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Log from 2007-04-28:
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01:56 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r7211 /www/mainsite/downloads.php: updated for ubuntu downloads
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02:03 <GodTodd> wonder if that means my aa won't crash anymore heh
02:11 <node7> thx for updating the downloads for feisty.... 2.8 wasnt working for me until I installed 2.7 also.... will check this out as soon as I get up tomorrow
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03:23 <|Sticky|> #tea
03:23 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: No online players.
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04:23 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 61.9°F (9:25 PM CDT on April 27, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 28.95 in 980.2 hPa (Rising). 
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06:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, I should've done something about my right knee sooner
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> now my left knee is going bonkers from having to compensate for my right knee plus take it's own extra forces, and it could handle the extra forces just fine if it could be a normal knee the rest of the time
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> and I'm having to consider that I won't be able to compete in the tournament that starts next week :(
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06:48 <MrBougo> hello
06:49 <hang3r> Lucifer_arma, amputate it with a butter knife then compete in the "special" tournament 
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't a special tournament, this is just within the classes this semester at the school
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> and it's both knees.  If my left knee had held out just a couple more days, I'd be fine right now :/
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I might still be fine.  If I am, I'll probably need a brace on both knees for the last two days, assuming I don't get eliminated early
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> that's the other catch, my knees aren't an issue if I get eliminated early, because the chances of doing serious damage are low in that case
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> but I wouldn't show up intending to lose...
06:54 <hang3r> what kind of tournament is it?
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> fencing
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> I believe it'll be single elimination, no idea how they're intending to seed it
06:56 <hang3r> how depended upon movement is fencing? I would have thought not really a whole lot
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's pretty dependent on movement
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's short bursts of movement, quick changes of direction
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> actually, tactically, fencing and arma are very similar :)
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> or maybe it's just my playing style in both are very similar
06:57 <hang3r> double binding? haha
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> part of my problem is that I drilled all week at home without taking any measures to protect my knees, knowing my knees were hurting
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> this is mostly my fault :/
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> like in arma when you see the wall way in front of you, but you don't turn
06:59 <hang3r> lol
06:59 <hang3r> life imitates arma imitates life?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> then I got new shoes that fit real snugly, and give me better traction on the playing surfaces
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> of course that only increased the forces my knees had to take by increasing resistance to those forces (less slipping)
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr  (I'm real irritated with myself, can you tell?)
07:00 <hang3r> build a light cycle for the tournament and your problems are solved 
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> no kidding.  Those fuckers would never know what hit them
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> it might be worth my while to drill bladework this week and minimize footwork to where I'm only taking one step back or one step forward, and not really lunging
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> provided I can do that and still heal my knees
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> but that's mostly wishful thinking.  When you get onto the strip, you just don't know how much footwork vs bladework you need against this opponent
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> not until you get there, that is
07:04 <hang3r> play dirty, anyway to cheat in fencing?
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> ?  play dirty?
07:07 <hang3r> nevermind
07:08 <hang3r> playing dirty is aussie slang for cheating, I would have thought that it was the case in every other native english speaking country
07:09 <hang3r> s/case/same/
07:17 <MrBougo> fencing is crazy
07:17 <MrBougo> i try to watch every match during the olympic games
07:19 <MrBougo> there's never fencing on tv, except duriong the OG
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's the same, I was just ocnfused about what you were saying
07:28 <DrJoeTron> GO FOR THE BALLS
07:28 <MrBougo> ok
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=169081#169081
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> balls are a valid target
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> as a matter of fact, since balls are a valid target, and even if they weren't they're reasonably close to the target area, I have actually targeted them specifically with intent to hurt
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> you are supposed to wear a jock strap when fencing, but nobody in my class does
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> and a guy who's just had his bell rung can't outrun my feeble advance
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> also a guy who's just had his bell rung is vulnerable to feints in that line, so after you've hit his balls, anytime you feint in 7 again will draw a parry
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> lets just say that having a vasectomy does seem to convey a certain advantage if nnobody wears jock straps (like they're supposed to)
07:59 <GodTodd> why? does it numb your balls?
