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Log from 2007-01-23:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 23 2007
00:00 <whatah> I just returned back to my university and through some sort of packet shaper, they are slowing my tron traffic down to an impossible to use ping of 500ms or more.
00:01 <whatah> To get around the packet shaping, one could use encryption
00:02 <whatah> how likely would it be that if encryption was made optional to connect to a server, it would be integrated into armagetron
00:03 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7046 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3_alpha7045.macosx.dmg
00:03 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
00:04 <luke-jr_work> whatah: a few things
00:05 <luke-jr_work> 1) they're not likely targetting Arma specifically with shaping, thus Low-Priority is the *default*
00:05 <luke-jr_work> 2) encrypting Arma will just be yet another unknown protocol, which falls back to the default of Low-Priority
00:06 <luke-jr_work> Using specifically SSL on port 443 might be shaped as HTTPS traffic at a higher priority, but
00:06 <luke-jr_work> 3) encryption adds latency/lag/ping
00:06 <luke-jr_work> 4) port 443 is a low port, and is reserved for administrator/root users
00:07 <luke-jr_work> 5) HTTPS is TCP, which can add delays if a single packet is dropped
00:07 <luke-jr_work> to conclude, ask your university to unblock arma :)
00:07 <luke-jr_work> or rather, to prioritize it
00:10 <whatah> You make good points, but I think that encrypted traffic would be more likely to get through
00:10 <whatah> I will setup a test using an ssh tunnel to verify, though.
00:11 <whatah> regarding 3) it would be an optional encryption, I think that the overhead on encryption would be less than the shit my university does to my packets
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00:11 <whatah> so, only those who have to get through bastard admins would use the encryption
00:11 <luke-jr_work> whatah: SSH might also be prioritised
00:12 <luke-jr_work> in fact, they may very well prioritise all low/admin ports
00:12 <whatah> So, better idea would be to ask about removing their restrictions on my arma playing?
00:13 <luke-jr_work> have you tried asking the uni to prioritise Arma?
00:13 <whatah> I've had bad experiences with my network admins, they are very uninformed and setup ridiculous precautions - for example, they have this new 'Client Validation' system which will register a mac address to a user ID
00:14 <luke-jr_work> well, nothing wrong with that
00:14 <whatah> they asked me to download and run some unverified code they had on my machine without telling me what it does and refusing to tell me
00:14 <luke-jr_work> ah, that's bad
00:14 <whatah> I know that windows users are used to that sort of thing, but I wasn't very appreciative.
00:14 <luke-jr_work> I'd flat out refuse
00:14 <luke-jr_work> you *are* paying their salaries, right? (indirectly)
00:14 <whatah> I did, they put my machine on the network without making me run it
00:15 <whatah> But the point is that they listen to vendors instead of listening to students. They will likely have nothing to do with me if I ask them to prioritize my game playing.
00:15 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7047 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3_alpha7045.macosx.dmg
00:15 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
00:16 <whatah> Ok, I will ask them tomorrow about it. Thanks for your time. Worst comes to worse, I will look into tunneling through another connection on the outside to get to my tron server.
00:16 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: why is r7045 on aabeta twice?
00:16 <luke-jr_work> whatah: unlikely to improve performance
00:17 <[dlh]> I don't know... the buildbot just went twice. ftw??
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00:17 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: BTW, good call with using rev instead of date in the Date/Tag field :p
00:19 <[dlh]> is anyone actually downloading those releases besides me?
00:19 <luke-jr_work> hm, dunno; lemme check
00:21 <luke-jr_work> <-- you?
00:21 <[dlh]> yes, me.
00:21 <luke-jr_work> - - [20/Jan/2007:18:15:18 +0000] "GET /0.3/6918/armagetronad-0.3_alpha6918.macosx.dmg HTTP/1.1" 403 394 "http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; it-it) AppleWebKit/418.9.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3" h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org
00:22 <luke-jr_work> - - [16/Jan/2007:19:00:35 +0000] "GET /0.3/6884/armagetronad-0.3_alpha6884.macosx.dmg HTTP/1.1" 200 8928774 "http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=Any&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Mac+OS+X&arch=PPC&bitness=&format=" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv: Gecko/20061204 Firefox/" h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org
00:22 <luke-jr_work> - - [16/Jan/2007:13:48:44 +0000] "GET /0.3/6884/armagetronad-0.3_alpha6884.macosx.dmg HTTP/1.0" 200 8928774 "http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3&hideold=0&hideold=1&os=Mac+OS+X&arch=&bitness=&format=" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; de-de) AppleWebKit/418.9.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3" h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org h.distfiles.aabeta.dashjr.org
00:22 <luke-jr_work> so yes
00:22 <luke-jr_work> quite a few it seems
00:22 <[dlh]> nice.
