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Log from 2006-11-27:
--- Day changed Mon Nov 27 2006
00:04 -!- JJBean [n=irc4u@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
00:05 <JJBean> #ds-clan
00:05 <ghableska> o.0
00:05 <JJBean> hey ghab, long time no see
00:05 <ghableska> hey :)
00:06 <JJBean> how's it going
00:06 <ghableska> pretty good, you?
00:06 <wrtlprnft> hi
00:06 <JJBean> not bad, it's snowing here again
00:06 <ghableska> where?
00:07 <JJBean> Canada West Coast
00:07 <ghableska> ah
00:08 <JJBean> ghab: do you have a team for the ladle?
00:08 <ghableska> no, I'm not sure if I'll be participating in this one
00:08 <JJBean> oh
00:09 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: come on, tm needs you!
00:09 <Your_mom_arma> trivia masters?
00:09 <ghableska> lol, who's on it already?
00:09 <JJBean> I think WS is going to have 4 returning members from the last ladle
00:09 <Compn> heh
00:09 <Compn> <~ kamakazi
00:10 <DrJoeTron> track mania
00:10 <DrJoeTron> needs you
00:10 <JJBean> Half our team was taken by oops
00:10 <DrJoeTron> is what he's saying
00:10 <Your_mom_arma> wrtl have you ever heard of a compact flash(m) -> ide(f) connecter?
00:10 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: you were right about trackmania
00:10 <Compn> JJBean : so manta etc arent playing on ws anymore?
00:10 <ghableska> I got sick of it :P
00:10 <DrJoeTron> of course :0
00:10 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: should be possible
00:10 <Compn> Your_mom_arma : usually its CF > USB reader
00:10 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: compact flash = small PC card bus
00:11 <JJBean> Kama: no they are not, they are in oops for this ladle, we are going to have trouble getting a team together
00:11 <Compn> ah
00:11 <Your_mom_arma> i know its possible, but all i found was pin conversion sheets, not any retail converter
00:11 <JJBean> i cam contemplating if i should just take WS out and join another team
00:12 <DrJoeTron> final fantasy III isn't really aweing me as people said it would.
00:12 <Your_mom_arma> never really like ff games anyway
00:12 <DrJoeTron> you know what i havent either
00:12 <JJBean> FF7 for PS1 is the best one
00:12 <DrJoeTron> like fuck it is
00:13 <DrJoeTron> ff7 = most over rated one ever made
00:13 <JJBean> Haha, it is the only one i have ever played
00:13 <DrJoeTron> but uh, its got some cool parts
00:13 <DrJoeTron> but i hate grinding
00:14 <Your_mom_arma> i hate that in rpg's
00:14 <DrJoeTron> i could barely take it when i played pokemon
00:14 <DrJoeTron> because i was hurting animals with other animals
00:14 <JJBean> Pokemon was insane, in the span of a week, everyone was watching the show and had all those stupid cards
00:14 <spidey> oops
00:14 <spidey> xD
00:14 <DrJoeTron> the games were amazing
00:14 <Your_mom_arma> go kill that bunny 50 times so you can kill that red lizard with (get this guys) 2 tails
00:14 <DrJoeTron> sweet
00:15 <DrJoeTron> 2 tails
00:15 <DrJoeTron> i can buy some potion for this
00:15 <DrJoeTron> oh man mom get this
00:15 <JJBean> Man i need a new Charizard
00:15 <DrJoeTron> if i kill 30 red lizards, i can get the slightly better boots.
00:15 <JJBean> boots?
00:15 <DrJoeTron> yeah
00:16 <Lucifer_arma> haha, lost connection
00:16 <DrJoeTron> they are +23 armor instead of +20 
00:16 <DrJoeTron> they're sweet
00:16 <DrJoeTron> i get to wear them.
00:16 <Your_mom_arma> botts with +2 speed and +3 agility -1 attack
00:16 <DrJoeTron> im angry right now in FFIII
00:16 <Your_mom_arma> boots even
00:16 <DrJoeTron> i finally got jobs.
00:16 <JJBean> Yea I've got these socks that give +Warmth
00:16 <JJBean> +1**
00:17 <DrJoeTron> and my attack without weapons is higher tahn with
00:17 <DrJoeTron> yet it doesnt show it when i try to kill things
00:17 <DrJoeTron> i shouldve waited and bought a wii instead of it.
00:17 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, won't let me reconnect
00:17 <spidey> :|
00:17 <DrJoeTron> i have little to none attention span
00:17 <JJBean> Use your Schwartz Joe use your Schwartz
00:18 <DrJoeTron> which is why arma and i get along ok for the most part
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> me neither :/
00:18 <DrJoeTron> although its an abusive relationship\
00:18 <spidey> i think we broke it
00:18 <spidey> with the timeout
00:18 <spidey> =/
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> says "connection in progress"
00:18 <spidey> Luke-Jr, ping
00:18 <JJBean> Tron is for those who cannot masterbate, or for those who have someone to do it for them
00:18 <Your_mom_arma> rpgs is to video games as solitair(card game) is to board games
00:19 <DrJoeTron> there are some rpg's i just love
00:20 <DrJoeTron> i never had as much fun in an rpg as i did with the Fallout series.
00:20 <JJBean> Racing games just seem to be more fun than Rpg's
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> just remember 900 AD :)
00:20 <DrJoeTron> JJBean play track mania, then look back at what you just said.
00:20 <JJBean> Send me a download site and we will see
00:20 <spidey> #m Luke-Jr year is 900AD
00:20 <spidey> xD
00:20 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
00:20 <DrJoeTron> www.trackmanianations.com
00:21 <DrJoeTron> its the best damn game you'ev ever played
00:21 <DrJoeTron> for 2 weeks
00:21 <DrJoeTron> tops
00:21 <spidey> i still have that server installed...
00:21 <JJBean> Only takes two weeks to beat?
