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Log from 2007-01-25:
--- Day changed Thu Jan 25 2007
00:36 -!- P4|away is now known as P4
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00:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_work Vanhayes ghableska 
00:39 <ghableska> what?
00:39 <spidey> oh
00:39 <spidey> ghableska = GodTodd 
00:40 <ghableska> ...
00:40 <spidey> forgot to press tab again
00:40 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:40 <ghableska> psh
00:40 <spidey> civ?
00:40 <luke-jr_work> maybe after I go home :p
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00:58 <P4> hi guys ;]
00:58 <P4> you are students as i can see ;)
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00:59 <P4> a bit of polish humour: http://www.zeus-freestyle.za.pl/lol.htm <=- 1st for engineers, 2nd for students of my univeristy, have fun ;>
01:10 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ping!
01:10 <DrJoeTron> spidey wtf
01:10 <spidey> defcon? :D
01:10 <DrJoeTron> EHHHHHHHHHH
01:10 <spidey> you know you wanna!
01:11 <DrJoeTron> I do, but I want more people
01:11 <P4> defcon or defqon? the tekno party or the haxorz party? ;)
01:11 <DrJoeTron> in fact
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01:11 <DrJoeTron> one sec
01:11 <spidey> defcon (the game)
01:11 <P4> oh :) lol
01:11 <P4> what kind of game is it?
01:11 <P4> as playable as tron? ;>
01:11 <spidey> the  one where you nuke people
01:11 <spidey> well
01:12 <P4> fpp/tpp?
01:12 <spidey> you know that movie wargames?
01:12 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
01:12 <DrJoeTron> is 10pm ok?
01:12 <P4> nope, is it sth like paintball?
01:12 <DrJoeTron> my friend wants to finish his paper and play with us
01:13 <spidey> ok
01:13 <spidey> but i'm hosting :P
01:13 <spidey> you lag to much
01:13 <DrJoeTron> ko
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01:13 <spidey> where's mom been lately? o.O
01:13 <spidey> mkzelda, Vanhayes  you 2 wanna play defcon?
01:14 <DrJoeTron> it is a mystery
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01:17 <spidey> hey it's that todd guy
01:17 <GodTodd> spidey:): stfu
01:17 <GodTodd> :D
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only playing civ if we start later, play 2.1.0_beta2, and save it off after 3-4 hours
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> and luke doesn't play, but that goes without saying
01:19 <spidey> lol
01:20 <GodTodd> olo
01:21 <spidey> ...
01:23 <GodTodd> >>>
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> also, the ais in 2.1.0_beta2 are a lot smarter than the old dumb ais.  Also, peace is harder to get.
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> Treaties have had some work.  You're at war by default with someone.  You have to declare a cease-fire, then agree to peace, at which time you get an Armistice instead
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> when a cease-fire expires, you're at war.  When the armistice expires, you're at peace.
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> I finally managed to play where the novice ais didn't own me, and then I quickly outpaced most of them for techs and production
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, 2.1 has enough improvements to make it worth ditching the warclient and warserver, imo.  I just need to try the ruleset and see how that goes on it.
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02:11 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 29.1°F (7:06 PM CST on January 24, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Pressure: 29.25 in 990.4 hPa. 
02:13 <DrJoeTron> ghableska, 
02:13 <DrJoeTron> do you know what time it is?
02:13 <DrJoeTron> time for chili
02:13 <ghableska> you're right
02:13 <DrJoeTron> or to get ts, and play defcon with spidey and i, and as well as one of my friends
02:13 <ghableska> it IS pretty cold
02:13 <DrJoeTron> tonight
02:14 <ghableska> nothing like chili to warm up :)
02:14 <DrJoeTron> :D
02:14 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: I'll get it on the weekend
02:14 <DrJoeTron> you say it like its so far away
02:14 <ghableska> it is!
02:14 <ghableska> actually, on Friday
02:14 <DrJoeTron> www.goteamspeak.com :d
02:15 <ghableska> I know, I know...
02:15 <DrJoeTron> looks like I'm free this weekend now
02:15 <DrJoeTron> I'm not going to byobmeet
02:15 <DrJoeTron> thank goawd
02:15 <ghableska> hahaha
02:15 <ghableska> I remember you saying something about that on the surf server
02:15 <ghableska> byob = ?
