41 <MrBougo> #tell m* test
17:41 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: I haven't seen m*, I'll let you do the telling.
17:41 <MrBougo> #later tell m* test
17:41 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:41 <MrBougo> did you receive it mkzelda?
17:41 <epsy> #notes
17:41 <armabot> epsy: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *eclipse*, *josh*, AA_Voodoo, Durka,, everyone, for, g5*, GoddTodd, guru, how, Hyphy, I, madmax|ptz, mkzelda, monkey, Nickserv, one*, operserv, rickyross, royale, someone, and unknown.
17:41 <epsy> xD
17:42 <epsy> #notes m*
17:42 <armabot> epsy: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
17:42 <epsy> #notes $randomnick
17:42 <armabot> epsy: Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 52 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 51 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 13 hours, and 5 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 49 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 48 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, and 8 minutes ago: (1 more message)
17:43 <epsy> #more
17:43 <armabot> epsy: <Sakireth> eat crap, and Sent 6 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, and 30 minutes ago: <MrBougo> Hello, I am epsy !
17:43 <MrBougo> #help notes
17:43 <armabot> MrBougo: (notes [<nick>]) -- If <nick> is given, replies with what notes are waiting on <nick>, otherwise, replies with the nicks that have notes waiting for them.
17:43 <MrBougo> heh
17:44 <MrBougo> #list later
17:44 <armabot> MrBougo: notes and tell
17:44 <MrBougo> #notes
17:44 <armabot> MrBougo: I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick, *eclipse*, *josh*, AA_Voodoo, Durka,, everyone, for, g5*, GoddTodd, guru, how, Hyphy, I, madmax|ptz, mkzelda, monkey, Nickserv, one*, operserv, rickyross, royale, someone, and unknown.
17:44 <MrBougo> lllolz
17:44 <mkzelda> someone everyone
17:44 -!- MrBougo is now known as randomnick
17:44 <randomnick> testy
17:44 -!- randomnick is now known as MrBougo
17:44 <MrBougo> cant nick to $randomnick
17:45 <epsy> MrBougo: noob
17:45 <MrBougo>  I currently have notes waiting for $randomnick
17:45 <epsy> you ?
17:45 <mkzelda> [2007-06-12 11:47:37] <armabot> Sent 4 minutes ago: <MrBougo> You're interested in the tards for the AFL
17:45 <MrBougo> and the "test" one?
17:45 <mkzelda> hasnt shown yet
17:45 <MrBougo> aw
17:45 <mkzelda> which is a good point
17:45 <mkzelda> my g5 might not work
17:46 -!- MrBougo is now known as oneclipsejosh
17:46 <oneclipsejosh> test
17:46 -!- oneclipsejosh is now known as MrBougo
17:46 <MrBougo> :(
17:46 <MrBougo> cant steal the notes
17:46 <MrBougo> #help m
17:46 <armabot> MrBougo: (m <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $*".
17:47 <MrBougo> #notes $randomnick
17:47 <armabot> MrBougo: Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 1 year, 0 weeks, 2 days, 13 hours, and 9 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 49 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, and 12 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 48 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, and 12 minutes (1 more message)
17:47 <MrBougo> #more
17:47 <armabot> MrBougo: ago: <Sakireth> eat crap, and Sent 6 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, and 34 minutes ago: <MrBougo> Hello, I am epsy !
17:47 <MrBougo> i dont get it
17:47 <MrBougo> Sent 6 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, and 34 minutes ago: <MrBougo> Hello, I am epsy !
17:47 <MrBougo> oooooooooh it's there!
17:47 <MrBougo> crapè
17:47 <MrBougo> crap!*
17:47 <MrBougo> i thought that it worked
17:47 <epsy> ???
17:48 <MrBougo> #alias add epsy m [echo $randomnick] Hello I am epsy!
17:48 <armabot> The operation succeeded.
17:48 <MrBougo> #alias remove epsy
17:48 <armabot> MrBougo: The operation succeeded.
17:48 <epsy> ...
17:48 <MrBougo> :p
17:48 <MrBougo> you did #epsy, and i thought that it worked
17:48 <MrBougo> now im out
17:48 <MrBougo> cyas
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17:49 <MrBougo> #null
17:49 <armabot>  
17:49 <epsy> cu MrBougo
17:49 <epsy> have fun
17:49 <MrBougo> #help null
17:49 <armabot> MrBougo: (null <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo  ".
17:49 <MrBougo> #help hello
17:49 <armabot> MrBougo: (hello <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Hello $who :) [f]".
17:50 <epsy> #hello
17:50 <armabot> Hello epsy :) Random Fortune: The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law allegiance. He of all men || should behave as though the law compelled him. But it is the universal || weakness of mankind that what we are given to administer we presently imagine || we own. || -- H.G. Wells
17:50 <MrBougo> alias add hello "echo Hello $who :)[null [m epsy hi there]][f]"
17:50 <MrBougo> you would be spammed
17:50 <MrBougo> bye :p
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17:50 <mkzelda> Google: Linux System Administrator - North Carolina
17:50 <mkzelda> durp a dur thought you would be interested in this job:
17:51 <BedMan> loonix
17:51 <mkzelda> lol
17:51  * mkzelda is more puzzled by who 'durp a dur' is
17:51 <mkzelda> I already applied for that job a month or two ago
17:51 <mkzelda> surprised its still open
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19:13 <cusco> they didn't like your references
19:21 <cusco> hey.. . lol ... anger management
19:22 <cusco> http://www.manbottle.com/humor/Anger_Management
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19:35 <MrBougo> hi there
19:35 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
19:38 <madmax|pt> hi
19:41 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-110-138.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron
19:42 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 84.4°F (12:44 PM CDT on June 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.11 in 985.7 hPa (Steady).
19:42 <ghableska> #tea
19:42 <MrBougo> #ghab
19:42 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): :Idea, =T=~Legionnaire, mini, papa smurf, Shyper Corridor, ~*wHaTuP*~, ~|DS|~sunny, ¢T¦$afari$kater, ¦Ö¦GoAX, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦w¦Lazer, ¬	CT|orly?, °°eLasH, °°oixel
19:42 <ghableska> :o
19:42 <MrBougo> #weather brussels
19:42 <ghableska> crowded
19:42 <MrBougo> just look thru the window, mate
19:42 <armabot> MrBougo: Temperature: 70.3°F / 21.3°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.4mph / 0.6km/h | Updated: 7:45 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of (1 more message)
19:42 <MrBougo> ooh ima fortress a bit
19:42  * ghableska goes off to play
19:42  * MrBougo too
19:47 <MrBougo> #lastseen ghableska
19:47 <armabot> MrBougo: ghableska has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 minutes ago.
19:49 <madmax|pt> #lastseen swoosh
19:49 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
19:50 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM ADT; Today - A few showers ending near noon then cloudy with sunny periods. Wind northeast 20 km/h. High 20. UV index 6 or high.; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of drizzle. Wind northeast 20 km/h. Low 11.; (1 more message)
19:50 <Vanhayes> #more
19:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wednesday - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of drizzle early in the morning. Clearing early in the afternoon. Wind northeast 20 km/h. High 20.;
20:14 <MrBougo> cyas
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20:30 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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21:15 -!- Xevi [n=fn-javac@62.57.88.3.static.user.ono.com] has joined #armagetron
21:15 <P4> hi Xevi ;}
21:18 <Xevi> lol hi p4
21:18 <P4> :DD
21:18 <Xevi> people is permanently here?
21:19 <madmax|pt> hello Xevi
21:20 <Xevi> hi mmn
21:22 <Xevi> the nick register affects all channels?
21:22 <P4> it affects all freenode network
21:23 <P4> but you got to /nickserv identify pass after join
21:23 <P4> to be trusted ;)
21:23 <Xevi> sure, all freenodes...
21:23 <P4> try /query nickserv and then help
21:23 <P4> :}
21:24 <Xevi> thx
21:24 <P4> the best thing is that freenode is TOR compatibile ^^
21:24 <P4> yw
21:24 <Xevi> lol, it mades a lot i don't use a irc :)
21:24 <P4> #weather katowice
21:25 <armabot> P4: The current temperature in Katowice, Poland is 71.6°F (9:00 PM CEST on June 12, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
21:25 <Xevi> #weather barcelona
21:25 <P4> #convert 71.6F to C
21:25 <armabot> P4: Error: 71.6F is not a valid unit.
21:25 <armabot> Xevi: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:80 ° F. / 27 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:69 ° (1 more message)
21:25 <P4> #convert 71.6 F to C
21:25 <armabot> P4: 22
21:25 <P4> 9pm, 22C :D
21:25 <P4> you can sleep at the sea
21:25 <P4> or lake :}
21:25 <P4> with mosquitos :|
21:25 <P4> and skunk :}
21:25 <P4> and VODKA :P
21:25 <Xevi> ajajajja
21:26 <Xevi> mosquito power
21:26 <P4> but i will play armagetron this night :P
21:26 <Xevi> well time to dinner
21:26 <P4> have a good dinner
21:26 <Xevi> there is a way to put away?
21:26 <P4> what you mean Xevi?
21:26 <Xevi> like msn
21:26 <madmax|pt> /away msg
21:26 <Xevi> user stats?
21:26 <P4> yea
21:26 <P4> user stats?
21:26 <P4> .st
21:26 <tronner> P4: P4 has sent 544 messages; a total of 12880 characters, 2314 words, 79 smileys, and 35 frowns; 4 of those messages were ACTIONs.  P4 has joined 2 times, parted 1 time, quit 5 times, kicked someone 0 times, been kicked 0 times, changed the topic 0 times, and changed the mode 0 times.
21:26 <P4> #stats
21:26 <armabot> P4: I have 26 registered users with 24 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
21:26 <P4> #stat
21:27 <Xevi> #ststs
21:27 <Xevi> #stats
21:27 <armabot> Xevi: I have 26 registered users with 24 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
21:27 <P4> try in #crazy-tronners, i lobotomized tronner her
21:27 <P4> here
21:29 <P4> lol
21:29 <P4> nice feature, if you're unvoiced in channel with +m flag you cant even change nick :>
21:29 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
21:29 <CT|P4> #tea
21:30 <armabot> CT|P4: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:30 <CT|P4> #ctrain
21:30 <CT|P4> .ctrain
21:30 <tronner> CT|P4: Crazy Tronners Training Sessions: No online players.
21:30 <CT|P4> anyone for fortress?
21:31 <epsy> guru3: ping
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23:02 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:02 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 87.4°F (4:04 PM CDT on June 12, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Steady).
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Log from 2007-06-13:
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00:11 -!- digitx [n=digitx@unaffiliated/digitx] has quit ["Távozom"]
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00:19  * digitx is away (bye)
00:19 -!- digitx is now known as digitx[off]
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00:59 <ghableska> #tea
00:59 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): åppåqitiøn, eggcozy, ikono, SyntheX, WebGamer, ~"XzL.Tvitesse, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦×¥ Legit, ¦×¥HoAX, °°@shitakA
00:59 <ghableska> #lastseen Zop
00:59 <armabot> ghableska: Zop has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 days 0 hours 40 minutes ago.
00:59 <ghableska> :O
01:07 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-57-76-214.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
01:08 <ghableska> hey DrJoeTron
01:08 <DrJoeTron> hey
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01:40 <Ady-Lucifer> #serverinfo elim
01:40 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: No online players.
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02:18 <Self_Destructo> .st
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> what's the root user in mac os x named?
02:18 <Self_Destructo> ?
02:18  * Self_Destructo has no idea
02:26 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 9:16 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of drizzle or showers. Wind northeast 20 km/h. Low 10.; Wednesday - Clearing in the morning. Wind northeast 20 km/h becoming light in the afternoon. High 20. UV index 8 or (1 more message)
02:27 <Vanhayes> #more
02:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: very high. Wednesday night..clear. Low 8.; Thursday - Sunny. High 21.;
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03:57 <ghableska> hi GodTodd
04:02 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6746051.stm
04:05 <GodTodd> ghableska: wtf?
04:05 <GodTodd> :P
04:05 <ghableska> russian ninjas..come on
04:05 <GodTodd> fuck that
04:05 <GodTodd> :)
04:05 <ghableska> :(
04:06  * GodTodd feels like starting a fight
04:06 <GodTodd> hrmm
04:07 <ghableska> #google fight GodTodd armabot
04:07 <armabot> ghableska: armabot: 882, GodTodd: 393
04:07 <ghableska> armabot wins
04:07  * GodTodd can't beat armabot...that's just not fair :P
04:07 <ghableska> #google fight ghableska GodTodd
04:07 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska: 616, GodTodd: 393
04:07 <ghableska> hehe
04:08 <GodTodd> rigged!
04:08 <GodTodd> :P
04:08 <ghableska> psh
04:08  * GodTodd brings on the apocalypse...
04:08 <GodTodd> #google fight God Satan
04:08 <armabot> GodTodd: God: 343000000, Satan: 24700000
04:08 <GodTodd> heh
04:09 <ghableska> warn luke, not me
04:09 <GodTodd> #google fight God Lucifer
04:09 <armabot> GodTodd: God: 343000000, Lucifer: 7850000
04:09 <GodTodd> #google fight Jesus Satan
04:09 <armabot> GodTodd: Jesus: 142000000, Satan: 24700000
04:09 <GodTodd> #google fight Jesus Lucifer
04:09 <ghableska> that settles it :d
04:09 <armabot> GodTodd: Jesus: 142000000, Lucifer: 7850000
04:09 <GodTodd> #google fight Jesus Lucifer Pan
04:09 <armabot> GodTodd: Pan: 158000000, Jesus: 142000000, Lucifer: 7850000
04:09 <GodTodd> :D
04:09 <ghableska> wtf
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> will you guys quit spamming me!?
04:09 <GodTodd> heh
04:09 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma:  it was all GodTodd
04:09 <GodTodd> it was
04:10 <GodTodd> spank me :)
04:10  * ghableska looks away
04:10  * GodTodd goes back to calculus.
04:12 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:12 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 78.4°F (9:14 PM CDT on June 12, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 2%. Dew Point: -16.6°F. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Steady).
04:39 <mkzelda> http://xkcd.com/c275.html
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04:43 <ghableska> #night
04:43 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:53 <Your_mom_arma> spam on top of spam http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Talk:Index.php&curid=3406&diff=18770&oldid=18769
05:56 <Your_mom_arma> guru3: Can you install an anti-spam plugin(extension) to the wiki? The spam on the wiki is completely out of control. At the very least could you try limiting the wiki to members only for a temporary time(iirc this limited the spam marginally for a short time), until a better solution is found?
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07:17 <MrBougo> hiho
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07:33 <MrBougo> bye
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10:44 <MrBougo> hi there
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12:41 <MrBougo> jello
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13:26 <epsy> hi
13:26 <epsy> hi
13:27 <epsy> hi
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13:28 <epsy> hi
13:28 <epsy> #ping
13:28 <armabot> pong
13:30 <epsy> seems i'm geting problems with my irc client
13:30 <epsy> :F
13:30 <epsy> nothing appears in chat windows
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13:36 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
13:36 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 69.8°F (12:30 PM WEST on June 13, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
13:55 <MrBougo> hi hi hi hi epsy
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13:56 <epsy> mrquoi ?
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14:14 <ghableska> #weather 50266
14:14 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.0°F (7:14 AM CDT on June 13, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.07 in 984.3 hPa (Rising).
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14:29 <MrBougo> hello
14:30 <epsy> hay MrBougo
14:43 -!- digitx[off] is now known as digitx
14:45  * digitx is away (bye)
14:45 -!- digitx is now known as digitx[off]
14:45 -!- digitx[off] is now known as digitx
14:58 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
14:58 <MrBougo> hihoo ghabghab
15:03 <digitx> hi bugi
15:03 <digitx> #kill ghableska
15:03 <MrBougo> hihoo digdig
15:03 <digitx> :D
15:04 <MrBougo> haha there's a nexuiz map, digdigdig
15:04 <digitx> i am admin on brico tremx
15:04 <digitx> :P
15:04 <MrBougo> epsy: ever tried it? :p
15:04 <MrBougo> wtf!
15:04 <digitx> tremulous server :D (tremx)
15:04 <MrBougo> digitx: how did you?
15:04 <digitx> lol
15:04 <digitx> :))
15:04 <MrBougo> you asked :p
15:04 <ghableska> agh
15:04 <digitx> agh
15:04  * ghableska kills digitx 
15:04 <digitx> brb
15:05  * digitx kills ghableska 
15:05 <digitx> :D
15:05 <ghableska> you're already dead, you can't do that!
15:05 <digitx> :D
15:05 <digitx> aha :P
15:05 <digitx> <digitx> #kill ghableska
15:05 <digitx> :P
15:05 <digitx> you are already dead :D
15:11 <ghableska> eh
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16:10 <MrBougo> bye
16:11  * MrBougo kills MrBougo 
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16:11 <digitx> lol
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16:15 <epsy> hi
16:15 <epsy> oh it seems to work now
16:15 <epsy> kewl
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16:53 <Arma377> hello?
16:54 <Arma377> hey can som1 help me with a server?
16:54 <Arma377> host me 1 i mean?
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17:10 <deja_vu> wow.
17:13 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:13 <deja_vu> ....
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17:15 <MrBougo> hiho
17:16 <BedMan> who u callin a ho?
17:17 <luke-jr_work> BedMan is a ho
17:18 <BedMan> :-o
17:18 <BedMan> fiddy dolla - me luv u long time big boy
17:18  * BedMan rubs luke-jr_work 
17:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
17:19 <BedMan> :-o
17:19 <BedMan> now u a BIG boy
17:19 <cusco> 2
17:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b %BedMan!*@*] by luke-jr_work
17:19 <@luke-jr_work> :)
17:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b %BedMan!*@*] by luke-jr_work
17:19 <BedMan> nooooo
17:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
17:20 <BedMan> at least I'm not asking for anyone to host me
17:20 <epsy> heh
17:20 <BedMan> :-)
17:24 <luke-jr_work> I'd prefer that
17:24 <luke-jr_work> I could use more customers
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18:59 <philippeqc> Hello
19:06  * digitx is away (bye)
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19:25 <Ady-Lucifer> #serverinfo elim
19:25 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (5/16): eggcozy, InTenCe, Magic, map, Say`ya
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19:26 <luke-jr_work> ...wtf
19:26 <wrtlprnft> wtf you too.
19:28 <luke-jr_work> I didn't join for 6 seconds just to get server info
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19:42 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 85.5°F (12:44 PM CDT on June 13, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 29.04 in 983.3 hPa (Rising).
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19:59 <mkzelda> http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_159222541.html
20:00 <deja_vu> wow. Oo
20:04 <mkzelda> someone set us up teh gay bomb!
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20:04 <philippeqc> lol, well at least the ground idea (non lethal weapon that makes enemy soldiers more interested in sex than fighting) is interesting.
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20:06 <deja_vu> just hope there won't be any civilians around ...
20:07 <mkzelda> maybe they'll all develop the lisp too and then nobody can understand their comms
20:07 <philippeqc> well, even if there are civilians around, the effect of having them all fornicate together is still much more humane than the effect of having them blow to smitherin or dismembered.
20:08  * deja_vu cries http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grmloy9.png
20:08 <mkzelda> instead of showing pictures of children in need who have been dismembered
20:08 <mkzelda> they'll be showing kids making out with each other
20:08 <mkzelda> "war-torn" will become a euphanism for homosexuality
20:08 <philippeqc> gives a new meaning to "make love not war!"
20:11 <mkzelda> you win
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20:12 <MrBougo> forgot to join
20:13 <MrBougo> im out
20:13 <MrBougo> bye
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20:56 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: could you edit your post to remove the map-on-a-single-line? screws up the display of this page.
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23:01 <Vanhayes> #tea
23:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): cos, CTxOwned, G5, Jimmy Swift, madmax, mAyn, Monkey, NO 591, Ossi, rudy, Tîger, ~*wHaTuP*~, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦Ö¦Legit, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¬
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23:06 <Vanhayes> madmax|p1: why did you change your isp?
23:13 <Vanhayes> madmax|p1: i mean were there any benifits besides a higher ping?
23:14 <Monkey_> hi van
23:14 <Vanhayes> hello
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Log from 2007-06-14:
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00:01  * digitx is away (bye)
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00:18 <madmax|p1> #later tell Vanhayes Hmm, cheaper and supposedly faster (from 8mbps to 12)...
00:18 <armabot> madmax|p1: The operation succeeded.
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00:36  * spidey yawns
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00:51  * spidey yawns @ ghable ska
00:54  * ghableska slaps spidey 
00:55 <spidey> #g 645MB/5
00:55 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:55 <spidey> #g 645MB / 5
00:55 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:55 <spidey> -.-
00:55 <ghableska> lol!
00:55 <spidey> #g 645 MB / 5
00:55 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:55 <spidey> ...
00:56 <spidey> #g 645 / 5
00:56 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:56 <spidey> wait
00:56 <ghableska> #g 645/5
00:56 <armabot> ghableska: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:56 <spidey> ...
00:56 <spidey> #help h
00:56 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no command "h".
00:56 <spidey> #help g
00:56 <armabot> spidey: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
00:56  * spidey slaps armabot 
00:57 <ghableska> #ur
00:57 <armabot> you are is abbreviated you're, not ur!
00:57 <spidey> ?
00:57 <ghableska> ...
00:57 <spidey> #g 645 MB in KB
00:57 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:57 <spidey> you suck
00:57 <spidey> #g 1+1
00:57 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:58 <spidey> is google broke?
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> yep
00:59 <Lucifer_arma> #math calc 1+1
00:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 2
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01:05 <ghableska> #math calc 645/5
01:05 <armabot> ghableska: 129
01:05 <ghableska> :D
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01:18 <ghableska> wb
01:20 <madmax|pt> ty
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01:32 <dsop> some dev online?
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01:38 <dsop> hmm where is a dev when they are needed ;P
01:40 <spidey> doing what normal people do?
01:40 <dsop> obviously
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> reading through mailing list postings trying to find out why my program is hanging when creating a QSvgRenderer?
01:40 <spidey> dude
01:40 <spidey> i'm 2 colors
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> it would be a lot easier if the pyqt guy just hung out in #qt
01:41 <spidey> my right arm, and half my face is tan
01:41 <spidey> while the other half is whitish
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> sit on the other side of the car sometime
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01:41 <spidey> haha
01:41 <spidey> how'd you know ? XD
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> happens to me every summer :)
01:41 <dsop> well i try to figure out how the arma network protocol for receiving serverlists work
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> only reverse, because I'm driving
01:41 <spidey> my brother didn't finish his books so i had to sit there for a hour at the testing center
01:42 <spidey> i looked weird then
01:42 <spidey> because i was red instead of tan
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> maybe if I upgrade my qt to 4.3 and rebuild pyqt my problem will just magically go away
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01:43  * Lucifer_arma considers doing that loooong build cycle
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01:43 <Lucifer_arma> (both qt and pyqt take a long time to build)
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> dsop: did you actually have a question, or did you just want to tell us what you were doing?
01:45 <dsop> Lucifer_arma: i just want to know how the protocol works, without reading through the complete source code
01:45 <dsop> or at least somebody giving me a hint
01:45 <dsop> how to read a server list from the master server
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01:45 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, check the docs that came with the game.  There used to be docs on the network protocol
01:45 <P4> #re
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01:46 <P4> #plugin re
01:46 <armabot> P4: Error: There is no command "re".
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> if those are still there, they might help
01:46 <P4> .re
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, there's only two other places I know you can look
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> one is to dig out tank's php script that polls the master server, and the other is (you guessed it) reading arma's source code directly
01:46 <tronner> P4: (re <regexp> <text>) -- If <regexp> is of the form m/regexp/flags, returns the portion of <text> that matches the regexp. If <regexp> is of the form s/regexp/replacement/flags, returns the result of applying such a regexp to <text>
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> dsop: I suggest you get really well-acquainted with the svn repository browser sourceforge provides :)
01:47 <P4> im sorry about that bit of spam, was wonder if arma can play with regexp :}
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> google has a code search in their labs you might try
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> P4: more than likely you need to give regex's in python syntax, which is slightly different than regular regexs
01:48 <dsop> yeah, thats enough hint, i dont know why i didnt think about searching the serverlist->xml php script in the repos :D
01:48 <dsop> thx a lot
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> np
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> now, can *you* tell me why my program is hanging?  ;)
01:48 <P4> i know there's 2 kind of regexp, perl one and posix one. you want to tell me there's 3rd kind of pyton one?