00:21 <DrJoeTron> its an online racing game.
00:21 <spidey> you don't beat  it
00:21 <DrJoeTron> we havent played for lik a week
00:22 <ghableska> JJBean: he's right
00:22 <JJBean> Ah, I see
00:22 <DrJoeTron> you'll think im crazy now
00:22 <Your_mom_arma> i'll pick up an rpg once in a while, but i rarely finish them... always get bored of leveling up. with well designed ones like paper mario or kingdom hearts i can usually stomach. ones with only a great story can usually get me about halfway thru before i get stuck and the story isnt progressing and thats when you relize the combat system sucks
00:23 <ghableska> spidey: do you still play Warrock?
00:23 <spidey> yes
00:23 -!- Fonkay [i=Fonkay@blk-222-100-111.eastlink.ca] has joined #armagetron
00:23 <spidey> die
00:23 <spidey> =p
00:23 <DrJoeTron> people didnt like the combat system in fallout
00:23 <DrJoeTron> i loved it
00:23  * Fonkay dies
00:23 <ghableska> hi Fonkay
00:23 <Fonkay> hiya
00:23 <spidey> woot@
00:23 <DrJoeTron> Fonkay likes purple wood ;p
00:23  * spidey goes play halo
00:23 <DrJoeTron> ewww
00:24 <Fonkay> haha
00:24 <DrJoeTron> halo sucks so hard
00:24 <Fonkay> ebony wood too
00:24 <spidey> die joe
00:24 <spidey> die
00:24 <Your_mom_arma> hi
00:24 <DrJoeTron> halo is a shitty game
00:24 <Fonkay> hey moms
00:24 <spidey> joe is a shitty girl :p
00:24 <DrJoeTron> i am
00:24 <Fonkay> that's cause he's not..
00:24 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: ping!
00:24 <Your_mom_arma> pong
00:24 <Fonkay> and he sucks at playing pretend
00:25 <Lucifer_arma> are you Luke-Jr (hi there!) ?
00:25 <spidey> rofl
00:25 <Your_mom_arma> i might be, i dont remember
00:25 <Fonkay> just like spidey sucks at being civilized
00:27 <Fonkay> wow, conversation killer
00:27 <Your_mom_arma> is everyone still playing freeciv?
00:28 <DrJoeTron> weirdos
00:28 <Fonkay> *anyone
00:28 <DrJoeTron> i need a new game
00:28 <Fonkay> me too
00:28 <DrJoeTron> i need a wii
00:28 <Fonkay> i need a life
00:29 <DrJoeTron> yeah you do
00:29 <Fonkay> I can't wait for xmas break.. god how i hate this place
00:29 <DrJoeTron> i downloaded this horribl horrible mmorpg
00:29 <Fonkay> what's a mmorpg?
00:29 <DrJoeTron> its nothing but angsty 14 year olds
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> it's a bunch of really small kids with really small egos calling you j00 and n00b
00:30 <DrJoeTron> massive multiplayer online role playing game
00:30 <DrJoeTron> yeah it is
00:30 <DrJoeTron> i love it
00:30 <DrJoeTron> and filled with the the super wanna be goth kids 
00:30 <DrJoeTron> "d00d im so goth i shit bats"
00:30 <Fonkay> kinda like tron, but worse?
00:31 <DrJoeTron> MUCH worse
00:31 <Fonkay> fun
00:31 <DrJoeTron> the art work is terrible
00:32 <Fonkay> kids so goth they're emo? and so emo they're annoying?
00:32 <DrJoeTron> yes
00:32 <DrJoeTron> its hilarious
00:32 <DrJoeTron> and they hit on each other 
00:32 <DrJoeTron> i cant help but smile and watch
00:33 <Your_mom_arma> creepy
00:34 <DrJoeTron> hell yeah
00:34 <DrJoeTron> i found this game when i was like 15
00:34 <DrJoeTron> so i have all of this free shit
00:34 <DrJoeTron> i need to just burn this game out of my memory
00:34 <DrJoeTron> it makes runescape look hardcore
00:35 <Your_mom_arma> we could all go play multiplayer asteroids to kill some time
00:35 <Fonkay> ?
00:36 <DrJoeTron> i'd like that
00:36 <Fonkay> I'm really hating these early winter nights, they're so long
00:36 <Fonkay> feels like 11
00:36 <Your_mom_arma> looks like the servers down though
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> if you guys are so bored, go dwh for awhile :)
00:37 <DrJoeTron> best describes the only thing you can do 
00:37 <Fonkay> haha, that's what I'm doing right now
00:37 <DrJoeTron> this is my favorite emot icon ever
00:38 <Fonkay> eating popcorn, drinking some coke and french kiss and chatting
00:38 <DrJoeTron> wekk
00:38 <DrJoeTron> well*
00:38 <Fonkay> told you i needed a life
00:39 <DrJoeTron> one of them
00:39 <Your_mom_arma> i pretty much gave up on the arma comunity, dwh is like spitting in throwup. yeah, theres spit there but who cares
00:40 <Your_mom_arma> that was the only fitting anology i could come up with
00:41 <DrJoeTron> i'm trying to come up with one
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00:41 <Lucifer_arma> haha, the bad guy shot a fireball at the good guy, and teh good guy deflected it into a pile of crates
00:42 <Fonkay> ...
00:43 <DrJoeTron> i like how the sa boards made it on joystiq
00:43 <DrJoeTron> for the busted wiimote deally
00:43 <DrJoeTron> flying into the tv
00:44 <Fonkay> i think i missed something
00:44 <DrJoeTron> so wait
00:45 <Your_mom_arma> wait for?
00:45 <ghableska> heh, I saw thsoe
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> this is the worst fucking show ever made
00:45 <Your_mom_arma> ?
00:45 <ghableska> what's it called?
00:45 <DrJoeTron> when can we bust out the avatars?
