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Log from 2007-01-03:
--- Day changed Wed Jan 03 2007
00:02 <madmax|pt> was that random?
00:02 <Vanhayes> ha
00:02 <ghableska> what?
00:02 <madmax|pt> Reykjavik
00:02 <ghableska> no
00:02 <ghableska> surprisingly warm there also
00:03 <Vanhayes> #weather Ghaytsasd
00:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Ghaytsasd".
00:03 <Vanhayes> that was random
00:03 <ghableska> heh
00:03 <madmax|pt> #weather kook
00:03 <Vanhayes> ya global warming is destroying the winter
00:03 <@armabot> madmax|pt: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "kook".
00:03 <ghableska> #weather sex
00:03 <@armabot> ghableska: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "sex".
00:05 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
00:05 <@armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 50.0°F (11:00 PM WET on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa. 
00:05 <Vanhayes> #weather havana
00:05 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 81°F / 27°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 4:53 PM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 ° (1 more message)
00:05 <Vanhayes> hot
00:06 <ghableska> #weather Death Valley
00:06 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Mercury, Nevada is 57.2°F (2:53 PM PST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa. 
00:06 <ghableska> o0
00:07 <madmax|pt> #weather Hill Valley
00:07 <@armabot> madmax|pt: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Hill Valley".
00:08 <madmax|pt> ... back to the future.
00:10 <arctanx> lol
00:10 <arctanx> ONE POINT TT
00:10 <arctanx> TWENTY ONE JIGGAWATTS?!
00:11 <ghableska> x_X
00:11 <luke-jr|work> it's spelled "GIGAWATTS"
00:11 <luke-jr|work> foo
00:12 <guru3> actually i know a guy
00:12 <guru3> who says jigga instead of giga
00:12 <guru3> cracks me up
00:12 <luke-jr|work> is it funny when people pronounce things right?
00:13 <ghableska> ...
00:13 <ghableska> I don't want to have a jiggahertz processor
00:14 <luke-jr|work> so spell it correctly
00:14 <ghableska> 0o
00:14 <luke-jr|work> #dict giga-
00:14 <@armabot> luke-jr|work: jargon and foldoc responded: foldoc: giga- {prefix}; jargon: giga- /ji'ga/ or /gi'ga/ pref. [SI] See {{quantifiers}}
00:14 <ghableska> I was spelling it phonetically
00:14 <ghableska> :P
00:14 <luke-jr|work> hm, they added the mispronounciation :p
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00:15 <luke-jr|work> ...
00:15 <luke-jr|work> #roulette
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00:15  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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00:15 <luke-jr|work> oops
00:16 <luke-jr|work> I should go home :p
00:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
00:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> little question
00:20 <[Xpert]DarkStar> can i break a bass amp with a guitar?
00:24 <luke-jr|work> wt
00:24 <luke-jr|work> wtf
00:24 <[Xpert]DarkStar> now what does that mean?
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00:29 <luke-jr|work> wtf
00:34 <spidey> ftw
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00:54 <spidey> wow
00:54 <spidey> my isps caps are very unstable
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01:06 <ghableska> #weather 50266
01:06 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 35.8°F (6:02 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa (Falling). 
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #dict parasite
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: parasite n 1: an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); the parasite obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host [ant: {host}] 2: a follower who hangs around a host (without benefit to the host) in hope of gain or advantage [syn: {leech}, {sponge}, {sponger}]; gcide: Parasite \Par"a*site\ (7 more messages)
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: (p[a^]r"[.a]*s[imac]t), n. [F., fr. L. parasitus, Gr. para`sitos, lit., eating beside, or at the table of, another; para` beside + sitei^n to feed, from sitos wheat, grain, food.] [1913 Webster] 1. One who frequents the tables of the rich, or who lives at another's expense, and earns his welcome by flattery; a hanger-on; a toady; a sycophant. [1913 Webster] Thou, with trembling fear, Or like a fawning (6 more messages)
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: parasite, obey'st. --Milton. [1913 Webster] Parasites were called such smell-feasts as would seek to be free guests at rich men's tables. --Udall. [1913 Webster] 2. (Bot.) (a) A plant obtaining nourishment immediately from other plants to which it attaches itself, and whose juices it absorbs; -- sometimes, but erroneously, called epiphyte. (b) A plant living on or within an animal, and supported at its (5 more messages)
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: expense, as many species of fungi of the genus {Torrubia}. [1913 Webster] 3. (Zool.) (a) An animal which lives during the whole or part of its existence on or in the body of some other animal, feeding upon its food, blood, or tissues, as lice, tapeworms, etc. (b) An animal which steals the food of another, as the parasitic jager. (c) An animal which habitually uses the nest of another, as the cowbird and (4 more messages)
01:11 <ghableska> 0o
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: the European cuckoo. [1913 Webster] Parasitic; moby-thes: 149 Moby Thesaurus words for "parasite": adherent, algae, appendage, attendance, attendant, autophyte, barnacle, bean, beat, bedbug, beggar, bloodsucker, body of retainers, bracken, brown algae, buff, bummer, cadger, cat flea, cavaliere servente, chigoe, climber, cockroach, cohort, conferva, confervoid, cortege, coupon clippers, court, courtier, (3 more messages)
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> looking for the synonyms :)
01:12 <ghableska> ah
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: crab, creeper, dangler, deadbeat, dependent, diatom, disciple, dog flea, drone, entourage, fan, fern, flea, flunky, follower, following, freeloader, fruits and vegetables, fucus, fungus, grapevine, grayback, green algae, gulfweed, hanger-on, henchman, herb, heterophyte, homme de cour, hyena, idle rich, idler, ivy, jackal, jigger, kelp, laze, leech, legume, leisure class, lentil, liana, lichen, liverwort, (2 more messages)
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: lounge lizard, louse, lumpen proletariat, mendicant, mite, mold, moocher, mosquito, moss, mushroom, nit, nonworker, panhandler, parasitic plant, parasitize, partisan, pea, perthophyte, phytoplankton, planktonic algae, plant families, public, puffball, pulse, pursuer, pursuivant, red algae, red bug, rentiers, retinue, roach, rockweed, rout, rust, sand flea, saprophyte, sargasso, sargassum, satellite, (1 more message)
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #more
01:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: scrounge, scrounger, sea lentil, sea moss, sea wrack, seaweed, sectary, shadow, smell-feast, smut, spiv, sponge, sponger, stooge, successor, succulent, sucker, suite, supporter, tagtail, tail, the unemployable, the unemployed, tick, toadstool, train, trainbearer, vermin, vetch, vine, votary, ward heeler, weevil, wood tick, wort, wrack
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
01:12 <arctanx> how the heck are they synonyms
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> the word I'm looking for isn't in there
01:13 <arctanx> train?
01:13 <ghableska> in what context?
01:13 <mkzelda> gmake[4]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0_pre20070101/work/mozilla/modules/libpr0n/build'
01:13 <mkzelda> libpr0n ?
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> I watned symbiotic, then found out that symbiosis is just a blanket word.  didn't know that
01:18 <arctanx> symbiotic is a word, but doesn't mean parasitic :P
01:19 <arctanx> it means two things coexisting for mutual benefit
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01:20 <Sticky> #lastseen Rico
01:20 <@armabot> Sticky: ¦×¥Rico has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 minutes ago.
01:22 <Sticky> #lastseen Rico
01:22 <@armabot> Sticky: ¦×¥Rico has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 minutes ago.
01:22 <ghableska> o.0
01:22 <Sticky> he's just disapeared
01:22 <ghableska> heh
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01:36 <spidey> #g 1.5 liters in gallons
01:36 <@armabot> spidey: 1.5 liters = 0.396258077 US gallons
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> actually, mutualism is what's commonly called symbiotic, and is a peer to parasitism, both of which are included under the umbrella of symbiotic
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> there's some other words that are even less common that fall under the same umbrella :)
01:53 <spidey> wow
01:54 <spidey> i just downloaded a 1hour and 44 minute instrumental
01:54 <spidey> :|
01:56 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/fortress/speed_dome_nano-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
01:56 <ghableska> spidey: of what?
01:58 <spidey> fuck if i know
01:58 <spidey> i was trying to download the movie "thank you for smoking"
02:26 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:26 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 34.5°F (7:23 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa. 
02:46 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing this evening. Wind northwest 40 km/h gusting to 60 becoming west 30 overnight. Low minus 8.; Wednesday - Sunny. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon. (1 more message)
02:48 <Vanhayes> #more
02:48 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Wind west 30 km/h becoming southwest 30 in the morning. High plus 4. Wednesday night..cloudy. Clearing near midnight. Wind southwest 30 km/h becoming west 20 in the evening. Low plus 1.; Thursday - A mix of sun and cloud. High plus 5.;
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03:28 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:28 <@armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 39.6°F (8:28 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa. 
03:28 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:28 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 35.1°F (8:28 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.11 in 985.7 hPa. 
03:28 <GodTodd> freakin' cold :/
03:28 <ghableska> it's too warm
03:30 <GodTodd> iowans are fucking strange
03:30 <GodTodd> :)
03:31 <ghableska> we are
03:31 <ghableska> but...
03:31 <ghableska> Texans are stranger.
03:31  * GodTodd isn't native texan so :P
03:31  * ghableska isn't a native Iowa
03:31 <ghableska> n
03:32 <GodTodd> where you from originally?
03:32 <ghableska> NYC
03:32 <GodTodd> and you *chose* to move to iowa?
03:32 <ghableska> heh
03:32 <GodTodd> oh...that's why....New Yorkers are the strangest
03:32 <ghableska> well, with a few stops on the way ;)
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03:33 <ghableska> hi
03:36 <GodTodd> #translate german to english ich bin ein faultier.
03:36 <@armabot> GodTodd: I am a putrid animal.
03:36 <GodTodd> :D
03:36 <ghableska> #translate english to german I am a putrid animal
03:36 <@armabot> ghableska: Ich bin ein fauliges Tier
03:36 <ghableska> O_o
03:36 <GodTodd> #translate german to english ich bin ein Faultier.