01:48 <dsop> Lucifer_arma: if u tell me whats the problem :)
01:48 <dsop> or what happens
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> P4: it's possible python uses posix format, I didn't know there was a difference
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> dsop: simple.  It hangs on this line:
01:49 <P4> i see
01:49 <Lucifer_arma>             __renderers[path] = QtSvg.QSvgRenderer(path)
01:50 <dsop> hm
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02:46 <Lucifer_arma> dsop: I figured it out, appears to be a qt bug
02:48 <GodTodd> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4253849.stm
02:48 <GodTodd> hahaha
02:48 <GodTodd> i hurt just reading that
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> Doctors were unable to re-attach the organ.
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> damn
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> I always thought testicles were considered glands
02:50 <P4> damn... tronner dont want to talk with me privatly, only in channel :|
02:50 <P4> strange
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02:50 <Lucifer_arma> P4: have to register the nick and get tronner to autoidentify
02:50 <P4> tronner is identified to services
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he just hates poles?
02:51 <P4> it was OK till alst modem reconncects :|
02:51 <P4> nvm... i hope it will be OK when i awake... gnight
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> P4:  You're not identified. So the bot doesn't get your pms
03:15 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
03:15 <Your_mom_arma> armabot: ping
03:15 <armabot> pong
03:15 <armabot> pong
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03:21 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
03:21 <armabot> pong
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03:53 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:53 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 79.2°F (8:54 PM CDT on June 13, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 28.98 in 981.3 hPa (Falling).
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04:53 <ghableska> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgnloJgui1U&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmfrost%2Etypepad%2Ecom%2Fcute%5Foverload%2F
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08:07 <MrBougo> hiho buddiez
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09:32 <P4> Lucifer_arma: the problem was i wasn't identifed to services, LOL! :P sorry about making confusion
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10:04 <MrBougo> hiho
10:04 <P4> hi MrBougo
10:05 <P4> http://boomp3.com/m/d676c1c6de37 <=- you like frenchcore? :}
10:05 <P4> "back in US, back in US, back in USSR" lalalallalalla :D
10:05 <P4> :P
10:05 <MrBougo> wtfµ
10:05 <MrBougo> :p
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10:06 <MrBougo> nah i dont like frenchcore or whatevercore
10:06 <P4> hardcore :D
10:06 <P4> pity
10:06 <P4> whta you like then?
10:06 <MrBougo> more housey or trancey stuff :p
10:06 <P4> oh trance... i see :P
10:06 <MrBougo> proggy
10:06 <P4> it's too kind for me ;}
10:06 <MrBougo> hehe
10:06 <MrBougo> i have the opposite feeling about hardcore
10:07 <P4> :D
10:07 <P4> i see
10:07 <P4> pity, don't you know who could like music lie that? (except me) :}
10:07 <MrBougo> i do
10:07 <MrBougo> but noone you know :p
10:07 <P4> i see :P
10:07 <MrBougo> i mean i do know
10:07 <MrBougo> i dont like but i know people who do
10:08 <MrBougo> dont worry, youre not the only one
10:08 <MrBougo> sometimes i feel the same
10:08 <MrBougo> way
10:08 <MrBougo> i mean
10:08 <MrBougo> i think i'm the only fuckin belgian guy who likes trance and proggy house
10:09 <P4> i know im not the only, but i feel like i'm distinguished
10:09 <P4> :}
10:09 <MrBougo> when you see everybody around you listening to (c)rap and stuff
10:09 <MrBougo> aargh
10:10 <P4> :P
10:12 <P4> speedfreak used to mix samples from strange sources like horrors or popular rap/pop music... he makes it hardcore and it's damn pwn ass for me :) i like stress friends by playing them something they think they know, and it after 2 or 3 bars becomes damn hard hardcore :D
10:48 <MrBougo> bye
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10:55 <P4> i've just found my old S3 videocard that uses PCI slot to connect it :P
10:55 <P4> good my friend needs it, dunno what for ;P
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11:09 <P4> #cvs
11:10 <P4> #svn
11:10 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
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14:15 <epsy> hi
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18:25 <ghableska> #weather 50266
18:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 83.5°F (11:25 AM CDT on June 14, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.01 in 982.3 hPa (Falling).
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18:32 <madmax|pt> #lastseen 2020
18:32 <armabot> madmax|pt: timed out
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18:57 <n0s> Hi
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19:30 <MrBougo> hiho
19:38 <wrtlprnft> hi
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19:45  * ghableska pokes MrBougo 
19:45  * MrBougo pokes ghableska
19:45 <MrBougo> with a stick
19:45 <ghableska> o.O
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19:46 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 87.3°F (12:49 PM CDT on June 14, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 28.99 in 981.6 hPa (Falling).
19:52 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
19:52 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Hedingham, Raleigh, North Carolina is 67.5°F (1:55 PM EDT on June 14, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
19:52 <mkzelda> its actually nice and cool here today
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20:18 <guru3> epsy: pong
20:18 <MrBougo> bye
20:18  * MrBougo pokes ghableska with epsy
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20:18 <ghableska> ...
20:25 <epsy> who spoke to me ? remember i don't have any chatboard -.-'
20:27 <epsy> brb
20:28 <guru3> epsy:
20:28 <guru3> you pinged me while i was mia
20:29 <epsy> yesterday ?
20:29 <guru3> i don't know
20:29 <guru3> sometime in the last 6 days
20:29 <epsy> your server was laggying
20:29 <epsy> i'm ff now
20:29 <guru3> ok
20:33 <wrtlprnft> guru3: did you get my ping about the default stylesheet?
20:34 <wrtlprnft> on the wiki, that is
20:34 <wrtlprnft> *default skin, in mediawiki terms
20:34 <guru3> yeah what skin would be better?
20:34 <wrtlprnft> monobook?
20:34 <guru3> ok
20:35 <wrtlprnft> oh, and jonathan suggested you put the images used by that skin on your server
20:35 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/wikibg-white.png
20:35 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/wikibg-yellow.png
20:36 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/wikibg.png
20:36 <wrtlprnft> those three
20:36 <guru3> ok
20:37 <guru3> ok
20:37 <guru3> they're on /images/theme/
20:37 <wrtlprnft> ok
20:37 <wrtlprnft> ah, and the skin changed, too :)
20:38 <guru3> where do i do that?
20:39 <wrtlprnft> i meant the default skin
20:39 <wrtlprnft> already changed it to use the images on your server
20:39 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css
20:39 <guru3> ok
20:40 <guru3> so the wiki should be using the images off its server now?
20:40 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:40 <guru3> ok
20:40 <wrtlprnft> so the images won't be unavailable if the wiki isn't as well
20:40 <guru3> roger
20:42 <guru3> dinner now. then the fun joy of checking the forums afterwards xD
20:42 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:42 <wrtlprnft> no spam :)
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20:56 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
20:56 <Vanhayes> hello
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21:46 <vinavil> any info about how to install AA on solaris?
21:48 <wrtlprnft> I dunno. But I guess you need to install from source
21:49 <vinavil> yea, i supposed it
21:49 <digitx> http://www.google.com/search?q=armagetron+for+solaris
21:49 <vinavil> thx!
21:50 <digitx> google is your friend ;)
21:50 <digitx> http://armagetron.sourceforge.net/old/screenshots/screenshot14.jpg
21:50 <digitx> lol
21:50 <digitx> xD
21:51 <wrtlprnft> which reminds me of something i wanted to try out
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22:19 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=592&max=601 :D
22:19 <wrtlprnft> the code for the old explosions still exists, it's just commented out :D
22:20 <wrtlprnft> but they're ugly and buggy. I love how you can't see cycles
22:20 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_601.png is especially bad
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> old explosions?
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> you mean there were explosions before we had the lines?
22:23 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:24 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.sourceforge.net/old/screenshots.html
22:24 <wrtlprnft> under “Earlier screenshots in two player mode:”
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> hey, those are kinda neat
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> it might be worth uncommenting that code sometime and seeing if it can be made to work :)
22:26  * Lucifer_arma guesses there's no accounting for taste
22:26 <wrtlprnft> it's buggy!
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh no!  Not that!  Anything but that!
22:27 <wrtlprnft> i did that to generate the screenshots i linked to
22:27 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=592&max=601
22:27 <wrtlprnft> sort of skewed for some reason, but you can see the issues
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> I guess what I liked was the idea of a growing dome of light, your collection of screenshots doesn't show it that way
22:28  * wrtlprnft is surprised you didn't know of that commented out block. You made that particle attempt which is like 20 lines away from it, after all
22:29  * Lucifer_arma ignores the big commented blocks unless something catches his eye
22:29 <wrtlprnft> i just joined CTWF and randomly pressed the screenshot button whenever explosions were visible
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> probably not the best policy
22:29 <wrtlprnft> the gluSphere call cought my eye
22:31 <wrtlprnft> actually, is it “cought” or “caught”?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #google fight caught cought
22:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: caught: 108000000, cought: 509000
22:31 <wrtlprnft> i guess it's the latter…
22:51  * epsy switches to xchat aqua
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> caught
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22:51 <Lucifer_arma> #google spell cought
22:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: caught
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22:54 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails -v cafe
22:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: Fortress Café (88.198.22.100:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20070610 unix dedic, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “Hetzner server, AMD64 3700+, 1Gbit/s uplink. Standard fortress settings, but with wall shrink. DEDICATED_FPS is increased to 100.“, Players (6/32): Gonzap, Jimmy Swift, radian, ~*SP*~Sasha, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦×¥Rico
22:54 <madmax|pt> #serverdetails -v elimination
22:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (134.95.67.143:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20070416 unix dedic, Description: “Push your enemy out of the shrinking circle. Every full hour, an elimination tournament starts where the lowest ranked players are removed from the game periodically.“, Players (1/16): eggcozy
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22:57 <epsy> aaah
22:58 <epsy> now got a working client
23:02 <wrtlprnft> wait a sec
23:02 <wrtlprnft> just realized that
23:02 <wrtlprnft> digitx used google to solve a problem that wasn't even his?
23:04 <madmax|pt> o_O
23:06 <wrtlprnft> and i love if wine manages to start a program that changes the resolution, then crashes. It's just so great if the screen is so small you can't reach the OK button of the dialog to change the resolution: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/greatres.png
23:17 <epsy> o really ?
23:17 <epsy> xD
23:17 <epsy> well, the screen scolls here then
23:17 <wrtlprnft> sometimes does for me, too
23:17 <epsy> always does here :P
23:18 <epsy> ()well, at home)
23:18 <wrtlprnft> can you imagine how bad it looks if that little image is scaled up to 1280×800 using a crappy interpolation algorithm?
23:18 <wrtlprnft> not to mention that it's nonproportional
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23:20 <epsy> :O
23:20 <epsy> stop using kde then
23:20 <epsy> ^^^^^^^
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23:21 <epsy> no, seriousely... you could get a try of kdenlightenment
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23:21 <epsy> :O
23:22 <epsy> stupid quit messages ads
23:22 <wrtlprnft> too lazy and too happy with kde i guess
23:23 <epsy> i said kdeenlightenment, not pure enlightenment
23:23 <wrtlprnft> what's that?
23:24 <epsy> kde with enlightenment as window manager
23:25 <wrtlprnft> does enlightment have the ability to set window-specific settings? For example I like to have opera always appear without window decorations filling the entire screen
23:25 <epsy> yes of course
23:26 <epsy> you can set many things liek that
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I thought I was the only psycho that liked a large web browser
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> I wound up leaving the window decoration to make it so I could actually see the download dialog when I need to
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> but if it weren't for the panel, I'd make firefox a desktop level window
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> so the show desktop button would bring up firefox :)
23:27 <wrtlprnft> if you substract tab- and sidebar it's not that large anymore :x
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> ?  tab and sidebar?
23:28 <epsy> there'S a pin to desktop option too
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, the problem here is that the panel is allowed to extend over desktop level windows, which covers up the right scrollbar
23:30 <epsy> you can put it under ALL
23:31 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/standardoperasession.png
23:31 <wrtlprnft> that's what opera looks like for me
23:31 <wrtlprnft> just with actual tabs, not just blank ones
23:31 <epsy> yep ?
23:32 <deja_vu> *g*
23:34 <epsy> i'm off
23:34 <epsy> cya folks
23:34 <deja_vu> didn't know you could wrap the tabs :o
23:34 <epsy> (wrtl, what would you ask me ?)
23:35 <deja_vu> nice :>
23:36 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:36  * wrtlprnft is confused by both deja_vu and epsy now
23:36 <wrtlprnft> it's a plot!
23:36 <luke-jr_work> 640x480 is a nice size for browsers
23:36 <wrtlprnft> i prefer 80×60
23:37 <luke-jr_work> not pixels!
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23:39 <wrtlprnft> 108×24 is just fine: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/tinybrowser.png
23:40 <deja_vu> wrtlprnft: imagine ~40 tabs in a single line ;)
23:40 <wrtlprnft> don't need to, i can just change the settings of my browser to see it
23:41 <deja_vu> hehe
23:41 <wrtlprnft> not enough space to display the favicon
23:41 <wrtlprnft> of every page
23:41 <wrtlprnft> OTOH, my skin is a bit wasteful horizontally
23:42 <deja_vu> breeze simplified is quite small and looks fine ;)
23:43 <wrtlprnft> i think i tried that once and didn't like it for some reason
23:43 <deja_vu> hehe
23:45 <wrtlprnft> ah right, the text in the tabs touches the favicon, and I don't like the monocolored background and the scrollbars
23:46 <wrtlprnft> and i'd need to modify it to get rid of those #$%§ß useless close buttons
23:46 <deja_vu> o.O
23:46 <deja_vu> mine doesn't show close buttons
23:46 <wrtlprnft> there's a setting in the preferences
23:46 <deja_vu> yea
23:46 <wrtlprnft> but IIRC it changes other stuff, too
23:47 <deja_vu> hm.. can't remember other skins right now^^
23:47 <wrtlprnft> the one that tries to emulate opera 6 is quite nice
23:48 <wrtlprnft> used that for quite some time before moving to my current one
23:48 <deja_vu> hm...
23:48 <deja_vu> what's it called?
23:48 <wrtlprnft> something with classic in it
23:49 <wrtlprnft> http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=85
23:49 <wrtlprnft> looks ugly to me now, heh
23:49 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
23:51 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:51 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:51 <deja_vu> ah
23:51 <deja_vu> i remember that look :)
23:52 <deja_vu> iirc i even registered opera 6

Log from 2007-06-15:
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00:47 <ghableska> #weather 50266
00:47 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 88.0°F (5:49 PM CDT on June 14, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Falling).
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00:50 <Lucifer_arma> holy fuck, why does the tui site take so long to load?
00:53 <luke-jr_work> text user interface?
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00:59 <P4> http://web.archive.org/web/20030208003919/www.startron.org/download.html <=- fo you know this game startron (can connect to battle.net)
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01:17 <P4> silly game ;P
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01:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr ping
01:49 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: what?
01:49 <spidey> you know anything about mirroring mysql servers automatically?
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> nope
01:50 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
01:50 <spidey> :(
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01:54 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:54 <armabot> pong
02:04 <spidey> ok
02:04 <spidey> solution
02:05 <spidey> use mysql admin, schedule the backups, use a shellscript that downloads/imports the .sql....use cron to run the shellscript a few minutes after the backup
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> there will be lag thataway, and it'll suck up resources like there's no tomorrow
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> the word you're looking for is "replication"
02:13 <spidey> heh
02:16  * digitx is away (bye)
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02:34 <Lucifer_arma> #google pastebin
02:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.08 seconds: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool: <http://pastebin.com/>; general pastebin - simplified internet collaboration: <http://pastebin.ca/>; Pastebin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin>; Pastebin - Paste and link to it: <http://paste.uni.cc/>; paste.lisp.org pastebin: <http://paste.lisp.org/>; Pastebin - (1 more message)
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03:06 <Your_mom_arma> hey Fonkay
03:08 <Fonkay> hey moms, long time
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04:21 <mkzelda> anyone using boost-1.34
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07:45 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: not me, i have dev-libs/boost-1.33.1-r1
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09:17 <Lazersquash> hello
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09:58 <spidey> anyone want 10,000 nes roms?
09:58 <spidey> lol
09:58 <guru3> Oo
09:59 <spidey> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=24FY529N
09:59 <spidey> :D
09:59 <spidey> 10,785
10:00 <spidey> that has to be every game made for reg. nintendo
10:16 <wrtlprnft> can't hurt to get some food for zsnes
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11:00 <MrBougo> jelo
11:34 <P4> .czesc MrBougo
11:34 <tronner> Hello MrBougo !
11:37  * P4 is listening to Goran Bregovic - Daddy's gone right now.
11:37 <P4> Daddy's gone right now IRL :}
11:38 <MrBougo> hiho p4
11:39 <P4> #seen epsy
11:39 <armabot> P4: epsy was last seen in #armagetron 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <epsy> (wrtl, what would you ask me ?)
12:03 <MrBougo> bye
12:03 <MrBougo> bye
12:03 <MrBougo> bye
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12:58 <epsy> hi
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13:06 <MrBougo> iho
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13:36 <epsy> hay mrbougo
14:05 <MrBougo> im on swampland
14:05 <MrBougo> #lastseen mr. Bougo
14:05 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo seems to be on Swampland in 2.7.1 right now.
14:06 <epsy> :O
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14:26 <Ady-Lucifer> hi, isnt there possible making a ladder for the elimination sumo server champions?
14:39 <Ady-Lucifer> no?
14:43 <MrBougo> Ady-Lucifer: here is a useless message... you think it's an answer to your question but it isnt... have a nice reading!
14:43 <MrBougo> bye :p
14:43 <MrBougo> #lastseen Mr. Bougo
14:43 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Swampland in 2.7.1 1 minute ago.
14:43 <Ady-Lucifer> jaja bougo
14:43 <Ady-Lucifer> #lastseen ady
14:43 <MrBougo> :p
14:43 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: ~*SP*~ ady_sux has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Training Sessions 0 days 1 hours 5 minutes ago.
14:44 <Ady-Lucifer> ive got fans
14:44 <MrBougo> haha
14:44 <MrBougo> ady sux
14:44 <MrBougo> xD
14:44 <Ady-Lucifer> thats omega
14:44 <MrBougo> #lastseen lucifer
14:44 <armabot> MrBougo: SP-Ady-Lucifer has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 1 days 23 hours 30 minutes ago.
14:44 <MrBougo> #lastseen epsy
14:44 <Ady-Lucifer> #lastseen ~*SP*~Ady
14:44 <MrBougo> #lastseen gss
14:44 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
14:44 <armabot> MrBougo: gss has last been seen on Swampland in 2.7.1 2 days 14 hours 6 minutes ago.
14:44 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: ~*SP*~Ady has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Training Sessions 0 days 1 hours 7 minutes ago.
14:44 <MrBougo> #lastseen groundpig
14:44 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
14:44 <MrBougo> i miss groundpig
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
14:45 <MrBougo> :(((
14:45 <Ady-Lucifer> #lastseen ~*SP*~WeirD
14:45 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: ~*SP*~WeirD has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 27 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen löcutus
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: löcutus has last been seen on G-Land 0 days 6 hours 46 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> bye :p
14:45 <Ady-Lucifer> #lastseen player1
14:45 <Ady-Lucifer> cu
14:45 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Player1 has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts}Anbu Edition 1 days 9 hours 47 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> xD
14:45 <MrBougo> heh
14:45 <Ady-Lucifer> lol
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen player 1
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Player 1 seems to be on G-Land right now.
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen player 2
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Player 2 has last been seen on The Tavern 22 minutes ago.
14:45 <Ady-Lucifer> haha
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen player 3
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Player 3 has last been seen on SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] 0 days 11 hours 38 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen player 4
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Player 4 has last been seen on :: spilgrp fko - armagetron advanced :: 0 days 9 hours 42 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> #lastseen player 5
14:45 <MrBougo> heh
14:45 <armabot> MrBougo: Player 5 has last been seen on ID Tech 0 days 15 hours 42 minutes ago.
14:45 <MrBougo> haha
14:46 <Ady-Lucifer> #lastseen imanoob
14:46 <MrBougo> bye now, i'm spamming too much :p
14:46 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: timed out
14:46 <MrBougo> #lastseen noob
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14:46 <armabot> MrBougo: noob7 seems to be on The Tavern right now.
14:46 <Ady-Lucifer> lol, ok cu
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15:16 <epsy> mrbougp: catfight
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17:47 <epsy> rain was also here
17:47 <Monkey_> hi epsy
17:48 <epsy> hay monkey
17:48 <epsy> brb
17:52 <Monkey_> #tea
17:52 <armabot> Monkey_: Fortress Café: No online players.
18:00 <epsy> back
18:10 <Monkey_> epsy join #arma-ladle
18:11 <wrtlprnft> ladle?!
18:11 <Monkey_> hehe, no ladle tourney this month..just the channel :)
18:11 <Monkey_> hi wrtl
18:13 <wrtlprnft> hi
18:14 <wrtlprnft> :D
18:14 <Monkey_> you playing afl wrtl?
18:14 <wrtlprnft> no
18:14 <wrtlprnft> won't be there
18:14 <Monkey_> on the beach eh ;)
18:15 <wrtlprnft> no
18:15 <wrtlprnft> canada
18:16 <epsy> heh...far from beach :p
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18:29 <Lucifer_arma> because canada, as we all know, is a landlocked country shrouded in perpetual winter
18:32 <Monkey_> you learn something new every day ;)
18:34 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
18:34 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM ADT; Today - Sunny. Fog patches along parts of the coast. High 21 except 17 along the coast. UV index 8 or very high.; Tonight - Clear. Increasing cloudiness near midnight with 30 percent chance of drizzle. Fog patches (1 more message)
18:35 <Vanhayes> I suppose 21 C is cold to you cold blooded texans
18:35 <Monkey_> check the UK temps for a shock
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, time to get out your winter jacket, polar bear
18:35 <Vanhayes> #weather london
18:35 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
18:35 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM EDT; Today - Sunny. High 27. UV index 9 or very high.; Tonight - Clear. Low 14.; Saturday - Sunny. High 30.;
18:35 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek Marlins, Austin, Texas is 80.8°F (11:38 AM CDT on June 15, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> chilly morning
18:36 <Vanhayes> #g 80.8 F in C
18:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> .list alias
18:36 <Monkey_> maybe london is warmer but the rest is NOT
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> no tronner?
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> #list alias
18:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: roulette, add, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, babel, ball, bigbrother, bounce, bug, bye, cat, cfg, chatlog, check, crazylate, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, do, dog, dong, eliza, eroulette, f, fastfood, fortune, g, gcalc, gfight, go, goodbye, hell, hello, hey, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, joke, killsomeone, laddle10, (2 more messages)
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> man, tronner has the finc alias :/
18:37 <Vanhayes> .list alias
18:37 <Vanhayes> .ping
18:37 <Vanhayes> !ping
18:38 <epsy> :O
18:38 <Vanhayes> tronner: Ping
18:38 <Vanhayes> bah
18:38 <epsy> tronner is on #crazy-tronners
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add finc "math calc ($1-32)*5/9"
18:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 80
18:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 26.6666666667
18:38 <epsy> :O
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 70
18:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 21.1111111111
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add cinf "math calc ($1*5/9)+32"
18:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 21
18:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 43.6666666667
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> er
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> #alias remove cinf
18:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add cinf "math calc ($1*9/5)+32"
18:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 21
18:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 69.8
18:39 <Lucifer_arma> there, close enough
18:42 <epsy> Lucifer_arma: :O
18:43 <epsy> oh well
18:43 <epsy> #echo $channel: take a tour to #arma-ladle
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> ?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> it's a channel with a bot and 2 crazy europeans, why would I want to be there?  ;)
18:45 <epsy> :O Monkey_ is european ?
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> uk, isn't he?
18:46 <epsy> Oo
18:46 <Monkey_> epsy clearly pays a lot of attention...
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> his english is too good for him to be american....
18:46 <Monkey_> hey yall wart yer sayn bout my inglursh
18:46 <Lucifer_arma> see what I mean?
18:46 <epsy> well, your ping on arma is pretty high...that's why i was supposing....well, sorry anyway
18:46 <Monkey_> im on dialup
18:46 <Monkey_> i:0
18:46 <epsy> :O
18:47 <Monkey_> i played on australian fort other day and had ping of 700
18:47 <epsy> monkey is not so crazy as me...