00:45 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6373 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/doc/ (. installation.txt): Converted installation doc to reStructuredText.
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> mighty ducks?
00:46 <DrJoeTron> the knuckle puck?
00:46 <Fonkay> the movie?
00:46 <Fonkay> or the cartoon?
00:46 <Your_mom_arma> bash brothers?
00:47 <Fonkay> we should bust them out now, cause i like mine
00:47 -!- JJBean [n=irc4u@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
00:49 <Fonkay> ?
00:49 <DrJoeTron> i know
00:49 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma ever hear of multivaders?
00:50 <Your_mom_arma> no, but google just educated me
00:51 <Your_mom_arma> did invader link you to it?
00:51 <DrJoeTron> i linked me to it
00:52 <Your_mom_arma> so you can play as either team?
00:52 <DrJoeTron> yeah
00:52 <DrJoeTron> usa or ussr
00:52 <DrJoeTron> it was kind of dead when i started playing
00:52 <DrJoeTron> but that was years ago
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00:55 -!- wejp [n=j@i577BAF8A.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
00:56  * Your_mom_arma joins the only server
01:01  * Fonkay busts out av
01:07 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["leaving"]
01:09 <Your_mom_arma> that was fun for 5 minutes
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> make that 10
01:10 <DrJoeTron> haha
01:11 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 59.0°F (5:54 PM CST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa. 
01:11 <DrJoeTron> www.mpog.net help me fine something
01:12 <DrJoeTron> silkroad stay away from
01:12 <DrJoeTron> and space cowboy
01:12 <DrJoeTron> both are just grinding games
01:13 <DrJoeTron> fuck they changed the layout
01:13 <DrJoeTron> brb
01:17 <DrJoeTron> ko
01:18 <DrJoeTron> i almost wanna play silkroad again
01:22 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
01:22 <spidey> defcon
01:22 <spidey> ?
01:22 <DrJoeTron> nah looking up free gmaes
01:22 <spidey> lol
01:25 <spidey> nice
01:25 <spidey> more dns problems
01:27 <DrJoeTron> hmm
01:27 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma 
01:27 <DrJoeTron> we may have a game
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> ?
01:29 <DrJoeTron> http://www.freespacezone.com/
01:29 <DrJoeTron> mac linux and windows 
01:29 <DrJoeTron> multiplayer if patched
01:30 <Fonkay> stupid forums
01:30 <Fonkay> stupid joe
01:30 <DrJoeTron> stupid me :/
01:31 <Fonkay> av is too big
01:31 <Fonkay> can't use it
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> av?
01:32 <Vanhayes> audio visual?
01:34 <DrJoeTron> too bad theres a billion thigns to download for it
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> yeah, i was about to say something
01:36 <DrJoeTron> we could play maple story :p
01:36 <Vanhayes> ever try allegiance?
01:37 <ghableska> who is wrtlpwnd?
01:37 <Vanhayes> heh, saw that too
01:37 <ghableska> :P
01:38 -!- Arma50 [n=Arma50@pool-71-97-145-61.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
01:38 -!- Arma50 is now known as ct-Kyle
01:38 <Vanhayes> I like how he is starting the competition before he even knows if he has the server
01:38 <ghableska> heh
01:38 <ghableska> I just wish he would make his sig smaller
01:38 <Fonkay> fine
01:38 -!- Fonkay [i=Fonkay@blk-222-100-111.eastlink.ca] has quit []
01:39 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
01:39 <Vanhayes> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=10971&highlight=&sid=33557b2e6f044a28f0165a63bb49a990
01:39 <Vanhayes> canada
01:40 <Vanhayes> hmm he might have actually mentioned you in there Your_mom_arma 
01:40 <ghableska> haha
01:40 <ghableska> except as "you're mom"
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:40 <ghableska> you are mom- yes you are
01:41 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma http://www.battlefront.com/products/dropteam/news.html
01:41 <DrJoeTron> scratch it, its a demo
01:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, I have a weird feeling that canada is really Hyphy leopard
01:44 <ghableska> lol
01:45 -!- Durka [n=46215ae5@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
01:46 <ghableska> #google Hyphy Leopard
01:46 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.15 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Viewing profile: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1475&sid=ef5243bacec0edf9ddea2d23f8d4d135>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Has my attitude improved?: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=96991>; NIGHTLIFE / After dark / From hyphy to noise rock, comedy clubs to ...: <http://sfgate.com/cgi- (3 more messages)
01:46 <ct-Kyle> oi Durka
01:46 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-71-245-202-184.delv.east.verizon.net] has quit ["cya."]
01:46 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma i've got one
01:46 <DrJoeTron> bastard
01:47 <Vanhayes> ha
01:47 <Vanhayes> #more ghableska 
01:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/16/NSG54MCOT81.DTL>; Apple strengthens Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard with new build | The News ...: <http://www.nowpublic.com/tag/Apple%20strengthens%20Mac%20OS%20X%2010.5%20Leopard%20with%20new%20build>; Archive Search -Page: 1 | Keywords: From Isolation to Connection: (2 more messages)
01:47 <Vanhayes> #more ghableska 
01:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/16/NSG54MCOT81.DTL>; Apple strengthens Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard with new build | The News ...: <http://www.nowpublic.com/tag/Apple%20strengthens%20Mac%20OS%20X%2010.5%20Leopard%20with%20new%20build>; Archive Search -Page: 1 | Keywords: From Isolation to Connection: (2 more messages)
01:47 <Vanhayes> #more ghableska 
01:47 <armabot> Vanhayes: bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/16/NSG54MCOT81.DTL>; Apple strengthens Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard with new build | The News ...: <http://www.nowpublic.com/tag/Apple%20strengthens%20Mac%20OS%20X%2010.5%20Leopard%20with%20new%20build>; Archive Search -Page: 1 | Keywords: From Isolation to Connection: (2 more messages)
01:47 <Vanhayes> er
01:47 <ghableska> #google "Hyphy Leopard"
01:47 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.09 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Viewing profile: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1475&sid=ef5243bacec0edf9ddea2d23f8d4d135>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Has my attitude improved?: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=96991>; NIGHTLIFE / After dark / From hyphy to noise rock, comedy clubs to ...: <http://sfgate.com/cgi- (3 more messages)
01:47 <ghableska> hmm
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01:58 <ct-Kyle> Durka are you here?