03:36 <@armabot> GodTodd: I am a putrid animal.
03:36 <GodTodd> yeah...it's wrong
03:37 <ghableska> #translate german to english ich bin ein Faultier
03:37 <@armabot> ghableska: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
03:37 <ghableska> huh?
03:37 <GodTodd> heh
03:37 <GodTodd> #translate german to english ich bin ein Faultier
03:37 <@armabot> GodTodd: I am a putrid animal
03:38 <GodTodd> #translate german to english fauliges
03:38 <@armabot> GodTodd: fauliges
03:38 <ghableska> lol
03:38 <GodTodd> that's lame
03:38 <GodTodd> #translate german to english faul
03:38 <@armabot> GodTodd: Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
03:38 <GodTodd> translate will never replace good ole guessing ;)
03:39 <GodTodd> the way i learned it...a Faultier is a sloth
03:39 <ghableska> you speak german?
03:39 <GodTodd> ein bischen...
03:39 <GodTodd> been a while
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03:46 <GodTodd> hi durka
03:46 <GodTodd> bye durka
03:46 <GodTodd> hi durka
03:46 <GodTodd> bye durka
03:47 <ghableska> :)
03:49 <GodTodd> #weather 50266
03:49 <@armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 35.1°F (8:47 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa. 
03:50 <GodTodd> #weather 68104
03:50 <@armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Omaha, Nebraska is 33.8°F (7:52 PM CST on January 02, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa. 
03:50 <ghableska> ugh, Nebraska
03:50 <GodTodd> it's just iowa but to the west a bit and with no casinos
03:51 <GodTodd> :P
03:51 <ghableska> ha ha ha
03:52 <GodTodd> oh...and with better football ;)
03:52 <ghableska> psh
03:53 <GodTodd> psh yourself, iowa boy :P
03:54 <ghableska> heh
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03:56 <GodTodd> ewww, sticky
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> taking a shit?
04:22  * arctanx has a bizarre gift of switching to channels at bad times
04:22 <ghableska> heh
04:23 <ghableska> no, it's like that all the time here :)
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04:24 <GodTodd>  [GodTodd] ewww, sticky
04:24 <GodTodd> you damn gross ass people
04:24 <GodTodd> :P
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> you saying my ass is gross?
04:25 <GodTodd> very much so
04:26 <ghableska> How dare you!
04:26  * ghableska is a Turdist
04:27 <GodTodd> -ist?
04:27 <GodTodd> :)
04:27 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma converted me
04:27 <ghableska> he came to my doorstep and preached
04:27 <GodTodd> preaching for a turdist is shitting, isn't it?
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> we're going to build the Cathedral of the Dump!
04:28 <ghableska> heh
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, it is shitty work
04:28  * GodTodd is going to have to conduct a late night mass in a few minutes 
04:28 <GodTodd> heh
04:36 <GodTodd> Yea! though I walk through the aisle of the toilets of the Home Depot
04:36 <GodTodd> I shall fear no diarrhea
04:37 <GodTodd> For I have Immodium
04:37 <ghableska> Pray to the porcelain god.
04:37 <GodTodd> And it shall solidify my feces
04:37 <GodTodd> And make it whole again.
04:38 <GodTodd> Nor shall I fear any toilet paper
04:38 <GodTodd> For I know how to choose the softest
04:38 <ghableska> are you done preaching?
04:38 <GodTodd> And gentlest
04:38 <GodTodd> And most absorbent
04:38 <GodTodd> With which to wipe my ass.
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> we start with the statement "If you're the top turd on the pile, you're still a turd" and go from there
04:39 <ghableska> haha
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> more seriously, GodTodd (hi there!) , I just published my research paper.  Did you get a chance to read the other one, the one that actually needs an editor?  :)
04:39 <GodTodd> And should some get on my hands
04:39 <GodTodd> haven't gotten notification of it yet
04:39 <GodTodd> I shall wash them
04:39 <GodTodd> And should it get on the floor
04:40 <GodTodd> I shall scrub it
04:40 <GodTodd> And should it splash up to under the rim thingy
04:40 <GodTodd> I shall leave it
04:40 <GodTodd> Until tomorrow
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it's there.  It occurs to me that email notification on the server might be broke right now.
04:41 <ghableska> #night
04:41 <@armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:41 <spidey> #g 1 kb/s in GB/month
04:41 <@armabot> spidey: 1 (kb / s) = 0.313489894 GB / month
04:42 <spidey> #g 1 kb/s in MB/month
04:42 <@armabot> spidey: 1 (kb / s) = 321.013651 MB / month
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1kb in bytes
04:42 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1 kilobit = 128 bytes
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> really?
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh, right.  nvm
04:43  * Lucifer_arma thinks ISPs market with kb/s because it gives them bigger numbers than KB/s
04:43 <spidey> ...
04:43 <spidey> what's the difference between kb/s and KB/s???
04:43 <spidey> #g 1 kb/s in KB/s
04:43 <@armabot> spidey: 1 (kb / s) = 0.125 KB / s
04:44 <spidey> yup, bigger
04:44 <spidey> :p
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> but, see, that's dialup rates :)
04:44 <spidey> no
04:44 <spidey> even dialup gets atleast 3kb/s
04:44 <spidey> i got 5 when i had it
04:44 <spidey> sometimes 6 if i was lucky
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, technically, you're supposed to get 56kb/s
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> I never got more than 48 when I had it, though.  Bad house wires
04:45 <spidey> #g 56kb/s in KB/s
04:45 <@armabot> spidey: 56 (kb / s) = 7 KB / s
04:45 <spidey> hm
04:46 <spidey> didn't you love it when you had to upload something
04:46 <spidey> :/
04:47 <arctanx> yep
04:47 <arctanx> especially since it's only 33.6 up
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
04:47 <arctanx> and a byte is 8 bits, remember
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/node/118  <--- what does that look like on your screen?
04:47 <arctanx> black on dark grey?
04:48 <arctanx> oops it was loading a huge picture
04:48 <spidey> um
04:48 <arctanx> in that case, it looks like a history essay
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> I figured out what the problem was.  A page-widening post that regular visitors can't see.  :)
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> it was spam, and I let it sit there.  Clearing it out now, not that it matters, because of spam all comments go to moderation anyway
04:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, buy me a jet
04:49 <spidey> :>
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: suck a cucumber from my anus first
04:49 <spidey> how big will the jet be...
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> I will buy you a jet equal in weight the the sum of the weights of the cucumbers you suck from my anus
04:50 <spidey> no thanks then
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> I expect to pay for it by posting subscription-only videos of you sucking the cucumbers from my anus
04:51 <spidey> LOL
04:51 <spidey> how about this
04:51 <spidey> i force luke-jr|work to do it, and you buy me the jet
04:52 <arctanx> woot got gentoo on and behaving
04:52 <arctanx> (15 hours later)
04:52 <arctanx> now I just need X.
04:52 <spidey> x is evil!
04:52 <spidey> it eats away your spinal cord, and kills you!
04:54 <spidey> btw
04:54 <spidey> wtf does irssi log to??
04:56 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: sorry...was reading the latest post...and yeah i think the email notification is broken :)
04:56 <spidey> #q
04:56 <@armabot> spidey: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
04:56 <spidey> #q
04:56 <@armabot> spidey: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
04:56 <arctanx> spidey: ~/irclogs by the default
04:57 <arctanx> if you have /set autolog on
04:57 <spidey> argh
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04:58 <spidey> spidey@debian:~$ screen -r irssi
04:58 <spidey> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.
04:58 <spidey> the hell?
04:59 <arctanx> don't you just type screen -r on its own?
04:59 <arctanx> unless you specify a full socket thing from "screen -l"
04:59 <spidey> spidey@debian:~$ screen -r
04:59 <spidey> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.
04:59 <spidey> ;p
04:59 <arctanx> mmk
04:59 <arctanx> screen -D -RR? :P
05:00 <spidey> same
05:00 <arctanx> well then, you're buggered
05:00 <GodTodd> screen -RDRR
05:00 <spidey> ...
05:00 <arctanx> hoho
05:00 <GodTodd> :)
05:00 <arctanx> That was a joke in the simpsons wasn't it
05:00 <GodTodd> yep
05:00 <arctanx> unfortunately I didn't know calculus when I saw that episode
05:00 <GodTodd> they applied it to math tho
05:00 <arctanx> I only found it in wikipedia later
05:00 <GodTodd> haha
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> er, what's the joke?
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05:05 <arctanx> I can't quite remember
05:06 <arctanx> Something like if you integrate 2RDR
05:07 <arctanx> you find something funny
05:07 <arctanx> except you need an extra dr from somewhere
05:07 <arctanx> oh well
05:09 <GodTodd> Teacher:  So y = r cubed over 3. And if you determine the rate of change in this curve correctly, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
05:09 <GodTodd> [The class laughs except for Bart who appears confused.]
05:09 <GodTodd> Teacher:  Don't you get it, Bart? Derivative dy = 3 r squared dr over 3, or r squared dr, or r dr r.
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> holy fuck.  My Rusty the Illiterate article has 12474 reads
05:10 <GodTodd> yeah
05:10 <GodTodd> i know
05:10 <GodTodd> heh
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> ah.  actually, I've seen that joke on a posting of dumb math jokes.  :)
05:11 <GodTodd> :)
05:12  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that every calculus textbook has you integrate x^2 anyway
05:12 <GodTodd> heh
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05:19 <epsy> hi
05:19 <epsy> #hello
05:19 <@armabot> Hello epsy :) Random Fortune: An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future.
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I need to fix the mailer on the website now.  I just cleaned up 7 pages worth of comment approval queue and I *know* I didn't get notifications for all of them
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: you're "Who's to blame" article got a comment I found in the approval queue
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> thought I'd mention that for ya
05:42 <GodTodd> it did, huh?