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7048 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: - Removed loading menu.rb — it is annoying
00:26 <armabot> armagetronad: - Removed some interface files from the “Copy Frameworks” that snuck into build phase
00:26 <[dlh]> ugh, mixed up some words there. don't drink and commit.
00:28 <luke-jr_work> hm
00:29 <luke-jr_work> 0.2.8 and 0.3 are using 50% of the entire distfiles site
00:30 <luke-jr_work> #later tell z-man* Please don't leave arma distfiles (download) directories o+w, like you did with 0.2.8/
00:30 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
00:31  * luke-jr_work ponders
00:32 <[dlh]> over what?
00:32 <luke-jr_work> [dlh]: would you object to me requiring distfiles to be named in a regexpable format? :p
00:33 <[dlh]> meh, give me an example.
00:36 <luke-jr_work> s,([^/]*)/([^/]*)/armagetron(ad)?-([^.]*)\.macosx\.dmg, array('file'=>'\0', 'branch'=>'\1', 'tag'=>'\2', 'os'=>'Mac OS X 10.3+', 'arch'=>'ppc_32', 'format'=>'.dmg', 'packager'=>'nemostultae', 'server'=>false),
00:36 <luke-jr_work> hmm, possibly problematic
00:37 <luke-jr_work> basically, extract info from filenames
00:37 <luke-jr_work> and then use a criteria to determine missing info
00:37 <luke-jr_work> eg, if it's Mac OS X, packager=nemo, except if ver 0.2.7*
00:37 <luke-jr_work> maybe a db would just work better :p
00:44 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r7049 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3_alpha7048.macosx.dmg
00:44 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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00:51 <luke-jr_work> where's armabuilder?
00:58 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: armabot is borken
00:58 <luke-jr_work> or CIA...
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01:20 <[dlh]> heh -> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=133571#133571
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01:32 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:39 <ghableska> -_-
01:40 <ghableska> #ping
01:56 <|Sticky|> ghab there is a fantastic invention that tells you the weather where you are...its called a window
01:56 <ghableska> it's dark outside
01:56 <|Sticky|> heh
01:56 <ghableska> #ping
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02:03 <DrJoeTron> theres alot of goons that live by me
02:04 <ghableska> o_O
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02:05 <DrJoeTron> theres like 7
02:05 <DrJoeTron> 2  that I know of that havent registered
02:09 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=12801
02:09 <ghableska> I see a good opportunity :P
02:10 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
02:11 <DrJoeTron> Ill think of something wehn I get back
02:11 <DrJoeTron> bbl
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02:37 <asdjklaslkj> bah
02:39 <asdjklaslkj> #ping
02:40 <spidey> ...
02:40 <spidey> asdjklaslkj: pong
02:41 <asdjklaslkj> #weather 50266
02:41 <spidey> asdjklaslkj: Error: you use this command to much, you are banned for 3 days
02:42 <asdjklaslkj> armabot knows the difference between to and too
02:42 <asdjklaslkj> liar
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02:43 <McSpiddles> aw
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02:44 <spidey> ...
02:44 <spidey> yes, it's registered
02:44 <spidey> [spidey] (n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles) : spidey
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04:38 <ghableska> #ping
04:58 <DrJoeTron> #porng
04:58 <ghableska> armabot left us :(
04:58 <ghableska> FOREVER!!!111
04:59 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: "joe is my hoe i shall rape him sideways 0-O"
05:00 <DrJoeTron> buh?
05:00 <ghableska> uhb?
05:01 <ghableska> #night
05:01 <ghableska> Good night ghableska!
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05:54 <Lucifer_arma> anybody happen to have hypphy's IP address?
05:54 <DrJoeTron> no :(
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, if you should find yourself in possession of it, could you stick it in the admin only forum?  :)
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, maybe it's there
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> nah, there's nothing recent in there, unless the dipshit that tried to get my password was hypphy (he was probably ady-lucifer, forgetting his username)
06:00 <DrJoeTron> sure thing, chief
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey, I know who has it
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> guru3: hey, can you post hypphy's IP address for us?