18:47 <epsy> :O
18:47 <epsy> nee i said nothing
18:47 <Lucifer_arma> if you have to remind people you're crazy, you're not crazy
18:48 <Monkey_> any one who likes styball is truly crazy
18:48 <epsy> man...you never seen me on arma
18:48 <epsy> :O p 4 xD
18:49 <Monkey_> correct
18:49 <epsy> i liked his styball server
18:49 <epsy> my fps raised with the speed_factor xD
18:50 <epsy> brb
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19:30 <MrBougo> helo
19:32 <Monkey_> hi
19:53 <epsy> hay mrbougo
19:54 <MrBougo> hoy
19:54 <epsy> :O
20:00 <epsy> #lastseen bougo
20:00 <armabot> epsy: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Swampland in 2.7.1 0 days 5 hours 18 minutes ago.
20:00 <epsy> :O
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20:12 <MrBougo> bye
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20:13 <epsy> :O
20:14 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@m198214186130.austincc.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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20:17 <epsy> :O
20:18 <epsy> #m vinavil you connect and disconnect spammer
20:18 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:24 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
20:27 <luke-jr_work> what is 666 in base π?
20:36 <epsy> :O
20:36 <epsy> who uses pi base ?
20:46 <epsy> guru3: you're being attacked Oo
20:47 <guru3> i am?
20:47 <epsy> your server is crashing Oo
20:47 <guru3> tigers network?
20:47 <epsy> DoS attack i presume
20:47 <epsy> yes
20:47 <guru3> weird
20:47 <guru3> or it could be
20:47 <guru3> not
20:47 <guru3> because i am downloading some stuff
20:48 <guru3> wouldn't expect it to use that much bw
20:48 <epsy> no, i really got NO updates
20:48 <epsy> a guy entered usurpating e2d2
20:48 <epsy> then he came with 3 copies, on the same client
20:48 <guru3> mhm
20:48 <epsy> then he probaböy launched the attack
20:49 <epsy> *l
20:49 <guru3> i'm not noticing anything here tho
20:49 <guru3> so
20:49 <epsy> can you connect to your server ?
20:49 <guru3> not tried
20:50 <epsy> can connect again it seems
20:52 <guru3> just let it go
20:52 <guru3> that works best
20:59  * digitx is away (bye)
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21:18 -!- P4 is now known as owned
21:19 -!- owned is now known as P4
21:21 <epsy> :O
21:23 <P4> ;)
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21:26 <Drjoetron> oh this is awesome
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21:32 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:37 <epsy> hmm
21:44  * digitx is away (bye)
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21:53 <somody> what's up in here?
21:55 <wrtlprnft> not much right now
21:55 <somody> yeah, i can tell ;P
21:55 <wrtlprnft> sometimes you can watch luke-jr_work defend his creationist views
21:55 <wrtlprnft> or Lucifer_arma and luke-jr_work fighting
21:56 <wrtlprnft> or some dev talk between philippeqc and someone else
21:56 <wrtlprnft> or some talk about the weather
21:57 <wrtlprnft> or me ranting about some random topic
21:58 <wrtlprnft> #serverlist
21:58 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
21:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 12 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14/14), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (13/16), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (13/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), Wild West  =Capture The (3 more messages)
21:59 <wrtlprnft> ctwf×2 it seems :D
21:59 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-57-68-56.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:00 <DrJoeTron> well that is probably one of the neatest/useless apps
22:01 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen wrtlprnft 
22:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft |mbc| seems to be on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo right now.
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> hey, me and luke haven't fought in a long time
22:02 <Lucifer_arma> not since I put him on my ignore list
22:02 <wrtlprnft> :D
22:03 <Lucifer_arma> somody: it's spelled "sodomy"
22:03 <somody> haha funny
22:03 <somody> i'm outta here /exit
22:03  * Lucifer_arma wonders if naming yourself "sodomy" in arma will get the same result as "gaymosexual"
22:04  * somody wonders if Lucifer_arma has an intact brain
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22:05 <wrtlprnft> #later tell somody if you ever come back, no, Lucifer_arma doesn't, obviously ;)
22:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:09 <DrJoeTron> #later tell somody dont listen to wrtlprnft
22:09 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
22:09 <DrJoeTron> #later tell somody EVER
22:09 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
22:09 <DrJoeTron> :D
22:10 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/polyhudmapexplosions.png
22:11 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:26 <epsy> :O
22:27 <epsy> WAIT
22:27 <epsy> *
22:27 <epsy> explosions on hud map ?
22:28 <epsy> wtf is this thick zone btw :OO
22:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft: :O
22:33 <epsy> for gad what are these stupid explosions ? http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_601.png xD
22:34  * digitx is away (bye)
22:41 <wrtlprnft> epsy: those are the very first explosions there ever were!
22:41 <wrtlprnft> look at the old screenshots, there's one that shows them
22:42 <wrtlprnft> the code is still there, but slightly broken and commented out
22:42 <wrtlprnft> and the explosions on the hud map are there because they were easy to implement with the new system
22:42 <wrtlprnft> be glad the sparks aren't on the hud map
22:43 <epsy> what was that thing about ?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> what thing?
22:44 <epsy> the one on the link you (accidentally) posted
22:44 <wrtlprnft> note how cycles and zones disappear behind explosions :D
22:44 <epsy> :O
22:45 <wrtlprnft> it's a screenshot i made a few days ago
22:45 <wrtlprnft> polygonal zones on the HUD map
22:45 <epsy> and the "thick zone" is ??
22:45 <wrtlprnft> and normal zones, too, they disappeared because ph totally changed the zone model
22:45 <epsy> :O
22:45 <wrtlprnft> epsy: get the latest trunk and play ph's map
22:46 <epsy> :O
22:46 <epsy> i don't have svn here
22:46 <epsy> i don't have xcode either :/
22:46 <wrtlprnft> 448648 20:12 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/HamburgerHill-c.aamap.xml)
22:46 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a rotating polygonal zone
22:47 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=588&max=591
22:47 <epsy> they rotate ? :O
22:47 <wrtlprnft> if you conquer the fortress style zones next to it its rotation slows down, allowing you to enter and get the winzone
22:47 <epsy> :O
22:48 <epsy> scripting on it ? or predefined effects ?
22:48 <wrtlprnft> sort of scripting
22:48 <wrtlprnft> very flexible map format
22:48 <epsy> (and so we can have sort of moving walls Oo)
22:49 <wrtlprnft> already talked to PH about that
22:50 <epsy> #m philippec très impressionné...par les possibilites et pas la taille des maps x)
22:50 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:50 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=15371
22:50 <epsy> #m philippec *par
22:50 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:50 <wrtlprnft> imagine a smaller version of that, implemented as a slowly rotating deathzone
22:51 <epsy> :O
22:52  * epsy dépssé
22:52 <epsy> *a
22:52 <epsy> WD! Many typos!
22:52  * epsy lost
22:53 <epsy> and is the code...err clean ?
22:53 <wrtlprnft> dunno
22:53 <wrtlprnft> it's in the trunk
22:53 <wrtlprnft> and ph doesn't write dirty code :P
22:54 <epsy> are zone effects predefined in the code or they should be defined in the map ?
22:54 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2
22:55 <wrtlprnft> doesn't talk about polygons yet and may be a bit outdated, but it should be enough for someone who can't test it
22:55 <epsy> hmm
22:56 <epsy> did you read i wanted to port that delire nodelire thing to arma/c++ ?
22:57 <wrtlprnft> no
22:58 <epsy> so, now you know :)
22:58 <epsy> i'm now really confused
22:58 <epsy> should i start from zonesv2...
22:58 <epsy> or from zonesv1 ?
22:58 <wrtlprnft> what does that thing have to do with zones?
22:59 <epsy> modding
22:59 <wrtlprnft> your choice
22:59 <epsy> what would you recommed ? x)
22:59 <epsy> *n
23:00 <wrtlprnft> btw, do you like my new favicon?
23:00 <wrtlprnft> depends. if you actually want to host a real server with zones soon i'd suggest v1
23:00 <epsy> the bicolor bike's nice yeah
23:01 <wrtlprnft> multicolor :)
23:01 <epsy> OooO testing for now :)
23:01 <wrtlprnft> already got yellow, red, blue, green, cyan and magenta for other armagetronad sites :D
23:02 <epsy> but sincerely(?) i think adding modding ability to the effects...
23:02 <epsy> could be greatly AWESOME
23:02 <epsy> (cam't wait i'm back to paris Oo )
23:03 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/colorcycles.png
23:05  * epsy is daltonian
23:05 <wrtlprnft> main wiki forums beta buildbot flyspray wrltlprnft.ath.cx, in that order
23:05 <epsy> half opf them are the same color for me xD
23:05 <wrtlprnft> well, it's not that important, just a nice guide in crowded tab bars
23:06 <wrtlprnft> they're blue yellow red cyan magenta green rainbow, in that order
23:07 <epsy> -.-'
23:07 <epsy> never heard of the keyhunt gameplay, wrtl ?
23:07 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:08 <epsy> doesn't exist (yet) in arma
23:08 <epsy> 3 team
23:08 <epsy> 3 keys
23:08 <epsy> the first team which has the 3 keys together gets the point
23:08 <epsy> (or the points*)
23:09 <epsy> simple, eh ?
23:09 <wrtlprnft> wow, the wikipedia article on color blindness links to the gay flag…
23:10 <epsy> :O ?
23:10 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daltonian#By_etiology
23:10 <wrtlprnft> first image on the right
23:11 <epsy> yup ?
23:12 <epsy> "The colors of the rainbow"
23:14 <wrtlprnft> weird rainbow
23:14 <epsy> :O xD
23:14 <epsy> well, i can't tell you...errr lol
23:26 <epsy> hmm
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> the exit velocity of a projectile launched from my son's cannon will be 1.09325/sqrt(m+0.012) , where m = mass in kilograms
23:28 <epsy> :O
23:28  * epsy is very intrested
23:28 <epsy> ***
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to aim for 15-20 gram projectiles when we start making those
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> but of course we hve to make the cannon first
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> (and he'll no doubt try other projectiles)
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> we're going to use a spring I took out of a staple gun
23:31 <epsy> you gonna kill sum1
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> are not
23:31 <epsy> :O
23:31 <epsy> you has not going to kill sum1 ?
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> the spring can only do 0.9 joules of work within the range of movement available to it
23:32 <epsy> :OO
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> of course, that's not measured from equilibrium, there's a little bit of tension on it all the time
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's not the spring that fires the staples, it's the spring that feeds the gun
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> so it's the weak spring from the staple gun
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> this is also not accounting for frictional forces from the barrel of the gun, so all in all it should be a pretty safe cannon
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> as safe as cannons can be, of course
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02:57 <DrJoeTron> so hye
02:58 <DrJoeTron> why is tronner here
02:58 <DrJoeTron> fuck that bot
02:58 <DrJoeTron> get rid of it
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03:15 <digitx> oha
03:56 <digitx> bye all.. good night
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04:02 <DrJoeTron> hi
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04:12 <Lucifer_arma> bye
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06:17 <MrBougo> helo
06:19 <MrBougo> P4z: why "p4z" ?
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09:17 <eddiefantastic> hi philippeqc great work on zones v2
09:17 <MrBougo> hello
09:18 <eddiefantastic> hi MrBougo
09:18 <MrBougo> :p
09:18 <eddiefantastic> I will get my head around it one day
09:18 <MrBougo> the sound notification surprized me
09:18 <philippeqc> eddiefantastic: thanks!
09:18 <MrBougo> i've been in full silence for 30 minutes, only the computer fans :p
09:18 <eddiefantastic> sound notification huh? I'd turn that off
09:18 <philippeqc> have you tried it?
09:18 <MrBougo> eddiefantastic: heh, why?
09:18 <eddiefantastic> yes I have doors that open with a zone
09:19 <MrBougo> i'm pretty busy, so i dont want to check for new messages every minute
09:19 <philippeqc> nice, have you put that map online?
09:19 <MrBougo> lolz, doors that open with a zong
09:19 <MrBougo> zone*
09:19 <eddiefantastic> no, it's on a machine at work
09:19 <philippeqc> o ok
09:19 <MrBougo> you should updates the binaries :(
09:19 <eddiefantastic> I need to do more work on it
09:19 <MrBougo> because i dont want to compile everything
09:19 <eddiefantastic> I'm trying to get them to close
09:20 <eddiefantastic> you know, while I'm in the zone, they open, if I leave they close
09:20 <MrBougo> heh, zones V2 is gonna change all the tron gameplay
09:20 <philippeqc> MrBougo: Making binaries at the moment isn't such a good idea. When connecting to an old fortress server, the client dies immediatly. When connecting to a new zone server, you dont receive the updates. The only thing that works at the moment is local play
09:21 <MrBougo> and crazy tronners will have lots of different maps with interesting concepts
09:21 <MrBougo> oh ok phi
09:21 <philippeqc> eddiefantastic: put a drift on the zone that opens them
09:21 <eddiefantastic> Well Crazy Tronners will have to create a new server
09:21 <MrBougo> are you going to make it official? i mean make an official update
09:21 <philippeqc> yes it is in the development line.
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> 0.3.1 at some point
09:21 <MrBougo> zones V2 can replace zones V1 right?
09:21 <MrBougo> oh nice
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09:22 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully soon
09:22 <MrBougo> about 0.3...
09:22 <philippeqc> that is the point to replace them
09:22 <MrBougo> i've once tried 0.3
09:22 <MrBougo> i was totally disgusted xD
09:22 <MrBougo> i should try again
09:22 <MrBougo> ima try it
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> that was pretty useless feedback, MrBougo (hi there!) , do you think we're ugly too?
09:22 <MrBougo> yep!
09:22 <MrBougo> xD
09:23 <MrBougo> nah i was disgusted about the sounds
09:23 <MrBougo> and the camera
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09:23 <Lucifer_arma> ?  same sounds....
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> (except there's no cycle sound)
09:23 <eddiefantastic> you can change the cam
09:23 <MrBougo> err nope the sounds were different
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh, yeah, there's the announcer
09:23 <MrBougo> and i was too lazy to change the cam
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> nope, the other sounds were the same
09:23 <eddiefantastic> who is the accouncer?
09:23 <MrBougo> no way
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> some guy who dropped the clips off in a drive by
09:23 <philippeqc> MrBougo: I didnt like the new cam at first, but soon got used on it. Now I have trouble going back to the old one.
09:24 <MrBougo> how can i install arma 0.3 with arma 0.2.8 at the same time
09:24 <MrBougo> with different config files
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I forgot his name, but he never came back to add more, so we need a new announcer
09:24 <MrBougo> hwat i didnt like was the glance speed i think
09:24 <eddiefantastic> 2020 will do it ;)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> MrBougo: there's a setting for that
09:24  * philippeqc thought it was luci's voice
09:24 <MrBougo> yup Lucifer_arma
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> haha, no
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> my voice is a bit higher :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering getting my 8yo girl to be the announcer
09:25 <MrBougo> wtf
09:25 <MrBougo> that would be crazy
09:25 <philippeqc> neat! fits in the techno theme of the game
09:26 <MrBougo> i should backup my config before updating
09:26 <MrBougo> can i update from à.2 or do i have to uninstall first?
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> you should, but 0.3.0 uses its own special config file so it doesn't harm a 0.2.8 installation
09:27 <MrBougo> oh ok
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> er, that "you should" was for the other line
09:27 <MrBougo> yup
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> 0.2.8 and 0.3.0 can live side by side without fighting with each other
09:27 <MrBougo> nice
09:27 <MrBougo> they'll use the same folders, right?
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> um, in windows, not sure about linux
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think they'll use exactly the same directories
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> configs will be kept in the same place, but the install directory is different...
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> (assuming windows now)
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> (and quietly pointing out I don't use windows, so could be wrong about some things)
09:28 <philippeqc> MrBougo: make a backup of your 0.2.8, install 0.3, then check if 0.2.8 is still intact
09:28 <MrBougo> yup
09:28 <MrBougo> only had to backup the user.cfg heh
09:29 <MrBougo> whoops
09:29 <MrBougo> should've installed it somewhere else
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> heh, oops
09:29 <MrBougo> armagetronad.exe, same bin name :p
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, when you reinstall 0.2.8, you can just put *it* somewhere else nd everything should be fine, riht?  ;)
09:30 <MrBougo> i uninstalled everything now
09:30 <MrBougo> i want a clean install :p
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm grabbing a smoke and collecting a few things from outside that I don't want rained, and then going to bed
09:39 <MrBougo> hehe, funny theme
09:39 <MrBougo> err... my settings are already ok
09:39 <philippeqc> goodnight Lucifer_arma !
09:39 <MrBougo> did it use user.cfg?
09:39 <philippeqc> You tell us.
09:39 <MrBougo> heh, the turning sound isnt the same
09:39 <MrBougo> and the splode too
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> the turning sound was made by following z-man's directions, it might be a tad off
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I did use a different explosion
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> same guy that did the announcer modded the explosion sound, and I accientally committed his and then decided to keep it
09:39  * Lucifer_arma forgot about that, but it's been so long since he played with 0.2.8...
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, moving on, bbl (or tomorrow, or whenever)
09:39 <MrBougo> the camera is too low for me
09:39 <MrBougo> too slow too...
09:39 <MrBougo> where can i get a camera config similar to 0.2.8?
09:39 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: no clue about this?
09:39 <MrBougo> i don't know much about custom camera
09:43 <MrBougo> i really dont like the new camera, glance just isnt the same
09:45 <MrBougo> :(
09:45 <MrBougo> and you can't maze at all
09:46 <MrBougo> it's way too smooth, and when you release the key it doesnt come back like i 2.8
09:46 <MrBougo> i hope this will get fixed
09:46 <MrBougo> bye
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10:03  * Lucifer_arma grumbles about not fixing things that aren't broke
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11:10 <itsamemario> hey
11:10 <itsamemario> buddies
11:10 <itsamemario> i just switched to ubuntu
11:10 <itsamemario> if anyone knows how to install armagetron ad 3.0 on ubuntu please el
11:10 <itsamemario> thanks
11:10 <itsamemario> help*
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11:25 <MrBougo> hello
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14:24 <MrBougo> hello
14:24 <Monkey_> hi
14:24 <MrBougo> is there any way to make the camera of 0.3 act like in 0.2.8
14:25 <wrtlprnft> not without patching
14:26 <MrBougo> bah :(
14:26 <MrBougo> because i hate how glancing acts
14:26 <wrtlprnft> get used to it
14:26 <MrBougo> the keydown is okay
14:26 <MrBougo> but the keyup is terrible
14:27 <MrBougo> :(
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14:30 <MrBougo> where on my drive is the old cycle_turn sound
14:30 <MrBougo> it isnt in the install dir of .2.8
14:31 <wrtlprnft> there's a cycle_turn sound?
14:33 <MrBougo> aargh
14:33 <MrBougo> why is there a cycle_run in the install dir
14:33 <MrBougo> when it isnt used by the game
14:33 <MrBougo> i miss that little sound :(
14:33 <MrBougo> yep wrtlprnft
14:33 <wrtlprnft> probably because Lucifer_arma is planning on using it some day?
14:33 <MrBougo> on 0.3 there's a cycle_turn in /sounds
14:33 <MrBougo> it's empty, wrtlprnft
14:33 <MrBougo> it's an empty ogg
14:35 <wrtlprnft> ?
14:35 <MrBougo> yup
14:35 <MrBougo> .ogg file
14:35 <wrtlprnft> if i play it back it plays the normal sound
14:36 <MrBougo> you know
14:36 <MrBougo> huuuh
14:36 <MrBougo> heh right
14:36 <MrBougo> what the
14:38 <MrBougo> so why dont i hear it ingame...
14:39 <wrtlprnft> because it's somewhat special
14:39 <wrtlprnft> the old engine modified it so it sounded different at different cycle speeds
14:40 <MrBougo> heh, i dont hear any sound, except the explode and turn sounds
14:40 <MrBougo> i dont hear any grind, any cycle run or what else
14:41 <MrBougo> i think something's wrong there
14:41 <MrBougo> or it isnt implemented yet
14:41 <wrtlprnft> isn't implemented yet
14:41 <MrBougo> ooh ok
14:41  * wrtlprnft pokes Lucifer_arma #
14:41 <MrBougo> but why no grind
14:42 <MrBougo> they've implemented a grind event, right, with sparks
14:42 <MrBougo> so from there it isnt difficult to implement grind sound, right?
14:42 <MrBougo> bah
14:42 <MrBougo> i miss the old glance engine
14:42 <MrBougo> why did it change... absolute angle was way better than relative :(
14:43 <wrtlprnft> probably because the grind sound has the same problem
14:43 <MrBougo> errr
14:43 <MrBougo> what problem?
14:43 <wrtlprnft> you want it to sound different at higher speeds
14:43 <MrBougo> does it also sound different when speed changes?
14:43 <MrBougo> oh
14:43 <MrBougo> oh ok
14:43 <MrBougo> that explains everything
14:43 <MrBougo> except the glance engine
14:44 <MrBougo> it's to smooth
14:44 <MrBougo> it's more beautiful than useful
14:44  * wrtlprnft thinks it's useful
14:44 <MrBougo> that smooth moves?
14:44 <wrtlprnft> but my settings are somewhat special
14:44 <wrtlprnft> i doesn't move at all for me
14:44 <MrBougo> err
14:44 <MrBougo> i dont get it
14:44 <MrBougo> you play it like a snake game? :p
14:45  * digitx is away (bye)
14:45 <wrtlprnft> the camera doesn't turn by itself with my config, and pressing the glance keys rotates it by 90/180/270 degrees
14:45 <MrBougo> aah
14:45 <MrBougo> i couldnt play with these settings :p
14:45 <wrtlprnft> no animation at all
14:45 <MrBougo> oh
14:45 <MrBougo> so you agree with me
14:46 <MrBougo> these smooth moves arent useful
14:46 <wrtlprnft> they weren't useful in 0.2.8, either
14:46 <MrBougo> yup
14:46 <MrBougo> but they were still playable
14:47 <MrBougo> that "smart" cam was smarter in 0.2.8
14:47 <wrtlprnft> i don't really know the camera code, sorry
14:47 <MrBougo> smart cam is default :p
14:47 <wrtlprnft> that i know
14:47 <MrBougo> heh, you cant have a different cycle/trail color with 0.3? :(
14:47 <MrBougo> :(((
14:48 <MrBougo> nevermind
14:48 <wrtlprnft> you can.
14:48 <MrBougo> i thought that you couldnt because i was all white
14:48 <MrBougo> but i went into the player settings
14:48 <MrBougo> so it all went to 15
14:49 <wrtlprnft> that's normal
14:50 <MrBougo> ok, ima make my own custom cam
14:50 <MrBougo> there are only few settings, right
14:51 <wrtlprnft> quite a few
14:51 <wrtlprnft> #cfg camera
14:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK: Position of the custom camera: how much is it moved back from the cycle? (default: 6) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: 0.5) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_PITCH: Position of the custom camera: how much does it look up/down? (default: -0.58) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE: Position of the custom (14 more messages)
14:51 <MrBougo> haha
14:51 <MrBougo> "quite a few"
14:52 <MrBougo> 14 more messages
14:52 <wrtlprnft> #cfg camera_custom
14:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK: Position of the custom camera: how much is it moved back from the cycle? (default: 6) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK_FROMSPEED: This value is multiplied with the current speed and added to CAMERA_CUSTOM_BACK. (default: 0.5) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_PITCH: Position of the custom camera: how much does it look up/down? (default: -0.58) || CAMERA_CUSTOM_RISE: Position of the custom (2 more messages)
14:52 <wrtlprnft> that's better
14:52 <MrBougo> i know there are settings for all 4 players
14:52 <MrBougo> oh not even,
14:56 <MrBougo> there should be a dependant setting for camera angular speed when glance is released
15:03 <MrBougo> i'm sure that it could be way better
15:04 <MrBougo> i cant play with it
15:04 <MrBougo> turns too fast.......
15:05 <MrBougo> bah, i'm back to 0.2.8
15:05 <MrBougo> i hope that it will be imporved
15:07 <MrBougo> now this feels better
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15:30 <MrBougo> ew
15:30 <MrBougo> i read "horney" instead of "monkey"
15:30 <MrBougo> ooh, a storm
15:30 <MrBougo> :D
15:30 <MrBougo> thunderstorm i mean
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16:00 <spidey> dude
16:00 <spidey> has anyone ever slept on there arm so long, it felt like it wasn't there?
