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Log from 2007-06-06:
--- Day changed Wed Jun 06 2007
00:01 <mkzelda> luke-jr_: my portage tree is only ~600mb
00:01 <mkzelda> u counting distfiles or distfiles/cvs-or-svn-src
00:01 <luke-jr_work> for comparison, the lowest I have right now is a
00:02 <luke-jr_work> socket 754 3100+ for $93
00:03 <mkzelda> any of those 3 interest u?
00:04 <luke-jr_work> if they include a CPU heatsink/fan that's small enough
00:04 <luke-jr_work> :p
00:05 <mkzelda> set top box?
00:05 <luke-jr_work> 1U
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00:05 <mkzelda> oh
00:05 <ghableska> !weather 50266
00:05 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 76.6°F (5:04 PM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM to 10 PM CDT Wednesday...
00:05 <mkzelda> yea i doubt that its small enough for that
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00:06 <mkzelda> they dont specify what kind of heatsink/fan but its just a generic, prolly the one that comes w/ the cpu
00:07 <luke-jr_work> hm
00:07 <luke-jr_work> the $93 one I put together on newegg includes 1U fan
00:07 <luke-jr_work> and shipping
00:07 <mkzelda> sounds like a winner then
00:08 <luke-jr_work> hm
00:08 <mkzelda> u have to put a vid card on it tho?
00:08 <luke-jr_work> know any coupon codes
00:08 <luke-jr_work> I don't need video out
00:08 <luke-jr_work> SSH LiveCD :D
00:08 <mkzelda> didnt figure
00:09 <mkzelda> nah, no coupon codes
00:10 <luke-jr_work> I hope 200W is enough...
00:12 <mkzelda> sempron 3100+ ?
00:12 <mkzelda> and what hds?
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00:18 <luke-jr_work> mkzelda: already have 80 GB HD
00:18 <luke-jr_work> not sure on brand etc
00:18 <luke-jr_work> unfortunately, even at $93 I'm over budget
00:18 <luke-jr_work> since PSU was about $10
00:19 <luke-jr_work> unless I sell the 4 extras at a profit... then it's $-9.50 :p
00:19 <luke-jr_work> but I blew a PSU last night
00:22 <luke-jr_work> any other good sites for parts besides newegg?
00:28 <mkzelda> zipzoomfly, 3btech, usually reference pricewatch
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh, player ready button toggle is reaching the server finally
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01:54 <Lucifer_arma> haha, the thing is designed so luke can't spam us :)
01:55  * P4 is listening to DJ Guyver & DJ Zurg - Neophyte World Tour Moscow 2006 right now.
01:55 <P4> ;D
01:56 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: you guys spam more than I do
01:56 <P4> i just go to sleep :P so night :}
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> really?  so every time we play freeciv, you only hit "start game" once, and we all hit it hundreds of times?
01:59 <Lucifer_arma> for eugenics it'll be a toggle instead.  So once you hit it, if you hit it a second time it means you're not ready any more
02:00 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: that's how it is in Freeciv...
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> maybe freeciv 2.1, but we (I) haven't played a lot of freeciv 2.1
02:05 <Vanhayes> ya 2.1 makes it just say ready by your name iirc
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> now I need a player sync message
02:10 <Lucifer_arma> first I need a cigarrette
02:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: if I write the XMPP, will you use it?
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> depends entirely on how it looks
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> and dependencies
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm about to go to xml for the messages themselves, though, because the player sync message needs more sophisticated parsing than I'm doing so far
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> but it would be shoe-in if it also had a method like GetEvent() that converted the message to an event.  That's next on my list for the network layer, translating itself to events as well as encoding for transmission, but I want to do other stuff first
02:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: can I have a branch to work on so you can comment on it?
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm, maybe?  :)
02:25 <luke-jr_> ...
02:25 <tronner> luke-jr_, ...
02:25 <luke-jr_> tronner: stfu
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> just do an svn copy from my repo to your own.  You do have your own svn server, right?
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> ah, now I have to do unicode support in the network layer too
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> (isn't hard, just a couple of lines)
02:27 <luke-jr_> not really
02:27 <luke-jr_> and wouldn't I lose the history?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but is that such a big loss?