06:05 <DrJoeTron> I think we should mod the boards :d
06:05 <DrJoeTron> I think it would be fun :)
06:06 -!- P4 [i=p4z@edl176.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #armagetron
06:06 <P4> hello ;)
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06:07 <DrJoeTron> bye ;)
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know.  We seem to be doing pretty good without having mod permission :)
06:14 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:14 <DrJoeTron> yeah true
06:14 <DrJoeTron> like closing threads due to insanity :D
06:16 <DrJoeTron> I feel like I need to take pride in the tank quote "All it needs now is Joe to start drawing shit..."
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:21 <GodTodd>  If there's one thing I've learned over the years it is to beware of anyone claiming to be the messiah, and be especially wary if his only source of proof is a book he wrote.
06:21 <GodTodd> bahahaha
07:03 <DrJoeTron> god damn
07:03 <DrJoeTron> I wanna go to coachella so bad :/
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe, you send that computer yet?  :)
07:04 <DrJoeTron> nope :(
07:04 <DrJoeTron> my dad is the nazi of the packing crap we have
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, just tie it to a pigeon
07:04 <DrJoeTron> its going to need 4
07:04 <DrJoeTron> pigeons
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I inventoried my hardware finally
07:05 <DrJoeTron> oh yeah
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I have 1 questionable motherboard and 1 questionable hard drive
07:05 <DrJoeTron> ?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> questionable because the motherboard might have just had bad ram in it, and the hard drive was with the motherboard
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07:05 <Lucifer_arma> I declared the hard drive bad when I tored down the computer, but recent tests have led me in another direction.  But I lack known good memory that is'nt in a computer to test the motherboard with :/
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> I declared one motherboard bad, but was able to use the CMOS battery on it to get the box swampy sent me a long time ago running
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> that's the (currently broken) windows buildslave (and the machine my wife's using for her class now)
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> so I have left 1 known good case and power supply
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> and if I had known good memory, I could put to rest the question about the motherboard and hard drive
07:07 <DrJoeTron> you will need memory for this machine
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I might have good memory, I just don't have known good memory :)
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> and I don't have equipment to find out anymore because I put everything I had into service
07:08 <DrJoeTron> well you will soon :v
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> that other motherboard I have is probably bad, though
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't even give me a bios prompt without memory
07:09 <DrJoeTron> http://www.coachella.com/ I need to go to this!!!
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07:19 <wrtlprnft> #ping
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07:26 <wrtlprnft> #ping
07:26 <armabot> pong
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08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r7052 /private/Lucifer/sconsbranch/ (SConstruct src/SConscript): (log message trimmed)
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Started the sdist_tar target. It currently has several problems. First, it
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: builds from the src directory, which means it doesn't understand dependencies
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: for files like vParser.cpp and others that have to be generated for the dist.
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Second, it doesn't build it's own subdirectory. I think these problems can be
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: fixed and should be, in the build. We need to go ahead and either duplicate
08:13 <armabot> armagetronad: sources, or copy the sources manually. That's how autotools does it anyway for
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> 10 words trimmed, why couldn't it be smart enough to go ahead and include them?
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08:14  * Lucifer_arma knows, it's the cia bot that did it, not armabot
08:22 <DrJoeTron> haha
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08:46 <spidey> anyone know pascal?
08:46 <spidey> lol
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12:47 <armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r7053 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/config/master.srv: added another master server in attempts to reduce the odds of finding one is down so we get fewer irritable people like hyphyleo
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13:44 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/bigD/classic/n-1.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by bigD
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16:05 <epsy> hi
16:06 <spidey> hi
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16:42 <k3nNy_> #weather innsbruck
16:42 <armabot> k3nNy_: The current temperature in Innsbruck, Austria is 35.6°F (4:20 PM CET on January 23, 2007). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa. 
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16:46 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/bigD/symmetrical/symmetry-1.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by bigD
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16:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/bigD/classic/bigsquare-1.0.7.aamap.xml: Resource by bigD
16:55 <epsy> wrtlprnft, i got a problem with your 'krename' thing...