02:00 <Vanhayes> #nigt
02:00 <Vanhayes> #night
02:00 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
02:00 <ghableska> cya
02:00 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034159122.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""Quit/Exited/Left/Went Away/Hit the Little X button""]
02:02 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
02:02 <spidey> http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_1_235_23189.html
02:03 <DrJoeTron> i told you about that
02:04 <spidey> ?
02:04 <spidey> http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_1_235_23154.html
02:04 -!- ct-Kyle [n=Arma50@pool-71-97-145-61.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
02:05 <DrJoeTron> about fear combat
02:05 <spidey> oh
02:05 <spidey> here's another one
02:05 <spidey> http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_1_235_22216.html
02:05 <spidey> you just didn't look hard enough :p
02:06 <Durka> im here
02:06 <Durka> #night
02:06 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, interesting
02:06 <armabot> Good night Durka!
02:06 <Durka> #hello
02:06 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: I use technology in order to hate it more properly. || -- Nam June Paik
02:06 <spidey> jor
02:06 <spidey> joe
02:06  * Lucifer_arma is running a bunch of ais on the world map to see if they can bootstrap us into modern techs so we can just fight instead of building civs
02:06 <spidey> i think i found one...
02:06 <Durka> #g 1 yen to USD
02:06 <armabot> Durka: 1 Japanese yen = 0.00861697544 U.S. dollars
02:06 <Durka> ouch
02:06 <spidey> JOE
02:07 <spidey> http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_1_235_23192.html
02:07 <spidey> ;x
02:07 <Durka> #g 1 USD in yen
02:07 <armabot> Durka: 1 U.S. dollar = 116.05 Japanese yen
02:07 <Durka> wow
02:07 <Durka> wait
02:07 <Durka> thats wrong
02:07 <Durka> isnt in in the 1000s
02:09 <DrJoeTron> hmm
02:09 <DrJoeTron> i'll think about it
02:11 <spidey> 1111111111111111122222222222222222222333333333333333334444444444444444
02:11 <ghableska> ...?
02:11 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Luke-Jr said he was gonna pwn joo
02:11 <Lucifer_arma> heh
02:12 <spidey> can you believe
02:12 <spidey> i have 1k+ gold income each turn!!!!!
02:12 <spidey> like
02:12 <spidey> 100 turns, i'd be the richest guy ever in freeciv
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, this world map is in 740 AD and no one has railroads yet
02:12 <spidey> :D
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> it's 14 ais :)
02:12 <spidey> ?
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> join my server and look :)
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com port 5555
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> just don't take a player!
02:13 <spidey> ok i will
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> 30 second timeout, I set the brits to an away ai
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> started it about an hour ago or so
02:13 <spidey> ghey
02:14 <spidey>  observe: Sorry, one can't observe globally in this game
02:15 <spidey> just what i need
02:15 <spidey> another 3 gigs of games
02:15 <spidey> >.>
02:15 <spidey> i wish i hadn't went to this site
02:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, it's your fault
02:15 <DrJoeTron> ?
02:16 <spidey> alien area 2007 looks cool
02:17 <DrJoeTron> link me to this site
02:17 <spidey> http://www.freewarefiles.com/results.php?categoryid=1&subcategoryid=235&action=sort&sort=downloads
02:17 <spidey> i searched for "first person shooters"
02:18 <DrJoeTron> brb
02:22 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i found a game that "looks cool" but it seems there master server is down =/
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02:37 <DrJoeTron> link?
02:38 <DrJoeTron> spidey look up one involving some sci fi in it
02:38 <spidey> found one
02:38 <spidey> BUT
02:38 <spidey> i know i can't play it
02:38 <spidey> from the looks, it requires a shitload more gfx than i got
02:38 <spidey> heh
02:38 <DrJoeTron> link me
02:38 <spidey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_first-person_shooters#Penumbra
02:39 <spidey> hey if we get wolfenstein enemy terrotories we can pwn luci :p
02:40 <DrJoeTron> ehhh
02:40 <DrJoeTron> its an fps though
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02:48 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ?
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03:04 <DrJoeTron> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games
03:04 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HoverRace <-- I remember that!
03:04 <DrJoeTron> i want something involving space ships and pew pew pew
03:05 <DrJoeTron> or something that isn't an fps
03:05 <spidey> crack attack
03:05 <spidey> ahah
03:05 <DrJoeTron> haha i saw that
03:05 <spidey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegiance_%28computer_game%29
03:05 <spidey> that one?
03:06 <DrJoeTron> hmm
03:06 <DrJoeTron> it looks interesting
03:07 <spidey> i'ma download it
03:07 <ghableska> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/windows/mcd_e.html
03:07 <ghableska> hmm
03:07 <spidey> the hell is that
03:07 <spidey> o.O
03:08 <DrJoeTron> that guy makes some crazy shmups
03:08 <spidey> http://www.freeallegiance.org/
03:09 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
03:09 <DrJoeTron> download it and let me know how it is :p
03:10 <spidey> ...
