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00:00 <DrJoeTron> doot doot doot
00:00 <DrJoeTron> i just got traded a japanese psyduck
00:01 <DrJoeTron> this game is ruining me and turning me into a fruit
00:03 <DrJoeTron> the fuck is that
00:06 <DrJoeTron> that doesnt help me either
00:06 <DrJoeTron> that won't get me to play
00:08 <DrJoeTron> hmmmm
00:08 <DrJoeTron> i'll think about this
00:08 <DrJoeTron> I'm not a big fan of RTS's
00:08 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
00:08 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
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00:33 <P4> restart ?
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01:02 <P4> #t de en Oder: hier wird es in absehbarer Zeit nichts neues geben ;)
01:02 <armabot> P4: Or: here it will not give anything new in foreseeable time;)
01:02 <P4> or Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
01:02 <P4> lol
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01:53 <DrJoeTron> ahhh
01:53 <DrJoeTron> bomberman hero
01:53 <DrJoeTron> horrible game
01:53 <DrJoeTron> incredible music
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02:07 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:07 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 54.1°F (7:10 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.80 in 975.2 hPa (Rising). 
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03:03 <xfroggy> #seen Durka
03:03 <armabot> xfroggy: Durka was last seen in #armagetron 8 hours, 24 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Durka> lol
03:05 <xfroggy> #m Durka DURKA, STOP LOCKING WW SUMO FFS!!!
03:05 <armabot> xfroggy: The operation succeeded.
03:05 <ghableska> ?
03:06 <xfroggy> he locked it again :/
03:06 <ghableska> "locked?"
03:06 <xfroggy> 0/0 :S
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03:30 <Durka> #hello
03:30 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: No, that'd be silly. || -- Larry Wall in <199710221710.KAA24242@wall.org>
03:30 <xfroggy> Durka, grr
03:30 <Durka> x
03:30 <Durka> DD
03:30 <Durka> xD
03:30 <xfroggy> 2nd time :S
03:30 <ghableska> hi Durka 
03:30 <Durka> rofl
03:30 <Durka> #ghab
03:30 <Durka> :P
03:31  * Durka pokes ghab
03:31 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 52.9°F (8:30 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). 
03:31 <xfroggy> Durka u should do that stuff in team sumo -.-
03:31 <Durka> :P
03:31 <Durka> mb
03:31 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 53.2°F (8:36 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). 
03:32 <ghableska> #ghab
03:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 53.2°F (8:36 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Rising). 
03:32 <ghableska> yay
03:33 <Durka> lol
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04:12 <DrJoeTron> ah
04:12 <DrJoeTron> lovely
04:13 <DrJoeTron> windows stop errors
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04:13 <DrJoeTron> my favorite sign of time to clean the dust out of the pc
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04:28 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
04:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Brushy Creek Marlins, Austin, Texas is 74.3°F (9:28 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). 
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04:59 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:59 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 61.3°F (9:19 PM CDT on April 26, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Rising). 
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05:50 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know anything about knees?
05:51 <GodTodd> they're only supposed to bend one way...
05:54 <GodTodd> got knee problems?
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, my right knee is swelling
05:55 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:55 <GodTodd> twist it wrong?
05:55 <GodTodd> did you hear any kind of pop?
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> no pop
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> it's something that's been building for a few weeks, and it was gone completely at the beginning of the week
05:58 <GodTodd> that's good...that means probably no tendon damage
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think it's serious, but I was mainly interested in what I can do to deal with it, and according to this page:
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/Knee_ligament_injuries.html
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> first aid for all types of knee injuries is the same
05:58 <GodTodd> ice?
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> so it's basically "do this first aid, strengthen the leg, and see if it goes away on its own"
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> icepack to reduce swelling, then an ace wrap
05:59 <GodTodd> yep
05:59 <GodTodd> that's what i've always done
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> maybe a knee brace during fencing to avoid aggravating it
05:59 <GodTodd> same thing for ankles i believe
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess I'll be heading down to walgreens in a few minutes
05:59 <GodTodd> 'less it's broken
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> yep, that's what you do for ankles
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think anything's broken, I think this is definitely a soft tissue thing
06:00 <GodTodd> sounds like it
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> broken would have happened all at once, this is something building
06:00 <GodTodd> probably something got pinched by the kneecap or something
06:00 <GodTodd> then aggravated
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> more than likely my body's just not used to the 200 lb strain being put on it during a lunge :)
06:00 <DrJoeTron> bee doop bwee
06:00 <GodTodd> that's another likelihood ;)
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> and there's probably more force than 200 lbs during a lunge in a bout because I push pretty hard with my left foot
06:00 <DrJoeTron> bee dee dee
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> hi joe
06:01 <DrJoeTron> bee dee
06:01 <DrJoeTron> sup
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> so what's better, icepack or heat pack?
06:02 <GodTodd> ice for swelling, isn't it?
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> If you have not been active for a while, gradually increase the intensity of the exercise you do, with progressively harder training.  <--- I sure in the fuck didn't do that, I dove in as hard as I could :/
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> ice for swelling.... what's a heat pack for?