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  someone saying you're judgemental :)
05:46 <GodTodd> cool :)
05:47 <GodTodd> i know the first two installments of nowhere to hide each have a '5' vote
05:47 <GodTodd> heh
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I didn't see that.  I made some votes early on testing the system, so I suspect some of the articles, but that was before you started nowhere to hide
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> so those votes are either you plugging yourself (heh) or real readers that like them :)
05:49 <GodTodd> i don't remember doing it myself
05:49 <GodTodd> so mayhaps someone likes them :)
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> you'd probably remember doing it yourself.  That's cool, then.  Feels nice when people vote your articles up.  :)
05:50 <GodTodd> truly
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> the other thing is I tried to vote 2s/3s when I was testing the system
05:50 <GodTodd> btw...since you probably didn't get emailed....i submitted part 3
05:50 <GodTodd> the headings still suck tho :/
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, is that the one I already read, or is it a new one?  Remember I read one and suggested you hold it back for awhile?
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05:51 <Durka> #hello
05:51 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: "In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, || men were real men, women were real women, and small furry || creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry || creatures from Alpha Centauri. "
05:51 <Durka> #ping
05:51 <@armabot> pong
05:51 <Durka> #roulette
05:51 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
05:51  * Durka :p
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I read that one already
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> I just love how durka has to come in here and immediately fill the window with crap
05:52 <Durka> #crap
05:52  * Lucifer_arma wants Durka to consider himself warned
05:53 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: it's the same one
05:53 <Durka> lol
05:53 <Durka> armabot brittens my day
05:53 <Durka> brightens ***
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> then register here and /msg armabot until your heart's content
05:53 <Durka> wow terrible spelling error
05:53 <Durka> how do i register HERE?
05:53 <Durka> im registered on irc network
05:53 <GodTodd> heh....someone actually commented on my article on xmas day....and an AS parent no less :)
05:53 <GodTodd> cool
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> then you should probably just /msg armabot.  Are you identified with NickServ?
05:54 <Durka> ya
05:54  * Durka is /msg ing armabot right now
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> what confused me about the comment is it seemed like it was in response to what I just wrote, which isn't published yet
05:54  * Durka 's heart is content X)
05:54 <GodTodd> hrmmm
05:55 <GodTodd> that middle part? the rome thing?
05:57 <GodTodd> err nvm
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> damn pre threw the whole page wide :/
05:59 <GodTodd> heh
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> fixed it, but not happy with my fix.  Maybe we should make bbcode the default input format?  I could write articles in bbcode, wikitext is just a convenience that's kind of outdated now
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, that is, only if bbcode supports headings
06:03 <GodTodd> yeah
06:05  * epsy has a little question about jabber to irc transports...
06:05 <epsy> does someone use one?
06:06  * Durka no
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06:12 <epsy> how many arma servers can a virtual-dedicated server that has 128mo of RAM, runs debian 3.1, has 256kb/sec of broadband, and 8.7GB of hard disk space?
06:12 <epsy> *how many can it runs?
06:13 <epsy> because i'm going to buy that offer
06:13 <epsy> but i need to know if all of my servers will run on it
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06:15 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: beats the fuck outta me
06:15 <epsy> ?
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, too many variables.  :)
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> in my observations, a single arma server requires about 5MB RAM, and hard disk space usage is determined primarily by how often you clear you logs
06:17 <epsy> k
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> so a good rotation plan works.  The stat files generally increase in size up to a certain number of users, then don't increase terribly quickly
06:17 <epsy> and bandwidth?
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> and you could write up a script to cull users that are low on the stat files
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> is the number you gave upstream or downstream?  or both?
06:18 <epsy> they just say
06:18 <epsy> '256 kb/s of bandwitdh
06:18 <epsy> so i dont know
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> for bandwidth, this wiki page has the most/best information on it:
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Advanced_Server_Administration_Guide#Dealing_with_Lag
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> and for cpu usage, pay special attention to the simulation framerate
06:19 <epsy> aww k
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> assuming bandwidth is aplenty, then cpu usage is going to be the limiting factor for you
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> also, what's the kernel version?  In this case, you really need a 2.6-series kernel, and I don't know when debian stable finally went to 2.6
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> for all I know, it hasn't.  :/
06:19 <epsy> and what about if i add a maze-maps generator? ;)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> so, if no 2.6 kernel, you could have a problem.  :)
06:20 <epsy> what it did used ?
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> then you're going to want to pay special attention to how the generator spikes the cpu
06:20 <epsy> yeah it's 2.6.15
06:20 <epsy> :/
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> probably the best way to do it, afaict, is to determine when your servers are empty, then set a cronjob for that time to shut off the servers and generate the day's maps
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> that way the generator never runs while the servers are running, and never spikes the cpu for the players
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> that only works until your servers are so popular, they're always filled
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> an alternative is to have a process that just makes sure there's like 5 maps generated, runs at a high niceness (like 15), and replenishes the queue when it starts to drop
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> the world's largest retailer has committed to get compact fluorescent lightbulbs into 100 million homes this year. CFLs are found in only 6% of households today.
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> wow.  My household is one of those 6%, at least
06:26 <GodTodd> heh
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06:27 <epsy> hm it's not a map-of-the-day server :/
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06:27 <Lucifer_arma> maybe you misread what I said
06:27 <epsy> good idea the niceness of 15
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> "day's maps" is plural.  I meant "all of the maps for the day", be it 10 or 100000000
06:28 <epsy> well, there is 3 rounds of 20 where there wil be a maze
06:28 <epsy> *will
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> you can say good idea the niceness of 15, but in my experience it didn't work out so well.  :/
06:29 <epsy> :/
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> of course, my maze generator was the first generator around here, and therefore the most inefficient, running on a pretty dated cpu
06:30 <epsy> i just got an idea
06:30 <epsy> when i swtch the computer on
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> is it a good idea?
06:30 <epsy> i launch a script that generates maps for it and send them via ftp
06:30 <epsy> well, it's hacky but...
06:31 <epsy> :)
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> what if you don't switch the computer on for 3 days?
06:31 <epsy> then i make that the map-rotation script turns into the actual mazes
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft solved the cpu spiking problem by having a different computer generate the maps and serve up his server's maps
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> then the server downloaded the maps at the same time as the clients
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> umm, actually, he was trying to solve a bandwidth problem
06:32 <epsy> in my case, the resource repo is localhost
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> the problem being that all the clients would hit his webserver at the same time, which would cause most of them to drop when the server started the round but nobody had finished downloading yet
06:33 <epsy> so, no problem of bandwidth with
06:33 <epsy> ...
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, the "have another machine generate the maps" also solves the cpu spiking problem
06:33 <epsy> if i increase the round extra time?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> it also depends on how intense your generator is.  Mine is very intense
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> that was added in part to help with these problems.  :)
06:34 <epsy> there is only yours or...?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> you already have a generator, right?
06:34 <epsy> no
06:34 <epsy> will do that today
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> what were you planning to use?
06:35 <epsy> yours
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> mine specifically?  or wrtlprnft's?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> mazer.py?
06:35 <epsy> well, i didn't know wrtlprnft had one
06:36 <epsy> i only saw yours on the wiki
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, mine's the only one that generates an actual maze, like the mazes you solve in those kid's books
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> wrtl's generates a cool obstacle course
06:36 <epsy> like on...
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft's maze server?  he might have renamed it, but afaik he's still running it
06:36 <epsy> #serverinfo to winzone
06:37 <@armabot> epsy: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “to winzone” at the moment, sorry.
06:37 <epsy> ..
06:38 <epsy> well, something with only 4 axes will be good enough for me
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't see his being listed
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> his wasn't the race to winzone, that was iF's iirc, and he refused to release the source to the generator he wrote
06:39 <epsy> hm
06:39 <epsy> he's afk actually
06:39 <epsy> who owns the wild west servers?
06:40 <epsy> #serverinfo th CTF
06:40 <@armabot> epsy: Wild West  =Labyrinth CTF=  (Experimental): No online players.
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know who owns those.  I thought I did, but I was wrong.
06:40 <epsy> it's the kind of mazes there i need
06:41 <epsy> lol
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> that's the kind of maze mazer.py generates
06:41 <epsy> and...
06:41 <epsy> where i get it?
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> not compeltely, there's some differences I see now
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> I'd suggest you track down the WW person, to be honest.  If you want to fool with mine, it's in my private svn area
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> let's see if I remember the path :)
06:42 <epsy> k
06:42 <epsy> yeah i see where it iq
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> https://svn.sourceforge.net/armagetronad/private/Lucifer
06:42 <epsy> *is
06:42 <epsy> k
06:44 <epsy> gtg
06:44 <epsy> cya
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06:47 <Lucifer_arma> someone come play ctf with me
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06:54 <Durka> #hello
06:54 <Durka> i will luci
06:54 <Durka> :p
06:54 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Chaos is King and Magic is loose in the world.
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> er, game just locked up :(
06:58 <Durka> whered ya go
06:58 <Durka> o :(
06:59 <mkzelda> anybody play regular fort anymore?
07:08 <DrJoeTr0n> nah
07:08 <DrJoeTr0n> fortress for squares, yo
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07:09 <mkzelda> heh
07:14 <Durka> #lastseen psyko
07:14 <@armabot> Durka: ~*SP*~PsYkO has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 0 days 1 hours 36 minutes ago.
07:33 <Durka> #lastseen achtung
07:33 <@armabot> Durka: achtung has last been seen on ¦Ö¦Server: Fortress 0 days 12 hours 31 minutes ago.
07:33 <Durka> #night
07:33 <@armabot> Good night Durka!
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07:38 <spidey> wow
07:38 <spidey> luke-jr, teamspeak doesn't use alot of bw like you said...with 4 people it only used 9kb/s average
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07:41 <spidey_> ok
07:41 <spidey_> sucks
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07:42 <Arma145> hey
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08:19 <luke-jr> hm
08:19 <luke-jr> we got in a movie
08:46 <GodTodd> that's called a casting couch, luke
08:47 <GodTodd> is it at least heterosexual porn?
09:14 <luke-jr> ...
09:15 <luke-jr> Armagetron is referenced by an actual movie*
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09:17 <zman> It is? Which one?