16:56 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/2007-01-23-165656.png
16:56 <epsy> :/
16:57 <epsy> aww
16:57 <epsy> sry just saw it
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17:34 <wrtlprnft> epsy: sorry, was away
17:36 <wrtlprnft> and it's not “my” krename :P
17:39 <epsy> setting SDL video mode (640x480x32, windowed)
17:39 <epsy> SDL suggests 16 bits/pixel
17:39 <epsy> ERROR: Error: Could not set 640x480x16 opengl video mode
17:39 <epsy> lol
17:39 <epsy> i'm still not k with it...
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19:19 <k3nNy_> #weather innsbruck
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19:33 <DrJoeTron> spidey_ ping
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19:51 <k3nNy_> #weather innsbruck
19:56 <DrJoeTron> ewww
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20:06 <luke-jr_work> #ping
20:06 <armabot> pong
20:06 <luke-jr_work> yay, that worked
20:07 <luke-jr_work> #weather innsbruck
20:07 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The current temperature in Innsbruck, Austria is 33.8°F (7:50 PM CET on January 23, 2007). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa. 
20:07 <luke-jr_work> k3nNy_: there
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20:20 <k3nNy_> thx :)
20:25 <luke-jr_work> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=133981#133981
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20:36 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r7054 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: clean up nemo/[dlh]s mess for him
20:36 <armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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21:03 <spidey_> DrJoeTron, wtf
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23:20 <spidey> http://www.terrorfeed.com/index.php?id=BROKEN-Horror-TRAILER-1
23:20 <spidey> o.O
23:20 <spidey> i gotta get that :D
23:21 <ghableska> ?
23:28 <spidey> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/22/212233&from=rss
23:28 <spidey> wow..
23:28 <ghableska> :o
23:32 <luke-jr_work> wtf
23:32 <spidey> http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_7043.html
23:33 <spidey> looks like there's gonna be about 3 new zombie movies released this year :D:D
23:33 <luke-jr_work> #g 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 8
23:33 <armabot> luke-jr_work: 1,024 * 1,024 * 1,024 * 8 = 8,589,934,592
23:33 <luke-jr_work> #g 8000000000/1024/1024/1024
23:33 <armabot> luke-jr_work: ((8,000,000,000 / 1,024) / 1,024) / 1,024 = 7.4505806
23:33 <luke-jr_work> they lie
23:33 <luke-jr_work> they only did 7.45 GHz
23:34 <spidey> so?
23:34 <spidey> 3.3ghz is the fastest p4 right?
23:35 <spidey> that's still a 4ghz+ overclock
23:35 <ghableska> spidey: I think there's a 3.8 one
23:35 <spidey> hm
23:35 <spidey> newegg and tiger only sell 3.3's ;/
23:46 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 29.8°F (4:42 PM CST on January 23, 2007). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.04 in 983.3 hPa. 
23:48 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you realize how slow P4s are?
23:49 <luke-jr_work> spidey: a 2 GHz P4 is slower than a 800 MHz P3
23:49 <ghableska> ...
23:51 <Vanhayes> does anyone know wtf lwlwlwl means?
23:51 <ghableska> lwl = lawl = lol?
23:52 <Vanhayes> ew
23:52 <ghableska> heh
23:52 <ghableska> I'm not sure if that's right
23:52 <ghableska> I was just guessing
23:52 <Vanhayes> probly right tho
23:52 <ghableska> who was saying it?
23:53 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=12781&view=newest&sid=1c14af415f2b8a2386003393214d9030
23:53 <ghableska> ugh
23:53 <ghableska> I wouldn't expect anything else from him
23:53 <Vanhayes> the guy who took pimps place for the worst tronned ive seen
23:53 <Vanhayes> tronner*
23:53 <ghableska> pimp never said anything
23:54 <ghableska> *never said much
23:54 <Vanhayes> he just stole your name then got you kicked
23:54 <ghableska> oh, heh, I remember that
23:54 <ghableska> he pretended to be 2020 for a while too
23:54 <ghableska> #lastseen Hyphy
23:55 <armabot> ghableska: Hyphy Leopard has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 1 days 21 hours 14 minutes ago.
23:55 <Vanhayes> ya, screwed up one of the spoon matches by saying he was 2020 and changing the time
23:55 <ghableska> yeah
23:55 <ghableska> good times :)
23:55 <Vanhayes> heh
23:56 <Vanhayes> hmm that was almost a year ago 0_o
23:56  * ghableska wonders how long it'll be before he really is banned from somewhere

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