02:16 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=174
02:16 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt really mean anything
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02:16 <DrJoeTron> its name used to be FYAD: Casual encounters
02:16 <ghableska> bring your own bat?
02:16 <ghableska> O_o
02:17 <ghableska> err
02:17 <ghableska> what's with the cat?
02:17 <DrJoeTron> sir flufflington?
02:17 <ghableska> who?
02:17 <DrJoeTron> the cat
02:18 <ghableska> I know
02:18 <ghableska> who's sir fluffington, exactly?
02:18 <DrJoeTron> the cat
02:19  * ghableska is reminded about recursion
02:20 <DrJoeTron> and comic sans? :D
02:21 <ghableska> ew
02:21 <ghableska> I don't like that font
02:21  * ghableska likes verdana
02:24 <luke-jr> spidey_: 
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02:30 <ghableska> oh, DrJoeTron
02:30 <ghableska> I don't have defcon
02:32 <DrJoeTron> get the demp
02:32 <DrJoeTron> demo
02:32 <ghableska> ok
02:54 <spidey_> luke-jr, 
02:54 <luke-jr> spidey_: 
02:54 <spidey_> luke-jr, 
02:55 <luke-jr> spidey_: 
02:55 <ghableska> #luke
02:55 <armabot> [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you (1 more message)
02:56 <spidey_> DrJoeTron, we still on for defcon? :D
02:56 <ghableska> :O
02:58 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:58 <spidey_> ghableska: ERROR: you use this command too much
02:58 <ghableska> stfu spidey_
02:58 <spidey_> :P
02:58 <spidey_> ok ghable
02:59 <spidey_> i'ma start calling you that cause i like it :D
02:59 <ghableska> ghable? o_O
02:59 <ghableska> it's better than what luke-jr_work calls me
02:59 <spidey_> ?
02:59 <spidey_> (17:55:46) luke: haha
02:59 <spidey_> (17:55:49) luke: i got ghable
02:59 <spidey_> :P
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03:01 <ghableska> X_X
03:03 <DrJoeTron> for 10
03:03 <spidey> yea
03:03 <spidey> 2 hours
03:03 <ghableska> spidey: was it you or lizz that made me download ts?
03:03 <spidey> um
03:03 <spidey> i think lizz
03:03 <spidey> my server's down right now
03:03 <spidey> i gotta reinstall debian
03:04 <spidey> and it's froze once...so..
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03:13 <spidey> what's those huge pci slots called?
03:13 <spidey> the old ones that are black
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03:18 <Vanhayes> #night
03:18 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:34 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with imageshack --nolimit
03:34 <armabot> spidey: [20:48:36] <spidey> http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2842/untitled1jx.jpg
03:34 <spidey> only one? :/
03:36 <spidey> hmm, i wonder if i could keep this pc on 31 years so my dhcp lease expires
03:36 <spidey> O.O
03:42  * luke-jr notes you keep your DHCP lease across reboots
03:42 <luke-jr> ISA slots are not PCI
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04:16 <ghableska>  
04:17 <luke-jr>  
04:52 <DrJoeTron> ping
04:53 <ghableska> pong
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04:59 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
04:59 <DrJoeTron> go into the teamspeak server
04:59 <DrJoeTron> see if you can connect
05:00 <DrJoeTron> I seem to be having problems
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05:02 <spidey> duudii, 
05:02 <spidey> WHAT'S JOE'S TS IP?
05:02 <spidey> ser
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05:04 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
05:04 <spidey> what's your ip?
05:04 <spidey> ts ip*
05:04 <DrJoeTron> passs is option
05:09 <DrJoeTron> spidey, http://www.ccleaner.com/
06:24 <spidey> joe got pwnt :P
06:59 <spidey> http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=abyss
06:59 <spidey> that movie's listed under now playing
07:00 <spidey> meaning that site hasn't been updated since 1989
07:00 <spidey> like, wtf?
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07:18 <DrJoeTron> nothing is as fun as playing in a server and then everyone leaving because you're winning :3
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> man, I should've just signed up for engineering physics last semester
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> displacement is relative to the origin, or relative to the object's initial position?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, wikipedia says it's either
07:32 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: :P
07:32 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft hmm?
07:33 <DrJoeTron> pong?
07:36  * wrtlprnft was agreeing with DrJoeTron about entering a server and have everyone leave because he's too good
07:36 <DrJoeTron> ahhhhh! ;d
07:36 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:37 <wrtlprnft> to agree about sth/to agree on sth?