09:23 <luke-jr> Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
09:23 <luke-jr> right at the end
09:23 <luke-jr> something like "Preparing to transport light cycle, 3 2 1"
09:23 <luke-jr> pretty sure 3,2,1 wasn't in TRON
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10:02 <wrtlprnft> I took my race server down because noone ever played on it
10:03 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: though i generated the maps on the same machine as the arma server (could have solved the cpu thing with nice) and uploaded them to an external server i didn't have ssh access to
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10:33 <royale> hello
10:38 <guru3> hello
10:38 <royale> GURU
10:38 <royale> please teach me
10:38 <guru3> ?
10:38 <royale> you are a guru correct?
10:38 <royale> i just wanted to talk to somebody
10:38 <royale> and you happen to be here
10:38 <guru3> yeah
10:39 <royale> i don't think thats a coincidence
10:39 <guru3> so what does it have to do with teaching
10:39 <royale> i thought a guru would know a lot
10:39 <royale> is that not right?
10:39 <guru3> it's sort of one of those 50/50 situations
10:39 <royale> ??
10:40 <guru3> you could say i know a lot about some stuff but zip about other things
10:40 <royale> i see
10:40 <royale> can you teach me about the thing that you know best?
10:40 <royale> i seek knowledge
10:40 <guru3> not good with stuff like that
10:40 <royale> oh
10:41 <royale> do you make this game?
10:41 <guru3> nope
10:41 <royale> do you know me?
10:41 <guru3> nope
10:41 <royale> oh
10:41 <royale> well nice to meet you
10:41 <guru3> same here
10:41 <royale> are you sleepy?
10:41 <guru3> a bit
10:41 <guru3> just got up a short while ago
10:41 <royale> why are you here?
10:41 <guru3> i always am
10:41 <guru3> always have been
10:42 <royale> wow
10:42 <royale> i came here once and no one was talking
10:42 <royale> the second time i was luckier
10:42 <guru3> irc's like that
10:42 <royale> i never really used it
10:42 <royale> am i keeping you from doing something better?
10:42 <guru3> nope
10:42 <guru3> i multi-task
10:42 <royale> oh cool
10:42 <royale> so
10:43 <royale> what is your favorite book
10:43 <guru3> it's hard to say
10:43  * wrtlprnft is away, reason: “hiding”
10:43 <guru3> i like a lot of books
10:43 <royale> why are you away
10:43 <royale> and what is one that changed how you thought
10:44 <guru3> there's this one i read a few years back
10:44 <guru3> can't remember the name of it tho
10:44 <guru3> but it was a good one
10:44 <royale> uh
10:44 <royale> you couldn't have been that good
10:44 <royale> you don't remember the title
10:44 <royale> *it  couldn't have been that good
10:45 <guru3> you only read the title once on the spine of the book when you pick it off the shelf
10:45 <guru3> and that's the first time you do it
10:45 <guru3> *pick it up
10:45 <guru3> sits on the nightstand until you finish it otherwise
10:45 <guru3> or actually i might have read it all in one go
10:45 <royale> i see
10:45 <royale> have you read steppenwolf?
10:46 <guru3> can't says i have
10:46 <royale> do you drink beer?
10:46 <guru3> nope
10:46 <royale> oh
10:46 <royale> have you read goosebumps?
10:46 <guru3> one or two, ages and ages ago
10:47 <royale> you are about 22
10:47 <royale> or 20
10:47 <guru3> nope
10:47 <royale> 80
10:47 <royale> 30
10:48 <guru3> hell no
10:48 <royale> 15
10:48 <guru3> older
10:48 <royale> 17
10:48 <guru3> older
10:48 <royale> 199
10:48 <royale> 23
10:48 <guru3> younger
10:48 <royale> 19
10:48 <guru3> younger
10:48 <royale> 18
10:48 <guru3> yeah
10:48 <royale> im 19
10:49 <royale> i beat you
10:49 <guru3> Oo
10:49 <royale> are you asian
10:49 <guru3> no
10:49 <royale> are you hispanic
10:50 <guru3> no
10:50 <royale> hwite
10:50 <royale> white
10:50 <guru3> could say that
10:50 <royale> OvO
10:50 <royale> i am white
10:50 <royale> are you in college
10:50 <guru3> yeah
10:51 <royale> where
10:51 <royale> at
10:51 <guru3> england
10:51 <royale> wow
10:51 <royale> uh
10:51 <royale> i like fish and chips
10:51 <royale> i go to school in los angeles
10:51 <guru3> i don't :/
10:52 <royale> so uh
10:52 <royale> were you born therE?
10:53 <guru3> nope
10:53 <royale> were you born in the US
10:53 <guru3> yup
10:53 <royale> me too
10:53 <royale> i like chocolate and scary movies
10:53 <guru3> im not much of a movie person
10:54 <royale> oh
10:54 <royale> what do you do for fun
10:54 <guru3> play around with my computer
10:54 <royale> i like computers
10:54 <royale> i am majoring in computer science/computer enginerring
10:56 <guru3> i might have done that
10:57 <royale> what do you "READ"
10:57 <guru3> random stuff really
10:58 <royale> uh
10:58 <royale> that means study doesn't it?
10:58 <guru3> yeah well you know
10:58 <guru3> i am american
10:58 <royale> i see
10:58 <royale> good old america
10:58 <guru3> so it doesn't really kick in that that's what that means
10:58 <royale> what do you study
10:58 <guru3> i'm studying civil engineering
10:58 <royale> and ENGINEER
10:58 <royale> LIKE ME
10:59 <royale> do you want to go engineering some time?
10:59 <guru3> i dunno
10:59 <guru3> i'm not much of a thinking about the future person
10:59 <royale> if i tried to fight you, who would win
11:00 <guru3> who knows
11:00 <royale> you have a certain way of speaking
11:00 <royale> that doesn't answer any questions
11:00 <royale> are you sure you aren't deez bollocks
11:00 <guru3> because i don't have answers
11:01 <royale> do you have questions?
11:01 <guru3> not really
11:01 <royale> what do you have?
11:01 <guru3> i'm a live and let live sort of guy, generally laid back
11:01 <royale> oh you're a pothead
11:02 <guru3> not at all
11:02 <royale> can you make up a question for me please?
11:02 <guru3> why ask all the questiosn? :)
11:02 <royale> because i am inquisitive
11:02 <royale> and am seeking to knowledge of others
11:03 <royale> and you are a guru
11:03 <guru3> makes sense i guess
11:03 <royale> goddammnit
11:03 <guru3> but i'm just a quiet person
11:03 <royale> can i say bad words?
11:04 <guru3> everynow and then
11:04 <royale> ok
11:04 <royale> thanks
11:04 <royale> FUCKa
11:04 <royale> what songs do you listen to?
11:04 <guru3> that's a good question
11:04 <guru3> i don't really have an answer
11:04 <royale> ugh
11:04 <guru3> i just sorta listen to whatever
11:05 <royale> what question can i ask that will get me a straight ansewr
11:05 <royale> GOSH
11:05 <royale> GOSH GOSH GOSH
11:05 <guru3> questions i have an answer to will generally get an answer
11:05 <royale> what is the square root of 155
11:05 <royale> 144
11:05 <guru3> 12
11:06 <royale> thanks
11:06 <royale> dawg
11:06 <royale> that was "civil" of you
11:06 <royale> HAHAHA
11:06 <royale> good night guru
11:06 <guru3> good night
11:06 <royale> ill think of a good question to ask you
11:07 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(155)
11:07 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(155) = 12.4498996
11:08 <royale> WHAT THE FUCK
11:08 <royale> sqrt(deez nuts)
11:10 <royale> sqrt(11)
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12:01 <Lucifer_arma> #message royale try #eliza
12:01 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
12:02 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, any way to get armabot to use eliza when no command is specified?
12:02 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so
12:03 <wrtlprnft> anyways, that eliza is stuopid
12:10 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it is, but I thought it would satisfy this royale fella
12:13 <Lucifer_arma> The Dr. told me it would take a miracle & it did! On 9/16/01, my husband & I went to a worship center. A nice lady, led by the Holy Spirit, came over to us & prayed for us. She laid her hands on my belly, my forehead, my husband's forehead, then back to my belly. That day, my miracle baby girl was conceived!
12:13 <Lucifer_arma> why am I reading this webpage?  It's just full of stupid comments from insecure parents!
12:14 <wrtlprnft> bb in some 20 minutes
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> #dict endometriosis
13:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn: endometriosis n : the presence of endometrium elsewhere than in the lining of the uterus; causes premenstrual pain and dysmenorrhea [syn: {adenomyosis}]
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> no way!  This would seem to indicate that good sex for the whole month gives a woman less pms!
13:40 <arctanx> Heh I just emailed the ISP of the only place I know in australia that runs an AA server, asking if I could admin it for them
13:40 <arctanx> I'm pretty sure it doesn't talk to master, and it just sits there on stock standard defaults
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13:56 <epsy> #hello
13:56 <@armabot> Hello epsy :) Random Fortune: If the aborigine drafted an IQ test, all of Western civilization would || presumably flunk it. || -- Stanley Garn
14:26 <wrtlprnft> hi
14:27 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails styball
14:27 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: No online players.
14:29 <epsy> want to go on?
14:29 <wrtlprnft> epsy: play a bit on wrtlprnft.servegame.org:4536 if you like
14:29 <wrtlprnft> that's the race server Lucifer_arma talked about
14:30 <epsy> it's teamplay or...
14:30 <epsy> ah
14:30 <epsy> what's the name?
14:31 <wrtlprnft> race around the track
14:31 <epsy> ah that one
14:31 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails race ar
14:31 <epsy> i know it
14:31 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Race Around The Track (beta): Players (1/16): wrtlprnft |mbc|
14:31 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
14:37 <arctanx> #lastseen arctanx
14:37 <@armabot> arctanx: arctanx seems to be on ShadowLight Tron (You know you wanna!) right now.