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> see, I have to weigh this against giving someone I don't really trust write access to my svn server, which I don't really want to do
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> nor do I want to spend a lot of time on this, so however you go about writing the code is up to you
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take diffs
02:41 <luke-jr_> not my fault you don't trust me
02:41 <luke-jr_> and there's always per-directory acls
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02:42 <Lucifer_arma> [19:43] <Lucifer_arma> nor do I want to spend a lot of time on this
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02:58 <kamp> aw
02:58 <kamp> no one here?
02:58 <ghableska> hi kamp
02:58 <kamp> hey mang
02:58 <kamp> move from des moines yet?
02:58 <ghableska> no...
02:59 <kamp> masochist
02:59 <ghableska> :p
02:59 <kamp> how's your summer goin
02:59 <ghableska> well, I had my finals last week and monday
02:59 <ghableska> and now I'm free!
03:00 <kamp> i'm not
03:00 <kamp> :(
03:00 <kamp> summer classes have been in swing for about three weeks now :)
03:01 <ghableska> ha
03:01 <kamp> yep
03:01 <kamp> any plans for the summer?
03:01 <ghableska> none at all
03:02 <kamp> get
03:02 <kamp> a
03:02 <kamp> job
03:02 <kamp> :)
03:02 <ghableska> heh
03:02 <ghableska> *maybe*
03:02 <kamp> which grade are you in?
03:03 <ghableska> going to be in 11th
03:05 <kamp> get yourself a job
03:05 <kamp> get used to it :)
03:05 <ghableska> good point
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03:08 <kamp> yep
03:08 <kamp> just work like 20 hrs a week or something
03:09 <kamp> it's good to get some money anyway :)
03:09 <kamp> I'd recommend trying to work in a record store
03:09 <luke-jr_> I just made an amazing discovery
03:09 <kamp> I liked it: you get to find out about some new music
03:09 <luke-jr_> ATi Radeon X850 == AMD Athlon64 3200+
03:09 <kamp> ...
03:09 <tronner> kamp, ...
03:09 <luke-jr_> seriously
03:09 <kamp> tronner: ...?
03:10 <luke-jr_> I get the same FPS whether I use hw accel or software GL
03:10 <kamp> luke-jr_: how is that amazing?
03:10 <luke-jr_> i expected better from video card GPUs
03:11 <kamp> still waiting for an explanation on how this is amazing in any way shape or form
03:14 <kamp> ah forget it
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03:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh, now I have to write a lot of gui code to get the playersync to show
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03:31 <Lucifer_arma> ...
03:31 <tronner> Lucifer_arma, ...
03:32 <ghableska> tronner, ...
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: ...
03:32 <ghableska> !weather 50266
03:32 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.0°F (8:34 PM CDT on June 05, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM to 10 PM CDT Wednesday...
03:33 <Your_mom_arma> isn't wrtlprnft on vacation?(think that's why armabot is gone?)
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> far as I know, he went to italy for a little while
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> and is away from internet, so he can't fix armabot
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love the model/view stuff in qt, but writing a new model is always a pain
03:35  * Lucifer_arma goes to see if qabstractlistmodel supports multiple columns
03:37 <ghableska> http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page <-- o_O
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> Everything you post must be true and verifiable.
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> then, later:
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> When referencing dates based on the approximate birth of Jesus, give appropriate credit for the basis of the date (B.C. or A.D.). "BCE" and "CE" are unacceptable substitutes because they deny the historical basis. See CE
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> so the conservapedia commandments are also self-contradictory :)
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> for some reason I want to see a liberapedia to offset conservapedia
03:48 <spidey> ghableska:
03:48 <ghableska> spidey:
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> wikipedia is only liberally biased because reality has a liberal bias
03:48 <ghableska> heh
03:48 <spidey> my pos ati card gave me a present
03:48 <spidey> hl2dm :D
03:48 <ghableska> grrr
03:49 <spidey> peoples with radeons get it free
03:49 <ghableska> I know :/
03:49 <spidey> i like it
03:49 <spidey> except that one gun
03:49 <spidey> all it does is glow
03:49 <spidey> and shake
03:50 <ghableska> the gravity gun?
03:50 <spidey> maybe
03:50 <ghableska> you're supposed to fling toilets at people using that
03:51 <spidey> o
03:51 <ghableska> is it orange-colored?