07:37 <wrtlprnft> apparently just “on”
07:38 <wrtlprnft> and over, but that's something else
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08:14 <spidey> http://gagazozo.free.fr/cache/200308-erebuss.jpg
08:14 <spidey> that's for you DrJoeTron
08:20 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=321848487#post321848487 this has my interest more
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08:33 <Durka> spidey: ping
08:33 <spidey> no i don't want to join tui
08:34 <Durka> no
08:34 <Durka> sky wants to talk to u
08:34 <spidey> ..
08:34 <Durka> #serverdetails =fortress
08:34 <armabot> Durka: Wild West  =Fortress=: Players (1/16): Sky
08:34 <spidey> man
08:34 <Durka> interesting...it doesnt say im in the server for some reason =_=
08:34 <spidey> i'm busy writing a long as reply to where the world will be by 2050
08:34 <spidey> :/
08:35 <Durka> lol
08:35 <spidey> i don't see a =fortress=
08:36 <Durka> ww fort
08:36 <DrJoeTron> join my clam yo
08:37 <spidey> no one wants to be a prawn
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08:44  * Durka wants to join Joe's clam
08:44 <Durka> >;;ccc3fjaosdifjwfsa
09:00 <Durka> #armaservers
09:00 <armabot> Durka: ShadowLight Australian Grid (5 players) || Wild West =Fortress= (3 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (2 players) || The Lobster Tub(TEST) (0 players) || ~^Renegade Clan Server:. High Rubber (0 players) || The Dip Bowl (0 players) || U M R Armagetron Server (0 players) || Weasel Systems Racing Grid (0 players) || LOL PARTY PALACE (0 players) || (1 more message)
09:00 <Durka> #serverdetails dynasty_server
09:00 <armabot> Durka: -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server: Players (2/12): .dBd|Ja$oNg920, blade
09:01 <Durka> #serverdetails australian_grid
09:01 <armabot> Durka: ShadowLight Australian Grid: Players (5/16): :), Killer Rabbit, Knight of Nee, Smith, Wizzee
09:08 <Durka> #night
09:08 <armabot> Good night Durka!
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10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r7055 /private/Lucifer/sconsbranch/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: Started pretty configure output. Still need to finish adding all the calls to
10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: AAConfigure::HasItem, since that's our method for collecting the results of the
10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: tests, determining if we can build based on those results, and collecting the
10:23 <armabot> armagetronad: information we need to display to the user.
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13:36 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: any reason not to make jonathan a sysop on the wiki with all the spam?
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13:59 <guru3> ive got a cursed tracker entry on sourceforge
13:59 <guru3> it keeps getting spammed
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14:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/wikispam.txt
14:01 <guru3> i may need to find a good text editor for mac
14:01 <wrtlprnft> gvim?
14:01 <guru3> who knows
14:01 <guru3> spam is on the rise eh
14:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:01 <wrtlprnft> quite badly
14:01 <guru3> it was going up on the forums too
14:01 <guru3> not sure how many its blocked
14:02 <guru3> didn't add a counter ><
14:02 <guru3> if i had i could have neat-o graphs too
14:02 <wrtlprnft> :D
14:02 <guru3> ><
14:02 <guru3> all i did was some template magic
14:02 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Special:Log/block
14:02 <guru3> so that spam bots got side tracked
14:02 <wrtlprnft> generated from this and some vim magic
14:02 <wrtlprnft> this/that/whatever
14:03 <guru3> ah
14:03 <guru3> the spambots that posted on the forums
14:03 <guru3> i banned the ips in iptables
14:03 <guru3> over 100
14:03 <wrtlprnft> I think the only way to fight spam is to have everyone implement their own protection
14:03 <guru3> the script that starts the firewall parses that list
14:03 <guru3> it's starting to hang on it
14:03 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:04 <guru3> cause it's a : delminated list
14:04 <guru3> afk
14:04 <wrtlprnft> cya
14:04 <guru3> need to drain pasta
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14:06 <guru3> in room with said pasta now
14:07 <wrtlprnft> enjoy your meal
14:07 <guru3> mid adding olive oil salt and parsely
14:10 <guru3> now i can enjoy
14:31 <guru3> that was good
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15:39 <k3nNy_> #weather innsbruck
15:39 <armabot> k3nNy_: The current temperature in Innsbruck, Austria is 28.4°F (3:20 PM CET on January 25, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa. 