14:38 <wrtlprnft> never been on that server
14:38 <arctanx> oh that's interesting
14:38 <arctanx> so _that's_ this ISP's server
14:38 <arctanx> which no one ever uses
14:39 <arctanx> guess it does talk to master then :P
14:39 <wrtlprnft> i notice
14:39 <wrtlprnft> it's nice and laggy for me
14:39 <arctanx> 100-120ms for me. quite nice compared with the 300+ odd I get on 95% of servers
14:40 <wrtlprnft> 400-500 for me
14:41 <arctanx> Anyway, given its inactivity, I'm hoping they'll let me tinker with it, and if so I'll set up a more interesting game mode
14:43 <wrtlprnft> maybe put aussi in its name
14:43 <arctanx> I would, yes
14:43 <wrtlprnft> so one knows what's special about it
14:43 <arctanx> I would like nothing more (in the context of AA) to get an aust community happening
14:43  * wrtlprnft would prefer
14:43 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo -v limbo
14:44 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “limbo” at the moment, sorry.
14:44 <wrtlprnft> ?!
14:44 <arctanx> what exactly would you prefer?
14:44 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i'd prefer "Ramps and flying cycles!"
14:44 <arctanx> what the heck is that?
14:45 <wrtlprnft> description of [dlh]_'s server
14:45 <wrtlprnft> unfortunately not implemented yet
14:45 <arctanx> I was going to say :P
14:45 <wrtlprnft> x
14:45 <wrtlprnft> x_x
14:46 <arctanx> also, what's the name used for the kind of game which it is by default? like not fortress or CTF or anything?
14:46 <arctanx> it's just escaped me
14:46 <wrtlprnft> last man standing?
14:46 <arctanx> nah, grid, that's it
14:46 <wrtlprnft> “boring fooling around”?
14:47 <arctanx> well if you say so :P
14:47 <arctanx> it's easier for an inexperienced person like me if you're not letting a team down
14:58 <arctanx> and a ping of 420 doesn't help
14:58  * arctanx yawns
14:58 <arctanx> time for bed
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16:43 <luke-jr|work> so long and thanks for all the fish
16:43 <luke-jr|work> we wish it didn't come to this
16:43 <luke-jr|work> ♬♬♬
16:43 <wrtlprnft> so what?
16:44 <wrtlprnft> do it like the dolphins and disappear
16:44 <wrtlprnft> :P
16:44 <luke-jr|work> the movie referenced Arma btw
16:44  * wrtlprnft doesn't think so
16:44 <luke-jr|work> no?
16:44 <luke-jr|work> coincidence?
16:44 <wrtlprnft> where? when?
16:44 <luke-jr|work> the end
16:45 <wrtlprnft> the other end of the universe?
16:45 <luke-jr|work> "Preparing light cycle for transport ... 3, 2, 1"
16:45 <luke-jr|work> or smth like that
16:45 <wrtlprnft> which movie do you mean?
16:45 <luke-jr|work> Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
16:45 <wrtlprnft> there's 2 AFAIK
16:46 <luke-jr|work> oh
16:46 <luke-jr|work> hm
16:46 <luke-jr|work> I imagine the more recent one
16:46 <wrtlprnft> i only know that the newer movie ends with marvin saying, “the restaurant is at the OTHER end of the universe!”
16:46 <luke-jr|work> we didn't have "3 2 1" until 0.3 IIRC
16:46 <luke-jr|work> yes, that one
16:46 <wrtlprnft> i never heard the word “lightcycle” in that ine
16:46 <wrtlprnft> *one
16:47 <wrtlprnft> and note that that movie was released well before the sound engine
16:48 <wrtlprnft> so maybe arma references the movie
16:48 <luke-jr|work> hm
16:50 <wrtlprnft> #g 15.4 inch in cm
16:50 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 15.4 inch = 39.11600 centimeters
16:53 <luke-jr|work> #roulette span
16:53 <@armabot> luke-jr|work: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
16:53 <luke-jr|work> #roulette spin
16:53 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
16:53 <luke-jr|work> #roulette 
16:53 <@armabot> luke-jr|work: *click*
16:56 <wrtlprnft> #roulétte
16:56 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: *click*
16:58 <wrtlprnft> #g 14.1 inch in cm
16:58 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 14.1 inch = 35.81400 centimeters
17:04 <luke-jr|work> #roulette 
17:04 <@armabot> luke-jr|work: *click*
17:11 <wrtlprnft> #roulétte
17:11 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: *click*
17:22 <epsy> back
17:23 <luke-jr|work> #roulétte
17:23 <@armabot> luke-jr|work: *click*
17:23 <wrtlprnft> #roulétte
17:23 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: *click*
17:23 <epsy> what's that thing???
17:23 <epsy> ><
17:24 <epsy> > #roulétte :Illegal channel name
17:24 <epsy> ><
17:26 <wrtlprnft> the é is a cheat x_X
17:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr|work loves to use it
17:26 <epsy> é
17:26 <wrtlprnft> try typing #roulette
17:26 <epsy> #roulette
17:26 <@armabot> epsy: *click*
17:26 <wrtlprnft> a few times :P
17:26 <epsy> ehh
17:27 <epsy> #roulette
17:27 -!- epsy was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
17:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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17:27 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: you jerk
17:27 <wrtlprnft> hehe
17:27 -!- Nixda037 [n=55e926f0@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
17:27 <epsy> lol
17:27 <Nixda037> #roulette
17:27 <@armabot> Nixda037: *click*
17:27 <Nixda037> #roulette
17:27 <@armabot> Nixda037: *click*
17:27 <Nixda037> #roulette
17:27 -!- Nixda037 was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
17:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
17:27 <epsy> LOL
17:27 <wrtlprnft> *** Nixda037 wurde gekicked durch armabot (BANG!)
17:27 <wrtlprnft> omg
17:28 <wrtlprnft> what sort of german is that?
17:28 <wrtlprnft> gekicked?
17:28 <epsy>  Vous avez été expulsé de #armagetron par armabot (BANG!)
17:28 <luke-jr|work> bah, it's all the same
17:28 <epsy> yeah armabot kicks
17:28 <luke-jr|work> german babble
17:28 <epsy> :P
17:28 <luke-jr|work> :p
17:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #10 sek in chf
17:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 10 sek in chf
17:38 <@armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 10 Swedish kronor = 1.78032792 Swiss francs
17:38 <guru3> #g 715 gbp in chf
17:38 <@armabot> guru3: 715 British pounds = 1,708.16966 Swiss francs
17:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wow
17:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> that is
17:39 <[Xpert]DarkStar> a lot
17:39 <epsy> does an arma resource support letters in it's version?
17:41 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:41 <epsy> k
17:41 <epsy> i prefer asking before crashing my seerver :P
17:42 <guru3> picky picky
17:56 <guru3> #gm 715 gbp in usd
17:56 <guru3> #g 715 gbp in usd
17:56 <@armabot> guru3: 715 British pounds = 1,400.828 U.S. dollars
17:58 <luke-jr|work> O.o
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18:28 <wrtlprnft> #g 200 gbp in eur
18:28 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 200 British pounds = 296.983477 Euros
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19:28 <DrJoeTr0n> looks like my dad has been using my computer
19:28 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as DrJoeTron
19:32 <DrJoeTron> because I got spyware for some reason
19:33 <wrtlprnft> !#*&%
19:33 <wrtlprnft> crashed opera for like the 5th time today
19:33 <wrtlprnft> apparently it doesn't like my use of xmlhttprequest
19:37 <DrJoeTron> the fuck did this spyware comefrom
19:40 <luke-jr|work> ..
19:41 <wrtlprnft> fuckfuckfuck!
19:41 <wrtlprnft> again
19:41 <wrtlprnft> and everytime it crashes it takes my ~50 tabs with it
19:43 <wrtlprnft> and again
19:43 -!- HIM [n=d9d2576f@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
19:43 <HIM> hey why cant i find Xzl server?
19:43 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails xzl
19:43 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: ~"XzL.Clan The Server: Players (3/12): ->tWc: Aard, calm, M
19:43 <wrtlprnft> maybe you're banned from it
19:44 <HIM> yeah but i have played in 1 year and just saw it the first week
19:45 <HIM> can you unban me if im banned
19:46 <HIM> #serverdetails ID
19:46 <@armabot> HIM: -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server: Players (4/12): -=}ID<QUARG, .dBd|arilou, .dBd|zero, H2H|Rumsi
19:47 <HIM> =P
19:47 <HIM> #serverdetails MBC
19:47 <@armabot> HIM: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “mbc” at the moment, sorry.
19:47 <HIM> isnt MBC server up?
19:48 <HIM> man dbd vs mbc clan war there
19:48 <HIM> #serverdetails Micro
19:48 <@armabot> HIM: MicroBusCity.com: No online players.
19:48 <HIM> oh
19:57 <wrtlprnft> i can'T unban you from xzl
19:59 <spidey_> ohs
19:59 <spidey_> shit
19:59 <spidey_> i'm in the dbd
19:59 <spidey_> fuck, brbr :D
20:02 <HIM> :P
20:02 <HIM> i asked the admin on there site hope he unban me
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20:04 <spidey_> heh
20:04 <spidey_> it's still a hour away
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20:22 <epsy> hey
20:23 <epsy> hi him
20:23 <epsy> :)
20:23 <HIM> hey epsy :D
20:23 <HIM> spidey :D
20:23 <epsy> has someone mtp-target o,n linux?
20:24 <HIM> nix :
20:24 <HIM> nix :(
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20:27 <revan> Hiya, I was wondering if someone could compile a 0.2.8.1 suse 10.2 rpm build of armagetron.
20:27  * revan looks at luke awkwardly
20:27 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:27 <luke-jr|work> I don't think anyone here uses suse
20:28 <revan> uh-oh, am I going to get lectured?
20:28  * revan hides
20:28 <epsy> well...
20:28 <epsy> what doesn't work if you compile it yourself?
20:29 <epsy> there isn't a thing to compile softwares in yast?
20:29 <revan> there is?
20:29 <luke-jr|work> suse is a binary OS...
20:29 <epsy> i di dheard that
20:32 <revan> well, I could try a .src.rpm
20:33 <epsy> but if you try to compile it yourself?