03:51 <spidey> ya
03:51 <ghableska> yeah, that's the grav gun
03:51 <spidey> cs:s bbl
03:51 <ghableska> right click to pick up an object, left click to launch it :D
03:51 <spidey> ah
04:09 <mkzelda> i get nothing when i go to the conservapedia
04:09 <mkzelda> page loads blank
04:10 <mkzelda> not even an <html></html>
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably for the best
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, eugenics has a player list now
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> going home
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04:46 <ghableska> !night
04:46 <BotSub> Goodnight ghableska :(
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) ping
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a start up a eugenics server again, I want to test the user list and the Ready button
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> then I'm a grab a smoke
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> svn update is needed
05:31 <Your_mom_arma> hmm... it isn't running
05:34 <Your_mom_arma> doesn't seem to be working :/
05:38 <GodTodd> spam alert:
05:38 <GodTodd> Traceback (most recent call last):
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "./eugenics", line 33, in <module>
05:38 <GodTodd>     from libeugenicsgui import mainqt
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/mainqt.py", line 32, in <module>
05:38 <GodTodd>     from libeugenicsgui.qt_proxy import QtProxy
05:38 <GodTodd>   File "/home/todd/eugenics/libeugenicsgui/qt_proxy.py", line 45
05:38 <GodTodd>     <<<<<<< .mine
05:38 <GodTodd>      ^
05:38 <GodTodd> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't get that
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> sure you updated?
05:40 <GodTodd> rev 40 now
05:40 <GodTodd> did it right before running
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> 40 should be the newest, and I don't have any files hanging around
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, line 45 doesn't have anything like that on it in that file
05:43 <GodTodd> <<<<<<< .mine
05:43 <GodTodd> that's my <<<<<<< .mineline 45
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> have you made any local edits?
05:43 <GodTodd> nopee
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> that looks like a conflict marker
05:44 <GodTodd> just opened it up now for the first time
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> delete that file and the svn update again
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> er, hang on, found a new bug
05:46 <GodTodd> there we go...i rm'd anything starting with qt_proxy and then restored qt_proxy.py
05:46 <GodTodd> :)
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok, svn update again to rev41 for the chat bug fix :)
05:47 <GodTodd> same bat channel?
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> yessir
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> assuming my ip hasn't changed
05:49 <Your_mom_arma> still isn't running for me :(
05:49 <GodTodd> did you do what i did, mom?
05:50 <Your_mom_arma> where's qtproxy?
05:50 <GodTodd> libeugenicsgui
05:50 <GodTodd> directory
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05:52 <Your_mom_arma> still isn't working
05:52 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:52 <GodTodd> maybe do a completely clean co?
05:53 <Your_mom_arma> https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics right?
05:53 <GodTodd> looks right
05:54 <GodTodd> !alias add eugenicssvn echo https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
05:54 <BotSub> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
05:54 <GodTodd> !eugenicssvn
05:54 <BotSub> https://svn.davefancella.com/eugenics/trunk/eugenics
05:54 <GodTodd> there :)
05:56 <Your_mom_arma> nope, still not working
05:56 <GodTodd> hrmmm
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> oh no! it's 667!!!
05:58 <GodTodd> across the way neighbor of the beast?
05:58 <Your_mom_arma> :)
06:00 <Your_mom_arma> well, acme and the script(the part that worked) still work so its not python
06:03  * Your_mom_arma shrugs
06:08 <GodTodd> hmm not sure :/
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06:55 <Lucifer_arma> eh?  problem?
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: did you manage to get any error output I could see?
07:01 <Your_mom_arma> when I try to run eugenics all I see is a command prompt pop up for half a second
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: fixed the boolean flag.  It was a client parser bug
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: try running it in a terminal so the command prompt stays up :)
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> er, console
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> you've done that before, right?
07:03 <Your_mom_arma> ImportError: No module named win32api
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> oops
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> ok, update again
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's a module you can install if you want, but I don't remember where the download for it is
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I should've fixed it for you
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> does it work after updating?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> ah, nvm
07:11 <Your_mom_arma> I can see what you type, my chat doesn't go through
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: server's giving me a lot of traceback spam
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> looks like it's having trouble unpacking the timestamp from your messages
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> weird
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> are you on a 64bit machine by any chance?