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17:05 <madmax|pt> [#armagetron] 
17:05 <madmax|pt> oops
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17:50 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: accidential copy and paste in irssi eh?
17:57 <luke-jr_work> [madmax|pt]
17:57 <luke-jr_work> oops
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18:07 <madmax|pt> OS X's text drag and drop, in irssi
18:08 <madmax|pt> powerful mix
18:16 <luke-jr_work> right... because d&d is an OS X invention
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18:20 <madmax|pt> that wasn't my point
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19:21 <Vanhayes> #ping
19:21 <armabot> pong
19:21 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
19:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Strawberry Fields (11 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || ~^Renegade Clan Server:. High Rubber (4 players) || ¦Ö¦ Server: Fortress (4 players) || G-Land (A Swamplords server) (3 players) || (1 more message)
19:22 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails cafe
19:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): $C|JaNu007, ****, CTT|Unr3a1, DarkMaster13, florianvogt, FunYunS, HoA¦Ö¦	RiKiMaRu, King Eric, Legit, perfection, sufigohriv, ¦×¥ FoFo, ¦×¥ W4z3r|nô^Ôa
19:25 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: how come your server doesnt show up with #armaservers?
19:28  * spidey yawns
19:28 <spidey> wrtlprnft: how come your server doesnt show up with #armaservers?
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19:41 <z-man> Are those ^}LC}< guys on the forum Lobsters?
19:46 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
19:46 <epsy> hi
19:46 <duudii> hello
19:55 <spidey> hi
19:56 <[dlh]> z-man: I don't think so.
20:07 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: dunno
20:07 <wrtlprnft> spidey: dunno
20:11 <spidey> lol
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20:19 <z-man> wrtlprnft: one answer fits all :)
20:21 <z-man> Ah, I knew I'd have a use for this page one day :)
20:29 <spidey> grr
20:29 <spidey> i don't understand
20:29 <spidey> raw debian...and ubuntu both freeze on the base install
20:29 <spidey> :'(
20:29 -!- s73022ao [n=s73022ao@sand.cise.ufl.edu] has joined #armagetron
20:29 <s73022ao> hello?
20:30 <s73022ao> it's kamp
20:30 <spidey> hi
20:30 <epsy> hi
20:30 <spidey> er
20:30 <s73022ao> yo
20:30 <s73022ao> i need to remember how to change my name
20:30 <s73022ao> thought it was /name, but i can only guess it's not
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20:58 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/info/geodreieck.php
20:59 <wrtlprnft> SVG+JS rocks :)
20:59 <wrtlprnft> works in opera and FF, but much faster in opera
21:01 <epsy> yeah but...
21:02 <epsy> how i put an arma map behind it ? :P
21:02 <wrtlprnft> lol, which one?
21:02 <epsy> hehe
21:04 <luke-jr_work> has anyone looked at Git?
21:04 <epsy> ?
21:04 <epsy> a git repo for arma?
21:05 <wrtlprnft> umm
21:05 <wrtlprnft> the link i just showed is managed in a git repo
21:05 <wrtlprnft> it's a project for my computer science class, and i'm supposed to keep track of it
21:05 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:05 <luke-jr_work> ah
21:05 <wrtlprnft> so i just put it in a repository and am committing it once in a while
21:06 <luke-jr_work> any idea what the shortcomings are?
21:06 <luke-jr_work> eg, why darcs over git, etc
21:06 <wrtlprnft> git acually looks quite nice
21:06 <epsy> there is one project i check out regularly, and it's worse everytime :/
21:06 <[dlh]> git has a pretty crappy interface.
21:06 <epsy> *one project that use git, of course
21:07 <luke-jr_work> hm
21:07 <[dlh]> there are wrappers that try to make the interface nicer. I can't seem to recall what the project is called, though.
21:08 <epsy> but i dont know if it's better for commiters....
21:08 <[dlh]> what commiters?
21:09 <epsy> commit'ers
21:09 <epsy> the devs, the coders...
21:09 <[dlh]> we'd use something like tailor to have an svn mirror for easy use.
21:10 <[dlh]> z-man seems set on svk, though :-(
21:12 <luke-jr_work> last I checked, darcs was planned
21:13 <[dlh]> http://www.spearce.org/category/projects/scm/pg/ <-- there is that nicer git interface thing.