16:00 <spidey> i woke up and my arm was sooo dead xD
16:00 <spidey> couldn't move it...couldn't feel it...i freaked out for a second xD
16:09 <MrBougo> ha spidey
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16:10 <MrBougo> i've had some crazy stuff like that
16:10 <MrBougo> but i could still feel it and move it
16:10 <MrBougo> but it felt crazy though
16:10 <MrBougo> like we say in french, "i had like ants in it"
16:10 <MrBougo> hello luke-jr_work
16:11 <MrBougo> dont worry, we're talking about spidey's hat
16:11 <MrBougo> err arm
16:11 <MrBougo> why did i typo hat
16:11 <MrBougo> ok i'm out
16:11 <MrBougo> #monologue
16:11 <armabot> MrBougo: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
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17:32 <MrBougo> hello
17:32 <Vanhayes> #tea
17:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): Devonk, Emo From Rome, Gonzap, Ill, Monkey, Showerguy, t1, [KEWLNESS]-AEA, ~*Sp*~ d3m0n, ~*wHaTuP*~, ~|DS|~sunny, ¦×¥Rico
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17:55 <Stempo> wrtl!
17:55 <Stempo> wrtl need you!
17:55 <Stempo> I*
17:55 <spidey> lol
17:56 <Stempo> SPIDEY!
17:56 <Stempo> hey long time no see
17:56 <spidey> imposter :D
17:56 <Stempo> you are? O.o
17:56 <spidey> lol...
17:56  * Stempo pokes spidey
17:57 <Stempo> you seem real enough
17:57 <spidey> O.o
17:57  * spidey stabs Stempo 
17:57 <Stempo> :O
17:57  * Stempo blasts spidey's head off with a shotgun
17:57 <Stempo> :-D
17:57 <spidey> cheat
17:57  * spidey turns godmode on
17:57 <spidey> pwn
17:57 <Stempo> lol
17:58 <Stempo> I already blew your head off!
17:58 <spidey> i turned godmode on as soon as you picked the gun up
17:58 <spidey> i mean, who trusts a female with a gun anyways?
17:58 <Stempo> ummm.... me?
17:58 <spidey> you're a female, you doesn't count
17:59 <Vanhayes> hmm, luke-jr is rubbing off on you spidey
17:59 <Stempo> glad to know you finally admitted I'm female!
17:59 <spidey> i hardly talk to him :p
17:59 <Stempo> Hi Van
17:59 <spidey> did i admit that? :o my bad ;D
17:59 <spidey> we all know you're a 60 y/o man :>
17:59 <Stempo> lol
17:59 <Stempo> 65!
17:59 <Vanhayes> hello
17:59 <Stempo> jeez
17:59 <spidey> sorry :/
18:00 <Stempo> and overweight
18:00 <Stempo> and look like Luci
18:00 <Stempo> jk
18:00 <spidey> haha
18:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, better check the 65y/o man :p
18:00 <Stempo> lol
18:00  * Stempo hides
18:00 <Stempo> (behind spidey so he'll get blown up first)
18:01 <Vanhayes> spidey: graduate yet?
18:01 <spidey> but you still die, so i still win :>
18:01 <Stempo> pfffft
18:01 <MrBougo> tffffp
18:01 <Stempo> spidey and graduate shouldn't go in the same sentence
18:01 <Stempo> AHHHH!
18:01 <Stempo> Hi MrB
18:01 <MrBougo> STEMPOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:01 <MrBougo> WASSUP?
18:01 <spidey> Vanhayes, close
18:02 <MrBougo> BEEN A WHILE MAN
18:02 <spidey> in 12th grade now :)
18:02 <Vanhayes> but no cigar?
18:02 <Stempo> WOMAN!
18:02 <Vanhayes> ah, ok
18:02 <MrBougo> who are you Stempo
18:02 <Stempo> Genki
18:02 <MrBougo> um
18:02 <MrBougo> yep i know you
18:02 <Stempo> you do? O.o
18:02 <MrBougo> err well
18:02 <MrBougo> i mean
18:02 <MrBougo> i think i've once played with you
18:02  * Vanhayes will be oficiallly  a high school graduate next thursday
18:02 <Stempo> lol
18:02 <Stempo> haha
18:02 <MrBougo> gratz van
18:02 <Stempo> gratz Van
18:02 <spidey> awe, you beat me :(
18:02 <Vanhayes> thanks
18:02 <MrBougo> gratz van
18:03 <spidey> i probably won't till august/december :/
18:03 <Vanhayes> only took 5 years too :/
18:03 <Stempo> heh
18:03  * MrBougo will be officially living next thursday
18:03 <spidey> lol
18:03  * MrBougo hopes so
18:03 <Stempo> lol
18:03 <MrBougo> :p
18:03 <Stempo> it's ok Van I still have 2 more years!
18:03 <Stempo> well... technically one if I try
18:03 <Stempo> but that ain't gonna happen with tron
18:03 <Vanhayes> trying is overrated
18:04 <spidey> who tries?
18:04 <Stempo> at what?
18:04 <Stempo> life?
18:04 <Vanhayes> at school
18:04 <Vanhayes> life is easy, no need to try
18:04 <spidey> lol
18:04 <spidey> it is for now :p
18:05 <Stempo> MrB do you play as MrB?
18:05 <Stempo> in tron
18:05 <Stempo> arma
18:05 <Stempo> w/e
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18:06 <Stempo> heya
18:06 <sunnygirl> Hey
18:06 <Stempo> join the party
18:06 <Stempo> over there --->
18:06 <sunnygirl> lol? :P
18:07 <Stempo> over there -----> Luci, Todd, Van, MrB
18:07 <spidey> we're the outcasts
18:07 <Stempo> spidey's over here
18:07 <Stempo> yeah
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18:09 <Stempo> she left us spidey
18:09 <Stempo> we should embrace and cry our eyes out
18:09 <Stempo> lol
18:10 <spidey> ...
18:10 <Stempo> :-D
18:10 <Stempo> come come, hug time!
18:10 <spidey> ...
18:10 <Stempo> ...
18:10 <spidey> maybe later, my win2k download's almost dine :d
18:11 <Stempo> lol
18:11 <spidey> s/dine/doone
18:11 <spidey> done! -.-
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18:12 <Stempo> spidey!
18:12 <Stempo> I missed you!
18:12 <spidey> ...
18:12 <Stempo> where ya been buddy?
18:12 <Stempo> lol
18:12 <spidey> you're starting to scare me :/
18:12 <Stempo> just starting?
18:12 <Stempo> well that's messed up
18:12 <Stempo> all my efforts over the months
18:13 <Stempo> and I'm JUST STARTING to scare you
18:13 <spidey> that was trying?
18:13 <spidey> you're pathetic :d
18:13 <Stempo> no not really
18:13 <Stempo> lol
18:13 <MrBougo> Stempo: i play as Mr. Bougo
18:14 <Vanhayes> trying to scare spidey would be saying things like: "you look good in pink tank tops" or something like that
18:14 <Stempo> lol
18:14 <Vanhayes> that would frighten me anyway
18:14 <Stempo> haha
18:14 <Stempo> Spidey Van says you look good in pink tank tops
18:14 <spidey> indeed
18:14 <Stempo> can I have a picture?
18:14 <Stempo> lol
18:14 <spidey> ...
18:15 <spidey> maybe later
18:15 <Stempo> ok
18:15  * Stempo thinks spidey doesn't have the chest to pull off a pink tank top
18:15 <Stempo> :-D
18:16 <spidey> that'd make 2 of us who don't have the chest to pull it off :>
18:16 <spidey> burn! :D
18:17 <Vanhayes> bad dum pish
18:17 <spidey> english?
18:18 <Stempo> french?
18:19 <Vanhayes> espanol?
18:19 <Stempo> Thai?
18:19 <Stempo> Tagalog?
18:24 <Stempo> where's Todd to do the "I killed chat dance"
18:27  * Stempo sneaks off to play tron
18:27 <Stempo> if any of you see wrtl tell him I need him
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19:01 <CTF> Hey
19:01  * digitx is away (bye)
19:01 <CTF> I just had a quick question?
19:01 <CTF> Is Armagetronad.net news supported by RSS?
19:01 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so
19:01 <CTF> 02that's what I thought
19:02 <CTF> thanks
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19:16 <vinavil> is anyone experienced with xorg.conf syntax?
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19:29 <MrBougo> hihoo
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19:31 <vinavil> hi
19:31 <MrBougo> hiuhoo
19:33 <Monkey_> hi
19:33 <Monkey_> i am reading the forums ;)
19:43 <vinavil> when 0.2.8.3 is it expected to be relesed?
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20:06 <wrtlprnft> vinavil: good question
20:07 <Stempo> wrtl!
20:07 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:07 <Stempo> heya ^_^
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20:21 <epsy> hi
20:21 <wrtlprnft> ih
20:22 <epsy> :O
20:22 <epsy> gonna go in a few seconds
20:23 <wrtlprnft> O:
20:23 <MrBougo> epsy :D
20:23 <MrBougo> helo
20:23 <wrtlprnft> gonna go in a few seconds
20:23 <wrtlprnft> err
20:24 <Stempo> seconds is a figurative term :-D
20:24 <wrtlprnft> sdnoces wef a ni og annog
20:24 <Stempo> or relative...
20:24 <wrtlprnft> /exec -o echo gonna go in a few seconds | rev
20:24  * wrtlprnft loves unix
20:24 <MrBougo> xD
20:24 <MrBougo> /exec -o yes gonna go in a few seconds
20:24  * MrBougo loves unix too
20:25 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: you don't want to execute that
20:25 <MrBougo> and if i do it wont work
20:25  * MrBougo uses windows D:
20:25 <wrtlprnft> it will probably spam the channel till you get kicked
20:25  * vinavil loves solaris (even if most of his hardware is not supported and this cause arma to run at 10fps and bad ping)
20:25 <MrBougo> or till i do /execkill
20:26 <wrtlprnft> /exec format c:
20:27 <MrBougo> might work
20:27 <MrBougo> and -o so you can enjoy it withme
20:27 <wrtlprnft> :D
20:28 <epsy> :O wrtl, you're reversing quotes now ?
20:28 <wrtlprnft> it will probably ask
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
20:28 <epsy> lol
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
20:28 <wrtlprnft> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
20:28 <wrtlprnft> ? won setouq gnisrever er'uoy ,ltrw O:
20:28 <wrtlprnft> finally
20:28 <epsy> this comp is laggying
20:28 <MrBougo> xD
20:29 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft can't handle unix
20:29 <epsy> it's compiling a video
20:29 <epsy> :O
20:29  * wrtlprnft can't handle '
20:29 <epsy> :O
20:30 <wrtlprnft> g++ -Wall /dev/camera -o ~/video.ogg
20:30 <epsy> :O
20:30 <mkzelda> vinavil: I run gentoo on my U10 :D
20:30 <epsy> for remember wrtl, again, this is not  ainux pc
20:31 <epsy> so cu now
20:31 <epsy> :O
20:31 <Stempo> cu
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20:31 <Stempo> later
20:32 <Stempo> alligator
20:32 <wrtlprnft> can we use a more OSS friendly reptile?
20:32 <wrtlprnft> like a python?
20:32 <Stempo> lol
20:32 <Stempo> yeah!
20:33 <Stempo> python = <3
20:36 <Stempo> what kinda python?
20:38 <MrBougo> gecko
20:38 <MrBougo> nope
20:38 <MrBougo> mmh
20:39 <Stempo> heh my nickname is gecko
20:39 <MrBougo> mine is dinosaur
20:39  * MrBougo eats a gecko
20:39 <Stempo> :O
20:39 <MrBougo> err
20:39 <MrBougo> ping wikipedia.org
20:40 <mkzelda> how do you make pyc's from python code?
20:40 <MrBougo> #ping wikipedia.org
20:40 <armabot> pong
20:40 <MrBougo> argh
20:40  * MrBougo dies
20:40 <Stempo> :O
20:41 <Stempo> wrtl do CPR!
20:41 <MrBougo> somethings wrong with wikipeida
20:41 <MrBougo> was*
20:41 <MrBougo> is again*
20:42 <Stempo> O.o
20:42  * Stempo doesn't understand MrB
20:42 <MrBougo> just go to en.wikipedia.org
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20:42 <vinavil> mkzelda: indeed, i'll finally look for a second hand sun workstation.
20:42 <MrBougo> oh its back now
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20:43 <MrBougo> and its lagging again
20:43 <MrBougo> wikipedia has server problems...
20:43 <Stempo> works fine for me
20:43 <Stempo> heh
20:45 <Stempo> wikipedia = <3
20:47 <wrtlprnft> Stempo = <§ ?
20:47 <wrtlprnft> err
20:47 <wrtlprnft> Stempo = <3 ?
20:47 <mkzelda> vinavil: I'm very happy w/ gentoo-sparc. I have the Sun proprietary drivers/firmware loaded for my Creator3D, so I have some form of accelerated X. e17 is perfect for a machine that old/slow, really brings new life to it
20:47 <_Sticky_> hay genk
20:48 <Stempo> STICKY!
20:48 <Stempo> heya ^_^
20:48 <_Sticky_> hi
20:48 <_Sticky_> hows it going
20:48 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what kind of heart disease do you have?
20:49 <Stempo> O.O
20:49 <MrBougo> <§
20:50 <wrtlprnft> well
20:50 <wrtlprnft> my heart is too big, you know?
20:50 <wrtlprnft> shift-3 = § on this keyboard
20:50 <MrBougo> shift-3 = 3 on mine
20:50 <MrBougo> euopean keyb :p
20:50 <MrBougo> oh riiight
20:50 <Stempo> 3 = 3 on mine
20:50 <MrBougo> i didnt understand
20:50 <MrBougo> bah
20:50 <Stempo> hehe
20:51 <MrBougo> mine would go <"
20:51 <wrtlprnft> " is above 2 here
20:51 <MrBougo> é is under 2 here
20:51 <wrtlprnft> eek
20:51 <_Sticky_> shift 3 = £
20:51 <wrtlprnft> french keyboards
20:51 <Stempo> hehe
20:52 <MrBougo> shift g = G
20:52 <Stempo> xD
20:52 <MrBougo> Xd
20:52 <Stempo> O.o
20:52 <wrtlprnft> shift shift = SHIFT
20:52 <Stempo> lol
20:53 <MrBougo> eft shift + right shift = left shift = right shift
20:53 <MrBougo> = 0
20:53 <Stempo> eft = left
20:53 <MrBougo> heh no, mrbougo != 0
20:53 <Stempo> :-D
20:53 <MrBougo> eft = left so l = 1
20:54 <wrtlprnft> if left = eft then l=''
20:54 <Stempo> I don't even know what we're talking about anymore
20:54 <vinavil> shift+esc = arma cheats list
20:54 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft: what are you talking about
20:55 <MrBougo> vinavil: and to get infinite rubber press all the f keys at the ame time
20:55 <vinavil> yea
20:55 <vinavil> unfortunately it is unbound
20:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/QUARG/rubber/4rooms-1.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
20:56 <wrtlprnft> if you have a buggy display driver it helps to set your arma resolution to something != your desktop res and press f for a couple of seconds
20:56 <_Sticky_> try hloding alt then typing 007 into the keypad
20:56 <wrtlprnft> or a CRT, for that matter. They like to break if you keep changing resolutions
20:56 <MrBougo> _Sticky_: ???
20:56 <MrBougo> what is it supposed to do
20:56 <Stempo> it doesn't work :O
20:57 <vinavil> i don't use full screen
20:57 <Stempo> nothing!
20:57 <MrBougo> bye all
20:57 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:57 <MrBougo> have a nice night :)
20:57 <_Sticky_> on windows systems (and in the right window) it should make a system beep
20:57 <MrBougo> it doesnt
20:57 <_Sticky_> try it into a cmd window
20:57 <MrBougo> aaaargh
20:58 <MrBougo> my eaaaars
20:58 <MrBougo> j/k
20:58 <MrBougo> it went silent
20:58 <MrBougo> tried echo ^G too, didnt work
20:58 <MrBougo> bye :p
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20:58 <wrtlprnft> 
20:58 <wrtlprnft> a bell character is following → 
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20:58 <wrtlprnft> probably won't be played back
20:58 <_Sticky_> well holding alt should allow you to type in a number and it will then type the ascii didgit when you release alt
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20:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i know
20:59 <_Sticky_> ahh mrbougo has left
20:59 <Stempo> really O.O
20:59 <G5_Ger> Hi
20:59 <Stempo> hi
20:59 <_Sticky_> yeah
20:59 <wrtlprnft> bell char = ^G = ASCII char 0x7 on linux
21:00  * wrtlprnft still loves the speedup he gets if he holds alt and prinscreen and pushes 'b' under linux
21:01 <_Sticky_> can be handy for typing the x in the clan symbol
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21:02 <_Sticky_> naa ctrl-alt-d is the best linux shortcut
21:02 <wrtlprnft> what's that supposed to do?
21:02  * Stempo has never SEEN a linux, let alone used one
21:02 <wrtlprnft> ¦¦¦××צ¦¦ ← those chars are on my keyboard…
21:02 <_Sticky_> minimise all (kde)
21:03 <_Sticky_> heh the x isnt on mine
21:03 <wrtlprnft> hmm, my kde doesn't do anything
21:03 <wrtlprnft> probably disabled it
21:03 <wrtlprnft> try right alt + , on a german keyboard
21:03 <Stempo> CU!
21:03 <wrtlprnft> cya
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21:26 <IDSolar> Hey Guys
21:26 <Monkey_> hi
21:26 <IDSolar> Whats new?
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21:32 <vinavil> mkzelda: any suggestion?
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-1000-Dual-750Mhz-1GB-18GB-Workstation-2000_W0QQitemZ110138568463QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11224QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-2000-Workstation-900MHz-2GB-73GB-XVR-500_W0QQitemZ280125711988QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:32 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Blade-2000-900Mhz-1GB-RAM-18GB-Workstation-PGX64-PC_W0QQitemZ110138625610QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11224QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:33 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-60-Dual-450Mhz-2GB-18GB-Workstation-Tested_W0QQitemZ110138520384QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:33 <vinavil> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-60-Creator-3D-Workstation-450MHz-1GG-36GB_W0QQitemZ180129707336QQihZ008QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/QUARG/rubber/wormhole-3.aamap.xml: Resource by QUARG
21:40 <vinavil> QUARG is on fire tonight
21:45 <Monkey_> clear
21:45 <mkzelda> vinavil: the answer relies heavily on what you want to do w/ the machine
21:47 <mkzelda> but if gentoo-sparc is something you're interested in, I suggest checking the topic in #gentoo-sparc to find the compatibility list
21:47 <mkzelda> im about to walk out the door so i cant be of much more help atm
21:48 <Monkey_> mkzelda hi
21:48 <vinavil> mkzelda: be able to run Solaris 10, JDS, Armagetronad and a browser mainly
21:49 <vinavil> and no, im not interested in gentoo/sparc, i'll run solaris
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21:49 <G5_Ger> mkzelda: got your msg (from days ago) ... better talk to money on afl ...
21:49 <Monkey_> mkzelda goto #arma-ladle
21:49 <G5_Ger> monkey I mean
21:50 <Monkey_> i wish i was money, believe me
21:50 <Monkey_> i would spend myself
21:50 <epsy> join #arma-ladle
21:50 <Monkey_> hi eps
21:50 <vinavil> just go to the zoo and make money
21:51 <mkzelda> G5_Ger: already taken care of, thanks
21:52 <mkzelda> vinavil: running arma will be the tricky part
21:53 <mkzelda> creator 3d's just wont cut it
21:53 <vinavil> mkzelda: what do you mean?
21:53 <mkzelda> the vid cards are the problem
21:53 <vinavil> well, some nvidia are supported
21:54 <mkzelda> the ultra series have pci slots, u can throw an nvidia 5500 on there (the best pci card)
21:54 <mkzelda> for about $45-55 for one of those on ebay
21:54 <vinavil> good
21:55 <vinavil> well, i'll find a way, but i want a sparc and solaris, and that is it :D
21:55 <vinavil> thx for help
21:55 <mkzelda> np
21:55 <mkzelda> i like that blade 2000
21:55 <mkzelda> at $450
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21:59 <vinavil> you mean the one at $350?
22:08 <Monkey_> i have a problem with the cycle mods (.ase) files.
22:10  * epsy doesn't know where to put ase files
22:11 <Monkey_> i followed instructions. i downloaded moviepack, installed it. i tried several ways of putting .ase cycle file into folder. none worked. i got version .2.8.2.1
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> .ase files only go with moviepacks
22:11 <epsy> vinavil knows about it i think
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_: did the moviepack work otherwise?
22:11 <Monkey_> i tried without moviepack (i made folder),  i even tried changing files to mods
22:11 <Monkey_> yes
22:12 <Monkey_> i spoke to rain )vinavil) in depth but he couldnt either
22:12 <epsy> (maybe the ase file you're using is like the default one ?)
22:12 <vinavil> you have to put cycle.ase in Moviepack folder
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> ase only works inside a moviepack, so first make sure you have a moviepack running
22:13 <Monkey_> i have
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22:13 <Monkey_> i got the classic running and it works
22:13 <Monkey_> but not cycle
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> then, as vinavil says, put the ase model in the moviepack directory and it must be named cycle.ase
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> or there might be a different name, I forget
22:13 <Monkey_> when i changed the body mod to an empty file, there was no body, so im on the right lines...
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> try a moviepack that comes with a model, though :)
22:15 <Monkey_> i thought it had .mod files in it...maybe it didnt...hmm
22:15 <Monkey_> name me any one that has cycle in..
22:15 <Monkey_> you can find out without first downloadign
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> mine has a cycle in it
22:17 <Monkey_> both of them?
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Image:Lucifer-0_2.zip
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> I've only made two, and you already tried one of them (the classic moviepack)
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> er wait, it may not have its own model now that I read the description
22:19 <Monkey_> ok thanks i will do that...so there is a cycle in there as mod file or .ase? do i just stick it in the folder and it will all work nicely?
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> it should be .ase, that's what moviepacks are expected to have
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> there's a hack in 0.2.8 that'll let you leave out a model and it'll use the default model, so you can just texture the default model
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> that hack was made so the classic moviepack would work as expected
22:21 <Monkey_> ok cheers..right........so it should work and i wont have to alter settings.cfg or anything like that in moviepack folder?
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't
22:25 <Monkey_> thanks i will try it later tonight and see. i need the fps...and if rain is right, i will get some. i NEED the fps....
22:32 <epsy> #date
22:32 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
22:32 <epsy> EPSY LOOK HERE IN CHATLOGS
22:32 <epsy> -- °° --
22:32 <digitx> hi epsy
22:32 <digitx> nuub
22:32 <digitx> ^^
22:32 <digitx> mayn :D
22:45 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:46 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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22:50 <epsy> #t en fr microfilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: microfilters
22:50 <epsy> #wikipedia mircofilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.11 seconds)
22:50 <epsy> #wikipedia microfilters
22:50 <armabot> epsy: Search took 0.09 seconds: Microfiltration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfiltration>; BT Home Hub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Home_Hub>; Nissan Xterra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Xterra>
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23:51 <Monkey_> hi. lucifer, i tried your other moviepack and put the cycle in it. It does not work still. Both moviepacks have cycle png files in but no .ase files to start with.
23:51 <Monkey_> The moviepacks work fine otherwise tho...
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00:34 <deja_vu> spidey:
00:34 <spidey> deja_vu, ! :D
00:34 <deja_vu> :)
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06:25 <Stempo> #lastseen Legit
06:25 <armabot> Stempo: ¦Ö¦Legit has last been seen on Fortress Café 6 minutes ago.
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07:10 <spidey> <3 win2k :D
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07:15 <spide1> drwatson should teh die!
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09:39 <epsy> hay
10:22 <wrtlprnft> ph
10:22 <wrtlprnft> oops
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11:07 <wrtlprnft> hi :)
11:08 <wrtlprnft> ed wants me to tell you that he has some questions for you
11:08 <philippeqc> me?
11:08 <wrtlprnft> about zonesv2, he compiled it and played a bit with it
11:08 <wrtlprnft> yeah
11:08 <philippeqc> did ed left a list of question
11:08 <philippeqc> o nice
11:08 <philippeqc> I chatted with him yesterday (I think)
11:09 <wrtlprnft> he wanted to leave the map he was working on, but was in a hurry and didn't find it
11:09 <philippeqc> o ok
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11:12 <philippeqc> dont think I'll manage any coding this week end, so dont expect my list to shrink soon :(
11:13 <wrtlprnft> :(
11:14 <vinavil> :(
11:14 <philippeqc> vinavil: have you checked the current work??????
11:15 <philippeqc> it is very playable in single player mode.
11:15 <vinavil> philippeqc: hm?
11:16 <philippeqc> hm yes or hm no
11:16 <vinavil> hm <whatareyoutalkingabout>
11:17 <philippeqc> zones v2 current status
11:18 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: wrapper for shapes (http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=183091#183091), could you detail a bit more on this.