06:02 <GodTodd> pain, i think
06:03 <GodTodd> and stiffness
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> I can point to where the pain is, heh
06:03 <GodTodd> get icy hot
06:03 <GodTodd> icy to dull the pain, hot to relax it away
06:03 <GodTodd> heh
06:04 <GodTodd> you can shoot me for knowing that slogan if'n ya want
06:04 <GodTodd> heh
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> luckily for me I don't recognize the slogan
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'm going to walgreens, I hope this doesn't set me back too far, but I've got to do something about it
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
06:06 <GodTodd> k
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> alright, got a cold compress, a knee brace, and a bandage
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> $30, not bad at all
06:38 <GodTodd> that should do it
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> it's not the greatest knee brace ever made, and it is the generic walgreens bandage
06:41 <GodTodd> that should work fine
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> 2 hours before the compress is ready, I'll probably just put it on there tomorrow
06:41 <GodTodd> yeah...you have to freeze it, right?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> ep
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> er, yep
06:42 <GodTodd> heh...that's what i told my precal teacher to do when he asked us to make rectangular coordinates polar
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, if I could get away with a little pythagoras and tangent to fix my knee, I'd be all over it
06:43 <GodTodd> haha
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> knee's not very flexible with a brace on it, I better go see if I can fence like this
06:44 <GodTodd> hey, i got a 120 on my govt current events paper that i wrote in like an hour
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> out of what?  100?
06:44 <GodTodd> yeah...that's the only thing about the generic braces :/
06:44 <GodTodd> yep
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, flexibility isn't a huge requirement, but I'll see
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab again :)
06:44 <GodTodd> :)
06:49 <DrJoeTron> FUCK YOU GodTodd!
06:51 <GodTodd> delayed reaction, joe?
06:51 <DrJoeTron> not yet
06:51 <DrJoeTron> preemptive reaction
06:52 <GodTodd> 48 minutes is pretty delayed :P
06:53 <DrJoeTron> ok 
06:53 <DrJoeTron> :(
06:53 <DrJoeTron> i wanna post this video
06:53 <DrJoeTron> its porn
06:53 <DrJoeTron> but funny
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> alright, this'll work
06:53 <DrJoeTron> really?
06:53 <DrJoeTron> ok
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can fence with this knee brace on
06:53 <DrJoeTron> check this out
06:53 <GodTodd> post it on lightfoot.dashjr.org
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, put it there
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> it is going to affect my cross-step back, but I'll drill it tomorrow while I'm warming up
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> I'm expecting them to spring another tournament on us, either pools to seed the knockout, or just another tournament
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> if not I'm going to try to get them to let us just free fence
06:54  * GodTodd registered for summer classes today.
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> because I don't want to do their drills anymore :)
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> did you sign up for fencing?  :)
06:55 <GodTodd> they don't have fencing :(
06:55 <GodTodd> i haven't checked UTD tho
06:55 <GodTodd> heh
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of lame school are you going to?!?
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> :)
06:55 <GodTodd> :P
06:56 <GodTodd> still debating if i want a maymester class or a 3 week vacation
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> deceivers!  They made it look like these fancy clips are attached to the bandage
06:57 <GodTodd> week after next is finals
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> so they fell off!  :/
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> yep, finals for me too
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> only physics, though.  I dropped calc :(
06:57 <GodTodd> i'm taking calc this summer
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> calc 1, right?
06:58 <GodTodd> yeah
06:58 <GodTodd> and 2
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> at the same time?!?
06:58  * GodTodd waits for the "that's stupid"
06:58 <GodTodd> no
06:58 <GodTodd> one after the other
06:58 <GodTodd> :P
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*
06:59 <GodTodd> calc 1 in june
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> a guy in my calc 1 class tried to do both at the same time
06:59 <GodTodd> calc 2 in july
06:59 <GodTodd> same time would just confuse me
06:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, if they're like my first two calculus classes, that'll probably be a mistake, but it'll only set you back at most 1 semester
07:00 <GodTodd> well...karen is the one that convinced me to do it...and it's her money ;)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's not a bad move, and it's not terribly risky either :)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> you just have to be willing to take a 1 semester setback if it doesn't work out :)
07:00 <GodTodd> that's what i'm hoping...then i don't have to take calc 2 and physics at the same time
07:01 <GodTodd> oh...a setback that small is no big deal :)
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> since it's usual to compare summer classes vs summer vacation, it's not that big of a deal, really
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> the catch is that it really helps if you have time to let it sink in
07:01 <GodTodd> true
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> now, that may be different for you because you actually *gasp* took precalculus right before calc 1
07:01 <GodTodd> haha
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> also, the advantage you'll have is that if you pull it off, you'll be starting calculus-based physics in the fall, right?
07:02 <GodTodd> yep
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> if you take that alongside the first vector calculus class (calc 3 at my school), the two should complement each other very well
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> *very* well, and should more than offset the time you missed letting it all sink in
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, if you pull it off, you might well wind up 2 semesters ahead.
07:03 <GodTodd> hmmm that's something too....my degree requires a bunch of math courses...but none are calc 3 or 4
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> 2 semesters ahead vs 1 semester setback, I'd probably take that gamble too :)
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> if calc 3 is multivariable calculus, it'll be well worth it to take it alongside the first calculus-based physics course
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> see if you can get it to count as an elective
07:04 <GodTodd> i'll have to check on that
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> thing is, calculus-based physics touches on vector calculus right away, right the fuck away
07:05 <GodTodd> i have to take applied linear algebra, diff eq, advanced engineering math, discrete math, and prob and stats
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, you do Newton's laws of motion and you're in vector calculus, but watered down because it's not a prereq for the course, knowwhatImean?