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> I wish
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> ppc?
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> nope, just a intel p4
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> an*
07:14 <Lucifer_arma>     self.timestamp = datetime.datetime(theField[4],theField[5],theField[6],theField[7],theField[8],theField[9],theField[10] )
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> ValueError: month must be in 1..12
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's when it's unpacking your chat messages
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> does mine just fine :/
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07:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, let's try again
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> should I restart, or just reconnect?
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> reconnect
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> all I did was add some output to the server to help me see what's going on
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07:17 <MrBougo> hi there
07:17 <MrBougo> manta!
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> that's interesting
07:17 <manta> Hi mrbougo
07:17 <MrBougo> me? indeed
07:17 <MrBougo> hello :)
07:18 <MrBougo> what's interesting Lucifer_arma ?
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: have you clicked the Ready button at all?
07:20  * Lucifer_arma wonders if it's making misshapped packets
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> clicking ready messed it up last time, a lot of my chat isn't going through
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> that little problem was supposed to be fixed
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's off by a byte one way or the other
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I need to fool with it some more now, thanks
07:23 <GodTodd> btw...in case we ever need it, i jumped on registering #eugenics
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> Had you pressed the ready button before you started losing packets?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> in the work I did today or late yesterday, I changed the chunk format, that's probably what's breaking it
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's breaking on reading, though
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> I think so... not 100% sure though
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like an off-by-one error
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> says the message is type 32, but the highest available message type is 4
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
07:25  * Lucifer_arma goes to check the formats again
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, no such luck
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> the right endian marks are there
07:26 <luke-jr_> Soylent Green iz ppl
07:26 <Your_mom_arma> !!!
07:26 <BotSub> ???
07:27 <Your_mom_arma> I love that movie
07:28 <manta> lets not get started on the nightmares it gave me, good movie though
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:28 <luke-jr_> that movie was boring
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> boo
07:28 <luke-jr_> of course, I already knew the end when I saw it
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, that's my biography
07:29 <luke-jr_> ...
07:29 <tronner> luke-jr_, ...
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> it looks like a byte order problem
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> but that would happen all the time.... :/
07:33 <MrBougo> bye all
07:34 <MrBougo> it's-a-chool-time!
07:34 <MrBougo> s*
07:34 <MrBougo> biology exam... yay... easy
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07:34 <Lucifer_arma> ok, try again whenever you're ready :)
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect the code I wrote to fix this exact problem before just didn't work and we didn't have a good test before
07:35  * Lucifer_arma needs a way to simulate it
07:35 <Your_mom_arma> should I update?
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> no
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> I'm just adding comments on the server to try to track down what's going on
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> eek, I missed that last comment, mom
07:39 <Your_mom_arma> I hit ready, and nothing happened, then it lost the comment
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's just reading wrong when the whole chunk arrives in pieces.  It's supposed to cache what it has and read some more until it has enough
07:39 <Your_mom_arma> about that happening
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> but something's breaking somewhere in there, so it's reading it incorrectly
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> like maybe it's reading the header, then reading too far into the data chunk
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> which causes the next chunk to be misaligned
07:47 <mkzelda> nexuiz is awesome
07:54  * manta was pwning the first time I played, which leaves a good impression :) ut playes better over dialup though,  
07:55 <mkzelda> ive been finding that the netcode in nexuiz is best ive seen
07:56 <mkzelda> ut what version
07:56 <mkzelda> i used to play the original unreal on dialup a lot and did find it worked quite well w/ my other bud also on dialup
07:56 <mkzelda> now that i remember it
07:56 <mkzelda> but that was on my 233mhz w/ a voodoo2
07:57 <mkzelda> 64,96, or 128mb ram
07:57 <mkzelda> heh, that voodoo2 really lived up to its name
07:57 <mkzelda> it worked some magic to make a 233 perform well
07:57 <manta> ahhh those were the days
08:19 <spidey> O.o
08:20 <manta> has arma ever had trouble tacking up a large number of threads and not releasing them?
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11:00 <guru3> Should I be worried that a moviepack isn't working?
11:00 <guru3> Or rather that my copy of Armagetron seems to be entirely ignoring it?