20:34 <revan> well, I'm not very enthusiastic about that since I've never successfully compiled source
20:34  * luke-jr|work notes there is an RPM on the dl site
20:34 <epsy> lol
20:34 <revan> yes I know, but if I run it it gives me no textures
20:34 <revan> even the text is blank
20:34 <wrtlprnft> there's always a first revan 
20:35 <luke-jr|work> hum
20:35 <luke-jr|work> report a bug?
20:35 <wrtlprnft> you just need the correct packages
20:35 <revan> well, it shows the color of the text in blocks 
20:35 <epsy> did installed the -devel: packages?
20:35 <luke-jr|work> epsy: he shouldn't need to
20:35 <epsy> for the binary, sure
20:35 <epsy> but to compile it
20:36 <revan> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
20:36 <revan> See `config.log' for more details.
20:36 <revan> that's a problem
20:36 <epsy> yast -i g++ gcc
20:36 <epsy> or something like that
20:37 <luke-jr|work> are we only checking for a C compiler and not C++? O.o
20:37 <epsy> arma is in C or in C++ ??
20:37 <luke-jr|work> C++
20:37 <revan> C++ I believe
20:37 <wrtlprnft> c++
20:37 <epsy> so
20:37  * luke-jr|work ponders rewriting Arma in Qt
20:37 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr|work: uh, binreloc is in c
20:38 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: oh
20:38 <wrtlprnft> and shttpd is, too
20:38 <revan> oh yeah I think I have Qt installed
20:38 <luke-jr|work> but a C++ compiler could still compile it, no?
20:38 <luke-jr|work> revan: we don't use Qt, we use C++
20:38 <epsy> there is a webserver in arma???
20:38 <epsy> lol
20:38 <luke-jr|work> porting to Qt was an idea
20:38 <luke-jr|work> epsy: 0.3+
20:38  * wrtlprnft wonders if there's a system with a c++ compiler, but no c compiler
20:38 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: it's possible
20:38 <wrtlprnft> it's stupid
20:38 <epsy> (and what it does d othere ???)
20:38 <luke-jr|work> heh
20:38 <wrtlprnft> it's luke-jr|work 
20:39 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: #roulette
20:39 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's intended to serve resources
20:39 <revan> this is a mess.. does ubuntu have a gui-like installing program like YaST?
20:39 <epsy> aww k
20:39 <luke-jr|work> epsy: nothing really
20:39 <epsy> tnx
20:39 <wrtlprnft> synaptics?
20:39 <epsy> :P
20:39 <luke-jr|work> revan: Adept maybe
20:39 <wrtlprnft> or whatever it's called
20:39 <wrtlprnft> ubuntu sucks anyways
20:39 <epsy> in ubuntu
20:39  * revan notices that luke was right about rpms
20:39 <luke-jr|work> epsy: IIRC, it was planned to have a remote admin thing
20:39 <epsy> if i remember good
20:39 <wrtlprnft> that, too
20:40 <revan> I like gnome though...
20:40 <luke-jr|work> who needs a GUI anyway?
20:40 <luke-jr|work> revan: so?
20:40 <revan> me :)
20:40 <epsy> in ubuntu it's applications>add/relmove
20:40 <revan> mm, I see epsy
20:40  * luke-jr|work notes Gentoo has GNOME
20:40 <epsy> LOL
20:40 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, if you take a night to compile it, yes
20:40 <wrtlprnft> gentoo isn't for everything
20:40  * revan doesn't want to pay another $200 :S
20:41 <luke-jr|work> but noooo-- revan had to go and wipe his Gentoo install w/o even backing up configs
20:41 <wrtlprnft> *for everyone
20:41 <epsy> Lucifer_arma, you know, you can disable that
20:41 <revan> um, I think GRUB was going bad or something
20:41 <luke-jr|work> so?
20:41 <epsy> but, where we're now???
20:41 <luke-jr|work> reinstall it, worst case
20:41 <epsy> lol
20:41 <luke-jr|work> GRUB is OS-indepedent anyhow
20:41 <luke-jr|work> you could use it with Windoze
20:41 <luke-jr|work> :p
20:42 <revan> windows didn't boot at all and I still needed it. and unfortunately windoze is TOO STUPID to notice that there is another partition on my freakin hardrive! :(
20:42 <wrtlprnft> it's not stupid
20:42 <epsy> how we did come to gentoo and grub??? lol
20:42 <wrtlprnft> it's quite intelligent of it it wipe out every other os
20:42 <luke-jr|work> epsy: that's what he used to use
20:42 <epsy> ah
20:42 <epsy> i heard that he's using suse
20:42 <luke-jr|work> revan: so reinstall just Windoze? :p
20:42 <epsy> but..
20:42 <luke-jr|work> he's used Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and opensuse since Gentoo
20:43 <luke-jr|work> no clue what he's on now
20:43 <epsy> ?
20:43 <epsy>    ?
20:43 <luke-jr|work>       ?
20:43 <revan> i'm on opensuse now
20:43 <epsy> lol
20:43 <luke-jr|work> I say wipe it all and use FreeDOS! :p
20:44 <revan> rofl no thanks
20:44  * luke-jr|work knows a DOS fanatic
20:44  * epsy too
20:44 <epsy> <newt>
20:44 <wrtlprnft> i can run dos in qemu without noticing a performance drop
20:44 <luke-jr|work> heh
20:44 <wrtlprnft> (free)?DOS
20:45 <luke-jr|work> using X on a remote host?
20:45 <luke-jr|work> :p
20:45 <wrtlprnft> tunneling X through ssh back and forth 200 times?
20:45 <luke-jr|work> heh
20:50 <revan> what are the two compilers I need?
20:50 <epsy> gcc and g++
20:50 <revan> what about gcc and gcc-c++?
20:50 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:50 <luke-jr|work> same thing
20:51 <revan> ah :)
20:51 <luke-jr|work> you also need libxml2-devel, etc
20:51 <luke-jr|work> but I think this is all on the wiki
20:52 <revan> luke.. is utopios going to have a super rad double click and install source feature?
20:52 <luke-jr|work> ...
20:52 <epsy> *hmm*
20:53 <luke-jr|work> double click? what's that?
20:53 <epsy> ><
20:53 <revan> like where I can right click a .tar.bz2 file and click "install as source"?
20:54 <revan> ...............
20:54 <revan> checking for SDL_Init in -lSDL... no
20:54 <revan> configure: error: You need the library SDL to compile Armagetron. Read the file doc/install_linux.html.
20:54 <epsy> urpmi -i SDL-devel
20:54 <luke-jr|work> lol
20:54 <epsy> meh
20:54  * epsy is lost
20:55 <epsy> we're on: suse/wingblows®/ubuntu/kubuntu?
20:55 <epsy> or /fedora ?
20:55 <revan> suse
20:55 <epsy> yast -i SDL-devel
20:56 <revan> according to luke fedora sucks
20:56 <luke-jr|work> as does spidey_ 
20:57  * epsy thinks so too
20:57 <revan> checking for IMG_Load in -lSDL_image... no
20:57 <revan> configure: error: You need libIMG/SDL_image to compile Armagetron.
20:58 <revan> ugh
20:58 <epsy> grmpf***
20:58 <revan> what-a-what?
20:58 <epsy> yast -i sdl_image-devel
20:58 <epsy> or something like that
20:59 <revan> ..great... there's sdl_image and sdl_devel but no sdl_image-devel
20:59 <epsy> well, what are tha packages thatr starts wih SDL and have -devel inside?
21:00 <revan> there;s SDL_Pango-devel
21:00 <epsy> well, install them all
21:00 <guru3> ye yucky yold yast
21:00 <revan> what if I try smart instead?
21:01 <epsy> if i would recommend you another package manager
21:01 <epsy> i would say you to use portage
21:01 <guru3> suse has yast
21:01 <guru3> and...
21:01 <guru3> yast
21:01 <revan> and
21:01 <epsy> i know
21:01 <revan> smart
21:04 <guru3> well ive never used smart so
21:04 <revan> ah f*** it, I'll just download the devel package and use ZEN...
21:06  * revan snipes the Novell CEO
21:09 <revan> omg! it's working! it's woooorrking!! 
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21:22 <revan> ok, it works after compiling from source. Thanks guys :)
21:22 <epsy> :)
21:23 <revan> is there a way to turn opengl off in it though? I don't see the option in the settigns
21:24 <revan> gah!... you've got to be kidding me.. :/ it's doing the same thing it did before :(
21:25 <guru3> what is it doing?
21:27 <revan> it doesn't show textures
21:27 <revan> I'll upload a screenshot on imageshack
21:28 <guru3> maybe it's your version of Z
21:28 <guru3> *X
21:28 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
21:29 <revan> http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/7488/screenshot2mi1.png
21:29 <revan> or it might be xgl?
21:29 <revan> I'm using beryl
21:30 <revan> well, hm, it's working now 
21:30 <guru3> beryl?
21:30 <epsy> gtg
21:31 <epsy> cya
21:31 <guru3> aka compiz?
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21:31 <guru3> like with Xgl?
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21:31 <revan> yes
21:31 <guru3> yeah
21:31 <guru3> known issue then
21:31 <revan> it's a fork off of compiz :)
21:31 <Sticky> ooh xgl...i just came in at the right time
21:31 <Sticky> xgl rocks
21:31 <guru3> it's an xgl thing
21:36 <revan> oh.. is there anyway to fix it?
21:37 <revan> like disabling opengl?
21:37 <revan> in the game that is
21:38 <guru3> ...
21:38 <guru3> opengl
21:38 <guru3> is absolutely necessary
21:38 <revan> I remember in the windoze version you could do so and it ran fine 
21:41 <guru3> in windows there's directx
21:41 <guru3> not true in linux
21:41 <revan> oh yeah, that's true
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21:44 <luke-jr|work> revan: ... turn opengl off? you mean a dedicated server?
21:45 <luke-jr|work> we still support DirectX?
21:45 <guru3> not sure really
21:45 <revan> uh sure luke :P
21:51 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc effects of drugs on spiders :p
21:52 <revan> ah! Yes! That fixes my bug completely! :)
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22:00 <ghableska> bah
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22:09 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:09 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 52.3°F (3:07 PM CST on January 03, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 28.82 in 975.8 hPa. 