07:05 <GodTodd> right
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> find out if advanced engineering math is vector calculus :)
07:05 <GodTodd> sec
07:07 <GodTodd> that's the one :)
07:07 <GodTodd> EE 3300 Advanced Engineering Mathematics (3 semester hours) Survey of advanced mathematics topics needed in the study of engineering. Topics include vector differential calculus, vector integral calculus, integral theorems, complex variables, complex integration, series, residues and numerical methods. Examples are provided from microelectronics and communications. Prerequisite: MATH 2420. (3-0) S
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> yep
07:07 <GodTodd> have to take diff eq first tho
07:07 <GodTodd> :/
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> looks like a mix between my calc 2 and calc 3 classes
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't taken diff eq yet, so I don't have any idea what it looks like
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, there was an intro to it in calc 2, but that's not saying much (really, it's not)
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> what's the prereq for diff eq?
07:09 <GodTodd> wonder if i should put off physics for a semester then....
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's not worth putting off because you can hack it without any kind of vector calculus, it's just a matter of trying to schedule in as many advantages as possible :)
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> also, what's the description of calc 2?
07:09 <GodTodd> calc 2
07:09 <GodTodd> prereq for diff eq
07:10 <GodTodd> MATH 2419 Calculus II (4 semester hours) Continuation of MATH 2417. Improper integrals, sequences, infinite series, power series, parametric equations and polar coordinates, vectors, vector valued functions, functions of several variables, partial derivatives and applications, multiple integration. Three lecture hours and two discussion (MATH 2019) hours a week. Prerequisite: A score of at least 4 on the Advanced Placement Calculus
07:10 <GodTodd> BC exam or MATH 2417. (4-0) S
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> aha, ok
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> vectors, vector valued functions
07:10 <GodTodd> would that get me through physics? ;)
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, your calc sequence is quite different from mine.  That's a blend of calc 2 and calc 3 also
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> at least, it's a blend of what I took
07:11 <GodTodd> search your slash?
07:11 <GodTodd> gross
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> since that url says "earn/id", I'm not clicking it without some idea of what it is
07:11 <GodTodd> that's another fucking click through isn't it?
07:11 <GodTodd> we should ban adverts in here
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> so you should be fine.  Is calc 2 a prereq for physics, or just calc 1?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> you mean they pay you if I use it?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> (with the link you gave)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> hr = ?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> wow
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> so they'll pay me 25 cents an hour to use their search engine?
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: is calc 2 a prereq for physics?
07:13 <GodTodd> calc 1 is prereq
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> is it calc 2 is required completed or concurrently enrolled?  (that's how mine is)
07:14 <GodTodd> well...it looks like for utd calc 2 isn't required at all
07:14 <GodTodd> it is at ccccd
07:14 <GodTodd> heh
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's alright, that's a fun topic list :)
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> vector calculus is unbelievably fun
07:15 <GodTodd> is it? :)
07:15 <GodTodd> looks like it's mechanics for physics I
07:15 <GodTodd> and electromagnetism and waves for physics II
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'd be surprised if your physics layout is much different than mine
07:16 <GodTodd> well...you're in physics I now, right?
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's how mine's setup, with optics thrown into physics 2
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm in physics 1
07:16 <GodTodd> PHYS 2325 Mechanics (3 semester hours) Calculus based. Basic physics including a study of space and time, kinematics, forces, energy and momentum, conservation laws, rotational motion, torques, and harmonic oscillation.. Two lectures and one recitation session per week. Prerequisite: MATH 2417. Corequisite: PHYS 2125. (3-0) Y
07:16 <GodTodd> that's utd's I
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> same as mine
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> you *have* to cover those topics to do anything after that
07:17 <GodTodd> PHYS 2326 Electromagnetism and Waves (3 semester hours) Continuation of PHYS 2325. Topics include electrostatics and electromagnetics, electric field and potential, electric currents, magnetic fields, laws of Coulomb, Ampere, and Faraday, Maxwell’s theory of wave propagation. Two lectures and one recitation session per week. Prerequisites: PHYS 2325 and MATH 2419. Corequisite: PHYS 2126. (3-0) Y
07:17 <GodTodd> that's II
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> my physics teacher keeps telling us how everything you learn in physics 1 is used in physics 2, all the formulas are the same, just with a few different constants and fancier names :)
07:18 <GodTodd> kinda like the end of precal :)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> (assuming a similar precal layout)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> we just did harmonic motion, and he spent a lot of time setting up waves with it
07:18 <GodTodd> yeah...bunch of trig review followed by preview of calc I
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, you covered logarithms, right?
07:19 <GodTodd> yeah
07:19 <GodTodd> and base conversion and all
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> and looked at exponential functions, log functions, trig functions, polynomial functions?
07:19 <GodTodd> yep
07:19  * Lucifer_arma wonders what kind of function he missed
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> inverse trig functions?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> aha, irrational functions
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> you did those too, right?
07:20 <GodTodd> i don't remember irrational functions
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> and rational functions, even
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> er, hmmmm
07:20 <GodTodd> i think we mighta done those in trig tho
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> I might have invented a new function type!
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> ok, radicals and fractions, basically
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> sqrt(x) and 1/x and variants?
07:20 <GodTodd> nah...i've heard of them :P
07:20 <GodTodd> those, yeah
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's the same layout.