21:13 <wrtlprnft> epsy: if you want a map, reload the page :)
21:15 <epsy> hrhr
21:15 <epsy> takes hours to load :P
21:15 <wrtlprnft> really?
21:16 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: [dlh]: how does git compare w/ darcs?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> it's just a png
21:16 <luke-jr_work> git is just a png?!?!
21:16 <luke-jr_work> :p
21:16 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: dunno really, i just tried it out
21:16  * epsy 's connectiong is weird
21:16 <luke-jr_work> epsy: DSL?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work's connection is weird, too
21:16 <[dlh]> git repos are much smaller
21:16 <epsy> sure
21:16 <epsy> but old one ;)
21:16 <luke-jr_work> epsy: set MTU to 1480 or smth
21:16 <[dlh]> darcs is a space hog.
21:16 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: so git > darcs?
21:16 <luke-jr_work> in every way?
21:17 <wrtlprnft> no, git < darks
21:17 <[dlh]> ugh, did I say that?
21:17 <wrtlprnft> [dlh] just said its repositories are smaller
21:17 <luke-jr_work> well, where does git fall short?
21:17 <[dlh]> git ≠ darcs
21:18 <[dlh]> We just need someone to figure out tailor and then we can use every SCM :)
21:19 <[dlh]> I've only used git a little, but I stopped because the interface sucked.
21:19 <luke-jr_work> hrm
21:20 <epsy> luke-jr_work, ?
21:20 <[dlh]> Whatever we do, it seems we need to keep a subversion mirror as not to scare away patch submitters.
21:20 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:20 <luke-jr_work> unless the new one is just as friendly ;)
21:21 <luke-jr_work> I'm thinking about making a new SCM actually
21:21 <luke-jr_work> without the notion of files or directories
21:22 <luke-jr_work> not on the server end, anyhow
21:22 <epsy> luke-jr_work, MTU?
21:22 <luke-jr_work> epsy:           UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
21:22 <luke-jr_work> ip link set eth0 mtu 1480
21:23 <luke-jr_work> 1492 actually
21:23 <[dlh]> luke-jr_work: they already exist :)
21:23 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: ?
21:25 <[dlh]> http://map.squeak.org/package/66236497-7026-45f5-bcf6-ad00ba7a8a4e or other Smalltalk version control systems.
21:25 <[dlh]> of course, you can only put Smalltalk code in them...
21:26 <[dlh]> better link -> http://www.wiresong.ca/Monticello
21:26 <wrtlprnft> what i really dislike about git is the long commit names
21:29 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:30 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: yeah, not ideal ;p
21:30 <[dlh]> we could use git-svn to mirror git<->subversion, at-least.
21:41  * z-man notes that he's just using SVK because it's one thing that works out of the box with what we currently have.
21:42 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:42 <luke-jr_work> that's what I thought
21:43 <z-man> It works relatively well, I have to say thate.
21:43 <z-man> -e
21:44 <z-man> There were some strange occurences like conflicts just from trivial merges, though.
21:44 <z-man> Darcs wasn't without problems for me lately, either. Io uses darcs, as you may recall.
21:45 <z-man> And pulling two months worth of changes into my repository with a trivial makefile change (added installation of the headers) hung for minutes.
21:45 <z-man> I finally shot it down, reverted the change, and then the pull went through.
21:46 <z-man> I don't know what would have happened if I had recorded my change, though. I'll try that next time.
22:01 <luke-jr_work> O.o
22:01 <luke-jr_work> I tried 'darcs up'ing darcs a few days ago
22:01 <luke-jr_work> it crashed unless I pulled all
22:01 <luke-jr_work> err, 'darcs pull'
22:02 <luke-jr_work> and darcs has the problems with copying/links/history still
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22:52 <spidey> luke-jr_work suxs
22:52 <luke-jr_work> u
22:56 <Vanhayes> #help luke
22:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: (luke <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo [x][x][x][x][x][x][x][x][x][x]".
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23:20 <Vanhayes> hey ghab
23:21 <ghableska> hey van
23:21 <Vanhayes> #weather 50266
23:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 27.7°F (4:17 PM CST on January 25, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa. 
23:21 <Vanhayes> heh
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23:21  * Vanhayes is surprised he got that right on the first try
23:22 <s73022ao> hm
23:22 <s73022ao> how do you change your name>
23:22 <s73022ao> ?