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13:35 <Ady> hi guys, i need urgent help
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13:36 <epsy> hi
13:37 <Ady> yesterday the game had frozen while switching to a new round and i had to finalize the program with the task manager, since then it doesnt recognize my GPU, it recognizes Microsofts basic one installed on all windows machines, and with that one its impossible to play, before it recognixed my ati, now its all blue , going with microsoft's gdl, and my GPU works perfectly on other games, i tried reinstalling arma and no change, any help 
13:37 <epsy> hay Ady :)
13:37 <Ady> hi :(
13:38 <epsy> what version are oyu using ?
13:38 <Ady> 0.3
13:38 <Ady> im reinstalling my GPU drivers at the moment
13:39 <epsy> try upgrading to a new version, there was such problems on that version, or try downgrading to the stable version
13:39 <Ady> Ive used it since summer 06'
13:39 <epsy> (i personally had these)
13:39 <Ady> and no problems until now :(
13:39 <Ady> any developer could give me some help? ...
13:40 <epsy> you're ady-lucifer, right ?
13:40 <Ady> yes
13:40 <Ady> damn, port scan attack, why all today? ..
13:41 <epsy> what is your OS ? i suppose you're using windows, but it is xp, or vista ?
13:41 <Ady> #get quote 34
13:41 <Ady> xp sp2
13:41 <Ady> #quote 34
13:41 <epsy> ok
13:41 <Ady> #get q 34
13:41 <epsy> Ady, no bot for the moment
13:41 <Ady> ah
13:42 <epsy>  bit processor ?
13:42 <epsy> *
13:42 <epsy> *64
13:42 <Ady> its a p4 HT , think its 32 no? no idea about processors
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13:42 <epsy> pentium 4-m ?
13:42 <Ady> 4 HT normal pentium
13:43 <Ady> no m no dualcore
13:43 <epsy> i think it's p 4-m, as p 4 doesn't have HT
13:43 <epsy> (i have the same here :P )
13:43 <Ady> you know, 0.3 sometimes freezes when entering a server, that happened, but this time it fucked it up all
13:43 <Ady> pentium 4 has hyper threading tech !
13:43 <epsy> yeah, this is a known bug which has been fixed
13:43 <Ady> lol
13:43 <Ady> has been fixed???
13:44 <epsy> but i can't find out any recent build for windows
13:44 <epsy> yes
13:44 <Ady> on the beta page there are, but that client wont work for me
13:44 <Ady> blue screen and ms gdl 1.0 :P
13:44 <epsy> yeah, but these on that page are terribely old
13:44 <epsy> heh
13:44 <Ady> and where are the new ones? sourceforge?
13:45 <epsy> don't we have a buildbot ?
13:45 <Ady> mm...
13:45 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, do you remember ?
13:45 <epsy> wait i'ill look on the forums
13:45 <Ady> thanks
13:47 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, ping :/
13:48 <epsy> hrm he's sleeping :D
13:48 <Ady> lol
13:48 <epsy> .m Lucifer_arma http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is timing out
13:48 <tronner> I have no idea, epsy.
13:49 <epsy> .tell Lucifer_arma http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is timing out
13:49 <Ady> i need to restart- ati drivers reinstalled, be right back in 5 min
13:50 <epsy> ok
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13:55 <Ady1> Hi again
13:56 <Ady1> Epsy, thanks for your help, reinstalling drivers helped Arma catch the GPU again
13:57 <Ady1> But im very interested in getting that version with the fixed bug, if you can help me with that it would be greeat :)
13:58 <epsy> yeah i'm installing a compiler on my windows machine
13:58 <epsy> downloading it now
14:00 <Ady1> mmh, thank you? lol thanks
14:02 <Ady1> epsy i think i got your msn, i will get connected there
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14:03 <epsy> Ady1, ok
14:03 <epsy> but it would be good if you saty on the channel :P
14:03 <Ady1> mmm, ok :)
14:03 <Ady1> i miss the "beep" sound here on new msg  :)
14:06 <Ady1> outch! the settings' fault! I ve reinstalled arma and put there in var my old folder with my config files etc, and it showd the same error! deleting the folder and creating a new clean one no problem..damn
14:07 <Ady1> right, forget that, still broken
14:08 <epsy> yeah i'm trying to build lastet trunk under windows(wow pretty hard)
14:08 <Ady1> o.O ... you dont have to if you dont want, i will find other games ....:( lol
14:10 <Ady1> well, i dont get it, it still catch my gpu as GDI Generic, from microsoft
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14:11 <Ady> m
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14:31 <epsy> Ady2, hold on :)
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14:45 <Ady> epsy , hows it going?