07:21 <GodTodd> more use of trig identities, power reducing formulas
07:21 <GodTodd> etc
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> I bought the precal book when I took calc 1, a lot of the early calc 1 homework I didn't do because I did the precal work instead
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> particularly most of the first chapter, which is a precal review, I just did the corresponding sections from the precal textbook
07:21 <GodTodd> heh
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> got a handy topic list for calc 1?
07:22 <GodTodd> this next test has 3d vectors on it :)
07:22 <GodTodd> MATH 2417 Calculus I (4 semester hours ) Functions, limits, continuity, differentiation; integration of function of one variable; logarithmic, exponential, and inverse trigonometric functions; techniques of integration, and applications. Three lecture hours and two discussion hours (MATH 2017) a week. Prerequisite: A SAT II Mathematics Level IC Test score of 630, a Level II Test score of 630, or a grade of at least C- in MATH 2312 or
07:22 <GodTodd> an equivalent course. (4-0) S
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> wow, looks liek they've spread all the vector stuff out quite a bit
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> we got pounded with them in calc 3, having never really worked with them before
07:23 <GodTodd> yeah...i like that they do them a little at a time i think
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> I'm curious how they intend to work applications into that load, since that's my calc 1 class and about 1/4 of my calc 2 class
07:23 <GodTodd> heh
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> so you can already do the dot product, have you learned the cross product?
07:23 <GodTodd> yep
07:24 <GodTodd> that's on this next test too
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> can you use the definition of the cross product as well as the matrix method?
07:24 <GodTodd> ummm i can use the matrix method :)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> where the definition is |a||b|sin(theta) gives the length, and the right hand rule gives the direction
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> the trick is to get theta you use the two definitions of the dot product and set them equal to each other
07:25 <GodTodd> yeah...he didn't go into that cuz he said he never really got it heh
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> ax*bx + ay*by + az*bz = |a||b|cos(theta)  <--- solve for theta, you want the acute angle so no quadrant issues
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I don't get the right hand rule either :)
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> so did you cover 3d surfaces then?  planes and spheres and crap?
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> hyperboloid of 1 sheet, hyperboloid of 2 sheets, paraboloid, etc?
07:27 <GodTodd> no...just vectors in space
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  I wonder where they introduce that stuff
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's algebra, but somewhere down in vector calculus you use parametric equations to define those things, then you turn them into functions
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm starting to see how UT can squeeze in the 5 semesters worth of ACC calculus into 4 semesters.  They include diff eq in there, I think
07:29 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:31 <GodTodd> well...utd is a little different because they've only been offering undergrad classes for 15 or 20 years or so
07:32 <GodTodd> they were started by TI as a graduate school
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think I should squeeze a towel and a bottle of tylenol into my fencing bag
07:34 <GodTodd> i would
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> why?  you're not going to use my fencing bag.... ;)
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> This information is not intended to replace the advice of a doctor.  <---- then why the hell is anyone going to read it?!?
07:36 <GodTodd> haha
07:36 <GodTodd> just a CYA
07:36 <GodTodd> :)
07:36 <GodTodd> just in case they really are full of shit
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> man, some guy on fencing.net just sent me a private message, and he doesn't have any posts, and he "just wants to say hi"
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> so I need stretches for my knees now
07:39 <GodTodd> heh
07:53 <GodTodd> does this look like a good starting point for learning scales? http://www.tabheaven.com/scale.php
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> it's not too bad, but I have some caveats with it :)
07:59 <GodTodd> such as? :)
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> the G scale looks like a major pentatonic
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> er, lemme grab my guitar real quick
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's not a pentatonic
08:00 <GodTodd> heh
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> learn the G scale like it is, but try to learn the pattern rather than the fact that it's a G scale
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> so move it up a fret and down a fret, and so forth
08:00 <GodTodd> right
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> get to where you can start from anywhere from open E all the way up to 7th fret E string
08:00 <GodTodd> that's basically what i was going to do
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> then transpose it up to the other strings so you can go all the way
08:01 <GodTodd> just need to get fingering technique down
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> then, this is the tricky part, move it up a string to the C pattern they give and try to fill in the notes on the E string
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> for soloing you want to use 4 notes per string if you can, but it's nto that big a deal.  You should learn a pattern that contains 4 notes per string,
08:01 <GodTodd> k
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> but what'll happen over time is you'll learn where all the notes for a given scale are on the entire fretboard, and instead of seeing a scale pattern with only one path,
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> you'll see all paths simultaneously
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> that's the ideal you want to strive for, because when you have that, you just need to be aable to move your fingers in any arbitrary combination
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> then work on the pattern using a different starting position within the scale, not just tranposing it up a fret or whatever
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> like play that G pattern in it's position, but use the A as your starting note and find an upper A to use as your ending note
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's what the modes are, Locrian mode, Phrygian mode, etc.  They're all just using the major scale, but starting in a different place within that scale
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> personally, I found the best way to learn scales was to build from a pentatonic and to find transition notes within the pentatonic,
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> notes that don't clash with the chord you're playing :)
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> eentually you'll discover the major/minor/7th/etc scales
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> (except I don't htink there's an actual 7th scale)
08:04 <GodTodd> heh
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, you should learn the major scale because most of the chords you play are constructed from it in some form or other
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> basically choose any arbitrary 4 notes from the major scale and play them together and you have a chord within that key
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> naming it could be tricky, but who cares about that?  ;)
08:05 <GodTodd> truly
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> the arpeggios make up the standard chords, E Major, A Major, etc.  You know arpeggios, right?