23:22 <s73022ao> ...
23:22 <Vanhayes>  /nick
23:22 -!- s73022ao is now known as kamp
23:23 <kamp> there we go
23:23 <kamp> so what's up
23:23  * kamp talks to the wall a little more
23:23 <guru3> the sky
23:24 <kamp> are you indoors?
23:24 <guru3> maybe
23:24 <kamp> heh, how can you be sure the sky's still up?
23:24 <guru3> i can see out a window
23:24 <guru3> maybe
23:25 <kamp> may have broken into pieces (defying all logic) and fallen
23:25 <kamp> maybe you can see out a window?
23:25 <guru3> well if i'm not inside i can't really see out a window
23:26 <kamp> unless you're outside, looking in, and using the word "sky" for what most people would call "ceiling"
23:26 <kamp> which means you should probably be studied
23:27 <guru3> it's only weird if it does harm to other people
23:27 <kamp> hmm
23:27 <kamp> well it does
23:27 <kamp> it would disconcert the people inside. They'd think they were being stalked or spied upon
23:28 <guru3> how often do you talk about the sky (or cieling) when you're inside anyway
23:28 <kamp> i don't
23:29 <kamp> but you brought up the sky in the first place
23:29 <kamp> so you might be the one to answer that question
23:29 <guru3> so it cant hurt to call it something else
23:29 <kamp> like a car?
23:29 <guru3> sure
23:30 <kamp> it doesn't hurt physically, but it will eventually catch up to you societally
23:30 <guru3> not if you don't have any friends to start with
23:30 <kamp> sure it does
23:30 <kamp> you need to speak a language people understand
23:30 <kamp> and that's by using symbols that match up a form and a meaning
23:30 <guru3> only when you're talking to other people
23:30 <kamp> agreed forms and meanings
23:31 <kamp> so... you use the wrong words for things when you're talking to yourself
23:31 <kamp> that kind of person NEEDS to be studied :P
23:31 <guru3> you could is all
23:31 <kamp> heh
23:31 <kamp> it's possible, but impractical and complicated
23:32 <kamp> guru3... the guy that runs the servers right?
23:32 <guru3> could be
23:32 <kamp> and develop armagetron much?
23:33 <kamp> hey hey, I'm asking for a reason
23:33 <guru3> sort of
23:33 <kamp> I was at Career Showcase yesterday, and talking to a recruiter from Microsoft
23:33 <guru3> i just kind of help out morally
23:33 <kamp> I'm not a senior, so I'm not looking for a job, so I just asked him what he looked for
23:34 <kamp> and they said a lot of out-of-school projects
23:34 <guru3> ive only got one really
23:34 <kamp> i figured i ought to start choosing opensource projects to contribute to for now, so I can put it on my resume
23:34 <kamp> only got one... project?
23:35 <guru3> well that i'mc currently active in
23:35 <guru3> ive helped out a bit in one or two others
23:35 <kamp> ah
23:35 <guru3> and then done a few small things myself
23:35 <kamp> so you're a programmer
23:35 <guru3> sort of
23:36 <guru3> but it's not what i'm studying
23:36 <kamp> ah
23:36 <guru3> more like a hobby
23:36 <kamp> what're you studying?
23:36 <guru3> civil engineering
23:36 <kamp> ah, not toooo far off
23:36 <guru3> in a vauge sort of way
23:36 <kamp> there was a Civil Eng. meeting yesterday
23:37 <kamp> they had free pizza, but they couldn't find a room
23:37 <kamp> so I didn't get any :(
23:37 <guru3> pizza eh
23:37 <guru3> the civengsoc here has had an event or two
23:38 <guru3> but it's just been like going out drinking
23:38 <guru3> so ive skipped those
23:38 <kamp> heh
23:38 <guru3> (and not joined the society)
23:38 <kamp> aw, why?