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15:00 <epsy> Ady, confuse :P
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15:19 <Ady> lol
15:20 <Ady> well, arma works fine, i dunno if i need to exploit you like that :)
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15:22 <ghableska> !weather 50266
15:22 <BotSub> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 59.7°F (8:24 AM CDT on June 06, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 28.75 in 973.5 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 10 PM CDT this evening...
15:22  * epsy is searching someone who knows how to compile something on wingblows
15:22 <ghableska> don't ask me :p
15:23 <P4> .weather katowice, poland
15:23 <tronner> P4: The current temperature in Katowice, Poland is 78.8°F (3:00 PM CEST on June 06, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
15:23 <P4> hmm, looks like it's bike's aura :}
15:29 <ghableska> bbl
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16:22 <Ady> .get quote 34
16:22 <tronner> Ady: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
16:22 <Ady> .quote 34
16:22 <tronner> No idea, Ady.
16:22 <Ady> :/
16:23 <Ady> .q 34
16:23 <tronner> Wish I knew.
16:23 <Ady> lol
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16:46 <guru3> Is it a bad sign when you can hear your computers standing outside your door?
16:55 <epsy> err
16:55 <epsy> wtf
17:03 <luke-jr_work> no
17:05 <epsy> http://www.flame-clan.eu/members/Flynn/Tremulous2.0-engine.gif
17:11 <luke-jr_work> NO
17:12 <epsy> heh
17:16 <luke-jr_work> ...no
17:16 <tronner> I have no idea, luke-jr_work.
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18:53 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: why are your computers standing outside your door?  Shouldn't they be in your room?
19:03 <epsy> .list user
19:03 <tronner> epsy: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
19:03 <epsy> .help tell
19:03 <tronner> epsy: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here.
19:03 <epsy> .list later
19:03 <tronner> epsy: notes and tell
19:04 <epsy> .notes Lucifer_arma
19:04 <tronner> epsy: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
19:04 <epsy> errr
19:04 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, http://buildbot.davefancella.com:9990/ is times out,
19:04 <epsy> *-is
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: ahhh, where'd you get that link?
19:13 <Lucifer_arma> the one you want is http://waterfall.davefancella.com
19:14 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=12481&highlight=buildbot
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Project_Documentation
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> wiki overrules the forums because forum posts get stale while the wiki is updated regularly
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> :)
19:17 <epsy> :P
19:18  * Lucifer_arma quietly ignores that the wiki hadn't been updated with the new links either, but at least it had newer information than the forums
19:19 <luke-jr_work> grr
19:19 <epsy> hehehe
19:20 <luke-jr_work> is it possible to underclock DDR2 to DDR1?
19:20 <luke-jr_work> since DDR1 now costs 2x what DDR2 does
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I fixed whatever broke my buildslave the last time
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering moving my buildslave to a new box
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> you know, so it'll always be available
19:28 <guru3> Lucifer_arma: -_-
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19:31 <MrBougo> helo
19:31 <MrBougo> epsy: lan?
19:31 <MrBougo> epsy: mais quoi en lan au juste? xD
19:31 <MrBougo> nexuiz ou trem?
19:32 <epsy> ton mod de merde XD
19:32 <MrBougo> :D
19:32 <MrBougo> et comment tu veux faire ça en lan?
19:33 <ghableska> hi MrBougo
19:33 <MrBougo> c'est possible de simuler de la LAN par le net?
19:33 <MrBougo> hello ghableska
19:33 <epsy> bon just, jveux dire que je le lance ici et tu rejoins la partie
19:33 <MrBougo> en serveur internet
19:33 <MrBougo> mets-le private alors :p
19:33 <epsy> bofh
19:33 <epsy> je met un mot de passe et merde xD
19:33 <MrBougo> "et merde", bon pass
19:33 <luke-jr_work> hungary
19:34 <MrBougo> are you hungary luke-jr_work ?