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> the exercise you want to play is actually not shown.  What you want to do is go up the scale and then back down
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> when you reach the bottom, play the arpeggio up and down
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> find timing that works for you, but normally you play a long first note, a long note at the top of the scale, eighth notes going up, eigth notes coming back down, and the arpeggios are triplets
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> ask karen for the timing, she knows what I'm talking about :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> also, everywhere you see a note played on the fifth fret, experiment with replacing that with the next string up, open, which you know is the same note
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08:09 <Lucifer_arma> you'll find all your chords thataway :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's very useful to be familiar with the relationship between scales and chords
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> for blazing fast solos, you want to be able to do the scale exercises with alternate picking
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> for crunchy rhythms, you want to do the scale exercises with only down picks
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> you should do both at all ranges
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> but not all at once.  That's boring.  You'd wind up spending 2 hours playing nothing but scales and never jamming if you did that.
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Do all this stuff on a rotation, so you're always doing slightly different drills from the last time, but over a week you repeat each drill at least once
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> picking techniques are more useful than transporting the scale around the neck, but you can combine them
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> the positions you need to know most for rock and metal are E, G, A, and C, and B is useful for MEgadeth
08:12 <GodTodd> haha
08:12 <GodTodd> k
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> I think that's it, you probably won't need to ask me about scales for another year or so :)
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, you need to know those rock and metal positions in two places
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> E and A you need to know open
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> E you need to be able to start on the A string at the 7th position, and A you need to be able to start on the E string at the fifth position
08:14 <GodTodd> k
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> G and C you need to know both where this page shows them, and also two strings up, 2 frets up (where up refers to pitch direction, not physical direction)
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> B is just tricky because the marks on the fretboard guide you in A, E, C, and G, but they lie to you in B, so you should celebrate when you can play B in any position
08:15 <GodTodd> haha
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> most common is on the A string, second position, but you *will* stumble across it in other places and it'll be nice if you recognize it when you do
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I've got more
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> on all the open chords, you'll want to find all the rest of the notes in the scale within the open chord fingering positions
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> that'll help you find good fills, like Extreme does all the time
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> it'll also help you construct those really gnarly riffs like Megadeth's
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> It'll also help you find which chords to put in a progression
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> don't let that stuff limit you, it's useful as a tool, but it's often nice to just throw that stuff out the window and do something else
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> and one thing I've found terribly useful is to know which open strings are in the scale for the chord progression because it can be hard to switch between open chords without causing a break in playing
08:18 <GodTodd> true
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> so you fill in the gaps by hitting open strings while you're rearranging your left hand
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> you're kind of lying to your audience when you do that, but they don't really care :)
08:21 <GodTodd> something like this look better? http://www.cyberfret.com/scales/index.php
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's much better, but with a few caveats :)
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I really don't like it when someone else goes through allt he work of finding and transcribing a ton of scales for me
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's not helpful
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> it's like being fed all the formulas for trig without studying the proofs and rationale behind them
08:23 <GodTodd> heh that's how i learned trig :P
08:23 <GodTodd> thing is...i think that site will be nice as long as i just use it as a framework
08:23 <GodTodd> and supplement it with other learning and jerking around
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> You should learn the basic patterns, the 3 notes per string pattern for regular 8 tone scales, the minor pentatonic in both 2 and 3 note variations, and probably you want to know the several minor patterns (I don't know them, though, so it's not that big a deal)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> finding notes on the fretboard through active exploration is the best thing you can do, seriously
08:24 <GodTodd> i'm trying to set up in case i take the 3 week vacation in may :)
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> it's also faster, because you actually wind up dveloping a process for finding notes on the fly, thus reducing the amount of rote information and drilling you need
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> so really, learning a scale in one octave and then spending the next 30 minutes or so finding the next octave is far more useful than just using someone else's pattern and drilling it for the two octaves
08:25 <GodTodd> right
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> even if at the end, doing it my way, you can't play both octaves, it's still better to find the notes that way
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> cold compress is almost ready
08:31 <GodTodd> yay :)
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I can just keep it in the freezer all the time and it'll be ready any time I need it
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to assume I can't carry it in my fencing bag :)
08:36 <GodTodd> right
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, cold compress is on, comes off near 2:30
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> now is probably a good time to play some arma while I'm killing time
08:49 <GodTodd> heh
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09:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, that sure brought the swelling down
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> now a smoke, a shower, another little cold pack, then bed
09:35 <DrJoeTron> you know what'd fix your knee
09:35 <DrJoeTron> SMOKING
09:36 <DrJoeTron> ANIMAL DANDER
09:36 <DrJoeTron> AMINAL*
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> man, the shower brought all the swelling back
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12:46 <node7> hi all...
12:47 <node7> I've got a little problem and was wondering if any of you could help: I installed ubuntu 7.04 yesterday night and of course the first thing to do with a fresh installation is getting AA as well
12:49 <node7> I did so via the Synaptic thingy that comes with Ubuntu
12:49 <node7> the problem is now when I start AA, it "flashes" and then shuts down, all within a fraction of a second
12:50 <xfroggy> does it give any errors?
12:50 <arctanx> do the nv drivers have sufficient 3d support?
12:50 <node7> no, nothing whatsoever
12:50 <node7> I don't know, how would I go on about checking this?
12:51 <arctanx> what kind of video card do you hav?