11:18 <vinavil> no, where do i check it?
11:19 <philippeqc> Is it just something that expose the network creator and update methods and maps them to similar methods in the shape
11:19 <philippeqc> vinavil: subversion, you need access to a compiler too.
11:19 <wrtlprnft> i was talking about making the shapes themselves not net objects at all
11:19 <philippeqc> vinavil: sorry, I was just thrown off by your sad smiley
11:20 <vinavil> philippeqc: i'm a simple human
11:20 <philippeqc> ok
11:20 <vinavil> lol
11:21 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: but how would they (the shapes) get created and updated?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> the compatibility layer would create them with a normal constructor call
11:21  * vinavil got the clue-bat
11:22 <wrtlprnft> and “real” shapes would be a new class that contains a shape and forwards all network stuff to it
11:22 <philippeqc> vinavil: Well, what cha waiting? Go get clubbing! (on 2020 and Rain)
11:23 <wrtlprnft> i'm bad at explaining things
11:23 <philippeqc> so the compatibility layer would be the one that appears as a net object
11:23 <wrtlprnft> nono!
11:24 <philippeqc> for operations between v2 client and servers
11:24 <wrtlprnft> there you'd have that extra class, right
11:25 <vinavil> philippeqc: vinavil is rain
11:25 <philippeqc> no way!
11:25 <wrtlprnft> #translate it en vinavil
11:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: vinavil
11:25 <philippeqc> why do people lie with nich
11:25 <wrtlprnft> #translate en it vinavil
11:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: vinavil
11:26 <wrtlprnft> #translate en it rain
11:26  * vinavil is a glue
11:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: pioggia
11:26 <philippeqc> #translate en it pizza
11:26 <armabot> philippeqc: pizza
11:26 <philippeqc> wow!
11:26 <vinavil> !
11:26 <philippeqc> ;)
11:26 <philippeqc> its the same word!
11:26 <vinavil> ...
11:27 <philippeqc> lemme try another one
11:27 <wrtlprnft> #translate en it pasta
11:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: pasta
11:27 <philippeqc> #translate en it spaghetti
11:27 <vinavil> LOL!
11:27 <armabot> philippeqc: spaghetti
11:27 <philippeqc> wow!
11:27 <philippeqc> italian borroed that word too ;)
11:27 <philippeqc> #translate en it potato
11:27 <vinavil> philippeqc: sure
11:27 <armabot> philippeqc: patata
11:27 <philippeqc> #translate fr it patate
11:27 <armabot> philippeqc: patata
11:28 <philippeqc> #translate se it potatis
11:28 <armabot> philippeqc: Error: "'se'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
11:28 <philippeqc> Boo, no swedish
11:29 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: anyways, my idea is that shapes aren't net objects if the server doesn't speak zones v2
11:29 <philippeqc> ok vinavil, good thing you got hit by the clue-bat.
11:29 <vinavil> philippeqc: could you give me again the links about c++? do you remember?
11:29 <wrtlprnft> #google c++ annotations
11:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.13 seconds: The C++ Annotations: <http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cplusplus/>; C++ Annotations: <http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cpp.shtml>; <center> C++ Annotations Version 5.0.0: <http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/language/cpp/cpptut/cplusplu.htm>; OOPWeb.com - C++ Annotations by Frank B. Brokken: (2 more messages)
11:29 <philippeqc> yes, shapes get to be only an internal object. When talking zones v1, the zone does the translation of the creation and the updates, and when talking v2, the wrapper does it.
11:30 <wrtlprnft> exactly :)
11:30 <wrtlprnft> the shape could have a normal handler/constructor for network messages, and the wrapper would just delegate it
11:30 <philippeqc> Ok, neat! That should work fine.
11:31 <wrtlprnft> :)
11:32 <philippeqc> Might take a month before I get to it. My mom is coming from Canada in 2 weeks for about 15 days.
11:32 <epsy> back
11:32 <philippeqc> hello epsy
11:33 <epsy> salut ph
11:33 <vinavil> hello
11:33 <philippeqc> You haven posted your script yet. I was curious about it
11:33 <epsy> delire nodelire ?
11:33 <vinavil> heh
11:33 <epsy> hayy rain
11:33 <epsy> *-y
11:34 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: maybe i'll have a shot
11:35 <wrtlprnft> at it
11:35 <wrtlprnft> #google translate at de test 123
11:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.13 seconds: Le Blog de Pierre: <http://pierre.sudarovich.free.fr/>; Translation Articles / Marketing Your Language Services / Test ...: <http://lav.proz.com/translation-articles/articles/326/1/Test-Translations---an-Update>; Williamson - English to Flemish translator . Translation services ...: <http://www.proz.com/profile/5146>; Workshop Shared Task: Statistical (3 more messages)
11:35 <wrtlprnft> #translate at de test 123
11:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: "'at'" is not a valid language.  Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish
11:35 <wrtlprnft> no Austrian :D
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11:38 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: that would be nice. FYI, the network update is still not implemented for the shapes. That is item #2 on the list IIRC
11:38 <philippeqc> epsy: avec delire svp
11:38 <wrtlprnft> not even for v2-v2?
11:39 <philippeqc> nope, that is what is blocking the network play (well, just making it though as you have to guess the state of zones)
11:39 <epsy> :D
11:39 <epsy> xian got an old copy of it
11:39 <epsy> the php version
11:42 <philippeqc> and it is somehow dependant on the choice of the object to use for the animation of the shapes (item #3). We can just cheat and make a simple implementation with tFucntions for the mean while, and then convert it all when we are decided on the internal mechanism
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11:42 <MrBougo> hello
11:43 <philippeqc> Hello Mr B.
11:43 <epsy> hay
11:43 <philippeqc> epsy: did you rewrite it in a new language?
11:43 <epsy> i'ill do it
11:43 <epsy> when i'm back to paris
11:43 <philippeqc> o ok
11:43 <philippeqc> nice!
11:44  * philippeqc falls to my knees and thank the Holy Goddess! 
11:44 <epsy> :O
11:44 <philippeqc> Finally, I've made it, I've actually managed to inspire someone to implement something so I dont have to myself.
11:45 <epsy> :O you did ?
11:45 <philippeqc> I'll be there to help you
11:45 <philippeqc> yes you!
11:45 <wrtlprnft> o_O
11:45 <epsy> :O
11:45 <epsy> err... just a question...zv2 is in trunk ?
11:45 <wrtlprnft> 1
11:46 <philippeqc> yes
11:46 <epsy> ok
11:46 <wrtlprnft> already said that
11:46 <philippeqc> 1
11:46 <epsy> wasn't sure about it
11:46 <epsy> :P
11:48 <philippeqc> Just be sure to read the latest from the laundry list to know what to expect to work
11:48 <epsy> do you know what inspired me ? :P
11:49 <philippeqc> I prefer not to push my luck and make you reflect on it... you might realise you are not inspired at all.
11:50 <philippeqc> But i'm all ears
11:50 <Monkey_> ive got a few questions on a different subject. I couldnt get the 8 poly cycle to work. i have tried just about everything. I am using moviepack with cycle already in. i have tried diff packs. i have tried "cycle.ase" "cycle.ASE",etc. Also, why are the moviepack directories GUID and why is there a "thumbs.db" in edd's pack?...
11:50 <epsy> well, at start another game inspired me
11:50 <philippeqc> Monkey_: the 8 poly cycle is not "moviepack" IIRC
11:50 <epsy> maybe digitx and mrbougo knows
11:50 <MrBougo> what?
11:51 <MrBougo> erhm epsy
11:51 <Monkey_> i know it is not. i got another pack and put it in it
11:51 <MrBougo> i dont
11:51 <Monkey_> that is what instructions say
11:51 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7302 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/eWall.cpp: Get rid of a doxygen warning
11:51 <epsy> d'où je tiens le !delire
11:52 <philippeqc> c'est quoi le nodelire?
11:52 <Monkey_> you need a moviepack already to put the 8 poly cycle in .."apparently"
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> there's a thumbs.db in edd's pack because he's a windows user, and windows puts that there when you browse a directory in a certain mode
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> then he just zipped the directory
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
11:52  * Lucifer_arma is going to bed
11:52 <Monkey_> ok so i wont worry about that
11:52 <epsy> !nodelire stops the delire .P
11:52 <philippeqc> Oo
11:52 <MrBougo> ah yes i know
11:52 <MrBougo> tremulous :)
11:53 <epsy> yup, on tremx
11:53 <MrBougo> !admintest, !delire and all are tremulous commands
11:53 <epsy> some admin said "!delire"
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> #google translate delire
11:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.09 seconds: February 7, 2006 : C'est quoi, ce délire ?! on Flickr - Photo Sharing!: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/hughes_leglise/97255202/in/set-72057594084915155/>; Translation délire paranoïaque in French-English dictionary: <http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/d%C3%A9lire%20parano%C3%AFaque>; JSTOR: The " Delire " of Translation: (3 more messages)
11:53 <epsy> and the player's speed and the global gravity were changed :P
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
11:53 <wrtlprnft> #translate fr en delire
11:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: delire
11:54 <wrtlprnft> …
11:54 <philippeqc> lol!
11:54 <Monkey_> #translate fr en microfilter
11:54 <armabot> Monkey_: microfilter
11:54 <epsy> mrbougo: this was only on tremx
11:54 <Monkey_> #translate en fr microfilter
11:54 <Lucifer_arma> #m Your_mom_arma a minor comment about xml that I missed in your terrain file.  You should use all lower case letters for tags.  I don't know what philippe was smoking when he capitalized tag names.
11:54 <armabot> Monkey_: microfilter
11:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
11:54 <epsy> monk: i think i found out what you meant
11:55 <epsy> i have only 1
11:55 <epsy> ...but i already tried with more
11:55 <epsy> ...which didn't worked right
11:55  * epsy stops arma
11:55 <Monkey_> you need a microfilter for everything u plug into your phone line EXCEPT adsl modem
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> ...where's tronner when you need him?
11:56 <philippeqc> epsy: on what server did that work (delire)
11:56 <epsy> on what tremulous server ? BRICOSOFT TremX
11:56 <epsy> monk: well, it looks like this :
11:57 <Monkey_> could the 8 poly cycle not be working because it need more or newer system libraries that normal arma does not need?
11:57 <epsy> phone input ----+--- ADSL modem
11:57 <epsy>                +--- phone
11:57 <epsy> where + is the adsl filter
11:57  * philippeqc is off to check what tremulous server are
11:57 <epsy>  /microfilter
11:58 <Monkey_> you dont plug microfilter into asdl modem..only other stuff.. i think
11:58 <epsy> philippecq: http://tremulous.net/
11:58 <epsy> well, that'S how my ISP told me to do
11:58 <philippeqc> reading the about atm
11:59 <Monkey_> epsy, you need microfilters everywhere in your house/flat...not just one socket
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12:00 <epsy> even if there'S nothing pluged on ?
12:00 <epsy> [11:58]  <epsy> mrbougo: this was only on tremx
12:00 <epsy> [11:58]  <epsy> mrbougo: this was only on tremx
12:01 <Monkey_> im not sure about that, i dont think so, but you may get reflections from improper termination...
12:01 <epsy> hmm
12:01 <Monkey_> you should have microfilters at least in every item in your house that connects to any phone socket
12:02 <epsy> well, there'S two different lines at home
12:02 <Monkey_> do they converge (join) to use one line?
12:02 <epsy> one which was disabled, withnothing pluged on
12:02 <philippeqc> got 2 hours to code. What should i attempt to fix?
12:02 <epsy> the other one which has the phone and the adsl box on
12:03 <epsy> btw, the adsl box has also a tv and another phone plugged on it
12:04 <philippeqc> vote fast, time is passing!
12:04 <Monkey_> fix the lag code ;)
12:04 <philippeqc> ... about zone v2
12:04 <epsy> but some at home doesn't wan't the first phone to be removed
12:04 <epsy> errr ... never tested it
12:05 <philippeqc> lag code works fine, just pay more for your broadband access (and that aint no 2 hours job)
12:05 <epsy> and i dont't have all the stuff here to compile and so
12:05 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: fix my garage door :)
12:05 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I'm definitely going to bed, for real
12:05 <Monkey_> epsy ..anything an i mean ANYTHING that plugs into ANY phone socket ANYWHERE in your house needs a microfilter
12:05 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: ramps and flying cycles!
12:05 <epsy> good night
12:05 <epsy> :D
12:05 <Monkey_> cu
12:05 <wrtlprnft> cya
12:05 <philippeqc> one button kills all option
12:05 <Lucifer_arma> Monkey_: my tongue needs a microfilter?
12:05 <philippeqc> why waste time driving around players!
12:06 <Monkey_> if your tongue  is plugged into a phone socket then yes it needs a microfilter..
12:06 <epsy> err... apart that phone and the adsl box, there'S nothing that plugs on a phone socket
12:06 <Lucifer_arma> fax machine
12:06  * philippeqc constate the state of democraty and instead decide to be a benevolent dictator
12:06 <Lucifer_arma> teletype for deaf folks
12:06 <epsy> phillippecq
12:07 <epsy> what do you feel it's missing ?
12:07 <Monkey_> do you have hdtv etc?
12:07 <Lucifer_arma> regular dialup modem for guests that don't want to use your free wireless
12:07 <epsy> hdtv ? not yet
12:07  * Lucifer_arma expects IM to replace teletype
12:07 <epsy> but i could have it with the next upgrade
12:07 <philippeqc> epsy, I have 2 hours of coding time to improve zone v2. I'll try to make the shapes network updated between server and client both understanding zones v2
12:07 <Lucifer_arma> but there are those who say that teletype should use xmpp already
12:08 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: go and do it! :)
12:08 <epsy> the shapes network ? :O
12:08 <philippeqc> wrt, care to explaing to epsy?
12:08 <philippeqc> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=182941#182941
12:09  * Monkey_ puts 8 cycle poly in trash
12:09  * Monkey_ puts moviepacks in trash
12:09 <epsy> (btw with the next upgrade i could get up to 28MB/s dowm :O )
12:09 <wrtlprnft> who on earth needs that?
12:09 <Monkey_> and it will not reach that speed
12:09 <epsy> yeah
12:10 <Monkey_> is that adls2 family or vdsl?
12:10 <epsy> but it could have at least 16MB/s
12:10 <epsy> adsl2+ or something like that
12:10 <Monkey_> epsy, another issue is the quality of your microfilters. they affect the max speed you line can work at
12:10 <Monkey_> "apparently"
12:11 <epsy> Oo
12:13 <epsy> ph: your next post is gonna be the 1337 :O
12:13 <philippeqc> better be smart about it then
12:13 <Lucifer_arma> his next post is going to say "I got <this far> and then my head fell on the keyboard, and the picture in my avatar was snapped"
12:14 <philippeqc> Anyone got good citation worthy items?
12:14 <Lucifer_arma> 85 in a 50?
12:14 <philippeqc> ????
12:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's citation worthy, you're 35 mph over the speed limit!
12:15 <Lucifer_arma> I got 98 in a 55 one time
12:15 <Lucifer_arma> because apparently the radar was around 30 degrees from the direction of my velocity vector, or he'd have clocked me at 120 (what my speedometer read)
12:15 <philippeqc> I was thinking more in the Neil Amstrong first step on the moon type
12:16 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think he was breaking any speed limits when he did that
12:16 <Lucifer_arma> maybe jaywalking
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12:17 <Lucifer_arma> only things coming to mind are bad puns of the "one small step" variety, and phrases that start with "Our father, who is Art, and in heaven..."
12:18 <Lucifer_arma> on a somewhat lighter note, I finally figured out why everyone spells my last name incorrectly as Francella
12:19  * philippeqc is considering passing the task to someone else than Mr I-cant-measure-my-own-dick there.
12:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh
12:19 <philippeqc> ;)
12:19 <Lucifer_arma> if you have the right architect scale, you can figure out the actual length of my penis with the information I gave :)
12:19 <philippeqc> I know its all a matter of scale ;)
12:20 <philippeqc> and that the most likely one you used is a 1:12
12:20 <philippeqc> or so would you like us to interpret
12:20 <Lucifer_arma> turns out that my mom has been saying "F as in Farmer" to avoid people writing S instead of F, but people hear "F R A"
12:20 <Lucifer_arma> actually I used the 1/2 scale and gave the unit as feet instead of inches
12:21 <wrtlprnft> http://xkcd.com/c194.html
12:21 <philippeqc> But i guessed it was better to keep on bidding on your bluff rather than calling it. Makes for more interesting my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours discussion
12:22 <philippeqc> Sheesh Louise!
12:22 <wrtlprnft> probably the scale was really in cm
12:22 <guru3> Part of me can't believe you guys are talking about this... the other part of me somehow thinks it fits. :/
12:22 <Lucifer_arma> nah, it's really inches.  I'm an american, after all.
12:24 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm going to go back to saying "F as in phoenix"
12:24 <Lucifer_arma> because nobody ever misspelled it when I said that, no matter how ridiculous it sounds
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12:27 <philippeqc> There are about 3 strategies on those discussions. A) you claim your own is bigger ("let me check google map, I spent the summer at a nudist camp" or "when I have an itch, I think of sexy girls and strach it off on the moon"), B) claim the poster is exaggerating toward excess C)Claim yours is smaller ("I know I've seen it last week, let me get my magnifying glass")  D) claim the poster is being modest and see how far you can d
12:27 <philippeqc> rive it. I've ordered them in from the most over-done to the funniest.
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12:28 <@Lucifer_arma> heh
12:28 <philippeqc> "C as in muscle"
12:28 <@Lucifer_arma> that was 4 strategies you gave
12:29 <philippeqc> changed idea as I typed. be lucky they are labeled right
12:29 <epsy> Luci: can you promote the afl and the #afl channel in the subject ?
12:29 <wrtlprnft> err
12:29 <@Lucifer_arma> and you missed the one I actually used.  "Tell the truth, give the actual size of your little dick, but give it in such a way that nobody can figure it out and it still sounds like a grandeous claim"
12:29 <wrtlprnft> latest version is 0.2.8.2.1!
12:29 <@Lucifer_arma> ok, fine
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12:30 <wrtlprnft> aww, no topic setting war :(
12:31 <epsy> no, they just all appended something :P
12:31 <epsy> luci, ty
12:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I actually intended to change both the version and add the afl thing, so you just didn't notice ;)
12:32 <wrtlprnft> well, all i can see of the topic right now is
12:32 <wrtlprnft> Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron
12:32 <wrtlprnft> Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron
12:32 <wrtlprnft> Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron
12:32 <wrtlprnft> err
12:32 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, looks like the second deadline passed and I need to let newbie know that I'm letting his team in
12:32 <wrtlprnft> i pasted that only once!
12:33 <MrBougo> hehe
12:33 <MrBougo> liar
12:34  * Lucifer_arma avoids escalating irc spam war and goes to bed instead, like he said he was going to do 3 times already
12:34 <epsy> gppd night
12:34 <epsy> *good night
12:34 <Lucifer_arma> gppd night epsy
12:34 <epsy> WD! Many tyüpos!
12:34 <epsy> man this isn't possible -.-
12:34  * Lucifer_arma zzzzzzzzzz
12:34 <MrBougo> rofl epsy
12:35 <MrBougo> gnight Lucifer_bed
12:40  * Monkey_ points to 8 poly cycle and moviepacks in trash and waves fist at #armagetron
12:41 <epsy> untrah them, and waste your hdd space
12:41 <epsy> like me :P
12:41 <MrBougo> bye
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12:48 <Monkey_> epsy, do you know how to get cycles working?
12:48 <epsy> no, i'm in the same shit as you
12:51 <vinavil> monkey: paste here the path where you placed the moviepack and which moviepack you used
12:53 <Monkey_> why same?
12:53 <epsy> [12:54]  <vinavil> monkey: paste here the path where you placed the moviepack and which moviepack you used
12:54 <epsy> well, i was also trying to get that 8-vert cycle
12:54 <Monkey_> ive used several moviepacks rain
12:54 <Monkey_> even edds with cycle in it
12:55 <Monkey_> i use sym links to other dirs where store packs, but i have tried without sym links too
12:55 <Monkey_> /usr/local/share/games/armagetronad/moviepack
12:56 <Monkey_> why cant u get it to work epsy? same as me?
12:56 <epsy> well, i still see the default cycle
12:56 <Monkey_> i used lucifers, classic and edd's with high def cycle
12:56 <Monkey_> or whatever new cycle it was
12:58 <Monkey_> me too
13:01 <vinavil> did you select "moviepack: on" in game?
13:02 <Monkey_> yes rain
13:02 <Monkey_> it works
13:02 <Monkey_> the moviepacks  work (although not sure about edds)
13:03 <vinavil> so, then you replace cycle.ase but you cannot see it working, right?
13:04 <Monkey_> two of the packs have no cycle.ase
13:04 <Monkey_> the other has cycle.ASE in capitals. i have changed to .ase and .ASE
13:04 <Monkey_> ineither work
13:04 <epsy> hmm
13:04 <vinavil> hm
13:04 <Monkey_> i try cycle.ase and cycle_low.ase  etc..all
13:04 <epsy> strace it ?
13:04 <vinavil> it is cycle.ase, you have to rename it
13:04 <Monkey_> not too hot on strace..
13:05 <Monkey_> i renamed to all rain none work
13:05 <epsy> hmm i could do it at home
13:07 <Monkey_> i was thinking do i need newer or extra libraries rain?
13:07 <Monkey_> i play arma on stable
13:09 <Monkey_> rain is yours cycle.ASE or cycle.ase?
13:09 <Monkey_> i think i wil try edds with .ase .....edd uses windows so he has called it .ASE but unix is case-dependent...that is bad on edds part
13:09 <Monkey_> no i did try it
13:15 <Monkey_> ok i go to pla yfor a bit.  this cycle will never get sorted till it is implemented in next version or whatever...cu
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13:34 <epsy> wrtl, are you stdin admionning now ?
13:45 <wrtlprnft> ?!
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14:35 <Loor> Hello? Can someone help me with a script?
14:35 <philippeqc> hi Loor
14:35 <Loor> hello
14:36 <Loor> Umm, i have a map rotation script, but it does the maps in oreder, i want them random. Do you know how to do that?
14:37 <philippeqc> for each round, make it pick along all the maps
14:37 <Loor> sorry?
14:38 <philippeqc> can you post your script somewhere like pastebin.ca
14:38 <Loor> i just need the code that generates a random number between 1 - 10
14:38 <philippeqc> rand() or random()
14:38 <Loor> ok, thanks, but how do i set the params?
14:38 <philippeqc> but not knowing which language you are using nor any of the details of your specific implementation makes it hard to help you
14:39 <philippeqc> what params=
14:39 <philippeqc> ?
14:39 <Loor> i'm using a script with a .sh extension
14:39 <philippeqc> ok, a bash or sh script.
14:39 <Loor> bash, thats it
14:40 <philippeqc> have you tried searching on google
14:40 <Loor> yeah, but it was heaps to go through, i just need the one little bit
14:41 <philippeqc> the heaps are of the same size for me.
14:41 <Loor> -.-
14:41 <Loor> maybe i'll post on the forums
14:41 <philippeqc> #google tutorial random bash
14:41 <armabot> philippeqc: Search took 0.13 seconds: Shell scripting ( BASH ) : How to create temporary random file name ...: <http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/shell-scripting-bash-how-to-create-temporary-random-file-name.html>; Advanced Bash -Scripting Guide: <http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/>; Unix bash Tutorials - Search for Unix Tutorials on Pixel2Life: <http://www.pixel2life.com/tutorials/unix/bash/>; (2 more messages)
14:42 <philippeqc> #google bash random number
14:42 <armabot> philippeqc: Search took 0.13 seconds: $ RANDOM : generate random integer: <http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/randomvar.html>; Advanced Bash -Scripting Guide: <http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/>; The Answer Guy 55: Getting Random Values in sh: <http://linuxgazette.net/issue55/tag/4.html>; $ RANDOM : generate random integer: <http://www.museum.state.il.us/ismdepts/library/linuxguides/abs- (2 more messages)
14:43 <philippeqc> that should be it
14:43 <Loor> ahh, $ RANDOM
14:43 <Loor> i'll check that out. thanks alot ph :)
14:44 <philippeqc> np
14:44 <wrtlprnft> 21444
14:44 <wrtlprnft> 22353
14:44 <wrtlprnft> 23261
14:44 <wrtlprnft> /exec -o echo $RANDOM
14:44 <wrtlprnft> :D
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14:52 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: do you know how to make a nNetObject send an update?