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> no, but there are two characteristics that are interesting
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> 1) your balls hang lower, so they're actually covered by the penis (and penis shots might sting more but hurt much less)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> 2) you've already had your bell rung in the most extreme way possible without killing yourself, so you're more acclimated and therefore theoretically more capable of a quick recovery
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08:09 <Lucifer_arma> man, my knees are both the size of grape fruits :/
08:09 <hang3r> mmm grabe fruit, brb
08:09 <hang3r> *grape
08:09 <GodTodd> i figured that it'd have something to do with being somewhat used to having your sac poked
08:09 <GodTodd> ;)
08:09 <philippeqc> hi Lucifer_arma 
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> can't say "used to having your sac poked" really, since it's a once in a lifetime procedure
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> hi philippeqc (hi there!) 
08:10 <GodTodd> yeah...but that's about as "used to having your sac poked" as you're likely to get
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, overall I think I fenced better tonight than I have all semester, but for some reason I think I took more losses
08:10 <philippeqc> could I be over presemtuous and propose a different left side "menu" for the wiki
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: sure, however....
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> what I want to do is a top menu
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> here, check out my website again:
08:11 <GodTodd> top menus rule
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> use something that's not IE 6 or below :)
08:11 <philippeqc> I got inspired by www.jmock.org
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> you want the left menu setup like theirs?
08:12 <philippeqc> yes a bit. Actual display is not my concern, more how to group things
08:12 <philippeqc> I agree with your client/server main division
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> aha
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> the only real problem with that is that the wiki is a specialised site
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, we *are* free to group however we want
08:13 <philippeqc> so the "top" (bold on jMock) level would be "Playing" and "Hosting"
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, hang on, lemme give a better idea what I'm after
08:13 <philippeqc> each would have 3 sub-cat: "Getting Started" "Documentation" and "FAQ"
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> and you tell me how you're grouping fits
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> I want to have the top item, currently "getting around", "sections", "help on this site" as the items in a menu
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> when you hover over them, I want submenus to appear
08:14 <mkzelda> http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3261/floatinsa1.jpg
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> the only web browser that doesn't work on is IE 6 and below, and there's a javascript hack that should fix it when I get around to fooling with it again
08:15 <philippeqc> the "Getting Started" would be a basic (2-3 screen lenght) description how to get the game working and how to play. Nothing fancy.
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> IE 6 and below are somewheres around 20% of the market and decreasing, with IE 7 and the rest increasing
08:15 <philippeqc> ack on you top levels. Just move my top under "sections"
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Wiki_Structuring_Project
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> that page is less useful while email doesn't work from the wiki :/
08:18 <philippeqc> All that is fine, but i think it should go under "Documentation" for each of the 2 higher categories.
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> it's also intended to collect ongoing organization work, so that's really the best place to put down your suggestions, and I"m not trying to write you off, I'm just trying to avoid another useful contribution lost in the depths of irc logs
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> I think it's reasonable to have two top level buttons, one for players and one for server admins
08:19 <philippeqc> Right now the wiki feels a bit ackward. you need to already know lots about the game to use it. Just see all he basic "how to play the game" "how to install a server" we are gettin all the time on the forum. I dont feel the right to point them to the wiki
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is quickly finding what you're looking for, and I consider using the search feature to be a failure for us to organize :)
08:21 <philippeqc> is the wiki editable now? 
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> yes, just no email notifications
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also not in a hurry to change the navigation structure until after I've either gotten rico's motherboard to work or given up
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> because if I get it to work, the wiki's moving to it
08:23 <philippeqc> its not so much the navigation structure I'm talking about, just the way information is presented on the left panel. Now it feels a chaos
08:23 <Lucifer_arma> but once that thing boots up, I'll write the first component in the fancy project management directory I created in svn to automate wiki installation
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08:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, the sections section is the one that needs the most help
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> if all you want to do is that, then I'll give you a link where you can do that
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> but anything that requires editing the skin is out right now, that's what I meant about moving it
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> if you edit it, make sure you don't orphan any pages
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> the pages currently linked are all treated as top-level pages
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> er, that's protected
08:26 <philippeqc> thanks
08:26 <philippeqc> o oups
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, lemme give you rights to edit it
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> what's your username?