03:10 <spidey> find out for yourself :p
03:10 <DrJoeTron> you found it :p
03:10 <spidey> you always make me download these stupid things
03:10 <spidey> >.>
03:10 <spidey> xD
03:10 <DrJoeTron> yeah but this isnt prone for spyware
03:10 <DrJoeTron> bbl
03:13 <spidey> We have 15,780 registered members
03:13 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i think it's a rather big community
03:13 <spidey> xD
03:14 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/chico_clover_nano-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
03:18 <spidey> hmm
03:19 <spidey> Luke-Jr, stfu
03:25 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/other/maze-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
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03:31 <spidey> GodTodd, stfu
03:31 <GodTodd> bite my thick white dick
03:31 <GodTodd> :)
03:32 <spidey> stop living in that fantecy land =p
03:33 <GodTodd> fantasy? :P
03:33 <spidey> i'm from land of the gibberish, proper spelling mean no   thing to meh
03:34 <GodTodd> heh
03:34 <spidey> stupid spell check
03:34 <spidey> i can't type te h =(
03:34 <spidey> the
03:34 <spidey> the
03:34 <spidey> !
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> shutupshutupshutUP!
03:35 <spidey> NO!
03:36 <GodTodd> spidey: disable the auto fix thingy :P
03:36 <GodTodd> teh
03:36 <GodTodd> teh
03:36 <GodTodd> teh
03:36 <spidey> i would
03:36 <spidey> but i dunno where it is xD
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> I need to restart that game and lower citymindist
03:37 <spidey> DrJoeTron, you'll have to install .net framework 1.1
03:37 <GodTodd> on mine it's settings -> advanced -> Auto Replace
03:38 <spidey> teh
03:38 <spidey> pwn
03:38 <GodTodd> i had to get rid of it so i could talk 1337
03:39 <spidey> j00 }{4\/3 70 74||< 1337 |}|_||}3
03:41 <ghableska> ...
03:43 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:43 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 64.6°F (8:43 PM CST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa. 
03:43 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 57.2°F (7:54 PM CST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa. 
03:46 <GodTodd> #weather 55555
03:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Glencoe, Minnesota is 41.0°F (8:35 PM CST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa. 
03:49 <GodTodd> #weather 90210
03:49 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Santa Monica, California is 59.0°F (5:51 PM PST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa. 
03:49 <spidey> #weather 66666
03:49 <armabot> spidey: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "66666".
03:49 <spidey> #weather 666
03:49 <armabot> spidey: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "666".
03:49 <ghableska> ...?
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's really hot there
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
03:50 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 66.7°F (8:49 PM CST on November 26, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa. 
03:50 <ghableska> really hot?
03:50 <ghableska> :P
03:50 <GodTodd> #weather hell
03:51 <Lucifer_arma> there = zip code 66666
03:51 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Hellisøy, Norway is 43.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Wind: SE at 5 mph (8 km/h).
03:51 <ghableska> I know ;)
03:51 <ghableska> you'd know that
04:15 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/other/room_service-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
04:27 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/other/room_service-0.0..aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
04:29 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/other/room_service-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
04:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/other/room_service-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
04:37 <ghableska> #night
04:37 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:38 <DrJoeTron> it has to use .netframework 1.1?
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Luke-Jr (hi there!)
04:55 <spidey> Luke-Jr, Lucifer_arma (PRICK)
04:55 <spidey> DrJoeTron, yea
04:55 <spidey> i broke mine already heh
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> Luke-Jr: spidey (cocksucker)
04:55 <spidey> alien arena 2007, is OK, but it kinda sucks
04:55 <spidey> lol
04:55 <DrJoeTron> hehh
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> the game was at about 900AD when we broke it
04:56 <spidey> ya
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to make another modification to the world map :)
04:56 <spidey> make it tons bigger?
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to remove the civs from the scenario completely so we won't be able to pick locations anymore
04:56 <spidey> gay
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> can't change its size until I know more about the format of the map :/
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> then I need a fancy scaling algorithm or else it gets pixellated badly
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we should try playing the ice age map instead :)
04:58 <spidey> NO
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> ?  no likee?
04:58 <spidey> i'll be terraforming till 5000AD
04:58 <spidey> i'll have 200 engineers, and still terrforming till 5000AD
04:59 <spidey> actually
04:59 <spidey> yes lets play
04:59 <spidey> i'll have the best civ sense i'll be the only one terraforming probably :DS
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm looking at how the world map ai game is going (after restarting it to let them smallpox) and I'm not terribly happy about it
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> I was hoping it would result in a game that was already setup and we could just go in and war each other
05:00 <spidey> lol
05:00 <spidey> WHY ME!
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> of course, luke never wants to restore a savegame, so we may as well forget about last night's game
05:01 <spidey> oh hell no
05:01 <spidey> he'll get bish slapped xD
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, anybody up for a game tonight?
05:02 <spidey> <<<
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Luke-Jr (hi there!) wrtlprnft (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) 
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> armabot: you want to play?
05:03 <spidey> DrJoeTron, doesn't play
05:03 <spidey> GodTodd, isn't allowed to
05:03 <spidey> and Luke-Jr can so ic an kill him
05:03 <spidey> :D
05:06 <spidey> gibberish for Luke-Jr suxxz0rs
05:06 <spidey> xD
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want to start right now and not wait for people.  So if you want to start, I started the server already.  We can put a ton of ais and then start, and if anybody wants to play,
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> they can connect to www.davefancella.com port 5555 to play :)
05:08 <spidey> what's your ip?
05:08 <spidey> i've been getting dns errors all day, AGAIN
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
05:09 <Lucifer_arma>
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05:43 <[NP]Tangent> well
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> I have Arma 0.5 on this box
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> er
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> 0.2.5
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> I think I'll upgrade now
05:46 <spidey> o.O
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to join this freeciv game?  :)
06:09 <[NP]Tangent> freeciv!
06:09 <[NP]Tangent> hah
06:09 <[NP]Tangent> I suck at that
06:09 <[NP]Tangent> but if you want, I could join
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> wait
06:10 <[NP]Tangent> no, I'm hitting the hay soon
06:13 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd isn't allowed to?
06:21 <spidey> #joke
06:21 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where they are able to understand jokes.
07:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #joke
07:30 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
07:30 <[Xpert]DarkStar> -.-
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08:23  * spidey slaps darkstar
08:23 <wrtlprnft> Wrtlpwnd o_O
08:23 <spidey> haha
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09:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6374 /private/z-man/clio/ifunctioninfo.cpp: Fixed calls of fuctions via super() and resend. performOn needed to be overridden as well.
09:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6375 /private/z-man/clio/ (macros.hpp test.cpp): First experiments with templates.
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10:15 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6377 /private/z-man/clio/iobjectwrapperaware.hpp: Removed extra semicolon.
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11:37 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6378 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
11:37 <armabot> armagetronad: Simplified macros.
11:37 <armabot> armagetronad: Overriding protected virtual functions and wrapping protected methods is now allowed.
11:37 <armabot> armagetronad: Support for registering virtuals as protected so they can only be invoked from a subclass.
12:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6379 /private/z-man/clio/ (functioninfo_single.hpp macros.hpp test.cpp): Overriding of private virtual functions added.
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13:13 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love my flag :)
13:13 <spidey> lol
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you need to hurry up and get your own nation working
13:13 <spidey> i got 5 cities in disorder now =/
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> ?  how'd you do that?
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> ah, pulled your units out to fight the russians, did you?
13:13 <spidey> i needed the riflemen to finish off a city
13:13 <spidey> i'd rather use 5 riflemen and replace them
13:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I need to remember to distribute my cannons throughout my home cities before I get uppity about advancing
13:14 <spidey> instead of having to fight 3 elite riflemen fully healed
13:14 <spidey> XD
13:14 <spidey> city walls to =/
13:14 <Lucifer_arma> we need mortars :)
13:14 <Lucifer_arma> remind me to work on my tech tree sometime so we can have mortars
13:14 <spidey> we need howitzers =p
13:14 <Lucifer_arma> I figure mortars will negate city walls, and you'll get them a lot earlier than howitzers
13:15 <spidey> which once i fix my 5 cities i'll be at about 440 pts/turn
13:15 <spidey> heh
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> they won't be very strong, that'll be their special ability.  Cheap, weak, but negates city walls
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I ever get my economy straightened out, I can build more libraries and universities, which will boost my science quite a bit
13:15 <spidey> i only have 10 libraries
13:15 <spidey> no univeristies =p
13:15 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the only way that'll happen is if I start taking more cities
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> or build more cities, one of the two
13:16  * Lucifer_arma hopes to do a combination of the two
13:16 <spidey> lol
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> I've got some cities sitting around doing nothing, I can put them on settlers and send a transport over there
13:16 <spidey> i got over 53 cities spitting out 5 riflemen and 5+ cannons each turn
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> pull some of the war production for starting defensive units and stick that on a transport
13:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm not putting out *that* much, but my standing army is good-sized for the area it's in
13:17 <spidey> it's gonna suck when i have to rebuild barracks =/
13:17 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I've still got a ton of muskets :/
13:18 <spidey> lol
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> I built the UN mostly by disbanding muskets, heh
13:18 <spidey> haha
13:19 <spidey> i got the wonders i want
13:19 <spidey> a.smiths trading stock....that observory, isaac newtons college, and king richards
13:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, the library kept me pretty teched up, and I was able to stay ahead, so it mostly just filled in stuff behind me that I usually don't get until I have to
13:19 <spidey> if it wasn't for a.smiths trading stock i'd be in debt to
13:19 <spidey> =p
13:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably why I'm in such bad shape.  :(
13:20 <spidey> heh
13:20 <Lucifer_arma> But I'll build some stock markets now that I can take a breather.  I've got my navy mostly built, at least until it's time to build carriers
13:20 <spidey> there's no way i could support 53 barracks, a few factories and other stuff and keep a 140+ profit
13:20 <Lucifer_arma> I should put some subs out now, though, so I'll have them there when it's time for missiles
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I could if I were actually advancing, but the field in front of me is all fucked up
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> there's 4 civs all fighting over the same little space
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'd just be a fifth in there
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> every now and then, one of them masses a charge on my cities
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> now I have a lot of elite cannons in those cities
13:21 <spidey> when i started on the russians they where all railroaded
13:21 <spidey> and nice cities
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, you've reached the part that had newer cities and haven't been developed yet
13:22 <spidey> i still don't understand
13:22 <spidey> how the fuck did he take over 20 of my cities in one turn
13:22 <spidey> then when i went back through
13:22 <spidey> there wasn't a unit to be found of his
13:22 <Lucifer_arma> they were railroaded?
13:23 <spidey> yes, but he would have had to take my 2 fort cities in order to use them
13:23 <Lucifer_arma> maybe there's a special talent of the hard AI to not use a movement point when taking a city
13:23 <Lucifer_arma> he could've put spies or diplomats to deal with that
13:23 <spidey> well that's gay :p
13:23 <spidey> eh?
13:23 <spidey> he didn't touch those cities though
13:23 <spidey> that's the point
13:24 <spidey> and he still didn't have a single unit on my land
13:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm liking the hard ais, myself.  They build decent cities.  I think the problem we've had with the easy and normal ais is that they don't develop their cities, they just war endlessly
13:24 <spidey> haha
13:24 <spidey> i think we should goto experimental :)
13:24 <Lucifer_arma> he probably swept through with a few units and lost them attacking a city, so they took a bunch of cities and then attacked and lost
13:24 <spidey> i know i could handle it
13:24 <spidey> but luke would whine
13:24 <spidey> lol
13:24 <Lucifer_arma> leaving him in possession of a bunch of cities, but with no military force
13:25 <Lucifer_arma> man, luke wusses out too much :/
13:25 <spidey> ya
13:26 <Lucifer_arma> I don't mind having lots of settlers, workers, and gold to start.  It kick starts the civilization, gets you past the really annoying part
13:26 <Lucifer_arma> the part that's especially annoying when people are taking slow turns
13:27 <spidey> lol
13:27 <Lucifer_arma> but research speed needs to be slowed down.  It really gets boring when you're several centuries advanced over the ais
13:27 <spidey> i only take slow turns when i have to =p
13:27 <Lucifer_arma> then the war is very tedious
13:27 <spidey> well
13:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd rather everyone take the first couple of turns slowly because they started with so many pieces than have one or two people taking slow turns because they're exploring by hand
13:27 <spidey> i'd be happy to stop the tech line at muskets and cannons
13:27 <Lucifer_arma> and doing it for the first 20 turns
13:28 <Lucifer_arma> and just play the whole game there?