19:34 <epsy> Indeed!
19:34 <luke-jr_work> no!
19:34 <luke-jr_work> digitx is hungary!
19:35 <MrBougo> luke-jr_work: i mean you wanna eat
19:35 <MrBougo> ok that wasnt fun
19:35 <MrBougo> epsy: tell me when your serv is up :p
19:35 <epsy> MrBougo, t'as le map « metro » ?
19:35 <MrBougo> yup
19:35 <epsy> ok
19:35 <MrBougo> perfect map :D
19:35 <MrBougo> i love it
19:35 <epsy> ;)
19:35 <MrBougo> "blahblahblah pickpoket"
19:35 <epsy> no, it's a bit unbalanced
19:36 <MrBougo> i mean perfect funny map
19:36 <MrBougo> very interesting design
19:36 <epsy> je le met ss mot de passe ?
19:36 <MrBougo> yup
19:36 <MrBougo> "et merde"
19:37 <epsy> ça démarre
19:37 <epsy> mais ça prend tjrs des heures à contacter le mastar
19:37 <MrBougo> :(
19:38 <MrBougo> tell me when it's up
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/stylesheet.html
19:39 <epsy> css on qt ?
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> yep
19:39 <epsy> (was just saying random crap)
19:39 <MrBougo> lol
19:39 <MrBougo> epsy: ?
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's amazing how much "random crap" is implemented in qt
19:39 <MrBougo> ça met tellement de temps? :p
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> Maintenant, au jourd'hui je ne suis pas l'idiote parce que l'idiote est tu.
19:41 <MrBougo> Lucifer_arma...
19:41 <epsy> MrBougo, ok it doesn't work with password
19:41 <epsy> i just put it without one
19:41 <MrBougo> now, today, i'm not the dumb girl because the dumb girl is you
19:41 <epsy> « bogus's bahblah
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:42 <MrBougo> what did you mean luci
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> just random crap
19:42 <MrBougo> seems so...
19:42 <epsy> i forgot something
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, to make that gender-neutral I just make idiote into idiot ?
19:43 <epsy> MrBougo, cmon
19:43 <MrBougo> i dont see it epsy
19:44 <MrBougo> ima connect with IP
19:44 <epsy> epsy.is-a-geek.org
19:46 <MrBougo> awaiting connection
19:46 <epsy> hmm
19:46 <MrBougo> my firewall is ok
19:46 <MrBougo> maybe you should open your port
19:46 <epsy> no connection tries here
19:46 <MrBougo> 30720
19:46 <epsy> yeah
19:47 <MrBougo> epsy.is-a-geek.org:30720
19:47 <MrBougo> are you using ded server?
19:47 <epsy> no
19:47 <MrBougo> hehe
19:47 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: more of the same http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnP0snh_1cU
19:48 <epsy> MrBougo, udp or tcp ?
19:48 <MrBougo> still awaiting
19:48 <MrBougo> err dunno
19:48 <MrBougo> both? :p
19:48 <epsy> i was gonna say that :P
19:49 <epsy> brb, restarting router
19:49 <MrBougo> ok
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19:52 <epsy_> arrr
19:52 <MrBougo> hurr
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19:53 <ghableska> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15u6fHkICxc
19:53 <ghableska> hahahaha
19:54 <epsy> MrBougo, up
19:54 <epsy> tu viens de manquer le train
19:54 <epsy> xD
19:54 <epsy> ok c bon
19:54 <MrBougo> awaiting gamestate :D
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20:08 <epsy> ça t'as pas vré par hasard ?
20:08 <MrBougo> euh je load la map là
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20:23 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: Python's XML DOM thing isn't so great
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22:00 <Vanhayes> .tea
22:00 <tronner> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): -|ct|-ed-, .shoes, BamBoy, CT×W3V1, D!3N$, Ðûqkå, HoA¦Ö¦	~*SP*~Ps, john, K-Yo, pavelo, remote, ~{GP}~Spot, ~|DS|~zion, ¦×¥ Legit, °¯Pokemon!