08:27 <philippeqc> Really, could we break "section" into 3 similar items. "Playing" "Hosting" "Miscellaneous"
08:27 <philippeqc> philippeqc
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> you can do whatever you want, just make sure you at least skim the restructuring page and don't orphan any pages
08:28 <philippeqc> ok
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> and document what you did to some reasonable extent on the restructuring page :)
08:29  * philippeqc goes to read the restructuring page
08:31  * philippeqc thinks luci pulled the good old "keep quiet someone about his stupid ideas by allowing him to attempt it", but doesnt really mind
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> haha.  You can't lose with that strategy!  Either you get something better, or you don't.  :)
08:32  * philippeqc gives luci the finger.... of appreciation
08:32  * GodTodd thinks Lucifer_arma pulled the "my knees hurt and i really don't have time to do it right now so if you want it done now, go ahead and try it" ;)
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08:34 <GodTodd> hrmmm anyone know of a way to avoid turning 32? 
08:34 <GodTodd> other than dying of course :P
08:34 <hang3r> build a time machine?
08:34 <hang3r> though you'd still age, just be going back in time I guess
08:35 <GodTodd> well...then you have to deal with the whole paradox thing
08:35 <philippeqc> turn 33 directly and avoid the ungrathefull 32
08:35 <GodTodd> heh
08:36 <GodTodd> guess i'll just have to suck it up and *act* young :)
08:36 <philippeqc> if you dont want to grow-up, grow sideways.
08:37 <GodTodd> spamming the forums with inane emo stuff...that ought to push me back to 13 or so :)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't manage to avoid turning 32, I don't think you will either
08:38 <philippeqc> D0NT F0RG3T TO US3 C4PS 4LL TH3 T1M3 AND T0 R3MOV3 ALL VOCALS FROM UR K3YBO4RD
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> vowels, you mean?
08:38 <philippeqc> LOL OMG!!!
08:38 <philippeqc> ;)
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> just be young
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> and keep in mind that in our generation, we can reasonably expect to live to see 100, so middle age is still nearly 2 decades away
08:39 <GodTodd> true
08:40 <GodTodd> even if for 30 of those years we'll pledge allegiance to the sickle and hammer ;)
08:40 <GodTodd> heh
08:40 <hang3r> It's more like: dun foget ot usE CAPZ 4LL TEH TIEM AN T0 B0RK THE INGRIDSH LANG EVEN MOER LOL!1
08:42 <GodTodd> i should just get a more physical hobby i suppose
08:42 <GodTodd> that can make you feel younger
08:42 <GodTodd> at least til your knees rebel ;)
08:42 <philippeqc> Yeah, like playing Wii
08:42 <hang3r> lol...
08:42 <philippeqc> Eating Doritos is a physical hobby
08:43 <GodTodd> you know you're boring when your day is made by getting a good deal on ribs
08:43 <GodTodd> :/
08:44 <philippeqc> Buying a red sport car scream "I'm really younger than I look its a medical condition, no thrust me I'm only 22 even though i'm balding and getting salt in my hair and no i'm not overcompensating thank you for asking!"
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> a "sporty car" or a real sports car?
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> where "sports car" is defined as either "car built for competitive racing" and/or "car built for offroad competitions"
08:45 <philippeqc> *fingers in my ears* Lalala! there is only one type of sport car and it's red. Lalalal!
08:46 <GodTodd> red cars get more speeding tickets
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I drive a red sporty car that I bought primarily for gas mileage :)
08:46 <GodTodd> i drive a mini suv
08:46 <GodTodd> heh
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> I also like small, japanese 5-speeds
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> two door, etc
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> the car can't move for shit, especially with the a/c on, but it's still fun to drive
08:47 <GodTodd> 4 cylinder?