13:28 <spidey> yea
13:28 <spidey> that way noone has a advantage :)
13:28 <spidey> seeing as the AI seems to stop at them
13:28 <Lucifer_arma> and maps.  I like the big maps because you really get to use every tech level you're at.  Like we're fighting a nice war with cannons and muskets (now riflemen)
13:28 <Lucifer_arma> no, the ais will develop howitzers.  These ones will keep up.  :)
13:28 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I've gotta go
13:29 <spidey> me to
13:29 <spidey> tired xD
13:29 <spidey> cya
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6380 /private/z-man/clio/macros.hpp: allow clio to be used without “using namespace clio;”
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14:05 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6381 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Rotator is now wrapped, though you can't load any settings script-side because clio doesn't handle class methods yet.
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14:23 <DrJoeTron> spidey ping
14:33 <spidey> ?
14:33 <spidey> DrJoeTron, pong
14:33 <spidey> defcon has become boring
14:33 <spidey> it's starting to repeat iself
14:34 <spidey> i start a server, i hear "gogogogogoogogogogo" for about 10 minutes
14:34 <spidey> we start up, 5 minutes till defcon 1
14:34 <DrJoeTron> hah
14:34 <spidey> i launch 12 subs on russia, then 20 bombers on europe, then 12 carrier worth of bombers to do cleanup
14:34 <spidey> then nuke the fuck outta usa with silos
14:35 <spidey> and i'm asia btw
14:35 <spidey> indian ocean subs = death to russia
14:35 <spidey> :)
14:35 <spidey> what'd you want?
14:36 <DrJoeTron> ever play cave story?
14:36 <spidey> the only way to get any fun is to rival the guy next to you, eg. europe vs russia, africa vs asia and na vs sa
14:36 <spidey> but that's only fun for like 20 minutes
14:36 <spidey> no i haven't
14:36 <DrJoeTron> lets change that
14:37 <spidey> =/
14:37 <spidey> link?
14:37 <DrJoeTron> http://agtp.romhack.net/doukutsu.html
14:37 <DrJoeTron> side scrolling shooter
14:37 <DrJoeTron> its like castlevania
14:37 <DrJoeTron> or metroid
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14:38 <spidey> himme link again
14:40 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
14:40 <spidey> #last --from DrJoeTron --with www.
14:40 <armabot> spidey: [01:44:05] <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma http://www.battlefront.com/products/dropteam/news.html
14:41 <spidey> #last --from DrJoeTron --with http:// --nolimit
14:41 <armabot> spidey: [14:40:26] <DrJoeTron> http://agtp.romhack.net/doukutsu.html, [03:07:19] <DrJoeTron> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games, [01:44:05] <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma http://www.battlefront.com/products/dropteam/news.html, [01:32:20] <DrJoeTron> http://www.freespacezone.com/, [00:40:07] <DrJoeTron> best describes the only thing you can do, and [23:06:02] (1 more message)
14:41 <spidey> Sorry, you're looking for something that isn't there, apparently.
14:41 <spidey> If you got here from a link on the page, let me know on our board.
14:41 <spidey> Otherwise, stop fiddling, y'hear!?
14:45 <DrJoeTron> bwuh?
14:46 <DrJoeTron> http://agtp.romhack.net/doukutsu.html
15:16 <spidey> is it some stupid rom?
15:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6382 /private/z-man/clio/test.cpp: removed "using namespace clio" so nemo doesn't always have to correct my macros :)
15:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6383 /private/z-man/clio/ifunctioninfo.cpp: Added code that should in theory determine the caller of the method, so we can see whether it is all right to call protected functions.
15:22 <DrJoeTron> i cant find my photoshop disc :O
15:23 <spidey> lol
15:24 <spidey> i'm going to sleep
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16:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6384 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Steps towards regular functions and static member functions.
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17:46 <luke-jr_work> how the heck does my laptop battery discharge 70% while it is power off? :(
17:56 <deja_vu> through ingenuity?
17:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:58 <deja_vu> not... again...
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20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6385 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files): Added support for static member functions and masking non-class functions as static member functions.
20:30 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6386 /private/z-man/clio/test.cpp: Fixed unknownIn/unknownOut test.
20:40 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6387 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Added readable error for doing anything with a prototype object (instead of an assertion failure)
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21:30 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6388 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): clio wrapped tDirectories
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21:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6389 /private/z-man/clio/function.hpp: compatibility with GCC 3.3. It didn't like a base function prototype. Doesn't matter, it does accept the real implementations later.
21:56 <luke-jr_work> hi z-man 
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22:27 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: i still have the feeling z-man isn't reading this #
22:27 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: you there?
22:28 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: if i want a file object I use File.new(), right?