12:51 <node7> this is my first installation of linux ever, so I really don't find my way around yet :)
12:51 <node7> nvidia fx 5200
12:51 <node7> I got it to run after changing am line in the xorg.conf
12:51 <arctanx> right well it will be using nv drivers, which I believe don't have 3d support
12:51 <arctanx> well, opengl
12:52 <arctanx> so you should probably google for: howto ubuntu install nvidia drivers
12:52 <node7> alright, will do this thanks already.... 
12:53 <hang3r> node7, drop to a console and type this: glxinfo | grep "direct"
12:53 <arctanx> np
12:54 <node7> hang3r, I get all kind of " GLX missing ..." errors
12:54 <hang3r> node7, ubuntu 7.10 already includes the nvidia drivers
12:54 <hang3r> yeah ok, so here's how to enable it
12:55 <hang3r> goto System > Administration  > Restricted drivers manager
12:55 <hang3r> you'll notice the nvidia card listed their after you enable it
12:55 <hang3r> *there
12:55 <node7> yeah... I'll activate it
12:56 <hang3r> yup, once you do that, just reboot, and you'll have 3d hardware acceleration :)
12:56 <node7> ok, needs a restart... I hope the system reboots well
12:56 <hang3r> it will
12:56 <xfroggy> does he needs to reboot? he's on linux... just restart x maybe?
12:56 <xfroggy> O_o
12:56 <node7> It actually asks me to reboot
12:56 <node7> ;D
12:57 <node7> ok, thanks a lot guys
12:57 <xfroggy> so much for leaving windows reboot feature :S
12:57 <node7> brb
12:57 <hang3r> he could use insmod to load the kernel module, but it's easier just to tell someone who is new to just restart
12:57 <xfroggy> ah :S gotcha
13:00 <node7> yay it works
13:00 <node7> thanks a lot guys :D
13:00 <xfroggy> :D
13:00 <hang3r> np
13:01 <node7> it's all still really confusing, first time using linux and all .. but I'll get a hang of it
13:01 <node7> the speed improvement is more than impressive
13:01 <xfroggy> welcome to OS community :)
13:02 <node7> thx :)
13:08 <hang3r> ubuntu forums are a really good resource if you get stuck with anything, feel free to go and ask any kind of questions about anything, you'll get a reply fairly quickly
13:08 <hang3r> ubuntuforums.com
13:09 <hang3r> *ubuntuforums.org I mean :)
13:09 <node7> yeah those, and the wiki are really helpful
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15:02 <ghableska> #weather 50266
15:02 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 51.3°F (8:05 AM CDT on April 27, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.88 in 977.9 hPa (Rising). 
15:04 <ghableska> #tea
15:04 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
15:04 <ghableska> #armaservers
15:04 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || SPACEZONE III (6 players) || -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< (6 players) || The Arena (5 players) || The GREEEN Submarine (thelbx.com) (4 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (4 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || Palatinum's Place (2 players) || (1 more message)
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15:45 <MrBougo> P4, the sshd is down :'(
15:45 <MrBougo> forever i think
15:47 <ghableska> hey MrBougo 
15:47 <MrBougo> hello
15:48 <ghableska> #ghab
15:48 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 55.0°F (8:50 AM CDT on April 27, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 28.89 in 978.2 hPa (Rising). 
15:48 <MrBougo> no worries, it's real
15:48 <ghableska> :P
15:55 <MrBougo> :p
15:56 <MrBougo> that #null was a nice idea
15:56 <MrBougo> #null hehehehehe
15:56 <armabot>  
15:56 <MrBougo> :D
15:58 <MrBougo> P4, P4 P4 P4 P4 P4 P4 P4 P4 
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16:44 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6598883.stm <-- o_O
16:44 <ghableska> DrJoeTron, ping
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17:35 <epsy> hi
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18:35 <Lucifer_arma> yay
18:36 <Lucifer_arma> the swelling went down overnight
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18:48 <Lucifer_arma> quick, make something interesting happen
19:00 <luke-jr_work> ....
19:01 <P4> Lucifer_arma: maybe my new music link on my website will interest you (http://p4.doesntexist.org/) ;}
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> basic 1.1?
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> my popup blocker just blocked something
19:02 <P4> it's copy of my abandon pc that lay near me ;}
19:02 <P4> yes block it
19:02 <P4> it's dyndns webhop popup
19:02 <P4> in music link you got osme flash players with loaded mp3s ;]
19:02 <P4> if your browser supports flash
19:03 <Lucifer_arma> my browser's flash support is sketchy at best :/
19:04 <Lucifer_arma> I just finished organizing my google docs and spreadsheets account :)
19:04 <P4> :)
19:13 <luke-jr_work> P4: I purposely do not allow Flash on any of my PCs
19:14 <P4> i know it's not the original html/xhtml ;P
19:23 <luke-jr_work> it's a stupid video format
19:24 <P4> flash is just another applet for embedding the power of html ;)
19:24 <P4> you know actionscript?
19:25 <P4> playing with multimedia is much easier with flash
19:30  * GodTodd is glad he has flash support on his computers....if luke-jr thinks it's stupid it must be cool :)
19:30 <luke-jr_work> P4: bs
19:30 <luke-jr_work> for a start, webpages are not multipedia
19:31 <P4> your webpage is your personal space, you can do anything you want with it ;)
19:31 <P4> like making multipedias 
19:31 <GodTodd> is that A *through* Z?
19:33 <GodTodd> that joke really needs a DrJoeTron "badup tss" :/
19:34 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.7°F (12:35 PM CDT on April 27, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Rising). 