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> yep
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> 3sf-e, iirc
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> maybe 2sf-e
08:47 <GodTodd> they usually have a problem with acceleration with ac on :)
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> 86 toyota celica.  It has the old camry motor in it :)
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, it has no problem with acceleration when I push the brake pedal.
08:48 <GodTodd> mine's a 4 but has pretty good pickup for a 10 year old car
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> it's that horizontally-opposed engine that makes the difference
08:48 <GodTodd> ahh
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> also, it's 10 years *newer* than my car anyway ;)
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's car, you can't even tell the difference with or without ac.  It's a v6 though.  (Camry)
08:49 <GodTodd> yeah...i liked my voyager because of the 6
08:49 <GodTodd> the tranny was close to dead tho
08:49 <GodTodd> :/
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, this v6 won a number of rally races when it was in the forerunner
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> not this exact v6, just the model
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> I've got the first series of the 86 celica, which was only made for 6 months.  They put a better engine in it later in production, and then swapped it out with inccrementally better up until 1989
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> in 1990 they went to an all-new production series
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> and 1986 is when the supra was spun off as a separate car, no longer an upper class celica
08:51 <GodTodd> heh
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> supra stayed a RWD, while celica went to FWD, and all they did was drop a camry drivetrain into a sporty two-door body when tey built my car
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> that was when the camry was still a compact 4-door family car, before it got all luxurized
08:52 <GodTodd> yeah
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> I want my old supra back :(
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> it was a 79, which was the first supra production series, and it got numerous changes up to 81, but the 79 started late and was only made for 6 months
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> 80 and 81 are distinct full-year production models, with the whole series lasting from 79-81
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> it was a relaly fun little car :)
08:56 <GodTodd> heh
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09:21 <Arma550> kotenfugg?
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09:27 <DrJoeTron> fuuuck
09:48 <philippeqc> Lucifer_arma: 
09:48 <philippeqc> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Help:Editing  is pretty much useless ;)
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> philippeqc: yes it is, but I don't see any links to it
09:54 <philippeqc> while editing a page of the wiki, at the botton of the page, it is referenced.
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Help:Contents  <--- a redirect to this page would be helpful
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> ok, made it a redirect
09:57 <philippeqc> thanks
09:57 <Lucifer_arma> redirect doesn't work right now for some reason
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> oh well, either it'll work in a few minutes/hours, or you can put something helpful there :)
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> I'm taking a shower and then going to bed
10:00 <philippeqc> ok
10:00 <philippeqc> cya
10:07 <DrJoeTron> cant
10:07 <DrJoeTron> sorry
10:08 <MrBougo> kotenfugg
10:08 <MrBougo> i'm out xD
10:08 <MrBougo> bye
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13:15 <epsy> hi
13:16 <node7> hi
13:17 <epsy> #time
13:17 <armabot> epsy: 01:22 PM, April 28, 2007
13:21  * node7 has a weird phenomenom happening... I somehow managed to move the part of the status bar which includes the beryl manager icon, xchat icon and so forth (not the quick start stuff) to the left of my sound/time/logout icons... and I can't get them back to the right... confusing
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13:28 <MrBougo> helo
13:30 <node7> hello Mr Bougo
13:31 <MrBougo> sshd down
13:31 <MrBougo> prolly back on wednesday
13:31 <digitx> hooooo bugi
13:31 <digitx> salut
13:31 <epsy> hay MrBougo 
13:31 <MrBougo> but i think it'll be kind of random
13:31 <MrBougo> hello digitx epsy 
13:31 <digitx> depsy
13:31 <digitx> dpsy
13:31 <node7> bougo, I found a replacement shel for myself
13:32 <node7> PN was a great free service, but I cant donate 10$ every month to keep their service running...