14:52 <philippeqc> found syncReq, that must be it
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15:14 <epsy> :O
15:21 <epsy> cya
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16:12 <MrBougo> bye
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18:23 <Stempo> #lastseen flex
18:23 <armabot> Stempo: |x|Flex has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 0 days 4 hours 59 minutes ago.
18:23 <Stempo> #lastseen kkthxbye
18:23 <armabot> Stempo: timed out
18:24 <_Sticky_> stalking flex??
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18:30 <Stempo> mmm not yet sticky
18:30 <Stempo> trying to find him
18:30 <Stempo> need to talk to him
18:30 <Stempo> like... now
18:36 <Stempo> #lastseen freehug
18:36 <armabot> Stempo: freehugGERMANY has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 2 days 23 hours 21 minutes ago.
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19:16 <epsy> hi
19:18 <epsy> #armaservers
19:18 <armabot> epsy: This data is 42 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (11/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Norm's Place (9/12), Fortress Café (9/32), Tigers Network Classic Play (7/16), SPACEZONE III (6/15), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (5/16), Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (4/16), G-Land (4/8), (1 more message)
19:18 <epsy> #serverinfo capt
19:18 <armabot> epsy: Wild West  =Capture The Flag=: Players (10/10): -=}ID< DarkSage, -=}ID< hulett, -=}ID< TåZåR, Genki, Gonzap, hb, Jon fooks, light sage, Nick, status66
19:19 <epsy> #serverinfo could
19:19 <armabot> epsy: Capture the Flag (This could be your server!): Players (4/16): Hes da one, Kanetsugu, Palmguru, Roar!
19:19 <epsy> xD
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19:33 <MrBougo> hi there
19:38 <philippeqc> Hi Mr B.
19:38 <epsy> hay
19:41 <philippeqc> Bump MrBougo
19:52 <MrBougo> ?
20:05 <epsy> :O
20:05 <MrBougo> :o
20:05 <epsy> :
20:05 <epsy> :O
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20:11 <MrBougo> bye
20:11 <MrBougo> :o
20:12 <MrBougo> bye :p
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20:40 <Stempo> #lastseen flex
20:40 <armabot> Stempo: |x|Flex has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 0 days 7 hours 16 minutes ago.
20:40 <Stempo> bah
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20:49 <Stempo> #lastseen flex
20:49 <armabot> Stempo: |x|Flex has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 0 days 7 hours 25 minutes ago.
20:49 <Stempo> -.-
20:49 <Stempo> freaking aliases
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21:01 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7303 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Basic network update of the shapes
21:02 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: --^
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21:02 <wrtlprnft> !!!
21:02 <wrtlprnft> make a server and i'll test it :D
21:02  * wrtlprnft is compiling the latest trunk
21:02 <philippeqc> Sadly it seems that Hamburger hill generates too many updates as all start turning.
21:02 <philippeqc> ok
21:02 <mkzelda> I just upgraded arma and im seg faulting when i join a game
21:02 <philippeqc> trunk?
21:03 <mkzelda> yea
21:03 <mkzelda> local game worked
21:03 <philippeqc> trunk is "broken" for playing on servers that have zone v1
21:03 <mkzelda> oh
21:03 <mkzelda> :(
21:03 <philippeqc> yeah, Iknow
21:03 <philippeqc> got a big platter before I manage to fix that.
21:03 <wrtlprnft> downgrade to r7228
21:03 <wrtlprnft> or fix it :D
21:03 <philippeqc> ;)
21:03 <mkzelda> whats svn syntax to co a specific revision?
21:04 <wrtlprnft> svn up -r<rev>
21:04 <mkzelda> kthx
21:04 <wrtlprnft> yw
21:05 <philippeqc> server should be up now
21:05 <epsy> °Oo
21:05 <wrtlprnft> ip?
21:05 <philippeqc> name is "Bachus quenched my thirst"
21:05 <mkzelda> i upgraded boost to 1.34
21:06 <wrtlprnft> still compiling…
21:06 <mkzelda> which seemed to work fine when i was playing local game
21:06 <philippeqc> yeah, it is ONLY when you are getting some zones sent over the network to you.
21:06 <wrtlprnft> i see every zone twice!
21:06 <philippeqc> so no fortress server with trunk
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21:07 <philippeqc> bug on the first round
21:07 <wrtlprnft> noticed
21:07 <philippeqc> segfaulted!
21:08 <wrtlprnft> not mine…
21:08 <wrtlprnft> *mine didn't
21:08 <epsy> hay eddie
21:08 <philippeqc> first time ever!
21:08 <eddiefantastic> Hi
21:08 <philippeqc> lol, I time out!
21:08 <philippeqc> hi eddiefantastic
21:09 <eddiefantastic> I got some seg faults too on zones v2
21:09 <mkzelda> hrm error compiling http://pastebin.ca/572589
21:09 <eddiefantastic> errors on the map
21:10 <philippeqc> eddie erros on what map?
21:11 <epsy> (err where's the dtd ?this could help me alot)
21:11 <wrtlprnft> connect to c83-250-174-94.bredband.comhem.se if you have time
21:12 <philippeqc> mkzelda: you must be on Ubuntu, I get the sames here because of ruby
21:12 <philippeqc> do "configure --disable-ruby" then compile
21:12 <epsy> with a zv3 compatible client ?
21:12 <epsy> *zv2
21:12 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:12 <philippeqc> resources/included/
21:12 <wrtlprnft> umm, negative pings!
21:12 <wrtlprnft> no lag!
21:13 <philippeqc> yeah, I got them too! Thought it was only because I was playing on lo (opback interface)
21:13 <philippeqc> new time traveling packets
21:13 <philippeqc> wrt, i'll restart the server
21:13 <wrtlprnft> ok
21:14 <mkzelda> im on gentoo
21:15 <mkzelda> ah thanks --disable-ruby helped
21:15  * wrtlprnft is running his screenshot update script
21:15 <epsy> :O
21:15 <wrtlprnft> takes forever because it rsyncs the whole directory
21:16 <philippeqc> ed, I heard you had some question for me
21:16 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=602&max=607
21:16 <philippeqc> 602 is "normal"
21:16 <philippeqc> i update only one quarter atm, lowers the number of network update. I will "fix" it
21:17 <wrtlprnft> sometimes the zone doesn't turn red
21:17 <philippeqc> yeah, I've been working on that recently
21:18 <philippeqc> if you drop the 4 rotator segments, then the color update work
21:18 <philippeqc> working on lo here, I get many "Warning! Network overflow"
21:20 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7304 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: reverting accidential commit of something I was testing. Oops.
21:20 <wrtlprnft> svn blame proved that it was my fault
21:21 <wrtlprnft> i HATE subversion!
21:21 <philippeqc> o come on!
21:23 <philippeqc> wrt, try it now
21:23 <philippeqc> only one of the rotator segment is affected by the fortress zones,
21:23 <philippeqc> rather than all 4
21:23 <wrtlprnft> plop.
21:23 <wrtlprnft> number of teams 1
21:23 <wrtlprnft> associating blue with philippeqc net ID:540
21:23 <wrtlprnft> /home/mathias/bin/arma: line 5: 12377 Segmentation fault      armagetronad-experimental-live --record $rec $*
21:23 <philippeqc> it is sufficient to make the fortress change color
21:24 <philippeqc> you left!
21:24 <philippeqc> o
21:24 <philippeqc> try again
21:24 <wrtlprnft> same thing
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21:24 <philippeqc> grrr
21:24 <wrtlprnft> want a backgrace?
21:24 <philippeqc> ok, the error is on the second join
21:24 <wrtlprnft> *backtrace
21:24 <philippeqc> yeah, why not!
21:25 <wrtlprnft> sec, building with debug symbols
21:25 <philippeqc> oooo, I know what is the error!
21:25 <philippeqc> ok, no need
21:25 <wrtlprnft> :)
21:27 <philippeqc> i left, try to join
21:28 <wrtlprnft> argh
21:28 <wrtlprnft> the stupid thing reset my graphics options
21:30 <philippeqc> what stupid thing?
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21:34 <wrtlprnft> arma
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> and it's all philippeqc (hi there!) 's fault!
21:37 <philippeqc> yes of course
21:37 <philippeqc> get ready to compile trunk luci
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> my machine's comiling trunk right now
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> the sad part is that I can't use the resulting build :/
21:38 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7305 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/gParser.cpp: Second player tojoin doesnt segfault anymore
21:38 <philippeqc> you will want that update
21:39 <Lucifer_arma> what the hell is cc1plus?
21:40  * Lucifer_arma assumes it's a symlink for g++, but doesn't know it for a fact
21:40 <philippeqc> hu!
21:41 <epsy> ls -ld `which g++`
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Feb 10 16:42 /usr/lib/distcc/bin/g++ -> ../../../../usr/bin/distcc
21:42  * Lucifer_arma decides to ignore it, knowing his buildslave is going to build arma again when it's done due to another commit being made is good enough
21:43 <epsy> ls: g++: No such file or directory
21:43 <epsy> ls: in: No such file or directory
21:43 <epsy> ls: no: No such file or directory
21:43 <epsy> drwxr-xr-x    40 root  wheel   1360 Jun  8 22:34 /bin
21:43 <epsy> drwxr-xr-x    63 root  wheel   2142 Jun  8 22:58 /sbin
21:43 <epsy> drwxr-xr-x   622 root  wheel  21148 Jun 15 07:16 /usr/bin
21:43 <epsy> drwxr-xr-x   198 root  wheel   6732 Jun  8 22:58 /usr/sbin
21:43 <epsy> damn
21:44  * epsy fucks darwin
21:44 <wrtlprnft> philippeqc: the fix already compiled
21:44 <philippeqc> ok
21:44 <wrtlprnft> did that while playing
21:45 <epsy> wheel group ????
21:45 <epsy> that's only for su i though
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21:46 <wrtlprnft> who cares?
21:46 <wrtlprnft> the wheel group doesn't have any more access than everyone else
21:46 <Lucifer_arma> wheelie?
21:47 <epsy> wrtl, they normally have su and that'S all
21:47 <epsy> now why are there folders under the wheel group ? this has no sense
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21:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it doesn't matter if you're in wheel or not, you still have r and x access to those dirs, no more, no less
21:48 <epsy> yeah, but why not putting root instead
21:48 <epsy> this just puts confusion
21:49 <wrtlprnft> you've got problems…
21:49 <epsy> osx 10.4.9
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21:54 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: try to enter  the blue rotator now
21:55 <epsy> philippeqc: hopefully you won't need to code any chat system in arma...someone else did it
21:55 <philippeqc> ???
21:55 <philippeqc> o no, thats there
21:55 <epsy> there's ingame chat X)
21:56 <wrtlprnft> crashing
21:56 <wrtlprnft> with fix
21:56 <wrtlprnft> brb
21:57 <philippeqc> i still dont know why you made that comment epsy
21:57 <epsy> which g++ : no g++ in /usr/bin /bin /usr/sbin /sbin Oo
21:57 <epsy> ph: forget about it
21:57 <philippeqc> ok
21:59 <epsy> i got no compilers here :'(
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22:00 <philippeqc> apt-get install g++
22:00 <philippeqc> or what your distro support for installing apps
22:01 <philippeqc> you will need most sdl libraries
22:01 <philippeqc> dont forget the "devel" packages so you have the .h files
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22:02 <philippeqc> to compile agains
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22:02 <epsy> my distro supports DMG images...
22:02 <epsy> -.-
22:02 <epsy> Darwin  8.9.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.9.1: Thu Feb 22 20:55:00 PST 2007; root:xnu-792.18.15~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386
22:02 <philippeqc> o
22:08 <wrtlprnft> now it let me join
22:09 <wrtlprnft> interesting zones
22:09 <wrtlprnft> now the server got klled
22:09 <philippeqc> i restarted it
22:09 <philippeqc> recompiling
22:09 <philippeqc> sorry
22:09 <philippeqc> up
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22:19 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: server is up, join
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> er, my buildslave is still running :/
22:31 <philippeqc> o my, slow!
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> slow?  You just did like 50 commits, and it builds a new build for each of them
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, not exactly each commit, but it was building when you said you were about to commit, and hten you committed, which meant it was going to build again for that commit
22:37 <philippeqc> what? a build for each commit, why?
22:37 <philippeqc> it was a small commit
22:38  * epsy is gonna go
22:38 <philippeqc> cya
22:39 <epsy> #night
22:39 <armabot> Good night epsy!
22:39 <epsy> #ty
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22:58 <_Sticky_> #lastseen Rico
22:58 <armabot> _Sticky_: rico seems to be on SPACEZONE III right now.
22:58 <_Sticky_> #serverinfo spacezone
22:58 <armabot> _Sticky_: SPACEZONE III: Players (6/15): 2thepoint, Feel, inf3rno, John Cage, noob_saibot, rico
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: it's not exactly a build for each commit, it's a build for all commits that happened since the last pause in development, where a pause is like 10 minutes.
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like it's done finally, but the fans are still spinning
23:07  * Lucifer_arma judges his machine's cpu usage by the fan noise
23:08 <philippeqc> does your machine continually build trunk or where you just unlucky in the delivery of commits
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> so when one developer is working and commits his little milestones, they frequently go more than 10 minutes between commits
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> I was just unlucky in the delivery of commits :)
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> I can offset the problem to some extent by only running the buildslave during certain hours, and as long as it has time to get caught up with builds it would be fine
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> I just don't because my own hours are pretty inconsistent, and I'm going to switch this laptop to kubuntu in the next couple of months
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> but I've noticed when 2 developers are working and committing their little milestones, the next build doesn't happen until one of them is actually finished, because of the timing of commits
23:10 <philippeqc> you should define your pause as 30 min. to grab all the quick fix that follow a build
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> the other thing I can do to offset this problem is set the stable option to more like 30 minutes or an hour
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> the problem there is that when we're all active at the same time, due to timezone differences, it's likely that a build may not happen for a week or more
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm going to worry about it after I finish switching my machines out to kubuntu.  Last hting I need to do is make significant changes to configuration that is otherwise well known to me before a distribution switch
23:12 <philippeqc> ok
23:14 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/?min=607&max=623
23:22 <philippeqc> checking
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23:22 <philippeqc> look at the new blue rotator in the mean while
23:22 <philippeqc> wrtlprnft: --^
23:26 <philippeqc> lucifer, its soon now or never (or at your own leisure, but not on my server) ;)
23:29 <philippeqc> MAP_FILE philippeqc/fortress/HamburgerHill-d.aamap.xml (http://www.geocities.com/philippeqc/maps/HamburgerHill-d.aamap.xml)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> how about at my own leisure?  ;)
23:58 <philippeqc> it is no longer a choice
23:58 <philippeqc> it is now the only possibility for you
23:58 <philippeqc> ;)
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:58 <philippeqc> Mouhahahaha!
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> creep
23:59 <philippeqc> going to bed
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  'night :)
23:59 <philippeqc> left some screenshot to build your appetite

Log from 2007-06-18:
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00:01 <philippeqc> good night
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00:25 <itsamemario> hi
00:25 <itsamemario> does anyone here know how to compile tron 3.0 for ubuntu
00:30 <itsamemario> anyone?
00:42  * digitx is away (bye)
00:45 <itsamemario> hi
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01:01 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
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01:55 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
01:55 <armabot> pong
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02:00 <mkzelda> http://www.aventamerica.com/products/breastfeeding/popup/isisiqduo_quickstartguide.asp
02:03  * Lucifer_arma is not impressed
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:05 <vinavil> how women become cows
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> women are cows
02:08 <Lucifer_arma> because cows are the milk-bearing gender of the species :)
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the only time I could ever call my wife a cow was when she was actively breastfeeding.  Now that she's not, she'd kill me if I called her a cow.
02:09 <vinavil> they are not really, but if you have no time to grow up children, do not start then
02:09 <vinavil> same for men
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08:02 <MrBougo> hello
08:17 <wrtlprnft> hi
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 110
08:26 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 43.3333333333
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 40
08:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 104
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 30
08:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 86
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 10
08:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: -12.2222222222
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10:03 <MrBougo> #help finc
10:03 <armabot> MrBougo: (finc <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "math calc ($1-32)*5/9".
10:04 <MrBougo> oh right, temperature
11:00 <MrBougo> bye
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13:17 <epsy> hi
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16:57 <epsy> hay
17:04 <epsy> #lastseen monkey
17:04 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minute ago.
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17:04 <epsy> FUCK IT
17:05 <epsy> (not you van)
17:05 <Vanhayes> hello to you too :)
17:05 <epsy> hay van
17:06 <wrtlprnft> ph
17:06 <wrtlprnft> oops
17:08 <epsy> hay wrtl :)
17:08 <wrtlprnft> hi
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20:12 <MrBougo> bye
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20:28 <mkzelda> #tea
20:28 <armabot> mkzelda: Fortress Café: Players (17/32): angry mescalin, apparition, awesome, chri$cantmi$$, Gladiator, Gonzap, Jimmy Swift, JJBean, K alf ñ	~*SP*~P, Phantom, Slash, spot, |x|flex, ~*$P*~$p|ïðg~, ~*SP*~Foper~, ¦Ö¦Foper, °°oururin
20:28 <Vanhayes> full house
20:28 <mkzelda> goodnight michelle
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20:29 <wrtlprnft> so, is the lag bearable?
20:29 <Vanhayes> pretty good actually
20:29 <wrtlprnft> :)
20:29 <wrtlprnft> it sort of fluctuates
20:30 <epsy> hay vinavil
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20:30 <vinavil> hello
20:30 <epsy> OH FUCK
20:30 <vinavil> what a welcome
20:30 <wrtlprnft> indeed
20:31 <epsy> [20:34]  * Monkey_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:31 <epsy> [20:34]  * Monkey_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:31 <wrtlprnft> only appeared once for me
20:31 <wrtlprnft> thrice now…
20:31 <vinavil> once here
20:31 <epsy> it only appeared once in chat input too
20:32 <epsy> and i did saw it thrice
20:32 <epsy> here, #arf amd #arma-ladle
20:32 <epsy> *#afl
20:32  * epsy feels wrtl visiting #arf
20:32 <vinavil> hehe
20:33 <wrtlprnft> 20:33 -!- wrtlprnft [n=wrtlprnf@85.233.38.240.static.cablesurf.de] has joined #arf
20:33 <wrtlprnft> 20:33 -!- Irssi: #arf: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal]
20:33 <epsy> and he's on it
20:33 <epsy> :O
20:33 <epsy> [20:34]  * Monkey_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:33 <epsy> man
20:34 <epsy> i hate the way xchat handles clipboard
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20:34 <epsy> * Now talking on #arf
20:34 <wrtlprnft> *hint* IRSSI */hint*
20:35 <epsy> osx isn't made for using it with a treminal
20:35 <epsy> ...
20:35 <epsy> why does iMail open of itself
20:35 <epsy> ...
20:36 <epsy> #lastseen monk
20:36 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 29 minutes ago.
20:36 <epsy> ...
20:37  * epsy * raging
20:37 <epsy> *e
20:37 <vinavil> epsy cannot spell tonight
20:37 <vinavil> dinner time, brb
20:38 <epsy> since i'm using this keyboard i get kb lags...typos and all
20:38 <epsy> -.-
20:38 <wrtlprnft> kb?
20:38 <epsy> keyboard -.-
20:38 <wrtlprnft> i thought you were talking about kilobytes of lag
20:39 <vinavil> he needs a break with computer. go in a wood and relax
20:39 <epsy> oh man
20:39 <epsy> i need ppl
20:39 <epsy> i love ppl
20:39 <wrtlprnft> in fact, if you repeat the word “lag” 333.33333 times you get 1 KB of lag
20:39 <epsy> i can't live without talking to someone...i would run crazy
20:40 <epsy> ...if i don'T
20:40 <wrtlprnft> do i REALLY need to mention that you alread ARE crazy?
20:40 <epsy> err...
20:40 <epsy> you said yesterday that...
20:41 <epsy> err no that was luci
20:41 <wrtlprnft> hmm, maybe there's something to it then…
20:42 <epsy> to ?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 20:33 -!- Irssi: #arf: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal]
20:43 <wrtlprnft> err what?
20:43  * epsy remembers kainX
20:43 <epsy> uh ?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 20:40 <wrtlprnft> […] you already ARE crazy?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> that's what i wanted to paste
20:44 <epsy> hehehe
20:45 <epsy> kainx is the guy that kicks me all the time on #e
20:46 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:46 <epsy> well, you don't care anyways
20:46 <epsy> ?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> probably got a reason
20:46 <epsy> err...
20:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o epsy] by ChanServ
20:47 <mkzelda> Do you ask when e17 is coming out?
20:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o epsy] by ChanServ
20:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v epsy] by ChanServ
20:47 <+epsy> the first time it was because i posted something with "xD"
20:47 <wrtlprnft> oops, op ≠ voice
20:47 <wrtlprnft> #e must be a pretty strict #
20:47 <+epsy> ...and that he doesn't like smileys with doesn'T have puctuation in it
20:48 <wrtlprnft> maybe try #a or #i or #o or #u
20:48 <+epsy> the seconds time because i "advertised" an emerging e related site
20:48 <+epsy> wrtl, read the channel subject
20:48 <+epsy> mkzelda << no
20:49 <+epsy> wrtl, that guy is what i call a crazy guy
20:49 <wrtlprnft> how do i get a channel's topic?
20:49 <+epsy> and now i can'T devoice myself
20:49 <+epsy> rtfm ?
20:49 <+epsy> err. join it maybe :P
20:49 <wrtlprnft> nah, that would be boring
20:49 <mkzelda> /topic #armagetron
20:49 <+epsy> (dont worry, kainX is afk)
20:50 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: tried that, but it just tells me that i'm not on that channel (duh)
20:50 <+epsy> [20:53]  * Topic for #e is: http://www.enlightenment.org/  - Anoncvs: anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e (mirror cvs1.kevb.net) || web cvs http://e.kevb.net/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/ || http://enlightenment.org/donate | Raster's linux.conf.au presentation: http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/101.ogg || Menu or .desktop questions? http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_and_Efreet
20:51 <wrtlprnft> what's special about it?
20:51 <+epsy> about the topic or... ?
20:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah, about the topic
20:52 <+epsy> if i said "read the channel topic"
20:52 <+epsy> it was because you was taking it for a random channel
20:52 <wrtlprnft> no, i wasn't
20:53 <+epsy> (d'uh it was because doesn't sound great)
20:53 <wrtlprnft> i was making a deliberate joke.
20:53 <+epsy> -.-
20:53 <wrtlprnft> haha!
20:53 <wrtlprnft> ha
20:53 <wrtlprnft> ha!
20:53 <+epsy> sorry i'm really ...
20:53 <wrtlprnft> HA ROTFL LOL OMG ZOMG !!!!!!!11!111"
20:53 <+epsy> #t fr en mauvais esprit
20:53 <armabot> epsy: bad spirit
20:53 <+epsy> lol
20:54 <+epsy> :O
20:54 <+epsy> you has laughing wrtl ?
20:54  * wrtlprnft is currently rolling around under the table
20:55 <+epsy> :O you've luck, there'S nothing on the table you pc is on
20:55 <+epsy> sounds impossible to me
20:55 <vinavil> one of these days a software corporation will steal epsy's mind to improve AI project
20:55 <+epsy> ??
20:56 <+epsy> why would they do that ?
20:56  * epsy will be d...
20:56 <wrtlprnft> maybe they're stupid
20:56 <+epsy> oh fuck i should stop saying that
20:56 <+epsy> -.-'
20:57 <vinavil> wrtlprnft said it
20:58 <wrtlprnft> ?
20:58 <+epsy> had a good eat, rain ?
20:58 <vinavil> they are stupid, lol
20:58 <+epsy> :O
20:58 <vinavil> i ate 2 tomatoes
20:58 <+epsy> i would be still hungry
20:58 <+epsy> err well
20:59 <+epsy> wrtl << alexey1_ thru tor ?
20:59 <+epsy> was that you ?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ wget http://electricpotential.net/ -qO- | grep thank                                      ~ thank you for using a real browser
20:59 <wrtlprnft> since when is wget a real browser?
20:59 <wrtlprnft> err, no?
21:00 <+epsy> ok...