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22:15 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:15 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Wind southwest 30 km/h except gusting to 50 along the fundy coast this evening. Low minus 2 except plus 3 along the fundy coast.; Thursday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h gusting to 40. High (1 more message)
22:15 <ghableska> it's warm :/
22:20 <spidey_> heh
22:20 <spidey_> i think this is the first tourny mbc has won
22:20 <ghableska> o0
22:20 <Vanhayes> what tourny?
22:21 <spidey_> mbc vs dbd
22:21 <Vanhayes> dbd?
22:21 <spidey_> hm
22:21 <spidey_> that clan with nightmare
22:21 <spidey_> zero
22:21 <spidey_> jasong
22:21 <spidey_> pysmon
22:21 <spidey_> all them
22:21 <Vanhayes> must be rubber clan
22:22 <Vanhayes> rubber meaning they play high rubber servers
22:22 <ghableska> wasn't dbd once sp?
22:22 <spidey_> i think
22:22 <Vanhayes> I cant tell anymore, a new clan pops up every week
22:23 <ghableska> heh
22:23  * ghableska is glad he rejected the invitation to sp
22:23 <luke-jr|work> heh
22:23  * Vanhayes is too
22:24 <luke-jr|work> wanna start a new clan?!?!
22:24 <Vanhayes> clans dont make sense to me, in tron especially
22:24 <ghableska> clans are just an excuse for people to suck at tron :P
22:25 <luke-jr|work> heh
22:26 <luke-jr|work> who needs an excuse?
22:26 <luke-jr|work> I do it for fun
22:26 <luke-jr|work> :p
22:26 <ghableska> with 5 binds?
22:26 <luke-jr|work> yeah
22:26  * ghableska sucks
22:26 <luke-jr|work> I annoy Vanhayes by spinning in circles
22:26 -!- ghableska is now known as suckleska
22:27 <luke-jr|work> just press 5*50 lefts and leave the PC for a while
22:30 <spidey_> ...
22:30 <spidey_> i think you're wrong
22:30 <Vanhayes> i mean itd be different if clans took in new players and trained them to be good, but its like "hey your good, want to join my clan so we can brag about how much we pwn?"
22:30 <suckleska> yep
22:30 <spidey_> not true
22:30 <spidey_> not in mbc :p
22:30 <Vanhayes> well for the most part
22:31 <Vanhayes> mbs is pretty good with that
22:31 <spidey_> i got in 2 days after i started playing tron
22:31 <Vanhayes> mbc*
22:31 <spidey_> because of how well i got along with other players
22:31 <spidey_> not by how good i was
22:31 <suckleska> O_O
22:31 <Vanhayes> they must not have known you very well then
22:31 <Vanhayes> heh
22:31 <spidey_> ..
22:31 <spidey_> since then i've become a veteran member
22:31 <spidey_> server mod
22:31 <spidey_> and micro said i could be a site mod if i wanted
22:31 <spidey_> but i don't :D
22:32 <Vanhayes> heh, and when was the last time you played?
22:32 <spidey_> #lastseen spidey
22:32 <@armabot> spidey_: spidey |mbc| has last been seen on MicroBusCity.com 12 minutes ago.
22:32 <spidey_> i play every night
22:32 <suckleska> #lastseen suckleska
22:32 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
22:33 <Vanhayes> #ping
22:33 <@armabot> pong
22:33 <Vanhayes> been a while since I used my name then
22:33 <suckleska> Apollo?
22:33 <suckleska> ;)
22:33 <@armabot> suckleska: suckleska has last been seen on Fortress Café 10 days 23 hours 56 minutes ago.
22:33 <@armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on  Wild West  =Wild Fortress= 1 days 18 hours 0 minutes ago.
22:34 <Vanhayes> hmm maybe not that long then
22:34 <Vanhayes> #armabot you are slow
22:34 <@armabot> Vanhayes: It shall be.
22:34 <Vanhayes> ha
22:47 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:47 <suckleska> O_o
22:47  * wrtlprnft is getting really tired of this merry christmas thread
22:47 <suckleska> hahaha
22:48 <suckleska> it's not christmas related any more
22:48 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: can you start one of your paint contests in there please?
22:49 <suckleska> hah
22:50 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft done and done
22:50 <DrJoeTron> in the actual thread?
22:50 <wrtlprnft> sure
22:50 <wrtlprnft> that's the point
22:50 <wrtlprnft> to kill the discussion
22:50 <DrJoeTron> :D
22:50 <DrJoeTron> commin right up
22:51 <suckleska> ooh
22:51 <wrtlprnft> 5
22:51 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:52  * suckleska recalls a blastocyst is around 500 cells, and a fly's brain is 100, 000
22:54 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-6199.png
22:54 <wrtlprnft> now that would be a cool map
22:54 <suckleska> pretty
22:54 <spidey_> ...
22:54 <suckleska> how many axes?
22:54 <spidey_> there is one already
22:55 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:55 <spidey_> CT has a map like that on ctwf
22:55 <wrtlprnft> i know
22:55 <wrtlprnft> i made it
22:55 <suckleska> heh
22:55 <wrtlprnft> but that one is skewed
22:55 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: holy crap
22:55 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-6199.png ← map on CTWF
22:55 <spidey_> what's the difference?
22:55 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: too bad that'd need more variable navigation
22:55 <spidey_> lol
22:56 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr|work: y?
22:56 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: you just posted the same link...
22:56 <wrtlprnft> oops.
22:56 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-6199.png
22:56 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: turns like that wouldn't even be easy w/ chico-axes
22:56 <luke-jr|work> ...
22:56 <luke-jr|work> again
22:56 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-2893.png
22:56 <spidey_> luke-jr, it is easy
22:56 <luke-jr|work> hm
22:56 <luke-jr|work> that 6199 might actually suck
22:56 <luke-jr|work> for actual play
22:57 <wrtlprnft> uh
22:57 <wrtlprnft> it's been on ctwf for some time now
22:57 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-1016.png
22:57 <luke-jr|work> the guy coming out rightmost-left can cut off rightmost-right easily
22:58 <wrtlprnft> he'll have other things to worry about :P
22:58 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-5678.png
22:58 <wrtlprnft> too bad we can't have non-circular zones
22:58 <suckleska> isn't phil... working on that?
22:59 <wrtlprnft> he was
22:59 <wrtlprnft> dunno where he went
22:59 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-4135.png
22:59 <luke-jr|work> I'd like a zone that has different effects depending on what side you enter it
23:00 <luke-jr|work> eg, one side is red/death while the other is green/win
23:00 <Sticky> can you have rubber/break recharge zones??
23:00 <wrtlprnft> why not have two half-circular zone?
23:00 <wrtlprnft> *zones
23:00 <wrtlprnft> Sticky: if you hack the server, yes
23:00 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: you can't :p
23:00 <Sticky> hmm that would be quite cool
23:00 <luke-jr|work> and I want to be able to exit the other side safely
23:01 <luke-jr|work> not to mention having the colours rotate in a circle
23:01 <luke-jr|work> hm
23:01 <luke-jr|work> something doable:
23:01 <luke-jr|work> a zone that erases walls
23:02 <luke-jr|work> heh
23:02 <luke-jr|work> or better yet
23:02 <wrtlprnft> if they're not rimwalls…
23:02 <luke-jr|work> even if
23:02 <wrtlprnft> just have it cast gExplosions all the time
23:02 <luke-jr|work> breakout mode
23:03 <wrtlprnft> some breakout-style game is already possible
23:03 <luke-jr|work> have rimwalls w/ height lose 1 unit each hit
23:03 <wrtlprnft> with two teams…
23:03 <luke-jr|work> styball-based
23:03 <luke-jr|work> and cycles die when hit with the enemy ball
23:03 <luke-jr|work> mm
23:04 <Sticky> how about deployable sentury guns that shoot death zones...would spice up fortress defense
23:04 <wrtlprnft> ramps and flying cycles!
23:04 <luke-jr|work> for the record, wrtlprnft thought up this idea :p
23:04 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: interesting idea :p
23:04 <luke-jr|work> I like wrtl's breakout game tho
23:04 <luke-jr|work> maybe when I get home I'll try implementing it
23:04 <Sticky> pong
23:05 <wrtlprnft> you don't actually have to code a lot
23:05 <luke-jr|work> unless wrtl wants to
23:05 <wrtlprnft> just have a map with two axes and two teams
23:05 <luke-jr|work> ...
23:05 <wrtlprnft> a ball within the reach of one team so it can fire it off
23:05 <wrtlprnft> and a lot of fortress zones in between
23:05 <Sticky> are you talking about pong??
23:05 <wrtlprnft> ping
23:05 <wrtlprnft> pong
23:05 <luke-jr|work> no, fortress zones for blocks wouldn't work as well
23:06 <luke-jr|work> though they'd be coloured...
23:06 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: Breakout
23:06 <Sticky> ahh
23:06 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: I was thinking allowing players to move in the normal 4 axes
23:06 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/map-previews/preview-9843.png
23:06  * wrtlprnft loves taking random maps and transforming them
23:06 <luke-jr|work> lol
23:07 <luke-jr|work> get a cursive/script font
23:07 <luke-jr|work> and make the text be an OUTSIDE rim
23:07 <wrtlprnft> eek
23:07 <wrtlprnft> that would lag a ton
23:07 <luke-jr|work> lol
23:07 <wrtlprnft> but if you like
23:07 <luke-jr|work> why?
23:07 <wrtlprnft> what text would you like?
23:07 <Sticky> did like the idea of allowing the concept of different bikes...so you could chose a high speed low rubber bike or slow high rubber bike or even realy slow with shooting capability
23:07 <luke-jr|work> foobar
23:07 <wrtlprnft> I <3 luke-jr|work
23:07 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:07 <luke-jr|work> O.o
23:08 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: that won't be possible until DCT
23:08 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:08 <Sticky> dct??