13:33 <epsy> node7, it's free and they force you to donate, haha 
13:33 <node7> they dont force anyone to donate
13:33 <node7> they ask for donations if they are short of money to pay their bills... and this happened the last 3 months
13:33 <epsy> hmm
13:34 <MrBougo> node7, what replacement shell?
13:34 <node7> they just should not be offering the service for free if they cant afford it
13:34 <MrBougo> lol
13:34 <MrBougo> thats like another shell provider
13:34 <MrBougo> "free shells!"
13:34 <node7> MrBougo, a friend was kind enough to give me one on his server
13:34 <MrBougo> "to get a free shell, you have to donate at least $5 every month"
13:34 <MrBougo> aw ok
13:35 <node7> bougo, I know.... it WAS a great service
13:35 <epsy> err...shell means ded server, right ?
13:35 <node7> but they have to reconsider their service if they have money problems every month
13:35 <MrBougo> node, i wasn't talking about p-n
13:36 <MrBougo> here they need money, and if some members donate, every other members can enjoy their services
13:36 <MrBougo> epsy, shell = a sorta linux terminal
13:36 <MrBougo> unix*
13:36 <node7> I know, but I am not in the position to donate every month, that's why I was looking for a free service in the first place
13:36 <MrBougo> me too
13:36 <node7> If I had the money to donate I'd be able to just get me a paid shell account
13:37 <node7> donating to THEM would be better of course since others would profit as well....
13:37 <MrBougo> dont feel like they are asking *YOU* to donate
13:37 <node7> nono I am not :)
13:37 <MrBougo> looks so
13:37 <epsy> MrBougo, i knew that def...but i really dont understand the conv if i start with this definition of the word
13:37 <node7> I would donate so others could profit, but they are short about 120 bucks each and every month, if I donate would it fix this? or would they stop the service anyways?
13:37 <MrBougo> epsy: well, we both have an account at phoenix-network.net
13:37 <MrBougo> which provides free shell accounts
13:38 <epsy> Firefox ne peut trouver le serveur à l'adresse www.phoenix-network.net.
13:38 <MrBougo> org*
13:38 <MrBougo> whoops
13:38 <MrBougo> you're right node7 
13:39 <MrBougo> if you donate $50 and they dont get enough...
13:39 <MrBougo> bleh
13:39 <node7> that's my concern ;)
13:40 <epsy> you know, in france we have *REALLY* interesting prices on virtual dedicated and dedicated servers
13:40 <node7> we should start a # for phoenix here on freenode too, so we dont have to spam other channels with unrelated crap
13:40 <MrBougo> you wont get your money back if they dont get enough donations :p
13:40 <node7> epsy, really?
13:40 <epsy> really
13:40 <epsy> from €1/month
13:40 <node7> for a vServer?
13:40 <epsy> yes
13:40 <MrBougo> wtf!
13:41 <node7> can you link me to some interesting providers maybe?
13:41 <MrBougo> with shell account?
13:41 <node7> of course with shell bougo :p
13:41 <MrBougo> :p
13:41 <epsy> node7, ok...wait i make a list of interesting ones
13:41  * MrBougo is dumb
13:41  * epsy found a hosting provider comparator
13:42 <epsy> http://www.guide-serveur.fr <-- that's the comparator i use...
13:42 <node7> I was talking to some friends the last couple of days about setting up a root server anyways... a lot of ppl are willing to put money into it and everybody would profit
13:43 <node7> the cheapest provider in Germany that I found to be interesting was 29.90or something
13:43 <epsy> node7, you want virtual ded servers or ded servers ?
13:43 <node7> it doesnt really matter
13:43 <node7> depends on the spezifications
13:43 <MrBougo> v ded means you have to share resources, right?
13:44 <epsy> http://www.guide-serveur.fr/lien/ADVISEO/ http://www.guide-serveur.fr/offres/serveur-dedie-virtuel-linux/YELLIS/VDSXS128/  http://www.guide-serveur.fr/offres/hebergeur/Performant-Hosting/
13:44 <node7> too bad I dont speak french, my girlfriend will have to help me translate later  epsy :p
13:44 <epsy> :P
13:44 <MrBougo> c'est quoi "mutualisé"?