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, I just did a minor workout and my knee's holding up
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> no pun intended
19:41 <luke-jr_work> P4: webpage is not multimedia
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> actually, it is
19:44 <P4> why not? it wasnt 20 years ago, but nowadays why not?
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> you can render a webpage to print, to screen, to a screen reader
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> there's three mediums, how many do you need for it to be "multimedia"?
19:44 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: shhhh...don't make luke-jr_work look bad :P
19:46 <node7> the whole multimedia aspect depends on wether or not the CSS allows the website to render / display on all these different "medium" I guess...
19:47 <luke-jr_work> P4: because I said so. :)
19:47 <P4> ^^
19:48 <P4> i say:
19:48 <P4> #stone luke-jr_work
19:48 <armabot> 2 fat hash joints for luke-jr_work and P4, here you are guys, enjoy morocco stuff.
19:48 <P4> ^^
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> node7: nope, the css doesn't get to decide, the *user* gets to decide
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> all the css does it provide clues to the renderer what it should look like
19:52 <node7> yeah, If you dont include a css for let's say printing it will still display, but not optimized for printing - guess a webpage is multimedia even without any included css
19:53 <node7> got me there :)
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20:07 <Durka> #hello
20:07 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: "Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I || wonder if He has a full newsfeed?" || (By Matt Welsh)
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20:17 <ghableska> #tea
20:17 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): cusco, seyon
20:31 <Durka> #ghab
20:31 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 70.3°F (1:35 PM CDT on April 27, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 28.90 in 978.6 hPa (Rising). 
20:31 <ghableska> -_-
20:31 <Durka> :D
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20:42 <MrBougo> hello
20:43 <GodTodd> yoyo
21:03 <ghableska> http://www.ifilm.com/video/2748349/collection/18220/channel/viralvideo
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> yay!  no swelling!
21:06 <ghableska> knee?
21:06 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
21:06 <GodTodd> compress worked?
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> it worked a bit last night, then I stuck the wrap on it for bed, and this morning I put the brace on
21:07 <DrJoeTron> time to go to the dmv :D
21:07 <DrJoeTron> :D
21:07 <DrJoeTron> :)
21:07 <DrJoeTron> :|
21:07 <DrJoeTron> :(
21:07 <Lucifer_arma> and now it's all hot and sweaty, so I took the brace off to air it out, and check to see if it's swelling
21:07 <DrJoeTron> >:(
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> joe, why are you going to the dmv?
21:08 <GodTodd> yeah...those braces get to smelling quick because they hold in the heat well
21:08 <GodTodd> cuz he can't afford an enema?
21:08 <DrJoeTron> get a driving record
21:08 <DrJoeTron> so i can fight this ticket
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> there's still some swelling, not a lot
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'll stick the compress on it while I'm sitting :)
21:09 <GodTodd> what kind of ticket, joe?
21:09 <DrJoeTron> moving violation :"D
21:10 <DrJoeTron> they put me down for improper lane usage
21:10 <GodTodd> improper lane usage? were you using it to wash your clothes or what?
21:10 <DrJoeTron> i got into the right turn only lane and before and then i went back in to the center lane
21:10 <DrJoeTron> because i didnt want to go onto the high way
21:11 <DrJoeTron> so as I'm driving i mjust made the yellow light
21:11 <DrJoeTron> so then i see this car whizz past the intersection through the right turn lane on the red light, so i knew i was probably going to get pulled over
21:12 <DrJoeTron> THEN he finally puts his lights on
21:12 <DrJoeTron> i should've brought that up when i had the chance
21:12 <GodTodd> heh
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> man, these cold compresses hurt like hell
21:14 <Lucifer_arma> he probably wanted to see if you were drunk, because what you're describing is pretty short of attention span
21:14 <GodTodd> just sounds like "big city" driving to me
21:14 <GodTodd> heh
21:15 <DrJoeTron> yeah, the big city of elk grove
21:15 <GodTodd> how many people there?
21:15 <Lucifer_arma> you don't see that kind of idiotic driving around here very much, and we've got some idiotic drivers
21:15 <Lucifer_arma> the problem we have here is people just not signalling turns
21:15 <GodTodd> dfw has a lot of drivers like that :/
21:15 <GodTodd> yeah...that's a texas thing i think
21:15 <Lucifer_arma> so like, you know that if the guy had signalled his turn, you could've gone
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> and then there's gas-brake-gas-brake people
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> thos people really irritate me
21:16 <DrJoeTron> 34,727
21:16 <GodTodd> i tell karen "know how you can tell that guy's turning right?"
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> "he's in the right lane"?
21:16 <GodTodd> "cuz he isn't signalling"
21:16 <DrJoeTron> i signald :/
21:16 <DrJoeTron> DOESNT
21:16 <DrJoeTron> MATTER
21:16 <DrJoeTron> >:(
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> I won't say I signal every turn and lane change either, but I do try to signal when someone else might actually need to know
21:17 <GodTodd> yeah
21:17 <Lucifer_arma> same way I don't tell my wife every time I pee, just when she needs to know
21:17 <GodTodd> i hate the people that go 60-10 in half a block and turn without signalling
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> those people are annoying, but not half as annoying as the people that go 60-10 in half a block, then take three blocks to get off the road to turn
21:18 <DrJoeTron> i hate people who don't signal period
21:18 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah that bites too
21:18 <Lucifer_arma> but I finally understand the Sunday drivers thing
21:18 <GodTodd> anyway...time to pick up the oldest pain in the butt and get stuff for dinner
21:18 <GodTodd> bbiab
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> my kids had early release day :)
21:19  * Lucifer_arma just got back from the shoe store
21:27 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034204121.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:33 <MrBougo> i'm out
21:36 <MrBougo> bye, bye-bye, bye;bye bye'bye bye
21:36 <MrBougo> and stuff
21:36 <MrBougo> have a nice night
21:36 <MrBougo> #night
21:36 <armabot> Good night MrBougo!