23:08 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: RTFF
23:08 <wrtlprnft> nvm reading whatever he has
23:08 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: right now, all cycles must have the same specs
23:08 <Sticky> heh
23:08 <wrtlprnft> its chance to ever get implemented is -.5
23:09 <luke-jr|work> pfft
23:09 <Sticky> do you have a ticket system at the moment detailing what needs to be implemented in the future??
23:09 <luke-jr|work> no
23:09 <luke-jr|work> it's the dev forum
23:09 <luke-jr|work> and the wiki
23:10 <Sticky> k
23:10 <luke-jr|work> Sticky: DCT is basically moving configuration and game state into the data realm
23:11 <luke-jr|work> instead of having so much hard coded
23:12 <Sticky> ahh
23:12 <luke-jr|work> but it depends on vValue to store functions/physics
23:13 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=126621#126621 here ya go, chief
23:13 <luke-jr|work> which isn't that simple
23:13 <wrtlprnft> neat!
23:14 <wrtlprnft> let me finish luke-jr|work's aamap first
23:14 <suckleska> nice, DrJoeTron
23:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6681 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/configure.ac: --disable-respawn configure option
23:14 <DrJoeTron> yay :D
23:15 <Sticky> is that a discussion of abortion
23:16 <suckleska> heh
23:16 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:18 <luke-jr|work> you couldn't tell w/o asking?
23:18 <Sticky> its a long thread
23:19 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/crazy/foobar-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
23:19 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/crazy/foobar-1.aamap.xml
23:19 <wrtlprnft> have fun.
23:21 <suckleska> http://www.download.com/Subliminal-Mind/3000-2129_4-10218674.html <- erm
23:22 <luke-jr|work> ...
23:23 <Vanhayes> have you tried that yet wrtlprnft ?
23:25 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:25 <wrtlprnft> with bots
23:25 <suckleska> do they survive?
23:26 <Vanhayes> heh I meant that subliminal thing
23:27 <wrtlprnft> no
23:27  * suckleska would be surprised if that actually worked
23:27 <Sticky> dear lord...reading that thread the tron comunity is definately not the best to be giving advice to someone who is in some form of depresion
23:28 <suckleska> heh, Sticky
23:29 <wrtlprnft> indeed
23:29 <suckleska> #weather 50266
23:29 <@armabot> suckleska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 51.1°F (4:28 PM CST on January 03, 2007). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 28.82 in 975.8 hPa.  Near record highs Thursday... 
23:29 <suckleska> ugh
23:30 <spidey_> luke-jr, ping
23:30 <luke-jr|work> spidey_: wtf
23:30 <spidey_> o.o
23:30 <spidey_> is that a autorespond script?
23:30 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
23:30 <Vanhayes> luke-jr|work: ping
23:30 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
23:30 <luke-jr|work> spidey: wtf
23:30 <spidey> o.O
23:30 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
23:30 <Sticky> #insult spidey
23:30 <@armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a pignutted ass-full of malodorous snake. 
23:31 <Vanhayes> #luke
23:31 <Sticky> heh
23:31 <@armabot> stfu baka noob?? RTFM??
23:31 <Vanhayes> ha
23:31 <suckleska> #uberinsult
23:31 <@armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
23:31 <Vanhayes> its back
23:31 <guru3> that's the best insult
23:31  * suckleska wonders where canada went off to
23:31 <Sticky> when did we start adding canada to the insults
23:31 <Vanhayes> probly got depressed and wuit tron
23:31 <Vanhayes> quit*
23:32 <Sticky> you guys realy need to lay off him
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23:32 <Sticky> hes 12 ffs
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23:32 <@armabot> stfu spidey
23:32 <spidey> shit
23:32 <Vanhayes> ha
23:32 <guru3> he's 12? all the more reason to lay into him
23:32 <suckleska> heh
23:32 <Vanhayes> well he does adk some of the stupidest wuestions Ive ever heard
23:32 <Vanhayes> ask*
23:32 <guru3> have you ever just watched him talk?
23:32 <Sticky> his flaiming on the x forum was particularly bad
23:32 <guru3> it's like a stream of shit is coming out of his mouth
23:33 <luke-jr|work> must taste bad
23:33 <suckleska> "ii2020:     canada... it is not that you suck... it is that you need to find a team where your thinking matches your teammates t"
23:33 <suckleska> Heh.
23:33 <Sticky> yeah he's mouthy but....he's 12 i was too at that age(i think)
23:33 <guru3> i sure as hell wasn't
23:34 <luke-jr|work> spidey was
23:34 <Sticky> atleast he tries to modify his bad play
23:35 <Sticky> it may surprise luke after other conversations but at 12 i was quite christian
23:35 <suckleska> O_O
23:35 <luke-jr|work> doubtful
23:35 <Sticky> why??
23:36 <luke-jr|work> cuz you'd still be if you were?
23:36 <luke-jr|work> maybe not, but then again there's probably less than 1% of the world who are christian
23:36 <Sticky> you can convert both ways
23:36 <luke-jr|work> so still unlikely
23:36 <luke-jr|work> it makes no sense to convert away from truth
23:36 <Sticky> hehe
23:38 <Sticky> 15% of the world are catholic alone
23:38 <Sticky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_by_country
23:38 <luke-jr|work> no
23:38 <luke-jr|work> 15% at best CLAIM to be Catholic
23:38 <GodTodd> like luke :)
23:39 <luke-jr|work> and what do you mean "alone"?
23:39  * suckleska wonders how long _this_ theological discussion will take
23:39 <Sticky> well there are other forms of christianity besides roman catholosism
23:39 <luke-jr|work> no there aren't
23:39 <Sticky> oh dear
23:39 <luke-jr|work> heretics aren't Christian
23:39 <luke-jr|work> nor are schismatics
23:39 <luke-jr|work> certainly not apostates and pagans
23:40 <GodTodd> #dict christian
23:40 <@armabot> GodTodd: devils, moby-thes, gcide, easton, wn, and gaz-county responded: wn: Christian adj 1: relating to or characteristic of Christianity; "Christian rites" 2: following the teachings or manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus Christ [ant: {unchristian}] n : a religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination; gaz-county: Christian -- U.S. County (18 more messages)
23:40 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=126641#126641
23:40 <Sticky> probably should start a new room for this #christianBitchFight
23:40 <suckleska> wrtlprnft :D
23:40 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: whatever, you pics is better than his
23:41 <luke-jr|work> your*
23:41 <suckleska> DrJoeTron's is like modern art
23:41 <suckleska> like those paintings worth $10,000 that are just a huge black square
23:41 <luke-jr|work> more of 5-year-old art
23:42 <GodTodd> kinda like 5-year-old thinking...
23:42 <suckleska> heh :)
23:42 <wrtlprnft> we need a jury in there
23:42 <DrJoeTron> hoo  man
23:42 <guru3> i'm the jury and the judge.
23:42 <wrtlprnft> come on luke-jr|work GodTodd suckleska, go paint!
23:43 <luke-jr|work> ok...
23:43 <suckleska> wrtlprnft: does this count? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32723431/?qo=21&q=by%3Aghableska&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
23:44 <wrtlprnft> i don't see you on that pic :s
23:44 <wrtlprnft> anyways, guru3 decides
23:44 <suckleska> aw
23:44 <wrtlprnft> note the detailed model of earth i used
23:45 <suckleska> very detailed
23:45 <suckleska> that one green blob is a very accurate depiction of all the continents...
23:45 <suckleska> is it pangea or something? :P
23:45 <wrtlprnft> haha
23:45 <wrtlprnft> maybe australia
23:45 <wrtlprnft> err
23:45 <wrtlprnft> go take the svg version and modify it if you like
23:46 <suckleska> nah
23:46 <wrtlprnft> then make your own :D
23:47  * suckleska goes off to make one
23:48 <GodTodd> i would but luke hasn't told me it's the One True Art, therefore, sadly, i cannot ;)
23:48 <GodTodd> well....that and i gotta cook
23:48 <GodTodd> :D
23:49 <luke-jr|work> I'm a bad artist?
23:49 <luke-jr|work> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=126651#126651
23:49 <GodTodd> i can now officially say...yep you are
23:49 <luke-jr|work> lol
23:49 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:50 <wrtlprnft> you look like a small girl
23:50 <luke-jr|work> stfu
23:50 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:50 <wrtlprnft> in some sort of skirt
23:50 <wrtlprnft> the / \
23:50 <luke-jr|work> there
23:50 <luke-jr|work> that better
23:50 <luke-jr|work> ?
23:51 <wrtlprnft> don'T change it!
23:51 <wrtlprnft> cheater!
23:51 <luke-jr|work> y not
23:51 <wrtlprnft> the old one was more beautiful
23:51 <luke-jr|work> how about this?
23:52 <wrtlprnft> the feet look like the ones of a penguin now
23:52 <luke-jr|work> ok
23:54 <luke-jr|work> hm
23:54 <luke-jr|work> can rimwall heights change during the gameplay?
23:56 <wrtlprnft> wowno
23:56 <wrtlprnft> *no
23:56 <luke-jr|work> :/
23:56 <wrtlprnft> rim walls are never transmitted over the network
23:56  * luke-jr|work ponders
23:56 <wrtlprnft> always read from the map
23:57 <wrtlprnft> need to use zones.
23:57 <luke-jr|work> can player walls change colour/height?
23:57 <wrtlprnft> color maybe
23:57 <wrtlprnft> height never
23:57 <luke-jr|work> hmm
23:57 <wrtlprnft> only from 1 to 0
23:57 <luke-jr|work> opacity?
23:58 <wrtlprnft> not server controlled
23:58 <luke-jr|work> ooh I know...
23:58 <luke-jr|work> player walls short enough you can see over them and for stronger bricks, put a few layers
23:59 <luke-jr|work> so the first hit destroys the outside brick, but there's more inside
23:59 <wrtlprnft> good luck,
23:59 <luke-jr|work> any ideas on creating arbitrary player walls? :p
23:59 <luke-jr|work> from a map?
23:59 <wrtlprnft> certainly not from a current map
23:59 <luke-jr|work> hm

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