13:44 <epsy> bah c un espace web, juste avec apache/php/mysql/pas ssh
13:45 <node7> well dedicated servers cost 20€ upwards as well ... but I'll check out a few of those
13:45 <MrBougo> ah ok
13:45 <epsy> node7, and if you want web hosting, prizes are under €1 :P
13:45 <MrBougo> ben merde alors
13:45 <node7> yeah, but I got webhosting :)
13:46 <epsy> what prize ?
13:46 <MrBougo> si tu prends un virtual, tu peux hoster en http, et faire tourner des backgrounds processes en même temps
13:46 <node7> like 40€ per year for 3 domains and 1gig of webspace or so
13:46 <node7> (that's my personal webspace)
13:47 <epsy> there is one thing i hate with yellis services
13:47 <epsy> they have only debin and ubuntu for vded servers
13:49 <node7> and the connection is capped at 1024 kbps
13:49 <node7> :p
13:49 <node7> (unless my poor french is betraying me?)
13:49 <MrBougo> heh, hoçw can you see a complete list?
13:49 <MrBougo> it's like 1, 2, ..., 19
13:49 <MrBougo> where the hell is 3 and 4 etc
13:49 <MrBougo> are*
13:49 <node7> well anyways, I have to take off... you guys take care
13:49 <epsy> MrBougo, choose a classification
13:49 <epsy> cu
13:49 <MrBougo> cya
13:50 <digitx> cu
13:51 <MrBougo> ima play trem
13:51 <digitx> i hate trem now
13:51 <digitx> :D
13:52 <MrBougo> :D
13:52  * MrBougo is now playing: Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren - Light The Skies (Retrobyte's Classic Electrobounce Mix)
13:52 <MrBougo> oops
13:53 <digitx> :D
13:53 <MrBougo> :p
14:05 <digitx> http://www.freevlog.hu/video/5372.html
14:05 <digitx> XDDDDDD
14:34 <epsy> zomg poor mario :P
14:37 <digitx> xD
14:53  * epsy just found a typo in engine/eVoter.cpp, line 182, char 35 xd
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14:55 <epsy> hay CT|P4 
14:55 <digitx> hay CT|P4 
14:56 <_Sticky_> epsy: a good way to get your name into the linux kernal is to correct the spelling and gramma of the code comments
14:56 <digitx> kernal
14:56 <digitx> xD
14:58 <MrBougo> xD
14:59 <MrBougo> bye all
14:59 <digitx> cu
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15:11 <CT|P4> hi guys
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15:19 <epsy> lol _Sticky_ 
15:20 <epsy> epsy@couloirgentoo ~ $ echo $((5^2))
15:20 <epsy> 7
15:20 <epsy> ...
15:20 <epsy> epsy@couloirgentoo ~ $ echo $((5×2))
15:20 <epsy> bash: 5×2: syntax error in expression (error token is "×2")
15:20 <epsy> that thing is shitty :P
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15:39 <P4> #sty
15:39 <armabot> P4: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (3/8): Spot, |JP| Rav, ©S¦µ4
15:41 <digitx> #serverinfo norm
15:41 <armabot> digitx: Norm's Place: Players (4/12): banana, L2K|cX, noob9, Voldemort
16:19 <epsy> hmm
16:20 <digitx> hmhmm
16:20 <digitx> banana is my grandpa
16:20 <digitx> XD
16:20 <digitx> palatinum
16:20 <digitx> ;)
16:34 <philippeqc> hi all
16:34 <philippeqc> I'm updating the FAQ
16:34 <philippeqc> could you give me some of the buzzwords often used in AA that have a specific meaning for us?