21:00  * vinavil hopes programmers will back speaking as other humans do (not considering nyc people as humans)
21:02 <+epsy> irc should feature that anyone can devoice itself
21:02 <+epsy> #armaservers
21:03 <armabot> epsy: This data is 77 seconds old; ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12/16), Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (11/16), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10/14), Norm's Place (9/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8/12), The Tavern (7/16), Fortress Café (7/32), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6/6), Tigers Network Classic (2 more messages)
21:03 <+epsy> #tea
21:03 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): dookatee, G5, Gonzap, HEXadecimal, IL, ROKER, °°Gollow
21:03 <+epsy> #more
21:03 <armabot> epsy: Play (6/16), SPACEZONE III (5/15), Wild West  =CTF Shooting= (4/10), ~!|BD|Clan Server~ (4/10), SPACEZONE III TEAM PLAY (3/16), Strawberry Fields (3/16), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - Scots Div. Arma Clan :. (1/8), GEMINI PROJECT (1/6), Server.iZm (1/8), SPACEZONE [VERY HIGH SPEED!!] (1/8), |FA| Clan Server 1 Â Shooting Gallery! (1/16), Chico's Brake Boost Styball (1/8), Shadowlight  Australian (1 more message)
21:03 <vinavil> lol, who's gollow?
21:03 <+epsy> :O
21:03 <+epsy> i think it would be him
21:03 <vinavil> should be lin
21:03 <+epsy> gonna check ? >.>
21:04 <+epsy> #serverinfo classic
21:04 <armabot> epsy: Tigers Network Classic Play: Players (7/16): 0x456788Andy, Ad0x00ffaaio, Cipolla, Fallout Boy, I-Suck, krezyaw, Tommy&Annika
21:04  * epsy is gonna pwn some
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21:10  * epsy * not feeling good
21:10 <+epsy> #more
21:10 <armabot> epsy: Outback (1/16)
21:10 <+epsy> ...
21:11 <+epsy> #tea
21:11 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): Bruce Nolan, D'Aquisto, dookatee, G5, Gonzap, HEXadecimal, IL, L2K|k3nny, Luzifer, ROKER, xXx-$eX-xXx, °¯rain, °°Gollow
21:12 <armabot> Wireshark: sfisher * r22131 /trunk/epan/dissectors/packet-armagetronad.c: (log message trimmed)
21:12 <armabot> Wireshark: Please find attached a patch to fix some bugs in the armagetronad
21:12 <armabot> Wireshark: * Update the descriptors to armagetronad-0.2.8.2.1, the file
21:12 <armabot> Wireshark: src/network/Makefile.in does not exist anymore in the armagetronad
21:13 <+epsy> epan ?? what's that for a distro
21:15 <wrtlprnft> complete message: http://cia.vc/stats/project/wireshark/.message/2b65d7
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21:29 <epsy:#armagetron> no, i'm speaking of the loud ambiance
21:29 <epsy:#armagetron> there's a poll like every round
21:30 <epsy:#armagetron> i think you should disable polls for a time, wrtl
21:30 <epsy:#armagetron> calm them down -.-
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21:40 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> hello
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21:40 <vinavil:#armagetron> hello
21:40 <epsy:#armagetron> hay vinavil / lucifer_arma / eddiefantastic
21:41 <vinavil:#armagetron> i was greeting ed
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21:41 <vinavil:#armagetron> i didn't leave, lol
21:42 <epsy:#armagetron> i'm sorry but you did :P
21:42 <vinavil:#armagetron> did i?
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21:43 <epsy> * vinavil has quit (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
21:43 <vinavil> calvino, lol
21:43 <epsy> it's in the
21:43 <epsy> err.
21:44 <epsy> it's in the trunk's texture folder
21:44 <vinavil> here nothing happened, dunno
21:44 <epsy> yeah they hide it to you
21:44 <epsy> :P
21:44 <vinavil> ...
21:44 <Zacariaz> as i said, i know about the textures, but it will be hard to get them to work in combination with gdlib
21:45 <epsy> in the trunk it contains a ttf file
21:45 <wrtlprnft> could you guys give me a hint on what you're talking about?
21:45 <epsy> arma's default font
21:45 <wrtlprnft> what does that have to do with gdlib?
21:46 <epsy> no clue
21:46 <Zacariaz> ok... ill better check again then
21:47 <Zacariaz> its a complicated story
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21:48 <Zacariaz> i have no ttf file here
21:48 <epsy> ok, what'S the goal
21:48 <epsy> in the trunk or in 0.3
21:48 <epsy> there should be one
21:49 <wrtlprnft> http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/textures/Armagetronad.ttf?revision=6026
21:49 <Zacariaz> i dont use 0.3
21:50 <epsy> i should really think about svn veiwers -.-
21:50 <Zacariaz> heard it sucked
21:50 <wrtlprnft> then you don't get a ttf file.
21:50 <Zacariaz> hank you so much for the help
21:50 <epsy> err, on what points it sucked ?
21:50 <wrtlprnft> let me guess, it's the camera
21:51 <epsy> (feedback's always welcome)
21:51 <epsy> exept to kainX
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21:51 <epsy> lol
21:51 <wrtlprnft> that's feedback, too
21:51 <epsy> Oo
21:51 <vinavil> lol
21:52 <vinavil> you guys like to complice things :)
21:54 <vinavil> complicate*
21:55  * vinavil got affected by epsy's mispell-disease
21:55 <epsy> lol nice typo
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21:56 <wrtlprnft> let's try what it's like to have #armagetron and #crazy-tronners in one window
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21:57 <epsy>  /cycle command ftw!
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> why does everybody keep saying "For the Wookie"?
22:01 <epsy> :O Mais tu es fou !?!
22:01 <epsy> why not ?
22:01 <mkzelda> I did it all for the wookie
22:02 <mkzelda> idiftl
22:02 <epsy> Indeed!
22:02 <epsy> you forgot the a
22:03 <epsy> ^^
22:04 <mkzelda> i did it for teh lulz
22:04 <mkzelda> leaving out the a
22:04 <epsy> -.-'
22:04 <mkzelda> so, are u banned from #e?
22:04 <epsy> i was many times
22:04 <mkzelda> i saw you say 'hi' 7 hrs ago and then nothing
22:05 <epsy> but if you /who #e you'Il see i'm there
22:05 <mkzelda> yea i saw ya
22:05 <mkzelda> I like asking when e17 will be final right after someone else does
22:06 <epsy> lol
22:06 <mkzelda> thats about all i ever say in there
22:06 <mkzelda> i troll for that opportunity
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> when will e17 be final?
22:06 <mkzelda> i think im gonna make a trigger to respond to the bot's trigger
22:06  * epsy also notes there is #e.de and #e.fr
22:07 <mkzelda> the bot says something like "every time someone asks raster adds 1 week, so stop asking"
22:07 <epsy> lol
22:07 <epsy> there's a bot there ?
22:07 <mkzelda> yea, ask when e17 will be comlete
22:07 <epsy> ok, then try asking it to kainX now
22:07 <vinavil> yawns
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22:08 <epsy> if i do it i'm banned for ever
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it'd be done if they spent less time hacking their bot to nag people who nag about when e17 will be done
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> seriously, e17 is like the GNU kernel.
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> It's never gonna happen
22:08 <epsy> or it will be out when raster the perfectionnist dies ?
22:09 <mkzelda> its really sweet as is
22:09 <epsy> mkzelda, using it ?
22:09 <epsy> :O
22:09 <mkzelda> yea, ono my sarc
22:09 <mkzelda> soarc
22:09 <mkzelda> sparc
22:09 <epsy> ??
22:10 <epsy> lol
22:10 <mkzelda> keyboard died
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> you know, perfectionism is one of those things that indicates low self-esteem
22:10 <mkzelda> luckily i have 2
22:10 <epsy> *on my sparc k
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> maybe this raster character just needs a good girlfriend
22:10 <epsy> he has one
22:10 <mkzelda> i used to be a perfectionist until i got a girlfriend
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, I'm laid back compared to how I was before I got married
22:11 <epsy> http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=Me
22:11 <mkzelda> actually, i ditched a lot of my perfectionist, neat freak, ocd stuff when i lived with this guy that was a huge slob
22:11 <mkzelda> and that was hte same time i got the girlfriend, who was also kinda slobby
22:12 <epsy> i'm really saying this guy is crazy: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-1.jpg
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> damn, he's just a kid
22:12 <mkzelda> that guy looks a lot like a computer
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> he looks kind of like sark
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> end of line
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> so e17 isn't done because he's too busy writing the master control program?
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> man, I had this wild dream where I was hacking on eugenics and people kept asking me about armagetron stuff, and then the movie TRON came on the tv
22:14 <Lucifer_arma> so then my kids came in to watch it, and we argued over what the movie's name was
22:15 <mkzelda> they made a movie based on the game?
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they did, you haven't seen it?
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's even got a cameo from z-man
22:16 <mkzelda> nice
22:16 <mkzelda> they made a game based on a QBASIC command?
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they did, you haven't seen it?
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's even got a cameo from bill gates
22:17 <mkzelda> nice
22:17 <mkzelda> i updated the rulesets
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> you do know that TRON's name being also an old basic commad is coincidental, right?
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh cool, they all updated
22:18 <epsy> sh: line 1: tron: command not found
22:18 <mkzelda> sh != basic
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> did you manage to find flags for all the ones that were left, or do we still need to dig up flags for a few?
22:18 <epsy> ...was trying to joke...
22:18 <mkzelda> i didnt find any flags
22:18 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: it's possible modern basic imlementations lack te tron command
22:18 <mkzelda> i had it in my qbasic class
22:19 <mkzelda> for qbasic 1.1 and 4.5
22:19 <mkzelda> 4.5 was cool, had a built in compiler
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: when I was going through nations without flags in xml, I kept finding flags in the flags directory.  That was after I overwrite the assyria.svg flag, though, and decided I liked the one I found so much I wasn't going to bother reverting to see what the old one was
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> I never used qbasic, although I hear it was the same dialect that was in applebasic and commodore basic
22:20 <mkzelda> i only noticed mordoor and dunedain
22:20 <mkzelda> there might have been more
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> I hacked the server to output civilizations that are broken so you can get a list of broken civilizations by starting the server
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> right now the only thing that's checked is whether or not a civilization has a flag, so if it's listed as broken, it doesn't have a flag :)
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> oh duh, the physics class right now isn't doing a lab today, they're taking a test
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> that means 4.5 hours until the next lab, yay!  :)
22:24 <mkzelda> <!--flag>turkey.svg</flag-->
22:24 <mkzelda> yea thats it, mordoor, dunedain and turkey is commented
22:24 <mkzelda> as far as *specifying*
22:24 <mkzelda> in the xml
22:24 <mkzelda> i can put in some value for the first two and uncomment turkey
22:24 <mkzelda> and then worry about the flag not existing otherwise
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I remember commenting turkey myself for some reason, but I forget why
22:25 <mkzelda> yea i knew i didnt do it
22:25 <mkzelda> cause its pr0n o.O
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> ?
22:25 <mkzelda> :D jk
22:26 <mkzelda> i get connection refused when i try to start a local game
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah, that's probably the server failing to start
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> there's some coding todos involved in fixing that :)
22:26 <mkzelda> and an error when i start the server too
22:26 <mkzelda> k
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> oops, my fault there
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22:27 <mkzelda> i'd be cool if the civ_chooser dialog was independent of the server or even local server for me the sake of me testing
22:27 <mkzelda> hackmode
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, svn update to get a fix for that
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> stupid parse errors on account of not doing a sanity check before committing, sorry
22:28 <mkzelda> im moving this over to eugenics for the copypasta
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, the check of valid servers is done on the server
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> ko
22:29 <epsy> gonna go
22:29 <epsy> cya
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22:46 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
22:47 <wrtlprnft> #ping
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22:49 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
22:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is -947 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Fortress Café (11/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10/16), Norm's Place (10/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (8/12), The Dip Bowl (8/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6/12), ~\Yg\~ Dyno's Server (6/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (1 more message)
22:50 <wrtlprnft> this is 1st class data from the future!
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> wow
22:51 <wrtlprnft> *insert rant about cheap internal clocks in computers here*
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> looks like we'll want to play on fort cafe in about 900 seconds or so
22:51 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:52 <Vanhayes_> #g 900 seconds in minutes
22:52 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:52 <Vanhayes_> oh ya, still doent work
22:52 <Vanhayes_> doesn't*
23:00 <wrtlprnft> -339 now
23:07 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
23:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 110 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13/14), Fortress Café (11/32), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (10/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (10/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10/16), Norm's Place (10/12), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (8/12), The Dip Bowl (8/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6/12), ~\Yg\~ Dyno's Server (6/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (1 more message)
23:12 <armabot> Wireshark: wmeier * r22137 /trunk/epan/dissectors/packet-armagetronad.c: Fix windows build error ....
23:13 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
23:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 9 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14/14), Fortress Café (11/32), Norm's Place (11/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (10/12), ~"XzL.Clan The Server (10/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (8/12), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - Scots Div. Arma Clan :. (7/8), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5/6), Totron - Powered classic game (5/16), ~\Yg\~ Dyno's Server (5/6), Swampland in 2.7.1 (2 more messages)
23:13 <wrtlprnft> finally
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01:51 <John_W> anyone here atm?
01:52 <_Sticky_> yup
01:52 <John_W> heya
01:52 <John_W> john/levi here
01:52 <_Sticky_> hay
01:52 <John_W> thought I'd check out the irc channel
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03:07 <Vanhayes_> #tea
03:07 <armabot> Vanhayes_: Fortress Café: No online players.
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04:28 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: ping 8-)
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04:38 <Durka> :O
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05:11 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: ping
05:49 <mkzelda> #tea
05:49 <armabot> mkzelda: Fortress Café: No online players.
05:49 <mkzelda> #armaservers
05:49 <armabot> mkzelda: This data is 2 seconds old; ~*SpeederS*~ Server (11/12), Wild West  =Capture The Flag= (9/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Wild West  =Sumo= (7/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (7/12), GEMINI PROJECT (5/6), G-Land (4/8), MicroBusCity.com (4/16), Norm's Place (4/12), http://outerlimits.notlong.com (3/5), Server.iZm (3/8), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d - Scots Div. Arma Clan :. (1 more message)
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07:16 <MrBougo> hiho
07:31 <Durka> :P
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07:31 <MrBougo> heh
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09:59 <_Sticky_> hay genk
09:59 <_Sticky_> bit late in the us isnt it ?
10:05 <Stempo> nah it's only 1am for me
10:06 <Stempo> (sorry was updating resume)
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12:10 <eddiefantastic> Hello
12:11 <eddiefantastic> Can anyone give me any clues why everytime.cfg is not working with the lastest version, or is it me?
12:14 <eddiefantastic> Does it parse everytime.cfg when in single player mode? or just when running as a server?
12:14 <eddiefantastic> never tried it before
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13:46 <epsy> hi
13:47 <epsy> mkzelda: hay
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14:05 <Ady-Lucifer> #tea
14:06 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Gryzor, mAyn, Monkey, RED DEMON
14:06 <epsy> =)
14:06 <Ady-Lucifer> #serverinfo elimi
14:06 <armabot> Ady-Lucifer: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (6/16): A Yummy Cookie, CT×´nreal, NeerG, Neo, segv, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ
14:06 <Ady-Lucifer> hi
14:06 <Ady-Lucifer> cu
14:06 <epsy> cmoncmon on cfe
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15:00 <digitx:#armagetron> .
15:07 <epsy:#armagetron> cafe someone ?
15:07 <epsy:#armagetron> #tea
15:07 <armabot:#armagetron> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
15:50 <epsy:#armagetron> wrtlprnft: instead of having explosions on the automap...
15:50 <epsy:#armagetron> ...you could put players names...
15:50 <epsy:#armagetron> ...and glow yourself...
15:51 <epsy:#armagetron> ...and your teammates
15:51 <epsy:#armagetron> #monologue
15:51 <armabot:#armagetron> epsy: Your current monologue is at least 10^42 lines long.
16:17 -!- Irssi: You are now talking in #armagetron
16:18 <wrtlprnft> explosions on the minimap come for free :D
16:23 <epsy> :O
16:23 <epsy> i have to pay ?
16:24 <wrtlprnft> no
16:25 <wrtlprnft> it was not much work implementing explosions
16:25 <wrtlprnft> and i only did it because i was working on the hud map, anyways
16:25 <wrtlprnft> to render zones again
16:26 <epsy> oh
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16:37 <Durka:#armagetron> #hello :P
16:37 <armabot:#armagetron> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: panic("Lucy in the sky...."); || linux-2.2.16/arch/sparc64/kernel/starfire.c
16:41 <epsy:#armagetron> hay dorka
16:46 <Durka:#armagetron> :O
16:47  * digitx:#armagetron is away (bye)
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16:51 <Durka:#armagetron> eddiefantastic: ping :P
16:51 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> pong
16:51 <Durka:#armagetron> hi :)
16:51 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> hey
16:52 <Durka:#armagetron> Your script isn't outputing
16:52 <Durka:#armagetron> aka 'my stats are broken and haven't updated in a while :O'
16:52 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> which script isn't outputting what?
16:52 <Durka:#armagetron> Angel is coming on right now
16:52 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> did she restart the script?
16:52 <epsy:#armagetron> here ?
16:53 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> that happens if it loses it's connection to mysql
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16:54 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> hi Angel
16:54 <Durka:#armagetron> :P
16:55 <Angel-H:#armagetron> hi eddiefantastic :)
16:55 <Angel-H:#armagetron> :P Durka
16:55 <Durka:#armagetron> <eddiefantastic> did she restart the script?
16:55 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> I don't know, did she? ;)
16:55 <Angel-H:#armagetron> yes the scripts been restarted a couple of times
16:56 <Angel-H:#armagetron> via putty which i hated doing :P
16:56 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> has anything changed on the mysql server?
16:56 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> haha
16:56 <Angel-H:#armagetron> no nothing has changed
16:56 <eddiefantastic:#armagetron> have you restarted mysql?
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16:57 <Angel-H:#armagetron> to be honest, no, but i think Sylv would have done that
16:57 <Loor:#armagetron> heh, you are to angel
16:58 <Angel-H> he had a look to see what the problem was the first time it happened and the script had frozen, he restarted it
16:58 <eddiefantastic> so, what happens? nothing is getting written to the database?
16:58 <Angel-H> ive restarted it twice since then
16:58 <Durka> hi Loor
16:58 <Angel-H> hi Loor
16:58 <Angel-H> Durka sooooooooo how do you knwo its not working exactly ?
16:59 <Loor> hi durka, wb, hi angel
16:59 <Durka> because I have been stuck (same with everyone else) at 996 rounds played for about 3 weeks
16:59 <Durka> and, new names haven't appeared in the search bar
17:00 <Angel-H> thats since i restarted it again i think
17:00 <Loor> yes, like Alyss hans't appeared anywhere!
17:01 <epsy> angel-H: crazy, i was searching you at the time
17:01 <Loor> well, i gtg. nice to see you again durka!
17:01 <eddiefantastic> what does sylv say?
17:01 <Durka> bye
17:01 <Loor> :)
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17:01 <epsy> angel-h: http://www.box.net/shared/i04k30ecm7#1:3126248:71043403
17:02 <Angel-H> hi Epsy :)
17:03 <epsy> hay angel
17:03 <Angel-H> ed Sylv says he can't see what the problem is and that it should be outputting the info
17:03 <epsy> some rendering bug on your site in the given limk
17:04 <eddiefantastic> and you have plenty of free disk space?
17:04 <Angel-H> yes ed
17:04 <Angel-H> epsy im just looking at it
17:04 <eddiefantastic> can you connect to mysql from the cli?
17:06 <Angel-H> i left checking the db to sylv as hes so much better than me
17:07 <Angel-H> he did say the script is a lil buggy
17:08 <Angel-H> Durka when i restarted the script before, did it work for any time at all ?
17:08 <epsy> angel-h: this happens everywhere exept on the forum
17:09 <Angel-H> epsy its strange as i never have a problem and thankyou for looking :)
17:09 <epsy> firefox 2,0 on osx
17:10 <eddiefantastic> without taking a look on the server I don't know angel. It's not doing anything fancy
17:10 <eddiefantastic> just sends simple database updates to mysql
17:11 <eddiefantastic> have you changed anything on the arma side of things?
17:11 <Angel-H> im wondering if the restart had any effext at all
17:11 <eddiefantastic> you restarted ddl?
17:11 <eddiefantastic> or the server?
17:12 <Angel-H> i restarted the script, and ddl gets restarted every day via a cron job
17:12 <eddiefantastic> have you got the script outputting anything to screen?
17:13 <Angel-H> when i loaded the putty screen i could see the script running, but it looked like it was looping
17:13 <eddiefantastic> in what way?
17:14 <Angel-H> like the same info was being transmitted, not updating with what was happening on the server
17:15 <eddiefantastic> can you type: tail -fn0 /path/to/ddl/ladderlog.txt
17:15 <eddiefantastic> make sure that is ok
17:15 <eddiefantastic> that is the data that gets fed into the parser script
17:15 <Angel-H> you want me to type that into the putty screen ? sorry for being such a noob
17:16 <eddiefantastic> yeah ;)
17:16 <Durka> site isn't broken
17:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:16 <Durka> luke-jr_work: ...
17:17 <Angel-H> ed you do realise im scared of putty :P
17:17 <eddiefantastic> I know, I'm sorry
17:17 <eddiefantastic> just give me the password, I'll fix it for you in 10 minutes, then change the password
17:18 <Angel-H> ok and thankyou :)
17:18 <Durka> eddiefantastic to the rescue! :P
17:18 <Angel-H> and no putty for angel :P
17:18  * eddiefantastic hopes he can fix it in 10 minutes
17:18 <epsy> hehe
17:18  * Angel-H will slap Durka if you cant :)
17:18 <Durka> :P
17:19 <Angel-H> ok i will get the info for you ed :)
17:19 <eddiefantastic> ok
17:22 <Angel-H> epsy thanks for thr heads up about my site, its a weird fault as its not showing for everyone
17:22 <epsy> :/
17:23 <Angel-H> these things happen to me lol
17:23 <epsy> heh
17:36 <epsy> #tea
17:36 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:36 <epsy> #ctwf
17:37 <armabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): (god), <CT><Kyle>, Akrud, ct_PTA, CT|orly?, Fiyawerx, K alf ñ	thelast, mañn, POYASTROL, ruben, [mho]ese, \Delete(d)/, \|/ Indiana
17:49 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:59 <epsy> Indeed!
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19:11 <wrtlprnft> eddiefantastic: Uncle Scooby? Now that's not in http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/happydayslyrics.html
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19:39 <Durka> Vanhayes :)
19:40 <MrBougo> Durka :)
19:40 <MrBougo> heh Vanhayes, sup?
19:40 <Durka> Bougo :)
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19:40 <Durka> hi G5 :)
19:41 <G5_Ger> Hi Durka
19:41 <Durka> :)
19:42 <G5_Ger> ;-)
19:42 <G5_Ger> My client displays nice Smilies.
19:42 <Durka> same ;)
19:42 <G5_Ger> B)
19:43  * Durka is center in Fortress Café so /he doesn't have to worry about fucking up the team ;)
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19:44 <G5_Ger> Your Café looks strange, but Im sure it is an error on my end.
19:44 <Durka> lol
19:59 <MrBougo> my client doesnt show smilies
20:00 <epsy> i stopped using colloquy
20:00 <epsy> bugs way too munch
20:03 <MrBougo> do you guys see that spaceship? 
20:03 <wrtlprnft> my client shows smileys
20:03 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: no :(
20:03 <epsy> i see some strange thing
20:04 <Monkey_> rain are u there?
20:04 <MrBougo> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_des_caract%C3%A8res_Unicode/UE000
20:04 <MrBougo> line E20
20:04 <epsy> no he isn't :/
20:04 <MrBougo> i see two spaceships
20:04 <MrBougo> i wonder what font it is
20:04 <epsy> who is admin on rain's server
20:04 <epsy> i know there's some
20:05 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu sans mono doesn't have it, neither does deja_vu sans serif
20:05 <Monkey_> rain is
20:05 <wrtlprnft> and it looks like i don't have any font that contains that character
20:05 <wrtlprnft> Zone à usage privé
20:05 <wrtlprnft> e
20:05 <wrtlprnft> means that people can put whatever they want there
20:06 <wrtlprnft> probably something specific to your font.
20:06 <MrBougo> looks like it comes from fixedsys excelsior font
20:06 <MrBougo> and i wonder where it comes from
20:09 <MrBougo> http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/
20:09 <MrBougo> it looks pretty complete
20:14 <wrtlprnft> hmm, it doesn't have ∛
20:15 <MrBougo> ∛ ?