22:28 <[dlh]> File.open(…)
22:28 <wrtlprnft> oh
22:28 <wrtlprnft> still the same
22:28 <wrtlprnft> http://www.imagemagick.org/RMagick/doc/image3.html#write
22:28 <wrtlprnft> this says the function accepts a file object
22:28 <wrtlprnft> but i get
22:29 <wrtlprnft> ./armagetronad3/tools/map-preview/trunk/bin/../lib/map_preview/renderer.rb:66:in `initialize': can't convert IO into String (TypeError)
22:30 <[dlh]> Did you open it for writing? File.open(…, "wb") ← b is for binary mode
22:30 <wrtlprnft> no, the b doesn't change it either
22:30 <wrtlprnft>       fd = File.open($>, 'wb')
22:30 <wrtlprnft>       @rvg.draw.write(fd)
22:31 <wrtlprnft> what I'm trying to do is extend luke-jr_work's -o option to allow writing to stdout using - as a file name
22:31 <[dlh]> wait, what is $>?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> found that somewhere
22:31  * [dlh] hates the Perl variables
22:31 <wrtlprnft> http://www.zenspider.com/Languages/Ruby/QuickRef.html
22:32 <luke-jr_work> I have a -o option?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah…
22:32 <luke-jr_work> for what?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> the resource browser?
22:32 <luke-jr_work> o.O?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: well, give me a better way…
22:32 <luke-jr_work> o
22:33 <wrtlprnft> r5870 | luke-jr | 2006-07-31 23:23:24 +0200 (Mon, 31 Jul 2006) | 2 lines
22:33 <wrtlprnft> Optional output file argument
22:34 <[dlh]> You are modifying MapPreview::Render#write, correct?
22:35 <[dlh]> oh wait, just the bin/map-preview script
22:36 <wrtlprnft> currently i'm in the renderer, but it doesn't really matter
22:36 <[dlh]> fd = STDOUT if file == "-"  ??
22:36 <wrtlprnft> something like that, yeah
22:37 <[dlh]> File.open only takes a string, you were passing it STDOUT.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> hmm, but it didn't throw an error there…
22:39 <wrtlprnft> aah, now it's doing something
22:39 <wrtlprnft> and screwing up my terminal :P
22:39 <[dlh]> why do you want to dump to stdout anyway?
22:40 <luke-jr_work> ;p
22:40 <wrtlprnft> so i can dump it directly into an image viewer
22:40 <wrtlprnft> for a handly little alias/shell function
22:40 <luke-jr_work> heh
22:44 <wrtlprnft> now i just need a way to redirect all print statements to stderr
22:44 <luke-jr_work> >&2
22:44 <luke-jr_work> :)
22:45 <[dlh]> $stdout = $stderr or something
22:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: well, the image itself *should* go to stdout, of course :P
22:47 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, 3>&2 >&2
22:47 <luke-jr_work> :p
22:47 <wrtlprnft> won't work
22:48 <luke-jr_work> will if you put the img on fd 3
22:48 <wrtlprnft> well, then i could as well put it to stderr
22:48 <[dlh]> heh
22:49 <wrtlprnft> well, then i could as well put it to stderr
22:49 <wrtlprnft> oops
22:51 <wrtlprnft> hmm, now i managed to print the image to stderr and the message to stdout x_X
22:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/chico_nano-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:51 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/ct_octa-nan-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:52 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/dia_nano_chico-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:52 <wrtlprnft> not again
22:52 <wrtlprnft> now he's gonna bother me again to put them all to CTWF
22:52 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_castle-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:53  * luke-jr_work considers removing his email from the CIA email
22:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_hex_killer-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:53  * wrtlprnft wonders what the point of this is
22:53 <wrtlprnft> the maps *are* already on the repository
22:53 <wrtlprnft> all except the clover one
22:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_joe_mangle-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:54 <wrtlprnft> and the ones that are there even have the settings removed!
22:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_knightmare-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_slingers-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:54 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_sumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:54 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft, if they were, the submit would fail...
22:55 <wrtlprnft> no, under ed/wildfort
22:55 <luke-jr_work> ........
22:55 <luke-jr_work> who made them?
22:55 <wrtlprnft> dunno
22:55 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/octagoneloopy_nano-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
22:55 <luke-jr_work> sigh
22:55 <luke-jr_work> can't exactly symlink them either
22:55 <luke-jr_work> as the header is going to be diff
22:55 <wrtlprnft> anyways, they're all pd
22:56 <luke-jr_work> pd?
22:56 <wrtlprnft> there you go with how stupid that resource header is
22:56 <wrtlprnft> public domain?
22:56 <luke-jr_work> o
22:56 <wrtlprnft>        License: Do with it what you want.-->      
22:56 <wrtlprnft> i interpret that as pd
22:57 <luke-jr_work> kyle says only a few are copies
22:57 <wrtlprnft> (note that “butchered by ed” means “completely reworked by ed as the map was unusuable”
22:58 <wrtlprnft> )
22:59 <wrtlprnft> argh, i give up on this stdout/stdin stuff
22:59 <wrtlprnft> i'll just use a temporary file.
22:59 <[dlh]> hmm, I try to look in to it.
23:00 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
23:01 <wrtlprnft> i tried $stdout = $stderr which didn't do anything, and STDOUT.reopen(STDERR) which put everything to stderr.
23:08 <[dlh]> why not just dump the stuff that is currently printing to stdout to stderr?
23:08 <luke-jr_work> heh
23:08 <wrtlprnft> well, i'd need to change that
23:08 <[dlh]> like, instead of print "blah", STDERR.print "blah"
23:08 <wrtlprnft> and in future every line that prints something would need to check or risk breaking it
23:09 <wrtlprnft> and if the image doesn't go to stdout the messages should go there I think…
23:16 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6390 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/tools/tDirectories_wrap.cpp: Use CLIO_METHOD instead of CLIO_METHOD_STATIC
23:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6391 /private/z-man/clio/dataconversion.hpp:
23:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Added conversion for bools.
23:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Added description texts to the places users will get compiler errors.
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6392 /private/z-man/clio/Makefile: Added generation of libclio.a
23:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6393 /private/z-man/clio/ (. test.cpp): Added test for functions with default argument.
23:30 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6394 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/configure.ac: Removed SWIG input files, they're not in this branch.
23:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6395 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/Makefile.am: Added tDirectories_wrap.cpp to the special main files, so we can test its operation with the eval chat.

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