23:38 <guru3> not a drinking person
23:38 <kamp> nothing wrong with some drinking for engineering
23:38 <kamp> ah, well, that'll do it
23:38 <guru3> joined the lan gaming society tho
23:38 <kamp> err
23:39 <kamp> that's all wrong
23:39 <kamp> well
23:39 <kamp> nothing against the lan gaming society, but it doesn't make sense to choose it over the civengsoc
23:39 <guru3> it's not a choosing it over
23:39 <kamp> at least, not if you're in civil engineering
23:39 <guru3> it's a choosing what you want to do
23:40 <kamp> yea
23:40 <kamp> except one is a little better in the big picture
23:40 <kamp> or long run
23:40 <kamp> long run is a better metaphor
23:41 <guru3> societies here are more like meeting up with people with similar interests
23:41 <guru3> in a social environment
23:41 <kamp> ah
23:41 <kamp> well
23:42 <guru3> i think
23:42 <kamp> it's the same here, but it's usually best to choose them in accordance with what you want to do later, since most professional clubs and whatnot have activities and conferences that relate to the profession
23:42 <guru3> i can keep up with what's going on by reading the poster boards
23:43 <guru3> yeah i know
23:43 <kamp> like SHPE: Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers or whatever
23:43 <guru3> im sort of a wacky person tho
23:43 <kamp> ah
23:43 <kamp> well
23:43 <kamp> i guess that's the big difference
23:43 <kamp> what the class size in your university? not class size... the population, you know, the amount of students?
23:43 <guru3> 20K or so i think
23:44 <kamp> not bad
23:44 <kamp> 50k here. it's pretty easy to be completely excluded from a club if you're not careful
23:44 <guru3> yeah the clubs here are pretty small for the most part i think
23:44 <kamp> but if they regularly update their posters and you check it, i guess there's no problem
23:45 <guru3> at least the lan gaming one is
23:45 <kamp> heh
23:45 <kamp> i'm not surprised that one's small
23:45 <kamp> most larger clubs are professional ones, here at least :)
23:45 <guru3> not sure about here
23:45 <guru3> clubs here go thru the student union for the most part
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23:46 <kamp> student union?
23:47 <guru3> union of students
23:47 <kamp> do they do everything through the student union?
23:47 <kamp> heh
23:47 <guru3> not sure exactly
23:47 <kamp> hmm
23:47 <guru3> only been here a semester
23:47 <kamp> here, they need to be accepted as clubs by student gov't, but they work entirely independently
23:47 <kamp> likewise
23:48 <guru3> heh
23:48 <guru3> i'm not a very social person
23:48 <kamp> meh
23:48 <kamp> i wasn't so much in high school, but I forced myself into it. Turned out pretty well so far
23:49 <guru3> i didn't have a lot of options in highschool
23:49 <kamp> ah
23:49 <kamp> that sucks
23:49 <guru3> english only speaker not in an english country...
23:50 <ghableska> heh
23:50 <kamp> ah, which country are you in?
23:50 <kamp> hey ghab
23:50 <guru3> england now
23:50 <kamp> ohh oh, in high school
23:50 <ghableska> hi kamp :)
23:50 <guru3> sweden
23:51 <kamp> ok ok
23:51 <kamp> makes sense
23:51 <kamp> ah sweden, the country of excessively good schools
23:51 <kamp> at least last time i checked
23:51 <kamp> maybe that's changed?
23:51 <guru3> oh i dunno
23:51 <guru3> the school was pretty good i guess
23:53 <kamp> what would be the best way to find all the factors of a number?
23:53 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-75-59-230-111.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
23:53 <kamp> i want to do this problem... don't want to do it the brute force way
23:53 <kamp> hey joe
23:53 <guru3> dunno
23:53 <kamp> me neither
23:53 <DrJoeTron> too fucking bad kamp 
23:53 <DrJoeTron> :D how are ya
23:53 <kamp> you know, my sister was in Chicago this last weekend
23:54 <kamp> she said it was cold
23:54 <kamp> :P
23:54 <DrJoeTron> its pretty cold
23:54 <kamp> yea
23:54 <kamp> it's extremely cold here
23:54 <kamp> like 60
23:54 <kamp> and the sun's still up
23:54 <kamp> crazy
23:54 <kamp> anyway
23:54 <kamp> i gtg
23:54 <ghableska> cya
23:54 <DrJoeTron> see ya
23:54 <kamp> Intel is having an information session, so I'm going to check it out
23:54 <DrJoeTron> eww
23:54 <kamp> nice talking to you guru
23:54 <DrJoeTron> have fun :d
23:55 <kamp> can't say the same for Joe
23:55 <kamp> :)
23:55 <DrJoeTron> damn straight
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23:55 <guru3> hf
23:55 <guru3> wooo he's gone
23:56 <spidey> i hate kamp...
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