22:01 <Monkeybutt> hi van
22:01 <Vanhayes> hi
22:08 <Monkeybutt> .tea
22:08 <tronner> Monkeybutt: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): -|ct|-ed-, Cezonho, CT×W3V1, K-Yo, Mochamew, ~*SP*~PsYkO, ~{GP}~Spot, ~|DS|~zion, ¦Ö¦Legit, ¦×¥.shoes, °°Gollow, °°MErD
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22:17 <epsy> .ping
22:17 <tronner> pong
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> man, this is a cool job
22:22  * Lucifer_arma is assembling a telescope that probably costs thousands of dollars :)
22:27 <guru3> and you're doing this while on irc
22:27 <guru3> i'm sure there are smoother ways of doing it -_-
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22:58 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's done, just need to balance it
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> but there's a lab now, and after it gets going I need to test the airtrack
23:13 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma, how many teams signed up for AFL?
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23:17 <Lucifer_arma> 4, last I checked
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> and roster's weren't final
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> which could be a problem, deadline was yesterday :/
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23:20 <harrydance> hello
23:20 <harrydance> anyone around?
23:20 <luke-jr_work> yes
23:20 <harrydance> :)
23:20 <luke-jr_work> about 24 people
23:20 <luke-jr_work> I hope I win
23:20 <luke-jr_work> the local LUG is giving away a Core 2 Quad
23:21 <harrydance> lug?
23:21 <luke-jr_work> Linux User Group
23:21 <harrydance> ahh okay
23:21 <harrydance> good luck then ;)
23:23 <harrydance> i came here to ask for a bit of help if anyones up to it? (n00b alert)
23:27 <Vanhayes> Lucifer_arma, so can people still sign up teams, or people then?
23:27 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:27 <tronner> luke-jr_work, ...
23:28 <madmax|pt> harrydance: ask it :P
23:28 <harrydance> ahhh
23:28 <harrydance> erm i posted in the forums one sec ill get the link
23:28 <harrydance> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=16771
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> harrydance: don't ask to ask, just ask
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> is that the "how do I get rubber in a local game" topic?
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> the one I just answered on the forums?
23:30 <madmax|pt> no
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, different one
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, the problem that I'm seeing is that XP Media Center is technically an unsupported platform :/
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> I think you're the first person to try it, or at least the first to try and then tell about it
23:31 <luke-jr_work> harrydance: install a Linux-based OS
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> try deleting your setup files and starting over
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> probably there's a default setting that's borked for some reason
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> we'll need the version of directx you have, precise OS version number, including build if there is one, video card specs, etc.
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> the whole shabang
23:32 <harrydance> any easy way for me to bring all that up?
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> version of opengl if there's a separate opengl installed
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> I have no idea.  Not only do I know nothing about windows, I know even less about XP media center
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> this is information you'll need to post with so that someone who *does* know can help :)
23:33 <harrydance> okay ill get to finding stuff out then
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> check the video card threads with a search for "video card"
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> there's some instructions that'll help buried in there somewhere ;)
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> some tool for directx that'll grab almost all of that info
23:41 <harrydance> "Another way is the "dxdiag" program." i think thats what you mena?
23:41 <harrydance> mean*
23:43 -!- _Sticky_ [n=Sticky@80-43-84-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron
23:44 <_Sticky_> .tea
23:44 <tronner> _Sticky_: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): -HsP- Dal, -]0a|Deidara, cos, dorkatee, G5, HoA¦Ö¦	john, Phantom, qYin, Vanhayes, [PwnZ0rD] -HAT-
23:44 <Vanhayes> pong
23:50 <harrydance> okay i put the diag results up in my post, if anyone fancies sneaking a peek?
23:50 <_Sticky_> fuck
23:51 <_Sticky_> just got banned from cafe fortress
23:51 <_Sticky_> for spaming my you must grind message
23:55 <Vanhayes> wasnt that only one time?
23:56 <_Sticky_> no i tried 3 times blocked the 2nd and kicked on the 3rd
23:56 <madmax|pt> "I AM KRABBELBABY"
23:56 <Vanhayes> 'heh, oh
23:56 <Vanhayes> harrydance, krabbelbaby
23:56 <Vanhayes> er
23:56 <Vanhayes> damn auto complete
23:56 <madmax|pt> lol
23:57 <Vanhayes> meant ha, krabbelbaby
23:58 <Vanhayes> still, pimp was the worst

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