16:34 <philippeqc> like rubber
16:34 <philippeqc> or grinding
16:35 <philippeqc> or fortress
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17:07 <ghableska> #weather 50266
17:07 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 66.7°F (10:10 AM CDT on April 28, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.07 in 984.3 hPa (Rising). 
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17:14 <MrBougo> hello
17:18 <digitx> salut!
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17:24 <MrBougo> helo
17:26 <ghableska> hi MrBougo 
17:26 <MrBougo> #ghab
17:27 <armabot> MrBougo: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 68.7°F (10:30 AM CDT on April 28, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.07 in 984.3 hPa (Rising). 
17:27 <MrBougo> :p
17:27 <philippeqc> Alo
17:27 <philippeqc> Salut
17:27 <philippeqc> sunt eu
17:27 <ghableska> -_-
17:27 <MrBougo> yelo
17:27 <philippeqc> un haiduc
17:27 <ghableska> numa numa?
17:27 <digitx> XD
17:27 <MrBougo> wtf
17:27 <philippeqc> Vrei sa pleci dar
17:27 <philippeqc> nu ma, nu ma iei, 
17:28 <philippeqc> Nu ma, nu ma iei
17:28 <ghableska> philippeqc, nooo, stop it!
17:28 <philippeqc> yes
17:28  * philippeqc gives 1 cookie point to ghableska 
17:28 <ghableska> :D
17:29 <ghableska> #crazylate philippeqc gives 1 cookie point to ghableska
17:30 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
17:30 <ghableska> grr
17:31 <philippeqc> who is crazylate?
17:42 <duudii> #lastseen noob7
17:42 <armabot> duudii: noob7 has last been seen on The GREEEN Submarine             (thelbx.com) 0 days 15 hours 46 minutes ago.
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17:44 <duudii> #seen node7 
17:44 <armabot> duudii: node7 was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 54 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <node7> well anyways, I have to take off... you guys take care
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17:56 <MrBougo> #t english french test
17:56 <armabot> MrBougo: essai
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18:29 <MrBougo> that google notes extension sounds good
18:29 <MrBougo> but it looks experimental
18:30 <MrBougo> and it's a .xpi extension, designed for firefox, but it looks like an old IE-ready site
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--- Log opened Sat Apr 28 21:27:22 2007
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21:28 <Lucifer_arma> I don't wanna die!  I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all!!!!!
21:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, that's neat that he can play like that with his hands, but he was totally off-key
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21:32 <Arma603> gue
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21:34 <MrBougo> i'm off
21:34 <MrBougo> those Arma??? rock my socks
21:34 <MrBougo> bye
21:34 <MrBougo> sweet xdreams
21:34 <MrBougo> err
21:34 <MrBougo> dreams*
21:35 <MrBougo> well, xdreams too, if you want some
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21:47 <Durka> hi Lacks, spidey
22:49 <digitx> #kernel
22:49 <armabot> digitx: The latest stable kernel is 2.6.21.1; the latest snapshot of the stable kernel is 2.6.21-git2; the latest beta kernel is 2.6.21-rc7-mm2.
22:57 <ghableska> #weathr 50266
22:57 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 78.6°F (4:00 PM CDT on April 28, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Rising). 
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23:29 <neostrider> hello folks
23:29 <Angel-H> hi :)
23:30 <_Sticky_> #ping
23:30 <armabot> pong
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23:30 <Durka> #lastseen badmin
23:31 <Durka> :P
23:31 <armabot> Durka: Badmin has last been seen on  Wild West  =Sumo= 10 minutes ago.
23:31 <DrJoeTron> get your own material Durka!
23:32 <Durka> #lastseen bikeis
23:32 <armabot> Durka: MyBikeIsFIGHT has last been seen on  Wild West  =CTF Shooting= 0 days 14 hours 32 minutes ago.
23:32 <Durka> :P
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen fightis
23:33 <Durka> :P
23:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
23:41 <ghableska> #bye
23:41 <armabot> Goodbye ghableska :(
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23:51 <DrJoeTron> bike is fight is there just to grief people
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