21:36 <MrBougo> #null [night]
21:36 <armabot>  
21:36 <MrBougo> :D
21:36 <MrBougo> #alias add testmuh
21:36 <armabot> MrBougo: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and (1 more message)
21:36 <MrBougo> doesnt work
21:37 <MrBougo> bah
21:37 <MrBougo> #alias add testmuh @99
21:37 <armabot> MrBougo: Error: Can't mix $* and optional args (@1, etc.)
21:37 <MrBougo> ok bye
21:37 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-205-183.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #armagetron ["Guhuhuhu"]
21:45 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #armagetron
21:45 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
21:45 <Durka> #hello
21:45 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: /* panic?? These should never occur in our application. */ || linux-2.6.6/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aiclib.c
21:48 <digitx> hi
22:02 <Durka> digi xD
22:02 <epsy> #armaservers
22:02 <armabot> epsy: The Arena (13 players) || Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10 players) || ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬ [New!] (Rotating Maps) (7 players) || -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || The Tavern (5 players) || The Lobster Cage (4 players) || (1 more message)
22:02 <Durka> #ddl
22:02 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “d u r k a” at the moment, sorry.
22:02 <Durka> noobs ^^
22:02 <Durka> er he
22:03 <Durka> #alias remove ddl
22:03 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
22:03 <epsy> #where are the noobs ?
22:03 <armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “d u r k a” at the moment, sorry.
22:03 <epsy> Oo
22:03 <epsy> ah :)
22:03 <Durka> #alias add ddl serverinfo durka
22:03 <armabot> Durka: The operation succeeded.
22:03 <Durka> #ddl
22:03 <armabot> Durka: ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬  [New!]  (Rotating Maps): Players (6/16): $_TrEnT_$jfacas, <KRIKI>, Splinter, sT| NøØÞ, wT:r|CrazyNinja, xbc345
22:03 <Durka> noobs ^^
22:03 <epsy> #alias add where are the noobs ? serverinfo ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬
22:03 <armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:03 <epsy> #where are the noobs ?
22:03 <armabot> epsy: ¬{Durka Durka Land|¬  [New!]  (Rotating Maps): Players (6/16): $_TrEnT_$jfacas, <KRIKI>, Splinter, sT| NøØÞ, wT:r|CrazyNinja, xbc345
22:04 <Durka> :S
22:04 <epsy> ?
22:04  * epsy didn't made any work on his server today, too lazy :P
22:05 <Durka> lol
22:05 <epsy> man i should learn to organize my ~
22:05 <epsy> 626 files diretly in ~
22:05 <epsy> 9c
22:05 <epsy> *x
22:06 <epsy> oh, well, cant fix this one it seems xD
22:08  * epsy now has 2 windows open: the rep where all scripts of his server resides, and the log processor script
22:08  * epsy looks desperately at them
22:10 <epsy> *how* to classify scripts for better privs assignation...
22:11 <epsy> hmm and i'm monologuying now
22:13 <Vanhayes> aha, I finally won a bugfarm elim
22:14 <epsy> :)
22:16 -!- digitx [n=digitx@catv-56653686.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["Távozom"]
22:35 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit []
22:35 <epsy> [21:40:33] ddmj: :o
22:35 <epsy> [21:41:18] ddmj/Adium6EF626C1 est maintenant Déconnecté
22:35 <epsy> durka is always quitting in strange manners :P
22:36 <epsy> #monologue
22:36 <armabot> epsy: Your current monologue is at least 5 lines long.
22:36 <epsy> #ircstats
22:36 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
22:41 -!- Stempo [n=18ff32f3@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
22:49 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."]
22:50 -!- Stempo [n=18ff32f3@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)"]
23:05 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎî±®ø±©»» øþ± v. 0.0.1-r1"]
23:16 <ghableska> #monologue
23:16 <armabot> ghableska: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
23:16 <ghableska> :(
23:20 <GodTodd> couldn't pass up those ribs
23:27 <DrJoeTron> dur dur dur dur
23:27 <DrJoeTron> #monologue
23:27 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.
23:28 <DrJoeTron> eat it ghableska 
23:28 <GodTodd> MY GOD JOE STFU
23:28 <DrJoeTron> to torrent or to not
23:29 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
23:29 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (1/7): Jobie22
23:29 <DrJoeTron> torrent it is
23:29 <GodTodd> i need to torrent some beatallica
23:29 <GodTodd> i think
23:30 <DrJoeTron> I'm going to check out Cold War Kids
23:31 <GodTodd> beatallica is neat
23:33 <ghableska> drink it DrJoeTron 
23:33 <DrJoeTron> o ok
23:33 <DrJoeTron>  time to get badge 5 in pkeymans
23:44 <DrJoeTron> well shit
23:44 <DrJoeTron> looks like i need to grind more

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