20:15 <MrBougo> gtg
20:15 <wrtlprnft> qubic root
20:15 <wrtlprnft> cya
20:16 <MrBougo> hehe
20:16 <MrBougo> bye
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20:17  * wrtlprnft thinks he
20:18 <wrtlprnft> 'll stick with deja_vu for his primary fixedwidth font
20:21 <epsy> wrtlprnft: Time2 plugin for armabot isn't enabled
20:22 <wrtlprnft> #unload time
20:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:22 <wrtlprnft> #load Time2
20:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
20:23 <epsy> ty
20:24 <Vanhayes> #tea
20:24 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): @^@², awesome, Durka FanClub, G5, Gonzap, Sithy, ~*SP*~PsYkO
20:28 <Durka> Vanhayes: ping
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21:03 <hoop> .
21:03 <wrtlprnft> ..
21:03 <hoop> ...
21:03 <wrtlprnft> ::
21:03 <hoop> ._
21:04 <wrtlprnft> __
21:04 <hoop> \__
21:04 <wrtlprnft> \__/
21:04 <luke-jr_work> Pidgin sucks
21:04 <wrtlprnft> wtf is pidgin?
21:04 <hoop>  __
21:04 <hoop>  /      \
21:05 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: "Gaim"
21:05  * wrtlprnft was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin
21:06 <wrtlprnft> i thought you were talking about the “conversation” between hoop and me
21:06 <hoop> *.....
21:07 <wrtlprnft> *·*·*·*·*
21:08 <hoop> °ooOo°oO0o0Oo°o
21:09 <wrtlprnft> øºØ
21:09 <hoop> :;,:;,:.,;,.;:
21:10 <wrtlprnft> •·…•·…·•
21:13 <hoop> »»»«»»»«»»«»»»««««»»«»
21:14 <wrtlprnft> „hello” „hallo“ ≤math takk≥
21:14 <wrtlprnft> *talk
21:15 <hoop> ··:·· ·:.::·
21:16 <wrtlprnft> åäëïöü
21:17 <hoop> ßðđ“ ßðđjĸ, þøðłłß. þŋþŋþŋ.
21:17 <hoop> æłßł€ø!
21:17 <hoop> →→→→→→→→→
21:17 <wrtlprnft> ↑←↓→
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21:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v hoop] by ChanServ
21:18 <wrtlprnft> +++++++
21:20  * P4 .--. ....- ---... ---... ... .-.. .- .--. ... .... --- --- .--. .-- .. - .... .- -... .-.. ..- . ... -.-. .-. --- .-.. .-.. --- ..-. - --- .-- -. .--. --- .-. - .- .-..
21:21 <luke-jr_work> .............
21:21 <luke-jr_work> π
21:22 <P4> •--• ••••-   ---••• ---•••   -•- - ---   --•• -• •-   -•- --- -••   -- --- •-• ••• •- ••--•• ? :)
21:26 <+hoop> ª¢Ł®ªđ đ ¢®ªªđ đ€! ŧħñłß. łøł
21:26 <+hoop> łøł
21:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070407
21:31 <P4> #afl
21:31 <armabot> AFL: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League ••• Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar ••• Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers ••• Forums: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=16881
21:31 <P4> when afl would be plaid?
21:47 <G5_Ger> Does this look any good: Café
21:49 <G5_Ger>    ¡!
21:50 <epsy> g5: how to type this ? :P
21:51 <G5_Ger>  Alt Shift + (on German keyboard, + not from number block)
21:52 <G5_Ger> ㊅
21:53 <G5_Ger> ๙
21:54 <G5_Ger> ⌘ ⌥ 4
21:54 <epsy> err
21:54 <epsy> 
21:54 <G5_Ger> If u r on Win or Linux, what do u c?
21:54 <epsy> nothing
21:55 <G5_Ger> ⌛
21:55 <epsy> just its unicode numbwer
21:56 <G5_Ger> ⌘ ⌥ ⇧ 4
21:56 <epsy> £
21:56 <G5_Ger> I need to ☏ u some day :)
21:56 <epsy> :O
21:57 <epsy> you already have my nummer :P
21:57 <G5_Ger> ☢
21:57 <epsy> :O
21:57 <G5_Ger> Maybe I better send a ✉
21:58 <G5_Ger> ⤵
21:58  * wrtlprnft sees ⌘ ⌥ ⇧ ๙ ✉ ☢ ⌥
21:58 <wrtlprnft> tbe
21:58 <wrtlprnft> *the others are boxes
21:59 <G5_Ger> And what do u c? Command, Alt, Shift, whatever, Letter, Radioactive, Alt ???
22:00 <G5_Ger> ∜ (4th root)
22:00 <wrtlprnft> the second one is a y flipped vertically
22:00 <wrtlprnft> whatever = some sort of alpha looking thing
22:00 <G5_Ger> Yep, thats Alt on the Mac keyboard
22:01 <wrtlprnft> don't see the quartic root
22:01 <G5_Ger> yep, some Arabic (or whatever) char
22:01 <wrtlprnft> the others are all as you described them
22:02 <wrtlprnft> oh, and i do see that skull symbol, too
22:02 <G5_Ger> ⓣ t in circle
22:02 <wrtlprnft> forgot to copy and paste it
22:02 <G5_Ger> I never used a skull ... ???
22:03 <wrtlprnft> ooonh
22:03 <wrtlprnft> that's supposed to be a phone
22:03 <wrtlprnft> too small to see
22:03 <G5_Ger> ℉ deg Fahrenheit
22:03 <wrtlprnft> 21:56 <G5_Ger> I need to ☏ u some day :)
22:03 <G5_Ger> Yep, its a phone
22:03 <wrtlprnft> guess how i interpreted that
22:03  * wrtlprnft sees the °F, but would have preferred °C :P
22:04 <epsy> wrtl, are you admin on rain's server ?
22:04 <wrtlprnft> i can make myself admin
22:04 <epsy> lol ?
22:04 <wrtlprnft> i'm root, obey me!
22:04 <epsy> :O
22:05 <wrtlprnft> i don't know the ADMIN_PASS, but i could look at the config fike
22:05 <wrtlprnft> *file
22:05 <wrtlprnft> it's my server, after all
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 212
22:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 100
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 32
22:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 0
22:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 32
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> #cinf 100
22:09 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 212
22:09 <wrtlprnft> #cinf -273.15
22:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -459.67
22:09 <wrtlprnft> #finc -500
22:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -295.555555556
22:09 <wrtlprnft> it's stupid!
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> ?
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's intended to translate this:
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
22:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek Marlins, Austin, Texas is 92.3°F (3:08 PM CDT on June 19, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 69.8°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling).
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> see?
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> #finc 92.3
22:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 33.5
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22:10 <Lucifer_arma> now you know how hot it is at my house :)
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22:10 <Lucifer_arma> it would be better if google math still worked
22:16 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/df/mini-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
22:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:23 <wrtlprnft> it would be best if #weather outputted °C
22:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/team/teammap-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
22:26 <epsy> thank you very munch wrtl
22:26 <wrtlprnft> yw
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: it does, if the location it's outputting for is in an area that uses it
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> #weather Rome, Italy
22:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 10:15 PM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Clear. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 ° F. / 31 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. (1 more message)
22:28 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/ID/immortaldynasty-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
22:28 <wrtlprnft> #alias add kinc math calc $1 + 273.15
22:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:28 <wrtlprnft> #kinc 0
22:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 273.15
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias add cink math calc $1 - 273.15
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias add fink "cink [finc $1]"
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:30 <wrtlprnft> #alias add kinf "cinf [kinc $1]"
22:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:30 <wrtlprnft> #cink 273
22:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -0.15
22:30 <wrtlprnft> #fink 79
22:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: -247.038888889
22:31 <wrtlprnft> umm
22:31 <wrtlprnft> err, duh
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #alias add kinc math calc $1 - 273.15
22:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #alias add cink math calc $1 + 273.15
22:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #fink 79
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 299.261111111
22:32 <wrtlprnft> that makes more sense
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #kinf  299.261111111
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 78.9999999998
22:32 <wrtlprnft> that's good enough
22:34 <epsy> mkzelda: bored tonight ?
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22:34 <wrtlprnft> #tea
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (19/32): Bishop, Chevalier, Ðú¦t, Gladiator, Ill, NATAS~*PS*~, pavelo, Player 1, radian, segv, SlµQM, wT:r|Tµ¢jêq, Zop, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ¦Ö¦Genki, ¦Ö¦1sUgArS, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥ Legit
22:34 <wrtlprnft> nice
22:34 <wrtlprnft> that server is more than full, one of them must be specing
22:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/df/cross-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
22:42 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/df/cross-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
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22:45 <eddiefantastic> hello
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22:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/8axes/aim-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
22:58 <_Sticky_> #tea
22:59 <armabot> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): Chevalier, pavelo, Player 1, radian, segv, SlµQM, Zop, |SnYpErZ|Kyle, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥ FoFo, ¦×¥Rico
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23:27 <Monkey_> sticky are u here?
23:27 <_Sticky_> yup
23:28 <Monkey_> come to match now
23:28 <Monkey_> x versus us
23:28 <_Sticky_> which
23:28 <_Sticky_> where
23:28 <Monkey_> cant miss it
23:28 <Monkey_> look for your clan
23:28 <Monkey_> NOW
23:28 <Monkey_> fast
23:28 <Monkey_> ok?
23:28 <_Sticky_> would help if i had a server
23:28 <Monkey_> you cant miss it
23:28 <Monkey_> in list
23:28 <Monkey_> it says MATCH
23:28 <Monkey_> ok?
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Log from 2007-06-20:
--- Day changed Wed Jun 20 2007
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00:15 <wrtlprnft> http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
00:15 <wrtlprnft> During this 789-day reporting period, a total of 1234 different nicks were represented on #armagetron.
00:15 <wrtlprnft> not the number of nicks :)
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 32 people!
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> except 29 of them were Durka
00:17 <epsy> heh
00:17 <wrtlprnft> Luke-Jr wasn't very popular, getting kicked 20 times!
00:18 <wrtlprnft> wah, i'm off the monologue stats!
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> yep
00:18 <epsy> digitx wrote the shortest lines, averaging 8.8 characters per line.
00:18 <epsy> lol
00:18 <wrtlprnft> hi
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> spidey and I have trashed you completely
00:18 <wrtlprnft> vnc
00:18 <wrtlprnft> yes?
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm off capital letters :/
00:18 <epsy> It seems that Dorka's shift-key is hanging: 12.1% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> damn Dorka
00:18 <wrtlprnft> #digitx
00:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: op ja me vnc vnc op vnc ja op vnc op me op me op op me vnc op vnc op me vnc me ja vnc ja ja ja ja
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> Dorka = spidey, right?
00:18 <epsy> For example, like this:
00:18 <epsy>      <Dorka> :O
00:18 <epsy> lol
00:19 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: teach your armabuilder some manners!
00:19 <epsy> lol my quotes are never of any sense
00:19 <wrtlprnft> Another old yeller was armabuilder, who shouted 16.2% of the time!
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> armabuilder wasn't here for very long....
00:20 <wrtlprnft> those stats shouldn't be in %, anyways
00:20 <epsy> cya
00:20 <wrtlprnft> maybe something like UPPERCASE/total * some_factor*log(total)
00:20 <epsy> cya tomorrow
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know about that, but there should definitely be some mechanism to expire old stuff
00:21 <epsy> you should exclude shot likes
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> same problem as the ladder tried to solve, you could come in and score on a stat and keep the record until someone breaks it
00:21 <epsy> you should exclude *short lines
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> but as far as the stats are concerned, you're generally more interested in recent stats
00:21 <epsy> k cya
00:21 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: you're just trying to hide now
00:21 <epsy> :O ?
00:21  * epsy hides to bed
00:22 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: that script isn't intended to be run over such long intervals of time
00:22 <wrtlprnft> it's talking about “reporting period”s
00:22 <Lucifer_arma> true
00:23 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it should be wrapped so it generates multiple reports and a global report :)
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00:24 <wrtlprnft> someone remind me to update my server tomorrow
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> update your server tomorrow
00:24 <wrtlprnft> don't wanna start that rsync while there's players online or they'll love it
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> #m wrtlprnft (hi there!) don't forget to update your server
00:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:25 [notice(#armagetron)] good night, i'm gone
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01:05  * digitx is away (bye)
01:36 <digitx> #kernel
01:36 <armabot> digitx: The latest stable kernel is 2.6.21.5; the latest snapshot of the stable kernel is 2.6.22-rc5-git3; the latest beta kernel is 2.6.22-rc4-mm2.
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06:53 <ThomasM> Ah. Better.
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06:53 <hulett> window move 5
06:53 <MrBougo> ?
06:53 <hulett> Hah. Forgot the /
06:53 <MrBougo> oh ok :p
06:54 <hulett> irssi, client of the past
06:54 <MrBougo> but it's still used
06:54 <MrBougo> and still loved
06:54 <MrBougo> you aren't the only one using irssi here, wrtlprnft does too
06:54 <hulett> Of course. One cannot beat screen+irssi for portability and lack of nasty interfaces.
06:54 <MrBougo> hehe
06:55 <hulett> I love being able to attach/detach to my IRC client and (another irssi instance using BitlBee) IM client from any computer I sit at.
06:56 <MrBougo> that's indeed nice
06:58 <hulett> Of course, people that have me on their IM lists bitch about my being set to mode "Away" for weeks at a time, but that's a feature of having your instant message client 10,000 miles away and forgettable.
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07:08 <epsy> hi
07:08 <MrBougo> hiho
07:08 <MrBougo> t'es matinal
07:10 <epsy> :O
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07:11 <epsy> et toi alors t'es quoi si je suis "matinal"
07:11 <epsy> jdois aller à lecole meme si c'est pour rien foutre
07:13 <MrBougo> xD
07:13 <MrBougo> pas moi
07:19 <epsy> j'yyy go
07:19 <epsy> jvais bouffer un peu
07:20 <epsy> :O
07:20 <epsy> :O o--
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07:20 <epsy> hay
07:20 <Self_Destructo> hi
07:20 <epsy> are you in an afl team ?
07:20 <Self_Destructo> afl?
07:21 <epsy> k nevermind then
07:21 <Self_Destructo> i figured ;)
07:22 <epsy> k cu now
07:22 <epsy> have to go
07:22 <MrBougo> cya
07:22 <MrBougo> have a nicie day
07:22 <epsy> :)
07:22 <epsy> will be back around 13:30 or so
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08:22 <wrtlprnft> hulett: infact, it's not just us two. guru3 is at lease one other guy
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09:23 <MrBougo> bye
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09:43 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka you can't just add/drop players willy-nilly, you have to talk to me or joe to do that.
09:43 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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13:05 <P4> take a look at this crappy crap
13:05 <P4> .armalize [t fr en [t en fr You are the brightest star that ever shone on me]]
13:06 <tronner> The role of the Prime Minister for the hook of is you more who it I luminous of on the polish of never
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13:52 <MrBougo> ho ho hey
13:56 <cusco> oi
14:07 <MrBougo> hi
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15:42 <MrBougo> yawn
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16:10 <MrBougo> bye
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16:45 <epsy> hi
16:46 <wrtlprnft> ih
16:50 <epsy> :O
16:50 <epsy> #lastseen monk
16:50 <armabot> epsy: Monkey has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 2 hours 15 minutes ago.
16:52 <epsy> #armaservers
16:52 <armabot> epsy: This data is 29 seconds old; The Dip Bowl (11/12), ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10/16), Fortress Café (10/32), Wild West  =Wild Fortress= (9/12), Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (8/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8/14), Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5/6), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (5/12), {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (4/13), .: Eclipse'd.EC|d (1 more message)
16:52 <epsy> #tea
16:52 <armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): 1394-kaerf²³	°¯, 555¦Ö¦	awesome, @^@, CT|Tadd, Kamakazi, Player 1, segv, Slash, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ¢S?FlûGG$êl
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16:58 <epsy> durka: seems a screenrader has been activated on my comp :Oo
16:58 <Durka> : O
17:01 <epsy> and i don't kmow how to disable it -.-
17:01 <epsy> *n
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18:17 <mkzelda> http://www.fresh99.com/mike-jones-ninja-turtle.htm
18:38 <epsy> #lastseen monkey
18:38 <armabot> epsy: Monkey seems to be on Swampland in 2.7.1 right now.
18:39 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/solar/ctf/ctf-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by solar
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18:42 <LDS_Trooper> luke-jr_ you there?
18:42 <LDS_Trooper> maybe luke-jr_work?
18:44 <epsy> what info do you want to get ?
18:44 <LDS_Trooper> settings to enter eclipsed@lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org
18:44 <LDS_Trooper> I forgot the pw
18:45 <LDS_Trooper> I was hoping he could reset it for me...
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18:45 <epsy> oh
18:46 <epsy> luke-jr_work: civ ping
18:46 <Rebel_Eclipsed> See I built a new comp and am setting things up there.
18:47 <Rebel_Eclipsed> like WinSCP3 to access it.. but I forgot the pw and don't think I wrote down.. (silly)
18:47 <epsy> let him an email meybe
18:48 <epsy> *maybe
18:48 <Rebel_Eclipsed> yeah
18:49 <Rebel_Eclipsed> wewt! I think I got it!
18:50 <Rebel_Eclipsed> epsy what do you use for IRC?
18:50 <Rebel_Eclipsed> MiRC?
18:54 <epsy> no, xchat
18:54 <Rebel_Eclipsed> ooo nice.. Linux?
18:54 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I like Xchat.
18:54 <epsy> yeah
18:55 <epsy> on osx for now
18:55 <epsy> using xchat aqua xD
18:55 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I have a dual boot with Ubuntu
18:55 <Rebel_Eclipsed> I know I know... not the greatest.. but we like it
18:56 <luke-jr_work> ..
18:56 <epsy> .
18:57 <Rebel_Eclipsed> brb
18:58 <Rebel_Eclipsed> back
18:59 <Rebel_Eclipsed> OK cool I found the PW and got it working.
18:59 <Rebel_Eclipsed> bbiab
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19:05 <epsy> *thinking*
19:05 <epsy> what would be the best for auth: global or per server ?
19:07 <epsy> i would be probably for global, for obvious security reasons
19:08 <epsy> but i'm sure some of you won't share the same view
19:11 <epsy> esp. zman and luci, which are away -.-
19:13 <luke-jr_work> per server is stupid
19:13 <luke-jr_work> nobody is going to want to make unique passwords for every server
19:14 <luke-jr_work> and if the passwords ARENT unique, they're useless cuz every server admin can get them
19:14 <epsy> then you share my view
19:15 <luke-jr_work> epsy: you going to code it?
19:15 <luke-jr_work> the concept is already done
19:15 <epsy> where's the concept ?
19:19 <epsy> well, i did it exteranlly...in a per server manner
19:19 <epsy> then got to the idea to port it to c++/arma
19:19 <epsy> and came to the idea to autologin
19:20 <epsy> which immediately scared me
19:20 <epsy> so i made a workaround
19:21 <epsy> and came to the conclusion the only manner to prevent such a password collecting gap
19:21 <epsy> was centralized auth
19:22 <epsy> which scared me too
19:25 <epsy> away
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19:45 <luke-jr_work> epsy: except there is already a decentralized network
19:47 <luke-jr_work> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=XMPP_Based_Authentication
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20:55 <G5_Ger> Hi
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21:08 <Monkey_> hi
21:08 <G5_Ger> Hi Monkey
21:09 <G5_Ger> Yesterday, the match was ... not so good.
21:09 <Monkey_> it was good for one reason
21:09 <Monkey_> we need practice in organising
21:09 <Monkey_> and to learn from mistakes
21:21 <P4> #afl
21:21 <armabot> AFL: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Armagetron_Fortress_League ••• Calendar: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Calendar ••• Servers: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=AFL_Servers ••• Forums: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=16881
21:21 <Monkey_> p4 :\/\/\/
21:21 <Monkey_> p4 you need maybe to get a couple more CTers for your list...
21:22 <P4> Monkey_: they dont want to play (even train)
21:22 <P4> maybe they want... but there's no initiative respond
21:23 <Monkey_> i asked some of them and they were very interested
21:23 <Monkey_> is square not playing btw?
21:24 <P4> really dunno
21:24 <P4> .lastseen square
21:24 <tronner> P4: CT|Square has last been seen on Bugfarm Elimination Sumo 0 days 7 hours 10 minutes ago.
21:24 <Monkey_> i played with him today
21:25 <P4> he got to check forums or goto irc more often
21:25 <Monkey_> he is useless :)
21:25 <Monkey_> kick his butt p4
21:26 <P4> s\he's quite good :P
21:26 <P4> he :P
21:26 <Monkey_> if i see him i will ask him...but tonight is deadline
21:26 <Monkey_> i dont mean useless in skill i mean he is a fool
21:26 <P4> i know taht
21:26 <P4> :|
21:26 <Monkey_> he brain is made of chees
21:26 <Monkey_> e
21:28 <G5_Ger> I am the only one with trouble reaching the Wiki?
21:28 <Monkey_> yes
21:29 <G5_Ger> Monkey: STFU :)
21:29 <Monkey_> g5 sort out your connection...
21:30 <Monkey_> is wrtl here?
21:30 <G5_Ger> My conn is ok. Traceroute ends at xe-1-2.r00.lsanca17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
21:30 <G5_Ger> After 14 hops
21:30 <Monkey_> who do we need to let us use the servers for organised game? we dont want to keep pestering developers/admins..they will get angry, even more than usual...
21:32 <Monkey_> ok i go to eat now g5, you keep an eye out for people etc...do some organising ;)
21:32 <G5_Ger> ok
21:39 <G5_Ger> who's the wiki admin?
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21:48 <epsy> #realchatlogs
21:48 <armabot> epsy: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
21:50 <epsy> g5_ger: lucifer_arma is
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22:23 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:23 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): diana, ~{GP}~ Gabor
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22:32 <P4> #tea
22:32 <armabot> P4: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): =T=~Legionnaire, diana, Gonzap, ~{GP}~ Gabor
22:32 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
22:33  * epsy jumps
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23:48 <madmax|pt> hello
23:50 <deja_vu> hey madmax|pt

Log from 2007-06-21:
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00:27 <P4> when i use that pipe $parser | tron | tea i cannot send any commands in screened server console, is it normal pipe behaviour??
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00:47 <_Sticky_> #tea
00:47 <armabot> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Indigo, madmax, Mirakuru, ntc, Radian, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	~*
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01:49 <hulett> wrtlprnft: Hah. I, too, judiciously use message highlights to carry on IRC conversations with days/hours of pause.
02:06 <duudii> test
02:09 <luke-jr_> hulett:
02:09 <hulett> Hrm?
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> ...
02:10 <luke-jr_> ...
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> #m Durka how close to game time you can add/drop depends entirely on when you can talk to a judge.  It's not "notify a judge", it's "seek the approval of a judge", and then it's the judge's call whether or not you can do the add/drop.
02:11 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
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06:10 <mkzelda> hahaha
06:10 <mkzelda> i was playin tron and my left turns werent working sometimes so i pulled the keys off my keyboard to try and see if i had something stuck in there
06:11 <mkzelda> and i found some weed
06:11 <mkzelda> haha
06:11 <mkzelda> and since ive been on probation for 2 years 9 months, i guess thats been there all that time
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06:17 <mkzelda> im gonna pull all the keys off now
06:22 <mkzelda> theres some pieces of cookies from christmas
06:22 <mkzelda> sad thing is i dont think i had those cookies this past christmas
06:23 <mkzelda> 7/-1.
06:23 <mkzelda> 3
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07:25 <wrtlprnft> hulett: aren't awaylogs a great thing?
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12:34 <arctanx> I have a question... where do you run the dedicated server if you compile from source?
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13:03 <MrBougo> nder
13:03 <MrBougo> oops
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14:31 <wrtlprnft> arctanx: you need to ./configure --disable-glout
14:31 <arctanx> ahah
14:31 <wrtlprnft> you can only either compile the client or server
14:32 <wrtlprnft> bad sentence.
14:32 <arctanx> so it was in ./configure --help :P
14:32 <arctanx> thanks
14:32 <wrtlprnft> yw
14:32 <wrtlprnft> i know, the name sort of sucks
14:32 <wrtlprnft> it's not what you would ever search for
14:33 <arctanx> I got stuck too by make install not working if you rename the armagetron-0.2.8.2.1 dir to armagetron :P
14:33 <arctanx> funny stuff
14:35 <arctanx> I'm trying to set up a server on my virtual server in america
14:35 <arctanx> will probably be unplayable from here :P
14:40 <arctanx> hmm 280ish
14:40 <arctanx> so would depend on game type
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16:45 <MrBougo> hey there
16:46 <philippeqc> hi
16:46 <philippeqc> Have you seen ed's maps?
16:46 <philippeqc> Really neat
16:46 <